The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1284 - Another Cowardly Republican Gov ernor Caves To The Trans Agenda

00:00:00.060 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the cowardly Republican governor of Ohio vetoed a bill that would have banned child mutilation in the state.

00:00:06.200 There couldn't be any good reason to make that decision, but his reasons are even worse than you expect.

00:00:10.200 Also, a list of Epstein Associates is supposed to be released any day now.

00:00:14.300 What can we expect from that release?

00:00:16.400 Should we expect anything at all?

00:00:17.940 And gay activists in Seattle are protesting a playground.

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00:02:52.280 You know, it used to be a long time ago that senior officers in the U.S. military made a point of staying out of politics.

00:02:59.620 At least in public, they focused their attention solely on foreign enemies that could threaten the United States.

00:03:05.380 George Marshall, the Army officer who became Secretary of Defense under Truman, famously refused to vote in any election for any candidate.

00:03:13.120 And that kind of thinking was the norm, and you could see why.

00:03:16.060 Once the military starts trying to pick fights with domestic enemies, things can get very third world very quickly.

00:03:24.220 In just about a half century, though, we've come a long way from George Marshall.

00:03:27.860 Leaders like that are now very hard to find in the Pentagon.

00:03:30.540 In their place, we have men with names like Brie Fram.

00:03:34.840 Now, Brie Fram is a colonel in the Space Force, which is part of the Air Force.

00:03:39.620 And based on his public appearances, Fram's main credential seems to be that he likes to dress up as a woman.

00:03:45.500 That's his whole thing.

00:03:46.580 And he devotes the vast majority of his time to political campaigning on behalf of trans activists.

00:03:51.820 A couple weeks ago, for example, Fram headlined a forum sponsored by Fortune magazine.

00:03:56.500 This is an event that was entitled Fortune's Most Powerful Women of 2023.

00:04:01.620 And naturally, Fram, as a middle-aged adult man, took the stage.

00:04:05.560 And he insisted that the military and major corporations have no choice but to hire more cross-dressers.

00:04:11.580 Indeed, our national security, he says, depends on hiring more cross-dressers into the military.

00:04:18.080 Watch.

00:04:19.760 Inclusion is a national security imperative.

00:04:24.680 We fight today and we are going to fight in the future using brainpower.

00:04:29.640 And if that brain, who's going to revolutionize the way we fight in space, we fight in cyber, just happens to be in a trans body, you should want them all serving alongside me.

00:04:41.880 And for your organizations, it's the same way.

00:04:45.720 Those perspectives that we get from a diverse set of individuals, it's been talked about on stage a lot regarding the science behind high-performing teams.

00:04:53.400 We need those perspectives, but it's inclusion that actually drives that because you can bring people in.

00:05:00.440 And if they don't feel safe to speak up, if they don't feel safe to bring their full selves to work, you're not going to get the value of the diversity.

00:05:10.220 Yes, we we fight using brainpower, which is why, says Brie, it's important that we get more brains that are mentally ill involved in the military.

00:05:19.760 You know, it's funny that he's like he's highlighting the one thing that's the biggest problem.

00:05:24.580 He says, well, you can hire trans people because it's about it's what matters is the brain.

00:05:30.420 Well, yeah, your brain is the problem, though.

00:05:32.860 Like, that's the issue here.

00:05:35.140 But he says this will make us safer.

00:05:36.640 It'll make the country stronger.

00:05:38.300 Why is that the case?

00:05:39.620 How can it be the case?

00:05:40.880 Well, he never explains that and he can't explain it because it's nonsense.

00:05:44.380 But be that as it may, if you go on Brie Fram's social media, you'll find that he was just promoted by the Pentagon precisely for relentlessly pushing this kind of propaganda.

00:05:55.300 So this is what the Defense Department wants him to be doing, even though nothing he says makes any sense whatsoever.

00:06:01.400 And by the way, the people who don't feel safe to speak up, to use Brie Fram's language, are not the transact of this.

00:06:09.500 It's the people who recognize that putting a wig on a guy or cutting off his penis doesn't magically transform him into a woman.

00:06:16.540 Those are the people who are afraid to speak up because then they'll be fired for it.

00:06:20.720 And that's true in every major corporation in this country.

00:06:22.640 It's also true in the military.

00:06:24.840 Nobody wants to tell the truth or else they'll be destroyed.

00:06:27.160 Unlike what Brie Fram is complaining about, this self-censorship, this denial of reality is definitely a national security threat.

00:06:37.380 And it's easy to see why.

00:06:38.880 I mean, as a general rule, you cannot defend yourself or your nation in reality unless you are living in reality yourself.

00:06:49.080 I mean, America exists in reality in the real physical world.

00:06:52.820 And so it makes sense that we want everyone who is defending the country to also be inhabiting that world and acknowledging that world and be able to see that world for what it is.

00:07:05.160 Trans-identified people have trouble living in, accepting, or understanding reality.

00:07:09.840 And that's why they identify as trans.

00:07:12.000 They are a demographic that suffers from serious mental illness at a rate dramatically higher than the general population.

00:07:18.360 They're a much greater risk to the military for that reason alone.

00:07:22.220 Not to mention the fact that most of these activists hate this country and want to destroy everything it stands for.

00:07:27.720 And yet we're being instructed by trans activists like Brie Fram that we shouldn't be allowed to say anything like this out loud.

00:07:34.440 And if we do, we're told that we're supposedly the ones who are endangering national security somehow.

00:07:39.220 And that's just scratching the surface of what Brie Fram has been saying.

00:07:42.160 He's also openly criticized state legislatures that have passed bills that trans activists don't like.

00:07:48.140 In March of last year, for example, Fram tweeted a meme of a Star Trek actress mouthing the words,

00:07:53.720 Are you effing kidding me?

00:07:54.820 In response to what Fram called, quote,

00:07:56.900 All the anti-trans legislation being introduced and passed in so many states.

00:08:01.720 So here we have a colonel working for the U.S. Armed Forces,

00:08:06.220 publicly condemning legislation that was passed by conservative voters by overwhelming majorities in several states.

00:08:12.160 And there are many more posts like this on Fram's social media feeds.

00:08:17.180 And this isn't just like inappropriate.

00:08:19.580 Coming from the military, it's threatening and completely intolerable.

00:08:25.200 These are people with the most advanced military equipment on the planet.

00:08:29.500 They have the power to kill anybody they don't like.

00:08:33.420 And therefore, we decided a long time ago that, you know, they answer to civilian leaders.

00:08:38.140 They don't get to push their politics on us.

00:08:40.900 It's not their job.

00:08:42.820 And if they start doing it, they should be fired immediately.

00:08:45.340 That's the actual national security threat here.

00:08:48.940 But as far as I can tell, outside of social media accounts like Libs of TikTok,

00:08:52.420 Republicans haven't reacted much to this at all.

00:08:54.700 They don't seem to care that a senior military officer is a cross-dressing political activist.

00:09:00.580 And he's not the only one.

00:09:02.280 They haven't called on Brie Fram to resign or be fired or anything like that.

00:09:05.840 In fact, the opposite is happening.

00:09:09.100 Republicans are actually taking Brie Fram's advice and taking his side.

00:09:13.620 And that brings us to what happened on Friday in the waning moments of 2023.

00:09:17.760 On that day, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine took a break from celebrating the made-up fake holiday of Kwanzaa to veto House Bill 68.

00:09:27.920 Now, this bill would have prohibited doctors in the state from prescribing cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers to children.

00:09:35.580 The bill also would have prohibited boys from playing in girls' sports.

00:09:38.380 Now, it passed overwhelmingly in the Ohio House by a vote of 62 to 27, and in the Ohio Senate by a vote of 24 to 8.

00:09:47.420 And these are margins that are so large that they'd allow the legislature to override DeWine's veto.

00:09:52.300 But he went ahead and vetoed it anyway.

00:09:55.920 In a 30-minute press conference the other day, Mike DeWine explained his reasoning, such as it is.

00:10:01.580 And I'm going to present DeWine's arguments as thoroughly as I possibly can so that you can see all of his reasons for and hear all of his reasons for vetoing this bill.

00:10:16.180 He is just parroting trans propaganda, and for the most part, without even questioning it.

00:10:22.900 And we know the only way to stop this insanity is to confront it.

00:10:25.980 And so here it is.

00:10:27.880 Here's the first key claim that Mike DeWine made during the press conference to justify his vetoing of the bill.

00:10:34.720 Listen.

00:10:36.120 Were I to sign House Bill 68, or were House Bill 68 to become law,

00:10:45.900 Ohio would be saying that the state, that the government, knows better what is medically best for a child

00:10:55.060 than the two people who love that child the most, the parents.

00:11:03.440 Now, while there are rare times in the law, in other circumstances,

00:11:08.420 where the state overrules the medical decisions made by the parents,

00:11:12.440 I can think of no example where this is done,

00:11:17.240 where it is not only against the decision of the parents,

00:11:20.920 but also against the medical judgment of the treating physician

00:11:24.700 and against the judgment of the treating team of medical experts.

00:11:31.300 What a just pathetic, gutless rat this guy is.

00:11:36.640 So DeWine begins with a variation of a common argument you hear from trans activists,

00:11:41.020 which is that parents always know what's medically best for a child.

00:11:44.840 Now, of course, trans activists don't actually believe this.

00:11:49.260 That's why they want to empower school districts to hide children's so-called gender identity from their parents.

00:11:55.320 It's also why they're allowing minors to take these sterilizing drugs without parental involvement

00:11:59.260 in states like California and Washington.

00:12:00.940 Because, by the way, if parents decided, you know,

00:12:03.840 there are plenty of parents who have a child that falls into this trap, this cult,

00:12:08.860 and the parent makes the right decision and does not take the child to be castrated.

00:12:16.220 And in those cases, the trans activists, and presumably Mike DeWine,

00:12:19.860 would say that, no, no, no, no, this is abusive.

00:12:24.220 So, no, we should trust the parent's judgment

00:12:27.640 if the parent makes a judgment that is in line with trans activists.

00:12:31.680 That is the qualifier that Mike DeWine forgot to mention there.

00:12:35.620 But even if Mike DeWine and trans activists actually did believe what they're saying,

00:12:41.520 which they don't,

00:12:43.320 they don't care about parental rights at all,

00:12:45.600 the argument still fails.

00:12:47.260 And that's because common sense and our basic human moral intuition

00:12:51.240 tell us that chopping off a healthy girl's breasts

00:12:53.220 or castrating and sterilizing a boy for life

00:12:55.800 is not only wrong, but a moral atrocity

00:12:58.700 that cries to the heavens for vengeance.

00:13:01.980 Yes, parents have a right to raise their children.

00:13:03.960 They don't have a right to abuse their children.

00:13:07.060 We all understand that.

00:13:08.020 They don't have a right to mutilate them,

00:13:09.280 which is abuse, obviously.

00:13:11.280 It doesn't matter what the parents say or what the doctors say.

00:13:14.740 Some things are wrong because they're just wrong,

00:13:17.380 regardless of your title or position

00:13:19.580 or your relationship with the child.

00:13:23.760 Now, this is an obvious point,

00:13:25.260 which is why Mike DeWine tries to head off the argument

00:13:27.460 by saying that, in this case,

00:13:30.400 parents and experts agree that these procedures

00:13:32.640 are medically necessary.

00:13:34.500 And he says he can think of no other example

00:13:36.460 where the state has banned procedures on children

00:13:38.720 where both parents and medical experts agree

00:13:41.220 that they're necessary.

00:13:43.100 Now, this is a remarkable statement from the governor,

00:13:45.180 given that it was less than a century ago

00:13:47.200 that children were getting lobotomized in this country.

00:13:50.460 Parents and medical experts thought that lobotomies

00:13:53.000 were a great idea, so they happened at scale.

00:13:56.400 Walter Freeman traveled around psychiatric hospitals

00:13:58.540 in the U.S. in the 1950s, sticking spatulas in people's brains.

00:14:02.980 It's like, it wasn't all that long ago.

00:14:04.840 The medical experts all agreed that this was the best way

00:14:07.260 to treat any number of ailments.

