The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1262 - The Case That Proves Compassion For Criminals Means Cruelty To Law Abiding Citizens

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00:01:49.100 Two years ago, a woman named Shayla Workman was driving in her car with her two children,

00:01:54.820 aged three years old and one-year-old, near an apartment complex in Nashville, Tennessee.

00:01:58.900 And that's when a man in his 20s, Shaquille Taylor, opened fire.

00:02:03.080 He shot the roof of the car at least two times as Workman drove away, and the attack was not random.

00:02:08.600 In fact, the motive couldn't have been clear.

00:02:11.040 Workman had recently testified against, quote, someone he cared about.

00:02:14.560 And what was that man's crime?

00:02:16.600 Well, as Workman put it, quote, his brother was locked up for shooting at me initially in May.

00:02:22.060 A few months later, on August 2nd, Taylor found Workman at the River Chase Apartments

00:02:26.660 and also started shooting at her, quote, the bullet hit the top of my car and bounced off.

00:02:31.020 Had I not been driving, it would have gone through the window and shot my son in his head.

00:02:36.220 Authorities then arrested Taylor, and he confessed.

00:02:38.320 Now, what happened next is not simply a scandal or a national tragedy, although it is both of those things.

00:02:47.180 It is a breakdown of law and order that is so stark and so completely illogical in every possible respect

00:02:54.480 that today, members of both political parties are calling for changes to the law in Tennessee before more people die.

00:03:01.340 And those changes and more changes need to happen immediately, as we will see.

00:03:06.100 This is a problem that exists in many states, even though nobody in the media really talks about it.

00:03:11.560 But it should be the story that leads every newscast tonight.

00:03:14.560 We have hit the absolute nadir of BLM-mandated equity in the judicial system, and this needs to be the end of it.

00:03:22.800 It just does.

00:03:23.740 So let's get into the details here.

00:03:26.200 Shaquille Taylor, after shooting at a moving vehicle with a mother and her children inside,

00:03:31.080 apparently in retribution for that woman's testimony in a criminal proceeding,

00:03:34.480 did not go to prison for the rest of his life.

00:03:37.740 He didn't receive any kind of lengthy prison sentence at all, for that matter.

00:03:41.700 In fact, he received no prison sentence.

00:03:44.760 Incredibly, Shaquille Taylor never even went to trial.

00:03:48.640 Instead, in May of this year, less than two years after he started shooting at Sheila Workman's car,

00:03:53.680 Shaquille Taylor was released from jail, and his charges were dismissed.

00:03:57.640 Now, the judge who made that decision was Angelita Blackshear Dalton, who happens to be a Democrat 1.00

00:04:03.820 and also happens to be the first black woman elected to a judgeship in her county. 0.54

00:04:08.340 Why did Judge Dalton dismiss the charges against Taylor?

00:04:11.460 Well, three court-appointed doctors testified that Taylor was supposedly too incompetent to stand trial.

00:04:19.160 Apparently, Taylor had a kindergarten-level IQ because he developed some kind of brain infection as an infant,

00:04:24.760 and so, case dismissed.

00:04:28.380 Now, wait a minute, you might say.

00:04:31.400 Just because someone is incompetent to stand trial,

00:04:34.460 why does that necessarily mean that they should be released from jail?

00:04:38.400 This guy shot at a moving vehicle with children inside.

00:04:42.500 And on top of that, he supposedly is mentally incompetent, they're telling us.

00:04:46.560 Doesn't this seem like precisely the kind of person we don't want roaming the streets?

00:04:51.860 Now, as you might imagine, Shayla Workman was asking that same question

00:04:55.960 when she noticed Shaquille Taylor was back on the streets.

00:04:59.400 Here's what she told local reporters, quote,

00:05:01.420 He had a low bond shooting at me and my two babies at the time,

00:05:04.300 and you let him out because he's too incompetent?

00:05:06.680 But you can't be too incompetent if you're admitting to shooting at everybody.

00:05:10.880 So, how do we square that circle exactly?

00:05:14.560 Here's the explanation from the Associated Press, which layers on the legalese.

00:05:17.820 As of right now, according to the AP, in order to keep somebody like Taylor locked up

00:05:21.820 under these circumstances, Tennessee law requires that at least two doctors certify

00:05:26.080 that Taylor's mental illness, quote,

00:05:27.900 causes him to be a substantial risk of serious harm to himself or others.

00:05:32.420 The doctors must also certify that there are, quote,

00:05:34.880 no other less restrictive means than commitment.

00:05:38.260 And apparently, in this case, doctors didn't certify all of that.

00:05:42.620 They didn't establish, somehow, a clear link between Taylor's mental illness

00:05:47.640 and his propensity for violence, and so the judge let him go.

00:05:52.120 Supposedly, the judge had no other option.

00:05:55.260 Well, it didn't take long for the consequences of the judge's decision to become very clear.

00:06:00.260 A week ago, on Tuesday, just about six months after his charges were dismissed,

00:06:04.320 Shaquille Taylor shot and killed an 18-year-old freshman music student

00:06:07.660 at Belmont University named Jillian Ludwig.

00:06:10.440 Now, Ludwig was out walking on a track at the Edge Hill Community Memorial Gardens Park,

00:06:16.100 just steps from the campus in what is supposed to be a nice part of town.

00:06:19.960 The part of town, in the middle of the day, you're going for a walk.

00:06:23.500 You don't imagine that your life is in any kind of jeopardy whatsoever.

00:06:28.280 But Jillian Ludwig's life was in jeopardy, unbeknownst to her,

00:06:32.480 because that is when Shaquille Taylor decided to start shooting at moving vehicles again,

00:06:36.340 which, as we have discussed, is something that he has a well-documented history of doing.

00:06:42.000 And one of those bullets hit Jillian Ludwig.

00:06:45.320 She somehow laid on the track for roughly an hour before anyone found her,

00:06:48.940 even though she was very close to a police precinct,

00:06:52.240 and shortly afterwards, she was dead.

00:06:54.720 Watch.

00:06:54.980 She was a promising young musician who loved to perform.

00:07:04.800 Now, 18-year-old Jillian Ludwig has been senselessly killed while jogging in a park.

00:07:11.460 Jillian's parents, Jessica and Matt, can't make sense of what happened.

00:07:15.880 Just a few months ago, Jillian moved from her New Jersey home to Nashville

00:07:20.060 to study music business at Belmont University.

00:07:24.320 What kind of world do we live in where a girl just taking a jog on a sunny day 1.00

00:07:28.660 is in life-threatening danger by a man who should not have been on the streets?

00:07:34.580 Jillian was killed when a stray bullet hit her in the head just off campus.

00:07:40.040 She died two days later in the hospital.

00:07:42.880 Police say the shot was fired by this man, 29-year-old Shaquille Taylor.

00:07:47.860 Surveillance video shows the suspect opening fire on a passing car.

00:07:52.880 What's angering Jillian's parents is the fact that just last April,

00:07:56.040 he was arrested for shooting at a woman and her two kids.

00:07:59.800 But the charges were dropped after he was deemed incompetent to stand trial.

00:08:05.620 That report, and most reports on this case,

00:08:08.040 managed to undersell Shaquille Taylor's criminal history.

00:08:11.060 The shooting incident involving the mother and her two children happened two years ago,

00:08:14.560 but it wasn't the only serious crime that Taylor committed.

00:08:17.140 According to local news channel WSMV4, quote,

00:08:20.980 Taylor's background also includes charges for vehicle theft, robbery,

00:08:24.720 handgun possession, and multiple aggravated assault charges.

00:08:27.540 One affidavit said he shoved a man to the ground back in 2015 before stealing money from him.

00:08:32.260 Taylor's most recent aggravated assault charge was in May of this year,

00:08:35.600 but the DA's office did not prosecute.

00:08:38.500 So this is not someone who only broke the law once or twice.

00:08:41.480 This is a repeat offender, a repeat violent offender.

00:08:46.680 Tennessee's News Channel 5 took a closer look into why exactly he was allowed back on the street,

00:08:52.200 and this is what they report.

