The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 132 - It's Insane To Blame Violence On Trump's ＂Rhetoric＂

00:00:00.000 Today on the show, the media is, of course, blaming President Trump for violence, but is that fair?

00:00:05.140 What sort of rhetoric can actually be blamed for violence? We'll talk about that.

00:00:09.160 Also, we'll talk about the Megyn Kelly firing at NBC and why everyone seems to hate this woman so, so much.

00:00:15.880 Finally, as I celebrate my seventh wedding anniversary, I'll share the two most important lessons I've learned about marriage.

00:00:22.800 All of that coming up.

00:00:24.140 Well, the media and the left and Democrats, I mean, these are all the same people, of course, but they have exercised no restraint this week when it comes to blaming President Trump for the pipe bombs that have been mailed to, I think we're up to about 12 different people now at this point.

00:00:45.220 They blamed Trump. They blamed Republicans generally for the rhetoric, which allegedly has led to this.

00:00:52.380 And in fact, CNN even announced that what they had up on their screen yesterday, it said that the intended recipients of the bombs were Trump's targets.

00:01:10.660 That's the words they used, that the bomber was sending these bombs to Trump's targets.

00:01:16.280 As if Trump had contracted this person, whoever it is, to send these bombs up.

00:01:24.820 NBC ran a headline today saying, their headline was, Trump slams pipe bomb recipient CNN in overnight tweet.

00:01:34.000 Pipe bomb recipient CNN.

00:01:36.260 That's quite an interesting way to describe, to describe CNN, obviously trying to insinuate that there's something, you know, there's something reckless or something wrong with Trump criticizing CNN because someone mailed a pipe bomb to them.

00:01:50.100 I got to tell you, I don't really see the connection there.

00:01:53.620 I think it's bad that somebody mailed a pipe bomb to CNN.

00:01:56.960 I don't approve of that.

00:01:58.000 I think it's a very terrible, evil thing.

00:01:59.520 But just because that happened, that doesn't mean that now we're not allowed to criticize CNN.

00:02:04.160 What kind of a, what kind of mentality is that?

00:02:06.360 I mean, it's, it's, it's absolutely absurd, but this is what we're getting.

00:02:09.440 This is what we're getting from the media.

00:02:12.440 An MSNBC anchor yesterday insisted very directly that this culture of toxic rhetoric started with Trump.

00:02:23.020 That's what you said.

00:02:23.620 It's, he, it's, he started it.

00:02:25.320 It all began with him.

00:02:26.600 You know, the, it was a utopia before him.

00:02:29.100 Everyone agreed.

00:02:29.820 Everyone got along.

00:02:30.760 There was no disagreement and there was no toxic rhetoric.

00:02:34.860 And then Trump came along and he started all of it.

00:02:36.780 Didn't exist before him.

00:02:38.140 This is all his fault.

00:02:39.260 That's what the left is saying.

00:02:41.200 Judging by the media's reaction to the story this week, you might think if you didn't know any better, if you just dropped here from outer space and you were looking around and you were looking at the news coverage of these,

00:02:52.480 of these, um, these devices that have been, that have been sent around, you might think that this is the first example of political violence or attempt, attempted violence anyway, in years.

00:03:08.660 Um, and you might think that every example has been committed at the hands of right wingers.

00:03:14.280 Is that, that's what you would think from the way that, from, from the reaction, that's what you would probably think.

00:03:19.500 But of course you would think wrong.

00:03:22.280 Um, there are many examples we could point to of left wing violence.

00:03:29.680 And this is not what about ism.

00:03:32.080 Okay.

00:03:32.280 This is not like, uh, that's not what this is about.

00:03:36.220 Um, this is about being honest and also understanding the scope of the problem, um, and also getting an idea of, of, of how our media operates.

00:03:53.300 So let's just run through a few examples here, because the point is these, these examples I'm going to give, um, although these things happened, the media, they, the media didn't want to have any conversation about toxic rhetoric back then.

00:04:05.540 Um, they didn't blame it on the Democrats, nothing like that, even though let's just go through, let's go through.

00:04:11.280 Well, here's, here's a recent one that was, I think it was, it was in the news for about 12.5 seconds, but.

00:04:17.280 Rison was sent to president Trump and other administration officials.

00:04:20.860 This happened just a few weeks ago.

00:04:23.560 As I said, it was in the news for a very brief time and then it was forgotten.

00:04:27.360 Um, now of course, Trump was, he was never in any danger.

00:04:31.780 His mail is, is screened, of course, and there's no chance that a, that a letter containing poison is ever going to make it to Trump's desk.

00:04:40.180 Like that's not going to happen.

00:04:41.560 Right.

00:04:42.680 Um, so you might argue that, well, that's the reason why it got very little attention and it really got, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm saying this right now.

00:04:51.220 I think there are probably a lot of people watching this or listening to this that didn't even hear about it.

00:04:54.800 This might be the first time you're hearing of it, but it really did happen recently.

00:04:58.560 Someone mailed, tried to mail, uh, poison to president Trump.

00:05:02.480 And maybe the reason we'll be given for why, why it wasn't news.

