Ep. 1348 - Activists Who Shut Down Highways Aren't 'Protesters.' They're Terrorists.
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Summary
Pro-Hamas demonstrators shut down major highways and bridges across the country yesterday. This is not a protest. It s terrorism. Plus, controversy erupts at a Christian men s conference after somehow, for some reason, a male stripper was invited on stage to perform shirtless on a pole.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, pro-Hamas demonstrators shut down major highways and bridges across the country.
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Also, Trump's trial in New York is underway, and after just the first day of the proceedings,
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it's extremely clear that he has no shot of anything resembling a fair trial.
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Plus, controversy erupts at a Christian men's conference after somehow, for some reason,
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a male stripper was invited on stage to perform shirtless on a pole.
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The first target in any protracted military campaign is pretty much always infrastructure.
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When the U.S. invaded Iraq with a shock and awe strategy, we hit the bridges right away.
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We did the same thing in Yugoslavia, Vietnam, Korea.
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If you shut down transportation, you shut down the country.
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The purpose of taking out bridges and airports isn't to convince anyone that you're right.
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The point is to disable your enemy as quickly as possible and to make them vulnerable to further attack.
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And after what happened yesterday, it's clear that the domestic enemies of the United States,
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the ones we've imported and that our universities have indoctrinated,
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understand the importance of infrastructure very well.
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In a series of coordinated attacks, Hamas sympathizers stormed bridges and airports all over the country.
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And I'm going to go through several of these attacks,
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and I'll start with by far the most significant and the longest lasting interruption.
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It took place on both the Golden Gate Bridge and Interstate 880 in Oakland.
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Another protest turned the morning commute into a parking lot,
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leaving many drivers angry and asking what will stop these from happening.
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what can be done to prevent major traffic arteries from getting shut down for hours?
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It has been actions such as these that people have been taking across the world
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Woods Irvin wasn't involved in today's protest,
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but was one of the demonstrators who shut down the Bay Bridge in November.
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Hospitals say in that case, several organ donations were delayed because of the backup.
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78 people were arrested and charged, but all avoided jail time,
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where they would have to complete five hours of community service each.
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So just a month ago, activists shut down the Bay Bridge,
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and as you just heard, they delayed several organ donations.
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The San Francisco Chronicle reported that at least one person had a medical emergency
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while he was stuck in traffic, but nothing happened to any of the people responsible for that.
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They got something like five hours of community service.
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So yesterday, it happened again, and this time on the Golden Gate Bridge in the interstate.
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News reports like the one you just saw always say that protesters are shutting down traffic,
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and that is accurate, but it only tells part of the story.
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The other part is that the political leaders in these cities are also choosing to shut down traffic
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Now, it would be exceedingly easy to not only clear these blockades,
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but also dissuade anyone else from ever pulling a stunt like this again.
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All you have to do is pull them off the road by force,
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and then hit them with every criminal charge even vaguely applicable, including terrorism charges.
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Just throw the whole book, the entire book, at just one of these people.
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Or a lot more than one would be my preference, but just one is all it would take.
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One person, one time, and it will never happen again.
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Give one of them prison time, real prison time, like 15 years of prison time,
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and the problem is solved forever, just like that.
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Nobody will ever shut down a road in this country ever again.
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Instead, the authorities in California are doing the opposite.
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They gave these criminals a few hours of community service the last time they did it,
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and this time they let them shut down one of the longest bridges in the country
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I mean, why wait five hours if you're going to make the arrest anyway?
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All told, 38 people were ultimately arrested between the Golden Gate Bridge
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and the Oakland Interstate, and they were hit with a variety of charges,
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None of these charges, it's important to point out,
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carry a potential sentence of over a decade in prison.
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Because that kind of penalty in this country is now reserved for pro-life demonstrators
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who pray outside of abortion clinics and allegedly block access to the abortion facility.
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Now, if you do that, as we've seen, you get the pre-dawn SWAT team raid from the DOJ,
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and a very good chance that you spend the next 10 years in prison.
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But if you sit on the highway for five hours and prevent thousands of people from getting where they need to go,
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In fact, false imprisonment is the most serious charge that any of these demonstrators face,
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and the max you can get for that in California is something like four years.
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And of course, it's virtually certain that they're not going to serve that time of four years
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They'll get community service, probably, and then they'll be out doing the same thing again
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And that's odd, even by the Biden administration's own logic,
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because for all we know, there might have been people on these roads who were headed to get abortions.
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And they were delayed or even blocked from doing so.
