The Matt Walsh Show - October 17, 2018


Ep. 125 - On The Left, ＂Trans Rights＂ Trump Women's Rights


Episode Stats


Length

26 minutes

Words per minute

162.28566

Word count

4,262

Sentence count

281

Harmful content

Misogyny

10

sentences flagged

Hate speech

20

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

Transgender cyclist Rachel McKinnon is the first woman to win the Master s Track Cycling World Championship, but not everyone is happy about it. Is it because she is a woman or because she's a man? And what does that have to do with race and gender?

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 So a man named Rachel McKinnon just won the Women's World Cycling Championship.
00:00:04.180 McKinnon is a college professor in South Carolina.
00:00:06.960 He's also, naturally, of course, he's also from Canada originally, naturally, of course, no offense to Canadians.
00:00:12.980 And he, and he's a man too, I should mention that, he beat a bunch of women at the Master's Track Cycling World Championship.
00:00:21.880 I know I don't have to tell you who won the Master's Track Cycling World Championship.
00:00:25.700 I mean, we've all been following it very closely.
00:00:27.220 But he won it, and he, of course, calls himself transgender, which is how he got away with racing a bunch of girls. 0.75
00:00:33.780 Now, the gentleman was not very gracious in victory.
00:00:38.460 He was, even I would frankly say, not very ladylike.
00:00:42.300 He bragged about the victory on Twitter.
00:00:44.260 He said, first transgender woman world champion ever, which is a bit like bragging that you're the first adult to hit 40 home runs in t-ball.
00:00:54.340 You know, it's not exactly, not exactly something that I would brag about.
00:00:59.440 Let me give you a little bit of the LifeSite News articles, the article on this.
00:01:03.340 It says, McKinnon's participation in the bracket was made possible last year when another Canadian trans cyclist, Kristen Worley, won a human rights settlement that secured a commitment from Cycling Canada that would allow him to compete against women.
00:01:17.860 But while pro-LGBT groups are celebrating the news as a milestone for equality, critics argue that letting men who merely declare womanhood compete with actual women is unfair because it provides an unfair advantage to the man.
00:01:31.200 But McKinnon spent part of his Sunday disputing the point on Twitter, arguing that, quote, there's no relationship in any gender between testosterone and performance.
00:01:40.240 That's his that is his scientific view.
00:01:42.940 He's saying that testosterone doesn't give you any advantage in terms of strength or endurance or or anything like that.
00:01:50.620 It's no, no, not at all.
00:01:52.680 It's a it's a myth.
00:01:53.740 Interesting, though, as LifeSite News points out, McKinnon earlier in the year, in January, took a very different approach.
00:02:03.300 And back then he didn't say that, well, I don't have an advantage.
00:02:05.880 He said that the advantage is irrelevant because this is about rights.
00:02:10.400 This is about my human rights.
00:02:11.500 This is what he said.
00:02:12.220 He said by catering to cisgender people's views, that only furthers transgender people's oppression.
00:02:18.720 When it comes to extending rights to a minority population, why would we ask the majority? 1.00
00:02:24.580 Translation, what is it?
00:02:25.960 Who cares what the women think? 1.00
00:02:27.160 This is all about me.
00:02:29.080 I bet a lot of white people were pissed off when we desegregated sports racially and allowed black people in.
00:02:34.660 But they had to deal with it.
00:02:35.880 And there again, you have this you have this propensity by those in the LGBT camp to constantly compare their complaints to the historic plight of black Americans, which I think is is not only very stupid and not only very arrogant and not only extraordinarily historically illiterate, but it's also racist.
00:03:04.100 I think it's pretty racist when you've got this privileged white man who's had everything in life handed to him.
00:03:10.220 He gets whatever he wants.
00:03:11.480 You know, we'll even bend and break and change the rules for his sake.
00:03:15.620 Whatever you want, Mr. McKinnon, you could have anything.
00:03:19.140 That's that's what he gets.
00:03:20.480 And yet he's comparing his supposed trials and tribulations to to black Americans who we should recall were slaves in this country and then were were were were for for a century after that.
00:03:39.060 We're not legally considered or allowed to be full participants in society.
00:03:44.900 And he's comparing himself as a white guy.
00:03:49.040 I, you know, I would consider that racist because it's so trivializes the historic plight of black Americans.
