Ep. 1262 - The Case That Proves Compassion For Criminals Means Cruelty To Law Abiding Citizens
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1 hour and 2 minutes
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Summary
An 18-year-old college student was killed by a career criminal in Nashville a few days ago. Tragically, this is a story we ve heard many times before, but the details about this case and how and why this violent offender was on the street will truly shock you.
Transcript
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Say in the Matt Wall Show, an 18-year-old college student was killed by a career criminal in Nashville a few days ago.
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Tragically, this is a story we've heard many times before, but the details about this case and how and why this violent offender was on the street will truly shock you.
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Two years ago, a woman named Shayla Workman was driving in her car with her two children,
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aged three years old and one-year-old, near an apartment complex in Nashville, Tennessee.
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And that's when a man in his 20s, Shaquille Taylor, opened fire.
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He shot the roof of the car at least two times as Workman drove away, and the attack was not random.
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Workman had recently testified against, quote, someone he cared about.
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Well, as Workman put it, quote, his brother was locked up for shooting at me initially in May.
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A few months later, on August 2nd, Taylor found Workman at the River Chase Apartments
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and also started shooting at her, quote, the bullet hit the top of my car and bounced off.
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Had I not been driving, it would have gone through the window and shot my son in his head.
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Authorities then arrested Taylor, and he confessed.
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Now, what happened next is not simply a scandal or a national tragedy, although it is both of those things.
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It is a breakdown of law and order that is so stark and so completely illogical in every possible respect
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that today, members of both political parties are calling for changes to the law in Tennessee before more people die.
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And those changes and more changes need to happen immediately, as we will see.
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This is a problem that exists in many states, even though nobody in the media really talks about it.
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But it should be the story that leads every newscast tonight.
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We have hit the absolute nadir of BLM-mandated equity in the judicial system, and this needs to be the end of it.
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Shaquille Taylor, after shooting at a moving vehicle with a mother and her children inside,
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apparently in retribution for that woman's testimony in a criminal proceeding,
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He didn't receive any kind of lengthy prison sentence at all, for that matter.
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Incredibly, Shaquille Taylor never even went to trial.
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Instead, in May of this year, less than two years after he started shooting at Sheila Workman's car,
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Shaquille Taylor was released from jail, and his charges were dismissed.
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Now, the judge who made that decision was Angelita Blackshear Dalton, who happens to be a Democrat
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and also happens to be the first black woman elected to a judgeship in her county.
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Why did Judge Dalton dismiss the charges against Taylor?
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Well, three court-appointed doctors testified that Taylor was supposedly too incompetent to stand trial.
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Apparently, Taylor had a kindergarten-level IQ because he developed some kind of brain infection as an infant,
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Just because someone is incompetent to stand trial,
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why does that necessarily mean that they should be released from jail?
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This guy shot at a moving vehicle with children inside.
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And on top of that, he supposedly is mentally incompetent, they're telling us.
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Doesn't this seem like precisely the kind of person we don't want roaming the streets?
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Now, as you might imagine, Shayla Workman was asking that same question
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when she noticed Shaquille Taylor was back on the streets.
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He had a low bond shooting at me and my two babies at the time,
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and you let him out because he's too incompetent?
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But you can't be too incompetent if you're admitting to shooting at everybody.
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Here's the explanation from the Associated Press, which layers on the legalese.
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As of right now, according to the AP, in order to keep somebody like Taylor locked up
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under these circumstances, Tennessee law requires that at least two doctors certify
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causes him to be a substantial risk of serious harm to himself or others.
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The doctors must also certify that there are, quote,
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no other less restrictive means than commitment.
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And apparently, in this case, doctors didn't certify all of that.
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They didn't establish, somehow, a clear link between Taylor's mental illness
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and his propensity for violence, and so the judge let him go.
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Well, it didn't take long for the consequences of the judge's decision to become very clear.
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A week ago, on Tuesday, just about six months after his charges were dismissed,
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Shaquille Taylor shot and killed an 18-year-old freshman music student
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Now, Ludwig was out walking on a track at the Edge Hill Community Memorial Gardens Park,
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just steps from the campus in what is supposed to be a nice part of town.
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The part of town, in the middle of the day, you're going for a walk.
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You don't imagine that your life is in any kind of jeopardy whatsoever.
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But Jillian Ludwig's life was in jeopardy, unbeknownst to her,
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because that is when Shaquille Taylor decided to start shooting at moving vehicles again,
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which, as we have discussed, is something that he has a well-documented history of doing.
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She somehow laid on the track for roughly an hour before anyone found her,
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even though she was very close to a police precinct,
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She was a promising young musician who loved to perform.
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Now, 18-year-old Jillian Ludwig has been senselessly killed while jogging in a park.
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Jillian's parents, Jessica and Matt, can't make sense of what happened.
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Just a few months ago, Jillian moved from her New Jersey home to Nashville
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What kind of world do we live in where a girl just taking a jog on a sunny day
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is in life-threatening danger by a man who should not have been on the streets?
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Jillian was killed when a stray bullet hit her in the head just off campus.
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Police say the shot was fired by this man, 29-year-old Shaquille Taylor.
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Surveillance video shows the suspect opening fire on a passing car.
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What's angering Jillian's parents is the fact that just last April,
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he was arrested for shooting at a woman and her two kids.
