The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1384 - Hunter Biden Was Convicted Today, But Not For The Reasons The Media Claims

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Hunter Biden has been found guilty in federal court. This is

00:00:03.780 supposed to be evidence that Joe Biden is playing it fair, but it actually shows the opposite. I'll

00:00:07.720 explain. Also, new polls show that a majority of Americans favor mass deportations of illegal

00:00:12.100 immigrants. A manager at Big Lots is fired after committing the sin of trying to stop somebody from

00:00:16.340 stealing. A Hollywood actor takes out a poorly written full-page ad calling on award voters to

00:00:21.040 give awards to non-whites. And the desperate campaign to find some sort of scandal for Justice

00:00:26.020 Samuel Alito continues, and it is more desperate than ever. All of that and more today on the Matt

00:00:30.880 Wall Show.

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00:01:59.340 Today, a federal jury in Wilmington, Delaware found that the president's son, Hunter Biden,

00:02:03.080 violated the law when he lied about his drug use on a firearms form to obtain a revolver,

00:02:08.120 speed loader, and ammunition from a gun store in October of 2018. Now, it was not an especially close

00:02:14.340 case. Evidence showed, among many other things, that Biden was texting his drug dealer the same day he

00:02:18.540 bought the gun. Never a smart move. But the upshot is that Hunter Biden becomes the first son of a

00:02:23.440 United States president to become a felon in the history of the country. So we're making a lot of

00:02:27.300 this kind of history recently. And for much of the national news media, Hunter Biden's trial and

00:02:31.840 conviction is proof that the justice system is fair and impartial. In fact, it makes Joe Biden look good

00:02:39.500 that his son just got convicted of felonies. That's kind of the spin here. And therefore, we should

00:02:44.940 conclude that Donald Trump's prosecutions are legitimate. It's fine to imprison the leading

00:02:49.440 presidential frontrunner on a novel and untested legal theory, they say, because the current

00:02:54.520 president's son could potentially go to jail for crimes he obviously committed. A columnist for

00:02:58.960 the Daily Beast, for example, wrote that, quote, Hunter Biden's trial shows that Trump's principal

00:03:02.700 assertion that he's being unfairly targeted by Joe Biden doesn't hold water. CNN, meanwhile,

00:03:08.140 reported that, quote, Hunter Biden's trial shows America's justice system isn't so rigged after all.

00:03:13.980 In order to come to a conclusion like this, you have to ignore the circumstances of how this trial

00:03:19.400 came about, as well as the many crimes that Hunter Biden has not been charged with, and thanks to the

00:03:25.000 DOJ, will never be charged with. Under Joe Biden, the federal government very simply did not want to

00:03:30.980 bring this case. And when their hand was forced by two IRS whistleblowers, the federal government did

00:03:35.860 everything they possibly could to protect Joe Biden and to sabotage the more serious foreign corruption

00:03:41.160 and tax evasion charges that he could have been charged with. As New York Times reported last

00:03:45.620 year, the lead prosecutor on the case, David Weiss, quote, appeared willing to forego any prosecution

00:03:50.540 of Mr. Biden at all, and his office came close to agreeing to end the investigation without requiring

00:03:55.280 a guilty plea on any charges. The correspondence reveals that his position relayed to his staff

00:04:00.580 changed in the spring around the time that a pair of IRS officials on the case accused the Justice

00:04:05.800 Department of hamstringing the investigation. Now, one of those whistleblowers, Gary Shapley,

00:04:11.300 alleged in an affidavit that, quote, the criminal tax investigation of Hunter Biden, led by the

00:04:15.540 United States Attorney's Office for the District of Delaware, has been handled differently than any

00:04:20.240 investigation I've ever been a part of for the past 14 years of my IRS service. At every stage,

00:04:25.440 decisions were made that had the effect of benefiting the subject. Shapley also stated that, quote,

00:04:30.760 investigators assigned to this investigation were obstructed from seeing all the available

00:04:34.300 evidence. It is unknown if all the evidence in Hunter's laptop was reviewed by agents or by

00:04:39.220 prosecutors. Now, the testimony of Shapley and another whistleblower caused major unexpected problems

00:04:44.400 for Joe Biden's DOJ. Their plan to bury the Hunter Biden case entirely was no longer viable. First of

00:04:50.740 all, the whistleblowers revealed that Merrick Garland may have lied when he told Congress that the DOJ

00:04:55.500 wasn't interfering in the Hunter Biden investigation. That had to be resolved immediately. And secondly,

00:05:00.100 and more importantly, the whistleblowers helped establish a direct link between Hunter Biden's

00:05:04.140 criminal activity and Joe Biden's actions. So here's one recent interview, for example.

00:05:09.920 Watch. The IRS agents say they began finding evidence that gave them strong reason to want to

00:05:16.000 look into Joe Biden. We not only investigate tax crimes, we investigate financial crimes, wire fraud,

00:05:24.920 bank fraud, money laundering, international money laundering. There's all sorts of things that we have in

00:05:30.960 our tool belt to investigate cases. So in this case, we had leads.

00:05:37.740 The press and many people actually in both political parties say things such as

00:05:43.600 there's no evidence tying Joe Biden to Hunter Biden's businesses or any improper activities.

00:05:51.740 When you hear that, what do you think?

00:05:54.220 I think it's blatantly false.

00:05:56.720 So confronted with statements like this from whistleblowers, the DOJ had no choice but to

00:06:00.960 bring some kind of charge against Hunter Biden. They had to do something. So they settled on a plan.

