The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1259 - The 'Fact Checkers' Have Been Monitoring My Podcast And They Don't Like What They've Heard

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, there are a number of left-wing organizations you've never heard of

00:00:03.680 that determine what information you can access online. One of them is called NewsGuard,

00:00:07.420 and now they're coming after me for alleged misinformation on my podcast. We'll talk about

00:00:11.940 that. Also, the mayor of Nashville announces an investigation into the leak of the Covenant

00:00:15.600 Shooters Manifesto. Schools in Pittsburgh begin a program to make math more equitable, whatever

00:00:20.540 that is supposed to mean. And Republicans turn in another poor election day performance.

00:00:24.900 Now they're trying to scapegoat pro-lifers for it. We'll talk about all that and more today on

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00:01:43.860 There's an old story from the early 20th century Russian empire. It goes something like this. A man on the

00:01:48.880 street yells, Nikolay is a moron. A police officer hears this and thinking that the guy is referring to the 1.00

00:01:53.580 czar, Nicholas II. The cop arrests the man. The guy protests, well, no, officer, I didn't mean our respected

00:01:59.600 czar, but another Nikolay. And then the cop responds, don't try to trick me. If you say moron, you're obviously

00:02:04.720 referring to the czar. Now, who knows whether that story is true or not? It's on Wikipedia, so it's probably made up. 1.00

00:02:10.740 Whatever the case, it does reveal a fundamental truth about thugs and autocrats, which is that the more

00:02:16.380 authoritarian they become, the more amusing they often are, if only unintentionally. They just can't help

00:02:22.460 themselves. And of course, we're seeing that today pretty much everywhere we look. One of the ironies of the death of

00:02:27.460 humor on the left is that without realizing it, leftists have suddenly become some of the funniest people on the

00:02:33.200 planet, again, unintentionally. Case in point, yesterday afternoon, I opened my email and I found a message from

00:02:38.700 somebody named Jack Brewster. Jack said he works for a company called NewsGuard, which says that it applies, quote,

00:02:44.680 various metrics of credibility and transparency to news organizations and podcasts so that, quote,

00:02:49.040 consumers, advertisers, researchers, and others can make more informed decisions about which media

00:02:54.400 they choose to consume and support. It's all very serious stuff that we absolutely need some

00:02:59.480 shadowy organization with an Orwellian name like NewsGuard to handle for us. There's just no chance

00:03:04.700 that people can come to, you know, informed conclusions about media outlets and podcasts on their own.

00:03:10.160 You can't be entrusted to decide for yourself what news outlets you like and what podcasts you like.

00:03:15.280 You need NewsGuard to help you and guide you along the way. You need Jack Brewster there

00:03:20.600 to take you by the hand and guide you. And to that end, Jack Brewster, who happens to be,

00:03:25.680 of course, a former operative of the Democrat Party, provided a series of questions for me

00:03:30.800 about my podcast and the content on my podcast. He's been monitoring it for a while now,

00:03:36.680 it would appear. And he demanded that I reply to his questions so that he can rank my show and,

00:03:42.340 of course, inevitably rank it poorly and get me censored on social media, which is the whole

00:03:46.820 idea. Now, I'll get into NewsGuard's real mission and the full text of Jack Brewster's email in a

00:03:51.640 second, but I'm not going to bury the lead here. Here's the precise question from my new friend Jack

00:03:56.940 that truly is the single best paragraph I've ever read in my email inbox, which maybe isn't saying

00:04:03.400 much, but it's true. It brought joy to my day. And so I want to spread that joy to you. So here it is,

00:04:09.340 the totally earnest question from fact-checking savant, Jack Brewster. Jack wrote to me, quote,

00:04:16.620 the August 24th, 2023 episode of the Matt Walsh show featured a bonus special segment in which

00:04:21.600 Walsh stated, Michelle Obama is a man. I'm increasingly convinced that there's some

00:04:25.800 validity out there. No, I really am. Look, some people have looked into this. Shapira interjected

00:04:30.880 to say, for God's sake, Matt, you're the only one in America who knows what women, 0.99

00:04:34.340 that women can't be men. Stop it. Walsh replied, I don't know. Look, and some information has come

00:04:39.700 out about Barack Obama recently that also confirms what we were told was once a conspiracy theory.

00:04:45.140 Shapiro interjected again to say, Barack Obama did like dudes. He did like dudes. That's a thing he

00:04:50.440 wrote, which is a weird thing to write to a girlfriend, by the way. Walsh later asked,

00:04:54.740 why are we dodging this question about Michelle Obama's gender? To which Klavan responded,

00:04:58.700 yeah, Michelle is obviously a man. Shapiro replied, oh God, guys, please stop. She's not a man. She's

00:05:06.060 a woman, a very bad woman, by the way. That was the email that he sent me. That was the question. 0.59

00:05:11.480 Then Jack, smelling the Pulitzer, asks me the money question, quote, why did Walsh and Klavan claim

00:05:16.980 that Michelle Obama is a man? Now, I'm not going to get into the various high quality sources I was

00:05:23.980 relying on when I made my remarks, which were obviously serious in every possible respect.

00:05:29.860 I'm not going to talk about how Michelle Obama conspicuously doesn't list her pronouns in her 0.94

00:05:34.900 Twitter bio, even though most prominent Democrats, including AOC and Pete Buttigieg, are proudly doing

00:05:40.000 so. I'm not going to talk about broad shoulders or deep voices or a weird lack of baby pictures or

00:05:45.020 anything like that. I'm certainly not going to show you the footage of Ted Nugent's infamous

00:05:49.220 discussion with Kyle Rittenhouse from back in April, where he outlined some of his own observations

00:05:53.340 and the evidence that he has found that Michelle Obama is a man. I'm not going to show you any of

00:05:58.660 that. I deeply hope that you don't look up that footage for yourself, which you can find on YouTube

00:06:01.820 or Twitter. None of that is the point here. Instead, I'm going to do what NewsGuard desperately

00:06:07.220 doesn't want me to do, which is to provide some context. And first of all, Jack at NewsGuard

00:06:11.200 immediately gets a couple of obvious facts wrong. For one thing, I didn't make these comments about

00:06:16.000 Michelle Obama on my show or a special edition of my show, which doesn't exist. I made the comments on

00:06:21.220 Daily Wire backstage. So he got the show completely wrong. And that backstage took place on August 23rd,

00:06:27.040 which was debate night, not August 24th, as the fact-checked guy claimed. So these are

00:06:31.120 basic facts that this fact-checking, this well-funded fact-checking organization has already got

00:06:38.000 wrong. And as for this discussion that he is pointing to and fact-checking, I figure maybe I

00:06:44.940 should show you the relevant portion of that clip. Let's watch it.