00:08:53.400 Watch.

00:08:54.400 The order from Judge Angelita Blackshear Dalton in May released Taylor after hearing from three different doctors.

00:09:00.780 One said he would not understand courtroom discussions.

00:09:04.680 Another said he was incompetent because of his intellectual disability and language impairment.

00:09:09.940 A doctor also said Taylor could not be involuntarily committed because he did not seem suicidal

00:09:14.900 and repeatedly denied any homicidal ideations or any plans to harm jail staff or other inmates.

00:09:22.780 Okay, so the doctor says that Taylor denied having any homicidal ideation or any plan to harm jail staff or other inmates.

00:09:31.900 Just to remind you, he tried to kill someone.

00:09:35.240 Like, he actually did that in real life.

00:09:36.900 He shot at a person.

00:09:38.080 But when they asked him if he had homicidal ideations, he said no, and that was good enough to effectively exonerate him.

00:09:46.380 This is how the system works now, apparently.

00:09:48.560 You shoot at someone and try to kill them, and then they ask you, are you homicidal? 0.99

00:09:53.160 Well, no, I'm not. 1.00

00:09:54.040 Well, okay then.

00:09:55.460 Never mind.

00:09:57.280 To call this outrageous would be a vast understatement.

00:10:01.900 Now, you've heard some excerpts from the doctor's reports that Judge Dalton relied on.

00:10:06.320 Here's one of them in more detail.

00:10:07.480 Dr. Mary Elizabeth Wood, in a forensic report submitted for the case, declared that, quote,

00:10:12.940 In my opinion, Mr. Taylor does not possess adjudicative competence due to his intellectual disability and language impairment.

00:10:19.020 He understands the allegations and recognizes that his liberty interests as the accused are at risk.

00:10:24.480 He was easily confused with basic questions.

00:10:27.420 There was limited ability to provide his attorney with relevant information about his case.

00:10:32.180 Poor guy.

00:10:33.000 He's confused.

00:10:33.740 He doesn't understand that he should not shoot at a woman and her children. 0.99

00:10:37.820 So, let's just release him back on the street where he can shoot at more people. 0.97

00:10:44.040 We're led to believe that Judge Dalton had no choice but to accept this kind of utterly insane conclusion. 0.89

00:10:52.380 This guy who just committed attempted murder understands the accusations against him.

00:10:57.200 But because he can't grasp some basic questions, he needs to be released.

00:11:01.720 And there's just no other option, we're told.

00:11:05.400 That's the official line, anyway, but it doesn't appear to actually be true.

00:11:08.560 A year ago, a forensic psychologist at Vanderbilt University gave an interview with News Channel 5 in Nashville.

00:11:14.140 And in the interview, the psychologist, a woman named Kimberly Brown, explained that legal standards involved in these decisions about competency

00:11:23.260 also very much involved the judges' discretion.

00:11:27.180 They have a lot of discretion in this case.

00:11:29.200 Let's listen to her explain it.

00:11:31.220 We offer our opinions and recommendations to the court.

00:11:34.340 It is the judge or the jury who ultimately decides whether the person is insane at the time of the crime.

00:11:40.940 And the judge is the one who ultimately decides whether somebody is competent or not.

00:11:45.020 But having said that, I do appreciate that experts' opinions and reports hold significant weight.

00:11:52.700 And most of the time, especially with competency, the judge is going to side with the evaluator.

00:11:59.380 And if we say that they're not competent, find that the person is incompetent.

00:12:04.180 But ultimately, that decision does rest with the judge for competency and judge or jury for the insanity.

00:12:11.140 Well, that makes a little more sense.

00:12:13.060 Because according to this psychologist, the medical experts give their opinions about whether a defendant is competent or not to stand trial.

00:12:18.640 And although it's not stated in that clip, those same medical experts also make a determination about whether or not the defendant poses a risk to the community.

00:12:25.200 But ultimately, those medical experts do not dictate what the judge can do.

00:12:29.840 Judges under the law in the state of Tennessee have some discretion.

00:12:34.700 Could that be related to the problem here?

00:12:36.500 Well, let's see.

00:12:37.280 Judges in Nashville, like judges in so many other urban centers, happen to be committed leftists,

00:12:42.020 who are mainly interested in equity.

00:12:44.740 Dalton is no exception.

00:12:45.660 As I mentioned, she's a Democrat.

00:12:46.820 She also recently headlined events about empowering women and increasing, quote, diversity in the profession.

00:12:53.400 And as it turns out, her ruling on Shaquille Taylor isn't remotely consistent with the rulings of other judges who have accepted guilty pleas from this same guy.

00:13:03.660 Recently.

00:13:04.880 Watch.

00:13:05.360 We took a look at the rest of his criminal history and found two cases in which he was charged with assault and contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

00:13:14.060 And in those cases, he was able to plead guilty to lesser charges.

00:13:17.880 So we're now looking into how Taylor was able to plead guilty several times in the past, but later deemed mentally incompetent.

00:13:25.360 Okay, so did you catch that?

00:13:28.340 If you pull up Taylor's rap sheet, which dates back to 2015, you'll find that he's pled guilty to several serious felonies, including assault, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, and other felonies as well.

00:13:39.620 Those felonies were adjudicated back in 2016.

00:13:41.960 Judge Dalton was not the judge in either of those cases.

00:13:45.000 As far as I can tell from public records, one of those cases was handled by Judge Samuel Coleman.

00:13:49.120 The other was handled by Judge Casey Moreland.

00:13:51.340 Both of those judges are Democrats as well.

00:13:53.380 But in neither of those cases was Taylor determined to be incapacitated.

00:13:57.460 So his guilty plea took effect.

00:14:00.980 Now, to be clear, Taylor was supposedly disabled from birth due to an infection when he was born.

00:14:05.660 So there's no conceivable reason to think that he suddenly developed a disability in 2023 that he didn't have in 2016.

00:14:12.500 The only possible way to explain this discrepancy is that the standard that's operative in these cases is subjective to the point of incoherence.

00:14:22.820 So criminals like Shaquille Taylor can go in front of some leftist judge who cares about equity and then get out of jail with no punishment,

00:14:30.580 even while other judges have already determined that he is competent enough to accept guilty pleas multiple times during his lengthy career as a criminal.

00:14:39.400 Speaking of that career, just a few weeks ago, on September 21st, Taylor was arrested in a grocery store parking lot.

00:14:48.100 This is a whole other crime we're talking about now, just to be clear.

00:14:51.780 And in this crime, he was arrested in a grocery store parking lot driving a Ford F-150 that had been carjacked a couple days earlier.

00:14:58.540 Prosecutors charged him with felony auto theft.

00:15:01.400 But then a judge let him out of jail on just a $20,000 bond.

00:15:05.840 This is after he shot at the mother in her car and after he was caught in the stolen F-150.

00:15:14.520 Of course, Taylor then missed his court appearance and went on to kill a college freshman.

00:15:19.860 So the point here is that, you know, the system, they didn't just let Taylor slip through the cracks. 0.98

00:15:25.820 No, the system went out of its way again and again and again to ensure that this violent scumbag got back onto the streets as quickly as possible. 0.90

00:15:38.820 These are not people slipping through the cracks. 0.99

00:15:41.500 They are pushed through the cracks.

00:15:43.140 They are guided through the cracks.

00:15:45.340 Unsurprisingly, given these consistent failures of left-wing judges to apply the law in a reasonable and just way that values public safety, lawmakers are now suggesting that they're going to change the law.

00:15:59.340 But they're not being very clear about how they're going to do that.

00:16:02.240 It's been suggested, for example, that we should flag incompetent people on background checks when they go to buy guns at the store.

00:16:07.760 But that's not really going to solve anything.

00:16:10.900 Neither is making sure they have supervision and mental health care, which has also been proposed.

00:16:15.360 When incompetent people shoot at women in their cars with their kids, then they need to be removed from society, period.

