Ep. 1229 - The Institution Of Marriage Is Under Attack From All Sides
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Summary
Marriage is under attack in our society, and these attacks are not just coming from the left. An increasing number of influencers on the right are discouraging young people from getting married, claiming that marriages almost always lead to failure and misery. But is that true? No, not at all. We ll discuss.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, marriage is under attack in our society.
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And these attacks are not just coming from the left.
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An increasing number of influencers on the right are discouraging young people from getting married,
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claiming that marriages almost always lead to failure and misery.
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But is that true? No, not at all. We'll discuss.
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Also, new presidential polling has the media in a panic.
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Are they about to dump Biden and trade him in for a younger model?
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And a new report reveals that American taxpayer money is not just going to the military in Ukraine,
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In our daily cancellation, a new sculpture in California looks suspiciously like a certain unspeakable body part.
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We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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I've spent a lot of time in my career defending the institution of marriage.
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And I defend it because it's the bedrock of civilization, so it deserves defending.
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And I defend it because it's under constant attack, so it needs defending.
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And one of the most troubling developments in recent years, which we've discussed on this show in the past,
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is that these attacks are increasingly waged not just from the left, but from certain noisy segments of the right as well.
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Some right-wing influencers with legions of young, mostly male fans have decided that men should abandon marriage and family life and go their own way.
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And these influencers, many of whom consider themselves a part of the so-called red pill movement,
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pretend to despise feminists and yet have essentially arrived at the same conclusion as feminists,
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The two sides hate marriage almost as much as they hate each other.
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Now, one of these influencers is a woman named Pearl Davis,
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who has garnered a relatively large following on YouTube and various social media platforms.
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She's in her mid-twenties, single and childless, and yet full of opinions about modern marriage and family life,
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a subject that she has no personal insight into whatsoever.
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She's spent the past few days on the internet complaining about, quote-unquote, trad cons like myself,
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who, she says, promote the nuclear family despite not understanding what it's really like.
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Yes, we men who actually have wives and children don't know what it's like to be married,
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but a woman who is not married and has no children does know what it's like.
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quote, the trad cons push marriage because they aren't old enough to know better.
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They don't know the reality of what they're pushing.
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This is accompanied by a picture of myself, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles.
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We aren't old enough to know better and don't know the reality of what we're pushing,
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yet a woman who is younger than us and single does know better and does understand this reality.
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In other posts, she goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men,
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would you ever sign a contract that fails 75% of the time
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where your business partner is paid to break the contract?
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Why would you encourage men to sign that contract until the terms are fixed?
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Now, you may be surprised to learn that marriages fail at a rate of 75%.
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The figure that people like this normally use is 50%.
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And the claim that 50% of marriages end in divorce is already spurious,
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and we'll have more on that in a moment, but 75%?
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so I scrolled down and I saw something that she reposted from an alleged lawyer who said this,
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It's not 50-50. That only accounts for divorces.
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Another 25% on the negative side for miserable men trapped in cheaper to keep her marriages
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unwilling to risk financial destruction and loss of their children.
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75% chance of a devastatingly bad outcome is just a bad plan.
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No sane person would enter into a commercial contract on such terms.
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Now, I did ask him where he got this 75% figure from, and he wouldn't say.
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Apparently, the magic statistic fairy came and whispered it in his ear.
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Now, for her part, Pearl later tweeted a picture of Pierce Brosnan with his wife of 20 years,
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and she questioned whether the marriage counts as successful since Brosnan's wife has put on some
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weight at the age of 60. So apparently, even if they're happy and have remained married for two
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decades, they still might fall into that 75% failure rate because they have not both remained in
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This debate on social media brought out the rest of the marriage skeptical crowd on the right.
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A bunch of these red pill influencers decided to hop on an emergency Zoom call and spend
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two hours talking about me and the rest of the Daily Wire crew and our reckless promotion of
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society's most fundamental institution. Now, there's one clip here that you should see.
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This is apparently a divorce lawyer who says that the failure rate for marriage is not 50%
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and it's not 75%. It is, in fact, even higher. Listen.
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I think marriage can be successful, of course. It's just not something that's as scalable as we
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as a society are trying to pretend it is. Marriage is, and I've said this a hundred times and I'll say
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a hundred more. Marriage is like the lottery. You are probably not going to win, okay? You're
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probably not going to win. Don't make that your 401k. You're probably not going to win. But if you win,
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what you win is so great that I don't blame you for buying a ticket and trying. I personally don't
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buy lottery tickets. But when somebody says, yeah, I played a lottery. Hey, man, somebody's got to win.
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And you know what? As long as you're not blowing money that you need for food or to put shoes on
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your kid's feet, you're not hurting anybody. Go out, give it a try. So I always tell people,
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listen, marriage, when it works, when you have somebody who's married 20 plus years and they're
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still crazy about each other, that is the exception, not the rule. But when you do it,
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it's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. So why not buy the ticket, take the ride, but have a prenup?
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Wear a seatbelt, guys. You can be a safe driver, but wear a seatbelt.
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So a happy marriage, he says, is like winning the lottery. And the thing about the lottery is that
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almost everybody loses. This is a perfect summation of how this entire club views marriage
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and the message that they're sending to young men in particular. Sure, it can be great, they concede,
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but only if you're insanely lucky. Everybody else is screwed. This is a rather bleak view of marriage,
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and thankfully, it's also nonsense. First of all, the claim that marriage isn't scalable
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is obviously ridiculous because marriage has served as the bedrock of human society
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since time immemorial. It has already happened at the scale of civilization for thousands of years.
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Now, the divorce lawyers come along and say that, you know, this thing that society has been doing
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forever, turns out it doesn't work. Unless you're the one in a million.
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It's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous claim. Now, what about the failure rate of marriages in our
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culture? We've heard 50%. We've heard 75%. We just heard that they fail at a rate similar to the
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rate that people lose the lottery, which would mean higher than 99%, a lot higher. Yet, these kinds of
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astronomical odds are not based in anything but the doom and gloom speculations of the people inventing
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them. There is no evidence that having a happy marriage is as unlikely as winning the lottery or
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that 75% of marriages end in misery. And what about the 50% number? Well, this is at least is a familiar
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statistic. It's something that you've probably heard before. 50% of marriages end in divorce.
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It's familiar, but it is bogus. And one way that you know that it's bogus is that people have been
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claiming that 50% of marriages end in divorce since I was a kid. I've been hearing that my whole life.
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And that would mean that divorce rates are static across time. But of course, that isn't the case.
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In fact, we know that divorce rates have gone down in recent years. So where does the 50% figure come
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from? Apparently, it's a holdover from the 1980s, which is when people first started citing that statistic.
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It's not true today. And it's actually not clear that it was true even in the 80s either.
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So what is the actual divorce rate? It's a little bit hard to determine.
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Probably our best guess is based on U.S. census data, which according to the most recent figures,
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says that about 35% of American adults who have been married have been divorced.
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So it's not exactly going to give us a precisely scientific figure of what the divorce rate is,
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but it's as close as we're going to get, 35%. And 35% is high. I mean, it's way too high.
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It's not 50%, though. And it's not 75%. And it's not 99%. And it's definitely not lottery odds.
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Still, isn't it terrifying to think that if you get married, your chance of failure is 35%
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and the chance of success is only 65% at the most? Even if we go with that number, isn't that still
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very, very scary? Isn't it high enough that it should dissuade anyone from attempting it?
