The Matt Walsh Show - November 05, 2018


Ep. 136 - At The Polls, Remember Kavanaugh


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31 minutes

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00:00:00.080 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, with the election tomorrow, there is one thing that everybody should remember when they go to the polls.
00:00:06.340 We'll talk about that.
00:00:07.280 Also, conservatives were offended this weekend by a joke on SNL, and so we'll discuss how partisanship is destroying comedy.
00:00:15.420 And finally, a teacher in California was arrested for a physically assaulting student.
00:00:20.160 I want to defend the teacher and explain why he should not be fired.
00:00:24.140 All of that coming up on the Matt Walsh Show.
00:00:26.060 Election Day is coming up.
00:00:32.000 It's coming up tomorrow, in fact, in case you didn't know.
00:00:35.140 And I do have just one thing I would like to remind you of as you head into the polls.
00:00:42.260 One relevant piece of history.
00:00:44.620 Ancient history.
00:00:45.800 Okay?
00:00:46.260 Admittedly, this was a long, long time ago.
00:00:48.260 It's why I feel like I have to remind you of it.
00:00:50.080 But this goes all the way back.
00:00:52.180 Way, way, way, way back to the beginning of October.
00:00:55.260 Try to bring your mind back to the beginning of October and recall the orchestrated smear campaign of Justice Kavanaugh.
00:01:05.520 Now, you may have noticed, as we head into the election, what Democrats have been saying about Kavanaugh, especially ever since his confirmation.
00:01:17.260 Notice the things that they've been saying about him.
00:01:21.400 That is, specifically, it should be easy to remember what they've been saying because they've said nothing.
00:01:26.980 They aren't talking about him anymore.
00:01:29.060 They don't bring him up.
00:01:30.760 Have you noticed that?
00:01:32.000 And that's weird, isn't it?
00:01:33.960 Because according to them, he's a rapist.
00:01:38.360 According to them, Republicans put a rapist on the bench.
00:01:45.880 So isn't it weird that they haven't been citing that fact repeatedly, constantly, on the campaign trail?
00:01:56.160 They talked about it while the confirmation process was going on.
00:02:00.040 But as soon as he's confirmed, they stopped talking about it.
00:02:03.940 You'd think it would be almost the opposite.
00:02:05.580 Like, Republicans have now actually put this guy on the bench.
00:02:08.880 He's a rapist, according to them.
00:02:10.380 Yet they're not talking about that.
00:02:11.680 Well, I think we know why.
00:02:16.200 And I think we know why they stopped talking about it.
00:02:18.480 And we can actually, there was a report, a full report, released by the Senate Judiciary Committee after they conducted their, finished up their investigation on the whole Kavanaugh debacle.
00:02:35.200 And they just released this report over the weekend.
00:02:38.300 It's 400 pages long.
00:02:39.780 But here's what it says in part.
00:02:41.000 Let me just, this is how they kind of summarize it.
00:02:44.100 It says, after an extensive investigation that included the thorough review of all potentially credible evidence submitted and interviews of more than 40 individuals with information relating to the allegations, including classmates and friends of all those involved, committee investigators found no witnesses who could provide any verifiable evidence to support any of the allegations brought against Justice Kavanaugh.
00:03:08.400 In other words, following the separate and extensive investigations by both the committee and the FBI, there was no evidence to substantiate any of the claims of sexual assault made against Justice Kavanaugh.
00:03:21.220 What's more, what's more, the committee is also calling for charges against Julie Swetnick.
00:03:29.360 She's the woman who alleged all those gang rapes, if you recall.
00:03:32.140 There is, shockingly, there is, shockingly, reason to believe that she's a perjuring liar and a fraud, along with her pseudo-lawyer Avenatti.
00:03:45.140 So, you know, it's interesting, we haven't heard anything from Swetnick either, after the, since the confirmation.
00:03:53.840 According to her, Judge, Justice Kavanaugh is a serial gang rapist.
00:04:00.740 But she suddenly has gone silent, haven't heard anything from her.
00:04:05.960 Have you noticed that?
00:04:08.560 Well, I think we know why.
00:04:11.040 And the committee also is calling for charges against another woman who now admits to making up allegations against Kavanaugh.
00:04:17.740 And the committee is also investigating Monica McClain, who's the woman, the former FBI agent, who allegedly tried to encourage a witness to change her story so that it would support Christine Ford's story.
00:04:32.020 On top of all that, the report details an interview that the committee conducted with another man who says that he had an encounter at the time in question, in the area in question, in a bedroom, with a girl who had a one-piece bathing suit on, under her clothes.
00:04:51.800 And the encounter was, you know, and a girl who looked a lot like Christine Ford looked at that time, according to the pictures that he's seen.
00:04:59.660 And that encounter was ended when another guy jumped on top of them.
00:05:04.300 So there was another guy in the room, and it ended when someone jumped on top.
00:05:07.620 He says the encounter was consensual, though.
