The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1441 - Diversity Killed His Son, But He Wishes A White Man Did It？

00:00:00.000 What do you feel in your body when you hear the term white people?

00:00:05.720 I feel like a cringe about it.

00:00:08.520 White, straight, cisgender, man, it's the top of the pile. 1.00

00:00:11.820 I'm on the top of the pile. It's me.

00:00:14.200 Can I just propose a toast? 0.98

00:00:15.700 Raise a glass if you're racist. 0.99

00:00:17.380 It's a racist. 0.93

00:00:19.400 That was really weird. 0.92

00:00:21.080 Don't deny that you're racist. 0.55

00:00:22.420 Try not to be racist, but also don't realize that you're...

00:00:25.080 Until we're willing to talk about these things,

00:00:26.860 healing can't really begin.

00:00:27.940 My daughter's four years old.

00:00:28.960 She's still watching Disney movies and choosing a white princess. 0.95

00:00:32.220 Have you talked to her about that?

00:00:33.180 All the time.

00:00:34.060 Is racism inherent to whiteness?

00:00:36.440 Yes.

00:00:36.840 Yeah, probably.

00:00:38.020 Well, yeah.

00:00:39.100 Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.

00:00:42.540 Did race exist as a reality before?

00:00:44.460 We made race exist.

00:00:45.960 Does that make sense?

00:00:46.760 It does make sense.

00:00:47.900 What do you mean?

00:00:48.520 What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness. 0.71

00:00:51.840 This is more for you and less for you.

00:00:54.280 Am I racist?

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00:00:59.960 Today on the Matt Wall Show,

00:01:01.140 the father of a child killed by an illegal immigrant

00:01:03.280 is now speaking up to denounce the conservative politicians

00:01:06.600 and activists who are outraged over his son's death.

00:01:09.480 We're the bad guys somehow.

00:01:10.780 Also, Trump says that he might not do another debate with Kamala.

00:01:13.900 I agree that he should not.

00:01:15.560 I'll explain.

00:01:16.220 And Joe Biden dons a Trump hat.

00:01:18.220 It's an endorsement next.

00:01:19.500 Also, Will Ferrell is the latest comedian to apologize

00:01:22.240 for some of his old jokes.

00:01:23.680 We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.

00:01:25.420 I want to know about races.

00:01:29.380 Am I racist?

00:01:31.380 Why do you judge by the color of our faces?

00:01:33.800 It's racial division just a plant by the matrix.

00:01:36.340 They brought down our cities, then they get called courageous.

00:01:38.700 Instead of condemning the media, give them praises.

00:01:41.580 Oh, man, what is the benefit?

00:01:43.740 When the media ruin our images.

00:01:45.780 If you a white male, you get called a white supremacist.

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00:03:13.920 One of the many lies you'll often hear about multiculturalism is that it's an ideology

00:03:18.660 of tolerance.

00:03:20.120 We are a melting pot.

00:03:21.420 Diversity is our strength.

00:03:22.920 We're stronger together.

00:03:24.540 And so on.

00:03:25.640 Now, nobody really believes any of that, least of all the proponents of multiculturalism.

00:03:29.000 In reality, as Thomas Saul pointed out, multiculturalism is an ideology that tolerates every culture

00:03:35.200 except one, which is Western culture.

00:03:38.380 When it comes to Western culture, no level of hatred or self-loathing is beyond the pale.

00:03:42.420 Anyone who belongs to this disfavored culture must apologize repeatedly for his own existence. 0.98

00:03:49.060 We must grovel at every opportunity on account of our skin color and ethnicity. 0.78

00:03:53.700 And ultimately, a person from this culture must turn on his own family and sacrifice them 1.00

00:03:58.420 at the altar of multiculturalism.

00:04:01.280 And that's exactly what happened on Tuesday at a city commission meeting in the town of

00:04:05.680 Springfield, Ohio.

00:04:07.500 Now, in the past few days, as you're probably aware, Springfield has found itself in the

00:04:11.120 center of a national political firestorm after several residents reported that animals are

00:04:15.740 being sacrificed and, in some cases, eaten by the tens of thousands of Haitian nationals 1.00

00:04:20.560 that have flooded into town in the past four years.

00:04:22.740 And despite what ABC News says, there is clear merit to these claims.

00:04:27.760 The Daily Wire is on the ground in Springfield, where we found evidence that the heads and

00:04:31.980 carcasses of slaughtered pigs are being left out in public.

00:04:35.800 As disturbing as this is, all of the talk about animals obscures a more important point, which

00:04:40.600 is that human beings are being killed as well.

00:04:43.820 One of them, as I mentioned earlier this week, was an 11-year-old boy named Aiden Clark.

00:04:48.780 He was killed, and more than a dozen other students were seriously injured, last year

00:04:53.220 by a Haitian national who crossed the center line and crashed into a school bus on the first

00:04:57.860 day of school.

00:04:59.060 This Haitian national was on the roads illegally.

00:05:01.840 His driver's license was from Mexico.

00:05:04.140 Now, on Tuesday, the father of Aiden Clark addressed the national coverage of his son's

00:05:10.180 death, and here's what he said.

00:05:12.920 Listen.

00:05:14.260 We felt it would be in our best interest to be here after recent comments. 0.96

00:05:18.780 You know, I wish that my son, Aiden Clark, was killed by a 60-year-old white man.

00:05:28.960 I bet you never thought anyone would ever say something so blunt. 0.93

00:05:32.940 But if that guy killed my 11-year-old son, the incessant group of hate-spewing people would

00:05:41.900 leave us alone.

00:05:44.400 The last thing that we need is to have the worst day of our lives violently and constantly

00:05:48.760 shoved in our faces.

00:05:49.760 But even that's not good enough for them.

00:05:54.320 They take it one step further.

00:05:57.260 They make it seem as though our wonderful Aiden appreciates your hate, that we should follow

00:06:02.740 their hate.

00:06:05.140 And look what you've done to us.

00:06:08.100 We have to get up here and beg them to stop.

00:06:10.340 Using Aiden as a political tool is, to say the least, reprehensible for any political purpose.

00:06:20.180 And speaking of morally bankrupt, politicians, Bernie Moreno, Chip Roy, J.D. Vance, and Donald

00:06:27.980 Trump, they have spoken my son's name and used his death for political gain.

00:06:33.260 This needs to stop now.

00:06:37.660 They can vomit all the hate they want about illegal immigrants, the border crisis, and

00:06:44.680 even untrue claims about fluffy pets being ravaged and eaten by community members.

00:06:52.260 However, they are not allowed, nor have they ever been allowed to mention Aiden Clark from

00:06:57.560 Springfield, Ohio.

00:06:59.900 I will listen to them one more time to hear their apologies.

00:07:04.040 To clear the air, my son, Aiden Clark, was not murdered.

00:07:09.220 He was accidentally killed by an immigrant from Haiti. 0.99

00:07:12.540 In order to live like Aiden, you need to accept everyone.

00:07:16.700 Choose to shine.

00:07:17.680 Make the difference.

00:07:18.640 Lead the way.

00:07:19.260 And be the inspiration.

00:07:21.440 Now, before I go any further, I'll say this.

00:07:24.660 Losing a child is the single worst thing that can happen to a person.

00:07:28.420 It's the greatest pain a human being can experience.

00:07:31.020 That's why, as a father, I almost never criticize people who've gone through something like that.

00:07:38.440 I don't criticize them for how they grieve.

00:07:41.020 I don't criticize them for what they say in the aftermath, usually.

00:07:45.240 It's a horror so unthinkable that there's just no way to know how a person will react.

00:07:50.980 There's no way for you to know how you would react in that situation.