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The answer to that question is no. And here's why. If the divorce rate is 35%,
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or even if it's 50%, it does not follow that your own particular marriage has a 35% or 50% chance of
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failure. Now, I'm not saying that you should be cocky or reckless or that you should see yourself
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as invincible. I am saying that you shouldn't, on the other extreme, see yourself as passive debris
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floating helplessly on the tide of statistical likelihoods. Because you are an individual.
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Your marriage is an individual thing. And its chances of failure are not set by society at large.
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So here's an example to illustrate what I mean. And this is really, really important
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to understand. Because as marriage rates fall, and those are falling,
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the thing that convinces so many people to not marry in the first place are numbers like this.
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And this misconception that, well, look at the divorce rate, and that is my own specific chance
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of getting divorced. And I'm here to tell you that's not how it works. So here's, I think this
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illustrates it. The obesity rate in the United States is over 40%. Does that mean that your own
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chances of becoming obese are 40%? No, it doesn't. Your chances might be 5%. They might be practically
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zero. Or they might be quite a bit higher than 40%. That's because obesity is the result of behavior
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and choices. If you do not engage in the behavior or make the choices that lead to obesity, you will
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not become obese. The fact that 40% of people around you are fat does not mean that you automatically
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have a 40% obesity risk. Now, let's take another example. Car accidents. Americans get into car
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accidents at a certain rate. I'm not sure what the rate is. It doesn't matter for our purposes.
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What does matter is that your own individual chance of getting into a car accident is not the same as
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every other driver on the road. The people who compile statistics will say things like,
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motorists have an X% chance of getting into a collision. But you are not just a generic motorist.
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You are an individual. Now, you can never bring your own chance of dying in a fiery car wreck down
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to zero. But if you're responsible, if you're a responsible driver, then obviously your chances
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of getting into an accident are much lower than the chances of someone who is not responsible.
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All of those stupid drivers who don't understand the basic rules of the road and like to tweet and
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eat while they drive and everything else, they're inflating the numbers for everyone.
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Now, they're also making the roads more dangerous for everyone. They are actually actively making
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your own chances of getting into a car accident higher because the roads are filled with stupid
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people. But your chances are not as high as their chances. You do not share their level of risk unless
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you're as dumb as they are. Because again, you are an individual, not a mere statistic.
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So, what about marriage? It's true that even if you do everything right, things can still fall apart
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if your spouse doesn't follow that program. Now, if you both do everything right or even most things
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right, then your chance of divorce is basically zero. But you can do everything on your end and maybe
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your spouse doesn't do the same and then it falls apart anyway and that happens and it's terrible,
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but it happens. It's also true that there are many, many things you can do in your marriage and
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before your marriage to make it much more secure than the average. Obvious things. Like, you can
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marry someone who shares your same fundamental values. Not everyone does that. In fact, a lot of
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people don't. A lot of people go into marriages knowing ahead of time that they're marrying someone
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who doesn't share their fundamental values. Their chances of divorce are going to be somewhere
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much higher than yours if you don't make that basic entry-level mistake that they have made.
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You can do other things. Like, you can state from the outset that you both, in principle,
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don't believe in divorce and won't consider it as a viable option for solving any marital difficulties
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you may experience down the line. You can have a strong and shared faith. You can establish from
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the beginning a habit of honest communication. You can make time for each other. You can continue
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to date, even or especially as your lives get busier and you start having kids and so on.
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You can make a strong effort to be patient with and grateful to each other. You can take care of your
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body and your appearance. You can do all these things and more. Now, I'm not saying that if you do all
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of this, it will bring your divorce chance down to zero. I'm not denying that there are plenty of
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people out there who did all this, at least on their own end, and yet still ended up divorced.
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That's not my point. My point is that the divorce rate doesn't take any of that into account.
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The people who take none of these basic steps are lumped in with the people who do all of it,
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and we're supposed to believe that both groups have an equal chance of marital failure. That's just not
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true. Now, I don't deny that there are real serious problems with marriage in our society. The so-called
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red pill people and others, they raise totally legitimate and important points on that end. We
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need drastic reform. Abolish no-fault divorce. The entire family court system has to be torn down and
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rebuilt. The system is stacked against men in many ways that are extremely unfair and have ruined
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countless lives. So let's fight for those reforms, absolutely. But this systemic problem
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is not going to be solved today or tomorrow or next week. Abolishing no-fault divorce is just the
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beginning of reforming the system. Lawmakers in a small number of red states have only just started
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to seriously consider that idea, which is merely step one. So we're a long way off from fixing the
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system. It took decades to get us here. It will take decades to get us out at best.
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Anyone who tells you anything else is selling you something. They're selling you a bill of goods.
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This is a decade-long, long-term struggle. The question is, what are young men, young people in
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general, supposed to do in the meantime? And this is where the red pill becomes more of a hazy,
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foggy, ambiguous pill. They have no answer. They simply shout about reforms that are needed,
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yet have nothing to say to the young men in our culture today who will be old, if not dead,
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by the time the system is fixed, if it's ever fixed at all. What are these young men supposed
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to do right now? What kind of life would you have them lead right now, today? The answer,
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it appears, is that an entire generation of young men, if not multiple generations,
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should skip marriage while we wait for the system to improve. But this is not a viable solution.
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It's not a solution at all. It's a surrender. You're asking entire generations to give up their
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bloodline, their legacy, their chance of finding the transcendent joy and meaning that family life
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can provide. You're asking them to give up on themselves and on civilization itself.
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For thousands of years, human beings have always understood that their most basic purpose and
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obligation was to form families and have children. And yet, you're telling these young men to ignore
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this calling and do what? Instead, live for themselves, alone, wasting away in front of screens,
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only to die with no descendants, leaving no lasting mark on the world? Think about the kind of misery
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you're consigning these men to. Think about the catastrophic, probably fatal effect this would
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have on our country. You can't give up on propagating the species for a few decades and then
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pick it back up again like nothing happened. That doesn't work on any level, individually or societally.
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It is a recipe for despair and collapse. Am I saying that young men and women should accept the risk
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then and get married anyway? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. That doesn't mean you should be
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reckless. I've already talked about many practical things you can do to mitigate your own risk so that
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it's not a roll of the dice. You should do all those things. Don't go into marriage blind,
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but don't run from it either. Even if you mitigate the risk to the extent possible,
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still there will be a risk. That's true, but here's the rub. All good things come with risk.
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The more worthwhile it is, the worse and more disastrous it will be if you fail.
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If you take on more responsibility, then your life will be more consequential,
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and the more consequential your life is, the more cataclysmic your failures potentially become.
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A married man with children lives a life of greater consequence than a single man with no children.
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There are more people depending on him. He has a greater stake in the future.
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This means that if things go sideways, it'll be a tragedy. If he screws up or his wife screws up or
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they both do, his life will be ruined, his children will be devastated, and the impact will reverberate
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down through the generations. This is what it means to live a high-impact, consequential life.
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These are the stakes. And yes, they are quite high. Now, sure, you can stave off that sort of
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catastrophe by staying by yourself, never going out on a limb, never taking any risk, never marrying,
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never having kids, never striving for anything great or meaningful in life.
