The Matt Walsh Show - December 04, 2023


Ep. 1271 - The Origins Of The Anti-Human Depopulation Agenda


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Today on the Matt Wall Show, we will trace the origins of the left's anti-human agenda to depopulate the planet. It all began with a document that is rarely talked about and most people don't even know existed.

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00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, we will trace the origins of the left's anti-human agenda
00:00:03.980 to depopulate the planet. It all began with a document that is rarely talked about and
00:00:07.900 most people don't even know existed, but we'll talk about it today. Also, the Daily Wire's
00:00:11.540 new comedy, Lady Ballers, premiered over the weekend and was a smash hit. Plus, a mother
00:00:15.280 begs for mercy for her son after he nearly beats his teacher to death. She says that
00:00:19.600 he's autistic and has had a hard life, should that matter to us. And a gay Fox News commentator 0.99
00:00:24.480 is congratulated by many on the right after having a baby via commercial surrogacy. Is
00:00:28.760 this the kind of thing that we should be applauding? No, I'll explain why. All of that and more
00:00:33.060 today on the Matt Wall Show.
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00:01:57.140 About 10 or 15 years ago, a successful Hollywood producer named Aaron Rousseau sat for an interview
00:02:02.640 that nobody really talks about anymore. Rousseau was a Bette Midler's manager. He worked on the film
00:02:07.580 Trading Places. And in this interview, Rousseau goes into some detail about a conversation he had
00:02:13.600 with one of the members of the Rockefeller family. Specifically, Rousseau claims that the Rockefeller
00:02:18.600 Foundation and the U.S. government spent a lot of money funding the feminist movement for reasons 1.00
00:02:24.040 that are not remotely related to equal rights or empowering women. Watch.
00:02:29.780 He was talking and he started laughing. He said, Aaron, what do you think women's liberation was about?
00:02:34.980 And I said, I'm pretty conventional thinking about it at that point. I said, I think it's about women 0.99
00:02:40.460 having the right to work, getting equal pay with men, just like they want the right to vote.
00:02:44.960 You know? And he started to laugh. He said, you're an idiot. And I said, why am I an idiot?
00:02:50.480 He said, let me tell you what that was about. We, the Rockefellers, funded that. We funded
00:02:55.460 Women's Lib, you know? And we're the ones who got all over the newspapers and television, 1.00
00:03:00.280 the Rockefeller Foundation. He says, and you want to know why? He said, there were two primary reasons.
00:03:05.660 And they were, one reason was, we couldn't tax half the population before women's Lib. And the 0.99
00:03:13.000 second reason was, now we get the kids in school at an early age. We can indoctrinate the kids how to
00:03:18.360 think. It breaks up their family. The kids start looking at the state as the family, as the school,
00:03:25.660 as the officials, as their family, not as the parents teaching them.
00:03:29.540 Now, watching that footage, there are reasons to be skeptical, even though pretty much every
00:03:35.920 conspiracy theory from the past decade has been proven correct. It's still hard to say whether
00:03:39.960 Rousseau is a credible source of information. But if Aaron Rousseau is a fraud, he has one thing that
00:03:45.560 most frauds don't have, which is corroboration. This corroboration comes in the form of a document
00:03:50.460 that was drafted not by some online troll or by a dastardly MAGA Republican or anything like that.
00:03:57.240 Instead, this document was written by a vice president at one of the most powerful left-wing
00:04:01.460 activist groups in the country, an organization you've probably heard of, called Planned Parenthood.
00:04:06.680 And every year for decades, Planned Parenthood has received hundreds of millions of dollars
00:04:10.740 of taxpayer funding. In terms of political impact, they are maybe the single most influential
00:04:16.800 non-profit in the United States. And I use the term non-profit very loosely, just like Planned
00:04:22.320 Parenthood does. About five decades ago, in 1969, Planned Parenthood produced a step-by-step 0.54
00:04:28.680 roadmap for depopulating the United States. And this document is called the Jaff Memo,
00:04:34.220 after the man who drafted it, Frederick Jaff, who is also the founder of the pro-abortion
00:04:38.100 Guttmacher Institute. He wrote the document in response to a letter from Bernard Burleson,
00:04:43.320 who was the head of the Population Council. And Burleson wanted a summary of expert opinions
00:04:47.900 on how to make sure that we have fewer people in this country. That's what the Jaff Memo is 0.98
00:04:53.280 supposed to outline, kind of a roadmap for accomplishing that. Jaff's memo makes clear
00:04:58.880 that the feminist movement is a core component of a much broader depopulation agenda. And that agenda 1.00
00:05:05.800 has been achieved, for the most part. Point by point, it has become reality, just like they drew it up.
00:05:13.100 You go back to 1969 and read this memo, and you will see from that vantage point, a look into the
00:05:20.420 future. If you want evidence that pretty much every problem facing Americans today was not just
00:05:26.300 predictable, but planned, then this memo is very interesting reading, to say the least.
00:05:33.260 And if you want to know where the depopulation agenda is heading in the future, then it's vitally
00:05:37.380 important that you understand every word of the document. So I'm going to go through the document.
00:05:41.640 This is a memo that I've alluded to at various points on this show over the years. We never
00:05:46.960 spent much time analyzing it in detail, but today we will. That's because it is maybe the single
00:05:52.460 most important document that most people have never heard of. The Jaff Memo begins with this
00:05:58.020 statement, quote, continued U.S. population growth will inevitably cause a deterioration in the quality
00:06:03.100 of life of this and future generations. The document adds that many experts believe that, quote,
00:06:08.520 explicit U.S. policy to encourage or compel smaller family size in the U.S. is necessary.
00:06:15.820 Now, what policy proposals might achieve this goal of depopulating the planet? Well, here's the first
00:06:21.080 column of a chart included at the end of the Jaff Memo. It says, quote, restructure family,
00:06:28.560 postpone or avoid marriage, alter image of ideal family size, compulsory education of children,
00:06:34.720 encourage increased homosexuality, educate for family limitation, fertility control agents in the 0.99
00:06:42.620 water supply, encourage women to work. Okay, let's go through these one by one. Restructure family, 1.00
00:06:51.040 postpone or avoid marriage. Well, they accomplished that one, obviously. In the 1960s, the median age of
00:06:56.540 first marriage for men was 23, and for women it was 20. Now the median age for men at their first
00:07:03.160 wedding is over 30, and for women it's 29. This has been a slow and steady climb, and it's still
00:07:09.240 increasing. And you have to keep in mind, of course, that for women, fertility starts to decline rapidly
00:07:14.420 at the age of 30. And now it is right at that moment, right when fertility is declining, right when
00:07:20.920 it hits the precipice and starts to decline, that women are now getting married. Now, of course, 0.99
00:07:28.400 there have always been women who marry later in life, and there's nothing wrong with that on an 0.67
00:07:31.820 individual level. But as a general societal strategy, it is a recipe for decline and eventually
00:07:38.360 disaster. And this is a recipe that was, as it turns out, quite intentionally concocted.
00:07:46.080 Now let's take the next part of the memo, alter image of ideal family size. And that happened very
00:07:50.400 quickly. The Jeff Memo was written in 1969. Just a couple of years later, Pew reports that people
00:07:55.020 suddenly wanted much smaller families. Quote,
00:07:57.300 In 1971, there was a shift in attitudes as Americans' ideal family switched from four kids
00:08:02.740 to two kids. So just as contraception is being legalized, suddenly everybody wants fewer kids.
