The Matt Walsh Show - January 15, 2024


Ep. 1293 - Corrupt Trump Prosecutor Plays The Most Absurd Race Card We’ve Ever Seen


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 11 minutes

Words per Minute

165.41252

Word Count

11,841

Sentence Count

839

Misogynist Sentences

43

Hate Speech Sentences

22


Summary

Fannie Willis, the DA in Fulton County, Georgia, is allegedly in a sexual relationship with the man that she hired to prosecute Trump. This would seem like a major scandal, but she says that if you have a problem with it, that s only because you re racist. Also, Donald Trump finally goes after Vivek Ramaswamy as the Iowa caucuses get underway. Nikki Haley gets a chance to answer the Can a Man Become a Woman question, and to no one s surprise, she flubs it. Plus, a woman secretly records herself getting fired.


Transcript

00:00:00.140 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Fannie Willis, the DA in Fulton County, Georgia, is allegedly in a
00:00:04.720 sexual relationship with the man that she hired to prosecute Trump. This would seem like a major
00:00:08.700 scandal, but she says that if you have a problem with it, that's only because you're racist. Also,
00:00:13.600 Donald Trump finally goes after Vivek Ramaswamy as the Iowa caucuses get underway. Nikki Haley
00:00:18.420 gets a chance to answer the can a man become a woman question, and to no one's surprise,
00:00:23.460 she flubs it. Plus, a woman secretly records herself getting fired. The video has gone
00:00:27.800 very viral. Most people are on the woman's side, but I have a different take.
00:00:32.440 I'll explain all that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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00:02:02.480 slash Walsh today. Welcome to the show from the home office today. We got four inches of snow here
00:02:08.960 in Nashville. So once again, that's brought upon the apocalypse as it usually does. We won't be able
00:02:13.680 to use these roads for probably three and a half months due to the light dusting we just experienced.
00:02:19.280 But in any event, let's get into it. So three years ago, as BLM rioters torched businesses
00:02:25.240 throughout her state, a little-known woman by the name of Fannie Willis was campaigning to become
00:02:31.040 the district attorney in Fulton County, Georgia. Now, she was running against the incumbent,
00:02:36.100 D.A. Paul Howard, who hadn't faced a serious challenger in more than two decades. Now, in normal times,
00:02:41.500 this would have been a long-shot campaign. But Willis knew that the moral panic after George Floyd's
00:02:46.920 overdose death made district attorneys unpopular all over the country. She was facing a once-in-a-lifetime
00:02:53.760 opportunity to take out Howard. So she went for it. Willis' campaign strategy was pretty simple.
00:03:00.160 She accused Paul Howard of corruption and painted herself as an alternative watch.
00:03:06.820 Funny, Willis spent 17 years employed as a prosecutor by Fulton County District Attorney Paul
00:03:12.180 Howard. Now she faces Howard in Tuesday's runoff. And she's not at all shy about clobbering her former
00:03:18.900 boss when asked about the contest. I think it's a choice, actually, between integrity and corruption,
00:03:25.580 good and bad. I think it's a classic fight. And I think that citizens will have to make a choice.
00:03:32.820 We have a district attorney now that works for his own self-interest, seems to care about the
00:03:39.780 things that benefit him and not the community. I think it's a choice, actually, between integrity
00:03:45.560 and corruption, good and bad, says Fannie Willis. That's an argument that resonated in Fulton County,
00:03:51.060 probably because Paul Howard was indeed corrupt. So later that year, Willis overwhelmingly defeated
00:03:55.660 Howard and became Fulton County's district attorney. The problem for residents of Fulton County,
00:04:01.700 Georgia, is that Willis' entire campaign turned out to be, as is so often the case in political
00:04:06.640 campaigns, a textbook example of the psychological phenomenon known as projection. Fannie Willis,
00:04:13.500 we're now learning, is in fact an order of magnitude more corrupt than Paul Howard. She's
00:04:19.080 not simply accused of skimming a small amount of money from taxpayers or failing to disclose some
00:04:24.260 conflicts of interest. To be clear, Fannie Willis is accused of both of those things, as I'll explain
00:04:29.260 in a moment. But unlike Paul Howard, Fannie Willis is also now accused of something far more serious.
00:04:34.540 She's accused of using taxpayer money to hire her lover, who's a suburban lawyer with zero experience
00:04:41.700 prosecuting RICO cases, to prosecute the former president of the United States on the single most
00:04:47.500 untested, strained application of RICO law that's ever been conceived. In other words, Fannie Willis is
00:04:54.180 so interested in this guy that she's willing to engage in a little election interference for him,
00:05:01.080 allegedly. And she's charging her constituents to do it. These accusations against Willis came
00:05:07.380 in a court filing from Mike Roman, one of the Trump staffers who made the mistake of trying to
00:05:13.240 seat an alternate slate of electors back in 2020. Not that, you know, the law and history matter anymore,
00:05:20.920 but it is worth pointing out that attempting to seat an alternate slate of electors is something
00:05:26.540 that's always been legal in this country. It was legal back in 1960 when John F. Kennedy's campaign
00:05:31.840 did it for good reason. Creating an alternate slate of electors makes sense when a campaign suspects
00:05:38.860 election fraud because they want to give Congress the opportunity to use their electors if the fraud is
00:05:44.160 ultimately discovered. Nothing about the process is scandalous. Nothing about it is new and it's all
00:05:50.600 completely logical. But the idea of alternate electors is apparently illegal now because the
00:05:56.940 orange man is bad and so forth. So Faldon County is prosecuting Roman. And in response, Roman proceeded
00:06:03.780 to blow Fannie Willis's love affair wide open. Watch. Explosive allegations tonight from one of
00:06:11.500 former President Donald Trump's co-defendants right here in Georgia. He has some pretty bold claims
00:06:16.240 about Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis. Atlanta News First anchor Tori Cooper has been
00:06:21.300 digging through that court filing. So Tori, what are they actually claiming here? Well tonight, former Trump
00:06:27.080 campaign staffer Michael Roman and his attorney Ashley Merchant are claiming District Attorney Fannie
00:06:32.940 Willis had an inappropriate and romantic relationship with the top prosecutor in the case,
00:06:38.280 Nathan Wade. In this new court filing obtained by Atlanta News First, Michael Roman and his attorneys
00:06:45.320 are accusing the Fulton County DA Fannie Willis and Special Prosecutor Nathan Wade of having an
00:06:51.400 inappropriate and romantic relationship and that the two benefited from it. The suit claims Willis and
00:06:57.400 Wade took lavish vacations together and that he used part of his salary from the DA's office to travel
00:07:03.280 with Willis. Roman's attorney claims they discovered that the two went on trips together quote outside of
00:07:09.520 court filings. The suit goes on to claim their relationship began before Wade was appointed to
00:07:15.200 the case. They claim Willis also failed to get county approval to appoint Wade as special prosecutor
00:07:21.360 in the case. Roman's attorneys are now asking the court to disqualify both of them from prosecuting
00:07:27.200 the RICO case and to drop all of Roman's charges. Roman's attorneys wouldn't comment any further
00:07:32.960 tonight and Fannie Willis' office told us they will be responding to Roman's suit through proper court
00:07:38.320 filings. Now the news people seem kind of surprised by this accusation, but they really shouldn't be.
00:07:45.200 If they were keeping track, they'd remember that this is not the first time that Fannie Willis has
00:07:49.680 gotten into trouble over a serious conflict of interest. A year ago, a judge in Georgia
00:07:55.840 barred Willis from investigating one of Trump's alleged fraudulent electors, a state senator named
00:08:00.560 Burt Jones. Why did she get barred from that? Well, because Fannie Willis hosted a fundraiser for a
