Ep. 1456 - Why Debate “Moderators” Prove That The Media Is The True Enemy Of The American People
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The media has done a lot of fact checking during this election, and especially during the debates. Unfortunately, every single fact check has been wrong. We ll go through the list today. Also, Kamala Harris takes the side of the dock worker union that s threatening to cripple the economy. A Lib journalist gets horribly offended when a flight attendant tells her to have a blessed day. And Jussie Smollett emerges from hiding to explain to the world why he s still a victim. All of that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the media has done a lot of fact-checking during this election,
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and especially during the debates. Unfortunately, every single fact-check has been wrong. We'll go
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through the list today. Also, Kamala Harris takes the side of the dock worker union that's
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threatening to cripple the economy. A lib journalist gets horribly offended when a
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flight attendant tells her to have a blessed day. And Jussie Smollett emerges from hiding
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to explain to the world why he's still a victim. All of that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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between the presidential and vice presidential debates, there was one glaring similarity. The
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moderators weren't able to keep their mouths shut. In the first debate, the rules allowed the
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moderators to fact check, whatever that means exactly. In the second debate, the rules didn't allow
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fact checking. But in both cases, the moderators couldn't help themselves anyway. They weighed in
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over and over again. And every single time, they interjected to help whatever Democrat was standing
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at the podium, of course. And the format of these fact checks was always the same, too. The moderators
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would wait for Donald Trump or J.D. Vance to stop speaking. And then they'd hastily recite a rehearsed
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one-line correction. And then they'd immediately try to change the subject so that Trump or Vance
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couldn't respond. And this would be disgraceful, even if these moderators were telling the truth.
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The whole point of a debate is to hear from the candidates, not the moderators. But
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even if you disagree on that point, I mean, even if you think that it's good for the moderators to
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intervene when they think a candidate is lying, it's still not clear why they would refuse to let
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the candidates respond to their fact checks. This wasn't an accident. It was how they approached
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every single one of these fact checks across two debates and two sets of moderators. And it's worth
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figuring out why that is. Now, it could be that many on the left don't engage in any kind of critical
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thought anymore. They just look at the consensus view as reflected by the fact check. And they
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declare that no further questioning is allowed. They genuinely can't conceive of a situation in which
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there might be a consensus, but the consensus might be mistaken. On the other hand, it could also be that
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in this context, the moderators realized that their fact checks would fall apart under any form of
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scrutiny. And indeed, with every day that passes, that's exactly what's happening. One by one, every
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single one of these fact checks from these two debates is collapsing. And these are not small errors
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that we're talking about here. Take, for example, this moment from the debate between Donald Trump and
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Kamala Harris. Trump was asked about his position on abortion and he gave a long answer. And then
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the moderator, Lindsay Davis, fired off a one line fact check before pivoting immediately to Kamala
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Harris. Watch. They have abortion in the ninth month. They even have, and you can look at the
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governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of West Virginia, not the current governor is doing an
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excellent job. But the governor before, he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do
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with the baby. In other words, we'll execute the baby. And that's why I did that, because that
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predominates, because they're radical. The Democrats are radical in that. And her vice presidential pick,
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which I think is a horrible pick, by the way, for our country, because he is really out of it.
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But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also says
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execution after birth. It's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born,
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is okay. And that's not okay with me. Each individual state is voting. It's the vote of
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the people now. It's not tied up in the federal government. I did a great service in doing it.
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It took courage to do it. And the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it. And I give tremendous
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credit to those six justices. There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby
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after it's born. Madam Vice President, want to get your response to President Trump?
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Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies. And that's not actually a surprising fact.
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Now, at the time, a lot of people pointed out the obvious problem with this fact check. Donald Trump
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never actually said that it was legal to kill babies after they were born. But he did say that
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it was happening. And he cited a very specific and well-known piece of evidence. The former governor of
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Virginia, Ralph Northam, strongly suggested to a radio show in 2019 that in certain cases,
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such as fetal abnormalities, his bill would allow doctors to kill children after they're born.
