The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1348 - Activists Who Shut Down Highways Aren't 'Protesters.' They're Terrorists.

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, pro-Hamas demonstrators shut down major highways and bridges across the country.

00:00:05.240 This is not a protest. It's called terrorism.

00:00:07.700 Also, Trump's trial in New York is underway, and after just the first day of the proceedings,

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00:00:15.960 Plus, controversy erupts at a Christian men's conference after somehow, for some reason,

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00:01:47.380 The first target in any protracted military campaign is pretty much always infrastructure.

00:01:52.280 When the U.S. invaded Iraq with a shock and awe strategy, we hit the bridges right away.

00:01:56.780 We did the same thing in Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Korea.

00:02:00.360 And the reason for that is pretty simple.

00:02:01.940 If you shut down transportation, you shut down the country.

00:02:05.060 The purpose of taking out bridges and airports isn't to convince anyone that you're right.

00:02:09.360 It's not a moral argument.

00:02:10.600 The point is to disable your enemy as quickly as possible and to make them vulnerable to further attack.

00:02:15.840 And after what happened yesterday, it's clear that the domestic enemies of the United States,

00:02:19.460 the ones we've imported and that our universities have indoctrinated,

00:02:23.100 understand the importance of infrastructure very well.

00:02:25.800 In a series of coordinated attacks, Hamas sympathizers stormed bridges and airports all over the country.

00:02:30.660 And I'm going to go through several of these attacks,

00:02:32.940 and I'll start with by far the most significant and the longest lasting interruption.

00:02:36.740 It took place on both the Golden Gate Bridge and Interstate 880 in Oakland.

00:02:41.860 Watch.

00:02:42.200 Another protest turned the morning commute into a parking lot,

00:02:47.080 leaving many drivers angry and asking what will stop these from happening.

00:02:51.460 Outside of a ceasefire in Gaza,

00:02:53.420 what can be done to prevent major traffic arteries from getting shut down for hours?

00:02:58.480 It has been actions such as these that people have been taking across the world

00:03:06.260 that have actually been moving the needle. 0.92

00:03:09.880 Woods Irvin wasn't involved in today's protest,

00:03:12.760 but was one of the demonstrators who shut down the Bay Bridge in November.

00:03:16.920 Hospitals say in that case, several organ donations were delayed because of the backup.

00:03:21.780 78 people were arrested and charged, but all avoided jail time,

00:03:26.820 agreeing to the court's diversion program,

00:03:28.760 where they would have to complete five hours of community service each.

00:03:32.380 So just a month ago, activists shut down the Bay Bridge,

00:03:36.340 and as you just heard, they delayed several organ donations.

00:03:39.420 The San Francisco Chronicle reported that at least one person had a medical emergency

00:03:43.960 while he was stuck in traffic, but nothing happened to any of the people responsible for that.

00:03:48.200 They got something like five hours of community service.

00:03:50.980 So yesterday, it happened again, and this time on the Golden Gate Bridge in the interstate.

00:03:56.100 News reports like the one you just saw always say that protesters are shutting down traffic,

00:04:00.160 and that is accurate, but it only tells part of the story.

00:04:03.580 The other part is that the political leaders in these cities are also choosing to shut down traffic

00:04:08.560 by allowing the protesters to do this.

00:04:11.700 Now, it would be exceedingly easy to not only clear these blockades,

00:04:16.200 but also dissuade anyone else from ever pulling a stunt like this again.

00:04:19.520 All you have to do is pull them off the road by force,

00:04:22.780 and then hit them with every criminal charge even vaguely applicable, including terrorism charges.

00:04:29.560 Just throw the whole book, the entire book, at just one of these people.

00:04:34.440 Or a lot more than one would be my preference, but just one is all it would take.

00:04:38.260 One person, one time, and it will never happen again.

00:04:42.240 Give one of them prison time, real prison time, like 15 years of prison time,

00:04:46.280 and the problem is solved forever, just like that.

00:04:49.720 Nobody will ever shut down a road in this country ever again.

00:04:54.840 Instead, the authorities in California are doing the opposite.

00:04:58.180 They gave these criminals a few hours of community service the last time they did it,

00:05:02.240 and this time they let them shut down one of the longest bridges in the country

00:05:06.560 for five hours before making a single arrest.

00:05:12.940 I mean, why wait five hours if you're going to make the arrest anyway?

00:05:15.300 Why not do it in five minutes?

00:05:18.300 Why not do it in 60 seconds?

00:05:21.840 All told, 38 people were ultimately arrested between the Golden Gate Bridge

00:05:25.480 and the Oakland Interstate, and they were hit with a variety of charges,

00:05:28.220 from false imprisonment to unlawful assembly.

00:05:32.140 None of these charges, it's important to point out,

00:05:34.620 carry a potential sentence of over a decade in prison.

00:05:38.000 Because that kind of penalty in this country is now reserved for pro-life demonstrators 0.96

00:05:43.000 who pray outside of abortion clinics and allegedly block access to the abortion facility.

00:05:48.620 Now, if you do that, as we've seen, you get the pre-dawn SWAT team raid from the DOJ,

00:05:54.060 and a very good chance that you spend the next 10 years in prison.

00:05:57.120 But if you sit on the highway for five hours and prevent thousands of people from getting where they need to go,

00:06:03.620 then that's not a big deal, apparently.

00:06:06.500 In fact, false imprisonment is the most serious charge that any of these demonstrators face,

00:06:12.220 and the max you can get for that in California is something like four years.

00:06:15.060 And of course, it's virtually certain that they're not going to serve that time of four years

00:06:20.220 or even go to trial for any of this.

00:06:22.380 They'll get community service, probably, and then they'll be out doing the same thing again

00:06:26.920 a month from now or two months from now.

00:06:28.760 And that's odd, even by the Biden administration's own logic,

00:06:33.860 because for all we know, there might have been people on these roads who were headed to get abortions.

00:06:39.520 Imagine that.

00:06:40.580 And they were delayed or even blocked from doing so.

00:06:44.500 Will the DOJ look into the number of Californians who had to reschedule their abortions yesterday

00:06:48.560 because their bridge was illegally shut down?

00:06:51.800 Think of how many children might still be alive because of these protesters.

00:06:54.820 Think about how many opportunities to murder babies were squandered.

00:06:59.780 That's the kind of thing that normally keeps Merrick Garland up at night.

00:07:04.080 Now, if pro-lifers deserve a decade in prison for mildly inconveniencing people

00:07:09.680 who are trying to access one abortion clinic in Nashville,

00:07:13.100 then that means that these people deserve a century in prison.

00:07:18.860 But of course, they're on the left, so they can literally do whatever they want all the time.

00:07:22.900 Logic doesn't really apply.

00:07:25.760 There will be no DOJ probe into the organizers of this protest.

00:07:28.820 There will be no RICO case against them.

00:07:31.760 Yet increasingly, it's clear that there should be.

00:07:34.060 According to San Francisco's local news station, KRON,

00:07:37.500 a woman named Ellen Caminiti was one of the organizers of the Golden Gate protest yesterday. 0.73

00:07:42.660 She was apparently off-site serving as a representative.

00:07:45.660 And I looked her up, and it turns out that she's the communications director

00:07:51.560 at a nonprofit called the National Center for Lesbian Rights, or NCLR. 1.00

00:07:56.760 So this is an organization that gets tax breaks to advance lesbian rights. 1.00

00:08:01.120 And at 9 a.m. on Monday, their communications director

00:08:03.840 was organizing a criminal blockade of one of the most important bridges in the country.

00:08:08.760 Now, one of my producers reached out to Ellen Caminiti about this,

00:08:12.360 and she said, quote,

00:08:13.560 NCLR had no role in it.

00:08:15.340 That is just my day job, which is completely separate from this.

00:08:19.980 Now, what's confusing about that, again, is that, you know, she says it was her day job.

00:08:25.080 Well, this blockade took place first thing Monday morning,

00:08:29.200 which counts, you would think, as during the day.

00:08:32.480 So it sounds like Ellen Caminiti's day job is shutting down infrastructure in San Francisco 1.00

00:08:37.680 in the name of Palestinian solidarity.

