The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1430 - A Court Finally Answered The ‘What Is A Woman’ Question — And They Got It Wrong

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, after a trans-identified male sued for access to a women's-only app,

00:00:04.580 a court in Australia had to issue a formal ruling officially defining the word woman.

00:00:08.800 It's no surprise that the court managed to somehow get the answer wrong, however.

00:00:13.060 Also, RFK Jr. shakes up the race in a major way by endorsing Trump.

00:00:16.480 Trump comes out for reproductive rights, quote-unquote.

00:00:19.340 I'll play another clip from my upcoming movie, Am I Racist?

00:00:21.780 This one is very painful, I'm warning you.

00:00:24.300 And the host of the most popular podcast in the world for women must be canceled today, unfortunately. 1.00

00:00:29.400 All of that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.

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00:02:11.520 More than two years after the release of my film, What is a Woman?

00:02:15.240 It's still impossible to get a straight answer to that question from gender activists, liberal professors, political commentators, really anyone on the left.

00:02:23.700 They might call you weird for asking the question or call you a transphobe or call the police.

00:02:28.340 But whatever they do, they won't respond in any meaningful way to a question that throughout all of human history up until very recently

00:02:34.060 has been extremely easy for every living person to answer.

00:02:38.200 And they won't tell you the truth, which is that a woman is an adult human female. 0.82

00:02:43.100 Instead, they'll tell you that the definition of a woman is whatever you want it to be, whatever they want it to be. 1.00

00:02:48.860 One of the many reasons this approach isn't sustainable is that it's extremely important,

00:02:53.380 obviously, from a practical perspective, to have a functional definition of the word woman.

00:02:59.320 This isn't some abstract philosophical exercise.

00:03:02.980 We need a definition of the word woman in order to interpret our laws, including the various pieces of civil rights legislation that have been passed over the years. 0.89

00:03:11.640 But despite that fact, there haven't been a lot of court cases addressing this issue head on.

00:03:18.220 Instead, major legal battles concerning gender ideology have primarily focused on the area of so-called trans medicine.

00:03:24.380 And the legal issues in those cases, including the landmark Sixth Circuit case upholding Tennessee's ban on child castration,

00:03:31.080 are about the degree of supposed consensus in the medical field on the issue of whether children should be sterilized.

00:03:37.480 And they're about the rights of parents to decide what physicians do to their children.

00:03:41.240 But they're not really about this fundamental underlying issue, which is the most basic question of all,

00:03:47.880 which is what it means for someone to be a woman or a man.

00:03:51.500 But that is changing very quickly.

00:03:55.280 Courts overseas are being forced to issue rulings on the definition of womanhood.

00:03:59.260 And unsurprisingly, they are, in many cases, having difficulty conjuring up the right answer.

00:04:05.720 They're coming up with political rulings instead.

00:04:09.480 The most recent case arrives to us from the perpetually confused country known as Australia,

00:04:14.080 where the federal court has just made a landmark decision in a lawsuit by a man who claims to be a woman

00:04:20.900 and who now uses the name Roxanne Tickle. 1.00

00:04:24.720 So here's the background.

00:04:26.780 In February of 2021, Roxanne Tickle downloaded an app called Giggle for Girls, 0.96

00:04:32.760 which was advertised as a way for women to speak to other women exclusively. 1.00

00:04:37.960 It was specifically promoted as an online refuge by Giggle's CEO,

00:04:42.980 who said that she created the app as a kind of a safe environment for women

00:04:46.920 after she suffered some form of sexual abuse in the past. 0.69

00:04:49.480 So, yes, this case is quite literally Tickle v. Giggle.

00:04:54.940 It may sound like an episode of Teletubbies, but it is actually a real court case in Australia.

00:05:01.180 Now, initially, an AI program at Giggle looked at Roxanne Tickle's profile picture

00:05:05.900 and concluded that he was probably a woman.

00:05:09.020 So, Tickle was allowed into Giggle. 1.00

00:05:12.660 But a few, I mean, how can you talk about this and take it seriously when you have to say sentences like Tickle was allowed into Giggle?

00:05:19.640 But that's what's going on.

00:05:20.880 I mean, that's what can we do?

00:05:23.000 A few months later, somebody at Giggle took a closer look and concluded that Roxanne Tickle was, in fact, a man

00:05:29.280 and that this fact was blindingly obvious to anybody who looked at his picture.

00:05:34.440 So, Roxanne Tickle was banned from Giggle, which led him to sue the company for sex discrimination. 0.89

00:05:41.340 And ultimately, Tickle won.

00:05:43.540 Now, Australia's federal court decided that Tickle, which this is the person now, not the app,

00:05:50.240 decided that Tickle is, in fact, a woman. 1.00

00:05:52.720 So, the app, Giggle, has to pay tens of thousands of dollars in fake damages.

00:05:58.800 And Giggle, in case you're looking to download it, is apparently offline at the moment,

00:06:03.040 although it's supposed to relaunch again sometime soon.

00:06:06.520 At its peak, it had around 20,000 users, so it was never a particularly large platform.

00:06:10.180 Now, it's impossible to go any further in discussing this case without showing some footage

00:06:14.600 of what Roxanne Tickle actually looks and sounds like.

00:06:18.560 So, here's a news report that gives you some idea.

00:06:22.640 Here it is.

00:06:23.740 The federal court has ruled the exclusion of a transgender woman from a female-only app

00:06:28.540 constituted unlawful discrimination.

00:06:31.180 In 2021, Roxanne Tickle joined the social network Giggle for Girls, 1.00

00:06:35.620 designed as an online refuge for women.

00:06:37.660 Her identity was initially verified by the app, but was later restricted by a manual override.

00:06:44.440 Giggle's CEO, Sal Grover, denied discriminatory conduct.

00:06:48.580 However, Justice Robert Bromwich today found indirect gender identity discrimination had occurred.

00:06:55.180 I'm pleased by the outcome of my case,

00:06:57.940 and I hope it is healing for trans and gender-diverse people.

00:07:02.440 The ruling shows that all women are protected from discrimination.

00:07:07.660 So, that's Roxanne Tickle for you. 1.00

00:07:11.640 I mean, it looks very much like the sort of person who would choose the name Roxanne Tickle for himself.

00:07:17.620 And this is one of those situations where, you know,

00:07:21.200 you obviously don't need a 50,000-word federal court decision

00:07:25.940 to figure out if Roxanne Tickle is a man or a woman.

00:07:29.940 So, how exactly did the Australian federal court arrive at their decision?

00:07:37.400 By what definition of woman does Roxanne Tickle qualify, according to them? 0.99

00:07:42.620 Now, if you pull up the decision, not surprisingly,

00:07:45.040 you're not going to find an answer to that question.

00:07:46.920 Instead, you'll find what appears to be the first major court decision

00:07:49.700 that officially defines woman to mean whatever the court says it means. 0.98

00:07:54.340 Quoting from the court's ruling,

00:07:55.900 sex is not confined to being a biological concept,

00:07:58.140 referring to whether a person at birth had male or female physical traits,

00:08:01.320 nor confined to being a binary concept, limited to the male or female sex,

00:08:05.000 but rather takes a broader ordinary meaning informed by its use,

00:08:08.360 including in state and territory legislation.

00:08:11.540 Now, I should pause here and let you know what you probably already assumed,

00:08:14.000 which is that, you know, the court just claimed that there are more sexes besides male and female,

00:08:18.560 but never at any point does the court name what those other sexes are. 0.73

00:08:23.540 This is very common.

00:08:24.400 In fact, out of all the people who tell us that there are more than two sexes,

00:08:28.040 precisely none of them have ever told us what the other sexes are.

00:08:32.280 I don't even need you to list all of them.

00:08:33.960 Name, like, one other.

00:08:35.840 If it's not just binary, there's at least a third, so name me the third.

00:08:41.600 Their answer is, well, just trust me, bro.

00:08:44.000 There are other sexes.

00:08:45.860 There are.

00:08:46.420 Now, stop asking questions.

00:08:49.820 The court continues, quote,

00:08:51.120 the determination of the sex of a person may take into account a range of factors,

00:08:54.580 including biological and physical characteristics, legal recognition,

00:08:57.380 and how they present themselves and are recognized socially.