00:07:54.520 But after that, after the remarks we just heard, unfortunately, I feel compelled to say something.

00:08:04.580 Because, for one thing, this man is slandering people.

00:08:08.220 People like myself.

00:08:09.060 Mentioning by name, you know, Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and other high-profile politicians.

00:08:17.220 Slandering people who have spoken up for his son.

00:08:20.800 He's attributing false motives to us.

00:08:23.300 He's labeling us racist and hateful and so on.

00:08:26.080 He's also claiming that no one, including politicians, has the right to even mention his son's name.

00:08:32.180 That we somehow need permission to talk about it.

00:08:35.540 We don't.

00:08:37.540 None of that is true.

00:08:39.480 And we have a right to correct the record, especially since this man is now using his son's death to make a political statement.

00:08:45.060 And it's a false statement.

00:08:46.440 It's a harmful statement.

00:08:49.320 It's a statement that if people listen to him, more kids are going to die.

00:08:55.540 If he has his way, more parents are going to be grieving.

00:08:59.280 So, we need to speak up because this is a matter of national importance.

00:09:05.360 And also, it's just the morally right thing to do, to correct the record when somebody is lying, lying like this guy is.

00:09:12.700 So, I'm going to repeat what the father of Aidan Clark just said.

00:09:16.640 He said, quote, 0.93

00:09:17.460 I wish that my son, Aidan Clark, was killed by a 60-year-old white man. 0.89

00:09:23.480 That was the line that he wrote down, prepared, and then delivered. 0.97

00:09:25.940 I mean, even just writing, just the first part. 1.00

00:09:29.560 I wish that my son was killed. 0.95

00:09:32.660 No, there's no conceivable valid reason to ever write that line down or say it. 0.99

00:09:40.300 There's no context where that isn't incredibly demented and twisted.

00:09:44.280 He didn't say that he wished his son was never killed. 0.98

00:09:50.340 Instead, he said that he wished his son was killed by somebody else.

00:09:54.680 So that other people wouldn't draw any unapproved conclusions. 0.99

00:10:00.940 His comments only go to show that white guilt is a sickness. 1.00

00:10:07.180 I mean, this man is infected in his brain. 0.99

00:10:09.760 This is an infection that has burrowed deep into his mind and soul. 0.86

00:10:17.000 Someone needs to talk to this guy.

00:10:20.820 He's going to have to live with what he just said there for the rest of his life. 0.99

00:10:24.540 And he doesn't realize how disgusting and repugnant it is. 0.91

00:10:28.800 And it's so deep in his soul that even the death of a child did not shake him free of this. 0.68

00:10:39.000 I can't comprehend how a thought like this even enters your head.

00:10:43.240 A man kills your child and your wish is that a man of a different race had killed him? 0.73

00:10:49.180 That a man of your own race had killed him?

00:10:51.320 How does that thought even occur to you? 0.94

00:10:56.720 Now, I would certainly expect that you would wish that a Haitian immigrant hadn't killed your son. 1.00

00:11:02.700 But because you would wish that nobody had. 0.92

00:11:05.840 But to wish that someone else had killed him is incomprehensibly deranged.

00:11:09.320 Now, his implication, if you want to be as charitable as possible, is that the tens of thousands of Haitians that have moved into Springfield are safe drivers.

00:11:21.140 They're just as safe as the American citizens who have been living there for generations, supposedly.

00:11:24.840 But everyone living in Springfield knows that's not true.

00:11:26.640 The journalist Taylor Hanson is in Springfield.

00:11:29.260 He just reported that, quote,

00:11:30.200 Hanson also put together a compilation of some of the car crashes he's seen involving Haitians in Springfield.

00:11:52.140 Here's just some of them.

00:11:55.040 Whose car?

00:11:57.340 Who did this?

00:12:00.200 You did this?

00:12:02.500 Yeah.

00:12:04.520 Yeah, man.

00:12:05.260 This is the third wreck today.

00:12:09.480 We got to do something about this.

00:12:11.720 We need to, uh,

00:12:14.480 Anthony Harris will start coming there.

00:12:17.140 This is the third time this has happened today.

00:12:20.140 This is the third time.

00:12:21.620 This is the fourth wreck today.

00:12:43.360 This is the fourth car collision.

00:12:45.900 Oh, this is the, uh, this is the fourth, this is the fourth wreck involving the new Americans. 1.00

00:12:50.960 How did this happen?

00:12:52.340 So this is what's happening in Springfield.

00:12:54.060 It's all predictable.

00:12:54.680 When you increase the size of a town by one third and all of the new arrivals are from a dysfunctional hellhole like Haiti. 1.00

00:13:01.660 And, and you got a lot of people that don't even have a license to be on the road in the first place.

00:13:06.200 Like they never even took a driver's test in this country.

00:13:10.040 Well, you're going to get a lot of bad drivers who don't obey the rules of the road.

00:13:12.880 It's common sense.

00:13:14.400 And some of those bad drivers are going to kill children on the way to school. 1.00

00:13:18.220 And, you know, one thing that could come out of the horrible tragedy of, uh, Aiden's death is if awareness is raised about this problem in Springfield.

00:13:27.760 And then maybe fewer people will die.

00:13:31.680 But Aiden Clark's father doesn't want fewer people to die.

00:13:35.960 Because of his own ideology, he doesn't want that awareness to be spread.

00:13:42.200 Now, it's understandable that Aiden Clark's father is angry.

00:13:46.100 I would be unfathomably angry if I was in his shoes.

00:13:50.540 But his anger is directed at the only people who have expressed any concern over his son's death.

00:13:58.920 He attacks the only people who actually care that his son is dead.

00:14:05.220 Hey, you know, Kamala Harris doesn't care at all that your son's dead. 1.00

00:14:10.520 Does that bother you?

00:14:12.280 She couldn't care less.

00:14:14.420 She wants to put more people in the country, more of the kinds of people who killed your son. 0.98

00:14:18.000 She wants more of those in the country. 1.00

00:14:21.400 Oh, but that doesn't upset you, does it?

00:14:25.280 You know, it seems to me that after suffering such a tragedy, most of your anger would be reserved for the man who actually killed your son.

00:14:34.500 Instead, you're defending him.

00:14:36.540 Well, he didn't.

00:14:37.020 Let's be clear.

00:14:37.580 He didn't murder my son.

00:14:40.300 Yeah, he did.

00:14:43.140 He's not supposed to be in this country.

00:14:44.340 He's not supposed to be on the road.

00:14:45.180 He's on the road illegally.

00:14:47.880 Yeah, he murdered your son.

00:14:51.080 You're less angry at the guy who killed your son than you are at politicians who you don't like. 1.00

00:14:57.800 You're sick. 1.00

00:14:58.620 You are sick. 0.99

00:14:59.320 I mean that, like, with all concern for your well-being. 0.99

00:15:03.100 And the rest of the anger that you have should be directed at the politicians who let that guy into the country.

00:15:10.280 If he hadn't been allowed in, if our immigration system was functional, if our borders were enforced, your son would be alive.

00:15:19.560 You know, the terrible racist right-wingers that you hate so much, guess what?

00:15:24.700 If we had our way, your son would be alive. 0.98

00:15:27.240 If we were in charge, we had our way.

00:15:31.520 If Donald Trump was in charge and he had his way, your son would be living today.

00:15:35.800 But we're the problem.

00:15:40.320 It's not just this father who thinks like this.

00:15:44.540 I watched some more of this Springfield City Commission meeting.

00:15:47.740 The whole thing resembled a struggle session where no one felt that they could speak their minds.

00:15:51.240 They all had to affirm virtues of multiculturalism.