00:08:40.540 We followed up with NCLR to ask them about this,

00:08:42.800 and we wanted to know if they had any reaction whatsoever

00:08:45.100 to their employee assisting in a criminal blockade during the workday.

00:08:49.700 They didn't respond to that question, not surprisingly.

00:08:52.020 All they said is that they had nothing to do with the blockade.

00:08:55.920 Now, you'd think that if NCLR disagreed with what their employee did during work hours,

00:09:00.960 they would fire her immediately. 0.76

00:09:03.640 At the very least, they would condemn what she did,

00:09:06.140 especially given that she did it on behalf of Hamas,

00:09:10.200 which is a group that would happily toss everyone in their organization off of a rooftop.

00:09:14.960 But no such luck.

00:09:16.420 That's because NCLR, like many so-called left-wing public interest nonprofits,

00:09:21.560 isn't really working in the public interest at all, of course.

00:09:24.660 It's a tax shelter that employs unhinged activists who want to destroy this country. 0.99

00:09:28.500 They should lose their tax-exempt nonprofit status immediately.

00:09:32.820 Nonprofits aren't supposed to have anything remotely to do with criminal activity,

00:09:36.620 and it definitely sounds like, at a minimum, they're tacitly endorsing exactly that.

00:09:41.420 But of course, you know, there's not going to be any DOJ investigation,

00:09:44.580 at least not under the Biden administration,

00:09:47.040 because the Biden administration wants these kinds of blockades to occur.

00:09:51.080 That's why they took place all day yesterday, all over the country.

00:09:54.300 In Seattle, demonstrators blocked access to the airport, forcing travelers to walk to the terminal.

00:10:00.940 In New York, they stormed the Brooklyn Bridge.

00:10:03.400 In Chicago, they blocked the highway leading to O'Hare Airport.

00:10:06.900 In Dearborn, Michigan, a caravan of Hamas sympathizers backed up traffic.

00:10:10.140 In Fremont, California, they attacked a Tesla production facility,

00:10:13.020 apparently because of Elon Musk's tweets that they were upset about,

00:10:16.600 forcing the plant to declare an emergency and close.

00:10:18.680 Now, in all of these cases, except for the situation in Fremont,

00:10:22.940 there wasn't much of a police response, at least not initially.

00:10:27.360 In Seattle, officers eventually arrested the people blockading the roadway.

00:10:31.500 Julio Rosas reports that on the Brooklyn Bridge,

00:10:34.040 the NYPD made an effort to stop the demonstrators and succeeded in stopping about half of them,

00:10:39.260 but traffic was still disrupted.

00:10:41.260 As far as I could tell, the only decisive reaction to these riots took place,

00:10:45.060 not surprisingly, in Florida, in Miami, Florida specifically,

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00:11:44.280 What's...

00:11:44.780 Huh. Well, look at that. The police just dragged them away. That's it. It's not hard.

00:11:59.620 Takes a few minutes, and that's it. Problem solved, and the whole city isn't held hostage

00:12:04.620 by a handful of terrorists. Just throw them in jail and make an example of them. Governor Ron 0.89

00:12:09.720 DeSantis' communications director uploaded the footage you just saw along with this message,

00:12:14.220 quote, in Florida, we drag these people out of the road and arrest them,

00:12:18.300 which is obviously the right response, as rare as it may be. And when police don't do this

00:12:25.160 immediately, then citizens have every right to do it themselves. I mean, every moral right to do it

00:12:29.420 themselves. As Senator Tom Cotton put it, quote, I encourage people who get stuck behind the pro-Hamas 1.00

00:12:34.120 mobs blocking traffic, take matters into your own hands to get them out of the way. It's time to put 1.00

00:12:38.700 an end to this nonsense. Now, of course, morally, to stipulate morally, you have every right

00:12:45.680 to do that. The problem with what Tom Cotton said, and the problem with him encouraging people to do

00:12:51.040 that, is that if somebody does take matters into their own hands, even though they are totally

00:12:55.960 morally justified in doing so, if they do, there's a very good chance we all know they'll spend the rest

00:13:01.360 of their life in prison. Okay, we've seen people that clearly, I mean, look at the Daniel Penny

00:13:09.700 situation. We've seen people clearly acting in self-defense, in defense of the community,

00:13:14.200 against individuals who are violent and erratic, and they either go to prison or the court tries

00:13:22.180 to put them in prison. So imagine something like this in this situation. Well, the Biden DOJ will

00:13:29.560 destroy whoever tries to do that. They'll do nothing to protect innocent people from these

00:13:34.100 terrorists. But the moment someone tries to take action, even if it's morally justified,

00:13:38.900 then the feds will hunt them down. It's almost like that's what the Biden administration wants

00:13:43.960 to happen at this point. It's almost like that's exactly why they aren't enforcing the law here,

00:13:49.840 why they are allowing these terrorists to do this. It appears to be what they want in New York.

00:13:55.420 Yesterday, police officers didn't have much of a reaction when a Hamas sympathizer lit an American

00:13:59.420 flag on fire and shouted, death to America, right in front of about five cops. He just did that

00:14:05.420 and walked away casually. Watch.

00:14:07.640 Oh, shit! Yeah, shit! Death to America! 1.00

00:14:15.960 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:14:17.640 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:14:19.640 Oh, shit! 1.00

00:14:23.640 Who did that? 1.00

00:14:25.640 Ryan did it.

00:14:26.640 Yo.

00:14:28.640 Who did that? 0.91

00:14:29.640 Now, this is something of an aside, but if you call yourself America first, and of course

00:14:56.320 a lot of people do now, it goes without saying that you should be stridently opposed to people

00:15:02.180 who shout death to America, burn American flags, and go out of their way to cause problems

00:15:07.660 for American citizens, for regular American citizens who are just trying to get to work

00:15:13.280 on a Monday morning.

00:15:15.660 If your America first principle somehow find common cause with people who wish death on 0.74

00:15:21.440 America and its people, then that's a good indication that you are at best very confused.

00:15:27.880 But that confusion needs to end at this point, because this is well past the realm of online

00:15:32.780 trolling.

00:15:33.480 There are now coordinated attacks occurring all over the country targeting our infrastructure.

00:15:39.560 You know, you hear a lot of people say, when we see things like this, they say, well, why

00:15:46.180 would people do this?

00:15:46.960 They're not going to convince anyone to support their cause by blocking traffic or shutting

00:15:51.880 down the airport.

00:15:53.760 Well, yeah, that's because the objective of Hamas sympathizers living in this country, it's

00:15:59.760 not to convince you of anything.

00:16:01.700 They're not trying to persuade you.

00:16:05.040 Disrupting infrastructure, as always, is just the first phase in a much larger campaign that

00:16:11.460 they have planned.

00:16:12.180 And unless more states follow Florida's lead and shut this down immediately, then very

00:16:19.300 soon we'll find out what the next phase is.

00:16:23.180 Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:17:19.480 The Daily Wire reports the Supreme Court ruled Monday to allow an Idaho law protecting children

00:17:24.920 from life-altering transgender procedures to go into effect while the law is challenged in lower

00:17:28.860 courts.

00:17:29.300 The law passed last year bans procedures like double mastectomies on girls who identify as

00:17:34.000 boys and giving children puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, which has been linked

00:17:38.960 to bone development issues and heart problems.

00:17:40.640 The law also stipulates that doctors who perform transgender procedures on kids could go to

00:17:44.880 prison for 10 years.

00:17:46.880 The decision means the law will go into effect for the state except for two families who

00:17:50.620 say their children identify as transgender and who sued with the help of the ACLU, claiming

00:17:54.940 the law was discriminatory.

00:17:57.380 Justices Neil Gorsuch, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett all

00:18:02.300 sided with Idaho Attorney General Raul Labrador, who appealed to the court to turn back a sweeping

00:18:07.140 injunction placed on the law by a federal judge who completely blocked the law.

00:18:12.340 Kentonji Brown-Jackson, Sotomayor, and Kagan all dissented, as you would expect.

00:18:18.940 So, just to clarify, so this was not, as you heard, it was not the Supreme Court ruling

00:18:29.060 in favor of the Idaho law itself, which bans child mutilation.