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But then you're not avoiding failure and misery. You are guaranteeing it. You are ensuring that you
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never lose your family in a divorce by never having a family to lose in the first place,
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which is like ensuring that you never go bankrupt by being bankrupt to begin with.
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I'm not going to lose all my money because I'm going to stay broke. I beat the system.
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Um, not losing by having nothing to lose is a loss in itself. And I don't want that for anyone.
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It's not a path to happiness and prosperity for either you or society. It is a path to defeat,
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a preemptive and self-imposed defeat. And that is the worst kind of all.
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Okay, we have some more fun times with our senile president. Conservatives are having a field day
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with this. Some are calling Biden racist, in fact, for this, his latest gaffe. And let's take a look.
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Two of the great artists of our time representing the groundbreaking legacy of hip hop
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in America. LLJ Cool J. By the way, that boy's got, that man's got biceps bigger than my thighs. I think
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he's been. And MC Light, both of you, thank you. Because they both have the light off on the mic,
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you know, you're all here to listen to the new edition. Mike Bivens, 40 years producing music
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that lifts our souls. Okay, so he calls LL Cool J boy. And that's the gaffe that people on the right
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are latching onto, which is pretty lame, if we're being honest. He wasn't being racist.
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And anytime people on the right try to play this leftist game with the racism claims,
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it's always cringe. The, you know, Dems are the real racist bit is always cringe. Unless you're
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accusing them of anti-white racism, which would be much more accurate. And, you know, that's,
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so if you're going to do Dems are the real racist, it should be, they are anti-white racist. That's
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one thing. The real gaffe, of course, is just that he's babbling nonsensically and can't even say the
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name LL Cool J, which obviously his staff should have known. I mean, they should know there's no way
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that this guy could pull that off. LL Cool J. Seems easy. Like it seems pretty, even if you've never
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heard of LL Cool J before, which I'm sure Biden hasn't. It seems like it's pretty easy. LL Cool J.
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There's nothing difficult about any of that, but there are just too many combinations there.
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There's, there are too many ways to bungle it and bungle it. He does LL Cool J because he's senile
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and he's barely sentient at this point, which may also explain the new poll that has the corporate
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media very, very concerned today. Watch. Well, officials here are downplaying these latest
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numbers, but they certainly are cause for concern for Democrats. Look, President Biden is making the
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economic recovery, the cornerstone of his reelection campaign. But our latest ABC News
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Washington Post poll shows Americans overwhelmingly just aren't feeling it, that despite easing
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inflation and low unemployment, Americans really aren't buying into his positive Bidenomics
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message. Just 30 percent of Americans approve of his handling of the economy. In fact, 44 percent
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of people say they are not as well off now as they were when Biden took office. And on another
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hot button issue, immigration, the numbers show only 23 percent of Americans approve of the
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president's handling of that situation. All of this is leading to a dismal approval rating for the
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president, now 19 points underwater. And when it comes to Biden himself, we know this. His age is a
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real political problem for him. Right now, three quarters of Americans, 74 percent, say that he is too old
00:24:52.380
to effectively serve a second term. And a majority of Democrats say someone else should actually be the
00:24:57.100
nominee, though the party is deeply divided on who that someone else should be. And take a look at this
00:25:02.380
when it comes to the head-to-head matchup with Donald Trump. Our poll is an outlier, and it does differ
00:25:07.240
significantly from other recent polling. But our poll shows Trump with a nine-point lead over
00:25:13.040
President Biden, while 538's average polling still has Biden up by roughly two points. And get this,
00:25:19.380
when we ask people if they think that Donald Trump should be constitutionally disqualified from serving
00:25:24.500
another term. Even those who said, yes, that Trump shouldn't be allowed to run, 18 percent of them
00:25:29.460
said that they would still vote for him. So, George, the bottom line here, this is just one poll. We are
00:25:34.220
still a ways out from the election, but these numbers do show some real weaknesses for President
00:25:38.800
Biden, George. So, I will say I don't buy this poll. I mean, not all of it anyway. It's a little too
00:25:45.180
good to be true. And I always question anything that's too good to be true, especially political
00:25:49.800
polling. Well, I question political polling in general to begin with, because I kind of think they're all
00:25:53.600
somewhat fake. But no Republican is going to win a general election by nine points. We don't live
00:26:00.200
in a country where that's even possible at this point. But no matter how you slice it, the numbers
00:26:05.160
are bad for Biden. Because of course they're bad. The country's in terrible shape. The economy's
00:26:10.700
failing. We haven't had good news for his entire presidency. What's the good news that we've had?
00:26:18.340
What have we had to celebrate on a national level? Nothing. He's been the worst president
00:26:25.540
certainly in my lifetime, possibly in the history of the country. He's like, he's in the running for
00:26:30.780
the worst president of all time. And he's visibly falling apart in front of our eyes, which is why
00:26:36.120
ultimately, it's that last point in particular that might make a lot of this sort of a moot point.
00:26:44.820
Because it's increasingly clear that Biden probably will not be the nominee when push comes to shove.
00:26:53.840
And I was skeptical for a while that they would replace him just because that's such a Hail Mary
00:26:58.660
type of play. And it creates all kinds of awkwardness because, of course, you're going to
00:27:03.340
bypass Kamala. There's no way you're going to make her the nominee. That creates all kinds of problems
00:27:07.980
there. But I think they have no choice and they realize they have no choice. I mean, they are right
00:27:15.660
now, Democrats are facing the very real possibility that Biden could lose to a guy who, by the time the
00:27:22.980
general election happens, has been convicted of felony charges and possibly is already in prison.
00:27:31.440
Now, the charges are bogus, but that's what they're looking at. And that's what would make this whole
00:27:36.440
thing backfire on them? There's this, you know, trying to knock Trump out by putting all these
00:27:39.880
charges on. If he wins anyway, then that becomes the greatest political embarrassment
00:27:45.600
maybe ever in history. I mean, in the history of the world.
00:27:52.680
Um, you know, you charge your, your political opponent with all of these, uh, phony crimes,
00:27:59.320
you maybe put him in jail and then he, and he beats you anyway and becomes president. It's,
00:28:04.620
uh, it is, uh, the fact that that's even a possibility is terrifying for the Democrats.
00:28:12.860
And I think they know they can't allow it. So that, so, so he has to be replaced,
00:28:16.000
uh, by who is the question. I think most likely as many people have speculated, of course,
00:28:21.280
I'm not coming up with this on my own is Gavin Newsom in California. And I was also skeptical
00:28:26.020
that Gavin Newsom would actually run for president in 2024. I was skeptical of that until this weekend
00:28:35.440
Taking a live look at the state Capitol right now, where we've learned that Governor Gavin Newsom has
00:28:39.960
voted to vetoed, I should say, vetoed two major bills, one driverless big rigs and the other could
00:28:47.020
impact the parents of trans children. The bill AB 957 would have required judges to consider a parent's
00:28:53.560
affirmation of their child's gender identity in custody cases when parents split up. The author
00:28:58.660
of the bill said it was meant to protect trans kids and content and contentious custody battles.
