The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 144 - Scam Artists (Michael Avenatti) Get Their Comeuppance

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Wall Show, Michael Avenatti is arrested for domestic abuse.

00:00:03.960 Also, the city of Detroit wants to take Ben Carson's name off of a school of science and medicine,

00:00:09.920 even though Ben Carson is one of the greatest medical professionals in American history.

00:00:14.020 And a viral GoFundMe campaign has been exposed as an elaborate conspiracy and hoax and scam.

00:00:21.180 So what should that teach us about donating to GoFundMe campaigns?

00:00:24.440 We'll talk about all that coming up.

00:00:30.860 Well, it's snowing here. I don't know if you can see. I guess you probably can't see it in the camera.

00:00:35.660 It looks like I'm broadcasting from the gates of heaven, from the glare.

00:00:40.380 But no, it's snowing. My kids are going nuts over it, of course.

00:00:45.320 I mean, they're going absolutely insane, running around the house screaming that it's snowing over and over and over again

00:00:52.300 and reminding me, in case I forgot, nothing shows the sad disparity between childhood and adulthood

00:00:59.020 quite like snow.

00:01:01.300 Because I can remember being a kid and seeing how my parents were usually pretty bummed about snow.

00:01:08.260 And I remember thinking just how sad and pitiful they were.

00:01:12.980 That how could you, how could you, it's like the time when my dad told me, I'll never forget this.

00:01:17.560 My dad told me once, I don't know how it came up, but he said that if he had a choice between going to Disney World

00:01:25.420 or taking a nap, he would rather take a nap.

00:01:29.680 And I was so scandalized by that as a child for so long.

00:01:33.460 I couldn't, because I just thought, is that really what it's like to be a grown-up?

00:01:39.200 I mean, you'd rather take a nap than go to Disney World?

00:01:42.320 Well, but now I'm a grown-up, and yeah, I would definitely take a nap over going to Disney World.

00:01:47.120 And it's kind of the same thing with snow, even though I always thought.

00:01:51.040 Because here I am as an adult, and I do, I like the look of snow, at least when it's falling,

00:01:56.160 but it's not worth the shoveling and the icy roads and so on and so on.

00:01:59.280 But my kids right now, and this is what I wish that they would understand, what I try to tell them,

00:02:03.540 they're at the perfect age right now for pretty much everything.

00:02:09.440 Because they're old enough to enjoy things, to go out and have fun,

00:02:13.880 but they're not old enough to have any real responsibility yet.

00:02:17.100 So that is a very small window of time.

00:02:19.900 That's a window of time that's like, I don't know, three, four, five years or something,

00:02:24.640 where you've got this window of time where you can really enjoy your surroundings

00:02:27.560 and you can enjoy activities, but you don't really have any responsibility.

00:02:31.820 And that's right there.

00:02:34.100 That window of time, that's when you basically are going to have all of your fun in life is right there.

00:02:41.100 So just squeeze it all in because it's downhill from there.

00:02:46.500 And I think that's probably why kids at a certain age, they never walk.

00:02:51.220 They run everywhere because they really are just trying to fit in.

00:02:54.740 They hate sleeping.

00:02:55.700 They hate sitting down.

00:02:56.560 They hate sitting down for meals because they just want to get all the fun in.

00:02:59.240 I guess they realize at some level that right now is the time to have fun.

00:03:05.500 And then pretty soon they're going to have sidewalks to shovel and bills to pay.

00:03:10.120 Okay.

00:03:11.340 I'm going to do things a little bit differently today.

00:03:13.000 I have several stories I wanted to talk about.

00:03:14.700 So I'm going to go through each and talk about each of them briefly.

00:03:18.660 First, this thing with Michael Avenatti.

00:03:20.900 Michael Avenatti has been arrested on felony domestic violence charges.

00:03:25.280 Now, there's been a lot of spiking of the football by conservatives over this news.

00:03:35.420 And that's understandable at a certain level because Avenatti is, of course, a lowlife.

00:03:44.540 But we should remember that apparently a woman was hurt here.

00:03:48.160 She was, according to the charges, she was abused.

00:03:51.920 And so it's a sad story because of that.

00:03:53.960 So it's not something we should react gleefully to because of the fact that somebody was hurt, apparently.

00:03:59.840 But as far as Avenatti himself is concerned, look, here's the thing.