00:08:09.460 Another goal of the anti-human forces was achieved. The Jeff Memo continues by calling on policymakers to 0.79
00:08:15.980 encourage increased homosexuality. So in 1969, they said, this is what we're going to do. 0.82
00:08:22.160 Now they appear to be doing it. And if you point out that they're doing it, of course,
00:08:26.860 that's not what we're doing. But in black and white, Planned Parenthood is saying two things at
00:08:32.960 once. First, that homosexuality can be encouraged. It's not a naturally occurring phenomenon, at least
00:08:40.300 not in their opinion, if it can be encouraged. And then Planned Parenthood is admitting that the goal
00:08:46.340 of encouraging increased homosexuality is not about equal rights. It's about curbing the human 0.98
00:08:51.120 population. In various corners of left-wing media, you'll find tacit admissions that this is the
00:08:57.820 reason they're so adamant about promoting homosexuality. The Huffington Post, for example,
00:09:02.060 published an article in 2017 entitled, Homosexuality is Population Control? Why Gays and Lesbians
00:09:08.420 Are Essential to the Balance of Nature. The article stated that, quote,
00:09:12.980 Even without a causal link established between homosexuality and population management,
00:09:17.140 the obvious reduction in population growth attributable to homosexuality by itself indubitably 0.82
00:09:22.540 works to preserve the species. Now, if you've ever wondered why it's always the case that the
00:09:29.640 climate nutjobs are in complete agreement with the LGBTQ club, if you've been curious what, you know,
00:09:36.500 environmental Marxism has in common with gay marriage, well, there's your answer. The left views 0.97
00:09:42.500 the climate agenda and the gay agenda as two components of a larger plan, which is about,
00:09:48.340 among other things, depopulating the planet. The first column of this memo ends with these two
00:09:55.340 action items. Fertility control agents and the water supply encourage women to work. Now, it goes 1.00
00:10:02.000 without saying that they have encouraged women to work. There are more women in the workforce than ever
00:10:06.860 before. There are also more women taking SSRIs and divorcing their husbands. So, you know, mission 0.81
00:10:12.560 accomplished. But the other bullet point needs some more explanation. Fertility control agents in the
00:10:18.880 water supply. I mean, what could that possibly mean? Outside of chemical spills from train derailments,
00:10:25.700 where have we seen that? Well, we have seen it. Again, pretty much no one talks about it, but it's
00:10:33.040 true. Here's an article from the Daily Mail from October 2020. Quote, birth control hormone is making
00:10:38.120 its way into streams and hindering fish's ability to reproduce. The article notes that, quote, up to 90%
00:10:44.560 of birth control is unmetabolized and flushed down the toilet. The piece continues, a 2015 study from
00:10:50.040 Washington State University found a link between synthetic estrogen and the growing decline in sperm
00:10:55.020 counts, which have plummeted up to 38% in a decade. Now, this synthetic estrogen can have effects on
00:11:02.280 humans, even in very limited concentrations. Frederick von Saul, a biology professor at the
00:11:07.380 University of Missouri, told the National Catholic Register that the fake estrogen, quote, can cause
00:11:12.560 effects in human tissue at concentrations in blood below one part per trillion. So this is an extremely
00:11:18.500 potent drug. Is that why sperm counts in men are plummeting? Is that why birth rates are dropping?
00:11:26.720 No one's been able to offer an explanation for what's happening to sperm counts, but it's clearly a
00:11:30.540 major problem. Watch. If you look at the sperm concentrations, when we last looked at them,
00:11:38.140 which was samples collected in 2011, the sperm concentration in Western countries was 47 million
00:11:44.660 per milliliter, down from 99 million per milliliter 39 years earlier. So that's a decline of more than
00:11:52.600 1% per year. And it would predict between 2011 and now, which is 10 years, that we would be now below 40
00:12:01.840 million per milliliter. And that's an important number because below 40, it becomes increasingly
00:12:08.620 difficult for couples to become pregnant. And how low it's going to go before we wake up and say,
00:12:16.380 we have to stop this. I don't know how long that's going to take, but it's urgent.
00:12:21.580 This is another one of those things that it's a catastrophic, like world changing,
00:12:28.440 potentially civilization ending problem that almost nobody talks about. And does this crisis have
00:12:36.400 anything to do with the chemicals we're putting in the water supply and in pharmaceuticals?
00:12:39.900 If so, it would be yet another bullet point achieved by Planned Parenthood in their agenda.
00:12:45.520 So let's go through the rest of it. It also says, modify tax policies, substantial marriage tax,
00:12:51.680 tax married more than single, reduce, eliminate paid maternity leave or benefits. 0.57
00:12:58.300 Now, for most couples, we don't have any kind of tax penalty for marriage in this country,
00:13:02.640 at least not officially, not yet. That's one element of the Jaff memo that remains unfulfilled,
00:13:08.880 but maternity leave and benefits are definitely on the decline. CNBC reports that, quote,
00:13:14.000 in 2022, organizations offering employees paid maternity leave dropped to 35% from 53% in 2020.
00:13:21.620 Currently, there isn't a federal paid leave program and only 11 states plus the District of
00:13:26.260 Columbia offer the benefit. Then if you go down the list, back to the Jaff memo, you'll find these two
00:13:32.840 words, chronic depression. That's under the column heading of economic deterrence slash incentives
00:13:38.600 for depopulating the planet. So they want to make sure that as many people are as depressed as
00:13:44.100 possible. And then because they're depressed, they won't want to start a family. Now, this is something
00:13:48.820 that you never hear anyone say out loud. We're supposed to pretend that everyone's trying to prevent
00:13:52.520 chronic depression, that the SSRIs are making everything better, et cetera. But at least for Planned
00:13:59.020 Parenthood and the rest of these eugenicists, depression has some upside. And when we look at the fact 0.73
00:14:05.000 that we know that these antidepressant drugs that everyone's taking, that they've been prescribed
00:14:11.680 under false pretenses of curing a chemical imbalance that doesn't exist. And you see that,
00:14:17.680 and you see that they're still being prescribed, even though they don't work. And you wonder why
00:14:23.020 that's the case. Well, maybe for the powers that be, they're not supposed to work.
00:14:29.120 And they also, we know, they don't want anyone owning any property. Back to the Jaff memo says,
00:14:33.400 quote, housing policies, discouragement of private home ownership. That's a version of the WEF's line
00:14:40.160 about how you'll own nothing and be happy. And Planned Parenthood wrote it all the way back in
00:14:44.980 1969. Then there's the last column, quote, payments to encourage sterilization, payments to encourage
00:14:51.500 contraception, payments to encourage abortion, abortion and sterilization on demand, allow certain
00:14:57.940 contraceptives to be distributed non-medically, improve contraception technology, make
00:15:03.280 contraception truly available and accessible to all. Well, again, mission accomplished. With
00:15:09.500 Planned Parenthood leading the charge, so-called gender-affirming care, quote unquote, is now
00:15:14.100 available on demand in much of the country. Children could take hormones that will sterilize
00:15:18.020 them for life. Meanwhile, major corporations are paying employees to fly out of state to murder
00:15:23.760 their children. Now, of course, not everything in the Jaff memo has come true. Compulsory abortion, 0.94
00:15:29.100 for example, is not yet the law of the land. We're not forcing people to commit murder, at least not
00:15:35.080 yet. But that may be coming sooner than you think. Consider the fact that euthanasia, known as MAID or
00:15:42.760 medical assistance in dying, is now the sixth leading cause of death in Canada. And MAID does not require
00:15:49.400 a terminal diagnosis in Canada. In fact, Canada's government is killing some people simply because
00:15:54.200 they're disabled or mentally ill or can't find housing. They're even planning to open MAID up
00:16:00.520 to so-called mature minors nationwide. And disabled people in Canada are openly talking about this.