00:16:23.740 Violent, dangerous people must be taken out of our communities and not returned to them, ever. 0.56

00:16:31.180 That is the only solution.

00:16:33.140 There is no other.

00:16:34.060 This is why we used to have insane asylums, and that's why we should bring them back in a big way. 1.00

00:16:41.100 But, you know, whether a guy like Shaquille Taylor goes to prison or an asylum, frankly, I don't care which.

00:16:46.920 Just get him out of the community.

00:16:48.360 I don't care where you put him, as far as I'm concerned. 0.89

00:16:52.300 Throw him in a cave somewhere, for all I care. 0.70

00:16:54.400 Just get him out.

00:16:57.020 And wherever you put him, he cannot be allowed to endanger innocent, law-abiding, contributing members of society.

00:17:03.180 That needs to be the number one priority.

00:17:07.460 So being nice to Shaquille Taylor and trying to help him out, that is by far and away a secondary concern.

00:17:15.720 The first concern is making sure that this guy cannot harm anybody.

00:17:22.880 At least that's how it should be.

00:17:26.120 You know, what we're learning here, as everybody should realize by now, is that, quote-unquote,

00:17:33.500 compassion for criminals is a zero-sum game.

00:17:37.080 Compassion for them means cruelty to normal, law-abiding citizens.

00:17:43.700 And I'll say that again, because it's important to understand.

00:17:47.180 Compassion for criminals is cruelty to the community.

00:17:52.780 You see, someone has to lose, ultimately.

00:17:55.280 Either the criminals get a harsh punishment, or they don't.

00:17:58.640 Okay, but if the criminal doesn't get a harsh punishment,

00:18:02.740 then most of the time, that will mean a harsh punishment is going to be doled out

00:18:06.960 to some innocent third party that had nothing to do with anything.

00:18:12.020 Jillian Ludwig died because the system prioritized Shaquille Taylor over Jillian Ludwig. 1.00

00:18:18.140 It chose him over her.

00:18:21.420 Now she is dead, and he's alive.

00:18:23.840 Compassion for Shaquille Taylor was cruelty to Jillian Ludwig and her family.

00:18:32.160 The system didn't want to do the ugly, brutal thing,

00:18:35.880 which was to remove Taylor from society permanently,

00:18:39.240 whether he understood or not, whether he was competent or not,

00:18:42.400 whether he had a brain infection or not, doesn't matter.

00:18:46.700 Pull him out of society, and does that mean that he's going to suffer for the rest of his life?

00:18:52.200 Does that mean he's going to live a very, very difficult, awful life in an asylum or a prison somewhere?

00:18:58.300 Yes.

00:18:59.740 Is that an ugly thing?

00:19:01.240 Yes.

00:19:04.580 But because it would not do that,

00:19:08.140 instead, it meant that we ended up with a much uglier, much more brutal thing.

00:19:15.600 We end up with a promising young woman lying dead on the sidewalk with a hole in her skull. 0.97

00:19:20.320 See, that's the choice.

00:19:24.060 Either punish the guilty or punish the innocent.

00:19:28.100 You must choose one.

00:19:30.260 Society has to choose one.

00:19:32.180 There is no third option.

00:19:35.460 And to refuse the first option is to choose the second.

00:19:39.100 It is that simple.

00:19:41.440 Now, of course, this is not happening just in Nashville.

00:19:44.280 It's happening in every major city.

00:19:45.520 We are trading the lives of decent, normal, productive people for the absolute dregs of humanity.

00:19:54.020 Ludwig was a beautiful young lady, a musician, by all accounts, a loving daughter and sister,

00:19:58.400 the sort of person that you want to have in your community.

00:20:02.980 Shaquille Taylor is the sort of person nobody wants in their community.

00:20:06.800 Nobody wants to be around somebody like this.

00:20:09.080 He contributes nothing.

00:20:11.640 He produces nothing.

00:20:12.780 He helps no one.

00:20:14.380 He is nothing but a strain on everything and everyone around him all the time.

00:20:21.840 Objectively speaking, the world would be a better place if he was not in it.

00:20:28.160 And yet, he's still here.

00:20:30.200 And Jillian Ludwig is gone.

00:20:32.260 That was the trade.

00:20:33.200 It is an explicit, deliberate trade.

00:20:38.140 Swapping out the best people for the worst.

00:20:42.020 This is what we're doing in cities all over this country.

00:20:45.820 It has to stop.

00:20:47.500 It cannot go on this way.

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00:22:05.720 So we began the show yesterday talking about the homelessness crisis, the vagrancy crisis, more like it.

00:22:11.640 And which is, by the way, and I need to be better about this too, but this is the word we should be using, vagrant.

00:22:16.660 Which is the word we used to use for what we now call homeless people.

00:22:21.060 But in fact, this is vagrancy.

00:22:22.500 These are vagrants.

00:22:24.080 And we talked about this crisis, especially in places like San Francisco.

00:22:26.420 But in San Francisco, as we discussed, they magically found a way to solve the problem, for a few days anyway,

00:22:31.240 as they prepare for a visit from various political leaders and CEOs and, you know, the communist head of China.

00:22:36.960 Well, yesterday, Gavin Newsom addressed this issue and was, well, shockingly honest.

00:22:44.980 Let's listen.

00:22:46.760 I know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.

00:22:52.500 That's true because it's true.

00:22:56.440 But it's also true for months and months and months prior to APEC.

00:23:01.100 We've been having different conversations.

00:23:02.820 Okay, it's true.

00:23:06.640 And it's true because it's true.

00:23:08.020 I guess that is also true.

00:23:11.100 But, you know, it's okay, though, he says, because, yeah, we solved this problem.

00:23:15.180 We cleaned up the streets because of all these fancy rich people are coming into town.

00:23:20.420 But, you know, that doesn't mean that we don't care about everybody else because we were having conversations.

00:23:26.460 So when it comes to cleaning up the street and cleaning the city up for your citizens, the people who live there every day,

00:23:31.240 well, when it comes to that, you'll have conversations.

00:23:35.220 We'll have a lot of conversations.

00:23:36.540 We'll engage in all kinds of discussions and conversations and meetings and hearings and everything.

00:23:43.200 But when it comes to, like, these rich people coming into town, well, for that, there's no conversation.

00:23:49.520 We're just going to get it done.

00:23:50.380 Now, meanwhile, while we're on this subject, here's something that is likely related to it.

00:23:58.720 Daily Wire reports, California Democratic Governor Gavin Newsom declared a state of emergency over the weekend

00:24:02.800 after a massive fire erupted at a homeless encampment beneath a major freeway near downtown Los Angeles,

00:24:07.960 closing the thoroughfares, now compromised structure indefinitely and impacting hundreds of thousands of commuters.

00:24:13.620 The state, quote, this is from a press release from Newsom,

00:24:17.600 the state is mobilizing resources and taking steps to ensure any necessary repairs are completed as soon as possible

00:24:22.100 to minimize the impact on those traveling in and around Los Angeles.

00:24:26.540 According to the Los Angeles Fire Department, the blaze started around 1230 a.m. on Saturday under Interstate 10

00:24:31.420 and quickly spread to a storage facility filled with pallets, trailers, and vehicles.

00:24:35.520 Authorities said the flames engulfed both sides of the 14th Street underneath the portion of the freeway,

00:24:40.840 melted steel guardrails, and damaged the number of fire trucks.

00:24:43.620 And many people have speculated, David Ortiz, public information officer for LAFD,

00:24:52.540 reportedly said a large homeless encampment with tents and RVs dwelled underneath the freeway

00:24:56.200 where the fire started.

00:24:57.620 So, of course, many people have, I think, reasonably speculated that the homeless encampment

00:25:05.040 is what started this fire.

00:25:07.380 Now, it has been declared since then that the fire was set deliberately,

00:25:11.800 that this was a deliberate act of arson.

00:25:14.160 And maybe it was.

00:25:15.700 I think it's more likely that it was a deliberate fire, but not necessarily arson.