00:15:53.780 For example, you might remember this woman who spoke a few days ago about her experiences in Springfield.

00:15:58.180 This clip went viral at the time for obvious reasons.

00:16:00.520 Here's some of it.

00:16:02.880 I'm done with what I'm seeing.

00:16:05.320 It is so unsafe in my neighborhood anymore.

00:16:08.440 I have the homeless that were trying to camp out, and I have made concessions with them, 1.00

00:16:13.340 and I try to help them the best I can to keep them from trying to squat on my property.

00:16:19.680 But it is so unsafe.

00:16:21.320 I have men that cannot speak English in my front yard screaming at me,

00:16:26.500 throwing mattresses in my front yard, throwing trash in my front yard, and I can't.

00:16:33.100 Look at me.

00:16:33.920 I weigh 95 pounds.

00:16:35.260 I couldn't defend myself if I had to.

00:16:37.520 My husband is elderly, and last night after living in this home for 45 years, he said,

00:16:42.760 Noelle, guess what? 0.72

00:16:44.160 It's time to pack up and move.

00:16:46.080 He said, we can't do this anymore.

00:16:47.920 He said, it's killing both of us mentally.

00:16:50.940 So she's understandably frustrated.

00:16:52.820 She's clearly telling the truth about her firsthand experiences.

00:16:55.260 She's very emotional about it.

00:16:58.400 Her life is being destroyed.

00:16:59.860 Her community is being destroyed.

00:17:01.860 And she's deeply, deeply devastated by that.

00:17:05.860 A lot of people shared that clip.

00:17:07.120 I shared it.

00:17:10.400 With all compassion for this woman and what she's going through.

00:17:14.160 And yet here was that same woman on Tuesday.

00:17:16.960 Listen.

00:17:17.140 I did not mean to bring any ill will to my city.

00:17:22.540 Everybody knows at this point who I am, and I'm not really comfortable with that.

00:17:27.400 I try to keep to myself, and that's not what I wanted, was for this to happen.

00:17:32.940 I did not mean to bring any ill will to the city.

00:17:36.320 All right?

00:17:37.060 I'm just saying that I did not mean to bring any ill will.

00:17:41.100 And about the ducks and the cats, I'm the crazy cat lady in my town.

00:17:44.200 And I'm not missing any.

00:17:46.840 Everybody's present and accounted for.

00:17:48.600 And if they were coming up out of our park with geese or ducks, I would be one of the

00:17:52.660 first people to see it.

00:17:53.600 I'm telling you, it's not happening.

00:17:55.600 So stop with all that.

00:17:57.800 That's what I want to say.

00:17:59.240 And thank you, Ms. Tackett, because you spoke to me like I had some sense last Wednesday.

00:18:05.140 I've got the courage to stand back up here again today.

00:18:07.720 Thank you.

00:18:08.720 Thank you.

00:18:09.440 Thank you so much.

00:18:10.320 These people.

00:18:16.480 I can't even say all the things I want to say.

00:18:21.820 I mean, really, with an attitude like you deserve to lose your community with an attitude like this.

00:18:28.120 I still don't think you should, because I believe in controlling the border and national sovereignty.

00:18:33.700 So I'll still speak out about it.

00:18:35.180 But if you don't even have the gumption to stand by your own words, when you're justifiably angry that your community is being destroyed and you feel the need to come back around and rationalize it, then, like, how is it that some of us who don't even live there care more about your community than you do?

00:18:55.320 That's the frustrating thing.

00:19:00.040 You don't have to apologize for caring about your own well-being and the well-being of your community.

00:19:04.820 You don't need to apologize for that.

00:19:06.980 You should care about that.

00:19:08.400 So now, after her comments generate outrage, appropriate, justified outrage, she's backtracking.

00:19:16.320 Now that they make Democrats, you know, in the ideology of multiculturalism look bad, she's apologetic.

00:19:22.920 She doesn't say that she lied before.

00:19:24.320 She just recognized now that what she said was inconvenient for the ideology she's required to hold.

00:19:28.360 And she wants to stay in the good graces of, you know, the people who run her community, I guess.

00:19:32.980 And so she didn't mean to bring any ill will.

00:19:36.240 And again, the whole city council, the whole council meeting went like this.

00:19:39.640 One speaker after another affirming the values of diversity.

00:19:43.300 Here's another.

00:19:44.360 The parents of the little boy that died, they broke me down.

00:19:50.540 They said, stop the hate.

00:19:52.460 And that's what we need to do.

00:19:53.600 So, um, this city's going backwards, not forward.

00:19:59.720 Um, my mother's an immigrant.

00:20:02.500 I love the diversity.

00:20:04.420 We got to learn.

00:20:05.600 We, they're not going nowhere.

00:20:08.160 I mean, when have you ever told immigrants to get away, leave?

00:20:12.900 You, it's not going to happen.

00:20:15.580 So we've got to move forward and stop the negativity.

00:20:21.680 Yeah, your community's being destroyed.

00:20:23.600 Right in front of you.

00:20:25.180 Everything you've built, everything you've built, everything people before you in your

00:20:28.620 community built, being taken away from you.

00:20:31.760 Uh, and yet the most important message for you is that we love diversity and let's stop

00:20:37.920 the negativity.

00:20:42.720 It's like, it's, you know, it's like watching somebody with Stockholm syndrome.

00:20:47.080 That's why I use the word sick before.

00:20:48.740 That's, that's, that's, that's just like a mental sickness.

00:20:52.040 Um, and it's a very similar kind of mental sickness.

00:20:56.240 She knows that the huge influx of Haitians has caused problems for Springfield. 1.00

00:20:59.640 She heard all the residents saying so just a few days ago, but then she implies that,

00:21:03.960 you know, there's no use complaining about it because no one's ever going to remove all

00:21:07.620 these people.

00:21:08.320 No one in power is going to send these foreign nationals back where they came from.

00:21:11.460 So she might as well smile and hold back tears and pretend that diversity is strengthening

00:21:16.140 Springfield.

00:21:18.080 This is the essence of multiculturalism as it's being applied in the United States.

00:21:21.400 It's an ideology of, uh, it's not an ideology of tolerance or empowerment.

00:21:25.380 It's an ideology with one goal, which is the destruction of Western culture and the destruction,

00:21:31.100 which means the destruction of the communities that you live in.

00:21:33.700 It means making your life actively worse.

00:21:37.260 And if you live in Springfield, you know that this stuff has made your life actively worse.

00:21:41.520 You all know it.

00:21:42.280 Everybody lives there.

00:21:42.960 You all know it.

00:21:44.780 And if this city council meeting in Springfield on Tuesdays, any occasion, a lot of American

00:21:48.840 citizens, even those who have suffered unimaginable horrors as a result of multiculturalism, 1.00

00:21:54.920 are perfectly fine with that.

00:21:58.240 Or at least they're pretending to be.

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00:23:24.120 ABC News reports that, reading now, former President Donald Trump has begun to shut down

00:23:28.940 the possibility of a second debate against Vice President Kamala Harris after debating

00:23:32.000 her Tuesday night, claiming he doesn't need to debate her again because he won the debate.

00:23:36.780 Trump told ABC News late Tuesday, well, she wants a second debate because she lost tonight

00:23:40.740 very badly.

00:23:42.340 So, we'll think about that.

00:23:44.380 But she immediately called for a second.

00:23:48.060 And then later on, he was talking to Hannity and he said the same kind of thing.

00:23:52.180 He's going to think about another debate.

00:23:53.160 Okay, we're looking at it, but when you win, you don't really necessarily have to do it

00:23:56.680 a second time.

00:23:57.540 So, we'll see.

