00:00:00.000Today on the Matt Wall Show, schools have become far more violent, unruly, and chaotic over the past decade, but the system has found ways to cook the stats and hide how bad it's actually gotten.
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00:01:55.060There's an inconvenient paradox that at one point or another, every social justice scholar has to wrestle with, and that paradox is this.
00:02:02.920Even as the entire country forcibly implements every single one of their wishlist items, no matter how extreme or untethered from reality they may be, the result is that people's lives get objectively worse.
00:02:13.700And I'm not just talking about a little worse.
00:02:16.160Pretty much everyone's life measurably gets a lot worse.
00:02:19.220If you have a child in public school system, you know that students have suffered in particular from this situation, but you may not realize how stark the decline has been because no one's really reported on these specific numbers.
00:02:32.560So a couple of years ago, the Department of Education took a look at serious incidents occurring in public schools in the years 2009 through 2010, the 2009-2010 school year.
00:02:42.180They then compared that data with the number of serious incidents that occurred a decade later in the 2019-2020 school year, which is mostly pre-pandemic.
00:02:52.120And this is what's known in the statistics biz as a longitudinal analysis.
00:02:57.120And if there's one thing leftists hate, it's longitudinal analysis.
00:03:00.620Because you're not supposed to think about the past, because if you do that, you might realize that it was a lot better than the current progressive experiment that we're all living through.
00:03:11.140And as the Department of Education found, that's especially true in schools.
00:03:15.440Because the percentage of public schools reporting widespread disorder in the classroom, at least once per week, increased by more than 60% from 2009 to 2019.
00:03:26.660Rates of widespread disorder in the classroom jumped by more than 60% in just a decade.
00:03:31.980Meanwhile, the percentage of public schools reporting students' verbal abuse of teachers, at least once per week, as well as cyberbullying, increased by more than 100%.
00:03:41.880Racial and ethnic tensions among students increased by more than 30%.
00:03:47.920I mean, this was the era of Barack Obama and teachable moments.
00:03:51.980This was the era that we learned that gender is a supposedly social construct.
00:03:56.080This was the era that pride parades became mandatory in every major city in the country.
00:03:59.860It was also, you might remember, the era that every newspaper and media outlet in the country began harping about police brutality.
00:04:06.520This was the decade of Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner and Tamir Rice and Philando Castile, Alton Sterling, and so on.
00:04:15.420BLM and racial tolerance were all on the upswing during this decade.
00:04:20.140Could all of this left-wing social engineering have backfired?
00:04:23.800Could it be the reason that schools were now far more chaotic and dangerous than ever?
00:04:27.900Confronted with this problem, school administrators had two choices.
00:04:32.540They could have admitted that the progressive experiment was failing and started disciplining students and restoring order without regard to skin color or ethnicity or anything like that.
00:04:42.680Or they could come up with a way to cook the statistics.
00:04:46.100In the end, of course, they decided on the latter option.
00:04:48.640And the hysteria of the so-called racial reckoning post-George Floyd gave them their opening.
00:04:54.840As the BLM moral panic overtook the world back in 2020, the idea of, quote-unquote, restorative practices or restorative justice took hold in schools all over the country.
00:05:05.200A new report from the parental rights group Parents Defending Education found that more than 18,000 schools across more than 500 school districts now have these, quote-unquote, restorative policies in place.
00:05:32.000The Coachella Valley Unified School District is turning to restorative justice programs, a different approach when it comes to disciplinary policies for students.
00:05:42.520Schools have reported significant improvements in suspension rates and the school climates.
00:05:47.900News Channel 3's Madison Weil has more on that program and why administrators say it's working.
00:05:52.320For decades, East Valley communities have experienced higher rates of poverty and lower rates of high school graduation.
00:06:00.760A new case study takes a look at why this is and offers up a simple solution, restorative justice programs in the classroom.
00:06:08.600A restorative justice in schools is really about a culture shift away from zero tolerance.
00:06:13.860The program, led by a group called Alianza Coachella Valley, they explain that restorative justice programs change the way students are disciplined in school.
00:06:23.320Instead of automatically disciplining a student, teachers are trained to open up a conversation first, trying to instead communicate and identify the underlying challenges a student might be facing at home.
00:06:35.420We no longer send kids to detention. We don't use the D word any longer.
