The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 142 - Pope Francis Is No Reformer

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, police are investigating an inappropriate photo taken by

00:00:04.420 high school boys. Is that really a police matter? Also, Democrats are bailing on their plans to

00:00:09.940 impeach Kavanaugh. Big surprise there. And the Vatican is yet again stepping in to prevent

00:00:15.280 reforms in the church. What does that tell us about Pope Francis? We'll talk about all that next.

00:00:21.580 Maybe you heard about this story. A bunch of high school students in Wisconsin, at Baraboo

00:00:32.300 High School in Wisconsin, they were getting together for their junior prom. I think this

00:00:36.500 was back last spring, and we're just now talking about it for some reason. But they're getting

00:00:41.580 together for their junior prom, and before the prom, they were taking a picture, and whoever

00:00:49.020 took whoever was the one snapping the photo, suggested that they make what appears to be

00:00:54.580 the Nazi salute. And so they did that, and the picture was taken of these kids doing the

00:00:58.860 Nazi salute. And somehow, months later, this ends up going viral, and it's headline news.

00:01:09.500 It's on CNN. It's on all the news channels. Everyone's talking about it. Everyone is saying,

00:01:16.060 well, this shows where we are as a society, that this is an epidemic, this is a crisis.

00:01:21.080 And now we're told that the police, a police department in Wisconsin, the local police

00:01:28.960 department, they are assisting the school district in investigating the photo. There is now a police

00:01:35.200 investigation of inappropriate hand gestures made by high school students in a junior prom photo.

00:01:42.520 And the crazy thing is that I've seen this reported at several different places. I've seen it on social

00:01:49.320 media about the police investigation. And from what I've seen, almost nobody is pointing out

00:01:56.420 how crazy that is for the police to be. Nobody is even questioning. Like, is that really a police

00:02:03.380 matter? What crime is committed here? It's a stupid, ugly, offensive photograph that these kids took,

00:02:12.520 and they should be in trouble with the school. They should be, they should, they should get detention 1.00

00:02:16.300 at, at, at the very least. If we want to talk about suspensions, well, that's up to the school

00:02:20.320 district to decide. But clearly there should be some, there should be some penalties, even though this

00:02:24.800 didn't happen on school property. Um, but what, what's the police's role here? What, what, what, what,

00:02:31.040 what are they going to pull each one of these kids in, have them in the interrogation room,

00:02:35.080 do the good cop, bad cop routine to investigate what we already know what they did. You could see

00:02:40.800 the photo. Yes. They, it appears they made the Nazi salute. Yes. That is offensive. Yes. It's ugly.

00:02:45.500 Yes. It's stupid. Yes. It's outrageous. And you know something. And I just want to, I want to tell 1.00

00:02:51.000 you something about, about, uh, high school boy boys here. This is something that apparently a lot of

00:02:55.920 people seem to forget or seem not to realize somehow that, um, it's a, it's a stupid, offensive, 1.00

00:03:04.980 outrageous, bad thing. That's why the high school boys did it because they think it's funny. Okay. 1.00

00:03:14.200 So if they get it into their heads, that something will be really offensive and will cause, cause a

00:03:19.320 ruckus and will upset people. They're going to do it for that reason. Not because they, they

00:03:25.900 are expressing support for Nazi ideology. Maybe some of these kids, maybe some of these 16 year

00:03:31.220 old boys really are dyed in the wool Nazis, but I tend to doubt it. I think most likely none of them

00:03:37.480 are Nazis. I think most likely if they were, you know, none of them are attending neo-Nazi rallies or

00:03:42.940 anything like that. I think that's very likely that none of them are in that category. They just

00:03:47.240 realize that it's an offensive thing. And so in their teenage boy brain, they say to themselves,

00:03:52.740 this is offensive. So it's going to be funny. And so they do it. That that's the calculation

00:04:00.000 that teenage boys make. It's not appropriate. It's immature. They should be taught a lesson.

00:04:05.860 Uh, they should be disciplined by the school, but it's not a crime. It's not headline news for

00:04:11.180 goodness sakes. And it's not something that everyone in the country needs to be concerned about.