00:23:58.480 But we had, I thought we had a great debate last night.

00:24:01.500 I just don't know.

00:24:02.220 We'll think about it.

00:24:02.740 Okay.

00:24:03.900 I think Trump is on the right track here.

00:24:05.780 I may be in the minority among conservatives, or maybe I'm not.

00:24:08.980 I don't know.

00:24:09.640 But I think that Trump should not do a second debate.

00:24:15.020 And I think he should just say that he's not doing it.

00:24:16.940 I don't think that we should do this thing of being coy about it and, hey, we'll think

00:24:20.480 about it and I don't know.

00:24:21.280 I know that Trump is a showman, so he likes to drag these kinds of things out.

00:24:26.800 And will he or won't he?

00:24:28.000 You know, very reality TV-esque.

00:24:29.960 But I think in this case, it makes you look like you're waffling and it could make you

00:24:38.340 look like you're weak or scared.

00:24:39.520 So, it's better to just say, no.

00:24:42.380 Whatever your answer is, just give it and say, look, obviously, here's my answer to this.

00:24:47.240 And stick to it.

00:24:48.320 But I agree that you can't walk into another three-on-one cage match situation. 0.95

00:24:56.180 It would be totally ridiculous, politically suicidal, really, to volunteer to be ganged

00:25:00.240 up on again.

00:25:02.900 That would never happen in the reverse.

00:25:06.100 Kamala Harris, of course, her campaign would never, she would never want to, and her campaign 0.83

00:25:09.240 would never in a million years allow her to walk into a situation where they know that

00:25:13.720 there's going to be two moderators who are against her actively and trying to embarrass 0.85

00:25:17.780 her the entire way.

00:25:20.060 Not ever going to happen.

00:25:21.120 It's like signing up for a boxing match where the ref is being paid by the other guy.

00:25:26.740 And you know it.

00:25:28.120 And yet you go, no, it's not, it's, you're not going to, you're not going to do that.

00:25:32.260 And not because you're scared of the guy, but because it's just, why would I, it's completely

00:25:35.960 rigged.

00:25:36.360 I'm not going to, I'm not going to take part in my own, you know, I'm not going to allow

00:25:43.320 you to screw me over and volunteer for it. 0.92

00:25:47.520 So if you, if, if you were to agree to a bit, if Trump was to agree to a debate, it would

00:25:52.620 have to be somewhere other than mainstream corporate media.

00:25:54.920 Well, it could be on Fox.

00:25:57.540 Better yet, you could do it somewhere totally outside of the cable news box.

00:26:01.360 You know, I would push for a, you know, an unmoderated debate would be great.

00:26:07.740 I've been saying that forever.

00:26:09.100 I'm not the only one, but I'd love to see a debate where, okay, it's two hours and we've

00:26:14.860 got four topics and we're going to do 30 minutes on each topic.

00:26:20.960 So if there's a moderator, that's the only thing the moderator is doing is just, okay,

00:26:24.760 here's the first topic go.

00:26:26.440 And once we get to about 30 minutes, I'll throw the next topic at you.

00:26:29.640 And that's all that I'm doing as the moderator.

00:26:31.740 I'm not doing anything else.

00:26:35.980 I think that'd be interesting doing a, doing a debate on Joe Rogan or, or, you know, if

00:26:41.620 you want to bring this into the 21st century and go on one of these podcasts and it doesn't

00:26:45.360 have to be an official kind of traditionally formatted debate, but just have both candidates

00:26:49.460 sit there and talk to Joe for two and a half hours, that would be very revealing.

00:26:53.200 It would tell us way more than any of these kind of stuffy formatted, scripted debates on

00:26:59.200 a news channel, but Kamala is never going to agree to that. 0.94

00:27:02.620 Obviously she's only going to agree to a traditional moderated debate. 1.00

00:27:06.520 And, um, and I don't think Trump should willingly walk into that again.

00:27:10.220 Uh, it, it won't be fair.

00:27:12.260 It'll be rigged.

00:27:13.220 Um, and look, uh, I mean, this part, I know it will be in the minority, but I don't, it,

00:27:21.700 it, it's not a great format for Trump.

00:27:24.120 Um, Trump is not, he had some great debate performances in 2016, but he hasn't had a great

00:27:30.680 one since then.

00:27:31.500 I mean, there was the Biden one in this cycle, uh, but you know, Biden was decaying on screen.

00:27:37.520 He, he has dementia.

00:27:39.220 And so, uh, I mean, he, he would have lost if he was debating nobody, right?

00:27:44.200 Uh, not to take anything away from Trump, but that's just, you know, we know that.

00:27:49.500 So it's hard to count that.

00:27:50.840 And, and, uh, you got to go back then to 2016 and 2016, it was so unorthodox.

00:27:55.980 Nobody ever seen anything like this.

00:27:57.200 The way that Trump approaches these things, it was so bewildering for his opponents, both

00:28:01.400 in the primaries, especially in the primaries, but even in the general election that he kind

00:28:06.220 of knocked his opponents back on their heels and they never figured out that was the whole

00:28:09.960 story of 2016 that they versus primary opponents, especially, you know, they got fed to

00:28:14.740 the wolves completely.

00:28:15.420 They had no idea what, what they were getting themselves into.

00:28:19.460 Um, and, and then Hillary too, they just never figured out how to approach this.

00:28:25.480 Well, Trump's been in politics now for almost a decade.

00:28:29.140 He's, he's the, the shock factor and the novelties is worn off completely as it would

00:28:34.240 for anybody.

00:28:34.660 I mean, you've been doing this for 10 years, um, which means that now if you want to win

00:28:42.460 the debates, if you want to win one of these kind of old fashioned standard, uh, political

00:28:47.340 debates, you got to kind of win it the old fashioned way.

00:28:51.020 Um, which means a disciplined performance, giving clean, crisp answers, staying relentlessly

00:28:59.100 on message, right?

00:29:01.360 That's what it means to be good at one of those kinds of debates.

00:29:05.340 There's a, it's a particular skill set, especially when you know you got the moderators against you,

00:29:09.860 but even without the, even if the moderators were, were playing it relatively fairly,

00:29:14.900 uh, it's, it, if you take out 2016 as kind of an outlier, we're sort of back into, into

00:29:25.360 what it's always been, which is it's a particular skill set to succeed in one of those debates.

00:29:29.660 Uh, cause it's not even really a debate.

00:29:33.520 That's the point.

00:29:34.400 You're not really debating.

00:29:36.380 Kamala Harris did not debate Donald Trump.

00:29:40.780 The moderators debated Trump more than Kamala did.

00:29:43.660 The only thing Kamala did was she went in there and she had a whole bunch of scripts.

00:29:48.880 She had her script memorized and she did a good job of memorizing it.

00:29:53.040 Um, and she had her talking points and she just stuck to them.

00:29:57.220 You know, she stuck to them the whole way and she gave pretty concise for her, especially

00:30:02.260 pretty concise, crisp, uh, answers.

00:30:07.540 And she put out a whole bunch of sound bites out there that could circulate. 1.00

00:30:10.480 And that's the game.

00:30:11.220 That's how you win these debates.

00:30:12.980 Trump style is much more, um, freewheeling.

00:30:17.740 Um, and, and kind of, uh, word association, um, stream of consciousness and these kinds

00:30:25.080 of debates, it just does, that style doesn't, doesn't work for the, it's just, you end up,

00:30:30.260 you end up with what we saw, which is kind of like you're going around in circles and you,

00:30:34.300 you hit a couple of good points, you have a couple of good moments, but then you keep

00:30:38.500 talking and you sort of step on your own good moments.