00:29:03.460
And in explaining the veto, the governor said, quote, I urge caution when the executive and
00:29:09.420
legislative branches of state government attempt to dictate in prescriptive terms that single out
00:29:14.800
one characteristic legal standards for the judicial branch to apply. Now, another bill,
00:29:19.980
the governor vetoed today would have required human operators on board autonomous trucks. This is
00:29:25.820
video from a rally in support of the bill. Just Tuesday, Teamsters, public safety officials and
00:29:30.760
lawmakers had supported the bill, saying that the technology was not safe enough. And in his
00:29:35.820
explanation, the governor says that the bill would ban testing of autonomous trucks, adding that the DMV
00:29:41.640
continuously monitors the testing and operations of autonomous vehicles on Cal.
00:29:46.000
So I don't really need to know about this. The second part is not the driverless cars thing is
00:29:50.620
not, uh, it's not the point. It's the first one. So he vetoes, um, a bill. We talked about this bill
00:29:57.520
on the show a couple of weeks ago that the Dems in California, uh, they want to make it so that
00:30:03.380
affirming your child's trans, uh, quote unquote, trans identity is, uh, is, you know, something that they
00:30:11.000
take into account in family court. And if there's a parent who, who doesn't go along with transing
00:30:16.060
their child, then, uh, then they're going to lose custody of the child. And as we talked about,
00:30:22.240
you know, a part of the, the reason for passing a bill like that is, uh, is to actually create more
00:30:31.660
gender confused children because women in custody battles will, will know that, that, well, this is
00:30:39.680
an easy way to win full custody of the child. I mean, it's easy enough for women to win full custody,
00:30:44.120
especially in California, but this would make it a hundred percent guaranteed. All they have to do is
00:30:50.260
just kind of take their, uh, their son or daughter and whisper in their ear that, Hey, you know, you might
00:30:56.540
actually be the opposite sex, you know, just kind of guide them in that direction towards confusion,
00:31:01.300
which it's not, it's not difficult to confuse a child as society has proven, unfortunately.
00:31:09.740
And then, uh, knowing that the father probably won't go along with it. And then, and then boom,
00:31:13.100
you got them, you know, you, you win full custody. So just a really sinister, evil idea. Gavin Newsom
00:31:19.860
vetoes it. And, uh, there's no reason that he vetoes that bill unless he's running for president.
00:31:25.660
To me, it's like, he might as well just announced, might as well have officially announced his
00:31:30.140
presidential run because he knows that that's poison in a general election. He knows how
00:31:36.180
incredibly gross the transing the kid's agenda looks to normal people. And that's why he vetoed it.
00:31:44.140
And he also knows because he's at least politically aware enough to know this, that, um, that parental
00:31:51.060
rights, this is, this is a, a, it's a major rallying cry across the country and blue states have been
00:32:00.900
flipped red, uh, based on parental rights. So that's why he vetoed it. Now, granted he, he, he did say in
00:32:08.320
his full statement that, um, he essentially said that the bill isn't, isn't actually needed because
00:32:15.060
courts are already taking, uh, kids away from parents who refuse to trans them. That's already
00:32:19.960
happening. And, and he's right. Unfortunately, he's right. That is already happening. So the defeat
00:32:25.740
of this bill doesn't mean much, unfortunately, in the long run, but if he's not running for,
00:32:33.260
for president, then he signs that bill. No question. So what is a matchup between Trump and Newsom look
00:32:38.900
like, uh, that it's hard to say at this point. And I'm sure there's been polling done on it,
00:32:44.640
but that's entirely speculative polling. And I don't think, I'm not sure how much you could take
00:32:48.840
away from it one way or another. Um, it certainly creates a greater challenge for Trump that, you
00:32:55.940
know, just now the, the bar is really low, but Newsom at least is not a brainless vegetable. And so
00:33:03.520
running against a brainless vegetable is always going to be easier than running against someone who's not.
00:33:09.720
Um, and it does kind of flip things on its head because Newsom is a lot younger than Trump. And
00:33:15.280
so then all of a sudden, you know, Trump becomes the old guy in the race and the age thing becomes
00:33:20.660
a factor. And look, I've been saying forever. Um, and there are a lot of conservatives disagree with
00:33:27.100
the fact. In fact, we, we debated this on backstage, if I recall in our most recent backstage episode,
00:33:32.580
and I was the odd man out because what we hear from a lot of conservatives is that,
00:33:35.920
is that, you know, the age thing actually doesn't even matter that much.
00:33:38.900
Uh, the voters don't care about it that much. And when it comes to Trump and when it comes to Biden,
00:33:44.240
rather, you know, what really matters is that he's a, that he's corrupt and he's evil and all
00:33:48.220
this. And of course I agree that that's what matters most about him. But I think the age,
00:33:52.660
the age thing is, is for, for many voters in particular, and I think all the polling shows
00:33:59.580
this, this is a, this is a top concern. Like this is a major problem to be that old and running for
00:34:07.000
president is a major problem for Trump right now. The fact that he's almost as old as Biden doesn't
00:34:11.840
really hurt him because he's, you know, he's, he's still younger than Biden and he's not senile like
00:34:16.720
Biden is. Put on a younger guy and that flips on its head. Okay. Staying on politics for a moment,
00:34:23.600
I also wanted to mention this. Trump has been, um, truth socialing, uh, truthing. I don't know
00:34:28.260
what the, is it truthing? He's been truthing to defend himself against accusations that he sold out
00:34:34.660
the pro-life movement by coming out against heartbeat, uh, abortion bans, calling them terrible
00:34:40.160
things if you recall. But he's really only digging the hole deeper with what he's been saying about
00:34:46.700
it. And I want, I want to read this post from Trump. This is what he said on, uh, when was this?
00:34:51.660
September 23rd. So this was on Saturday. He said, quote, pro-lifers had absolutely zero status on the
00:35:00.180
subject of abortion until I came along for 52 years. Everyone talked, but got nothing. I got it done.
00:35:06.960
There would be no talk of a six week ban or anything else without me. Roe v. Wade allowed
00:35:11.740
the killing of a baby at any time, including the fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth month,
00:35:15.480
and even after birth. They therefore are the radicals, not us. And now because of our Supreme
00:35:20.240
Court victory, the power has shifted. And for the first time, those fighting for the pro-life
00:35:24.380
movement have been given tremendous power on this issue. Before our victory, they had nothing and they
00:35:28.620
will have nothing again if we don't win elections. Like Ronald Reagan, I believe in three exceptions for
00:35:33.060
rape, incest, and life of the mother. You have to follow your heart, but without the
00:35:36.720
exceptions, it'll be very hard to win elections. A six week ban on abortion, among other things,
00:35:40.540
like his fight against social security, Medicare killed the DeSantis campaign.
00:35:46.220
All right. Um, listen, let's just be real about this for a moment. Uh, first of all,
00:35:55.460
it's a great thing that Trump got to appoint three Supreme Court justices and Roe was overturned.
00:36:00.700
It's a great thing. Um, I think the overturning of Roe v. Wade was, uh, uh,
00:36:08.320
one of the great moments in American history, in fact, easily. But that doesn't mean that Trump
00:36:18.020
gets sole credits for the overturning of Roe v. Wade. And, and we wouldn't even, we shouldn't even
00:36:24.820
need to say this. Like, this is not this kind of, uh, parsing of, of, you know, of who gets credit
00:36:30.940
and who doesn't. This is not a conversation that we should even need to have. And I wouldn't be
00:36:35.000
having it if it's not for Trump going out and say pro livers have done nothing. They've done
00:36:38.860
absolutely nothing. I've done everything. Well, when you say that, then it becomes necessary to
00:36:43.540
point out that that is total nonsense. Um, who gets credit for overturning Roe? Well, first of all,
00:36:50.220
we have to give credit to every Republican president who appointed a justice who helped,
00:36:53.480
who helped to overturn it. Trump had three openings to, to fill. That's not because of some brilliant
00:37:00.100
strategy on his part. He just happened to have three and he filled them. Um, but without
00:37:06.960
the conservative justices appointed before Trump's tenure, it also would not be overturned. So we
00:37:13.120
got to give, we got to give credit there. We have to give credit to the Senate Republicans who
00:37:17.340
confirmed the nomination. In fact, Trump would not have had three. He would have had only two,
00:37:22.080
if not for Senate Republicans refusing to confirm Merrick Garland.