00:14:10.580 One of his patients was a 12-year-old named Howard Dully,

00:14:13.780 who was lobotomized because his mother demanded it.

00:14:17.760 Medical expert, parent, both agreed.

00:14:20.880 Several decades later, Dully told NPR, quote,

00:14:23.280 I'll never know what I lost in those 10 minutes

00:14:25.640 with Dr. Freeman and his ice pick.

00:14:28.980 Now, lobotomies aren't performed in this country anymore.

00:14:31.560 Many states have imposed restrictions

00:14:32.860 on all forms of, quote, unquote, psychosurgery.

00:14:36.340 And any doctor who performs a lobotomy

00:14:37.820 would probably be bankrupted in a malpractice lawsuit

00:14:39.940 if not sent to jail.

00:14:42.580 But DeWine has apparently forgotten about all of that,

00:14:45.180 and he has absolute trust in parents and doctors.

00:14:48.700 I mean, they could never be wrong.

00:14:49.520 If they agree, they can't possibly be wrong.

00:14:52.460 Anything they agree on must automatically be legal

00:14:55.160 in the state of Ohio, is what he's saying.

00:14:58.640 Now, what's interesting about this argument

00:15:00.140 is that, as DeWine himself points out,

00:15:02.580 these parents have given their reason

00:15:04.980 for opposing the bill,

00:15:06.720 and their reasons have nothing whatsoever

00:15:10.340 to do with medicine or science.

00:15:13.660 Watch.

00:15:15.320 Ultimately, I believe this is about protecting human life.

00:15:20.900 Many parents have told me that their child

00:15:25.360 would not have survived, would be dead today

00:15:29.160 if they had not received the treatment they received

00:15:32.080 from one of Ohio's children's hospitals.

00:15:36.960 I've also been told by those who are now grown adults

00:15:40.560 that but for this care,

00:15:43.720 they would have taken their life

00:15:45.800 when they were teenagers.

00:15:49.780 So DeWine begins by saying that parents have told him

00:15:52.260 that they had to transition their children

00:15:54.060 or else their children would have committed suicide,

00:15:56.680 which is not a medical judgment.

00:15:58.780 That is, at best, a parent acting out of pure desperation

00:16:01.800 and caving to the worst form

00:16:04.180 of emotional blackmail imaginable.

00:16:06.120 And like most judgments made out of desperation,

00:16:08.660 it's a very bad one.

00:16:11.220 Now, for one thing, as I've pointed out a thousand times,

00:16:13.500 the claim that children need to be transitioned

00:16:15.480 in order to stop them from killing themselves

00:16:17.700 is belied by the fact that for most of human history,

00:16:20.580 no children were transitioned

00:16:21.880 and also no children were killing themselves because of it.

00:16:25.380 It is only in the last few years

00:16:26.780 that this need has arisen,

00:16:29.460 which means that the need is an illusion.

00:16:33.200 We have to destroy the illusion, not give in to it.

00:16:37.100 But Mike DeWine has no problem with this.

00:16:38.960 He says that because he met with a handful of parents

00:16:42.300 who tell him that sterilizing hormones

00:16:44.460 saved their kid's life,

00:16:46.220 that he's convinced they must be right.

00:16:48.860 And what's extraordinary about this

00:16:50.080 is that at the beginning of his press conference,

00:16:52.640 DeWine claims that he talked to detransitioners also

00:16:55.140 and people who regret getting these hormones at a young age.

00:16:58.060 He never explains why he disregarded their concerns

00:17:00.560 and sided with the handful of parents that he spoke to.

00:17:05.180 In Ohio, they're legalizing,

00:17:07.540 or he wants to legalize the sterilization of children

00:17:11.200 based on a handful of selective anecdotes.

00:17:15.140 That's where we are.

00:17:17.080 This gets even weirder when you listen to the rest

00:17:18.980 of DeWine's press conference where he explains

00:17:20.680 that he has no data at all

00:17:24.180 to suggest that sterilizing children

00:17:25.800 actually improves their well-being.

00:17:28.060 Watch.

00:17:28.320 Number one,

00:17:30.500 I adamantly agree with the General Assembly

00:17:32.400 that no surgery of this kind

00:17:34.000 should ever be performed

00:17:35.080 on those under the age of 18.

00:17:38.080 I am therefore directing our agencies

00:17:40.000 to draft rules to ban this practice

00:17:42.020 in the state of Ohio.

00:17:43.880 Number two,

00:17:45.000 I share with the legislature

00:17:46.420 their concern that there's no comprehensive data today

00:17:50.200 regarding persons who receive this care,

00:17:53.100 nor independent analysis of any such data.

00:17:56.580 Therefore,

00:17:58.300 I am today directing our agencies

00:17:59.940 to immediately draft rules

00:18:01.440 to require reporting

00:18:02.660 to the relevant agencies

00:18:04.180 and to report this data

00:18:06.280 to the General Assembly

00:18:07.140 and the public every six months.

00:18:09.660 We will do this,

00:18:11.160 we will do this not only

00:18:12.600 when the patients are minors,

00:18:14.140 but also when the patients are adults.

00:18:18.000 Number three,

00:18:19.480 I also share the legislature's concerns

00:18:21.660 about clinics that may pop up

00:18:23.700 and try to sell patients inadequate

00:18:25.860 or even ideological treatments.

00:18:28.860 This is a concern shared by people

00:18:31.280 I spoke with

00:18:32.100 who have had both positive experiences

00:18:34.640 and those who have had negative experiences

00:18:37.420 with their own treatments.

00:18:39.340 You know,

00:18:39.980 when you look at this field,

00:18:42.560 the first thing that you figure out

00:18:45.300 when you kind of dig into it

00:18:47.360 is there isn't a whole lot of data

00:18:49.080 of what's going on specifically in Ohio.

00:18:52.220 We need to know that.

00:18:54.100 And frankly,

00:18:55.320 you know,

00:18:55.600 over time,

00:18:56.040 we need to have longitudinal studies as well.

00:18:59.280 So we have,

00:19:00.360 you know,

00:19:00.720 but there's some information

00:19:02.100 that we can get immediately.

00:19:04.160 And, you know,

00:19:05.580 that's what we need to do.

00:19:06.600 We need to start getting,

00:19:07.720 you know,

00:19:08.140 who's getting this care?

00:19:10.480 How many come in?

00:19:11.260 How many start the process?

00:19:12.940 How many finish?

00:19:13.940 How many go to this?

00:19:14.800 How many go to that?

00:19:15.960 Just data.

00:19:17.160 So we have no evidence to suggest

00:19:20.340 that any of these treatments

00:19:21.600 are helping kids.

00:19:22.700 The governor admits that.

00:19:23.600 In fact,

00:19:24.200 we have a lot of evidence

00:19:24.820 that it's hurting them,

00:19:25.640 as he says.

00:19:26.620 And that's why DeWine

00:19:27.280 doesn't want to authorize surgeries

00:19:28.640 on minors,

00:19:29.580 even though he also said before

00:19:31.480 that parents and doctors

00:19:32.660 are the ones who make decisions.

00:19:34.300 And there are doctors out there

00:19:35.660 who say that minors

00:19:36.860 should get the surgeries.

00:19:38.120 So in that case,

00:19:38.880 you are admitting

00:19:39.700 that the doctors can be wrong,

00:19:41.460 you moron.

00:19:43.200 But at the same time,

00:19:44.120 he's fine with legalizing procedures

00:19:45.960 that will sterilize children.

00:19:47.060 Against the will

00:19:47.720 of the people of his state,

00:19:48.680 even though he acknowledges

00:19:49.420 there's no science

00:19:50.660 to justify it.

00:19:51.780 He's greenlighting

00:19:52.740 child butchery

00:19:53.580 by his own admission

00:19:54.340 so he can collect more data

00:19:56.160 on how it affects children

00:19:57.560 in 20 years.

00:19:59.240 So let's just castrate

00:20:00.320 the kids now

00:20:00.920 and check in in 20 years

00:20:01.860 to see if it worked out.

00:20:03.480 That's his argument.

00:20:05.240 It's so ghoulish

00:20:06.300 and so completely illogical

00:20:07.600 that it's hard to believe

00:20:08.580 it's real,

00:20:09.000 but that's what he said.

00:20:10.620 So if you're a sane person,

00:20:12.020 you're left wondering

00:20:12.520 what could possibly explain this?

00:20:13.880 I mean,

00:20:14.060 it's always worth laying out

00:20:15.260 the case against

00:20:15.920 the medical abuse of children,

00:20:17.000 but we all know

00:20:17.780 that Mike DeWine

00:20:19.240 doesn't actually need

00:20:20.120 to be told any of this.

00:20:21.240 It's well established.

00:20:23.140 DeWine is a contemptible weakling

00:20:24.780 and a pathetic coward,

00:20:25.740 but he's not actually psychotic.

00:20:28.260 He's only pretending

00:20:29.060 to be in this case.

00:20:30.800 And the question is why?

00:20:31.680 I mean,

00:20:31.800 why is he telling legislators

00:20:32.940 to scrap this bill

00:20:34.380 following his veto

00:20:35.160 in favor of some

00:20:35.960 vague administrative regulations

00:20:37.700 that mean basically nothing?

00:20:38.840 The first answer probably

00:20:41.440 has something to do

00:20:41.940 with the campaign contributions

00:20:43.200 that Mike DeWine receives

00:20:44.140 from the very organizations

00:20:45.220 that perform this butchery.

00:20:46.300 The Daily Caller

00:20:46.900 is reporting that,

00:20:48.420 quote,

00:20:49.340 from 2018 to 2023,

00:20:50.940 the governor received

00:20:51.620 $40,000

00:20:52.700 from the Ohio

00:20:53.780 Children's Hospital Association,

00:20:55.760 Cincinnati Children's,

00:20:56.640 Nationwide Children's Hospital,

00:20:57.980 and ProMedica Children's Hospital,

00:20:59.500 all of whom support

00:21:00.280 transgender medical care.

00:21:02.160 Now,

00:21:02.340 these are the same

00:21:02.800 children's hospitals

00:21:03.380 that in his press conference,

00:21:04.480 DeWine said

00:21:04.960 he had consulted

00:21:06.060 before vetoing the bill.

00:21:07.420 So he had to consult

00:21:08.120 with his donors

00:21:08.820 before making a decision on this.

00:21:10.660 But the governor

00:21:11.000 never discloses

00:21:11.640 the donor part of it

00:21:12.940 during the press conference.

00:21:13.760 So, you know,

00:21:14.520 that's conspicuous

00:21:15.340 to say the least.

00:21:16.420 There's also the fact

00:21:17.000 that under DeWine,

00:21:17.800 Ohio has resumed

00:21:19.020 working with

00:21:19.760 Centenni Corporation,

00:21:22.280 even though they just

00:21:22.980 settled with the state

00:21:24.580 on charges

00:21:25.180 that they defrauded Medicaid.

00:21:27.000 Various local news outlets

00:21:27.980 have pointed out

00:21:28.540 that one of DeWine's

00:21:29.420 longtime friends

00:21:30.160 is a lobbyist

00:21:30.880 for this organization,

00:21:32.440 which incidentally

00:21:33.160 also claims

00:21:33.880 that gender-affirming care,

00:21:35.000 quote, unquote,

00:21:35.460 is medically necessary.

00:21:37.420 Is this corruption?

00:21:38.600 Well, undoubtedly it is.

00:21:40.360 But it's also

00:21:41.120 not a complete explanation

00:21:42.320 for what we're seeing

00:21:43.400 in Ohio.

00:21:44.040 This is, you know,

00:21:45.080 a cancer that's spread

00:21:46.140 far beyond

00:21:46.820 one governor's office.

00:21:48.760 DeWine represents

00:21:49.460 the Republican establishment.

00:21:51.080 An establishment

00:21:51.680 for the Republican establishment

00:21:53.520 will always do the bidding

00:21:54.840 of the LGBT lobby

00:21:56.200 when push comes to shove.

00:21:58.080 And we've seen that

00:21:58.820 all over the country repeatedly.