00:05:09.960 But there's every reason to suspect that this may, in fact, be the encounter that Ford was talking about, which would mean that she was wrong not only about the person who she had this encounter with, but she was wrong about whether or not it was consensual,
00:05:26.660 which would mean that this was, of course, on her part, would have had to have been more than just a lapsed memory situation.
00:05:32.700 This, you know, this would be, in that case, just a lie and a fraud on her part.
00:05:38.700 And it actually would kind of make sense, you know, because although her story was strangely vague,
00:05:44.800 it was vague especially about details that you wouldn't think she would be vague about, about things that you'd think she would remember.
00:05:53.400 So it was vague in those parts.
00:05:55.280 But then there were those few things that she was very detailed about and very descriptive about.
00:06:03.340 And she was able, when talking about the story, to conjure up some emotion about it.
00:06:10.460 So if she took something that actually happened and just kind of transplanted Kavanaugh into it and then changed some of the details to make it non-consensual when it was consensual,
00:06:21.800 then that would kind of explain how she was able to be detailed about certain things but not others and all that.
00:06:28.620 So it's clear why the Democrats have stopped talking about this.
00:06:35.760 The truth is, the truth is coming out.
00:06:38.840 It has come out.
00:06:40.200 And it is completely, utterly damning to everyone involved in the attack on Kavanaugh.
00:06:45.240 The man is being completely vindicated in remarkable ways, really.
00:06:49.480 Because it's actually pretty impressive when you think about it, that there could be so much evidence proving his innocence in relation to a made-up crime from 35 years ago.
00:07:00.600 If an innocent man is accused of doing something three decades ago, the most he could usually hope to find to support his side, to prove his innocence, is a lack of evidence on the other side.
00:07:12.980 So if you're accused of doing something 30 years ago, in most cases, the most you could hope for is that the other side just has no evidence.
00:07:22.920 Because from 35 years ago, you're not going to be able to present your own evidence proving that you were innocent.
00:07:29.400 But remarkably, Kavanaugh has that.
00:07:35.420 You know, he has the lack of evidence against him.
00:07:39.400 But he also has a ton of evidence actively vindicating him.
00:07:44.380 Evidence like another man coming forward and saying, no, it was me.
00:07:49.260 Evidence like the denials of all the alleged witnesses.
00:07:53.280 Evidence like recanted statements from accusers.
00:07:55.940 Evidence like his calendar showing all the things that he did during the summer in question.
00:08:02.720 So it's just overwhelming.
00:08:03.780 But Democrats knew that this would happen.
00:08:07.260 Okay, the gambit for them was very simple.
00:08:10.480 For them, it was throw everything at Kavanaugh, no matter how absurd and unsubstantiated, destroy him, keep him off the court.
00:08:19.180 And then weeks later, when the truth comes out, and they knew that it would come out, but then they could just rely on the media to ignore it and bury it.
00:08:27.040 All they cared about was, let's just keep him off the court now, destroy him.
00:08:30.900 And then when the truth comes out three, four weeks from now, it's not going to matter anymore.
00:08:35.920 The damage will be done.
00:08:37.320 Media won't report it.
00:08:38.260 Nobody will hear about it.
00:08:39.840 And they were right about that.
00:08:41.080 The media, of course, is ignoring this.
00:08:43.360 But sadly for the Democrats, the gambit didn't work out because Kavanaugh is on the court.
00:08:47.660 So the only question now is whether the voters will make Democrats pay for this smear campaign.
00:08:55.120 And I really hope they do.
00:08:57.140 You know, I think, of course, I'm biased, but I think there are many reasons not to vote for Democrats.
00:09:02.500 But even if you're someone who's on the fence politically or ideologically, this should definitely be enough to push you, if not towards voting for Republicans, at least staying home and not voting for Democrats, when you see what they did.
00:09:22.620 I mean, this is, as I said throughout the entire thing, this is one of the most brazen smear campaigns and some of the most brazen dishonesty that we've ever seen from politicians.
00:09:39.780 Especially when you think about it, it's not just one politician.
00:09:43.240 It was many of them.
00:09:44.780 It was the Democrat Party together deciding to engage in this campaign of destruction and lies and slander.
00:09:55.200 They just, they can, they have to be punished for that.
00:09:58.320 For the sake of common decency, for the sake of preserving, to whatever extent we still can, the integrity of our political process.
00:10:07.260 We just, they have to be punished for that.
00:10:09.780 So, please keep that in mind as you head to the polls.
00:10:17.000 Okay, moving on.
00:10:18.460 I want to touch briefly on something.
00:10:21.480 Pete Davidson is a comedian on SNL.
00:10:25.440 Maybe you heard about this over the weekend.
00:10:26.860 He made a bad and stupid joke, very bad, very stupid, about a GOP congressional candidate named Dan Crenshaw.
00:10:33.740 And Crenshaw is a veteran who lost an eye while fighting overseas.
00:10:40.660 So, he wears an eye patch now.
00:10:42.160 And Davidson joked that Crenshaw looks like, he said, he looks like the hitman in a porno.