00:09:01.620 So, in other words, according to the federal court in Australia,

00:09:04.180 legislation and legal recognition determines your sex now,

00:09:08.340 along with other factors,

00:09:10.880 including what other people think you are and how you present yourself.

00:09:14.160 So, if you're recognized socially as a woman,

00:09:17.500 then you're probably a woman, is what they're saying. 0.71

00:09:18.960 Of course, the problem is that if the definition of woman is

00:09:22.160 someone who is socially recognized as a woman,

00:09:25.320 we still have no idea what a woman is. 1.00

00:09:28.060 Socially recognized as what, exactly?

00:09:30.240 What is the thing that they're being recognized as?

00:09:32.800 And why does social recognition matter?

00:09:36.120 I thought that it didn't matter.

00:09:37.100 I thought the whole point was that it didn't,

00:09:38.260 that the society can't define you and all that kind of stuff.

00:09:42.220 Now, as far as I can tell,

00:09:43.180 the court never polled all of Australia for its opinion

00:09:46.600 on whether Roxanne Tickle qualifies as a woman.

00:09:49.860 They apparently didn't ask anyone, in fact.

00:09:51.900 So, really, the court never determined that Tickle was recognized socially as a woman.

00:09:56.940 That factor didn't come into play.

00:09:59.540 In truth, what the court is saying is that Roxanne Tickle is a woman 0.99

00:10:03.040 because the court says so.

00:10:05.380 They're not conducting any social analysis of how people perceive this person.

00:10:09.520 Not that an analysis like that would be relevant anyway,

00:10:11.840 but they're not doing it.

00:10:13.700 Specifically, the court said that back in 1984,

00:10:15.840 Australia's parliament passed a law called the Sex Discrimination Act,

00:10:18.980 which protected women from discrimination.

00:10:20.640 But the law never explicitly defined the word woman 0.89

00:10:22.600 because everybody knew what it meant at the time.

00:10:25.460 There was no reason to do it.

00:10:27.860 Everyone knows what the word is.

00:10:29.800 So now, a few decades later,

00:10:31.300 the court unilaterally says that you're a woman 0.99

00:10:33.260 if the court says you're one

00:10:34.740 after weighing a few factors that the court invented.

00:10:38.980 They just kind of read that into the law.

00:10:41.780 The court decides what a woman is. 1.00

00:10:44.040 And although the court still cannot say what a woman is, 1.00

00:10:46.860 they decide what a woman is. 1.00

00:10:48.480 That's the ruling.

00:10:50.380 In effect, Australians are being commanded by their court system

00:10:52.960 to ignore their common sense,

00:10:55.880 which is informed by their knowledge of basic human biology.

00:10:59.520 They're being asked to ignore their own laws as well.

00:11:03.440 And instead, they're commanded to obey the ad hoc wisdom

00:11:06.100 of the federal court system.

00:11:08.900 A woman is anyone the court says is a woman. 1.00

00:11:10.760 That's all.

00:11:11.260 End of story.

00:11:12.680 This decision is going to be appealed to Australia's highest court.

00:11:15.200 But at the moment, that's the precedent that has just been set.

00:11:19.040 Now, we don't have any kind of landmark cases like this

00:11:22.020 in the United States, at least not yet.

00:11:23.400 But courts in this country are still proceeding

00:11:25.520 on the same principle.

00:11:27.580 This is a case that the Daily Mail first reported on last month,

00:11:30.360 although it's just starting to get attention now.

00:11:33.080 A family in Maryland lost custody

00:11:34.900 of their 16-year-old autistic son

00:11:36.860 because they refused to pretend that he was really a girl.

00:11:39.920 Apparently, the teenager went through a difficult breakup

00:11:42.680 with his girlfriend and attempted suicide in November of 2021.

00:11:45.760 He told his friends at the time that he was LGBT,

00:11:49.520 but still used masculine pronouns as far as anyone knew.

00:11:53.220 But instead of treating this teenager as an individual

00:11:56.160 suffering from grief over a breakup

00:11:58.280 and probably other emotional and mental health problems as well,

00:12:03.220 instead of that, Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C.

00:12:06.760 reportedly determined that the boy suffered from gender dysphoria

00:12:11.120 and was really a girl.

00:12:13.620 Now, it's not clear how they came to that conclusion

00:12:15.500 or how much the hospital influenced that diagnosis.

00:12:20.500 And then, according to the Daily Mail,

00:12:21.740 the hospital, quote,

00:12:22.960 used its emergency policies to keep the boy in its unit

00:12:26.260 and reported the parents to child protective services.

00:12:29.900 And this went on for more than a month,

00:12:32.140 at which point the child was then forced into foster care

00:12:34.760 with a single mother who reportedly has

00:12:36.420 a previous criminal record for assault.

00:12:38.980 And then in July of 2022, the boy attempted suicide again.

00:12:42.820 And this time, the hospital took him back as a, quote, unquote, girl.

00:12:47.260 Now the boy's parents are suing Children's National Hospital

00:12:50.180 and the legal battle is apparently still underway.

00:12:52.960 It's been going on for two years now.

00:12:54.240 The child is now 19.

00:12:56.160 And there's conflicting information about whether this lawsuit is still active.

00:12:59.040 The hospital told the Daily Mail that it's been withdrawn by the parents.

00:13:01.720 The parents deny that.

00:13:03.280 The court filings in this case are sealed because it involves a minor.

00:13:06.440 But reportedly, the Fourth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals is now handling it.

00:13:10.540 So that's where that stands.

00:13:11.400 But as it stands now, the lawsuit focuses extensively

00:13:14.460 on the hospital's non-gendered chaplain, Lavender Kelly,

00:13:19.440 who's supposedly overseeing their child's care.

00:13:22.140 In fact, Kelly is reportedly responsible for finding the child his first foster home.

00:13:27.700 And who is Lavender Kelly exactly?

00:13:29.640 Well, here's a photo of a, quote, unquote, Lavender Kelly.

00:13:34.920 And surprising absolutely no one, Kelly is a gender ideologue and an LGBT activist.

00:13:43.240 The Daily Mail reports that Lavender Kelly posted on Facebook in 2022

00:13:46.200 that children should be transitioned without their parents' consent if necessary. 0.91

00:13:51.120 And you might be wondering what a children's hospital,

00:13:54.900 why they would employ somebody like this,

00:13:57.880 who's clearly focused more on activism than medicine.

00:14:00.700 But as we know, many children's hospitals, including Children's National,

00:14:03.980 are activist operations now.

00:14:06.880 I mean, if the name Children's Hospital is,

00:14:08.980 if you're remembering this institution from a couple of years ago,

00:14:12.560 this is the same hospital that told Libs of TikTok on the phone

00:14:15.940 that they perform, quote, gender-affirming hysterectomies on 16-year-olds and, quote, younger kids.

00:14:21.880 That's an act of barbarism that even so-called trans health care providers, quote, unquote, 1.00

00:14:27.080 many of them typically shy away from, at least in public.

00:14:30.540 Because publicly, it's too much, even for them.

00:14:33.980 But it's not too much for Children's National and their non-gendered chaplain. 0.99

00:14:38.980 This is the kind of hospital that apparently gets to decide

00:14:41.260 whether the government can take your child from you.

00:14:45.520 Now, the only way that horror stories like this happen

00:14:47.940 is if courts allow them to happen unilaterally.

00:14:52.080 There's no law in this country that allows hospitals to take your son away

00:14:55.660 because the hospital says your son is really a girl.

00:14:57.860 Just like there's no law in Australia that says a woman is anyone who says they're a woman.

00:15:02.660 But courts increasingly have no problem inventing new laws to this effect out of the blue

00:15:09.520 and then enforcing them.

00:15:12.280 Rather than answering the question, what is a woman? 1.00

00:15:14.580 The judicial system is punishing people who actually have a working definition.

00:15:18.600 It's taking their kids away in some cases and doing it to very little fanfare.

00:15:23.880 As I said, that story of Maryland broke last month

00:15:26.160 and it's only now really starting to circulate in social media from what I've seen.

00:15:30.560 What that means is that as easy as it may be to hope

00:15:35.160 that Australia's completely unscientific and arbitrary understanding of gender

00:15:39.060 won't be adopted by judges in this country,

00:15:42.060 the truth is that in at least one case so far, it already has been.

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00:17:09.000 All right, so yesterday we released a sneak peek of another scene of my new film, Am I Racist,

00:17:15.240 premiering September 13th.