00:22:00.900 Obviously,

00:22:01.300 there was the gay marriage

00:22:02.220 debate

00:22:03.100 where the right folded

00:22:04.040 virtually overnight,

00:22:04.920 or at least the establishment

00:22:05.960 Republicans did.

00:22:07.620 There are many more

00:22:08.400 recent examples.

00:22:09.300 There's the case

00:22:09.800 of Spencer Cox,

00:22:10.920 the Republican governor

00:22:11.920 of Utah,

00:22:12.540 who recently introduced

00:22:13.240 himself to a roomful

00:22:14.180 of children

00:22:14.620 by giving his preferred

00:22:16.020 pronouns.

00:22:17.600 In 2021,

00:22:18.360 the Republican governor

00:22:19.000 of South Dakota,

00:22:19.740 Kristi Noem,

00:22:20.320 vetoed a bill

00:22:20.980 that would have banned

00:22:21.700 men from competing

00:22:22.360 in women's sports.

00:22:23.340 That same year,

00:22:24.240 the Republican governor

00:22:24.900 of Arkansas,

00:22:25.720 Asa Hutchinson,

00:22:26.880 vetoed a bill

00:22:27.520 that would have banned

00:22:28.200 so-called gender-affirming

00:22:29.340 treatments on minors.

00:22:30.900 The state legislature

00:22:31.780 later overrode that veto,

00:22:33.300 but that shouldn't have

00:22:34.820 been necessary

00:22:35.280 in the first place.

00:22:37.260 And for the sake

00:22:37.800 of thousands of children,

00:22:38.780 we need a similar veto

00:22:40.060 override in Ohio.

00:22:42.000 But that can't be

00:22:42.780 the end of it.

00:22:44.200 Because if the leaders

00:22:45.140 of the conservative

00:22:45.720 establishment want anyone

00:22:47.500 to believe that they

00:22:48.460 can conserve anything,

00:22:50.860 you know,

00:22:51.380 they should start

00:22:52.000 by explaining why

00:22:52.840 Bree Fram is allowed

00:22:53.960 to lecture us

00:22:54.720 in uniform about the

00:22:55.900 importance of hiring

00:22:56.740 mentally ill cross-dressers.

00:22:59.660 Then the Republican

00:23:00.500 Governors Association

00:23:01.280 should explain why

00:23:02.220 so many governors

00:23:03.120 are ignoring

00:23:04.020 what the vast majority

00:23:05.660 of their constituents want.

00:23:08.280 If the leaders

00:23:09.120 of the establishment right

00:23:10.560 can't do any of that,

00:23:11.880 and honestly,

00:23:12.460 they probably can't,

00:23:14.060 then they serve no purpose.

00:23:16.420 They are every bit

00:23:17.400 as spineless and pitiful

00:23:18.600 as Mike DeWine.

00:23:20.920 And if there's any resolution

00:23:22.240 worth making in 2024,

00:23:24.140 it's that we need

00:23:24.640 to be done

00:23:25.200 with these useless cowards

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00:24:32.160 We start with this

00:24:33.280 from the Daily Wire.

00:24:34.820 As scores of previously

00:24:36.100 sealed court filings

00:24:37.280 regarding sex offender

00:24:38.220 Jeffrey Epstein

00:24:38.940 are about to be made public,

00:24:40.500 a report states

00:24:41.140 that former President

00:24:41.900 Bill Clinton

00:24:42.560 is mentioned

00:24:43.140 in more than 50

00:24:44.260 of the redacted filings.

00:24:46.200 In December,

00:24:46.700 Manhattan Federal Judge

00:24:47.540 Loretta Preska

00:24:48.580 ordered the release

00:24:49.880 of sealed documents

00:24:50.920 from a defamation suit

00:24:53.060 from Virginia Giuffre.

00:24:55.460 I think that's how

00:24:56.360 you pronounce her last name

00:24:57.140 who claimed that

00:24:57.580 she was forced

00:24:58.120 to have sex

00:24:58.560 with Prince Andrew

00:24:59.140 when she was 17

00:24:59.960 at Epstein's home.

00:25:01.740 This suit was filed

00:25:02.320 in 2015

00:25:02.900 against Epstein's

00:25:03.960 Madam Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:25:07.220 Giuffre tweeted

00:25:07.880 this week saying,

00:25:09.600 finally we're hearing

00:25:10.220 members of the U.S.

00:25:11.000 government senators

00:25:11.660 about the need

00:25:12.480 for transparency

00:25:13.180 and a call to arms

00:25:14.720 for accountability.

00:25:15.520 There's going to be

00:25:15.900 a lot of nervous people

00:25:16.900 over Christmas and New Year's,

00:25:17.940 170 to be exact.

00:25:19.120 Who's on the naughty list?

00:25:20.920 This wouldn't be possible

00:25:21.680 without the Honorable Judge

00:25:22.760 Preska Merry Early Christmas.

00:25:26.120 She tweeted,

00:25:27.020 additional details

00:25:27.580 are expected

00:25:28.040 from Jane Doe 162

00:25:29.860 who testified

00:25:30.280 that she was

00:25:30.980 with Prince Andrew

00:25:32.420 Maxwell and Giuffre

00:25:33.660 at Epstein's

00:25:34.460 New York mansion

00:25:34.940 in 2001.

00:25:37.740 Giuffre has claimed

00:25:38.420 that she met Clinton

00:25:39.100 on Epstein's

00:25:39.920 private Caribbean island.

00:25:42.480 So,

00:25:43.740 they're saying

00:25:44.780 that Clinton's

00:25:45.160 going to be mentioning

00:25:45.500 these documents,

00:25:46.040 but the real,

00:25:46.760 you know,

00:25:46.920 the sort of bigger story

00:25:48.700 this is a part of

00:25:49.460 is that

00:25:50.040 all of these documents

00:25:51.620 are supposed to be released.

00:25:52.640 I think the last I saw

00:25:53.480 was supposedly on Tuesday,

00:25:56.200 which is today,

00:25:57.220 in fact.

00:25:58.180 The documents

00:25:58.880 are supposed to be released

00:25:59.560 which are going to,

00:26:00.620 you know,

00:26:01.120 implicate lots of powerful people

00:26:03.440 and we're going to finally

00:26:04.140 find out the truth

00:26:05.280 about who,

00:26:05.780 in fact,

00:26:06.100 who exactly was involved

00:26:07.360 with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:26:11.300 Now,

00:26:12.720 I hate to spoil

00:26:14.700 the party here,

00:26:15.380 but, you know,

00:26:15.800 I have to be that guy

00:26:16.560 in this case

00:26:17.100 because I'm always that guy.

00:26:18.600 And,

00:26:20.280 look,

00:26:21.660 I hope I'm wrong about this.

00:26:23.380 I really,

00:26:24.200 really hope I'm wrong.

00:26:25.560 But I would bet

00:26:26.620 a lot of money

00:26:27.440 that we will

00:26:29.280 never be given

00:26:30.360 anything close

00:26:31.580 to the full list.

00:26:33.960 My guess

00:26:34.920 is that

00:26:35.420 when these documents

00:26:36.160 are released,

00:26:37.340 it will only implicate

00:26:39.340 the people

00:26:43.040 who have already

00:26:43.460 been implicated,

00:26:44.500 right?

00:26:44.740 And even for them,

00:26:45.740 they're not going to release

00:26:46.540 anything that definitively

00:26:48.080 proves that these people

00:26:49.240 who are definitely guilty

00:26:50.500 are guilty.

00:26:52.080 So,

00:26:52.580 we'll get vague references

00:26:53.500 to people like Bill Clinton

00:26:54.560 and Prince Andrew,

00:26:55.200 which we already have.

00:26:56.160 We already knew about that.

00:26:57.720 People who have been

00:26:58.520 long since tied

00:26:59.660 to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:27:01.300 People who we already know

00:27:03.100 are degenerate creeps.

00:27:05.360 And maybe we'll throw in

00:27:06.140 a few more names

00:27:06.740 of people that

00:27:07.380 the powers that be

00:27:09.120 don't mind implicating.

00:27:10.280 But the full list,

00:27:11.200 I mean,

00:27:11.380 the real truth

00:27:12.060 of everything that happened

00:27:12.920 is probably lost forever

00:27:15.360 at this point.

00:27:16.680 I mean,

00:27:16.800 it's been,

00:27:17.440 what,

00:27:19.140 well,

00:27:20.640 it's been five years

00:27:21.580 since Jeffrey Epstein

00:27:22.940 quote-unquote

00:27:23.420 killed himself.

00:27:24.760 And,

00:27:25.280 like,

00:27:25.660 what do you think

00:27:26.140 they've been doing

00:27:26.640 during that time?

00:27:27.980 Do you think documents

00:27:28.860 that establish the guilt

00:27:30.000 of the most powerful people

00:27:31.300 in the world

00:27:32.000 are just,

00:27:32.440 like,

00:27:32.540 sitting in a vault

00:27:33.300 somewhere

00:27:33.720 waiting to be released?

00:27:37.900 I hope,

00:27:39.100 but it doesn't generally

00:27:40.200 work that way.

00:27:41.620 And I'm not saying

00:27:42.420 those documents

00:27:43.040 never existed.

00:27:43.860 I'm saying

00:27:44.360 I doubt they exist

00:27:45.640 now.

00:27:47.520 All that evidence

00:27:48.380 is probably destroyed.

00:27:49.240 I mean,

00:27:49.340 what do you think

00:27:49.640 the FBI did

00:27:50.320 when they raided

00:27:50.860 Epstein's properties?

00:27:53.620 Again,

00:27:54.100 what do you think

00:27:54.400 happened after Epstein

00:27:55.240 mysteriously,

00:27:56.100 quote-unquote,

00:27:56.680 killed himself in prison?

00:27:59.540 Does the evidence

00:28:00.260 still exist?

00:28:00.920 Probably not.

00:28:03.640 I mean,

00:28:03.900 what do we think

00:28:04.420 that the most powerful

00:28:05.100 people in the world

00:28:05.860 who,

00:28:06.260 you know,

00:28:07.080 definitely were

00:28:07.700 all connected to Epstein,

00:28:09.820 that they're going to,

00:28:10.500 like,

00:28:10.720 play fair here

00:28:11.660 and keep the evidence

00:28:13.020 intact in the interest

00:28:14.360 of justice or whatever?

00:28:17.680 Probably not.

00:28:18.540 I mean,

00:28:18.700 it's probably all gone.

00:28:20.460 And so,

00:28:21.080 whatever is released

00:28:22.020 will not live up

00:28:23.360 to your expectations

00:28:25.120 if you have any

00:28:26.200 expectations.

00:28:27.380 And it seems to me,

00:28:28.240 at least based on the

00:28:29.000 chat or on social media,

00:28:29.860 a lot of people

00:28:30.360 are expecting,

00:28:30.900 like,

00:28:31.400 a,

00:28:31.440 you know,

00:28:32.520 a real

00:28:32.980 moment of

00:28:36.120 truth and transparency

00:28:38.220 and,

00:28:38.720 you know,

00:28:38.920 hope I'm wrong.

00:28:41.340 I really do.

00:28:43.020 I mean,

00:28:43.340 like you,

00:28:43.740 I would love nothing more

00:28:45.020 than for the most powerful

00:28:46.100 and,

00:28:46.560 you know,

00:28:47.400 corrupt people in the world,

00:28:48.580 politicians and judges

00:28:49.600 and,

00:28:50.060 you know,

00:28:50.220 these corporate CEOs

00:28:51.160 who are all tied to Epstein.

00:28:52.700 I'd love to see them all

00:28:53.600 frog-marched into jail,

00:28:55.580 held accountable

00:28:56.100 for their crimes.

00:28:58.520 I mean,

00:28:59.040 all of Epstein's clients

00:28:59.880 should be executed.

00:29:00.660 That's what I would like to see.

00:29:01.480 Maybe brought up in the sky

00:29:02.600 on a jet

00:29:03.180 and tossed off

00:29:05.440 at cruising altitude.

00:29:07.460 Legally,

00:29:07.880 I mean,

00:29:08.100 as a legal punishment.