00:06:39.780Instead of a suspension, there's a conversation.
00:06:42.500We train the teachers their understanding now to question the child.
00:06:45.980The new case study found that schools using restorative justice experienced reduced suspension rates, improved class participation, and better relationships between students, parents, and district staff.
00:06:58.680So, in the name of restorative justice, they stopped detentions and suspensions in this school district, which covers more than a dozen schools across 1,200 square miles.
00:07:08.720And what do you know? The number of suspensions went down.
00:07:11.380They stopped suspending people, and therefore, there were fewer suspensions.
00:07:15.980We're meant to believe this is a sign that the new approach is working.
00:07:19.340But, of course, it's not a sign that it's working. It's the opposite.
00:07:21.640It's the same reason the number of traffic citations in San Francisco has just gone to zero.
00:07:27.720And it's not because there's some sort of miraculous occurrence and everyone in San Francisco drives perfectly now.
00:07:32.680It's because the police stopped enforcing traffic laws and shoplifting laws and public urination laws and every other law.
00:07:39.340Now, as for the other claims about restorative justice, how it's promoted better relationships in the school and so on,
00:07:46.260well, that's not remotely accurate either, obviously.
00:07:48.480And we know that because a little over a year after the report I just showed you,
00:07:52.700the reality of the situation became impossible to ignore.
00:07:55.400Armed with restorative justice, schools in Coachella Valley became much more violent.
00:08:43.620Reports of broken noses, kids being carried off by ambulance.
00:08:47.820These students pummel each other, pulled away only when the security guards dragged them off.
00:08:53.320These brutal fights exploded across Coachella Valley High School at the beginning of this year, according to teachers we spoke with.
00:09:04.580Staff here, burnt out just months in, spoke to us.
00:09:08.220They did not want to show their faces for fear of retaliation, saying they felt abandoned by administration.
00:09:14.200This is why you have to be very careful whenever anyone cites statistics about crime or violence or any other kind of dysfunction, because they'll say that it's going down and everything is getting better.
00:09:25.980Meanwhile, you can go outside and talk to anyone and they'll tell you the opposite.
00:09:29.600That's not what they're observing in their everyday life.
00:09:31.540And that's because the statistics are extremely easy to manipulate.
00:09:35.460Stop enforcing the rules and the statistics will show that there are fewer rule breakers.
00:09:39.480Eventually, this news report gets around to acknowledging that they make the observation that the number of suspensions has been plummeting, even as the fights are obviously becoming more common.
00:09:49.580And then they connect the dots with restorative justice.
00:09:54.220CVUSD has long had a higher incidence of school violence resulting in injury than the other two districts in the Valley.
00:10:01.020And it's the only Valley district that doesn't have police officers assigned to its campuses getting rid of them back in 2018.
00:10:08.360Still for the violence reported during the first three months of this school year at CV High School, the number of suspended kids due to violence this year is the lowest at CVUSD compared to Desert Sands and Palm Springs Unified.
00:10:21.520Some teachers accused CVUSD of trying to make itself look better on paper by keeping suspension rates down.
00:10:29.940It could explain why school violence with injury is its highest suspension category compared to Desert Sands and Palm Springs, which both have fights without injury as their highest.
00:10:40.500Either CVUSD has very few fights without injuries or CVUSD chooses to suspend only in the most serious of cases.
00:10:48.940Another reason for recent low suspension rates, in late 2020, CVUSD took on the restorative justice approach, meaning instead of using punitive discipline on kids who break the rules, they use counseling guidance and mediation in response.
00:11:03.800The district has said this approach is working, especially at the middle school level.
00:11:08.100So this kind of slow-burning realization has played out all over the country in just the past few years.
00:11:13.300For example, around last Thanksgiving, a school in Memphis, Trezavant High, promoted its own restorative practices.
00:11:19.820They're a little more vague than the Coachella School District, and they don't use the term restorative justice.
00:11:25.140But according to Parents Defending Education, in most cases, the two terms are basically interchangeable.
00:11:30.080And here's what it means at Trezavant High.
00:11:36.460Memphis Shelby County Schools is trending up.
00:11:38.820The Student Equity Enrollment and Discipline Department and WKNO would like to spotlight an exceptional school today.
00:11:46.000Trezavant High School, led by Principal Brent.