00:25:20.220 Because you've got a refugee camp of vagrants under that bridge. 1.00

00:25:24.400 And they've got, you know, propane tanks.

00:25:27.140 And they're starting fires in their makeshift kitchens and so on.

00:25:31.500 And so it still seems most likely that this fire was originated from that.

00:25:35.900 It was a deliberate fire because they're cooking their whatever they're eating.

00:25:39.760 And then it spread from there.

00:25:42.500 And, of course, if that's the case, then they'll never tell us.

00:25:44.920 Because the last thing Newsom needs right now is a major highway shutdown

00:25:49.080 because of a bridge getting set on fire from the out-of-control vagrants that are all over his state.

00:25:54.600 Politically, that's not what he wants or needs,

00:25:57.020 which is why, if that's what happened, we'll never get the full story or the true story.

00:26:02.920 Either way, the fact remains that the homeless problem is a crisis.

00:26:07.140 And this is why vagrancy should be illegal.

00:26:11.000 Like, it should not be a legal option to set up an encampment under a bridge or on a sidewalk.

00:26:19.420 It's actually, it's crazy that this is even allowed.

00:26:23.080 It should not be allowed.

00:26:24.160 It should be against the law.

00:26:26.600 Which is why, in most cases, you know, if you want to,

00:26:31.620 if you have a tent and you want to set up your tent somewhere,

00:26:33.840 and you're not a vagrant, there's all kinds of laws and regulations

00:26:38.760 and there's only certain places you can go with your tent and set it up.

00:26:42.060 And you've got to get permits and you've got to do everything else.

00:26:44.080 Sometimes you've got to pay to access a campground and all these kinds of things.

00:26:47.680 So, in most cases, we all understand that you can't just, like,

00:26:50.360 take a tent and set it up anywhere you want.

00:26:52.500 Especially not in a public area where people are trying to walk by.

00:26:54.660 You can't do that.

00:26:57.820 Yet, we've carved out this exception for vagrants.

00:27:03.840 And, you know, I said this yesterday on Twitter when someone, you know,

00:27:11.460 I said this should be illegal.

00:27:13.420 And someone asked me, as they often do, well,

00:27:16.020 what are the homeless people supposed to do if vagrancy is illegal?

00:27:20.720 You know, where are they supposed to go?

00:27:22.300 What are they supposed to do?

00:27:23.920 And my answer was simple.

00:27:25.400 My answer to most things are simple because, as you know, I'm a simple man.

00:27:28.640 And I see simple solutions to problems that most people seem to think are complicated.

00:27:34.340 And I think most problems actually are not all that complicated.

00:27:37.800 That doesn't mean that most solutions are easy.

00:27:41.160 There's a difference between simple and easy.

00:27:44.240 But most solutions to most problems are simple.

00:27:48.840 And so, you know, I asked this question.

00:27:51.420 And I said, well, one thing homeless people can do is they can stop doing drugs and they can get a job.

00:27:57.140 Those are the first two steps that I would personally explore.

00:28:01.300 And this, of course, provoked a lot of outrage on social media.

00:28:04.420 How dare I suggest such a thing?

00:28:06.080 How dare I suggest that it'd be better to not dedicate your entire life to fentanyl and heroin?

00:28:10.880 You know, how dare I suggest that?

00:28:11.960 It's an outrageous thing to say.

00:28:15.720 Lots of comments like that.

00:28:16.820 Reading just a few of them.

00:28:19.720 Someone says, all the homeless are doing drugs. 0.99

00:28:21.540 What an effing stereotypic racist. 1.00

00:28:24.480 Someone else says, as a recovering addict, shut the eff up. 1.00

00:28:28.800 Someone else said, I know people who don't do drugs and have been actively applying for months and still nothing. 0.52

00:28:32.960 I think the first step would be to address what's causing people to do drugs and what's causing people to not work.

00:28:37.340 And someone else says, if you never did drugs and have a job, what then?

00:28:43.800 Anyway, you get the idea.

00:28:46.540 First of all, and we have to continue to establish this, the number of sober homeless people who either have jobs or are actively applying and trying to get one.

00:29:00.700 That number is probably like five in the whole country, if that many.

00:29:04.300 Okay, it's like a non-existent population of sober homeless people who are really like trying to get a job and it's just, and they're down on the luck and it's not working out.

00:29:13.800 It's like, it's, you have probably never in your life walked past a homeless person that would fall into that category.

00:29:22.000 If you are a sober, sane person, there's no legitimate reason why you should be living under a bridge or on a tent on the sidewalk.

00:29:29.940 It is actually very easy to get a job.

00:29:34.280 It is very easy to afford some kind of housing.

00:29:38.100 May not be a very good job.

00:29:39.320 I didn't say it's easy to get a good job.

00:29:41.320 May not be very nice housing.

00:29:43.560 But a sober, sane person can find something pretty easily.

00:29:48.400 Right?

00:29:48.640 Like, whoever you are watching this, you could go out right now and you could get 15 jobs in a day.

00:29:57.820 I mean, you could easily, you get 15 jobs.

00:30:02.060 Again, they might not be great jobs, but you can get them.

00:30:05.960 And if you're starting from nothing now, and there are people, it's not that simple.

00:30:09.460 Like if you have a family and, and six kids, you know, myself, I got a mortgage.

00:30:15.260 If I lose my job tomorrow, it's not like going to McDonald's is not going to help me because it's not going to do any go.

00:30:21.040 It's not going to get even close to paying for everything I need to pay for.

00:30:24.200 Right?

00:30:24.360 So it's not quite that simple.

00:30:25.680 I can just go out and apply for a job and take anything.

00:30:27.520 It's more complicated.

00:30:28.980 If you're on the sidewalk, though, if you're living on the sidewalk, and if you have nothing, then anything is better than nothing.

00:30:37.260 And so working at McDonald's and living in a crappy studio apartment is a huge step up.

00:30:41.920 And there's no reason to not take it.

00:30:45.340 It's a solution.

00:30:46.260 The fact that the solution is so easy and accessible proves that the homeless, for the most part, are not normal people just down on their luck.

00:30:56.280 That's not the case for the vast majority of instances.

00:30:59.320 So if getting a job is not an option, right, if you're dealing with homeless people and I say, well, why can't they just get a job?

00:31:12.340 And you say, well, they can't.

00:31:14.180 Okay. 0.95

00:31:14.500 Well, that tells us that these people, these are people who are mentally incapacitated, either because they're insane or because drugs have fried their brains. 0.79

00:31:24.860 And that is true.

00:31:27.500 That category definitely exists.

00:31:29.620 That's probably most of them.

00:31:31.580 A great many of these people, it's true.

00:31:34.060 For a great many of these people, even getting a job at McDonald's is basically out of the question.

00:31:38.040 They are not fit even to work at McDonald's, which also means, obviously, that quote-unquote affordable housing is not a solution.

00:31:47.200 Simply giving them shelter and housing is not a solution.

00:31:51.180 These are people that, even according to the people that disagree with me, these are people who, they're unfit to work at McDonald's.

00:31:57.540 They can't even do that.

00:31:59.720 So you put them in free housing and they'll be back on the street in five minutes.

00:32:04.760 That's the reality, which is why the third step in the solution goes back to what we talked about in the opening, which is institutions, asylums. 0.95

00:32:16.520 Okay, here's what it comes down to.

00:32:17.700 Go to any homeless encampment anywhere in the country.

00:32:21.180 If there's anyone in that encampment who is capable of working at McDonald's, then they should be required to do that.

00:32:29.640 Go get a job.

00:32:32.120 Get off the street.

00:32:33.680 That's the message.

00:32:35.460 Anyone in that category, go do that.

00:32:39.120 Anyone who can't do that needs to be institutionalized.

00:32:43.820 Immediately, round it up and put it in an institution, put in an asylum for people who are not mentally fit for society. 1.00

00:32:54.100 That's how you solve the problem.

00:32:56.380 Okay?

00:32:56.800 You round them up and you put them in institutions, put them in asylums, all of them. 1.00

00:33:00.680 And we can either, because that's it.