00:06:04.740 They would bring a prosecution and then immediately seek out a plea deal. And this deal, as the DOJ envisioned,

00:06:10.660 would grant Hunter Biden immunity for prosecution for unrelated felonies that he may have committed,

00:06:14.680 including potential violations of FARA or the Foreign Agents Registration Act relating to his

00:06:19.680 overseas business operations. That's the law that was essentially never prosecuted until the DOJ decided

00:06:25.200 to use it to target Trump aides, including Paul Manafort. In exchange for accepting this plea deal,

00:06:31.280 granting him total immunity, Hunter Biden would suffer no actual punishment whatsoever. And the deal was

00:06:37.260 too over the top, though, which is why it collapsed late last year when a federal judge refused to sign off

00:06:42.460 on it. The DOJ admitted in court that they couldn't think of a similar sweetheart deal ever being

00:06:48.000 offered in the history of federal prosecutions, ever, to anybody. So the DOJ was back at square one,

00:06:54.980 but not entirely, because their strategy to absolve Hunter Biden completely may have failed,

00:07:00.220 but their plan to insulate Joe Biden from scrutiny appears to have succeeded. As Shapely stated in his

00:07:06.020 affidavit, the sabotage investigative process in Hunter Biden, quote, meant no charges would ever be

00:07:11.320 abroad in the District of Columbia, where the statute of limitations on the 2014 and 15 tax charges

00:07:15.680 would eventually expire. The year in question included foreign income from Ukrainian oil company

00:07:20.840 Burisma and a scheme to evade his income taxes through a partnership with a convicted felon.

00:07:26.060 There were also potential FARA issues relating to 2014 and 2015. The purposeful exclusion of the 2014

00:07:31.360 and 2015 years sanitized the most substantive criminal conduct and concealed material facts.

00:07:36.160 In other words, the government let the statute of limitations on the most serious potential

00:07:41.260 charges, the ones involving Hunter Biden's time working at a high-paying, no-show job at a Ukrainian

00:07:45.580 oil company, expire on purpose. That was the whole plan. And those potential charges aren't simply

00:07:51.740 significant because of their impact on Hunter Biden. They're significant because, as you may remember,

00:07:56.600 Joe Biden once publicly bragged about getting Ukraine's top prosecutor fired. This was the prosecutor

00:08:02.460 who, coincidentally enough, was investigating Burisma at the time. Watch.

00:08:07.960 I remember going over convincing our team, our brothers, to convincing us that we should be providing

00:08:14.440 for loan guarantees. And I went over, I guess, the 12th, 13th time to Kiev, and I was supposed to

00:08:23.000 announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from

00:08:28.760 Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against a state prosecutor, and they didn't.

00:08:36.020 So they said they had, they were walking out to the press conference, said, no, I said, I'm not going to,

00:08:39.980 we're not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You're not the

00:08:44.680 president. The president said, I said, call him. I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion

00:08:49.680 dollars. I said, you're not getting a billion. I'm going to be leaving here, and I think it was, what,

00:08:53.740 six hours. I looked, I said, I'm leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not

00:08:58.320 getting the money. Oh, son of a, got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid.

00:09:06.400 So that is Joe Biden admitting that when he was vice president, the U.S. threatened to withhold

00:09:10.700 funding to Ukraine until Ukraine fired its own top prosecutor. Now, you could choose to believe that

00:09:14.820 Joe Biden is just really passionate about ending corruption in Eastern Europe or whatever. Or it might

00:09:20.800 be that Joe Biden wanted to take the heat off the corruption that his own family was engaging in.

00:09:25.120 You could choose which one of those seems more likely. We'll probably never have the evidence of

00:09:28.620 any such corruption now, though, because as Shapely said, quote, there's no mechanism available to

00:09:34.320 collect the tax owed by Hunter Biden for 2014 other than in a voluntary fashion. And it seems that he is

00:09:40.700 not going to voluntarily submit that, surprisingly enough. So this is the ultimate goal of the Hunter

00:09:45.540 Biden prosecution. The DOJ is not concerned about this gun case, obviously. Their real objective

00:09:51.300 has been to slow roll their work as much as possible so that the more serious charges expire.

00:09:58.460 And it's very clear, as the whistleblower said, that there's a viable reason to investigate not

00:10:02.440 only Hunter Biden for potential fare violations, but also his father as well. Congressional Republicans,

00:10:07.760 for example, have released a July 2017 WhatsApp message in which Hunter Biden appears to threaten a

00:10:13.140 Chinese business associate by mentioning his father. Quote, I'm sitting here with my father,

00:10:17.540 and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. That's what Hunter

00:10:22.040 Biden wrote, according to the documents. Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now

00:10:25.700 before it gets out of hand, and now means tonight. And Z, if I get a call or text from anyone involved

00:10:31.000 in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next

00:10:35.320 to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret

00:10:39.320 not following my direction. I'm sitting here waiting for the call with my father.

00:10:44.420 So that's a conversation that strongly suggests that Joe Biden was directly involved with his

00:10:48.340 son's foreign business dealings with a Chinese private equity fund closely tied to the Chinese

00:10:53.220 Communist Party, that he'd leverage his influence to secure payouts. I mean, he's doing it. You can

00:10:58.760 see in the text message, you can see that this is what's being done. These are the kinds of

00:11:03.520 investigative threads that the DOJ has been working to bury since they obtained Hunter Biden's laptop all

00:11:08.800 the way back in December of 2019 as part of an investigation dating back to 2018. And these

00:11:14.280 investigations haven't taken so long because they're especially complicated. They've gone on

00:11:19.580 for so long because the federal government has been trying to run out the clock. That's been the

00:11:24.580 strategy. They have not been very, you know, coy about it either. It's pretty obvious. First, they

00:11:28.980 denied that the laptop was even real. Then they slow walked the investigation into its contents. And when

00:11:34.020 two IRS whistleblowers disrupted their plan, they selected the pettiest charges imaginable

00:11:38.460 so that they can obscure the real crimes that they desperately don't want to investigate.

00:11:45.360 So Hunter Biden, yes, was convicted today, but for one reason only, so that Joe Biden won't ever be

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00:13:03.880 around 6 in 10 registered voters, including one-third of Democrats, would favor the U.S.