00:16:07.740 They're talking about the fact that the government is eager to kill them. Watch.
00:16:13.380 If you call the number on the government website, they will provide doctors that will sign off for you.
00:16:20.480 Like many disabled Canadians, she is stuck in a cycle of poverty and despair.
00:16:26.420 There's no hope for anybody in Ontario. That's a good boy.
00:16:30.140 So she's planning to end her life with the government's help. 1.00
00:16:34.820 They could have me dead in 90 days. That's what I was told.
00:16:38.800 Like in my case, the problem is not really the disability. It is the poverty.
00:16:43.580 Les Landry is in the same position, wanting to live, but seeing no other option than death.
00:16:50.700 These two are for my asthma. This is for my COPD. Since when did we stop looking at the value of
00:16:56.940 human life in this country? It's a question people with disabilities and their advocates ask constantly.
00:17:02.940 So full-on dystopian future has been achieved in Canada, and it's heading here as well.
00:17:12.660 And what is Canada's government doing about this? Are they trying to reverse course?
00:17:16.920 Are they trying to find a way to help these people live?
00:17:20.920 Just the opposite, actually. Just this week, Statistics Canada, which is the agency in Canada's
00:17:25.160 government that catalogs how people are dying in Canada, announced on social media that it's
00:17:30.840 effectively going to start hiding the statistics on MAID. And here's what they wrote about their
00:17:35.520 record-keeping practices going forward. Quote, the underlying cause of death is defined as the
00:17:39.840 disease or injury that initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death. As such,
00:17:46.100 MAID deaths are coded to the underlying condition for which MAID was requested. In response to that
00:17:52.880 post, one Canadian asked for some clarification. He wrote, quote, how do you classify people with a
00:17:57.580 disability that do not have a foreseeable death or people that chose MAID because of mental health
00:18:01.980 issues? And here's how the agency responded to that. Quote, deaths are coded using the World Health
00:18:07.000 Organization's international classification of disease and related health problems. In the case of
00:18:12.160 a disability, deaths are coded to the underlying disability or mental health issue that MAID was
00:18:17.020 granted for. So in other words, if somebody is depressed and the Canadian government puts them down like
00:18:22.120 dogs, Canada will record that as a death due to depression, not euthanasia or suicide.
00:18:30.360 Now, if it doesn't seem like something like this could ever happen here, you should know that
00:18:34.900 already efforts are underway to bring MAID to the United States. In November, at a meeting of the
00:18:39.560 American Medical Association, a resolution was proposed to remove this line from the association's
00:18:45.360 guidelines. Quote, physicians must not perform euthanasia or perform assisted suicide.
00:18:50.920 And instead of that line, members of the AMA proposed this revision, quote,
00:18:56.280 resolved that our American Medical Association adopt a neutral stance on medical aid in dying and
00:19:01.460 respect the autonomy and right of self-determination of patients and physicians in this matter.
00:19:07.200 So at this rate, it's only a matter of time before we adopt Canada's MAID program wholesale in this
00:19:12.660 country. It's only a matter of time until we have a marriage tax, just like the ones Frederick Jaffe was 0.98
00:19:17.580 writing about. With every passing year, we get closer and closer to realizing every single wish
00:19:23.340 list item on the Jaffe memo. We've seen this agenda unfold in front of our eyes for decades.
00:19:29.220 It's right there in front of us. It's not happening naturally. It's not inevitable. It was pre-planned.
00:19:36.700 And even now, it's still in progress. Now, when you realize that, it puts the fake debates over
00:19:43.140 climate change and quote-unquote gender-affirming care in context. Whatever branding they come up
00:19:48.880 with, the end goal is and has always been the same. Depopulation. It is an anti-human agenda.
00:19:55.380 And that is where all this activism leads. You could choose to believe that it's a coincidence.
00:20:03.940 You could come up with some alternative theory for why every single left-wing cause happens to
00:20:09.460 match perfectly with the Jaffe memo and with the people that outlined their plan to depopulate the
00:20:14.600 planet. But whatever the case, there's one thing you can't deny, which is that all the way back in
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00:21:35.240 Well, it's a huge weekend for us here at The Daily Wire. Our comedy film, Lady Ballers, has been
00:21:40.380 a smash hit. Audiences love the film. Critics are trying to ignore it for the most part, as expected.
00:21:46.340 The left is mad. All that stuff is to be expected. But the great thing has been to see, you know,
00:21:52.000 fans rallying around the film, both because of the message, but also because it's just a very good
00:21:57.620 comedy. And, you know, there's a ton of awards chatter surrounding many of the performances in the
00:22:02.740 film. People didn't realize it, but we are a company full of thespians here at The Daily Wire.
00:22:10.740 Or maybe not thespians, but, you know, close enough. In fact, I think the genesis of this film
00:22:18.460 and how it came to be and how we filmed it is hilarious in its own right. I mean, that's a comedy
00:22:24.520 film all on its own. And it also shows why The Daily Wire is unique, you know, what's special about
00:22:29.540 the company? Because first of all, you know, we had the same thought that many conservatives have
00:22:34.880 had over the years, which is that somebody should really make a sports comedy about, you know, making
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00:22:45.840 You know, that movie should exist. And conservatives will often lament things like that, whether it's
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00:22:53.240 And so the brilliance of the idea is that it's not like a brilliant idea. It's incredibly obvious.
00:23:00.960 It's a ball sitting on a tee for just waiting for someone to come along and take a swing.
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00:23:17.300 but the guy who wrote that review said that he had an idea for, you know, a comedy film almost
00:23:24.620 exactly like this, that he pitched to The Daily Wire after we had already filmed ours.
00:23:32.880 So that just shows how this is like, it's just, it's just there. Someone has to do it.
00:23:38.240 And the difference is that we said, well, you know, someone should really make that film. And then we
00:23:43.400 decided, well, I guess we will. But the problem is to make a film, you need actors. And most actors
00:23:50.720 are not willing to touch a movie like this with a 10 foot pole. We know movie studios aren't willing
00:23:56.380 to touch it either, but we can take care of that. We can be our own movie studio. But in terms of
00:24:01.220 getting actors, even, even the very few selection of so-called conservative actors, many of them,
00:24:08.540 you know, Jeremy has talked about this, that even actors who you think are on our side,
00:24:12.660 what few of them, when push came to shove, and we reached out to them about this film,
00:24:16.740 many of them, you know, it just, it went too far for them. They didn't want to do it.
00:24:22.060 And so we said, all right, well, we'll just have to play the characters ourselves, I guess.
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00:25:15.500 just a tour de force, artistic brilliance. That extremely elevated master class level
00:25:22.620 is difficult. And it takes a lot of work and practice. But of course, that's not what you're
00:25:31.000 looking for with a slapstick sports comedy anyway. But the vast majority of actors in Hollywood are
00:25:37.420 not at that level. And they just turn in kind of serviceable, fine acting jobs. You look at any
00:25:44.480 average superhero movie, these are the movies that make all the money. Well, not so much anymore,
00:25:49.620 but used to. And the acting is like, yeah, it's fine. I mean, I buy it. I buy that that person is
00:25:55.460 that character. It's not like a beautiful performance. It's not riveting, but it's like,
00:26:00.820 it's fine. And that is actually not hard to do. Because all you're doing is just pretending.
