The Matt Walsh Show - January 29, 2024


Ep. 1303 - Representative Ilhan Omar Must Be Expelled From Congress And Deported


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A United States congresswoman just delivered a speech entirely in a foreign language where she pledged her loyalty and fidelity to a foreign nation. She should be kicked out of office and deported at a minimum, obviously. Also, the Biden campaign is preparing to enlist Taylor Swift to help get out the vote. Climate activists try to desecrate another priceless work of art. This time it s the Mona Lisa. And in our daily cancellation, it s finally time to cancel moon landing deniers. All of that and more today on the Matt Warshaw Show.

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00:00:00.080 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Ilhan Omar, a United States congresswoman, just delivered a speech entirely in a foreign language where she pledged her loyalty and fidelity to a foreign nation.
00:00:09.320 She should be kicked out of office and deported at a minimum, obviously. We'll talk about that. 0.95
00:00:12.640 Also, the Biden campaign is preparing to enlist Taylor Swift to help get out the vote.
00:00:16.840 Climate activists try to desecrate another priceless work of art. This time it's the Mona Lisa.
00:00:21.180 And in our daily cancellation, it's been a long time coming, but it's finally time to cancel moon landing deniers.
00:00:26.600 All of that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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00:01:41.040 You know, it used to be that when a member of Congress delivered a fiery political speech in an election year, there were a few things you could take for granted.
00:02:02.300 For one thing, you could assume that the speech related in some way to the United States and its citizens.
00:02:07.420 You could also bet that the people listening to the speech and clapping at all the applause lines were invested in some way in the future of America.
00:02:15.020 You might disagree with them or even think their policies are really, really bad for the country.
00:02:18.740 But there was never any doubt that American politicians understood that their job was to address America's problems.
00:02:25.140 In theory, at least.
00:02:26.180 That was the bare minimum that you would expect.
00:02:28.780 Now, somewhere along the line, though, our leaders managed to sell the theory that rescuing third world refugees and importing them into the United States would solve a lot of our problems. 0.87
00:02:39.200 A generation or so later, that lie is the reason that nearly 100,000 residents of the state of Minnesota speak Somali.
00:02:45.520 And it's also the reason that Ilhan Omar, instead of being stuck in the single poorest place on the planet, is now a sitting member of Congress.
00:02:53.140 Now, whether she really married her brother or committed tax fraud isn't even relevant to the champions of diversity who welcomed her across our borders.
00:03:02.240 Neither is the question of whether Ilhan Omar likes this country or anybody living in it.
00:03:07.380 Instead, she and many of her constituents were allowed into the United States, supposedly on a theory that they'd assimilate and enrich our quality of life and contribute to our culture and our economy.
00:03:18.140 That was never going to be the outcome, though.
00:03:21.740 And this weekend, Ilhan Omar made that very clear in the form of a fiery election year speech in a hotel somewhere in Minneapolis.
00:03:30.320 Now, this speech had nothing to do with America's interests.
00:03:33.580 It was not about Ilhan Omar's plans to improve the life of a single American citizen in Minnesota or otherwise.
00:03:41.160 In fact, this speech wasn't even delivered in English.
00:03:44.660 Now, I'm going to I'm not going to play large clips of the speech to spare our audio listeners who, for the most part, probably don't speak Somali.
00:03:53.420 But for those watching the video podcast, I want to give you just about 45 seconds of this so that you can see some of the subtitles.
00:03:59.320 And it is in a foreign language, but the subtitles are the important thing here.
00:04:04.460 And here it is.
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00:04:13.160 And my other friends are getting canned something.
00:04:16.940 They're all safe off coming from them.
00:04:18.920 They're all safe and destructive and they're all safe.
00:04:22.840 And they're all safe and waterproofing and making those here.
00:04:28.020 Congress .
00:04:45.080 Now, I don't speak Somali.
00:05:00.180 I must have skipped that class in grade school.
00:05:02.560 So I can't vouch for the translation that's been accompanying that clip on social media,
00:05:07.080 which you can see if you're watching the video.
00:05:09.400 And if you aren't, the gist of the translation is that Ilhan Omar is telling this crowd of
00:05:13.280 Somali-Americans that they're all Somalis first and Muslims second, and they need to come 1.00
00:05:18.840 to the aid of other Somalis and other Muslims.
00:05:21.440 Now, she doesn't even mention the word American at all.
00:05:24.940 Somalis first, Muslims second, and Americans not at all, apparently. 0.98
00:05:31.020 She goes on to criticize people living in Somaliland, which borders Somalia, and she suggests that
00:05:36.380 those people are not real Somalis.
00:05:38.160 And then she briefly talks about the recent memorandum of understanding between Somaliland
00:05:43.320 and Ethiopia, in which Ethiopia gained access to the sea in exchange for recognizing Somaliland
00:05:47.700 as a sovereign state.
00:05:48.880 Now, you probably never heard about any of this, because it's not relevant to your life
00:05:53.420 at all.
00:05:54.320 And the geopolitical disputes between Somali and Ethiopia and this other place that you
00:05:58.260 may not have known even existed has no bearing on the United States or its legitimate interests.
00:06:04.380 Nonetheless, Ilhan Omar is very invested in this issue, because like a lot of progressives,
00:06:09.000 she's a hardcore nationalist when it comes to countries she actually cares about.
00:06:14.080 She's not worried if America is overrun with foreigners, but she desperately doesn't want 1.00
00:06:19.100 Somaliland to have any kind of recognition, because that would undermine Somalia's national
00:06:24.680 identity.
00:06:25.920 And therefore, Omar promises to do her best to prevent this agreement with Ethiopia from 0.93
00:06:30.520 being finalized.
00:06:31.180 She says that Americans will do whatever Somalians want, presumably because we're so weak and 0.97
00:06:36.940 naive, I guess.
00:06:38.520 And to that end, Omar declares in no uncertain terms that she's working to protect Somali
00:06:43.680 interests in Congress as opposed to American interests.
00:06:47.500 Quoting from the translation, the U.S. government will do what we Somalians in the U.S. tell them
00:06:51.000 to do.
00:06:51.780 They will do what we want and nothing else.
00:06:53.440 That is how we will safeguard the interests of Somalia.
00:06:56.120 I'm here to protect the interests of Somalia from inside the U.S. system.
00:06:59.040 I'm working day and night to protect your interests.
00:07:01.540 Together, we will protect the interests of Somalia.
00:07:04.920 Now, it should go without saying that if the translation is even remotely accurate, then
00:07:09.780 obviously Ilhan Omar needs to be expelled from Congress and deported immediately, if not
00:07:15.680 imprisoned for treason.
00:07:17.580 We are a complete joke of a country if we allow people like this to serve in public office.
00:07:22.880 She's openly admitting to working as a foreign agent against America's interests.
00:07:29.540 She's openly admitting to have the interests of another country as a priority, as her top
00:07:35.700 priority.
00:07:37.300 Now, some of Omar's defenders apparently realized how bad this looks, and they sprang into action.
00:07:41.760 So shortly after the translation began circulating on social media, somebody named Colin Robinson
00:07:46.660 posted a response to it saying, quote, this interpretation is slanted.
00:07:52.040 Omar says she is representing the interests of Somalis in the United States, which is a legitimate task
00:07:56.980 as a congresswoman in any democratic system.
00:07:59.580 So to be clear, this guy is not talking about the translation of Omar's remarks per se, but rather
00:08:05.840 the interpretation.
00:08:07.820 And then Ilhan Omar posted a reply to Colin Robinson.
00:08:10.800 She said, quote, it's not only slanted, but completely off.
00:08:13.620 But I wouldn't expect more from these propagandists.
00:08:16.040 I pray for them and for their sanity.
00:08:17.820 No nation state can survive if its states start to get involved in and lease negotiations with
00:08:21.760 other countries without the consent of the federal government.
00:08:24.380 Somalis in Somalia and in the diaspora are united in that effort, and I stand in solidarity
00:08:28.800 with them.
00:08:29.900 No amount of harassment and lies will ever change that.
00:08:33.240 You'll notice that nowhere in Omar's reply does she dispute the literal accuracy of any part
00:08:38.620 of the translation.
00:08:39.480 She's instead stating that the interpretation of her remarks is both slanted and completely
00:08:45.060 off without explaining further.