00:13:08.520 government deporting all illegal immigrants. According to a new poll, the CBS News YouGov poll

00:13:14.140 published on Sunday found that 62% of registered voters support a new national program to deport all

00:13:20.540 illegal immigrants, similar to a plan that has been proposed by former President Donald Trump,

00:13:23.840 who promised to carry out the largest deportation operation in American history if he's reelected.

00:13:27.720 A majority of those surveyed also support giving local law enforcement the power to identify illegal

00:13:32.340 immigrants living in the U.S. The poll surveyed 1,615 registered voters across the U.S. and oversampled

00:13:40.500 people in battleground states, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,

00:13:44.720 Wisconsin. This is significant, obviously, politically, and you should know that this 60%

00:13:51.200 figure is pretty consistent now. It's not just this poll. For instance, there was a poll a few

00:13:56.760 weeks ago from Reuters that had similar results. And of course, when Reuters did the poll, that was not

00:14:02.800 the headline of the Reuters poll. Here was the Reuters headline on their website. Half of Americans

00:14:08.620 oppose immigrant detention camps, Reuters-Ipsos poll finds. So apparently in that poll, half of

00:14:15.740 respondents said that they don't want to put immigrants into detention facilities while they

00:14:22.040 await deportation. And yet, so this just kind of shows how confused some voters are and also why a lot

00:14:30.740 of people voting should not be voting. So they don't want to put them in detention facilities. And yet that

00:14:35.940 same poll found that 56% do think that most or all illegal immigrants should be deported. And it was 0.98

00:14:42.920 60% on the other poll. So, you know, we're at it like 60% seems to be a pretty reliable figure. And

00:14:48.920 broken down more specifically in the Reuters poll, 36% said they supported putting illegal immigrants in

00:14:55.400 detention facilities, which means that the rest either weren't sure or didn't support it. But 20%

00:15:01.560 more than 36% said that they want to have all the illegal immigrants deported. So only 36% said we

00:15:09.920 can put them in detention facilities while they await deportation. But 56% said that we should deport

00:15:17.420 them. How do you make sense of that? I mean, if you want mass deportation, and that's what you have a

00:15:25.280 majority of Americans now, they want mass deportation. They want to deport all the illegal immigrants

00:15:30.460 correctly. That's what they want to do. But if you want to do that, it kind of requires the use of

00:15:35.700 detention facilities. Because like, what else are you going to do? Are you going to ask the illegal

00:15:41.780 immigrants to volunteer to come and get on the bus at a certain time? Are you going to send out like 1.00

00:15:46.920 an RSVP, make an event bright page or something? This is the event for deportation. You got to come

00:15:52.420 to the bus. Obviously, you can't do that. You have to, the whole point, the whole reason we have these

00:15:56.080 detention facilities that we make such a big deal about is you have to collect these people

00:15:59.780 and keep them somewhere while we facilitate the deporting down to where they came from.

00:16:06.640 So how do you make sense of that? I think that this shows that, well, shows, again, that a certain

00:16:10.320 percentage of Americans, not surprisingly, don't quite understand the issue. They're confused about

00:16:18.680 what detention facilities are. Especially when, I think this poll called them camps. So I'd be

00:16:28.140 interested in a poll like that. Like, how many Americans support detention camps versus how many

00:16:34.720 support detention facilities? And I'm guessing that significantly more Americans are okay with

00:16:40.660 detention facilities but not camps. Because you use the word camp and it sounds scary. And they think,

00:16:45.980 oh, well, that's, camps are bad. That's scary. We don't want to do that. So they may be confused. But

00:16:50.640 the basic point here is that in both polls, a sizable majority want mass deportation. You know,

00:17:02.440 they might be squeamish about the way that it's done, but they want it done. And they can be

00:17:11.100 squeamish. That's fine. That's what leadership is for. That's why we're supposed to have leaders in 0.64

00:17:15.580 this country. Because a good, strong leader comes in and says, okay, you guys want this done.

00:17:23.740 We've got people here who don't belong here. And they are, in fact, taking your jobs. And they are, 0.82

00:17:31.780 in fact, some of them bringing crime and all these things and drugs into your communities.

00:17:36.800 So you don't want them here. They don't belong here. They're not here legally. We've got to get rid

00:17:40.520 of them. Which is to say, we have to, we have to, if get rid of them is too strong a word,

00:17:45.440 we have to, we have to, we have to facilitate their entrance back into their home countries is 1.00

00:17:50.900 what we have to do. And, but you're, but doing that, that's like a, that's kind of an ugly thing.

00:18:00.240 There's, there's no pretty way of doing it. There's no, there's no real nice way.

00:18:06.460 Like there's no nice way to make some, somebody do something they don't want to do.

00:18:11.720 And when you've got illegal immigrants in the country and you have to make them leave, like 1.00

00:18:15.720 they don't want, that's why they're here. They don't want to leave. And so you, we're making them

00:18:19.420 leave against their will. They don't want to, they want to stay here. That's why they're here.

00:18:23.560 And there's just, there's no nice or especially pleasant way of making people do things they don't

00:18:28.560 want to do. Does that mean that we should never make people do things they don't want to do?

00:18:32.540 No, of course it doesn't mean that. Like every prisoner who's ever gone to prison did not want

00:18:37.480 to go to prison. You had to make him go. Not a pretty thing. Prison's not a pretty place.

00:18:42.980 Deportation, the, the bus that you load the illegal immigrants on and bring them home. Like 1.00

00:18:47.640 that's probably not a pretty place to be. These facilities are also probably not the most wonderful

00:18:55.160 places in the world. It's not the kind of place that you'd want to stay. Like you wouldn't choose

00:18:59.360 that over going to a holiday inn. Maybe you'd choose it over a Motel 6 though. So this is why

00:19:05.400 you need a leader to say, well, this is a, this is what needs to be done. We all know it's the right

00:19:11.760 thing, but it's an ugly and kind of uncomfortable thing to do. You're all squeamish about it. That's

00:19:17.800 fine. So I will do it. I will do the thing that is, that is hard and, and difficult and kind of ugly.

