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- May 24, 2024
Ep. 1375 - How The Trump Trial Has Backfired Spectacularly On The Democrats
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, we haven't talked much about the Trump trial in New York,
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mostly because the whole thing is a ridiculous farce. But at this point,
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it has backfired so magnificently on the Democrats that it's worth taking a few
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moments to review just how bad it's gotten for them. Also, tragedy strikes as media matter
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suffers massive layoffs. Leftists and media declare that Caitlin Clark benefits from
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white privilege in basketball. And a man on Wheel of Fortune last night makes the worst
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mistake in the history of game shows. All of that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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Well, unlike the national news media, I have not spent a lot of time talking about the day-to-day
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happenings in the Donald Trump criminal trial in New York. And there's a few reasons for that. First
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of all, everybody, regardless of politics, already understands that the trial is a farce. It's a
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criminal proceeding over an alleged bookkeeping error that was supposedly made many years ago,
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which harmed no one. The idea that the leading presidential candidate should be imprisoned on
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this basis, even if these charges were somehow proven in court beyond a reasonable doubt,
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is laughable. In the third world, they at least invent plausible-sounding charges before they
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throw political dissidents and opposition leaders in jail. But in this case, we're left with falsifying
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business records in the first degree. I mean, it sounds like something Michael Scott would accuse
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one of his employees of doing. It's just a laughable on his face. The other problem with going into
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any great detail about this case is that it risks legitimizing the proceedings.
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This is why CNN has panels of 25 guests every night breaking down all the testimony and excruciating
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detail. They want people to think of this trial as serious and fair, something worth analyzing at
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a technical level. But it's not. And there's no reason whatsoever to accept the premise that this
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proceeding is anything more than a show trial brought by a partisan prosecutor in one of the
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most partisan jurisdictions in the country before a clearly unfavorable judge. But today, I'm going to
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make an exception to my general approach to this trial. I'm going to talk about the trial because at this
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stage, it's important to highlight what an unmitigated disaster it's been for the Democratic
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Party with less than six months to go until the election. It's actually comical, as you'll see in
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a second. Now, at a minimum, from a purely political perspective, this trial and the decision to make
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this case the first Trump prosecution has backfired so spectacularly that it's been a clear net positive
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for Trump and his campaign. That's why Donald Trump was able to hold a massive rally in the Bronx last
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night, not exactly a traditionally pro-Trump part of town. And right now, it's all but certain that
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this is the only trial, criminal trial, that Trump will face before the election. So there's no real
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hope for Democrats to salvage their strategy of using lawfare to swing the vote. The collapse of the
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prosecution's case was sealed with the testimony of their star witness, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.
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It was always clear, as even the most partisan CNN panelists have admitted, that without Cohen,
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there's no case. He's the one claiming that Trump ordered him to pay hush money to a porn star to
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protect Trump's campaign, that Trump also tried to reimburse him through fake invoices for legal
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services. There are no cameras allowed in the courtroom because in New York, judges do everything they can
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to imprison presidential candidates in secret. But fortunately, we do have transcripts of the
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proceedings, and a handful of YouTube channels have conducted dramatic readings of Cohen's
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cross-examination by Trump's defense team. And one of those channels is called Good Logic.
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It's run by a lawyer, and it's known for its legal analysis. So they're the perfect channel for the
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job. And they understand how absurd Cohen's testimony is. So they have a hard time keeping a
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straight face. I'll go in chronological order throughout the testimony so that you can get a
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sense of how things escalated, or rather, spiraled out of control for the prosecution.
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And I'll start with Michael Cohen claiming that Trump's team had secretly reimbursed him in part
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for the hush money payment. And for context, Michael Cohen had previously testified that he
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made around $420,000 a year from the Trump organization. That was his consistent pay year
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after year. But in this testimony, Cohen attempts to claim that one year, his $420,000 salary was
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actually a partial reimbursement for the hush money payment. Watch.
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And I believe your testimony is that the way that the $35,000 a month, the way that that number
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was kind of developed was $130,000 for the payment to Ms. Daniels, right?
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Correct.
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$50,000 from the Red Finch polling situation.
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Yes, sir.
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That's $180,000, right?
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Correct.
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And then your testimony is that Mr. Weisselberg said, let's gross that up and double it,
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which brings you to $360,000.
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One second, I need to answer with a straight face.
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That's correct.
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Yeah, they just voluntarily said, they voluntarily said, let's just double how much money we're
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going to give you. Let's just do that.
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That's correct. That's exactly what he said. I didn't have a gun to him or anything. And
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he voluntarily just said, I didn't even suggest it. He just threw it at me. Yeah, yeah. Why
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don't we just double that?
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That's what happened in every business deal.
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He paid $180,000. We're going to give you back $360,000 because that's how our business
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operates. That's correct.
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And then Mr. Weisselberg said that you were getting another $60,000 bonus.
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Why not? Yes, sir.
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So it's $360,000 because we're doubling the $180,000 and then tacking on another $60,000.
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Now, the case is not clear. Everything after the reenactor started laughing wasn't the actual
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testimony. They couldn't even get through the transcript because the claim they were reading
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was too absurd. Cohen's saying that the Trump organization didn't pay him $420,000 because
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that's what they always pay him. Instead, Cohen is claiming that during that particular year,
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the Trump team paid him $420,000 because they were giving him the hush money loan payment
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and then doubling it and then adding a bonus because they were feeling generous, I guess.