00:08:07.120 Democrat running against Jones for his seat. This is something that no serious prosecutor or anybody
00:08:14.160 with an IQ above room temperature would have ever done. To reiterate, Fannie Willis literally raised
00:08:20.400 money for someone who was running against the defendant she was trying to throw in prison.
00:08:26.880 Now I played this clip last year, but it's worth revisiting because of how remarkable it is.
00:08:31.520 Here's the judge who, by the way, judge is not exactly the picture of masculinity, but he's doing his
00:08:37.920 best to dress down Fannie Willis in the most deferential way possible. But even this judge,
00:08:43.040 who's clearly on her side and doesn't want to have to deal with this, even he still has something to
00:08:48.800 say about how egregious this is. Watch. Using the title of your office and having on social media that
00:08:58.640 you as this political office holder are holding a fundraiser for the opponent of someone that this
00:09:06.080 political office is investigating. I don't know that it's an actual conflict, but I use that phrase,
00:09:14.480 what were you thinking, where the prosecutor thought I could prosecute the co-defendant of someone I
00:09:19.520 defended. It's a what are you thinking moment. The optics are horrific. If you are trying to
00:09:28.160 have the public believe that this is a nonpartisan, driven by the facts,
00:09:34.560 I'm not here to critique decisions. The decision was made, but if we are trying to maintain confidence
00:09:40.960 that this investigation is pursuing facts in a nonpartisan sense, no matter who the district
00:09:46.240 attorney is, we follow the evidence where it goes and ignore the fact that I hosted a fundraiser for the
00:09:51.760 proponent of someone I've just named the target. That strikes me as problematic.
00:09:58.080 So, like I said, the judge doesn't exactly lay the hammer down. He could have been
00:10:04.000 a lot more forthright, shall we say. But in his own wishy-washy way, even he is shocked by her
00:10:10.240 behavior. And this is the moment that Willis should have been disqualified from prosecuting any of these
00:10:15.680 Trump criminal cases. Frankly, she should have been investigated by the state bar and maybe suspended
00:10:20.400 from practicing law. It was that bad. But she wasn't. She got this milquetoast effeminate scolding
00:10:28.080 and she was allowed to continue making a complete mockery of the judicial system. And that's exactly
00:10:33.360 what she's done. To be clear, yes, Mike Roman's accusations against Fannie Willis are unproven as of
00:10:41.440 now. But they were made public last week and Willis remained silent at the time. This is the kind of thing
00:10:48.240 that you'd think a prosecutor would immediately deny. I mean, if it's not true, then there's no
00:10:54.320 reason to not come out and say, that's not true. That's totally made up. You're insane.
00:10:58.480 But she didn't say that. Instead, Willis waited until Sunday to address Roman's accusations. And
00:11:04.400 she chose to deliver her remarks addressing this claim of a major scandal. She chose to address it
00:11:11.520 not in front of the press, who could have asked her some follow-up questions. Not that the press
00:11:16.000 necessarily would have even done that. But instead, she chose to address it in front of a sympathetic
00:11:20.480 audience at a black church in Atlanta. At no point in her speech, which lasted more than 30 minutes,
00:11:26.400 and we'll look at a few clips of it. At no point did Willis deny the accusations against her,
00:11:32.240 which is effectively the same as admitting that they're true. Instead,
00:11:38.480 she launched into maybe the single most brazen attempt to play the race card in the history of
00:11:43.600 this country. I mean, this is one of the worst. I know that's saying something. This is somehow
00:11:46.880 even worse than Claudine Gay saying you're racist if you care about plagiarism. It's even more
00:11:52.400 preposterous than Marion Barry, the former DC mayor, implying that you hate black people if you're upset that
00:11:58.400 he's on camera buying crack in hotel rooms. Somehow it's even more obnoxious and egregious than any of that.
00:12:06.560 Just watch and marvel at this.
00:12:10.000 But dear God, are you listening? Why does Commissioner Thorne and so many others question my decision in
00:12:18.480 a special counsel? Lord, your flawed, hard-headed, and imperfect child, I'm a little confused. I appointed
00:12:26.960 three special counsel as is my right to do, paid them all the same hourly rate. They only attacked one.
00:12:34.720 I hired one white woman, a good personal friend and great lawyer. A superstar, I tell you. I hired one
00:12:46.480 white man, brilliant, my friend, and a great lawyer. And I hired one black man, another superstar, a great friend,
00:12:57.360 and a great lawyer. Oh, Lord, they gonna be mad when I call them out on this nonsense. First thing they say,
00:13:08.000 oh, she gonna play the race card now. But no, God, isn't it them who's playing the race card when they only question one?
00:13:16.160 This is the kind of race card gambit that you very rarely see. This is like trying to shoot the moon.
00:13:26.720 Here you have the person who's playing the race card trying to imply that you're playing the race card
00:13:31.200 by noticing that she's playing the race card. So she's playing, to mix our card game analogy,
00:13:37.760 she's playing kind of the reverse racism UNO card. It's astonishing to watch, mainly because it makes
00:13:44.240 absolutely no sense whatsoever. The sheer incoherence is incredible to behold. Her argument appears to be
00:13:51.840 that she hired three special prosecutors, and two of them are white, and everybody's upset about the black
00:13:58.400 guy. So clearly, everybody is racist. But she's just not going to mention the accusation that she's
00:14:05.120 having sex with the black guy. Like, that's the thing that makes the black guy notable over the
00:14:10.400 white guys. She's not having sex with the white guys. She's having sex with the black guy. And she's
00:14:14.720 the one who chose the black guy to have sex with me. If anyone's guilty of discrimination, it's like,
00:14:18.880 she's the one who chose to have the affair with that guy, not the other guys. And that's the issue here.
00:14:23.440 But, you know, all of that is completely immaterial, according to Fannie Willis.
00:14:27.040 She's also not going to talk about, you know, how this job has made this special prosecutor
00:14:33.600 hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayer money, money that he has reportedly used to take Fannie
00:14:39.600 Willis on vacations to the Caribbean and Napa Valley. It's hard to believe, but somehow Willis has managed
00:14:46.080 to, with this scandal and her response to it, she's managed to discredit a prosecution that nobody ever took
00:14:54.840 seriously to begin with. She has managed to divide by zero. She has removed credibility from something that had
00:15:02.840 none to begin with. I mean, nobody ever seriously believed that the brilliant legal scholars working in the
00:15:08.960 government in Fulton County, Georgia, were going to be able to prosecute a RICO case against the presidential
00:15:13.940 frontrunner for the crime of challenging election results. Everyone knew it would be a disaster. But even given those low
00:15:20.620 expectations, Willis has managed to impressively tank her case even further. And by the end of this, you know,
00:15:28.860 the prosecutors might be the ones going to jail, or they should be. But Willis appears to be too stupid
00:15:35.180 to realize that, at least as of now. So she just kept on talking. Listen.
00:15:41.420 You cannot expect black women to be perfect and save the world. The Lord is completing us. We are not perfect.
00:15:52.180 We need your prayers. We need to be allowed to stumble. We need grace. With that kind of support, we will move
00:16:01.260 mountains and do Jesus' will. Stumbling all the way.
00:16:08.220 Now, put aside the implication that this is the, that it's the will of God to have Donald Trump
00:16:13.160 arrested. She says, quote, you cannot expect black women to be perfect and save the world.
00:16:20.340 But of course, nobody expects or is asking for either of those things. And what you hear here,
00:16:28.320 this is one of the most bizarre fantasies on the left, which is that black women are somehow
00:16:34.960 especially persecuted, while also being especially gifted and courageous and heroic.