00:19:25.600 I will do it because it's the right thing. That's what, that's what leadership is all about.

00:19:31.160 And that's a message that resonates as we've seen. Um, and I, I, you know, I mean, of course,

00:19:38.720 Trump has said things along these lines many times, but I think this particular phrasing it

00:19:44.940 almost exactly like this, like acknowledging that cleaning up the problem. We have a, we have a,

00:19:52.620 a problem of mass illegal immigration. We've got tens of millions here who are not here legally

00:19:57.800 and therefore don't belong here legally. Cleaning that up will not be a pretty picture. Um,

00:20:06.020 and we can even, as I've acknowledged many times, uh, on an emotional level, on a personal level,

00:20:14.720 you can understand why they come here. If I, if I lived in Mexico and I thought that I could just 0.99

00:20:21.360 come here without having to wait in line and do all the rigmarole with, uh, getting a legal

00:20:26.000 citizenship, if I thought that I could just come here and bring my family here, I would do it.

00:20:30.540 So I understand that. So it's nothing personal, nothing personal, but you come here, you broke

00:20:36.740 the law. You're, you're not supposed to be here. So we, we deport you because we have, we have laws

00:20:41.560 here. We have to enforce them. It's just simple as that. Um, and I think that's a, that's clearly

00:20:46.880 even from the polling, that's a message that resonates. Okay. Uh, here's a manager at big

00:20:52.920 lots in Rochester, New York. I believe this is who, uh, and we've seen a lot of stories like this,

00:20:59.340 including in at big lots in particular, but this is a manager who was fired for, uh, the crime of

00:21:07.320 not wanting people to steal from the big lot store where he was the manager. Let's watch this.

00:21:12.220 What I saw was he took a swing, like a punch at her. That's what Pat Guider says he saw inside

00:21:20.800 the big lot store that he used to manage at Eroticoid. And that's why he followed the shoplifter

00:21:25.640 out of the store. I let people who shoplift leave the store every day, every day. We just put it in

00:21:33.640 the system that they asked us to do. This was an assault. This wasn't shoplifting. This was an assault.

00:21:38.320 Despite 20 years with the company and a positive review in March, the company did not see it the

00:21:44.640 way Guider did. And two weeks after the incident, Guider says he was called to his district manager's

00:21:49.760 office and fired. Do you think you did the right thing? I think I did the right and just thing.

00:21:55.320 The right and just thing. This is not the first retail store manager fired over a shoplifting

00:22:01.160 incident. It's not even the first big lots manager fired over shoplifting. Just Google it and you'll find

00:22:06.220 the story of the manager at the store in California. I tried to call big lots, but there is no phone

00:22:11.520 number to reach the CEO or the communications chief. I emailed the company on Tuesday afternoon,

00:22:18.320 Wednesday evening, and again Friday morning. I asked why was Pat Guider fired? What is the company

00:22:24.740 policy? Is following a shoplifter a fireable offense? And what training do managers get for

00:22:30.560 shoplifters? The company has not replied. But this poster in the big lots lunchroom says never leave

00:22:37.540 the store to pursue, detain or identify a customer. So I did not put myself in jeopardy. I did not put

00:22:44.160 any shoppers in jeopardy. I went with Guider back to his old store. He said he and police found the

00:22:49.820 shopping cart in front of the Dunkin Donuts, but lost the shoplifter. Police say the assistant manager

00:22:54.900 declined medical care. Now Guider and his wife are trying to figure out how to get health insurance.

00:23:00.400 They still have two boys in college and at 62, Guider's not sure how easy it will be to find

00:23:06.300 another job. The good thing is we have a huge faith in God, huge faith in God and everything

00:23:13.480 will work out. It's just, it's going to be difficult. It's going to be difficult. So that's good. This is a guy

00:23:19.680 who's, he worked at the big lots for 20 years. He's working customer service and he apparently

00:23:26.100 cares about his job and he cares about the company that he works for. So we got to make sure to get

00:23:30.480 rid of him. We got to get rid of all those types from just, just we like, that's, that's what we

00:23:34.800 need. We need, we need to have one fewer of those types working customer service who actually cares 1.00

00:23:39.740 about his job and cares about the company he works for and like cares about their bottom line and all of

00:23:45.420 that. So let's weed out all of those so that we can make sure that this trend continues and that

00:23:52.760 eventually we, we end up in a scenario, which we're, where we're headed now, where like every

00:23:57.080 single person who works in customer service is just hates their job, hates the company they work

00:24:03.260 for, hates the customers, doesn't care about anything, doesn't care about anybody. We want to

00:24:07.880 make sure that everybody that works in customer service is like that. So that's, so let's get rid of

00:24:11.820 the Pat Guiders of the world. And that's what we're headed to. He says that the thief took a swing

00:24:17.120 at, um, one of the assistant managers, presumably, I assume because that person was also trying to

00:24:23.640 stop him from stealing. He doesn't say that, but we can, um, assume. And then, and the guy flees the

00:24:28.720 store. He's followed by the manager, Pat Guider, who then is promptly fired by the company despite

00:24:34.920 having worked there for 20 years. Uh, and as you heard, Guider says that he acted, uh, it was the

00:24:41.320 right and just thing. And he emphasizes that, that it was right and just for him to, um, for him to

00:24:47.900 intervene the way he did. Is that true? Like, obviously, no question. It, uh, it, it was for him to go

00:24:56.100 after the guy who not only is stealing, like, even if he was just, just stealing, that would be enough

00:25:01.160 reason morally to try to track him down, chase him down to stop him from doing it. But the fact

00:25:07.200 that he assaulted or attempted to assault someone, uh, is all the more reason. So he acted rightly

00:25:11.780 and justly. No question about it. But the sad truth is that we now live in a world where we have

00:25:18.580 to ask whether it's right to do the right and just thing. Like, so right being used in two different

00:25:30.280 contexts here, morally right? Yes. But is that, is that, is that the correct course of action? Is

00:25:38.400 that the, uh, is that the most prudent? Maybe it's the best, is it prudent? Put it that way. Is it

00:25:43.220 prudent to do the right and just thing in these kinds of circumstances? Because before you act,

00:25:48.740 you know, before you do anything, before you make any decision, you have to ask yourself,

00:25:52.920 is there any chance that this action will have any kind of positive outcome?

