Ep. 1259 - The 'Fact Checkers' Have Been Monitoring My Podcast And They Don't Like What They've Heard
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There are a number of left-wing organizations you ve never heard of that determine what information you can access online. One of them is called NewsGuard, and now they re coming after me for alleged misinformation on my podcast. Also, the mayor of Nashville announces an investigation into the leak of the Covenant Shooters Manifesto, schools in Pittsburgh begin a program to make math more equitable, and Republicans turn in another poor election day performance. Now they re trying to scapegoat pro-lifers for it.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, there are a number of left-wing organizations you've never heard of
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that determine what information you can access online. One of them is called NewsGuard,
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and now they're coming after me for alleged misinformation on my podcast. We'll talk about
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that. Also, the mayor of Nashville announces an investigation into the leak of the Covenant
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Shooters Manifesto. Schools in Pittsburgh begin a program to make math more equitable, whatever
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that is supposed to mean. And Republicans turn in another poor election day performance.
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Now they're trying to scapegoat pro-lifers for it. We'll talk about all that and more today on
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There's an old story from the early 20th century Russian empire. It goes something like this. A man on the
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street yells, Nikolay is a moron. A police officer hears this and thinking that the guy is referring to the
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czar, Nicholas II. The cop arrests the man. The guy protests, well, no, officer, I didn't mean our respected
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czar, but another Nikolay. And then the cop responds, don't try to trick me. If you say moron, you're obviously
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referring to the czar. Now, who knows whether that story is true or not? It's on Wikipedia, so it's probably made up.
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Whatever the case, it does reveal a fundamental truth about thugs and autocrats, which is that the more
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authoritarian they become, the more amusing they often are, if only unintentionally. They just can't help
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themselves. And of course, we're seeing that today pretty much everywhere we look. One of the ironies of the death of
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humor on the left is that without realizing it, leftists have suddenly become some of the funniest people on the
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planet, again, unintentionally. Case in point, yesterday afternoon, I opened my email and I found a message from
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somebody named Jack Brewster. Jack said he works for a company called NewsGuard, which says that it applies, quote,
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various metrics of credibility and transparency to news organizations and podcasts so that, quote,
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consumers, advertisers, researchers, and others can make more informed decisions about which media
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they choose to consume and support. It's all very serious stuff that we absolutely need some
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shadowy organization with an Orwellian name like NewsGuard to handle for us. There's just no chance
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that people can come to, you know, informed conclusions about media outlets and podcasts on their own.
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You can't be entrusted to decide for yourself what news outlets you like and what podcasts you like.
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You need NewsGuard to help you and guide you along the way. You need Jack Brewster there
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to take you by the hand and guide you. And to that end, Jack Brewster, who happens to be,
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of course, a former operative of the Democrat Party, provided a series of questions for me
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about my podcast and the content on my podcast. He's been monitoring it for a while now,
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it would appear. And he demanded that I reply to his questions so that he can rank my show and,
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of course, inevitably rank it poorly and get me censored on social media, which is the whole
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idea. Now, I'll get into NewsGuard's real mission and the full text of Jack Brewster's email in a
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second, but I'm not going to bury the lead here. Here's the precise question from my new friend Jack
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that truly is the single best paragraph I've ever read in my email inbox, which maybe isn't saying
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much, but it's true. It brought joy to my day. And so I want to spread that joy to you. So here it is,
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the totally earnest question from fact-checking savant, Jack Brewster. Jack wrote to me, quote,
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the August 24th, 2023 episode of the Matt Walsh show featured a bonus special segment in which
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Walsh stated, Michelle Obama is a man. I'm increasingly convinced that there's some
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validity out there. No, I really am. Look, some people have looked into this. Shapira interjected
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to say, for God's sake, Matt, you're the only one in America who knows what women,
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that women can't be men. Stop it. Walsh replied, I don't know. Look, and some information has come
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out about Barack Obama recently that also confirms what we were told was once a conspiracy theory.
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Shapiro interjected again to say, Barack Obama did like dudes. He did like dudes. That's a thing he
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wrote, which is a weird thing to write to a girlfriend, by the way. Walsh later asked,
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why are we dodging this question about Michelle Obama's gender? To which Klavan responded,
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yeah, Michelle is obviously a man. Shapiro replied, oh God, guys, please stop. She's not a man. She's
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a woman, a very bad woman, by the way. That was the email that he sent me. That was the question.
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Then Jack, smelling the Pulitzer, asks me the money question, quote, why did Walsh and Klavan claim
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that Michelle Obama is a man? Now, I'm not going to get into the various high quality sources I was
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relying on when I made my remarks, which were obviously serious in every possible respect.
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I'm not going to talk about how Michelle Obama conspicuously doesn't list her pronouns in her
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Twitter bio, even though most prominent Democrats, including AOC and Pete Buttigieg, are proudly doing
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so. I'm not going to talk about broad shoulders or deep voices or a weird lack of baby pictures or
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anything like that. I'm certainly not going to show you the footage of Ted Nugent's infamous
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discussion with Kyle Rittenhouse from back in April, where he outlined some of his own observations
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and the evidence that he has found that Michelle Obama is a man. I'm not going to show you any of
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that. I deeply hope that you don't look up that footage for yourself, which you can find on YouTube
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or Twitter. None of that is the point here. Instead, I'm going to do what NewsGuard desperately
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doesn't want me to do, which is to provide some context. And first of all, Jack at NewsGuard
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immediately gets a couple of obvious facts wrong. For one thing, I didn't make these comments about
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Michelle Obama on my show or a special edition of my show, which doesn't exist. I made the comments on
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Daily Wire backstage. So he got the show completely wrong. And that backstage took place on August 23rd,
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which was debate night, not August 24th, as the fact-checked guy claimed. So these are
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basic facts that this fact-checking, this well-funded fact-checking organization has already got
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wrong. And as for this discussion that he is pointing to and fact-checking, I figure maybe I
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should show you the relevant portion of that clip. Let's watch it.
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This was a little unexpected. I am the most popular game show host in America. This show we
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started on the Daily Wire YouTube channel. It is the yes or no game. We've sold a bazillion of these
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games. We sell out every single time. We now have the expansion pack. The expansion pack is
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the conspiracy theory pack. And the producers of this very show want answers from four of the cards
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on this game. Just your, listen, you don't, you're not being held to anything. Media Matters is going
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to clip it out anyway, but this is a safe space. If I say something about 9-11, I'll pretend I never
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said it. Hypothetically. Don't worry. Hypothetically. If that were to happen. Your polls will go up. These
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are, I did not write these cards. I take no responsibility for them. Just want to go round
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Robin a little bit here. This is a mean one. This is actually a mean one. I don't even want to say
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it. I mean, ask me the question, but I'll read it too. Michelle Obama is a man. Uh, can I take that
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one? Yeah. I am increasingly convincing. No, I really am. I've seen, look, some people have looked
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into this and, uh, I think especially who are the, Joan Rivers. She's, she looked into it and
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then, for God's sake, Matt, you're the only one in America who knows that women can't be men.