00:16:42.740 But the reality, of course, is that black women are not persecuted at all. In fact, you know,
00:16:48.640 they're among the least persecuted and oppressed people in the world, in the history of the world.
00:16:53.200 In fact, they're given preferential treatment in virtually every aspect of American life, in the media,
00:16:58.360 corporate hiring, college admissions. The intersectional math, the victim hierarchy works
00:17:06.720 wildly in their favor. Willis got, you know, a million positive profiles in the media simply for being
00:17:14.140 a black woman who's prosecuting Donald Trump. And everybody knows this, which is why people like Willis
00:17:20.320 constantly have to remind us that they're victims. So the whole speech went on like this. A few
00:17:25.240 minutes later, after some more self-pity, Fannie Willis reiterated that God wants her to prosecute
00:17:30.740 the presidential frontrunner. She kind of sneaks that in every now and then. And then she goes back
00:17:36.000 to self-pity. Listen.
00:17:37.420 I'm here to tell you something. And it may make some of y'all a little uncomfortable.
00:17:46.720 God's using ordinary people to do extraordinary things. I come real regular. In fact, when I meet
00:17:57.320 people, that's what they say. Real regular. You don't have no errors about yourself.
00:18:02.280 And I say, well, how can I? I come from regular folk. I ain't got no pedigree. I'm not a member
00:18:15.160 of any of those elite organizations. And one more thing. I'm as flawed as they come.
00:18:21.000 But there is something special about me. It's my willingness to love people. I love people
00:18:31.540 of every political party. Different viewpoints. Different races. Different sexuality. And one
00:18:41.560 thing you will come to learn about me is I make sure everyone else is good. And sometimes I'm not.
00:18:47.700 Fannie Willis is a great person, says Fannie Willis. She's also really humble and she's
00:18:56.840 grounded. Oh, and she's carrying on God's plan to take out the political enemies of the Democratic
00:19:03.300 Party. Any questions? Well, no. Of course there's no questions. She deliberately addressed this in a
00:19:11.820 venue where there are no questions allowed. In fact, she went to a venue where people literally shout
00:19:16.760 amen. That's where she decided to go to talk about this major scandal. Now, it's worth pausing for a
00:19:21.820 moment just to emphasize that Willis is not an exception on the left. You know, she's not the
00:19:30.960 only prominent leftist to make a mockery of Christianity like this. Remember, it was the
00:19:35.640 governor of New York who went to a church and told Christian worshipers that, quote, God wants you to be
00:19:41.320 vaccinated. And now we have Fannie Willis telling us that God wants to incarcerate the GOP presidential
00:19:47.280 frontrunner. And the enemies of the faith always do this. They can't help themselves. They desperately
00:19:53.700 want to use Christian beliefs to advance their cause, even as they hate Christians. And, you know,
00:20:01.780 every time it comes off as hammy and laughable and incredibly cynical and transparent. They think
00:20:11.460 that if they bastardize Christianity through politics, they can use the faith to control
00:20:16.420 Christians. Fannie Willis knows she has no defense for what she's done. But instead of taking ownership
00:20:22.120 for it, which is what Christians would tell you to do, yes, as Christians, we believe no human being
00:20:29.520 is perfect. We believe in mercy. We believe in forgiveness. But we also know that there's no
00:20:36.140 forgiveness without repentance. And we're not hearing any repentance from her. Far from it.
00:20:45.520 And by the way, even if we do forgive someone as a Christian for doing something, let's say,
00:20:50.980 engaging in a political scandal, even if you forgive them, which would require repentance,
00:20:56.360 which would require an admission of guilt, repentance, that doesn't mean that you forget
00:21:00.360 about it and then say, oh, yeah, they're still qualified to, you know, be a DA prosecuting a
00:21:05.060 former president. Of course not. So she's trying to invoke Christianity while understanding nothing
00:21:13.200 about it. I mean, it's doubtful she's ever opened a Bible in her entire life. Right? She doesn't
00:21:18.560 know. She probably couldn't, like, list the gospel. She probably thinks that Pontius Pilate was,
00:21:24.120 like, an airline captain. Okay? And for what it's worth, along with trying to invoke the Bible,
00:21:30.460 she also invoked history that she doesn't understand as well. Towards the end of her
00:21:33.720 speech, she, for good measure, compared herself to Martin Luther King Jr. Watch.
00:21:39.720 See, Dr. King was an extremely special, brilliant, godly man. But he was just a man. And his journey
00:21:52.760 was full of mistakes, pitfalls, pain, and ugliness. Despite all of that, he overcame those things,
00:22:03.160 and he changed the entire world. See, I know we are at a time of history when they want to throw away
00:22:12.520 books and not talk about history. Some of y'all may have forgotten when Dr. King was alive, he was
00:22:20.440 attacked for his stance on the Vietnam War. Some of y'all might have forgotten that scandal the FBI
00:22:26.440 tried to do on personal indiscretions they made. Some of y'all forgot that. But now that same FBI
00:22:35.720 will take a day off to celebrate Dr. King, because my words said he will make him your footstool.
00:22:45.400 Ah, yes. MLK made mistakes, just like Fannie Willis. Of course, MLK's quote-unquote mistakes
00:22:52.920 included being a communist and adulterer and allegedly watching and laughing as a woman was
00:22:57.720 raped. That's the mistakes that she's referring to. Maybe what Fannie Willis is trying to tell us
00:23:03.240 something here. Maybe there are more shoes to drop. I don't know. Maybe the FBI is going to come after
00:23:08.600 her too. Somehow that seems unlikely, given that in this comparison, it's Fannie Willis doing exactly
00:23:14.200 what the FBI wants her to do by trying to take out Donald Trump. But it's not worth thinking too
00:23:20.040 deeply about anything Fannie Willis said, because there's really no meaning in any of it. It's all
00:23:25.800 just misdirection. So we're left with the substance of the accusations against Fannie Willis, which she
00:23:33.620 effectively admitted are true in her remarks on Sunday. You know, when someone accuses you of
00:23:39.620 something and you don't deny it, and instead you say, hey, nobody's perfect. Well, like, that's as close
00:23:43.480 you can come to admitting it without admitting it. And what this means is that the Fulton County
00:23:47.260 prosecution of Donald Trump isn't just politically motivated. It's not just completely meritless on
00:23:51.840 the law. We knew that already. What's new is that this prosecution, which again is the prosecution of
00:23:59.060 the leading candidate for the president of the United States, is also motivated by a corrupt prosecutor's
00:24:04.640 desire to shower her boyfriend with vacations to the Caribbean and Napa Valley, and also shower herself
00:24:10.580 with those things by extension. And that's what these people mean when they say that they're
00:24:15.480 defending democracy. This is what they mean when they accuse you of racism, when they invoke MLK
00:24:21.880 in the Bible. They don't understand or believe anything they're saying. And that's been obvious
00:24:27.480 to anyone who's been paying attention for years. And now, thanks to yesterday's performance by
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00:27:19.280 and so that was the attack launched on Vivek. Now, as you might expect, there's been a lot of
00:27:26.260 discussion about this, a lot of consternation, a lot of controversy. And, you know, as for Trump
00:27:35.140 going after Vivek, I don't really care about that. It's politics. You know, I like Vivek. I agree with
00:27:42.280 much of what he says and much of what he plans to do, as I've been clear about this whole time.
00:27:46.740 But when I hear him getting attacked by a political opponent, does that offend me? No,
00:27:55.500 this is politics. This is what you do in politics. You try to beat the other guy, you go after him.
00:28:00.700 Now, Vivek has chosen a campaign, a campaign strategy where he just never criticizes Trump