00:26:02.440 And, um, if before you take an action, you, you do that inventory and you say, no, there's really

00:26:09.180 no chance that this has any positive outcome. And like most of the time, the prudent choice is to not,

00:26:15.040 is to not do it. Uh, and we've reached a stage in our cultural decay where the right action often has

00:26:21.180 just no chance of producing any kind of good result. This is not me victim blaming, by the way,

00:26:25.660 Pat Guider. Again, he's a, he's a, uh, he did a courageous and moral thing. Wish him nothing but the

00:26:30.360 best. Um, but we're at a point in society where we have to say like, does, can, can we recommend

00:26:40.620 anyone to do that? I mean, in this particular case, okay, so you chase the guy out and then what?

00:26:46.480 Um, because even if you can somehow get him to stop, uh, if you call 911, they probably aren't

00:26:54.500 going to come. And in this case, I guess they did at some point, but there's a good, there's a good

00:27:01.120 chance that they won't even come, especially depending on what jurisdiction you're in. And if

00:27:04.960 they do come, they probably aren't going to arrest the guy. Um, and he's probably not going to still be

00:27:10.720 there. He's going to have left by then. If they do arrest him, he is certainly going to be released

00:27:17.680 the same day or at, or at, at best the next day that he's, that he's, uh, arrested. Um,

00:27:26.800 and even if that happens, like he's not going to prison. He should, but he's not the guy who did that.

00:27:33.880 So he's not going to be taken off the street, which means the possibility of you doing the

00:27:41.360 right thing, the possibility of that having any sort of actual meaningfully positive outcome

00:27:46.000 is basically null. It's, it's a, it's a negligible chance at best. That's the way it is. It shouldn't

00:27:54.420 be that way. I wish it wasn't that way, but that's the way it is. Um, so then you have to ask

00:28:03.760 yourself, like, well, what about the pot? What about the possibility of a negative outcome?

00:28:09.020 You're trying to do the right thing. And it is morally the right thing to try to stop somebody

00:28:14.080 from stealing. But as we've seen the chance of that working of that having any positive outcome

00:28:21.360 is basically, it's like, it's almost impossible. So what's the possibility of a negative outcome?

00:28:26.920 Well, those possibilities are endless. I mean, you, you, you probably at least get fired.

00:28:34.800 That's what happened to this guy. And that's like best case. It's, it's so crazy now that we

00:28:40.920 actually have to say he's lucky that he only got fired. Um, because if it, and that's if, if you are

00:28:47.840 not successful in apprehending this person, then probably best case you get fired.

00:28:52.740 But if you do somehow apprehend the person, then you probably are going to have criminal charges

00:28:59.980 yourself. And if he fights you and you fight back, even though we all know that like he started it

00:29:06.640 because he committed a crime, you're trying to stop him. If he resists you or tries to take a swing

00:29:11.620 at you or something and you defend yourself, obviously that's just more criminal charges that

00:29:16.280 should be put on him, not on you in a sane world. But we don't live in a sane world.

00:29:23.740 So if he gets hurt or something in the struggle, then you're probably looking at prison time.

00:29:29.800 So this is the scenario. You follow that guy. The chance that you go to prison

00:29:37.320 is higher than the chance that he goes to prison. Much higher. Um, and so although we, although we

00:29:51.100 would say it is, uh, it is morally right for an employee in that situation to respond the way he

00:29:56.400 did, I wouldn't recommend it. You know, when my kids get a little bit older and they are old

00:30:04.220 enough to have jobs and that sort of thing and they're working retail, I would tell them now

00:30:10.940 you see someone stealing, don't, don't chase them down. Like I'm sorry. Your life is going to be

00:30:17.440 destroyed when you've got a company with these insane policies and you're going to put your life

00:30:23.660 on the line for the sake of this company that like, we'll just turn around and fire you anyway

00:30:27.780 for it, for your trouble. Uh, no, you just don't, don't do that. Um, it's not, uh, it's the morally

00:30:39.680 right thing, but it's not the prudent thing. And, uh, then you end up sort of a, a martyr in a sense,

00:30:46.440 but like what, what good does that do you in the end? Um, and this is what happens when,

00:30:54.200 as we've talked about many times, when you live in a society that goes out of its way to

00:30:59.820 disincentivize people from doing the right thing. It didn't, it wasn't always that way. It used to be

00:31:06.340 you were incentivized to do the right thing. And even when you're incentivized to do the right thing,

00:31:10.260 it still takes courage to do. Because like, if we lived in a, let's say we lived in a, let's revert,

00:31:16.560 let's go back and replay the hypothetical. Let's say we lived in a, in a sane, just a basically sane,

00:31:22.160 not a perfect society, but a sane one. Well, in that scenario, you see somebody stealing,

00:31:27.460 you chase them down. There's still risk. Like you are taking on risk. It takes, it takes guts to do

00:31:31.800 that because there's a physical risk to you. You don't know the guy could have a gun. You could,

00:31:34.800 you don't know what could happen. So you are putting yourself on the line.

00:31:39.340 But in that scenario, I would, I would say, yeah, you, you should, you should do the right thing.

00:31:42.700 Um, I would even tell my son if he was working a job and I would say, you know what,

00:31:47.760 and that you should do the right, it's a, there's a risk involved, but you should do the right thing.