00:05:05.400 Well, because it was screened out and never, it never made it anywhere near him.

00:05:08.620 You know, so it was, um, so, you know, it wasn't big news.

00:05:13.720 Okay.

00:05:14.160 But the pipe bombs were also not any threat to their targets.

00:05:19.380 Um, the people screening Barack Obama's mail or Hillary Clinton's mail, they're not going to hand them a suspicious envelope with a heavy object in the shape of a pipe bomb protruding out the sides of it.

00:05:32.560 I mean, this, whoever mailed this device, mailed it in a, in an envelope, in a suspicious envelope so that you could even see the shape of what appeared to be a pipe bomb.

00:05:42.500 Um, so there was just 0.0% chance that those envelopes were ever going to get anywhere near Obama or, uh, or Hillary or any of the other targets.

00:05:56.160 But interestingly enough, the fact that the attempt was a dud was reason enough to ignore the story in Trump's case, but not in the case of Obama's and Hillary's.

00:06:08.280 Hmm.

00:06:08.840 Um, another example, there was, um, there was an attack on the GOP at a congressional baseball game.

00:06:16.960 Hopefully you remember this and outspoken Bernie Sanders supporter went to, uh, to the game with a hit list of Republican names with a loaded gun and a hit list of Republican names.

00:06:28.660 He got to the game, you know, he saw that, um, there was some, one of the teams was out on the field practicing.

00:06:33.700 He asked somebody, which party is that, is that Republicans or Democrats out on the field?

00:06:39.460 And the person said Republicans.

00:06:40.740 And then the guy opened fire.

00:06:43.000 Uh, representative Steve Scalise was nearly killed in the assault.

00:06:46.440 So this was a politically motivated pre-planned mass assassination attempt targeting dozens of GOP lawmakers at once.

00:06:55.660 This was far more serious than the pipe bomb thing because number one, a, a, a, a, a, a politician was nearly killed in the attempt.

00:07:05.180 And these were live bullets being sprayed directly at, um, at, uh, um, you know, at GOP politicians.

00:07:18.920 But, you know, the media, they, there was never any discussion about toxic rhetoric.

00:07:24.960 MSNBC, they told us that toxic rhetoric began with Trump.

00:07:27.960 Well, then how do you explain this?

00:07:29.920 See, this had nothing to do with rhetoric, they said.

00:07:32.700 Uh, Nancy Pelosi was even asked at the time, you know, uh, do you think that the overheated rhetoric on the part of Democrats may have played a part in it?

00:07:41.740 And she was outraged.

00:07:42.820 She was indignant that anyone, anyone would even suggest such a thing.

00:07:47.540 You know, she paint, she was the victim because of that suggestion.

00:07:52.580 How dare you even suggest that?

00:07:54.620 Another example, you may remember in 2016, um, there was a mass murder of police officers at a Black Lives Matter rally in Dallas.

00:08:05.240 A murderous radical went on a rampage during a BLM protest, shot 14 police officers, killed five of them.

00:08:13.600 But the media took great pains to clarify that the killer had nothing to do with Black Lives Matter, liberals, Democrats, nothing to do with it.

00:08:22.940 Even though many prominent leftists had spent years up to that point claiming that racist, bigoted, murderous police officers are on the prowl hunting down innocent black men and executing them in broad daylight in the middle of the street.

00:08:39.060 That's what they were telling us.

00:08:40.440 Still, we were told that, uh, although people have been saying that, uh, nothing to do, nothing to do with the mass murder of police officers at a Black Lives Matter protest.

00:08:51.220 Um, and then, and then, finally, uh, well, this is just, I mean, I say finally, but just, this is just one other example I'm going to cite.

00:09:03.380 I could have cited many more, but remember the riots in Ferguson and Baltimore.

00:09:07.400 This was violence gripping the streets of Ferguson and Baltimore for days on end.

00:09:13.840 Buildings were burned to the ground.

00:09:15.340 Stores were looted.

00:09:16.440 Cars were set on fire.

00:09:17.580 Homes were vandalized.

00:09:18.800 People were, were, were assaulted by mobs.

00:09:21.180 I mean, it was a lawless chaos in the street.

00:09:23.920 And in those, in, in these, especially with Ferguson, but Baltimore too, but especially with Ferguson, which was the beginning of this trend of, of, of riots and so on, we can say without a doubt that left-wing rhetoric fueled and encouraged the violence because liberals and Democrats, people in the media, they were the ones spreading the patently false hands up, don't shoot myth, which became the rallying cry of the rioters.

00:09:51.180 It was, it was, it was the reason why there was a riot and it was a lie.

00:09:57.780 Uh, we could also talk about the various Antifa riots.

00:10:00.440 We could talk about the, you know, Republican politicians who have been accosted by mobs, chased out of restaurants and so on.

00:10:06.300 But none of these events prompted a national conversation about dangerous rhetoric.

00:10:12.120 CNN never blamed Obama for the Ferguson riots or the Dallas massacre.

00:10:16.100 Um, MSNBC never made Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters or any, or Chuck Schumer or any other Democrat answer for the shooting spree at a congressional baseball game.