00:10:49.180 Which, in my innocence and naivete, I didn't even realize that was a category of person that you would find in a porno.
00:11:00.740 A hitman.
00:11:01.300 But leave that aside, nevertheless, it was, as I said, a stupid and bad joke and offensive, as he was obviously mocking someone who's suffering a disability from war.
00:11:16.680 And to mock someone with a disability at all is bad.
00:11:21.300 To mock their disability when they got it fighting for the country just makes it all the worse.
00:11:26.640 But it was a joke.
00:11:29.740 We can say.
00:11:30.640 It was a joke from a comedian.
00:11:32.660 Bad, stupid, offensive, but a joke.
00:11:35.180 Yes.
00:11:35.580 And conservatives are usually the first ones to say that, listen, you know, you've got to give comedians leeway here.
00:11:44.740 We can't get overly sensitive about jokes that comedians tell, even when they're bad, stupid, and offensive.
00:11:50.460 Yet, many conservatives reacted to this joke with immense outrage.
00:11:54.860 And almost immediately, there was a campaign being organized to put pressure on NBC's advertisers, and there were people calling for boycotts, and people calling for Davidson to be fired, and on and on and on.
00:12:08.740 Now, Mr. Crenshaw himself, to his credit, did not engage in this.
00:12:13.620 And I think this is really impressive.
00:12:17.000 You know, he took it in stride, basically.
00:12:19.160 And, in fact, he decried the culture of outrage where we demand apologies, and he said he's not going to do that.
00:12:25.580 He thinks it's silly to demand apologies, and that's great.
00:12:28.860 He did say that it was an unfunny joke.
00:12:31.820 It was a bad joke, and it's not okay to make fun of wounded warriors.
00:12:35.240 But he didn't call for a boycott.
00:12:37.440 He didn't demand an apology, as I said, to his credit.
00:12:41.320 But a lot of people did.
00:12:43.900 A lot of conservatives did demand boycotts and firings and all the rest of it.
00:12:47.640 And we know, of course, that if the person who made the offensive remark about wounded warriors was himself a Republican,
00:12:56.680 most of these Republicans would not be reacting this way.
00:13:02.480 And do you know how I know that?
00:13:04.360 Because President Trump famously mocked a disabled war veteran and POW named John McCain.
00:13:12.120 Not only mocked him, but mocked him for being a POW.
00:13:16.420 And most of the people outraged by a comedian's joke actually defended the comment from Trump when you could easily make the case that the comment from Trump was 10 times worse because Trump's not a comedian.
00:13:29.980 He was a presidential candidate.
00:13:31.520 This was a comedian.
00:13:32.240 Which is just, it's such a blatant double standard that I would be shocked by it if I wasn't so jaded and cynical and completely used to double standards.
00:13:44.160 But the people that defended Trump's comment yet are calling for boycotts because of this, they must know that they're being hypocrites.
00:13:51.840 It's like, you must look in the mirror and say to yourself, I am being a total hypocrite, and I know it.
00:13:59.840 And we can't become comfortable with hypocrisy.
00:14:02.940 Look, here's my point.
00:14:08.280 First of all, there used to be a time not too long ago when comedians would make outrageously offensive jokes constantly.
00:14:21.340 Jokes that would be several orders of magnitude worse than what Pete Davidson said.
00:14:27.140 But in fact, you don't even have to go back that far.
00:14:32.440 There was a Comedy Central roast.
00:14:37.160 I forget who was being roasted.
00:14:38.460 It was only a couple of years ago.
00:14:41.100 And Davidson himself, Pete Davidson was at the roast.
00:14:45.640 And other comedians were mocking him because his dad died on 9-11.
00:14:50.220 They were not only making 9-11 jokes, but they were making 9-11 jokes about Pete Davidson's dad who died.
00:14:59.100 Now, speaking of 9-11 and offensive jokes, Gilbert Gottfried, who is known for being outrageous and making jokes about the most horrible kinds of things,
00:15:10.520 actually made a 9-11 joke in New York, like two weeks after the attack.
00:15:16.020 He was in New York, and he made a joke in front of his whole audience.
00:15:18.780 And, of course, he was booed off the stage.
00:15:22.200 But this is the kind of stuff that comedians used to do.
00:15:24.820 Someone reminded me yesterday of, and I remember seeing this when it happened.
00:15:29.800 In 2005 or 2006, Norm MacDonald went on The Daily Show only a few days after Steve Irwin died.
00:15:39.020 And he proceeded to joke about it for five minutes.
00:15:41.260 He went into this extended riff where he was imagining how disappointed the crocodiles must have been that a stingray killed Steve Irwin and one of them wasn't able to.
00:15:54.580 In fact, they were disappointed that a fruity fish killed Steve Irwin instead of one of them.
00:16:00.820 I mean, these days, even to use the word fruity in that context would probably get him boycotted.
00:16:08.620 But saying nothing of the fact that he was making fun of this guy who just died like two days before.