00:31:52.160 But that's because in a sane society, the only risk you're taking is how this,

00:31:56.200 that bad guy responds to you. But in an insane society, there's this extra risk,

00:32:02.340 which is that this system is totally against you. And so that even if that guy, even if you

00:32:07.060 survive the altercation with the guy, the system is going to come around and punish you for it,

00:32:12.000 punish you for your bravery. Um, and it just gets to a point where they, they go out of their way

00:32:19.460 to disincentivize you from doing the right thing. And so it's like, you have no choice

00:32:23.460 as a normal person, but to say, okay, well then, all right, then I guess this guy's just going to

00:32:28.880 steal. All right. Um, Daily Wire has this story. Activist and actor John Leguizamo took out a full

00:32:35.600 page ad in the New York Times on Sunday, urging Emmy award voters to nominate non-white artists.

00:32:40.540 Revolutionary stuff from this guy. The 63-year-old explained the move in an ex post.

00:32:48.000 Um, I know everyone is exhausted about inclusion, but not who are, but not us who are not included.

00:32:53.520 So that's why I took this ad out in the New York Times. White peoples are only 58.9% of the

00:32:59.180 population, but overrepresented in top positions across the board. They are the decision makers

00:33:04.260 in tech, banking, corporations, uh, medicine and streamers and Hollywood. Um, he continued,

00:33:13.000 America is better when it is inclusive. It is more profitable. It is more creative.

00:33:18.060 Let's not give up. I'm still woke. Are you? Um, and then he goes on to that. So that's the,

00:33:26.960 the tweet. And then he goes on to the full page ad. Please let this be the year we finally embrace

00:33:33.340 change. The year we truly find equity and see artists of color represented across not just

00:33:38.480 one category, but all categories. I know you're tired of hearing words like inclusivity and

00:33:44.360 diversity, treading water while you try to understand how to put actions behind these

00:33:48.020 sentiments. Look no further. It's simple. He went on. There are hundreds of prolific non-white 1.00

00:33:54.120 artists who deserve to be considered for awards this year, not because they're simply black,

00:33:58.000 brown, indigenous, or Asian, but because they're truly great. Exceptional artists who have achieved

00:34:02.740 that greatness with a, with, with a foot on their neck for far too long. Okay. Um,

00:34:10.880 first of all, maybe this is all that really needs to be said about this because I think

00:34:13.440 responding to the point or whatever he's, you know, if we can call this a point, responding

00:34:18.420 to it is probably unnecessary. Although I, you know, I'll, I'll still respond to the point

00:34:22.400 because saying unnecessary things is kind of my bag, I guess it's my brand, but, uh, just

00:34:27.100 pulling up the screenshot of the actual ad of the New York times. So this is a full page

00:34:31.980 ad in the New York times that he took out physical, like physical newspaper. So literally

00:34:37.380 tens of people are going to read this thing. Tens and tens of people are going to read this

00:34:40.460 thing. Easily upwards of 50 people. I've heard 60 people by some estimates will read this.

00:34:45.300 And yet you have typos and grammatical errors in the full page ad. Really. It starts with the

00:34:52.340 tweet where he says white peoples, but then, uh, he says, I know you're tired of hearing words

00:35:00.220 like inclusivity and diversity dash treading water while you try to understand how to put

00:35:06.500 action behind these sentiments. Okay. That's not a sentence. What is that? That it's not a

00:35:14.460 sentence. I can tell you that. And what about this? There are hundreds of prolific non-white 1.00

00:35:18.940 artists who deserve to be considered for awards this year. Award with a capital A, by the way,

00:35:23.340 not because they're simply dot, dot, dot, black, Brown, indigenous, or Asian, but because they are

00:35:30.420 truly great dot, dot, dot, exceptional artists who achieve that greatness with a foot on their neck

00:35:35.400 for far too long. So what is that? Look, I know that boomers, uh, like to abuse the ellipsis 1.00

00:35:42.820 and I've never quite figured that out. But once you get over the age of 60, you know, the dot,

00:35:47.240 dot, dot move, you do it all the time. Uh, it's, it's a boomer thing. My dad ends like every email

00:35:52.900 with a dot, dot, dot. And I, it always has an ominous tone, even if it's not supposed to.

00:35:57.880 Um, but this is a little bit overboard. Like they are truly great dot, dot, dot, exceptional artists.

00:36:06.120 Even in your own head, what, how, how would you say that sentence out loud? I can't even say that

00:36:12.500 he's writing phonetically because I don't know phonetically, what is that supposed to sound?

00:36:17.340 And I don't mean to harp on it, but it just blows my mind that you could put a full page ad out

00:36:22.480 and you don't get anyone to do even five seconds of proofreading. And, and actually this is all

00:36:29.440 related in a way because John Leguizamo put out this flagrantly racist ad, you know, openly calling

00:36:37.680 for non-white people to get awards. He doesn't even bother with the usual, um, you know, what do they 0.99

00:36:43.320 usually say? Diverse people. You know, we don't want to make sure that diverse people get awards this 1.00

00:36:47.720 year. Doesn't even bother with that. That's usually the euphemism. He just comes out and flat out says,

00:36:52.140 non-white, black, brown, or Asian or indigenous. Hispanics are, I guess, out of luck. He is 0.99

00:37:00.420 Hispanic. Well, I got, no, I guess they're, they're brown. They count as brown. Asians don't count as 1.00

00:37:05.500 brown. Okay. Well, okay. Uh, cause we say black, brown, white, and for Asian, you can't, you're not 1.00

00:37:13.700 allowed to say the color anymore. You know, cause they used to say yellow and I'm, you can't even say

00:37:18.600 that anymore, but that's what they used to say. So that's a really interesting thing. That's so

00:37:23.300 Asians, like that's the one ethnicity where you're not allowed to use as shorthand a color. That's 0.98

00:37:27.580 not, and you can say, well, a color, you know, Asian people are not yellow. Um, and that's true, 0.96