00:06:47.500 This was a little unexpected. I am the most popular game show host in America. This show we

00:06:54.700 started on the Daily Wire YouTube channel. It is the yes or no game. We've sold a bazillion of these

00:06:59.420 games. We sell out every single time. We now have the expansion pack. The expansion pack is

00:07:05.340 the conspiracy theory pack. And the producers of this very show want answers from four of the cards

00:07:12.380 on this game. Just your, listen, you don't, you're not being held to anything. Media Matters is going

00:07:17.220 to clip it out anyway, but this is a safe space. If I say something about 9-11, I'll pretend I never

00:07:20.840 said it. Hypothetically. Don't worry. Hypothetically. If that were to happen. Your polls will go up. These 0.91

00:07:25.000 are, I did not write these cards. I take no responsibility for them. Just want to go round

00:07:30.540 Robin a little bit here. This is a mean one. This is actually a mean one. I don't even want to say

00:07:35.540 it. I mean, ask me the question, but I'll read it too. Michelle Obama is a man. Uh, can I take that

00:07:44.540 one? Yeah. I am increasingly convincing. No, I really am. I've seen, look, some people have looked

00:07:52.880 into this and, uh, I think especially who are the, Joan Rivers. She's, she looked into it and

00:07:58.280 then, for God's sake, Matt, you're the only one in America who knows that women can't be men. 0.63

00:08:02.480 Stop it. Well, but the question is, I don't know. Look, and we, and we, some, some information has

00:08:09.680 come out about, about Obama recently that, uh, that, that, that also confirms what we were told

00:08:14.740 was once a conspiracy theory. He did like dudes. He did like dudes. That is the thing that he wrote

00:08:17.760 up to a girlfriend, which is a weird thing to write to a girlfriend, by the way. Yeah. A very weird

00:08:21.480 thing. I can explain. Of course you can. Okay. So we're playing a game where you're supposed to

00:08:26.680 answer these funny questions. It's not supposed to be an inquisition where everyone has to rigorously

00:08:30.320 fact check and cross-reference all of their statements and provide citations. It's pretty

00:08:34.980 obvious if you're watching that clip and you don't suffer from any debilitating disorder that affects

00:08:39.460 your ability to perceive humor or sarcasm. I can only imagine what it must be like to have Jack

00:08:43.940 Brewster over to your house for game nights. Like you're playing apples to apples or cards against

00:08:48.560 humanity or something like that. And Jack is sitting in the corner by himself, sipping LaCroix,

00:08:53.360 issuing fact checks. Uh, excuse me. I've rated your answer misleading. It lacks important context.

00:08:58.680 I've also reported you to the FBI. I'm actually a bit disappointed that Jack didn't go further with

00:09:03.020 his fact check though. For one thing, Michael Knowles begins this segment by stating that he's

00:09:06.320 the most popular game show host in America. And that's obviously a statement in need of scrutiny.

00:09:11.520 And then Knowles goes on to say that some dishonest hack from media matters is probably going to clip

00:09:15.680 our responses to the game, take them out of context to pretend to take us literally when

00:09:20.380 we're obviously just messing around on a boring debate night. Uh, Jack should have fact check

00:09:23.980 them there, fact checked them there and pointed out that in fact, a dishonest hack from media

00:09:28.380 matters did not take us out of context. Instead, a dishonest hack from news guard did. Now, to be

00:09:34.760 fair, Jack raised a few other pointed questions too. For example, he writes during the September 14th,

00:09:39.680 2023 episode, Walsh stated, there are no clinical trials or studies that demonstrate that it's

00:09:44.560 safe or necessary in any way to give COVID shots to six month old children. Not a single one, not a

00:09:48.820 single study. However, multiple studies, including this study in pediatrics and this study in the New

00:09:53.340 England Journal of Medicine have shown that it's safe to give COVID-19 shots to children ages six

00:09:58.340 months old. Should Walsh have noted such studies instead of making such a broad claim? Now, this is

00:10:04.480 an example of spreading misinformation while claiming to combat it. Neither one of the studies that

00:10:09.340 Brewster cites actually prove his assertion that the COVID shot is safe or necessary for six month

00:10:14.220 old children. The first study from the journal pediatrics isn't really a study at all. It's a

00:10:19.160 research brief. And here's what it says, quote, we may have underestimated or missed potential safety

00:10:24.300 concerns if the biologically plausible risk interval for an outcome differed from our specified risk

00:10:30.100 interval. The researchers say that their analysis is early and therefore has reduced statistical power.

00:10:35.900 The second study from the New England Journal of Medicine also acknowledges that, quote,

00:10:39.540 wider scale use of the vaccine in children after authorization may identify other less frequent or

00:10:44.680 more serious adverse events and continued monitoring of safety after emergency use authorization is

00:10:50.500 ongoing. So these are not, in fact, documents that prove that it's safe to give your six month old

00:10:55.760 child a COVID vaccine. And they are tentative assessments of a very limited amount of data. And they

00:11:02.040 certainly don't even come close to suggesting that the shot is necessary for these children. That's about

00:11:07.660 the extent of NewsGuard's factual questions for me. The rest of Jack's email, which was quite extensive,

00:11:13.420 does get even weirder, though, somehow. For example, he asks, can you comment on whether the podcast is

00:11:19.740 dominated by one-sided opinion? Now, he wants to know the answer to that question because, quote,

00:11:27.320 one of NewsGuard's criteria for rating a podcast seeks to determine whether a podcast is dominated by

00:11:33.120 one-sided opinion. Then the email cites a bunch of examples of me providing my opinion without inviting

00:11:38.680 someone on the show to argue with me. And, I mean, really, he didn't need to provide examples because

00:11:43.860 that's literally every single show I sit here in front of a camera and give my opinion. Now, what's funny

00:11:49.780 about this line of attack is that when other outlets have provided both sides of an issue, NewsGuard

00:11:56.760 blames them for doing that. So it's a lose-lose proposition. A couple of years ago, Red State reported

00:12:01.740 that NewsGuard berated them for publishing an article with the headline,

00:12:05.540 Doctor Disagrees with the CDC slash NIH on COVID. Now, what was wrong with that article? According

00:12:11.680 to NewsGuard, quote, the headline suggests that there are two opposing sides of a debate,

00:12:15.780 the doctor and public health authorities, and that both positions are equally supported by evidence.

00:12:19.620 This is not the case. So you're damned if you present both sides, and you're damned if you don't.

00:12:25.340 The only solution they want is for you to parrot their side. If you don't do that,

00:12:29.400 then they'll do what they're doing to me. They'll whine because I have too much opinion

00:12:33.540 on my podcast, even though it is an opinion podcast. The whole show is my opinion. That is

00:12:40.060 the genre of the show. It is like complaining about an editorial editorializing. Okay? It's like

00:12:47.660 reading an editorial in the newspaper. It's like, there's too much editorializing going on in this

00:12:51.460 editorial. It's like if I had a sports show and they criticize me for not talking enough about the

00:12:57.540 budget deficit. Apparently, NewsGuard has decided that opinion shows simply shouldn't exist as a

00:13:04.280 category, or at least not opinion shows that center around opinions like mine. Now, all of this is

00:13:12.120 absurd and therefore funny, of course, but below the surface, it's a little less amusing. You may not

00:13:18.260 have heard of this organization, but NewsGuard is in fact a powerful and influential organization,

00:13:22.700 one that you are funding with your tax dollars. They recently received a massive grant from Biden's

00:13:28.720 Department of Defense for nearly $750,000. As Michael Schellenberger testified before Congress

00:13:33.940 earlier this year, quote, both the Global Disinformation Index and NewsGuard are US government

00:13:38.900 funded entities who are working to drive advertisers' revenue away from disfavored publications

00:13:43.880 and towards the ones they favor. This is totally inappropriate. Inappropriate, yes, but it's

00:13:50.200 happening. Inappropriate, you know, to put it mildly. It's one of the reasons NewsGuard brought on

00:13:56.180 Michael Hayden as an advisor. Hayden has said that unvaccinated Trump supporters should be sent to

00:14:01.280 Afghanistan. He said that today's Republicans are the most violent ideological force he's ever seen in

00:14:05.660 the world. He suggested that Senator Tuberville should be killed. He also lied to Congress about the CIA's 0.99

00:14:11.780 torture program. None of that bothers NewsGuard because Hayden didn't make fun of Michelle Obama

00:14:16.920 or anyone on the left. And NewsGuard's only job is to censor the political enemies of the Democratic

00:14:22.500 Party. That is why the Democratic Party is funding them. Now, to be clear, it's not just the US

00:14:28.500 government that's backing NewsGuard. One of NewsGuard's early investors was the Publicis Group.