00:16:14.780 And those are just a couple of recent examples.
00:16:16.400 You go back decades, go back to Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Don Rickles, I mean, all those guys.
00:16:21.680 And you find comedians making absolutely outrageous jokes about really dark subject matter.
00:16:29.300 And sometimes the jokes aren't funny.
00:16:32.340 Like Davidson joke was not funny.
00:16:34.940 Sometimes they're horrible, but you can't help but laugh.
00:16:38.660 Sometimes they really do cross a line, and they're unfunny.
00:16:44.840 Davidson's joke crossed a line, it was unfunny.
00:16:47.880 I think the jokes directed at him about his dad dying on 9-11, those are not funny, and they cross a line.
00:16:53.260 But we have to ask ourselves,
00:16:55.520 would we rather live in a world where offensive comedians can be offensive without it turning into a boycott,
00:17:04.080 or do we like living in this world where every outrageous joke becomes its own news cycle?
00:17:10.980 Maybe another way of putting it is this.
00:17:14.400 What was actually wrong with the original way of doing things?
00:17:21.180 Was anyone being harmed by these jokes?
00:17:23.660 I mean, if you lived through the dark times of, say, the 90s,
00:17:32.080 when comedians would make horrible jokes all the time, constantly,
00:17:35.560 about all kinds of things, and nobody batted an eye,
00:17:40.580 but if you could go back in a time machine to the 90s,
00:17:44.280 would you look around and say to yourself,
00:17:45.640 wow, you know, the fact that comedians can make offensive jokes, that's a big problem.
00:17:49.260 We have to do, you know, this is a problem.
00:17:51.040 Is our new approach, our readiness to be offended by any joke,
00:17:57.300 is that solving some kind of problem?
00:18:00.460 What problem was solved by this?
00:18:04.760 I don't think it is.
00:18:05.800 I think it's just...
00:18:07.880 And it becomes all the way...
00:18:08.980 You know, I think people get this wrong,
00:18:10.180 because people say, well, we're so sensitive these days.
00:18:13.260 And that is part of it.
00:18:14.320 I mean, we are sensitive, too sensitive.
00:18:16.200 But it's even worse than that,
00:18:19.820 because I think our sensitivity is often performative.
00:18:25.600 It's theatrical.
00:18:28.840 It's not really sensitivity that's ruining comedy.
00:18:32.540 It's partisanship.
00:18:34.960 Partisanship on the part of the comedians,
00:18:37.460 who are selective these days in their targets based on politics.
00:18:43.340 And we all know how comedians...
00:18:47.340 You know, when we talk about what's killing comedy,
00:18:49.480 we have to keep in mind that
00:18:50.500 many of these comedians themselves killed comedy
00:18:54.040 by the fact that even political satirists,
00:18:58.220 people that, you know,
00:18:58.820 SNL is supposed to be political satire,
00:19:00.820 but for eight years,
00:19:01.720 they had no jokes to make about the president,
00:19:03.980 which was a death blow to comedy in and of itself.
00:19:07.480 So there's partisanship on the part of the comedians
00:19:10.060 and then partisanship on the part of the public,
00:19:13.240 where we're just looking for any opportunity,
00:19:18.220 any ammo we can find to throw at the other side.
00:19:22.280 And so we look at comedy through that lens.
00:19:25.600 It's not just that comedians themselves
00:19:27.380 are presenting the comedy through a partisan lens.
00:19:30.640 They are doing that.
00:19:31.440 But we also are receiving the comedy through a partisan lens
00:19:34.840 and deciding what we think is funny
00:19:37.060 and what we think is offensive
00:19:38.220 based on our partisanship.
00:19:43.440 And that's just...
00:19:44.840 I mean, it's fatal to comedy, first of all.
00:19:47.000 And that's kind of a tragedy
00:19:47.940 because who wants...
00:19:48.860 I mean, who wants to live in a world without comedy?
00:19:51.300 I think that's one of the...
00:19:53.060 For human beings,
00:19:53.880 I feel like that's an essential ingredient
00:19:55.500 to living a human life.
00:19:57.500 You need...
00:19:57.840 You need humor, right?
00:20:00.520 You need to be able to laugh.
00:20:01.460 And I would say it's better to err on the side
00:20:07.640 of laughing at too many things
00:20:09.660 than not being able to laugh at anything
00:20:12.120 because there's always some partisan snowflake
00:20:15.340 ready to get offended.
00:20:17.760 And again, this is not...
00:20:19.000 I'm not defending the joke.
00:20:20.300 It was a horrible, stupid, unfunny joke.
00:20:22.600 So, you know, we can all say that.
00:20:24.400 It's okay to point that out even.
00:20:25.940 But what I'm talking about is the boycotts
00:20:28.240 and firing him
00:20:28.980 and let's make it into a news cycle.
00:20:30.200 That's what I'm talking about.
00:20:31.460 That's the problem.