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Actually, he didn't really even suggest it. He flat out said it. Quote, if a mother is in labor,
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I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant will be delivered. The infant will be kept
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comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired.
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And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.
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Now, defenders of Ralph Northam recognized how twisted and demonic that quote is. So for the
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past several years, they've insisted that he wasn't talking about euthanizing children who
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survived failed abortions. And they claim the governor wasn't actually talking about allowing
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newborn infants to die either. Presumably, that's the spin that Lindsay Davis had in mind when she
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corrected Donald Trump during this debate. She declared with authority that there's no state in
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the entire country where it's legal to kill children after they're born. What was missing
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from her fact check is what John Solomon at Just the News has now proven, which is that
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children are being born alive in this country, and then doctors are allowing them to die without even
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attempting any life-saving intervention. It turns out that until 2023, the state of Minnesota kept
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records on how many infants were born alive during failed abortions. And those records show that from
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2019 to 2021, during Tim Walz's tenure as governor, at least eight infants were born alive following a
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botched abortion. Not a single one of those infants received life-saving care. The two infants in 2021
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received comfort care. All eight of the children died. So all of them were left to die, were allowed to
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die, which is morally indistinguishable from directly killing them. It's the same thing.
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And none of the doctors involved were ever investigated or charged for any of this, even though at the time,
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Minnesota law required, quote, responsible medical personnel to use, quote, all reasonable measures
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consistent with good medical practice to preserve the life and health of the born-alive infant.
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Well, they didn't, and they weren't charged with anything. But just to cover his basis, Tim Walz changed the law
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in 2023. And now the law does not require life-saving measures at all for infants who
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survive abortions. Instead, it requires that doctors care for the infant who was born alive
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without specifying exactly what that care entails. So they changed the law so that it no longer specifies
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that you actually have to, you know, give life-saving care to the infant. The law also gets rid of the
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reporting requirement for the state health agency. So nobody can learn how many children are being
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killed or allowed to die. Again, the same thing after they're born. Now, if you look at the records
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that Solomon found, you can see why Democrats might want to cover them up. They're as ghoulish as you can
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imagine. Here's the July 2020 report for Minnesota, for example. Quote,
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In one instance, fetal anomalies were reported, but residual cardiac activity was present at two
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minutes. Care of fetus was transferred to the second medical doctor. No measures taken to preserve
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life were reported, and the infant did not survive. In one instance, comfort care measures were provided
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as planned, and the infant did not survive. In one instance, the infant was pre-viable. No measures
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taken to preserve life were reported, and the infant did not survive. Now, notice that the
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report doesn't even bother to clarify whether life-saving measures could have saved some of
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these infants. That's not a piece of information that the health department decided to track for
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some reason, because it's irrelevant to them. They don't recognize that the infant has any right
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to be alive in the first place. But the report is very clear on the fact that children who survived
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abortions were consistently allowed to die in the state of Minnesota without any attempt by a doctor
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to save them. No measures taken to preserve life is a consistent theme here. You don't get any more
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information than that. And rather than provide any more transparency on this point, the state under Tim
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Walls has gone ahead and shut down record-keeping entirely. They want us to know less about how these
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infants are being treated, and how many infants are being allowed to die. The dispatch looked into this
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reporting, and they confirmed that it's all accurate. Quote, Charlie Kirk and Solomon's claims are correct.
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Minnesota Department of Health documents show that eight infants were born alive during abortion procedures
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between 2019 and 2022, and in 2023, Walls signed legislation that repealed most of a statute designed to
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protect infants born alive after an abortion attempt. So the truth is that Lindsay Davis either has no idea what
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she was talking about, or she was deliberately lying, probably the latter. Either way, it's beyond
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reprehensible that no mainstream media organization in this country has bothered to do any investigative
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reporting on this topic. Apparently, only John Solomon is interested in the question of whether or not
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children are being systematically killed or allowed to die after they're born. The most we can expect from ABC
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is a drive-by fact check during a presidential debate with a lot of snark and no substance whatsoever. And also, by the
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way, just so you understand, allowing infants to die after they're born is the mainstream view of the Democratic Party.