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Stop it. Well, but the question is, I don't know. Look, and we, and we, some, some information has
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come out about, about Obama recently that, uh, that, that, that also confirms what we were told
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was once a conspiracy theory. He did like dudes. He did like dudes. That is the thing that he wrote
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up to a girlfriend, which is a weird thing to write to a girlfriend, by the way. Yeah. A very weird
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thing. I can explain. Of course you can. Okay. So we're playing a game where you're supposed to
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answer these funny questions. It's not supposed to be an inquisition where everyone has to rigorously
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fact check and cross-reference all of their statements and provide citations. It's pretty
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obvious if you're watching that clip and you don't suffer from any debilitating disorder that affects
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your ability to perceive humor or sarcasm. I can only imagine what it must be like to have Jack
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Brewster over to your house for game nights. Like you're playing apples to apples or cards against
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humanity or something like that. And Jack is sitting in the corner by himself, sipping LaCroix,
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issuing fact checks. Uh, excuse me. I've rated your answer misleading. It lacks important context.
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I've also reported you to the FBI. I'm actually a bit disappointed that Jack didn't go further with
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his fact check though. For one thing, Michael Knowles begins this segment by stating that he's
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the most popular game show host in America. And that's obviously a statement in need of scrutiny.
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And then Knowles goes on to say that some dishonest hack from media matters is probably going to clip
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our responses to the game, take them out of context to pretend to take us literally when
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we're obviously just messing around on a boring debate night. Uh, Jack should have fact check
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them there, fact checked them there and pointed out that in fact, a dishonest hack from media
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matters did not take us out of context. Instead, a dishonest hack from news guard did. Now, to be
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fair, Jack raised a few other pointed questions too. For example, he writes during the September 14th,
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2023 episode, Walsh stated, there are no clinical trials or studies that demonstrate that it's
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safe or necessary in any way to give COVID shots to six month old children. Not a single one, not a
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single study. However, multiple studies, including this study in pediatrics and this study in the New
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England Journal of Medicine have shown that it's safe to give COVID-19 shots to children ages six
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months old. Should Walsh have noted such studies instead of making such a broad claim? Now, this is
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an example of spreading misinformation while claiming to combat it. Neither one of the studies that
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Brewster cites actually prove his assertion that the COVID shot is safe or necessary for six month
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old children. The first study from the journal pediatrics isn't really a study at all. It's a
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research brief. And here's what it says, quote, we may have underestimated or missed potential safety
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concerns if the biologically plausible risk interval for an outcome differed from our specified risk
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interval. The researchers say that their analysis is early and therefore has reduced statistical power.
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The second study from the New England Journal of Medicine also acknowledges that, quote,
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wider scale use of the vaccine in children after authorization may identify other less frequent or
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more serious adverse events and continued monitoring of safety after emergency use authorization is
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ongoing. So these are not, in fact, documents that prove that it's safe to give your six month old
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child a COVID vaccine. And they are tentative assessments of a very limited amount of data. And they
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certainly don't even come close to suggesting that the shot is necessary for these children. That's about
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the extent of NewsGuard's factual questions for me. The rest of Jack's email, which was quite extensive,
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does get even weirder, though, somehow. For example, he asks, can you comment on whether the podcast is
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dominated by one-sided opinion? Now, he wants to know the answer to that question because, quote,
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one of NewsGuard's criteria for rating a podcast seeks to determine whether a podcast is dominated by
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one-sided opinion. Then the email cites a bunch of examples of me providing my opinion without inviting
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someone on the show to argue with me. And, I mean, really, he didn't need to provide examples because
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that's literally every single show I sit here in front of a camera and give my opinion. Now, what's funny
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about this line of attack is that when other outlets have provided both sides of an issue, NewsGuard
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blames them for doing that. So it's a lose-lose proposition. A couple of years ago, Red State reported
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that NewsGuard berated them for publishing an article with the headline,
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Doctor Disagrees with the CDC slash NIH on COVID. Now, what was wrong with that article? According
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to NewsGuard, quote, the headline suggests that there are two opposing sides of a debate,
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the doctor and public health authorities, and that both positions are equally supported by evidence.
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This is not the case. So you're damned if you present both sides, and you're damned if you don't.
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The only solution they want is for you to parrot their side. If you don't do that,
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then they'll do what they're doing to me. They'll whine because I have too much opinion
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on my podcast, even though it is an opinion podcast. The whole show is my opinion. That is
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the genre of the show. It is like complaining about an editorial editorializing. Okay? It's like
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reading an editorial in the newspaper. It's like, there's too much editorializing going on in this
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editorial. It's like if I had a sports show and they criticize me for not talking enough about the
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budget deficit. Apparently, NewsGuard has decided that opinion shows simply shouldn't exist as a
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category, or at least not opinion shows that center around opinions like mine. Now, all of this is
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absurd and therefore funny, of course, but below the surface, it's a little less amusing. You may not
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have heard of this organization, but NewsGuard is in fact a powerful and influential organization,
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one that you are funding with your tax dollars. They recently received a massive grant from Biden's
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Department of Defense for nearly $750,000. As Michael Schellenberger testified before Congress
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earlier this year, quote, both the Global Disinformation Index and NewsGuard are US government
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funded entities who are working to drive advertisers' revenue away from disfavored publications
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and towards the ones they favor. This is totally inappropriate. Inappropriate, yes, but it's
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happening. Inappropriate, you know, to put it mildly. It's one of the reasons NewsGuard brought on
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Michael Hayden as an advisor. Hayden has said that unvaccinated Trump supporters should be sent to
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Afghanistan. He said that today's Republicans are the most violent ideological force he's ever seen in
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the world. He suggested that Senator Tuberville should be killed. He also lied to Congress about the CIA's
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torture program. None of that bothers NewsGuard because Hayden didn't make fun of Michelle Obama
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or anyone on the left. And NewsGuard's only job is to censor the political enemies of the Democratic
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Party. That is why the Democratic Party is funding them. Now, to be clear, it's not just the US
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government that's backing NewsGuard. One of NewsGuard's early investors was the Publicis Group.
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Well, who are they? Well, they have a subsidiary called Publicis Health Media, which works with the
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largest pharmaceutical companies on the planet, including Eli Lilly, AstraZeneca, Bayer, Novartis,
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and many others. And Publicis Health Media has already announced explicit partnerships with NewsGuard.
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Maybe you're starting to get the picture here. The government and Big Pharma have a very close ally
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in NewsGuard. And now, coincidentally enough, NewsGuard is going after conservatives who question
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the wisdom of giving the COVID shot to your six-month-old child. And NewsGuard lieutenants like
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Jack Brewster are active on Twitter haranguing Elon Musk for daring to suggest that Tony Fauci
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might have a funded gain-of-function research that made COVID deadlier.
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So they get funded by organizations and by interests, and then they go out and they
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enforce the interests of those organizations. That's the way it works. And not just targeting me.
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They've done the same thing to Breitbart, Revolver, The Federalist, Fox News, Red State, Life News,
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PragerU, The Daily Wire, broadly speaking, and various other publications. And they're being as
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transparently partisan about all this as you'd expect. As The Federalist reported, nearly every
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outlet that opted to ignore or discredit the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop
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maintains a near-perfect rating from NewsGuard's accuracy and credibility score. Politico, NPR,
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New York Times, maintained a favorable 100 out of 100 rating, which means that they are always,
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I guess, they are always honest, always. While CBS News scores a 95 out of 100. The New York Post,
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on the other hand, suffers a grade of 69.5 out of 100, and The Federalist, a 12.5 out of 100.