00:20:33.380 I think our reaction to those kind of jokes
00:20:35.000 should be exactly the reaction
00:20:36.380 that Crenshaw himself had,
00:20:37.920 which was, it's a funny, stupid joke.
00:20:40.860 Now I'm moving on with my life.
00:20:43.840 Or unfunny, stupid joke, I meant to say.
00:20:47.880 Okay.
00:20:50.060 Finally, one more subject here
00:20:51.360 that I want to talk about.
00:20:53.400 There was a teacher by the name of Marston Riley
00:20:55.720 in Los Angeles
00:20:58.000 who was arrested for child abuse.
00:21:04.080 I think it was last week
00:21:05.340 after punching one of his students.
00:21:08.740 And the...
00:21:09.960 Let me see here.
00:21:12.720 The incident was caught on camera.
00:21:14.620 And so you see the 14-year-old kid
00:21:18.280 berating the teacher,
00:21:20.360 cussing him out,
00:21:21.140 taunting him,
00:21:22.460 refusing to leave the classroom.
00:21:25.440 Finally, he throws a basketball at the teacher
00:21:27.660 and then really gets in his face
00:21:29.320 and at which point Riley punches the kid
00:21:32.600 and a scuffle ensues
00:21:33.520 and Riley punches him several more times.
00:21:35.480 And now Riley, the teacher,
00:21:36.720 is being charged with a crime
00:21:38.020 and will probably lose his job.
00:21:40.780 Now, you know,
00:21:44.240 if you're familiar with me at all,
00:21:45.120 you know that I am not a defender
00:21:46.240 of the public school system
00:21:47.120 and I am not at all hesitant
00:21:49.100 to criticize teachers.
00:21:50.120 I do it frequently.
00:21:51.760 But I think it's absurd
00:21:53.640 to charge this man with a crime,
00:21:55.280 a child abuse?
00:21:57.860 Come on.
00:21:59.320 And I don't think he should be fired.
00:22:02.720 I have no problem saying
00:22:04.420 that this young punk
00:22:05.380 got exactly what he needed
00:22:06.800 and deserved.
00:22:08.400 I have no doubt
00:22:09.560 that a beatdown from the teacher
00:22:11.180 may be the...
00:22:12.120 This, you know,
00:22:13.200 I mean, I don't know.
00:22:14.080 We can't make assumptions
00:22:14.780 based on one video,
00:22:15.620 but this does not seem
00:22:17.580 like the sort of kid
00:22:18.500 who's really getting a lot
00:22:20.040 out of school, right?
00:22:21.620 And so this may end up being
00:22:23.340 the most important
00:22:24.260 educational moment
00:22:25.360 of his life up to this point.
00:22:27.420 It also doesn't seem
00:22:28.080 like the kind of kid
00:22:28.680 who's getting a lot
00:22:29.760 of education at home.
00:22:32.580 So this may...
00:22:33.520 This really may be
00:22:34.200 the most important lesson
00:22:35.080 he ever got.
00:22:37.320 And it didn't come in a book.
00:22:38.760 It came with a punch to the face.
00:22:40.440 Now, yeah,
00:22:41.200 obviously the teacher,
00:22:42.580 the school cannot outright
00:22:44.140 condone a teacher
00:22:45.700 punching a student,
00:22:47.560 even if the student
00:22:48.460 was cussing him out
00:22:49.280 and throwing objects
00:22:50.020 at him.
00:22:50.800 So what I think
00:22:51.320 the school should do
00:22:51.940 is they should suspend
00:22:52.760 the teacher with pay
00:22:54.440 for like a week
00:22:56.060 and then have him come back
00:22:57.480 and get back to his job
00:22:58.880 and they should expel
00:22:59.780 the student.
00:23:01.040 Expel the student,
00:23:02.080 give the teacher,
00:23:03.040 you know,
00:23:04.160 a paid one-week vacation
00:23:05.900 while they investigate
00:23:07.200 and then have him come back
00:23:08.440 and you know what?
00:23:09.040 I think even the teacher
00:23:09.920 should probably throw him
00:23:10.720 a nice little private party
00:23:12.520 in the faculty lounge,
00:23:13.620 bring cupcakes
00:23:14.220 and that kind of thing.
00:23:15.240 Not in front of everybody.
00:23:16.540 You know,
00:23:16.640 I'm not saying we throw him
00:23:17.400 a party in the auditorium.
00:23:18.680 I mean,
00:23:19.080 that would be kind of nice also,
00:23:21.060 but of course,
00:23:22.100 I know that won't happen.
00:23:25.580 I just,
00:23:26.400 I have a lot of sympathy
00:23:27.580 for the teacher
00:23:28.160 in this situation
00:23:28.820 and absolutely none
00:23:30.220 for the kid.
00:23:31.000 None.
00:23:33.240 And I think it's hard
00:23:34.340 for some people
00:23:35.060 to conceptualize
00:23:37.180 just what teachers
00:23:39.380 in certain districts
00:23:40.740 deal with.