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This is what nearly every mainstream Democrat believes in this. Because politically and ideologically, they
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have to, or they believe they have to. Because if a baby survives abortion and you provide medical care to
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the child at that point, then you are acknowledging two things. One, you're acknowledging that the baby is a
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human being. Two, you're acknowledging that abortion is an act of violence that has been committed against this
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human. I mean, you're providing medical care to try to reverse what you were just doing to the baby. I mean,
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that's, think about it. The doctor is trying to kill the baby. The baby survives. And now, if he's providing
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medical care, now he's trying to reverse the thing that he was just doing to the baby 10 seconds ago.
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So, that's why every Democrat, now they're not going to talk about it. They don't want, they obviously
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don't want to talk about it. And they'll flat out deny it because they're a bunch of lying scumbags.
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But no, you're not going to find any mainstream Democrat who actually comes out and says, yeah,
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yeah, you got to provide medical care for the reasons I just gave. They cannot acknowledge
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the violence of abortion or the personhood and humanity of the child. And this alone should be,
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I mean, the fact, even if it was, even if it was just eight, just eight infants in one state over
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the course of three or four years who were just left in the corner of Rome and allowed to die,
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even if that was all, it should be a major national scandal. It should be one of the biggest scandals in
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the country right now that everybody cares about, everybody's talking about. And it's not just
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those, those eight, because this is happening all across the country. Um, and yet we just gloss over
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it. So to get a sense of how big, uh, even aside from beyond this, this one incredibly important
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issue to get a sense of how these fact check work, fact checks work, uh, in general, um, I went back
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and looked at every single fact check from these two debates and every single one of them was either
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obviously false or extremely misleading. Now I already covered the FBI's crime numbers,
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which supposedly show that, uh, violent crime is down. The moderator, David Muir cited those statistics
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in his fact check, uh, during the Kamala Trump debate without providing any context, including
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the missing law enforcement agencies who didn't report data or the DOJ's report showing that crime
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has actually surged under the Biden Harris administration. Then there was his claim that
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no credible reports indicated that animals were being eaten in Springfield. Watch.
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I just want to clarify here, you rigged up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC news did reach out to
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the city manager there. Uh, he told us there had been no credible reports of specific claims of
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pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.
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Well, I've seen people on television. Let me just say here, this is the people on television say my
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dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good thing to say for a
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city manager. I'm not taking this from television. But the people are on television saying their dog was
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eaten. So the city manager says it's not credible to suggest that domesticated animals are being killed in
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the migrant community. And the moderator and Kamala Harris mocked Trump for saying that he saw those
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reports on television. Then it turns out that back in March, the Springfield city manager himself
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did say that there were quite a few credible reports of horrid things happening to domestic
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animals in Haitian communities in the town. Watch.
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One of the things that hurt that I heard that bothered me very much, I've actually had quite a few
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people contact me here lately, um, is some pretty horrid things occurring to domesticated animals
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in the neighborhood. Um, we've had some stuff in the park, um, that, um, again, they, they're being
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taken advantage of for reasons other than, and if you shake your head, Brian, no, no, I asked,
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I asked me if there was proof. People that have confided in me have asked me for anonymity. I'm not,
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I can't give their names up. I mean, we haven't seen the proof that you're, and I've heard,
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I've heard about it. Yeah. So that's another fact check. That was just a complete lie. And
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actually Trump called it out in real time. He said the city manager was probably just trying
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to give a political answer when ABC news called. And, uh, and that's exactly what was happening.
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So let's go down the list. There was also this fact check from the debate, uh, two days ago. Watch
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scientists say climate change makes these hurricanes larger, stronger, and more deadly because of the
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historic rainfall. Another drive by fact check that, uh, the candidates were not allowed to
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respond to. And it's also completely false as I've outlined many times before. Here's how Chris
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Martz, the same meteorology student that I mentioned the other day on the show responded to this
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particular fact check quote, there's absolutely zero evidence that climate change makes hurricanes
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larger in size, i.e. diameter. There's little evidence that hurricanes are becoming stronger.