00:37:26.320
And in general, listen, it's good that Trump had these openings to fill,
00:37:29.800
but again, you don't get credit for having the openings. That's not something you engineer. It
00:37:34.920
just happens. And, uh, and, and then he filled them. But what else was he going to do? Not fill them?
00:37:41.920
Like you had the openings, of course, so you, you, you nominate someone. Like what,
00:37:46.500
of course you nominate them. What else are you going to do?
00:37:51.760
And he filled them with three judges who any Republican would have appointed, especially
00:37:55.820
Kavanaugh and Gorsuch. Okay. Any Republican, but Jeb Bush in there, they would have appointed
00:38:00.320
Kavanaugh and Gorsuch. Those were just the establishment picks 100% of the way they were
00:38:04.460
top of the list that the, you know, the establishment handed Trump a list and said,
00:38:07.700
here are our guys number one. And then he picked the guy top of the list. And that's what happened.
00:38:11.660
Um, you can make an argument about Barrett, but certainly Kavanaugh and Gorsuch are just like
00:38:17.740
any Republican would have done that. Okay. That's not to say that Trump gets no credit,
00:38:22.720
but it is to say that him wanting to take all of the credits and take it all away from the pro-life
00:38:29.380
movement and accuse them of getting nothing done is just total abject nonsense. And you are
00:38:34.540
unnecessarily picking a fight with, with, with some of your, uh, with, with some of the most
00:38:44.080
important people in your base, people that know how to rally support people who are organized
00:38:49.220
and you're dumping all over them saying they got nothing. They did nothing.
00:38:55.700
Really? The pro-life movement did nothing for 52 years.
00:38:58.200
Well, Trump, Trump was nowhere near the pro-life movement ever at any point. So he doesn't know
00:39:03.640
anything about it. You don't know anything about the pro-life movement. You were never
00:39:07.700
anywhere near it. People that were in the trenches know that pro-lifers were fighting on this issue
00:39:13.660
for years and they saved thousands and thousands and thousands of lives because it's not all just
00:39:21.980
about laws. Okay. Yeah. Pro-lifers in the pro-life movement couldn't do anything about the Supreme
00:39:26.500
Court. Okay. They couldn't solve that problem. It's just, we can't do that. If you're, if you're
00:39:30.660
in the pro-life movement and the Supreme Court is structured the way that it is, you can't help
00:39:37.480
that. That's not their fault. So given that massive disadvantage, pro-lifers found a way to go out
00:39:47.000
into the streets and save thousands of lives. And they did. And if you tell me that's nothing,
00:39:54.220
that's getting nothing done, saving thousands of lives. There are thousands and thousands of people
00:39:58.840
on this earth today who would not be walking around if not for the pro-life movement. And that
00:40:04.580
is a fact because they were out there at these abortion clinics, staring this evil in the face
00:40:12.120
every day, speaking to women, counseling women, doing everything they can,
00:40:18.620
setting up pregnancy centers, giving people other options and everything, you know, all of it.
00:40:29.460
And they got a lot done. And there's, so it's, it's not true to say the pro-lifers did nothing.
00:40:35.380
It's also really stupid politics. And it's just, it's immature nonsense. It's just,
00:40:43.300
I want all the credit. You get none of the credit. If you think demoralizing your own base
00:40:49.540
is a great strategy, then, well, have at it, I guess. Let's see. Another quick thing. Well,
00:40:57.520
not really so quick, but we don't have a lot of time for it right now. So Daily Wire has this
00:41:00.840
report, a 60-minute segment broadcast on Sunday caused an uproar after the show reported that
00:41:05.280
American taxpayers are subsidizing Ukraine's economy and paying for all of Ukraine's first
00:41:10.180
responders. The news comes as a recent Fox poll found that 56% of Republicans say the U.S. should
00:41:16.100
be sending less support to Ukraine. Recent CNN poll found that 55% of Americans say Congress should
00:41:21.180
not authorize additional funding to support Ukraine. Here's a clip from 60 Minutes.
00:41:26.140
American taxpayers are financing more than just weapons. We discovered the U.S. government's buying
00:41:32.320
seeds and fertilizer for Ukrainian farmers and covering the salaries of Ukraine's first responders.
00:41:40.180
All 57,000 of them. That includes the team that trains this rescue dog, named Joy, to comb through
00:41:49.040
the wreckage of Russian strikes looking for survivors. And the U.S. also funds the divers, who we saw
00:41:58.360
clearing unexploded ammunition from the country's rivers to make them safe again for swimming and
00:42:04.640
fishing. Russia's invasion shrank Ukraine's economy by about a third. We were surprised to find that to
00:42:12.100
keep it afloat, the U.S. government is subsidizing small businesses.
00:42:16.500
So that's what we're told now, that originally it was just military support and weapons and all the
00:42:24.400
rest of it. And that was bad enough, by the way. We shouldn't have been doing that. There shouldn't
00:42:30.140
have been a dime going over to that country. Because number one, it is a foreign country. It's not our
00:42:36.140
country. And that's our money. It's not the government's money. We always have to remember
00:42:41.160
that. This is not their money. This is our money. Like they are actively, this is how taxes work.
00:42:49.220
I know it's not news to you, but they are actively taking money out of your paycheck that's supposed
00:42:55.440
to go to your family and sending it to a foreign government. Not just any foreign government, but one
00:43:01.500
of the most absurdly corrupt foreign governments in the world, in the Ukraine government.
00:43:06.240
Ukraine. And now we find out, no big surprise, that we're not just subsidizing the military over
00:43:13.820
there. We're subsidizing the entire economy. We're keeping the whole economy afloat.
00:43:20.380
Now, this Fox News poll says that 56% of Americans say we should be sending less support to Ukraine.
00:43:25.940
That's great, but it should, it's not, well, yes, we should be sending less, but to be specific,
00:43:30.240
the less amount should be zero. None of this should be happening at all. It is, it's truly an outrage.
00:43:45.800
You know, we're supposed to, one of the basic principles of our system is supposed to be no
00:43:52.880
taxation without representation. Where's the representation here? Where's the representation?
00:43:58.500
representation. Like, you're, you're just sending money over to this foreign government to keep
00:44:04.200
their economy afloat, and they're spending on whatever they want to spend it on. Where's the
00:44:08.600
representation? We're not represented there. We have no, even any, there's no accountability,
00:44:14.240
there's no oversight. We, we don't benefit from that. I know this is a, this is a sort of an
00:44:21.160
amazing, uh, provocative concept for many politicians in the country today on the right and the left.