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In other words, Cohen is claiming that this secret arrangement, which allegedly involves
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funneling a lot of money to a porn star and then reimbursing Cohen, just so happens to add
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up to Cohen receiving the same pay he would normally receive anyway. In order to sell a story
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like that to the jury, a story that doesn't make a lot of sense, you need to have a very
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trustworthy, unimpeachable witness. But in the next few minutes, Cohen made it clear that he's
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not only untrustworthy, he's also done something far worse than anything Donald Trump is accused
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of doing. Watch.
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You never gave the $30,000 that was owed to the guy that owned Red Finch, did you?
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No, no, no, sir.
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So you stole from the Trump organization, right?
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Oh, yeah. Yes, sir.
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Did you ever have to plead guilty to larceny?
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Oh, no, sir.
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Have you paid back the Trump organization the money that you stole from them?
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No, sir.
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So this is the prosecution's star witness admitting on the stand to willfully stealing
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tens of thousands of dollars from his employer and not paying it back.
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By any measure, that's a lot more serious than falsifying a business record, allegedly.
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But Newark prosecutors never had any interest in investigating Michael Cohen for that and
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said they gave him immunity to testify.
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That wasn't because Michael Cohen had any kind of credibility prior to this trial.
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Even before he admitted on the stand to stealing from his employer, Cohen previously lied to
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both Congress and the Justice Department.
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Additionally, Cohen had told numerous reporters in recorded calls on the record that Trump had
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nothing to do with the hush money payment.
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And he admitted that during this cross-examination as well.
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Watch.
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You and Mr. Albstein went to visit Mr. Croman, who's in jail here in New York City.
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Yes, sir.
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And this is around the time or right after the time that the story of you making the payment
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had been released, right?
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I'm sorry.
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One more time, please.
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When you went to visit him in jail, it was right after the story had been leaked out that
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you made the payment to Stormy Daniels, correct?
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Yes, sir.
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And do you remember saying that both of them, insisting to both of them that President Trump
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knew nothing about it?
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I don't recall specifically saying that, but it would have been what I would have said at
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that time.
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Yes, sir.
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You spoke to, again, we talked about it a lot, but you spoke to Ms. Haberman about it
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and told her that President Trump didn't know about it, right?
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Yes, sir.
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And you also, and you said that on the record, right?
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Yes, sir.
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You recorded conversations with multiple reporters where you told them you didn't
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know, correct?
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No, sir.
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Do you recall a conversation with a reporter named Suzanne Kianpour with the BBC?
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Yes, sir.
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Do you recall recording a long conversation with her in early February about the payment?
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Yes, sir.
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And do you recall telling her that there is no way you had told President Trump about
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it at the time?
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Do you remember telling her that?
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Sounds correct, yes.
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So these are conversations that Cohen recorded, sometimes secretly, in which he affirmed again
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and again that Trump had nothing to do with these payments.
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And Cohen apparently didn't only tell that story to reporters.
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A defense witness, Robert Costello, also testified that Cohen told him in 2018 that Trump, quote
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unquote, knew nothing about the $130,000 payment that he made to Stormy Daniels.
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Throughout the trial, Trump's defense team outlined why Cohen has a motive to change his story
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and lie about Donald Trump.
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One of the main reasons is that he was apparently upset that Trump didn't give him a job in the
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White House.
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Getting left on the sidelines like this seems to have caused some problems in the relationship.
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Earlier in the trial, Trump's lawyers played audio tapes of Cohen saying that the trial,
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quote, fills me with delight, and that he felt, quote, giddy with hope and laughter imagining
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both Trump and his family in prison.
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Because in court, in front of the jury, Cohen essentially said the same thing.
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He admitted on cross-examination to saying that he wanted revenge against Donald Trump.
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Now, you also testified on Thursday that you were mad at President Trump.
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You blamed him, at least in part, for what happened to you, correct?
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That's correct.
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You said, and we played it for the jury, that revenge against President Trump is a dish that is...
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Served best cold.
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Best served cold, correct?
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Correct.
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And you meant it when you said it then, correct?
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You meant it when you said it then.
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Yes, sir.
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And you meant it when you said it just now.
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Yes, sir.
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So again, this is the man that the prosecution's case depends on.
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Without his testimony, they have no chance of convicting Donald Trump,
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even if they manage to prove the existence of falsified records.
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Cohen's testimony is the link between Trump and those records,
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and there's no reason to believe anything Cohen says.
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In a sane jurisdiction, the judge would have issued a directed verdict by now.
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The case would be dismissed.
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The prosecutor would be sanctioned for attempting to imprison the leading candidate for president
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on the basis of testimony from a witness who's clearly been discredited.
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Instead, a witness who is, by his own testimony, a liar, a thief, who's out for revenge.
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But it's not clear what will happen next, because this case is being tried in New York with a
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clearly pro-prosecution judge, an electorate that overwhelmingly supported Joe Biden in the
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last election.
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Still, there are signs that there is some political diversity on the jury.
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During jury selection, eight jurors said that they read the New York Times,
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while one juror said that he gets his news from Truth Social.
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In a political show trial like this, that's as good a sign as any that
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there might be a hung jury here, because it's hard to imagine a Truth Social user voting to
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convict Donald Trump.
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At the same time, the judge is doing everything he can to encourage the jury to convict.
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Under New York law, in order to convict Donald Trump of felony falsification of business records,
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the jury needs to unanimously agree that Trump falsified documents in order to conceal a separate
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crime. But the judge recently ruled that the jury doesn't need to unanimously agree about what
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the separate crime is. And the prosecution hasn't suggested anything. As far as I can tell,
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it seems like the idea is to suggest that Trump was trying to conceal some kind of campaign finance
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violation, which is a notoriously confusing area of law. And that's why the defense wanted to put a
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campaign finance law expert on the stand, but the judge prevented the defense from doing that.