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The number of category three to five hurricanes globally exhibit no statistical significant
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trends since 1980. This is backed by peer reviewed research. There's no evidence that hurricanes are
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becoming deadlier because of better warning coordination. Deaths are down by more than 75%
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since 1900 because of that. Chris Martz, again, is a meteorology student and he knows enough to check
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the actual data before he makes wildly false claims about what scientists say. So what exactly is the
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excuse of a major media organization for doing this in front of 40 million people? Whatever that excuse
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is, they're still doing it long before, long after the debate is over. Around midnight, CBS News posted
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this headline quote, during the vice presidential debate, Senator J.D. Vance claimed Vice President
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Harris became the appointed border czar. CBS News confirmed, uh, rates this as false. Oh, they rated it
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as false. Well, that's all there is to it then. The fact check claims that Harris was just assigned to
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investigate the root causes of migration rather than to oversee enforcement of the law. But if you pull up
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articles from CBS's own website, you'll find out very quickly that they're lying. Here's an article
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from 2021, for example, quote, Harris to lead administration's efforts to stem migration at
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the border. President Biden announced Wednesday that he had tapped Vice President Kamala Harris to
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lead the administration's efforts to stem migration at the southern border. Not just to investigate why
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migration is happening, but to stem the migration. At this point, I'm honestly looking for a single
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fact check that pans out. From what I could tell, none of them have any validity whatsoever. It's
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actually kind of incredible. And of course, there was no fact check that was more incredible than
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this one, uh, which we talked about the other day. Let's see it again. Temporary protected status.
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Well, Margaret, but thank you. Senator, we have so much to get to. Margaret, I think it's important
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because we're going to turn out of the economy. Thank you. Margaret, the rules were that you guys
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weren't going to fact check. And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's
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actually going on. So there's an application called the CBP One app, where you can go on as an illegal
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migrant, apply for asylum or apply for parole and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala
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Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a green card and waiting for 10
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years. That is the facilitation of a legal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership.
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Thank you, Senator, for describing the legal process. We have so much to get to, Senator.
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That's right. Those laws have been on the books since 1990.
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Thank you, gentlemen. The CBP One app has not been on the books since 1990. It's something that
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Kamala Harris created, Margaret. Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.
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We have so much we want to get to. Thank you for explaining the legal process.
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So that was egregious for all the reasons we talked about, uh, yesterday. Uh, you know,
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cutting the mics. I mean, there's just no reason why you should ever cut the mics during a
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presidential, vice presidential debate, especially cutting the mics so that, uh, the moderators can
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talk. Nobody cares about you. Nobody wants to hear from you. This is not about you. You are
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totally irrelevant as the moderator. You are completely irrelevant. Your opinions, your everything,
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irrelevant. We don't care. So cutting the mics so the moderators could talk is just, it's insane.
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So the moderators decided to break the rules to enter the debate on behalf of Kamala Harris.
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Um, yes, J.D. Vance was right that to the extent these tens of thousands of Haitians are
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legally in the country, it's only because the federal government has decided to bend the rules
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and award them mass amnesty. And yes, it's comical that the moderator doesn't fact check
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Tim Walz's claim that this has been going on to the same extent since the nineties.
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But in retrospect, you can kind of see why the moderators decided to cut the microphones. After
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all, every single one of their fact checks up to this point had been wrong. Some of them were
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called out in real time while others fell apart immediately on social media. And now after all
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that, they realized that yet another one of their fact checks was blowing up in their faces. So they
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pressed the panic button. At this point, the only viable solution as I've been advocating for a long
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time is to eliminate moderators from future debates entirely. Um, they've inserted themselves
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repeatedly into the discussion only to spread falsehoods and confuse the issues. And they
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haven't been, um, uh, you know, right about, uh, they haven't been wrong on insignificant topics
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either. They've been wrong about really significant things, whether illegal aliens are killing animals.
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They've been wrong about how many Americans are being victimized every year by violent crimes.
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They've been wrong about whether children are being allowed to die after they're born.