00:08:47.600 She was as vague as she possibly could have been.
00:08:50.740 And that's why last night I asked Omar directly, quote, are you denying the literal accuracy of
00:08:56.060 the translation?
00:08:57.340 Saying that the interpretation is slanted is not the same as saying the translation is inaccurate.
00:09:02.040 Now, you would think that if she was really being misquoted in a great degree, Omar would
00:09:09.140 have replied to my question or thousands of other people asking the same question last
00:09:13.580 night, but she didn't.
00:09:14.760 She ignored everybody.
00:09:16.740 But not everybody was silent.
00:09:18.180 A woman named Rhoda J. Almi, who identified herself as the deputy minister of foreign affairs
00:09:23.260 for the Republic of Somaliland, confirmed the accuracy of the translation on social media.
00:09:27.880 She wrote, quote, the language she employed was regrettably unbecoming of both the office
00:09:31.960 she holds and the constituents she represents.
00:09:34.060 Her use of ethno-racist rhetoric didn't escape attention and left many with a deep sense of
00:09:38.920 disappointment.
00:09:39.820 We hope the House leadership and her caucus will take note of her public conduct unbecoming
00:09:43.440 a United States Congresswoman nor representative of the august house she serves in.
00:09:49.440 Now, to be fair, this ambassador is hostile to Ilhan Omar.
00:09:52.860 So are the various publications in Somaliland that are publicizing her speech, including
00:09:57.320 something called the Somaliland Chronicle.
00:10:00.400 They are not the most impartial sources on this topic because Ilhan Omar doesn't even
00:10:04.380 want them recognized as a country.
00:10:05.940 So they kind of hold that against her.
00:10:07.580 But when I checked a handful of other translations online from various sources, I didn't see anything
00:10:12.560 that was much different.
00:10:13.780 Instead, I heard repeatedly that the initial social media translation was accurate in the
00:10:18.840 broad sense, meaning that while the words may or may not be precisely right,
00:10:21.700 the meaning is correct.
00:10:23.500 So none of these details really matter for a simple reason.
00:10:28.000 It's not the job of any American citizen to have to decode what a sitting U.S. Congresswoman
00:10:35.180 is saying in a political speech in this country.
00:10:38.860 So if there's any confusion about the translation or what exactly she said about Somaliland, then
00:10:44.400 that's on her.
00:10:46.840 I mean, for one thing, she shouldn't have delivered a speech about a foreign country in a foreign
00:10:50.160 language so that no native English speaker could understand a word she was saying.
00:10:56.000 We're so worried these days about inclusion and accessibility.
00:10:59.800 We have many laws on the books to enforce these concepts.
00:11:02.580 Well, maybe this is another accessibility law that we need now.
00:11:07.160 We shouldn't need the law at all, but I guess we do.
00:11:09.580 If you are an elected representative of the United States of America, you should not be
00:11:14.640 allowed to give speeches in any language but English, because everything you say publicly
00:11:20.540 must be accessible and inclusive to American citizens.
00:11:26.580 But it's worse than that, because once she made that mistake, she should have immediately
00:11:31.660 clarified exactly what she meant.
00:11:33.040 Instead, she just said that it's off and then ran away.
00:11:35.580 The burden of proof is on Ilhan Omar.
00:11:38.160 She's supposed to work for us. 1.00
00:11:40.860 And she's repeatedly made dual loyalty accusations of her own in the past, so she should understand
00:11:45.780 the criticism and how to respond to it.
00:11:47.960 Instead, she's off giving speeches about her position on Somaliland, which not a single
00:11:52.880 American citizen cares about or should care about.
00:11:56.300 File this under things that should not need to be said.
00:11:59.040 There should not be anyone serving this country in Congress who has any allegiance that comes
00:12:06.160 before or even exists on the same level as their allegiance to this country.
00:12:12.000 The fact that Omar has created that doubt through her own conduct repeatedly is grounds to kick
00:12:18.980 her out of Congress at a minimum.
00:12:21.900 At least one lawmaker is already on board with that. 0.99
00:12:24.160 Last night, Georgia Congressman Mike Collins wrote, quote,
00:12:26.560 What if Ilhan fought for Somalia from Somalia?
00:12:29.840 It might be time to discuss expelling another member of Congress.
00:12:34.240 Collins makes a great point.
00:12:36.060 Because it was just a few weeks ago that George Santos was kicked out of Congress for lying
00:12:39.900 a lot and, I don't know, being too sassy or something.
00:12:42.640 But there was never any suggestion that George Santos is loyal to some foreign nation or hates
00:12:46.800 this country.
00:12:47.960 He never gave a speech in a foreign language about subverting the will of the American people.
00:12:52.300 He also never downplayed 9-11 as some people doing something, quote, unquote.
00:12:57.080 So why is he gone and why is Omar still there? 0.96
00:13:01.120 That question needs to be answered along with questions of why Ilhan Omar was ever in this
00:13:06.160 country in the first place.
00:13:07.360 I mean, Somalia is a failed state that exports nothing to the world but piracy and terrorism.
00:13:14.020 Somalia as a country contributes nothing, accomplishes nothing, it has achieved nothing. 0.72
00:13:21.900 You'd have to go back thousands of years to find a time when Somalia had any real significance
00:13:26.680 on the global stage.
00:13:27.880 And yet, Omar professes deep pride in it and pledges her undying loyalty to this failed state.
00:13:36.180 And that's why, you know, there's an important lesson we could all learn from these Somalians.
00:13:42.680 Even Somalians like Ilhan Omar, who don't live in Somalia because her family fled the country
00:13:48.420 for their own safety.
00:13:50.340 Still, they have a fierce loyalty to Somalia and they speak about it with love and admiration.
00:13:56.600 In fact, a couple of years ago, Ilhan Omar said that she had it better in a refugee camp
00:14:02.380 in East Africa than migrant kids do in the U.S. 0.65
00:14:06.300 Watch.
00:14:07.600 When I arrived at the age of eight at the border of Kenya, you know, I was processed and given
00:14:14.880 an opportunity to be sheltered.
00:14:18.960 And, you know, throughout those four years, I waited for a process to eventually have a
00:14:25.720 better opportunity here in the United States.
00:14:28.380 And, you know, the conditions I lived in were not acceptable as well, but they certainly
00:14:34.440 did not resemble anything like the conditions that kids are living at our border here in
00:14:39.840 the United States of America.
00:14:42.060 Now, this is something of a recurring theme for Omar.
00:14:44.880 At every opportunity, she goes out of her way to talk up Somalia.
00:14:47.300 That same year, for example, she said that Minneapolis is more violent than the refugee
00:14:52.620 camp she lived in in Africa.
00:14:55.180 Of course, that didn't stop her from calling for the dismantling of the police department
00:14:58.100 or for the importation of even more Somali gangs.
00:15:02.820 That's because she didn't make the comment to improve Minneapolis in any way.
00:15:06.840 She made it to degrade Minneapolis using her old homeland as a proxy. 0.99
00:15:11.780 And what's amusing about Omar's approach is that she's apparently been taking things too
00:15:15.320 far, even for the Somalians living in Minneapolis.
00:15:19.300 And that's why she was booed at a Somali music festival in her own district back in 2022,
00:15:23.700 because apparently they don't like being compared to Minneapolis in any way.
00:15:27.900 Watch.
00:15:28.260 So it turns out that Somalis living in Minneapolis don't want you to bash America so much that
00:15:52.140 you end up indirectly bashing their African homeland in the process.
00:15:55.260 No matter how corrupt and dangerous East Africa is, its refugees still have some fondness for 1.00
00:16:00.880 it.
00:16:01.980 This is how all people outside of the modern Western world think about and talk about their
00:16:08.600 countries.
00:16:09.440 Even if their countries are objectively hell holes, even if they have left their countries 1.00
00:16:14.900 and come here seeking refuge, they still often prefer the country they left to the one that
00:16:21.380 took them in.
00:16:23.440 By contrast to our great detriment, we've convinced ourselves that we shouldn't talk about our own
00:16:28.740 country this way or have the same level of pride in our own nation.
00:16:32.520 A nation that is, by every conceivable metric, vastly superior to Somalia, which is a low bar, 1.00
00:16:39.120 granted.