00:10:25.980 Um, the media rejected the idea that anyone other than the specific perpetrators themselves could be responsible for these attacks.

00:10:34.840 And only now have they changed their mind on that.

00:10:38.560 Now they're finally saying, oh, well, actually rhetoric could be to blame.

00:10:44.080 It is, it's truly despicable.

00:10:46.160 What they're doing and we can't let them get away with it.

00:10:52.420 And unfortunately calling, calling them out and calling them out for the dishonesty.

00:10:57.440 If you do that, it's going to open you to charges of what about ism.

00:11:02.600 But I think the, the, the, the accusation of what about ism that that's one of the cheapest things that people do.

00:11:07.960 As if we're not like, if someone is making a claim and saying, well, this is the first time this has ever happened, then I'm allowed to say, well, no, actually here's some other times as well.

00:11:21.640 And if someone is saying, well, there's some, Trump is, is, is creating this unique environment of toxicity.

00:11:27.820 Well, if you're claiming that, then I don't have to just sit here and listen to that lie.

00:11:32.560 I'm going to point out, well, no, what are you talking about?

00:11:34.320 Like I can bring that up.

00:11:36.720 I don't have to just sit here and say, and, and allow you to spread that false information and that, and that propaganda.

00:11:43.060 Now, am I saying that every attack by a liberal is the fault of a, of democratic rhetoric?

00:11:49.960 No.

00:11:50.460 Am I saying that, um, any attack could be the, could be, could be entirely the fault of rhetoric?

00:11:57.220 No.

00:11:57.700 Um, but am I saying that violent attacks and rhetoric are two separate issues that have no relationship at all?

00:12:06.740 No, I'm not saying that either.

00:12:08.420 So let me tell you what I am saying on this issue of, uh, of, of rhetoric.

00:12:14.040 Let's just talk about that for a minute.

00:12:15.480 Um, first it should be stated that whenever somebody commits a violent act, the fault for that action lies completely on the shoulders of the person who committed it.

00:12:33.480 You know, of course, even the most irresponsible rhetoric in the world can't physically cause someone to go out and shoot up a baseball game or mail a pipe bomb or whatever.

00:12:43.920 So we know that, um, we can never lose sight of free will, personal agency, personal responsibility.

00:12:51.140 However, it is also absurd, I think, to pretend that our words always have zero influence and are therefore never a part of the story.

00:13:00.480 I don't think that's true either.

00:13:01.620 There is personal responsibility to go around here.

00:13:04.500 Everyone has personal responsibility and we all have to be responsible for our words.

00:13:08.900 So I do think that certain kinds of rhetoric can contribute to encourage, foment, gin up violence and unrest.

00:13:19.660 And people who engage in that kind of talk, when the violence happens, when the unrest happens, should also be given some of the blame.

00:13:28.480 The people who commit the violent actions, they get 100% of the blame.

00:13:31.720 Um, but if someone did really encourage this stuff, they also get a certain portion of blame.

00:13:41.500 So what kind of talk are we, um, are we talking about?

00:13:46.620 What kind of talk am I referring to?

00:13:47.860 What, what, what kind of talk, what kind of rhetoric could legitimately be partially blamed for violence?

00:13:54.680 Well, first of all, talk rhetoric that is incendiary and dishonest, okay?

00:14:04.200 So the problem with the hands up, don't shoot narrative is that it was untrue.

00:14:10.500 It was a lie.

00:14:12.520 It was a false narrative.

00:14:14.200 People who knew better were deliberately spreading a lie that they knew would stir up and was stirring up outrage and violence and mobs.

00:14:28.040 So do they share moral blame for the ensuing outrage and the mobs and the violence that they incurred?

00:14:33.880 Yeah, of course they do.

00:14:36.060 These were malicious lies.

00:14:38.120 So maybe that's the way I put it, a kind, a certain sort of rhetoric that can be partially blamed for violence, malicious lies.

00:14:47.460 When you're telling lies maliciously, trying to get people angry and upset.

00:14:51.900 So that was, that was the thing that was so evil and so terrible and why we should really, we should never forget about what happened with Ferguson because, because the media, they were, they were deliberately lying about what happened.

00:15:05.820 Even as city blocks were being burned to the ground, they were still lying and they still lie about it to this day.

00:15:13.460 They still won't admit that this was all based on a lie.

00:15:18.420 So yes, I blame them at the time.

00:15:21.520 I still blame them.

00:15:24.700 Also, um, rhetoric that explicitly calls upon people to engage in violence.

00:15:32.300 So obviously if you're out there telling people to do this stuff, then yes, you, you get part of the blame.

00:15:38.680 Maxine Waters told her followers to quote, create a crowd and get in the faces of Republicans and make sure they know they aren't welcome anywhere.

00:15:48.300 Um, there was a, there was a, there was a, an editor for think, think progress who's, who said that, um, that, uh, Republicans should be confronted where they sleep, which means at their homes.

00:16:02.860 He was telling angry mobs to go to people's homes.

00:16:06.320 So yes, um, in, in that case, uh, these people are very clearly directly encouraging, calling for civil unrest and violence.