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But the charges were dropped after he was deemed incompetent to stand trial.
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managed to undersell Shaquille Taylor's criminal history.
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The shooting incident involving the mother and her two children happened two years ago,
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but it wasn't the only serious crime that Taylor committed.
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Taylor's background also includes charges for vehicle theft, robbery,
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handgun possession, and multiple aggravated assault charges.
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One affidavit said he shoved a man to the ground back in 2015 before stealing money from him.
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Taylor's most recent aggravated assault charge was in May of this year,
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So this is not someone who only broke the law once or twice.
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This is a repeat offender, a repeat violent offender.
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Tennessee's News Channel 5 took a closer look into why exactly he was allowed back on the street,
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The order from Judge Angelita Blackshear Dalton in May released Taylor after hearing from three different doctors.
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One said he would not understand courtroom discussions.
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Another said he was incompetent because of his intellectual disability and language impairment.
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A doctor also said Taylor could not be involuntarily committed because he did not seem suicidal
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and repeatedly denied any homicidal ideations or any plans to harm jail staff or other inmates.
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Okay, so the doctor says that Taylor denied having any homicidal ideation or any plan to harm jail staff or other inmates.
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But when they asked him if he had homicidal ideations, he said no, and that was good enough to effectively exonerate him.
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You shoot at someone and try to kill them, and then they ask you, are you homicidal?
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To call this outrageous would be a vast understatement.
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Now, you've heard some excerpts from the doctor's reports that Judge Dalton relied on.
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Dr. Mary Elizabeth Wood, in a forensic report submitted for the case, declared that, quote,
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In my opinion, Mr. Taylor does not possess adjudicative competence due to his intellectual disability and language impairment.
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He understands the allegations and recognizes that his liberty interests as the accused are at risk.
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There was limited ability to provide his attorney with relevant information about his case.
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He doesn't understand that he should not shoot at a woman and her children.
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So, let's just release him back on the street where he can shoot at more people.
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We're led to believe that Judge Dalton had no choice but to accept this kind of utterly insane conclusion.
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This guy who just committed attempted murder understands the accusations against him.
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But because he can't grasp some basic questions, he needs to be released.
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That's the official line, anyway, but it doesn't appear to actually be true.
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A year ago, a forensic psychologist at Vanderbilt University gave an interview with News Channel 5 in Nashville.
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And in the interview, the psychologist, a woman named Kimberly Brown, explained that legal standards involved in these decisions about competency
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also very much involved the judges' discretion.
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We offer our opinions and recommendations to the court.
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It is the judge or the jury who ultimately decides whether the person is insane at the time of the crime.
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And the judge is the one who ultimately decides whether somebody is competent or not.
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But having said that, I do appreciate that experts' opinions and reports hold significant weight.
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And most of the time, especially with competency, the judge is going to side with the evaluator.
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And if we say that they're not competent, find that the person is incompetent.
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But ultimately, that decision does rest with the judge for competency and judge or jury for the insanity.
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Because according to this psychologist, the medical experts give their opinions about whether a defendant is competent or not to stand trial.
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And although it's not stated in that clip, those same medical experts also make a determination about whether or not the defendant poses a risk to the community.
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But ultimately, those medical experts do not dictate what the judge can do.
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Judges under the law in the state of Tennessee have some discretion.
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Judges in Nashville, like judges in so many other urban centers, happen to be committed leftists,
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She also recently headlined events about empowering women and increasing, quote, diversity in the profession.
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And as it turns out, her ruling on Shaquille Taylor isn't remotely consistent with the rulings of other judges who have accepted guilty pleas from this same guy.
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We took a look at the rest of his criminal history and found two cases in which he was charged with assault and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
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And in those cases, he was able to plead guilty to lesser charges.
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So we're now looking into how Taylor was able to plead guilty several times in the past, but later deemed mentally incompetent.
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If you pull up Taylor's rap sheet, which dates back to 2015, you'll find that he's pled guilty to several serious felonies, including assault, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and other felonies as well.
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Judge Dalton was not the judge in either of those cases.
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As far as I can tell from public records, one of those cases was handled by Judge Samuel Coleman.
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But in neither of those cases was Taylor determined to be incapacitated.
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Now, to be clear, Taylor was supposedly disabled from birth due to an infection when he was born.
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So there's no conceivable reason to think that he suddenly developed a disability in 2023 that he didn't have in 2016.
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The only possible way to explain this discrepancy is that the standard that's operative in these cases is subjective to the point of incoherence.
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So criminals like Shaquille Taylor can go in front of some leftist judge who cares about equity and then get out of jail with no punishment,
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even while other judges have already determined that he is competent enough to accept guilty pleas multiple times during his lengthy career as a criminal.
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Speaking of that career, just a few weeks ago, on September 21st, Taylor was arrested in a grocery store parking lot.
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This is a whole other crime we're talking about now, just to be clear.
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And in this crime, he was arrested in a grocery store parking lot driving a Ford F-150 that had been carjacked a couple days earlier.
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Prosecutors charged him with felony auto theft.
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But then a judge let him out of jail on just a $20,000 bond.
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This is after he shot at the mother in her car and after he was caught in the stolen F-150.
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Of course, Taylor then missed his court appearance and went on to kill a college freshman.
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So the point here is that, you know, the system, they didn't just let Taylor slip through the cracks.