00:14:33.620 Well, who are they? Well, they have a subsidiary called Publicis Health Media, which works with the

00:14:38.940 largest pharmaceutical companies on the planet, including Eli Lilly, AstraZeneca, Bayer, Novartis,

00:14:44.540 and many others. And Publicis Health Media has already announced explicit partnerships with NewsGuard.

00:14:51.180 Maybe you're starting to get the picture here. The government and Big Pharma have a very close ally

00:14:55.380 in NewsGuard. And now, coincidentally enough, NewsGuard is going after conservatives who question

00:15:00.480 the wisdom of giving the COVID shot to your six-month-old child. And NewsGuard lieutenants like

00:15:05.340 Jack Brewster are active on Twitter haranguing Elon Musk for daring to suggest that Tony Fauci

00:15:10.580 might have a funded gain-of-function research that made COVID deadlier.

00:15:16.500 So they get funded by organizations and by interests, and then they go out and they

00:15:21.820 enforce the interests of those organizations. That's the way it works. And not just targeting me.

00:15:28.560 They've done the same thing to Breitbart, Revolver, The Federalist, Fox News, Red State, Life News,

00:15:34.280 PragerU, The Daily Wire, broadly speaking, and various other publications. And they're being as

00:15:40.780 transparently partisan about all this as you'd expect. As The Federalist reported, nearly every

00:15:46.460 outlet that opted to ignore or discredit the New York Post's reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop

00:15:50.800 maintains a near-perfect rating from NewsGuard's accuracy and credibility score. Politico, NPR,

00:15:56.240 New York Times, maintained a favorable 100 out of 100 rating, which means that they are always,

00:16:03.160 I guess, they are always honest, always. While CBS News scores a 95 out of 100. The New York Post,

00:16:10.840 on the other hand, suffers a grade of 69.5 out of 100, and The Federalist, a 12.5 out of 100.

00:16:18.360 NewsGuard also promotes pro-abortion resources and punishes pro-life sites, as you would expect.

00:16:22.460 So if you lie to protect the Bidens, you're credible. If you point out the corruption of

00:16:27.980 the Biden family, you are not credible. NewsGuard is becoming big now for a very specific reason,

00:16:33.080 which is that the Missouri versus Biden case is pending before the Supreme Court. And that's a case

00:16:38.560 that could punish the Biden administration for pressuring social media sites to censor

00:16:43.060 conservatives. In anticipation of a bad ruling in that case, the Biden administration is outsourcing

00:16:48.340 its censorship apparatus to cutouts like NewsGuard. And that's why all this matters.

00:16:54.480 You know, it may seem like an organization like NewsGuard just exists to send annoying emails to

00:16:59.400 people like me. And if that's all this is, then who cares, right? But it's not. They exist to suppress

00:17:06.460 opinions that the ruling class disapproves of. They are the government's way of getting around the

00:17:12.240 First Amendment by enlisting third parties to carry out their censorship campaign. So we are not looking

00:17:19.080 at some corrupt, rogue, left-wing blog. NewsGuard is a core component of the left's evolving censorship

00:17:26.880 apparatus. And already it's powerful. Its ratings have an effect on what you can see online. They help

00:17:33.660 to determine what you can see, what you can access. Microsoft, the Defense Department, the World Health

00:17:39.840 Organization, the State Department, all have affiliations with NewsGuard. Specifically,

00:17:44.180 Microsoft's search engine Bing licenses NewsGuard's technology, and NewsGuard is pitching it to other

00:17:49.840 companies as well. What you have to realize about this is that there are no GOP-funded equivalents

00:17:59.940 to NewsGuard. There is no right-wing effort underway to smear leftists with fraudulent fact checks in

00:18:06.060 order to censor them online. Nothing like NewsGuard or Media Matters or any of these organizations

00:18:11.000 exists on the right. This is a fight they're winning because they have the field completely to

00:18:16.640 themselves. And so we have to come up with an answer that goes beyond just mocking them.

00:18:23.500 But in the meantime, I must admit, it is fun to mock them. And that's why I sent Jack Brewster a response

00:18:28.500 to his emails informing him that I cannot answer his question about Michelle Obama being a man until he

00:18:34.480 provides me with a definition of the word man. Brewster emailed back last night saying,

00:18:39.660 Hi, Mr. Walsh, I understand what you're driving at, but my question about the Michelle Obama segment was

00:18:43.300 not about the gender ideology debate. I was asking whether you or Mr. Klavan have any evidence to

00:18:48.000 support the claim that Michelle Obama is or ever claimed to be a man. To that, I responded, quote,

00:18:53.840 Hi, Jack, it's difficult to have any conversation about whether Michelle Obama is or isn't a man

00:18:57.500 until we are sure what the word means. As someone who works for a fact-checking organization,

00:19:01.280 I would certainly hope that you could provide a definition of this basic term. If you cannot define

00:19:05.960 it, then will you provide a disclaimer in your report stipulating that you are unable to personally

00:19:10.600 dispute my assertion that Michelle Obama is a man because you do not know what the term means in

00:19:14.700 the first place? Thanks again. Now, Jack did not answer after that. He has been stumped, apparently.

00:19:22.800 I guess we'll never know what a man is or whether Michelle Obama is one. And that is all very funny,

00:19:29.160 but also disturbing when you consider how much power these people really have.

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00:20:36.680 We'll begin with NBC News, which reports the mayor of Nashville, Tennessee called Monday for

00:20:40.740 an investigation after images reported to be the writings of a shooter who killed six people at

00:20:44.600 the Covenant School in March were posted online. The three images of writings which were posted Monday

00:20:49.360 by a conservative podcast and YouTube show host are said to be from the shooter. NBC News has not

00:20:55.340 confirmed whether the documents are authentic. Audrey Hale was killed by police after having

00:21:00.620 opened fire on March 27th at the private Christian school. The shooter killed three children and three

00:21:04.960 adults. Nashville Mayor Freddie O'Connell said he directed Metro Nashville Law Director Wally Dietz to

00:21:11.700 initiate an investigation into how these images could have been released. I am deeply concerned with the

00:21:15.500 safety, security, and well-being of the Covenant families and all Nashvilleians who are grieving.

00:21:19.960 O'Connell said in a statement. Podcast host Stephen Crowder posted the images online Monday. The

00:21:25.200 writings and the images appear to have language about carrying out a shooting at a school and a date.

00:21:32.860 And just skimming through this article, of course, I'm not seeing any quote of what those documents

00:21:43.520 actually say. No surprise there. So NBC News doesn't mention that she talked about killing 0.88

00:21:48.600 white people because of their white privilege and so on. On Monday, a spokesman for those parents, 0.94

00:21:53.880 for the parents of the Covenant parents, called whoever posted these documents a viper and said

00:21:58.840 the person released evidence that was gathered in our most vulnerable moment. You have now allowed the

00:22:03.840 shooter who terrorized our family with bullets to be able to terrorize us with words from the grave,

00:22:07.880 said the spokesperson Brent Leatherwood, whose three children were at the school and survived.

00:22:12.400 Okay. A few things. First of all, the claim from the mayor that this somehow puts people's safety in

00:22:21.800 jeopardy is total nonsense. They've been saying that from the beginning. And one of the reasons why

00:22:25.900 they can't release the documents is that it would jeopardize people's safety. And he says that it

00:22:29.520 puts not only the families in jeopardy, but it puts all Nashvilleians. Safety in jeopardy. In what way?

00:22:36.460 How does it jeopardize anyone's safety? That was always nonsense. See, that's one of the many reasons

00:22:43.100 why we demand to see the documents is that the reasons they gave us for not releasing them were

00:22:48.860 obviously nonsense. So they're clearly lying. We talked about yesterday. One of the reasons they give us

00:22:55.720 is litigation. They say that we can't release it because of litigation. Well, the litigation is

00:22:59.800 over the fact that they're not releasing it. So if they release it, then the litigation goes away.