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Instead, the judge allowed Michael Cohen to strongly imply that Trump had violated campaign finance
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law without explaining how. This was a predictable problem from the moment New York prosecutors
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unveiled their criminal complaint against Trump, which listed 34 felony counts, all of them saying
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that Trump had concealed some other crime. But the complaint never mentioned what the other crime
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was. Everyone assumed the prosecution would eventually get around to explaining that part.
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Well, they just rested their case. And still, they have no idea what the other crime is. It has not
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been explained, so the jury doesn't have to figure it out. For all the talk about how Donald Trump is a
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threat to the rule of law and democracy, this trial is easily the single most lawless, vindictive,
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and undemocratic prosecution that's been brought in modern history. They're trying to imprison the man who
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could very well be the next president on the basis of a crime they can't even define based on the
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testimony of a witness who admits he's a liar who's out for revenge. If there's any upside, it's that
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prosecutors in New York have managed to thoroughly discredit not only themselves, but every other effort
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to imprison Donald Trump. So thanks to Alvin Bragg, now everyone can see these prosecutions
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for what they are. Now let's get to our five headlines.
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That's tnusa.com slash Walsh. All right, we begin with some tragic news today. Here's the report from
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Mediaites. Media Matters for America laid off over a dozen staffers on Thursday as former employees took
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to X to announce they were out of a job. Catherine Abugazala, also known as Cat Abu, posted,
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bad news. I've been laid off from Media Matters along with a dozen colleagues. There's a reason
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far-right billionaires attack Media Matters with armies of lawyers. They know how effective our work
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is, and it terrifies them. Parentheses, him. Abu appeared to be referring to Elon Musk, who filed a
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defamation suit against the progressive media watchdog last November over a report claiming that major
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corporate ads on X were being shown alongside white nationalist content. Media Matters President
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Angelo Carusone hit back at Musk's threat of a suit at the time, saying Elon Musk has spent the
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last few days making meritless legal threats, elevating bizarre conspiracy theories, and lobbing
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vicious personal attacks against his enemies online, even if he does not follow through with
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this threat to sue the volatility of actions reinforced by major brands are rightly skittish
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of partnering with X. So they're blaming Elon Musk for the fact that these layoffs are happening,
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even though of course they're the ones who defamed him, with what was in fact a false story.
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And then there's a bunch of other Media Matters employees who were tweeting about how they lost
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their jobs. So massive layoffs. Lots of conservatives are celebrating the layoffs. And if you can believe
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it, there are conservatives that are saying really uncharitable things about this story.
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Um, they're even saying that they're happy that these employees were laid off. There are people
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saying that they're saying that Media Matters employees are the worst people on earth and
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deserve to be unemployed. And they hope that they can never find another job. I mean, there are people
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saying that, you know, they're saying that Media Matters only ever tries to cancel people and get
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people fired. That's their whole mission in life. And so they richly deserve for the same thing to
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happen to them. That's what's being saying, being said. Uh, I mean, I've heard, I've heard just
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terrible things. I've heard them. I've heard people say that, um, you know, Media Matters is nothing
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more than a collection of, of utterly useless scumbags who contribute nothing of value to society.
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Um, I've heard that. Someone said to me that Media Matters is basically the human equivalent of like a
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colony of termites. You know, they're saying that Media Matters is, uh, they're, they're the, the, uh,
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the tapeworms in the intestines of, of society. I've heard these things. People have said these
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things. I've heard them. And I'm not saying this because I'd be dehumanizing language. I'm not saying
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it. I'm telling you what these people have said. Uh, I mean, they're saying that Media Matters,
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you know, uh, that, that Media Matters employees, I've heard someone say that Media Matters employees,
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they even had a cameo in the first Jurassic Park movie as that giant pile of dinosaurs.
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And, um, again, this is what people have been saying. And, you know, I think they're terrible
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things. They're terrible things to say. They're, they're, they're popping champagne and celebrating
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the demise of Media Matters and the fact that all these people have lost their jobs.
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I'm not saying any of this because I'll tell you why I'm horrified by it and, and shame on all the
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people that are saying these terrible things. I would never celebrate this kind of misfortune being
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visited upon Media Matters. How could I, how could I celebrate the decimation of my own PR department?
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I mean, Media Matters has done so much work. Um, I'll say thanklessly, they've done so much
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thankless unpaid work on my behalf. And I feel ashamed of that, that I have never, uh, I have
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thanked them, but I've never, I've never paid them a dime for any of this. And yet they promote me and
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they promote my work. Um, there's no organization on earth that's been more dedicated to marketing me
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and helping to grow my brand. They've done more than, than anyone for, for me. They really have.
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Um, I owe them a huge debt of gratitude and I'm worried now that with the organization falling
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apart, that they won't be around to promote me anymore. And, and so that's, that's a fear that I
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have. I mean, just to give you an idea of how dedicated they've been and how good they are at
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marketing me. I just went back just to review their most recent headlines about me.
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So here are some of the headlines just from the last couple of weeks. Matt Walsh rants against
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Native American reservations. You got conquered. Okay. It happens. Daily Wire host defends using
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anti-black racial slur in a friendly way. Did I, did I say that? Um, Matt Walsh says a lot of
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undocumented, documented immigrants are whiny little babies. Matt Walsh should white men just
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build, maintain, and run their own airport. I'd be quite happy to use that airport personally.