00:29:09.460 I'd like to see that sentence

00:29:10.300 passed down

00:29:10.900 in a court of law

00:29:11.820 and then legally enacted.

00:29:14.600 But,

00:29:15.020 that's not going to happen.

00:29:17.400 That's not how the world works.

00:29:19.460 And,

00:29:19.860 in this world,

00:29:20.780 everybody involved with Epstein,

00:29:22.280 or most of them,

00:29:23.080 probably get away with it.

00:29:25.680 And,

00:29:26.140 I say that

00:29:26.700 based on the fact that

00:29:28.880 I've seen how the world works

00:29:31.080 in my 37 years of existence,

00:29:33.040 but also based on the fact

00:29:34.500 that it's been this long.

00:29:35.480 You know,

00:29:37.580 it's been this long.

00:29:39.080 There's no reason

00:29:39.660 why it should have

00:29:40.180 taken this long

00:29:41.240 for any of these documents

00:29:42.140 to be released.

00:29:43.940 And so,

00:29:44.420 you just have to ask yourself,

00:29:45.380 what have they been doing

00:29:46.300 in the meantime?

00:29:47.340 So,

00:29:47.680 we'll see.

00:29:48.380 I mean,

00:29:49.120 it's supposed to be today

00:29:50.160 or tomorrow

00:29:50.620 or this week

00:29:51.200 that these documents

00:29:52.640 will be released.

00:29:53.520 And maybe it'll,

00:29:54.620 you know,

00:29:54.900 maybe we'll

00:29:55.520 all go on Twitter

00:29:57.120 and we'll find

00:29:57.860 the trending names

00:29:58.980 of a lot of

00:29:59.720 very famous,

00:30:00.340 powerful people

00:30:00.880 who have been,

00:30:01.480 you know,

00:30:02.460 implicated in the

00:30:03.540 Jeffrey Epstein scandal

00:30:04.500 and it really will be

00:30:06.520 that moment

00:30:07.380 of,

00:30:07.780 you know,

00:30:10.120 justice and truth

00:30:10.900 that we're all hoping for,

00:30:11.840 but I don't have

00:30:13.980 a lot of hope in that.

00:30:15.840 So,

00:30:16.300 here's a controversy

00:30:16.940 I missed over the break.

00:30:18.220 This is from last week

00:30:20.000 and maybe you heard about it

00:30:22.300 or maybe you value

00:30:23.700 your own sanity

00:30:24.440 so you instead

00:30:25.320 took a break

00:30:25.940 from news and social media

00:30:26.940 over Christmas

00:30:28.440 and didn't hear about it.

00:30:30.120 Whichever the case,

00:30:31.500 Nikki Haley

00:30:32.120 got herself

00:30:32.800 into trouble

00:30:33.800 because of an answer

00:30:34.940 that she gave

00:30:35.780 at a town hall

00:30:36.860 about the Civil War.

00:30:39.760 Well,

00:30:39.880 the town hall

00:30:40.260 was not about the Civil War

00:30:41.200 but there was a question

00:30:42.020 about the Civil War.

00:30:43.020 I don't know why

00:30:43.580 this question was asked.

00:30:44.480 I mean,

00:30:44.620 I don't know why,

00:30:46.200 you know,

00:30:47.000 you have a chance

00:30:47.580 to ask a question

00:30:48.260 to a presidential candidate

00:30:49.900 and you're asking them

00:30:51.600 about a historical event

00:30:52.740 from 150 years ago.

00:30:54.020 I'm not sure why

00:30:54.520 that would be your question

00:30:55.360 but it was

00:30:56.560 and

00:30:57.740 and

00:30:59.740 the question was

00:31:00.640 specifically

00:31:01.600 what was the cause

00:31:02.960 of the Civil War?

00:31:05.100 And here is what

00:31:06.180 Nikki Haley came up with

00:31:07.560 on her first try

00:31:09.580 and there were many more

00:31:10.420 tries after this

00:31:11.140 but here was her first try.

00:31:12.500 Let's watch.

00:31:14.200 What was the cause

00:31:15.520 of the United States

00:31:16.680 Civil War?

00:31:17.480 Well,

00:31:23.380 don't come with

00:31:23.980 an easy question

00:31:24.800 or anything.

00:31:25.160 I mean,

00:31:25.340 I think the cause

00:31:26.080 of the Civil War

00:31:26.900 was basically

00:31:27.600 how government

00:31:28.280 was going to run.

00:31:29.260 The freedoms

00:31:29.980 and what people

00:31:30.820 could and couldn't do.

00:31:32.780 What do you think

00:31:33.720 the cause

00:31:34.100 of the Civil War was?

00:31:39.600 I'm sorry?

00:31:40.200 I mean,

00:31:48.020 I think it always

00:31:48.660 comes down

00:31:49.160 to the role

00:31:49.600 of government.

00:31:50.340 We need to have

00:31:50.960 capitalism.

00:31:51.800 We need to have

00:31:52.340 economic freedom.

00:31:53.340 We need to make sure

00:31:54.020 that we do all things

00:31:54.980 so that individuals

00:31:56.180 have the liberties

00:31:57.020 so that they can have

00:31:58.200 freedom of speech,

00:31:59.120 freedom of religion,

00:32:00.000 freedom to do

00:32:00.720 or be anything

00:32:01.720 they want to be

00:32:02.360 without government

00:32:03.060 getting in the way.

00:32:03.760 Thank you.

00:32:04.640 And in the year 2023,

00:32:06.640 it's astonishing to me

00:32:07.900 and you can answer

00:32:08.720 that question

00:32:09.320 without mentioning

00:32:09.980 the word slavery.

00:32:12.940 What do you want me

00:32:13.880 to say about slavery?

00:32:15.200 No problem.

00:32:16.160 You can answer

00:32:16.760 my question.

00:32:19.520 Next question.

00:32:22.400 Okay.

00:32:23.700 So,

00:32:24.300 she did not say

00:32:25.320 that the Civil War

00:32:26.040 was caused by slavery

00:32:27.100 and then she was asked

00:32:29.000 about,

00:32:29.280 it's kind of hard

00:32:29.700 to hear what the guy

00:32:30.300 is saying exactly

00:32:31.180 but you can take

00:32:31.940 context clues.

00:32:34.360 She was asked again

00:32:35.260 about slavery

00:32:35.800 and then she says

00:32:37.060 next question.

00:32:38.180 Like,

00:32:38.340 she's trying to dodge it.

00:32:39.520 Like,

00:32:39.960 she's afraid

00:32:41.500 to just say

00:32:42.180 slavery is a terrible thing.

00:32:44.280 It's awful.

00:32:45.780 I'm opposed to slavery.

00:32:46.940 I don't like,

00:32:47.580 put me in the anti-camp

00:32:48.880 when it comes to slavery.

00:32:50.260 She didn't want to say that

00:32:50.980 so instead she said

00:32:51.920 next question.

00:32:54.800 And this set off

00:32:55.840 several days

00:32:56.620 of controversy

00:32:57.360 and outrage

00:32:57.980 the corporate media

00:32:58.720 and also the establishment

00:33:00.240 right

00:33:00.700 usually defend

00:33:03.040 Nikki Haley.

00:33:03.720 You know,

00:33:03.840 usually they're big

00:33:04.380 Nikki Haley fans

00:33:05.100 but on this one

00:33:05.880 they turned on her

00:33:07.660 and they went after her

00:33:08.620 and so over the next few days

00:33:10.740 she made multiple attempts

00:33:12.160 to kind of clean up the mess

00:33:14.260 but she really didn't make things

00:33:16.380 much better for herself

00:33:17.280 so here she was,

00:33:18.560 I think this was a day later

00:33:19.680 and here she is

00:33:21.480 addressing the controversy

00:33:22.620 and sort of trying again

00:33:23.960 with an answer.

00:33:25.160 Let's watch that.

00:33:25.740 I guess if you grow up

00:33:28.100 in the South

00:33:28.600 it's a given

00:33:29.240 that it's about slavery.

00:33:30.700 To me it was about

00:33:31.460 but freedom.

00:33:32.600 What do you do?

00:33:33.260 It's bigger than slavery.

00:33:34.880 That was such a stain

00:33:35.940 on our history.

00:33:37.840 But what do you take

00:33:39.020 from it going forward?

00:33:40.420 Yes, of course

00:33:41.120 slavery is never

00:33:42.320 can never happen again.

00:33:44.120 But going forward

00:33:45.000 doesn't that mean

00:33:45.900 we should focus

00:33:46.980 on the freedoms of people

00:33:48.300 to live their life

00:33:49.640 not to have government

00:33:50.860 not to have any other person

00:33:52.080 tell them what they can

00:33:53.040 and can't do?

00:33:53.880 That's been trampled

00:33:54.880 on the past few years.

00:33:56.360 That's the part

00:33:56.940 we've got to make sure

00:33:57.580 we never take anything

00:33:58.760 away from.

00:33:59.800 So look,

00:34:00.380 I mean you guys can make it

00:34:01.240 about something else

00:34:02.040 but if you look at my

00:34:03.200 record in South Carolina

00:34:05.120 we dealt with

00:34:06.020 there's a whole lot more

00:34:07.180 and what I'll tell you is

00:34:09.260 yes, you can acknowledge

00:34:10.620 a point in history

00:34:11.580 but what do you do

00:34:12.620 with that point in history?

00:34:13.740 You've got to make sure

00:34:14.500 the lessons constantly

00:34:15.660 go forward

00:34:16.240 so that we never

00:34:16.840 see it again.

00:34:18.700 I mean that's mostly

00:34:20.100 word salad.