00:03:56.580 And it uses that plight in such a cynical and emotionally manipulative and dishonest way that I don't know what else to call it, but racist.
00:04:04.860 All right.
00:04:06.920 So a few other things to point out here.
00:04:08.780 First of all, I want to refer back again to the leftist victim hierarchy or the victim pyramid, if you will.
00:04:19.680 And I, you know, go back in your notes because it's important.
00:04:22.060 You got to go back and look at this thing.
00:04:24.240 And I'm all you know, I talk about this a lot because this helps us to kind of sort through what's going on on the left, because we see that, yeah, the left makes victims out of various different demographic groups.
00:04:36.400 But they're not all equal victims.
00:04:40.020 And they can't be because what happens when the groups, when certain victim groups bump heads?
00:04:47.140 What happens then?
00:04:48.940 What happens when one victim group is claiming that it's being victimized by another?
00:04:53.840 Well, then what do you do?
00:04:55.040 It's easy enough when any of the victim groups says that they're being victimized by white males, I should say, by white heterosexual cisgender males.
00:05:05.000 Well, then it's easy enough to say, well, the white heterosexual male is always wrong.
00:05:09.420 But what happens when you have this intervictim conflict?
00:05:15.920 Well, that's where you have the that's where the hierarchy comes into play.
00:05:18.940 You have the you know, the most important victims at the top, and then it kind of goes down in importance from there.
00:05:24.900 And you will notice that the top victims, the alpha victims, the victims who victimization trumps all others, the victims victim.
00:05:35.180 They are the people in the LGBT camp. 0.89
00:05:38.260 And at the top of that subgroup, at the top of the top of the top, the most important of the most important, the uber victims are transgenders. 1.00
00:05:48.940 They their victimization claims trump everybody else every time.
00:05:55.480 They are the trendiest and most important victims right now.
00:05:58.800 And that, you know, these these things change that could change over time.
00:06:02.660 And here's how this works.
00:06:04.040 When a victim who is lower on the pyramid is victimized by a victim higher on the pyramid, that is, a less important victim victimized by a more important victim.
00:06:16.520 Then if the less important victim complains about being victimized, then all of a sudden she is is the is is is the bully.
00:06:27.180 And she has victimized the person who's victimizing her.
00:06:30.360 I know this is confusing.
00:06:31.500 I know I know it's hard to keep up.
00:06:32.660 But this is look, this is the convoluted way that things work on the left.
00:06:37.260 Don't blame me.
00:06:38.060 Don't shoot the messenger.
00:06:38.840 I'm just telling you the way that works for them.
00:06:40.360 All you have to remember is that.
00:06:45.360 On the victim hierarchy.
00:06:47.020 You can never be victimized by someone who is higher than you, who is more important than you.
00:06:56.320 So transgenders are at the top, which means that they are victimized by everyone.
00:07:01.340 In fact, maybe we should think of this as an upside down pyramid.
00:07:04.080 OK, so it's an upside down pyramid and you have the, you know, the most important victims at the bottom.
00:07:08.620 And that would be that would be transgenders. 1.00
00:07:11.180 They're down here at the tip.
00:07:12.200 And so all of the victimization trickles down.
00:07:15.760 And so they're victims of everybody all the time.
00:07:21.000 Even when they're stealing championships, even when they're cheating, even when they're being absolutely selfish bullies and narcissists, they are still the victims of everybody.
00:07:32.060 And then from there, you know, you've got so you've got most important victims are transgenders. 1.00
00:07:36.140 And then you've got all the rest of the then you've got the other then you've got the LG and B in the acronym and the Q and the Z and all the rest.
00:07:44.060 So then they're the second most important.
00:07:45.820 Then you have racial minorities, third most important.
00:07:47.780 And then you have women. 0.99
00:07:48.620 So on the left, women are kind of kind of far down in on the totem pole, really. 1.00
00:07:55.980 And that's why if a transgender wants to steal a championship from a woman, the woman just has to shut up and go along with it. 1.00
00:08:06.540 And if a transgender, even in this in this in this day and age of me, too, and rape culture and consent and everything, you know, we've got this emphasis on consent.