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No, the system went out of its way again and again and again to ensure that this violent scumbag got back onto the streets as quickly as possible.
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These are not people slipping through the cracks.
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Unsurprisingly, given these consistent failures of left-wing judges to apply the law in a reasonable and just way that values public safety, lawmakers are now suggesting that they're going to change the law.
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But they're not being very clear about how they're going to do that.
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It's been suggested, for example, that we should flag incompetent people on background checks when they go to buy guns at the store.
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Neither is making sure they have supervision and mental health care, which has also been proposed.
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When incompetent people shoot at women in their cars with their kids, then they need to be removed from society, period.
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Violent, dangerous people must be taken out of our communities and not returned to them, ever.
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This is why we used to have insane asylums, and that's why we should bring them back in a big way.
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But, you know, whether a guy like Shaquille Taylor goes to prison or an asylum, frankly, I don't care which.
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I don't care where you put him, as far as I'm concerned.
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And wherever you put him, he cannot be allowed to endanger innocent, law-abiding, contributing members of society.
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So being nice to Shaquille Taylor and trying to help him out, that is by far and away a secondary concern.
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The first concern is making sure that this guy cannot harm anybody.
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You know, what we're learning here, as everybody should realize by now, is that, quote-unquote,
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Compassion for them means cruelty to normal, law-abiding citizens.
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And I'll say that again, because it's important to understand.
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Compassion for criminals is cruelty to the community.
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Either the criminals get a harsh punishment, or they don't.
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Okay, but if the criminal doesn't get a harsh punishment,
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then most of the time, that will mean a harsh punishment is going to be doled out
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to some innocent third party that had nothing to do with anything.
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Jillian Ludwig died because the system prioritized Shaquille Taylor over Jillian Ludwig.
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Compassion for Shaquille Taylor was cruelty to Jillian Ludwig and her family.
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The system didn't want to do the ugly, brutal thing,
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which was to remove Taylor from society permanently,
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whether he understood or not, whether he was competent or not,
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whether he had a brain infection or not, doesn't matter.
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Pull him out of society, and does that mean that he's going to suffer for the rest of his life?
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Does that mean he's going to live a very, very difficult, awful life in an asylum or a prison somewhere?
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instead, it meant that we ended up with a much uglier, much more brutal thing.
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We end up with a promising young woman lying dead on the sidewalk with a hole in her skull.
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Either punish the guilty or punish the innocent.
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And to refuse the first option is to choose the second.
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Now, of course, this is not happening just in Nashville.
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We are trading the lives of decent, normal, productive people for the absolute dregs of humanity.
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Ludwig was a beautiful young lady, a musician, by all accounts, a loving daughter and sister,
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the sort of person that you want to have in your community.
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Shaquille Taylor is the sort of person nobody wants in their community.
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He is nothing but a strain on everything and everyone around him all the time.
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Objectively speaking, the world would be a better place if he was not in it.
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This is what we're doing in cities all over this country.
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So we began the show yesterday talking about the homelessness crisis, the vagrancy crisis, more like it.
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And which is, by the way, and I need to be better about this too, but this is the word we should be using, vagrant.
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Which is the word we used to use for what we now call homeless people.
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And we talked about this crisis, especially in places like San Francisco.
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But in San Francisco, as we discussed, they magically found a way to solve the problem, for a few days anyway,
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as they prepare for a visit from various political leaders and CEOs and, you know, the communist head of China.
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Well, yesterday, Gavin Newsom addressed this issue and was, well, shockingly honest.
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I know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.
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But it's also true for months and months and months prior to APEC.
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But, you know, it's okay, though, he says, because, yeah, we solved this problem.
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We cleaned up the streets because of all these fancy rich people are coming into town.
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But, you know, that doesn't mean that we don't care about everybody else because we were having conversations.
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So when it comes to cleaning up the street and cleaning the city up for your citizens, the people who live there every day,
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well, when it comes to that, you'll have conversations.
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We'll engage in all kinds of discussions and conversations and meetings and hearings and everything.
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But when it comes to, like, these rich people coming into town, well, for that, there's no conversation.
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Now, meanwhile, while we're on this subject, here's something that is likely related to it.
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Daily Wire reports, California Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom declared a state of emergency over the weekend
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after a massive fire erupted at a homeless encampment beneath a major freeway near downtown Los Angeles,
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closing the thoroughfares, now compromised structure indefinitely and impacting hundreds of thousands of commuters.
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The state, quote, this is from a press release from Newsom,
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the state is mobilizing resources and taking steps to ensure any necessary repairs are completed as soon as possible
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to minimize the impact on those traveling in and around Los Angeles.
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According to the Los Angeles Fire Department, the blaze started around 1230 a.m. on Saturday under Interstate 10
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and quickly spread to a storage facility filled with pallets, trailers, and vehicles.
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Authorities said the flames engulfed both sides of the 14th Street underneath the portion of the freeway,
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melted steel guardrails, and damaged the number of fire trucks.
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And many people have speculated, David Ortiz, public information officer for LAFD,
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reportedly said a large homeless encampment with tents and RVs dwelled underneath the freeway
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So, of course, many people have, I think, reasonably speculated that the homeless encampment
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Now, it has been declared since then that the fire was set deliberately,
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I think it's more likely that it was a deliberate fire, but not necessarily arson.