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Will the DOJ look into the number of Californians who had to reschedule their abortions yesterday
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Think of how many children might still be alive because of these protesters.
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Think about how many opportunities to murder babies were squandered.
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That's the kind of thing that normally keeps Merrick Garland up at night.
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Now, if pro-lifers deserve a decade in prison for mildly inconveniencing people
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who are trying to access one abortion clinic in Nashville,
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then that means that these people deserve a century in prison.
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But of course, they're on the left, so they can literally do whatever they want all the time.
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There will be no DOJ probe into the organizers of this protest.
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Yet increasingly, it's clear that there should be.
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According to San Francisco's local news station, KRON,
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a woman named Ellen Caminiti was one of the organizers of the Golden Gate protest yesterday.
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She was apparently off-site serving as a representative.
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And I looked her up, and it turns out that she's the communications director
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at a nonprofit called the National Center for Lesbian Rights, or NCLR.
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So this is an organization that gets tax breaks to advance lesbian rights.
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And at 9 a.m. on Monday, their communications director
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was organizing a criminal blockade of one of the most important bridges in the country.
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Now, one of my producers reached out to Ellen Caminiti about this,
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That is just my day job, which is completely separate from this.
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Now, what's confusing about that, again, is that, you know, she says it was her day job.
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Well, this blockade took place first thing Monday morning,
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which counts, you would think, as during the day.
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So it sounds like Ellen Caminiti's day job is shutting down infrastructure in San Francisco
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We followed up with NCLR to ask them about this,
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and we wanted to know if they had any reaction whatsoever
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to their employee assisting in a criminal blockade during the workday.
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They didn't respond to that question, not surprisingly.
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All they said is that they had nothing to do with the blockade.
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Now, you'd think that if NCLR disagreed with what their employee did during work hours,
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At the very least, they would condemn what she did,
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especially given that she did it on behalf of Hamas,
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which is a group that would happily toss everyone in their organization off of a rooftop.
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That's because NCLR, like many so-called left-wing public interest nonprofits,
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isn't really working in the public interest at all, of course.
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It's a tax shelter that employs unhinged activists who want to destroy this country.
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They should lose their tax-exempt nonprofit status immediately.
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Nonprofits aren't supposed to have anything remotely to do with criminal activity,
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and it definitely sounds like, at a minimum, they're tacitly endorsing exactly that.
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But of course, you know, there's not going to be any DOJ investigation,
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because the Biden administration wants these kinds of blockades to occur.
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That's why they took place all day yesterday, all over the country.
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In Seattle, demonstrators blocked access to the airport, forcing travelers to walk to the terminal.
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In Chicago, they blocked the highway leading to O'Hare Airport.
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In Dearborn, Michigan, a caravan of Hamas sympathizers backed up traffic.
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In Fremont, California, they attacked a Tesla production facility,
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apparently because of Elon Musk's tweets that they were upset about,
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forcing the plant to declare an emergency and close.
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Now, in all of these cases, except for the situation in Fremont,
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there wasn't much of a police response, at least not initially.
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In Seattle, officers eventually arrested the people blockading the roadway.
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Julio Rosas reports that on the Brooklyn Bridge,
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the NYPD made an effort to stop the demonstrators and succeeded in stopping about half of them,
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As far as I could tell, the only decisive reaction to these riots took place,
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not surprisingly, in Florida, in Miami, Florida specifically,
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where police hauled away the demonstrators the moment they broke the law.
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Huh. Well, look at that. The police just dragged them away. That's it. It's not hard.
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Takes a few minutes, and that's it. Problem solved, and the whole city isn't held hostage
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by a handful of terrorists. Just throw them in jail and make an example of them. Governor Ron
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DeSantis' communications director uploaded the footage you just saw along with this message,
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quote, in Florida, we drag these people out of the road and arrest them,
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which is obviously the right response, as rare as it may be. And when police don't do this
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immediately, then citizens have every right to do it themselves. I mean, every moral right to do it
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themselves. As Senator Tom Cotton put it, quote, I encourage people who get stuck behind the pro-Hamas
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mobs blocking traffic, take matters into your own hands to get them out of the way. It's time to put
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an end to this nonsense. Now, of course, morally, to stipulate morally, you have every right
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to do that. The problem with what Tom Cotton said, and the problem with him encouraging people to do
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that, is that if somebody does take matters into their own hands, even though they are totally
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morally justified in doing so, if they do, there's a very good chance we all know they'll spend the rest
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of their life in prison. Okay, we've seen people that clearly, I mean, look at the Daniel Penny
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situation. We've seen people clearly acting in self-defense, in defense of the community,
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against individuals who are violent and erratic, and they either go to prison or the court tries
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to put them in prison. So imagine something like this in this situation. Well, the Biden DOJ will
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destroy whoever tries to do that. They'll do nothing to protect innocent people from these
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terrorists. But the moment someone tries to take action, even if it's morally justified,
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then the feds will hunt them down. It's almost like that's what the Biden administration wants
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to happen at this point. It's almost like that's exactly why they aren't enforcing the law here,
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why they are allowing these terrorists to do this. It appears to be what they want in New York.