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NewsGuard also promotes pro-abortion resources and punishes pro-life sites, as you would expect.
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So if you lie to protect the Bidens, you're credible. If you point out the corruption of
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the Biden family, you are not credible. NewsGuard is becoming big now for a very specific reason,
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which is that the Missouri versus Biden case is pending before the Supreme Court. And that's a case
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that could punish the Biden administration for pressuring social media sites to censor
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conservatives. In anticipation of a bad ruling in that case, the Biden administration is outsourcing
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its censorship apparatus to cutouts like NewsGuard. And that's why all this matters.
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You know, it may seem like an organization like NewsGuard just exists to send annoying emails to
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people like me. And if that's all this is, then who cares, right? But it's not. They exist to suppress
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opinions that the ruling class disapproves of. They are the government's way of getting around the
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First Amendment by enlisting third parties to carry out their censorship campaign. So we are not looking
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at some corrupt, rogue, left-wing blog. NewsGuard is a core component of the left's evolving censorship
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apparatus. And already it's powerful. Its ratings have an effect on what you can see online. They help
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to determine what you can see, what you can access. Microsoft, the Defense Department, the World Health
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Organization, the State Department, all have affiliations with NewsGuard. Specifically,
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Microsoft's search engine Bing licenses NewsGuard's technology, and NewsGuard is pitching it to other
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companies as well. What you have to realize about this is that there are no GOP-funded equivalents
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to NewsGuard. There is no right-wing effort underway to smear leftists with fraudulent fact checks in
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order to censor them online. Nothing like NewsGuard or Media Matters or any of these organizations
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exists on the right. This is a fight they're winning because they have the field completely to
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themselves. And so we have to come up with an answer that goes beyond just mocking them.
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But in the meantime, I must admit, it is fun to mock them. And that's why I sent Jack Brewster a response
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to his emails informing him that I cannot answer his question about Michelle Obama being a man until he
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provides me with a definition of the word man. Brewster emailed back last night saying,
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Hi, Mr. Walsh, I understand what you're driving at, but my question about the Michelle Obama segment was
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not about the gender ideology debate. I was asking whether you or Mr. Klavan have any evidence to
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support the claim that Michelle Obama is or ever claimed to be a man. To that, I responded, quote,
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Hi, Jack, it's difficult to have any conversation about whether Michelle Obama is or isn't a man
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until we are sure what the word means. As someone who works for a fact-checking organization,
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I would certainly hope that you could provide a definition of this basic term. If you cannot define
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it, then will you provide a disclaimer in your report stipulating that you are unable to personally
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dispute my assertion that Michelle Obama is a man because you do not know what the term means in
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the first place? Thanks again. Now, Jack did not answer after that. He has been stumped, apparently.
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I guess we'll never know what a man is or whether Michelle Obama is one. And that is all very funny,
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but also disturbing when you consider how much power these people really have.
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We'll begin with NBC News, which reports the mayor of Nashville, Tennessee called Monday for
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an investigation after images reported to be the writings of a shooter who killed six people at
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the Covenant School in March were posted online. The three images of writings which were posted Monday
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by a conservative podcast and YouTube show host are said to be from the shooter. NBC News has not
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confirmed whether the documents are authentic. Audrey Hale was killed by police after having
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opened fire on March 27th at the private Christian school. The shooter killed three children and three
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adults. Nashville Mayor Freddie O'Connell said he directed Metro Nashville Law Director Wally Dietz to
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initiate an investigation into how these images could have been released. I am deeply concerned with the
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safety, security, and well-being of the Covenant families and all Nashvilleians who are grieving.
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O'Connell said in a statement. Podcast host Stephen Crowder posted the images online Monday. The
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writings and the images appear to have language about carrying out a shooting at a school and a date.
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And just skimming through this article, of course, I'm not seeing any quote of what those documents
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actually say. No surprise there. So NBC News doesn't mention that she talked about killing
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white people because of their white privilege and so on. On Monday, a spokesman for those parents,
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for the parents of the Covenant parents, called whoever posted these documents a viper and said
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the person released evidence that was gathered in our most vulnerable moment. You have now allowed the
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shooter who terrorized our family with bullets to be able to terrorize us with words from the grave,
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said the spokesperson Brent Leatherwood, whose three children were at the school and survived.
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Okay. A few things. First of all, the claim from the mayor that this somehow puts people's safety in
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jeopardy is total nonsense. They've been saying that from the beginning. And one of the reasons why
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they can't release the documents is that it would jeopardize people's safety. And he says that it
00:22:29.520
puts not only the families in jeopardy, but it puts all Nashvilleians. Safety in jeopardy. In what way?
00:22:36.460
How does it jeopardize anyone's safety? That was always nonsense. See, that's one of the many reasons
00:22:43.100
why we demand to see the documents is that the reasons they gave us for not releasing them were
00:22:48.860
obviously nonsense. So they're clearly lying. We talked about yesterday. One of the reasons they give us
00:22:55.720
is litigation. They say that we can't release it because of litigation. Well, the litigation is
00:22:59.800
over the fact that they're not releasing it. So if they release it, then the litigation goes away.