00:44:28.500
So, but in fact, our government should not be spending money on a single thing that does not
00:44:38.300
directly benefit American families. There should not be one single dime spent on anything that does
00:44:48.060
not directly benefit American families. That is the only, maybe I said, it's not the only, but that's the
00:44:53.540
first, uh, question they should, you should ask yourself before we, before we spend money on
00:45:00.280
anything. Does it directly benefit American families? And if it does, then it's pretty good
00:45:07.080
chance that it's a, it's a good expenditure. If the answer to that is no, then, then not one dime should
00:45:16.180
be, should be, uh, sent. And you got to really, you know, to, to argue that propping up the Ukrainian
00:45:26.300
economy and their farmers and everything to argue that that's somehow directly benefits American
00:45:31.960
families. You got to, you got to really stretch and even then you can't do it. There's no direct
00:45:38.060
benefits. You got to real, now you're really connecting the dots and the dots are going all
00:45:41.140
over the place. Well, you know, we helped Ukraine and we does this and does this and does that.
00:45:45.540
And then, uh, you know, eventually you sitting around the dinner table with your family, uh,
00:45:50.300
you are helped as well. But most of the time the politicians, they don't even try to justify
00:45:55.220
these expenditures on the basis of it helping American families. That's the thing that they don't
00:45:59.580
even pretend most of the time that it does benefit us. Instead, they, they just take out the violin
00:46:07.140
and they, uh, they play the sympathy card for Ukraine and they say, well, think of the poor
00:46:10.300
Ukrainians. Think about them. No, I'm not thinking about them. It's not my country.
00:46:16.940
Sorry. It's not my problem. I have my own country to worry about and my own family.
00:46:26.600
Or, or they'll tell us about, well, this is all that's needed for, for the fight for freedom
00:46:30.300
across the globe. I don't care about freedom across the globe either. I mean, first of all,
00:46:36.520
freedom based on, you know, who's, who's definition of freedom. The idea of, of human rights and
00:46:43.680
freedom, that, that certainly is not a concept that has any kind of, there's no universal
00:46:47.700
understanding of what any of that even means anymore. You know, many of the people that talk
00:46:52.180
about freedom across the globe, I mean, these are the same people who don't think that human
00:46:56.080
beings in the womb should be free from execution. So that's not included in their conception of
00:47:01.240
freedom. So when they talk about freedom, I don't even know what you mean, but however you define
00:47:07.400
it, uh, do I care about freedom across the globe? No, not really. That's not our job is to make the
00:47:14.360
whole globe free. It's not possible. It's utopian nonsense. And that's not our concern.
00:47:22.300
Let the people of every country, uh, uh, uh, you know, fight for their own freedom.
00:47:30.720
So this is, this is the kind of thing that should, uh, you know, if, if there's anything that leads
00:47:35.660
to an actual nine point loss for Biden, it should be this kind of thing. But I think people are not
00:47:40.460
nearly as upset about it as they should be. Let's get to, was Walsh wrong?
00:47:44.720
Pythagoras says, uh, it's shocking that you don't think men are inundated with messages that
00:47:53.480
it's empowering to be promiscuous. Have you really not ever heard of Andrew Tate or rap music or ever
00:47:58.520
seen a James Bond movie? Uh, well, James Bond is actually the perfect example to prove my point
00:48:04.600
because James Bond, uh, in recent years has been sort of neutered and feminized and, uh, it's not,
00:48:10.540
it's not really the same character that it used to be back, back in the old days. Andrew
00:48:14.520
Tate is not a mainstream figure. Okay. He's not, he's not celebrated and promoted in the mainstream
00:48:21.940
by mainstream cultural institutions. In fact, it goes the other way, uh, where they would prefer
00:48:28.180
to shut him down and make sure that we don't hear from him. Rap music is a good point though. That,
00:48:35.160
that is the sort of the one exception that I will grant. So, so fair enough. That that's the one
00:48:39.660
exception to the general rule we talked about last week where, where, you know,
00:48:44.220
generally in society, uh, promiscuity is promoted for women and they're, they're actively told that
00:48:52.180
this is a, so it's a liberating thing to be promiscuous, sleep, sleep with a bunch of people
00:48:56.320
and men don't generally get the same message. In fact, usually if a man behaves the same way,
00:49:03.400
it's, it's perfectly acceptable in society to say that person is a, is a deadbeat and is a,
00:49:08.860
is a, you know, is a creep and a loser. Like we could say all those things about a man who,
00:49:13.940
you know, sleeps with, with a bunch of women. Um, for women though, if you, if you give them the
00:49:20.280
same kind of treatment, we're told that it's sexist and it's patriarchal. And that is, I think,
00:49:25.740
undeniably the, the general dynamic in society. And again, when I talk about society, I'm talking
00:49:31.020
about the mainstream cultural institutions that actually run society. Rap music is kind of a
00:49:38.600
carve out though, uh, across the board. I mean, there's, there's rap music. Yeah. Promotes,
00:49:44.520
uh, promiscuity and licentiousness and, and just, just hedonism for men and women. Um,
00:49:52.480
it promotes violence and criminality, you know, it promotes like the worst imaginable behavior. It's,
00:49:58.960
it's like actively encouraging you to be the worst kind of person. And, um, and that is accepted.
00:50:07.420
Like even now, uh, a male rap artist can say things about women that in any other context,
00:50:18.400
I mean, if anyone else was ever to say those same things and use those same words and that same
00:50:24.740
language to describe women that, that, that rap artists do, um, they would be condemned and
00:50:31.080
canceled and all the rest of it. But rappers still basically get away with it. Um, because of the kind
00:50:39.180
of, because of the rap music carve out, the, the, the, the general societal rap music exception that's
00:50:45.260
made. And why is this exception made? Well, because as I've talked about many times, I mean,
00:50:50.520
there's, there's, there's the, the, the victimhood hierarchy in our culture, uh, the victimhood
00:50:56.760
hierarchy that the left has constructed. And it, it, you know, there's always this jockeying and
00:51:02.720
this competing among the various victim groups to be at the top of the pyramid, to be the uber victim,
00:51:08.720
because if you're the uber victim, then, then sort of inversely, you have the most power.
00:51:14.260
And right now, without a question, you know, trans people, it's like LGBT are, are at the top and
00:51:21.360
then the top of the top is trans. And then if you add in other, uh, you know, intersectional points,
00:51:27.580
then you get even farther up the ladder from there. So how does this relate to this? Well, um, women
00:51:34.440
are a victim group in society, um, but they're not at the top of the victim hierarchy.
00:51:41.540
You know, there were, there was a time when they kind of were very close to the top, but they've
00:51:46.600
been supplanted, you know, uh, by LGBT and trans and even the, the racial victims are higher on the
00:51:54.760
hierarchy than women. And that's why rap music gets this exception. Like rappers, because most of
00:52:03.760
them are black, uh, have this, uh, are able to say whatever they want about women because they're
00:52:10.200
higher on the hierarchy than, than women are. So that's why it works that way. But taking rap music
00:52:16.280
side, generally speaking, uh, my, I think my point still, still stands. Um, let's see.
00:52:27.360
That's as close as we've gotten to me being wrong about something. So that's not me being wrong.