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Yesterday, police officers didn't have much of a reaction when a Hamas sympathizer lit an American
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flag on fire and shouted, death to America, right in front of about five cops. He just did that
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Now, this is something of an aside, but if you call yourself America first, and of course
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a lot of people do now, it goes without saying that you should be stridently opposed to people
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who shout death to America, burn American flags, and go out of their way to cause problems
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for American citizens, for regular American citizens who are just trying to get to work
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If your America first principle somehow find common cause with people who wish death on
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America and its people, then that's a good indication that you are at best very confused.
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But that confusion needs to end at this point, because this is well past the realm of online
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There are now coordinated attacks occurring all over the country targeting our infrastructure.
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You know, you hear a lot of people say, when we see things like this, they say, well, why
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They're not going to convince anyone to support their cause by blocking traffic or shutting
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Well, yeah, that's because the objective of Hamas sympathizers living in this country, it's
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Disrupting infrastructure, as always, is just the first phase in a much larger campaign that
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And unless more states follow Florida's lead and shut this down immediately, then very
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The Daily Wire reports the Supreme Court ruled Monday to allow an Idaho law protecting children
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from life-altering transgender procedures to go into effect while the law is challenged in lower
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The law passed last year bans procedures like double mastectomies on girls who identify as
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boys and giving children puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, which has been linked
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The law also stipulates that doctors who perform transgender procedures on kids could go to
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The decision means the law will go into effect for the state except for two families who
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say their children identify as transgender and who sued with the help of the ACLU, claiming
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Justices Neil Gorsuch, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett all
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sided with Idaho Attorney General Raul Labrador, who appealed to the court to turn back a sweeping
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injunction placed on the law by a federal judge who completely blocked the law.
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Kentonji Brown-Jackson, Sotomayor, and Kagan all dissented, as you would expect.
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So, just to clarify, so this was not, as you heard, it was not the Supreme Court ruling
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in favor of the Idaho law itself, which bans child mutilation.
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So they're not ruling on the merits of the case.
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Instead, they're overturning the injunction placed on the law by a federal judge who shut
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down the entire law from being implemented after two families sued because they said that
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they needed to castrate their kids, and the law prevented them from doing that.
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So, and this has become a trend, by the way, in recent years, where federal judges will just
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come in and issue sweeping injunctions, suspending entire laws for everybody because one person
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It's a way for the judge to at least temporarily shut down a law that he doesn't like.
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You don't even need to let the lawsuit go through.
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Just, if there is a lawsuit, shut down the whole law.
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And so, again, the Supreme Court has not ruled on the merits of the case, but rather on the
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merits of the injunction, which they found to be far too broad, and of course it was.
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And the upshot, though, is that the Idaho law can now go into effect, but the lawsuit
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And I think, you know, eventually the Supreme Court is going to have to rule on the actual
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case itself, whether this case or another one, but eventually they're going to have to
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make a ruling on whether states have the legal right to ban these procedures.
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And, and obviously they absolutely do have the legal right to do so.
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And not just the right, in fact, but the duty, the obligation.
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I mean, I, if I'm on the Supreme Court, if Judge Walsh is on the Supreme Court, then I'm
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ruling that, that it's, in fact, it's a, it's a violation of a child's human rights to do
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So not only do states have the right to ban it, but in fact, no state has the right to,
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You don't, as a, as a, you know, a doctor does not have the right to do that to a child.
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Because it is a violation of the child's human rights.
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But I do think that if we get to a point that the Supreme Court is actually ruling on the merits
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of one of these laws, at least with the Supreme Court and its current makeup, then it's a,
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Like, obviously, of course, of course, states have the right to ban this.
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And, and again, not only do they have the right, but the moral obligation.
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Daily Wire has an update on the first day of Trump's trial in New York.