00:04:16.840 And it's also not something that we can take and extrapolate from that some sort of national

00:04:23.420 emergency. But that of course is what the left is doing. And they're saying, well, this, you know,

00:04:29.220 you start getting the hot takes and the think pieces about, you see, this shows you what's really 0.95

00:04:34.560 going on in white America and that they're all a bunch of Nazis. It shows, it shows you no such 0.65

00:04:39.260 thing. All it shows you is the immature calculations of this, of a 16 year old boy's brain. And again,

00:04:47.560 that calculation is offensive, stupid equals funny. That's the calculus. It's a very simple calculus. 1.00

00:04:55.240 And, um, oftentimes it can lead high school boys in bad directions. I I'm going to tell you something,

00:05:02.140 and I don't mean to scandalize anybody here, but I, this is actually not the first time high school

00:05:08.940 boys have made inappropriate hand gestures in a photograph. It's not the first time high school

00:05:13.400 boys have foot have, have, have taken photographs doing inappropriate things in general. This is a

00:05:18.920 favorite pastime of high school boys because they think it's funny. That doesn't make it right. That

00:05:24.460 doesn't mean they shouldn't be disciplined, but it does mean that it's insane for the police to be

00:05:29.680 involved. And it does mean that there is no reason whatsoever for this to be national news,

00:05:34.560 because this is something we should, we should all already know about high school boys. Okay. Um,

00:05:40.480 I'm not supporting the photograph. I am simply saying that it's, it's maybe a little bit of

00:05:46.780 proportionality could, could come in handy here. You know, we, we, we have very little, we have,

00:05:52.460 we have a lot of trouble keeping things, having a proportional view of things and, um, whatever the

00:05:58.820 latest controversy is, we, we automatically said, well, this is the most important thing in the world

00:06:03.200 right now. And everything is a crisis. Everything is an emergency. Everything is a symptom of some

00:06:08.400 greater problem and blah, blah, blah. Uh, we have no understanding of human nature. We especially have

00:06:14.900 no understanding of the ways that of, of, of the way that teenage boys operate. We just, we, we, we,

00:06:20.340 have lost all sense of that altogether. And, um, and so it leads to absurdities like this. So I think

00:06:27.980 everyone just needs to calm down. All right. Um, something else I wanted to, uh, one other quick thing

00:06:32.880 before I get to the, to the meat of, um, the discussion today, Democrats in the house are

00:06:38.480 now saying that they're not going to try to impeach Brett Kavanaugh, the man that they claim 0.94

00:06:42.960 is a serial rapist. Representative Nadler, who's the ranking Democrat in the house judiciary committee 0.89

00:06:47.760 told CNN state of the union on Sunday that he does not plan to go down that road. Of course,

00:06:52.840 he's not going to go down that road because he knows that there's nothing down that road for them

00:06:55.840 to find except for more embarrassment and, and for themselves. Um, obviously the, the, the democratic

00:07:03.280 witch hunt against Brett Kavanaugh did hurt the Democrats in the midterms, especially in the

00:07:07.520 Senate, but it did hurt them nearly as much as it should have. I mean, we don't know exactly how much

00:07:12.120 it hurt them, what it, what the results would have been had they not gone through that whole smear

00:07:16.100 campaign, but I think it's clear that it did, but not as much as it should have. Um, almost the entire

00:07:21.320 Democrat party, uh, on the federal level was complicit in this scheme to take these fabricated

00:07:29.400 allegations and destroy a man's life or try to anyway, just to keep them off the Supreme court.

00:07:34.840 As I've been saying now for weeks, it's, it was one of the most dishonest, um, smear campaigns

00:07:42.500 that I think we have ever seen in American political history. And I, and I know that that is

00:07:48.680 saying quite a bit, but I also think that it's true in this case. And therefore the consequences

00:07:56.220 for the Democrats should have been, um, far reaching and long lasting, but they really aren't.

00:08:05.140 You know, they, they're suffering some consequences, but not nearly to the extent and the level that

00:08:09.960 they should suffer those consequences. And this is the problem I think with the way things work now

00:08:13.960 is that we move on from things so quickly, partly because of the story I mentioned right at the

00:08:18.560 top that there's a lot of stories like that. These, these stupid irrelevant stories that have 0.96

00:08:23.380 no relevance to anyone's life outside of the, uh, outside of the individuals actually concerned 0.99

00:08:28.740 in the story itself, but no relevance to anyone else. There's really nothing for any of any of us

00:08:34.220 to say about it other than to wag our fingers and say, well, that's not good. I mean, that's all you