00:52:32.100
That's me. Uh, that's a, that's a caveat that I neglected to mention. Texas Dodge dude says prisons
00:52:40.700
using free labor as a for-profit enterprise is a slippery slope. I'm not opposed to the work. I'm
00:52:45.820
not opposed to the conditions. My only issue is providing powerful people, a financial incentive
00:52:51.320
to lock people up. And Paula says working in a hundred plus degree weather with heart conditions,
00:52:56.560
chronic diseases like arthritis. You can think that, uh, your bad thoughts of them,
00:53:00.720
you can think your bad thoughts of them as criminals, but you should not put their health
00:53:05.260
at risk. Current prison conditions should in fact be improved. Um, current prison conditions
00:53:14.060
should be improved in, in, in what way? Now the first comment, you know, that's, yeah, that's
00:53:20.320
always, uh, that's a fair enough concern. Um, I, I still think that, you know, in the vast
00:53:29.260
majority of cases, if you don't want to end up in a prison and you don't want to end up doing hard
00:53:34.940
labor in prison, it's, you know, just don't, don't commit crimes. Like most of the people that
00:53:40.420
are in prison, the vast majority have really worked pretty hard to get there. And to get a long
00:53:47.040
sentence, get anything approaching actual harsh sentence. I mean, you got to re like, you got to
00:53:51.700
go way out of your way to be the worst kind of scumbag imaginable. That's the way it currently
00:53:57.480
works in our system. Um, and as far as putting their, their, their health at risk, I mean, listen,
00:54:04.980
first of all, putting somebody in a, in a cage every day, you know, is, is there's, there's health
00:54:11.560
risks that go with that. There's certainly physical health risks. There's psychological,
00:54:16.740
like mental health risks. Of course, it's not, it's not a healthy thing. So there's no version
00:54:21.660
of prison that we would consider physically and mentally healthy. That, that doesn't exist
00:54:27.960
because it's prison, because, because it's not supposed to be a healthy, wonderful place
00:54:35.780
that you want to be. It is a punishment. And, uh, on top of being a punishment, there's just the
00:54:44.000
practical reality that you have, this is a place where dangerous, where the dregs of society generally
00:54:49.760
go, where very dangerous people go. And so you have to do things like put them in cages.
00:54:55.820
If you don't, they'll kill each other. They'll kill the guards. Like, you know,
00:54:58.840
they'll get out of prison. They'll kill other people. And so you have no choice.
00:55:03.300
But the good news is, as we already established, uh, it's, it's pretty easy to avoid.
00:55:10.840
Like it's pretty easy to not end up in prison, uh, with a long sentence. It's pretty easy to do.
00:55:16.060
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Well, if you've watched this show for a while, you know that if there's anything I'm passionate
00:55:56.640
about, it's contemporary art. Now by that, I don't mean modern art. Every true bonafide art
00:56:01.580
aficionado like myself knows that the era of modern art ended in the 1950s. So when I say I like
00:56:07.080
contemporary art, I mean the new stuff, postmodern art. Can't get enough of it. It's not just the
00:56:11.840
use of technology and text and angles and shapes that I'm into. That goes without saying, speaking
00:56:16.300
as a connoisseur of the fine arts, what I really love about contemporary art is how it's a conversation.
00:56:20.700
There's so much interaction. Through their work, postmodern artists communicate with other
00:56:25.340
artists. And that matters because as Salvador Dali, who I'm always quoting, said, a true artist
00:56:30.660
isn't one who is inspired. A true artist inspires others. So it was with great interest that I
00:56:36.960
observed the installation of a new statue earlier this year on Boston Common. Talked about it on the
00:56:41.760
show at the time. This was a statue that supposedly was about honoring Martin Luther King Jr. But to all
00:56:46.240
outward appearances, it was just a giant penis or perhaps other body parts, depending on where you
00:56:51.200
were standing when you looked at it. This wasn't my observation. Everyone who looked at this thing,
00:56:55.200
of course, came to the same conclusion, including members of MLK's family. And in case you forget what it
00:56:59.200
looked like, we'll show this to you also just because it's always funny to show. So here it is.
00:57:05.260
The 22-foot-tall bronze statue is called The Embrace. The artist says it was inspired by a photo
00:57:11.180
of the couple embracing moments after Dr. King was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 1964.
00:57:17.200
Despite the good intentions, though, it has left many confused, trying to see The Embrace.
00:57:24.260
What else might you see? I mean, everybody's wondering, like, can we see this from a different
00:57:29.920
angle? I've been trying to see The Embrace, ladies, and it's difficult, right?
00:57:36.060
Well, all the conversation about this statue, at least among laypeople and the unwashed masses who
00:57:40.660
are not art mavens like myself, was about how needlessly and inexplicably pornographic the statue
00:57:46.000
was. I mean, what's the point of erecting a large phallus-like object in a public area?
00:57:50.400
That's what everyone was asking. And all the local news stations were giggling about it,
00:57:54.940
as you just saw. But privately, and with my many associates in the postmodern art community,
00:57:59.260
I was asking another question. And that question was, how are future artists going to respond to
00:58:04.880
this? What are the other heroes of left-wing postmodern art going to do in response to the
00:58:10.040
large black bronze penis statue? How will they, in the tradition of Salvador Dali, be inspired by it?
00:58:16.940
Well, it took eight months, but now I finally have the answer to that question. In Palm Springs,
00:58:21.480
California, the city's AIDS Memorial Task Force has just produced plans for a new monument, one that
00:58:27.000
doesn't just respond to the 20-foot-tall bronze phallus in Boston, but complements it. Really,
00:58:33.420
you'd be forgiven for thinking that the same artist designed both monuments. Indeed,
00:58:37.300
this is what postmodern art is all about. And here's what the new monument looks like. Watch.
00:58:42.160
There are concerns tonight about being raised about an AIDS memorial planned for downtown Palm
00:58:48.260
Springs. Right now, the sculpture is planned to look like this. These pictures you're seeing here,
00:58:53.540
some people don't like it. News Channel 3's Jake Ngrossi live in studio with more
00:58:57.460
on the controversy and possible changes in response to those concerns. Jake.
00:59:02.540
And John, it is a nine-foot sculpture planned for a Palm Springs park meant to remember lives lost to HIV
00:59:08.940
and AIDS, but the design doesn't resonate with everyone. In fact, some call it inappropriate,
00:59:14.740
and the committee in charge says they are now listening. It's the proposed AIDS Memorial
00:59:20.780
sculpture, raising hundreds of thousands of dollars in the community and stirring up controversy over
00:59:26.240
its shape. The round limestone statue with concentric carved circles meant to represent the diverse
00:59:32.700
community impacted by AIDS. It's eye-level opening, signifying connection, reflection, and hope. But it's not
00:59:39.820
seen by everyone that way. Some saying it's too abstract. It's really strained. I mean, this is
00:59:46.820
almost like a piece of art looking for a purpose instead of the other way around. It could be about
00:59:51.140
anything, and as consequence, it's kind of about nothing. There's also the view that it too closely
00:59:57.020
resembles other things. You hear it called the donut all the time. You hear it called the word
01:00:02.800
you can't say on camera all the time. For some on social media and beyond, the design resembles an
01:00:08.000
inappropriate body part on the rear end. The backside of the proposed memorial looks like
01:00:14.940
a graphic depiction of the backside of a human being. Now, in that clip, you heard from some haters
01:00:22.120
who don't know anything about art. They don't understand anything about how art interacts with other
01:00:25.740
art. These are bigots who don't care about the connection that this monument is supposed to
01:00:30.220
signify in more ways than one. Instead, they're offended by this gigantic white limestone anus.