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At least 50 prospective jurors were dismissed by Judge Juan Merchant on Monday for admitting
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that they would struggle to remain fair during the trial, with white women making up many of
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The trial, where the former president stands accused of falsifying business records to cover
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up an alleged affair with porn actress Stormy Daniels, began on Monday, marking the first
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proceedings in a criminal trial against a former U.S. president.
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In addition to the 50 prospective jurors who were dismissed for their partiality, at least nine
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more people raised their hand when the judge asked if they could not serve on the jury for
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Of the 96 prospective jurors who entered the courtroom, only 34 remained after the dismissals.
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The other was, it says here at the end of the day, Trump's team requested that the former
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president be excused from the trial next Thursday so we can hear arguments at the U.S. Supreme
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Court on his immunity claim stemming from his Washington, D.C. election interference case.
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So on that last point, the judge is not going, it looks like the judge is not going to let Trump
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And he's not going to let Trump attend his son's high school graduation, which is coming up soon.
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And here is Trump afterwards talking about that.
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As you know, my son has graduated from high school and it looks like the judge will not
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let me go through the graduation of my son who's worked very, very hard.
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He's very proud of the fact that he did so well and I was looking forward for years to
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have his graduation with his mother and father there.
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And it looks like the judge isn't going to allow me to escape this scam.
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If you read all of the legal pundits, all of the legal scholars today, there's not one
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that I see that said this is a case that should be brought to a trial.
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In addition, as you know, next Thursday, we're before the United States Supreme Court at a
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And this is something that we've been waiting for a long time.
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And the judge, of course, is not going to allow us.
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He's a very conflicted judge and he's not going to allow us to go to that.
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He won't allow me to leave here for a half a day, go to D.C. and go before the United
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States Supreme Court because he thinks he's superior, I guess, to the Supreme Court.
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We have a real problem with a lot of things having to do with this trial, including the
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Because you go right outside and people are being muffed and killed all day long.
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And he's sitting here all day with about 10 or 12 prosecutors.
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So everything you said there is, of course, true.
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Well, everything except for the bit about how legal scholars all agree that it's a scam
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Unfortunately, there are plenty of legal scholars and so-called experts who are totally politically
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compromised and so have not agreed on that point.
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But and on top of all that, we're not on top of it, but this is, you know, of course,
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an important facet of it is that it is impossible for Trump to get a fair trial.
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And a lot of people are focused on the fact that this is happening in New York.
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And so even more so in New York, you're not gonna get a fair trial.
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But I don't think where could he go in the in the on the planet and get a fair trial?
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He's he's currently running for president right now, as you may be aware.
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All of these things, anyone in the country who would be in a jury pool will be aware of.
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Even the most ignorant here, you're looking for the most ignorant possible people who have
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as little information about this as as it's possible for a person to have.
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But even someone in that group, they're at least gonna they're gonna know who he is.
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And they're going to know that it's a presidential election and that
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You would need jurors who have no preconceived notions about Trump.
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I mean, really what you want would be jurors who don't even know who he is.
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Again, you could you could do this trial somewhere in, you know, some some island somewhere in
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And you're not going to find jurors who don't know who Trump is.
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But at a minimum, you would need jurors who who have who who are impartial, who don't really care
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No opinions ahead of time about, you know, what they'd like to see happen in the case.
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And no opinions about who they whether they want to see Trump win in November or not.
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That's not just a that's not like an obstacle that they mistakenly believe that they can
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So the whole thing is a just an absolute miscarriage of justice.
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Obviously, Katie Couric was on Bill Maher's podcast for some reason.
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But she's well, she's on TV now anyway, on Bill Maher's podcast, at least on YouTube.
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And I feel like to your point, Bill, that socioeconomic disparities are a lot and class
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What and anti-intellectualism and elitism is what is driving many of these these anti-establishment,
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which are Trump voters or anti-establishment voters.
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So I think that is a huge problem that we have to address.
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I mean, globalization and, you know, the transition from an industrial to a technological society.
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I mean, I and I don't know if you've ever been jealous of some what someone else has or
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It is such a corroding and bitter, almost vile feeling.
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OK, so Couric says that Trump voters are resentful, bitter people who are anti-intellectual.
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And in fact, just to make sure that I I understand her argument here.
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She says that Trump voters are anti-intellectual, anti-establishment and and elitist.
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So she lumps elitism and anti-intellectualism and being anti-establishment altogether in
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the same pile as if it's possible for someone to be all of those things at the same time.
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How can you be elitist and anti-establishment at the same time?
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It's like accusing somebody of being, you know, a promiscuous prude.
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A prudish whore is just it's a it's a oxymoron.