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I think most people would actually, uh, Matt Walsh, the people that are destroying the planet,
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the worst offenders of destroying the planet are non-whites. Matt Walsh calls for arming teachers
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in schools saying there's no magic button to prevent mass shootings in schools.
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In response to Caitlin Clark contract controversy, Daily Wire host says the WNBA shouldn't exist and
00:21:00.160
nobody watches it. So these are just some of the most recent headlines. And at, you know,
00:21:06.360
you could see how adept media matters is at highlighting my best moments and my best points.
00:21:12.880
They're very good at it. They've got a real ear for this sort of thing. And, you know,
00:21:17.540
they've been following my work for so, for so long, they've been working so hard to promote me
00:21:20.740
that, um, I don't think anyone could ever truly replace them. And now what's going to happen?
00:21:27.860
I mean, I mean, what's going to happen to me is what I'm saying.
00:21:31.240
Like the real question here is whether these layoffs are going to mean fewer headlines about me.
00:21:38.820
That's what I'm worried about. And I think more people should be worried about it. And frankly,
00:21:43.840
even though I'm, I'm gutted by this news and, and, uh, I feel very sorry for the media matters
00:21:48.620
employees who lost their job. I will say I was a little taken aback by all of the former media
00:21:53.280
matters employees who've been tweeting about getting laid off and making it all about them.
00:21:59.100
And none of them, not a single one have offered me any condolences or acknowledged how difficult
00:22:06.060
this is for me. Can you believe I haven't even gotten a personal message from any of them
00:22:10.300
saying, Hey Matt, you know, we got, we lost 12 employees. There might be fewer, there might be a
00:22:16.580
little bit less, uh, there might be fewer headlines about you and, and, and really, really sorry about
00:22:21.440
that. You know, I hope that you'll be okay. What, what can I do for you? What can I do to make you
00:22:26.140
feel better about this? No, no one has said that to me at media matters now. Sure. I'm still earning a
00:22:31.560
paycheck and these people are now unemployed and will have trouble finding new jobs because they have
00:22:36.540
no skills or professional achievements to speak of. But again, I'm the one facing the harrowing
00:22:43.860
prospect of having fewer headlines written about me in the future. And that is very difficult.
00:22:51.480
That that's what I'm dealing with. Okay. So if you're in media matters and you lost your job today
00:22:56.560
and you're waking up without a job, think about, think about what I'm going through. All right.
00:23:01.480
All right. New York post reports the view co-host Sonny Hostin argued that white privilege and pretty
00:23:08.100
privilege played a role in Indiana fever star Caitlin Clark's popularity during the ABC talk show
00:23:13.400
on Wednesday. The co-hosts of the view were discussing former ESPN host Jamil Hill Hills argument that Clark
00:23:19.540
owed much of her popularity to her race and sexuality. Hostin said earlier in the discussion that she had no
00:23:24.620
issue with Clark bringing the WNBA some much needed attention. But it seems that she in fact does.
00:23:31.840
So let's let's go ahead and watch the video. You know, I've been a basketball fan since I can
00:23:37.020
remember. I played basketball with my dad in Harlem when I was five years old. I remember loving the game
00:23:42.980
and the game not necessarily loving women back, right? At all. At all. And the WNBA started in 1996.
00:23:50.860
First games played in 1997. It's 2024. And we're just really now talking about it. And so if Caitlin
00:23:59.920
Clark is the vehicle that will bring this sport that I have loved so much and so long to little
00:24:08.080
five-year-old girls playing in Harlem, I say yes, bravo. I have no problem with that.
00:24:13.540
Okay, let's pause there just for a moment because she says that women loved the game,
00:24:17.000
but the game didn't love women back. Now I honest to God have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
00:24:23.260
How is a game supposed to love you? What do you mean the game doesn't love you?
00:24:30.320
That is, I mean, no offense, but that's the most womanly complaint about sports that you could
00:24:36.260
possibly have. I mean, that's next she's going to start nagging the game for not spending enough
00:24:41.520
time with her and, you know, not being more emotionally honest with her. No, it's not that
00:24:46.840
the game didn't love women. It's the other way, of course. Not many women have loved the game.
00:24:52.800
Okay, that's the whole issue here, which isn't really an issue. It doesn't need to be an issue.
00:24:57.260
Like, I don't consider it a problem. If women don't like basketball for the most part,
00:25:00.780
fine, who cares? But that's the case. Only a very small percentage of women care about basketball.
00:25:06.580
And by the way, most of the women who do care about basketball still just want to watch the NBA
00:25:12.880
because the NBA is more interesting and it's more exciting because the players are approximately
00:25:18.380
5 billion percent better than the WNBA players. So that's what's going on here. That's the entire
00:25:25.520
issue. But let's continue with this very insightful analysis here.
00:25:32.840
With that being said, I do think that there is a thing called pretty privilege. There is a thing
00:25:41.440
called white privilege. There is a thing called tall privilege. And we have to acknowledge that. And
00:25:47.600
so part of it is about race, because if you think about the Brittany Griners of the world,
00:25:54.140
you know, why did she have to go to play in Russia? Because they wouldn't pay her.
00:25:58.520
Because they wouldn't pay her. Not because she was black, but because they didn't believe in the WNBA.
00:26:04.440
This is part of my point. So now, you know, Caitlin Clark is bringing this money,
00:26:11.160
these sponsorships, we hope, into the league and other players will benefit from it. But I do think
00:26:17.580
that she is more relatable to more people because she's white, because she's attractive. And
00:26:23.620
unfortunately, there still is that stigma of against the LGBTQ plus community. 70% of the WNBA
00:26:30.740
is black. A third of the players are in the LGBTQ plus community.