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These, uh, mistakes, quote unquote, only go in one direction. And that's for a reason,
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which is that they're not mistakes at all. The truth is that there are very powerful forces
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in this country that want to enable these atrocities. And after these moderators are all discarded
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along with their useless fact checks, we need to make sure that those ghouls never hold power
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Daily Wire reports, Vice President Kamala Harris sided Wednesday with dock workers who launched a massive
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strike this week that threatens to cripple the economy. Harris said, quote, this strike is about fairness,
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foreign owned shipping companies have made record profits and executive compensation has grown.
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The longshoremen who play a vital role transporting essential goods across America deserve a fair share
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of these record profits. Harris also threw in a bar better opponent, accusing former President
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Donald Trump of making empty promises to workers and promising that she will have workers backs and
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back to a time before workers had the freedom to organize. Donald Trump makes empty promises after empty
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promise to American workers but never delivers. He thinks our economy should only work for those
00:23:38.580
who own the big skyscrapers, not those who actually build them. The dock workers union has donated more
00:23:44.860
than $1.6 million to Democrats. Union President Harold Daggett endorsed Joe Biden. And Daggett himself made
00:23:56.020
$728,000 last year as union president, plus another $173,000 as President Emeritus of the New Jersey
00:24:03.720
local. So he's at about $900,000 this guy's making. Close to a million.
00:24:11.180
Okay, so there are, this is, and I mentioned this yesterday, this is starting to look more and more like a setup.
00:24:18.680
This whole dock worker strike thing. I mean, there are two possibilities. And the first possibility
00:24:25.420
is that it's all what it appears to be on the surface. So you have this millionaire union boss
00:24:30.520
living in a mansion with his Bentley making $900,000 a year, who's now threatening to cause grave harm to
00:24:38.660
American families in order to enrich himself and his friends. Dock workers who were already offered a 50%
00:24:45.700
raise, which is substantial, but they want a 77% raise, I think. In spite of the fact that
00:24:56.060
by global standards, our dock workers are extremely slow and inefficient, mostly because they've rejected
00:25:04.640
all forms of automation. So by global standards, this is a subpar job is being done and they want
00:25:13.180
a 77% raise as a reward. And they're willing to cripple the economy and harm your family in order
00:25:18.780
to get it. That's what's happening on the surface. If that's what this really is, then it's unjustifiable
00:25:29.920
from a moral perspective to hold the American economy and American families hostage so that you,
00:25:37.100
who's already well-paid can just make more money. Especially as, as we talked about yesterday that
00:25:45.140
they don't even really have any examples. They're not even, they're hardly even claiming that they're
00:25:51.900
being mistreated or anything like that. It's just, they just want more money. You know, they just want
00:25:57.340
more. Um, and according to them, they're willing to, they don't care who, they don't care who gets
00:26:04.940
hurt. They'll cause harm to million, hundreds of millions of people. And that's what it takes.
00:26:10.900
They just want more money. And, uh, okay. I mean, if that's the attitude you want to have,
00:26:16.700
but you're definitely not the good guy, like you are the bad guy. It's possible. This could be a
00:26:22.140
dispute where both sides are bad guys. That happens a lot, but you're definitely a bad guy.
00:26:28.980
Um, the only other thing we heard in terms of specific demands, well, they want a lot more
00:26:35.520
money. We also heard yesterday that they don't feel appreciated. People don't appreciate us.
00:26:42.460
Grow up. Okay. Nobody feels appreciated. Nobody does. No one does.
00:26:48.180
What do you want? Do you need the whole country to get together and throw you a pizza party?
00:26:54.180
Make a thank you note? How much ass kissing do you grown men require?
00:27:02.780
How much appreciation are you giving to other people who do important jobs?
00:27:08.540
So, uh, that's one possibility, but that's only if it's all legitimate. The other possibility,
00:27:14.240
which to me seems increasingly likely is that this is being staged, uh, to give Kamala a big win
00:27:20.900
heading into the election. Um, it would be a perfect fake story for her, right? I mean,
00:27:28.520
it lines up perfectly. The dock workers are going on strike. The economy is going to be crippled.
00:27:35.040
Um, she's, she's losing the union vote increasingly.