00:16:39.460 And that's a point that even the Somalians themselves seem to agree with, which is why 0.98
00:16:43.700 they can't wait to escape their homeland and adopt this one instead.
00:16:47.460 A Somali news outlet called Garraway Online quoted this line from Omar in their article
00:16:52.400 about her speech, quote, Somalia is Somali.
00:16:55.200 Somalia is one. 0.85
00:16:56.400 We are brothers.
00:16:57.200 Our land will not be divided.
00:16:58.580 Now, this line alone, as translated by a Somali news agency, is enough reason to expel Ilhan
00:17:06.440 Omar and send her back where she came from, to deport her from the country. 1.00
00:17:10.500 She is declaring, we are one.
00:17:12.260 We are brothers.
00:17:12.820 Our land will not be divided.
00:17:14.160 And she's saying this about a foreign country.
00:17:16.700 So for Ilhan Omar, who's supposed to be representing the United States, our land is not the United
00:17:21.920 States.
00:17:22.760 It is Somalia.
00:17:23.940 Now, you'll never hear Omar speak with this kind of fire and passion about the country
00:17:29.220 she's supposed to be representing in Congress.
00:17:32.260 You certainly will never and have never heard her defend our sovereignty.
00:17:37.340 Like, when was the last time you ever heard her say anything about American sovereignty?
00:17:41.100 In a positive way.
00:17:42.660 If she uses the phrase, our sovereignty, you know automatically she's talking about another 0.99
00:17:47.840 country entirely.
00:17:48.640 And yet, the tragic truth is that almost nobody in Congress, even the ones who were born here,
00:17:55.060 would talk about America the way that Ilhan Omar talks about Somalia, a country where
00:17:58.820 the average yearly income is $600 and the average life expectancy is $55.
00:18:04.600 So there's not a whole lot to be proud of when it comes to Somalia, yet Somalians are proud
00:18:08.900 of Somalia against all odds.
00:18:11.620 Meanwhile, almost none of our representatives have that passion and fire for our country.
00:18:16.940 And if they did talk about America that way, declaring that we are one, we're brothers,
00:18:21.700 our national sovereignty will not be infringed upon, they'd be condemned as xenophobic and
00:18:26.420 ethnocentric.
00:18:28.380 Because only non-white people from non-white parts of the world are allowed to say these 0.79
00:18:33.100 kinds of things.
00:18:34.000 And those from America or Western Europe are supposed to cheer, not for the defense of our 0.81
00:18:39.140 national sovereignty, but for its erasure.
00:18:41.160 Now, whatever else Ilhan Omar said specifically in her speech this weekend, it's abundantly clear
00:18:47.280 which constituency she really represents.
00:18:50.080 She represents a very prideful, increasingly powerful foreign population that has no regard 1.00
00:18:55.780 for the United States or its citizens.
00:18:57.260 Doesn't even really consider themselves to be Americans.
00:18:59.180 And if there's anything encouraging about any of that, if we're looking for any kind of
00:19:05.680 silver lining, it's the fact that, you know, Americans could just as easily become zealots
00:19:10.840 for this country and its interests.
00:19:14.080 And if we're able to do that, even for a moment, then we'll know it because people like Ilhan
00:19:19.640 Omar won't be in this country anymore. 1.00
00:19:21.120 We're not going to import people who hate everything about us, as Ilhan Omar clearly does.
00:19:28.720 And then when our elected representatives deliver fiery election year speeches, we might be able
00:19:35.040 to actually understand them, which is a low bar, admittedly.
00:19:38.960 But if they can clear it in Somalia, we should be able to clear it here as well. 0.99
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00:20:31.400 All right, I'm trying to emotionally recover today.
00:20:34.080 My Baltimore Ravens choked again in the playoffs.
00:20:37.960 They lost the conference championship game, which is actually what I predicted because I'm a
00:20:43.760 great football prognosticator.
00:20:47.200 I tweeted a prediction ahead of the game, and I said that the Chiefs would win 17-10, and
00:20:52.620 that's exactly what happened.
00:20:54.300 Of course, technically, what my tweet actually said is that the Ravens would win 38-14, but
00:21:01.460 as I explained later, that was actually a typo.
00:21:03.760 It was kind of an autocorrect sort of thing.
00:21:05.280 I meant to say Chiefs 17-10, and that's a bit of a miscommunication there.
00:21:08.880 But anyway, the point is the Ravens lost it.
00:21:10.740 And worst of all, that means that Groundhog Day will keep repeating, and we have two more
00:21:16.560 weeks of Taylor Swift, God help us all, which, and a lot more than two weeks, actually, just
00:21:23.000 two weeks of the football season, the two weeks of this intersection of Taylor Swift and this
00:21:27.240 unholy intersection of Taylor Swift and football.
00:21:30.200 But then it will go beyond that, if the Democrats have anything to say about it.
00:21:35.400 As Forbes reports this morning, President Joe Biden's campaign is gearing up for November's
00:21:39.300 general election by putting former President Donald Trump, the all-but-assured-to-be GOP
00:21:43.720 nominee, in its crosshairs and planning a re-election bid dominated by abortion rights with the help 0.98
00:21:48.880 of influencers and, it hopes, potentially Taylor Swift.
00:21:51.760 According to the New York Times, the Biden campaign aims to make attacking Trump a central
00:21:54.960 part of its re-election strategy.
00:21:56.180 Oh, wow, that's, does that even need to be included, that line?
00:22:00.680 You know, the Biden campaign's, Biden campaign plans to attack their political opponent.
00:22:05.160 That's, that's, it's a, it's an odd sort of innovative strategy they're going to try out
00:22:10.300 this time around.
00:22:11.000 We'll, we'll see.
00:22:12.040 And attacking Trump of all, of all people.
00:22:13.640 I mean, this is, we've never seen this before.
00:22:15.500 I don't know.
00:22:15.900 We've never seen Democrats attack Trump.
00:22:17.920 So we'll have to see how this works out.
00:22:21.720 Anyway, but they, they, they're going to bring in some people to help with this.
00:22:24.800 And, um, one of them is going to be, uh, they hope Taylor Swift.
00:22:30.900 The Times reports noting applicants to social media role for the campaign were advised not
00:22:34.480 to describe their Taylor Swift strategy, given how many suggestions there've already been
00:22:38.440 within the campaign about how to garner her support.
00:22:41.040 One of those ideas, which the Times noted was a bit in jest as even to send Biden to a
00:22:45.840 stop on Swift's eras tour.
00:22:47.520 Um, and whether they do that or not, which I don't even think that's in jest.
00:22:53.100 I mean, they probably will do that or something like it.
00:22:56.100 They want to recruit Taylor Swift.
00:22:57.360 Now you may be wondering how much impact would a Taylor Swift endorsement actually have?
00:23:02.860 Well, according to the polls anyway, the answer is a lot, a lot of impact.
00:23:08.120 Uh, the Daily Mail reports today, quote, Taylor Swift could heavily influence the way that
00:23:12.360 Americans vote in the presidential election, with a fifth of voters saying they're likely
00:23:16.660 to back a candidate that she endorses.
00:23:19.400 The pop star's stratospheric influence on popular culture may sway the race to the White
00:23:22.960 House, especially as new Gen Z voters join the electorate this year.
00:23:26.260 In a poll conducted by Redfield and Wilton Strategies for Newsweek, 18% of voters say they're
00:23:31.960 more likely or significantly more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by Taylor Swift.
00:23:36.120 Uh, her sway was more visible with voters under the age of 35, no big surprise there. 1.00
00:23:42.300 Um, the election will see 8 million new voters in the U.S. electorate, uh, and a total of
00:23:47.340 41 million Gen Z voters.
00:23:49.000 However, 17% said they would be less likely to vote for a candidate backed by Swift, which
00:23:53.560 could bode badly for Democrat Joe Biden.
00:23:56.600 Okay, now some caveats here.
00:23:58.480 First of all, the 18% figure has to be inaccurate.
00:24:01.920 I mean, there's, maybe this is just cope on my part.
00:24:05.060 Maybe I'm, I'm saying this for my own sanity so that I can sleep easy at night, but there's
00:24:09.720 no way 18% of Americans are going to tie their vote, uh, to a Taylor Swift endorsement.