00:17:16.640 Tickets on sale at miracist.com.

00:17:19.180 And in this scene, you'll get a look at my experience at a race-to-dinner event.

00:17:23.960 And race-to-dinner is something, if you've never heard of it, run by two women, 1.00

00:17:27.640 Syrah Rao and Regina Jackson are their names.

00:17:29.880 And the whole idea is that white women pay these two other ladies to come to dinner and 1.00

00:17:36.100 call them racist for two hours, which, you know, if that sounds like a splendid time to

00:17:42.380 you, well then, as far as I know, race-to-dinner is still running, so you can set up your own

00:17:46.520 dinner and pay for it.

00:17:48.240 Now, I was not able to attend the dinner because I'm not a woman, and that is actually a rule

00:17:55.580 that they enforce.

00:17:56.340 Of course, you know, as we know, as we just covered, they couldn't tell you what a woman 0.96

00:18:00.360 is, but they do enforce it.

00:18:02.500 So, you know, I had to find some other way to get in the room.

00:18:08.280 And really, you know, I wanted to earn my seat at the table as part of this journey that

00:18:14.620 I was on in the film and am still on, as you know.

00:18:19.340 And so in this scene, you'll see it's not the entire race-to-dinner experience, but it's

00:18:24.720 a little chunk of it, and you will see, crucially, the moment when I do, in fact, earn my seat

00:18:31.420 at the table, whether the other people at the table like it or not.

00:18:34.280 Let's watch. 0.93

00:18:34.680 I used to be a white woman, an unsuccessful one, for many decades, and it was a miserable 0.99

00:18:41.240 experience.

00:18:42.160 And really, the hatred of yourselves and each other is, like, the most, the not seeing your

00:18:48.120 power, the being afraid.

00:18:49.800 Like, all you do is talk about each other, talk about yourself.

00:18:52.700 Oh, my God, I'm so fat.

00:18:54.140 That's all they do.

00:18:55.680 I'm telling you.

00:18:56.420 These white women? 1.00

00:18:56.880 But it's, it's, that's it. 1.00

00:19:00.120 It's, I'm so fat, I'm so stupid, I'm blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:19:04.700 Sorry. 1.00

00:19:11.420 Your kids are watching you, and they're watching you talking about each other, you know, raging

00:19:17.020 against the machine or being silent or whatever the hell it is that you're doing or not doing,

00:19:20.880 and they know that you're not doing for them.

00:19:22.920 That's so important.

00:19:23.660 That is so important, what you just said.

00:19:26.880 It's, it's really important.

00:19:30.800 That's all.

00:19:31.240 We may have to add you to our team.

00:19:33.080 Oh, I would love to take a seat and join you.

00:19:35.440 No, you're not allowed to.

00:19:36.920 Okay.

00:19:37.280 Definitely not allowed.

00:19:38.460 Okay, I do have my, I have my DEI certification that I, that I got.

00:19:43.280 So, not saying I'm an expert, but I'm also not a novice, so, okay.

00:19:49.620 White people are starved for these conversations. 0.97

00:19:51.500 We are, we're so starving. 0.90

00:19:52.760 Yeah.

00:19:53.280 We are so starving for this.

00:19:55.540 Anyone else?

00:19:56.880 You want to say anything?

00:19:58.920 I'll just say one thing.

00:19:59.880 I'm so glad we can have these conversations, and I'll, and I'll be done.

00:20:02.340 But, uh, I'm just so glad that we could all get together to have these conversations.

00:20:07.320 Thank you.

00:20:08.080 That's all I wanted to say.

00:20:08.520 Is he an actor?

00:20:09.660 Are you an actor?

00:20:11.400 Oh, no.

00:20:11.740 Can you let us, we're trying to listen and trying to have this conversation.

00:20:14.840 Okay, you know, we're all acting all the time in our lives, and, uh, and I think that that's

00:20:20.540 part of the problem, you know?

00:20:23.660 That it's like we're all trying to play a part rather than just being real and having

00:20:26.620 these uncomfortable conversations.

00:20:28.620 And that's what I'm always trying to tell people, especially, you know, white women.

00:20:31.820 No offense. 0.62

00:20:32.200 No, but see, like, you're a white dude.

00:20:34.920 There's power positions, and, uh, you know, it's, uh, pointing, pointing, white people 0.73

00:20:41.480 pointing fingers at each other is not helpful.

00:20:43.840 You know, I've been on this journey for so long, and just to see you guys at the table

00:20:47.860 having this conversation has been really enlightening for me.

00:20:52.260 Anyway, got the DEI certification, and I'm just on the journey.

00:20:56.700 All right, you ladies have a great day. 0.99

00:21:04.920 Decolonize yourself.

00:21:08.380 Do your own white supremacy dismantling, and then you can start to bring in other people.

00:21:16.760 Can I just, can I just say one last thing?

00:21:18.420 Can I just propose a toast?

00:21:20.540 Uh, I mean, just raise a glass if you're racist, and that's the thing.

00:21:26.700 Cheers.

00:21:27.300 Oh, I'm not racist.

00:21:28.320 Let me do that.

00:21:28.780 Well, all the rest of it.

00:21:31.980 To racist.

00:21:37.020 Am I racist?

00:21:38.200 Rated PG-13.

00:21:39.280 Buy tickets now.

00:21:41.560 Um, good, you know, nice toast at the end there.

00:21:45.320 I was glad that they would take part in that with me.

00:21:48.060 I don't have much, I don't want to say much else about the scene, because I want you to

00:21:50.700 watch the movie and see it, and so I'm not going to explain anything else.

00:21:53.560 Um, it does, if that was painfully uncomfortable, then the entire experience is even more so.

00:22:02.560 Only thing I will stress, again, is that, uh, yes, this is all real.

00:22:06.200 Race to dinner is a real thing, and those women are really attending. 1.00

00:22:10.320 Uh, there are no actors in the clip, except for me, as I was accused of being anyway.

00:22:14.440 Um, so it's all real.

00:22:17.600 I went, you know, we, this, we went into these environments in, in real life, and, uh, everything

00:22:22.880 you see is, is unscripted entirely.

00:22:27.940 Um, and, uh, as it might be, it's hard to believe some of it.

00:22:32.540 It's hard to believe, especially that events like that can even exist.

00:22:37.020 It's like, you, you see that, and you think, well, that's, there's no way that that looks

00:22:41.560 like something from, you know, it's a, you can see it as a scene in a movie, but people

00:22:44.920 don't do that in real life.

00:22:45.840 They do, they do.

00:22:46.740 That's a, that's a real, those people really exist.

00:22:49.340 They're out there right now, walking around.

00:22:52.860 Believe it or not.

00:22:54.240 All right, the, uh, the big political news on Friday, RFK Jr. endorsed Donald Trump.

00:22:59.440 He, uh, came out of a rally in Arizona and threw his support behind Trump.

00:23:03.840 Huge moment.

00:23:05.740 How much will it help Trump in the polls?

00:23:08.640 I have no idea.

00:23:09.860 That's my analysis.

00:23:10.800 I don't know.

00:23:12.020 Uh, I will guess, I would guess that it would help him noticeably, significantly.

00:23:17.900 RFK Jr. has a large and devoted following.

00:23:20.160 Not large enough for him to have won himself, but certainly large enough, I would think, to

00:23:26.420 be a real asset to Trump when added to Trump's much larger following.

00:23:30.860 But I've also said many times that I'm backing out of the political prediction game.

00:23:35.540 I'm not making any official political predictions.

00:23:38.400 I, I, uh, I especially don't want to officially predict that RFK Jr.

00:23:44.860 will help put Trump over the top because my predictions are always wrong.

00:23:48.980 So if I officially predict that, it's not going to happen.

00:23:51.720 Um, I would only say that from my vantage point, it seems rather clear that,

00:23:56.420 his support will, um, will, will be a very big help.

00:24:01.720 Now, RFK Jr.'s family, his siblings, I think, seem to be worried that he's, that this is going

00:24:10.720 to help Trump in a big way, which is why they put out, uh, a statement after RFK Jr.'s

00:24:17.080 endorsement condemning, condemning, condemning him for it, um, and saying that, uh, that

00:24:24.420 RFK Jr.'s endorsement of, of, uh, of Trump is a betrayal of the family.

00:24:31.620 It's a, a sad story, uh, and all these kinds of other things.

