The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1358 - The Government Floods The Country With Criminals And Punishes You If You Defend Yourself

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, prosecutors tried to throw an elderly man in prison for defending his property against illegal alien criminals.

00:00:06.120 They didn't succeed, but you need to hear the details of this case to understand just how egregious and malicious this prosecution was.

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00:00:17.580 Drew Barrymore and Kamala Harris combined forces for the cringiest moment of 2024 so far.

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00:01:58.580 On Monday, prosecutors in Arizona decided not to retry George Allen Kelly after his prosecution resulted in a hung jury last week.

00:02:06.980 Kelly, you may remember, is the Arizona rancher who was accused of shooting and killing a Mexican national named Gabriel Cuen Butamayo,

00:02:14.920 who was illegally trespassing on his property.

00:02:17.320 Gabriel had previously been caught illegally in the United States several times before his death.

00:02:21.980 He was most recently deported in 2016.

00:02:23.740 Now, as this trial got underway, I defended Kelly based on a pretty simple principle,

00:02:28.880 which is that American citizens have a right to defend their property and their families and themselves.

00:02:34.500 And that's all we really needed to say or know about this case.

00:02:37.280 Like, that should be it.

00:02:39.100 Those men had no right to be on his property.

00:02:41.660 And in this case, they didn't even have the right to be in this country, let alone on his property.

00:02:45.960 And so it's an egregious miscarriage of justice to prosecute a man for defending his property from illegal invaders.

00:02:52.120 Invaders who are illegal two times over.

00:02:55.900 But so we already knew that.

00:02:57.180 We already knew, like, enough to know that this is a total miscarriage of justice.

00:03:01.760 But I have to admit that until I looked more closely into the trial, I had no idea exactly how outrageous this prosecution was.

00:03:11.420 I didn't fully understand the extent of the depravity that motivated these prosecutors to try to ruin the life of a rancher in his 70s

00:03:19.040 because he exercised his right of self-defense.

00:03:21.100 So however unjust you think this case is, it's even worse than that.

00:03:26.860 As I'll explain in a moment, at trial, the prosecution couldn't even prove that Kelly was responsible for killing Gabriel.

00:03:34.160 In other words, it's not just that the prosecution failed to disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt, which is their burden.

00:03:41.720 The prosecution also failed to prove that Kelly had committed any form of homicide at all.

00:03:45.980 Apparently, a single lone juror is the only reason that George Allen Kelly wasn't acquitted outright.

00:03:52.620 And after you hear what happened in this case, the idea that even one guy on the jury or member of the jury would want to convict at all is truly unbelievable.

00:04:00.460 So let's begin with the prosecution's opening statement.

00:04:04.800 This is where the state had the opportunity to tease its star witness, a Honduran national named Daniel Ramirez.

00:04:11.360 Supposedly Ramirez, who was also illegally on Kelly's property, witnessed Kelly murder Gabriel in cold blood.

00:04:19.080 And Ramirez's testimony, the prosecutor suggested, would be airtight, like conclusive.

00:04:26.160 Watch.

00:04:26.520 Now, Daniel Ramirez was just steps away from his companion when he saw Gabriel shot in the back.

00:04:41.260 And he saw Gabriel fall to his death.

00:04:46.900 Daniel had to run for his life because the shots were still ringing out all around him.

00:04:53.760 Now, the state anticipates that Daniel will come here to tell you about what happened to him that day.

00:05:03.760 Ladies and gentlemen, that is state versus George Allen Kelly in a nutshell.

00:05:09.480 So that's the prosecution's promise.

00:05:12.960 And it sets a pretty high bar.

00:05:16.060 Gabriel's companion, quote unquote, not his criminal accomplice, but his companion, the prosecutor says, saw Gabriel get shot in the back because this maniac rancher was shooting wildly at them.

00:05:28.620 And she says that is the state versus George Allen Kelly in a nutshell.

00:05:31.960 And, well, that turned out to be true, although not in the way that the prosecutor intended.

00:05:37.460 So behold, the testimony of star witness Daniel Ramirez here.

00:05:42.460 And so you told investigators in this case that you knew someone or you recognized someone who was in the group.

00:05:51.460 And that was this person named Ramon, right?

00:05:54.140 So right before we left for lunch, you testified that you had a conversation with investigators.

00:06:18.100 And there was a person who accompanied you in this group, and his name was Ramon, and that that person was with you.

00:06:26.620 You testified to that before lunch.

00:06:28.420 Do you remember that testimony?

00:06:48.100 No, no, no, no.

00:06:50.720 You don't remember telling us that before we took the lunch break?

00:06:54.620 I mean, it's painful to listen to.

00:07:04.320 It's like she's questioning a brick wall, basically.

00:07:06.660 The guy just sits there staring with a glazed expression.

00:07:10.360 He doesn't even blink, I noticed.

00:07:11.720 He's just like, doesn't appear to be even fully conscious.

00:07:15.200 But through the translator, we learn that Ramirez can't remember much of anything, including what he said under oath during the trial right before the lunch break.

00:07:25.320 This is the companion, quote unquote, who was supposed to convince us that he remembers everything about the day that George Kelly murdered his buddy for no reason out of the blue.

00:07:34.720 Now, I'm not going to show you all the testimony because, you know, it's just too long, but also it's just excruciating to listen to.

00:07:41.920 So suffice it to say, there were so many inconsistencies with what Ramirez said that he was worse than useless as a witness.

00:07:50.680 And remember, this is their whole case in a nutshell is this guy.

00:07:54.880 The prosecutor said that.

00:07:56.800 For example, Ramirez testified that he was with Gabriel just a few meters away from the house when the shooting happened.

00:08:02.320 But the body was found more than 100 yards away from the house.

00:08:06.180 And additionally, Ramirez said that the shots went towards the house, which makes no sense.

00:08:11.060 And when he spoke to police, Ramirez first said the shooting occurred west of Nogales, only to change his mind when he was told where the rancher actually lives.

00:08:19.080 And on top of all that, Ramirez insisted that he saw his companion fall backward, but the body was discovered face down.

00:08:25.480 Oh, and Ramirez happens to be a drug smuggler, although he initially lied about that as well, of course.

00:08:31.000 And he's been caught trying to illegally enter this country between eight and ten times.

00:08:35.660 Now, if you want to give the prosecution the benefit of the doubt for some reason, you might discount all of that.

00:08:43.140 You might say that, well, this was one unreliable witness.

00:08:48.140 Sure, it's their star witness, the one they said that their whole case in a nutshell is this guy.

00:08:52.400 But, you know, surely the rest of their case was solid.

00:08:55.520 But actually, the fact that their star witness has the memory of a goldfish was just the beginning of the state's problems.

00:09:02.160 The larger issue was that under the prosecution's theory of the case, none of George Allen Kelly's actions on the day of the shooting made any sense whatsoever under their theory of the case.

00:09:11.300 So here's the timeline.

00:09:12.000 In early January 2023, a Border Patrol agent and liaison who frequently speaks to ranchers in the area advised Kelly by text message several times that illegal aliens were traveling through the area in large groups.

00:09:24.260 Quote, some may have had narcotics, the agent texted to Kelly.

00:09:28.980 That's what he told them.

00:09:30.400 And these kinds of texts continued throughout the month.

00:09:32.400 And then on January 30th, several illegals were spotted by Border Patrol in the desert of Keno Springs, Arizona, and they fled.

00:09:40.380 At least two of them ended up on Kelly's ranch, at which point, as he was making lunch, Kelly says he heard a gunshot.

00:09:46.580 So he calls the police.

00:09:47.680 He rushes outside.

00:09:48.420 He fires several warning shots from his rifle to scare them away, to warn them.

00:09:53.440 Kelly insists that the police come to his property.

00:09:56.260 They conduct a full sweep.

00:09:57.520 They're mistakenly looking for an active shooter at this point, and they don't find anything.