00:23:41.460 Now,
00:23:42.720 it's not like this
00:23:43.360 in every school,
00:23:44.040 but in some schools
00:23:44.860 there are students
00:23:45.480 who are just absurdly abusive
00:23:47.780 to the teachers,
00:23:49.340 completely uncontrollable,
00:23:51.180 no respect for authority at all.
00:23:53.040 I mean,
00:23:53.480 really,
00:23:54.020 no respect,
00:23:54.900 none.
00:23:57.220 There are teachers
00:23:57.980 who are verbally abused
00:23:59.140 and berated
00:23:59.800 and sometimes physically abused
00:24:01.260 constantly,
00:24:02.780 every day.
00:24:04.360 And this is not
00:24:05.260 how it should be.
00:24:05.960 This is not,
00:24:06.500 this is not normal.
00:24:08.020 This is not what
00:24:10.100 an educational environment
00:24:11.260 is supposed to be like.
00:24:12.880 And I think that
00:24:13.640 we should tolerate
00:24:14.600 our teachers
00:24:15.440 being human on occasion.
00:24:17.400 I'll tell you this,
00:24:18.140 I would not be able
00:24:19.020 to deal with that
00:24:19.880 kind of behavior
00:24:20.660 every day
00:24:22.200 without smacking
00:24:24.180 somebody in the face.
00:24:25.020 I wouldn't be able
00:24:25.560 to do it.
00:24:26.300 And let me also say
00:24:26.960 that this is not
00:24:27.740 child abuse, okay?
00:24:29.560 The moment that a teenager
00:24:31.020 starts acting this way
00:24:32.420 towards an adult,
00:24:33.420 towards a grown man,
00:24:34.720 he is not a child anymore.
00:24:36.500 He clearly wants
00:24:37.360 to be a man
00:24:38.040 and he wants
00:24:38.440 to play a man's game
00:24:39.520 and he wants
00:24:40.500 to man up
00:24:41.160 and be a tough guy.
00:24:42.180 So I say,
00:24:43.100 let him face the consequences.
00:24:44.640 Child abuse.
00:24:46.580 Oh, the poor child
00:24:47.860 was abused.
00:24:49.540 No, the poor child
00:24:50.500 wanted to be a man
00:24:51.180 and he was treated
00:24:51.640 like one.
00:24:52.340 And maybe he learned
00:24:52.920 his lesson.
00:24:53.840 The idea that a teenager,
00:24:55.420 that a teenage delinquent
00:24:56.480 is some kind of pure,
00:24:57.920 innocent,
00:24:58.860 helpless child
00:25:00.220 is absurd.
00:25:03.480 And I really think
00:25:04.600 in these kinds
00:25:06.480 of situations,
00:25:07.440 we have to consider
00:25:08.760 the message.
00:25:10.300 Now, again,
00:25:10.740 I'm not suggesting
00:25:11.920 that there be
00:25:12.760 a new policy
00:25:13.460 at the school
00:25:14.020 saying, you know,
00:25:15.220 they put it
00:25:15.820 in the handbook
00:25:16.540 that if a kid
00:25:17.580 gets out of line,
00:25:18.560 the teacher's allowed
00:25:19.120 to punch him
00:25:19.500 in the face.
00:25:21.320 I think there could
00:25:22.380 be possibly some value
00:25:24.320 to a system like that,
00:25:25.160 but it could get chaotic.
00:25:27.400 So I'm not talking
00:25:28.120 about a change in policy.
00:25:29.240 I'm talking about
00:25:29.980 the school being
00:25:30.680 very, very lenient
00:25:31.960 strict in their discipline
00:25:33.400 of the teacher
00:25:34.040 and very, very strict
00:25:35.180 in their discipline
00:25:36.320 of the student
00:25:37.340 in this case.
00:25:38.600 And I'll tell you why.
00:25:40.300 Because, well,
00:25:40.840 number one,
00:25:41.260 like I said,
00:25:41.600 we have to allow
00:25:42.700 for a teacher
00:25:43.580 to be a human being
00:25:44.480 and react like
00:25:45.160 a human being.
00:25:46.920 And he reacted a way
00:25:48.380 that, especially
00:25:49.460 if you're dealing
00:25:49.960 with this every day,
00:25:50.740 I mean, eventually
00:25:51.400 you just get worn down.
00:25:52.520 You can't deal
00:25:53.960 with this every single day.
00:25:55.360 But we also have
00:25:59.040 to think about
00:25:59.460 the message.
00:26:02.160 So if the teacher
00:26:03.060 is fired,
00:26:04.180 what's the message?
00:26:05.480 The message
00:26:05.960 is that delinquent kids
00:26:08.300 can act like animals
00:26:10.020 without any consequences.
00:26:13.980 Or without any
00:26:14.860 immediate consequences,
00:26:16.080 I should say.
00:26:17.520 The message is that
00:26:18.580 kids can abuse teachers
00:26:20.040 and they will never
00:26:21.000 have to worry
00:26:21.620 about their own safety.