00:28:05.980 ever under any circumstance. And that's his strategy. He's obviously doing it because he
00:28:11.700 thinks it'll be successful. We'll see if it plays out. I mean, I tend to be extremely skeptical of
00:28:17.380 a strategy like that. And that doesn't mean that you have to obsessively attack Trump. It doesn't
00:28:21.980 mean that you have to attack him on the left's terms, using the left's language, which obviously
00:28:25.400 you shouldn't do. But if you're running against the guy, you got to criticize him. And you got to
00:28:29.540 go at, you have to criticize him directly. Like, you have to explain, if you want to beat him,
00:28:34.500 you have to explain why he shouldn't be the guy who wins and you should be.
00:28:38.660 Again, it's politics. And if anyone's offended by that on either side, you're just, it's silly.
00:28:47.520 Now, and if you thought that Trump would permanently remain on friendly terms with his political
00:28:55.640 opponent, well, then I don't know what to say to you. I mean, naive is a word that is not strong
00:29:01.560 enough to describe you in that case. But here's what I will say, though. You know, I noticed on social
00:29:07.100 media, as many people noticed, that lots of previous fans of Vivek suddenly, in that moment,
00:29:15.380 as soon as Trump gave his marching orders, turned on him. Like, lots of people who thought that Vivek
00:29:21.180 was great suddenly decided that he's awful. And if you're one of those people, that says a lot more
00:29:27.880 about you than it does about either of those guys. You know, if you're prepared to actually
00:29:33.060 change your opinion about someone or something in a split second, switching on a dime because a
00:29:40.260 politician told you to, then that's truly pathetic. Now, to be clear, I'm not saying that all Trump
00:29:48.300 supporters made this switch. In fact, from what I can tell, just, you know, a casual look on social
00:29:55.420 media, from what I could see, would show that most Trump supporters have been saying, hey, I still
00:30:00.680 like Vivek. I'm voting for Trump, but I still like Vivek. I've seen a lot of that. And that's, and that
00:30:06.640 is a perfectly reasonable way of responding. But I have seen some who, I mean, literally in the span of
00:30:15.300 like an hour, went from loving the guy to hating him. And there has also been that. That is a surrendering
00:30:22.880 of your, of your critical thinking capacity. You know, that is like outsourcing it to someone else,
00:30:29.260 which is never a good idea, no matter who that other person is. So that doesn't mean that your
00:30:33.740 opinion of Vivek can't change, right? Your opinion of any politician should actually change depending
00:30:39.500 on circumstance. It depends on like what they're doing and saying. So you should be, you should be
00:30:43.100 prepared to change your opinion of any politician. But a sudden switch from he's great to he's
00:30:50.740 horrible. He's not one of us. He's a traitor. Like just like that is really impossible to defend.
00:30:59.260 All right. Speaking of impossible to defend, Nikki Haley spoke at a virtual event in Iowa.
00:31:05.460 She's not actually in Iowa, as far as I know, but she called into some kind of virtual town hall type
00:31:11.440 of thing. And, um, uh, you know, she, she's going to lose anyway in Iowa. So it doesn't matter. Um,
00:31:19.840 you know, lose Iowa and the primary, I mean, she's going to lose both. But in any case, there was one
00:31:24.400 noteworthy moment. Someone asked Haley a question that she should have been prepared to answer. And
00:31:30.360 she should have been prepared to answer because Trump was famously asked the same question,
00:31:35.480 infamously asked the same question by Megan Kelly, not all that long ago. Also, it's a version of one
00:31:42.120 of the most famous questions of this century, especially if you're on the right, which Nikki
00:31:48.180 Haley supposedly is. So it's a question that you should at least have an answer for, um, for those
00:31:56.560 reasons. And also because most importantly, because it's just, it's a really easy question. And it's like
00:32:00.620 the easiest question in the world to answer. And the question is, can a man become a woman? Which of
00:32:05.280 course is an offshoot of what is a woman? And let's hear how, uh, Haley handled that.
00:32:11.540 Go to our last question. Uh, John, John, you're live from Dubuque.
00:32:19.000 Hi, hi ambassador. Um, hi John. A lot of the stuff that Trump does,
00:32:25.980 you know, and says really bothers me and I'm concerned about it. You know, one thing I saw him
00:32:31.660 do was he said that, uh, you know, he had trouble answering the question, could a man become a
00:32:38.000 woman? And I'm just wondering what, what your response to that question is. Now, can a man
00:32:42.960 become a woman? There's been a lot that's been talked about when it comes to, um, all of these
00:32:47.960 roles and all of these issues. I strongly believe that we should not allow any gender change surgeries
00:32:56.500 to anyone before the age of 18 period. We kids now can't get a tattoo until they're 18. We shouldn't
00:33:06.260 have them permanently change their body until they're 18. And that includes puberty blockers.
00:33:11.300 That includes any sort of hormones that would do that after the age of 18.
00:33:16.480 We want to make sure people can live any way they want to live. I don't think government needs to be
00:33:24.020 in control of anybody's life. You go live the way you want to live. You should be free to live the way
00:33:28.860 you want to live. And every, and government and everybody else should stay out of your way.
00:33:33.020 But prior to 18, it is an important time, especially when you're going through your teenage years that
00:33:39.520 can be confusing. I don't think we should ever in any way have any sort of permanent changes,
00:33:45.660 but after 18, I'm not going to say anything. I think that, you know, you always have to believe
00:33:50.940 in freedom and allowing people to live the life the way they want to live. And if that's how they
00:33:54.660 choose, then, you know, I don't think government should have any say in that.
00:33:59.580 Now I'll say the same thing, uh, on this, that I said, when Trump dropped the ball on this question,
00:34:04.460 you know, when somebody asks, can a man become a woman? It's okay to give a long answer and elaborate,
00:34:13.020 but the first word in your answer should be no. Now, if the first word is hell, because the second
00:34:22.440 word is no, well, that's fine too. But the first thing you should be able to do is definitively and
00:34:28.620 with no equivocation declare that a man is not a woman and can never become one. It's not a hard
00:34:36.340 question. It's not a trick question. It's not a difficult or confusing question.
00:34:42.860 And your ability to answer the question does matter a lot. If you cannot speak honestly about
00:34:49.840 an issue as simple and clear as this, if you are so cowed and intimidated, um, that you will pretend
00:34:57.480 not to understand basic biological realities. If you are this beholden to the radical LGBT lobby,
00:35:02.680 that means you can't be trusted as a leader. I mean, I mean, like, like take two people, right?
00:35:07.640 Just like two, two generic, you know, nothing about either of them. They're both running for
00:35:14.680 political office. And one is asked if a man can become a woman and immediately, immediately answers
00:35:20.580 no. The other is asked the same question, then goes off on a, on some lengthy tangent and doesn't
00:35:25.680 answer the question at all. And now you have to decide which you will trust to be a clear,
00:35:32.780 honest leader who acts with clarity and purpose, regardless of the political lens. And you only
00:35:37.060 have that to go on. Who are you going to choose based on that performance? Certainly not Nikki Haley,
00:35:44.640 you know, and it's no surprise that Nikki Haley fails this test and she fails it even though,
00:35:51.320 you know, even while trying to present herself as a, uh, as this like no nonsense girl power,
00:35:58.320 you know, she's going to go in there and break up the good old boys club and she's going to tell
00:36:03.100 like it is and all that kind of stuff. That's how she presents herself. And yet she gets this basic,
00:36:09.580 a basic question that by the way, as a woman, she should be particularly ready to answer. Not because