00:10:02.240 And then hours later, Kelly finds the body himself, calls 911 voluntarily to report it.

00:10:07.420 He doesn't hide any shell casings.

00:10:08.840 He doesn't bury the body on his 170-acre property, as he could and would have if this was a murder.

00:10:15.120 He immediately reports it.

00:10:16.500 That's what he does.

00:10:17.660 And that's, again, not exactly consistent with the theory that Kelly is a murderer who just shot somebody in cold blood.

00:10:22.380 Normally, murderers don't call the police and tell them to come search their remote property so they can find a body.

00:10:29.240 And then if police miss the body, murderers don't call the cops again to inform them that they missed it and invite them back onto their remote property again.

00:10:38.920 That's not normally how murderers operate.

00:10:41.780 But that's the prosecution's theory here.

00:10:44.540 The police came back to the ranch and decided very quickly that Kelly must have killed Gabriel, even though they couldn't find the fatal bullet anywhere.

00:10:51.100 Now, this isn't exactly solid logic, so instead of explaining it, the prosecution spent the rest of their opening statement lying about the 911 call about the body.

00:11:01.040 Listen.

00:11:02.500 This is a photograph of Gabriel Quinn with the man.

00:11:06.700 And I'm going to ask you to do something in this case that George Allen Kelly's own words tell you that he did not do.

00:11:13.380 I'm going to ask you to consider Gabriel Quinn with the man as a person, as a human being, and not, as George Kelly described him, as an animal.

00:11:27.280 So he says that Kelly called the guy an animal, which sounds bad, I guess, is how the jury's supposed to see that.

00:11:38.380 Supposedly, when Kelly was calling 911 to report that he had found a dead body, he called the man an animal. 0.93

00:11:44.220 The implication, of course, is that he's, I guess, a bigoted MAGA Republican, one of those dastardly folks who thinks that everybody from Mexico isn't human.

00:11:51.440 But the problem with this argument is that even if Kelly had called Gabriel an animal, it would, first of all, be an understandable thing to say based solely on his actions.

00:12:01.360 This guy was a criminal, a repeat offender who continually and illegally trespassed onto his property, into the country, and then onto his property in this case.

00:12:10.040 And so it would be understandable if Kelly was angry and used unkind words to describe the dead intruder.

00:12:15.620 But even if it's not, it doesn't prove that he was guilty of felony homicide.

00:12:20.380 Even if he said something really terrible about this guy after the fact, it doesn't prove anything at all.

00:12:24.720 It doesn't prove that he's guilty. It doesn't prove anything.

00:12:26.980 But if you listen to the full 911 tape, you discover that actually Kelly wasn't calling this guy an animal because of his actions or because of his nationality or ethnicity or anything like that.

00:12:38.200 What happened is that Kelly very clearly didn't want to provide any more statements to the police than he needed to.

00:12:42.980 He had a vague idea, which would later prove to be very correct, that the police would seek to use everything he said against him.

00:12:49.500 So he didn't want to be specific. He just wanted an officer to be dispatched to his property.

00:12:54.080 So this is a longer clip than we would normally play, but it's important to get the context, understand how deranged the prosecutor's lies were.

00:13:01.980 Listen.

00:13:02.100 What I'm telling you is that we need a sheriff deputy out here, 100 Willow Cross Circle, immediately, and that's all I can say, ma'am.

00:13:15.460 Okay, is anyone hurt?

00:13:20.020 I need to know because if someone's hurt, I need to send an ambulance too.

00:13:24.120 There's no, there's no.

00:13:30.100 Okay, do you feel more comfortable talking to a deputy over the phone?

00:13:33.420 Well, in other words, okay, you know, you know the thing, you have the right to remain silent and anything you can.

00:13:46.500 I understand.

00:13:47.220 You say can and will be held against you.

00:13:50.800 I'm not admitting anything I've done, but, you know, all those things tend to add up, and I don't know what happened.

00:13:57.180 I'll put it like this.

00:13:58.580 Last spring out here, there was a pickup found on East Sagebrush with a dead lady in it. 0.74

00:14:09.780 Uh-huh.

00:14:10.940 I don't know if you knew of that or not.

00:14:13.520 Yes, sir.

00:14:14.300 I'm aware of what happened.

00:14:15.960 Okay.

00:14:16.880 Is the situation similar to that?

00:14:19.160 How's that?

00:14:20.140 Is it discolored from somewhere?

00:14:23.820 Is it discolored?

00:14:24.940 Yes.

00:14:25.560 What does that mean?

00:14:27.180 Um, has it been there for a while?

00:14:29.800 Can you tell?

00:14:31.400 Uh, from, from what?

00:14:33.240 In that, in that I only approached the body to make sure that the animal, it's not a vegetable or a mineral, the animal wasn't alive and it was not alive.

00:14:44.540 Okay.

00:14:45.700 There are no signs, there was no signs of blood.

00:14:50.420 Uh, there was just a, uh, uh, an animal laid faith down.

00:14:56.940 An animal?

00:14:58.940 An animal?

00:14:59.620 An animal, and you know what an animal is?

00:15:00.980 It's not a vegetable or a mineral.

00:15:03.580 Okay.

00:15:05.880 It's a body and you know what I'm talking about.

00:15:08.180 I understand what you're talking about, George.

00:15:09.600 So, um, it's kind of a strange call to listen to, there's no doubt about it, but it's clear from that audio that Kelly is not making any kind of commentary on the person he just shot.

00:15:21.340 He's not saying illegals are animals or whatever. 0.98

00:15:23.640 However, the way the prosecutor put it in the opening statement makes it sound like he said, I just shot this animal, this dirty Mexican, whatever. 0.99

00:15:30.660 That's, that's what they want you to conjure in your mind. 0.93

00:15:33.040 But that's not what he's saying, nor is he trying to hide that there's a dead human body on the property.

00:15:37.900 He called about it.

00:15:39.180 He's trying to get somebody out there.

00:15:40.880 Instead, he's trying, albeit clumsily, to get police to the property while not admitting anything that in his mind might incriminate him.

00:15:46.540 He's not trying, he doesn't want to say much in the 911 call knowing that it's being recorded.

00:15:51.160 We can assume that that's part of what his thinking was.

00:15:54.180 And so he's just, he's just trying to get, in fact, he even clarifies that when he says animal, he means it like in the biological scientific sense that we are animals in that sense.

00:16:02.520 He makes that very clear.

00:16:05.400 Now, of course, the prosecution and the media had to insinuate otherwise because they know they don't have an actual case.

00:16:10.700 So they decided that it's best to just accuse this 70-something-year-old rancher of being a racist because of this phone call.

00:16:18.680 Now, there were other low points for the prosecution, like how they kept claiming that Gabriel was trying to live out the American dream,

00:16:24.420 even though he showed up on Kelly's property dressed in camouflage, wearing tactical boots, equipped with an encrypted two-way radio.

00:16:32.520 You know, like people do when they want to live out the American dream.

00:16:35.500 And somehow, despite that evidence, the police testified that they never considered the possibility that maybe he was a drug smuggler.

00:16:41.940 It was all, it was farcical.

00:16:43.840 But maybe the lowest point was prosecutors' attempt to question Kelly's wife, Wanda.

00:16:47.800 It was important for prosecutors to try to discredit Wanda because she testified that she saw the trespassers on the property with firearms and camo backpacks.

00:16:57.880 Watch.

00:16:58.480 Mrs. Kelly, isn't it true that you told Deputy Monterey that you heard four shots?

00:17:05.540 I'm going to object to leading.

00:17:08.040 She can answer.

00:17:10.160 You can answer.

00:17:11.940 I don't.

00:17:13.020 I was not counting.

00:17:15.440 My husband was out there facing these guys with guns.

00:17:20.360 And you think I'm going to stand there and count how many times I hear a shot? 1.00

00:17:25.360 You're crazy. 0.95

00:17:27.700 Mrs. Kelly, I'm just asking you about what you told him. 0.99

00:17:30.320 I did not tell him four.