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She can't choose which of the two opposite extreme labels she wants to hang around the
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And that's that's what shows how meaningless these labels are, by the way.
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She can't be fully right because her full point is incoherent and self-contradictory.
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The MAGA movement is anti-establishment because the establishment establishment has proven itself
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They're proving it right now in this sham trial in New York.
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Totally unconcerned with the welfare and well-being of American citizens.
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Because I think I think most people when they anyone who considers themselves part of the MAGA movement,
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anyone who's a Trump supporter and they hear they're accused of being anti-establishment,
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they have no problem saying, well, yeah, of course, of course, I'm anti-establishment.
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You tend to take us as an insult and of course, it's intended as an insult.
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But it's also true that in a sense, I would say MAGA is anti-intellectual.
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In that it's anti the intellectual class, the people who pass as intellectual,
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the people who call themselves that or who are who are called that.
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But the feelings of animosity towards the intellectuals,
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it's not because they are intellectuals, but because they aren't.
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And the problem with the intellectuals in our culture today is that they're not intellectual.
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The intellectuals are the ones who will tell us that men can get pregnant.
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And it's not merely that they believe these crazy things or pretend to believe them.
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But that these insane ideas originate with them.
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They're the ones who come up with the dumbest, craziest things anyone's ever said.
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And they and it filters down from them into the broader culture.
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That's what the, you know, the intellectual class is now.
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We have people graduating, as we talked about last week, we have people graduating from Yale
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and then going on to have prominent careers in politics and national politics.
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As we saw last week, that they don't know what the moon is.
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Sheila Jackson Lee thinks that the moon is a gaseous planet.
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So the intellectual class is mediocre and stupid and morally corrupt and intellectually bankrupt.
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The people go to Trump rallies are about as far from elitist as you can get.
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Now, if you listen to the way she phrases it, she says anti-intellectual.
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So it's possible that she's accusing them of being anti-intellectual and anti-elite.
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So maybe she's accusing them not of being elite, but of being opposed to elitism.
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But no matter how you look at it, it's confused.
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Most people want to have sex with robots, new robo-sexuality study reveals.
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The article says, new research has revealed who would most likely be interested in having sex with robots.
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Technology has moved on in leaps and bounds from the days of blow-up dolls to realistic sex robots,
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which have been built to satisfy, quote-unquote.
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Quote, while a few have made their way onto the market, development continues to improve on what's available.
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Along with the vast shift towards looking realistic, investing in new sex aids has never been easier.
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For the shy folk who didn't relish the idea of strolling into a store and pulling one down off the shelf,
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internet shopping has put pay to that awkward encounter.
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Is it a perv-only pursuit or would easily embarrassed others take the plunge now that they can hide behind a keyboard?
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This is the most British article I've ever read.
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A couple of boffins in Canada sought to find out the answers by probing a number of undergraduates at their disposal.
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Anyway, the point is that they did this study to find out who would be likely to take advantage of sex dolls,
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The problem is that, you know, the headline says that most people want sex robots.
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I don't see where the actual text of the article lays that out, that most people want that.
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I'm not sure where they get the most people from.
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But I have no doubt that a lot of people right now would take advantage of this option if it was made available to them.
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And I also have no doubt, whether there's any study that bears this out right now or not,
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I have no doubt personally that eventually most people would be quote-unquote robosexuals,
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which is apparently a term now, because the stage has been set for this.
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Now, first of all, we normalized alternative quote-unquote sexualities.
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Second, we have millions of people who are already hooked on, you know, virtual sex in the form of internet porn.
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Third, we have a loneliness epidemic of people feeling isolated and alone and desperate for human connection.
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And now you develop technology to actually have sex robots.
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You make them cheap enough for people to buy, and you remove all the stigma around it.
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If that happens, then, yeah, I think you're going to see probably billions of people
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who are sexually active exclusively with robots.
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It's the conclusion that we have been setting up for.
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And then when that happens, like, well, then you have the extinction of the human race, basically.
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And it's not just that people won't reproduce anymore.
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Young people are already foregoing marriage and family life.
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And then you give people robots as a sexual outlet, and you've just kind of put the final nail in the birth rates coffin.
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I think the other thing, though, is that we're taking away everything that drives and motivates people, especially men.
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We're taking away all the reasons people have, or rather have had in the past, to, like, leave their homes.
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And more than leave their homes, actually go out and achieve great things.
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And like I said, this is not a problem that begins with the proliferation of sex robots.