00:08:16.380 Even now, if a man who calls himself transgender wants to go into a locker room where a woman is exposed and getting changed and vulnerable and the woman is not comfortable, she has to just shut up and take it.
00:08:30.720 She's not allowed to complain.
00:08:33.960 So and I bring that up because that just shows you how completely and totally the victimization claim of the transgender will trump the woman every time. 1.00
00:08:46.380 Now, by the way, there is also a predator or victimizer hierarchy, a hierarchy of villains for the leftists.
00:08:54.820 And of course, at the very top are straight white males.
00:08:57.460 And then right below them are conservative women. 1.00
00:08:59.680 And then conservative minorities are are there as well.
00:09:03.320 But the crazy thing is, and this is where it gets really complicated.
00:09:06.640 But so the the number one, the worst bullies and predators for the left, they are white males, right? 0.95
00:09:14.780 Um, straight white males.
00:09:19.600 But so they're at the top of the victimizer hierarchy.
00:09:23.120 But you could actually jump from the top of that pyramid to the top of the a man can actually make that leap.
00:09:29.020 A white man could actually go from being the worst villain in the world to being the to being the martyr, the most precious victim.
00:09:36.920 Uh, if he simply puts on a wig and calls himself transgender. 0.85
00:09:41.060 So that's an interesting point here.
00:09:43.940 Second thing I want to point out is that it's often been claimed that Christianity, uh, stifles silent science or is afraid of science.
00:09:54.120 Um, and this claim is largely unfounded.
00:09:57.380 In fact, through the centuries, Christians have not only supported science, but many of the greatest scientific minds have been Christian.
00:10:05.940 But it is interesting now that so that's just a fault.
00:10:09.520 It's a false claim.
00:10:11.000 That Christianity stifles science. 1.00
00:10:12.920 It doesn't.
00:10:14.000 But it's interesting now that on the left, you see them doing exactly what they have always accused Christians of doing.
00:10:21.440 You see them utterly rejecting science, militating against science, rejecting it, um, cursing it, saying, you know, science be gone, get out, get out, get away, evil science.
00:10:34.840 And they're doing all of that in the name of their faith.
00:10:38.400 Because transgenderism is a matter of faith.
00:10:41.840 To say that a penis bearing Y chromosomed man can be a woman if he feels like one is a doctrinal statement. 0.86
00:10:49.820 It's a statement of dogma.
00:10:51.720 It has no relation to science whatsoever.
00:10:54.120 That is not a scientific statement whatsoever.
00:10:57.980 It is a, it is a statement of faith.
00:11:00.240 Now, there are some Christians who believe that the world was really created in seven days.
00:11:07.120 Um, they're wrong.
00:11:09.980 And there's no reason at all to draw that conclusion from the Bible.
00:11:15.260 Um, after all, the Bible talks about days.
00:11:19.820 He uses the word day before the earth even exists.
00:11:24.700 In fact, it says day before, or I should say, it is, it says, it talks about days, um, certainly before the sun even exists.
00:11:33.700 The sun doesn't come into existence in the creation story until the fourth, until the fourth day.
00:11:37.600 And even on so-called, the, the, the, the first day, the earth is shapeless.
00:11:43.740 Um, it's not a, it's, it's, it's, it is a, it is a shapeless mass in the creation story.
00:11:50.580 Which means that there cannot be a day in the earthly sense yet.
00:11:55.000 Because in order to have an earth day, you need to have a sun.
00:11:58.520 You need to have a, a, a spherical earth rotating on its axis and orbiting the sun.
00:12:05.740 That's, that is what an earth day is by definition.
00:12:09.120 And you cannot have that in the creation story until the fourth day.
00:12:12.700 So that tells us that we're not talking about that kind of day.
00:12:17.380 Um, but anyway, I don't want to get, uh, I'm going to get sidetracked on that.
00:12:24.320 But the point is, um, a Christian who says that, uh, the, the whole universe was created
00:12:34.880 in, in seven days or six days, really, that is his opinion based on faith.
00:12:42.500 Um, you know, based on faith.
00:12:45.580 And I think based on a bad exegesis, uh, it's, so it's, you know, not again, as Christians, 0.99
00:12:52.480 that is not a position that we have, that we must hold.
00:12:55.440 It is possible actually to, to, to interpret the Genesis story in a way that comports with,
00:13:01.840 um, with what we know about, um, you know, what we know scientifically about the world.
00:13:08.280 But it's a statement of faith.
00:13:09.760 Um, science very much repudiates and contradicts that interpretation.