00:33:08.220 These people exist and so they can either be in asylums, which is what we used to do, or they can be on the streets. 0.99

00:33:15.800 Those are the only two options.

00:33:17.220 Again, going back to the beginning.

00:33:18.220 When you're dealing with a difficult, though not complicated, when you're dealing with a difficult problem, many times the choices are not good.

00:33:31.840 There is no choice where everything is great and there are roses growing everything and unicorns are flying in the sky.

00:33:37.900 That choice isn't on the table.

00:33:39.800 And so when it comes to the homeless problem, there's really two options.

00:33:44.960 They can be on the street, all over the street, all over our cities, setting bridges on fire and taking dumps on the sidewalk.

00:33:50.840 Or they can be in an institution somewhere.

00:33:53.300 Period.

00:33:53.760 Those are the two options.

00:33:54.940 It's got to be one or the other.

00:33:55.900 And if you're saying, well, we don't want to round them up and put them in asylum, it's a horrible thing to say.

00:33:58.800 Okay, then what you are saying is you'd rather have them on the street.

00:34:01.760 And don't tell me that, no, no, no, I want a third option. 1.00

00:34:03.580 There is no third option, you moron. 1.00

00:34:05.220 It doesn't exist. 1.00

00:34:07.100 So I don't want to hear about your third option.

00:34:08.560 Round them up, put them in asylums, or you leave them on the street. 1.00

00:34:12.260 That's it.

00:34:12.980 Which one?

00:34:13.680 You only get two.

00:34:15.360 We used to put them in asylums. 1.00

00:34:16.560 That's why we didn't have homeless all over the street. 0.76

00:34:18.560 Now we don't have asylums anymore and they're all over the street. 1.00

00:34:20.660 It's not hard.

00:34:21.200 It's not hard to connect the dots here.

00:34:22.920 The mathematical equation is not a, it's one that even I can solve.

00:34:28.260 That's it.

00:34:28.780 That's what it comes down to.

00:34:30.900 New York Daily News reports, responding to a swell in anti-Semitic hate crimes,

00:34:34.220 New York State will deploy more state cops to the Federal Joint Terrorism Task Force

00:34:38.540 office in New York, according to Governor Kathy Hokule.

00:34:42.820 Hokule, a Buffalo Democrat, directed $2.5 million to the New York State Police to support

00:34:47.140 its plan to embed an additional 10 investigators in the FBI's Counterterrorism Task Force office

00:34:51.580 in order to deal with this problem.

00:34:54.440 And, you know, all that sounds good.

00:34:56.160 Obviously locking up people who commit violent crimes, anyone targeting Jewish people violently,

00:35:00.940 obviously they all need to go to prison, so that part makes sense.

00:35:05.840 But then there's also this.

00:35:07.620 Here's Kathy Hokule expanding on the plan.

00:35:10.960 Let's listen.

00:35:12.420 Also, we're very focused on the data we're collecting from surveillance efforts.

00:35:17.020 What's being said on social media platforms?

00:35:20.360 And we have launched an effort to be able to counter some of the negativity

00:35:26.480 and reach out to people when we see hate speech being spoken about on online platforms.

00:35:33.840 Our media analysis, our social media analysis unit, has ramped up its monitoring of sites

00:35:40.780 to catch incitement to violence, direct threats to others.

00:35:45.280 And all this is in response to our desire, our strong commitment to ensure that not only do New Yorkers

00:35:54.920 be safe, but they also feel safe.

00:35:59.940 And there it is.

00:36:00.740 Of course, it's, you know, they can't simply say, okay, if there's violent hate crimes,

00:36:06.940 and I don't like the hate crime category, period, in the first place.

00:36:10.260 I don't think we need it, but as long as we have it, they can't simply say what they should say,

00:36:15.480 which is that if people are committing hate, actual crimes, like physical crimes against somebody else

00:36:20.940 based on their ethnicity or religion or for any reason,

00:36:25.920 we're going to find those people and punish them and make sure they're not able to hurt anybody else.

00:36:30.540 Like, that's a good message.

00:36:32.020 That should be their message.

00:36:34.440 But, and they say that, sort of, and then they don't do it, but then they can never stop there.

00:36:39.760 It never stops there.

00:36:41.080 In fact, it's not just that it doesn't stop there.

00:36:42.620 It's that all of that is just the pretense for what they really want to do, because they don't care.

00:36:47.440 You think Kathy Hochul cares about violent crime at all, whether it's against Jews or anybody else?

00:36:52.540 No, of course she doesn't care about that. 0.85

00:36:54.640 These are all sociopaths anyway, for the most part, that are running the country in most of these states.

00:37:00.100 So they don't really care about that.

00:37:02.200 What they care, so that's the pretense.

00:37:03.720 And what they really want to get to is what she just said there, is, well, yes, we want to stop violent crime,

00:37:10.280 but even more than that, we want to stop hate.

00:37:13.540 And so stopping hate means effectively stopping speech.

00:37:17.620 It means punishing speech, and that's what she's describing there,

00:37:20.460 which is the bit about monitoring social media for hate speech and countering negativity.

00:37:30.640 Okay, it shouldn't need to be said that countering negativity is not the government's job.

00:37:37.220 Negativity, positivity, how people are feeling, their attitude, their tone, that's not the government's job.

00:37:44.580 Okay, that's like a parent's job.

00:37:48.660 So I am the tone police in my house.

00:37:51.500 I will police my children's tone.

00:37:54.080 If they have a tone I don't like, they're going to hear about it from me.

00:37:58.020 And as parents, we do that with our kids.

00:38:00.740 Government, they're not our parents, and so we don't need them worried about,

00:38:03.580 well, I don't like your tone.

00:38:05.500 I don't care if you don't like my tone.

00:38:07.720 I'm an adult.

00:38:09.200 There's no law against having a tone you don't like, even a hateful tone.

00:38:15.020 But the real, you get into the real nitty gritty with the last thing she said there,

00:38:18.980 which is that people have the right to not only be safe, but to feel safe.

00:38:25.920 And once again, you have the correct statement, which is people have the right to be safe.

00:38:31.000 They do.

00:38:32.700 And citizens, law-abiding citizens in a civilized society should have that expectation that they can be safe.

00:38:41.620 Right?

00:38:41.800 So that's the correct part, but then that's only a pretense for the next part,

00:38:46.120 which is where we go off the rails and she says, not only be safe, but feel safe.

00:38:52.920 Now, you're right about the first part, which is the part she doesn't really even care about.

00:38:58.800 Second part, no.

00:38:59.580 The right to feel safe?

00:39:04.300 No, you don't have, I mean, well, I guess you have the right to feel however you want to feel.

00:39:10.380 No one can stop you from feeling a certain way.

00:39:13.560 But you don't have the right to have your feelings protected.

00:39:23.360 You have the right to be physically protected.

00:39:27.160 But your feelings are, I guess the point is that your feelings exist entirely outside of the realm of rights.

00:39:34.720 Rights have nothing to do with your feelings one way or another.

00:39:37.700 Now, you don't have the right to feel safe.

00:39:43.520 You have the right to be safe.

00:39:44.700 And whether you feel safe or not, if you are safe,

00:39:47.440 and the government is doing its basic job to protect its citizens, to enforce the law,

00:39:52.100 if they're doing that, then they've done their job.

00:39:55.540 And whether that translates over to your feelings is irrelevant from a legal perspective.

00:40:05.900 There's nothing we can do about that one way or another.

00:40:10.140 It's your responsibility to, if you want to be a well-adjusted person,

00:40:13.620 it's your responsibility to bring your feelings in line with reality.

00:40:16.940 And all that really matters and all the government should care about is the reality.

00:40:23.520 Are we keeping our citizens safe or not?

00:40:25.820 Physically safe from actual crime.

00:40:29.680 They shouldn't be focused on the feelings at all, obviously.

00:40:33.420 All right, here's an interesting, before we get to the next segment,

00:40:34.980 here's an interesting case from the New York Post.