00:16:20.700 And so when it happens, is it partly their fault?

00:16:24.840 Obviously they're specifically asking for it, encouraging it.

00:16:30.340 So obviously they share part of the blame.

00:16:32.520 Um, now here are some kinds of rhetoric that are sometimes blamed for violence, but in my view, cannot be blamed and do not contribute to violence.

00:16:46.020 And, uh, and, and, you know, um, people should, to, to blame it for violence is, is dishonest.

00:16:54.060 I think, um, tough, but honest rhetoric.

00:17:01.080 Okay.

00:17:01.540 If you're, if you're, if you're being tough, if you're, you know, using, um, strong language, but you're being honest and what you're saying is true, then no, I don't think you can be blamed for violence.

00:17:17.240 So I'll give it, I'll give you an example for myself.

00:17:21.600 Uh, someone wrote to me yesterday, a Democrat wrote to me, it was respect, you know, they were respectful about it, but they said, uh, they said that they, they agree with me that a lot of our, you know, the political rhetoric these days is toxic and it, uh, you know, and, and so on and so forth.

00:17:35.520 But they, they, they, they challenged me and they said, well, what about the things that you say about abortion and about abortion doctors?

00:17:42.380 You just said a couple, a couple of days ago that abortion doc, that every abortion doctor is really no different from Kermit Gosnell, that they're all murderers. 0.98

00:17:49.860 They're baby killers. 0.98

00:17:51.640 Uh, aren't you contributing to this?

00:17:55.100 And, and, and, and, and what if someone goes and they shoot up an abortion clinic, isn't that partly your fault for saying these things?

00:18:00.540 And my answer to that is, is no, it wouldn't be my fault because what I'm saying is true.

00:18:09.420 Now, clearly I don't condone, um, violence.

00:18:13.040 I, I, I don't condone anyone going to an abortion clinic and shooting it up, which is something that despite what the, how the left presented it presents it, that very, very rarely happens.

00:18:23.240 Um, there have been only a very few fatal attacks on abortion clinics over the last several decades.

00:18:30.660 It is a, it is a very rare occurrence, but I don't condone it.

00:18:34.560 Don't encourage it.

00:18:35.240 It's evil.

00:18:35.760 It's wrong.

00:18:36.860 Um, yet on occasion it does happen.

00:18:41.900 Does that mean that I should stop saying that abortionists are baby killers?

00:18:45.060 No, because it's true.

00:18:47.580 Okay. 0.96

00:18:48.260 They're, they're killing babies. 1.00

00:18:50.460 Uh, it's not my fault.

00:18:51.740 They're killing.

00:18:52.080 I wish they wouldn't.

00:18:53.780 That's my whole point.

00:18:54.780 I want them to stop doing it, but they do it.

00:18:58.140 And I don't have any obligation to ignore this horrible reality.

00:19:02.400 Uh, because if I point out the horrible reality, it may encourage a crazy person to go and do something, do something violent.

00:19:09.760 No, that's no, that's, that's not how that works.

00:19:13.500 Just like, um, Larry Nassar or, or Bill Cosby, if they get assaulted in prison, um,

00:19:21.920 is it going to be the fault of all the people who pointed out that these people are despicable 0.94

00:19:28.320 rapists? 0.99

00:19:28.820 You know, if I go around saying that, uh, Bill, Bill Cosby is a serial rapist, Larry Nassar is 1.00

00:19:35.160 a serial child molester, and then someone goes and, and assaults these guys or kills them in prison. 0.99

00:19:40.100 Is that my fault?

00:19:40.920 Because I said that no, because it's true. 1.00

00:19:43.840 They are serial rapists. 0.98

00:19:45.500 Um, so it can't be my fault. 1.00

00:19:49.140 Uh, uh, abortion doctors are serial killers. 1.00

00:19:55.340 I'm not going to tone that down. 0.91

00:19:56.900 I don't apologize for saying it because it is true.

00:20:00.940 And my, my, my recommendation to abortion doctors is if you don't want to be called baby killers,

00:20:07.340 stop killing babies. 0.96

00:20:09.960 That's what you could do. 0.99

00:20:11.100 But as long as you do it, that's what I'm going to call you.

00:20:14.780 Um, I also don't think that we can blame just general partisan rhetoric for violence.

00:20:20.320 You know, um, that's part of politics.

00:20:24.160 A lot of it isn't good.

00:20:25.340 I don't like a lot of it, but, but that's just, it's always been that way.

00:20:28.060 That's how politics is.

00:20:29.080 Uh, so I just don't think that if there's an explosion of violence or something, I don't

00:20:33.680 think we can blame partisanship in general.

00:20:36.540 And then generally just obnoxious rhetoric.

00:20:39.680 Okay.

00:20:40.400 Um, there are plenty, plenty of people who say insulting, obnoxious things.

00:20:43.540 It's not good.

00:20:44.680 We shouldn't do that.

00:20:46.040 But that kind of thing is, I don't think you can blame that for violence either.

00:20:50.900 I think again, the, the rhetoric that we blame for violence is the rhetoric that explicitly

00:20:54.960 encourages it.