00:17:32.000 I told him I saw two.

00:17:33.920 That's all I saw.

00:17:35.720 We're talking about the shots now.

00:17:37.640 Now the shots.

00:17:38.420 Well, I did say maybe five or six later, but I don't know.

00:17:44.920 Isn't it true, Mrs. Kelly, that you told Deputy Monterey that you believed it was four shots?

00:17:53.340 I don't remember talking to that deputy, so I don't know remember telling him four shots.

00:18:00.300 So here the prosecutors are trying to do to Wanda what the defense attorneys did to Ramirez,

00:18:06.260 except it doesn't work because Ramirez can't remember what he said before lunch that day.

00:18:11.840 He can't remember where the crime scene was.

00:18:13.580 He can't remember what direction the shots came from or what happened to his quote-unquote

00:18:17.280 companion after he was hit.

00:18:19.280 By contrast, Wanda couldn't recall the precise number of gunshots that she heard during a moment

00:18:25.660 of extreme stress.

00:18:27.020 This is an elderly woman, and there's gunshots going off, and she can't remember the exact number.

00:18:32.720 Wow.

00:18:33.820 So this is supposedly the prosecution's gotcha moment.

00:18:37.480 Now the point was apparently to distract from the fact that the prosecution doesn't actually

00:18:40.780 have any evidence that Kelly even killed Gabriel because they never recovered a bullet.

00:18:45.360 They couldn't do any ballistics matching to determine whose gun fired the fatal shot

00:18:49.380 because they didn't have the evidence.

00:18:51.560 For all the authorities knew, Gabriel could have been shot somewhere off-site

00:18:55.300 and dragged to the ranch.

00:18:56.340 He could have been shot on-site by somebody else.

00:18:59.260 You know, maybe that was the bullet that Kelly says he heard.

00:19:03.060 The prosecution has no definitive answer to any of that.

00:19:06.560 Their entire case hinges instead on an elderly couple not recalling the precise amount of warning

00:19:11.340 shots that were fired.

00:19:13.500 Now, did you hear about any of these details?

00:19:16.160 Probably not.

00:19:17.140 I hadn't heard some of these details either.

00:19:20.020 And the reason I decided to do a deeper dive into this case is that I saw a thread from an account

00:19:24.180 on Twitter called Rosie Memos.

00:19:26.220 And she unearthed several incredible videos, including this footage of the sheriff in Santa

00:19:30.980 Cruz County falsely accusing Kelly of being an outsider and an extremist who wanted to,

00:19:36.220 quote, hunt me some Mexicans. 0.99

00:19:37.900 Watch.

00:19:38.420 What about those vigilante groups?

00:19:42.180 Are they out here?

00:19:43.220 There are people that will come to the border thinking they're going to find some action.

00:19:47.720 Like, we had a rancher here that had been writing fan fiction on Amazon.

00:19:53.460 And he was describing himself hunting migrants.

00:19:57.620 Wow.

00:19:58.140 With his AK-47.

00:19:59.440 And he actually even used his own name and his wife's name and his ranch's name.

00:20:04.920 And he came from somewhere else.

00:20:06.480 And then we caught him out there actually shooting at some people out there, shooting at some

00:20:12.560 migrants.

00:20:13.120 Wow. 1.00

00:20:13.540 Killed one of them. 0.99

00:20:14.420 And one of them got away.

00:20:15.600 So now he's being prosecuted for homicide in the county.

00:20:20.100 So that's an example of a guy with that mentality.

00:20:22.820 They come out here and they want to say, I'm out here in the Wild West.

00:20:25.860 And they want to have a big, tough story to tell. 0.91

00:20:28.480 I'm going to go out there and hunt me some Mexicans, you know. 1.00

00:20:32.120 And that appeals to some people. 0.56

00:20:34.240 But it's not a common thing.

00:20:35.640 It's like, I mean, you would just be driving around.

00:20:38.220 He's an extremist.

00:20:39.280 Yeah.

00:20:41.100 Now, the sheriff is lying about the contents of Kelly's book, for one thing.

00:20:45.600 It's not about hunting Mexicans.

00:20:47.200 It's about a rancher who fights drug cartels.

00:20:49.180 And that's not a crazy topic to write about when you're constantly hearing from Border Patrol

00:20:52.660 that drug cartels are running through your property.

00:20:54.540 And, of course, Kelly isn't an outsider.

00:20:56.880 He lived on that property for more than a decade.

00:20:59.220 Now, right away, that gives you a sense of how completely one-sided this whole prosecution was.

00:21:05.340 They decided to make an example of George Kelly, and they didn't bother with building a real case.

00:21:10.060 In fact, the authorities didn't do any real forensic work whatsoever.

00:21:12.860 As I mentioned, they didn't find the bullet.

00:21:15.040 They also never found any gunshot residue and never tested the backpack that the trespassers were carrying

00:21:19.320 for any gunshot residue either.

00:21:21.140 And, you know, if you watch the trial and the various interviews, you'll notice that the police decided very quickly

00:21:26.900 that they were going to charge George Kelly.

00:21:29.420 Their strategy was to interview Kelly and his wife multiple times, get them to say as much as possible,

00:21:33.280 and then use any contradiction, however minor, as there always will be some contradiction

00:21:37.840 when you're telling the same story over and over again to different people,

00:21:40.140 especially when you're under a moment of stress.

00:21:42.520 And they want to use all that as proof that Kelly is a murderer.

00:21:46.740 If you need yet more reason to never talk to the police unless it's absolutely necessary, well, this is it.

00:21:53.120 Now, even though Kelly is now free to go back to his life,

00:21:55.620 the fact remains that the government tried to send this elderly man to prison

00:21:58.780 for a quote-unquote crime that even if he had quote-unquote committed,

00:22:04.260 he would have been justified in doing so in the name of self-defense and defending his property.

00:22:10.800 And yet there is no direct evidence that he even did commit it.

00:22:14.760 There's no way to explain why this prosecution occurred unless you understand

00:22:17.940 that the state wants us to be helpless, demoralized, and vulnerable.

00:22:22.140 They are intentionally flooding our country with criminals and then punishing us

00:22:25.800 if we do anything to protect ourselves from the wave of criminality

00:22:29.280 that they have invited into our lives and onto our properties.

00:22:33.260 Now they're going after just about anybody who has the audacity to take any steps to protect themselves.

00:22:38.380 They want to terminate the right of self-defense in addition to your property rights.

00:22:42.060 That's what's going on, and it's heinous.

00:22:44.700 And somehow even more terrifying, judging by the fact that a juror somehow wanted to convict Kelly on those facts,

00:22:50.460 is that more and more people seem to be fine with it.

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00:24:06.220 Anti-Israel protesters involved in an encampment at Columbia University took over an administrative building early on Tuesday morning.

00:24:12.660 Video footage posted to X showed anti-Israel protesters carrying barricades into Hamilton Hall, an academic building on the university's campus.

00:24:20.720 And its Telegram channel, Within Our Lifetime, Palestine, posted an announcement calling for protection of the anti-Israel encampment on the campus.

00:24:29.840 The group wrote,

00:24:30.440 So, student organizers have called on everyone to come to Columbia tonight and defend the encampment after administrators' threats this morning.

00:24:37.320 Other videos posted to X showed anti-Israel protesters smashing the glass doors of Hamilton Hall.

00:24:42.220 As people can be heard chanting,

00:24:44.000 Disclose, divest, we will not stop, we will not rest. 0.98

00:24:49.500 So, they've invaded the building.

00:24:51.580 And that's the next step.

00:24:55.280 You know, this is tough for me because I feel very conflicted.

00:24:58.680 And on the one hand, these people are not protesters at this point.

00:25:06.640 And they're breaking the law.

00:25:08.700 They've set up multiple illegal encampments.

00:25:10.900 They set up an illegal encampment.

00:25:12.140 It was taken down.

00:25:12.680 They set up another one.