00:26:36.340
Okay, so this is where we are now. She's claiming that Caitlin Clark has white privilege
00:26:41.820
in basketball. Okay, she's claiming that people haven't wanted to watch basketball because there
00:26:50.760
are too many black people. Now, of course, the problem with this theory is the existence of almost
00:26:57.120
every professional sport in the country, because most of them have a wildly disproportionate number
00:27:02.440
of non-white people. And yet, the big ones are still wildly successful. So yes, the WNBA has
00:27:10.440
gotten terrible ratings and sold like five tickets total in the 25 years of its existence. And Sonny
00:27:17.600
says that's because there are so many black people in it, I guess, and America's racist. Except that
00:27:21.800
the NBA, during that time, has done extremely well. And it has the same amount, if not more,
00:27:28.500
black people. So how do you explain that? How do you explain why the NBA does better than the WNBA?
00:27:35.820
How does that fit into your racial picture here? If we're at the point where you're somehow finding
00:27:43.360
anti-black racism in basketball, of all places, then we've really reached the end of the race hustle.
00:27:51.520
We have reached its bottom. Now, I know that we can't actually reach the end. It will continue
00:27:58.360
no matter what, untethered from reality. But still, this should be the end. When you find a way to
00:28:04.760
make basketball racist against black people, then there's nothing more to be said. It's just, you
00:28:09.560
can't, that's it. There's nothing to discuss or debate anymore. Now, with all that said, I also have
00:28:19.820
to echo something that's, I think it was Jesse Kelly said this on Twitter. It's an important point,
00:28:26.220
which is that, okay, fine. What if white people are now, some anyway, are now more interested in
00:28:35.320
women's basketball because it has a white star? Fine. So what? Why is that a problem?
00:28:44.000
I don't even necessarily buy this argument, but, and I certainly don't buy the privilege, the way,
00:28:49.300
you know, framing it as privilege is insane. But let's go with it for a minute. And then the next
00:28:56.280
question is, who cares? Like every other race is allowed to have more interest in something when
00:29:02.140
they see themselves, quote unquote, represented. And we take that for granted. We celebrate it.
00:29:08.100
You know, the fact that Tiger Woods got more black people interested in golf, for instance,
00:29:12.660
nobody sees that as a negative. Nobody's talked about how problematic that is. There's never been
00:29:18.780
one conversation anywhere of people saying, well, I don't know. This is, this is, is there black
00:29:25.500
privilege in golf because of Tiger Woods? Like that's basically, because it's the exact opposite,
00:29:34.940
right? But this, that's basically, it's, it's, it's as absurd claiming that Caitlin Clark has white
00:29:39.860
privilege in basketball is like saying that Tiger Woods had black privilege in golf.
00:29:47.460
But no one ever did say that. And no one ever found anything problematic about a black person
00:29:53.780
saying that, you know, they became interested in golf because of Tiger Woods. Nobody has a problem
00:29:58.320
with that. Yet if a white person uses the same logic, has the same motivation for now becoming
00:30:05.100
interested in women's basketball. It's a problem. Why? Why should it be? But you have to actually
00:30:13.320
explain that. And you can't, which is why we can't accept that premise. So, okay, it might be true
00:30:20.260
that there is increased interest in Caitlin Clark because she's white in part. That's not white
00:30:28.180
privilege. But that might be true in the same way that there was increased interest in Tiger Woods.
00:30:40.480
And that's because it's unusual for a white woman in particular to be good at basketball.
00:30:46.520
It's an un, or certainly to be that good in comparison to the other women in the WNBA.
00:30:51.960
Anyway, it's an unusual thing. It's unusual. So unusual things are stories. Unusual things are
00:31:00.240
stories more than normal things are stories. When we see something that is the same thing we've seen
00:31:05.840
a million times, it's not much of a story, which is why there was never any story about,
00:31:10.900
can you believe this white guy is really good at golf? No one ever said that. There are plenty of
00:31:14.220
white people that have been very good at it, but the fact that he's white was never,
00:31:16.760
it's not a story because it's not unusual. It's normal. But when you have an unusual thing,
00:31:22.840
it becomes a story. Who cares? And if there are white women out there who now care more about
00:31:30.000
women's basketball because of Caitlin Clark, okay. Isn't that the whole point of representation?
00:31:38.000
Isn't that what we've been told relentlessly for years now? Haven't we been told that people need to
00:31:43.360
see themselves represented in all of these different spaces? And I don't buy that. I don't
00:31:48.840
think representation is, it's fine. It's not something to pursue for its own sake. I don't
00:31:54.440
think we need to look at an institution or a company or a sport or a genre of entertainment or whatever
00:32:02.400
and say, well, there's not enough of this race and we need that race represented. So let's,
00:32:06.780
we don't need to do that. But if it just so happens that someone of a certain race ends up in a
00:32:11.280
certain field where it's uncommon for them to be there, fine. And that's just an important point
00:32:16.120
because I think that most people will sort of take issue factually with some of the things that
00:32:24.020
somebody like this person on The View said, the white privilege stuff, like that's kind of the
00:32:29.700
low hanging fruit. It's easy to dispute that because it's so ridiculous, but there won't be as
00:32:37.020
many people who go to the next part and say, okay, well, even if you're right, who cares?
00:32:42.320
Like, why is that an issue? But it's important for us to do that.
00:32:48.200
We've been debating playing this. It's not exactly newsworthy.