00:34:21.060 Like if you were to look

00:34:22.240 at a transcript

00:34:22.800 of what she just said

00:34:23.740 you wouldn't even know

00:34:25.360 where to place punctuation

00:34:26.640 because it's so rambling

00:34:28.380 and nonsensical

00:34:29.300 but she does at least say

00:34:31.420 that slavery shouldn't

00:34:32.360 happen again

00:34:32.860 so we have her

00:34:33.600 Nikki Haley breaks her

00:34:35.200 silence about slavery

00:34:36.320 and she is

00:34:37.960 so now we know

00:34:38.980 that she is in the

00:34:39.760 she does it

00:34:40.800 she does oppose slavery

00:34:41.960 she doesn't want to

00:34:42.600 reinstate slavery

00:34:43.220 so that's good

00:34:43.720 because we weren't sure

00:34:44.940 we definitely weren't sure

00:34:45.840 and you know

00:34:48.620 it's all kind of funny

00:34:49.780 because her answers

00:34:51.180 are so incredibly stupid

00:34:52.280 and she kind of reminds me

00:34:54.560 of that clip

00:34:55.340 of what was it

00:34:55.920 Miss America contestant

00:34:57.040 from like 15 years ago

00:34:58.100 or whatever pageant it was

00:35:00.220 trying to talk about geography

00:35:01.840 you know

00:35:02.700 that infamous clip

00:35:03.380 so she reminds me of that

00:35:04.260 a little bit

00:35:04.680 just totally clueless

00:35:05.580 and that's what you're seeing

00:35:07.520 with Nikki Haley

00:35:08.020 everyone is accusing her

00:35:09.960 of refusing to mention slavery

00:35:13.000 because she's some kind

00:35:13.980 of confederate sympathizer

00:35:15.320 and that is obviously

00:35:17.600 not the case

00:35:18.620 okay

00:35:18.900 and I'm not

00:35:19.520 a Nikki Haley defender myself

00:35:21.960 but I will say

00:35:23.720 even though I don't like

00:35:25.620 Nikki Haley

00:35:26.080 I will say

00:35:27.180 she's

00:35:27.540 I feel

00:35:28.900 relatively

00:35:30.020 certain

00:35:31.100 that she is not

00:35:32.380 in favor of slavery

00:35:33.300 and she's also not

00:35:35.060 a secret confederate sympathizer

00:35:36.360 like I don't think

00:35:37.160 if you went to her house

00:35:37.940 you would find

00:35:38.600 a room full of

00:35:39.660 confederate flags

00:35:40.800 and memorabilia

00:35:42.200 that she keeps

00:35:43.120 in a secret vault somewhere

00:35:44.100 I don't think that

00:35:45.440 I mean

00:35:46.620 she put herself

00:35:47.340 on the map

00:35:47.920 politically

00:35:48.500 by removing

00:35:50.820 confederate flags

00:35:51.700 from the South Carolina

00:35:52.460 state capitol

00:35:53.060 she has long been

00:35:55.160 a champion

00:35:55.700 of tearing down

00:35:56.560 flags and statues

00:35:57.480 she worshipped

00:35:59.000 at the BLM altar

00:35:59.920 during George Floyd

00:36:01.540 so she would have

00:36:04.600 no problem

00:36:05.200 giving the standard

00:36:06.260 sort of

00:36:07.100 acceptable answer

00:36:08.460 to that question

00:36:09.240 and you know

00:36:11.200 saying that the Civil War

00:36:12.520 is about slavery

00:36:13.100 and nothing else

00:36:13.780 I don't think

00:36:15.260 she was trying

00:36:15.720 to pander

00:36:17.280 to

00:36:17.860 who knows

00:36:19.800 what demographic

00:36:20.480 I don't think

00:36:21.060 that's what was

00:36:21.380 happening there

00:36:21.860 I think

00:36:23.300 she's just

00:36:23.840 an airhead

00:36:24.500 and that's it

00:36:26.940 like the truth is

00:36:28.620 she really doesn't

00:36:29.320 know anything

00:36:30.120 about the Civil War

00:36:31.140 so I think

00:36:31.940 when she was asked

00:36:32.960 that question

00:36:33.660 she panicked

00:36:34.320 not because she's

00:36:36.240 afraid to talk

00:36:36.940 about slavery

00:36:37.460 but

00:36:37.740 she probably

00:36:39.600 doesn't even know

00:36:40.280 what century

00:36:41.000 the Civil War

00:36:41.600 was fought in

00:36:42.380 and it's not just

00:36:43.620 her by the way

00:36:44.300 okay

00:36:44.720 it's like

00:36:45.060 most politicians

00:36:45.960 one thing

00:36:47.440 you have to

00:36:47.760 understand

00:36:48.060 is that

00:36:48.340 most of our

00:36:48.900 politicians

00:36:49.360 not all of them

00:36:49.940 but most of them

00:36:50.380 are actually

00:36:51.600 very stupid

00:36:52.280 these are not

00:36:53.480 intelligent people

00:36:54.240 this is probably

00:36:55.360 if we could do

00:36:55.860 an IQ test

00:36:56.500 of everybody

00:36:56.900 in the Senate

00:36:58.700 right now

00:36:59.500 in the House

00:37:00.180 everyone in Congress

00:37:01.420 let's say

00:37:01.740 do an IQ test

00:37:02.480 I doubt on average

00:37:04.640 that they break 85

00:37:05.600 okay

00:37:06.380 so they're like

00:37:07.180 barely above room

00:37:08.280 temperature

00:37:08.640 with their IQ

00:37:09.300 and that's what

00:37:11.440 you saw there

00:37:12.040 it's not any

00:37:13.420 secret thing

00:37:14.300 where she's racist

00:37:15.060 no she just

00:37:16.160 doesn't know

00:37:16.560 she was way over

00:37:18.420 her skis

00:37:18.680 the moment someone

00:37:19.200 brought up the Civil War

00:37:20.140 she was way over

00:37:20.740 her skis

00:37:21.100 and she knew it

00:37:21.720 and that's why

00:37:22.600 she tried to pivot

00:37:23.260 back

00:37:23.560 what do you think

00:37:24.300 I don't know

00:37:25.740 what's your opinion

00:37:26.320 that classic tactic

00:37:29.300 I tried that myself

00:37:31.200 when I was a kid

00:37:31.920 and I get a pop quiz

00:37:32.900 and I asked a question

00:37:34.400 by my teacher

00:37:34.900 I said what do you think

00:37:36.180 you tell me

00:37:36.560 I want your thoughts

00:37:37.060 I want to hear

00:37:37.520 your thoughts first

00:37:38.060 then I'll let you know

00:37:38.860 also being an

00:37:42.660 establishment GOP type

00:37:44.040 she instinctively

00:37:45.160 wants to tie

00:37:46.040 everything back

00:37:47.020 to establishment

00:37:47.780 GOP talking points

00:37:48.900 and that's why

00:37:49.500 she went on

00:37:49.960 about the role

00:37:50.580 of government

00:37:51.200 and freedom

00:37:52.920 and capitalism

00:37:53.860 I mean

00:37:55.700 the role of government

00:37:57.020 and capitalism

00:37:57.820 had nothing to do

00:37:58.840 with the Civil War

00:37:59.460 okay

00:37:59.620 they were not

00:38:00.080 fighting over capitalism

00:38:01.480 but she ties it

00:38:03.820 back to that

00:38:04.220 because those

00:38:04.800 are the talking

00:38:05.280 points

00:38:05.740 and it's all

00:38:07.020 she knows

00:38:07.500 and this is

00:38:09.340 what they do

00:38:10.440 this is

00:38:10.880 every question

00:38:12.060 every question

00:38:13.480 you're going to

00:38:15.540 get something

00:38:15.960 about

00:38:16.320 well you know

00:38:16.940 the government's

00:38:17.540 too big

00:38:17.960 the government's

00:38:19.140 too big

00:38:19.500 and it's

00:38:20.240 economic freedom

00:38:21.100 lower taxes

00:38:22.860 that's it

00:38:25.880 that's all

00:38:26.240 whatever

00:38:27.180 you could ask her

00:38:27.780 but like

00:38:28.080 I don't know

00:38:28.540 what's the surface

00:38:29.500 temperature of the sun

00:38:30.440 and she'll give you

00:38:31.040 something about

00:38:31.580 the role of government

00:38:32.900 all that said

00:38:35.880 most of her critics

00:38:38.760 on this issue

00:38:39.520 are also

00:38:40.320 wrong

00:38:42.060 or at least

00:38:42.800 not fully right

00:38:43.980 because everyone

00:38:45.500 just wants her to say

00:38:46.800 that slavery

00:38:47.780 was the cause

00:38:48.760 and that's it

00:38:50.120 as if that's all

00:38:51.800 that can or should

00:38:52.560 be said about

00:38:53.120 the Civil War

00:38:53.680 but like literally

00:38:55.320 any other war

00:38:56.360 that's ever been fought

00:38:57.500 anywhere on earth

00:38:58.600 for the entirety

00:38:59.280 of the history

00:39:00.300 of human civilization

00:39:01.040 it is more complicated

00:39:02.980 than that

00:39:03.980 okay

00:39:04.220 no war

00:39:06.020 that's ever been fought

00:39:07.720 can be explained

00:39:09.380 with a single word

00:39:10.900 it just doesn't

00:39:12.560 the history of the world

00:39:13.600 doesn't work that way

00:39:14.540 there's always more to it

00:39:15.960 which doesn't mean

00:39:18.560 we can't identify

00:39:19.380 good guys and bad guys

00:39:20.900 I mean

00:39:21.140 some wars you can

00:39:22.280 some wars you can't

00:39:23.100 depending

00:39:23.320 you know

00:39:23.800 we're talking about

00:39:24.340 a broad subject

00:39:25.100 of war here

00:39:25.960 but all I'm saying

00:39:26.620 is that there has

00:39:28.220 never been a war

00:39:29.140 so simple

00:39:29.820 that if someone

00:39:30.420 asked you

00:39:30.720 what caused it

00:39:31.280 you could just

00:39:31.540 give them one word

00:39:32.620 and that's it

00:39:33.960 and with the Civil War

00:39:37.660 there was more to it

00:39:38.600 I mean obviously

00:39:39.160 slavery was a

00:39:39.900 significant factor

00:39:40.640 but the division

00:39:42.520 between the North

00:39:43.660 and the South

00:39:44.080 ran deeper than that

00:39:45.100 but I think

00:39:46.460 more importantly

00:39:47.200 and this is the

00:39:49.780 important distinction

00:39:50.380 for me

00:39:50.800 when it comes to

00:39:51.380 the Civil War

00:39:52.160 and history

00:39:52.460 the Civil War

00:39:53.020 and the causes

00:39:53.480 the motivations

00:39:54.960 rather really

00:39:55.660 this is the most

00:39:58.040 important distinction

00:39:58.700 and this is also

00:39:59.840 the point

00:40:02.160 that should come

00:40:02.700 into play

00:40:03.380 when we're talking

00:40:04.260 about

00:40:04.720 you know

00:40:05.540 a statue

00:40:06.680 of Robert E. Lee

00:40:07.520 or something

00:40:08.020 and whether we

00:40:08.820 should tear it down

00:40:09.460 and we shouldn't

00:40:10.520 and the reason

00:40:11.900 that we shouldn't

00:40:12.680 is that

00:40:14.520 there is a

00:40:15.920 distinction

00:40:16.360 to be made

00:40:17.420 in every war

00:40:19.420 but especially

00:40:20.120 in the Civil War

00:40:20.740 between the

00:40:22.180 political

00:40:22.740 macro

00:40:24.180 macro level

00:40:24.780 causes

00:40:25.200 and

00:40:26.960 the personal

00:40:28.040 motivations

00:40:28.680 of the people

00:40:29.720 doing the fighting

00:40:30.720 so

00:40:31.260 in the macro

00:40:33.360 slavery was a

00:40:35.140 central cause

00:40:35.820 of the Civil War

00:40:36.840 it was a well

00:40:38.580 established historical

00:40:39.300 fact

00:40:39.600 individually however

00:40:42.240 the men

00:40:42.840 who did the fighting

00:40:44.080 did not consider

00:40:46.180 themselves

00:40:46.680 to be fighting

00:40:47.440 over slavery

00:40:48.280 on either side

00:40:49.680 for the most part

00:40:51.360 and especially

00:40:51.860 in the beginning

00:40:52.580 the men

00:40:55.240 who marched

00:40:55.720 down

00:40:56.180 from the north

00:40:57.300 were as far

00:40:59.920 as they were

00:41:00.460 concerned

00:41:01.040 were not going

00:41:01.900 to war

00:41:02.240 to free the slaves

00:41:03.440 most of them

00:41:05.240 would not have

00:41:06.000 taken up arms

00:41:06.860 for that purpose

00:41:07.720 and the men

00:41:10.340 fighting in the south

00:41:11.120 were certainly

00:41:11.620 not going to war

00:41:13.080 as far as they

00:41:13.600 were concerned

00:41:14.080 to keep slaves

00:41:15.220 considering that

00:41:16.300 almost none of them

00:41:16.860 had slaves

00:41:17.440 I mean the men

00:41:18.840 who were doing

00:41:19.100 the fighting

00:41:19.340 these were poor

00:41:19.900 farm boys

00:41:20.500 most of them

00:41:21.280 didn't have shoes

00:41:21.920 they didn't have