00:08:38.180 can read. That's all the analysis that is necessary or that can really be offered is you shouldn't do

00:08:42.620 that. Okay. Let's move on. Um, but there's, there is a never ending supply of those kinds of dumb

00:08:48.920 stories. So we're always just moving on to the next thing. Even if the thing that we're on right 0.98

00:08:55.280 now is actually important and, and we should spend more time talking about it. We can't because,

00:09:01.840 you know, a high school boy made an inappropriate hand gesture. So we, so we got to move on to the next

00:09:05.820 thing. And we, we should, we should, we should be clear about this, that our, um, capacity, our,

00:09:13.080 our willingness to always move on to the next thing, to, to never really hold anyone accountable

00:09:17.780 anymore. Uh, this, this is not, this does not stem from forgiveness. I wish that I could say that

00:09:23.620 it did, you know, that it was at least well-intentioned. So we're a very forgiving people. So that's why,

00:09:28.740 yeah, the Democrats orchestrated this terrible campaign and they're, you know, they, they, um,

00:09:34.440 they conspired amongst themselves to take these fabricated allegations, so on and so forth.

00:09:42.120 Um, I, I wish that we could say, well, well, yes, well, we just, we, we, we, we forgive them for

00:09:47.340 that. Now I don't think we should forgive them for that, but at least I could say, well, then it's

00:09:50.840 at least well-intentioned, but that's, this is not forgiveness. This is just, nobody can stay focused

00:09:56.340 on it. We have the, we just don't have the attention span for it anymore. And that's why I think that,

00:10:02.380 um, we may be living in a time where career ending political scandals no longer exist. I think we

00:10:09.100 may be living in a way we're living in a post scandal society because anyone could basically

00:10:15.920 survive any scandal if they managed to hang on through the initial storm for, you know, a few days,

00:10:21.800 if they can just hang on through that, which, which, which indeed can be a very intense time

00:10:27.420 because when we are focused on a particular story, we're extremely focused on sometimes too focused

00:10:32.980 on it. Uh, but then we can't, it doesn't last. It's just a bright burning star and, and it just

00:10:40.160 goes away. It explodes. It goes away very quickly. Um, Trump is famous for saying that he could shoot a

00:10:47.980 guy on fifth Avenue and his supporters would stick by him. Well, I think that's true of pretty much

00:10:52.520 everyone these days. Uh, you know, nobody has the capacity to continue caring about something for

00:11:00.400 more than four or five days. So I think it's true of pretty much, pretty much any politician can

00:11:04.180 survive any scandal. It's not just, it's not just Trump. It could shoot a guy on fifth Avenue. It's,

00:11:08.800 it's any other politician could. And, uh, because we're just going to move on and forget about it and

00:11:12.960 move on to the next thing. And this, I think segues nicely into the, the main, uh, topic that I'd

00:11:19.740 like to discuss because somebody else in the world has benefited greatly from this dynamic

00:11:25.180 recently. And that would be Pope Francis. Now in another time, in another era, I think we would

00:11:32.440 still be talking about the fact that the Pope was accused in writing in detail by an archbishop

00:11:39.900 and former high ranking Vatican official of personally and deliberately ignoring and even

00:11:45.500 helping to cover up the sexual predations of a high ranking cardinal. That is a huge story

00:11:51.280 that in a, in a, in a different decade, in a different era, we would still be talking about

00:11:56.120 that even though it's been a few months, um, since it originally came out. It is, even if we don't

00:12:02.500 treat it like it, it is one of the biggest stories of the decade easily. And, and without, without

00:12:09.520 question, the biggest religious news story in a very long time, whether you're a Catholic or not,

00:12:14.640 the Pope is an extremely powerful man, an extremely influential figure, and he's the head of a

00:12:19.960 religion that claims over a billion adherents. So this is big stuff. This is big news. And then

00:12:25.640 Vigano, Archbishop Vigano, um, the man who wrote the original letter, he's, he's gone on to write

00:12:30.420 several more letters that have gotten no attention whatsoever, but he's elaborated on his accusations

00:12:34.960 and given more detail, provided more detail. So these are credible, documented allegations,

00:12:41.820 uh, that he, that he is, he is not backed down from, he swears by them. And to this day, the Pope

00:12:49.540 has not answered the accusations. He has not responded. He has not denied them. He hasn't said

00:12:56.960 anything about them other than to accuse those of us who want answers of essentially being in league

00:13:02.320 with the devil. That's what he said. Just the regular, regular lay Catholics who are concerned about

00:13:09.320 this and who would like to know what's going on. We are, we, you know, we are victimizing him. We're

00:13:16.020 victimizing the Pope. That's, that's essentially what Pope Francis has said multiple times. And now,

00:13:22.340 um, and now the story yesterday, um,

00:13:27.320 is that, well, we should back up for a minute. There's a, there's a, a U S bishops conference

00:13:34.920 happening in Baltimore, um, as we speak. And it was scheduled for November 12th to, uh, to November 14th.