00:32:54.880
Well, it is newsworthy. It's, you know what? Nevermind. It's newsworthy. It is,
00:32:58.580
it is newsworthy because it's the worst, it's the worst wrong answer in the history of Wheel of
00:33:04.940
Fortune. Okay. This is, it's going viral today. And, you know, I'll be honest, I see these kinds
00:33:11.600
of like game show, you know, mess up videos sometimes. And these bloopers, game show blooper
00:33:21.460
reels that you see on social media all the time. And usually they're sold as, oh, this is the dumbest
00:33:27.580
thing anyone's ever said. And like, you watch it and you're like, oh, it's pretty dumb, but it wasn't
00:33:30.360
that bad. But what people are saying is that this is the worst mistake anyone's ever made in the
00:33:36.280
history of Wheel of Fortune. And in this case, I think it actually lives up to the billing.
00:33:39.880
It's truly the worst wrong answer. It probably not just in Wheel of Fortune history, but
00:33:44.140
in game show history, period. I think it lives up to that. I really do. I don't think I'm overselling
00:33:50.320
this thing here. If you haven't seen it, you'll see why in a second. Let's play this. This is from
00:33:57.020
Wheel of Fortune, I think, last Thursday night. This is what happened. Watch.
00:34:00.940
Our first toss up is worth $1,000. Category is phrase and off we go.
00:34:14.900
Tavares, right in the butt.
00:34:17.200
What?
00:34:19.520
No.
00:34:24.280
Blake.
00:34:25.140
This is the best.
00:34:26.160
Yeah, that's it, I think. Yeah.
00:34:28.640
Much better answer.
00:34:31.640
Blake gets $1,000.
00:34:39.160
I mean, when you get that from your fellow, when you get a what? From your fellow contestants,
00:34:45.200
you know you're screwed up. That doesn't usually happen. And so that, yeah, that's, how do you
00:34:53.160
recover? I don't, now I want to go back and watch the whole episode.
00:34:56.520
How does that guy, how do you recover? I think at that point you have to just put the little
00:35:01.800
clicker thing down and leave. You got to say, all right, guys, that's it for me tonight. I'm
00:35:06.600
heading out. That's, what am I going to do now? I can't do anything else.
00:35:09.920
And you know, the other thing too is that they, I mean, we can't go into a lot of detail analyzing this,
00:35:20.240
but there were not enough letters to spell right, R-I-G-H-T. So it would have to be like R-I-T-E, R-I-T,
00:35:31.900
that kind of right. And so you put that together and it, it, it takes on even weirder connotations
00:35:39.400
that I can't, well, we don't need to think much about it. In any case, this does bring up
00:35:47.920
an important point as I desperately grasped for some reason to justify having played that for you.
00:35:56.000
But I think it does bring up an important point when I think of what it is. And you know, but I've said
00:36:03.800
this before. I like Wheel of Fortune. I like Jeopardy. I like game shows in general. It's just not worth it
00:36:11.920
these days. It's not worth it to, to go on a game show these days. I wouldn't do it. I don't care how much
00:36:21.980
money is at stake. I wouldn't do it because there, there, there's, there might be money at stake,
00:36:26.280
but there's too much else at stake these days. You can't do it now. Cause think about it back in
00:36:31.740
the old days, pre-internet, pre-social media, back then it was different. You could, you know, you could
00:36:38.280
go on Wheel of Fortune and you could give a wildly wrong answer about something. And, and then,
00:36:48.580
and that's it. People might see it if they're watching, happen to be watching the show that,
00:36:52.660
that evening, but that's it. That's, there, there isn't, there wouldn't be any place for that moment
00:36:59.320
to live forever in infamy. You know, there, there would be no way if someone in 1992 was watching
00:37:06.620
Wheel of Fortune and they saw that, they'd laugh hysterically. Maybe they'd tell their friends about
00:37:12.260
it. Maybe if they had the VHS go and they would record it. But other than that, there's no place
00:37:19.480
for them to go and say, Hey guys, did you all see this? If you guys weren't watching Wheel of Fortune
00:37:23.320
last night, check it out. Here is this moment of this guy humiliating himself. There wasn't any way
00:37:27.280
to do that. And so you, you could probably horrifically embarrass yourself and survive.
00:37:34.880
And most of the people that you encounter for the rest of your life will have never seen that
00:37:38.340
moment. Cause it, it happened one time and never again. It may be, you know, reruns or something,
00:37:44.080
but for the most part, there was that one time. Now, now it's immortalized. If you say something
00:37:51.980
really stupid, it's immortalized. It does live forever. There's a place where it can go and it
00:37:59.460
will just be there forever. And now like Bill, think about this. And I don't want to make this guy
00:38:06.120
feel worse about himself than he already does, but I am going to make him feel worse about himself
00:38:11.180
because like billions of people are going to see that over the next several years. Billions
00:38:17.360
are going to see that moment. Um, and so it's just not, it's just not worth it. It's not worth it.
00:38:27.800
There are other ways to make, and on Wheel of Fortune, how much money do you earn anyway?
00:38:31.920
You know, they still, they have, I don't think they've increased their amounts. I don't,
00:38:34.760
I haven't watched Wheel of Fortune recently, but they're not keeping up with inflation.
00:38:38.360
So people are still walking away, winning like you won $12,000. Oh, great. What does that buy you?
00:38:46.180
That's like one night hotel stay holiday in and a dinner at five guys. Well, good. I'm glad that
00:38:52.720
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like a man, not a manifesto. Now let's get to our daily cancellation.
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You might remember that about a year ago, there was a coordinated effort to attack Supreme Court
00:41:16.920
Justice Clarence Thomas for going on vacations with a couple of his wealthy conservative friends.