00:20:57.000 Um, or the, the rhetoric that is dishonest, that is maliciously dishonest.

00:21:02.440 And clearly intended to get the crowd stirred up and, um, and all that.

00:21:12.140 All right.

00:21:13.060 Um, switching gears here for a minute.

00:21:15.640 I wanted to also talk about, uh, I want to say something briefly about this, this Megan

00:21:22.860 Kelly situation.

00:21:23.660 Um, the news is that Megan Kelly is done at NBC, uh, they're negotiating her exit right

00:21:30.180 now.

00:21:30.700 The excuse they're using, it seems, um, the catalyst for this, according to NBC are her

00:21:37.320 comments about blackface on her show this week.

00:21:41.640 Now, let me just say that this is, this is farcical.

00:21:46.260 Um, and, and, and first of all, general comments, I, I, you know, general comment here, but I

00:21:53.740 think Megan Kelly is the most unfairly maligned person in all of media. 1.00

00:21:58.800 She's hated on, on both sides with an intensity that is just weird and, and kind of grotesque.

00:22:08.340 There's no reason for people to despise this woman the way they do.

00:22:11.980 So every Megan Kelly controversy, every excuse people have used to dump on her has been laughably

00:22:18.480 weak in my opinion.

00:22:19.860 I mean, going back, I remember years ago, the first one I can, I can remember that I can

00:22:23.920 think of is a years ago when she said that Santa Claus is white and this became this huge

00:22:29.960 thing that everyone was outraged about. 0.99

00:22:32.340 It was ridiculous. 0.99

00:22:33.960 And ever since then, it seems that people are looking to rip this woman to shreds for any 0.99

00:22:38.680 reason they can find.

00:22:40.680 And, uh, and it just seems unfair to me.

00:22:46.160 There was the, what was the thing about the, one of the, one of the first controversies on

00:22:49.260 our new show where she, she was interviewing Jane Fonda and she, uh, but she asked her something

00:22:54.200 about her plastic surgery or something like that.

00:22:57.460 Um, Megan Kelly asked Jane Fonda about something that Jane Fonda has spoken about regularly publicly,

00:23:05.480 but all of a sudden she was supposed to know it's off limits.

00:23:08.820 You're not allowed to ask me that anymore.

00:23:10.380 And everyone dumped on her for that. 1.00

00:23:11.660 So it's, it's, um, I don't know.

00:23:14.600 It seems like there's, there, there may be a bit of envy at work here. 0.97

00:23:17.560 Um, I can't otherwise explain the ridiculous hatred for this woman. 0.99

00:23:24.040 There are a lot of very unlikable people in media. 0.96

00:23:27.480 Okay.

00:23:28.200 I, I, I, I fully agree with that.

00:23:30.480 There are a lot of people in media who are, who you just viscerally are, are unlikable.

00:23:36.760 I don't think Megan Kelly makes even a top 50 list in that regard.

00:23:41.600 And as to this particular controversy over her Halloween costumes, it seems we have somehow

00:23:46.100 managed to enter a new level of PC insanity.

00:23:49.740 You know, we, we, we, we keep thinking that it's gotten as bad as it could possibly get.

00:23:53.960 And then it gets even, it gets, it gets even worse yet again.

00:23:57.520 I mean, that she would lose her job over this or partly over this or ostensibly over this

00:24:04.900 is, is preposterous.

00:24:08.560 There is nothing wrong with what she said. 0.80

00:24:11.060 All she said was that a white person may sometimes dress up like a black person for Halloween or 0.80

00:24:17.360 something as a tribute, not to mock black people.

00:24:20.320 That's the point she was trying to make is that, yes, there is, there's, there are, you

00:24:25.040 know, examples in history of people wearing so-called blackface, um, to mock and demean.

00:24:32.720 But she said, well, what if in the year 2018, somebody, a white person wants to dress as someone

00:24:39.120 from a different ethnicity, culture, race, um, but, but, you know, out of affection to pay tribute.

00:24:45.520 What's wrong with that?

00:24:48.340 Now you could disagree.

00:24:50.320 You could strongly disagree, but to act like her comments were somehow delusional or completely

00:24:56.680 beyond the pale or, or fueled by blind racial hatred.

00:25:01.420 Well, that's, that's, that is a, that is a gross and willful misconstrual of what she said.

00:25:08.280 I know people never think about this.

00:25:10.340 Uh, you know, they, they never put themselves in the shoes of the person being ganged up

00:25:15.100 on by the faux outrage mob, but maybe they should, because I'll tell you, if this is enough

00:25:20.680 to destroy a career, if this comment about Halloween costumes is now enough, if an innocent,

00:25:28.880 innocuous opinion about Halloween costumes can now destroy a career.

00:25:34.220 Well, then who knows?

00:25:37.260 You could be next.

00:25:38.560 If this is enough and you agree with this, then you are helping to set a precedent that

00:25:45.540 you're not going to like when it's turned around on you.

00:25:48.240 And if you're cheering this on, then when the mob does come for you over some innocuous,

00:25:54.260 innocent thing that you said, and the mob destroys you and your life and your career,

00:26:00.000 well, then you know something?