00:24:17.820 That's like 60 million people if you extrapolate out.
00:24:21.960 And it just can't be that high.
00:24:23.480 Again, for my own sanity, I cannot believe that it's that high.
00:24:26.340 But what we do know is that, uh, the number of, of Swift voters is not zero.
00:24:31.740 Like it's probably significantly above zero.
00:24:35.280 And now sure, you've got the 17% who say that they'll vote against Taylor Swift, but I'm
00:24:42.340 not going to hang my hat on that.
00:24:43.760 You know, um, a certain portion of the electorate doesn't like Taylor Swift.
00:24:48.460 I, I don't think anyone's going to be motivated to go out to the polls to vote against Taylor
00:24:53.740 Swift's endorsement.
00:24:54.560 Um, like on election day, you look at the polling data, the exit polls, I don't think
00:24:59.240 anyone's going to say, yeah, I'm just here to vote against Taylor Swift.
00:25:01.840 That's all I care about.
00:25:03.020 Um, that's probably not going to happen.
00:25:04.500 I think it is more likely that you'll have, especially young voters, especially young female
00:25:09.720 voters who are motivated in large part to go out to the polls because Taylor Swift told
00:25:17.020 them to and, and, uh, told them what to do when they get there.
00:25:22.340 So what do we make of that?
00:25:23.660 Well, I think obviously it's just more confirmation of the point that I've been making forever.
00:25:30.420 A point that has been proven, uh, time and now it's proven very unpopular, but it's also
00:25:36.380 been, uh, confirmed time and time again.
00:25:39.380 And I think more people are coming around to it, which is that universal voting rights are
00:25:43.940 a mistake. Now it's still an unpopular view. Um, not surprisingly, and I'm not saying it's
00:25:52.760 a good political strategy to talk about this, but I'm not a politician. So I'm not worried
00:25:58.880 about that. I'm just saying what is the only thing I'm interested in is just saying what
00:26:02.320 happens to be true and, and, and let the chips fall where they may. So, um, universal
00:26:07.820 voting rights, obviously a mistake. And, and like maybe right now we can, but eventually we
00:26:12.780 do have to have this conversation because if we don't, it's just the end of the country.
00:26:16.560 So we can avoid having an awkward discussion about voting rights and what they really should
00:26:21.300 be. And that's fine. We can keep avoiding it, but then it'll just be the end of the
00:26:24.840 country. The country's just going to be over. So, um, yeah, that's, those are the choices
00:26:29.080 that we have. Um, there's a reason why the people who established this country never intended
00:26:36.060 for it to work this way. Uh, not everybody should have an equal say in how the country
00:26:41.840 is run. Not everyone is fit to have a say. The sorts of people who would be persuaded to
00:26:47.380 vote because Taylor Swift said so don't deserve to have voting rights, obviously. And I don't
00:26:55.620 say that ironically or as a joke or whatever, maybe as some people do, uh, it, it, I really
00:27:02.120 mean it. I mean, the idea that we have some sort of sacred obligation, which has been written
00:27:07.760 in the heaven somewhere to allow the dumbest morons on earth to, to vote our country into 1.00
00:27:15.080 extinction. I mean, that idea is, it's just, it's ludicrous. It's suicidal. It's a suicidally 1.00
00:27:21.420 stupid idea. There's a reason why if you go back through history, you're really not going 1.00
00:27:27.580 to find any intelligent person. Go back thousands of years, right? To the, to the, to the dawn
00:27:33.000 of democracy. You're not going to find any intelligent person who thought that democracy
00:27:38.140 should work like this. Nobody thought this. And, um, I'm not saying that now because I'm
00:27:45.060 mad about Taylor Swift. You all know, I've been saying this for years and years and years.
00:27:49.260 And if Taylor Swift tips an election, which she very well may, it will just be the final 0.98
00:27:57.060 confirmation of my point. So the fact is very simple here. Not everybody is fit to have a say
00:28:01.700 in, um, how the country is run and who its leaders are. Um, obviously not everybody is
00:28:07.680 fit. And, and the way that you know that is that you wouldn't run anything else like this,
00:28:14.360 right? Would you, you, you wouldn't want anything else to be run like this. A restaurant, um, isn't
00:28:21.880 going to take a poll of the public every month and then decide on what its menu is going to
00:28:26.460 be based on what a majority of people say they want. And, uh, because when you go to a nice
00:28:31.300 restaurant, you don't want a meal that's, that's, that's decided much less prepared based
00:28:37.760 on a democratic vote. Nobody does. Like the democratic restaurant is not one that
00:28:44.240 anyone would go to. Right. And this is the case in all areas of life, all areas. I mean,
00:28:51.600 if I take my car to the mechanic, I don't want him to conduct a random poll of the people sitting
00:28:56.400 in the waiting room to see what fixes they should make to my engine, because it's like
00:29:01.000 it's, it's, they're not going to arrive at the right conclusion just because more people said it.
00:29:07.720 You know, I don't want the mechanic to come in and said, well, here's what we're doing with
00:29:11.360 the engine. Uh, you know, the 15 people, they all agreed. Well, who are the 15 people?
00:29:15.960 But why would they know anything about this? Why should I trust what they're saying?
00:29:20.900 Why would they have a say in this? Um, you wouldn't go to a mechanic that worked that way.
00:29:26.000 You wouldn't go to a doctor that worked that way. Nothing in life works this way or should work
00:29:30.320 this way. My own home doesn't work like this. And hopefully yours doesn't either. When I make a
00:29:34.980 decision, I don't pull my kids and give them all equal weight in the decision. That's a recipe for
00:29:40.280 dysfunction and worse. So in no area of life, do any of us want important decisions to be made
00:29:49.420 based on the majority consensus of a bunch of people who are not remotely qualified to be
00:29:53.400 involved in the first place. And we are in every other area. We all agree on that.
00:29:58.520 And yet our entire country itself is run like that. Um, which is again, something that every great
00:30:06.620 thinker since the dawn of democracy has seen that like, you can't, it just can't work that you can't
00:30:11.640 do it like that. There are different ways of doing it. There are different ways of deciding who it's
00:30:15.320 to vote and who doesn't. But no one thought everybody was like, obviously not everyone can
00:30:21.040 vote. That's crazy. Why? Well, because you've got a bunch of morons who will actually go vote based
00:30:26.920 on what Taylor Swift tells them to do. You just, you can't allow that. If you value your country 1.00
00:30:31.820 and the future of your nation that you are living in and that your family and your children live in,
00:30:37.000 you can't just allow that. And the only argument for it is yeah, but it's what they want. Who gives
00:30:41.700 a damn what they want? Are you, is that what we're doing? Just going to watch the collapse and
00:30:47.440 suicide of our country because well, that's what a lot of people wanted. Okay. Well, it's like if
00:30:54.420 you're on a train and there's a majority vote on the train that they want to just, they wanted to go
00:30:58.720 over a cliff. Are you going to sit there like, well, okay, well, you know, that's what everybody
00:31:01.740 wants. I guess, uh, well, all right then. I, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to fringe on
00:31:05.640 the democratic rights of everybody else. Yeah. I got my kids here, but we'll just go over the cliff.
00:31:09.560 Sure. Yeah. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's for democracy after all. It's crazy. It's crazy.
00:31:17.040 Eventually we just, we need to be able to talk about this. We just do. All right. Speaking of crazy,
00:31:22.340 NBC news has this climate activists battled, uh, weekend crowds at the Louvre museum in Paris on Sunday
00:31:28.460 to splash the iconic Mona Lisa with canned soup video shows two women throwing a red liquid at 1.00
00:31:34.980 the painting before crossing the wooden barrier, protecting it from crowds. One of the women 0.83
00:31:39.080 removes her jacket, um, and to reveal, she's a food sustainability activist. Uh, and so this is
00:31:50.620 their climate activists, but their thing is food sustainability. So they were not able to make,
00:31:56.900 uh, the temperature of the earth, the, the average global temperature go down by throwing paint and
00:32:01.820 soup on paintings. And so now they're going to try, well, we can't do that, but maybe we can make food
00:32:07.020 sustainable by defacing famous paintings. Um, anyway, of course, as always, this is all on video and
00:32:13.620 let's, uh, let's watch the video. Here it is.