00:41:22.700 slaves

00:41:23.000 and they weren't

00:41:25.480 out there

00:41:26.140 bleeding and dying

00:41:27.040 to protect

00:41:28.140 the farmer

00:41:30.860 Jim's plantation

00:41:31.800 down the street

00:41:32.460 and the slaves

00:41:33.140 that's not what

00:41:33.960 they were

00:41:34.340 that's not what

00:41:34.980 moves people

00:41:35.880 to fight

00:41:37.020 and to die

00:41:39.340 in such desperate

00:41:40.300 situations

00:41:41.020 the men

00:41:43.280 from the north

00:41:44.080 thought of themselves

00:41:45.200 as fighting

00:41:45.740 to preserve

00:41:46.300 the union

00:41:46.800 and the men

00:41:48.500 from the south

00:41:49.120 thought of themselves

00:41:49.940 as fighting

00:41:50.540 to defend

00:41:51.300 their homeland

00:41:51.760 and if you

00:41:53.080 were to ask

00:41:53.680 them

00:41:53.960 if you were

00:41:54.360 to go back

00:41:54.720 at a time

00:41:55.140 machine

00:41:55.460 to 1861

00:41:56.620 and go up

00:41:58.260 and you know

00:41:59.000 walk onto the

00:42:00.360 battlefield

00:42:00.620 which I wouldn't

00:42:01.040 recommend

00:42:01.340 and ask

00:42:03.340 any of the

00:42:03.660 confederate soldiers

00:42:04.460 why they're

00:42:05.420 fighting

00:42:05.720 that's probably

00:42:07.420 the answer

00:42:07.840 they would give

00:42:08.340 they probably

00:42:10.640 would not say

00:42:11.300 we want to

00:42:11.660 keep slaves

00:42:12.240 they would say

00:42:13.040 something like

00:42:13.700 I'm defending

00:42:14.640 my home

00:42:15.060 this is my home

00:42:15.940 Robert E. Lee

00:42:18.320 famously

00:42:19.260 decided to fight

00:42:21.560 for the south

00:42:22.540 rather than

00:42:23.300 you know

00:42:23.880 being a commander

00:42:25.200 in the north

00:42:25.620 and he made

00:42:27.560 that decision

00:42:28.180 not because

00:42:30.060 he wanted

00:42:31.200 to keep slaves

00:42:31.860 but because

00:42:33.120 from his perspective

00:42:34.720 he needed

00:42:36.760 to defend

00:42:37.320 his home

00:42:37.800 and he considered

00:42:38.320 his home

00:42:38.700 to be Virginia

00:42:39.420 more than

00:42:40.500 you know

00:42:40.980 if he were to

00:42:41.600 think about

00:42:41.900 what's my home

00:42:42.520 it would be

00:42:42.940 the state of

00:42:43.660 Virginia

00:42:43.980 not the United

00:42:44.920 States as a whole

00:42:45.700 that's the way

00:42:46.440 he saw it

00:42:46.880 that's the way

00:42:47.180 he thought of it

00:42:47.760 that's the way

00:42:49.220 most people

00:42:49.540 thought of it

00:42:50.000 back in those

00:42:50.560 days

00:42:50.820 and that's

00:42:52.580 what I'm talking

00:42:54.020 about right now

00:42:54.440 is not some

00:42:54.960 like

00:42:55.220 deep

00:42:56.580 brilliant

00:42:59.040 insight

00:42:59.460 this is just

00:43:00.240 the general

00:43:00.900 understanding

00:43:01.520 and the

00:43:02.680 insight

00:43:03.140 that most

00:43:04.300 people

00:43:04.680 have understood

00:43:05.280 for

00:43:06.720 you know

00:43:07.580 almost

00:43:09.160 since the

00:43:09.700 world war

00:43:10.140 was fought

00:43:10.560 and that's

00:43:12.420 why

00:43:12.720 most people

00:43:13.560 up until

00:43:14.020 recently

00:43:14.440 have

00:43:15.400 not had

00:43:16.220 much of

00:43:16.460 a problem

00:43:16.820 with

00:43:17.180 the statue

00:43:17.700 of Robert E. Lee

00:43:18.320 the building

00:43:19.280 named after him

00:43:20.080 because they

00:43:21.120 were able

00:43:21.580 to separate

00:43:22.220 even if they

00:43:23.180 wouldn't have

00:43:23.420 explained it

00:43:23.920 in quite these

00:43:24.280 terms

00:43:24.400 they were able

00:43:25.060 to separate

00:43:25.760 the macro

00:43:26.260 political

00:43:26.560 causes

00:43:26.960 from the

00:43:28.120 men

00:43:28.500 themselves

00:43:28.940 and they

00:43:31.980 were able

00:43:32.280 to understand

00:43:33.000 that

00:43:34.120 that this

00:43:35.080 was not

00:43:35.620 a you know

00:43:36.420 this was not

00:43:36.960 a cartoon

00:43:37.600 being fought

00:43:38.540 this was not

00:43:39.000 a cartoon

00:43:39.420 these were not

00:43:40.020 you know

00:43:40.840 cartoonish

00:43:42.880 villains

00:43:44.540 these were

00:43:47.060 human beings

00:43:47.840 and their

00:43:50.180 motivations

00:43:50.780 and what

00:43:51.320 drove them

00:43:51.860 was far

00:43:52.360 more complex

00:43:52.940 than what

00:43:54.540 we like to

00:43:54.980 pretend today

00:43:55.580 so anyway

00:43:58.200 Nikki Haley

00:43:58.660 could have said

00:43:59.040 something like

00:43:59.420 that but I

00:44:01.300 guess I'm not

00:44:01.920 surprised that

00:44:02.400 she didn't

00:44:02.840 all right

00:44:04.260 finally

00:44:06.080 okay one other

00:44:07.440 thing I wanted

00:44:07.780 to play this

00:44:08.220 video that's

00:44:09.600 making the

00:44:09.940 rounds on

00:44:10.340 Twitter and

00:44:11.200 I'm not sure

00:44:11.680 when it was

00:44:12.000 recorded but

00:44:12.600 it has

00:44:12.840 something to

00:44:13.240 do well

00:44:15.600 it relates

00:44:18.720 to something

00:44:19.140 that's been

00:44:19.460 that I've seen

00:44:20.000 mentioned heard

00:44:20.560 mentioned a lot

00:44:21.180 recently and

00:44:22.720 this is something

00:44:23.240 that's popular

00:44:23.880 among trans

00:44:24.600 activists it's

00:44:25.180 called the

00:44:25.600 button test

00:44:26.340 and maybe you

00:44:28.480 haven't heard of

00:44:28.840 the button test

00:44:29.360 yet you're about

00:44:30.280 to hear about

00:44:30.660 but if you go

00:44:32.500 on TikTok or

00:44:33.300 Reddit or

00:44:34.160 wherever you'll

00:44:35.520 find trans

00:44:36.140 activists talking

00:44:37.680 about this now

00:44:38.240 it's very popular

00:44:39.200 this button

00:44:41.340 testing and the

00:44:42.000 button test is

00:44:43.220 supposed to be a

00:44:44.280 test that determines

00:44:45.400 if you're really

00:44:46.240 trans or not

00:44:47.260 so it's like the

00:44:48.600 Turing test but

00:44:50.100 for trans instead

00:44:51.160 of robots and

00:44:52.940 this according to

00:44:53.580 trans activists is

00:44:54.460 what decides if

00:44:55.760 you're actually

00:44:56.020 trans if you're

00:44:56.420 questioning whether

00:44:56.980 you're trans well

00:44:58.240 they'll tell you

00:44:59.120 take the button

00:45:00.360 test and if you

00:45:02.020 pass it then you're

00:45:02.820 trans let's listen

00:45:04.040 to this trans

00:45:04.580 active is

00:45:04.940 explain it

00:45:05.400 go ahead

00:45:05.640 there's a test

00:45:07.380 that's been going

00:45:07.880 on in the

00:45:08.280 transgender community

00:45:09.180 for years

00:45:09.900 called the button

00:45:10.860 test and this is

00:45:12.140 a test to determine

00:45:12.960 whether or not a

00:45:13.860 questioning person

00:45:14.660 may be transgender

00:45:15.760 so the test goes

00:45:16.820 like this

00:45:17.280 imagine there's a

00:45:18.480 button that's placed

00:45:19.080 in front of you

00:45:19.700 and it will change

00:45:20.780 your gender

00:45:21.240 everybody will see

00:45:22.880 you as that gender

00:45:23.720 and imagine you've

00:45:24.740 always been that

00:45:25.360 gender

00:45:25.680 do you press it

00:45:27.100 now usually there's

00:45:28.580 also a catch

00:45:29.460 added to the end

00:45:30.320 it will only appear

00:45:31.960 in front of you

00:45:32.560 once so this

00:45:33.480 button cannot be

00:45:34.940 reversed once you

00:45:35.980 press it your

00:45:36.800 gender is changed

00:45:37.660 permanently so if

00:45:39.040 you're a questioning

00:45:39.520 person and you found

00:45:40.380 yourself answering

00:45:41.080 yes before I got to

00:45:42.040 the end of that

00:45:42.480 sentence that's a

00:45:43.620 very common reaction

00:45:44.560 among questioning

00:45:45.380 people that later do

00:45:46.300 transition so the

00:45:47.880 reason that this

00:45:48.400 works is because

00:45:49.120 most pre-transition

00:45:50.220 people would love to

00:45:51.580 exist as their

00:45:52.180 desired gender but

00:45:53.400 the process of

00:45:54.120 transition is far

00:45:55.380 too scary for them

00:45:56.380 and I just want to

00:45:57.680 let those people know

00:45:58.420 that I was scared

00:45:59.400 too whenever I

00:46:00.060 transitioned but being

00:46:01.940 scared does not

00:46:03.080 make you not

00:46:03.800 transgender it

00:46:05.000 makes you normal

00:46:05.680 so if you're a man

00:46:08.380 who would press a

00:46:09.160 magical button to

00:46:10.000 become a woman then

00:46:10.840 you're trans and

00:46:12.240 this again is what

00:46:13.060 they have come up

00:46:13.860 with to determine

00:46:14.540 this it's not

00:46:16.300 it almost sounds

00:46:18.540 like a straw man

00:46:20.500 invented by the

00:46:21.800 other side but it's

00:46:23.720 not this is what

00:46:24.200 they've come up with

00:46:24.880 and it completely

00:46:26.680 undermines their own

00:46:27.760 position for many

00:46:28.680 reasons and let's

00:46:30.340 just look at one

00:46:31.520 reason the most

00:46:33.080 obvious which is

00:46:33.660 that this test could

00:46:34.400 be applied to

00:46:35.160 literally anything

00:46:36.420 okay there are

00:46:37.860 lots of short men

00:46:39.040 who would certainly

00:46:40.140 press a button to

00:46:41.340 become six inches

00:46:42.460 taller so you know

00:46:45.500 does that mean that

00:46:46.560 a man who's five

00:46:47.680 foot six is really a

00:46:50.120 trans six footer

00:46:51.540 there are women who

00:46:53.100 would press a button

00:46:53.660 to have a different

00:46:54.940 body still a female

00:46:56.380 body but just like a

00:46:57.320 different body than

00:46:57.900 one they have there

00:46:58.800 are people who I'm

00:46:59.340 sure would press a

00:46:59.900 button to become an

00:47:00.920 eagle flying gracefully

00:47:02.680 in the sky there are

00:47:04.460 people who would

00:47:04.920 press a button for

00:47:05.680 sure I wouldn't but

00:47:07.440 there are plenty of

00:47:07.820 people to press a

00:47:08.280 button to become Jeff

00:47:09.100 Bezos okay does that

00:47:11.780 make them trans Bezos

00:47:13.060 because they would

00:47:14.140 press the magical

00:47:14.760 button to become him

00:47:15.600 if they could be you

00:47:16.840 know the fact that you

00:47:17.440 would press a button to

00:47:18.220 become something other

00:47:19.120 than yourself does not

00:47:20.140 mean that you are

00:47:21.100 something other than

00:47:21.980 yourself and that's the

00:47:23.000 biggest problem here

00:47:23.760 because remember what

00:47:24.720 they say they say you

00:47:25.520 know trans women are

00:47:26.560 women right that's what

00:47:27.260 they claim so what

00:47:28.500 he's saying is that a

00:47:30.680 man who would press a

00:47:31.580 button to become a

00:47:32.460 woman is a woman the

00:47:37.100 very fact that you

00:47:37.760 desire to be a woman

00:47:39.100 means that you are one

00:47:41.320 is what they're saying

00:47:42.540 but how can you have a

00:47:44.880 desire to become

00:47:46.100 something that you

00:47:47.420 already are I mean the

00:47:48.660 fact that you would

00:47:49.500 press a button to

00:47:50.840 become a woman actually

00:47:52.480 means that you are not

00:47:53.720 a woman I mean that in

00:47:54.560 it of itself proves that

00:47:55.720 you're not one like ask

00:47:58.100 any take give that same

00:47:59.520 test to any woman give

00:48:00.720 them the magical button

00:48:01.420 test would you press a

00:48:02.240 button to become a

00:48:02.740 woman they would say no

00:48:04.880 I wouldn't what do you