00:26:09.120 You're just pretending that you're playing pretend. It's like something that everyone did when they
00:26:13.940 were kids. You just have to get over the embarrassment. That's like the whole thing,
00:26:17.940 just getting over the embarrassment. Once you get over the embarrassment, it's like, it's not,
00:26:21.240 it's not that difficult. I was talking about this earlier and someone said on Twitter and someone
00:26:26.180 said, well, no, you need to get, this, this is, you need to get real, real actors. What do you mean
00:26:32.260 a real, what the hell is a real actor? A real, you know, trust the experts, trust the experts of
00:26:37.400 playing pretend. You know, you need, you need the experts for that. You got to call in the experts who
00:26:42.040 can, Hey, we need someone to pretend to be this thing. Well, I got to get an expert in for that.
00:26:46.080 Get the experts, get the trained experts on that one.
00:26:51.520 You know, it's not, and that's why like historically the acting profession
00:26:56.300 was not considered to be, it was not this, we didn't worship,
00:27:03.440 right? Like in Shakespeare's day, actors were not worshiped as gods like they are now.
00:27:09.460 In fact, it was considered like a relatively lowly profession.
00:27:11.980 And if you kind of see why, um, all right, let's see, I want to move on to this. New York
00:27:22.160 Post has this, has this article, the mother of the hulking Florida teen who beat his female 0.92
00:27:28.620 teacher unconscious over a Nintendo switch video game claim that prison time would be a death
00:27:34.340 sentence for her convicted son. Leanna Deppa, who pleaded for leniency for the now 18 year old
00:27:41.080 Brendan Deppa, who faces up to 30 years behind bars for slamming, uh, Montanza's high school
00:27:47.640 paraprofessional, Joanne Nadick to the floor before kicking and punching her in the back and head more 1.00
00:27:53.460 than a dozen times. And the video of that attack, you've probably seen it. We played it on the show.
00:27:57.880 We don't have to play it again. It's just, um, a brutal savage attack on this woman. And, and
00:28:05.000 thank God did not kill her, but, but could have easily killed her. In her first public appearance 0.97
00:28:10.880 since the February beatdown, the grieving mother Wednesday begged Nadick to request that the six
00:28:16.140 foot six teenager be handed a lighter punishment. Um, but as of now, the teacher has said that she 0.87
00:28:24.100 wants her attacker sentenced to the maximum of 30 years behind bars. Um, here is the mother on News
00:28:31.700 Nation talking about this. Let's watch it. I am so sorry for what my son did and, um, nobody, nobody
00:28:39.780 should ever have to go through that. But at the same time, please consider that my son has had a hard
00:28:47.880 life and he's gone through so much trauma in his life. He has autism. Please show mercy to him.
00:28:57.260 It's devastating that, um, my heart is breaking. Um, I'm terrified for my child. I, you know, I feel
00:29:09.220 like if he gets sentenced to prison, it's a death sentence for him. Um, he's scared and to have your
00:29:16.260 child call and cry and say, I don't want to die. Um, it's, it's awful. And I don't understand why
00:29:24.480 that, um, um, in his IEP, it was stated that in the intensive behavior group home that he was living
00:29:32.020 in, if they ever had to remove it as a consequence, they called in the crisis team and, um, the original
00:29:40.620 IEP called for a token economy or, um, so he could motivate him to do his work. He could earn, uh, tokens
00:29:49.580 to then go to like a snack closet. Um, this year he had a new teacher who, um, it's not Joan. Joan was not his
00:29:58.780 teacher. She's a para. Um, he had a new teacher who, um, it was her first year teaching and she didn't, I
00:30:07.680 don't know if she didn't understand the IEP, if she didn't read it, but she approached the group home and asked the
00:30:13.940 group home to send it in. Listen, for anybody who watches that video, it's, it's hard for them to get
00:30:18.980 past it. And I can understand they'd, they'd be devastated for, for Joan Adich, the, um, the victim
00:30:24.120 in this, in this attack. And, and I can imagine you feel. Uh, so a couple of things there. First of
00:30:29.000 all, I give a lot of credit to the teacher for demanding justice. And, uh, maybe that seems like
00:30:34.520 something that doesn't take a lot of courage because, well, yeah, you got attacked and of course you
00:30:38.160 want the person punished. But, um, these days it shouldn't require courage for a victim to demand
00:30:43.460 justice, but these days it does. I mean, how many times have we seen victims in these situations
00:30:48.580 disgrace themselves after the fact by making excuses for the attacker? I mean, we've, we've,
00:30:56.960 we've even seen family members of victims who were killed turn around and say, well, you know,
00:31:04.920 I'm sure the person who committed the crime was disadvantaged by the system. I'm sure they
00:31:11.120 lived a hard life. I mean, it's, it's disgusting. It's actually disgusting. And especially from
00:31:18.200 family members. I, I'm sorry. You know, I don't know we shouldn't judge people going through
00:31:22.180 something so difficult, but anytime you see one of these videos, like your own family member was
00:31:27.320 killed and your, your first thought is like, let's be nice to the, but we know why they do that.
00:31:35.800 It's, it's, it's, it's bowing to a social pressure. It's this political correctness and wokeness that,
00:31:42.080 um, people even in moments of crisis will still abide by. So I give a lot of credit to her for
00:31:50.180 not playing that game. She wants justice. She's demanding it and she should get it as for the 1.00
00:31:57.040 attacker here. You know, I get why his mom, uh, is pleading for mercy. I don't blame her really
00:32:04.060 for having that opinion. Um, I do blame her a little bit for putting the victim on the spot. 0.99
00:32:10.360 I mean, if you want to go on TV and say, um, yeah, I want my son, he's, he's, he's not as bad,
00:32:17.240 whatever. You want to go on TV and talk about how he's really a good kid and all the rest of it. I
00:32:21.920 mean, it's kind of hard to believe, but, um, as the mother, I don't blame you for that. Putting
00:32:27.180 the victim on the spot though and saying, I'm sorry, this happened to you, but like there's
00:32:33.820 no, but there you don't, you don't start your next sentence with a, but I'm sorry. My son knocked
00:32:40.080 you to the ground and beat you sent senselessly. But at the same time, even as the mom in this
00:32:48.080 situation, you're still called to have some empathy yourself. So if you want to, if you want people to
00:32:54.200 have empathy for your son, then you need to show some and saying, I'm sorry, this happened to you,
00:32:59.660 but no, but so if I was her, you know, you leave the victim. You don't say anything about it. You
00:33:08.200 just, you don't have the right to do that. You just don't have the right to call on the victim
00:33:13.680 to be nice about this. You want to call on the court system. You want to just kind of generally
00:33:20.080 advocate on your son's behalf. I get it. But yeah, in fact, I do, I do blame her for
00:33:28.540 sort of using this public emotional manipulation against the victim specifically. You just have
00:33:37.960 no right to do that. And whether we understand the mother's feeling here or not doesn't matter
00:33:48.620 because I think the answer from the court system should be no. Please have mercy on my son. No.