00:23:06.420
So that is such a bogus excuse, a total insult to our intelligence. You would have to be a moron to buy
00:23:13.260
that and, or at least deeply confused. And then on top of that, they say that, well, and this is another
00:23:20.480
thing they told us that it's, it had blueprints about how to carry out an attack and they don't want to
00:23:24.500
inspire copycats. If there's clearly, if there's something like that, I mean, there's really
00:23:30.880
something in there that, that, that could actually put someone's safety in jeopardy, some sort of like
00:23:37.460
how to manual for carrying out a shooting. Obviously you could redact that. You don't have to release
00:23:43.580
that part of it. I mean, they're the ones who tell us that there's a lot of documents, a lot of things
00:23:47.400
written, you know, well, if that's the case, then you, no one's saying that that specific portion
00:23:53.460
needs to be released, but you're not releasing any of it at all. And so that is why there are so many
00:24:00.440
questions. Now, as I say yesterday, I'm obviously extremely sympathetic to the parents who don't want
00:24:07.920
this stuff released. I understand why they don't. I understand their position. Uh, I'd probably feel
00:24:13.080
the same way if I was in their shoes. Um, they don't want to relive the nightmare. They don't
00:24:18.280
want to have this case back in the news. They don't want people talking about it. Um, they're
00:24:23.380
trying to pick up the pieces and find a way to keep moving. And so I get all of that as much as
00:24:28.940
anyone could possibly understand it when they're, when they haven't suffered such a tragedy. Um, and
00:24:34.200
you know, it doesn't help in their grieving process to have the killer's manifesto in the news a year
00:24:38.640
later. So all of that is, I totally understand, but this is why, again, they should have put this
00:24:45.380
information out months ago when it first happened. So tell the truth right away. And then there is no
00:24:51.880
reliving of the trauma. I mean, if you go through something like this, unfortunately going to relive
00:24:55.980
it all the time in a certain way, but, but there wouldn't be this, there'd be no need to drudge it up
00:25:02.760
in the news in November when the shooting happened in March. If they had just been honest right away,
00:25:10.200
the fault here lies with the officials, with the authorities who chose not to tell the truth from
00:25:15.300
the get-go. Um, and here's the other point too, that we feel great sympathy for the families of the
00:25:23.900
victims. Our hearts break for them. Also public policy, policy, and these kinds of decisions
00:25:31.100
have to be made with the entire public in mind. You know, it's, it's like, it's similar to when you
00:25:39.240
have families of victims calling for gun control, you know, and, and, uh, when that happens as it does
00:25:45.200
sometimes, I understand why they're saying it. I understand emotionally. I don't agree. You know, I don't
00:25:51.100
agree with calling for gun control, but I, but I, I understand emotionally why they would feel that way
00:25:59.080
at the same time. However, we don't make decisions about basic legal rights based entirely on what
00:26:07.180
devastated and distraught families, you know, are, are saying about it. We listen to them and we feel for
00:26:14.520
them. Um, and basic principles remain, you know, the second amendment is a basic principle. Um, the need
00:26:25.500
for transparency is a basic principle. And so while we understand emotionally and we can, uh, empathize
00:26:36.820
with how people feel about it, basic principle is that there needs to be transparency when something
00:26:46.140
like this happens. Like it's just not acceptable. It is just not acceptable for some crime like this
00:26:55.060
to be carried out. And then you tell us that, oh yeah, well they, this person explained why they did
00:26:59.720
it, but we're not going to tell you. No, no, no. Unacceptable. That is just, it's not, it's not a
00:27:06.440
tenable situation. You have no right to do that. And besides, this is not a statement about the
00:27:14.200
families. I'm not saying we should release it because I disagree with the families. It's a
00:27:17.280
statement about the government, about the FBI, the officials who've, you know, been the ones ultimately
00:27:23.060
who make the decision not to release the documents. The families feel how they feel about it,
00:27:27.600
but they're not the, they don't have the power to determine what happens with these documents on
00:27:32.000
their own, right? This, this is, this is a determination that ultimately is made by government
00:27:36.680
officials. And they say those government officials do. They say their reason is because they're
00:27:43.120
respecting the families and because of litigation and because of safety. Well, we know the litigation
00:27:52.100
excuse, the safety excuse. We know that's bogus. Do you believe that they actually give a damn about
00:27:59.120
those families or about any families? No, the FBI, they know what's in those documents. You think
00:28:05.860
they care about anybody? No, I don't trust them. So when we're told that the writings won't be released,
00:28:13.180
we're also being told that we should trust the judgment of these officials who are the ones who make
00:28:18.160
that call. And I don't trust them. And I have no reason to, and you have no reason to, and you
00:28:24.720
don't trust them either. Which is why you always end up back in a position where it's not up to you to
00:28:34.320
decide. It's not up to you. Maybe you release the documents ultimately, and people look at it and
00:28:40.160
they say, yeah, you know, there's not, you can't make much out of this. Not much to make of this.
00:28:45.980
It's just a bunch of incoherent, contradictory ramblings. Maybe that's the case. And if it's the
00:28:51.720
case, then we know, right? But don't tell me I have to take their word for it. Don't tell me I
00:28:59.220
have to take the FBI's word for it. Don't tell me that. That is not acceptable. Nobody should accept
00:29:04.800
that. All right. Daily Wire has this report. A school district in New Jersey partnered with a
00:29:11.540
sex education group that has offered to provide schools with so-called gender affirming kits that
00:29:16.400
could include tucking underwear, chest binders, and devices allowing girls to pee standing up.
00:29:23.840
New documents and videos obtained by Parents Defending Education and first shared with the Daily Wire show
00:29:29.580
evidence of the Princeton Public Schools District's partnership with High Tops, which is a
00:29:34.760
leftist sex education nonprofit. The partnership, which the district has previously said it would
00:29:40.560
reconsider, was first revealed by Project Veritas back in September. High Tops, based in Princeton,
00:29:46.780
describes itself as an organization dedicated to inclusive and youth-informed sex education
00:29:51.120
and LGBTQ plus support for young people throughout New Jersey. Correspondents obtained by PDE show
00:29:58.780
High Tops sending lesson plans and promotional flyers to PPS.
00:30:02.580
PPS. A lot of acronyms going on here. PPS is the school district. One of the flyers sent to PPS from
00:30:08.480
High Tops was promoting a gender affirming kit. The kit included things like chest binders, packing tape,
00:30:15.160
tucking underwear, packers, chest forms, and stand-to-pee devices.
00:30:19.680
This is what they're sending to a school district. Items that are, at the very least, promoting
00:30:28.100
this stuff. Reading now from the flyer. The High Tops gender affirming kit is a groundbreaking
00:30:33.540
resource designed to support transgender, non-binary, and gender expansive students
00:30:37.340
while promoting inclusivity within your school community. The kit is a comprehensive package that
00:30:42.140
equips administrators, teachers, school counselors, and nurses with the knowledge and tools they need to
00:30:47.060
empower students on their gender journey. Their gender journey. That's what sex education is now.
00:30:58.960
Daily Wire asked PPS about the extent to which the manuals from High Top were used in classes
00:31:04.860
throughout the district. Eric Sanze, director of outreach at PDE, said in a statement to the Daily Wire,
00:31:11.680
these trainings are a child safeguarding nightmare. Not only do they tell teachers to ask for the gender
00:31:17.500
pronouns of every student, but they also instruct teachers to ask students how they want to be
00:31:21.780
referred to in front of their parents. It's an explicit invitation to keep secrets from parents.
00:31:28.360
Yeah, that's, so did you get that there? So they're being asked, not being asked that in front of the
00:31:34.540
parents, just to be clear, they're asking the kids, what do you want us to call you in front of your parents?
00:31:41.680
So that it's a way of saying, yeah, if you want, hey, if you want to, the teacher is saying to the
00:31:49.720
student, if you want to keep a secret from your parents, you know, but we can do that. Inviting them
00:31:55.720
to keep these secrets. And this is all about guiding them again in their gender journey. Now, none of this
00:32:06.620
is surprising. Uh, it should not be surprising to you. And I'm saying that not just because of the
00:32:13.860
left's recent embrace of this kind of insanity, going on gender journeys, like this was not,
00:32:22.420
nobody was using phrases like this. This was, even when I was in high school, when I was in grades,
00:32:27.700
it was not all, it was a while ago, but it wasn't all that long ago. Um,
00:32:31.520
the phrase gender journey would have meant nothing. Like nobody would have had any idea
00:32:37.160
what you're talking about. And there were no, you know, nobody was getting chest binders. Nobody
00:32:42.400
was getting packing tape. Uh, nobody was getting, um, did the stand to pee device. Like none of that
00:32:49.440
existed. Uh, certainly not, it was not being promoted on any kind of mainstream level.
00:32:54.740
And, and, and yet, and yet everybody, and everybody was fine. Like there were no kids
00:33:01.620
when I was in school that were, uh, in, in great pain because they weren't able to obtain a chest
00:33:12.140
binder or a stand to pee device. Right. And if you go farther back than that, if you go to my
00:33:19.860
parents' generation or before that, all throughout, it's, there's, there was not needed. Nobody needed
00:33:25.080
it. Nobody was talking about it. And yet all of a sudden now we're told that there are all these
00:33:31.580
kids that this, this is desperately need. It's not just, it's, they need it. If they don't get it,
00:33:36.220
then, then it may have catastrophic, fatal implications. All of that is nonsense, of course.