00:13:16.040 And, you know, there's, there's no getting around it.
00:13:17.620 So a Christian who, who sticks to that knows that, that he is, you know, that he's, that's,
00:13:22.120 that's an opinion that he's holding, uh, uh, totally apart from science.
00:13:27.800 And it's the same sort of thing for leftists.
00:13:30.860 And I, you know, I'm not comparing these two views.
00:13:33.140 There are different kinds of views, but it's the same sort of dynamic for leftists.
00:13:37.840 Um, and I bring this up because leftists like to pretend that they don't have any religious
00:13:41.700 views, that they don't have any faith or anything like that, but they do because that's
00:13:46.140 what this is.
00:13:47.740 A leftist who talks about men who become women and women who become men and how they can make
00:13:54.300 this transition based entirely on their feelings.
00:13:57.620 That is, that is all, that's pure religion.
00:14:01.260 That is their religion.
00:14:02.660 I even saw, I saw a story a few days ago, um, about a woman who became a man and then became
00:14:10.140 a dog.
00:14:10.940 Okay.
00:14:11.380 That's not a joke.
00:14:12.360 It was, it was a story.
00:14:13.400 I saw it online a few days ago, it was a woman who identifies as a man who identifies
00:14:18.380 as a male dog.
00:14:22.680 So that's, and now, now, now here's, here's the fascinating thing.
00:14:26.940 If she would then identify as a male dog who identifies as a female dog who identifies as
00:14:34.080 a female person, then that would actually close the loop. 1.00
00:14:37.620 And I think it may, it may in fact create a black hole that would obliterate the solar
00:14:41.220 system, I'm pretty sure, uh, which would not necessarily be, um, in, you know, an unfortunate
00:14:50.140 turn of events.
00:14:52.800 The point is, this is pure faith, pure religion, pure dogma.
00:14:57.340 It's not science.
00:14:58.500 There is no science in this.
00:15:00.020 There is no science in a woman who says, I'm a man and I'm also a dog. 1.00
00:15:04.040 Uh, that's not science.
00:15:06.060 That's pure faith.
00:15:07.580 Uh, science says that men have XY chromosomes and penises. 0.62
00:15:12.120 That's what science says.
00:15:13.320 Science knows nothing of women trapped in man bodies. 1.00
00:15:17.780 It knows nothing of that.
00:15:19.620 Uh, that is a very weird kind of spiritual dualism that just is not scientific.
00:15:28.860 So there is certainly religion and faith on the left.
00:15:37.460 Um, and in fact, to hold to their religious views and their faith-based views requires,
00:15:44.340 I think, quite a bit more faith than it does to believe, for instance, the Bible.
00:15:49.340 Third point, um, notice the incredible arrogance here.
00:15:53.580 I always touched on, I already touched on this, but, but, uh, that's the other thing
00:15:58.340 that jumps out at you with a lot of this identity stuff on the left.
00:16:02.180 It's very self-absorbed.
00:16:03.900 You know, it's very, it's very me, me, me, me focused.
00:16:08.120 This man has no concern for anyone else at all.
00:16:12.220 It's only about what he wants, what makes him comfortable.
00:16:15.360 Now, I, I do think that at the root of transgenderism, there is obviously mental disorder. 1.00
00:16:23.300 You know, there's obviously mental disorder going on, but I don't think it's only mental
00:16:28.600 disorder.
00:16:29.260 As we've seen, this idea of, of gender identity, it's kind of expanded so that more and more
00:16:36.200 people are discovering different and exotic and strange, fancy new forms of identity.
00:16:40.820 Um, it's become kind of a trend.
00:16:45.400 And so I don't think you can explain it all just by saying, well, it's all mental disorder.
00:16:48.860 There's something else going on.
00:16:50.620 I think there are plenty of people now who are basically mentally stable, yet they've seen
00:16:58.340 this gender identity stuff.
00:17:00.360 Um, they see the left's ideology about identity and they choose consciously that, okay, I'm going
00:17:07.320 to buy into this because there's something about it that appeals to them.
00:17:11.080 There's something about it that, that they like.
00:17:14.120 And I think the thing that appeals to them about it is that it is so self-focused, you
00:17:22.060 know, it is so focused on the ego and on the self and it kind of, it presents the human
00:17:28.700 person as this sort of disembodied ego and everything about the world, everything about
00:17:36.180 reality, everything about yourself, you get to determine to the point where you can even
00:17:42.040 determine your, your biology.
00:17:44.140 Everything is up to you.
00:17:46.600 So it turns the self into this God-like figure.
00:17:49.800 Um, and I think there's something else too, um, and this is a very interesting aspect of