00:11:49.480Principal Brent, your school has done a dynamic job of using restorative practices like being kind to each other and being responsible.
00:11:56.940Can you tell me what makes your school so great?
00:11:59.420First of all, we keep our ears open, our eyes, snap, for we can be able to foster an environment for a learner that can be conducive to all our scholars.
00:12:07.760We make sure that our scholars take their high-quality education courses and make sure they also have the opportunity to go to the technical path and be able to exemplify what a true scholar is.
00:12:16.920So, yes, restorative practices mean being kind to each other and being responsible.
00:12:21.540Before we had the social justice terminology of restorative practices, no one ever knew how to be kind or responsible.
00:12:27.560That's the implication. This is a revolutionary concept.
00:12:29.860Who needs religion or morality when you have social justice leftism, I guess?
00:12:34.280Well, not to spoil anything, but it turns out that we still need religion and morality because restorative practices have been a disaster at this school.
00:12:42.300In just the past month, a student and a teacher got into a fight on camera, and a student allegedly popped off some shots on school grounds as well.
00:12:50.180A video that many of you guys have seen on social media of a student and a teacher fighting happened here at Tresvent High School.
00:12:59.980I spoke to someone who was inside during the fight, and they tell me they believe the teacher is in the wrong.
00:13:07.100He pushed him, and he wasn't supposed to get that aggressive with the student.
00:13:10.100This student does not feel comfortable identifying himself because he is currently suspended from Tresvent High School for being in the fight.
00:13:16.620He'd happened on Tuesday afternoon in the cafeteria.
00:13:19.360You can see here the student face-to-face with the teacher wearing a purple shirt.
00:13:23.320That's when the teacher pushes the student back.
00:13:27.480If the teacher put hands on him first, then of course the student is going to react.
00:13:34.480Ain't no student going to let anybody put their hands on them, whether they're an adult or another child.
00:13:39.600Ladera Young believes this teacher should face discipline, but another parent disagrees, saying the teacher had no choice but to defend himself.
00:13:49.440The other students in the classroom would figure out that they can do the same.
00:13:54.960And the students trigger the fight off if you look at the video.
00:13:58.220Also tonight, a mother and son are charged after the son fired shots on the grounds of Tresvent High School.
00:14:03.680On March 22nd, officers responded to a shooting call in the high school after a student fired a shot at two victims.
00:14:10.820Police say he had gotten into a fight at school earlier that same day.
00:14:14.460His mother, Deborah Rawls, took him out of school, but the son came back to school and waited for the two victims to be dismissed before he shot at them.
00:14:22.340After this, the mother was seen leaving their car and running toward her son, but they were then picked up by a car and drove away.
00:14:28.960She never contacted MPD about what happened.
00:14:31.660So anyone looking at the school knows that restorative practices aren't the solution to this chaos.
00:15:35.780So that's a video you've probably seen.
00:15:51.040And the white girl who was beaten suffered brain bleeding and a skull fracture.
00:15:54.720She spent a month in the hospital, followed by rehab.
00:15:58.000In response to this footage, Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey said that he wanted the attacker to be charged as an adult.
00:16:03.960He didn't want restorative justice. He wanted actual justice.
00:16:08.180He also said he was investigating possible violations of human rights laws.
00:16:11.720He wrote, quote, I'm launching an investigation at the Hazelwood School District after a student was senselessly assaulted by another student in broad daylight.
00:16:18.700The entire community deserves answers on how Hazelwood's radical DEI programs resulted in such despicable safety failures that resulted in a student fighting for her life.
00:16:28.020Several of those DEI policies were unearthed by libs of TikTok on her Twitter feed, which you can go see.
00:16:34.000Bailey also wrote that, quote, the absence of SRO, school resource officers, on the scene is directly attributable to Hazelwood's insistence on prioritizing race-based policies over basic student safety.
00:16:45.080So what did the Hazelwood School District do in response?
00:16:49.080You already know the answer to that question.
00:16:50.980They accused the Attorney General, of course, of racism.
00:16:53.800The school district's lawyer said that Bailey has, quote, obvious racial bias against majority-minority school districts.
00:17:00.720The lawyer also claimed that the school resource officers, quote, would not have prevented a fight from occurring off school property and outside of school the school day.
00:17:08.740And then they filed an ethics complaint against the Attorney General.
00:17:15.240They have shown no signs whatsoever that they intend to revisit their commitment to restorative justice.