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Because you've got a refugee camp of vagrants under that bridge.
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And they're starting fires in their makeshift kitchens and so on.
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And so it still seems most likely that this fire was originated from that.
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It was a deliberate fire because they're cooking their whatever they're eating.
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And, of course, if that's the case, then they'll never tell us.
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Because the last thing Newsom needs right now is a major highway shutdown
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because of a bridge getting set on fire from the out-of-control vagrants that are all over his state.
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Politically, that's not what he wants or needs,
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which is why, if that's what happened, we'll never get the full story or the true story.
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Either way, the fact remains that the homeless problem is a crisis.
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Like, it should not be a legal option to set up an encampment under a bridge or on a sidewalk.
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It's actually, it's crazy that this is even allowed.
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Which is why, in most cases, you know, if you want to,
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if you have a tent and you want to set up your tent somewhere,
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and you're not a vagrant, there's all kinds of laws and regulations
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and there's only certain places you can go with your tent and set it up.
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And you've got to get permits and you've got to do everything else.
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Sometimes you've got to pay to access a campground and all these kinds of things.
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So, in most cases, we all understand that you can't just, like,
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Especially not in a public area where people are trying to walk by.
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Yet, we've carved out this exception for vagrants.
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And, you know, I said this yesterday on Twitter when someone, you know,
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what are the homeless people supposed to do if vagrancy is illegal?
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My answer to most things are simple because, as you know, I'm a simple man.
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And I see simple solutions to problems that most people seem to think are complicated.
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And I think most problems actually are not all that complicated.
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That doesn't mean that most solutions are easy.
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But most solutions to most problems are simple.
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And I said, well, one thing homeless people can do is they can stop doing drugs and they can get a job.
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Those are the first two steps that I would personally explore.
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And this, of course, provoked a lot of outrage on social media.
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How dare I suggest that it'd be better to not dedicate your entire life to fentanyl and heroin?
00:28:19.720
Someone says, all the homeless are doing drugs.
00:28:24.480
Someone else says, as a recovering addict, shut the eff up.
00:28:28.800
Someone else said, I know people who don't do drugs and have been actively applying for months and still nothing.
00:28:32.960
I think the first step would be to address what's causing people to do drugs and what's causing people to not work.
00:28:37.340
And someone else says, if you never did drugs and have a job, what then?
00:28:46.540
First of all, and we have to continue to establish this, the number of sober homeless people who either have jobs or are actively applying and trying to get one.
00:29:00.700
That number is probably like five in the whole country, if that many.
00:29:04.300
Okay, it's like a non-existent population of sober homeless people who are really like trying to get a job and it's just, and they're down on the luck and it's not working out.
00:29:13.800
It's like, it's, you have probably never in your life walked past a homeless person that would fall into that category.
00:29:22.000
If you are a sober, sane person, there's no legitimate reason why you should be living under a bridge or on a tent on the sidewalk.
00:29:34.280
It is very easy to afford some kind of housing.
00:29:43.560
But a sober, sane person can find something pretty easily.
00:29:48.640
Like, whoever you are watching this, you could go out right now and you could get 15 jobs in a day.
00:30:02.060
Again, they might not be great jobs, but you can get them.
00:30:05.960
And if you're starting from nothing now, and there are people, it's not that simple.
00:30:09.460
Like if you have a family and, and six kids, you know, myself, I got a mortgage.
00:30:15.260
If I lose my job tomorrow, it's not like going to McDonald's is not going to help me because it's not going to do any go.
00:30:21.040
It's not going to get even close to paying for everything I need to pay for.
00:30:25.680
I can just go out and apply for a job and take anything.
00:30:28.980
If you're on the sidewalk, though, if you're living on the sidewalk, and if you have nothing, then anything is better than nothing.
00:30:37.260
And so working at McDonald's and living in a crappy studio apartment is a huge step up.
00:30:46.260
The fact that the solution is so easy and accessible proves that the homeless, for the most part, are not normal people just down on their luck.
00:30:56.280
That's not the case for the vast majority of instances.
00:30:59.320
So if getting a job is not an option, right, if you're dealing with homeless people and I say, well, why can't they just get a job?
00:31:14.500
Well, that tells us that these people, these are people who are mentally incapacitated, either because they're insane or because drugs have fried their brains.
00:31:34.060
For a great many of these people, even getting a job at McDonald's is basically out of the question.
00:31:38.040
They are not fit even to work at McDonald's, which also means, obviously, that quote-unquote affordable housing is not a solution.
00:31:47.200
Simply giving them shelter and housing is not a solution.
00:31:51.180
These are people that, even according to the people that disagree with me, these are people who, they're unfit to work at McDonald's.
00:31:59.720
So you put them in free housing and they'll be back on the street in five minutes.
00:32:04.760
That's the reality, which is why the third step in the solution goes back to what we talked about in the opening, which is institutions, asylums.
00:32:17.700
Go to any homeless encampment anywhere in the country.
00:32:21.180
If there's anyone in that encampment who is capable of working at McDonald's, then they should be required to do that.
00:32:39.120
Anyone who can't do that needs to be institutionalized.
00:32:43.820
Immediately, round it up and put it in an institution, put in an asylum for people who are not mentally fit for society.
00:32:56.800
You round them up and you put them in institutions, put them in asylums, all of them.