00:33:43.580
But what we have to always keep in mind, when you see this kind of insanity in the
00:33:49.760
sex education programs is that, yeah, some of this, this is a, this is the most recent
00:33:55.160
manifestation, but, um, it's also what sex education is fundamentally and has always been
00:34:03.240
designed to be. Um, government school, sex education, you've heard on this show. So you,
00:34:12.340
if you listen to the show, you know where that traces back to, that goes back to Alfred Kinsey,
00:34:15.800
the, you know, these sexologists and sex researchers and, and, and these psychotherapy
00:34:21.460
quacks from the mid 20th century. And before that, that's where the whole idea of comprehensive
00:34:26.020
sex education comes from. It comes from them. And, um, it was always an explicit agenda to
00:34:35.320
sexualize children from a young age. That's why these educate, that's why these, uh, so-called
00:34:40.020
sex education programs exist. Uh, and it's why they should not exist. You know, so we should
00:34:47.940
not, yes, we, we rightly, uh, react with disgust at these, like, especially egregious examples
00:34:57.000
of, uh, the sexualization of, of children happening in schools. But our response should not be, no,
00:35:05.360
we need to, you know, we need to come up with a more reasonable and more appropriate
00:35:09.600
sex education curriculum. That should not be our response. And our response should also not be,
00:35:16.320
uh, you know, we need a sexual education program that, that, that emphasizes abstinence.
00:35:21.260
These are all false choices. Our response should be that there, none of this belongs in the schools
00:35:27.780
whatsoever. This entire subject does not belong in school. It is crazy that this is happening at all.
00:35:33.620
This is not what the schools exist for. Um, if, if the topic of reproduction
00:35:43.080
is going to come up, comes up in science class, comes up, you know, some of this will come up if
00:35:50.800
you're talking science, biology, anatomy, but to have a separate course set aside to talk about
00:35:59.120
sexuality with the kids that should not exist. There is no version of that conversation that
00:36:07.580
will ever be appropriate for a strange adult to have with a child. There is no version of that
00:36:14.240
conversation about sexuality that will ever be appropriate for some teacher to have with a 10
00:36:19.980
year old that there, that, uh, that, that, you know, it's just one kid in a, in a class.
00:36:28.720
It's, it will never be appropriate. And that, and that's what we have to realize that that,
00:36:32.680
and that should be our response to this. All right. Staying with a madness in the public school
00:36:38.260
system, CBS news reports on efforts to make math more equitable. Let's watch this.
00:36:44.440
Pittsburgh public schools, hiring a consultant to teach a new method of instructing kids. It's
00:36:50.920
intended to be anti-racist. And what some find curious is that the subject involved
00:36:55.340
is math. KDK lead investigator, Andy Sheehan talked with the district leader who recommended it.
00:37:02.060
No matter how math is taught, one plus one will always equal two. But Pittsburgh public schools
00:37:08.080
is now offering what he calls an anti-racist approach, saying it is trying to address racial
00:37:14.880
inequity in math classes. We think of math as, you know, addition, subtraction, multiplication,
00:37:21.840
sort of an objective reality. How can math be racist? We're talking about really a mindset,
00:37:27.760
and it's an approach. So whether we use the term anti-racist or we talk about, um, racial equity,
00:37:34.160
it's, it's, it's the same. Last week, the school board approved a $50,000 contract to the consulting
00:37:40.240
group Quetzel to provide workshops for district math teachers to more fully engaged students of color
00:37:46.560
in learning math and hopefully improve performance. According to the most recent test scores,
00:37:52.320
11.6 percent of the district's African-American grade students scored proficient in math compared
00:37:59.440
to 47.5 percent of white students. The district has long sought to close that gap and says it will now
00:38:07.600
be taking this approach. It's one thing to say that, you know, African-American students in the,
00:38:13.440
in the district are underperforming. It's another thing to say that the instruction by math teachers
00:38:19.200
is a racist. We don't use, um, any language to call any approach racist, but what we do is we talk about
00:38:27.760
approaches that are anti-racist. Okay. Pause there for a second. So you notice what these,
00:38:32.400
they can just never answer anything directly, um, on the left. No, it's, it's not just what is a
00:38:40.320
woman or what is a man? As we discovered with our friend Jack Brewster, uh, it's any question at all,
00:38:45.600
any, any, any question relating to their, uh, any, any item on their agenda, they can never answer it
00:38:54.440
directly, never answer a direct question. They refuse to answer direct questions. Um, and it's
00:38:59.400
not because they don't have an answer in mind. It's not because they don't know the answer.
00:39:04.120
It's because they realize that fundamentally their agenda is, uh, is absurd and insane and extreme.
00:39:12.520
And so they can't answer it directly. So clearly what the whole idea here is that is that math
00:39:19.560
education is racist. And so it needs to be anti-racist. And then when he's asked directly,
00:39:24.680
well, how exactly is, could math education be racist? Well, we're not saying it's racist,
00:39:31.640
but we're saying it should be anti-racist. Well, first of all, it is kind of what you put,
00:39:36.440
but earlier in the discussion, he did indicate that it's racist. And now he's saying it's,
00:39:40.360
well, it's not racist, but it needs to be anti-racist. So, but what's the opposite of
00:39:43.080
anti-racist? So it's not anti, is it right now it is not anti-racist. So if it's not anti-racist,
00:39:47.480
does that mean that it's racist? Like just explain it in more detail. And he can't do that.
00:39:53.720
Let's keep watching a little bit of this. To assistant superintendent,
00:39:56.680
Dr. Sean McNeil, this means addressing historic inequities in educating students by exposing them
00:40:03.480
to black professionals in STEM fields to tell students of the African American legacy in mathematics.
00:40:10.200
emphasizing its practical applications in a hands-on, welcoming way. And McNeil says the
00:40:16.760
emphasis is on concepts and reasoning rather than putting importance on getting the answer right.
00:40:22.760
Is this not sort of dumbing down the curriculum, the math curriculum to say, hey, uh, you know.
00:40:30.360
All right. You know, every time I see stories like this,
00:40:34.280
I have a few reactions. I mean, my first reaction is, is, is that this is crazy. Uh,
00:40:40.840
but then I always have, there's a little, I have to admit, I'll admit a little tinge of envy that I
00:40:46.280
feel with every time I hear about something like this, a little tinge of envy, um, that they didn't
00:40:52.760
have policies like this in place when I was in school. I would have loved if, uh, when I was taking
00:40:58.520
math classes and performing very poorly in them, I would have loved if they had a policy that,
00:41:04.360
well, we're not really emphasizing getting the answer right. I would have, I would have really
00:41:08.200
appreciated that when I was in school, you know, 25 years ago, I could have really used that instead
00:41:13.480
of, it would have helped. Who knows where I'd be today? I mean, it would have helped my self-esteem
00:41:18.200
tremendously rather than getting all those D's and E's on math, uh, on, on math tests.