00:23:06.420 So that is such a bogus excuse, a total insult to our intelligence. You would have to be a moron to buy 1.00

00:23:13.260 that and, or at least deeply confused. And then on top of that, they say that, well, and this is another 1.00

00:23:20.480 thing they told us that it's, it had blueprints about how to carry out an attack and they don't want to

00:23:24.500 inspire copycats. If there's clearly, if there's something like that, I mean, there's really

00:23:30.880 something in there that, that, that could actually put someone's safety in jeopardy, some sort of like

00:23:37.460 how to manual for carrying out a shooting. Obviously you could redact that. You don't have to release

00:23:43.580 that part of it. I mean, they're the ones who tell us that there's a lot of documents, a lot of things

00:23:47.400 written, you know, well, if that's the case, then you, no one's saying that that specific portion

00:23:53.460 needs to be released, but you're not releasing any of it at all. And so that is why there are so many

00:24:00.440 questions. Now, as I say yesterday, I'm obviously extremely sympathetic to the parents who don't want

00:24:07.920 this stuff released. I understand why they don't. I understand their position. Uh, I'd probably feel

00:24:13.080 the same way if I was in their shoes. Um, they don't want to relive the nightmare. They don't

00:24:18.280 want to have this case back in the news. They don't want people talking about it. Um, they're

00:24:23.380 trying to pick up the pieces and find a way to keep moving. And so I get all of that as much as

00:24:28.940 anyone could possibly understand it when they're, when they haven't suffered such a tragedy. Um, and

00:24:34.200 you know, it doesn't help in their grieving process to have the killer's manifesto in the news a year

00:24:38.640 later. So all of that is, I totally understand, but this is why, again, they should have put this

00:24:45.380 information out months ago when it first happened. So tell the truth right away. And then there is no

00:24:51.880 reliving of the trauma. I mean, if you go through something like this, unfortunately going to relive

00:24:55.980 it all the time in a certain way, but, but there wouldn't be this, there'd be no need to drudge it up

00:25:02.760 in the news in November when the shooting happened in March. If they had just been honest right away,

00:25:10.200 the fault here lies with the officials, with the authorities who chose not to tell the truth from

00:25:15.300 the get-go. Um, and here's the other point too, that we feel great sympathy for the families of the

00:25:23.900 victims. Our hearts break for them. Also public policy, policy, and these kinds of decisions

00:25:31.100 have to be made with the entire public in mind. You know, it's, it's like, it's similar to when you

00:25:39.240 have families of victims calling for gun control, you know, and, and, uh, when that happens as it does

00:25:45.200 sometimes, I understand why they're saying it. I understand emotionally. I don't agree. You know, I don't

00:25:51.100 agree with calling for gun control, but I, but I, I understand emotionally why they would feel that way

00:25:59.080 at the same time. However, we don't make decisions about basic legal rights based entirely on what

00:26:07.180 devastated and distraught families, you know, are, are saying about it. We listen to them and we feel for

00:26:14.520 them. Um, and basic principles remain, you know, the second amendment is a basic principle. Um, the need

00:26:25.500 for transparency is a basic principle. And so while we understand emotionally and we can, uh, empathize

00:26:36.820 with how people feel about it, basic principle is that there needs to be transparency when something

00:26:46.140 like this happens. Like it's just not acceptable. It is just not acceptable for some crime like this

00:26:55.060 to be carried out. And then you tell us that, oh yeah, well they, this person explained why they did

00:26:59.720 it, but we're not going to tell you. No, no, no. Unacceptable. That is just, it's not, it's not a

00:27:06.440 tenable situation. You have no right to do that. And besides, this is not a statement about the

00:27:14.200 families. I'm not saying we should release it because I disagree with the families. It's a

00:27:17.280 statement about the government, about the FBI, the officials who've, you know, been the ones ultimately

00:27:23.060 who make the decision not to release the documents. The families feel how they feel about it,

00:27:27.600 but they're not the, they don't have the power to determine what happens with these documents on

00:27:32.000 their own, right? This, this is, this is a determination that ultimately is made by government

00:27:36.680 officials. And they say those government officials do. They say their reason is because they're

00:27:43.120 respecting the families and because of litigation and because of safety. Well, we know the litigation

00:27:52.100 excuse, the safety excuse. We know that's bogus. Do you believe that they actually give a damn about

00:27:59.120 those families or about any families? No, the FBI, they know what's in those documents. You think

00:28:05.860 they care about anybody? No, I don't trust them. So when we're told that the writings won't be released,

00:28:13.180 we're also being told that we should trust the judgment of these officials who are the ones who make

00:28:18.160 that call. And I don't trust them. And I have no reason to, and you have no reason to, and you

00:28:24.720 don't trust them either. Which is why you always end up back in a position where it's not up to you to

00:28:34.320 decide. It's not up to you. Maybe you release the documents ultimately, and people look at it and

00:28:40.160 they say, yeah, you know, there's not, you can't make much out of this. Not much to make of this.

00:28:45.980 It's just a bunch of incoherent, contradictory ramblings. Maybe that's the case. And if it's the

00:28:51.720 case, then we know, right? But don't tell me I have to take their word for it. Don't tell me I

00:28:59.220 have to take the FBI's word for it. Don't tell me that. That is not acceptable. Nobody should accept

00:29:04.800 that. All right. Daily Wire has this report. A school district in New Jersey partnered with a

00:29:11.540 sex education group that has offered to provide schools with so-called gender affirming kits that

00:29:16.400 could include tucking underwear, chest binders, and devices allowing girls to pee standing up. 1.00

00:29:23.840 New documents and videos obtained by Parents Defending Education and first shared with the Daily Wire show

00:29:29.580 evidence of the Princeton Public Schools District's partnership with High Tops, which is a

00:29:34.760 leftist sex education nonprofit. The partnership, which the district has previously said it would

00:29:40.560 reconsider, was first revealed by Project Veritas back in September. High Tops, based in Princeton,

00:29:46.780 describes itself as an organization dedicated to inclusive and youth-informed sex education

00:29:51.120 and LGBTQ plus support for young people throughout New Jersey. Correspondents obtained by PDE show

00:29:58.780 High Tops sending lesson plans and promotional flyers to PPS.

00:30:02.580 PPS. A lot of acronyms going on here. PPS is the school district. One of the flyers sent to PPS from

00:30:08.480 High Tops was promoting a gender affirming kit. The kit included things like chest binders, packing tape,

00:30:15.160 tucking underwear, packers, chest forms, and stand-to-pee devices.

00:30:19.680 This is what they're sending to a school district. Items that are, at the very least, promoting

00:30:28.100 this stuff. Reading now from the flyer. The High Tops gender affirming kit is a groundbreaking

00:30:33.540 resource designed to support transgender, non-binary, and gender expansive students

00:30:37.340 while promoting inclusivity within your school community. The kit is a comprehensive package that

00:30:42.140 equips administrators, teachers, school counselors, and nurses with the knowledge and tools they need to

00:30:47.060 empower students on their gender journey. Their gender journey. That's what sex education is now. 1.00

00:30:58.960 Daily Wire asked PPS about the extent to which the manuals from High Top were used in classes

00:31:04.860 throughout the district. Eric Sanze, director of outreach at PDE, said in a statement to the Daily Wire,

00:31:11.680 these trainings are a child safeguarding nightmare. Not only do they tell teachers to ask for the gender

00:31:17.500 pronouns of every student, but they also instruct teachers to ask students how they want to be

00:31:21.780 referred to in front of their parents. It's an explicit invitation to keep secrets from parents.