00:32:15.520 Uh...
00:32:32.840 so this ties directly into the opening monologue um the lack of pride the lack of passion for our
00:33:00.600 heritage and history is uh just disgrace i mean it's so it's the most depressing thing 0.65
00:33:09.120 that you can see like the watching a video like that it it should infuriate you it's also
00:33:15.960 deeply deeply depressing um the mona lisa is a 500 year old painting by one of the great masters
00:33:22.580 one of the great uh artistic geniuses in human history and um and we have a lot of of great
00:33:29.960 geniuses in the history of the west and anybody who tries to destroy it or desecrate it should provoke
00:33:38.140 fury and rage now yeah they failed to damage the painting that doesn't matter they tried to damage
00:33:45.920 it and they're using it for a political stunt and so there should be a mob of people with the museum 0.99
00:33:51.760 security at the front swarming to tackle these scumbags and drag them out of the museum by their 0.97
00:33:57.460 hair and at that point they should be arrested and thrown in prison and instead nothing happens 0.97
00:34:03.540 in fact it's worse than nothing that's why i wanted you to see that video because the museum staff
00:34:06.600 it shows up and they put up barriers to block the protesters that's their response is to put up
00:34:13.780 these uh black like curtains and the fact that they have these curtains ready to go
00:34:19.600 means that like that's their policy this is their official strategy rather than dragging these dirt 0.96
00:34:27.020 bags out they just stand in front of them it's the most pathetic thing i've ever seen in fact i would 0.90
00:34:31.840 rather i wish that the video cut off and i never saw that the curtain thing that's more depressing
00:34:38.820 than if just nobody showed up to stop them at least that i can imagine that maybe if nobody shows up
00:34:43.700 i could just imagine in my head that there's one fat security guard that fell asleep on the job or
00:34:48.440 something uh i don't know i'd prefer that over this which is that they they are ready to respond
00:34:55.780 the museum is and that's their response um and again it ties into the opening monologue like
00:35:03.740 one thing i can tell you for sure that we know you ain't doing this in a muslim country 1.00
00:35:07.840 right this this is not happening in a muslim country what do you think happens if you show up
00:35:12.500 at an art museum in saudi arabia with a can of soup to throw in a centuries centuries old piece
00:35:19.700 of art what do you think happens well first of all you're not going to get past security with the
00:35:24.680 can of soup because they're going to see you have a can of soup and they're going to say what do you
00:35:28.260 guess why are you bringing soup into the museum what is that i just want some campbells i thought i'd
00:35:33.860 grab some campbells on the way to go look at some paintings no you're not coming in here with that
00:35:39.580 so that should be very like i don't know how you sneak soup into anywhere um that has any form of
00:35:46.880 security whatsoever but they do um if they're even sneaking it in i i like you know i've never seen
00:35:54.760 the first part and we only we only see the videos you know right before or right after they've
00:36:01.180 desecrated the painting i would i would i would love to see what it looks like when they're like i want
00:36:06.640 to i want to see the whole process starting from when they get out of their cars uh or they're
00:36:11.700 probably not driving cars because they're climate activists or no they probably are because they're
00:36:15.060 climate activists and they're hypocrites but anyway so from when they're like walking up the steps 0.56
00:36:18.700 into the museum holding their soups they've got a camera guy ready to go what does that whole 0.93
00:36:24.660 scene look like because it's pretty apparent that the security sees this and knows exactly what's
00:36:30.520 going to happen and they make no attempt to stop it whatsoever but if you again if you saudi arabia
00:36:37.400 let's say you did and if you managed managed to sneak the soup in um and then you did exactly that
00:36:43.660 with some iconic piece of art in a you know museum in saudi arabia uh you it would be the last time
00:36:49.980 anybody ever saw you like you would just be done living at that point and that would just be it you're
00:36:54.520 not life is over now you the congratulations that's the end of your life now and we're you will
00:36:59.940 not be living anymore after doing that um and i don't say that in a disapproving way i mean i i like
00:37:05.920 i don't mean in in a um oh those saudi arabians are so barbaric no they have the right idea in this 1.00
00:37:10.800 regard uh they take their heritage and history and culture seriously as they should they're not
00:37:15.180 going to prioritize the ego of one individual who wants to have a temper tantrum over their people's
00:37:20.040 culture and heritage nor should they and and that's what this is about like are we going to
00:37:25.480 take our culture seriously or not questions already been answered i mean if we're going to let people
00:37:32.920 uh if we're going to let people mess with the freaking mona lisa okay the most famous piece of
00:37:39.500 artwork ever produced in the history of western civilization or certainly top five in that regard
00:37:47.280 then then it's just it's game over we've chosen suicide we've lost the will to live culturally at
00:37:53.680 that point and the fact this even needs to be explained is uh it tells you everything you need
00:38:00.600 to know need to know i mean i've always said that i would be in favor of using lethal force
00:38:05.260 to protect great pieces of art and and it boggles my mind every time this comes up and i hear from
00:38:12.660 otherwise intelligent people who disagree they disagree with that they say we should not use
00:38:17.640 they say well is is the artwork really worth somebody's life uh yes obviously it is definitely
00:38:26.940 it's worth somebody's life like if the mona lisa didn't have bulletproof glass in front of it
00:38:33.040 and uh which it didn't up until i think to the early 2000s and and um and it didn't have
00:38:40.460 bulletproof glass and if you ran up and tried to throw tomato soup on it and i was standing there 0.93
00:38:46.300 with a gun i would not hesitate to kill you i i wouldn't even i wouldn't hesitate in fact i would 1.00
00:38:52.320 sleep i would kill you to stop you from doing that and i would sleep like a baby at night i 1.00
00:38:55.740 wouldn't even have any remorse over it just no hesitation and i would sleep great it's like i'd 0.94
00:39:00.620 sleep better i'd sleep great at night knowing that i protected the mona lisa because the moment
00:39:05.900 you try to damage and desecrate the mona lisa your life becomes less important than the mona lisa
00:39:11.620 itself like if i need to make a choice if you put people in a position where they got to make a choice
00:39:18.440 they can either preserve the most iconic piece of artwork in history and make sure that it's here
00:39:23.940 for humanity for years to come or they can preserve you and make sure that you are here for years to
00:39:30.900 come well like we're taking the painting and and you you've made the choice uh or you've made us
00:39:38.600 make the choice and and you lose that contest every time or you should at least now i know that people
00:39:45.160 will say that uh you know a human life has more value than a painting but that's not necessarily true
00:39:52.360 you know so we're doing a lot of uh hard truth today on the show apparently so uh universal voting
00:39:57.980 rights mistake that's one hard truth uh not every human life is worth more than than than a painting
00:40:03.960 necessarily in every context like it's just not um it it's and when you when the context is that you
00:40:10.420 are a person trying to destroy the piece of art well then you your life is less of a priority
00:40:16.560 than the preservation of the art you're trying to destroy um which this is one of those things
00:40:23.740 why you know i always go back to this but i think it's important point that for almost all of human
00:40:28.520 history this would not even have would not have even been controversial it just would have been
00:40:32.120 intuitively understood of course of course you run in and try to desecrate this great beautiful piece 0.98
00:40:37.920 of art that's been here for centuries like of course you should be killed to stop that from happening
00:40:41.560 what again what is there even to think about and you know the thing we have to remember is that is
00:40:47.660 that the painting derives its value from human life right so this is not an inanimate object
00:40:55.680 versus a human life it's not the material itself that we are valuing it's the meaning
00:41:02.960 right of of the art it's it's cultural and historic significance it's the pride and joy that beautiful art
00:41:11.060 brings to people art is one of the things that makes life worth living in the first place
00:41:17.600 and and so the mona lisa and i'm just using that as an example again and again because this is that
00:41:22.300 happens to be the painting they were trying to desecrate uh but the mona lisa has the value
00:41:26.560 that humanity has collectively given it now when i say humanity i really mean specifically western
00:41:32.380 culture it has the value of western culture and and so that's what it is like when you try to
00:41:38.180 destroy the painting it's not you versus the painting it's you versus western culture and is your life
00:41:43.620 worth more than western culture no it's not it's just not and um and we have a right to cultural
00:41:52.300 self-defense we have a right to defend our culture with lethal force which is something that
00:41:58.120 once again every other culture intuitively just down to their bones they viscerally understand this