00:13:45.340 And what the bishops were supposed to be doing is, um, they're supposed to come up with,

00:13:52.360 you know, come up with a strategy to deal with the scandals and to deal with all the sex crimes in

00:13:58.560 the church and everything. It's supposed to come up with a new code of conduct. Um, they were supposed

00:14:03.280 to develop a, a body of, of people to investigate bishops accused of misconduct. And it was supposed

00:14:11.540 to be a lay led body. That is a body that is led not by other bishops, but by lay people.

00:14:18.880 And so they had a whole agenda of things that they were supposed to be doing, um, during this

00:14:24.360 conference, actual results, right? An actual strategy, a plan. And people who are cynical,

00:14:32.040 like myself, we already doubted. Um, we, we were very skeptical that they would actually come forward

00:14:39.860 with any kind of real, uh, solid active plan to address the problem. But now we know that

00:14:48.860 there's not going to be any plan because orders came from on high orders came from the Vatican,

00:14:56.160 um, to cancel the vote that the bishops were supposed to hold on sex abuse reform measures.

00:15:04.580 The Vatican has now told the bishops not to have any vote on it and not to come up with any plan,

00:15:10.900 uh, or at least not to vote on any plan, not to institute anything. He would, they were told to

00:15:17.540 cancel it. And the story is, well, they're going to meet again in a few months, uh, you know, over in

00:15:23.900 Rome. And then maybe then they'll come up with a plan. I mean, this is, it's, it's, it's absolutely

00:15:33.440 incredible. I mean, you see how, just how angry people are, especially ordinary lay Catholics 1.00

00:15:42.820 demanding answers. And so finally the bishops are getting together. They're supposed to come

00:15:47.560 up with a plan. And then the Vatican swoops in at the last minute and says, come up, don't come up

00:15:52.440 with a plan. Actually no plan. Um, now I suppose it's a good time to mention that there's going to

00:15:59.380 be a rally in Baltimore this afternoon to coincide with the bishops conference, which is, which is

00:16:03.980 still ongoing, even though there's no point of the bishops conference anymore, because what's the

00:16:08.620 point? Why do they all get together if they're not going to come up with a plan, but there is going

00:16:13.620 to be a rally to protest, uh, the scandal and corruption in the church and to demand a plan

00:16:19.220 to demand answers, accountability. I'm going to be speaking at the rally. Uh, I have a lot to say

00:16:25.980 about it. I'm not going to give my speech here, but I will say my gloves are off, even though my

00:16:33.040 gloves are off. I never have gloves on. My gloves are always off as I'm sure you've noticed.

00:16:36.340 Um, so I'm not going to, I won't get into the whole diatribe here. I'll save that for,

00:16:42.480 for the rally, but I will say this Pope Francis was sold to us, um, by the media as a reformer,

00:16:52.480 you know, as a guy who would get in there and do things differently and, uh, and clear the deck

00:16:58.620 and all that stuff. And he is no such thing. Pope Francis for, for, for all of the, despite

00:17:05.340 despite his reputation as this, you know, as this, uh, Pope who goes by the beat of his own drum

00:17:14.680 and isn't afraid of controversy and all that stuff, despite that he is no reformer. He is

00:17:20.620 a defender of the status quo. That's, that's what Pope Francis will really go down in history as

00:17:25.360 is a, he is a, a valiant defender of the status quo. And that's a huge problem because the status quo

00:17:33.660 in the church right now and in the hierarchy is terrible, but that's what he's interested in

00:17:39.920 is defending it and keeping it in place.