00:26:22.800 They will never have
00:26:23.280 to worry about
00:26:23.780 any sort of retaliation.
00:26:25.360 They can act
00:26:26.000 however they want
00:26:26.820 towards adults
00:26:28.360 and the adults
00:26:29.000 will never
00:26:29.500 defend themselves.
00:26:30.680 Is that really
00:26:31.560 the right message?
00:26:33.740 Do you think
00:26:34.500 that that doesn't
00:26:35.280 embolden the delinquents?
00:26:37.000 Do you think
00:26:37.360 they don't realize
00:26:38.360 that teachers
00:26:39.020 are powerless
00:26:39.780 and then exploit
00:26:41.380 that situation?
00:26:42.240 Because I'll tell you,
00:26:42.900 they do.
00:26:45.400 The students
00:26:46.200 in these schools,
00:26:48.220 they realize
00:26:50.420 that they can
00:26:51.800 get in a teacher's face,
00:26:52.680 they can even
00:26:53.020 physically abuse
00:26:53.780 a teacher,
00:26:54.180 and the teacher
00:26:55.120 cannot do anything
00:26:56.500 without having
00:26:57.900 to worry about
00:26:58.260 going to jail
00:26:58.860 and being fired.
00:26:59.820 They realize that
00:27:01.220 and they exploit it.
00:27:02.940 Every day,
00:27:04.080 constantly,
00:27:04.620 they are exploiting
00:27:05.600 that fact.
00:27:07.180 So my point is,
00:27:08.900 maybe a student
00:27:09.680 should have to worry
00:27:11.340 that his lip
00:27:12.460 will get busted
00:27:13.000 if he gets
00:27:13.400 in a teacher's face.
00:27:14.640 What's the downside
00:27:15.880 to a student
00:27:17.120 having to worry
00:27:17.900 about that?
00:27:18.780 I mean,
00:27:19.860 really,
00:27:20.480 what's the downside?
00:27:21.100 What's the downside
00:27:22.800 to a student
00:27:23.320 having to think
00:27:23.820 to himself,
00:27:24.660 hmm,
00:27:26.000 you know,
00:27:26.260 if I act
00:27:26.800 like a total animal
00:27:27.920 to this grown man
00:27:29.140 and I get in his face
00:27:29.980 and I hurl
00:27:30.480 an object at him,
00:27:31.700 he might punch me
00:27:32.420 in the face.
00:27:33.640 What's the downside?
00:27:35.060 What are we worried?
00:27:35.700 So we worry
00:27:36.540 that the poor,
00:27:37.780 helpless child
00:27:38.920 may be traumatized
00:27:40.080 by that realization.
00:27:42.380 He may feel unsafe.
00:27:44.180 He'll feel unsafe
00:27:45.180 in school.
00:27:45.780 Well,
00:27:45.960 he should feel unsafe
00:27:47.220 when he's acting like that.
00:27:48.320 That's the point.
00:27:50.000 There's a limit
00:27:51.340 about,
00:27:53.740 you know,
00:27:54.780 there's a limit
00:27:55.500 on human actions
00:27:56.920 and if you act
00:27:58.060 outside that limit,
00:27:59.880 you should have
00:28:01.000 to feel unsafe.
00:28:02.160 You should have
00:28:02.580 to think to yourself,
00:28:03.940 you know what,
00:28:04.260 if I keep carrying
00:28:04.900 on this way,
00:28:05.560 I might get punched
00:28:06.580 in the face.
00:28:07.400 I think that is
00:28:08.080 a good calculation
00:28:09.040 for a person
00:28:09.920 to have to make,
00:28:11.700 including kids.
00:28:13.240 Now,
00:28:13.440 obviously,
00:28:13.920 it's different.
00:28:14.300 If we're talking
00:28:14.680 about a five-year-old,
00:28:15.700 it's a totally
00:28:16.120 different situation.
00:28:16.880 But 14,
00:28:18.080 15-year-old,
00:28:19.000 15 years old,
00:28:19.840 I'm sorry.
00:28:20.660 You know,
00:28:21.320 I think now
00:28:23.000 you've reached an age
00:28:24.680 where if you want
00:28:25.300 to puff up your chest
00:28:26.320 and act like a man,
00:28:27.440 you might be treated
00:28:28.040 like one
00:28:28.480 and you can't
00:28:29.720 complain about it.
00:28:31.120 The school issued
00:28:32.080 a statement
00:28:32.620 and from the statement,
00:28:34.640 it seems like
00:28:35.120 they're definitely
00:28:35.560 going in the wrong
00:28:36.220 direction with this.
00:28:37.100 The statement is,
00:28:38.520 we are extremely disturbed
00:28:40.120 by the reports
00:28:40.760 of the events
00:28:41.260 that occurred
00:28:41.700 at Maywood Academy
00:28:43.040 High School.
00:28:43.580 We take this matter
00:28:45.060 very seriously
00:28:45.780 and do not condone
00:28:46.720 violence or intolerance
00:28:47.880 of any kind.