00:18:34.420 So they're not ruling on the merits of the case.

00:18:37.140 Instead, they're overturning the injunction placed on the law by a federal judge who shut

00:18:41.260 down the entire law from being implemented after two families sued because they said that

00:18:47.860 they needed to castrate their kids, and the law prevented them from doing that. 1.00

00:18:52.780 So, and this has become a trend, by the way, in recent years, where federal judges will just

00:18:57.640 come in and issue sweeping injunctions, suspending entire laws for everybody because one person

00:19:05.540 has filed a lawsuit over it.

00:19:07.960 So it's basically an end around.

00:19:09.940 It's a way for the judge to at least temporarily shut down a law that he doesn't like.

00:19:14.540 Very easy to do.

00:19:15.480 You don't even need to let the lawsuit go through.

00:19:18.120 Just, if there is a lawsuit, shut down the whole law.

00:19:21.200 And so, again, the Supreme Court has not ruled on the merits of the case, but rather on the

00:19:26.860 merits of the injunction, which they found to be far too broad, and of course it was.

00:19:31.600 And the upshot, though, is that the Idaho law can now go into effect, but the lawsuit

00:19:37.600 will continue.

00:19:38.220 And I think, you know, eventually the Supreme Court is going to have to rule on the actual

00:19:44.600 case itself, whether this case or another one, but eventually they're going to have to

00:19:50.460 make a ruling on whether states have the legal right to ban these procedures.

00:19:56.700 And, and obviously they absolutely do have the legal right to do so.

00:20:01.820 And not just the right, in fact, but the duty, the obligation.

00:20:04.780 I mean, I, if I'm on the Supreme Court, if Judge Walsh is on the Supreme Court, then I'm

00:20:11.580 ruling that, that it's, in fact, it's a, it's a violation of a child's human rights to do

00:20:17.980 this to them.

00:20:18.900 So not only do states have the right to ban it, but in fact, no state has the right to,

00:20:24.900 to allow it in the first place.

00:20:28.420 You don't, as a, as a, you know, a doctor does not have the right to do that to a child.

00:20:34.780 Because it is a violation of the child's human rights.

00:20:39.260 That's what the ruling should be.

00:20:41.680 Now, I don't think that's going to happen.

00:20:44.820 But I do think that if we get to a point that the Supreme Court is actually ruling on the merits

00:20:52.420 of one of these laws, at least with the Supreme Court and its current makeup, then it's a,

00:20:56.800 it's a, it's a slam dunk case.

00:20:59.760 Like, obviously, of course, of course, states have the right to ban this.

00:21:05.380 And, and again, not only do they have the right, but the moral obligation.

00:21:11.260 Daily Wire has an update on the first day of Trump's trial in New York.

00:21:14.140 At least 50 prospective jurors were dismissed by Judge Juan Merchant on Monday for admitting

00:21:19.500 that they would struggle to remain fair during the trial, with white women making up many of 0.99

00:21:24.880 those who were dismissed.

00:21:26.500 The trial, where the former president stands accused of falsifying business records to cover

00:21:30.080 up an alleged affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels, began on Monday, marking the first

00:21:34.820 proceedings in a criminal trial against a former U.S. president.

00:21:37.220 In addition to the 50 prospective jurors who were dismissed for their partiality, at least nine

00:21:43.360 more people raised their hand when the judge asked if they could not serve on the jury for

00:21:48.180 any other reasons that remain undisclosed.

00:21:51.080 Of the 96 prospective jurors who entered the courtroom, only 34 remained after the dismissals.

00:22:00.440 So that was one issue that they talked about.

00:22:03.080 The other was, it says here at the end of the day, Trump's team requested that the former

00:22:08.140 president be excused from the trial next Thursday so we can hear arguments at the U.S. Supreme

00:22:12.720 Court on his immunity claim stemming from his Washington, D.C. election interference case.

00:22:17.560 So on that last point, the judge is not going, it looks like the judge is not going to let Trump

00:22:22.620 go to the Supreme Court for that case.

00:22:24.960 And he's not going to let Trump attend his son's high school graduation, which is coming up soon.

00:22:30.000 And here is Trump afterwards talking about that.

00:22:34.220 Watch.

00:22:36.340 Thank you very much.

00:22:37.860 We had some amazing things happen today.

00:22:41.800 As you know, my son has graduated from high school and it looks like the judge will not

00:22:45.660 let me go through the graduation of my son who's worked very, very hard.

00:22:51.340 He's a great student.

00:22:52.640 He's very proud of the fact that he did so well and I was looking forward for years to

00:22:58.500 have his graduation with his mother and father there.

00:23:01.900 And it looks like the judge isn't going to allow me to escape this scam.

00:23:05.360 It's a scam trial.

00:23:07.020 If you read all of the legal pundits, all of the legal scholars today, there's not one

00:23:12.080 that I see that said this is a case that should be brought to a trial.

00:23:16.240 It's a scam.

00:23:17.120 It's a political witch hunt.

00:23:19.540 It continues.

00:23:20.820 It continues forever.

00:23:22.720 And we're not going to be given a fair trial.

00:23:24.560 It's a very, very sad thing.

00:23:26.680 In addition, as you know, next Thursday, we're before the United States Supreme Court at a

00:23:31.400 very big hearing on immunity.

00:23:33.920 And this is something that we've been waiting for a long time.

00:23:37.880 And the judge, of course, is not going to allow us.

00:23:40.220 He's a very conflicted judge and he's not going to allow us to go to that.

00:23:44.640 He won't allow me to leave here for a half a day, go to D.C. and go before the United

00:23:50.600 States Supreme Court because he thinks he's superior, I guess, to the Supreme Court.

00:23:55.960 And we've got a real problem with this judge.

00:23:57.860 We have a real problem with a lot of things having to do with this trial, including the

00:24:01.920 D.A.

00:24:02.940 Because you go right outside and people are being muffed and killed all day long.

00:24:06.580 And he's sitting here all day with about 10 or 12 prosecutors.

00:24:09.920 So everything you said there is, of course, true.

00:24:13.100 Well, everything except for the bit about how legal scholars all agree that it's a scam

00:24:18.340 trial.

00:24:19.660 Unfortunately, there are plenty of legal scholars and so-called experts who are totally politically

00:24:23.420 compromised and so have not agreed on that point.

00:24:26.900 But aside from that, Trump is right. 0.96

00:24:30.180 The case is ridiculous. 0.62

00:24:31.260 It never should have been brought. 0.58

00:24:32.140 But and on top of all that, we're not on top of it, but this is, you know, of course,

00:24:41.960 an important facet of it is that it is impossible for Trump to get a fair trial.

00:24:47.980 It's just not it can't happen.

00:24:50.320 It's not even it's not implausible.

00:24:52.560 It's not unlikely that he gets a fair trial.

00:24:54.800 It's impossible.

00:24:56.000 It cannot.

00:24:56.840 I don't see any conceivable way.

00:25:00.360 And a lot of people are focused on the fact that this is happening in New York.

00:25:02.980 And so even more so in New York, you're not gonna get a fair trial.

00:25:07.280 True.

00:25:08.820 But I don't think where could he go in the in the on the planet and get a fair trial?

00:25:14.900 It's just impossible.

00:25:16.080 He's the most famous man in the world.

00:25:17.740 He's running for president.

00:25:18.760 So he's the most famous man in the world.

00:25:22.140 He's he's currently running for president right now, as you may be aware.

00:25:27.540 The election is a year away.

00:25:30.240 All of these things, anyone in the country who would be in a jury pool will be aware of. 0.99

00:25:35.280 Even the most ignorant here, you're looking for the most ignorant possible people who have 0.96

00:25:40.980 as little information about this as as it's possible for a person to have. 0.97

00:25:44.800 But even someone in that group, they're at least gonna they're gonna know who he is.

00:25:49.180 They're gonna have an opinion about him.

00:25:51.320 And they're going to know that it's a presidential election and that

00:25:54.160 the election is coming up in November.

00:25:56.780 Everybody at least knows that.

00:25:59.800 So how do you get a fair trial?