00:36:15.280 only women can know the answer, but because she should be especially, um, eager to, you know,
00:36:24.880 defend the, the, the dignity of womanhood, which as we know, the trans agenda is constantly,
00:36:34.100 you know, waging an assault on. So she's a, nothing but a fraud, no big surprise there, I suppose.
00:36:41.480 Moving on to this Fox news says the federal aviation administration is actively recruiting
00:36:47.740 workers who suffer severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, and other mental and
00:36:52.680 physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's
00:36:58.280 website. The FAA's website states targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the
00:37:03.480 federal government as a matter of policy has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and
00:37:07.900 hiring. They include hearing, vision, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis,
00:37:13.620 epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability, and dwarfism. The initiative is part
00:37:19.100 of the FAA's diversity and inclusion hiring plan, which says diversity is integral to achieving FAA's
00:37:24.440 mission of ensuring safe and efficient travel across our nation and beyond. The FAA's website shows the
00:37:30.900 agency's guidelines on diversity hiring were last updated on March 23rd, 2022. So this is part of
00:37:41.600 their diversity efforts is to get in people with disabilities. Now, in fairness, just so that we
00:37:47.680 don't engage in any clickbait hyperbole here, this doesn't mean that United Airlines or Southwest is going
00:37:56.100 to go and hire a blind, mentally disabled dwarf to be a commercial pilot. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if we
00:38:05.580 get to that point, but that's not what this means, at least not yet. There are a lot of other jobs in the
00:38:11.660 airline industry generally, a lot of other jobs in the FAA. And people who defend this policy or any DEI policy
00:38:18.200 will argue that, you know, they still have the same hiring standards in place that they always have. So if they hire
00:38:24.200 somebody with a physical disability or a psychiatric problem, that person is still going to have to pass
00:38:29.060 all the same tests and demonstrate his fitness in the same way as anybody else, which means that if they
00:38:33.500 get the job, then they're qualified. And that's the claim, right? That's the DEI defense. And in theory,
00:38:41.980 that could be true in some cases. Like if there's a job filing paperwork or whatever at the FAA office,
00:38:50.980 there's no reason why somebody who's hearing impaired couldn't be perfectly qualified to do
00:38:57.260 that job. So in theory, someone who happens to fulfill a DEI quota doesn't need to be unqualified
00:39:03.920 in theory. But if that's all that was happening, right, if they were just letting anybody apply and
00:39:12.200 then hiring the best of that crop, then you wouldn't need DEI because that was already the case.
00:39:20.980 Okay. But like, I'm pretty sure that prior to this DEI standard being put up on the website or
00:39:28.460 updated in 2022, prior to that, you know, you could be a hearing impaired person and get a job filing
00:39:36.680 paperwork at the FAA or whatever. I mean, that was already the case. So when you add in DEI,
00:39:44.560 you're adding in something extra. And what are you adding in? Well, the moment you say,
00:39:50.600 we need to get more of this sort of person into these positions, right? You're looking at a
00:39:56.720 particular demographic, whether it's disabled, whether it's black people, whether it's women,
00:40:02.720 and you're looking at demographics and saying, we need more of them specifically. You're not saying,
00:40:07.220 we need more qualified people. You're saying, we need more of those people. And even if you're
00:40:12.560 saying, we need the most qualified of those people into this position, even if that's what you're
00:40:16.980 saying, which is, which, which even that is not actually like, that would be better. That would
00:40:20.860 still be terrible. That would be better than what they're actually doing. Um, but the moment you do
00:40:27.780 that, then you are going to end up lowering standards because with the current standards,
00:40:33.440 right? Before DEI, whatever the standards were, you had however many people you had in whatever
00:40:40.960 demographic, right? And if you want more of that demographic, the standards are going to get
00:40:45.840 lowered. That, that, because, because with the standards up here, you had, you know, standards were
00:40:52.180 up here. You had X number of people in your favorite demographic. So if you want to get even
00:40:58.000 more, then that means the standards are going down here. And it's insane. It's insane on many levels.
00:41:03.760 It's especially insane because, um, to begin with, if you're looking at the airline industry and you say,
00:41:11.080 well, we don't, we have a minority of women, or we have a minority of black people, or we have a minority
00:41:15.180 of disabled people. That's not a problem. Like, why is that a problem? If the ranks are full of people
00:41:24.360 who are qualified and few of the qualified people happen to be female or black or whatever, who cares?
00:41:32.080 It doesn't matter. It doesn't make a difference. It's not a problem that needs to be solved.
00:41:38.820 As long as you're bringing in the most qualified people, whatever the demographic makeup happens to
00:41:43.580 be at the end of that, doesn't matter. It's not a problem. Um, and so, so if, if, if, if no one is
00:41:52.940 black that ends up in that, um, that, that, that, you know, ends up in that camp, not a problem.
00:42:00.480 If you end up with, everyone is black, also not a problem. As long as race is not taken into account
00:42:06.520 at all, and you're just hiring the best people. But again, that's not how it goes. And, uh, and here's
00:42:11.840 the CEO of United making it clear how, uh, it really works. Listen. How is diversity and diversity
00:42:18.120 targets working into the Aviate Academy? We have committed that 50% of the class of, of the classes
00:42:24.620 will be women or people of color. Uh, today, only 19% of our pilots at United Airlines are women or
00:42:30.560 people of color. And by the way, from all the data I've seen, that's the highest of any airline in the
00:42:34.840 country. White males don't just dominate in the cockpits. Also in the C-suite at United Airlines.
00:42:39.580 Well, look, at United, I'm proud of the diversity that we actually have in our, our C-suite. I think
00:42:43.660 if you look around corporate America. Correct me if I'm saying, though, so I, this is just based
00:42:46.900 off your website, the people you list as executives, but out of 11 people, three are women. I believe
00:42:50.780 one is a person of color. Um, that's correct. Um, but, you know, in corporate America, I think,
00:42:56.660 you know, that's a low bar. How do you raise your own bar? Well, a lot of this is, you know,
00:43:01.400 focusing on it. We have, uh, programs to, one of the things we do is for every job when we're
00:43:06.880 doing an interview or require women and people of color to be involved in the interview process,
00:43:12.460 bringing people in early in their careers, um, as well, uh, and giving them those opportunities.
00:43:18.080 Yeah. You know, you got to get those white males out of there, right? You know, the,
00:43:22.180 the, the, the white males, you know, the, the people that, um, have made air travel into the
00:43:28.320 safest form of travel that's ever existed. The form of travel where you're 35,000 feet in the air
00:43:35.680 and going 400 miles an hour, and that's the safest. Um, so, and the people who predominantly
00:43:44.460 who achieved that were white males. And so how do we thank them? Let's get them out of it. And when
00:43:49.940 I say that the people who predominantly achieved that are white males, I, I'm not making that up.
00:43:54.480 That's the proponents of DEI are the first to say that. Like they're the ones who are going to look
00:43:59.180 at and say, well, historically it's been a white male dominated field. Okay. So you're, you're the
00:44:04.000 one saying that. Okay. Well also historically, what has this field achieved? Those white males who
00:44:11.660 were dominating the field, were they, were they doing poorly? Was there an issue? Was there a
00:44:15.680 problem? Were they screwing up? No. The people who not only invented human flight to begin with,