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You know, I've been reading a book right now by Hampton Sides called The Wide, Wide Sea.
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And I'm a huge fan of the author Hampton Sides.
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And this one is about the final voyage of Captain James Cook.
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This was a guy in the 1700s who traveled all over the globe, tens of thousands of miles all around the globe, east to west, north to south, discovering new land, you know, reshaping the map, changing the world as it was at the time.
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And what I love about these stories, and the thing that draws me to them, is that these are stories of men who are driven to do extraordinary things and endure just incredible hardship and deprivation.
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Because back in the 18th century, and for centuries before that, and for at least a century after that, going on a voyage across the ocean, that was a death sentence for a huge number of the men.
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They knew before they set sail that probably half of them would die and would never see their homes again.
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Like, die of scurvy and dysentery and hypothermia and starvation.
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And if you got on one of these ships, it's like, there's a 50% chance that's going to happen to you.
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Or they might die in more horrifying ways than that.
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They might die, they might get kidnapped and eaten by cannibals on an island somewhere.
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And even if they survive, they're still going to be stuck on a ship for years, years, and years at a time with rats and roaches and the stench of human waste.
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You know, it's either too cold or too hot and it's wet all the time.
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And you're eating stale, moldy bread and salty, spoiled meat.
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And yet, these guys would willingly sign up for that experience.
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Especially because it's so different from the way people are wired today.
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The idea of anyone willingly putting themselves into a position like that, foregoing comfort to that extent, it's just unthinkable.
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You know, they were motivated by the desire to explore, the desire to find out what the world looked like.
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You know, they dreamed of riches and resources and everything.
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And they did it for honor, for respect, for increasing their station in life.
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And all of these powerful human desires drove them to do incredible, courageous things.
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Well, the point is that the more that people are satiated, the more that their base desires are met and met on demand in their homes.
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The more that happens, the less they're motivated to go out and pursue anything.
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Their base desires are met all the time, always, at a moment's notice.
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And after a while, they don't even develop any other higher sort of desires, any loftier desires.
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And even the base desires, they don't feel those with any great passion or intensity because the satiation of that desire is always within arm's reach.
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And so, again, we're already, this is the world we already live in, where people just don't, there's no reason to leave your house.
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And the idea, like, if you do leave your house, okay, you leave and you come back.
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But the idea of leaving to do something great and embrace hardship knowingly, well, that, I think, to most people is unthinkable.
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And, you know, we're, that's the trend and there's no signs of it slowing down, unfortunately.
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We talked yesterday about Bill Maher kind of breaking the vow of silence among pro-abortion people by actually saying out loud what they all really believe,
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which is that they realize that abortion obviously kills a human life, that it is murder.
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But he said he's okay with that because there are too many people on the planet already,
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and so he's not going to miss these babies that are killed.
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First comment says, the difference between killing Maher, and I made the point that that logic could just as easily apply to Bill Maher himself.
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If we can justify murder based on the fact that there's some sort of surplus of people because people are commodities,
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and that's how Bill Maher looks at them, well, then why can't we kill Bill Maher?
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The difference between killing Bill Maher and an embryo slash fetus is that by killing Maher, you hurt those to whom he's a loved one,
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whereas the embryo slash fetus is a loved one to no one.
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That's pretty dark because what you're arguing is that a person's moral worth is dependent on how other people feel about that person.
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That if you are loved by others, then you have worth and you shouldn't be killed, but if you're not, then we can kill you?
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It also means that someone who is loved by a lot of people is worth more than someone who is loved by fewer.
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So, for example, Taylor Swift is, by your logic, is worth way more than you are or I am.
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Because if she's killed, that would be a great tragedy to, like, millions of people.
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As that wouldn't be the case for you, and it wouldn't be the case for me.
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In fact, I'm in a worse spot because if I'm killed, then, in fact, it's a cause of celebration for a lot of people.
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It's just, I don't think that you want to go down that road when you're assessing who has worth and who doesn't.
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If this is the point, if you try to do anything but just accept that everybody has moral worth,
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that it comes by the nature of the fact that we are human beings created by God,
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which does not mean that we have the right to keep living no matter what, no matter what we do, okay?
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If we commit a horrendous crime, if we try to kill someone else, they have to kill us in self-defense and stuff like, you know.
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And in that case, but we still have, as by the nature of being human, we have moral worth and other people don't have more worth than we do.
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So, if you try to come up with any other way of looking at it, then this is what you end up with.
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I mean, you end up with very dark scenarios like this.