00:48:05.540 mean press I am like

00:48:06.640 press it to become what I

00:48:07.540 am and yet so this is

00:48:12.740 actually a thing that

00:48:13.440 that proves that you're

00:48:14.260 not a woman and yet they

00:48:15.360 use it as proof that you

00:48:16.180 are I mean but notice

00:48:17.420 something else notice what

00:48:18.240 we're talking about we're

00:48:19.040 talking about desire right

00:48:20.800 we're talking about what

00:48:21.300 someone desires to be and

00:48:23.920 that brings us back to

00:48:24.640 something that I've been

00:48:25.500 telling you for a while

00:48:26.280 which is that most trans

00:48:28.860 people are not actually

00:48:30.500 delusional in the sense

00:48:32.000 that you might think

00:48:33.140 because being trans despite

00:48:37.340 what we've been told doesn't

00:48:39.120 actually mean that you think

00:48:40.920 you are something else it

00:48:42.620 just means that you want to

00:48:43.940 be something else a quote

00:48:46.580 unquote trans woman is not

00:48:47.880 a man who thinks he's a

00:48:48.960 woman I mean in some cases

00:48:50.180 maybe but really in most

00:48:52.600 cases this is just a man who

00:48:53.900 wants to be a woman so

00:48:56.420 when we affirm his

00:48:57.320 womanhood we're not

00:48:58.020 affirming his delusions

00:48:59.040 that'd be bad enough right

00:49:00.500 playing along with some

00:49:01.980 confused person's illusions

00:49:03.600 is bad but but it's worse

00:49:06.360 than that because actually

00:49:07.400 we are affirming his desire

00:49:09.820 we are saying well you want

00:49:11.860 to be this but you're not

00:49:13.720 this so we'll pretend you

00:49:16.100 are that to make you feel

00:49:18.960 better and and of course I

00:49:21.620 you might say well that's of

00:49:22.700 course that's always what but

00:49:23.900 the point is that even on the

00:49:25.840 trans side that's how they see

00:49:27.760 it they don't actually the guy

00:49:30.240 you just saw in that clip he

00:49:31.920 doesn't actually think he's a

00:49:32.660 woman he knows he's not he just

00:49:35.680 wants to be one and he likes

00:49:37.100 being seen as one it's about

00:49:40.100 desire not about the delusion

00:49:43.460 actually most of the time now you

00:49:47.460 might say it's kind of semantics

00:49:48.420 because I whether it's desire or

00:49:49.780 delusion or both you're still

00:49:51.620 not a woman but I do think this

00:49:54.160 is an important detail that they

00:49:55.420 have unwittingly revealed all

00:49:58.000 right let's get to was Walsh

00:49:59.740 wrong

00:49:59.960 okay so for our was Walsh

00:50:06.520 wrong segment we're gonna go

00:50:07.680 back to a video that we posted

00:50:10.380 to my YouTube channel over the

00:50:11.920 break and it's probably the most

00:50:13.880 important video we've ever

00:50:15.960 produced or that anyone at the

00:50:18.140 Daily Wire has ever produced and

00:50:20.580 in the video I come to the

00:50:21.680 defense of some of the most

00:50:22.800 unfairly maligned Disney villains

00:50:24.960 you know from the classic Disney

00:50:28.080 films I explain why some of the

00:50:29.240 classic Disney villains were

00:50:32.680 actually right why did we make

00:50:35.080 this video well self-evident because

00:50:37.780 it's an important topic obviously so

00:50:39.760 lots of comments and disagreement

00:50:40.960 we'll read some of them first one

00:50:43.020 says in Gaston's case there was the

00:50:45.160 whole thing of Gaston getting the

00:50:47.160 owner of the insane asylum to come

00:50:48.840 for Maurice so Gaston could

00:50:50.960 blackmail Bell into marrying him

00:50:52.920 that was definitely on the evil

00:50:54.980 side yeah yeah even if this is

00:50:58.340 possibly a parody you do propose

00:50:59.860 some interesting ideas and I

00:51:00.860 wouldn't mind seeing your take on

00:51:02.160 other villains an easy one might be

00:51:04.180 the villain in Up I never saw Up

00:51:07.300 isn't that the one where he floats

00:51:08.620 into the sky on a balloon or

00:51:09.900 something he ties balloons to his

00:51:12.080 I never got that one I never

00:51:13.440 understood see isn't that what

00:51:14.980 happens in that one so is there a

00:51:16.700 villain in that movie who would the

00:51:18.940 villain be gravity I'll come to

00:51:22.400 gravity's defense any day demand

00:51:26.520 myth the legend says I can't tell if

00:51:28.960 Matt is joking about Gaston or if he's

00:51:30.560 serious like the dude tried to force

00:51:32.320 Bell into a relationship with him by

00:51:33.740 threatening that if she didn't he

00:51:35.600 would have her father thrown into an

00:51:37.280 insane asylum he's clearly a

00:51:39.180 narcissist never would have actually

00:51:40.960 treated Bell as a partner the dude is

00:51:42.460 basically the Andrew Tate of Disney

00:51:43.960 villains also to top it all off you

00:51:46.760 watch the film Gaston at multiple

00:51:48.080 points shows extreme lack of gun

00:51:50.380 safety pointing his gun at others and

00:51:51.920 at a certain point even as his own

00:51:53.220 barrel pointing at his own head as he

00:51:55.300 rests on it as a deer hunter this lack

00:51:58.020 of safety and carelessness cannot stand

00:51:59.500 listen I never said Gaston is perfect I

00:52:02.920 mean we all have flaws but I also and

00:52:06.480 the gun safety I mean that is that's

00:52:08.000 that's one point against probably the

00:52:09.920 only point against him is the gun

00:52:11.000 safety bit which you're right about

00:52:12.320 that I also think he's probably

00:52:14.520 justified in putting Bell's father

00:52:16.120 that's Maurice right as Bell's father

00:52:17.560 I'm also a disadvantage in this

00:52:19.340 because you should also know that we

00:52:21.380 made this whole video about Disney

00:52:23.140 movies and I have not seen any of

00:52:24.760 these movies in like 30 years so I'm

00:52:27.220 going based on vague memory which

00:52:29.880 isn't to say that I'm not 100% right

00:52:31.420 about everything I said of course I'm

00:52:32.600 100% right but I also I'm reading

00:52:34.300 some of these comments I'm like I don't

00:52:35.440 know who that is who's Maurice I think

00:52:37.420 that's Bell's father right well he

00:52:38.880 he deserved to be put in a saying

00:52:40.200 this guy's crazy right he's in his

00:52:41.500 basement making these weird

00:52:44.280 inventions is neglecting his daughter

00:52:47.280 who's like starving to death or

00:52:48.780 whatever right I mean that's part of

00:52:49.820 it I think another one says tidbits of

00:52:57.520 wisdom from Matt Walsh killing your

00:52:58.980 brother and trying to kill your nephew

00:53:00.360 is inappropriate that is you know and

00:53:02.460 look we talked about Scar from Lion

00:53:04.920 King another unfairly maligned villain

00:53:07.320 I will say again none of these guys

00:53:08.860 are perfect nobody is and I think

00:53:12.340 Scar's one misstep that I'm perfectly

00:53:15.720 willing to say in you know is

00:53:17.560 inappropriate behavior is yeah he did

00:53:19.980 he did kill his brother and he tried

00:53:22.220 to kill his nephew and I certainly

00:53:23.640 would not condone that kind of

00:53:25.240 behavior but other than that I think

00:53:28.860 you can kind of see where he's coming

00:53:29.760 from Abe versus the world says

00:53:34.340 actually Matt Snow White was put to

00:53:36.160 sleep that's why the body was not

00:53:37.740 decaying and when Gaston was

00:53:40.380 marching to kill the beast he locked

00:53:42.600 Bell in her cellar I think his motive

00:53:43.980 was just to stroke his ego not save

00:53:45.580 Bell as for the rest of your points

00:53:47.440 it was funny and made some points you

00:53:49.300 know I saw a lot of this you know

00:53:51.160 because Snow White didn't really die

00:53:53.440 she was asleep okay fine they didn't

00:53:57.300 know that though so this is my point

00:53:58.460 they didn't know that she was that

00:54:01.400 that the apple had put her to sleep

00:54:02.880 I also like why is that the case so

00:54:05.180 the evil queen poisoned Snow White with

00:54:09.900 a with a poison that only puts her on

00:54:11.600 knocks her unconscious why why wouldn't

00:54:14.720 it have killed her what was like what

00:54:16.000 was the plan there but at any rate they

00:54:19.380 thought she was dead they had her in a

00:54:21.240 coffin and they were having this wake

00:54:23.580 for her and then the prince shows up

00:54:26.080 who does not know her and kisses a

00:54:29.680 woman who he thinks is dead on the

00:54:31.800 lips I mean speak of inappropriate

00:54:35.100 behavior can we not agree that's a

00:54:38.080 little bit strange at least number you

00:54:40.460 don't know this person what are you

00:54:42.220 even doing at the wake of course

00:54:44.780 nobody stops and ask that question like

00:54:46.500 how do you know the deceased no one

00:54:48.320 asks that and then he walks up and

00:54:49.900 kisses her on the lips thinking that

00:54:51.460 she's dead have you ever seen someone

00:54:53.240 do that away what if you had if your

00:54:56.760 grandmother died and someone who's not

00:55:00.040 even affiliated with your family walks

00:55:03.100 into the wake and kisses her on the

00:55:05.920 lips when she's in the coffin think about

00:55:08.580 it all right I think we probably okay

00:55:12.960 one other sneaky says the little

00:55:14.640 mermaid is when Disney began there your

00:55:16.540 parents are wrong and you're right binge

00:55:18.400 from that point on a protagonist parents

00:55:20.200 were flat-out wrong complete idiots the

00:55:22.100 villains themselves or in the best case

00:55:23.700 absent with little to no input the

00:55:26.500 exception is the lion king whereas Matt

00:55:28.040 points out the supremely wise strong

00:55:29.720 gentle father is actually a cruel

00:55:31.280 authoritarian dictator uses religion to

00:55:34.040 justify killing his subjects whenever he

00:55:35.760 wants I mean yeah but that was the

00:55:37.980 positive side of him yeah you know

00:55:40.880 Ariel's father is is maybe the best

00:55:42.960 example of this I don't even think we

00:55:44.180 mentioned it in the video and he I

00:55:45.660 guess he's not the villain of the story

00:55:46.860 technically but I think from what I

00:55:49.540 remember of that movie he we're

00:55:52.760 supposed to think that he's overly

00:55:53.780 strict or something because he doesn't

00:55:56.200 want Ariel who in the movie is like

00:55:58.300 she's a kid and he doesn't want her to

00:56:00.800 go to the surface of the water but think

00:56:03.760 about it and we're supposed to be like

00:56:06.300 against him on but from a mermaid's

00:56:09.660 perspective going to the surface of the

00:56:11.360 water is like a human going to the

00:56:13.620 bottom of the ocean and so what it's

00:56:17.320 like okay would you would you allow

00:56:20.640 your child to just jump into the ocean

00:56:24.180 whenever they want and swim to the

00:56:25.660 bottom of the ocean no you wouldn't so

00:56:30.980 I think it's just this basic

00:56:32.440 responsible parenting and yeah he

00:56:34.540 doesn't want her to affiliate with the

00:56:35.940 humans at the surface because he knows

00:56:37.740 the humans will think she's some kind of

00:56:38.900 monstrous freak it's it's unsafe for

00:56:42.940 her so that's another one too we could

00:56:46.580 talk about this for you know for the

00:56:50.360 next 20 minutes maybe we should but

00:56:51.780 instead we'll move on it's time to

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00:58:16.760 for our first cancellation of the new