00:30:42.260 Um, it's a style that works really well for, uh, say his rallies.

00:30:47.320 I think it would work.

00:30:48.920 That's why I say if he could sit down with Joe Rogan, if Kamala would, if it would be

00:30:53.380 Kamala, Trump and Rogan, I'd give advantage Trump all day for that. 0.81

00:31:00.180 Cause that's, that is in Trump's wheelhouse.

00:31:03.240 We're having a, he's a freewheeling guy.

00:31:05.680 We're having a freewheeling conversation.

00:31:07.820 Uh, and Trump can hang in there.

00:31:10.720 He's not going to get flustered.

00:31:12.500 Uh, he's always got something to say now.

00:31:15.980 Now, now Kamala, it's not being, you know, it's not like, oh, you have 60 seconds go.

00:31:21.320 It's a conversation.

00:31:22.860 So now Kamala has to try to get a word in edgewise. 1.00

00:31:25.080 She'd have difficulty doing that. 0.89

00:31:26.500 She has to try to keep up and follow, you know, kind of follow the leader as, as Trump 0.96

00:31:32.320 is, uh, is talking.

00:31:33.540 And I think she would, it would be a disaster for her.

00:31:37.840 But again, that's why she's not going to do that.

00:31:40.280 She's not ever going to.

00:31:41.040 Um, so that's where we're at where we're, you have two candidates who could not be more

00:31:44.900 opposite, both ideologically, but also stylistically.

00:31:49.840 And Kamala is, is not going to walk into a scenario where it doesn't play to her strengths.

00:31:55.140 She's not ever going to do it.

00:31:57.540 Uh, Trump, I mean, to his credit, he's been willing to walk into scenarios that don't play

00:32:01.880 to his strengths as much.

00:32:02.740 Uh, but I think now you've done it.

00:32:06.000 Don't let's, we don't need to do that again for the same reason that she's not going to

00:32:09.300 do it.

00:32:09.640 So if she's not going to do it, why do you do it?

00:32:12.120 Um, and so I think you just leave that be and, uh, you, you, you don't need to say no

00:32:20.480 because it's not like you're scared.

00:32:21.860 You're saying, uh, yeah, I'd be happy to talk to you again.

00:32:26.720 Here are the scenarios where I would be willing to talk to you.

00:32:29.740 And by the way, I want to talk to you in, in, in places where it's the opposite of being

00:32:34.660 scared here.

00:32:35.140 It's like, I, I want to actually be able to have a conversation.

00:32:38.460 I don't want you to have all these guardrails and protections by the moderator, right?

00:32:44.020 I want to take the training wheels off and have a real discussion.

00:32:49.000 Um, and I think honestly, I, I, the more I think about it, I think, I think Trump should

00:32:55.500 come back and propose exactly that.

00:32:57.340 She, he should propose exactly.

00:32:59.160 Let's sit down with Joe Rogan, you and me, she's not ever going to do it, but, uh, then

00:33:05.560 no one can accuse him of being scared.

00:33:07.360 He doesn't want to talk to her.

00:33:09.620 He said, let's talk for three hours.

00:33:13.420 What do you say?

00:33:15.840 All right.

00:33:17.720 Biden was visiting firefighters in Pennsylvania yesterday.

00:33:20.400 Uh, and, uh, and an image came out of that meeting that was so bizarre that I thought

00:33:24.400 it was AI and I didn't believe it was real.

00:33:27.120 Um, and the image is, is him wearing a Trump hat.

00:33:30.240 You've probably seen this circulating online.

00:33:34.080 Yeah.

00:33:34.440 The first time I saw it, I thought, I thought it must be AI.

00:33:37.120 There's no way this guy put on a Trump hat.

00:33:40.260 Um, because why would he do that?

00:33:44.220 I mean, this is, this is optics one-on-one.

00:33:46.520 Everyone knows as a politician that you have to be very careful about the hats that you

00:33:49.800 wear in general.

00:33:51.300 I mean, for a long time, the rule, kind of the unspoken, unofficial rule for politicians

00:33:55.640 is that you just don't wear hats.

00:33:57.660 Now, Trump obviously is one of the, one of the many unspoken rules that he, uh, just discarded

00:34:03.660 to his benefit.

00:34:05.720 Um, and so he brought hats back for politicians.

00:34:08.180 That's one, one of the things that he did, one of the ways that he changed things was you

00:34:11.100 can wear hats again.

00:34:12.560 Um, but you gotta be careful about the hat that you're wearing.

00:34:17.740 And, uh, one of the things that made the Make America Great Again hat so, uh, genius

00:34:24.420 is that great branding, very noticeable, it's read, and it's got that message on there,

00:34:29.440 very simple message, everyone can see it.

00:34:32.040 Uh, what you don't do is put on your opponent's merchandise.

00:34:37.460 That you don't do.

00:34:38.340 I don't even know if we can call that an unspoken rule because it's more like that it's, it's

00:34:46.780 so obvious that you wouldn't even think it'd need to be a rule unspoken or spoken, but

00:34:51.800 apparently it was.

00:34:52.720 So here's the full clip.

00:34:54.220 Here's the full context, uh, that led to Biden putting on the Trump hat.

00:34:57.840 Watch.

00:34:58.800 Trump hat, I gave him my presidential hat, presidential seal on it.

00:35:03.260 You want to autograph it?

00:35:04.800 Oh, sure.

00:35:05.340 Do you remember your name?

00:35:09.200 I don't remember my name.

00:35:10.420 I'm slow.

00:35:10.960 You're an old part.

00:35:12.820 You're an old part.

00:35:14.620 Yeah, I know, man.

00:35:15.560 I'm an old guy.

00:35:16.480 And you're an old part, right?

00:35:18.100 I know you would know about that.

00:35:19.660 What?

00:35:20.620 I'll be an old.

00:35:21.520 Oh, I know.

00:35:22.960 All right.

00:35:23.720 I'm a young timer.

00:35:24.580 It reminds me of the guys I grew up with.

00:35:30.360 There was always one of those neighborhoods.

00:35:32.880 No, I'm a young man.

00:35:37.440 There you go, man.

00:35:39.020 I need that hat.

00:35:42.440 You want my autograph?

00:35:43.720 Hell no.

00:35:45.160 You don't know my name.

00:35:46.780 Come on.

00:35:47.300 Come on.

00:35:49.300 I ain't going that far.

00:35:50.760 Yeah.

00:35:52.020 Instead you're doing a selfie.

00:35:54.700 There you go.

00:35:56.100 Yeah.

00:35:58.020 Yeah.

00:35:59.580 Yeah.

00:36:01.260 Hey.

00:36:02.540 I'm proud of you now.

00:36:04.760 Huh?

00:36:07.220 Just remember, no eating dogs and cats.

00:36:10.540 All right.

00:36:11.940 Hey, they're good.

00:36:13.420 Thank you.

00:36:14.380 They're good.

00:36:15.040 If you cut your fried chicken, I hope you like the pizza.

00:36:17.760 You guys picked your fish again.

00:36:20.500 I don't know where to do it.

00:36:21.620 Okay.

00:36:23.800 So it's a pretty amazing clip for a number of reasons.

00:36:27.980 Really, the first thing is that you actually see glimmers of what made Biden, even though

00:36:34.520 he's been a terrible person his whole life and his whole career, he's a terrible guy, 0.90

00:36:37.660 but you see glimmers of what made him an effective politician back in the day, back before he lost

00:36:43.400 his mind.

00:36:43.800 Um, this kind of retail politics thing where he's just kind of, you know, out talking to

00:36:50.320 people.

00:36:50.720 And in this case, in an environment with people who obviously don't really like him and, uh,

00:36:55.160 he doesn't come off as nervous or scared or anything or awkward.