00:27:44.300
So what do you do about that? Well, she takes the dock worker side,
00:27:48.940
earns points with the unions, brokers a deal, a deal that in this scenario is already inevitable.
00:27:55.360
It's already on the table. Like she's not actually doing anything, but it's all for show. It's a big
00:28:00.380
pageant and the strike is averted. And now she has saved the economy. She's pandered to the unions
00:28:08.160
and she can present herself as the ultimate deal maker undercutting Trump's, you know, big selling
00:28:14.300
point. So that could be what's happening here. And if that is what's happening, we'll know in the next,
00:28:19.960
we'll know pretty soon. And if that's the plan, then it's pretty clever. That's devious,
00:28:25.420
dishonest, evil, but it is clever. I guess it's a question of whether Kamala or at least her
00:28:31.520
handlers are clever enough to have thought of a plan like that. Am I giving them too much credit
00:28:38.940
by thinking that this might be, that this is all a setup and this is the plan here? Um, I don't know,
00:28:47.100
but as I said, we'll find out it is the timing is just, uh, it, it, it's the timing is really
00:28:56.920
convenient. Well, it's either really convenient or really inconvenient for the Democrats because if
00:29:02.160
it's not a setup and they actually are going on strike and the strike lasts till past the election,
00:29:07.660
well, then it is going to cripple the economy. That's obviously going to hurt the incumbent
00:29:11.720
anymore. And Kamala Harris is the incumbent, but these are all Democrats who donate to Democrats.
00:29:17.580
So would they do that, uh, right before an election? It's, it's, it's hard to believe.
00:29:23.900
All right. The guardian has this report, this rather unfortunate report. We must, uh, we must say
00:29:31.240
Melania Trump made an extraordinary declaration and an eagerly awaited memoir to be published a month
00:29:37.600
from election day. She's a passionate supporter of a woman's right to control her own body.
00:29:41.720
Including the right of abortion. The Republican nominee's wife, uh, writes amid a campaign in
00:29:46.960
which Donald Trump's, uh, Donald Trump's threats to women's reproductive rights have played a central
00:29:51.120
role. So the guardians do a little, do a little bit of editorializing, not a little bit, but, uh,
00:29:57.080
she wrote, it is imperative to guarantee that women have autonomy in deciding their preference
00:30:01.820
of having children based on their own convictions, free from any intervention or pressure from the
00:30:06.660
government. Why should anyone other than the woman herself have the power to determine what she does
00:30:10.500
with her own body? A woman's fundamental right of individual liberty to her own life grants her
00:30:15.460
the authority to terminate her pregnancy. If she wishes, restricting a woman's right to choose
00:30:20.220
whether to terminate an unwanted pregnancy is the same as denying her control over her own body.
00:30:24.340
I've carried this belief with me throughout my entire adult life. So this is a full on pro
00:30:29.560
abortion. This is not even, uh, you know, we believe in exceptions, life of the mother and all that
00:30:34.580
kind of stuff. This is just full on. This is the view of abortion that Kamala Harris has.
00:30:40.360
Um, it is radically, it is in fact radically pro abortion. And that's what Melania Trump is saying.
00:30:45.240
Now, a couple of things about this. First of all, just to respond to the argument that Melania is
00:30:55.140
making and she is making an argument. She's put it in a book and she's putting it out there for the
00:31:00.460
world. So, uh, we should respond to the argument and, uh, it's a bad argument. It's a familiar
00:31:08.740
argument. It's the same one we hear from pro abortion people all the time. And it's just a
00:31:12.860
really bad argument. Okay. You've heard me say it a million times. So now here's a million, a million
00:31:19.200
in one, but this is not about the woman's body. It is not a question of what the woman does with her
00:31:29.420
own body. There is another body in the mix here. That is what we're talking about. And the child's
00:31:39.580
body is his own body. This is not the child's body in the womb is not an extension of the woman's body.
00:31:48.020
It is not a limb or an organ. Okay. Biologically it's not, it is a whole other entity and you can call
00:31:58.020
that entity what you want. You can use the word fetus as a, as a euphemism. If you want, I don't
00:32:02.760
care what, I don't care what words you use. You can make up your own word, but what you cannot deny
00:32:09.900
scientifically and biologically is that this, that this is a separate body, a separate entity.