00:33:58.320 We will not have mercy. This man, and he is a man. He's not a kid. He's 18 now. This man has to
00:34:06.080 be removed from society. He has to be segregated from civilized society. He is not fit to be a part
00:34:11.420 of society. He cannot be allowed to walk free. It's that simple. Autistic, hard life, emotionally
00:34:19.540 troubled, whatever. Doesn't matter. Like, I don't care, actually. Oh, my son's autistic. Don't care.
00:34:27.880 I would have cared before this. Before he, you know, pounced on top of that woman and tried to 0.77
00:34:39.960 beat her to death. If he had told me before that, my son has autism, I would have cared. I would have
00:34:45.420 been very sympathetic. But after that happens, I don't care anymore. And I know that that makes me
00:34:51.960 cruel in most people's eyes. Because I know that these days, you know, that's the kind of thing
00:34:56.480 somebody brings up, something like this happens, someone brings up autism. It's supposed to be,
00:35:01.160 oh, well, okay, well, in that case, I decided. No, I don't care. He should still go to prison
00:35:06.960 forever. In fact, 30 years, I give him, 30 years is too light. I'd put him in jail forever.
00:35:13.340 Never to see free, never to walk free again. Because he did what he did, and that's it.
00:35:19.420 He demonstrated that he is a danger to society, and that is all that matters now.
00:35:26.500 Here's how I look at it. Either he brutally attacked the woman because he's autistic and 1.00
00:35:32.720 doesn't know any better, which I don't buy, by the way. Maybe he's autistic, maybe he's not. I don't
00:35:37.880 know. The fact that that would mean that he doesn't know any better, I don't buy that.
00:35:42.600 But either that's the case, in which case he certainly cannot be trusted in society ever again,
00:35:48.620 if you're telling me that this is a kid, quote unquote, who you need a crisis management team
00:35:55.020 on staff to take his Nintendo Switch away, and he's six foot six, right, 200 plus whatever pounds,
00:36:04.460 and you need to have a whole SWAT team on staff just to take his... We cannot ever trust him
00:36:09.920 anywhere in society. Would you want to ride on a bus next to that guy? Would you want him living next
00:36:15.680 door to you? No. He's a danger to everyone if that's how he is. It doesn't matter why.
00:36:26.040 If that's the case, if he doesn't know any better and he can't help it, he's a danger to society,
00:36:29.740 he has to be removed from society. If he attacked the woman because he wanted to,
00:36:35.300 and he could have chosen otherwise, but he just decided to do it because he wanted to,
00:36:39.060 well, then he can't be trusted in society ever again. Either way, the conclusion is the same.
00:36:42.400 In fact, you could argue, I think quite convincingly, that if some kind of mental
00:36:47.920 handicap caused this, that's even more reason to permanently segregate him from society.
00:36:54.260 This is what I will never understand about the mental challenges excuse. Because if it's true, 1.00
00:37:00.840 then that's all the more reason why this person cannot ever... If they're not even capable of
00:37:06.440 understanding why they shouldn't do that, obviously they can never be trusted in society
00:37:11.580 ever again. You know, if he's being driven by forces outside of his control to lash out violently,
00:37:17.480 well, that's very sad. But it makes him a danger to society, and we have to respond to that danger.
00:37:23.880 I've said this many times. We must choose between mercy for innocent victims or mercy for violent
00:37:31.120 thugs. You cannot show mercy to both. You can't. Anyone who tells you can is lying.
00:37:37.260 One or the other, zero-sum game. Mercy to one group comes at the expense of the other.
00:37:44.500 So who should lose here? Like, someone has to lose. Either we put innocent people in danger by
00:37:50.820 being merciful to dangerous people, or we punish dangerous people. And those dangerous people are
00:37:56.240 going to live terrible, awful lives for the rest of their lives. I mean, the idea of being locked in
00:37:59.720 a cage for the next 30 years is awful. Like, it's a terrible thing that this man, his whole life is
00:38:09.600 wasted now. It's awful. It's terrible. It really is. It's really terrible. But either we say too bad
00:38:17.820 to him, or we say it to his next victim. Those are the choices. Like, someone gets the short end of
00:38:26.460 the stick. Somebody loses. And so who should lose? Who should the justice system prioritize?
00:38:34.840 The woman who got beat half to death, or the guy who did the beating? I mean, it's not even a question,
00:38:42.960 or it shouldn't be. It's not even a difficult ethical, people say, oh, it's so difficult,
00:38:47.020 so many difficult ethical. No, it's not. It's really easy. It's super easy.
00:38:55.080 There are a lot of emotions that are maybe tied up in it, but in terms of what is the right thing to do,
00:38:59.620 really easy. The other problem with the mental illness excuse is that literally everyone who
00:39:07.100 commits a brutally violent crime could be or has been diagnosed with something. Okay, all of these
00:39:14.460 people by definition are mentally deficient in some way. A lot of them have very low IQs. A lot of them
00:39:21.500 suffer from whatever delusions. A lot of them have trouble controlling their emotions. A lot of them
00:39:26.560 have trauma in their past. I mean, you don't go out and commit a barbaric crime that's sure to land you
00:39:33.840 in prison for decades unless you are a mentally disturbed person. And like I said, even aside from 0.74
00:39:40.400 the mental illnesses, low IQ plays a factor here. You watch any of these videos of somebody like
00:39:48.020 brutally just on camera in front of everyone, savagely beating someone. In most of those cases,
00:39:54.540 if you were to measure that person's IQ, it's probably like 60. And you could probably say,
00:39:59.980 well, if that person had like even 30 more IQ points, they might not even have done that because
00:40:03.700 they'd be smart enough to know that however you are feeling, you can't react that way because
00:40:08.740 it's going to ruin your life. And maybe that's probably true. But so what? These are crimes that
00:40:18.240 by their nature are only ever committed by people who have, to use the modern phrase, mental health
00:40:24.980 challenges. And so, and okay, so how does that change anything? You often hear people say when
00:40:36.780 they're calling for us to be compassionate, they say, well, put yourself in that person's shoes.
00:40:41.960 You know, if you were raised that way, if you were abandoned as a child, if you were abused,
00:40:45.660 if you ended up in foster care, you know, if you had a low IQ, as I'm sure this person does,
00:40:50.720 uh, if you had, if you were autistic, if you had, right, like you take it, take me and,
00:40:56.820 and put me, like, give me all the exact same circumstances as that guy, everything exactly
00:41:02.740 the same as him. I'd probably do what he did because I'd, I'd like, I'd be him. And so it
00:41:08.100 stands a reason I just, since I'm him, I'm doing whatever he does. That to me, that's like,
00:41:12.960 it's a truism, but it doesn't, it doesn't mean anything functionally for the justice system
00:41:17.980 because one of the primary functions here is to segregate dangerous people from society.
00:41:26.040 That's not the only function of the justice system. It is also to punish evil.
00:41:30.340 And what he did is evil and it should be punished, autistic or not. But the other big thing is to, 1.00
00:41:37.300 is to protect society. And when it comes to that function, it really doesn't matter why
00:41:45.780 you did it. All that matters when it comes to that part of it is, are you a danger to others?
00:41:57.720 And if you are, you, you just, you cannot be a part of society. That's it.
00:42:03.560 It'd be like if you said, if you said, oh no, don't punish that man for stealing.