00:04:04.560 I'm a believer in the presumption of innocence.

00:04:09.120 That is a bedrock principle of our justice system.

00:04:12.420 It is a bedrock principle of justice itself, justice in general.

00:04:16.640 You have to have the presumption of innocence.

00:04:18.740 But at the same time, I know that Avenatti is not personally a fan of the presumption of innocence.

00:04:25.540 So I feel like it's only fair to abide by his preferences and assume that he's guilty as hell.

00:04:32.940 Okay?

00:04:33.440 Because that's what he wants.

00:04:35.500 That's what he would want, right?

00:04:37.580 He's made it very clear.

00:04:39.280 He made it clear when he was representing Julius Swetnick that he really, really doesn't believe in presuming innocence.

00:04:45.460 He's not a fan of that.

00:04:47.220 He's also made it clear that we should believe all women.

00:04:49.860 So, again, out of respect to him, I mean, out of deference to his wishes, I feel like we should assume he's guilty.

00:04:58.220 It's only fair.

00:04:59.220 It's the respectful thing.

00:05:01.700 Okay?

00:05:02.060 To do, to look at this according to his own preferences.

00:05:07.200 So that's what I'm going to do here.

00:05:10.380 For his own sake, I will assume that he's guilty.

00:05:15.520 Another story from yesterday, the city of Detroit is apparently moving forward or moving toward taking Ben Carson's name off of the Benjamin Carson High School of Science and Medicine in Detroit.

00:05:33.700 Now, why are they going to take it off?

00:05:38.020 Well, because, of course, he's a Republican, he's a conservative, and he works for the Trump administration.

00:05:42.420 So that's why they're going to take the name off.

00:05:44.640 Why was his name ever on the school to begin with?

00:05:47.980 Well, that's because he's a Detroit native.

00:05:50.920 And he also happens to be one of the most accomplished surgeons in American history.

00:05:57.440 So that seems like a really good reason to have his name on a school of science and medicine.

00:06:03.260 The fact that he's one of the most accomplished, one of the greatest medical professionals in the history of the country, so you've got his name on the school of medicine, that makes a lot of sense.

00:06:12.720 Because how many success stories like Carson does Detroit really have to its name in recent decades?

00:06:23.020 It would seem like they don't really have the luxury to be picky choosy, right?

00:06:29.100 I mean, you had one of the greatest medical professionals in history graduate from your school system in Detroit.

00:06:35.440 You should be trumpeting that fact everywhere.

00:06:37.220 You should name the whole city after him.

00:06:40.100 Just to simply survive the Detroit school system is impressive enough, but to survive it and then go on and do what he did, well, you're not going to find very many who can match up to what he accomplished.

00:06:51.340 Yet his name is coming off the building.

00:06:53.760 So there are two things to notice here.

00:06:55.020 First of all, once again, we see how, and this is the way it works now in society, we see how a person's entire identity, their worth as a person, is judged by their political and ideological leanings.

00:07:10.220 Ben Carson had a whole career, a historic storied career in medicine before he dipped his toes into politics.

00:07:19.200 Nobody can ever take that away from him.

00:07:21.380 That will always be there.

00:07:22.720 But now we say, well, unless you agree with me on politics, unless we have the same ideological opinions, then everything else you've done in your life is meaningless.

00:07:34.160 That's essentially the strategy now.

00:07:36.860 And I think it's horrible.

00:07:39.680 And the second thing, of course, we see is this effort to rewrite history, which now is reaching absurd heights.

00:07:46.040 I mean, it was bad enough when they were going and they were going back to tearing down the Civil War monuments and taking people's names off of buildings who were alive back in that era.

00:08:00.580 But now, I mean, Ben Carson is still alive, and we've got to rewrite history, and in Detroit, they're going to pretend this should be one of their greatest sons of Detroit.

00:08:13.780 And they're going to pretend now that he doesn't exist.

00:08:16.500 I think it's just a horrible trend, but there's no end in sight to it.

00:08:23.320 Okay, here's a cautionary tale that I think we need to talk about.

00:08:30.380 Reading now from the Daily Wire, it says,

00:08:34.120 You probably remember this story.

00:08:49.180 Mark D'Amico, Kate McClure, and Johnny Bobbitt will face charges, including conspiracy and theft, by deception,

00:08:55.280 because they apparently conspired or allegedly conspired with one another to make up a false story in order to raise more than $400,000.