00:24:37.200 Um, so first, before we talk about that, actually, RFK Jr.

00:24:41.280 himself responded to his family condemning him on Fox News yesterday.

00:24:45.820 So let's watch that first.

00:24:47.880 This decision is not without personal cost for you.

00:24:50.900 Um, your own family went to the White House on St. Patrick's Day, took a huge picture with

00:24:54.460 President Biden, made clear who they were supporting.

00:24:56.860 Friday night, your siblings issued this statement.

00:24:58.960 We believe in Harrison Waltz.

00:25:00.480 Our brother Bobby's decision to endorse Trump today is a betrayal of the values that our father

00:25:05.160 and our family hold most dear.

00:25:06.700 You posted on X Friday night saying, uh, you're grateful to your amazing wife because the decision

00:25:11.300 that you've, uh, made is one that she's uncomfortable with.

00:25:14.080 So talk to us about the personal backlash you have to deal with.

00:25:18.620 Yeah, I mean, you know, my family is at the center of the Democratic Party.

00:25:23.220 I have five members of my family that are working for the Biden administration.

00:25:28.300 President Biden has a, a, um, a bust of my father behind him at the Oval Office.

00:25:34.460 He's been a family friend for many, many years.

00:25:36.580 And, and my family is, I understand that they're troubled by my decisions, but, you know, I love

00:25:44.440 my family.

00:25:45.440 I feel like we were raised in a milieu where we were encouraged to debate each other and

00:25:52.400 debate ferociously and passionately about things, but to still love each other.

00:25:56.700 So, you know, they can, um, they're free to take their positions on these issues.

00:26:02.240 There are many, many members of my family who are working in my campaign, who are supporting

00:26:07.940 me.

00:26:08.260 I have a very big family.

00:26:09.620 There's a few of them that are, are troubled.

00:26:13.400 But, you know, I think we all need to be able to disagree with each other and still love

00:26:17.760 each other.

00:26:19.340 So that was a very gracious response.

00:26:21.220 And one thing I'll say about RFK Jr. is that he, he seems like a decent person.

00:26:24.940 He seems like a good man.

00:26:26.380 I disagree still with many of his political views because he's, he's still quite liberal

00:26:33.460 on most things, but he gets some very important things, right?

00:26:38.200 And he seems like a good guy and a, and a morally and politically courageous person as

00:26:43.940 well, as we can see here. 0.99

00:26:45.680 His siblings, on the other hand, are a bunch of disgusting, slimy, gutless snakes. 0.99

00:26:51.400 I mean, attacking your own brother publicly because of a political disagreement is just 1.00

00:26:56.900 inexcusable.

00:26:59.160 I, I'm trying to imagine a situation where it would actually be justified and necessary

00:27:06.800 to denounce a member of your own family publicly.

00:27:11.800 I'm sure there are scenarios where, where that would be justified.

00:27:15.620 But off the top of my head, I can't think of anything.

00:27:17.460 Off the top of my head, I cannot think of a scenario where it would actually be okay

00:27:22.840 or necessary to come out publicly and denounce your own family member.

00:27:25.540 Now, I can imagine plenty of actually terrible things a member of your family could do.

00:27:31.460 But even in those situations, do you need to publicly denounce them for it?

00:27:37.660 Um, and certainly if we can come up with scenarios where that might be necessary, uh, you know,

00:27:48.580 your brother endorsing someone you don't like for president definitely isn't one of those

00:27:53.460 scenarios because there should be almost nothing that would make you turn your back on your

00:28:01.660 family publicly, which isn't to say that you can't, um, doesn't mean that you have to publicly

00:28:07.380 agree with everything that somebody in your family does.

00:28:09.420 It doesn't even mean that you can't, uh, publicly disagree necessarily with positions that they

00:28:15.380 take, but denouncing is a whole other thing.

00:28:18.240 And, uh, and the funny thing is that they accuse RFK Jr. of betrayal, but that's exactly what

00:28:23.940 this is. RFK Jr. having the political views that they don't agree with.

00:28:30.020 That's not a betrayal.

00:28:30.780 That's just him.

00:28:31.580 He's, he's his own man, but denouncing your brother publicly, that is a betrayal of just

00:28:37.940 the lowest kind, just absolutely despicable behavior.

00:28:45.480 Um, but overall, uh, very good news for Trump that RFK Jr. is, uh, on his team.

00:28:52.060 Um, let's move to something not so good for Trump, actually quite bad.

00:28:58.300 Uh, Trump posted this on truth social on Friday.

00:29:01.100 This was, uh, just really a couple of hours before the RFK Jr. endorsement.

00:29:05.020 He posted this, my administration will be great for women and their reproductive rights. 0.97

00:29:13.720 End of statement.

00:29:16.960 This is, uh, just bad on every level.

00:29:21.420 It's the wrong move.

00:29:23.120 It's the wrong thing to say on every level.

00:29:27.400 Um, there's no way to approach this that makes it seem like the right thing.

00:29:34.540 Now, first of all, on, on, on the merits, morally speaking, we should never be legitimizing

00:29:40.720 the concept of reproductive rights.

00:29:42.680 Um, so-called reproductive rights is an idea invented by baby killers for baby killers to 1.00

00:29:48.880 justify baby killing. 0.98

00:29:50.140 And that's it.

00:29:52.100 Um, and before the baby killing movement, nobody was going around talking about reproductive

00:29:56.700 rights.

00:29:57.160 It didn't exist as a concept.

00:29:58.680 So this is a concept that was invented purely for one reason and one reason only, which is

00:30:06.100 to justify the murder of babies and morally you cannot legitimize it or offer any support

00:30:10.920 for it whatsoever.

00:30:11.540 But, you know, there will be people on the right.

00:30:14.380 I know who, who, um, will hear me say that make the moral argument.

00:30:19.640 And they'll say that they'll say that I'm being a purist, right?

00:30:21.560 That I'm engaged in some kind of, uh, this is, this is a purity.

00:30:26.920 I'm going to, I'm in a purity spiral right now because I'm saying this and they'll say,

00:30:31.380 Hey, we have to win an election and I need to get off my high horse because this is politics.

00:30:35.280 And this is what politics is all about.

00:30:36.640 And, uh, and, uh, Trump can't do anything.

00:30:41.440 He can't, he can't enact, uh, any policies.

00:30:44.020 He can't enact pro-life policies unless he gets an office and he has to get an office.

00:30:47.100 And so you got to do what you got to do to get there.

00:30:50.320 That'll, that'll be the argument.

00:30:53.420 And politically, I'm, that argument is persuasive to me in most cases, if it's true, right?

00:31:05.060 If it's true that there's, you know, there's like a game, you got to, there's a game you

00:31:09.600 got to play.

00:31:10.200 There's a line you got to walk just so you can get into office and then do all the things

00:31:15.980 that we want you to do.

00:31:17.180 Um, if it's true that, so that's, that's compelling to me.

00:31:22.740 And what I mean is there'd be very few cases where I would just say, you know what, even

00:31:29.360 if it's politically suicidal, uh, I need the candidate to say this or take this position

00:31:35.160 because politics doesn't matter.

00:31:38.380 No, I'm well aware that in a political campaign, of course, politics matters.

00:31:42.140 It's a campaign.

00:31:44.680 Um, you could say it's like when it comes down to it, it's all that matters because if you

00:31:48.740 don't win, you have to win, you have to win first.

00:31:50.800 And if you don't win and nothing else matters politically.

00:31:53.480 But the problem is that this isn't good politics either.

00:32:02.900 Okay.

00:32:03.760 So politically, what do you achieve by endorsing reproductive rights?

00:32:10.360 Whose votes are you winning?

00:32:14.240 Let's start with this, just basic reality here.

00:32:17.840 The vast majority of women who will only vote for a pro-abortion candidate are not going 0.99

00:32:25.240 to vote for Trump, no matter what.

00:32:28.720 Trump could hold a campaign inside of Planned Parenthood.

00:32:32.120 He could, he could be inside one holding a campaign.

00:32:36.200 Okay.

00:32:36.840 He could kick JD Vance off the ticket and put the, the CEO of Planned Parenthood as the new

00:32:42.840 vice president.

00:32:43.780 And it wouldn't matter for the vast majority of these kinds of voters.

00:32:47.840 They hate Trump.

00:32:48.760 They will never not hate him.