00:31:28.360 Yeah, that's, so did you get that there? So they're being asked, not being asked that in front of the

00:31:34.540 parents, just to be clear, they're asking the kids, what do you want us to call you in front of your parents?

00:31:41.680 So that it's a way of saying, yeah, if you want, hey, if you want to, the teacher is saying to the

00:31:49.720 student, if you want to keep a secret from your parents, you know, but we can do that. Inviting them

00:31:55.720 to keep these secrets. And this is all about guiding them again in their gender journey. Now, none of this 0.93

00:32:06.620 is surprising. Uh, it should not be surprising to you. And I'm saying that not just because of the

00:32:13.860 left's recent embrace of this kind of insanity, going on gender journeys, like this was not, 0.94

00:32:22.420 nobody was using phrases like this. This was, even when I was in high school, when I was in grades,

00:32:27.700 it was not all, it was a while ago, but it wasn't all that long ago. Um,

00:32:31.520 the phrase gender journey would have meant nothing. Like nobody would have had any idea

00:32:37.160 what you're talking about. And there were no, you know, nobody was getting chest binders. Nobody

00:32:42.400 was getting packing tape. Uh, nobody was getting, um, did the stand to pee device. Like none of that

00:32:49.440 existed. Uh, certainly not, it was not being promoted on any kind of mainstream level.

00:32:54.740 And, and, and yet, and yet everybody, and everybody was fine. Like there were no kids

00:33:01.620 when I was in school that were, uh, in, in great pain because they weren't able to obtain a chest

00:33:12.140 binder or a stand to pee device. Right. And if you go farther back than that, if you go to my

00:33:19.860 parents' generation or before that, all throughout, it's, there's, there was not needed. Nobody needed 0.94

00:33:25.080 it. Nobody was talking about it. And yet all of a sudden now we're told that there are all these

00:33:31.580 kids that this, this is desperately need. It's not just, it's, they need it. If they don't get it,

00:33:36.220 then, then it may have catastrophic, fatal implications. All of that is nonsense, of course.

00:33:43.580 But what we have to always keep in mind, when you see this kind of insanity in the

00:33:49.760 sex education programs is that, yeah, some of this, this is a, this is the most recent

00:33:55.160 manifestation, but, um, it's also what sex education is fundamentally and has always been

00:34:03.240 designed to be. Um, government school, sex education, you've heard on this show. So you,

00:34:12.340 if you listen to the show, you know where that traces back to, that goes back to Alfred Kinsey,

00:34:15.800 the, you know, these sexologists and sex researchers and, and, and these psychotherapy

00:34:21.460 quacks from the mid 20th century. And before that, that's where the whole idea of comprehensive 0.98

00:34:26.020 sex education comes from. It comes from them. And, um, it was always an explicit agenda to 1.00

00:34:35.320 sexualize children from a young age. That's why these educate, that's why these, uh, so-called

00:34:40.020 sex education programs exist. Uh, and it's why they should not exist. You know, so we should 1.00

00:34:47.940 not, yes, we, we rightly, uh, react with disgust at these, like, especially egregious examples

00:34:57.000 of, uh, the sexualization of, of children happening in schools. But our response should not be, no,

00:35:05.360 we need to, you know, we need to come up with a more reasonable and more appropriate

00:35:09.600 sex education curriculum. That should not be our response. And our response should also not be, 0.93

00:35:16.320 uh, you know, we need a sexual education program that, that, that emphasizes abstinence. 1.00

00:35:21.260 These are all false choices. Our response should be that there, none of this belongs in the schools

00:35:27.780 whatsoever. This entire subject does not belong in school. It is crazy that this is happening at all.

00:35:33.620 This is not what the schools exist for. Um, if, if the topic of reproduction

00:35:43.080 is going to come up, comes up in science class, comes up, you know, some of this will come up if

00:35:50.800 you're talking science, biology, anatomy, but to have a separate course set aside to talk about

00:35:59.120 sexuality with the kids that should not exist. There is no version of that conversation that

00:36:07.580 will ever be appropriate for a strange adult to have with a child. There is no version of that

00:36:14.240 conversation about sexuality that will ever be appropriate for some teacher to have with a 10

00:36:19.980 year old that there, that, uh, that, that, you know, it's just one kid in a, in a class.

00:36:28.720 It's, it will never be appropriate. And that, and that's what we have to realize that that,

00:36:32.680 and that should be our response to this. All right. Staying with a madness in the public school

00:36:38.260 system, CBS news reports on efforts to make math more equitable. Let's watch this.

00:36:44.440 Pittsburgh public schools, hiring a consultant to teach a new method of instructing kids. It's

00:36:50.920 intended to be anti-racist. And what some find curious is that the subject involved

00:36:55.340 is math. KDK lead investigator, Andy Sheehan talked with the district leader who recommended it.

00:37:02.060 No matter how math is taught, one plus one will always equal two. But Pittsburgh public schools

00:37:08.080 is now offering what he calls an anti-racist approach, saying it is trying to address racial

00:37:14.880 inequity in math classes. We think of math as, you know, addition, subtraction, multiplication,

00:37:21.840 sort of an objective reality. How can math be racist? We're talking about really a mindset,

00:37:27.760 and it's an approach. So whether we use the term anti-racist or we talk about, um, racial equity,

00:37:34.160 it's, it's, it's the same. Last week, the school board approved a $50,000 contract to the consulting

00:37:40.240 group Quetzel to provide workshops for district math teachers to more fully engaged students of color

00:37:46.560 in learning math and hopefully improve performance. According to the most recent test scores,

00:37:52.320 11.6 percent of the district's African-American grade students scored proficient in math compared

00:37:59.440 to 47.5 percent of white students. The district has long sought to close that gap and says it will now

00:38:07.600 be taking this approach. It's one thing to say that, you know, African-American students in the,

00:38:13.440 in the district are underperforming. It's another thing to say that the instruction by math teachers

00:38:19.200 is a racist. We don't use, um, any language to call any approach racist, but what we do is we talk about

00:38:27.760 approaches that are anti-racist. Okay. Pause there for a second. So you notice what these,

00:38:32.400 they can just never answer anything directly, um, on the left. No, it's, it's not just what is a

00:38:40.320 woman or what is a man? As we discovered with our friend Jack Brewster, uh, it's any question at all,

00:38:45.600 any, any, any question relating to their, uh, any, any item on their agenda, they can never answer it

00:38:54.440 directly, never answer a direct question. They refuse to answer direct questions. Um, and it's

00:38:59.400 not because they don't have an answer in mind. It's not because they don't know the answer.

00:39:04.120 It's because they realize that fundamentally their agenda is, uh, is absurd and insane and extreme.

00:39:12.520 And so they can't answer it directly. So clearly what the whole idea here is that is that math

00:39:19.560 education is racist. And so it needs to be anti-racist. And then when he's asked directly,

00:39:24.680 well, how exactly is, could math education be racist? Well, we're not saying it's racist,

00:39:31.640 but we're saying it should be anti-racist. Well, first of all, it is kind of what you put,

00:39:36.440 but earlier in the discussion, he did indicate that it's racist. And now he's saying it's,

00:39:40.360 well, it's not racist, but it needs to be anti-racist. So, but what's the opposite of

00:39:43.080 anti-racist? So it's not anti, is it right now it is not anti-racist. So if it's not anti-racist,

00:39:47.480 does that mean that it's racist? Like just explain it in more detail. And he can't do that.

00:39:53.720 Let's keep watching a little bit of this. To assistant superintendent,

00:39:56.680 Dr. Sean McNeil, this means addressing historic inequities in educating students by exposing them

00:40:03.480 to black professionals in STEM fields to tell students of the African American legacy in mathematics.

00:40:10.200 emphasizing its practical applications in a hands-on, welcoming way. And McNeil says the

00:40:16.760 emphasis is on concepts and reasoning rather than putting importance on getting the answer right.