00:42:07.160 You don't understand. He struggles with greed. He's very greedy. That's why he stole. He struggles
00:42:12.420 with it. Yeah, we get that. Kind of picked up on that based on context clues. That's not an excuse
00:42:18.700 though. That's just like a description. All right. One other thing briefly, uh, that we have to make
00:42:27.360 at least some time for daily wire has this report. The U S government is not being fully transparent
00:42:31.500 about what it means about UFOs. According to a journalist who just wrote a book on the topic,
00:42:36.380 Garrett Graff, author of UFO, the inside story of the U S government search for alien life
00:42:41.400 here and out there shared insights into his work as, as, uh, into his work during an interview on
00:42:47.480 NBC news with a host Chuck Todd. Let's watch a little bit of that interview. What is one thing
00:42:54.220 you've learned about UFOs that the public doesn't know about? Well, I think there are a couple of
00:43:01.720 things that stand out for me right at the top here. Um, the first, as you covered in some of the
00:43:06.080 previous segment, that there is something real here. There are things out there in our airspace
00:43:12.720 that we do not understand what they are. Um, and that those could represent, uh, exquisite new
00:43:19.120 adversary technology, but they could also represent science that we don't understand atmospheric,
00:43:25.320 meteorological, and astronomical science that we don't yet understand. And that I believe that there
00:43:31.400 are the government is covering up some level of its knowledge and understanding about what some of
00:43:38.280 those things are. Um, you know, both in, in terms of what chunk of that is our government's own secret
00:43:44.760 development programs, uh, you know, planes, drones, new technologies that we're working on,
00:43:49.880 as well as what we're sensing and detecting of advanced adversary technology, uh, you know,
00:43:57.420 being tested against us forces, uh, or around us airspace. Um, what I'm unconvinced of is that the
00:44:05.440 government is covering up meaningful knowledge of, uh, you know, alien spacecraft, alien visitors,
00:44:15.180 extraterrestrial contact. Um, I, I just don't see the extraordinary evidence, uh, or the fingers
00:44:22.620 of the coverup that one would expect if that was the, in fact, the case. Well, so it's interesting
00:44:29.780 there is that he's, uh, you know, in my mind, I think that there is a coverup of specific knowledge
00:44:35.720 of, uh, this kind of activity and, uh, and this technology. And so his, his, the position that he's
00:44:42.460 taking is like relatively moderate, but it's, it's a common sense position, which is that we know this
00:44:50.420 technology exists. We, we can see it. Like it's a fact. We know that there's stuff going on in the,
00:44:56.460 in the skies involving, um, craft involving technology that, that far exceeds our own
00:45:04.640 understanding of what is even possible. Um, and we know that, and it's, it's just, it's, it,
00:45:12.900 it, it's a fact that it, and it should matter to people. People should care about it.
00:45:21.580 And this book that he's got, I don't know anything else about this guy. He's got this book. It should
00:45:26.300 be, it could be, it should be a big number one bestseller and it probably won't be. That's the
00:45:33.240 bad news I have for him. Spent all his time writing a book. Uh, and, uh, and he probably thinks,
00:45:40.780 oh, this is, this is a bombshell. It's the best. No one's going to buy it. Garrett, I hate to tell
00:45:45.880 you. I will. I'll be your one customer. Like nobody else cares. They should, but they don't.
00:45:53.140 I was thinking about this today that, because of course I think about this topic every day
00:45:56.720 that I think if not for the sort of like paradoxically, if not for the internet and social
00:46:04.120 media, people would care a lot more about this stuff. That, cause it, it's always interesting
00:46:10.540 when you go back and you look at the famous, uh, UFO sightings from back in like the 50s,
00:46:17.200 60s, 70s, 80s, even the nineties. And you go back and you, you, you, you watch, uh, you
00:46:24.660 know, a documentary or an unsolved mystery about one of those. And one thing you always notice
00:46:29.480 is that it's all over the news. People were talking about it. It was like a big deal at the
00:46:33.860 time. Front page headline news, right? Top above the fold. And, um, aside from what they're
00:46:42.760 reporting, like to me, aside from, from the, the UFO itself, that is like the second most
00:46:49.020 shocking thing is that when you look back then people really cared about this. When there
00:46:55.840 was like credible reports of unexplained phenomena in the skies, these, it's, there was an intense
00:47:06.360 amount of public interest. Why is there public interest? Cause it's like, it's above all,
00:47:11.200 above everything else. There's public interest because it's interesting. It's an interesting
00:47:16.000 thing to talk about and think about. There's mystery. There's, there's, you know, wonder.
00:47:22.720 There's all these, these deep questions of our place in the universe and of the universe
00:47:28.960 itself. That's interesting. And that's how people used to see these kinds of stories,
00:47:38.960 but now in the social, and you would think if you didn't know any better and you had to
00:47:42.360 predict, you would think that the internet and social media would just throw that into
00:47:46.340 hyperdrive. Cause now we're seeing all this stuff all the time and there'd be, you know,
00:47:50.220 there'd be, there'd be even more interest, but it's had the opposite effect. I think because
00:47:55.980 people are so, it's just, there's so much information coming at us all the time and
00:48:00.800 everybody is numb. And so when you have things like this that are fascinating, everyone just
00:48:09.200 kind of yawns and turns away and leaves me to talk about it alone on a podcast that everyone
00:48:17.940 has already now turned off because I started talking about this again. It's a tragedy.
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00:49:33.800 starts now. Okay, a couple comments here. KDick says, man, that's some cringe Elon crisis management
00:49:41.380 atoning for Elon's anti-Semitism after Netanyahu welcomed Elon more warmly than Netanyahu did Biden.
00:49:48.900 Context, Elon did not provide free starling for Ukraine when under Russian assault. Mr. Musk does
00:49:55.000 nothing for mankind ever. Now the comment says, America is a capitalist country. It's okay for
00:49:59.780 companies to decide where to spend their advertising dollars. It's okay to refuse to kowtow to bigots.
00:50:05.200 Last week, he disenfranchised companies with his anti-Semitism. This week, he doubled down.
00:50:09.760 Another says, Elon's feelings are hurt because advertisers don't want anything to do with his
00:50:14.980 failing platform. Pretty easy to tell a group of people to F off when they've already told you to
00:50:20.140 F off, LOL. I just want to respond to one point here about corporations being private companies who
00:50:27.240 can do whatever they want. When it comes to this feud between Elon Musk and these corporate advertisers
00:50:35.180 who are trying to blackmail him, this has come up again. And it shows the one area. What's interesting
00:50:42.560 is it shows the one area where the left historically in recent history was right, correct, and the right
00:50:53.080 missed the mark. But now the left is abandoning their one correct position,
00:50:58.940 which is about the problem of multi-billion dollar corporations controlling our system.
00:51:07.920 And for years, as I remember it, it wasn't all that long ago when leftists were critics of
00:51:15.060 corporations. That's what they like to occupy Wall Street, for example. And leftists were constantly
00:51:23.200 going on about corporations and evil corporations. And then people on the right tended to reflexively
00:51:28.440 defend big business. And the right said that it's all about free markets. And so we're defenders of
00:51:33.600 big business. And the left pointed out that, well, the market isn't really free. The distinction
00:51:38.960 between governmental power and corporate power is now basically irrelevant. The government uses
00:51:44.760 corporations to wield power and vice versa. And so there's almost, it's like you can't really,
00:51:51.340 there's no meaningful distinction anymore. And these are the things, these are the points that the
00:51:56.880 left used to make. But now if you've noticed, they don't really say that anymore. You don't,
00:52:01.620 you don't hear, I think maybe 2016 with Bernie Sanders was the last time when you commonly heard
00:52:07.880 people on the left going on and on about the evil corporations. It was already kind of on the wane in
00:52:13.980 2016, but now you, like you barely hear it at all anymore. And they dropped all of that. They dropped it
00:52:21.760 because instead they wanted to rally around the same corporate interests like the pharmaceutical
00:52:31.040 industry and the corporate media and Disney and Target and Bud Light and so on. So it's been a kind
00:52:41.900 of a fascinating switching of places that's gone on where the right woke up to the problem of corporate
00:52:50.920 tyranny. Finally, took a while. And while the right is waking up to that problem, the left,
00:52:59.640 which, which had been aware of it, has now fallen asleep. And, uh, and that's where we are now.