00:33:08.220
These people exist and so they can either be in asylums, which is what we used to do, or they can be on the streets.
00:33:18.220
When you're dealing with a difficult, though not complicated, when you're dealing with a difficult problem, many times the choices are not good.
00:33:31.840
There is no choice where everything is great and there are roses growing everything and unicorns are flying in the sky.
00:33:39.800
And so when it comes to the homeless problem, there's really two options.
00:33:44.960
They can be on the street, all over the street, all over our cities, setting bridges on fire and taking dumps on the sidewalk.
00:33:55.900
And if you're saying, well, we don't want to round them up and put them in asylum, it's a horrible thing to say.
00:33:58.800
Okay, then what you are saying is you'd rather have them on the street.
00:34:01.760
And don't tell me that, no, no, no, I want a third option.
00:34:07.100
So I don't want to hear about your third option.
00:34:08.560
Round them up, put them in asylums, or you leave them on the street.
00:34:16.560
That's why we didn't have homeless all over the street.
00:34:18.560
Now we don't have asylums anymore and they're all over the street.
00:34:22.920
The mathematical equation is not a, it's one that even I can solve.
00:34:30.900
New York Daily News reports, responding to a swell in anti-Semitic hate crimes,
00:34:34.220
New York State will deploy more state cops to the Federal Joint Terrorism Task Force
00:34:38.540
office in New York, according to Governor Kathy Hokule.
00:34:42.820
Hokule, a Buffalo Democrat, directed $2.5 million to the New York State Police to support
00:34:47.140
its plan to embed an additional 10 investigators in the FBI's Counterterrorism Task Force office
00:34:56.160
Obviously locking up people who commit violent crimes, anyone targeting Jewish people violently,
00:35:00.940
obviously they all need to go to prison, so that part makes sense.
00:35:12.420
Also, we're very focused on the data we're collecting from surveillance efforts.
00:35:20.360
And we have launched an effort to be able to counter some of the negativity
00:35:26.480
and reach out to people when we see hate speech being spoken about on online platforms.
00:35:33.840
Our media analysis, our social media analysis unit, has ramped up its monitoring of sites
00:35:40.780
to catch incitement to violence, direct threats to others.
00:35:45.280
And all this is in response to our desire, our strong commitment to ensure that not only do New Yorkers
00:36:00.740
Of course, it's, you know, they can't simply say, okay, if there's violent hate crimes,
00:36:06.940
and I don't like the hate crime category, period, in the first place.
00:36:10.260
I don't think we need it, but as long as we have it, they can't simply say what they should say,
00:36:15.480
which is that if people are committing hate, actual crimes, like physical crimes against somebody else
00:36:20.940
based on their ethnicity or religion or for any reason,
00:36:25.920
we're going to find those people and punish them and make sure they're not able to hurt anybody else.
00:36:34.440
But, and they say that, sort of, and then they don't do it, but then they can never stop there.
00:36:41.080
In fact, it's not just that it doesn't stop there.
00:36:42.620
It's that all of that is just the pretense for what they really want to do, because they don't care.
00:36:47.440
You think Kathy Hochul cares about violent crime at all, whether it's against Jews or anybody else?
00:36:54.640
These are all sociopaths anyway, for the most part, that are running the country in most of these states.
00:37:03.720
And what they really want to get to is what she just said there, is, well, yes, we want to stop violent crime,
00:37:13.540
And so stopping hate means effectively stopping speech.
00:37:17.620
It means punishing speech, and that's what she's describing there,
00:37:20.460
which is the bit about monitoring social media for hate speech and countering negativity.
00:37:30.640
Okay, it shouldn't need to be said that countering negativity is not the government's job.
00:37:37.220
Negativity, positivity, how people are feeling, their attitude, their tone, that's not the government's job.
00:37:54.080
If they have a tone I don't like, they're going to hear about it from me.
00:38:00.740
Government, they're not our parents, and so we don't need them worried about,
00:38:09.200
There's no law against having a tone you don't like, even a hateful tone.
00:38:15.020
But the real, you get into the real nitty gritty with the last thing she said there,
00:38:18.980
which is that people have the right to not only be safe, but to feel safe.
00:38:25.920
And once again, you have the correct statement, which is people have the right to be safe.
00:38:32.700
And citizens, law-abiding citizens in a civilized society should have that expectation that they can be safe.
00:38:41.800
So that's the correct part, but then that's only a pretense for the next part,
00:38:46.120
which is where we go off the rails and she says, not only be safe, but feel safe.
00:38:52.920
Now, you're right about the first part, which is the part she doesn't really even care about.
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No, you don't have, I mean, well, I guess you have the right to feel however you want to feel.
00:39:10.380
No one can stop you from feeling a certain way.
00:39:13.560
But you don't have the right to have your feelings protected.
00:39:27.160
But your feelings are, I guess the point is that your feelings exist entirely outside of the realm of rights.
00:39:34.720
Rights have nothing to do with your feelings one way or another.
00:39:44.700
And whether you feel safe or not, if you are safe,
00:39:47.440
and the government is doing its basic job to protect its citizens, to enforce the law,
00:39:52.100
if they're doing that, then they've done their job.
00:39:55.540
And whether that translates over to your feelings is irrelevant from a legal perspective.
00:40:05.900
There's nothing we can do about that one way or another.