00:09:06.980 D'Amico and McClure turned themselves into Burlington County authorities on Wednesday after prosecutors said that they, along with Bobbitt,

00:09:12.480 intentionally prevented those who donated to the GoFundMe page from accessing relevant information

00:09:16.820 that would affect their judgment about solicited contribution to the fundraising effort.

00:09:20.360 The three gained national attention last year after the couple claimed that Bobbitt gave his last $20 to help McClure purchase fuel

00:09:27.420 after she ran out of fuel while driving on Interstate 95 in Philadelphia.

00:09:35.440 And then the story goes on from there.

00:09:38.080 If you've been following this, you know that so they raised all this money,

00:09:41.380 and then almost immediately there was a dispute between the homeless man and the couple

00:09:47.700 because he was claiming they didn't give him all the money that was earmarked to them.

00:09:52.520 And next thing you know, this couple, they're buying a BMW.

00:09:55.760 They're going on these fancy vacations.

00:09:59.080 And it's just, I mean, this isn't really the point here,

00:10:02.540 but the absolute stupidity of the people involved in this scheme.

00:10:08.460 I mean, so you come up with this, you conspire to make up this story,

00:10:15.620 and then you start suing each other and backstabbing each other like it wasn't going to all fall apart?

00:10:22.440 Not only that, but, I mean, if you really, you know, you could have,

00:10:27.860 there's no reason to even make up the story.

00:10:29.600 You could have covered your tracks just if the woman, if the homeless guy had actually just given $20

00:10:38.840 to the woman, then they could claim that the story wasn't really made up.

00:10:44.380 In other words, maybe there was some conspiring,

00:10:46.800 but if she had actually just had the guy physically give her $20,

00:10:51.480 then legally maybe she could say, hey, look, I'm clear, he did give me $20.

00:10:55.800 But apparently they didn't even do that much.

00:11:00.840 And then they immediately started stabbing it.

00:11:03.060 No honor amongst thieves, I guess, is the lesson we learned.

00:11:07.520 But there are other lessons as well.

00:11:10.780 And the obvious lesson is that we shouldn't give our money to a GoFundMe campaign

00:11:17.620 just because a viral story tugged our heartstrings.

00:11:21.320 And I think we could be a little bit more specific than that.

00:11:25.800 First of all, I become very uncomfortable.

00:11:30.040 I have become uncomfortable with this GoFundMe stuff

00:11:33.320 because people tend to give to campaigns without stopping to think

00:11:37.820 whether a whole boatload of cash is really what the person in question needs.

00:11:47.020 In this case, you know, I made this point even before we knew the whole thing was a scam

00:11:51.620 or is allegedly a scam.

00:11:54.600 But in this case, even if the whole story was legitimate,

00:11:59.140 it wouldn't be a good idea even then to give $400,000 a homeless guy.

00:12:04.180 It is almost a certainty that a homeless man will have a drug addiction,

00:12:08.180 an alcohol addiction, or severe mental health problems,

00:12:11.180 or also very likely all three.

00:12:14.740 That's why he's homeless.

00:12:16.980 You know, there just aren't very many sober, mentally healthy homeless people.

00:12:22.640 I'm not saying there aren't any.

00:12:23.900 Some do exist.

00:12:24.780 But the vast majority are going to have drug problems and mental problems,

00:12:29.300 which is very sad, of course.

00:12:31.120 And that's why we should help people in that situation.

00:12:36.700 And those people need help, and they should receive it.

00:12:39.580 But hundreds of thousands of dollars is not the kind of help

00:12:43.340 that should be given in those situations.

00:12:46.580 You give $400,000 to a heroin addict, and you've basically killed him.

00:12:51.920 Now, I don't know that this man's a heroin addict.

00:12:53.580 I'm just trying to illustrate my point.

00:12:55.540 Whatever his issue is, however he ended up homeless,

00:12:57.600 it's probably going to be solved with a whole bucket of cash.

00:13:04.280 Those problems will probably be made worse.

00:13:08.520 And there's a lot of this kind of thing on GoFundMe.

00:13:12.940 People asking for money, even though it's not at all clear

00:13:16.140 that money will actually really solve their problems.