00:25:15.260 They're vandalizing property.

00:25:16.940 They're trespassing.

00:25:17.920 They're invading private buildings where they don't belong and they have no right to be.

00:25:21.500 These are spoiled, entitled, Ivy League, rich kid brats who deserve to be locked up in prison and have their college careers and their future careers destroyed because of it. 0.99

00:25:32.720 That's what they deserve.

00:25:34.580 These are people who have never been held accountable in their lives for anything.

00:25:39.720 And they need to be.

00:25:40.680 And I would take immense joy in seeing them held accountable because that would be justice.

00:25:47.180 And I quite enjoy justice.

00:25:49.360 I find it very pleasing on the rare occasion that it actually happens.

00:25:54.140 So, that would be great to watch.

00:25:55.300 And it's what they deserve.

00:25:56.740 And moreover, you know, they're fashioning themselves as radicals and revolutionaries.

00:26:01.580 But as I said yesterday, they aren't.

00:26:04.080 They can't be because they share the ideology and worldview of the powers that be in our culture.

00:26:09.080 They share that they are proponents of and disciples of the dominant ideology in our culture, which means that you can't be a radical.

00:26:19.020 You can't be revolutionary.

00:26:20.360 They are fully products of our cultural institutions.

00:26:24.140 They are its henchmen.

00:26:27.360 It's brainwashed sheep.

00:26:29.060 And now they're pretending to protest and stand up against the man or whatever, only because the man has given them this little space here to play pretend.

00:26:41.360 Like, the man is standing by and watching and patting their heads and saying, oh, very good.

00:26:46.940 Aren't you a bunch of cute little revolutionaries?

00:26:50.680 I mean, they literally have professors at the school are with them, are joining with them.

00:26:56.160 So, it's like, who are you even protesting at this point?

00:27:00.020 Um, so it's all fake.

00:27:01.900 And, uh, I think it'd be good for them to be introduced to reality, uh, in a, in a just, in a just way.

00:27:07.840 But on the other hand, these Ivy League institutions are currently destroying themselves.

00:27:13.480 And, uh, I love to see that too.

00:27:16.060 So, if Columbia wants to completely torch its credibility, well, then, okay.

00:27:20.180 So, go for it.

00:27:23.360 Um, so that, that's, it's like, on one hand, I'd like to see the encampments torn down, police come in, arrest them, drag them away, order and calm restored.

00:27:33.900 So, you'd like to see that.

00:27:35.180 I'd like, as someone who's a proponent of law and order, I, I, I would, that's normally what I would want to see.

00:27:41.280 But this is happening on Columbia University.

00:27:44.120 And Columbia University is allowing it to happen.

00:27:45.740 They could easily stop it.

00:27:48.260 It'd be very easy to do.

00:27:49.380 Very, very simple.

00:27:50.200 Not a hard thing.

00:27:51.260 It's not a difficult, it's not a difficult quandary they're in.

00:27:54.700 Uh, so they could easily put a stop to it.

00:27:56.620 But they're too afraid to, and so, they're allowing themselves to be destroyed.

00:28:01.740 And I guess, if that's what they want to do, that's what they want to do.

00:28:05.600 Where does that leave us?

00:28:06.440 I guess, with the fact that there's no one here to root for.

00:28:10.300 Um, and that's it.

00:28:12.900 You know, so, we'll go ahead.

00:28:14.440 Just, just let them, let them fight.

00:28:16.980 Uh, here's a headline from the Daily Mail.

00:28:19.200 This is what they put on Twitter.

00:28:20.420 Four teenagers, including high school football star, aged 14 to 16, are killed in horror crash

00:28:27.280 after a cop cruiser used pit maneuver to stop them speeding at 111 miles an hour

00:28:32.300 as horrifying photos show their mangled wreckage.

00:28:36.080 Okay.

00:28:37.260 So, this one went viral yesterday on social media.

00:28:39.100 This is what they're, this is what they're leading with, the Daily Mail is, and other media outlets.

00:28:44.820 Four teenagers, high school football star, killed because a cop used a,

00:28:50.420 a pit maneuver. 0.97

00:28:52.420 And this is all you're meant to read about when it comes to this case.

00:28:56.280 And it's all that many people did read, which is why this story, I mean, well, this, this

00:29:01.180 one sentence summation of a certain aspect of the story provoked a lot of outrage yesterday

00:29:08.060 towards the cops.

00:29:10.620 And, um, as, as it was intended to do, of course, but let's, let's do the thing we're

00:29:16.180 not supposed to do, which, which is click on the article.

00:29:18.560 And, well, they want you to click.

00:29:19.760 They do want the clicks, but they don't want you to actually read the whole thing.

00:29:23.140 Uh, so let's do that.

00:29:24.120 Let's read, let's read, not even the whole thing, but a few paragraphs.

00:29:27.220 Okay.

00:29:27.540 Four Florida teenagers have been killed after they were involved in a police chase in which

00:29:32.600 officers used a maneuver designed to get a car to stop, but caused them to spin out of

00:29:36.100 control.

00:29:37.100 The four, who were between the ages of 14 and 16, attended Newberry High School in Bradford

00:29:41.340 County.

00:29:42.320 Uh, two of the teens in the car died at the Waldo area scene, while the other two passed

00:29:46.300 away from their injuries days after the fact at UF Health Shands Hospital in Gainesville.

00:29:51.820 Gabriel Cheevers and Lawrence McClendon Jr. were both Newberry High School students.

00:29:55.860 McClendon was a sophomore defensive back for the football team.

00:29:59.000 The McClendon family have set up a GoFundMe to help cover funeral expenses.

00:30:02.180 The police pursuit began after an SUV was reported to have been stolen out of Gainesville.

00:30:06.900 Only hours after the theft, the car was detected by a license plate reader.

00:30:10.640 Uh, they tried to stop the car.

00:30:12.300 They, they sped away 111 miles an hour.

00:30:16.300 Uh, eventually the, uh, state troopers were called in.

00:30:19.420 Authorities later added two of the teens that were killed in an SUV were wearing ankle monitors

00:30:23.600 while three had active warrants.

00:30:27.200 Some of the occupants also appeared to be wearing ski masks.

00:30:31.260 Oh, okay.

00:30:31.660 So we have, you know, you got to keep reading to discover that these kids, these high school

00:30:37.540 football stars, had stolen a car, they were speeding at over 100 miles an hour, uh, they

00:30:44.340 were wearing ski masks and had ankle monitors, and they had three active arrest warrants between

00:30:51.140 them.

00:30:52.680 So the cops were not just trying to pull over an SUV because it was, uh, had a broken

00:30:57.100 taillight or something.

00:30:58.520 These were delinquents out stealing a car while already having a rap sheet despite being no older

00:31:04.300 than 16 years old.

00:31:05.600 Now, it's very sad that they died.

00:31:10.320 I mean, four kids died.

00:31:11.340 It's a very sad thing.

00:31:12.660 Of course it's sad.

00:31:13.260 Anytime a kid dies, it's a, it's a terrible tragedy.

00:31:15.960 I wish it hadn't happened.

00:31:18.080 But who is to blame here?

00:31:20.480 You know, the peanut gallery is blaming the cops.

00:31:22.300 Who, who is really to blame?

00:31:24.700 Well, a few different parties we can point to.

00:31:28.500 Unfortunately, we have to say that the teenagers themselves are first and foremost to blame.

00:31:32.540 I mean, they're the ones who engaged in this behavior.

00:31:34.380 Uh, so it, it, it starts there.

00:31:37.160 Like, it's, if you don't steal a car and go speeding a hundred, a hundred and eleven miles

00:31:41.100 an hour, this, it, this doesn't happen.

00:31:44.060 So we've got to start there.

00:31:46.300 Um, but I do believe that the amount of kind of moral guilt that you can assign to a teenager

00:31:52.800 is somewhat limited because these are kids and they've got underdeveloped brains.