00:41:22.680
If they could have said, look, uh, you didn't get it. Yeah. There were 50 questions on this math
00:41:28.200
test. You got precisely none of them correct. Uh, but we're not, you know, this is not, this is not
00:41:33.000
about getting them right or wrong. That's not what this is about. At the very least, I wish I'd thought
00:41:38.040
of this myself as a, an excuse that I could have presented to my own parents when I came home with the
00:41:45.640
report card and said, look, I don't want you to think too much about whether the answers are right or
00:41:50.000
wrong. It's not about right or wrong. You know, it's not about, it's not about grades, mom and dad.
00:41:56.180
It's about a journey. It's what it is. It's about, it's, you know, I'm on the educational journey and
00:42:00.660
I'm, and I'm really, and I feel good about it. I don't know. I don't know if that would have
00:42:04.420
resonated with them, but what you have to, the real point with this is that aside from just mocking it
00:42:10.720
as we should, um, that mathematics is sort of like the last, the last stronghold. If they can do this
00:42:22.520
with math, then they can do it with anything. If you could take mathematics and, and, and, and start
00:42:30.060
claiming that it's racist and that we have to fundamentally change our approach to it. We have to make,
00:42:35.540
if, if, if, if, if we are at the point of making math equitable, then, uh, then that, that's it.
00:42:45.320
That's the last one. Like that math, mathematics, you would think is as objective of a subject as
00:42:52.780
there can possibly be like two plus two equals four. It just does. There's, there's no way around it.
00:43:01.540
Um, and yet even with mathematics now they're doing it, um, because ultimately we, we understand that
00:43:09.760
this is more than anything, uh, a war on truth, a war on objective truth. And that includes two plus
00:43:16.880
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gcu.edu. Okay. So some comments here disagreeing with my, uh, opinion about DoorDash and tipping,
00:44:13.580
uh, habining says, I always tip $10 plus food delivery is a luxury, not a necessity. $10 plus on
00:44:24.600
10 plus on top of the service fees and the taxes you're already paying, but 10, you throw $10 into it.
00:44:33.740
Um, Kai Bowron says on the DoorDash thing, is it not preferable to be informed as the customer
00:44:38.540
about how the system works? Like you can not like it, but if that's the case, don't use the service
00:44:43.020
and then maybe it will change, but using it and not tipping is just driving out the few good drivers.
00:44:49.600
and Simon says, Matt, you're completely wrong about DoorDash. The reason customers have to tip
00:44:56.620
beforehand is because it's a delivery service and there's often no contact with the customer and
00:45:00.080
therefore no opportunity to leave a tip in person. If the service was bad, you can leave a complaint and
00:45:04.800
get refunded. Also drivers like myself are incentivized to accept orders that are high paying,
00:45:09.180
meaning a good tip. DoorDash pays us like crap so often. The only reason, uh, an order is worth
00:45:15.740
accepting is because of the tip. It isn't blackmail. It's DoorDash recognizing incentive structures of
00:45:20.300
their employees. No tip means it'll be passed over by drivers multiple times in favor of orders with
00:45:24.800
tips. One final thought, this is not forced charity. I am literally going to the restaurant,
00:45:28.840
getting your food for you and delivering it. Um, yeah. And, and my point is that I think anyone
00:45:36.980
who does a job should be paid for it. The question is who should pay? This is what the, your employer
00:45:43.640
should be paying you for the service. And with something like DoorDash, if I am already paying
00:45:49.580
for the service and then you say, in addition, you need to pay more for the employee who is rendering
00:45:56.660
the service that, that is a, that is a, a crazy system and it just becomes financially untenable
00:46:05.360
for people. Um, you know, it, it, it gets to the point where something like DoorDash, where
00:46:12.060
unless you're well off, it's like, you can't even afford, it's not something you can afford to do
00:46:16.740
very often because the premium you're paying is insane. Um, and what are we going to do about that
00:46:25.400
premium? I mean, like, obviously you, you have to pay for the service and nobody's saying that
00:46:29.580
someone should go pick up the food and for free. And the only thing you pay for is the food,
00:46:33.140
but here it's, it's these, the, the service on top of the employee rendering it, that's the issue.
00:46:41.100
And also, um, this is not how the incentive structure, I understand this is, this is the
00:46:46.100
incentive structure they've come up with supposedly where you get the tip ahead of time and then
00:46:52.460
people can decide whether they want to take your order or not, but that's not even an incentive.
00:46:57.160
There's no incentive there. You already have the money. Incentive is supposed to be, if, if
00:47:04.240
after the fact, it'd be very easy, but you're acting like it's impossible to leave them. There'd
00:47:08.760
be, how could you possibly tip someone? You know, most of the tips are, uh, uh, there's no context.
00:47:13.840
So how you couldn't tip in person. Nobody's saying that it would be very easy to have a system
00:47:17.960
where you deliver the food person receives it. Then something pops up on their phone and says,
00:47:24.960
would you like to leave a tip for the driver? Right? Uh, so, so you could be that way where
00:47:31.320
you tip after the fact. That's all I have done these jobs. Okay. I've did pizza delivery before
00:47:38.040
smartphones existed and that's the way it worked. You got tipped after the fact. And now with
00:47:45.320
smartphones, it'd be very easy to do in a cashless world. Now I know the reason you wouldn't want
00:47:51.900
that is because, well, it makes it, you know, then it's easier for people to not tip, but that's,
00:47:55.400
that's the way tip's supposed to work. You know, you work harder, you get the food there faster,
00:48:00.380
uh, you do everything because you want to get a better tip. That's, that's how the incentive
00:48:06.720
structure is supposed to work. This is not an incentive structure right now. Um, it is, it is a
00:48:13.240
blackmail system. It is, it's emotional manipulation. And like, and as I said, you're
00:48:17.460
responding only, these comments are only responding to the DoorDash scenario, but there's also all the
00:48:21.560
other scenarios like at the coffee shop, for example, where there's no incident, you know,
00:48:25.220
they, they don't even, they just flip the iPad over. You leave the tip that, that has no bearing
00:48:31.700
on what happens after that. There's no incentive at all. Um, so at, at a minimum, I guess this is where
00:48:40.220
I stand on this. If we're going to have this explosion of tipping where everybody wants a tip
00:48:45.780
now at a minimum, if we're going to do that, the fairest way to do it and the way that you should
00:48:52.640
do it, if you don't want to alienate your customers and ha and end up in a situation where fewer people
00:48:57.720
are leaving tips because they're so sick of it. And that's where we're at now. And I know if you work
00:49:01.980
one of these jobs, you might, you know, you might not like that. It may not be, you may wish that
00:49:07.020
wasn't the case, but I'm just telling you, okay, don't shoot the messenger on this. I'm telling
00:49:10.740
you people aren't freaking fed up with it because they're just getting harangued everywhere now for
00:49:17.800
a tip and people are not made of money and they just want to go in and they're already paying for
00:49:23.160
the stuff. And they just want that to cover what they're, that should cover it. If the, if,
00:49:29.480
if a company is not paying you enough, it's like, that should be something you take up with the
00:49:33.140
company. Um, but if we're going to do this and if you, if you don't want to alienate all the
00:49:41.200
customers and make them sick to death of it, then it needs to be after the fact tipping. It needs to
00:49:47.000
be tipping at, you know, as a reward for service. And yeah, you're going to get less tips in that case.
00:49:53.780
Then you got to work harder for them. That's the way it's supposed to go.