00:13:20.880 Or you'll have a GoFundMe where someone goes viral for doing something nice,

00:13:25.840 and even though they aren't homeless, we all just send them money anyway,

00:13:30.720 even though money has nothing to do with anything.

00:13:35.780 Or someone suffers a tragedy of some kind,

00:13:38.720 and we feel very badly for them for good reason.

00:13:40.560 But then we start giving them money,

00:13:41.860 even though maybe money has nothing to do with the tragedy

00:13:44.440 and won't help address the issue whatsoever.

00:13:48.300 I just don't think it's a smart way to go about things.

00:13:51.240 I also think that one of the problems with GoFundMe,

00:13:57.200 and I've donated to GoFundMe campaigns plenty of times,

00:14:00.240 and there are legitimate uses for them.

00:14:02.160 There are good uses for them.

00:14:04.440 I think, for instance, when someone's having a, you know,

00:14:07.180 with medical issues, when someone needs help with medical bills,

00:14:10.560 that kind of thing.

00:14:12.460 I think that's a good use for GoFundMe.

00:14:14.400 Because in that case, you know where the money is going,

00:14:16.240 and it's easy for the person who's asking for the money

00:14:20.240 to prove that they did, you know,

00:14:22.920 that they did give their money towards this,

00:14:26.820 towards the medical bills.

00:14:28.940 So I think that could be a good use for it.

00:14:30.660 But I think so often you have these problems.

00:14:34.360 And one of the other problems with GoFundMe

00:14:36.360 is that it just, it makes it way too easy, I guess,

00:14:41.240 for people to ask for money.

00:14:43.040 Um, because you can just set up a page on GoFundMe,

00:14:49.720 and you have it on the internet,

00:14:51.960 separated from you,

00:14:53.580 and then you just sit back and wait for people to donate from it.

00:14:57.400 So you don't have to go through that actual human interaction

00:15:00.040 of asking someone face-to-face for money.

00:15:03.920 And I'm not saying that everyone who needs money

00:15:05.480 should have to go through the face-to-face thing

00:15:07.340 so that they're humiliated.

00:15:08.900 But I do think that there should be that human,

00:15:11.800 it's just, it's just, it's too, it's too easy.

00:15:14.340 And that's why if you go on GoFundMe,

00:15:15.740 you're going to find all kinds of people

00:15:17.420 who are not really poor, are not disadvantaged,

00:15:20.140 but they're just asking for money.

00:15:22.060 Like, can you help pay for my college tuition?

00:15:24.320 Can you just give me some money for groceries,

00:15:26.220 even though I'm not poor?

00:15:27.480 Because it's like, why not?

00:15:28.580 You know, you might as well just put it up there,

00:15:29.980 and if people give you money, great.

00:15:30.860 But I just, it's just, it's, it's, that is not an uplifting

00:15:38.960 and kind of human way to go about soliciting help from people.

00:15:42.900 And then the third thing is, yeah,

00:15:44.880 the third problem with GoFundMe for me

00:15:46.460 is that I think we should be looking more locally

00:15:50.780 for people to help.

00:15:53.840 Again, it doesn't mean that we should never give

00:15:55.440 to GoFundMe campaign,

00:15:56.500 but there are people in our local communities

00:16:00.000 who need help,

00:16:00.600 and I think that we should be,

00:16:01.520 we should be looking there first.

00:16:02.740 It's the principle of subsidiarity.

00:16:04.780 It's, it's, if there's a problem,

00:16:07.060 that problem should be solved,

00:16:09.180 it should be addressed

00:16:09.920 by the most local authority possible before you go.

00:16:15.680 So if there's someone in the community who needs help,

00:16:19.440 that problem should be,

00:16:21.980 their own community should address that problem first

00:16:26.480 before you go to the entire nation and solicit help.

00:16:32.260 So I just think it's something we need to be careful with

00:16:35.140 when it comes to these GoFundMe campaigns.

00:16:37.460 One other especially outrageous story,

00:16:40.420 a physical education teacher in Florida

00:16:42.860 has been punished for refusing to oversee

00:16:46.380 a biological female middle school student

00:16:50.240 who, while she's getting undressed in a boy's locker room.

00:16:54.480 Did you catch that?

00:16:55.140 Does that, does that make sense?

00:16:56.480 Um, so you've got a, a female student 1.00

00:16:59.300 who now has decided that she wants to be a boy.