00:31:57.780 And, uh, as, as every teenager does, they're impulsive, all these things.

00:32:02.500 Um, so where do you look next for blame?

00:32:04.960 Well, next you look to the parents.

00:32:06.940 And I understand that sometimes teenage boys can be rowdy.

00:32:10.240 They can be troublemakers.

00:32:11.180 They can do self-destructive things.

00:32:13.340 They can, they can drive way too fast in cars.

00:32:16.540 Uh, I was certainly guilty of that at their age.

00:32:19.260 But, you know, if your son has an ankle monitor and an arrest warrant and he's out in a ski

00:32:25.880 mask in a stolen car involved in a high speed police chase, well, then you have failed miserably

00:32:34.420 as a parent, I mean, that you, you have to go out of your way to be that bad as a parent.

00:32:40.860 Um, you, that, that's just, and so that, that's where you look like you have to parent your kids,

00:32:48.760 give them some guidance, give them some direction.

00:32:52.100 If you don't, this is the, this is the harsh reality.

00:32:55.260 If you do not teach your kid about consequences, they will learn, uh, another way.

00:33:03.600 They will learn the hard way.

00:33:04.840 And sometimes it'll be a very, very hard way, but it will be learned because consequences

00:33:10.300 are coming regardless.

00:33:11.820 You can either introduce consequences to your child in a controlled, safe, loving environment

00:33:17.680 of the home, or you can let the world do it.

00:33:21.420 And those parents let the world do it.

00:33:23.620 And you're, but if you let the world teach your kid about consequences, you will not like

00:33:28.280 the way that lesson is taught.

00:33:30.260 And because that's the thing, consequences, that, that's the one thing you can't escape

00:33:35.680 in life.

00:33:36.480 Eventually they come, they come for everyone.

00:33:38.460 I mean, this is like, this is science, right?

00:33:40.260 I mean, Newton's third law for every action, there's a reaction.

00:33:43.420 And that applies to human behavior as much as it applies to physics.

00:33:45.940 And I'm not, I'm not talking about some kind of Buddhist karma thing.

00:33:48.660 I'm not even talking about divine judgment, although that is the ultimate consequence that

00:33:52.520 we all will face.

00:33:53.180 What I mean is that if you don't teach your kid about consequences, then the consequence

00:33:59.960 of that failure is that your kid will become the sort of person who doesn't understand consequences

00:34:07.640 and then will act in the kind of way that people with that misunderstanding act.

00:34:13.980 And, and the consequence of that will almost certainly be horrifying and often fatal as

00:34:21.340 it was here.

00:34:22.360 So, uh, that's where the blame goes to the parents, unfortunately.

00:34:26.980 Um, what about the cops?

00:34:29.840 Like lots of people have said that the cops should not have done the pit maneuver.

00:34:33.120 They, the, doing a pit maneuver to stop a car going 111 miles an hour is, is almost certainly

00:34:38.760 going to kill the occupants of the car.

00:34:40.380 Um, and that's been the criticism, but what else would you have the cops do? 0.97

00:34:46.000 I mean, think about it.

00:34:46.800 You, you have a car going a hundred miles an hour.

00:34:48.740 It's stolen.

00:34:51.120 The cops can either do everything they can to stop the car or they could just let it go.

00:34:57.520 They could say, okay, well, and what is it?

00:35:00.120 So if you, so basically we're announcing that if you, you know, if you commit a crime and

00:35:04.540 you steal a car, if you do anything, as long as you drive, you know, over 65 miles an

00:35:10.000 hour away from the scene of the crime, you automatically get away because no one's going

00:35:13.180 to chase you.

00:35:13.680 No one's going to try to stop you.

00:35:15.480 I mean, that's what people, that's, that's honestly what some people want.

00:35:18.480 They say that cops should not engage in high, high speed chases at all because it's dangerous.

00:35:22.840 So what you're saying is like, once someone gets in a car, they could just go.

00:35:26.660 All right.

00:35:27.080 See you later.

00:35:29.380 Um, well, and what happens if they do that?

00:35:32.620 Well, um, I mean, leading aside the concern that you're just letting people get away with

00:35:36.160 crimes.

00:35:38.040 Well, now you have a stolen car speeding down the road, going for a joy ride at potentially

00:35:45.540 triple digit speeds, uh, with the people inside it wielding this 5,000 pound weapon, this massive

00:35:54.000 metal battering ram.

00:35:55.380 And what happens if, and when they crash into another motorist on the road, what happens

00:36:02.420 when they T-bone a minivan with a, with a family inside and kill everybody inside it?

00:36:06.180 What happens then?

00:36:07.660 Well, then the cops have just sat by and watched as an entire family was killed.

00:36:13.120 And then we blame the cops for that.

00:36:15.020 So they can't win.

00:36:17.260 Either they stopped the car and we blame them for how they stopped it, or they don't stop

00:36:23.520 the car and we blame them for whoever the teenagers kill as a result of them not stopping it.

00:36:28.100 So it's a, it's a lose, lose as always for the cops.

00:36:30.040 There's no way there's just, there's no matter what they do, um, they probably lose, which

00:36:37.080 is why they did the right thing.

00:36:38.140 I mean, it's sad that the kids died.

00:36:39.460 It is, but if you're stealing a car and going a hundred miles an hour, um, you know, you're

00:36:47.740 putting lives at risk and it needs to be your own life that's at risk, not anybody else's.

00:36:53.520 Um, and if anyone is going to die as a result of that decision, it should be you and not,

00:37:01.180 and not anyone else on the road.

00:37:04.400 Um, so you need to be stopped, whatever the cost is to you so that there is not a cost

00:37:11.280 to some innocent third party that is not involved in this.

00:37:16.020 I think that's the way you have to break it down.

00:37:17.980 Um, all right, you know, if it were somehow possible to harvest and harness a moment of

00:37:24.740 cringe, um, and then convert the cringe energy into a weapon of some kind of a bomb, let's

00:37:30.880 say a cringe bomb that I think this moment right here could be made into a bomb a hundred

00:37:37.440 times more powerful than the one we dropped on Hiroshima.

00:37:40.180 Uh, this is, this is beyond like nuclear grade cringe.

00:37:44.120 It really is.

00:37:45.720 Yeah, I, it took me three tries.

00:37:48.120 This is a 20 second clip.

00:37:49.120 It took me three tries to watch it because the first two times I had to turn it off.

00:37:54.680 I had to turn it off.

00:37:55.520 I got 15 seconds and I couldn't make it first time was 10 seconds.

00:37:57.900 Then I made it 15 seconds.

00:37:59.700 Then I finally made it to the end.

00:38:00.980 It's very, very difficult.

00:38:01.980 I'm telling you, um, and this is what happens when you take two of the cringiest humans

00:38:07.800 on earth, Kamala Harris and Drew Barrymore, and you put them together on camera, on a couch.

00:38:18.940 Uh, the, the cringe that will result will be, well, it'll be exactly like this.

00:38:23.800 Watch.

00:38:23.960 I've been thinking that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now, but

00:38:30.180 in our country, we need you to be Mamala of the country. 1.00

00:38:47.420 Uh, that's bad that I told you, I warned you.

00:38:51.800 We need you to be Mamala of the country. 1.00

00:38:54.640 My God.

00:38:56.060 Now I do have to say Kamala's reaction there.

00:39:00.300 And if you let it go a little bit, a few more seconds longer, you'll see like her reaction

00:39:04.320 was, uh, I don't know what she said after this, but her reaction in the moment, uh, it

00:39:11.560 was pretty good.

00:39:13.040 It's good.

00:39:13.340 She reacted like a relatively normal person to such a bizarre comment because Drew Barrymore

00:39:18.460 says, we need you to give us a hug as a, be Mamala of the country. 1.00

00:39:22.080 And Kamala says, yeah, okay.

00:39:23.560 I mean, I mean, okay.

00:39:26.040 Uh, I mean, yeah.

00:39:27.760 All right.