00:44:24.480 uh, were white males. And then the people who, even according to the DEI proponents who made it
00:44:31.020 unbelievably safe, were also predominantly white males. So yeah, we got to get them out. Got to get
00:44:38.440 those numbers down. This is what we're doing. We're looking at, we're saying, okay, here's, here's a,
00:44:46.020 here's an industry that's doing fantastically well, uh, has achieved feats, uh, unknown to mankind.
00:44:56.840 What's the demographic predominantly responsible for that? Let's single them out and then try to get
00:45:03.740 rid of them. Um, and that's what they're doing now. It is, uh, it is suicide. Well, I was going to say
00:45:13.480 it's suicidal, but it's not really because the CEO of United probably isn't even flying. Like he's
00:45:18.060 probably flying private. You know, he's not back in coach on a United flight. Um, so it's not suicidal
00:45:24.040 for him. I bet you, he wants to make sure that people fly in his planes that he's on are the most
00:45:29.780 qualified. Uh, so no, it's not suicidal really, uh, as far as it's homicidal actually is what it is.
00:45:35.860 All right. Finally, um, a few days ago, we talked about Lil Nas X and the blasphemous sacrilegious
00:45:45.260 promo campaign for his upcoming new single called Jay Christ. And I pointed out how the images of him
00:45:51.500 on a cross and, and, uh, images of him taking shots of communion wine, et cetera, are indeed sacrilegious
00:45:58.960 and disgusting. But, you know, on top of that, the whole thing is stale and played out. Pop stars have
00:46:04.580 been trying to get attention by blaspheming Christianity for decades. Um, there's nothing
00:46:10.260 rebellious or interesting about it. And, um, and now the song is out and I just want to play a quick
00:46:20.080 clip because the song that this is all supposed to promote, I think, I think it, uh, it kind of
00:46:25.820 proves a point, but here's the song. Listen.
00:46:27.500 Yeah.
00:46:28.500 Yeah.
00:46:29.500 Bust down chain. That was 30 bits. Bust down wrist. That's my bust down 30 inch. Walk up
00:46:35.500 in the club, popping like it was double mint. Looking for a 10. We only settle when the settlements.
00:46:41.500 Uh, uh, uh, let them slide. Yeah. That wasn't quiet. Yeah. Now I'm, I'm a ride. Yeah. I'm
00:46:47.240 gonna take it high. Yeah. Okay. Let them slide. Yeah. That wasn't quiet. Yeah. Tell them,
00:46:52.240 come on side, baby. We ain't tryna hide.
00:46:54.240 I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. I'm brave. You know when I'm back. It's all for tape. You
00:47:00.240 know that I'm ready for everything. You know I play. It's all for chaos.
00:47:06.240 Okay. So that's about enough of that. And, uh, look again, sacrilegious, gross, uh, the
00:47:21.640 guy's a degenerate creep. Uh, all of that is true, but the music itself, the music is, is
00:47:30.380 so incredibly bland and empty and vacuous that you, you can't even really be offended
00:47:37.160 by it. Even though it is objectively offensive, it's, you can't be offended because it's so,
00:47:43.940 it's just nothing. Um, and you listen to the, to the lyrics, but bust down chain. That was
00:47:53.380 30 bands, bust down wrist, match my bust down 30 inch, uh, walk up in the club, pop and like it
00:48:02.560 was double mint looking for a 10. We only, we only settle when it's settlements. Now I'm on
00:48:09.440 Mariah. I'm finna take a, take it higher. Okay. This is not, it's not anything. Like these are not,
00:48:17.740 this, this, these are not even thoughts. Um, it doesn't mean anything. And the words don't have
00:48:25.960 any relation to the images on screen. Like this guy's too stupid and too dead inside to actually
00:48:30.680 write a song with a sacrilegious message. So he can communicate the sacrilegious stuff through the
00:48:37.220 images in the music video. That's easy enough to do. And I'm sure if he, if he, if he could,
00:48:42.920 he would love to write a song that is also sacrilegious, but he can't even do that because he's
00:48:47.720 too stupid. He has the IQ of a grasshopper and he can't figure that out. So, um, you know what I
00:48:54.360 always want to ask these people? Uh, here's my question. Like when you were writing this song
00:49:00.100 and I know that Lil Nas X is such a moron that he, he, he couldn't even write this song himself.
00:49:05.680 I'm sure it has 47 writers, but pretending that he wrote it all by himself, I would ask when you
00:49:12.980 were writing it, what were you feeling, right? Like what emotion were you trying to convey?
00:49:22.040 Okay. The most basic, most entry-level thing that a piece of art should be able to do is convey at
00:49:29.360 least the emotion of the artist. Great art can do a whole lot more than just conveying an emotion, but,
00:49:37.220 um, but at the very least I should be able to listen to your song or read your poem or look at
00:49:44.420 your painting or, or whatever. And, and, and, and I should be able to tell that when you composed
00:49:50.600 this piece of art, you were feeling sad or happy or forlorn or anxious, or, um, you were having
00:49:57.120 feelings of, of awe, feelings of longing, feelings of love, feelings of hatred, maybe all of these things
00:50:04.800 together. Art at a minimum should convey human emotion. It should at least be able to do that.
00:50:12.800 But this crap, I mean, this stuff that passes for music, it doesn't even do that. There's no emotion
00:50:19.860 in it. There's, there's no feeling, there's no thought. So often, I guess my point is that, uh,
00:50:28.060 very often we'll look at this kind of music and we will point out, I will point out that it's
00:50:32.880 incoherent. There's no message. There's no, uh, there's nothing. There's no, there's no kind of
00:50:38.900 story being told. It's just a bunch of words. And that's true. But even below that, it's like,
00:50:48.000 it's worse than that because on top of being intellectually incoherent, it's also emotionally
00:50:52.720 incoherent. It would be possible. And in fact, um, this is something that, that, that even kind
00:51:02.160 of crappy pop music used to be able to do. You go back to like the nineties when I was growing up
00:51:06.780 and, uh, some of the bands and pop stars at the time. Yeah. If you went back and look at the lyrics,
00:51:13.640 they're, they're kind of like incoherent or very, or, or not kind of, in some cases, very
00:51:18.640 incoherent, but there's a, there's a, there's at least like a feeling that's that, that comes
00:51:23.460 out of it. And so you feel a certain way and you can tell that the, the artist is trying to convey,
00:51:28.500 trying to elicit that emotion. We don't even have that anymore. Now there's, there's, there's nothing
00:51:35.100 in this stuff at all. There's nothing there emotionally, intellectually, there's no message.
00:51:40.860 There's no feeling. There's no heart of any kind in any of it. It's, it's just totally empty,
00:51:47.520 bland, vacuous. Um, it's not, which means it's not music. Actually, it really isn't like only on
00:51:56.800 a very technical, on a very technical level, it's music. Uh, maybe in the same way that,
00:52:03.820 you know, you could probably find my probably, I mean, there, there are plenty of AI is out there
00:52:10.920 and, and chatbots and so on that could write a poem. Right. And, and really easy to find one
00:52:18.320 that could do that. That's, that would be, um, because on a technical level, you know, you got
00:52:23.120 stanzas, you got the structure of a poem. And so, yeah, an AI can compose one. Um, but it's not really
00:52:31.280 poetry because there's no, it's not human. There's no, there's no poet there, right? You can't really,
00:52:38.840 you can't have on a, on a technical level, you can, but you can't have real poetry without a,
00:52:43.960 without a poet. And an AI is not a poet. Um, and I think it's the same thing here. So when we say
00:52:51.100 this is not real music, it's always, and then you always have musicians that, well, no, you don't know
00:52:55.980 anything about music. Technically you've got this and that and you've got the melody and the, yeah,
00:52:59.340 I know all the components are there, but the components that that's missing is any kind of
00:53:05.400 humanity is the component that's really missing is heart of. And if you don't have that in art,
00:53:12.000 then there's, it's not really art. It's just, it's, it's sounds and words strung together to