00:26:01.080 You would need jurors who have no preconceived notions about Trump.

00:26:08.740 Are impartial.

00:26:11.580 I mean, really what you want would be jurors who don't even know who he is.

00:26:14.800 But that's not going to happen.

00:26:16.100 Again, you could you could do this trial somewhere in, you know, some some island somewhere in

00:26:23.040 the Pacific.

00:26:24.440 And you're not going to find jurors who don't know who Trump is.

00:26:29.360 So everyone knows who he is.

00:26:30.340 Everyone in the world knows who he is.

00:26:32.680 So that's not going to happen.

00:26:33.920 But at a minimum, you would need jurors who who have who who are impartial, who don't really care

00:26:40.600 about Trump one way or another.

00:26:42.860 Have no political affiliations.

00:26:45.980 No opinions ahead of time about, you know, what they'd like to see happen in the case.

00:26:51.760 And no opinions about who they whether they want to see Trump win in November or not.

00:26:59.160 And it's not going to happen.

00:27:00.720 We all know that.

00:27:02.320 Everybody knows that.

00:27:04.660 The judge knows it.

00:27:05.820 The DA knows it.

00:27:06.600 In fact, they're counting on it.

00:27:10.660 That's not just a that's not like an obstacle that they mistakenly believe that they can

00:27:18.060 get over. 0.54

00:27:19.260 It's that is what that that is.

00:27:21.060 That is a feature, not a bug for them.

00:27:22.960 So the whole thing is a just an absolute miscarriage of justice.

00:27:28.320 Obviously, Katie Couric was on Bill Maher's podcast for some reason. 0.96

00:27:33.160 And I'm not even sure.

00:27:35.340 She's still on TV doing something.

00:27:37.000 I have no idea.

00:27:37.880 But she's well, she's on TV now anyway, on Bill Maher's podcast, at least on YouTube.

00:27:42.100 And she got some attention when she said this.

00:27:44.240 Watch.

00:27:44.380 And I feel like to your point, Bill, that socioeconomic disparities are a lot and class

00:27:54.600 resentment is a lot.

00:27:57.100 What and anti-intellectualism and elitism is what is driving many of these these anti-establishment,

00:28:05.980 which are Trump voters or anti-establishment voters.

00:28:09.240 So I think that is a huge problem that we have to address.

00:28:16.040 I mean, globalization and, you know, the transition from an industrial to a technological society.

00:28:24.340 I mean, I and I don't know if you've ever been jealous of some what someone else has or

00:28:30.460 resentful.

00:28:31.160 It is such a corroding and bitter, almost vile feeling.

00:28:40.200 Right.

00:28:41.200 OK, so Couric says that Trump voters are resentful, bitter people who are anti-intellectual.

00:28:49.580 And in fact, just to make sure that I I understand her argument here.

00:28:53.960 She says that Trump voters are anti-intellectual, anti-establishment and and elitist.

00:29:01.160 Did you catch that?

00:29:02.360 So she lumps elitism and anti-intellectualism and being anti-establishment altogether in

00:29:08.780 the same pile as if it's possible for someone to be all of those things at the same time.

00:29:12.900 How does that work exactly?

00:29:14.260 How can you be elitist and anti-establishment at the same time?

00:29:19.660 Isn't that like accused? 0.82

00:29:20.480 It's like accusing somebody of being, you know, a promiscuous prude.

00:29:25.800 It just doesn't doesn't make a lot of sense. 0.99

00:29:27.560 A prudish whore is just it's a it's a oxymoron. 1.00

00:29:31.560 But that's basically what she's going with. 0.98

00:29:33.640 She can't choose which of the two opposite extreme labels she wants to hang around the

00:29:38.320 necks of her political opponents.

00:29:40.840 So she goes with both.

00:29:42.280 You know, why why choose?

00:29:43.480 And you can just have both.

00:29:44.320 And that's that's what shows how meaningless these labels are, by the way.

00:29:49.280 But she is partially right.

00:29:51.920 She can't be fully right because her full point is incoherent and self-contradictory.

00:29:56.980 But she is partially right.

00:29:59.460 The MAGA movement is anti-establishment because the establishment establishment has proven itself

00:30:04.900 to be hopelessly corrupt.

00:30:07.400 They prove it every day.

00:30:09.240 They're proving it right now in this sham trial in New York. 0.90

00:30:12.160 The establishment is corrupt. 1.00

00:30:14.380 It's incompetent, feckless, oppressive. 0.99

00:30:17.460 Totally unconcerned with the welfare and well-being of American citizens. 0.69

00:30:23.360 That's why MAGA is anti-establishment.

00:30:26.000 Is it anti-intellectual?

00:30:29.140 Because I think I think most people when they anyone who considers themselves part of the MAGA movement,

00:30:34.520 anyone who's a Trump supporter and they hear they're accused of being anti-establishment,

00:30:39.060 they have no problem saying, well, yeah, of course, of course, I'm anti-establishment.

00:30:43.980 But I think anti-intellectual.

00:30:48.140 You tend to take us as an insult and of course, it's intended as an insult.

00:30:52.780 So you're not wrong for taking it that way.

00:30:55.960 But it's also true that in a sense, I would say MAGA is anti-intellectual.

00:31:01.800 In that it's anti the intellectual class, the people who pass as intellectual,

00:31:09.280 the people who call themselves that or who are who are called that.

00:31:13.420 Those people.

00:31:16.240 Academics and so on.

00:31:18.460 But the feelings of animosity towards the intellectuals,

00:31:23.360 it's not because they are intellectuals, but because they aren't.

00:31:26.480 And the problem with the intellectuals in our culture today is that they're not intellectual. 0.96

00:31:31.440 They're frauds. 0.90

00:31:33.360 I mean, it's it.

00:31:35.960 The intellectuals are the ones who will tell us that men can get pregnant. 0.96

00:31:41.120 And it's not merely that they believe these crazy things or pretend to believe them.

00:31:46.440 But that these insane ideas originate with them. 1.00

00:31:49.540 They're the ones who come up with the dumbest, craziest things anyone's ever said. 0.99

00:31:53.700 And they and it filters down from them into the broader culture. 0.99

00:31:58.840 That's what the, you know, the intellectual class is now.

00:32:02.620 We have people graduating, as we talked about last week, we have people graduating from Yale

00:32:06.620 and then going on to have prominent careers in politics and national politics.

00:32:13.440 And yet.

00:32:15.100 As we saw last week, that they don't know what the moon is.

00:32:18.840 Sheila Jackson Lee thinks that the moon is a gaseous planet. 0.92

00:32:21.940 And she graduated from Yale. 1.00

00:32:26.340 So the intellectual class is mediocre and stupid and morally corrupt and intellectually bankrupt. 1.00

00:32:36.540 That's the problem with them. 1.00

00:32:37.920 And that's why they are hated for good reason.

00:32:41.680 What about elitist?

00:32:43.460 Well, I mean, of course, that's just nonsense.

00:32:45.540 The people go to Trump rallies are about as far from elitist as you can get.

00:32:49.540 Now, if you listen to the way she phrases it, she says anti-intellectual.

00:32:55.600 She says anti-intellectualism and elitism.

00:32:58.900 So it's possible that she's accusing them of being anti-intellectual and anti-elite.

00:33:03.800 So maybe she's accusing them not of being elite, but of being opposed to elitism.

00:33:10.020 And she sees that as a bad thing.

00:33:11.560 And that would actually be true.

00:33:12.660 But no matter how you look at it, it's confused.

00:33:16.760 All right.

00:33:19.180 Speaking of confused, the Daily Star has...

00:33:23.700 Here's the headline anyway.

00:33:24.880 Most people want to have sex with robots, new robo-sexuality study reveals. 0.91

00:33:32.800 Okay. 0.78

00:33:34.160 The article says, new research has revealed who would most likely be interested in having sex with robots.

00:33:40.600 Technology has moved on in leaps and bounds from the days of blow-up dolls to realistic sex robots,

00:33:45.660 which have been built to satisfy, quote-unquote.

00:33:48.300 Quote, while a few have made their way onto the market, development continues to improve on what's available.