00:40:22.760 Is this not sort of dumbing down the curriculum, the math curriculum to say, hey, uh, you know.

00:40:30.360 All right. You know, every time I see stories like this,

00:40:34.280 I have a few reactions. I mean, my first reaction is, is, is that this is crazy. Uh,

00:40:40.840 but then I always have, there's a little, I have to admit, I'll admit a little tinge of envy that I

00:40:46.280 feel with every time I hear about something like this, a little tinge of envy, um, that they didn't

00:40:52.760 have policies like this in place when I was in school. I would have loved if, uh, when I was taking

00:40:58.520 math classes and performing very poorly in them, I would have loved if they had a policy that,

00:41:04.360 well, we're not really emphasizing getting the answer right. I would have, I would have really

00:41:08.200 appreciated that when I was in school, you know, 25 years ago, I could have really used that instead

00:41:13.480 of, it would have helped. Who knows where I'd be today? I mean, it would have helped my self-esteem

00:41:18.200 tremendously rather than getting all those D's and E's on math, uh, on, on math tests.

00:41:22.680 If they could have said, look, uh, you didn't get it. Yeah. There were 50 questions on this math

00:41:28.200 test. You got precisely none of them correct. Uh, but we're not, you know, this is not, this is not

00:41:33.000 about getting them right or wrong. That's not what this is about. At the very least, I wish I'd thought

00:41:38.040 of this myself as a, an excuse that I could have presented to my own parents when I came home with the

00:41:45.640 report card and said, look, I don't want you to think too much about whether the answers are right or

00:41:50.000 wrong. It's not about right or wrong. You know, it's not about, it's not about grades, mom and dad.

00:41:56.180 It's about a journey. It's what it is. It's about, it's, you know, I'm on the educational journey and

00:42:00.660 I'm, and I'm really, and I feel good about it. I don't know. I don't know if that would have

00:42:04.420 resonated with them, but what you have to, the real point with this is that aside from just mocking it

00:42:10.720 as we should, um, that mathematics is sort of like the last, the last stronghold. If they can do this

00:42:22.520 with math, then they can do it with anything. If you could take mathematics and, and, and, and start

00:42:30.060 claiming that it's racist and that we have to fundamentally change our approach to it. We have to make,

00:42:35.540 if, if, if, if, if we are at the point of making math equitable, then, uh, then that, that's it.

00:42:45.320 That's the last one. Like that math, mathematics, you would think is as objective of a subject as

00:42:52.780 there can possibly be like two plus two equals four. It just does. There's, there's no way around it.

00:43:01.540 Um, and yet even with mathematics now they're doing it, um, because ultimately we, we understand that

00:43:09.760 this is more than anything, uh, a war on truth, a war on objective truth. And that includes two plus

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00:44:06.820 gcu.edu. Okay. So some comments here disagreeing with my, uh, opinion about DoorDash and tipping,

00:44:13.580 uh, habining says, I always tip $10 plus food delivery is a luxury, not a necessity. $10 plus on

00:44:24.600 10 plus on top of the service fees and the taxes you're already paying, but 10, you throw $10 into it.

00:44:33.740 Um, Kai Bowron says on the DoorDash thing, is it not preferable to be informed as the customer

00:44:38.540 about how the system works? Like you can not like it, but if that's the case, don't use the service

00:44:43.020 and then maybe it will change, but using it and not tipping is just driving out the few good drivers.

00:44:49.000 Um,

00:44:49.600 and Simon says, Matt, you're completely wrong about DoorDash. The reason customers have to tip

00:44:56.620 beforehand is because it's a delivery service and there's often no contact with the customer and

00:45:00.080 therefore no opportunity to leave a tip in person. If the service was bad, you can leave a complaint and

00:45:04.800 get refunded. Also drivers like myself are incentivized to accept orders that are high paying,

00:45:09.180 meaning a good tip. DoorDash pays us like crap so often. The only reason, uh, an order is worth 0.97

00:45:15.740 accepting is because of the tip. It isn't blackmail. It's DoorDash recognizing incentive structures of

00:45:20.300 their employees. No tip means it'll be passed over by drivers multiple times in favor of orders with

00:45:24.800 tips. One final thought, this is not forced charity. I am literally going to the restaurant,

00:45:28.840 getting your food for you and delivering it. Um, yeah. And, and my point is that I think anyone

00:45:36.980 who does a job should be paid for it. The question is who should pay? This is what the, your employer

00:45:43.640 should be paying you for the service. And with something like DoorDash, if I am already paying

00:45:49.580 for the service and then you say, in addition, you need to pay more for the employee who is rendering

00:45:56.660 the service that, that is a, that is a, a crazy system and it just becomes financially untenable

00:46:05.360 for people. Um, you know, it, it, it gets to the point where something like DoorDash, where

00:46:12.060 unless you're well off, it's like, you can't even afford, it's not something you can afford to do

00:46:16.740 very often because the premium you're paying is insane. Um, and what are we going to do about that

00:46:25.400 premium? I mean, like, obviously you, you have to pay for the service and nobody's saying that

00:46:29.580 someone should go pick up the food and for free. And the only thing you pay for is the food,

00:46:33.140 but here it's, it's these, the, the service on top of the employee rendering it, that's the issue.

00:46:41.100 And also, um, this is not how the incentive structure, I understand this is, this is the

00:46:46.100 incentive structure they've come up with supposedly where you get the tip ahead of time and then

00:46:52.460 people can decide whether they want to take your order or not, but that's not even an incentive.

00:46:57.160 There's no incentive there. You already have the money. Incentive is supposed to be, if, if

00:47:04.240 after the fact, it'd be very easy, but you're acting like it's impossible to leave them. There'd

00:47:08.760 be, how could you possibly tip someone? You know, most of the tips are, uh, uh, there's no context.

00:47:13.840 So how you couldn't tip in person. Nobody's saying that it would be very easy to have a system

00:47:17.960 where you deliver the food person receives it. Then something pops up on their phone and says,

00:47:24.960 would you like to leave a tip for the driver? Right? Uh, so, so you could be that way where

00:47:31.320 you tip after the fact. That's all I have done these jobs. Okay. I've did pizza delivery before

00:47:38.040 smartphones existed and that's the way it worked. You got tipped after the fact. And now with

00:47:45.320 smartphones, it'd be very easy to do in a cashless world. Now I know the reason you wouldn't want

00:47:51.900 that is because, well, it makes it, you know, then it's easier for people to not tip, but that's,

00:47:55.400 that's the way tip's supposed to work. You know, you work harder, you get the food there faster,

00:48:00.380 uh, you do everything because you want to get a better tip. That's, that's how the incentive

00:48:06.720 structure is supposed to work. This is not an incentive structure right now. Um, it is, it is a

00:48:13.240 blackmail system. It is, it's emotional manipulation. And like, and as I said, you're

00:48:17.460 responding only, these comments are only responding to the DoorDash scenario, but there's also all the

00:48:21.560 other scenarios like at the coffee shop, for example, where there's no incident, you know,

00:48:25.220 they, they don't even, they just flip the iPad over. You leave the tip that, that has no bearing

00:48:31.700 on what happens after that. There's no incentive at all. Um, so at, at a minimum, I guess this is where

00:48:40.220 I stand on this. If we're going to have this explosion of tipping where everybody wants a tip

00:48:45.780 now at a minimum, if we're going to do that, the fairest way to do it and the way that you should

00:48:52.640 do it, if you don't want to alienate your customers and ha and end up in a situation where fewer people

00:48:57.720 are leaving tips because they're so sick of it. And that's where we're at now. And I know if you work

00:49:01.980 one of these jobs, you might, you know, you might not like that. It may not be, you may wish that

00:49:07.020 wasn't the case, but I'm just telling you, okay, don't shoot the messenger on this. I'm telling

00:49:10.740 you people aren't freaking fed up with it because they're just getting harangued everywhere now for

00:49:17.800 a tip and people are not made of money and they just want to go in and they're already paying for

00:49:23.160 the stuff. And they just want that to cover what they're, that should cover it. If the, if,

00:49:29.480 if a company is not paying you enough, it's like, that should be something you take up with the

00:49:33.140 company. Um, but if we're going to do this and if you, if you don't want to alienate all the

00:49:41.200 customers and make them sick to death of it, then it needs to be after the fact tipping. It needs to

00:49:47.000 be tipping at, you know, as a reward for service. And yeah, you're going to get less tips in that case.