00:42:07.520 we are the only ones who are confused about some of the most basic common sense
00:42:13.100 uh things that that all come down to self-preservation it's like it's only here in in the modern west
00:42:21.200 we have to spend time debating about do we have a right to preserve ourselves and our sovereignty and
00:42:26.060 our culture should we value these things should we do we have a right to is this right is this okay
00:42:30.900 is this too mean we're the only ones the whole rest of the world is looking at us like what the
00:42:36.660 what what are you debating here exactly i'm not debating anything i don't think there's anything
00:42:42.620 to debate really all right well that's two headlines instead of five but we got close enough let's get
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00:43:59.900 better sleep starts now so we talked on friday about child labor um and there are some laws in uh
00:44:08.700 we're just going down the list today uh no universal voting rights it's okay to kill people to protect 0.83
00:44:15.280 paintings child labor you know we're gonna hit them all um we're gonna throw all the my least popular
00:44:21.300 views into one and then and the daily cancellation is going to keep that trend going in a big way okay
00:44:26.100 so we talked on friday about child labor there um you know there are some laws in florida looking to
00:44:30.780 moderately relax some of the child labor laws uh so that high school kids can uh work longer hours if
00:44:37.000 they want to and despite the way that these laws are reported it's not a law that is like conscripting
00:44:44.940 uh kids into into the workforce or forcing them like forced labor and mcdonald's like that's not
00:44:51.840 it it's just especially high school kids if they want to work longer hours makes more money they can
00:44:56.420 that that's the idea of the law and there was also a viral video of a kid working the cash register
00:45:01.340 burger king and it went viral because people were upset that he was a victim of child labor and i pointed
00:45:07.640 out that the kid was doing a great job that it's not abusive or a violation of human rights to let a
00:45:12.540 14 year old kid 14 or 15 or whatever he is work a cash register like that's perfectly acceptable
00:45:18.360 that's a perfectly acceptable activity for a 14 or 15 year old kid is to stand behind a cash register
00:45:23.620 push buttons and and hand a bag of food to somebody there's nothing about that where any reasonable
00:45:29.180 person should look at that and say well we can't have kids kids kids can't do that no way um
00:45:34.180 although i wasn't sure who took the video of him or why they took it so uh that was my only
00:45:40.020 question about that so let's go to a few comments first one i still don't think kids should work most
00:45:44.280 fast food jobs cashier fine just make sure they know how to handle food without what know not to
00:45:49.380 handle food without washing their hands but there's equipment that could cause serious injuries if not
00:45:53.560 handled correctly not to mention concerns for cross-contamination another comment says school
00:45:58.500 kids should not be working past 10 on a school night nor should they be working full-time lest they
00:46:03.000 fall behind in school the santus just wants to use american kids like employees who use immigrant labor 1.00
00:46:08.060 no finally i'm the mom i took the video to mess with him he loves his job it's amazingly polite
00:46:14.620 young man and hard worker thank you for your kind words we know he's going places for sure okay
00:46:19.160 so that explains who took the video um and you should be proud of your son looks like he has a
00:46:24.920 great attitude um is uh doing a fine job and in jobs like that customer service at that you know
00:46:30.800 very entry-level sort of customer service minimum wage type jobs um attitude is really it's the most
00:46:37.040 important thing and you could say that in life but but you know that's that's not necessarily there
00:46:41.140 are many jobs where there are things more important than the attitude you have while you do them
00:46:44.280 but customer service is really like 90 it's just do you have a good attitude and um if you do then
00:46:50.520 you're great at your job and um your son does have a great great attitude now as for the other comments
00:46:56.800 if a 15 or 16 year old kid doesn't know to wash his hands and can't be taught how to use a stove
00:47:06.780 or a deep fryer then that 15 or 16 year old kid has serious issues and probably severe mental delays
00:47:13.980 and i don't say that to be mean i mean i'm saying it 100 seriously but most teenagers should be perfectly
00:47:21.720 capable of doing these kinds of jobs and have been doing them since forever um and if we never expect
00:47:30.460 that of them if we never put them in a position of some responsibility if we never give them any real
00:47:35.780 tasks to complete uh if they're never depended on to do anything then they will likely grow up to be
00:47:42.780 incompetent and irresponsible adults and and you know you increase the likelihood of that happening or at
00:47:50.100 least you increase the likelihood of there being a really difficult learning curve if uh your kid
00:47:55.340 never even has any professional responsibilities any any any work responsibilities until he's already
00:48:01.480 an adult okay like we talked about last week it's just it's crazy that we've got probably millions of
00:48:09.260 young adults who the first job they ever get is when they're already an adult not just already adult
00:48:15.920 like a few years into adulthood and it's their first experience ever doing any kind of work
00:48:22.340 uh that's it's nuts it's just crazy it's a recipe for and it's not good uh for the kids and it's not good
00:48:30.760 for them when they become young adults you know my my oldest daughter is 10 years old and she can
00:48:36.900 function basically independently in the kitchen she uses the oven she uses the stove she chops things with
00:48:42.540 sharp knives like the other day she was in the kitchen walk to the kitchen she was making herself
00:48:46.960 an omelet you know she did a pretty good job she makes a better omelet than i do actually she makes 1.00
00:48:50.660 cookies and desserts for the family uh probably too often you know because i'm it's i've probably gained
00:48:55.820 about 13 pounds since she started doing that uh she and her brother made dinner for the for the 0.98
00:49:03.240 family on saturday they wanted to make dinner and and she's 10 and she can do all this um and so when i hear 0.69
00:49:08.820 people talk about their 15 and 16 year olds and say well i don't think i don't think they can really
00:49:13.280 what my 10 year olds can do this and you're you're high school aged kids can't do these basic things
00:49:21.140 that that is not a reflection of them being kids and it might not be a reflection of them being
00:49:28.820 mentally delayed you know that could be what but it's more than likely actually so it's a reflection
00:49:33.820 of poor parenting on your part like if you can't trust your 15 or 16 year old to make a meal
00:49:38.780 if you can't trust them to you know if you wouldn't want them working in the the kitchen
00:49:43.640 somewhere because you can't trust them well that that's that is a reflect that's you have done a bad
00:49:48.060 job of being a parent um you have not introduced these responsibilities which you already should have
00:49:54.580 like years before that um and uh and finally to the idea that desantis wants to use american kids
00:50:04.800 instead of immigrant labor uh i don't like the word use there okay i would say use i wouldn't that's
00:50:14.240 not the right word but american kids instead of immigrant labor yes like yeah of course of course
00:50:23.380 course we should be giving american kids uh these entry-level minimum wage type jobs instead 0.95
00:50:28.660 of a set of people from foreign countries yet another thing that should not be controversial
00:50:33.220 a thousand percent like working behind a cash register at a fast food restaurant first of all
00:50:38.740 it's not supposed to be a career it's not it's not something that that that 28 year olds should 1.00
00:50:44.640 be doing in the first place unless they're in management um these are jobs that are that are for
00:50:50.600 teenagers and and yes i would prefer american kids over uh foreigners getting these jobs in america 1.00
00:51:00.340 call me crazy america is currently experiencing an unprecedented invasion with millions of illegal
00:51:06.540 immigrants flooding our border uh under the biden administration's watch as texas shoulders the
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00:52:13.700 let's get to our daily cancellation all right today is a long time coming we're going to cancel
00:52:24.660 moon landing deniers those who subscribe to the theory that the moon landing was fake i am finally
00:52:30.900 addressing the subject on the show because i was provoked and it's very easy to do baited into this
00:52:36.520 conversation over the weekend i happen to mention on twitter that i watched and very much enjoyed
00:52:40.200 uh for the second time the movie first man which is um actually what we watched with the older kids
00:52:45.800 who really liked it as well uh the excellent biopic about neil armstrong starring ryan gosling
00:52:51.380 and uh you know i wasn't trying to start a fight actually i just i like the movie and i and i just
00:52:57.160 wanted to say that but this brought out the moon landing deniers perhaps predictably and i responded to
00:53:02.300 one of them saying simply that i hate the moon landing conspiracy theory because it's not only
00:53:06.240 baseless but it also seeks to undermine the greatest achievement in american history and that post got