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I mean, what about, just a hypothetical here, you know, you're walking through the woods
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and you stumble across some hermit living in a cabin in the woods and no family, nobody even knows that he's alive, right?
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He's been living off the grid, you know, living the life, a very enviable life, in fact, for, you know, for decades.
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So, the old, if a tree falls in a forest thing, but if you kill a hermit in the forest and no one knows that it happens, it doesn't matter.
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Finally, if Matt cared about all lives, he would care about the innocent Ukrainians getting slaughtered.
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How can Matt choose not to care about some lives being lost that don't affect him,
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but not understand when Marr makes the same argument?
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Yes, I care in a general abstract sense about people suffering around the globe.
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But billions of people are suffering in billions of different ways every second of the day.
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Like, am I supposed to walk around overwhelmed by grief about all of that all the time?
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And why do you make special mention of Ukraine when there are people suffering in equal if not greater measure right now in Ethiopia and Indonesia and everywhere else?
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My point is that we can and must prioritize the people who are closest to us, our own family, our own friends, our own communities, our own country.
00:48:26.200
I care more about my own children than I do about your children.
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If my child and your child were in a burning building and I could only save one, there's nothing to think about.
00:48:41.360
I care so much more about my own kid than I do about your kids or you.
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If I didn't care more about my own, if I cared about my own kids the same way that I care about everybody else in the world, that would make me a horrible person.
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I'd be a neglectful, terrible father in that case.
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But all of that is beside the point because relating this back to abortion, my whole point is that the worth of a human being is not dependent on how other people feel about them.
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So, yes, if my child is in a burning building, I'm going to save my child over any other human being.
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Does that mean that I believe that my child objectively has more moral worth than any other person on the planet?
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But my responsibility, my relationship with, my, you know, emotional attachment to, like, that's...
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But that's what makes me prioritize my own child.
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Yet that is, again, that's not how we assess the actual objective moral worth of human beings.
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Well, if you run a Christian church and you decide to hold a Christian conference, let's say a conference for men, it's probably a bad sign if anything at the conference makes headlines or trends on Twitter.
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And if something does make headlines and it does trend, you certainly don't want those headlines to be shocking and sort of hilarious in a morbid and cringy and depressing way.
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You don't want it to be the kind of thing that people see and they raise their eyebrows and say, wait, what?
00:51:26.380
That's generally not the type of reaction you hope for.
00:51:28.540
And yet that is the reaction that I had and I think everyone else had this week when video from the Stronger Men's Conference in Missouri started circulating on social media.
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The first tweet I saw was from Colin Rugg, and here's what he posted.
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Quote, Pastor Mark Driscoll gets kicked off stage at a men's conference after he calls out Pastor John Lindell for allowing a demonstration from a male stripper.
00:51:52.740
Now, you read that and you think that there must be more to the story.
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It's just that the full context doesn't make it much better than it sounds.
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Quote, the Stronger Men's Conference, an annual event hosted by the James River Church, exists to inspire and equip men to live out God's vision for manhood to be the husbands, fathers, and leaders God has called them to be, according to a news release.
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It was held at the Great Southern Bank Arena on April 12th and 13th.
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Driscoll's remarks came following a performance from Alex Magala, a sword swallower who took off his shirt, climbed up a pole, and swallowed a sword live at the conference.
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Now, before we listen to Driscoll's rebuke, let's see a clip of the act in question.
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Keep in mind that this is a Christian conference for men, men specifically who are looking for guidance and inspiration to become better husbands and fathers.
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And this is how they apparently kick things off.
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So he swallows the sword and then he goes back up the pole.
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And you notice like the older guys in the front row in ball caps and T-shirts,
00:54:18.940
they look like they enjoy nothing so much as cutting the lawn on a Saturday morning.
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And here is this Vegas sword swallower dramatically ripping off his shirt and climbing a stripper pole.
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And yes, this performer, Alex Magala, is apparently a former male stripper.
00:54:36.920
Now, perhaps we can be generous enough to James River Church to assume that they didn't know that.
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And, you know, and yeah, I think they probably didn't,
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although it would mean that they aren't even Googling the people they pay to perform at their conferences.
00:54:54.440
Let's assume that his full career resume was not known.
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No, let's assume that they failed to do even five minutes of due diligence.
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Even so, why would you think that a bunch of 55-year-old men at a Christian men's conference would want to see that?
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And the point still stands, even if you argue, as some have, that there was nothing sexual about the performance.
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Now, I think that interpretation stretches the bounds of credulity a bit too far.