00:17:57.460 the, uh, so-called transgender phenomenon.
00:18:00.120 I think what you also find is that everybody has a deep yearning to find identity in something
00:18:12.420 transcendent and something deeper and, um, more profound than simply their material.
00:18:20.220 Right.
00:18:23.040 You know, it's, it's hard for anyone to really be a materialist.
00:18:27.700 You know, very few people want to say, well, I'm just skin and bones.
00:18:30.960 That's all I am.
00:18:31.680 That's all there is to me.
00:18:32.860 And that's it.
00:18:34.700 So everybody wants a transcendent identity.
00:18:37.000 Now for Christians, we find our transcendent identity in Christ.
00:18:41.520 That's where we find primarily first and foremost, our triscent, triscent, transcendent identity.
00:18:46.920 We say, we're not just skin and bones and flesh.
00:18:49.620 We are, you know, we are children of God.
00:18:52.680 That's our identity.
00:18:53.920 And then we would also say kind of growing from that root.
00:18:57.840 Um, I would say, well, another aspect of my identity is that I'm a husband and I'm a father.
00:19:04.660 Um, so I find my identity in all of that, but on the left, well, they've rejected God.
00:19:12.460 Um, they reject the family as a, as, as a patriarchal institution.
00:19:16.520 Um, they reject parenthood much of the time because parenthood infringes on their, on their
00:19:24.980 autonomy and, and on their, um, ability to have a convenient and pleasurable life.
00:19:30.600 So they reject all that, you know, they reject all of the sources where they could find a
00:19:35.020 transcendent identity and they're left only with themselves, but that's not good enough.
00:19:43.940 That's very depressing.
00:19:45.240 And so now they have found a different sort of transcendent identity in this kind of spiritual,
00:19:50.500 superstitious, uh, faith-based idea of transcend, transgenderism and gender identity and all of
00:19:56.620 that.
00:19:58.300 Um, and the reason why they prefer it to finding their identity in God or even in family is that
00:20:06.160 over here on the left, this transcendent identity again is all self-focused and it requires no
00:20:12.140 sacrifice on your part.
00:20:13.580 It's all about you.
00:20:15.960 Whereas if you're going to find your identity in God, well, then you have to serve God.
00:20:19.000 If you're going to find your identity in your family, then you have to serve your family.
00:20:21.700 They don't want to do all that.
00:20:22.700 So instead I'll just serve myself and this is where I find my identity.
00:20:26.400 All right.
00:20:27.040 Um, so there's that story.
00:20:31.180 Here's another story.
00:20:31.940 I wanted to switch in gears here.
00:20:32.980 I wanted to call your attention to one other thing very quickly.
00:20:34.820 Uh, it's a better story, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll end on a, on a, a more, uh, positive
00:20:41.160 note.
00:20:42.340 Kelvin Cochran was the former fire chief of Atlanta, very accomplished guy started as one
00:20:48.700 of the first black fire fighters in Atlanta.
00:20:51.840 Uh, then he rose through the ranks to become the fire chief.
00:20:55.200 And then he was hired by Obama to run a division of FEMA.
00:20:59.380 Atlanta and then he was recruited back to Atlanta because the fire department was struggling
00:21:03.760 in his absence.
00:21:04.840 So this was a very sought after guy, very respected, very good at his job.
00:21:09.500 And then, um, a few years ago, Mr. Cochran wrote a short devotional book about his Christian
00:21:15.620 faith in which he mentioned that, uh, the fact that marriage according to the Bible is
00:21:21.220 between a man and a woman.
00:21:22.100 And I believe that this was something that he mentioned only on like one page of the book.
00:21:26.120 I'm pretty sure he shared the book with a few people.
00:21:29.380 Next thing, you know, because he wrote this book expressing his Christian faith, expressing
00:21:34.500 a faith by the way, that is shared by millions of people in the country.
00:21:38.880 Uh, next thing, you know, he's suspended without pay from his job.
00:21:41.640 He's forced to attend sensitivity training.
00:21:43.580 And finally he's fired.
00:21:45.880 Well, he went back and sued the city for violating his first amendment rights.
00:21:49.420 And earlier this week, in a huge victory for the first amendment, he was awarded $1.2 million,
00:21:54.400 uh, which is, which is great.
00:21:56.800 Um, and this was an easy one.
00:21:58.240 Okay.
00:21:59.200 Should have been an easy one.
00:22:00.300 Anyway, this is an easy case to figure out.
00:22:02.800 He was fired from his job with the government because of his personal religious views.