00:40:38.640 A Grammy-nominated gospel singer was nearly booted off a Delta flight

00:40:41.900 when she refused to stop performing her new single,

00:40:44.300 which she insisted was just her doing what the Lord is telling me to do.

00:40:48.900 Detroit-born Bobby Storm is her name,

00:40:52.280 featured vocalist in the 2024 Grammy-nominated album The Maverick Way,

00:40:56.600 shared a video of her attempt to sing on the plane.

00:41:00.860 And then, so this is, she tries to sing on the plane, perform.

00:41:05.060 Flight attendant steps in, tells her to shut up and sit down. 1.00

00:41:08.620 She records this interaction because she thinks that she's the good guy in it, obviously.

00:41:12.360 But let's play it, and what do you think?

00:41:15.340 We'll see.

00:41:16.860 I'm charting right now on the billboard.

00:41:19.120 You can sit down.

00:41:19.980 I can sit down, and I'll sit down.

00:41:21.460 I'll sit down.

00:41:24.640 I'll sit down.

00:41:26.520 The seatbelt signs off.

00:41:27.960 The seatbelt signs off.

00:41:30.740 It's not a disturbance.

00:41:32.060 I was like, you know, I haven't done this in a while.

00:41:34.840 I've gotten to the next status, so.

00:41:36.880 Are you able to be quiet?

00:41:38.200 But they're enjoying it.

00:41:39.540 So while we're sitting here, could I please?

00:41:41.000 I'm not enjoying it, so I'm asking you, can you be quiet?

00:41:43.660 Okay, well, I'll find that up.

00:41:44.840 I'll say yes or no answer, please.

00:41:47.360 Am I going to go to jail if I don't?

00:41:49.040 Can you please answer my question?

00:41:50.300 Are you willing and able to be quiet right now?

00:41:52.360 I'm doing what the Lord is telling me to do.

00:41:53.980 I'm asking you a question, yes or no.

00:41:55.340 I'm your flight leader.

00:41:56.400 I need you to follow my instruction.

00:41:57.940 Okay.

00:41:58.300 My instruction for you to answer my question.

00:42:00.120 Are you able to be quiet right now?

00:42:01.240 What do you guys think?

00:42:02.180 I'm asking you, ma'am.

00:42:04.640 I'm asking you guys.

00:42:06.340 What do you guys think?

00:42:07.280 Okay.

00:42:07.760 If you're not able to follow my instruction, you will not be taking this flight.

00:42:11.480 Ah, okay.

00:42:12.220 Are you able to be quiet?

00:42:13.520 If that's the case, then that's fine.

00:42:15.900 Okay.

00:42:17.360 There's so many things I love about that, that whole video.

00:42:20.000 The first one is that she's asked to sit down on the plane, and she says, no, it's okay.

00:42:25.120 I'm charting on the billboards.

00:42:27.160 So she thinks that that's some sort of, maybe she can just walk into the cockpit.

00:42:31.260 Ma'am, you can't be in here.

00:42:32.500 It's okay.

00:42:33.560 I'm charting on the billboards.

00:42:35.780 Everything's fine.

00:42:37.940 And, but my favorite part is, which is like, it's one of those things that's so great and

00:42:42.300 funny and awkward that you couldn't possibly script it, that when she's being told to

00:42:47.040 shut up, she turns to the other passengers and says, what do you guys think?

00:42:50.180 I mean, they're enjoying it. 0.87

00:42:51.500 What do you think, guys?

00:42:52.600 And everyone's just looking like, she was expecting everyone to say,

00:42:56.480 yeah, keep singing, sing what's in your heart, and nobody wants to hear.

00:43:01.140 Of course, I wish someone had said that.

00:43:02.440 You know, she's lucky that I wasn't sitting there, because I would have said, no, I'm with

00:43:05.720 him, totally, because I am.

00:43:08.160 I'm totally on the flight attendant's side here.

00:43:09.800 Because to begin with, like, if I could even consider being on the singer's side in this

00:43:18.800 dispute, which I wouldn't consider it, but to get close to that point, well, like, that

00:43:26.960 goes out the window the moment you find out that she was trying to sing her own single.

00:43:31.980 So if you're going to force a captive audience to listen to you sing, then at least sing a

00:43:40.840 classic, sing something that everybody knows and can sing along to.

00:43:45.420 And if you're going the gospel Christian route, then sing, like, Amazing Grace.

00:43:50.520 That should be your song.

00:43:54.200 But you're trying to sing a song that nobody knows and nobody wants to know, which is your

00:43:58.140 own single, which makes it all the worse.

00:44:02.240 But really, no matter what you're singing, this is, and I made this point before, because

00:44:05.560 we've seen other videos where people launch into these, what was it recently?

00:44:10.280 There was some kind of musical, I think there was some kind of, like, musical theater troupe

00:44:14.180 or something on a plane.

00:44:15.180 They started performing a whole musical number.

00:44:17.560 It's a nightmare.

00:44:18.300 A nightmare scenario.

00:44:20.260 You're 30,000 feet in the air.

00:44:21.720 You're trapped in this metal tube flying through the sky at 500 miles an hour.

00:44:27.440 You've got nowhere to go.

00:44:28.540 There's no parachutes.

00:44:29.860 And they're performing musical theater without your consent.

00:44:34.920 Non-consensual musical performances.

00:44:38.920 So you see these kinds of videos, and it really doesn't matter what they're singing.

00:44:42.160 This is the ultimate definition of a captive audience.

00:44:46.840 They have nowhere to go.

00:44:48.980 They're on that plane.

00:44:50.280 No one gets on a plane hoping for a musical performance.

00:44:53.060 Never.

00:44:53.740 No one is thinking that.

00:44:55.600 They're working.

00:44:57.380 They're trying to sleep.

00:44:58.900 They're listening to their own playlist.

00:45:01.680 Just forcing them to endure that is, I mean, I think it should be a federal crime.

00:45:06.680 I don't know what happened to that one.

00:45:07.460 I think nothing happened to her because, you know, she went with the program eventually.

00:45:12.200 But I would be, especially considering all the things that are a crime on a plane, I would

00:45:18.200 be totally in favor of making that a federal crime, which is not a surprise.

00:45:21.820 Because, as you know, I basically want to make everything that I find annoying illegal.

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00:46:27.300 So I've already dealt with a lot of the was Walsh wrong comments during the five headlines.

00:46:32.060 So here's just one more in a similar vein.

00:46:33.920 This was a message that was sent to me actually.

00:46:35.320 It says, Matt, I agree with you about most things, but when it comes to issues like poverty

00:46:38.680 and homelessness, you tend to lapse into pull yourself up by your bootstraps boomerisms.

00:46:43.100 It's not that simple for a lot of people.

00:46:45.860 Conservatives refuse to recognize that, which is why we lose.

00:46:49.060 We're seen as clueless and heartless.

00:46:52.300 Like, I've already kind of dealt with this objection.

00:46:54.320 I think either, you know, either someone is capable of taking charge of their own life

00:46:57.880 or they're not.

00:46:59.820 And if they are capable, then we should expect and demand that they do so.

00:47:04.140 And if they aren't capable, then these are people who are not fit to be wandering around

00:47:08.580 free and unsupervised in society.

00:47:10.560 They just shouldn't be, they, if you are not responsible for your own actions, then you

00:47:19.900 lose the right to exist freely in society.

00:47:25.000 It's just the way it goes.

00:47:27.960 And that's the answer.

00:47:29.660 You know, either the homeless are capable of being contributing members of society or they're 0.71

00:47:33.040 not.

00:47:33.420 And if they're not, then they need to be segregated and institutionalized like we used to do.

00:47:38.180 Um, now with that said, once we have accounted for the truly mentally incompetent people out 0.91

00:47:47.560 there, the clinically insane, uh, people whose brains have been destroyed, uh, hopelessly

00:47:52.620 and permanently by, by chronic drug use, which by the way, is a lot of this too.