00:28:49.100 Los Angeles Unified
00:28:49.900 is cooperating
00:28:50.480 with law enforcement.
00:28:51.460 Crisis counselors
00:28:52.460 and additional
00:28:53.840 school police patrols
00:28:54.860 will be at school
00:28:55.380 on Monday
00:28:55.740 to support our students
00:28:56.900 and staff.
00:28:58.360 We don't condone
00:28:59.380 intolerance?
00:29:01.680 Really?
00:29:02.540 So intolerance?
00:29:04.500 Well,
00:29:04.860 you should condone
00:29:05.840 that sort of,
00:29:06.780 there should be
00:29:07.920 intolerance
00:29:08.840 to that sort of behavior.
00:29:09.900 What are you talking about?
00:29:11.360 So their problem
00:29:12.300 with what the teacher did
00:29:13.580 was not only
00:29:14.140 was it violent,
00:29:14.760 but it was intolerant.
00:29:16.640 Of course it's intolerant.
00:29:18.740 The kid is acting
00:29:19.740 in a completely
00:29:20.360 intolerable way.
00:29:23.160 So he should meet
00:29:24.260 intolerance.
00:29:26.240 Crisis counselors.
00:29:27.500 I mean,
00:29:27.840 come on.
00:29:28.900 This is exactly
00:29:30.300 the wrong.
00:29:30.580 I'm telling you,
00:29:32.240 I know schools feel
00:29:32.960 like they have to react
00:29:33.740 this way,
00:29:34.020 but you react this way,
00:29:35.100 all you're doing,
00:29:36.220 you may as well
00:29:37.500 write in a written invitation
00:29:40.400 to every delinquent
00:29:41.700 at the school saying,
00:29:43.100 please act like
00:29:44.360 even worse animals
00:29:46.060 than you've already
00:29:46.620 been acting.
00:29:47.880 Here you go.
00:29:48.480 Here's an invitation.
00:29:50.020 Please go and get
00:29:51.100 in your teacher's face
00:29:52.140 and taunt and berate him.
00:29:53.960 And, you know,
00:29:54.660 please RSVP by noon
00:29:56.420 to let us know.
00:29:57.040 You may as well,
00:29:57.860 you may as well
00:29:58.280 hand out invitations
00:29:59.000 at that point
00:29:59.500 because that's how
00:30:00.360 the kids take it.
00:30:02.020 Whereas if we could
00:30:02.920 just use a little bit
00:30:03.900 of common human sense
00:30:06.180 and say,
00:30:09.500 you know what?
00:30:11.080 We cannot officially
00:30:13.680 condone a teacher
00:30:16.780 delivering a physical
00:30:18.760 beatdown to a student,
00:30:19.960 but the kid
00:30:20.740 definitely deserved it.
00:30:22.060 This is a good teacher
00:30:23.120 by all accounts,
00:30:24.140 good man,
00:30:25.320 and he just lost his cool.
00:30:28.200 Go settle down,
00:30:29.480 little paid vacation.
00:30:30.860 We'll call it discipline.
00:30:32.640 It's not really.
00:30:33.880 You'll come back in a week
00:30:35.040 and everything will be fine.
00:30:36.940 And that kid is going
00:30:37.860 to be out of the school.
00:30:38.560 So then the students
00:30:39.960 have to say to themselves,
00:30:41.320 you know what?
00:30:41.740 If I act that way
00:30:42.560 to a teacher,
00:30:43.480 not only might I get
00:30:45.140 my nose broken,
00:30:46.460 but I'm going to get expelled
00:30:47.440 and that teacher
00:30:47.960 is going to get to stay.
00:30:50.500 What's wrong with that?
00:30:51.660 Isn't that exactly
00:30:52.860 the message
00:30:53.500 that the students
00:30:54.240 should hear?
00:30:55.780 Unless you want chaos
00:30:57.640 in the schools,
00:30:58.340 which is exactly
00:30:59.080 what you get
00:30:59.640 in many of these schools.
00:31:00.460 In many of these schools,
00:31:01.400 it's not an exaggeration
00:31:02.380 to say there is
00:31:03.060 just total chaos.
00:31:04.600 Because when the kids
00:31:06.660 don't respect the adults
00:31:08.860 and they have no reason
00:31:09.820 to respect them
00:31:10.600 and the adults
00:31:12.940 have their hands
00:31:13.640 tied behind their back,
00:31:14.760 it's just kids
00:31:15.440 are going to exploit that.
00:31:17.400 And so I think
00:31:17.880 we have to rethink
00:31:19.600 our approach
00:31:21.920 in those cases.
00:31:24.040 All right.
00:31:25.040 We'll leave it there.
00:31:26.200 Big day tomorrow.
00:31:27.420 Voting.
00:31:28.600 Please keep in mind
00:31:29.320 what we discussed
00:31:29.900 at the beginning of the show.
00:31:31.000 And I'll talk to you tomorrow.
00:31:32.440 Godspeed.