01:00:36.600
They're demanding revisions. But think about that, revisions. I mean, how absurd can you be? According
01:00:41.600
to the Palm Springs Post, the designers of this white butt statue spent eight years on this. Eight years
01:00:49.160
coming up with this idea. And during the whole course of the eight years, nobody barely looked
01:00:55.740
at it and said, you know, that that looks kind of like an orifice. It's a little bit of a orifice
01:01:01.500
like thing going on there. Or maybe someone did say that. And then everyone else is like, well,
01:01:06.060
it's fine, though. It'll be fine. No one else is going to notice that. Which just as a general rule,
01:01:12.180
you would think like if if you're making a statue and it even a little bit looks like a bodily orifice,
01:01:17.800
then just come up with a different design. Like if there's a if there's a two percent chance that
01:01:22.900
people will see it as an orifice, then just come up with it's just not worth it.
01:01:29.440
But that's what you might think. But again, this took eight years. So let's show some respect for
01:01:33.220
context. That's longer than it took for the Romans to build the Colosseum. And the Romans actually built
01:01:40.400
it in eight years. It took eight years just come up with that design. So, you know, it has to be
01:01:46.260
good. There's no way the government of Palm Springs could possibly waste eight years on something
01:01:50.540
stupid and grotesque. Plus, the statue has already cost something like half a million dollars,
01:01:55.840
including tens of thousands of dollars from the city's coffers. And after all that time,
01:01:59.520
they managed to produce a statue that does what all great art should do, confuse and horrify people.
01:02:06.240
That's money well spent, if you ask me. Yet, according to the Palm Springs Post, right wing
01:02:11.120
bigots, along with everyone else with two sets, two sets of working eyes, one or one set of working
01:02:17.340
eyes, I guess. Anyway, they want to tear all that down. And I understand the skepticism here. You know,
01:02:22.840
we in the art community, we haven't done a lot to inspire trust lately. It's bad enough when some
01:02:26.700
painting that looks like vomit sells at auction for 90 million dollars or whatever. People look at
01:02:31.120
Hunter Biden selling his finger paintings for tens of thousands of dollars to anonymous buyers in
01:02:36.120
China. And they conclude that the whole art scene is just a giant money laundering operation. And I
01:02:41.160
get it. But what you cavemen don't understand is that all this postmodern art is doing is reflecting
01:02:47.460
the society we live in. The brilliant artists who constructed the bronze phallus and the limestone
01:02:51.620
anus are simply holding up a mirror. And if you don't like what you see, that's not their fault.
01:02:58.360
Consider the fact that it's not just our art that looks like this. Our buildings are ugly,
01:03:02.000
too. So is our music. Even our people are ugly, often intentionally so. So-called beauty brands
01:03:07.820
are signify or signing up morbidly obese women and calling it progressive. And all of this is
01:03:13.160
intentional. So I've been a little maybe sarcastic and flippant about this, which is a real change of
01:03:20.520
pace for me. It's not like me to be sarcastic. But all of this maybe makes the AIDS statue a little
01:03:26.700
less amusing once you think more about it. Because it's not just some one-off perverted monument. It's
01:03:32.500
not a gaffe by an artist who has no idea what he's doing. In fact, it's part of a deliberate campaign,
01:03:37.640
one I've talked about extensively, to throw ugliness in our face everywhere we go. That's
01:03:43.000
why it took eight years to make this thing. They did it on purpose. This wasn't some rushed draft.
01:03:47.660
It's perfectly in keeping with what we're seeing all over the place. A century ago, you know,
01:03:51.580
cutting-edge architecture in this country was Art Deco. And it was instantly recognizable from
01:03:56.240
Rockefeller Center and the Empire State Building to the Carlisle Hotel in Miami Beach. Before that,
01:04:00.700
we had neoclassical architecture, which describes many of the buildings on Capitol Hill. And most
01:04:05.800
Americans prefer that kind of architecture, by the way. A survey from the National Civic Arts Society
01:04:09.440
from 2020 showed that this traditional architecture is preferred among all demographic groups. You know,
01:04:14.100
it doesn't matter education, age, ethnicity, or whatever. What we have now, what no one wants,
01:04:19.120
is homogenous architecture being made by the same people and copy-pasted all over the country.
01:04:24.480
As New York Times recently reported in 2021, quote, five of the 25 largest developers were
01:04:28.960
responsible for starting construction on nearly 47,000 units in the United States, about 40%
01:04:33.600
of the output of the whole group. The CEO of Graystar Real Estate Partners, which is responsible for more
01:04:38.620
of those units than anyone else, told the Times that many of their buildings look the same because of
01:04:43.140
government regulations. Quote, I don't want to say it's colored by the numbers, but in some cities,
01:04:47.360
it's colored by numbers. Now, if you assume that the Graystar CEO is telling the truth and we have no reason
01:04:51.760
to think he's lying, then you still have to answer a fundamental underlying question. If you grant that
01:04:56.740
governments are mandating homogenous, ugly architecture, which seems to be a safe assumption,
01:05:02.740
then you still have to figure out why that's happening. Like, why is the government telling developers
01:05:07.720
that they can't produce creative, interesting structures like the ones we built a century ago?
01:05:13.100
Given everything else we know about the government, the answer seems obvious.
01:05:17.740
It comes down to the point that beauty points inevitably to God. And when Western civilization
01:05:25.180
was Christian, it created the greatest works of art mankind has ever seen and the most beautiful
01:05:31.440
buildings and everything else. Now Western governments are secular and it's no surprise that
01:05:36.340
it produces, therefore, the dreariest art mankind has ever seen. Our elites want us demoralized
01:05:42.720
and depressed. They want us high on legalized pot as we listen to lectures on how racist we are,
01:05:48.880
as we're staring at the same uninteresting buildings that everyone else in the country is looking at,
01:05:52.760
and gawking at sculptures that look like body parts below the waist.
01:05:57.100
Beautiful art has the opposite effect. It reminds us that there's a greater power than any of us,
01:06:02.240
greater than any government. It tells us the importance of creativity and soul and risk-taking,
01:06:08.040
and our government can't have that. So instead of beauty, we get butt sculptures and hideous buildings
01:06:14.300
and rap songs where semi-literate drug addicts shout about their genitalia.
01:06:19.940
Now perhaps on second thought, I'm no art expert. I don't even know what postmodern art is,
01:06:24.740
honestly, if I'm being honest. What I do know is that the Fallos statue and the butt monument are
01:06:29.800
individually hilarious, but taken together, they're profoundly depressing. Especially when you compare
01:06:35.380
what ancient civilizations were able to create in the amount of time it takes us to sculpt a giant
01:06:40.120
rectum. This is a sign of cultural rot, of the decline of morality and passion and original thinking
01:06:47.600
in the United States. Maybe the artist in question didn't intend to send that message. Maybe they
01:06:53.160
didn't intend the butt and the Fallos to be any kind of metaphor, but it is one. And anyone who's ever
01:06:59.460
driven through downtown Seattle or Nashville or Denver or any number of major American cities knows
01:07:04.140
that. And that is why ultimately, postmodern artists and soulless government bureaucrats and
01:07:09.580
everyone else who wants to suppress what's left of creativity and humanity and beauty in this country
01:07:14.500
are today all canceled. And that'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for
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listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.