00:17:42.040 And as, as, as we have found out, according to Vigano, um, not just keeping it in place, but making

00:17:50.400 it worse, taking, um, some of the most corrupt cardinals in the world, like McCarrick and in,

00:17:59.000 in, in, in, rescuing them from obscurity to, from the obscurity that he had been, he had been

00:18:05.300 exiled to by Benedict, plucking him out of that obscurity and installing him back into positions

00:18:13.360 of, uh, of power and influence in the church. That's what Pope Francis has done. And it is shameful

00:18:19.480 and it is disgraceful. So Catholics are left wondering, what are they to do? And, uh, and to 0.85

00:18:28.160 anyone who is not a Catholic, I think it may be helpful for you to understand just how this all

00:18:33.060 breaks down because if people ask me all the time, they don't really understand the dynamics of,

00:18:36.720 of, uh, of the church and, you know, how Catholics deal with this and what we're allowed to say about

00:18:43.420 it. Well, we're allowed to say whatever we want about it. Um, but there are, I should tell you,

00:18:49.320 there are a few schools of thoughts among Catholics with respect to how we should approach this issue

00:18:55.120 and how we should approach, uh, the Pope and how we should frame our criticisms of him or whether we

00:19:01.940 should criticize him at all. So there are a few schools of thought and I'll tell you what the

00:19:05.400 schools are. Um, the first school of thought is more of a school of unthought. It's a school of

00:19:11.740 no thought. And these are the Catholics who don't really care, don't know what's going on. Don't have 1.00

00:19:16.680 any clue. Uh, couldn't care less. And this is probably the largest school in Catholicism, at least

00:19:22.120 in America, just as it's the largest school in every group, every religion, every demographic,

00:19:27.680 every denomination, the largest group's always going to be the, uh, the, the unthinking lemmings 1.00

00:19:33.220 who just go along with the flow. And there are plenty of those among Catholics. The next group 0.99

00:19:39.200 would be people who, who love Francis and love what he's doing. They love his liberalizing approach.

00:19:47.020 And so they're willing to overlook or deny or outright lie about the things that Francis

00:19:53.560 is doing wrong. And they will. And, and, and what I've discovered, especially recently is that these

00:19:58.580 people are, are especially shameless. They, they, uh, they will make absolute fools of themselves. 0.99

00:20:06.620 So for instance, Pope Francis is, is accused credibly of, of doing this horrible thing, 0.98

00:20:13.900 helping to cover up these crimes and sins of a high ranking cardinal refuses to say anything to this

00:20:20.640 day has, has, has remained silent. Well, the Pope's liberal defenders have tied themselves into

00:20:26.600 pretzels, trying to justify the Pope's silence and trying to kind of, um, trying to sort of

00:20:34.420 intellectualize and moralize his silence. So if you go online, you can find these, these beautifully

00:20:41.700 written, but totally bogus and ridiculous explanations by liberal Catholics, trying to, trying to, 0.92

00:20:49.220 to, to, to, to show us the real meaning behind Pope Francis's silence. His silence is, no, it's not, 0.93

00:20:56.140 it's not cowardly science, silence. Um, it's not the silence of a, of a man who just doesn't care

00:21:02.500 that, um, that the people in his church are, are, are severely distraught over all this. No,

00:21:11.040 it's not the silence of that. It's not the silence of uncaring. It's not the silence of cowardice.

00:21:14.760 It's, it's a courageous silence. It is a, it is a prayerful, uh, deep, profound silence. You know,

00:21:22.800 so we have to, it is, it is, it is, it is like the, or, or, or another thing they'll say is it's like

00:21:29.060 the silence, um, of Jesus when he was questioned by Herod. Now, both of these explanations are terrible.

00:21:37.360 The first one is just stupid. The second one is to, is to suggest, well, you're, you're making Pope 1.00

00:21:43.980 Francis Jesus in this scenario. And then Herod is who Herod are, so the lay Catholics who just want 1.00

00:21:50.500 an explanation or want to know what's going on there, they're Herod now you're comparing them to

00:21:54.520 Herod. Um, so there's that group. And then the next group are people who, uh, who, who believe that

00:22:02.760 it's their duty as Catholics to defend the Pope, not Francis specifically, but the Pope, whoever it

00:22:08.600 is, the papacy. Um, they believe that it's improper, if not sinful to publicly criticize church

00:22:14.540 leadership. Um, they know that the Pope is not infallible in all of his pronouncements and that

00:22:21.080 Popes have only issued infallible decrees very rarely in the history of the church. And then only on 1.00

00:22:25.840 matters of preexistent doctrine. In other words, not to invent new doctrine, but to re-affirm, reinforce

00:22:32.240 re-affirm, codify existent doctrine. So they know that, but they feel kind of instinctively that

00:22:39.120 they're called to support everything the Pope does anyway. And they're very uncomfortable with

00:22:43.220 the idea of criticizing them. And so there are people like that in the church. The next group are

00:22:47.820 people who, um, won't defend the Pope, but do feel that it's their duty to remain silent, obediently,

00:22:53.800 and say nothing. So there's that group as well. And then there's the next school of thought.