00:36:57.980 He's just kind of natural in that environment.

00:36:59.540 Um, it, it, in the same kind of way that Trump is, there was a video that was going viral.

00:37:06.220 There was, I don't know if it was going viral, but there's a video of Trump recently, not

00:37:09.860 kind of just nothing remarkable happens, but it's just him kind of working through the crowd,

00:37:14.800 talking to supporters at some event.

00:37:16.780 I don't know, but you can kind of see just very Trump's very good at this.

00:37:22.440 He's very good at that, especially just kind of talk, walk through the crowd, having really

00:37:28.280 brief, you know, little 32nd interactions with people going on to the next person looks

00:37:32.900 very natural, very comfortable.

00:37:35.520 Um, you can see there that Biden has that in him, used to have that.

00:37:40.660 Now he's lost his mind.

00:37:42.960 Kamala Harris does not.

00:37:44.500 Kamala Harris is the opposite of that. 0.84

00:37:46.180 Completely fake, stilted, awkward, uh, incapable of having a normal human interaction with anybody. 0.73

00:37:52.440 Um, so there's that.

00:37:55.940 If you want to give him credit for anything, it's that, but it's also amazing because of

00:38:00.220 the way, first of all, the way that Biden is being treated by the guy that he's talking

00:38:04.580 to, that guy just doesn't care at all.

00:38:07.420 He's talking to the president of the United States, doesn't care, uh, calls him an old 0.98

00:38:11.700 fart multiple, multiple times, you know, he's talking, calling the president an old fart. 0.90

00:38:19.060 And, you know, at a different time, in a different era, I would object to that because I would 0.55

00:38:24.320 say, Hey, even if you disagree with the president, you should show him respect.

00:38:29.680 Um, he's the president of the United States, right?

00:38:33.480 You should, you should, when it comes to introduce himself, you should stand up.

00:38:38.000 If that guy, I don't know if I put my foot in the mouth, maybe he can't stand or something.

00:38:41.160 He's assuming he's not disabled and he's able to stand, um, you should stand up and

00:38:46.580 you should show him respect. 0.99

00:38:47.580 You don't call the president an old fart. 0.97

00:38:48.940 That's what I would have said in a different time. 0.86

00:38:52.480 Um, because, because the office of the presidency deserves respect, even if the guy himself

00:38:59.080 is terrible as, as Biden is.

00:39:02.120 But the problem is that the office has been so incredibly diminished by the people who have

00:39:07.600 held it by the people in power, um, I mean, Joe Biden isn't even really the president. 0.99

00:39:15.940 He's a sad, pathetic, disgraced and disgraceful, deceitful, decrepit, broken down man, uh, who, 0.99

00:39:23.200 who's, you know, been on vacation for most of his term, doesn't know where he is, what 1.00

00:39:28.040 he's doing.

00:39:29.200 And the whole thing is such a joke that there's no way to respect it.

00:39:33.660 All of the respectableness has been drained out of the thing. 0.89

00:39:39.040 So, yeah, now it's like he deserves to be scoffed at and called an old fart because the 0.77

00:39:43.880 whole thing's such a joke.

00:39:44.940 And that's, and that's not something that we did.

00:39:47.480 That's this, these firefighters, Pennsylvania, they didn't do that.

00:39:50.760 It's not their fault.

00:39:52.520 It's the elites, people in power.

00:39:54.200 They have taken these, not just the office of the presidency, but, but the, the, you know,

00:40:02.260 the, the leadership positions that they hold and they have made a disgrace of it.

00:40:08.920 I mean, we, uh, there've been multiple incidents recently.

00:40:13.360 We've played on the show of some of the, the arguments that are broken out on Capitol Hill

00:40:18.440 during congressional hearings and stuff like that.

00:40:21.000 And you've got, and it's like a waffle house.

00:40:23.920 You've got these people yelling and cussing at each other and just, it's just, they are

00:40:29.160 not carrying themselves.

00:40:30.300 They are not treating their own office with any dignity whatsoever.

00:40:35.340 So, and after a while, you know, if you have a person who comes through and holds the office

00:40:41.080 and sort of acts in a, in a, in a disgraceful way and you have that every once in a while,

00:40:46.440 that's one thing, but it's just now there's no dignity to the ruling class at all.

00:40:52.780 No, Dave, no dignity.

00:40:55.020 Um, they have no reverence for their own, for their own position or they've reverence

00:40:59.960 for themselves, but not for the offices that they hold and certainly not for the country

00:41:04.900 that they're supposed to be serving.

00:41:07.520 And so they, that's what they've done.

00:41:08.980 They've drained the, what was respectable and dignified out of these offices.

00:41:13.980 So now we, we have no respect for them and we really shouldn't anymore.

00:41:20.960 But the most jarring and hilarious thing, of course, is to see Biden put the Trump hat

00:41:24.740 on.

00:41:25.920 Um, there are a few ways to interpret that. 0.88

00:41:31.620 One way is to say that Biden is of course demented and has no idea where he is or what 0.73

00:41:37.440 he's doing or who he is. 0.74

00:41:38.860 And that's true.

00:41:39.780 But it's also true that Biden hates Kamala, you know, he's bitter and angry.

00:41:45.680 He's resentful.

00:41:46.560 And I'm guessing that he wants Kamala to lose.

00:41:49.580 How could he not want her to lose?

00:41:52.460 Right?

00:41:52.900 I don't have any, I'm not claiming that I have some kind of insider information.

00:41:56.700 I don't, but I know how people work.

00:41:59.420 And I know that just based on how people work, it's basically impossible that he doesn't want

00:42:05.620 her to lose.

00:42:07.340 Just imagine, put yourself in his shoes for a minute.

00:42:10.460 If you were at your job, let's say, and you're, uh, mentoring somebody, some up and comer, right?

00:42:19.100 And then the person that you're mentoring goes to your boss and gets you fired and then takes

00:42:27.440 your job and gets the promotion that you were supposed to get.

00:42:30.860 There's no way that you'd be sitting on the sidelines rooting for that person to thrive

00:42:35.400 and succeed.

00:42:36.680 I don't care if you're the most humble and, and, uh, empathetic and selfless person in

00:42:40.480 the world, which Biden is none of those things.

00:42:42.940 But even then, there's no way that you, there's no way that you would want the decision to

00:42:49.140 fire you to be vindicated.

00:42:52.720 Because if that person succeeds, then all of a sudden it's like, well, I guess they were

00:42:58.240 right to fire you.

00:43:00.420 You don't want your successor to achieve the thing that they thought you couldn't achieve,

00:43:05.120 which is why they got rid of you for that person.

00:43:08.060 So he definitely hates her.

00:43:09.440 He's definitely rooting against her.

00:43:11.040 And, uh, it wouldn't surprise me if that's why he wore the hat.

00:43:17.500 It wouldn't surprise me if at some level he actually means it.

00:43:20.800 Maybe Biden will, uh, will campaign for Trump.

00:43:23.840 That's the one that everyone's, everyone's waiting.

00:43:27.120 What's the final surprise?

00:43:28.300 There's gotta be one.

00:43:29.580 This, this has been the most bizarre, uh, unexpected and surprising political season,

00:43:37.160 certainly of my lifetime.

00:43:38.740 And we've seen some weird ones.

00:43:41.620 When you look at the things that have happened just even the last couple of months, I mean,

00:43:45.180 multiple historically unprecedented or, or, you know, virtually unprecedented events have

00:43:52.300 happened.

00:43:52.940 So I think everyone is thinking there, there's gotta be one last thing, right?