00:49:56.400
Or you can just piss everybody off. And then you've got more and more people throwing up their
00:50:02.320
hands and saying, I'm just not tipping anymore. It's too much. It's out of hand. So those are your
00:50:07.460
choices. Let's get to the daily cancellation. Since the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the left has
00:50:19.760
lost their minds. Leftism is their religion and abortion is their official sacrament. Meanwhile,
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pro-life efforts, which are now more important than ever, are booming. Despite the narrative,
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00:50:39.300
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40 Days for Life holds peaceful vigils outside abortion facilities in an effort to change hearts and
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I guess I'll get. All right. The rest of the Matt Walsh show continues now.
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Yesterday was election day in a few states around the country. It was not a good day for
00:53:04.300
Republicans. This should come as no surprises. Republicans haven't had a good day on election
00:53:07.640
day since 2018. It's been loss after loss after loss since then. Last night, Republicans lost the
00:53:14.440
governor's race in Kentucky. They lost the Statehouse of Virginia, and the most troubling
00:53:17.860
result of all, they lost on a ballot initiative in Ohio that has now enshrined child sacrifice as a
00:53:23.860
constitutional right. Reading from the Daily Wire, quote, voters in Ohio voted Tuesday to approve a
00:53:28.280
ballot initiative that places a right to an abortion into the state's constitution. Pro-life advocates
00:53:31.880
say the measure will effectively make abortion legal at any point in pregnancy. The initiative brought
00:53:37.440
in millions in spending, with more than $18 million being spent in favor of the pro-abortion
00:53:41.440
initiative, with just $7 million being spent in opposition since August 9th, according to NBC
00:53:47.320
News. The effort to put abortion into the state constitution was backed by the Ohio Democratic
00:53:51.900
Party, the ACLU of Ohio, Planned Parenthood, and Ohio's Women's Alliance. Martin Haskell,
00:53:58.000
a proponent of partial birth abortion, gave $100,000 to Ohio Physicians for Reproductive Rights,
00:54:04.240
a political action committee that opposed a Republican-backed measure that would have made it more
00:54:08.060
difficult to amend the state constitution as advocated for passage of issue one. Prominent
00:54:12.720
Ohio Republicans like Governor Mike DeWine and Senator J.D. Vance spoke out against enshrining
00:54:17.340
abortion into the state's constitution, calling the measure extreme. Now, this victory for baby
00:54:21.100
murder was, of course, cause for celebration in the media and among child sacrifice enthusiasts across
00:54:26.120
the nation. In Ohio, they applauded and cheered and embraced with tears of joy in their eyes.
00:54:32.000
Watch. Abortion is healthcare. And abortion access is the law of the land in Ohio. Tonight,
00:54:45.700
Ohioans United for Reproductive Rights passed issue one and put Ohioans back in charge of their
00:54:51.900
decisions about pregnancy and abortion. Together, we successfully enshrined the right to reproductive
00:54:58.700
freedom into the Ohio Constitution. Just imagine reacting that way to the news that children in
00:55:06.480
the womb just lost all of their human rights. Because that's what this constitutional amendment
00:55:11.620
does. It says that children in the womb have no rights at all. If you are not yourself a bloodthirsty
00:55:20.260
sociopath, it is impossible to fully imagine reacting this way. Which is why, if you're like me,
00:55:26.020
when you see them joyously celebrating the mass slaughter of children, you become more resolved
00:55:30.860
than ever to fight and defeat these people. But if you're like many milquetoast Republicans,
00:55:35.720
you become more resolved than ever to cower and compromise and give these people whatever they
00:55:40.260
want in hopes that they will have mercy on you. And that has essentially been the analysis from a
00:55:44.900
great many alleged conservatives since last night and before that. They have determined that not only
00:55:50.260
was the result in Ohio an indictment of the pro-life message, but that the other results were also
00:55:54.340
indictments of the pro-life message. In fact, these Republicans insist that every Republican defeat
00:55:58.840
in every recent election is because of abortion. We must abandon the issue or compromise significantly
00:56:04.460
on it in order to have any chance of winning, they say. According to this conventional right-wing
00:56:09.040
wisdom, the overturning of Roe in the Supreme Court was not a great victory for human rights,
00:56:13.260
but was in fact a political disaster that is solely to blame for all of the losing the Republicans
00:56:18.300
have been doing. The fact that this Republican track record of losing stretches back before Dobbs,
00:56:24.480
the fact that they have been getting wiped out since before the Supreme Court issued any decision
00:56:29.280
on this topic, has apparently not occurred to these people. Or it has, but they find it convenient
00:56:33.340
to blame pro-lifers anyway. If you turn on Fox News last night, and I'm not sure why you would ever
00:56:37.640
want to do such a thing, you would have heard a lot of this kind of capitulating and blame shifting.
00:56:44.120
Here's just a short taste of it. Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans
00:56:50.200
don't want abortion legal under any circumstances. And I go back to Pennsylvania, 2022, the Republican
00:56:58.420
candidate for governor, if I remember correctly, no exceptions for rape, incest of the mother's life,
00:57:04.140
and lost to a non-incumbent gubernatorial candidate, Democratic candidate, by a margin that was not seen
00:57:13.680
since the 1940s. So I have to believe that as an indication that the women in America, suburban moms
00:57:22.180
want it probably legal and rare and probably earlier than, you know, at the point of viability.
00:57:29.420
How do they stop bumbling on abortion? What's the answer?
00:57:33.440
Well, number one, well, the Republicans have to clear up this issue across these states with clear lines,
00:57:39.860
like a 15 to 20 week abortion ban with exceptions for life, incest and rape, and make it clear.
00:57:48.560
You look at states where that is set in stone and we don't have these problems. We don't have these
00:57:54.380
problems in Florida. We don't have these problems in Georgia. We don't have these problems in North
00:57:57.840
Carolina. And part of that is, is because of that particular issue.
00:58:01.360
So that's Sean Hannity and Rince Priebus talking about how Republicans can start winning. Now you
00:58:08.220
may ask yourself, what in God's name do these two know about winning? What wins do they have under
00:58:14.040
their belt? In what way has either of them ever in their entire careers helped conservatism win
00:58:19.840
anything? Serious question. What have they ever done? What victory have they ever achieved?
00:58:25.260
What ideological battles have they fought and won in their lives? What ideological battles have they
00:58:31.180
fought at all? Why the hell would anyone come to them for insight on this issue or any other?
00:58:37.640
These are all very good questions, but unfortunately they, they are not alone. Republicans are losing
00:58:42.780
because of the abortion issue. The issue is unwinnable. Pro-lifers are screwing everything up
00:58:48.640
and we must come out and endorse legalized abortion in order to win. That is the message
00:58:53.120
from, from many. I mean, you heard Hannity say it. Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.
00:59:00.740
That's what he said. He's literally repeating pro-abortion talking points from the nineties.
00:59:05.020
He's a 1990s Clinton era Democrat, which is not exactly breaking news, I suppose. But just to be
00:59:10.600
clear, if you are a supposed conservative now saying that we should embrace legalized abortion,
00:59:14.680
that safe, legal, and rare should be our mantra, then you are, make no mistake, advocating for a full
00:59:20.080
scale surrender on one of the most pivotal fundamental issues of our time. You're free to
00:59:25.920
take that position, but please, for the love of God, don't pretend to be a fighter if you do. You're
00:59:30.700
waving the white flag. You're doing the thing the left never does, and Republicans always do.