00:26:00.860 You'll deserve it.

00:26:02.660 You will deserve it when it happens to you.

00:26:06.760 The people acting like Megyn Kelly really deserves to lose her job over an opinion about a Halloween 1.00

00:26:13.140 costume, that every single one of them, if it ever happens to them, they will deserve it.

00:26:18.340 If you join in the mob dishonestly to take someone's livelihood from them and their job for a reason

00:26:31.740 that you know is completely bogus, then one of these days when the mob turns around on you,

00:26:36.540 you will absolutely deserve it.

00:26:37.900 Final thing I want to mention, getting away from the news for a minute, Monday is my seventh anniversary with my wife.

00:26:50.800 Seven years, I realize, is not quite long enough to go into wise, sage mode and start doling out marital advice.

00:27:00.120 I think you have to hit probably the quarter century mark for that, so I'm pretty far away from it still.

00:27:06.680 Well, I think, actually, I think quarter century or when your first kid graduates high school.

00:27:12.920 I think when that, whichever comes first, that's when you can start being the wise sage and doling out advice.

00:27:17.540 So I'm not there. I'm not even close to that.

00:27:20.260 But I have learned a couple of things through seven years and three kids.

00:27:23.680 And I thought that maybe I could mark this occasion by passing on just the top two things that I've learned about marriage in seven years.

00:27:32.420 And so if you've been married a while, if you've been married longer than me, then there's no need to listen to this.

00:27:36.760 You can just turn it off and stop listening.

00:27:37.900 This is advice or insights that I intend only for those who haven't been married at all or haven't been married very long because they can't disagree with me.

00:27:49.820 They just have to accept whatever I'm saying and assume I'm right.

00:27:54.200 All right. So two things that I've learned.

00:27:56.680 I think I've learned probably more than two things, but I'll give you two.

00:27:59.940 The top two, the most important two.

00:28:01.440 Number one, the first thing that I've learned about marriage in seven years, probably the most important, is that women love pillows. 1.00

00:28:18.700 Women love pillows so much. 1.00

00:28:23.680 And if you're a guy and haven't been married yet, you just don't understand it.

00:28:26.820 You don't understand how much women love pillows. 1.00

00:28:29.480 I have so many pillows in my house, so many pillows.

00:28:33.900 Our bed is covered in pillows.

00:28:35.460 Our couch pillows are everywhere.

00:28:37.640 We are drowning in pillows.

00:28:39.460 And now my daughter, five years old, she's picked up the pillow addiction as well.

00:28:44.020 You know, there's a switch that flips in the female brain at some point very early where all of a sudden they become pillow obsessed. 0.99

00:28:49.820 I don't even know where my daughter gets her pillows. 1.00

00:28:52.040 I'm not sure who her pillow supplier is, but she has 19 pillows on her bed.

00:28:56.300 But she's, you know, she's already gone down the route of her mother. 0.94

00:29:00.480 And here's the thing.

00:29:02.560 Many of these pillows are not to be used.

00:29:06.080 They are decorative pillows.

00:29:08.320 Decorative pillows.

00:29:09.720 A pillow that sits on a bed or a couch for no reason and has no function.

00:29:16.200 Think about it.

00:29:17.080 Decorative pillow on your bed that nobody will see besides you.

00:29:22.800 So my wife puts pillows on our bed that are only there for her to look at for 10 seconds before she takes them off the bed so that we can go to bed. 1.00

00:29:33.820 This is, you know, the decorative pillow industry is 100% driven by females. 1.00

00:29:38.780 If every woman on Earth was beamed into space by aliens tomorrow, the decorative pillow industry, along with the wrapping paper industry and the Greek yogurt industry and the fancy soap industry, they would all collapse overnight because this is completely a female thing. 1.00

00:29:53.420 There's something biological, neurological about it.

00:29:56.360 I don't understand it, but it's a female thing. 1.00

00:29:58.820 So we've been drowning in pillows because women love pillows. 1.00

00:30:01.580 When I lived alone as a bachelor for five years, I had one pillow to my name, just one.

00:30:10.840 And I used it on the couch and then I brought it to bed at night.

00:30:14.920 That was my one.

00:30:15.540 That was my.

00:30:16.420 I could have said to you, well, here's my pillow because I just had one.

00:30:22.180 And me and that pillow, we had a bond.

00:30:24.120 It was me and my pillow against the world.

00:30:26.020 I didn't need any more pillows.

00:30:28.200 You know, I had the one pillow.

00:30:29.460 But then I got married and at some point very early on, probably like in the first week of our marriage, my wife apparently rented a dump truck and went to the home goods distribution center and bought every single decorative pillow in the region. 0.64

00:30:43.260 And then came and dumped them into our house.

00:30:47.000 And my life has been overtaken by pillows ever since.

00:30:49.760 So that's the first thing, especially if you're a man, really, this is advice from getting married, just realize that your life will be overtaken by pillows and never, ever, ever assume that you're actually allowed to use any of those pillows.

00:31:03.580 Second thing I've learned, perhaps on a more serious note, I've learned in marriage, and I know that this is, you know, this will not sound like a revelation and it's really not, but I have learned the necessity of gratitude.