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00:55:15.540 Another daily cancellation, another viral video that everyone has an opinion about,
00:55:20.160 and most of the opinions are wrong, as usual. And this time, it's a young lady named Brittany
00:55:24.780 Peach, who recently recorded, secretly recorded, and posted a video of herself getting fired from
00:55:30.480 her sales job with a tech company called Cloudflare. Apparently, Brittany, like literally every other
00:55:37.840 employee who's ever been fired from any position ever, disagrees with her termination and feels that
00:55:43.720 she deserves to keep her job. Her employer feels otherwise. And as it usually goes in this sort of
00:55:49.140 situation, her employer's opinion on the matter prevails. After all, when your boss fires you,
00:55:55.820 the decision has already been made. They aren't asking you if you're okay with it, or how you feel
00:56:00.860 about it, or they're not taking a poll on the subject. They're not bringing you in and sitting
00:56:05.260 you down and saying, you know, if you're okay, we're going to let you, if you're okay with it,
00:56:08.840 we're going to fire you. It doesn't go that way. They are informing you that you are fired,
00:56:13.100 and that's it. There's almost certainly nothing you can say when you're getting that unfortunate
00:56:21.300 talk. There's almost certainly nothing you can say to change their mind. The decision has already
00:56:28.160 been made. And so the only thing you can do is decide how you'll handle it. Whether you'll handle
00:56:35.040 it, first of all, with some dignity and class and not start groveling. And also, if you will respond
00:56:44.460 in a way that will increase or decrease your chances of getting another job. This is, you know,
00:56:51.940 it's actually, when you're getting fired, this is a big moment in your career. You know, it might be
00:56:57.380 the end of this current job, but it's a pivotal moment in your career because whether or not you
00:57:05.860 get a better job in the future will hinge in large part on how you respond in this moment,
00:57:13.720 both in the moment and in the moments that come after. Well, unfortunately, Brittany has chosen to
00:57:21.580 respond in a way that's going to hinder her chances of getting another job because she has decided to
00:57:25.100 respond by secretly recording the meeting and posting it to TikTok for sympathy and clout,
00:57:31.480 which will absolutely ensure that every potential employer in the future will be very wary about
00:57:35.860 hiring her. And most will immediately toss her resume in the garbage five seconds after they Google
00:57:41.040 her name, which they will all do. But even though Brittany has decided to implode her career on camera
00:57:47.140 for all to see, she's still being cheered by the vast majority of the peanut gallery. They're very
00:57:52.200 impressed with the video and her performance in it. So before we go any further, we should probably
00:57:57.980 watch some of this video. First, here she is getting the bad news. Listen.
00:58:03.200 We finished our evaluations of 2023 performance. This is where you have not met Cloudflare expectations
00:58:09.440 for performance. We've decided to part ways with you.
00:58:12.560 Yeah, I'm going to stop you right there. So I started August 25th. I've been on a three month
00:58:20.600 ramp. And then it was three weeks of December, and then a week of Christmas. And then here we are.
00:58:30.900 I have had the highest activity amongst my team. Since I've started, I have had three contracts out,
00:58:40.020 done a really great job managing my deals up until the very end that decided not to close last minute.
00:58:46.840 So I don't think that that makes a lot of sense for me in my Cloudflare journey here so far.
00:58:54.360 Also, every single one-on-one I've had with my manager, every conversation I've had with him,
00:58:59.960 he has been giving me nothing but I am doing a great job. I have had great activity. I have really
00:59:06.000 great meetings. I'm picking up the products very quickly. And things have been going really,
00:59:12.340 really well. I make really great relationships with my clients. So I disagree that my performance
00:59:19.720 hasn't been. I haven't met performance expectations when I certainly have just because I haven't closed
00:59:30.240 anything officially. Now we're going to revisit some of that in just a moment.
00:59:37.000 But before we do, we're going to fast forward a few seconds until we get to her employer's
00:59:42.760 explanation, such as it is, for her termination. So here's how they explain it. Listen.
00:59:49.700 Let me carve out the two threads, a ladder of why I'm on this conversation. I'll put that one
00:59:57.820 in the second half and Rosie might be better to explain the process of who is giving this
01:00:03.440 information and the prior piece, which is your feedback and notes about your performance.
01:00:10.840 So we add a little context to that. So just for clarification, you are not being singled out
01:00:16.800 in this. Your peers are also being collectively assessed on performance. This is a collective
01:00:22.440 calibration for Cloudflare. So I just want to clarify that piece. I won't be able to add any
01:00:28.020 kind of specifics on numbers or... Wait, yeah, no. Can you explain for me why Brittany Peach is getting
01:00:32.680 let go? I won't be able to go into specifics for numbers. Wait, why though? I just started. I've been
01:00:41.900 working extremely hard just because I haven't closed anything that has nothing to do with
01:00:47.280 my performance on a three-month ramp with just one month with two major holidays in the middle.
01:00:53.700 I don't think that has anything to do with why I should be let go, if that makes sense. So I really
01:01:00.040 need an answer and an explanation as to why Brittany Peach is getting let go, not why Cloudflare decided to
01:01:06.260 hire too many people and are now actually realizing that they can't afford this many people and they're
01:01:10.660 letting that go. If that's the real answer, I would rather just you tell me that instead of making up
01:01:15.240 some bulls**t and telling me that right before I lose my job from someone that I've never met before.
01:01:21.100 Okay, now as mentioned, this video has been viewed millions of times and most of the comments have
01:01:25.780 been incredibly supportive of Brittany. It's also been picked up by several media outlets who also paint
01:01:32.280 Brittany as the hero of the story. And for the most part, the peanut gallery has agreed that Brittany
01:01:37.520 comported herself very well during this interaction. They say that she was reasonable and
01:01:43.800 well-spoken. They're outraged that Brittany got fired, even though her performance has been great,
01:01:48.000 according to her. They say that she was treated coldly and impersonally, like she was nothing but
01:01:54.200 a faceless cog in the corporate machine. And that's the popular consensus. But again, as is often the
01:02:00.660 case, the popular consensus misses the mark. Mostly misses it anyway. So let's go over a few points.
01:02:06.440 One, yes, it is dehumanizing and demoralizing and depressing, a lot of other D words, to get fired
01:02:13.820 over Zoom by some corporate boss you've never even met. And one who uses phrases like collective
01:02:20.820 calibration. I mean, I got to admit, to hear that at all, but to hear that in the process of getting
01:02:27.460 fired. But we're doing a collective calibration. That's like soul draining. Like you can feel your
01:02:35.120 soul being drained out of your body when you hear stuff like that. And so if you watch this video and
01:02:43.440 you say to yourself, man, I never want to work for a company like Cloudflare. Well, that makes two of us.
01:02:49.900 Right? I'm totally with you. But here's the thing. Brittany did work for a company like Cloudflare.
01:02:58.320 Yes, she's treated like a cog in the corporate machine, but she chose to get a job as a cog in
01:03:03.940 the corporate machine. She was working remotely, apparently, for a tech company with thousands of
01:03:09.060 employees. Like that's as impersonal as you can get. That's the very definition of being a cog in the
01:03:16.280 corporate machine. Getting fired over Zoom by a company like that, it is dehumanizing. But working
01:03:22.660 over Zoom for a company like that is also, one could argue, dehumanizing. It's understandable if