00:37:32.920 but white people aren't really white. Like my skin is not literally white. It's close. So I'm to, 0.68

00:37:37.520 you know, I'm pretty, I can be kind of pale, but it's not actually white. So anyway, that, that's a whole

00:37:40.820 other thing. Uh, there are all these weird rules about, you know, you can say people of color,

00:37:45.080 but you can't say colored people. You can refer to black, brown, and whites, but when you go to

00:37:50.320 Asian, you have to just say Asian because you can't say the color that is approximately, you know,

00:37:55.640 close to the skin color. All that stuff makes no sense. Um, anyway, he says that, uh, uh,

00:38:03.800 he claims that non-white entertainers have had a foot on their neck and the idea that it's hard for

00:38:08.820 non-whites to succeed in entertainment, which is a claim obviously disproven by just everything we see

00:38:14.760 from Hollywood, but also John Leguizamo himself is proof that there is no pro-white bias in Hollywood.

00:38:22.660 If anybody asked me, I'll put it this way. If anybody said to me, give me one piece of evidence,

00:38:30.140 like the single most compelling piece of evidence that proves that Hollywood is not bigoted against

00:38:37.460 non-white people. If I was posed, if I, if somebody posed that challenge to me, I would say 1.00

00:38:43.880 exhibit a, I give you John Leguizamo because if there was a conspiracy against non-whites in Hollywood, 0.80

00:38:51.040 how the hell did this guy manage to have a career? The fact that John Leguizamo has had a career in

00:38:58.820 Hollywood for like four decades, if it proves anything, it proves that obviously they're not

00:39:05.220 conspiring against brown people in Hollywood. And I'm not saying, look, I'm not being a hater here.

00:39:13.220 I, I, you know, I'm not saying he's terrible. John Leguizamo, he's just kind of, you know, he's,

00:39:17.860 he's, he's, he's John Leguizamo. It's nobody's watching a movie because John Leguizamo is in it.

00:39:25.780 Right? Like if you, if someone tells you about a movie, they say it's good. You're like, oh, who's in it?

00:39:29.600 And they go, uh, well, John Leguizamo, you're not going to say, oh, I got to see that. You're

00:39:34.300 going to say, oh, yeah, okay. Yeah. But who else? Like, of course, yeah, he's in it, but who else

00:39:37.260 is it? Who, who really is in it? Give me a real person. Um, but you're also not going to not watch

00:39:43.580 a movie because he's in it. He's just, he just shows up and, and you say, oh, you know, that's John

00:39:47.900 Leguizamo. And then you don't think about it. So his career is exactly what it should be

00:39:54.640 on the theory that there is no pro-white bias in Hollywood. Like on his merits, he is exactly 0.90

00:40:03.260 where he should be. That's, that's, if there's no racial bias against non-whites and you look at a 0.77

00:40:09.320 guy like John Leguizamo and you say, okay, well, his career should be like right about here.

00:40:13.140 And he should be doing these kinds of movies. And then you look and like, okay, yeah, that's what

00:40:16.940 he's doing. Um, and yet, uh, he's one of the main ones out there these days, you know, making this

00:40:25.800 claim about racism against, uh, non-whites. And it's not hard to see why it's because he has had a,

00:40:31.600 uh, you know, by Hollywood star standards, he's had a relatively mediocre career. He's looking for

00:40:37.180 an explanation for that. And he's, uh, settled on this as the explanation.

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00:42:48.840 there's probably something wrong with you. Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:42:51.800 So on this show over the past few weeks and mostly during this segment, we've documented the desperate

00:43:03.140 effort to smear Justice Samuel Alito. Of course, the media has been doing this to Clarence Thomas

00:43:08.620 for decades since his confirmation hearing. We know what happened to Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett.

00:43:14.400 Gorsuch will get his turn next, we can assume. But for now, Alito is up at bat. But the media's

00:43:20.500 anti-Alito campaign has run into a significant roadblock. They want to find a scandal that they

00:43:26.900 can blow up and try to turn into a major national crisis. The problem is that apparently Samuel Alito

00:43:32.040 is the most normal, straight edge, boringly honest and upright figure maybe in the history of American

00:43:39.960 public life. That's the only conclusion that we can draw. Because the entire media apparatus has

00:43:46.240 been digging frantically through this man's life and past to find something, anything problematic.

00:43:51.840 And so far, they have come up empty. Like so empty, in fact, that they've been forced to make a scandal

00:43:57.520 out of two banal, utterly trifling incidents involving flags hanging outside of the Alito residency.

00:44:04.640 So it would seem that the edgiest, most provocative thing that Alito has ever done

00:44:10.100 is fly an upside-down flag outside of his home one time. Something that apparently he didn't even

00:44:16.180 actually do. His wife did. So the fact that they have to use the flag stuff as somehow evidence of

00:44:22.980 his corruption just goes to show how squeaky clean, and for the media, I think disappointingly

00:44:28.780 non-corrupt this guy really is. But they haven't stopped. Flaggates didn't really land with the 1.00

00:44:36.100 general public. Flaggate the sequel, they tried to do it again. Flaggate reloaded. That didn't land

00:44:42.480 either. Now they've moved on to the next fake Alito scandal, and as you'll see, it is the fakest one

00:44:48.760 yet. Yesterday, Rolling Stone first published in a lengthy and breathless article secretly recorded

00:44:54.520 by someone. They have secretly recorded comments made by Alito at a recent dinner. A left-wing

00:45:01.880 activist named Lauren Windsor attended the Supreme Court Historical Society's annual dinner on June 3rd,

00:45:08.040 posing apparently as a conservative. And she struck up a conversation with Alito,

00:45:13.480 asked him a lot of very leading questions, trying to get him to say something,

00:45:18.140 anything incriminating, or at least vaguely controversial. The secret recording of this

00:45:22.800 exchange has been, as you expect, trumpeted as definitive proof that Alito is a dangerous

00:45:29.760 right-wing radical. Headlines have called the recording shocking. There have been renewed calls

00:45:35.020 for Alito's impeachment. Now the only problem, which is not a problem as far as the media is concerned,

00:45:40.300 is that it's all once again nonsense. Justice Alito, even in what he believed to be a private

00:45:47.400 conversation with an ideological ally, still proves to be frustratingly professional, polite,

00:45:54.320 and composed. Much to the chagrin of the activist who went through all that trouble to record him,

00:45:59.740 you know, this man still absolutely refused to give so much as, like, not even one spicy take

00:46:06.000 about anything. That hasn't stopped her or the media from pretending that Alito has been somehow

00:46:11.160 exposed, but there's only so much you can do to dress this up as a scandal. And I'll show you what I

00:46:16.760 mean. The left-wing rag, the New Republic, tried its best, though. Here's their headline.