00:22:09.880 That is straightforward in front.
00:22:12.780 You know, that is one of the more straightforward and clear cut cases of first amendment infringement
00:22:17.840 that you're ever going to find.
00:22:19.080 Now they did an investigation, um, while he was suspended before they fired him, they did
00:22:26.160 an investigation and they, and they found no evidence that he had ever discriminated
00:22:30.440 against anyone.
00:22:31.240 Even though he had outed himself as a Christian and as someone who believes in biblical marriage,
00:22:34.840 they found no evidence that he had ever discriminated against anyone, including homosexuals.
00:22:40.340 In fact, he was well known before that point for being very inclusive, um, very progressive
00:22:46.480 in that sense, you know, being inclusive and tolerant.
00:22:49.120 He's a black man himself who experienced discrimination himself very early in his, in his career.
00:22:54.260 So it makes sense that he would be a tolerant and inclusive kind of guy, and you're not going
00:22:59.640 to get hired by Obama to run a federal agency, um, or to, you know, you're not going to get
00:23:04.780 hired to a federal post by Obama unless you were progressive and tolerant in that way or
00:23:11.020 tolerant towards different sexual orientations anyway.
00:23:14.880 But he was fired anyway.
00:23:17.360 They investigated him because he, he declared his Christian faith.
00:23:21.000 They found no evidence of discrimination, said, we're going to fire you anyway, because
00:23:25.640 they didn't like his religion, fired him purely for his religious views, purely because the
00:23:30.280 city council didn't agree with his religion and, uh, he sued.
00:23:33.480 And finally he's getting $1.2 million.
00:23:36.440 Now, I think what you, um, when you look at this case, then you look at the masterpiece
00:23:41.860 cake shop, which was a victory for Jack Phillips.
00:23:44.820 It was not the full on complete total victory that it could have been and should have been,
00:23:51.940 but it was still a victory.
00:23:53.920 Um, and it was yet again, a government agency being repudiated, being reprimanded for targeting
00:24:01.700 someone based on their faith.
00:24:02.940 And so I think what we see here is that, um, you know, it turns out the first amendment is
00:24:08.640 pretty, is pretty, is pretty straightforward.
00:24:11.120 The first amendment is pretty explicit, pretty clear.
00:24:14.440 It says that you have free exercise of religion and it cannot be abridged.
00:24:19.040 It cannot be infringed.
00:24:20.340 That's what the first amendment says.
00:24:23.220 It's, it's, it's not written in coded language.
00:24:25.640 It's not written in invisible ink.
00:24:27.200 You don't need a secret decoder to read it, read it.
00:24:29.160 It's right there.
00:24:29.840 You have freedom of religion in this country.
00:24:32.940 And I think what that means is that the left eventually, they're going to realize that,
00:24:40.140 you know, there really is no getting around that.
00:24:43.240 Obviously they want to get rid of religious liberty, but as long as the first amendment 0.65
00:24:47.900 exists, there's, there's just no way they can do it.
00:24:52.520 So I think for the left, for progressives, their only option in the end is going to,
00:24:57.560 well, their only option really is to revoke the first amendment is to get rid of it,
00:25:01.340 repeal it.
00:25:02.940 Uh, we're certainly not at a place yet where they're going to start openly advocating for
00:25:07.120 that.
00:25:08.600 But I would predict that in 10, 15 years, that's going to be a mainstream view on the left
00:25:16.900 that at the very, maybe not repeal the entire first amendment, but to take religion out of 0.66
00:25:23.200 the first amendment, because their argument is, is that, is that religion is not a legitimate
00:25:28.280 thing in the first place.
00:25:30.280 Uh, religion is superstition, even though, as I established earlier, we, they have their 0.98
00:25:34.860 own religion and their own faith-based views, but that's their, that's their point of view.
00:25:38.960 Religion is just not, it's an oppressive institution. 1.00
00:25:41.160 It's not legitimate.
00:25:42.180 Um, so I would expect that eventually 10 to 15 years, maybe earlier, um, you're going
00:25:50.340 to find, it's going to be a mainstream view on the left that freedom of religion must
00:25:56.140 be taken out of the first amendment because that's the only way for them to, um, ultimately
00:26:02.640 achieve their goals here.
00:26:04.660 But in the meantime, let's celebrate, um, Kelvin Cochran and his great, great victory.
00:26:11.500 Well-deserved.
00:26:13.300 Thanks for watching everybody.
00:26:14.480 Thanks for listening.
00:26:15.340 Godspeed.