00:22:57.740 This is where I am situated. And, uh, in that group, there are those who have great respect

00:23:05.880 for the office, the offices of leadership in the church, but we do not feel called.

00:23:13.980 We do not feel obligated to sit silently in the face of corruption. Um, we think that the laity must

00:23:22.500 speak up, must make their voices heard, must defend the truth, defend what is right, even if it means

00:23:30.260 defending truth and defending rightness against the Pope himself. So if the Pope is threatening what is

00:23:38.500 true and what is right, then we defend what is true and right against him, against anyone,

00:23:45.840 against anyone who would threaten, against anyone who would deny it, against anyone who would try to

00:23:51.220 cover up the truth. So there is that group in the church. And I think it's a group that is growing

00:23:56.720 in numbers. And then there's the final group, which, uh, I don't even, you can't really say

00:24:01.060 that they're in the church, but there's a group, um, that I'm certainly not a part of a group called

00:24:04.500 the set of acentists. And they think that Francis isn't, is not a legitimate Pope. Anyway, we haven't

00:24:10.820 had a legitimate Pope in many decades. They say different things about who was the last legitimate Pope.

00:24:16.520 They kind of decide, um, they seem to all decide on their own who they think was legitimate and who

00:24:21.740 wasn't. But so there's that group as well, more, you know, kind of a fringe group, very small.

00:24:26.920 Now the, the sort of unthinking fans of Francis who actively defend him, dishonestly defend him,

00:24:34.240 no matter what, I have no respect for that position. I find it disgraceful, honestly,

00:24:38.860 and cowardly, and I have nothing good to say about it. The visceral defenses of the Pope generally,

00:24:44.300 of whoever happens to be the Pope, I think this is very much the wrong approach too.

00:24:50.020 And it is also less and less tenable in modern times. You know, to me that, that, that mindset,

00:24:56.400 um, is it's, it is a holdover from the middle ages and it just doesn't work anymore because,

00:25:03.380 you know, back in the old days, if you were a Catholic, um, sitting in a church in Spain or France

00:25:11.960 or whatever, you know, hundreds of years ago, you really wouldn't have known what was going on

00:25:19.440 in Rome. You wouldn't have known what the Pope was doing, saying, you know, you, you, you would,

00:25:24.900 you would have every once in a while, you get a pronouncement, you get a decree, you get whatever.

00:25:29.520 Uh, and usually you would hear those pronouncements, they would be read to you in church or something,

00:25:34.280 but you would hear them, those things would come out at the conclusion of some kind of controversy,

00:25:42.620 some sort of unrest, some sort of dispute. And so you're hearing about the controversy,

00:25:48.860 the dispute after it's already been settled. And that's just how it was before the information age.

00:25:53.700 Um, but we now live in a time where, um, where we know about all these things. We know what's going

00:26:01.940 on. We know what the church is doing. Um, we know about these scandals. We know about the corruption.

00:26:08.600 We know about Vigano's testimony. We know all of that. We have that knowledge. We can't pretend we

00:26:14.360 don't know it. And I know that there are many people in the church who would like to pretend they

00:26:17.660 don't know it, but they can't because we do. And so we have to do something. And it's true that

00:26:23.540 there's not, you know, there, there isn't one step that we can take. There's no

00:26:30.380 switch that we can flip to fix the problem. But I do think we could start at the very least with,

00:26:37.940 with speaking up and making it clear that we are not okay with this. That at the very least is step

00:26:44.240 one. And that's what today, the rally in Baltimore is going to be about. So if you're, if you're a local

00:26:50.080 and you want to come out to that, um, I hope to see you there. Otherwise I'll talk to everybody

00:26:53.520 tomorrow. Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - November 13, 2018

Ep. 142 - Pope Francis Is No Reformer

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