00:17:20.800Of course, what's happening in Missouri and across the country is a multifaceted problem.
00:17:25.780Restorative justice isn't helping, but it's obviously not the sole cause of all this chaos in schools.
00:17:31.060It starts with terrible parenting, which is maybe the single greatest predictor of dysfunction that exists in the world.
00:17:37.520What restorative justice does is validate and absolve this dysfunction and promote it, encourage it, facilitate it.
00:17:45.980Instead of making any real effort to correct it, the point is to enable it while also hiding it from public view as much as possible.
00:17:54.040We see the same approach to restorative justice in the criminal justice system, where the stakes are higher and the results predictably are even worse.
00:18:00.220In the nation's capital, restorative justice means that you can fire 26 rounds from an AR-15 at a moving vehicle on camera, on multiple cameras, and get out of jail immediately.
00:18:11.680It means you can commit arson and attack police officers with impunity.
00:18:16.240Where well-adjusted people see an obvious problem here, the promoters of restorative justice see a success story.
00:18:24.060The beatings will continue until the restorative justice improves.
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00:21:31.560And just to do the math on that, that's like one cut every three seconds thereabouts.
00:21:38.180So Joe Biden could not make it more than three seconds without having to cut.
00:21:43.440And yeah, I know they try to dress it up, you know, with the music in the background.
00:21:47.240They try to dress it up like it was an intentional stylistic choice, you know, because all the kids are making videos like this these days.
00:22:04.380And anyway, shortly after the video, it was announced that there would be two debates with the first one at the end of June, June 27th, I think, on CNN.
00:22:52.000The same media that is coordinating this PR stunt for Biden is also going to be, they're going to be the ones that are moderating this debate.
00:22:59.920And there are some ground rules to these debates.
00:23:03.380The communications director for the Biden campaign was on CNN later that day to talk about the rules and what their demands are.
00:23:18.640You want it in a television studio without an audience.
00:23:21.020Does that mean if the Trump campaign insists on an audience, no deal?
00:23:27.540Listen, I think the Trump campaign made their proposal very clear when Donald Trump said he'd be willing to debate anytime, anywhere, anyplace.
00:23:34.280And so what we want and what we have laid out is that we want to do this sooner rather than later.
00:23:38.960We should do it in June after his criminal trial is likely to have concluded.
00:23:42.040And after the president returns from the G7 summit, it should be, yes, in studio with no audience so that the candidates can clearly articulate their vision for the country.
00:23:51.640Is an audience a deal breaker for you?
00:23:58.380Listen, it's Donald Trump who said he would do this anytime, anywhere, anyplace.
00:24:02.500So I don't think that they should have any problems with what we have proposed.
00:24:06.300He's the one who said he's ready to go.
00:24:08.160So we should be set to go once we have proposals in from networks.
00:24:45.380So we should have a debate between the two candidates on the issues.
00:24:48.980Joe Biden will articulate his historic record of accomplishment, his vision for the future.
00:24:53.360And Donald Trump will go out here and try to explain why he's bragging about overturning Roe v.
00:24:57.760Wade, why he's trying to rebuild an economy that only works for rich people like himself, why he's trying to rule as a dictator on day one.
00:25:03.980That's the debate that the American people deserve to see in prime time.
00:25:25.860Now, I know why the Biden campaign wants an empty room.
00:25:30.280It's not for the same reasons that I do as a viewer.
00:25:32.960They want it because they don't want to risk Biden getting booed.
00:25:36.660They also don't want anything distracting Biden.
00:25:41.440Who, you know, they're already going to have to have him hopped up on who knows what in order to get through this thing.
00:25:46.920And so they don't want anything to distract.
00:25:49.800They just want to keep things like as toned down as possible so they can get grandpa through this thing and then get him up to his to his very late bedtime.
00:28:02.420Um, and the fact that they've stacked the deck in this way, cutting the mics off, no audience, having it on CNN, of course, is the main way they stack the deck.
00:28:13.460Uh, that's, there are, there are some conservatives making the argument that Trump should not even agree to this because he's walking into what's supposed to be a trap.
00:28:23.600And I can see that argument, but I think that even with the deck stacked against him, uh, it, there's only so much they can do with, on the Biden campaign to paper over the fact that their guy's a vegetable.