00:53:07.260 And the ultimate effect is that like, if you're on the left, you look at the last 30 years of leftism
00:53:13.660 in this country, they've been right about maybe one thing and they were not even completely right,
00:53:22.300 but they were generally right about the corporations is the one single thing. And they've abandoned that
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00:54:41.200 Sawbuck's looking a little chubby-wubby. So I bought him some new food. It's organic and vegan.
00:54:47.140 Dogs are supposed to eat meat. They're descendants of wolves. You ever see a vegan wolf on the Nature
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00:55:01.460 Don't do anything stupid. Er than last year. I'm a heteronormative, cisgendered, white male.
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00:55:52.120 Hey, I'm done. I'm going back to bed. Thanks a lot.
00:56:11.580 Now let's get to our Daily Cancellation.
00:56:35.740 Last week, Fox News commentator Guy Benson became the latest high-profile, or at least
00:56:46.960 moderate-profile gay man in politics or media to announce the birth of a child through surrogacy.
00:56:53.620 Parade magazine delivered the news. What a Thanksgiving gift. Fox News commentator Guy Benson
00:56:58.380 and his husband Adam Wise became first-time fathers over the holiday weekend. The couple,
00:57:03.000 who married in 2019 in a lavish Napa ceremony, exclusively shares with Parade the details of
00:57:09.060 their son's arrival. Conrad James Benson Wise arrived at 3.42 a.m. Central Time on Saturday,
00:57:16.340 November 25th, via surrogate. The baby boy weighed eight pounds, 12 ounces. Quote,
00:57:21.220 we are totally in love. So excited, and he's doing great. Benson, who hosts the Guy Benson show on Fox
00:57:25.420 News Radio, as a Fox News contributor, tells Parade, it's a challenge as a new parent and involves so
00:57:29.920 much feeding, crying, diaper changes, and staying on schedule. But it's a privilege to do it, and
00:57:34.420 we're over the moon. In this exclusive interview with Parade, Benson shares the sweet story behind
00:57:39.020 Conrad's name, what songs they're already singing to the newborn, and how all the cliches about
00:57:43.560 parenting are true. Benson says he's already totally transformed in ways he could never imagine.
00:57:49.720 Now, I wanted to read that line about the exclusive interview. In order to head off at the pass,
00:57:55.160 anyone who would try to claim that it's somehow out of bounds for me to have an opinion on this
00:58:00.220 subject? Anyone who might tell me to mind my own business? Well, Guy Benson went to a media outlet
00:58:06.880 and gave them an exclusive interview about the birth of his child, along with providing photos.
00:58:13.240 I can tell you, at no point before or after the births of any of my six children did it ever occur
00:58:18.300 to me or my wife to contact anyone in the media and offer them an exclusive, you know, an exclusive.
00:58:24.240 They got an exclusive for you. Here's a real scoop. We just had more kids. And when you do that with
00:58:31.020 your private life, you've offered your private life up for public discussion. You're saying to
00:58:37.160 the public, hey, I really want you to know about this personal detail of my life. And then once we
00:58:44.640 know, you cannot control what we think or say about it. And you cannot be offended, at least you cannot
00:58:50.540 be justifiably offended, if some of us think that the story is actually quite disturbing. And then we
00:58:56.580 say so. And I am saying so because that is what I think. You know, I often talk about the fact that
00:59:02.540 positions that were nearly ubiquitous 20 years ago are now considered radically right-wing.
00:59:07.720 There are a lot of examples of this kind of shift, of course, but perhaps no example
00:59:10.880 better illustrates the general trend than this particular issue. 20 years ago,
00:59:15.960 virtually nobody thought it was a good idea for two men to buy a woman's eggs and rent a woman's 0.55
00:59:22.900 womb in order to grow a child that they would then raise apart from the child's own mother.
00:59:28.680 Even the most liberal of Democrats, Barack Obama, would have been opposed to such an arrangement.
00:59:34.780 And now following the general trend, we've landed on the opposite extreme. It's suddenly treated as
00:59:40.280 though it is unquestionably and self-evidently good for gay men to rent a woman's body for the 0.96
00:59:45.980 sake of incubating a child that will grow up motherless. Now people act as though they can't
00:59:51.280 even understand the contrary position, which is a position that many of those exact same people held
00:59:56.040 up until 14 seconds ago. The shift is so dramatic that unsurprisingly, a great many conservative
01:00:01.800 media figures congratulated Guy Benson on the birth of his surrogate's baby. And, you know,
01:00:07.900 everyone seems to have decided that the thing that we all knew was wrong forever is actually right.
01:00:14.640 And yet nobody can explain this change of heart. Nobody can say what exactly led them to this new
01:00:20.460 conclusion. Those of us who have remained on Team Sanity have no trouble articulating our view.
01:00:28.180 In fact, our position is so solid, so intuitively correct, that we can prove our point simply by
01:00:34.120 letting the other side speak. And if they speak for long enough, like 20 seconds or so, the horror of
01:00:40.960 commercial surrogacy becomes painfully evident. So for example, here's a recent viral clip of two gay 0.96
01:00:47.120 men on a podcast talking about the process that they underwent to have a child through egg donation
01:00:52.780 and surrogacy. And just listen to the way that they talk about it. Listen.
01:00:58.620 How much does it cost?
01:00:59.620 We probably spent a quarter of a million quid.
01:01:03.660 The first time we were meant to go to America, and then we couldn't because of COVID. So we ended
01:01:08.460 up working with a clinic in San Diego, and we went to Mexico.
01:01:11.660 I mean, we were slightly knobheads at this reason as well, because I wanted to make sure that we knew
01:01:16.780 who the egg donor was. I wanted them to be super fit. You go to the bar and you go,
01:01:21.560 I'm going to procreate that person, right? That's your choice as a human. I wanted to find someone that
01:01:26.160 I know is going to be absolute smoke show. Basically, we chose Emily Bretonowski. 0.95
01:01:30.200 So there's a company in LA, and they have a company that basically is supermodels who are
01:01:35.540 Ivy League educated. So they have to have gone to like Brown, Columbia. Oh, and went to Columbia.
01:01:40.840 That feels a bit strange. Is it not? Or no? It's a bit prostitute-y, isn't it? 0.87
01:01:45.020 I think it's quite fabulous, but the eggs were terribly expensive, but we got a Brazilian supermodel.
01:01:50.640 Our one went to Columbia, he says. Our one. Like he's walking through the parking
01:01:56.000 lot of enterprise, looking for the Camry he just rented. He even admits that the process is a bit
01:02:01.580 prostitute-y. But he doesn't care because this is what's necessary to design a human.