00:33:53.340 Along with the vast shift towards looking realistic, investing in new sex aids has never been easier.

00:33:58.780 For the shy folk who didn't relish the idea of strolling into a store and pulling one down off the shelf,

00:34:03.980 internet shopping has put pay to that awkward encounter.

00:34:09.740 Put pay?

00:34:10.800 Has put pay to that awkward encounter?

00:34:14.180 But who's most likely to invest?

00:34:15.800 Is it a perv-only pursuit or would easily embarrassed others take the plunge now that they can hide behind a keyboard?

00:34:22.520 Luckily, a couple of boffins in Canada... 1.00

00:34:24.340 This is the most British article I've ever read.

00:34:26.680 A couple of boffins in Canada sought to find out the answers by probing a number of undergraduates at their disposal.

00:34:33.900 Yeah, I'm not going to read this anymore.

00:34:34.960 Anyway, the point is that they did this study to find out who would be likely to take advantage of sex dolls,

00:34:42.700 and they found some characteristics.

00:34:44.020 The problem is that, you know, the headline says that most people want sex robots.

00:34:50.060 I don't see where the actual text of the article lays that out, that most people want that.

00:34:55.840 I'm not sure where they get the most people from.

00:34:58.060 But I have no doubt that a lot of people right now would take advantage of this option if it was made available to them.

00:35:06.240 And I also have no doubt, whether there's any study that bears this out right now or not,

00:35:12.180 I have no doubt personally that eventually most people would be quote-unquote robosexuals, 1.00

00:35:20.360 which is apparently a term now, because the stage has been set for this.

00:35:24.860 Now, first of all, we normalized alternative quote-unquote sexualities.

00:35:29.820 That's already been done. 0.91

00:35:31.840 Second, we have millions of people who are already hooked on, you know, virtual sex in the form of internet porn.

00:35:38.220 Third, we have a loneliness epidemic of people feeling isolated and alone and desperate for human connection.

00:35:44.640 And we've removed, you know, shame and stigma.

00:35:52.240 And now you develop technology to actually have sex robots.

00:35:58.460 You make them cheap enough for people to buy, and you remove all the stigma around it.

00:36:04.680 If that happens, then, yeah, I think you're going to see probably billions of people

00:36:08.720 who are sexually active exclusively with robots.

00:36:12.800 I think that is the future we're heading into.

00:36:16.920 It's kind of the final stage.

00:36:18.780 It's the conclusion that we have been setting up for.

00:36:22.240 And then when that happens, like, well, then you have the extinction of the human race, basically.

00:36:27.360 That's it.

00:36:28.360 That's the end.

00:36:29.400 That's what does it.

00:36:31.200 And it's not just that people won't reproduce anymore.

00:36:35.700 You know, birth rates are already plummeting.

00:36:38.300 Young people are already foregoing marriage and family life. 0.97

00:36:42.800 And then you give people robots as a sexual outlet, and you've just kind of put the final nail in the birth rates coffin.

00:36:50.620 But it's not just that.

00:36:52.120 I mean, that's the big thing.

00:36:53.360 That's the main thing.

00:36:55.360 I think the other thing, though, is that we're taking away everything that drives and motivates people, especially men.

00:37:03.220 We're taking away all the reasons people have, or rather have had in the past, to, like, leave their homes.

00:37:13.040 And more than leave their homes, actually go out and achieve great things.

00:37:17.380 And like I said, this is not a problem that begins with the proliferation of sex robots.

00:37:23.880 That will be the culmination.

00:37:26.100 You know, but it's already happening.

00:37:28.540 You know, I've been reading a book right now by Hampton Sides called The Wide, Wide Sea.

00:37:33.640 And I'm a huge fan of the author Hampton Sides.

00:37:37.580 Strongly recommend the book.

00:37:38.840 As you know, I love books about old explorers.

00:37:41.000 And this one is about the final voyage of Captain James Cook.

00:37:45.120 This was a guy in the 1700s who traveled all over the globe, tens of thousands of miles all around the globe, east to west, north to south, discovering new land, you know, reshaping the map, changing the world as it was at the time.

00:37:57.040 And what I love about these stories, and the thing that draws me to them, is that these are stories of men who are driven to do extraordinary things and endure just incredible hardship and deprivation.

00:38:12.760 Because back in the 18th century, and for centuries before that, and for at least a century after that, going on a voyage across the ocean, that was a death sentence for a huge number of the men.

00:38:26.680 And that, on the ship.

00:38:28.680 They knew before they set sail that probably half of them would die and would never see their homes again.

00:38:34.140 And when they die, they die horribly.

00:38:36.220 Like, die of scurvy and dysentery and hypothermia and starvation.

00:38:40.320 Like, the worst possible ways.

00:38:43.100 And if you got on one of these ships, it's like, there's a 50% chance that's going to happen to you.

00:38:47.780 Or they might die in more horrifying ways than that.

00:38:49.680 They might die, they might get kidnapped and eaten by cannibals on an island somewhere.

00:38:53.860 And that could happen too.

00:38:54.620 And even if they survive, they're still going to be stuck on a ship for years, years, and years at a time with rats and roaches and the stench of human waste.

00:39:03.600 You know, it's either too cold or too hot and it's wet all the time.

00:39:06.420 And you're eating stale, moldy bread and salty, spoiled meat.

00:39:11.240 Just an absolutely torturous experience.

00:39:14.260 And yet, these guys would willingly sign up for that experience.

00:39:18.220 They would sign up to do it.

00:39:19.680 They were eager to do it.

00:39:21.020 Why is that?

00:39:24.720 I'm just fascinated by the why.

00:39:27.000 Why did they do it?

00:39:29.000 Especially because it's so different from the way people are wired today.

00:39:33.180 The idea of anyone willingly putting themselves into a position like that, foregoing comfort to that extent, it's just unthinkable.

00:39:43.680 People will not do it.

00:39:44.760 But back then they did.

00:39:47.660 And as to the why, there isn't one answer.

00:39:51.600 You know, they were motivated by the desire to explore, the desire to find out what the world looked like.

00:39:56.680 Just pure curiosity was something.

00:40:00.080 The desire to spread the gospel in many cases.

00:40:02.800 There was also a profit motive.

00:40:03.960 You know, they dreamed of riches and resources and everything.

00:40:06.500 And they did it for honor, for respect, for increasing their station in life.

00:40:11.000 And all of these powerful human desires drove them to do incredible, courageous things.

00:40:19.360 Now, what does it have to do with sex robots?

00:40:22.140 Well, the point is that the more that people are satiated, the more that their base desires are met and met on demand in their homes.

00:40:34.700 Like, just snap of the finger and that's it.

00:40:38.460 No effort required.

00:40:39.500 The more that happens, the less they're motivated to go out and pursue anything.

00:40:47.120 Their base desires are met all the time, always, at a moment's notice.

00:40:52.000 And after a while, they don't even develop any other higher sort of desires, any loftier desires.

00:40:58.620 All they have are the base ones.

00:41:00.240 And even the base desires, they don't feel those with any great passion or intensity because the satiation of that desire is always within arm's reach.

00:41:13.260 And so, again, we're already, this is the world we already live in, where people just don't, there's no reason to leave your house.

00:41:19.820 It's like everything, why even leave?

00:41:21.520 And the idea, like, if you do leave your house, okay, you leave and you come back.

00:41:27.020 But the idea of leaving to do something great and embrace hardship knowingly, well, that, I think, to most people is unthinkable.

00:41:40.060 They would never do it.

00:41:42.260 And, you know, we're, that's the trend and there's no signs of it slowing down, unfortunately.

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00:43:12.660 Just a couple of quick comments.

00:43:14.620 We talked yesterday about Bill Maher kind of breaking the vow of silence among pro-abortion people by actually saying out loud what they all really believe,

00:43:27.880 which is that they realize that abortion obviously kills a human life, that it is murder.

00:43:32.340 But he said he's okay with that because there are too many people on the planet already,

00:43:37.520 and so he's not going to miss these babies that are killed.

00:43:42.940 First comment says, the difference between killing Maher, and I made the point that that logic could just as easily apply to Bill Maher himself.