00:46:21.140 Samuel Alito caught on tape revealing his true guiding force. That sounds pretty ominous.

00:46:30.100 Caught on tape reveals his true guiding force. What could that mean? What is his guiding force?

00:46:37.940 The mind conjures all sorts of nightmarish possibilities. Well, let's read on. Quoting from

00:46:44.700 the article, a secret tape has exposed some of Justice Samuel Alito's privately held beliefs,

00:46:49.180 including endorsing a fight to return our country to a place of godliness, with the stark understanding

00:46:55.640 that one side or the other is going to win. Now, I'm going to pause there for a moment,

00:47:02.600 and I'll read a little bit more of the article, but you should know that that's it. That's all she

00:47:09.060 could get this guy to say. One side or the other is going to win, and the country should return to

00:47:15.460 godliness. On a secret tape being surreptitiously recorded, speaking to someone that he thought was

00:47:21.760 a friend, and those two statements are the most provocative things he could be induced to say.

00:47:29.040 And now the poor media has to pretend that the two blandest, least controversial statements

00:47:33.300 ever made by anyone ever in history are somehow earth-shattering. Reading on, quote,

00:47:37.960 Alito's comments were recorded by advocacy journalist Lauren Windsor during the Supreme Court

00:47:42.380 Historical Society's annual dinner on June 3rd, an opportunity leveraged by many right-wing

00:47:46.820 activists to cozy up to members of the nation's highest judiciary. A copy of the tape, which

00:47:51.880 documented the incredible candor with which Alito forwent any illusion of neutrality, was provided

00:47:57.360 to Rolling Stone. Leading Alito on, the liberal documentarian, is heard approaching the justice

00:48:01.820 about a disbelief that American polarization can come to an end by way of negotiating with the

00:48:06.460 political left. Instead, Windsor posits that it's more a matter of conservatives winning.

00:48:11.920 Quote, I think you're probably right, Alito replies. On one side or the other, one side or the other is

00:48:17.000 going to win. I don't know. I mean, there can be a way of working, a way of living together peacefully,

00:48:22.240 but it's difficult, you know, because there are differences on fundamental things that really can't

00:48:25.900 be compromised. They really can't be compromised, so it's not like you're going to split the

00:48:29.940 difference. Alito then agreed with Windsor's assessment that the country needed to return to a,

00:48:34.360 quote, place of godliness. That's it. That's the end. It turns out that Alito didn't even say that

00:48:42.400 the country needed to return to godliness. The woman said it, and he agreed. So breaking news,

00:48:47.600 Samuel Alito is not an atheist. The scandal here apparently is that Samuel Alito did not confess

00:48:53.820 to being a secret atheist. Like, what was he supposed to say when someone says, oh, the country needs to

00:49:00.240 return to a place of godliness? You want him to say, no, it shouldn't? You want him as a Christian

00:49:05.500 to say, no, I don't, no, I think godlessness is better. It's evidently the position of the media

00:49:11.360 that Supreme Court justices are required to be atheists, but Alito is not. In fact, Alito, in a

00:49:18.080 truly horrifying turn of events, apparently has the same view as the founding fathers, because they

00:49:23.300 also believe that America should be rooted in godliness. That was the headline of the Declaration

00:49:27.900 of Independence, you may recall. It's written on our money. It's in the Pledge of Allegiance.

00:49:31.180 It's our official national motto. So Samuel Alito agrees with our national motto. That's what they're

00:49:38.420 trying to make a scandal out of. But it's not just that. We can't forget. Alito also said that the two

00:49:45.740 ideological sides in America might be able to live and work together peacefully, but their views are

00:49:50.560 fundamentally incompatible, and therefore they won't be able to reach a satisfying compromise.

00:49:54.040 He didn't even take a side, which, by the way, he could have. Supreme Court justices are allowed to

00:49:59.720 have opinions. They're not required to be mindless automotons. It wouldn't even be a scandal if he

00:50:04.480 actually gave his political opinion in what he thought was a private conversation off the clock.

00:50:10.880 He's allowed to do that. But he didn't even do that. Instead, he just made a very basic,

00:50:16.380 obviously correct observation about the state of political discourse in America. It's also an

00:50:20.560 observation often made by people on both sides of the spectrum. Breaking news. Samuel Alito says

00:50:27.080 thing that everyone on all sides agrees with. Indeed, Alito is so scandal-free that at this point,

00:50:34.520 like, I'm getting annoyed by it. Part of me wishes the guy would actually do or say something

00:50:39.320 problematic just so that this whole story would be more interesting to talk about.

00:50:43.620 But that doesn't appear likely to happen. Instead, we're doomed to this endless news cycle where the

00:50:48.600 real headline every time is that Samuel Alito is an upright and honest guy. Which, of course,

00:50:55.760 in the end is the whole reason the left hates him. And it's why the anti-Alito campaign is,

00:51:00.500 once again, and more than ever, canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for

00:51:05.240 watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - June 11, 2024

Ep. 1384 - Hunter Biden Was Convicted Today, But Not For The Reasons The Media Claims

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