00:32:50.880 And if they care that much about abortion, well, then why vote for Trump when, when you

00:32:55.960 could just vote for a lifelong pro-abortion woman, right? 0.99

00:33:01.080 So for the vast majority of these voters who care that much about abortion, like you have

00:33:04.460 Kamala Harris, you can't out abortion Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:33:09.520 If anyone cares that much about abortion rights or quote unquote reproductive rights, there's

00:33:14.420 no reason why they wouldn't just vote for Kamala.

00:33:16.680 She's the real deal on abortion. 1.00

00:33:18.960 Now she's not the real deal on like anything else, but on abortion, she loves it. 1.00

00:33:23.100 She always has.

00:33:24.960 When she talks about how she spent her whole life protecting abortion rights, that's actually

00:33:29.120 true.

00:33:29.740 That's like the one true thing she says.

00:33:31.500 So, um, for the majority of these kinds of voters, they have Kamala Harris, right?

00:33:39.740 She's the abortion queen. 1.00

00:33:42.060 You can't, you're not going to siphon off votes by, by, uh, uh, just saying the phrase

00:33:49.000 reproductive rights. 0.98

00:33:50.240 Because the, almost everyone who's impressed with that phrase, they have Kamala Harris. 0.79

00:33:58.980 Again, this is when she was attorney general of California, she actively defended Planned

00:34:05.520 Parenthood as they were selling the body parts of murdered children. 0.95

00:34:09.260 And she sent in law enforcement officers to arrest the journalists who exposed it.

00:34:14.620 I mean, that's how much this woman believes in, uh, in child sacrifice. 1.00

00:34:18.660 So that's the case for the huge majority of pro-abortion voters.

00:34:24.740 You cannot win them, period, no matter what you say about abortion. 0.68

00:34:28.600 Okay, well, like, we got to start with that reality.

00:34:30.180 It just, it's just true.

00:34:33.060 Um, what about the people closer to the middle?

00:34:35.700 You know, what about the voters who generally like Trump, don't like Kamala, but they also

00:34:41.700 care about reproductive rights, so-called? 1.00

00:34:45.280 Because that's really what we're talking about.

00:34:46.800 That, that, when you, when you make a play, when Trump comes out and says, I'm, I'm for

00:34:50.660 reproductive rights, you're making a play for a very specific voter. 1.00

00:34:57.560 It has to be a voter who, again, generally likes Trump, or at least is okay with him, generally

00:35:02.140 doesn't like Kamala, but cares about so-called reproductive rights.

00:35:08.660 That's it.

00:35:09.280 That's the whole demo that you're potentially appealing to.

00:35:13.100 How big is that group?

00:35:14.380 How big is that group?

00:35:17.400 I, I mean, I, I'm not going to say that that group doesn't exist.

00:35:20.920 I think it does exist, but I'm not sure I've ever personally met in my life the voter who

00:35:28.560 would vote for Trump if not for the abortion issue.

00:35:33.520 I'm told these voters exist.

00:35:35.240 I, I've never spoken to one or met one in my entire life.

00:35:38.680 But whatever, sure, they exist.

00:35:42.220 They do.

00:35:42.620 In some number, they exist.

00:35:45.360 Well, the question is, first of all, are they going to even buy Trump's sudden passion for

00:35:52.160 quote unquote reproductive rights?

00:35:54.700 And then second, this is the biggest question.

00:35:56.460 Are these people more numerous than the pro-life voters that you alienate with this kind of

00:36:04.660 language?

00:36:05.080 In other words, does Trump end up with a net gain making a play like this?

00:36:10.700 Does he gain enough of the pro-Trump, pro-abortion vote, wherever the hell that vote exists, does

00:36:21.340 he gain enough of that vote to make up for the pro-life voters that are just like utterly

00:36:27.740 demoralized and alienated by the Republican presidential candidate endorsing reproductive

00:36:34.600 rights in those words?

00:36:36.200 I think the answer is definitely not.

00:36:41.560 Definitely, definitely not.

00:36:44.080 Politically, the risk of coming out for quote unquote reproductive rights is that the small

00:36:48.620 number of people you might win over with a tweet like that will be dwarfed by the voters

00:36:54.800 that you demoralize.

00:36:57.620 And sure, a certain portion of the demoralized voters will still vote for you because they

00:37:03.100 recognize, rightly so, that you're still a lot better than Kamala Harris, but some of

00:37:09.940 them won't.

00:37:10.920 I mean, demoralized voters, that's not what you want, right, on election day.

00:37:16.900 So that's, so again, just looking at this politically, I mean, you can't, if your answer

00:37:24.760 is, hey, it's politics, man, stop with the purity stuff, I think it's bad politics.

00:37:28.780 I think it's bad morally, I think it's bad politics.

00:37:33.440 I don't see the political win here.

00:37:37.200 Now, all that said, it is true in a literal sense that conservatives and pro-lifers support

00:37:45.200 quote unquote reproductive rights. 1.00

00:37:47.680 If we were to actually define both of those words the way that they are really defined,

00:37:57.380 reproductive and rights, and we were to understand the term reproductive rights correctly in a

00:38:03.340 definitional sense, then it would be true that actually, yeah, as a pro-lifer, we believe

00:38:11.700 in reproductive rights, because understood correctly, reproductive rights must mean two 0.98

00:38:19.520 things.

00:38:19.980 First, the right of a woman to decide when she reproduces, and yeah, we affirm that, right? 0.96

00:38:27.360 Of course we do.

00:38:28.120 A woman should never be forced to reproduce, because reproduction happens at conception. 1.00

00:38:35.380 And biologically and scientifically, reproduction is conception.

00:38:40.020 That's when reproduction occurs, which is why abortion actually has nothing to do with 0.97

00:38:46.420 reproductive rights, so-called, because reproduction's already happened. 0.97

00:38:50.440 It's too late for that.

00:38:53.060 No pro-lifer believes that a woman should be forced to conceive, but once she does conceive,

00:38:59.900 once reproduction has already happened, you cannot kill the human that has been produced.

00:39:05.400 And if you do, you're not exercising reproductive rights.

00:39:10.680 It's too late for that.

00:39:11.480 Reproduction has happened already.

00:39:14.780 Which is why, as I've explained many times, when a woman gives birth, okay, we don't say

00:39:22.480 at the moment of birth that that is reproduction.

00:39:27.500 Does a woman reproduce when she gives birth? 1.00

00:39:29.840 No, of course not.

00:39:30.620 She reproduced before that.

00:39:34.540 I mean, you can't give birth unless you've already reproduced.

00:39:36.960 There has to be, you know, a person there to give birth to. 1.00

00:39:42.500 So reproductive rights could mean that if we were like an honest country and we used words

00:39:47.920 in the way that they're supposed to be used.

00:39:49.880 You could also talk about reproductive rights from the vantage point of the child.

00:39:53.840 That the child that has been produced, the child that is the result of reproduction, 0.95

00:39:59.540 has the right to be born.

00:40:02.880 So you could mean reproductive rights that way.

00:40:05.980 And either of those senses of the term would be valid, definitionally.

00:40:11.460 Much more valid than the way that the term is used by the pro-abortion side.

00:40:15.780 But the problem is that, like, that's not right now what people mean when they say it.

00:40:23.760 Now, I would love if we could reclaim the term reproductive rights on the basis that I've

00:40:29.120 just laid out.

00:40:30.940 So that 10 years from now, when you use the term reproductive rights, everyone understands 0.67

00:40:36.420 that that's actually a pro-life point.

00:40:39.020 But we're not there right now.

00:40:40.700 We're not even close to that.

00:40:41.880 So if you just say, I believe in reproductive rights, and leave it at that with no further

00:40:47.040 explanation, 100% of everyone hears that and interprets it as, oh, you favor abortion.

00:40:55.580 So if you want to make the case, if you want to make this kind of case about reproductive

00:40:58.800 rights, then you have to make the case.

00:41:00.920 You have to make the argument.

00:41:01.840 You have to elaborate.

00:41:02.780 You can't just leave it at one sentence, reproductive rights. 1.00

00:41:06.700 Not the right road to be traveling down here at all.

00:41:12.460 Okay.

00:41:13.740 Here's a fascinating story.

00:41:15.840 AP News has this.

00:41:17.140 NASA decided Saturday it's too risky to bring two astronauts back to Earth and Boeing's troubled

00:41:21.360 new capsule.