00:39:28.300 It's like, what else do you say to that?

00:39:29.640 I don't know what you say.

00:39:30.440 Um, well, I, you know, here's what I wish.

00:39:32.360 Here's what I wish.

00:39:33.480 I see these clips of the Drew Barrymore show.

00:39:36.220 I wish one of her guests would just say to her, Hey, can you like back off? 0.81

00:39:41.100 First of all, what, give me some personal space.

00:39:43.140 Okay.

00:39:43.560 There are two couches here.

00:39:45.040 Why are you not sitting on that couch?

00:39:46.580 Isn't that way this is supposed to, I've been on, I've been on talk shows before.

00:39:48.660 What are you sitting right next to me on the same couch?

00:39:52.040 Like, this is like, if I, if, if, if we're going to, uh, eat a lunch or something, a professional

00:39:57.140 environment, it's like a work lunch and we're sitting in a booth and you come over to sit

00:40:02.040 on the same side as me on the same booth.

00:40:04.480 You don't do that.

00:40:05.440 I don't know you that well.

00:40:06.580 What are you doing?

00:40:08.420 So stop making this so awkward.

00:40:09.980 Like there are people watching.

00:40:11.840 What do you, why are you trying to make me uncomfortable?

00:40:14.700 I came to your show.

00:40:16.720 Now I wish somebody would, would say that. 0.93

00:40:18.640 So that'd be a nice thing to say, but the most ridiculous thing here, aside from how

00:40:23.740 cringy it is in general to ask a politician, to give the country a big hug and be our mom.

00:40:29.180 Um, aside from that, of all the people to say that to Kamala Harris is the last one.

00:40:39.500 She is the least qualified for the role of national mom. 0.69

00:40:44.860 Not that I think it's a role that anyone should necessarily be filling, but I mean, it honestly,

00:40:49.560 it would make, I know this sounds, this sounds like an exaggeration, but it would make more

00:40:52.960 sense to ask Hillary Clinton to be America's mom. 0.99

00:40:56.980 That would make more sense.

00:40:59.060 At least Hillary Clinton, she has a kid. 1.00

00:41:02.020 Uh, she, you know, uh, Harris doesn't even have children.

00:41:05.180 Hillary Clinton has just plus Hillary could be, you know, she could be kind of, uh, America's 1.00

00:41:10.760 evil step-mom. 1.00

00:41:12.060 So she does give off a certain maternal energy.

00:41:14.780 Uh, it's a very evil maternal energy, but she gives off the maternal energy of a mom who 1.00

00:41:18.900 like locks you up in the tower and you're forced to befriend talking rodents.

00:41:22.960 Cause nobody will talk to you.

00:41:24.280 Like she gives off that very Cinderella vibe thing.

00:41:26.860 And you may, maybe you can make an argument that, that, uh, there's times when America

00:41:29.940 could use an evil step-mom. 1.00

00:41:31.300 I don't know.

00:41:31.920 But Harris doesn't even have that.

00:41:34.600 Like she gives off no mom vibes at all.

00:41:37.980 Least of all the warm, loving maternal vibes of a mom who gives us all a hug.

00:41:43.260 Like of all the emotions and thoughts to experience when you, when you see Kamala Harris and listen

00:41:48.120 to her talk, who, who would think to themselves, I, I want her to give me a hug.

00:41:52.080 What?

00:41:54.900 Drew Barrymore, you might as well go to like Cole's department store and deliver that tearful

00:42:02.080 plea to a mannequin in the women's section.

00:42:04.600 You might as well be talking to a mannequin.

00:42:06.640 Can you be our, can you be our mom-a-kin?

00:42:09.920 Can you be the mom-a-kin of the country and give us all a hug? 1.00

00:42:12.480 Like you, you lunatic. 1.00

00:42:15.240 What is wrong with you? 1.00

00:42:16.480 How does this person have a talk show?

00:42:21.080 Kamala Harris is totally empty. 0.96

00:42:22.560 She's a completely hollow person. 0.64

00:42:24.440 Nothing to say, nothing to offer, no warmth, no compassion, no wisdom, nothing.

00:42:30.640 She is so lifeless that she makes Joe Biden seem vibrant by comparison.

00:42:39.020 Which, by the way, is like the only reason that she's still on the ticket.

00:42:43.220 And Joe Biden, by the way, he would love to give the country a hug.

00:42:45.720 He would love it way too much.

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00:44:03.240 Never in a million years would I expect to see Walsh be more defensive of a dog's life than

00:44:07.640 Knowles.

00:44:08.820 That is a twist.

00:44:09.860 That's a twist.

00:44:10.700 I know Knowles went for full-on defending the killing of poor cricket.

00:44:16.780 And it is a twist because you would expect, like, if someone told you ahead of time that

00:44:21.880 a politician would get in a lot of trouble for killing a dog and one Daily Wire host

00:44:25.380 would be alone in defending the decision, everybody would assume you'd put all your money in your

00:44:31.440 bank account on betting that it's me to be the one to do that.

00:44:35.640 So it is a little bit like, you know, I want to keep you on your toes.

00:44:38.760 I don't want to always be predictable.

00:44:40.800 I'm predictable most of the time, but I want to, every once in a while, I got to veer

00:44:45.560 off in a direction you weren't expecting.

00:44:48.520 Now look, and there's actually, there's a fair amount of comments actually defending

00:44:54.360 Knowles on this.

00:44:57.900 I'll just read one other. 0.81

00:45:00.220 It says, everyone getting mad about the farm dog is ridiculous, mostly because many states 0.85

00:45:03.760 will put down your dog if they kill livestock. 0.56

00:45:05.540 If she didn't cut her family that check, they'd have full rights to have cricket put 1.00

00:45:10.240 down anyways.

00:45:11.500 Brain dead arguments as always.

00:45:13.100 Yeah.

00:45:13.320 So look, first of all, I don't care that much at all.

00:45:19.020 Like, I don't, and I think I made that clear when we talked about the Daily Cancellation

00:45:23.820 yesterday, that of all the things to worry about right now, of all the things to be upset

00:45:30.180 about, being upset about a dead dog 20 years ago on some ranch in South Dakota, of all the

00:45:37.800 things to be actively angry about at this moment in time, it is insane that that makes

00:45:44.200 anybody's top 10 list, much less should it be number one on their list for multiple days,

00:45:50.560 as it was for plenty of people, including prominent conservatives who spent multiple

00:45:55.140 days talking about it.

00:45:56.640 I'm on Twitter last night, and there are still people making their arguments.

00:46:01.980 You know, I don't think that she should have killed the dog for this reason.

00:46:04.840 Like, we get it.

00:46:05.660 We've heard it.

00:46:06.300 We've heard it by now.

00:46:07.660 Everyone's posting pictures of their own dog.

00:46:09.640 That's my favorite.

00:46:10.260 People posting pictures of their own dog saying, I would never kill my dog.

00:46:15.900 Like, okay, wait, what do you want us to get?

00:46:17.200 What do you want a cookie?

00:46:17.820 You want us to give you credit for that?

00:46:20.940 I wouldn't kill my, like, that's creepy, first of all.

00:46:25.740 That's just an odd thing to do.

00:46:28.120 Your dog's probably pretty freaked out if he knew that you were doing that.

00:46:33.600 If your dog could ask, like, why are you taking a picture of me?

00:46:36.260 Oh, because I'm going to post it online just to show everyone that I haven't killed you. 0.62

00:46:40.420 What? 0.98

00:46:41.100 So it's way over the top and ridiculous. 0.61

00:46:44.600 And it doesn't, if I were to make a list of the things that I care about right now and the issues that I think should be top, you know, headline news and should get everyone's attention.

00:46:55.340 And I were to make a list and a ranking, Christy Noem's dead dog 20 years ago would not, the list, you would get to number one million on the list and we wouldn't even be close to Cricket making the list yet.

00:47:09.320 With all due respect to Cricket, I'm sure Cricket wasn't a great dog.