00:53:11.360 hundreds of responses and much to my chagrin though uh should not have been to my surprise
00:53:15.680 the vast majority of the comments were from people who deny that the moon landing exists in fact
00:53:21.580 i basically got ratioed on twitter for saying that the moon landing happened that's how bad things
00:53:29.020 have gotten now i'd like to think that my twitter comments are not representative of the general
00:53:32.880 public but polling says otherwise the most recent survey i've seen conducted in 2019 found that
00:53:37.560 only about 60 percent of the public strongly disagrees with the theory that the moon landing
00:53:44.200 was fake and that leaves about 40 percent who do not strongly disagree with the theory that the moon
00:53:49.760 landing is fake five percent strongly agree with the theory another six or seven percent agree with it
00:53:54.160 less strongly and the rest are at least to some degree apparently open to the idea that the moon landing
00:54:00.100 never happened and was all set up on a sound stage somewhere in hollywood i guess now the very first
00:54:09.580 thing that you should ask yourself when evaluating any conspiracy theory because there are plenty of
00:54:16.560 conspiracy theories that have turned out to be true right that doesn't mean that they're all true
00:54:20.860 though so reflexively dismissing every conspiracy theory is is very low iq but reflexively believing all of
00:54:29.140 them is also low iq and and so we want to be critical thinkers and we want to um take them on a case-by-case
00:54:35.120 basis which i think most people do so looking at a conspiracy theory very first thing you should ask
00:54:41.320 yourself is how many people would need to be involved for it to work and if the answer is that a relatively
00:54:48.320 small number of high-level powerful people would have to be involved then your theory at least has a
00:54:53.300 chance of passing the initial smell test but if the answer is that the conspiracy would necessitate
00:54:59.100 the close cooperation and secrecy of thousands of people across multiple agencies and institutions
00:55:04.740 then you're going to have to meet a very very high evidentiary bar to make your theory even slightly
00:55:11.360 credible the one thing we know about human beings in general and human beings in government
00:55:15.260 especially is that they are very bad at keeping secrets and the chance of the secret being kept
00:55:19.900 drops exponentially as you add more people to it we all understand this i mean you tell one person
00:55:24.680 a secret it's very hard to get them to keep it tell 10 people and it's extremely difficult to get
00:55:31.540 them to keep it a thousand is basically impossible so what about the fake moon landing well this would
00:55:38.540 require the coordination and absolute secrecy of the astronauts who are on these fake missions and also
00:55:44.480 everybody at mission control it would also have to either involve everybody at nasa or a portion of
00:55:50.280 people at nasa and the latter is even more incredible because that would mean that the secret was being
00:55:54.560 kept from a bunch of people at nasa by other people at nasa no matter what that's a very dubious
00:56:00.220 proposition but it goes beyond that of course knowledge of this conspiracy would have to go up the ranks in
00:56:04.140 government not everybody in the pentagon and white house had to know but some of them would have had to
00:56:08.740 know and already we have multiple governmental entities working together on this and keeping the
00:56:14.480 secret for decades without a single leak but it's not contained just to government if this was filmed
00:56:20.860 on a sound stage then the film crew sound engineers the guys who built the props the studio or company
00:56:27.560 that owned whatever sound stage they used and so on all these people would either have to be in on it
00:56:32.120 or would have to be involved without knowing that they're in on it which is even less likely so
00:56:37.380 now we have multiple government agencies and dozens if not hundreds of bureaucrats all working
00:56:41.980 together seamlessly alongside multiple civilians some of whom work in the film industry these are the
00:56:48.580 two gossipy least tight-lipped worlds in existence hollywood and government and yet after six decades
00:56:54.880 nobody in either world has ever breathed a single word about this ever but it's even more fantastical
00:57:01.660 than that you may be aware that the moon landing occurred or was fake supposedly in the middle of the
00:57:06.580 cold war and that's largely why it was faked according to the theory but the soviets were
00:57:10.720 monitoring our space program just as closely as we were monitoring theirs it's inconceivable that we
00:57:15.300 could have planned set up and executed a fake moon landing and pulled this ruse over on the public
00:57:20.420 without the soviets being fully aware of what we've done and yet they never accused us of faking the
00:57:25.240 landing the soviet union never denied the legitimacy of the landing one time in fact at this point there are
00:57:33.540 over 70 space agencies around the globe many of them have their own satellites their own probes and
00:57:38.060 telescopes and so on if the most famous space related achievement in history was completely fake
00:57:43.100 then it would seem nearly certain that at least some of the people and at least some of those other
00:57:47.380 global space agencies would know it or at least suspect it yet no accusations have ever been made by
00:57:53.020 anybody who would be in a position to actually know anything about this which means either that many
00:57:59.280 dozens or hundreds of conspirators in nasa the white house the pentagon and hollywood were so brilliant
00:58:03.900 and devious that they tricked even the soviet spies who were monitoring them along with every other
00:58:09.260 global space agency or these other agencies are in on it which brings the conspiracy to thousands of
00:58:15.180 people across dozens of countries and six decades now this is all complicated by the fact that
00:58:21.940 according to the conspiracy theorists the plot actually wasn't well executed at all according to them
00:58:27.720 nasa did a shoddy job of pulling it off made a number of extremely obvious mistakes mistakes that
00:58:33.540 that were so boneheaded that a bunch of people on twitter can easily spot them just by a cursory
00:58:39.880 glance at the photos so this was a this was a a brilliant scheme but pulled off by the most powerful
00:58:46.020 entities in human history that anyone on twitter could look at the photo for five seconds and go but
00:58:52.060 that was fake yep totally fake now we'll get to those alleged mistakes in a moment but you see the
00:58:57.220 problem here i hope in order for this theory to work the conspiracy would need to be the most 0.73
00:59:00.400 brilliant and well coordinated and devious hoax of all time and also the dumbest and clumsiest and
00:59:07.040 most obvious it would need to be both of those things simultaneously which it can't be and all of this
00:59:11.900 means that before we even look at the supposed evidence we already have a fake moon landing that is
00:59:16.180 far more complicated and difficult and implausible than actually just landing on the moon we have an
00:59:22.160 alternative theory that is by far and away more convoluted and far-fetched than the official
00:59:27.980 narrative that it seeks to debunk so occum with his razor is is spinning in his grave right now so
00:59:34.900 what is the evidence that can overcome this enormous logical deficit what proof is there that the moon
00:59:41.800 landing was fake well let's take a look at the three big pieces of evidence that the deniers offer and
00:59:47.000 that has have been all over my mentions on twitter all weekend long so first moon landing deniers point
00:59:55.700 to what they consider to be anomalies in the photographs taken on the moon and they point out
01:00:00.040 how you can't see any stars in the sky right and you should be able to because they were in space
01:00:05.040 they say that the shadows are coming in at weird angles rather than straight and parallel as they should
01:00:10.240 be if all the shadows are cast by a single light source which would be the sun they point to the picture
01:00:15.000 of the american flag appearing to wave as it stands planted in the lunar surface they say that this
01:00:19.400 makes no sense because there wouldn't have been any wind on the moon to cause the flag to wave and
01:00:24.280 and finally they say that footage of the lunar module taking off from the moon's surface is clearly fake
01:00:30.180 because there wouldn't have been any cameraman left behind to take the footage now of course all of
01:00:35.520 these points are very easily explained the flag was not waving there was a horizontal bar at the top of
01:00:40.640 the flag so there's a flag pole and then a horizontal bar with the flag unfurling underneath it and you can
01:00:47.040 see this in the picture if you look at it uh the stars aren't visible in the sky because they landed during
01:00:53.360 the lunar daytime and the moon does have day and night time you might not have known that it does and that's when
01:00:59.440 the sun's light reflects brightly off the surface making it so that you can't see the stars in the in in the
01:01:03.840 photo and as for the shadows there is absolutely absolutely nothing strange about the fact that
01:01:08.800 they come in at different angles go outside on a sunny day and take a picture and you will see exactly
01:01:14.400 the same phenomena the uneven surface the angle of the lens the perspective from where you take the
01:01:19.900 picture all will cause the shadows to appear that way again anyone could go outside right at this
01:01:27.660 very moment and confirm this point yourself and uh how did they get the footage of the lunar module