00:41:21.760
The idea was that Clarence Thomas was being bribed and possibly breaking the law by not publicly
00:41:26.180
disclosing these trips. And therefore, the Supreme Court is illegitimate and Democrats don't have to
00:41:30.180
obey its rulings. That was the idea. They figured that if they can't pack the court, then they can at
00:41:34.400
least discredit the court in the eyes of the public. Now the whole scandal kind of fizzled
00:41:37.900
though after the Daily Wire reported that left-wing judges were doing the same thing.
00:41:41.760
Sonia Sotomayor, for example, made millions of dollars from Random House, but she didn't recuse
00:41:46.020
herself from cases involving the company. And somehow Democrats didn't have any problem with that
00:41:50.460
though, which exposed their whole attack on Clarence Thomas as a politically motivated hit job,
00:41:54.580
which of course is what it always was. Now at the time, it was clear that activists on the left
00:41:59.920
would regroup and come up with another line of attack on the Supreme Court. And last week,
00:42:03.460
they made their move. They launched the single most desperate smear campaign that they possibly
00:42:09.220
could have come up with. It began with a story in the New York Times about an upside down flag outside
00:42:14.200
of the home of Justice Samuel Alito. We mentioned this briefly on the show a few days ago. Here's
00:42:20.280
ABC's stern sounding, no nonsense evening news anchor to explain.
00:42:26.340
We turn next tonight to Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito under fire after an image of the American flag
00:42:32.100
being flown upside down at his home for several days. This is the image of the flag outside his home,
00:42:37.940
the image from the days after the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Tonight, Justice Alito
00:42:42.700
blaming his wife. Here's Terry Moran.
00:42:46.220
Tonight, Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito embroiled in controversy after the New York Times
00:42:51.620
published a photograph showing the American flag outside Alito's house flying upside down.
00:42:57.600
The Times says the picture was taken in January 2021, just days after the January 6th attack on
00:43:03.680
the Capitol. Some Trump supporters that day held aloft upside down American flags as a sign of their
00:43:09.660
rejection of Joe Biden's election. The U.S. flag code says the American flag should never be flown
00:43:15.640
upside down except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger. Alito's neighbor,
00:43:22.420
Aya Carlson's remembers seeing Alito's flag that way in 2021. In my mind, I just said,
00:43:29.640
there's something wrong with the flag. Today, she saw the story in the New York Times.
00:43:36.140
And I said, oh my God, of course that is what it was. It was hanging upside down.
00:43:42.260
Great neighbor, by the way. Good, good, good thing to do to your, uh, to your neighbor to go
00:43:46.960
ratting them out to the media. And that makes a lot of sense. The neighbor saw the flag three years
00:43:53.020
ago, but she couldn't figure out that it was upside down until she saw a picture of the flag
00:43:57.280
in the New York Times. She just knew that something was off about the flag,
00:44:02.120
couldn't recognize that it was upside down. And now she has the answer. Oh, it was upside down.
00:44:07.340
Mystery solved. Now, it's not clear why this woman is speaking to a national news station instead of
00:44:11.480
heading to an optometrist's office. It could be that she sees the entire world upside down,
00:44:16.600
which would obviously inconvenience her life in many other ways. But we really don't know what
00:44:20.520
this woman's issue is because ABC never pushes her to explain her confusion. ABC also doesn't
00:44:25.340
explain why it took three years for somebody to send the photo of the upside down flag to the New
00:44:29.160
York Times. And most notably, ABC doesn't articulate any clear link between the upside down flag and
00:44:35.460
January 6th. At the Wall Street Journal, Kim Strassel went looking for any references to upside down
00:44:41.080
flags and January 6th coverage prior to this Alito report in the New York Times. She searched a large
00:44:47.540
database of news articles and didn't find a single reference. So why are we only learning now that
00:44:53.820
January 6th is connected with upside down flags? And why are news organizations acting like we should
00:44:59.520
have known this all along and that Samuel Alito should have known this? Now, obviously, with all these
00:45:05.580
unanswered questions, this image was never going to sustain a scandal. And on top of that,
00:45:09.440
Alito directly refuted all the allegations. He said his wife put up the flag, not him. And
00:45:13.460
he said it was a response to something his neighbor did, not January 6th. So there was no kill shot
00:45:18.300
here. There was just an old photo of an upside down flag. Fortunately for Democrats who want to
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destroy the Supreme Court, though, there was another shoe to drop. Watch. Now, while that boycott was
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raging last August, according to a search of financial records by legal reporter Chris Geidner,
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Justice Alito sold a chunk of stock in Bud Light's parent company, Anheuser-Busch, and he bought shares,
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of course, on the same day. Kid Rock was out shooting up Bud Light cases and Sam Alito was selling his
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Anheuser-Busch stock. Now, you could say, well, I don't know, maybe just a coincidence if it weren't for
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everything else we know about Sam Alito. So it's not even clear what they're complaining about here
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or what we're supposed to take from this. Apparently, Sam Alito was guilty of not wanting
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to lose money. He sold his Bud Light stock when the company was in a tailspin. He actually sold it
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well after it began its steep decline. So there's clearly no insider trading going on here. And when
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he bought shares, of course, which was doing better, that's why he bought it. Boy, he bought it on the
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same day. I like how they emphasize that. He sold those stocks and bought these on the same day.