00:41:22.640 They'll have to wait until next year for a ride home with SpaceX.

00:41:25.880 What should have been a week-long test flight for the pair will now last more than eight

00:41:29.120 months.

00:41:30.200 The seasoned pilots have been stuck at the International Space Station since the beginning

00:41:33.420 of June.

00:41:34.240 A cascade of vexing thruster failures and helium leaks in the new capsule marred their trip to

00:41:38.640 the space station.

00:41:39.800 And they ended up in a holding pattern as engineers conducted tests and debated what

00:41:43.400 to do about the flight back.

00:41:45.340 AP correspondent Julie Walker reports NASA will bring stranded Boeing Starliner astronauts

00:41:50.900 home on SpaceX.

00:41:51.760 SpaceX, after almost three months, the decision finally came down from NASA's highest ranks

00:41:55.900 on Saturday that they were going to come back at a SpaceX capsule in February.

00:42:01.460 So SpaceX to the rescue on this one.

00:42:07.620 And yeah, they've been trapped up there.

00:42:09.300 Or they will, when all is said and done, they will be trapped up in a space station for

00:42:13.160 eight months.

00:42:13.520 You know, one of the really interesting things about this, one of the many interesting things

00:42:18.600 when you think about these astronauts trapped in the space station, is that you have to consider

00:42:27.580 what a day actually is on the International Space Station.

00:42:32.440 Because we think of a day as a 24-hour period, but that's relative, of course.

00:42:36.200 A day is only a 24-hour period on Earth, because of the Earth's rotation on its axis.

00:42:45.180 Axis, rather.

00:42:49.360 And, you know, so in a 24-hour period, you'll experience, if you're on Earth, one sunset and

00:42:56.560 one sunrise, and that's what makes a day.

00:42:58.500 But on the space station, you actually orbit the Earth 16 times in a 24-hour period.

00:43:06.740 So you experience 16 sunrises, which means that, in effect, these astronauts will not

00:43:12.920 be in the space station for 240 days or whatever eight months is.

00:43:17.400 They'll actually be on the space station for closer to 4,000 days from their perspective.

00:43:22.560 Because that's how many, essentially, that's how many sunrises they're going to experience

00:43:30.640 in that time.

00:43:33.720 Because the space station is traveling like 17,000 miles an hour around the Earth.

00:43:39.160 And to put that in perspective, a commercial airline travels about 500, 600 miles an hour

00:43:44.160 top speed.

00:43:44.860 So the space station's going about 30 times faster than a commercial aircraft will travel

00:43:51.820 at its fastest.

00:43:53.120 So it's pretty mind-boggling.

00:43:55.400 And yet, you know, even traveling 17,000 miles an hour, that's basically a snail's pace in

00:44:01.620 cosmic terms.

00:44:03.300 Like a craft that's going that speed would take, I don't know, many, many centuries to

00:44:10.860 make it to the nearest solar system outside of our own.

00:44:13.940 That's about four light years, a light year, light travels at 670 million miles an hour.

00:44:21.100 And it takes four years at 670 million miles an hour.

00:44:24.500 It takes four years to make that trip.

00:44:26.360 So how long would it take at 17,000 miles an hour?

00:44:29.260 I don't know, but I can't do that math, but it's a long, long time.

00:44:33.160 And that's kind of the point for me with this story, that we are just so unfathomably far

00:44:39.400 from being an advanced civilization in galactic terms.

00:44:42.700 If an actually advanced civilization that can traverse space and visit other solar systems

00:44:48.740 and so on, if they were to look at us with our clunky little space station, you know,

00:44:54.760 crawling around the Earth, basically, they would view us the way that we view jungle tribes 0.99

00:45:02.280 still chucking spears at each other.

00:45:04.380 And that's why, even though these astronauts are stranded on a space station that is, I mean,

00:45:10.020 basically a stone's throw away.

00:45:11.640 Again, in galactic terms, it's a stone's throw.

00:45:13.640 It's right, it's, you know, it's like across this room, practically, in cosmic terms.

00:45:19.100 But still, it's a monumental feat and will take eight months just to bring them home from the space station.

00:45:27.840 And I don't mean that to diminish what we've achieved in space.

00:45:31.220 I just mean to emphasize how gargantuan a thing this really is, you know, to really get out into space.

00:45:39.480 That's why I always think it's dumb when, and I don't want to, you know, open up this can of worms again.

00:45:46.020 Or I don't really care if I do, to be honest with you.

00:45:47.920 But when you hear, as people so often say, well, we went to the moon in the 60s, why aren't we on Mars by now?

00:45:57.660 And sometimes you hear that sentiment just generally, but oftentimes you hear that from people that are trying to claim that the moon landing never happened.

00:46:03.920 This is like their number one piece of evidence is, we went in the 60s, why aren't we somewhere?

00:46:08.460 Why didn't we go to, why aren't we on Pluto?

00:46:12.760 Because space is really big.

00:46:15.640 Okay, that's why.

00:46:17.920 The moon is 240,000 miles away.

00:46:20.200 You know how far Mars is?

00:46:22.280 140 million miles away.

00:46:25.620 Okay, so that's why it takes a lot longer to figure out how to get there.

00:46:29.980 And to get there alive.

00:46:32.700 You know, making that trip.

00:46:34.920 I think it would take, I think the round trip is two or three years.

00:46:41.260 Being exposed to all the radiation and deep space.

00:46:45.020 All these, I mean, it's just, it's like a suicide mission.

00:46:47.920 So it's a bit like if somebody walks to the house across the street, and then you wonder why they also haven't walked to Brazil.

00:46:57.440 It's, the distances are just unthinkably vast.

00:47:00.520 And this is how, this is how long progress takes.

00:47:05.980 And, and we are just in the infancy.

00:47:08.300 So in space age terms, right?

00:47:13.260 We, we basically just invented the wheel a few decades ago.

00:47:18.480 Get it, you know, getting to the moon.

00:47:20.400 Getting to your own moon is inventing the wheel in, in terms of space travel.

00:47:25.040 And we just did that.

00:47:28.680 So, another analogy would be like finding a primitive society that just invented the wheel, and then checking back 50 years later, and expecting that they have sports cars, right?

00:47:40.420 And the internet.

00:47:42.140 It's, yeah, it takes a lot longer.

00:47:45.180 Could take thousands of you.

00:47:46.160 It could take thousands of more years before we can really travel through space in any real significant way.

00:47:54.260 Anyway, fascinating story.

00:47:56.960 My new film, The Daily Wire's first ever theatrical release, Am I Racist, is about to hit theaters on September 13th.

00:48:02.040 And we have already more than doubled the number of theaters nationwide since we announced it.

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00:48:22.480 In Am I Racist, I teamed up with the same group of white guys who blew up the leftist gender theory in What Is Woman. 0.53

00:48:27.320 Now we're taking on the weird world of DEI.

00:48:30.020 What we've uncovered is both hilarious and enraging.

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00:48:43.600 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:48:51.500 Well, I hope that you in the audience appreciate the sacrifices that I make for you.

00:48:56.160 It may not always be obvious.

00:48:57.940 Much of what I do for you is off camera, out of sight, in the shadows, in silence.

00:49:03.440 And I don't tell you about the sacrifices.

00:49:04.760 I don't come to you asking for a pat on the back for it.

00:49:08.840 I don't ask you to say thank you.

00:49:10.580 But this time I am, because I have just endured potentially the greatest suffering that I think any man in this century has ever endured.

00:49:19.520 And I did it all just so that I could record this very segment.

00:49:23.900 I listened to an entire episode of the podcast, Call Her Daddy.

00:49:28.340 Not the entire episode.

00:49:30.680 It was like two-thirds of an episode at 1.8 speed.

00:49:33.120 But I listened and I suffered.

00:49:36.360 Now, in case you aren't familiar, Call Her Daddy is a hugely successful podcast hosted by a woman named Alex Cooper.

00:49:42.200 And it's so successful that Cooper, just last week, signed a $125 million deal with Sirius to move her show over to their platform.

00:49:49.660 The show, which focuses on sex and relationship discussions, is massively popular with young women in particular.

00:49:56.300 And the reason I'm bringing it up is because of a short clip from a recent episode that has generated some conversation on social media.