00:40:10.140
It's your responsibility to, if you want to be a well-adjusted person,
00:40:13.620
it's your responsibility to bring your feelings in line with reality.
00:40:16.940
And all that really matters and all the government should care about is the reality.
00:40:29.680
They shouldn't be focused on the feelings at all, obviously.
00:40:33.420
All right, here's an interesting, before we get to the next segment,
00:40:34.980
here's an interesting case from the New York Post.
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A Grammy-nominated gospel singer was nearly booted off a Delta flight
00:40:41.900
when she refused to stop performing her new single,
00:40:44.300
which she insisted was just her doing what the Lord is telling me to do.
00:40:52.280
featured vocalist in the 2024 Grammy-nominated album The Maverick Way,
00:40:56.600
shared a video of her attempt to sing on the plane.
00:41:00.860
And then, so this is, she tries to sing on the plane, perform.
00:41:05.060
Flight attendant steps in, tells her to shut up and sit down.
00:41:08.620
She records this interaction because she thinks that she's the good guy in it, obviously.
00:41:32.060
I was like, you know, I haven't done this in a while.
00:41:41.000
I'm not enjoying it, so I'm asking you, can you be quiet?
00:41:50.300
Are you willing and able to be quiet right now?
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If you're not able to follow my instruction, you will not be taking this flight.
00:42:17.360
There's so many things I love about that, that whole video.
00:42:20.000
The first one is that she's asked to sit down on the plane, and she says, no, it's okay.
00:42:27.160
So she thinks that that's some sort of, maybe she can just walk into the cockpit.
00:42:37.940
And, but my favorite part is, which is like, it's one of those things that's so great and
00:42:42.300
funny and awkward that you couldn't possibly script it, that when she's being told to
00:42:47.040
shut up, she turns to the other passengers and says, what do you guys think?
00:42:52.600
And everyone's just looking like, she was expecting everyone to say,
00:42:56.480
yeah, keep singing, sing what's in your heart, and nobody wants to hear.
00:43:02.440
You know, she's lucky that I wasn't sitting there, because I would have said, no, I'm with
00:43:08.160
I'm totally on the flight attendant's side here.
00:43:09.800
Because to begin with, like, if I could even consider being on the singer's side in this
00:43:18.800
dispute, which I wouldn't consider it, but to get close to that point, well, like, that
00:43:26.960
goes out the window the moment you find out that she was trying to sing her own single.
00:43:31.980
So if you're going to force a captive audience to listen to you sing, then at least sing a
00:43:40.840
classic, sing something that everybody knows and can sing along to.
00:43:45.420
And if you're going the gospel Christian route, then sing, like, Amazing Grace.
00:43:54.200
But you're trying to sing a song that nobody knows and nobody wants to know, which is your
00:44:02.240
But really, no matter what you're singing, this is, and I made this point before, because
00:44:05.560
we've seen other videos where people launch into these, what was it recently?
00:44:10.280
There was some kind of musical, I think there was some kind of, like, musical theater troupe
00:44:15.180
They started performing a whole musical number.
00:44:21.720
You're trapped in this metal tube flying through the sky at 500 miles an hour.
00:44:29.860
And they're performing musical theater without your consent.
00:44:38.920
So you see these kinds of videos, and it really doesn't matter what they're singing.
00:44:42.160
This is the ultimate definition of a captive audience.
00:44:50.280
No one gets on a plane hoping for a musical performance.
00:45:01.680
Just forcing them to endure that is, I mean, I think it should be a federal crime.
00:45:07.460
I think nothing happened to her because, you know, she went with the program eventually.
00:45:12.200
But I would be, especially considering all the things that are a crime on a plane, I would
00:45:18.200
be totally in favor of making that a federal crime, which is not a surprise.
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So I've already dealt with a lot of the was Walsh wrong comments during the five headlines.
00:46:33.920
This was a message that was sent to me actually.
00:46:35.320
It says, Matt, I agree with you about most things, but when it comes to issues like poverty
00:46:38.680
and homelessness, you tend to lapse into pull yourself up by your bootstraps boomerisms.
00:46:45.860
Conservatives refuse to recognize that, which is why we lose.
00:46:52.300
Like, I've already kind of dealt with this objection.
00:46:54.320
I think either, you know, either someone is capable of taking charge of their own life
00:46:59.820
And if they are capable, then we should expect and demand that they do so.
00:47:04.140
And if they aren't capable, then these are people who are not fit to be wandering around
00:47:10.560
They just shouldn't be, they, if you are not responsible for your own actions, then you
00:47:29.660
You know, either the homeless are capable of being contributing members of society or they're
00:47:33.420
And if they're not, then they need to be segregated and institutionalized like we used to do.
00:47:38.180
Um, now with that said, once we have accounted for the truly mentally incompetent people out
00:47:47.560
there, the clinically insane, uh, people whose brains have been destroyed, uh, hopelessly
00:47:52.620
and permanently by, by chronic drug use, which by the way, is a lot of this too.
00:47:56.500
You know, we talk about mental illness among the homeless and there's, you know, there's
00:48:01.820
You know, schizophrenia and so on, you know, those kinds of, uh, very serious, uh, mental
00:48:07.420
afflictions, but also a lot of what we call mental illness, you know, maybe that word
00:48:13.380
applies, maybe it doesn't, but it is kind of self-inflicted.