00:58:24.640 year we head up to beautiful lake

00:58:26.340 washington near the city of seattle now

00:58:28.420 just to be clear i use the word

00:58:30.380 beautiful to describe specifically the

00:58:32.280 physical topography of the area if you

00:58:35.040 are standing on the bank of the lake and

00:58:37.580 looking out straight ahead you might

00:58:39.340 admire the clear water and the trees and

00:58:41.400 the mountains in the distance just don't

00:58:43.720 look over to your side or over your

00:58:45.740 shoulder because if you do depending on

00:58:48.260 where you happen to be standing along

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00:58:53.700 people engaged in all manner of

00:58:55.500 activities that you do not want to see

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00:59:00.500 thing standing between your eyeline and

00:59:02.340 their fully exposed physique will be the

00:59:04.920 glare reflecting off of their many body

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00:59:10.060 risk of getting an eye full of naked

00:59:11.580 flab if you travel anywhere in the

00:59:13.200 pacific northwest but on lake washington

00:59:15.300 the risk is even greater because that is

00:59:18.180 where it is the site of something called

00:59:20.380 denny blaine park which is we are

00:59:22.720 informed a beloved nudist beach popular

00:59:25.980 with the lgbt community in the area and in

00:59:29.300 fact this nudist beach is so popular and

00:59:31.980 so beloved that the lgbt community

00:59:34.460 recently came together no pun intended

00:59:36.300 to protest what they perceived as a mortal

00:59:39.240 threat to this hangout spot no pun

00:59:41.900 intended and the threat came in the form

00:59:44.540 of a playground so backing up a little

00:59:46.860 bit a few months ago it was announced that

00:59:48.740 seattle parks and rec with the assistance

00:59:50.800 of a sizable donation from a private donor

00:59:52.900 plan to build a playground nearby and this

00:59:56.520 is a problem for the exhibitionist gaze over

00:59:58.620 at denny blaine because although it's legal

01:00:00.480 for them to gallivant around naked almost

01:00:02.880 anywhere in the city or state they still

01:00:05.080 aren't allowed to get naked in front of

01:00:06.580 children so they're only allowed to expose

01:00:09.360 themselves to other adults which is a

01:00:11.560 limitation that these people as we know

01:00:13.460 find quite cumbersome and this means that

01:00:16.620 a playground in view of the nudist beach

01:00:18.780 might one would certainly hope anyway

01:00:21.920 effectively shut down the nudist beach

01:00:24.300 they wouldn't be allowed to be nude there

01:00:25.720 anymore because they're kids which would

01:00:27.620 force gay nudists in the state to get

01:00:29.520 naked in any of the thousands of other

01:00:31.400 places where the behavior is allowed or

01:00:33.820 better yet in their own homes where you can

01:00:37.600 be naked all you want because I don't have

01:00:39.960 to be in your home or sit on your

01:00:41.880 contaminated furniture but that was not an

01:00:45.460 acceptable compromise because no compromise

01:00:47.480 of any kind in any context is ever

01:00:50.120 acceptable to these people the post

01:00:52.100 millennial reports quote colleen kimsey love

01:00:54.580 told king 5 news that the beach quote has

01:00:57.640 always been a place for the weird and the

01:00:59.120 wonderful noting that what makes seattle

01:01:00.960 such a wonderful city is the weirdos in an

01:01:04.220 open letter advocates said that said that

01:01:07.120 were seattle parks and rec to go along with

01:01:09.080 the plan it would be nothing short of

01:01:10.760 gentrification arguing that lgbtq plus

01:01:13.100 people do not have other spaces to go to

01:01:15.340 because but there are other spaces for a

01:01:18.220 children's play area to be built to meet

01:01:20.220 the stated need according to the king 5

01:01:23.020 news denny blaine park was originally

01:01:25.540 chosen due to the fact that there are no

01:01:27.520 playgrounds for residents within a 10 to

01:01:29.140 15 minute walk the 550 thousand dollar

01:01:31.740 children's outdoor space was set to be

01:01:33.220 entirely funded by a single donor who has

01:01:35.440 remained anonymous throughout the process

01:01:37.020 okay so what is more important what what's

01:01:41.180 the priority should we make sure that

01:01:42.960 families have a place within walking

01:01:44.480 distance to take their children to or is

01:01:47.420 it more crucial that we give gay adults yet

01:01:49.440 another place to be naked in public well

01:01:53.320 lgbtq activists had their answers so they

01:01:56.240 protested the playground they organized

01:01:58.280 they got a petition together got nearly 10,000

01:02:00.980 signatures on the petition they were

01:02:03.140 absolutely incensed that the city

01:02:05.160 considered prioritizing the needs of

01:02:06.860 children over the desires of self-described

01:02:09.900 weirdos local news had more on the

01:02:12.720 controversy listen i'm in denny blaine park

01:02:15.900 hundreds of people showed up at that meeting tonight because they say this place is a safe space

01:02:20.320 and putting a playground here would forever change that

01:02:23.000 as expected you guys can sign up here or their sign up to use in there as well

01:02:28.720 the proposal to put a playground at denny blaine park

01:02:31.320 brought out a lot of people all of them with their own story about the park and why they're against

01:02:38.040 the proposal we can just be ourselves where we can feel safe where we can feel heard where we can see one

01:02:44.460 another this is a place where people come up and they ask is it safe here am i accepting here and every time i've smiled and say yes

01:02:52.740 denny blaine is a noted lgbtq plus safe space it's been that way for decades under

01:02:58.020 washington law it's not illegal to be naked in public however it becomes illegal if kids are

01:03:03.360 nearby that's what this playground would do

01:03:06.240 want to preserve our spaces the people who showed up here believe the private anonymous donor who's willing to

01:03:11.000 front 550 000 for a playground wants to take that space away from them they say that it's not an

01:03:17.720 intention to displace queer communities or any specific community and that may be true on the park

01:03:22.720 site but i'd love to ask the anonymous donor whether that's true

01:03:28.880 there's also concern that someone with money to burn can make such a big change to a public park

01:03:34.080 instead we're letting people with a fair amount of money do an anonymous notation clearly choosing

01:03:39.840 how they want to see artwork i asked andy sheffer with seattle parks and rec about that anonymous donor

01:03:46.000 his response well i can't really talk about it a whole lot because it's anonymous but he did talk

01:03:50.400 about how moving the public comments were god you heard those stories you know if more people could

01:03:56.400 hear these stories it's much bigger than this part yes the stories the incredible stories the

01:04:04.400 inspirational heartwarming stories about gay people exposing their genitals to strangers

01:04:09.280 and if only more people could hear how important it is to gay people that they be allowed to expose their

01:04:13.680 genitals to strangers if only more people could understand just how devastating it is for the lgbt

01:04:18.720 community when they're prevented from taking their pants off in public well not prevented i mean

01:04:23.840 they're just told to move a few box blocks over and take their pants off over there instead

01:04:29.840 still that's simply too great a burden to bear i mean they want to take their pants off now

01:04:34.080 right here in this exact location if they can't they will die it will be a genocide a holocaust

01:04:40.720 if they cannot take their pants off right now in this place indeed lgbt people who aren't able to

01:04:47.200 take their pants off anywhere and everywhere they want all the time without restriction

01:04:51.440 are truly the most downtrodden among us i mean these are the suffering and the needy

01:04:57.840 forget starving people in africa forget children dying of cancer forget everyone and focus instead

01:05:04.160 on lgbt people always give them everything they want always all the time no matter what it is because

01:05:10.480 if you don't then you are killing them you are literally killing them that's the message you

01:05:16.400 heard it from the gay activists themselves they said they want to be themselves feel safe be heard

01:05:22.720 now you might point out that you know gay people can be themselves and feel safe and be heard

01:05:28.240 everywhere in the country there's probably no group safer and certainly there's no group heard more

01:05:34.240 often and louder than them but i think a more a more pressing question is is why being yourself and

01:05:42.560 feeling safe and being heard must always involve getting naked i mean why is lgbt safe space always a

01:05:49.680 euphemism for lgbt sexual exhibitionist zone it doesn't work that way for any other group of people

01:05:56.560 have you noticed that okay if you take any other group and you say well here's a safe space for you

01:06:01.040 they're not going to immediately strip off their clothes that's only how it works with lgbt safe

01:06:08.240 spaces and it's worth asking yourself why that is i mean i know why that is but you should ask yourself

01:06:16.880 but we haven't gotten to the best part of that local seattle news report um i want you to listen

01:06:20.880 to what this reporter mentions very briefly at the end listen no one at the meeting spoke for the

01:06:28.480 playground at this park i have put in a public information request for the name of the anonymous

01:06:32.880 owner and something else to note many people brought up a drowning risk they say there's no

01:06:37.440 lifeguards at this beach and if you put a playground here kids will be here upping the chance they could

01:06:42.160 drown okay so as a brief aside as a minor additional detail we're told that if they build the playground

01:06:50.000 at this location children might drown now the drowning risk thing is probably mostly contrived

01:06:57.120 playgrounds are built next to lakes all the time you know if you're watching your children on the

01:07:00.880 playground then it's not a problem i take my kids to playgrounds near lakes all the time it's like it's

01:07:04.560 not an issue uh because you know most people are not dropping their five-year-old off off at the

01:07:09.920 playground and then coming back to pick them up before sundown generally the children are watched by

01:07:15.120 adults and adults can keep them from wandering down to the water unsupervised but be that as it may

01:07:20.000 if you're actually worried that the playground presents a significant drowning risk to children

01:07:27.040 how is that not your top concern how is that not the headline i mean these people claim that a

01:07:33.920 playground at that location may well lead to children dying and yet that is somehow not their key

01:07:40.280 objection their key objection is that the children will interfere with their ability to be naked in public

01:07:45.480 so their list of priorities has getting naked in public at the top and preventing children from

01:07:52.760 drowning somewhere down below that these people are so unbelievably selfish that they can't even

01:07:59.760 pretend to care about anything more than satisfying their own sexual desires i mean it's the only thing

01:08:05.780 they care about in this world period and yet prepare yourself for the not so twist ending here

01:08:12.400 the lgbt protesters prevailed seattle ultimately decided to reject the 500 000 donation and scrap the

01:08:20.500 plans for the playground at that location on one hand you had families who wanted a place to take their

01:08:25.580 children to the park and on the other you had selfish degenerates and the selfish degenerates won

01:08:32.440 and by the way when i call them degenerates i'm only respecting their own preferred adjective an op-ed in

01:08:38.820 the local seattle publication the stranger addressing this controversy a few weeks ago had this headline

01:08:43.640 quote keep denny blaine degenerate and the author who remained anonymous wrote i've gone to this park

01:08:50.900 for years and as a child of a queer person who has lived in seattle since the 80s i know how critical

01:08:55.280 it is for us to maintain spaces where queer people don't need to worry about optics every damn second

01:09:00.060 in a world that's constantly repressing our identities is it not possible for queer people to have

01:09:04.200 one space really hoping the parks department chooses another site because i don't know where

01:09:09.420 else i can go and feel comfortable in my body in this damn city

01:09:12.840 yes where else in seattle can a gay person go well there's nowhere else for them in seattle

01:09:22.120 it's a funny thing you know most of us walk around in public every day feeling comfortable in our

01:09:28.160 bodies the whole time and yet we never feel the need to strip our clothes off and expose ourselves

01:09:32.520 to strangers but for this self-described degenerate and his friends the only way that he can feel

01:09:39.600 comfortable in his body is if his body is on full display for the world to see now in a sane society

01:09:45.620 we would hear that argument we would simply respond okay well i guess you're just not going to feel

01:09:51.620 comfortable then i mean that's if this is how you what you need to feel comfortable then you're just

01:09:56.820 not going to feel comfortable because we don't really care about your comfort that much it's not our

01:10:00.240 problem but in our society which is losing its grip on whatever semblance of sanity it still

01:10:06.020 possesses we cave and give these people whatever they want their sexual desires come before everything

01:10:13.420 and everyone all the time and that's how the gay nudists at denny blaine park got their way and

01:10:21.360 it's also why they are today canceled that'll do it for the show today thanks for watching thanks for listening

01:10:27.260 talk to you tomorrow have a great day godspeed

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The Matt Walsh Show - January 02, 2024

Ep. 1284 - Another Cowardly Republican Gov ernor Caves To The Trans Agenda

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