00:31:22.960 Gratitude, I think most people, when you ask them what's the most important character trait to bring into a marriage, you know, they'll say patience, they'll say loyalty, they'll say honesty, and those are all very important.

00:31:36.600 But I think that gratitude can make an argument for belonging next to the big three of fidelity, honesty, and patience.

00:31:44.300 I think really it's a big four, because I think you've got to put gratitude there.

00:31:47.480 I think gratitude is just as important as those.

00:31:52.960 And I think more marriages than we realize have been destroyed for lack of gratitude.

00:31:59.540 I mean, there could be a marriage where both spouses are faithful, honest, even patient, but there's no gratitude, and it ruins the marriage.

00:32:14.020 The thing is, as everyone says, marriage is work.

00:32:18.060 And it does require sacrifice.

00:32:20.060 It requires you to serve the other person.

00:32:22.960 To care for the other.

00:32:23.840 But when you begin to feel that the other person doesn't notice what you're doing, doesn't care, doesn't appreciate, isn't grateful, and when that feeling really metastasizes onto the marriage like a cancer, it can be fatal for the marriage.

00:32:44.360 And I think this is especially the case once kids are involved, because the thing about kids is that they require a lot of work and a lot of sacrifice, and yet they will never be grateful.

00:32:55.720 That's the thing about kids.

00:32:56.960 They will never, ever be grateful.

00:32:58.240 Yes, you teach them to say please and thank you, but they will simply never understand.

00:33:04.560 As long as they are children, they will never understand what you do for them, how hard you work for them, how many sacrifices you make for them.

00:33:12.800 They will never understand the anxiety and the heartbreak and the worry and the stress and everything.

00:33:18.000 They will, they can't, they're not capable of understanding it.

00:33:20.460 They won't understand it.

00:33:22.220 And that is actually part of what parents do.

00:33:24.680 Part of the burden we carry for our kids is that, is that we, you know, we shoulder these burdens so that our kids can just skip merrily through life, not realizing that really any of it is happening.

00:33:38.880 Um, and that's, and that's what being a kid is all about.

00:33:42.640 That's what being a kid is supposed to be about.

00:33:45.380 And they're just, so they, they can't be really grateful for us because they don't understand what we do.

00:33:52.120 And they're not going to understand it until years down the line when they have kids of their own.

00:33:56.320 And then they realize that, oh yeah, um, right.

00:33:59.340 So parents, especially mothers, I'll say, get used to expending all of this energy, doing so much for their kids and with very little appreciation.

00:34:09.820 And, and that's why it's even more important once kids are on the scene for spouses to appreciate each other.

00:34:14.860 Um, and you know, I'll say in my situation, my wife stays at home with the kids and I know that I have to make sure that my wife knows that I appreciate what she does.

00:34:29.340 Because it's hard work being a mom, it's emotionally draining, it's physically taxing. 0.86

00:34:33.680 And, um, uh, and aside from my wife, my, you know, aside from my wife herself, I'm the only other person in the family capable of understanding what she does.

00:34:45.860 And the burden she carries and therefore being truly grateful for what, for it.

00:34:51.080 The kids aren't going to understand it.

00:34:52.420 The dog and the cat aren't going to understand.

00:34:53.740 So I'm the only other one that can.

00:34:57.040 So that's why it's so important for me to be grateful.

00:34:58.760 Though I know that I, I still, uh, uh, could stand to improve quite a bit in the gratitude department or at least in the expressed gratitude department.

00:35:08.140 I'm always eternally grateful for my wife, but part of my job as a husband and father is to express that, um, gratitude, to show it even more importantly and to communicate it in somehow.

00:35:19.100 And it's also, of course, important for husbands to be appreciated too.

00:35:24.060 Um, fortunately I, I do feel appreciated in my family, but, um, my wife does communicate her appreciation.

00:35:28.660 But, but I know that there are, there are, there are many families where that's not the case.

00:35:32.220 I talk to men who feel, talk to men all the time who feel like they go to work, they slave 0.98

00:35:38.100 away in a thankless job to provide for their families.

00:35:40.920 They come home and they're immediately thrust back into the father role, which is okay.

00:35:45.860 That's, that's how it goes.

00:35:46.780 Right.

00:35:47.000 Um, but they get very few breaks.

00:35:49.600 They get little rest.

00:35:51.000 Um, they always have the weight of providing and protecting on their minds, on their shoulders, weighing on their souls.

00:35:56.780 And yet, and yet, you know, some men feel that their wives take all of that completely for granted.

00:36:03.800 Never express any gratitude, never appear to appreciate any of it.

00:36:09.680 That's how some men feel.

00:36:12.440 And this again is deadly for a marriage.

00:36:14.700 Um, the wives of those men, they don't realize what they're doing to their marriage and what 1.00

00:36:21.100 they're doing to their husband.

00:36:22.100 They don't realize that their marriage is on life support because their lack of warmth and

00:36:27.200 their lack of affection and their lack of gratitude has turned their husbands into shells.

00:36:36.020 Um, and there are plenty of husbands who don't realize the same about their wives.