00:43:58.040 The people that are scripting this, uh, this season of the show, they must have one last

00:44:02.540 surprise.

00:44:02.840 You can't, you can't stack all your big surprises, uh, early on in the season.

00:44:08.160 You gotta have something saved for, you know, episode nine or episode 10.

00:44:13.940 And what will it be?

00:44:15.100 And I'll tell you what, if I'm scripting this thing out, that's how I end it.

00:44:21.680 I've got Biden, uh, a couple of weeks before the election coming out on stage to campaign

00:44:27.920 for Trump.

00:44:28.440 It's never going to happen in a million years, but you gotta admit that that would be, that

00:44:33.680 would be quite an ending to this thing.

00:44:35.040 That would be, it wouldn't get, wouldn't get better than that.

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00:45:49.700 Well, this is it.

00:45:50.500 Tomorrow, our first ever theatrical release, Am I Racist?

00:45:53.340 Hits theaters nationwide.

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00:46:14.580 A few days ago, I played a trailer from the upcoming Will Ferrell documentary on Netflix called Will and Harper.

00:46:25.840 It's about a road trip that Will Ferrell apparently took with Harper Steele after Harper, a former head writer at SNL, announced that he's actually a woman.

00:46:34.060 It's never explained why a road trip was necessary or appropriate under those circumstances, but that's the premise.

00:46:43.720 His friend suddenly says he's really a woman, and so they hop in a car and start driving.

00:46:48.340 And the film looks about as terrible as you'd expect.

00:46:50.460 At one point, Will Ferrell says, hey, are you a worse driver now that you're a woman?

00:46:54.020 And then they chuckle, and then the scene keeps going, and Harper Steele says, yes, actually, and then they laugh even more.

00:47:00.780 So, it really subverts your expectations.

00:47:03.680 And by the way, that's as edgy as the humor will get, I guarantee you, in this thing.

00:47:07.420 That's it right there.

00:47:08.280 That was their one edgy joke.

00:47:10.560 Right?

00:47:11.000 They are really going up on the line there.

00:47:13.920 Made a joke about women drivers. 1.00

00:47:15.180 Wow, these guys really taking a risk with their comedy.

00:47:20.720 So, a film like this raises a lot of questions.

00:47:23.260 They're not the questions the filmmakers were hoping to raise, but it does raise them nonetheless.

00:47:26.640 And one of the big questions is why Will Ferrell and a lot of other comedians like him

00:47:30.140 suddenly decided to stop making funny and entertaining movies.

00:47:34.320 You know, it happened around a decade ago for reasons that remain unexplained,

00:47:38.820 although, you know, there are theories that one might have.

00:47:43.220 But the fact is we went from old school and stepbrothers to melodramatic road trips

00:47:48.240 about Will Ferrell's friend deciding that he wants to wear dresses.

00:47:52.060 So, what exactly happened?

00:47:52.980 And is there any remaining chance that Will Ferrell will, one day in the future,

00:47:56.720 once again make a movie that qualifies as a comedy?

00:47:59.420 Well, in a recent interview, Will Ferrell himself answered that last question with a resounding no.

00:48:03.900 And he did that by disavowing some of his old comedy for being insensitive.

00:48:08.820 And he did it in a way that's both humiliating and confusing at the same time.

00:48:11.960 And Variety reports, quote,

00:48:13.520 Will Ferrell is no longer interested in performing in drag for laughs.

00:48:16.820 During an interview on the New York Times, The Interview podcast,

00:48:20.720 alongside his longtime friend and former SNL head writer Harper Steele,

00:48:25.400 Ferrell had expressed a bit of regret over the Janet Reno's Fantasies sketch

00:48:29.960 from season 23 of the sketch comedy show.

00:48:32.320 The sketch featured Ferrell in drag as the eponymous attorney general,

00:48:37.620 with his appearance dressing up as a woman being used for laughs.

00:48:42.200 That's something I wouldn't choose to do now, Ferrell said,

00:48:44.560 when the Times noted the character hits a false note now.

00:48:48.160 And then Harper Steele adds this, quote,

00:48:50.000 I understand the laugh is a drag laugh. 1.00

00:48:53.140 It's, hey, look at this guy in a dress, and that's funny.

00:48:55.540 It's absolutely not funny.

00:48:57.360 It's absolutely a way that we should be able to live in the world.

00:49:00.200 A few things about this.

00:49:03.200 First of all, there is no one on the planet who, in the year 2024,

00:49:06.340 was thinking about the Janet Reno's Fantasies sketch from season 23 of the Saturday Night Live.

00:49:11.620 We're talking about a sketch from a season that aired 27 years ago.

00:49:15.060 Not even professional trans activists who are paid to get offended were talking about that.

00:49:19.540 Even the biggest fans of SNL on the planet, assuming they still exist,

00:49:22.320 were not talking about that.

00:49:24.020 If you pull up these sketches on YouTube, there's barely any views,

00:49:27.340 but just so you know which sketches we're talking about,

00:49:30.480 here's a brief clip of one of them.

00:49:32.760 Work, work, work.

00:49:34.460 If I'd known being attorney general was this hard, I would have stayed in Florida.

00:49:40.060 But just think, Simba, only 41 more White House videotapes,

00:49:44.160 and then we can watch Harriet the Spy.

00:49:47.240 There he is, Simba, Bill Clinton,

00:49:49.180 and he's having coffee with a bunch of Chinese people.

00:49:52.880 So you get the idea.

00:49:53.860 Will Ferrell's doing an impression of Janet Reno as attorney general at the time,

00:49:56.480 and people apparently thought the impression was amusing

00:49:58.980 because SNL had a whole series of sketches like this.

00:50:02.280 Here's one where Will Ferrell as Janet Reno was hosting awkward dance parties in her home, 1.00

00:50:06.860 and it was supposed to be funny because she takes herself extremely seriously,

00:50:09.520 so she's not the kind of person you'd expect to host a dance party in her basement. 1.00

00:50:12.340 You know, that's just to explain the joke.

00:50:13.720 That's the joke.

00:50:15.440 This is what they call irony.

00:50:17.740 It's a common tool of comedians, which Will Ferrell is not anymore.

00:50:21.280 But anyway, here it is.

00:50:22.620 And now, from the home of the Attorney General of the United States,

00:50:29.460 it's time for Janet Reno's Dance Party.

00:50:43.380 Hi, I'm Janet Reno.

00:50:45.060 Welcome to Janet Reno's Dance Party, coming to you live from my basement.

00:50:49.040 Say, I really like dancing to that song.

00:50:51.760 So the joke in these sketches is pretty clear, even if they're not exactly topical anymore.

00:50:56.960 But in SNL, they're not even really making fun of the idea of a man dressing as a woman.

00:51:02.460 They're mocking Janet Reno's demeanor.

00:51:04.440 And the way they did that was by casting a man to play Janet Reno.

00:51:07.360 It's sort of like how SNL cast a woman to play Ted Cruz very recently,

00:51:11.140 which, interestingly enough, did not trigger any outrage cycle at all.

00:51:14.280 And nobody said that that was somehow offensive to trans, quote-unquote, trans men or anything.

00:51:22.100 But it's supposed to be humorous because the audience thinks that the impression is accurate, and that's it.

00:51:26.980 What's changed, of course, is that back in 1997, no one seriously thought that a man transformed into a woman

00:51:31.620 simply by putting on a wig and some makeup.

00:51:33.840 That wouldn't have even occurred to a single man or woman in the audience.

00:51:38.840 And so back then, it was a punchline.

00:51:43.200 In fact, there was quite a lot of cross-dressing that went on in 90s comedies, 0.51

00:51:48.980 whether it's on SNL or in films.