00:28:42.760And so it's still the advantage, no matter what they do, no matter what rules they put in place, they can put a rule in place that you have a time limit of 20 seconds for each answer.
00:28:51.720Um, and still the advantage goes to Trump because Joe Biden's a vegetable.
00:28:55.280Um, and we also know that, you know, Biden has basically two gears that he's capable of.
00:29:04.940And the first gear is the one that he's usually in, which is just him wandering around and babbling nonsensically.
00:29:09.960Uh, they don't want that gear for him with this.
00:29:13.160The only other gear that he has is angry and shouting.
00:29:15.800And that's kind of what we saw with the state of the union address.
00:29:18.180And there were plenty of people that were, that were impressed with the state of the union address because he actually made it through the whole thing without falling over or falling asleep or, you know, pooping his pants or whatever, as far as we know.
00:29:28.040Um, but that's because they had him in that gear.
00:29:31.240He's, he's angry and shouting the entire time.
00:29:33.420Um, and which means that that's, that's the gear he's going to be in for this debate is we're going to get angry shouting Biden through the entire thing, which is going to not help his case.
00:29:43.960I think that's going to be a spectacle, um, that, that will work in Trump's favor.
00:30:05.580A 10 year old Indiana boy killed himself after being bullied relentlessly at school, according to his family, who claimed to have raised the alarm at least 20 times in the last year.
00:30:15.060Sammy, uh, Tausch, a fourth grader at Greenfield intermediate school was bullied right up until the night he died by suicide on May 5th.
00:30:23.560His dad, Sam said, I held him in my arms.
00:30:27.440I did the thing no father should ever have to do.
00:30:28.860And anytime I close my eyes, that's all I could see.
00:30:31.160Sammy's parents, Sam and Nicole said that they complained to the school roughly 20 times about the bullying that started last year when he was in elementary school.
00:30:38.260They were making fun of him for his glasses in the beginning.
00:30:40.120Then it went on to make fun of his teeth.
00:30:42.580His dad said, he was beat up on the school bus.
00:30:44.720The kids broke his glasses and everything.
00:30:46.060I called the school and I'm like, what are you doing about this?
00:30:48.200It's getting worse and worse and worse.
00:30:50.920The school district superintendent, Dr. Harold Olin, denied any bullying report had ever been submitted by either the parents or the boy.
00:30:57.760However, he acknowledged that the school's administrators and counselors had regular conversations with the family throughout the year without elaborating because of confidentiality rules.
00:31:06.220But that's a little bit hard to believe.
00:31:07.600The school's saying that there was no bullying reported.
00:31:10.160And yet you're also saying that the family had regular conversations with the counselors.
00:31:13.920Like, well, what are they talking about?
00:31:15.260If they're having regular conversations, it's almost certainly about that.
00:31:18.640What else would they be talking about?
00:31:22.320The boy's family insists that the fears have been made clear.
00:32:37.300But it's quite possible that there's really no one specifically to blame.
00:32:40.500Now, from the school's perspective, if they were negligent, if they made no attempt to address the problem, if they just ignored the concerns, well, then yes, then they deserve a significant amount of blame.
00:32:57.360But it's quite possible that the school may have heard these complaints and taken them seriously and done everything they could.
00:33:10.900When a child is in school and has been singled out as sort of a pariah for whatever random reason that this happens to you, and it is sort of random, that the bullies in the school just kind of hone in on one kid and decide that he's going to be the target.
00:33:31.180And when that happens, there's just only so much the school can do.
00:33:36.120They should try to do what they can, but there's only so much.
00:33:38.500And the problem is that it's a catch-22, because if they don't do anything, if they don't address it, if they don't try to discipline the bullies, then it will continue.
00:33:46.940But if they do, well, then you risk making the kid even more of a target, you know, because now the kid's going and hiding behind the teachers and all the rest of it.
00:33:58.480So I don't know the details, like anybody does, outside of those directly involved.
00:34:03.020But it's quite possible that the school did everything they could reasonably do, and it wasn't enough.
00:34:09.300And then on the parent's end of it, there's only so much a parent can do when you're sending your kid into school every day.
00:34:15.620When your kid's going into this environment, you can talk to your child after school.
00:34:21.920You can reach out to the school administrators.
00:34:24.200You can try to reach out to the parents of the kids who are tormenting your child.