00:48:16.760
Uh, these are people that have just been poisoning themselves with drugs forever.
00:48:20.320
And now they're, and now they just, they're zombies.
00:48:23.480
Um, so once we've accounted for all of that and we're kind of have like everybody else in
00:48:30.860
society, um, then at that point, the pull yourself up by your bootstraps message, although
00:48:38.800
it gets a bad rap is not only correct, but it's also like the only helpful and constructive
00:48:49.340
So anytime you say that to someone, uh, pull yourself up by the bootstraps.
00:48:55.540
I don't think I've, I don't think I've verbatim said that phrase cause it's a cliche, but yeah,
00:49:00.400
that is my message again to everyone who is not totally mentally incompetent to everybody
00:49:08.660
A big part of my message is take charge of your own life.
00:49:17.280
If you're in a spot you don't want to be in work every second of the day to get yourself
00:49:21.780
out of that spot, i.e. pull yourself up by a bootstraps.
00:49:26.560
And I think that's, that's not only the correct thing, but it's what, what, what's the other
00:49:39.000
It's the only helpful thing to tell people, because if you're not saying that,
00:49:43.420
yes, then you're telling them that they're helpless and, uh, and, and that they don't
00:49:50.500
And I know that in this society where, where we are allergic to the very concept of accountability
00:50:01.940
Um, so I know in this society with that kind of, with that kind of cultural sort of wiring,
00:50:06.760
um, we tend to think that it's, that it is incredibly cruel to tell people that they
00:50:15.480
And we, we, we, we think that the most compassionate thing we can say to someone is that they are
00:50:20.240
helpless, little flowers, little delicate flowers that can't do anything for themselves.
00:50:29.700
That, that is an incredibly cruel message, lacking in compassion.
00:50:36.400
Um, because what is someone supposed to do with that?
00:50:40.340
Um, I can tell you, like anyone else, I've had plenty of things in my life that I've struggled
00:50:46.860
I've had situations in life that I've, you know, my own obstacles and like anybody else,
00:50:54.640
And, um, I don't want anyone coming up to me and making excuses for me, you know, on my
00:51:01.900
behalf or saying, well, you, you, you can't handle this.
00:51:06.360
You know, just, you can give up and you'd be forgiven.
00:51:15.620
And I think if anyone does want to hear that message, well, that only shows all the more
00:51:22.680
Sort of the, the, the more that someone recoils at a message of self-reliance, the more obvious
00:51:35.440
It's, it is, uh, it is in fact what people need to hear.
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A high school English teacher in Missouri named Brianna Coppedge was placed on leave earlier
00:52:22.240
this month and quickly resigned from her position after, as the media reports put it, she was
00:52:29.640
And of course the word outed is doing a lot of work here.
00:52:35.480
And she outed herself when she decided to engage in this behavior on the internet where
00:52:40.040
anyone in the world can see it for a small subscription fee.
00:52:43.220
I must again remind everyone that you have not been outed when people simply notice what
00:52:48.100
you yourself have decided to post on the internet.
00:52:50.580
As soon as something is on the internet, it is out.
00:52:57.980
And if it was posted by you, then you, again, outed yourself.
00:53:02.440
That's not how Brianna Coppedge sees it, though.
00:53:08.940
A former teacher in the metro speaks only to locally to four about being outed for bearing
00:53:16.620
When that Franklin County woman's OnlyFans page was found, she was pulled from the classroom.
00:53:23.080
And tonight, only our Shoshana Stahl has the first interview with a teacher turned entrepreneurial
00:53:30.140
It's just like those connections that I'm going to miss.
00:53:33.220
Brianna Coppedge started teaching five years ago.
00:53:36.340
Being there for students, like celebrating milestones with them.
00:53:39.860
For the last two years and until resigning earlier this month, she was at St.
00:53:44.440
Clare High School as an English teacher and one reason for her departure to make more
00:53:49.940
She started an OnlyFans page, a site that's growing popular across many generations.
00:53:55.360
On OnlyFans, some offer premium content to build connections with subscribers, such as
00:54:00.860
inspirational speeches, photos and even adult content.
00:54:11.580
The local CBS affiliate is pretending for some reason that people go to OnlyFans for
00:54:19.220
Maybe that's the excuse the reporter's husband gave her when she found out about his subscription
00:54:26.700
I'm just subscribed for the inspirational speeches.
00:54:29.660
It's kind of the new generation's version of I only read Playboy for the articles.
00:54:34.920
Or maybe they're just randomly lying about OnlyFans because the media reflexively lies about
00:54:38.540
everything and can't help itself at this point.
00:54:40.760
In any case, here's what Brianna has to say for herself.
00:54:45.900
Missouri is one of the lowest states in the nation for teacher pay.
00:54:49.100
And then the district I was working for is also one of the lowest paying districts in
00:54:54.940
Coppedge says her yearly teaching salary was $42,000.
00:54:59.360
When she started OnlyFans, she avoided showing her face because of her job as a teacher.
00:55:04.940
A lot of people asking, why don't you just get like a part-time job somewhere?
00:55:12.120
Like, we don't get to stop working when we leave the school day.
00:55:16.340
We don't get to grade all 130 students' papers during the day.
00:55:22.380
So we take that work home with us on the evenings, on the weekends.