00:51:53.140 You know, Mrs. Doubtfire, one famous example. 0.81

00:51:55.220 And the reason why this was done in comedy is that it was understood that it's inherently ridiculous

00:52:03.760 for a man to dress like a woman, so it's just a cheap way to get laughs. 0.90

00:52:08.440 So if there was any criticism, right, of the cross-dressing in film and comedies back then,

00:52:14.240 if there was any reason to criticize it, it was really just that it was just cheap.

00:52:18.640 It's like putting on a funny wig to get a laugh.

00:52:21.840 Who would ever try to get a laugh out of putting on a funny wig in a film?

00:52:27.020 I can't imagine.

00:52:28.340 But anyway, gender ideology has taken over now, and so all that changes, 0.85

00:52:33.320 and now we have to take this inherently ridiculous thing seriously.

00:52:36.720 And now that Will Ferrell's friend wants to pretend that he's a woman 30 years later,

00:52:40.320 he has to go back and disavow the sketch.

00:52:42.700 It's retroactively not funny, right?

00:52:45.840 Now they're doing the meme where they're crossing their arms and staring at their own material

00:52:50.680 and saying, that's not funny.

00:52:53.500 Not funny.

00:52:54.940 Doing that to themselves.

00:52:57.120 Because they need to tear down anything that might remind people of a time not too long ago 0.96

00:53:01.520 when the world wasn't completely insane and used to recognize ridiculous things as ridiculous.

00:53:07.280 When this is the standard, you can't have comedy.

00:53:09.000 It's just not possible.

00:53:10.420 When you have to bow to the demands of pathological narcissists,

00:53:13.140 people who object to sketches from the 90s that no one's talking about anymore,

00:53:16.400 then comedy is more trouble than it's worth.

00:53:18.240 And Ferrell knows that, presumably, but he's made enough money,

00:53:21.720 so he's a political activist now apologizing for his previous sins back when he was a comedian.

00:53:27.040 There's a lot of that going around.

00:53:28.220 The cast members of Friends, another show from the 90s that no one had a problem with at the time,

00:53:32.900 some of them are now disavowing their own show.

00:53:36.140 Us Weekly reports, quote,

00:53:37.100 While Adam Goldberg looks back at his time on Friends with Fondness,

00:53:40.980 he also recognizes criticisms the show has received in the 30 years since it's first premiered.

00:53:45.380 In terms of diversity, looking back, it seems insane, Goldberg's stated in an interview with The Independent.

00:53:51.160 I've heard black people speak about this, and it's like, you never expected to see yourself, 0.55

00:53:55.080 so when you didn't, it was not a surprise you ended up identifying to characters irrespective of their race. 0.69

00:54:00.640 In other words, Friends was too white.

00:54:04.780 Never mind the fact that in the real world, people don't go out and recruit token diversity candidates to round out their friend group.

00:54:11.000 There's nothing unrealistic about, you know, a few white people being friends.

00:54:16.500 There's nothing wrong with that, one would think.

00:54:19.220 People don't choose the members of their social circles based on racial quotas.

00:54:23.080 That would be insane, to use Adam Goldberg's words.

00:54:25.620 Now, obviously, there are about a million reasons why a group of Friends might be racially homogenous,

00:54:31.700 and they have nothing to do whatsoever with racism,

00:54:33.840 but in Hollywood, the only explanation for the existence of a group of people who are mostly white is that racism occurred somewhere.

00:54:39.000 Therefore, we apparently need token diversity characters in every single show,

00:54:42.600 whether it's fantasy or sci-fi or sitcom like Friends.

00:54:45.660 And more than that, we need to apologize for all previous shows and films that don't align with this new racial obsession.

00:54:51.840 Goldberg's co-star Jennifer Aniston made a similar observation not too long ago, quote,

00:54:55.620 There's a whole generation of people, kids, who are now going back to episodes of Friends and find them offensive.

00:55:01.140 Aniston, who starred as Rachel Green, told AFP in March 2023,

00:55:04.580 There were things that were never intentional, and others, well, we should have thought it through,

00:55:09.140 but I don't think there was a sensitivity like there is now.

00:55:12.920 Without addressing specific storylines and characters, Aniston, 55, noted that it's become tricky for comedians to make certain jokes.

00:55:19.100 In the past, you could joke about a bigot and have a laugh. That was hysterical.

00:55:22.900 It was about educating people on how ridiculous people were, she said. 0.96

00:55:26.280 And now we're not allowed to do that. 0.93

00:55:27.920 Everybody needs funny. The world needs humor.

00:55:30.540 We can't take ourselves too seriously, especially in the United States.

00:55:32.940 Everyone is far too divided, close quote.

00:55:35.860 Of course, the fact that people are divided is describing the symptom, not the underlying problem.

00:55:42.540 We are divided between people who understand human biology and people who think that a dress can transform a man into a woman.

00:55:47.880 We are divided between people who understand that sometimes friend groups happen to be white

00:55:53.560 and people who insist that every friend group must consist of a token minority or two.

00:55:59.040 That's really a division between sanity and insanity,

00:56:02.860 and the people in the latter group have a lot more power in Hollywood at the moment.

00:56:08.100 To restate, now we're not allowed to do that, Jennifer Aniston said. 0.98

00:56:11.900 All that's allowed, apparently, is garbage like Will and Harper, 0.98

00:56:16.180 a documentary featuring aging ex-comedians lecturing us about transgenderism 0.99

00:56:20.720 as they drive around randomly for no discernible purpose.

00:56:24.900 This is supposedly what progress looks like.

00:56:27.820 But, you know, in reality, it's just cowardice and narcissism.

00:56:32.140 It's the reason we don't have any mainstream comedy films on the level of old school anymore.

00:56:36.740 And that is why Will Ferrell and all the other comedians who are disavowing their old work

00:56:42.700 because they're too weak to stand up for themselves are today canceled.

00:56:47.220 That'll do it for the show today.

00:56:48.040 Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.

00:56:49.020 Talk to you tomorrow, Friday, which is the day of, the big day,

00:56:53.040 the day of the release of Am I Racist?

00:56:55.600 You can still get your tickets at miracist.com.

00:56:57.900 I'll talk to you then.

00:56:59.880 Have a great day. Godspeed.

00:57:01.020 I'll talk to you then.

00:57:31.020 Here's my certifications.

00:57:32.500 What you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness. 0.71

00:57:35.200 This is more for you than this for you.

00:57:36.180 Is America inherently racist?

00:57:37.720 The word inherent is challenging there.

00:57:39.700 I want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument.

00:57:42.860 America is racist to its bones.

00:57:44.740 So inherently. 0.99

00:57:45.580 Yeah, this country is a piece of...

00:57:47.280 Oh, my God. 0.99

00:57:48.660 White folks. 1.00

00:57:49.740 Trash. 1.00

00:57:50.240 White supremacy. 1.00

00:57:51.020 White woman. 1.00

00:57:51.600 White boy.

00:57:52.120 Is there a black person around here?

00:57:53.420 What's a black person right here? 0.86

00:57:54.760 Does he not exist?

00:57:55.520 They don't say I'm racist.

00:57:57.520 Hi, Robin.

00:57:58.080 Hi. What's your name?

00:57:59.400 I'm Matt.

00:57:59.820 I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful.

00:58:02.520 Never be too careful.

00:58:03.400 They gonna say you racist.

00:58:04.320 Buy your tickets now.

00:58:05.420 In theaters September 13th.

00:58:06.700 Rated PG-13.

The Matt Walsh Show - September 12, 2024

Ep. 1441 - Diversity Killed His Son, But He Wishes A White Man Did It？

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