00:50:01.580 But in order for me to talk about the clip, you know, I felt that I needed to understand the context, which is why I listened to most of the episode that the clip comes from.

00:50:10.800 So before I play it for you, I will give you the bullet points from this episode.

00:50:15.800 Actually, it turned out that the context really was not needed.

00:50:20.220 But I didn't listen to all that for nothing, so I'm going to tell you anyway.

00:50:23.880 In this episode, Alex recounts the very long story of how she once flew to Paris to meet up with some guy that she met on a dating app.

00:50:32.740 And it takes her about 45 hours, or felt that way, to tell this whole story, but I can summarize it in like 45 seconds.

00:50:39.420 Basically, she flew to Paris.

00:50:42.000 She met the guy.

00:50:42.820 He wasn't as attractive in person as he was in his profile picture.

00:50:46.360 They didn't connect.

00:50:47.720 They didn't like each other that much. 0.51

00:50:49.060 But she stayed with him for a week anyway and had sex with him, which she initiated.

00:50:52.660 There were other indignities that she suffered and which she describes in agonizing detail.

00:50:57.420 For example, the toilet in their Airbnb didn't flush properly, so she had to hold down the flusher for 10 seconds.

00:51:03.340 Truly the sort of trial and tribulation that few humans on Earth can comprehend.

00:51:08.040 After a week of this sort of torture, she left.

00:51:10.880 And later, she found out that the guy gave her an STD.

00:51:14.100 And that's it.

00:51:16.420 That's the whole epic tale. 0.88

00:51:18.280 She went to spend a week in Paris with a guy that she didn't know and had sex with him, 0.94

00:51:21.640 even though she didn't know him or even like him.

00:51:23.980 And she paid the price.

00:51:25.680 The end.

00:51:27.040 Now, why tell this story?

00:51:28.560 And more confusingly, why in God's name would anyone willingly by choice listen to it?

00:51:34.860 Well, that I can't say.

00:51:36.040 But it is deeply troubling to consider that apparently millions of young women sit around listening to this person 0.81

00:51:41.980 drone on and on and on about her incredibly dull, uninteresting sexual exploits,

00:51:49.320 even when there's no discernible point at the end of it. 0.78

00:51:51.820 And she never offers anything approaching an actual insight. 0.54

00:51:56.840 Women who spend their time listening to this sort of tripe cannot complain about men who watch porn 1.00

00:52:03.160 because it's the same sort of junk. 1.00

00:52:04.960 It's the same poison in your brain, just in different forms. 0.99

00:52:09.100 So anyway, all of that setup finally brings us to the clip that I want to talk about.

00:52:13.680 Here is where Alex, after taking us through the blandest, most excruciatingly dull adventure of all time,

00:52:20.360 finally answers the one question any intelligent member of the audience might have.

00:52:24.160 And that is, you know, well, that is if there are any intelligent members of the audience.

00:52:27.960 But the question is this.

00:52:28.680 If you didn't like him and you didn't want to be there, why didn't you just go home?

00:52:34.140 Let's find out.

00:52:35.600 I know all of you at home watching this or listening are like, why the didn't I just go home?

00:52:41.660 And I still to this day can't fully articulate why I didn't leave, which sadly I think is so relatable for women.

00:52:51.060 Like, why didn't you leave?

00:52:52.520 Like, you were uncomfortable.

00:52:53.820 Like, what did you think was going to change?

00:52:56.160 Like, why did you stay?

00:52:57.300 Like, I think as backwards as it sounds, because of how uncomfortable and awkward it was with this person,

00:53:03.720 I didn't know what to do other than stay and suck it up.

00:53:06.620 Like, I didn't want to make the other person feel more uncomfortable.

00:53:11.420 So I tried to, like, appease the situation and make it better.

00:53:14.980 Because staying and being miserable somehow felt easier than, like, pissing someone off and getting in this fight

00:53:21.460 and, like, leaving and acknowledging how awkward it was.

00:53:24.380 And since he wasn't saying anything, I was not going to say anything.

00:53:26.480 And, like, I don't know.

00:53:28.360 Maybe only women will understand that. 1.00

00:53:30.220 But, like, it is confusing.

00:53:32.300 And yet, like, it's not confusing at all.

00:53:33.860 Like, I feel like we've all been there where we're like, I didn't really want to do that.

00:53:36.300 Or I wasn't really into it.

00:53:37.700 But then, like, I didn't know how to get myself out of the situation.

00:53:39.820 And I'm, like, in an apartment with these two men.

00:53:41.920 And, like, he had already been being snappy.

00:53:43.820 It was just awful.

00:53:44.840 It was a bad situation.

00:53:47.840 So it's a $125 million podcast right there, what you just heard.

00:53:55.600 Now, this excuse that she gives, an excuse for shacking up for a week with a guy that she didn't know or like 0.99

00:54:01.200 and having sex with him despite being actively repulsed by him, this excuse has resonated with her audience.

00:54:07.160 Many of the Instagram comments under this video are echoing these sentiments that she expresses.

00:54:11.880 They claim that it is, in fact, very relatable for women, as she says it is.

00:54:15.080 And they say that this is why it's unfair to ask women why they don't leave uncomfortable situations.

00:54:21.120 You know, you can't ask them that.

00:54:22.560 It's not fair because women don't know how to get themselves out of those situations, according to them. 1.00

00:54:28.620 But one woman who is not praising Alex or shouting amen is Mary Morgan.

00:54:34.060 She's a commentator and host of a show called Pop Culture Crisis, which you can and should go find on YouTube.

00:54:38.460 Mary is actually interesting and insightful.

00:54:40.500 And in a just world, would be the one getting the big money contract from Sirius.

00:54:44.340 She made a very compelling point in response to this video.

00:54:47.600 And I'll read what she said on Twitter.

00:54:48.980 And then I have a few things I want to say to kind of build off of it.

00:54:51.340 But I want to give her credit for, you know, for originating this insight.

00:54:57.160 She wrote, quote, I can't give you a better explanation for how Me Too came into existence than this video right here.

00:55:03.080 Women's propensity to be highly agreeable paired with a culture that encourages promiscuity. 1.00

00:55:07.800 That's one dangerous combination.

00:55:09.760 It's unconscionable that young women rely on influencers like this one for moral guidance,

00:55:13.800 blind leading the blind.

00:55:15.780 Quoting now, she's quoting, 0.98

00:55:17.160 Women will say shit like this and wonder why the entire planet and every major religion has imposed strict social restrictions on their sovereignty since the dawn of time in every place humans have ever lived. 1.00

00:55:26.120 Close quote. 1.00

00:55:26.740 It's a meme phrase, but it's so true. 1.00

00:55:28.600 Women need authority. 1.00

00:55:29.460 They need protection from their worst impulses and from men who are dangerous and lecherous.

00:55:32.820 The death of norms like chivalry and chastity has nothing to do with women's emancipation and everything to do with women no longer holding a place of high esteem in our society.

00:55:41.960 Women are no longer regarded as creatures in need of spiritual and physical protection. 0.88

00:55:45.540 Feminists push for this to our own peril. 1.00

00:55:47.600 Now, I don't want to belabor the point, but I have to say that there's more insight in those few sentences than in the entire catalog of call her daddy transcripts combined for as long as the show has existed.

00:56:00.400 And you don't have to agree with everything that Mary said there, but this is someone that's thinking about an issue, working through it, trying to understand where we are in our culture and how we got here.

00:56:11.940 You know, like having a thought about something.

00:56:14.240 Here, I want to share a thought with you that I'm having.

00:56:16.180 That's what, like, if you're going to listen to someone blabber on a podcast like I do on this one every day, that should be your first and most essential requirement.

00:56:24.220 Does this person have any insight to offer?

00:56:26.540 Even if I don't agree, do they have an insight?

00:56:27.900 Do they have a point of view, a perspective?

00:56:31.780 I can't imagine why anybody would listen, sit and listen to someone on a podcast when the answer to that question is obviously no.

00:56:41.000 But lots of people do.

00:56:43.020 So in any case, the thrust of Mary's point is obviously correct.

00:56:46.240 The whole point of chivalry was to protect and honor women.

00:56:51.320 And men stood out in front and took the lead, assuming the role of protector and provider.

00:56:55.700 And they did this because they believed that women should be cherished.

00:56:59.660 Now, our culture today says that women don't need to be protected or provided for or cherished. 0.88

00:57:04.300 But the results of this new philosophy have categorically proven the philosophy wrong.