00:47:12.420 Well, apparently she wasn't a very good dog, but even so, with all due respect to the fallen, I, it would not make the list.

00:47:20.300 So, you know, let's not, let's not get too bad out of shape.

00:47:24.540 It's not like I'm crying tears about it.

00:47:26.060 However, if someone asks me and like presents it as just an ethical question, do you think, like, what are the circumstances where it's okay to put down a dog?

00:47:36.780 I think there are plenty of circumstances where it's okay.

00:47:38.720 Uh, and then you tell me the specifics of this case and you, and, and you asked me to make a judgment call.

00:47:45.140 I would say, yeah, probably not that, uh, probably not, probably not because of how young the dog was.

00:47:50.160 And, uh, it, it sounds like the dog needed more training and 14 months.

00:47:55.400 Now I'm not a dog expert.

00:47:56.360 I'm not a dog trainer.

00:47:57.780 Uh, I don't hunt with dogs.

00:47:59.920 So, uh, or hunt at all, frankly, but it seems to me that 14 months is a little young for that.

00:48:07.900 And, uh, and it just more time needed to be put into training.

00:48:12.140 And yeah, I don't, uh, I don't think it's necessarily ethically right to, uh, to kill an animal rather than put the proper energy into training the animal.

00:48:22.680 That's, that's what I, that's how I would break this down.

00:48:26.300 Um, and then after saying that, I will just move on with my life and probably never think about it again.

00:48:31.360 Because as I said, there are many other things for us to be worried about right now.

00:48:36.020 Um, all right.

00:48:38.100 Speaking the truth says, I think the fact that virginity is rising has more to do with the toxic feminist movement than porn. 1.00

00:48:45.900 I, that certainly is a major factor.

00:48:48.240 I think that, I think that there are, first of all, it's hard to break it down.

00:48:53.960 It's, it's hard to separate all these things all the time.

00:48:56.040 Um, and as we've been talking about the rise in male virginity, declining birth rates, as we discussed to start the show yesterday, uh, there are, there are many factors that go into it.

00:49:07.380 One of them that I mentioned was porn specifically, specifically on, you know, because, uh, rising male virginity is, is itself one of the factors leading into the declining birth rates.

00:49:19.540 It itself is not the only factor.

00:49:21.480 And then what is the main factor leading into that factor?

00:49:25.360 Well, I would say that porn is the main one, but certainly not the only one.

00:49:30.100 Now you, you could point out as many people did in comments that, okay, yeah, porn is a major factor, maybe even be the main factor, but why is it that porn is so prevalent?

00:49:40.360 Why is it that men are, uh, turning to porn as much as they are?

00:49:44.960 Okay, well then, then you can continue the conversation and we could talk about this for hours and not reach the end of it.

00:49:50.280 Um, and feminism certainly has not helped any of this and has been, not only hasn't helped, but has been a, uh, just a toxic, uh, as you say, toxic is the right word, a poisonous, degrading influence on the culture in just about every respect to my mind. 0.84

00:50:11.360 Um, but the fact is that you've got, you know, I looked up a study, we were talking about this yesterday, uh, and it, it kind of changes depending on the study you're looking at.

00:50:26.960 The one study I saw, which I think is a pretty conservative estimate says that the first, first exposure to pornography for children is 12 years old.

00:50:35.140 Now I've read eight years old, I've read nine years old, I've read 10, so it kind of depends, but let's just go with that really conservative, the most conservative estimate, which is let's say 12, still, uh, 12 years old.

00:50:48.160 And you've got boys at the age of 12 and, and girls too, but more often boys that are exposed to hardcore pornography at the age of 12, which, which is something that just, it almost never happened prior to the internet age.

00:51:07.660 It almost never happened. A 12 year old being exposed to this kind of content would almost never happen. And I know that people will say, Oh, well, what about, uh, what about your, you know, the kid finds his dad's porn magazines.

00:51:25.300 People bring this up all the time. Like, first of all, if your dad was leaving porn magazines around the house, then your dad was, was a creep. Like that's, you know, uh, I didn't, my dad wasn't looking at porn magazines. We didn't have porn magazines in the house at all. 0.96

00:51:37.180 I don't think that that was all that common. If it seems common to you, then that says something about the way that you were raised and you should be asking some serious questions about the way that you were raised.

00:51:46.000 But, um, but even with that, like that would be the only real circumstance where a child will be exposed to anything like this. And that was not nearly as common.

00:51:56.380 And most of the time, the images that they, if they were exposed to anything, the images would not be, would not be anything like what kids are exposed to now.

00:52:06.920 And also just the, the ubiquity of it. It's, it's so pervasive. It's everywhere.

00:52:11.620 The other thing too, also with, with pornography is that, yes, you've got millions of people that are seeking it out every single day and spending hours every single day, um, consuming hardcore pornography.

00:52:24.800 Which again, prior to the internet age, even if some, even if an adult was subscribed to a magazine, like they were not, they probably were not spending hours every day with pornography.

00:52:40.060 It just wasn't enough of it. Um, but the other thing too, is that, again, prior to the internet age, you, you also would, there was almost no scenario where you would be accidentally exposed to pornographic images.

00:52:59.200 It, it, it, it, it, it's hard to imagine a scenario where that would happen, that where you would accidentally, you would have to seek it out, um, or put yourself in a position, in a situation where you might

00:53:09.780 encounter it. But these days, like anyone on social media, you can go on Twitter and anyone could go to Twitter. Any kid can go on Twitter and just scroll down a newsfeed and see, and see explicit pornography just pop up.

00:53:25.940 Um, that's how pervasive it is. And we could talk about other things too, but there is no conversation about declining birth rates, male virginity, male loneliness, uh, the decline in marriage.

00:53:39.780 All that, there is no conversation about, about that sort of thing that can skip over this factor of, uh, of pornography.

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00:54:37.460 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:54:45.180 So here's another one of those headlines that starts out crazy and then gets even more insane somehow as it goes on.

00:54:50.480 Here it is from the New York Post.

00:54:51.920 Daily showers are purely performative and have no real health benefits.

00:54:56.980 Experts insist.

00:54:57.860 So you know you're in for a treat whenever the experts show up.

00:55:02.240 If a headline ends with the phrase, experts insist or experts say, you can be sure that whatever preceded it is completely bonkers.

00:55:10.600 And this time the experts are on the scene to discourage us from being hygienic.

00:55:15.300 And why?

00:55:15.920 I mean, what is their argument against bathing yourself?

00:55:18.840 And in what way is a shower performative?

00:55:20.740 Like, I've never thought of myself as performing while taking a shower.

00:55:26.300 But I guess that's what you'd expect me to say as one of those phony, pandering grifters who takes showers.

00:55:33.000 Already we can tell that there's, you know, the experts might be engaged in a little bit of post hoc rationalization here.

00:55:38.760 We could probably assume that these experts were made fun of in school for having bad B.O.

00:55:42.880 And they eventually came up with this justification.

00:55:45.760 I don't stink.

00:55:46.820 I'm just authentic. 0.99

00:55:48.620 Showers are performative anyway, you frauds. 0.98

00:55:51.100 You frauds with your showers. 0.97

00:55:53.560 But perhaps I'm being unfair.

00:55:54.880 Maybe they have a reasonable case to make.

00:55:56.940 Let's be open-minded.

00:55:58.920 And let's keep reading.

00:56:00.360 Experts say the daily shower has no proven health benefit, dismissing the dousing as a socially accepted practice geared towards staving off accusations of funkiness.

00:56:08.480 As A-listers from Jake Gyllenhaal to Mila Kunis admit that they've been saying no to the nozzle.

00:56:14.820 Quote,

00:56:15.020 Why are we washing?

00:56:16.160 Mostly because we're afraid somebody else will tell us that we're smelling.