00:34:28.360You can do all of that, but you can't go to school with him and walk with him from class to class and shield him physically from the bullying.
00:34:40.140And even if you could do that, again, you would probably only make it worse.
00:34:45.420So they could have easily done all of those things, and it wasn't enough.
00:34:50.900Like, ultimately, the only real answer in a situation like this is to get your kid out of school.
00:35:02.940And I would say that, now, I know it's easier said than done, and these parents may have been in a position where they just couldn't do that.
00:35:10.020Maybe they were working towards doing that, but they just couldn't do it right then and there.
00:35:14.080If you rely on, you know, if you're a dual-income house and you rely on both incomes to keep a roof over your head and there are no private schools in the area that you can afford and there's no other school you can send them to where there's any reason to think it'll be any better.
00:35:34.340Well, then homeschooling is the other option, and, you know, I'm a big advocate of homeschooling.
00:35:38.300I think it's the best thing for every kid if you can do it.
00:35:42.040But that means you have to go down to a one-income house because someone's got to stay home and do the homeschooling, and you might not be able to do that.
00:35:49.380As much of an advocate of homeschooling I am, I realize that it's not something that a family can just do at the drop of a hat.
00:36:19.040We are way past, oh, you know, this is a good opportunity for my child to learn how to deal with this sort of pressure, and they're going to have to deal with this in the real world.
00:36:39.140And the reason is, and we talked about this on, I was on Tim Pool's show last night.
00:36:42.180We talked about this a little bit, and I've talked about this many times.
00:36:45.180It's kind of this phenomenon of peer orientation, the peer culture.
00:36:50.000And this is what makes it so that it's, no child can really deal with it.
00:36:58.200And it's not, you know, you might hear from boomers sometimes, people that went to school decades and decades ago, and it's, oh, we had bullies all the time, and we didn't make as much of a big deal out of it.
00:37:16.500And it's different because of the just all-encompassing, pervasive peer culture that these kids are in.
00:37:23.860They go into the school environment, and they're in a culture now that is run by the peers, like the inmates are running the asylum.
00:37:30.220That's the way it works in every public school in the country.
00:37:32.280And it's like Lord of the Flies, you know, in every school, essentially, is how it goes.
00:37:40.560And they run, they run, they decide what the culture is, what the environment is.
00:37:46.980And so a child who has been rejected in that culture, and by his peer culture, this is an experience of, from his perspective, from the child's perspective,
00:37:59.740this is an experience of total social rejection.
00:38:04.100Now, the fact that we all know that if you're a kid, you're going to grow up, and you're going to graduate school,
00:38:14.060and before you know it, you'll be graduating school, and none of this will matter anymore.
00:38:18.660And all the kids who are bullies, you're not going to care about their opinions anymore,
00:38:22.020and a lot of them will go on to be total failures in life and all the rest of it, and it just won't matter.
00:38:27.600Now, we know that from our adult perspective looking back, but the kids don't see it that way.
00:38:34.320They don't have the capability to look that far into the future.
00:38:38.300All they see is what's around them, and they see total social alienation, total social rejection.
00:38:45.340And then to make matters worse, and this is the thing that really separates kids of today from kids in the past,
00:38:50.740and the reason why, if you went to school 30 years ago, it's just not comparable.
00:38:57.420So you talking about, well, I dealt with bullying.
00:39:00.440Yeah, but you actually had it a lot easier. You did.
00:39:03.960Because we also have social media and the internet now, which just changes everything.
00:39:07.960And if you didn't grow up with that, if that was not a part of your childhood,
00:39:14.280then you just simply can't even relate to what the kids today are experiencing.
00:39:17.960Because it's completely changed the world.
00:39:20.460It's changed what it means to be a child.
00:39:23.940And when it comes to bullying, what it means is that these kids can never really escape it,
00:39:31.060because they leave the school environment, but this kind of peer culture follows them
00:39:40.860because it stays on the internet and social media and the phone and everyone.
00:39:44.820So it's like they're walking around now constantly in this sort of fog,
00:39:50.740which means that that alienation and rejection that they're experiencing in school now goes beyond school,
00:39:59.320because now it bleeds over into the internet and it follows them everywhere.
00:40:06.760And that's how you end up with children who do horrific and drastic things
00:40:12.880that they don't understand what they're doing, obviously.