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I mean, this is an actual former male stripper ripping his shirt off and performing on a pole.
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It's like, it's not difficult to connect the dots here.
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In fact, I say he's a former male stripper, but I'm not even sure that the former qualification is true or not.
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But a Daily Mail article from 2016 when he was on Britain's Got Talent says this, quote,
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When he's not performing on the Family Friendly Talent Show, the 26-year-old Soviet-born performer leads a more X-rated lifestyle,
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wooing all female audiences and gay nightclubbers.
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Astonishing photos show Magala, a college dropout, on stage as a pole-dancing striptease artiste in Los Angeles and Las Vegas.
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Among his regular hangouts is the Abbey Gay Club in Hollywood, dubbed the best gay bar in the world.
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So, as of 2016, he was frequenting gay bars in Hollywood.
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And now he's doing gigs for Christian men's conferences.
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Now, whether he also still has his stripper side hustle going, I don't know.
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And it's irrelevant because, like, it's, again, connect the dots.
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And when there's a stripper taking his shirt off and performing on a pole, there's, well, there's something that doesn't belong at a Christian conference, at least.
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But even putting the stripper stuff entirely to the side, the question still remains.
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Why would you think that a bunch of middle-aged men at a men's conference would want to see that?
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What about that performance is supposed to speak to men, much less inspire them in their walk with Christ?
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Even if this was just normal acrobatics, right?
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I've never met a middle-aged man who has any real interest in acrobats.
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And I certainly haven't met a man who goes to a Christian conference in hopes of witnessing an acrobat, especially not one of the shirtless and male variety.
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And that's apparently how Mark Driscoll felt about it.
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And he said so once he got on stage, only to then be thrown off stage and suffer his own rebuke by Pastor John Lindell.
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The reason I'm hoarse is I have been praying for you, and my heart is very burnt for you.
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And I want to be very careful with this, and it's not what I want to say, but the Jezebel spirit has already been here.
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Before the word of God was open, there was a platform.
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The same thing that's used in the strip club for women who have the Jezebel spirit to seduce men.
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In front of that was a man who ripped his shirt off like a woman does in front of a pole at a strip club.
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And then he swallowed a sword, and Jesus cried.
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If Mark wanted to say that, you should have said it to me first.
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Matthew 18. Matthew 18. If your brother offends you, go to him privately.
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I talked to Mark for a half hour. There was not one word in that. He's out of line.
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So John Liddell throws Matthew 18 at Driscoll, saying that he should have spoken to him privately.
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And in many circumstances, I would agree. I mean, I believe strongly in addressing things
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privately rather than publicly whenever possible. But in this case, when you're speaking at a public
01:00:00.400
event and you strongly object to something that was done or said at that same event before you get
01:00:05.880
on stage, it becomes necessary to address it publicly. If you don't want to be called out
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publicly at a Christian conference, don't invite male strippers to perform. It's like a pretty
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simple equation. And if I had been invited to speak at that event and I found out that my opening
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act was the dude dancing on a pole, I would have done exactly as Mark Driscoll did. Because if I
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did anything else, if I didn't say anything, it would seem like I was a willing party to this spectacle.
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Now, it's clear that Driscoll is in the right. Liddell is desperately in the wrong. And everyone
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involved in hiring the former male stripper, or perhaps not so former, I don't know,
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should be fired or should resign. I mean, that much is obvious to any thinking person.
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But what might be less obvious is the why here. Why would they do this? Like, how is this mistake
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made? Assuming again that it was a mistake, assuming that they didn't actually intend to hire a stripper,
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which I still think is a safe assumption, though perhaps I'm giving too much grace
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to them with my interpretation. Yet, assuming it was a mistake, how was that mistake made? How did
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James River Church end up in this situation? Well, it's not really hard to see how. Because you go
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back to that video of Driscoll and Liddell, you notice the decor in the background of the arena.
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The backdrop for the stage is a giant picture of a motorcycle.
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Why is there a 50-foot motorcycle picture up on the stage? What does that have to do with
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inspiring Christian men to be better fathers and husbands? Now, there's obviously nothing morally
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objectionable about a picture of a motorcycle, but it does seem sort of random and ridiculous.
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Speaking of which, consider this video from last year's Stronger Men's Conference, because they've
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been doing this for, I don't know how many years, several years. And at last year's event, there were
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no strippers as far as I know. But they did have this. Watch.
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shooting fake guns in the air while riding over
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and then it dives deeper into the lameness and cringiness
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but then it goes deeper still and it's funny again
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just not in any way that the church would have intended