00:17:01.640 And so she wants to use the boys locker room.

00:17:04.340 And, uh, and two things happen.

00:17:06.680 First of all, the boys in the school

00:17:09.480 who, who, as, as, as were,

00:17:13.180 as the Federalist reports were,

00:17:14.980 were caught literally with their pants down.

00:17:17.180 Um, and, you know, as they were getting undressed in the locker room

00:17:20.560 and this girl walks in and they felt, um,

00:17:24.600 they felt embarrassed and they were,

00:17:26.820 they were concerned about the fact that they've got this girl

00:17:29.520 observing them getting undressed.

00:17:32.660 And then on top of that,

00:17:34.340 you've got a male gym teacher 1.00

00:17:36.140 who is supposed to be the one who oversees the boys,

00:17:39.840 the boys locker room.

00:17:40.800 Um, but now he's saying, well, I can't, I'm not gonna,

00:17:43.360 I can't be in there as there's, as a girl is getting changed.

00:17:47.000 And now he's in trouble for that.

00:17:48.640 Um, he was reprimanded and he was told that, uh,

00:17:52.560 that he would be transferred to a different school.

00:17:56.800 Um, a letter says with a gag order,

00:18:00.460 school administrators forbade teachers

00:18:02.280 from talking about the change

00:18:03.600 and ordered a male PE teacher 0.99

00:18:05.700 to supervise the potentially undressed girl 0.95

00:18:08.340 in the, uh, Chasco middle school locker room,

00:18:11.360 Chasco or Casco middle school,

00:18:12.780 I'm not sure how to pronounce that.

00:18:13.320 Uh, when he refused to knowingly place himself

00:18:16.460 in a position to observe a minor female in the nude 0.89

00:18:18.780 or otherwise in a state of undress,

00:18:20.700 administrators told him he will be transferred

00:18:22.340 to another school as disciplined

00:18:24.400 for not doing his job in the locker room.

00:18:28.400 This is, well, look, there's, there's,

00:18:30.600 there's not a lot, um, that can be said about this

00:18:34.080 because it's so clearly insane.

00:18:38.160 Um, and now we see again,

00:18:40.240 how the me too thing has, has come full circle.

00:18:44.800 And now a man, now a grown man,

00:18:47.660 just think about this for a second.

00:18:49.100 A grown man is getting in trouble 0.99

00:18:51.700 for respecting a minor girl's privacy

00:18:56.020 and refusing to be in the room

00:18:58.620 while she gets chained, 0.53

00:18:59.580 while she gets chained. 0.74

00:19:01.020 So again, this is a, a grown man

00:19:02.900 who is in trouble for not being in the room

00:19:06.000 with a, with a, with a girl as she gets changed.

00:19:11.080 Um, and then on top of that,

00:19:12.740 you've got all these boys who, of course,

00:19:14.220 their wishes don't, don't matter.

00:19:15.880 The fact that they feel uncomfortable,

00:19:17.260 that they feel embarrassed,

00:19:18.520 that makes no difference whatsoever

00:19:20.860 because this is the way things work

00:19:24.180 on the left now.

00:19:26.840 That we've got, you know,

00:19:28.240 you've got competing claims of rights

00:19:30.520 and, um, and this,

00:19:32.180 because this girl is the, the victim.

00:19:34.800 She's in the victim category 1.00

00:19:36.280 as a quote unquote transgender.

00:19:38.700 So her right claim trumps everyone. 0.98

00:19:42.120 And the fact that everyone is, uh,

00:19:44.480 is made to feel extremely uncomfortable

00:19:46.460 and embarrassed, that does not matter.

00:19:48.880 Their feelings don't matter.

00:19:50.320 All that matters is, is her.

00:19:53.480 Which goes back again to, you know,

00:19:55.620 the point that I'm always making

00:19:56.640 is that, you know,

00:19:57.720 when we see all this gender identity stuff 0.86

00:20:01.020 and we see how it's,

00:20:03.200 how it's much more common now

00:20:05.780 than it used to be.

00:20:07.440 And that tells us

00:20:08.780 that this is obviously

00:20:11.260 not a natural phenomenon

00:20:13.040 and it's not just mental illness either.

00:20:15.980 It's there, there is, there is,

00:20:17.460 it's a cultural thing.