01:03:28.940 you would rather be dehumanized by a paycheck than by a pink slip. But it does make your complaints
01:03:34.880 about the latter a little bit less credible. Two, people are giving her credit for how she handled
01:03:42.160 herself on the call. Well, personally, I found her to be smarmy and condescending, but that's beside the
01:03:47.620 point. The point is that she shouldn't get credit because she was performing for a camera that the other
01:03:53.840 party didn't know was there. Okay? I don't know why people struggle with this. Like, when someone
01:04:00.740 records themselves doing something, it doesn't make sense to give them credit. Oh, they really handled that
01:04:06.360 well. They're recording themselves. They're doing it for you, to impress you. Okay? Like, maybe that's
01:04:12.660 how they would respond in a normal situation if the camera wasn't rolling. But we don't know that.
01:04:17.540 You know, it's not a whole lot different from these TikTok videos you see of somebody like
01:04:20.760 giving money to a homeless man or something and doing something nice for a homeless guy. You say,
01:04:28.000 well, this is what humanity is all about. No, it's not. He's doing it for the camera.
01:04:31.620 Okay? He's only doing it for the camera. It's not even about the charity at all.
01:04:37.840 Do you really not understand that? So, in this case, she filmed it knowing that she would post
01:04:44.680 it to TikTok afterwards. That means that nothing she says on the call can be taken as honest or
01:04:48.780 genuine. Sure, the corporate drone managers firing her, they weren't being authentic or human,
01:04:54.960 but neither was she. Like, they were following the corporate script and she was performing for a
01:05:00.420 TikTok audience. The whole thing was an orgy of inauthenticity. And that decision on her part is
01:05:06.840 one that, again, will haunt her for the rest of her professional life. No employer wants to hire
01:05:12.600 someone who might secretly record them and then use the video to smear them on social media.
01:05:18.280 Even if she was the greatest saleswoman in the world, it still would not be worth the trouble.
01:05:28.700 Okay? But as a saleswoman who didn't make a sale in four months, it's definitely not even close to
01:05:36.820 worth the trouble. Which brings us to point three. Three, the peanut gallery complains, just as Brittany
01:05:42.200 herself complained, that she wasn't given a reason for her dismissal. That's not entirely true.
01:05:47.680 They said it was performance related. She admits that she hasn't closed a sale since she got the
01:05:52.080 job four months ago. She says that that's okay because she manages her meetings well, even though
01:05:57.980 she doesn't convert those meetings into sales. But it's not much of a strain to speculate that her
01:06:03.500 employer doesn't find that reasoning very compelling. Like, they don't give a damn if you're good in
01:06:11.140 meetings or if you get along with your coworkers or even if you work hard. They care about results.
01:06:17.360 And if you aren't getting results, you aren't doing your job. And that's most likely why she was
01:06:22.280 fired. Is it harsh? Is it tough? Is it unkind? Sure, probably, I guess. But that's life. And life has
01:06:32.380 not changed much in this regard. Okay? In pre-industrial times, the only result that mattered was whether you
01:06:39.860 had a good harvest or whether you had a successful hunt. And if you didn't, you died. And that was that.
01:06:48.120 And now the result that matters at your sales job is whether you make sales. If you don't, you die.
01:06:55.720 Metaphorically, in a professional sense, which is at least preferable to the literal sense.
01:06:59.720 But the principle is the same. Now, could the other people on the call have given her more specific
01:07:04.400 information about why she was fired? Yeah, maybe they could have. But there's a reason why employers
01:07:11.100 are vague in these situations. It's because in many cases, if they tell the truth, if they're totally
01:07:16.680 frank, they'll get sued. Employers try to be as vague and general as possible to avoid liability.
01:07:23.940 Hypothetically, so hypothetically, and I don't know anything about this woman. I don't know if this
01:07:28.740 is true. Just hypothetically. If, yeah, she's lagging in sales, but maybe there's other people
01:07:36.440 that are lagging in sales too, and they don't get fired, but they chose to fire her because on top of
01:07:41.000 lagging in sales, she's also just obnoxious and unpleasant, and nobody wants to work with her.
01:07:47.800 Like, hypothetically, if that was the case, well, that's a valid reason for her to be the one to get
01:07:52.840 fired, but they can't say that. You know, especially in these corporate, they're not going to say, well,
01:07:57.240 you're just an obnoxious, unpleasant person. Nobody wants to be around you, so we're getting
01:08:00.520 rid of you. You're not worth the trouble. Like, you're not worth the trouble. They can't say that
01:08:05.040 because then they'll get sued. And so what happened, like, yes, that would be the more human thing,
01:08:13.420 also more helpful. It's a lot more helpful to tell somebody that so they maybe can have some chance
01:08:17.700 of self-improvement. But, you know, the litigious society we live in means that just honesty goes
01:08:24.820 out the window. Humanity goes out the window. And now, guess what? Now that they have to worry about
01:08:29.260 having the conversation recorded and posted to TikTok, they're going to be even more vague and
01:08:34.640 general. So if you thought that that meeting was cold and impersonal, wait until you see how cold and
01:08:40.880 impersonal they will get when the possibility of TikTok infamy is hanging over every meeting of
01:08:47.380 this type. So this hero has just guaranteed that the problem she's exposing will only get a million
01:08:55.320 times worse because of her. Four, finally, you know, it's hard getting fired. Like, it's a hard thing to
01:09:08.820 be fired. I understand that. I've been through it more than once. Humiliation, anger, anxiety,
01:09:16.260 sadness, resentment. Like, a lot of very difficult emotions are balled up into one messy jumble when
01:09:21.960 you get fired. It sucks. In a word, it sucks to get fired. But here's the part that might come as news
01:09:28.880 to many of our Gen Z friends. Just because you're going through something difficult, just because you're
01:09:34.960 feeling bad about something, just because you're suffering a setback, that doesn't mean that you
01:09:39.880 need to make a national scandal out of it. That doesn't mean you need to broadcast it to the world
01:09:43.860 and make yourself into history's most oppressed victim. You're dealing with something that millions
01:09:48.900 of people have been through. Your version of it may be worse than some, but it's not nearly as bad as
01:09:56.340 most. For instance, if you're single and you have no kids and you get fired, your experience is automatically
01:10:03.800 not that bad compared to the many millions of people who've been fired when they have kids that depend on
01:10:09.760 them, right? Now, that doesn't make your firing any less painful, but it does make it a whole lot less
01:10:15.440 noteworthy, okay? And it does mean that sometimes in life, you just have to take your lumps and move on.
01:10:24.000 You just do. And we can't, like, nobody wants to say that anymore. Like, no one wants to say
01:10:32.040 anymore, yeah, that sucks that it happened. Okay. Like, we're all moving on now with our lives and
01:10:39.400 you need to also. It's just, that's it. Yes, we have acknowledged, but it's hard. Okay, we all
01:10:45.660 acknowledge that. We get it. But it's really hard. Yeah, okay. We all, we acknowledge it's a really hard
01:10:51.060 thing, but it happens. And that's it. Like, deal with it. Do you want my pity? Okay, well, you have
01:11:01.200 my pity. And take that and $1.50 and it'll get you a KitKat at a vending machine. Probably not even
01:11:08.160 that with inflation. So anyway, stop looking for pity. Stop looking for victim points. Get a grip.
01:11:14.840 But collect yourself. Move on with your life. It's your only choice. So you might as well
01:11:21.800 take it. Or else, I must say that you, just like our friend Brittany, are today canceled.
01:11:30.540 That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you
01:11:33.640 tomorrow. Godspeed.