00:49:53.780 Then you got to work harder for them. That's the way it's supposed to go.

00:49:56.400 Or you can just piss everybody off. And then you've got more and more people throwing up their

00:50:02.320 hands and saying, I'm just not tipping anymore. It's too much. It's out of hand. So those are your

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00:52:57.420 I guess I'll get. All right. The rest of the Matt Walsh show continues now.

00:53:01.000 Yesterday was election day in a few states around the country. It was not a good day for

00:53:04.300 Republicans. This should come as no surprises. Republicans haven't had a good day on election

00:53:07.640 day since 2018. It's been loss after loss after loss since then. Last night, Republicans lost the

00:53:14.440 governor's race in Kentucky. They lost the Statehouse of Virginia, and the most troubling

00:53:17.860 result of all, they lost on a ballot initiative in Ohio that has now enshrined child sacrifice as a

00:53:23.860 constitutional right. Reading from the Daily Wire, quote, voters in Ohio voted Tuesday to approve a

00:53:28.280 ballot initiative that places a right to an abortion into the state's constitution. Pro-life advocates

00:53:31.880 say the measure will effectively make abortion legal at any point in pregnancy. The initiative brought

00:53:37.440 in millions in spending, with more than $18 million being spent in favor of the pro-abortion

00:53:41.440 initiative, with just $7 million being spent in opposition since August 9th, according to NBC

00:53:47.320 News. The effort to put abortion into the state constitution was backed by the Ohio Democratic 0.86

00:53:51.900 Party, the ACLU of Ohio, Planned Parenthood, and Ohio's Women's Alliance. Martin Haskell,

00:53:58.000 a proponent of partial birth abortion, gave $100,000 to Ohio Physicians for Reproductive Rights,

00:54:04.240 a political action committee that opposed a Republican-backed measure that would have made it more

00:54:08.060 difficult to amend the state constitution as advocated for passage of issue one. Prominent

00:54:12.720 Ohio Republicans like Governor Mike DeWine and Senator J.D. Vance spoke out against enshrining

00:54:17.340 abortion into the state's constitution, calling the measure extreme. Now, this victory for baby 0.55

00:54:21.100 murder was, of course, cause for celebration in the media and among child sacrifice enthusiasts across

00:54:26.120 the nation. In Ohio, they applauded and cheered and embraced with tears of joy in their eyes.

00:54:32.000 Watch. Abortion is healthcare. And abortion access is the law of the land in Ohio. Tonight,

00:54:45.700 Ohioans United for Reproductive Rights passed issue one and put Ohioans back in charge of their 0.66

00:54:51.900 decisions about pregnancy and abortion. Together, we successfully enshrined the right to reproductive

00:54:58.700 freedom into the Ohio Constitution. Just imagine reacting that way to the news that children in

00:55:06.480 the womb just lost all of their human rights. Because that's what this constitutional amendment 1.00

00:55:11.620 does. It says that children in the womb have no rights at all. If you are not yourself a bloodthirsty

00:55:20.260 sociopath, it is impossible to fully imagine reacting this way. Which is why, if you're like me,

00:55:26.020 when you see them joyously celebrating the mass slaughter of children, you become more resolved

00:55:30.860 than ever to fight and defeat these people. But if you're like many milquetoast Republicans,

00:55:35.720 you become more resolved than ever to cower and compromise and give these people whatever they

00:55:40.260 want in hopes that they will have mercy on you. And that has essentially been the analysis from a

00:55:44.900 great many alleged conservatives since last night and before that. They have determined that not only

00:55:50.260 was the result in Ohio an indictment of the pro-life message, but that the other results were also

00:55:54.340 indictments of the pro-life message. In fact, these Republicans insist that every Republican defeat

00:55:58.840 in every recent election is because of abortion. We must abandon the issue or compromise significantly

00:56:04.460 on it in order to have any chance of winning, they say. According to this conventional right-wing

00:56:09.040 wisdom, the overturning of Roe in the Supreme Court was not a great victory for human rights,

00:56:13.260 but was in fact a political disaster that is solely to blame for all of the losing the Republicans

00:56:18.300 have been doing. The fact that this Republican track record of losing stretches back before Dobbs,

00:56:24.480 the fact that they have been getting wiped out since before the Supreme Court issued any decision

00:56:29.280 on this topic, has apparently not occurred to these people. Or it has, but they find it convenient

00:56:33.340 to blame pro-lifers anyway. If you turn on Fox News last night, and I'm not sure why you would ever

00:56:37.640 want to do such a thing, you would have heard a lot of this kind of capitulating and blame shifting.

00:56:44.120 Here's just a short taste of it. Democrats are trying to scare women into thinking Republicans 1.00

00:56:50.200 don't want abortion legal under any circumstances. And I go back to Pennsylvania, 2022, the Republican

00:56:58.420 candidate for governor, if I remember correctly, no exceptions for rape, incest of the mother's life,

00:57:04.140 and lost to a non-incumbent gubernatorial candidate, Democratic candidate, by a margin that was not seen

00:57:13.680 since the 1940s. So I have to believe that as an indication that the women in America, suburban moms 1.00

00:57:22.180 want it probably legal and rare and probably earlier than, you know, at the point of viability.

00:57:29.420 How do they stop bumbling on abortion? What's the answer? 0.66

00:57:33.440 Well, number one, well, the Republicans have to clear up this issue across these states with clear lines,

00:57:39.860 like a 15 to 20 week abortion ban with exceptions for life, incest and rape, and make it clear.

00:57:48.560 You look at states where that is set in stone and we don't have these problems. We don't have these

00:57:54.380 problems in Florida. We don't have these problems in Georgia. We don't have these problems in North

00:57:57.840 Carolina. And part of that is, is because of that particular issue.

00:58:01.360 So that's Sean Hannity and Rince Priebus talking about how Republicans can start winning. Now you

00:58:08.220 may ask yourself, what in God's name do these two know about winning? What wins do they have under

00:58:14.040 their belt? In what way has either of them ever in their entire careers helped conservatism win

00:58:19.840 anything? Serious question. What have they ever done? What victory have they ever achieved?

00:58:25.260 What ideological battles have they fought and won in their lives? What ideological battles have they

00:58:31.180 fought at all? Why the hell would anyone come to them for insight on this issue or any other?

00:58:37.640 These are all very good questions, but unfortunately they, they are not alone. Republicans are losing

00:58:42.780 because of the abortion issue. The issue is unwinnable. Pro-lifers are screwing everything up 1.00

00:58:48.640 and we must come out and endorse legalized abortion in order to win. That is the message

00:58:53.120 from, from many. I mean, you heard Hannity say it. Abortion should be safe, legal, and rare.

00:59:00.740 That's what he said. He's literally repeating pro-abortion talking points from the nineties.