00:57:09.040 And it creates the kind of catch-22 you find in Alex's story or, as Mary pointed out, so many of the tales of woe we heard about during the Me Too era and before that and after it.

00:57:20.460 Because after all, what is Alex really saying here?

00:57:24.500 She's saying that she needed to be led.

00:57:28.460 She needed the man to take the lead, take the initiative, understand the situation, act decisively, and do the thing that she was too scared or too confused to do.

00:57:37.560 She needed the man to say to her,

00:57:40.220 Hey, Alex, this obviously isn't working out.

00:57:43.320 We aren't getting along.

00:57:44.560 We aren't connecting.

00:57:45.980 Let's book your plane tickets home and get you to the airport.

00:57:49.280 In fact, she really needed the man to take the lead well before that.

00:57:51.580 She needed him to be the one to say,

00:57:52.700 Hey, you know, we've never met.

00:57:54.260 We don't know each other.

00:57:55.760 Let's not plan a vacation together for a week when we don't even know each other.

00:57:59.380 Why don't we start by going out for coffee tomorrow afternoon instead?

00:58:03.360 She is confessing to being too guided by her emotions, too tentative and indecisive,

00:58:08.560 too lacking in assertiveness to say either of those things.

00:58:11.920 She needed the man to say it, the man to lead.

00:58:15.420 But she'll never say that she needed the man to lead because her feminist principles will not allow her to ever utter a statement like that under any circumstance. 1.00

00:58:22.540 And this is the same of every other feminist in the country. 1.00

00:58:24.880 But the problem is that although they will not say, I need the man to lead, they still expect it.

00:58:30.800 And they still blame him for failing to do it when push comes to shove.

00:58:35.680 And there are too many examples of this dynamic to count.

00:58:38.320 As established, the Me Too era provides us with dozens, if not hundreds.

00:58:41.320 In fact, we see an example of this kind of thing in every case where, let's say, two drunk college students hook up only for one of the drunk participants, always the female one, always, to wake up the next morning and decide that she was raped.

00:59:00.040 Right?

00:59:00.320 She was too drunk to consent, she claims.

00:59:02.780 And perhaps she was.

00:59:03.960 But then so was he.

00:59:05.340 So why is he the rapist and not her? 0.86

00:59:08.680 Why aren't they both rapists?

00:59:10.120 Better yet, why can't we admit that neither of them are?

00:59:13.000 They both did something reckless and self-destructive.

00:59:15.380 And now they feel the shame and guilt that a person ought to feel after such an experience.

00:59:19.840 Well, the answer is that all of the people looking at a mutually inebriated sexual encounter between a man and a woman and exclusively blaming the man, which is what literally always happens in these situations, are blaming him because they expect him to lead.

00:59:38.900 They expect him to be the one to take control of the ship and guide it to a safe harbor.

00:59:43.160 They expect him, not her, him, always him, to have the strength and foresight to say, hey, we've both had too much to drink.

00:59:51.320 This isn't a good idea.

00:59:52.900 And if he doesn't say that, he's blamed for his lack of leadership.

00:59:58.380 She's not blamed.

01:00:00.380 Ever.

01:00:01.540 Because you don't blame a follower for not being led.

01:00:03.960 But all of the people pointing the finger of blame will not acknowledge what they're actually blaming the guy for.

01:00:10.560 Indeed, they'll desperately deny that they want any such thing as him to lead.

01:00:16.140 So the man gets blamed for not doing a thing that the people doing the blaming actually tell him not to do.

01:00:23.280 So first they say, how dare you think that you can lead a woman?

01:00:27.440 And next thing you know, they say, how dare you not lead this woman?

01:00:30.880 Except they don't say those exact words. 0.94

01:00:32.700 Instead, in this case, they would say something like, you're a rapist, now go to prison. 0.74

01:00:36.220 Now, the feminists get to have their cake and eat it, too, while the men are stuck with the lose-lose. 1.00

01:00:42.780 If the man doesn't take the lead, he's a loser and a creep. 1.00

01:00:47.360 If he does, he's a bully, a misogynist, and also a creep. 1.00

01:00:51.820 The feminists want us to be a matriarchal, female-led society. 1.00

01:00:57.120 But they don't want any of the accountability and blame that comes with that.

01:01:02.500 Which is why you'll notice, right, not a single feminist will listen to that story from Alex Cooper and say to her, you should be ashamed. 1.00

01:01:12.220 How could you put that poor, helpless man in that awkward position?

01:01:15.480 Why don't you step up and do the right thing?

01:01:17.080 In fact, Alex says that she initiated sex with a guy who clearly wasn't that into it.

01:01:24.120 So if the feminists were consistent, they would accuse her of rape. 1.00

01:01:28.320 That's what they would do in the reverse scenario.

01:01:31.120 But they're not going to do that here.

01:01:32.600 They will not ever do that here.

01:01:34.300 Because they want the benefits of leadership with none of the responsibility, none of the pressure, none of the blame that comes with it.

01:01:42.680 Okay, it's the burden of leadership that they will not accept, which is why they can never be leaders.

01:01:52.240 And that's why a society that smashes the patriarchy ends up shiftless, stranded, and leaderless.

01:02:01.640 It's the classic cautionary tale.

01:02:04.400 It's a mutiny on the bounty, but played out in an entire civilization instead of just one ship.

01:02:08.980 The mutineers in that story staged a revolt, sent the captain out adrift in the middle of the sea.

01:02:17.200 They have control of the boat now, but there's no one fit to lead it.

01:02:21.360 All they could think about was how much they hated the captain for his leadership style.

01:02:25.280 They never considered what the alternative actually is, or that there really isn't an alternative.

01:02:29.340 Now, the feminists are the mutineers in this case, and they've taken control of a ship that they don't know how to steer, and even if they did, they wouldn't know where to steer it to. 1.00

01:02:40.700 They didn't like the idea of the man leading, but as we've discovered, they like the idea of themselves leading even less.

01:02:46.680 That's how you end up with a society in a state of decay like ours.

01:02:52.740 And it's how you end up with a woman like Alex Cooper having an extremely popular podcast.

01:02:59.540 And that is why she is today, I'm afraid to say, canceled.

01:03:03.180 That'll do it for the show today.

01:03:03.980 Thanks for watching.

01:03:04.480 Thanks for listening.

01:03:05.420 Have a great day.

01:03:06.040 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:03:06.960 Godspeed. 0.99

01:03:07.280 Republicans or Nazis, you cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people. 0.99

01:03:19.440 Growing up, I never thought much about race. 0.95

01:03:21.360 It never really seemed to matter that much, at least not to me.

01:03:24.020 Am I racist?

01:03:25.200 I would really appreciate it if you left.

01:03:26.480 I'm trying to learn.

01:03:27.200 I'm on this journey.

01:03:28.480 If I'm going to sort this out, I need to go deeper undercover.

01:03:32.740 They don't say I'm racist.

01:03:34.020 Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.

01:03:37.700 Here's my certification.

01:03:38.760 What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness. 0.71

01:03:41.560 This is more for you than this for you.

01:03:42.540 Is America inherently racist?

01:03:44.100 The word inherent is challenging there.

01:03:46.080 I want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument.

01:03:49.220 America is racist to its bones.

01:03:51.100 So inherently. 0.99

01:03:51.960 Yeah, this country is a piece of...

01:03:53.620 White folks. 1.00

01:03:56.120 Trash. 1.00

01:03:56.600 White supremacy. 1.00

01:03:57.380 White woman. 1.00

01:03:57.960 White boy.

01:03:58.500 Is there a black person around here?

01:03:59.800 What's a black person right here? 0.86

01:04:01.100 Does he not exist? 0.92

01:04:01.880 They're going to say I'm racist.

01:04:03.720 Hi, Robin.

01:04:04.460 Hi.

01:04:04.800 What's your name?

01:04:05.740 I'm Matt.

01:04:06.240 I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful.

01:04:08.860 Never be too careful.

01:04:09.760 They're going to say you're racist.

01:04:10.680 Buy your tickets now in theaters September 13th.

01:04:13.080 Rated PG-13.

The Matt Walsh Show - August 26, 2024

Ep. 1430 - A Court Finally Answered The ‘What Is A Woman’ Question — And They Got It Wrong

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