00:43:51.600 If we can justify murder based on the fact that there's some sort of surplus of people because people are commodities,

00:44:00.300 and that's how Bill Maher looks at them, well, then why can't we kill Bill Maher?

00:44:04.620 This comment has an answer to that. 0.89

00:44:05.880 The difference between killing Bill Maher and an embryo slash fetus is that by killing Maher, you hurt those to whom he's a loved one,

00:44:14.020 whereas the embryo slash fetus is a loved one to no one.

00:44:17.780 Well, that's pretty dark, I have to say.

00:44:24.740 That's pretty dark because what you're arguing is that a person's moral worth is dependent on how other people feel about that person.

00:44:36.000 That's what you're saying. 0.79

00:44:36.980 That if you are loved by others, then you have worth and you shouldn't be killed, but if you're not, then we can kill you? 0.87

00:44:46.740 I mean, that's the argument. 0.78

00:44:49.700 And let's extend that logic out.

00:44:53.200 It also means that someone who is loved by a lot of people is worth more than someone who is loved by fewer.

00:45:00.260 So, for example, Taylor Swift is, by your logic, is worth way more than you are or I am.

00:45:11.020 Because if she's killed, that would be a great tragedy to, like, millions of people.

00:45:17.780 As that wouldn't be the case for you, and it wouldn't be the case for me.

00:45:21.300 In fact, I'm in a worse spot because if I'm killed, then, in fact, it's a cause of celebration for a lot of people.

00:45:28.900 And so, you know, I don't know.

00:45:31.120 It's like, that puts me in the negative.

00:45:33.740 I don't know.

00:45:34.920 I'm in a bad spot.

00:45:35.660 It's just, I don't think that you want to go down that road when you're assessing who has worth and who doesn't.

00:45:42.600 If this is the point, if you try to do anything but just accept that everybody has moral worth,

00:45:50.020 that it comes by the nature of the fact that we are human beings created by God,

00:45:54.300 which does not mean that we have the right to keep living no matter what, no matter what we do, okay?

00:46:02.380 If we commit a horrendous crime, if we try to kill someone else, they have to kill us in self-defense and stuff like, you know.

00:46:07.320 And in that case, but we still have, as by the nature of being human, we have moral worth and other people don't have more worth than we do.

00:46:16.700 So, if you try to come up with any other way of looking at it, then this is what you end up with.

00:46:24.820 I mean, you end up with very dark scenarios like this.

00:46:29.260 I mean, what about, just a hypothetical here, you know, you're walking through the woods

00:46:35.240 and you stumble across some hermit living in a cabin in the woods and no family, nobody even knows that he's alive, right?

00:46:44.000 He's been living off the grid, you know, living the life, a very enviable life, in fact, for, you know, for decades. 0.99

00:46:52.780 So, can you just kill him? 0.99

00:46:54.960 Like, no one's going to know he's dead. 1.00

00:46:56.840 No one even knows.

00:46:58.960 So, the old, if a tree falls in a forest thing, but if you kill a hermit in the forest and no one knows that it happens, it doesn't matter.

00:47:05.160 According to you, it really doesn't.

00:47:10.840 Finally, if Matt cared about all lives, he would care about the innocent Ukrainians getting slaughtered. 1.00

00:47:15.580 Instead, Matt said he doesn't care about them.

00:47:17.840 How can Matt choose not to care about some lives being lost that don't affect him,

00:47:21.860 but not understand when Marr makes the same argument?

00:47:25.880 Well, I don't know what you mean by care.

00:47:29.780 What do you mean I don't care?

00:47:31.040 Yes, I care in a general abstract sense about people suffering around the globe.

00:47:37.340 Sure, I care like that.

00:47:38.700 I care in that sense.

00:47:40.960 But billions of people are suffering in billions of different ways every second of the day.

00:47:45.700 So, what do you mean care?

00:47:49.080 Like, am I supposed to walk around overwhelmed by grief about all of that all the time?

00:47:54.840 Do you?

00:47:55.480 And why do you make special mention of Ukraine when there are people suffering in equal if not greater measure right now in Ethiopia and Indonesia and everywhere else?

00:48:06.800 What about them?

00:48:09.220 Why don't you mention the Ethiopians?

00:48:10.780 Why do you only talk about the Ukrainians?

00:48:12.220 Do you not care about the Ethiopians?

00:48:15.120 My point is that we can and must prioritize the people who are closest to us, our own family, our own friends, our own communities, our own country.

00:48:24.800 We care more about them.

00:48:26.200 I care more about my own children than I do about your children.

00:48:32.060 If my child and your child were in a burning building and I could only save one, there's nothing to think about.

00:48:37.560 I'm saving my own kid.

00:48:38.860 I don't have to even think about it.

00:48:41.360 I care so much more about my own kid than I do about your kids or you.

00:48:46.980 But that's because I'm a human being.

00:48:52.200 That's because this is how we're wired.

00:48:54.640 This is the only way we can be.

00:48:57.860 If I didn't care more about my own, if I cared about my own kids the same way that I care about everybody else in the world, that would make me a horrible person.

00:49:06.760 I would be like a sociopath.

00:49:08.120 I'd be a neglectful, terrible father in that case. 0.61

00:49:13.460 So this is how we're wired.

00:49:16.520 This is how it's meant to be.

00:49:18.040 But all of that is beside the point because relating this back to abortion, my whole point is that the worth of a human being is not dependent on how other people feel about them.

00:49:28.780 So, yes, if my child is in a burning building, I'm going to save my child over any other human being.

00:49:35.660 You know, it doesn't matter who it is.

00:49:38.180 Does that mean that I believe that my child objectively has more moral worth than any other person on the planet?

00:49:46.980 No, I don't think that.

00:49:50.120 But my responsibility, my relationship with, my, you know, emotional attachment to, like, that's...

00:50:01.860 Responsibility is a big one.

00:50:05.000 I already said that.

00:50:05.700 But that's what makes me prioritize my own child.

00:50:09.200 Yet that is, again, that's not how we assess the actual objective moral worth of human beings.

00:50:16.640 Well, as you should know, we premiered my new show, Judged by Matt Walsh, last week.

00:50:23.980 And we put out episode one and two and, well, we can tell you episode three of my new series, Judged by Matt Walsh, premieres tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern, exclusively on Daily Wire Plus.

00:50:33.240 So if you're not a Daily Wire Plus member yet, you have to join now so you can watch the show and watch all the coming episodes as well.

00:50:40.080 You can use code JUDGED at checkout for 35% off your membership at dailywireplus.com.

00:50:45.020 And remember, if you don't enjoy the show, that means there's something wrong with you.

00:50:49.800 You need to get that fixed.

00:50:50.940 Now let's get to our Daily Cancellation.

00:50:58.780 Well, if you run a Christian church and you decide to hold a Christian conference, let's say a conference for men, it's probably a bad sign if anything at the conference makes headlines or trends on Twitter.

00:51:10.940 And if something does make headlines and it does trend, you certainly don't want those headlines to be shocking and sort of hilarious in a morbid and cringy and depressing way.

00:51:19.000 You don't want it to be the kind of thing that people see and they raise their eyebrows and say, wait, what?

00:51:26.380 That's generally not the type of reaction you hope for.

00:51:28.540 And yet that is the reaction that I had and I think everyone else had this week when video from the Stronger Men's Conference in Missouri started circulating on social media.

00:51:38.580 The first tweet I saw was from Colin Rugg, and here's what he posted.

00:51:41.880 Quote, Pastor Mark Driscoll gets kicked off stage at a men's conference after he calls out Pastor John Lindell for allowing a demonstration from a male stripper.

00:51:52.740 Now, you read that and you think that there must be more to the story.

00:51:57.160 Indeed, there is.

00:51:58.640 It's just that the full context doesn't make it much better than it sounds.

00:52:02.260 Here's USA Today with more.

00:52:03.360 Quote, the Stronger Men's Conference, an annual event hosted by the James River Church, exists to inspire and equip men to live out God's vision for manhood to be the husbands, fathers, and leaders God has called them to be, according to a news release.