01:01:33.880 taking off well that footage is from apollo 17 not apollo 11 uh they left behind a camera that was
01:01:39.200 controlled remotely from earth and the reason why we didn't get that footage until apollo 17 is because
01:01:43.380 they tried it on two or three other moon missions and it didn't work because it's sort of difficult
01:01:47.540 to pull off a remote controlled selfie on the moon these are the easy common sense accurate
01:01:52.940 explanations for what you see in the photographs these explanations make significantly more
01:01:57.220 sense than the alternative theory okay if they were going to go through all this trouble to fake the
01:02:03.640 pictures why would they neglect to add stars to the sky like wouldn't that be the first thing you do if
01:02:09.300 you were faking a picture of outer space why would they pretend the moon has wind like the moon landing
01:02:16.240 deniers are the ones who bring up these supposed anomalies in the photos except that their theory
01:02:20.300 makes less sense of the anomalies than the story they're trying to refute because the anomalies are not
01:02:26.500 anomalies they are very easily explained and there is nothing mysterious or strange about them the
01:02:32.320 second bit of evidence presented by moon landing deniers is the existence of something called the
01:02:35.820 van allen belt which is a zone surrounding the planet inside the earth's magnetic field that contains
01:02:41.840 high levels of radiation and the deniers say that astronauts would be killed if they tried to pass
01:02:46.580 through it now this certainly would be a devastating point if it was true but it isn't the van allen belt
01:02:52.860 does exist there is radiation but the spacecraft passes through it very quickly it's going very fast
01:02:57.860 and that minimizes the radiation exposure and ultimately the amount of radiation they're exposed
01:03:01.820 to isn't much more than a couple of chest x-rays uh so it's you know you you can be exposed to
01:03:07.180 radiation without being killed uh on the spot it's just if the radiation is is uh mitigated and
01:03:13.120 minimized third and perhaps most commonly cited piece of evidence to support moon landing denialism is
01:03:18.360 that we haven't gone back um as many people have argued to me over the weekend if we really landed
01:03:23.940 on the moon then why haven't we ever gone back well the first answer is that we did we went back five
01:03:32.780 additional times so if you deny that we've landed on the moon you are actually claiming six moon hoaxes
01:03:40.280 you are saying that this whole vast conspiracy was spun up and planned and executed six times in a row
01:03:47.140 so so why didn't we keep going to the moon in reality well how many times do you think we should
01:03:52.900 have gone i mean would you find the story more credible if we went 10 times 20 times if you deny
01:03:58.780 the first six times will you suddenly believe it if we go another six times like it's completely
01:04:04.040 arbitrary well we only went six times how many times should we have gone i don't know 17
01:04:11.360 the real reason we stopped going to the moon is that it's expensive and it's complicated and it's
01:04:16.660 dangerous now it's not as complicated as pulling off a moon landing hoax six times but it's still
01:04:21.380 it's it's complicated uh people died to get the apollo program off the ground space travel is fraught
01:04:27.240 with risk and as a country we have lost the will to endure the cost and take the risk it's true that
01:04:32.080 you know if you were alive in 1970 you probably would have assumed that by the year 2024 we'd be
01:04:37.040 landing humans on the moons of jupiter right by now but just watch any scientific or any science
01:04:42.400 fiction film from the 60s and 70s to get an idea of where people thought we'd be by the 2000s
01:04:48.300 we didn't get there why well because we lost interest and we slipped into decadence and boredom
01:04:53.980 and now to top it all off iq scores are declining and people are generally becoming less competent and
01:04:58.740 less skilled in 1970 we were sending rockets to the moon that's true do you know what else we were doing
01:05:04.620 we were flying commercial supersonic passenger jets that could make it from new york to london in three
01:05:11.920 hours and if you were on one of those jets 50 years ago you would have assumed that by 2024 we'd have
01:05:18.760 the technology to go from new york to london in three minutes right instead we went the other way
01:05:24.400 the fastest passenger jet today that's operational will get you there in about seven hours okay our
01:05:31.060 technology seems to have regressed is that proof that the concord never existed does that mean that
01:05:37.440 supersonic air travel was a hoax no it just means that the supersonic air travel was again expensive
01:05:42.840 and difficult and cumbersome and it came with extra risks risks one crash of a concord jet which
01:05:50.340 eventually happened was all it took and the whole supersonic air travel industry was thrown on the
01:05:54.900 scrap pile and that is where it has stayed up until now we did not build off of it we didn't
01:06:01.040 continue in that direction we just went backwards it's a sad story it's a story of societal paralysis
01:06:05.740 and decay but it is not evidence that one of the most well-documented events in human history never
01:06:10.820 happened in fact there is no evidence that the moon landing never happened there is again
01:06:14.780 zero evidence of this elaborate cinematic hoax i said that i was responding to their evidence but
01:06:20.220 what you may have noticed about their evidence is that it is not evidence what the denialists have is a
01:06:24.860 few easily debunked qualms with the generally accepted narrative they have absolutely no positive evidence
01:06:30.960 for their own narrative not one single piece of evidence not one witness not one whistleblower with
01:06:35.620 direct knowledge of the conspiracy not one photo or video of this hoax being staged nothing they found
01:06:42.140 some holes in the moon landing story holes that are totally imaginary it turns out and inside those
01:06:46.760 holes they have stuffed this whole story that they invented out of thin air which is a problem because
01:06:53.440 the moon landing hoax theory is not just a denial of something that didn't of something that happened
01:06:59.040 right i'm not asking that you prove a negative i'm not asking you to prove we never went to the moon
01:07:03.300 no no the moon landing hoax is an assertion of an entirely different event that they claim did happen
01:07:11.760 and so what i'm saying is where is your evidence that any of that happened you have no evidence
01:07:17.460 to indicate that this event occurred none at all zero now the moon landing on the other hand has
01:07:24.320 reams and reams and reams of evidence there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of photos and
01:07:29.940 videos from the surface interviews with the astronauts who went there footage from other
01:07:33.420 lunar probes that have gone to the moon or orbited it there's even a laser reflector that was left on
01:07:38.080 the surface you can bounce a laser off of it today this is a real experiment that can be conducted
01:07:43.740 right now today to confirm that the reflector was left there now it'll take much more sophisticated
01:07:47.740 equipment than the average person has laying around but many people with the equipment have done the
01:07:53.340 experiment because it measures measures the distance between the earth and the moon at any
01:07:56.820 given time and have confirmed this are they all in on it too is has the conspiracy grown even larger
01:08:03.260 now now if all of this is not enough to believe that we landed on the moon then fine but that means
01:08:08.720 you also have to deny pretty much every historical event that has ever occurred there is more direct
01:08:14.560 evidence of the moon landing than there is of almost any event that happened prior to the mid-20th
01:08:21.220 century we have more direct evidence of the moon landing than we do that george washington existed and
01:08:28.540 yet if i claim that george washington's existence was a hoax you would expect me to present extremely
01:08:33.800 compelling direct positive evidence of the hoax and if i had none at all you would laugh in my face
01:08:41.320 and deservedly so skepticism is healthy but flatly denying a historical event in favor of a pet theory
01:08:48.140 that has infinitely less evidence to support it than the event you're denying is not skepticism it is
01:08:53.200 dogmatism which is the opposite of skepticism and that's why there is no evidence of the moon landing
01:08:59.400 that will ever convince the deniers no matter what you show them they can explain it away with some
01:09:04.620 totally ad hoc arbitrary wave of the hand photos won't convince them video won't convince them
01:09:10.420 firsthand testimony won't convince them eyewitnesses won't convince them lasers bouncing off of freaking
01:09:15.360 reflectors planted on the moon's surface won't convince them nothing will they have chosen to
01:09:20.980 deny everything ahead of time and in this case what's being denied is one of the greatest achievements
01:09:27.040 in human history an achievement claimed by americans for america the history of the west is constantly
01:09:34.420 being rewritten by bored spoiled people so as to diminish the accomplishments of our ancestors
01:09:41.120 and deny their many incredible contributions to mankind and in the end this is all part of that
01:09:48.560 agenda if there's any conspiracy going on here there it is and that is why the moon landing deniers are
01:09:57.100 with a great vengeance canceled and i'll do it for the show today thanks for watching thanks for
01:10:03.420 listening have a great day godspeed