00:59:05.020 He's a 1990s Clinton era Democrat, which is not exactly breaking news, I suppose. But just to be

00:59:10.600 clear, if you are a supposed conservative now saying that we should embrace legalized abortion,

00:59:14.680 that safe, legal, and rare should be our mantra, then you are, make no mistake, advocating for a full

00:59:20.080 scale surrender on one of the most pivotal fundamental issues of our time. You're free to

00:59:25.920 take that position, but please, for the love of God, don't pretend to be a fighter if you do. You're

00:59:30.700 waving the white flag. You're doing the thing the left never does, and Republicans always do.

00:59:36.240 But before you hoist that flag, let me offer a few thoughts, a few counter arguments to the

00:59:40.480 Sean Hannity's of the world. First of all, you can blame pro-lifers for the, uh, for the Republican

00:59:46.560 Party's string of electoral defeats, or again, especially given that this string of defeats began

00:59:52.260 before Dobbs, you can consider instead the possibility that Republicans by and large have

00:59:57.560 been running bad candidates and bad campaigns. It's especially worth considering given that many

01:00:02.620 of the Republican losers over the past few years have not exactly been pro-life hardliners. In plenty

01:00:07.080 of cases, they've been essentially pro-abortion. Dr. Oz lost in Pennsylvania. I mean, we heard,

01:00:13.340 we heard, uh, Hannity blamed the, the loss of the, in the governor, governor race, uh, because

01:00:19.320 supposedly the person was a hardline pro-lifer. Dr. Oz liberal on the issue in Pennsylvania,

01:00:26.620 and he lost. So how does that work with your equation, Sean? Second, the claim that conservatives

01:00:33.080 should moderate on abortion is not some brilliant new insight. Okay. I love all these people acting

01:00:38.280 like they just came up with this. You know, I've just been thinking about it. And I think that this,

01:00:41.320 this is not some bold political innovation. This is what the Republican establishment has been

01:00:45.480 saying for my entire life, since I was born and before the Republican establishment has insisted

01:00:51.500 that, that the only way to win is to go soft on abortion, compromise, hide from the issue,

01:00:57.600 undersell it. This has been the conventional milk toast Republican wisdom forever. Does it appear to

01:01:05.580 have been effective? Does it have an actual track record of success? Ask yourself that. The

01:01:10.860 Republican establishment establishment has been losing and scapegoating social conservatives

01:01:16.300 forever. They have been blaming us for their, their failures since always. This is nothing new.

01:01:25.020 Why would you buy into it now? The truth is that social conservatives are the only ones on the right

01:01:31.420 who have been doing anything or winning anything recently. Not only are we not to blame for Republican

01:01:37.880 losses, but we are the only ones who can claim any wins in the last few years, especially who else has

01:01:43.960 done anything? Anybody? Hardcore social conservatives know how to fight the culture war. In fact, we're 0.98

01:01:50.180 the only ones on the right who do. Third, this is most important. Before you tell me that the pro-life

01:01:58.760 message is a political loser, answer me this. How many Republican candidates fought back hard

01:02:05.520 and effectively on this issue, actively went after the left, ran ads attacking their opponents for

01:02:12.220 supporting the dismemberment of fully developed infants, which nearly every Democrat does, and

01:02:17.420 actually countered the left's pro-abortion narrative with a strong and affirmative pro-life narrative?

01:02:23.740 How many did that? See, this is the problem. The pro-life message is being blamed in races where the

01:02:29.840 pro-life message was never even articulated. It's being blamed for losing when there was never any

01:02:36.380 fight. Pro-boards in Ohio outspent the other side nearly three to one since August. And that's

01:02:43.900 emblematic of the situation across the country. Our side is, you know, pro-lifers are fighting.

01:02:53.840 Republicans are not putting up a fight. So that doesn't mean we can't win, but it does mean we

01:03:00.880 won't win if we don't even try. Consider this. Has any Republican anywhere run an ad saying,

01:03:09.980 essentially, here's what happens in a third trimester abortion. My opponent supports this.

01:03:16.420 This is the most basic strategy, and I'm not aware of anyone who's even attempted it. Now,

01:03:22.000 I'm not saying that they should show an abortion in an ad because nobody would run it if they do, 0.98

01:03:26.320 and you need people to run it, but they can describe what the procedure involves, okay?

01:03:32.020 There's a way to get this message across, and people don't know this, okay? A lot of people

01:03:37.840 don't know this. They don't really know what they're talking about when it comes to this issue.

01:03:41.300 They don't know what this issue is. They don't understand. And so has there been anyone who's

01:03:45.200 run an ad saying, look, here's what this is. Here's what this guy over here is running against me.

01:03:49.920 He supports this. And so if you agree with him, then vote for him. You know what? If you agree

01:03:55.320 with him on that, I don't even want your vote. But if you're a decent person, then I think you

01:04:02.320 know what you need to do. The point is to go on offense, to flip the script, to flip the conversation,

01:04:09.100 focus it on the horrors and barbarity of abortion and the abortion industry. This has not really been

01:04:14.140 done. It has not really been attempted. Most of the losing candidates have not done this.

01:04:18.880 They have hid from the issue instead of going on offense, which is, of course, the Republican

01:04:22.720 specialty. You know, Democrats want to spend their entire time talking about the hard cases,

01:04:28.960 rape, incest, life of the mother, the cases that account for fewer than 1% of all abortions.

01:04:34.700 They focus the whole conversation on that. Republicans allow themselves to get baited into focusing the

01:04:43.200 conversation there where Democrats want to focus it. Rarely have they responded by saying,

01:04:49.400 we're not going to talk about the 1% of cases until you answer some questions about the 99%.

01:04:55.180 Here's what abortion is. Here's why 99% of abortions are performed. Here's what happens

01:05:01.820 in most of these abortions. Here's what happens in a third trimester abortion. 1.00

01:05:06.000 You need to answer for that before we talk about anything else. We're not going to even talk about

01:05:12.540 the 1% until you talk about the 99%. That should be the mantra, not safe, legal, and rare. 0.98

01:05:22.320 No, the mantra is we're not going to let you people dictate this conversation.

01:05:25.400 We're not going to let you hide from the difficult questions that you need to answer.

01:05:28.820 Now, very few Republicans have had the balls or wherewithal or intelligence to respond that way,

01:05:37.220 and so they lose. Now, the truth is, for me, I wouldn't compromise on abortion, 0.94

01:05:44.120 even if it really did mean losing every election from now to kingdom come. To accept child murder

01:05:49.660 is to forfeit your soul. If we are really a country, if it is true that we are now a country

01:05:54.780 where child murder is so fundamentally popular that it's impossible to win by opposing it,

01:06:01.980 then we are not a country worth saving anymore. Then who cares about this country? Why are we even

01:06:08.120 trying to save it? You're telling me that if that's the country that's fundamentally grounded

01:06:14.700 in the slaughter of children, where that's as popular as apple pie, and that's a country we're

01:06:22.720 frightened for? No, we deserve whatever destruction is coming our way in that case.

01:06:28.960 I will never accept abortion. I will never compromise on it. I would rather die. 0.99

01:06:33.300 That's where I stand. But the good news is that the whole premise is flawed.

01:06:40.800 I don't believe that it's true that this country as a whole is so enamored with abortion.

01:06:48.640 I don't believe that it's true that we are, in fact, a country of baby killers. There are some baby

01:06:55.900 killers in this country. I don't think they're the majority. The pro-life message can win in this 0.90

01:07:03.180 country, but only if we have the courage to fight for it and the intelligence to fight well.

01:07:09.560 That's where Republicans tend to fail, both in the courage and the intelligence departments.

01:07:17.680 And that is why they lose. And that is why those Republicans are today canceled.

01:07:24.400 That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Have a great day.

01:07:27.400 Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - November 08, 2023

Ep. 1259 - The 'Fact Checkers' Have Been Monitoring My Podcast And They Don't Like What They've Heard

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