00:52:15.240 It was held at the Great Southern Bank Arena on April 12th and 13th.

00:52:19.160 Driscoll's remarks came following a performance from Alex Magala, a sword swallower who took off his shirt, climbed up a pole, and swallowed a sword live at the conference.

00:52:28.620 Now, before we listen to Driscoll's rebuke, let's see a clip of the act in question.

00:52:34.660 Keep in mind that this is a Christian conference for men, men specifically who are looking for guidance and inspiration to become better husbands and fathers.

00:52:42.780 That's how they sell this thing.

00:52:43.880 That's what they're there for.

00:52:45.520 And this is how they apparently kick things off.

00:52:49.220 Watch.

00:52:58.620 Watch.

00:53:28.620 I don't know.

00:53:58.620 All right.

00:54:05.480 So he swallows the sword and then he goes back up the pole. 0.99

00:54:09.280 Yeah, I mean, pretty gay. 0.99

00:54:11.460 Let's be honest. 0.64

00:54:12.820 And you notice like the older guys in the front row in ball caps and T-shirts,

00:54:17.480 the kinds of guys who, you know,

00:54:18.940 they look like they enjoy nothing so much as cutting the lawn on a Saturday morning.

00:54:22.620 And for good reason, just regular guys. 0.72

00:54:25.040 And here is this Vegas sword swallower dramatically ripping off his shirt and climbing a stripper pole.

00:54:33.160 And yes, this performer, Alex Magala, is apparently a former male stripper.

00:54:36.920 Now, perhaps we can be generous enough to James River Church to assume that they didn't know that.

00:54:45.320 And, you know, and yeah, I think they probably didn't,

00:54:48.560 although it would mean that they aren't even Googling the people they pay to perform at their conferences.

00:54:54.440 Let's assume that his full career resume was not known.

00:54:57.320 No, let's assume that they failed to do even five minutes of due diligence.

00:55:02.220 Fine.

00:55:04.240 Even so, why would you think that a bunch of 55-year-old men at a Christian men's conference would want to see that?

00:55:12.420 And the point still stands, even if you argue, as some have, that there was nothing sexual about the performance.

00:55:18.540 Now, I think that interpretation stretches the bounds of credulity a bit too far.

00:55:22.200 I mean, this is an actual former male stripper ripping his shirt off and performing on a pole.

00:55:29.240 So he did strip and then perform on a pole.

00:55:32.520 It's like, it's not difficult to connect the dots here.

00:55:35.160 In fact, I say he's a former male stripper, but I'm not even sure that the former qualification is true or not.

00:55:40.460 I don't know.

00:55:41.460 But a Daily Mail article from 2016 when he was on Britain's Got Talent says this, quote,

00:55:46.680 When he's not performing on the Family Friendly Talent Show, the 26-year-old Soviet-born performer leads a more X-rated lifestyle, 0.73

00:55:53.800 wooing all female audiences and gay nightclubbers.

00:55:56.520 Astonishing photos show Magala, a college dropout, on stage as a pole-dancing striptease artiste in Los Angeles and Las Vegas. 0.72

00:56:05.080 Among his regular hangouts is the Abbey Gay Club in Hollywood, dubbed the best gay bar in the world.

00:56:10.600 So, as of 2016, he was frequenting gay bars in Hollywood.

00:56:15.580 Not just frequenting, but performing at them.

00:56:17.980 And now he's doing gigs for Christian men's conferences.

00:56:22.380 Still on a pole and still shirtless.

00:56:26.580 Now, whether he also still has his stripper side hustle going, I don't know.

00:56:30.780 And it's irrelevant because, like, it's, again, connect the dots.

00:56:34.340 When there's smoke, there's fire.

00:56:35.400 And when there's a stripper taking his shirt off and performing on a pole, there's, well, there's something that doesn't belong at a Christian conference, at least. 0.98

00:56:43.180 But even putting the stripper stuff entirely to the side, the question still remains.

00:56:48.640 Why would you think that a bunch of middle-aged men at a men's conference would want to see that?

00:56:53.780 What about that performance is supposed to speak to men, much less inspire them in their walk with Christ?

00:56:59.980 Even if this was just normal acrobatics, right?

00:57:04.940 Let's just pretend that it was.

00:57:06.520 I've never met a middle-aged man who has any real interest in acrobats.

00:57:12.400 And I certainly haven't met a man who goes to a Christian conference in hopes of witnessing an acrobat, especially not one of the shirtless and male variety.

00:57:21.580 And that's apparently how Mark Driscoll felt about it.

00:57:23.600 And he said so once he got on stage, only to then be thrown off stage and suffer his own rebuke by Pastor John Lindell.

00:57:31.760 Let's watch this altercation unfold.

00:57:36.000 Let me do this.

00:57:39.960 I've been up since one o'clock in the morning.

00:57:43.140 The reason I'm hoarse is I have been praying for you, and my heart is very burnt for you.

00:57:48.940 And I want to be very careful with this, and it's not what I want to say, but the Jezebel spirit has already been here.

00:58:04.780 The Jezebel spirit opened our event.

00:58:07.600 This is a rebuke and a correction of no one.

00:58:09.660 This is an observation.

00:58:11.720 Before the word of God was open, there was a platform.

00:58:16.100 It was a high place.

00:58:17.000 On it was a pole, an asherah. 0.97

00:58:25.500 The same thing that's used in the strip club for women who have the Jezebel spirit to seduce men. 1.00

00:58:33.280 In front of that was a man who ripped his shirt off like a woman does in front of a pole at a strip club. 1.00

00:58:41.920 That man then ascended.

00:58:48.640 See, our God is not arrogant.

00:58:50.980 He doesn't us, and our God is humble.

00:58:52.620 He descends.

00:58:53.140 And then he swallowed a sword, and Jesus cried.

00:59:01.140 Okay, Pastor John, I'll receive that.

00:59:04.860 Thank you.

00:59:05.600 Let me just say yes.

00:59:10.320 Get up.

00:59:11.900 Get up.

00:59:14.900 Get up.

00:59:17.360 Mark.

00:59:18.360 If Mark wanted to say that, you should have said it to me first.

00:59:24.620 Matthew 18. Matthew 18. If your brother offends you, go to him privately.

00:59:37.440 I talked to Mark for a half hour. There was not one word in that. He's out of line.

00:59:43.900 So John Liddell throws Matthew 18 at Driscoll, saying that he should have spoken to him privately.

00:59:50.020 And in many circumstances, I would agree. I mean, I believe strongly in addressing things

00:59:54.780 privately rather than publicly whenever possible. But in this case, when you're speaking at a public

01:00:00.400 event and you strongly object to something that was done or said at that same event before you get

01:00:05.880 on stage, it becomes necessary to address it publicly. If you don't want to be called out

01:00:11.240 publicly at a Christian conference, don't invite male strippers to perform. It's like a pretty 1.00

01:00:15.080 simple equation. And if I had been invited to speak at that event and I found out that my opening

01:00:21.360 act was the dude dancing on a pole, I would have done exactly as Mark Driscoll did. Because if I

01:00:26.880 did anything else, if I didn't say anything, it would seem like I was a willing party to this spectacle.

01:00:32.520 Now, it's clear that Driscoll is in the right. Liddell is desperately in the wrong. And everyone

01:00:38.340 involved in hiring the former male stripper, or perhaps not so former, I don't know,

01:00:44.040 should be fired or should resign. I mean, that much is obvious to any thinking person.

01:00:49.840 But what might be less obvious is the why here. Why would they do this? Like, how is this mistake

01:00:57.680 made? Assuming again that it was a mistake, assuming that they didn't actually intend to hire a stripper,

01:01:03.720 which I still think is a safe assumption, though perhaps I'm giving too much grace

01:01:07.220 to them with my interpretation. Yet, assuming it was a mistake, how was that mistake made? How did

01:01:13.680 James River Church end up in this situation? Well, it's not really hard to see how. Because you go

01:01:20.500 back to that video of Driscoll and Liddell, you notice the decor in the background of the arena.

01:01:27.360 The backdrop for the stage is a giant picture of a motorcycle.