00:47:56.500 You know, we talk about mental illness among the homeless and there's, you know, there's

00:48:00.300 certainly plenty of that.

00:48:01.820 You know, schizophrenia and so on, you know, those kinds of, uh, very serious, uh, mental

00:48:07.420 afflictions, but also a lot of what we call mental illness, you know, maybe that word

00:48:13.380 applies, maybe it doesn't, but it is kind of self-inflicted.

00:48:16.760 Uh, these are people that have just been poisoning themselves with drugs forever.

00:48:20.320 And now they're, and now they just, they're zombies.

00:48:23.480 Um, so once we've accounted for all of that and we're kind of have like everybody else in

00:48:30.860 society, um, then at that point, the pull yourself up by your bootstraps message, although

00:48:38.800 it gets a bad rap is not only correct, but it's also like the only helpful and constructive

00:48:46.640 thing to say to people.

00:48:49.340 So anytime you say that to someone, uh, pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

00:48:55.540 I don't think I've, I don't think I've verbatim said that phrase cause it's a cliche, but yeah,

00:49:00.400 that is my message again to everyone who is not totally mentally incompetent to everybody

00:49:06.660 else.

00:49:08.220 Yes.

00:49:08.660 A big part of my message is take charge of your own life.

00:49:12.840 Uh, take responsibility for yourself.

00:49:14.960 Work.

00:49:17.280 If you're in a spot you don't want to be in work every second of the day to get yourself

00:49:21.780 out of that spot, i.e. pull yourself up by a bootstraps.

00:49:26.560 And I think that's, that's not only the correct thing, but it's what, what, what's the other

00:49:32.260 option?

00:49:33.160 What else are you going to say to people?

00:49:35.880 So it's not only a correct message.

00:49:37.280 It's the only helpful message.

00:49:39.000 It's the only helpful thing to tell people, because if you're not saying that,

00:49:43.420 yes, then you're telling them that they're helpless and, uh, and, and that they don't

00:49:49.400 have control over their lives.

00:49:50.500 And I know that in this society where, where we are allergic to the very concept of accountability

00:50:00.320 and being self-reliant.

00:50:01.940 Um, so I know in this society with that kind of, with that kind of cultural sort of wiring,

00:50:06.760 um, we tend to think that it's, that it is incredibly cruel to tell people that they

00:50:13.580 have power over their own lives.

00:50:15.480 And we, we, we, we think that the most compassionate thing we can say to someone is that they are

00:50:20.240 helpless, little flowers, little delicate flowers that can't do anything for themselves.

00:50:25.460 But the opposite is the case.

00:50:29.700 That, that is an incredibly cruel message, lacking in compassion.

00:50:36.400 Um, because what is someone supposed to do with that?

00:50:40.340 Um, I can tell you, like anyone else, I've had plenty of things in my life that I've struggled

00:50:46.540 with.

00:50:46.860 I've had situations in life that I've, you know, my own obstacles and like anybody else,

00:50:51.960 like any human on earth, right?

00:50:52.960 We've all, we all have those things.

00:50:54.640 And, um, I don't want anyone coming up to me and making excuses for me, you know, on my

00:51:01.900 behalf or saying, well, you, you, you can't handle this.

00:51:06.360 You know, just, you can give up and you'd be forgiven.

00:51:08.960 I don't want to hear that message.

00:51:12.180 Like, what am I supposed to do with that?

00:51:13.400 That's the last thing I want to hear.

00:51:15.620 And I think if anyone does want to hear that message, well, that only shows all the more

00:51:19.420 that they shouldn't hear it.

00:51:22.680 Sort of the, the, the more that someone recoils at a message of self-reliance, the more obvious

00:51:29.220 it is that they need to hear that message.

00:51:32.520 So you can call it a boomer or not.

00:51:35.440 It's, it is, uh, it is in fact what people need to hear.

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00:52:17.480 A high school English teacher in Missouri named Brianna Coppedge was placed on leave earlier

00:52:22.240 this month and quickly resigned from her position after, as the media reports put it, she was 1.00

00:52:27.020 outed as a performer on OnlyFans.

00:52:29.640 And of course the word outed is doing a lot of work here.

00:52:31.820 So is the word performer. 0.98

00:52:33.460 She is a prostitute, not a performer. 0.98

00:52:35.480 And she outed herself when she decided to engage in this behavior on the internet where 0.59

00:52:40.040 anyone in the world can see it for a small subscription fee.

00:52:43.220 I must again remind everyone that you have not been outed when people simply notice what

00:52:48.100 you yourself have decided to post on the internet.

00:52:50.580 As soon as something is on the internet, it is out.

00:52:53.560 It is as out as a thing can possibly be.

00:52:56.160 The outing occurred the moment it was posted.

00:52:57.980 And if it was posted by you, then you, again, outed yourself.

00:53:02.440 That's not how Brianna Coppedge sees it, though.

00:53:05.040 She has defended herself to the local media.

00:53:07.300 Here's what she says.

00:53:08.940 A former teacher in the metro speaks only to locally to four about being outed for bearing

00:53:15.780 it all.

00:53:16.620 When that Franklin County woman's OnlyFans page was found, she was pulled from the classroom. 0.53

00:53:21.020 Then Brianna Coppedge voluntarily resigned. 0.92

00:53:23.080 And tonight, only our Shoshana Stahl has the first interview with a teacher turned entrepreneurial

00:53:27.840 porn star.

00:53:30.140 It's just like those connections that I'm going to miss.

00:53:33.220 Brianna Coppedge started teaching five years ago.

00:53:36.340 Being there for students, like celebrating milestones with them.

00:53:39.860 For the last two years and until resigning earlier this month, she was at St.

00:53:44.440 Clare High School as an English teacher and one reason for her departure to make more 0.99

00:53:49.280 money.

00:53:49.940 She started an OnlyFans page, a site that's growing popular across many generations.

00:53:55.360 On OnlyFans, some offer premium content to build connections with subscribers, such as

00:54:00.860 inspirational speeches, photos and even adult content.

00:54:05.440 OK, time out for a second.

00:54:06.980 Why are we playing dumb about OnlyFans here?

00:54:09.300 What are you trying to achieve?

00:54:11.580 The local CBS affiliate is pretending for some reason that people go to OnlyFans for

00:54:16.760 inspirational speeches.

00:54:19.220 Maybe that's the excuse the reporter's husband gave her when she found out about his subscription

00:54:23.960 to the site.

00:54:24.540 No, honey, it's not what it looks like.

00:54:26.700 I'm just subscribed for the inspirational speeches.

00:54:29.660 It's kind of the new generation's version of I only read Playboy for the articles.

00:54:33.700 And that could be where this is coming from.

00:54:34.920 Or maybe they're just randomly lying about OnlyFans because the media reflexively lies about

00:54:38.540 everything and can't help itself at this point.

00:54:40.760 In any case, here's what Brianna has to say for herself.

00:54:44.620 Listen.

00:54:45.900 Missouri is one of the lowest states in the nation for teacher pay.

00:54:49.100 And then the district I was working for is also one of the lowest paying districts in

00:54:54.280 the state.

00:54:54.940 Coppedge says her yearly teaching salary was $42,000.

00:54:59.360 When she started OnlyFans, she avoided showing her face because of her job as a teacher.

00:55:04.940 A lot of people asking, why don't you just get like a part-time job somewhere?

00:55:08.700 But teachers also take all of their work home.

00:55:12.120 Like, we don't get to stop working when we leave the school day.

00:55:16.340 We don't get to grade all 130 students' papers during the day.

00:55:20.820 It's just not possible when you're teaching.

00:55:22.380 So we take that work home with us on the evenings, on the weekends.

00:55:25.960 So getting a second job is just really not possible.

00:55:30.380 The St. Clair School District said in a statement it was notified of the posts by an individual

00:55:34.640 not affiliated with the school.

00:55:36.940 The statement goes on to say the district immediately retained legal counsel for assistance

00:55:40.920 due to the sensitivity of the matter and to protect the integrity of the investigation.