00:55:25.960
So getting a second job is just really not possible.
00:55:30.380
The St. Clair School District said in a statement it was notified of the posts by an individual
00:55:36.940
The statement goes on to say the district immediately retained legal counsel for assistance
00:55:40.920
due to the sensitivity of the matter and to protect the integrity of the investigation.
00:55:45.440
Our handbook policies are very vague and they just say something about, like, represent yourself
00:56:01.200
I suppose there could be some gray area in the represent yourself well category.
00:56:05.260
But when you start selling your body on the internet, you have definitely crossed over
00:56:09.480
Not just crossed it, but you've trampled it into dust.
00:56:12.280
Becoming an OnlyFans prostitute is the very definition of not representing yourself well.
00:56:16.540
If the district needs to clarify that section of the handbook, then they should do it by
00:56:20.340
adding a picture of Brianna Coppedge, a fully clothed picture, just to be clear.
00:56:26.120
Brianna defends her decision to become, as the news anchor puts it, an entrepreneurial porn
00:56:31.260
star by saying that, well, she makes a lot of money doing it, which I'm sure she does.
00:56:37.300
But the problem is that I make a lot of money doing this is the worst possible moral justification
00:56:45.400
Many of the bad things people do, they do because they make money doing it.
00:56:51.780
If someone accuses you of engaging in objectionable and immoral behavior, and you respond, but I
00:56:57.780
make a lot of money doing it, they generally aren't going to say, oh, okay, well, never mind
00:57:02.920
I mean, obviously, it's totally acceptable in that case.
00:57:04.940
I just want to make sure that you weren't behaving in a disgusting and shameful way
00:57:08.980
But as long as you're making money, then never mind.
00:57:14.640
And that's because we know you're doing it for money and attention and validation, but
00:57:22.440
Now, if this story sounds familiar, it's because a version of this story plays out seemingly
00:57:27.700
Before Brianna Coppedge, it was a woman named Annie Knight who made some headlines after getting
00:57:31.840
fired from her corporate marketing job after starting an OnlyFans page.
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Before her, it was a Kristen McDonald, who's the special needs teaching assistant who was
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fired after her OnlyFans activities were discovered.
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And it's not just teachers and employees in the corporate world getting fired for this.
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A while ago, a female mechanic at a Honda dealership in Indiana was also fired from her job when
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she began dabbling in the entrepreneurial porn business.
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And for the most part, these women, when they're fired, are treated as martyrs by the media.
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It goes without saying, or should go without saying, that all of these women deserve to
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Your employer is concerned not just with your behavior at work, but also with your behavior
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outside of work if it reflects poorly on them or causes difficulties in the workplace.
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Your employer has a right to take those kinds of things into consideration, which means that
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if you become a prostitute in your free time, you should absolutely lose your job.
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You know, most people don't want to work with or around prostitutes.
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And your employer doesn't want to employ prostitutes.
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It's disgraceful and dirty and disgusting and embarrassing.
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This is obviously especially the case if you're a teacher, but it applies no matter your occupation.
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And yes, as established, OnlyFans is prostitution.
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As I've been arguing for years, all pornography is prostitution.
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To be a prostitute is to sell your body for money.
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And that's what everyone in the porn industry is doing.
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It's what a hooker on the street corner is doing.
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There is no moral difference or even any significant practical difference between any of these categories.
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But with OnlyFans, as opposed to what I guess we must call traditional internet porn,
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You know, that OnlyFans is like the most direct parallel with being a hooker on street corner.
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Which is also why OnlyFans should obviously be banned.
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But if we have to go about this incrementally, then OnlyFans is a very good place to start.
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You know, the tragedy of OnlyFans, and this is not to say that these women are victims of their own choices,
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But the tragedy is that nearly all of these OnlyFans prostitutes would not be prostitutes if OnlyFans didn't exist.
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These, like, soccer moms and English teachers and corporate professionals,
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they wouldn't ever even consider going out to the street corner to turn tricks,
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nor would they go looking for a gig at the strip club down the street.
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What they're doing on the site is morally and substantively and should be considered legally the same,
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because there's no real distinction, but the presence of the screen,
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the fact that it's all done in cyberspace makes it feel different.
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You know, it allows prostitutes to feel like they are not prostitutes.
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And that's why they're invariably shocked when they end up getting fired from their respectable jobs.
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They really bought into the lie of OnlyFans and of the internet pornography business as a whole
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and believed that because they were doing this on the internet,
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OnlyFans makes a life of prostitution accessible for people who would never consider it otherwise.
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Now, that's not to say that Brianna and all the Brianna Coppages of the world
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would be virtuous, chaste, dignified women if not for OnlyFans.
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It's only to say that they would not be call girls whoring themselves out for $10 a month.
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OnlyFans makes that possible in a unique way, which is why it should not be allowed to exist.
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There is no counterbalancing good being done by it.
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Prostitution is already illegal in 49 out of 50 states.
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The question is whether there should be this carve-out, this special privilege granted to internet prostitution.
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In fact, internet prostitution has a more deleterious effect because of its accessibility and its ubiquity.
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Because it's the one kind of prostitution that a bored soccer mom would actually engage in.
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So if we're only banning one type of prostitution, the in-person or internet variety, obviously it should be the latter.
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But instead we ban the former and the latter is legal and virtually unregulated.