01:01:31.140 Why is there a 50-foot motorcycle picture up on the stage? What does that have to do with

01:01:37.680 inspiring Christian men to be better fathers and husbands? Now, there's obviously nothing morally

01:01:43.520 objectionable about a picture of a motorcycle, but it does seem sort of random and ridiculous.

01:01:50.160 Speaking of which, consider this video from last year's Stronger Men's Conference, because they've

01:01:54.600 been doing this for, I don't know how many years, several years. And at last year's event, there were

01:02:00.620 no strippers as far as I know. But they did have this. Watch.

01:02:06.520 change.

01:02:15.400 I present to you the touch.

01:02:27.180 Yeah.

01:02:32.300 Driven

01:02:32.900 but none other

01:02:34.900 they trust

01:02:36.900 no words

01:03:02.900 okay

01:03:14.900 just to review what we

01:03:16.700 watched or describe it for the audio listeners

01:03:19.040 deprived of that

01:03:19.980 deprived of the visuals there

01:03:22.980 that was a guy in a tank

01:03:26.340 shooting fake guns in the air while riding over

01:03:28.740 a bunch of cars as fire

01:03:30.640 shot out of the ground and an 80s

01:03:32.540 hair metal band played a song

01:03:34.700 from the Top Gun soundtrack

01:03:36.020 the only thing they were missing was Chuck

01:03:38.720 Norris chugging light beer while

01:03:40.520 barbecuing steaks over a gas grill

01:03:42.620 and they would have crammed

01:03:44.460 all of the corniest male 0.97

01:03:46.340 cliches into one performance

01:03:48.120 that was like it was a parody

01:03:50.620 of the modern church's outreach to

01:03:52.620 men if Luke Wilson's

01:03:54.860 character in Idiocracy had

01:03:56.140 visited a mega church in that movie

01:03:58.340 the scene would have looked

01:04:00.420 exactly like that

01:04:01.980 you could take that in its entirety

01:04:04.260 and drop it right into that movie 0.82

01:04:06.640 and you wouldn't need to change anything

01:04:08.760 it's so lame and cringy that it's funny

01:04:12.480 and then it dives deeper into the lameness and cringiness

01:04:14.640 and it stops being funny

01:04:16.060 but then it goes deeper still and it's funny again

01:04:18.180 just not in any way that the church would have intended

01:04:20.680 now don't get me wrong

01:04:22.960 I think tanks are cool

01:04:26.500 tanks are cool

01:04:28.100 I like fire as much as the next guy

01:04:29.600 I like to watch really big vehicles

01:04:32.640 drive over smaller vehicles

01:04:34.200 I don't like 80s rock all that much

01:04:37.080 but I understand the appeal

01:04:38.380 there's nothing inherently wrong

01:04:40.880 with any of that stuff individually

01:04:42.520 or even altogether

01:04:43.440 but when a church

01:04:45.540 is spending many many many

01:04:47.960 thousands of dollars

01:04:49.300 to put on a display like that

01:04:50.880 and they're doing it

01:04:52.600 they claim

01:04:53.340 to inspire men to be better Christian leaders

01:04:56.320 in their families and communities

01:04:57.400 we must ask

01:04:59.040 how exactly

01:05:00.360 this helps in that goal

01:05:02.520 like what

01:05:03.280 what is this supposed to achieve

01:05:05.200 is it conceivable

01:05:06.760 that any man

01:05:07.640 will leave that conference

01:05:08.700 and say to himself

01:05:09.440 wow you know

01:05:10.280 I was feeling kind of spiritually dull

01:05:12.840 and like I was failing

01:05:13.840 as a man and a father

01:05:14.940 and then I saw that guy

01:05:16.880 drive that tank over those cars

01:05:18.500 while the Top Gun soundtrack played

01:05:20.100 and now I see everything clearly again

01:05:22.260 my faith is restored

01:05:23.680 I was blind

01:05:25.220 but now I see

01:05:26.080 I'm ready to be a leader

01:05:27.780 it's very hard to imagine

01:05:30.540 such a scenario

01:05:31.300 at the very least

01:05:31.880 it would have to be

01:05:32.380 a very specific

01:05:33.340 and very strange

01:05:34.540 crisis of faith

01:05:35.880 if it can be cured

01:05:36.840 by tanks and pyrotechnics

01:05:39.400 but the vast majority of men

01:05:42.260 will gain nothing

01:05:43.400 from that whatsoever

01:05:44.260 and some will go home

01:05:46.940 feeling sort of embarrassed

01:05:48.040 and condescended to

01:05:49.380 there's nothing

01:05:51.620 spiritually invigorating

01:05:52.840 about this

01:05:53.360 there's nothing

01:05:53.700 actually inspiring

01:05:55.120 there's nothing

01:05:56.780 to help a man

01:05:57.520 gain wisdom or strength

01:05:58.880 it's just frivolous 0.97

01:06:00.480 and ridiculous 0.99

01:06:01.100 and like corny 0.98

01:06:02.300 and that's the case

01:06:04.700 even before

01:06:05.440 the male stripper

01:06:06.300 takes the stage

01:06:06.960 now

01:06:08.400 here's one thing

01:06:10.840 that I can assure

01:06:12.020 the organizers

01:06:12.640 of the Stronger Men's Conference

01:06:14.160 and any future

01:06:15.080 Christian men's events

01:06:16.340 and there are many

01:06:17.240 of these kinds of events

01:06:18.020 that happen all the time

01:06:18.900 and they're very very common

01:06:22.740 men in this culture

01:06:25.260 are not in need 0.75

01:06:27.600 of more mindless 0.99

01:06:29.420 dumb distraction 0.99

01:06:30.840 we don't need 0.99

01:06:33.280 loud noises

01:06:34.680 and flashing lights

01:06:36.160 and you know

01:06:37.540 sounds 0.97

01:06:38.160 and random crap 0.98

01:06:39.080 happening 0.96

01:06:39.480 for no apparent reason

01:06:40.380 that's the culture

01:06:41.680 we live in

01:06:42.220 every day

01:06:43.060 of our lives

01:06:44.100 this is

01:06:45.960 every day

01:06:46.740 it's just that

01:06:47.420 it's just nonsense

01:06:48.240 and noise

01:06:48.980 and everything

01:06:49.660 things are happening

01:06:50.360 and people are shouting

01:06:51.020 and that's

01:06:51.900 all the time

01:06:52.900 we can get that anywhere

01:06:54.440 and if we do want to see

01:06:55.640 a demolition derby

01:06:56.540 with a tank

01:06:57.140 and I'm not saying

01:06:57.720 that we don't want to see

01:06:58.400 that on occasion

01:06:59.000 but we can find it

01:07:00.340 on YouTube

01:07:00.740 whenever we want

01:07:01.520 I assume

01:07:02.100 so if you want to give

01:07:04.420 men inspiration

01:07:05.500 if you want to help them

01:07:07.600 if you want to deliver

01:07:09.600 spiritual enrichment

01:07:10.700 and edification

01:07:11.340 give them something

01:07:13.680 distinct

01:07:14.380 from what they're

01:07:15.520 surrounded by

01:07:16.340 every day

01:07:17.160 in this loud 1.00

01:07:18.120 dumb 1.00

01:07:18.700 obnoxious 1.00

01:07:19.600 demoralizing culture

01:07:21.100 give them beauty

01:07:23.660 give them wisdom

01:07:25.260 give them something

01:07:26.140 solemn

01:07:26.880 and mystical

01:07:27.480 and dignified

01:07:28.340 and real

01:07:29.020 and true

01:07:29.900 that's what the church

01:07:32.260 should be there

01:07:32.780 to provide

01:07:33.380 not pyrotechnics

01:07:36.260 and tanks

01:07:36.980 and certainly

01:07:39.220 not male strippers

01:07:40.180 and that is why

01:07:42.080 the Stronger Men's Conference

01:07:43.400 is today

01:07:44.760 canceled

01:07:45.980 that'll do it

01:07:47.520 for the show today

01:07:47.900 thanks for watching

01:07:48.420 thanks for listening

01:07:48.940 talk to you tomorrow

01:07:49.540 have a great day

01:07:50.220 Godspeed

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