00:36:40.620 And I, and I also think that, uh, that this is what, um, you know, when we talk about this

00:36:46.300 destroying a marriage, one of the ways that this destroys a marriage is, uh, that this can

00:36:51.620 be a contributor to adultery.

00:36:53.580 Though, of course, again, you know, someone, someone commits adultery that the blame for

00:36:57.880 that is entirely on them.

00:36:59.740 Uh, there's never an excuse for that, but, but the reality is we're human beings and, you

00:37:05.440 know, we have, we have, there are, there are always motivations and reasons behind our

00:37:09.220 actions.

00:37:09.460 So someone who commits adultery, there's always going to be some, some, some things

00:37:13.280 contributing to it and motivating it.

00:37:14.920 And I think a lack of gratitude can, can be a big contributor to that because I could

00:37:19.520 tell you, I tell you what happens.

00:37:20.460 Like for the case of a man, um, doesn't feel appreciated.

00:37:23.860 Doesn't feel like his wife really cares.

00:37:25.780 Uh, doesn't feel the affection, the warmth from his wife.

00:37:29.500 And, you know, he's go, he lives like that for years.

00:37:32.960 Um, and then he, you know, meets somebody at work who seems to really appreciate his skills

00:37:41.540 and his talent and seems to take him seriously and, uh, seems to take an interest.

00:37:49.280 And he starts to think, well, I don't get this at home.

00:37:52.480 And then now you have the seeds of something very, very dangerous for the marriage.

00:37:56.780 And I think the exact same thing can happen, uh, for women who don't feel appreciated.

00:38:02.640 And then they meet a man who, oh, wow, this man notices me.

00:38:07.240 He seems to appreciate my presence and my existence and all of that.

00:38:13.960 So gratitude is very important.

00:38:16.560 And, um, and let me just say one more thing about marriage, because I don't want, I don't 0.94

00:38:24.300 want to wrap this up without saying this.

00:38:25.440 I think it's important that, um, that, you know, I love, I love being married.

00:38:29.860 I think being married is great.

00:38:31.380 I really enjoy it.

00:38:32.600 I love, I, I, I, I have been single and lived by myself and I've been married.

00:38:38.880 Um, I was single, lived by myself for five years, married for seven.

00:38:42.000 So, you know, so far kind of an even sort of even between the two I can, and I can weigh

00:38:46.920 them and I can say, I so much prefer being married over that so much prefer.

00:38:52.760 And I just think it's important for us to say this because, because so often when we

00:38:56.380 talk about marriage, um, we talk about the challenges, we say it's a lot of work.

00:39:02.360 We say all the things that I just said, but I think, and it's important to say these things

00:39:06.680 because it's true.

00:39:07.500 Marriage is work.

00:39:08.100 But I think people who aren't married, they listen to this and they, and to them, it sounds

00:39:12.400 like, wow, marriage sounds kind of miserable.

00:39:14.300 Like all it does, what all it is, is work and sacrifice.

00:39:17.320 Is there any joy in it?

00:39:20.520 And so I just want to say, yes, there's a lot of joy and it's great to be married.

00:39:25.140 And I, I highly, I recommend it to anyone.

00:39:27.740 I highly recommend it.

00:39:28.840 Um, there has never been a moment I can say, honestly, there's never, in seven years, I

00:39:36.760 have not ever for a moment wished that I was still single.

00:39:40.040 I travel a lot for work.

00:39:41.520 I go out and I, I speak, uh, around the country.

00:39:43.880 And so I get, I guess you could say more time to myself than, uh, than a lot of married people

00:39:50.980 do because when I travel, it just, it, most of the time it doesn't work to, to bring all

00:39:55.100 the whole family with me to go speak at a fundraising banquets and so forth.

00:39:58.740 So, and, and, you know, so I'm out on my own and I'm traveling and people will ask me, say,

00:40:03.480 well, you know, that, that might, that must be, you must really enjoy that.

00:40:05.700 Get time to yourself, go away from the family.

00:40:07.600 And I say, yeah, you know, it's, it's, it's nice to get a little time to yourself on occasion,

00:40:11.080 but, but no, every single time, whenever I go, whenever I go travel, I always wish that

00:40:15.700 my family was with me.

00:40:17.160 There's never a night that goes by when I'm traveling where I don't think to myself, wow, I wish

00:40:20.920 I had my family here.

00:40:22.200 So I highly recommend it.

00:40:25.100 Don't be fooled into thinking that marriage is nothing but, but work.

00:40:27.860 It is work, but there's a lot of joy to be found in the work.

00:40:32.820 And I think in my experience, all true joy in life comes from work.

00:40:36.840 So that's it.

00:40:37.960 That's the end of my, uh, of my fortune cookie reading for today.

00:40:42.020 Have a great weekend, everybody.

00:40:43.220 I'll talk to you next week.

00:40:44.400 Godspeed.

00:40:55.100 Godspeed.

00:40:55.920 Godspeed.

00:40:56.520 Godspeed.

00:40:57.100 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - October 26, 2018

Ep. 132 - It's Insane To Blame Violence On Trump's ＂Rhetoric＂

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