00:55:45.440 Our handbook policies are very vague and they just say something about, like, represent yourself

00:55:50.400 well.

00:55:51.860 Did I violate that?

00:55:53.360 I feel like that's a matter of opinion.

00:55:57.740 Yes, ma'am, you did violate that.

00:55:59.540 It's actually not vague at all.

00:56:01.200 I suppose there could be some gray area in the represent yourself well category.

00:56:05.260 But when you start selling your body on the internet, you have definitely crossed over

00:56:08.900 the line.

00:56:09.480 Not just crossed it, but you've trampled it into dust. 0.98

00:56:12.280 Becoming an OnlyFans prostitute is the very definition of not representing yourself well.

00:56:16.540 If the district needs to clarify that section of the handbook, then they should do it by

00:56:20.340 adding a picture of Brianna Coppedge, a fully clothed picture, just to be clear.

00:56:26.120 Brianna defends her decision to become, as the news anchor puts it, an entrepreneurial porn 0.99

00:56:31.260 star by saying that, well, she makes a lot of money doing it, which I'm sure she does. 1.00

00:56:37.300 But the problem is that I make a lot of money doing this is the worst possible moral justification

00:56:43.080 for anything.

00:56:45.400 Many of the bad things people do, they do because they make money doing it.

00:56:49.660 But we don't accept that as an excuse.

00:56:51.780 If someone accuses you of engaging in objectionable and immoral behavior, and you respond, but I

00:56:57.780 make a lot of money doing it, they generally aren't going to say, oh, okay, well, never mind

00:57:02.580 then.

00:57:02.920 I mean, obviously, it's totally acceptable in that case. 0.63

00:57:04.940 I just want to make sure that you weren't behaving in a disgusting and shameful way

00:57:08.220 for free.

00:57:08.980 But as long as you're making money, then never mind.

00:57:11.060 Carry on.

00:57:12.260 That's not how the conversation goes.

00:57:14.640 And that's because we know you're doing it for money and attention and validation, but

00:57:20.480 that doesn't make it better.

00:57:22.440 Now, if this story sounds familiar, it's because a version of this story plays out seemingly

00:57:26.540 like once a week now.

00:57:27.700 Before Brianna Coppedge, it was a woman named Annie Knight who made some headlines after getting 1.00

00:57:31.840 fired from her corporate marketing job after starting an OnlyFans page.

00:57:34.940 Before her, it was a Kristen McDonald, who's the special needs teaching assistant who was 0.99

00:57:39.840 fired after her OnlyFans activities were discovered.

00:57:42.740 And it's not just teachers and employees in the corporate world getting fired for this.

00:57:45.920 A while ago, a female mechanic at a Honda dealership in Indiana was also fired from her job when 0.99

00:57:51.520 she began dabbling in the entrepreneurial porn business.

00:57:55.340 And so this sort of thing happens frequently.

00:57:57.780 And for the most part, these women, when they're fired, are treated as martyrs by the media. 0.99

00:58:03.060 But they are not martyrs.

00:58:05.280 It goes without saying, or should go without saying, that all of these women deserve to 1.00

00:58:09.600 be fired.

00:58:10.160 Your employer is concerned not just with your behavior at work, but also with your behavior

00:58:14.400 outside of work if it reflects poorly on them or causes difficulties in the workplace.

00:58:20.040 Your employer has a right to take those kinds of things into consideration, which means that

00:58:24.060 if you become a prostitute in your free time, you should absolutely lose your job. 0.96

00:58:30.180 You know, most people don't want to work with or around prostitutes. 0.99

00:58:34.140 And your employer doesn't want to employ prostitutes. 1.00

00:58:37.920 It's disgraceful and dirty and disgusting and embarrassing. 0.99

00:58:41.980 This is obviously especially the case if you're a teacher, but it applies no matter your occupation. 0.99

00:58:46.500 And yes, as established, OnlyFans is prostitution. 0.99

00:58:51.660 As I've been arguing for years, all pornography is prostitution. 0.97

00:58:55.200 To be a prostitute is to sell your body for money. 0.97

00:58:59.360 And that's what everyone in the porn industry is doing. 1.00

00:59:01.500 It's what everyone on OnlyFans is doing. 0.99

00:59:04.660 It's what a hooker on the street corner is doing. 1.00

00:59:07.080 There is no moral difference or even any significant practical difference between any of these categories. 0.93

00:59:11.740 But with OnlyFans, as opposed to what I guess we must call traditional internet porn,

00:59:17.380 this equivalency is the most obvious. 0.97

00:59:20.700 You know, that OnlyFans is like the most direct parallel with being a hooker on street corner. 1.00

00:59:26.560 Which is also why OnlyFans should obviously be banned.

00:59:30.760 Now, I think all pornography should be banned.

00:59:32.600 But if we have to go about this incrementally, then OnlyFans is a very good place to start.

00:59:37.560 You know, the tragedy of OnlyFans, and this is not to say that these women are victims of their own choices, 0.74

00:59:45.360 because these are their choices. 0.80

00:59:47.180 But the tragedy is that nearly all of these OnlyFans prostitutes would not be prostitutes if OnlyFans didn't exist. 0.95

00:59:57.140 These, like, soccer moms and English teachers and corporate professionals, 0.88

01:00:01.540 they wouldn't ever even consider going out to the street corner to turn tricks,

01:00:06.940 nor would they go looking for a gig at the strip club down the street.

01:00:11.400 What they're doing on the site is morally and substantively and should be considered legally the same,

01:00:17.620 because there's no real distinction, but the presence of the screen,

01:00:22.000 the fact that it's all done in cyberspace makes it feel different. 0.92

01:00:25.700 You know, it allows prostitutes to feel like they are not prostitutes.

01:00:31.960 And that's why they're invariably shocked when they end up getting fired from their respectable jobs.

01:00:36.960 I don't think that shock is like a put-on.

01:00:39.460 They aren't pretending to be surprised.

01:00:41.200 They really bought into the lie of OnlyFans and of the internet pornography business as a whole

01:00:46.280 and believed that because they were doing this on the internet,

01:00:50.060 it somehow didn't count in the real world.

01:00:52.560 OnlyFans makes a life of prostitution accessible for people who would never consider it otherwise. 0.97

01:01:01.220 Now, that's not to say that Brianna and all the Brianna Coppages of the world 0.85

01:01:05.040 would be virtuous, chaste, dignified women if not for OnlyFans. 1.00

01:01:09.320 It's only to say that they would not be call girls whoring themselves out for $10 a month.

01:01:15.640 OnlyFans makes that possible in a unique way, which is why it should not be allowed to exist.

01:01:19.900 It is a universal negative.

01:01:22.560 It hurts everybody involved in it.

01:01:25.740 It harms society.

01:01:27.140 It can only cause harm.

01:01:28.540 There is no counterbalancing good being done by it.

01:01:33.440 Prostitution is already illegal in 49 out of 50 states.

01:01:37.240 The question is whether there should be this carve-out, this special privilege granted to internet prostitution.

01:01:44.420 But why should there be?

01:01:46.140 Why is there?

01:01:46.900 In fact, internet prostitution has a more deleterious effect because of its accessibility and its ubiquity.

01:01:55.080 Because it's the one kind of prostitution that a bored soccer mom would actually engage in. 1.00

01:02:00.520 So if we're only banning one type of prostitution, the in-person or internet variety, obviously it should be the latter.

01:02:09.820 But instead we ban the former and the latter is legal and virtually unregulated.

01:02:16.160 It makes no sense.

01:02:19.120 OnlyFans, in conclusion, is a cancer.

01:02:21.700 It should be banned.

01:02:22.860 And it certainly, today, is cancelled.

01:02:25.700 That'll do it for the show today.

01:02:27.540 Thanks for watching.

01:02:28.040 Thanks for listening.

01:02:28.780 Have a great day.

01:02:29.980 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - November 14, 2023

Ep. 1262 - The Case That Proves Compassion For Criminals Means Cruelty To Law Abiding Citizens

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