01:02:07.600 They want the baby customized, like a monogrammed bathrobe. Why? For the child's own sake? Well,
01:02:13.700 no, of course not. It's for their sake, for their vanity. They've made the child into a fashion
01:02:18.540 accessory. And this is what inevitably happens when you treat a woman's womb like a long-term 0.78
01:02:24.100 Airbnb rental that you can rent for nine months. There's no better, less vain, less dehumanizing
01:02:32.240 version of commercial surrogacy. This is it. This is what it fundamentally is. And the more you listen
01:02:38.200 to any of these people talk about their experience, the more obvious that becomes. Here's another
01:02:42.340 example. My husband and I are on a surrogacy journey. We have some embryos created. They're
01:02:48.820 chilling on ice, waiting for their moment. We had to choose an egg donor out of a virtual book.
01:02:55.240 Like an album of ladies. Yeah. We got pictures. It's like Tinder, but for moms. Yes. Yes. So you
01:03:01.240 swipe right or left on the mommies. The first question on their profile is, what is your BMI?
01:03:07.580 Whoa. Whoa. Really?
01:03:09.180 Like, why does that matter? It's crazy. I met my husband on Tinder. Legit. Tinder.
01:03:14.300 I bet I know what your first message to each other was. What's your BMI?
01:03:19.000 And how big is your... Yeah.
01:03:23.480 Oh, they're going to be great dads, aren't they? So that's how they chose the surrogate.
01:03:27.540 The egg donor is selected based on her attractiveness and educational attainment,
01:03:31.560 and the surrogate is chosen like a Tinder date based on her BMI and other similar factors.
01:03:37.120 The gay men flip through the catalog and choose whichever option will best satiate their own ego. 1.00
01:03:41.740 And if this all sounds incredibly dehumanizing to both the mother and the child,
01:03:46.420 that's because it is. And if you want to know just how dehumanizing it is,
01:03:51.620 listen to this influencer on TikTok talk about her own experiences as a surrogate. And by the way,
01:03:57.760 she's like recommending it. This is what passes for a positive experience. But just listen.
01:04:04.480 I've been a surrogate three times. So here is my five things I would not do as a surrogate or trying
01:04:10.420 to become one. Number one, I would not transfer more embryos than I'm willing to carry. That means
01:04:15.180 I would not transfer two or three embryos if I only wanted to carry one baby and not have twins or
01:04:20.080 triplets. Number two, I would not bend on inner requirements. In the beginning, if you use an agency
01:04:26.140 or whatever, you match with people of like mind. So you can say, I don't want to work with these type of
01:04:31.860 people or I do want to work with these type of people. And here are my requirements. So if you
01:04:36.860 are not 100% comfortable, 100% comfortable aborting or terminating a pregnancy because the child might
01:04:44.440 have Down syndrome or something of that nature, don't think that, oh, it's a slim chance that this
01:04:50.620 will happen because it can and will happen. So you don't want to put yourself into a position that
01:04:56.360 you're in breach of a contract. Number three, I've learned from my mistakes. I did this 10 years
01:05:02.420 ago for my first time and I overshared unknowingly. I was oversharing. That could be anywhere from due
01:05:08.740 date to if it's a boy or girl, literally anything and everything that the parents are not 100% on board
01:05:15.840 with everyone knowing. Don't ever show for share. Number four, I would not go into becoming a surrogate
01:05:22.280 if I wasn't 100% done growing my family because it can and sometimes has happened that the surrogate
01:05:28.920 has to have a hysterectomy and they're put into a position like, crap, I wanted more kids, but now
01:05:33.240 I can't. So I'm forced and this just leaves a sour taste in their mouth from surrogacy and you just
01:05:36.940 don't want that. And number five, so you get a monthly allowance and just for like little things
01:05:43.480 here and there. And this was 10 years ago. I highly doubt anyone does this anymore, but I agreed to
01:05:51.060 sending receipts in for everything that I purchased with that monthly allowance. It was a pain. It was,
01:05:59.100 I felt like it was judged and I just didn't like it. So I would definitely say no to itemized receipts.
01:06:07.220 Okay. So that's a review. A surrogate contractually signs her uterus over to a third party. That third 0.99
01:06:11.880 party can contractually require her to kill the child in her womb. The third party controls what she says
01:06:17.260 about her pregnancy. They control what she buys with the allowance that she's given. And then when 1.00
01:06:23.440 the nine months are up, she delivers the child and hands them over to the third party never to see him
01:06:28.080 again. The contract has been fulfilled. Now, if you hear all of that, how human bodies are rented for
01:06:34.140 money, babies are exchanged as part of contractual agreements. And you think to yourself, wow, that sounds
01:06:40.080 an awful lot like human trafficking. Well, that just means you're more perceptive than the average
01:06:45.300 moderate conservative who is always on hand to wish a hearty congratulations to gay couples who
01:06:49.960 engage in this trafficking. Because it is indeed human trafficking by definition. The end result is
01:06:57.140 that a child is immediately torn away from the woman who birthed him and raised intentionally motherless 0.87
01:07:02.860 or fatherless as the case may be. The child will be deprived of what he needs, which is both a mother
01:07:09.300 and a father so that the gay couple can get what they want. This is the essence of the whole practice, 0.94
01:07:13.960 exchanging the needs of the child for the wants of grown adults. Now, if you are not the perceptive
01:07:21.740 sort, you might listen to all this and say, well, this is unfair to gay couples. What if they want
01:07:25.900 to have children? What are they supposed to do? Don't we need to have some kind of system in place to 1.00
01:07:31.560 help them achieve their parenthood dreams? The answer to that question is no, we don't.
01:07:37.820 Homosexual unions are sterile by their nature. It's not an exception to the rule when they are. 1.00
01:07:43.360 It's not the result of sickness or genetic defect when a homosexual couple is unable to have
01:07:49.180 children. None of them are able or have ever been able or ever will be able. That is a sign from
01:07:55.480 nature, about as glaring and obvious as signs as you can ever see, that gay couples are not meant to 1.00
01:08:01.680 have kids. They're not meant to have kids because they cannot ever have kids because kids are meant
01:08:07.080 to have both a mom and a dad. Now, it's true that plenty of kids end up with just one of those or
01:08:12.580 sometimes none, but this just means that something went wrong. In that case, you do the best you can
01:08:18.100 to compensate. But with surrogacy, we are designing children from the outset to be motherless or 0.50
01:08:25.200 fatherless. We are intentionally depriving them of what they are supposed to have.
01:08:33.720 It's true that some children grow up with one arm or no arms, but that obviously doesn't make it any
01:08:40.320 more horrific or any less horrific or barbaric to intentionally chop a child's arm off.
01:08:46.160 You know, the fact that some children end up that way, yes, but a child is supposed to have two arms
01:08:53.320 at birth. And to intentionally design a child to only have one, we would all agree it's like mad
01:09:00.940 scientist horror. But this is essentially what we're doing with commercial surrogacy.
01:09:09.580 Only it's worse because it's far better for a child to be raised lacking one of his arms than to be
01:09:14.940 raised lacking one of his parents. And that's why I will never applaud and cheer when we get these
01:09:21.700 birth announcements from gay couples, because I'm more concerned about what the child needs 1.00
01:09:26.440 than what those men want. Which is why, once again, commercial surrogacy is today canceled.
01:09:36.920 That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.
01:09:39.360 Have a great day. Talk to you tomorrow. Godspeed.
01:09:44.940 Godspeed.
01:09:49.360 Godspeed.
01:09:50.000 Godspeed.
01:09:50.700 Godspeed.
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01:09:52.440 Godspeed.
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