00:20:19.200 It is a trend as well.

00:20:21.900 And, um, some people see this trend

00:20:24.940 and they find something appealing in it.

00:20:26.680 And what do they find appealing in it?

00:20:29.160 They, what they find appealing

00:20:30.180 is that it is so self-serving.

00:20:32.800 It is so egotistical and arrogant

00:20:35.520 where you get to say

00:20:37.540 that only my feelings and opinions matter

00:20:40.520 and everyone else just has to deal with it

00:20:43.200 because I'm going to do

00:20:44.380 what's comfortable for me.

00:20:45.620 And if it's not comfortable for you,

00:20:46.860 it doesn't matter.

00:20:48.720 And, um, that mentality

00:20:50.500 is being encouraged.

00:20:51.680 We are, we are fostering

00:20:53.280 that mentality in kids

00:20:54.780 and encouraging it when,

00:20:57.460 you know, I, this girl's parents,

00:20:58.980 I don't know who,

00:20:59.700 what her parents are doing

00:21:00.480 or who they are.

00:21:01.960 Um, but however they feel

00:21:04.960 about the transgender thing

00:21:06.260 as the, what they should be saying

00:21:07.540 to their daughter is,

00:21:08.820 you know what?

00:21:09.840 I know maybe it would make you

00:21:11.560 feel more comfortable

00:21:12.320 to be changing with the boys,

00:21:13.260 but it does.

00:21:13.900 It makes them uncomfortable

00:21:14.960 and it makes your teacher uncomfortable.

00:21:17.120 And so there are a lot of people

00:21:18.400 who feel reasonably uncomfortable

00:21:20.640 and feel like their private space

00:21:22.520 is being invaded.

00:21:23.160 So you should respect that.

00:21:24.680 You should have respect

00:21:25.660 for other people.

00:21:27.300 The left tells us so much,

00:21:28.620 well, we have to, you know,

00:21:29.240 if someone has gender identity issues

00:21:31.640 or they're transgender,

00:21:32.340 we have to respect them.

00:21:33.600 Okay, well, can we tell them

00:21:35.000 to respect us?

00:21:37.160 What, does the respect

00:21:38.200 ever go the other way?

00:21:40.120 Why is the respect

00:21:40.900 only ever going one way?

00:21:41.980 Shouldn't they also be told

00:21:43.700 to respect other people?

00:21:45.400 Where is their respect

00:21:46.340 for other people?

00:21:48.680 Um, finally, just want to mention,

00:21:50.020 I can't wrap this up

00:21:51.640 without mentioning this

00:21:52.480 because it's very important.

00:21:54.500 A new study published this week

00:21:56.360 proved scientifically

00:21:57.460 that bearded men

00:21:58.600 are more attractive

00:21:59.720 than non-bearded.

00:22:01.600 Over 8,000 women were surveyed

00:22:03.400 and most rated bearded men

00:22:04.980 as most attractive

00:22:06.460 and clean-shaven men as least.

00:22:09.180 Now this, of course,

00:22:10.120 comes as,

00:22:10.600 comes as no surprise to me

00:22:13.300 though I do feel bad

00:22:15.400 for my baby-faced brothers

00:22:17.720 because it's hard enough

00:22:19.800 for them to walk around

00:22:20.820 every day

00:22:21.340 with the faces

00:22:22.260 of preschoolers

00:22:23.460 but then to be told

00:22:24.700 that they are repellent

00:22:25.800 to women as well,

00:22:26.820 well, that's just,

00:22:27.280 I mean, that's just a,

00:22:28.720 that's a tough break.

00:22:30.460 Um, so I'm,

00:22:32.340 I'm sorry, guys.

00:22:33.840 I really am.

00:22:35.120 But, you know,

00:22:36.380 maybe you should think about

00:22:37.960 having the face of a man.

00:22:40.720 Because that's obviously

00:22:42.040 what, what women want. 1.00

00:22:43.960 All right, we'll leave it there.

00:22:45.440 Thanks for watching, everybody.

00:22:46.320 Thanks for listening.

00:22:47.160 Godspeed.

00:22:47.560 We'll see you next time.

00:22:54.760 We'll see you next time.

The Matt Walsh Show - November 15, 2018

Ep. 144 - Scam Artists (Michael Avenatti) Get Their Comeuppance

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