00:59:36.240
But before you hoist that flag, let me offer a few thoughts, a few counter arguments to the
00:59:40.480
Sean Hannity's of the world. First of all, you can blame pro-lifers for the, uh, for the Republican
00:59:46.560
Party's string of electoral defeats, or again, especially given that this string of defeats began
00:59:52.260
before Dobbs, you can consider instead the possibility that Republicans by and large have
00:59:57.560
been running bad candidates and bad campaigns. It's especially worth considering given that many
01:00:02.620
of the Republican losers over the past few years have not exactly been pro-life hardliners. In plenty
01:00:07.080
of cases, they've been essentially pro-abortion. Dr. Oz lost in Pennsylvania. I mean, we heard,
01:00:13.340
we heard, uh, Hannity blamed the, the loss of the, in the governor, governor race, uh, because
01:00:19.320
supposedly the person was a hardline pro-lifer. Dr. Oz liberal on the issue in Pennsylvania,
01:00:26.620
and he lost. So how does that work with your equation, Sean? Second, the claim that conservatives
01:00:33.080
should moderate on abortion is not some brilliant new insight. Okay. I love all these people acting
01:00:38.280
like they just came up with this. You know, I've just been thinking about it. And I think that this,
01:00:41.320
this is not some bold political innovation. This is what the Republican establishment has been
01:00:45.480
saying for my entire life, since I was born and before the Republican establishment has insisted
01:00:51.500
that, that the only way to win is to go soft on abortion, compromise, hide from the issue,
01:00:57.600
undersell it. This has been the conventional milk toast Republican wisdom forever. Does it appear to
01:01:05.580
have been effective? Does it have an actual track record of success? Ask yourself that. The
01:01:10.860
Republican establishment establishment has been losing and scapegoating social conservatives
01:01:16.300
forever. They have been blaming us for their, their failures since always. This is nothing new.
01:01:25.020
Why would you buy into it now? The truth is that social conservatives are the only ones on the right
01:01:31.420
who have been doing anything or winning anything recently. Not only are we not to blame for Republican
01:01:37.880
losses, but we are the only ones who can claim any wins in the last few years, especially who else has
01:01:43.960
done anything? Anybody? Hardcore social conservatives know how to fight the culture war. In fact, we're
01:01:50.180
the only ones on the right who do. Third, this is most important. Before you tell me that the pro-life
01:01:58.760
message is a political loser, answer me this. How many Republican candidates fought back hard
01:02:05.520
and effectively on this issue, actively went after the left, ran ads attacking their opponents for
01:02:12.220
supporting the dismemberment of fully developed infants, which nearly every Democrat does, and
01:02:17.420
actually countered the left's pro-abortion narrative with a strong and affirmative pro-life narrative?
01:02:23.740
How many did that? See, this is the problem. The pro-life message is being blamed in races where the
01:02:29.840
pro-life message was never even articulated. It's being blamed for losing when there was never any
01:02:36.380
fight. Pro-boards in Ohio outspent the other side nearly three to one since August. And that's
01:02:43.900
emblematic of the situation across the country. Our side is, you know, pro-lifers are fighting.
01:02:53.840
Republicans are not putting up a fight. So that doesn't mean we can't win, but it does mean we
01:03:00.880
won't win if we don't even try. Consider this. Has any Republican anywhere run an ad saying,
01:03:09.980
essentially, here's what happens in a third trimester abortion. My opponent supports this.
01:03:16.420
This is the most basic strategy, and I'm not aware of anyone who's even attempted it. Now,
01:03:22.000
I'm not saying that they should show an abortion in an ad because nobody would run it if they do,
01:03:26.320
and you need people to run it, but they can describe what the procedure involves, okay?
01:03:32.020
There's a way to get this message across, and people don't know this, okay? A lot of people
01:03:37.840
don't know this. They don't really know what they're talking about when it comes to this issue.
01:03:41.300
They don't know what this issue is. They don't understand. And so has there been anyone who's
01:03:45.200
run an ad saying, look, here's what this is. Here's what this guy over here is running against me.
01:03:49.920
He supports this. And so if you agree with him, then vote for him. You know what? If you agree
01:03:55.320
with him on that, I don't even want your vote. But if you're a decent person, then I think you
01:04:02.320
know what you need to do. The point is to go on offense, to flip the script, to flip the conversation,
01:04:09.100
focus it on the horrors and barbarity of abortion and the abortion industry. This has not really been
01:04:14.140
done. It has not really been attempted. Most of the losing candidates have not done this.
01:04:18.880
They have hid from the issue instead of going on offense, which is, of course, the Republican
01:04:22.720
specialty. You know, Democrats want to spend their entire time talking about the hard cases,
01:04:28.960
rape, incest, life of the mother, the cases that account for fewer than 1% of all abortions.
01:04:34.700
They focus the whole conversation on that. Republicans allow themselves to get baited into focusing the
01:04:43.200
conversation there where Democrats want to focus it. Rarely have they responded by saying,
01:04:49.400
we're not going to talk about the 1% of cases until you answer some questions about the 99%.
01:04:55.180
Here's what abortion is. Here's why 99% of abortions are performed. Here's what happens
01:05:01.820
in most of these abortions. Here's what happens in a third trimester abortion.
01:05:06.000
You need to answer for that before we talk about anything else. We're not going to even talk about
01:05:12.540
the 1% until you talk about the 99%. That should be the mantra, not safe, legal, and rare.
01:05:22.320
No, the mantra is we're not going to let you people dictate this conversation.
01:05:25.400
We're not going to let you hide from the difficult questions that you need to answer.
01:05:28.820
Now, very few Republicans have had the balls or wherewithal or intelligence to respond that way,
01:05:37.220
and so they lose. Now, the truth is, for me, I wouldn't compromise on abortion,
01:05:44.120
even if it really did mean losing every election from now to kingdom come. To accept child murder
01:05:49.660
is to forfeit your soul. If we are really a country, if it is true that we are now a country
01:05:54.780
where child murder is so fundamentally popular that it's impossible to win by opposing it,
01:06:01.980
then we are not a country worth saving anymore. Then who cares about this country? Why are we even
01:06:08.120
trying to save it? You're telling me that if that's the country that's fundamentally grounded
01:06:14.700
in the slaughter of children, where that's as popular as apple pie, and that's a country we're
01:06:22.720
frightened for? No, we deserve whatever destruction is coming our way in that case.
01:06:28.960
I will never accept abortion. I will never compromise on it. I would rather die.
01:06:33.300
That's where I stand. But the good news is that the whole premise is flawed.
01:06:40.800
I don't believe that it's true that this country as a whole is so enamored with abortion.
01:06:48.640
I don't believe that it's true that we are, in fact, a country of baby killers. There are some baby
01:06:55.900
killers in this country. I don't think they're the majority. The pro-life message can win in this
01:07:03.180
country, but only if we have the courage to fight for it and the intelligence to fight well.
01:07:09.560
That's where Republicans tend to fail, both in the courage and the intelligence departments.
01:07:17.680
And that is why they lose. And that is why those Republicans are today canceled.
01:07:24.400
That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Have a great day.
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