00:56:19.420 Environmentalist Danakta McCarthy tells the BBC,

00:56:22.680 The prostitute state author only hoses off once per month to help the environment. 1.00

00:56:27.100 A lifestyle choice inspired by spending two weeks in the Amazon with the indigenous Yanomami tribe, he said.

00:56:33.480 So as you get that, this guy has picked up his personal grooming habits from a primitive jungle tribe in the Amazon.

00:56:41.420 That's like telling us that your perspective on dental hygiene was transformed by spending a week in London.

00:56:47.340 Like if anything, it should have the effect of making you more inspired to be hygienic.

00:56:51.320 I myself have had a brief encounter with the traditional tribal culture, and I will tell you that, and they were very welcoming and it was quite wonderful in many ways.

00:56:59.880 And I, but I never appreciated a shower so much as the one that I took when I got home from that experience.

00:57:06.360 And, by the way, primitive tribes, they don't bathe very often, but it's not because of some deep ancestral knowledge of hygiene.

00:57:14.100 It's because, first of all, they don't have running water.

00:57:16.780 And second, they don't really know much about germs and bacteria.

00:57:20.060 So the lack of showers comes purely from a place of ignorance and deprivation, not something we really want to emulate in the first world, I would think.

00:57:26.780 But anyway, continuing, it says, quote, every other morning, McCarthy told a reporter he opts instead for a wash at the sink, using a cloth to give his body a good scrub.

00:57:36.340 And while abstaining from daily showers might seem like antisocial behavior, medical experts are inclined to lean toward agreeing with earthy types like McCarthy,

00:57:43.960 saying that the modern obsession with cleanliness can actually be hazardous to one's health.

00:57:48.140 Manhattan dermatologist Dr. Julie Rusak previously told the Post that prolonged daily showers could strip away the skin's microbiome,

00:57:55.160 which plays a role in protecting the skin and is also extremely important in overall health.

00:57:59.520 Chemist David Whitlock was so adamant about preserving this dermal barrier that the bathing abstainer didn't shower for 12 years. 0.79

00:58:08.540 Disgusting. 0.60

00:58:09.700 Instead, opting to spray himself with good bacteria. 0.99

00:58:12.780 When asked about addressing critics, he told Vice,

00:58:15.540 tell anyone who mocks you that they're betraying profound ignorance of the skin microbiome and then walk away. 1.00

00:58:21.820 Well, yes, we might be ignorant of the skin microbiome, but the bigger problem, David, is that you smell like ass. 1.00

00:58:29.400 That's really the issue here. 0.99

00:58:32.060 But good, yes, please walk away.

00:58:33.780 Please, that part, please do.

00:58:36.140 Now, so far I haven't read anything that persuades me to stop showering,

00:58:38.880 but, you know, maybe we haven't read far enough, so let's just go through a bit more here.

00:58:43.520 In 2021, researchers at Harvard found that 66% of Americans shower every day,

00:58:47.420 while a 2005 report claims that it's common for Brits to shower once or twice per day.

00:58:52.920 So the Brits are showering more often?

00:58:54.280 I don't believe it.

00:58:55.140 I don't know.

00:58:56.200 They're not brushing their teeth more often.

00:58:58.040 We know that.

00:58:58.960 We wash our bodies so much, much more than we did in the past.

00:59:02.700 Dale Southerton, professor of sociology of consumption at the University of Bristol,

00:59:06.060 who co-authored the report, told the Beeb,

00:59:08.180 the change has mostly come about over the past 100 years and it was not planned.

00:59:12.060 In fact, it seems to have happened almost accidentally.

00:59:13.700 Experts have chalked up this phenomenon to the increasing prevalence of showers,

00:59:18.140 which became common in U.S. homes circa the 1920s and in their across-the-pond counterparts in the 1950s.

00:59:24.600 We don't shower because of health.

00:59:25.720 We shower because it's a normal thing to do.

00:59:27.360 Throw in the societal stigma of not showering,

00:59:29.660 and it's no secret people are irrigating their epidermis on the reg.

00:59:35.440 What?

00:59:36.240 Sally Bloomfield, honorary professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine,

00:59:39.980 claimed that people shower every day because it's, quote, socially acceptable.

00:59:44.020 Okay.

00:59:45.340 A few things here.

00:59:48.220 First of all, if I was dictator of the country,

00:59:50.640 then any news publication that used a phrase like on the reg in its journalism would be forcibly disbanded

00:59:57.360 and all of its employees would be imprisoned for life.

01:00:00.500 Second, speaking of people who should be in prison for life,

01:00:03.140 I am horrified to learn that, according to one study, 34% of you are not showering every day. 1.00

01:00:09.320 You dirty, smelly freaks. 0.99

01:00:12.060 Third, as I read this article, I was expecting that it would all come around to the experts claiming 1.00

01:00:16.440 that actually, if you don't shower for five months, eventually your body, like, adjusts

01:00:20.520 and you won't smell like garbage anymore.

01:00:22.320 I thought that they would get around to making some kind of dubious claim like that, but no. 0.94

01:00:26.860 Instead, they seem to be admitting that, yes, you will stink,

01:00:30.020 and that's supposed to be okay, apparently. 0.96

01:00:32.220 Society should just, like, get back to stinking.

01:00:35.420 Back to the good old days of everyone smelling like wet dogs all the time.

01:00:39.380 And their whole argument is that, well, the only reason people shower every day

01:00:42.700 is because of the social stigma of giving off the stench of an overheated port-a-john.

01:00:47.560 That's the only reason, they claim.

01:00:50.140 Well, no, that's not the only reason.

01:00:52.000 There are other reasons.

01:00:52.920 There are plenty of health benefits to washing the dirt and grime off your body,

01:00:56.420 but yes, it's true that beyond all that, and maybe before all that,

01:00:59.100 there is the fact that we want to fit into society.

01:01:02.240 We want to be normal people.

01:01:03.280 We want to be pleasant for others to be around and therefore not stink.

01:01:06.380 That's true, and that's good.

01:01:07.880 It's good to want to be normal in that way.

01:01:09.780 It's good to want to be a pleasant, welcome sort of presence in the room 0.92

01:01:13.300 rather than a foul, reeking, disgusting one.

01:01:15.300 See, these experts, they treat the desire for normalcy and social cohesion

01:01:20.420 as some kind of great evil.

01:01:22.760 They point at us in an accusatory way and they say,

01:01:25.420 you people, you only take showers so that other people don't vomit 0.97

01:01:29.260 from your stench whenever you walk into the room.

01:01:32.940 Well, yes.

01:01:34.380 I mean, that's a big part of it.

01:01:36.420 We don't want to be the objects of revulsion to other human beings.

01:01:40.820 It's good for us to not want that.

01:01:43.360 It's good for us to take steps to avoid being that.

01:01:46.500 That's what it means to be a functional member of human society.

01:01:50.880 Now, look, there are plenty of criticisms you could make of modern culture,

01:01:54.360 plenty of downsides you could list,

01:01:56.480 but the expert class is in a constant state of warfare

01:01:59.300 against the aspects of modern society that are by far and away the best.

01:02:03.280 The things that are nearly all upside and no downside,

01:02:06.160 air conditioning, indoor plumbing, beef products, modern hygiene.

01:02:10.960 That's all the best stuff.

01:02:13.140 That's the best.

01:02:13.940 That stuff, it's inarguably, it makes your life better and more enjoyable

01:02:17.760 and increases your happiness and well-being.

01:02:20.360 And these are precisely the things that they want to take from us.

01:02:24.100 Until we're eating the bugs and living in the pod,

01:02:27.240 greasy and unwashed,

01:02:28.660 so that the pod smells like a hippie commune,

01:02:31.780 this is the life they want for us.

01:02:33.760 And it's why the anti-showering experts are today canceled.

01:02:39.260 That'll do it for the show today.

01:02:40.400 Thanks for watching.

01:02:40.920 Thanks for listening.

01:02:41.540 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:02:42.680 Have a great day.

01:02:43.620 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - April 30, 2024

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