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Wow. Thanks for letting us know. We're supposed to conclude, according to the Rachel Maddow
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impersonator guy, that this could be more than a coincidence. Well, yeah, it's not a coincidence at
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all. You're not supposed to, now, I'm no stock market expert, okay? But this is not how investing
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in stocks is supposed to go. You're not supposed to just do things randomly with no reason behind
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it. That's not how it's supposed to work. And it's not how it worked here. There was a clear cause and
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effect. The company was tanking, so he sold the stock. Maybe he didn't think the stock would go
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back up. So you wanted to cut his losses. Maybe he didn't like the company's advertising. Maybe
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it's a bit of both. Who cares? Why should we care exactly? Well, that's never explained. There's no
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conflict of interest that's even claimed here. There is no major Bud Light Supreme Court case that
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Samuel Alito ruled on. He didn't dump the stock right before ruling that Bud Light should be banned
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or whatever. So what's the problem? We're apparently told to fill in the blanks because no one really
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knows. Now, at this point, if you were running the smear campaign, you might consider aborting
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the mission. It's clearly not working out as intended. It's not even making sense.
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But the other day, there was yet another volley in this campaign of unmitigated, flailing
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incoherence when we circled back once again to flag controversies. Only this time, the left
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tried to find something sinister in the fact that Alito's beach house had a flag that people
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have been flying since the Revolutionary War. Watch. The developing headline tonight involving
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Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, just days after images emerged showing an upside-down American flag
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flying outside his home for several days after January 6th. Tonight, the new report on a second
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flag, this time at his beach house. Here's our Chief Justice Correspondent, Pierre Thomas, now.
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Just days after the nation saw an image of an upside-down flag outside of the home of Supreme
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Court Justice Samuel Alito in the days after January 6th, a symbol of the Stop the Steal movement,
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a new photo tonight raising yet more questions. The New York Times publishing images of a pine tree
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flag outside of Alito's New Jersey beach home last summer with the words, appeal to heaven. Like the
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upside-down flag, the pine tree flag was carried by some pro-Trump supporters on January 6th as the
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Capitol was attacked. Tonight, it's unclear who allegedly placed the flag and what
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kind of statement was being made. The flag, which dates back to the Revolutionary War, has also been
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associated with Christian nationalism.
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I love the headline, Second Alito Flag Incident.
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Because you can, you know, this is what you could do. You take any innocuous, take something totally innocuous
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and just call it an incident. And then when it happens again, there's a second one.
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So they could say like, the second Alito shoe incident. Yes, on Monday, Samuel Alito was found
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wearing shoes. And on Tuesday, he wore shoes again. Coincidence?
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So this time around, the flag is right side up, but it's still a problem because they're saying the
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1775 pine tree flag was flown by some January 6th protesters. So Alito is an insurrectionist and needs
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to be removed from the court. Never mind the fact that the pine tree flag is displayed right now in
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the Capitol outside the Speaker of the House's office. Never mind that it was flown by a frigates commissioned
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by George Washington. Never mind that it's been flown by thousands of people for centuries.
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None of that matters because the January 6th protesters waived it. Therefore, it's been
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helplessly corrupted. So follow this logic to its conclusion. And what you'll find is that we have
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to ban pretty much everything else that the insurrectionists, quote unquote, insurrectionists,
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waived or possessed, including the current American flag. That's obviously an insurrectionist symbol
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because there were a lot of those in the crowd that day. Any Supreme Court justice with an American
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flag outside of his or her home should be disqualified immediately. That's the new rule, I guess.
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So what you have to do before you wave any flag, you need to go and look, scour the footage from
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January 6th and take note of every type of flag that was present at that event. And then you can
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never fly that flag again. Now, it appears that that would be the current position of dozens of
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House Democrats. As the Washington Post reported this week, quote, nearly 50 House Democrats called
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on Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito to recuse himself from January 6th related cases on Tuesday.
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The lawmakers asked Alito to decline to participate in deciding a pair of major cases the Supreme Court
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is slated to rule on in the coming weeks, whether Trump may be criminally prosecuted for his efforts
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to remain in office after losing the 2020 election, and whether the Justice Department can use an
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obstruction charge to prosecute more than 300 January 6th rioters. One of the leading congressmen
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who organized that letter is Hank Johnson, who famously warned that Guam could tip over and capsize
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because too many military personnel were on the island. So, you know, we're dealing with some
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intellectual heavy hitters here. Unfortunately for Democrats, in typical Hank Johnson
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fashion, that letter is not exactly subtle. It gives the game away. The objective of this current
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smear campaign is to undermine and intimidate the Supreme Court ahead of rulings that might help
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Donald Trump. They want to do everything they can to ensure that Trump isn't elected, so they're
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digging three-year-old photos up and spreading bizarre, incoherent lies and conspiracy theories
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about flags and Bud Light stock. Now, I began the show with a discussion of the Donald Trump trial
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and how obviously farcical it is. And I wanted to end with the attacks on Samuel Alito because
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they're similar in one very important way, which is that they're both absurd and totally self-discrediting.
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Yes, they're trying to imprison the leading presidential candidate because of an invented
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crime. And yes, they're trying to discredit the Supreme Court because of a couple of flags that
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they don't even understand. To be sure, those are not signs of a functioning or healthy society,
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we can say. Now, at the same time, it's also a very good sign that these activists and politicians
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are so completely, unbelievably clumsy and stupid. They're not anywhere near smart enough to pull off
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the coup that they're attempting. They've made that very clear. And as we head into the Memorial Day
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weekend, with less than six months until the election, that is some much-needed good news to
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celebrate. And that's why the Samuel Alito flag truthers and everybody else who's pretending to be
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terrified of flags that they don't remotely understand are all today canceled. That'll do
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it for the show today and this week. Have a great weekend. Talk to you on Tuesday. Godspeed.
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