00:32:15.700
And that entity is alive. If he's not alive, then the abortion wouldn't be necessary.
00:32:22.640
And he is human because human is a species. And if he's not that species, then what the hell species
00:32:32.420
is he? So we've established that this is a separate body. It is living and it is human.
00:32:40.740
All three of those things are not up for discussion. Those are just facts. Okay.
00:32:49.840
It is a, it, the sun is at the center of our solar system. Like it's a fact like that.
00:32:55.520
You could argue it you, but you're just wrong. Like if you continue arguing past that,
00:33:01.880
the argument's over. You can keep talking, but the argument is actually over because we've
00:33:06.720
said something that's a fact that's undeniable and, uh, and it's self-evident. So that's what
00:33:12.740
we're talking about. Um, now, yes, the, the, the child's body is dependent upon the mother's
00:33:21.820
body for survival. That's true. So are we saying that if another person's body depends on you for
00:33:32.260
survival, you automatically have the moral and legal rights to directly kill, uh,
00:33:41.420
that other person because they depend on you for survival. That's the argument pro boards are
00:33:48.200
making. That's the argument Melania Trump is making. Uh, although they won't come out and
00:33:52.440
actually say that because that is the actual argument is not, Oh, it's the woman's body.
00:33:56.740
Cause it's not the woman's body. Their actual argument is this separate body depends on the
00:34:02.040
woman for survival. Therefore she has the, she, she has, she gets to be judged during an executioner.
00:34:06.860
Uh, she has the moral right to kill the child. And, um, uh, uh, you know, that is less a scientific
00:34:14.900
argument than it is a moral argument. And I think it's a morally deranged argument,
00:34:19.100
especially because the child, yes, is dependent on the mother for survival in the womb. Guess what?
00:34:30.720
But the child will also be dependent on the mother outside of the womb.
00:34:36.540
Like singularly dependent on the mother, uh, for a long time outside of the womb, not just in the
00:34:46.420
first couple hours. An infant child is totally vulnerable, totally helpless.
00:34:54.940
And is completely dependent on, um, on his, uh, parents and particularly his mother for survival
00:35:05.280
and the mother's body. That's what breastfeeding is. And now you could point out that, well, yeah,
00:35:11.480
the woman is not legally required to breastfeed. True, but the woman is legally required to either
00:35:20.260
breastfeed the child or provide a, uh, uh, a substitute for breastfeeding legally required
00:35:28.080
to do it. If she were to say, you know what? It's my body. I don't, it's not, it's not my
00:35:33.440
responsibility. So I'm not going to breastfeed this child. I'm not going to get, I'm not going
00:35:37.300
to give him any substitute for breastfeeding, uh, my body. I'm taking control of my body and
00:35:42.120
I'm going to do what I want. And that's it. If she says that the child starves to death and
00:35:48.960
guess what happens there? She goes to prison and it's going to be no use her saying, well,
00:35:55.880
I want to do what I want with my own body. No, no, no. Um, you have a, you have a special
00:35:59.980
responsibility to that child. You don't have a special responsibility necessarily to the
00:36:06.400
child across the street. If the child across the street starves to death, God forbid, we're
00:36:11.400
not going to put you in jail for that. Okay. Children all over the world, horrible things
00:36:18.060
happen to them all the time. Tragically. We don't hold you responsible for that because
00:36:25.540
they're not your children, but your child, we do. And so if your child starves to death,
00:36:29.980
you go to jail because outside of the womb, we recognize that you as the parent have a special
00:36:40.500
responsibility to your own child. It is a responsibility that requires a lot of you. It requires your body,
00:36:47.620
your, your, your money, your time, your soul, your energy, everything, your heart, soul, mind,
00:36:55.180
everything, uh, is poured into the, the job of parenting. And it is, uh, it, uh, and you have
00:37:04.700
autonomy. You have no autonomy as a parent. You have no autonomy from your child. Your child is utterly
00:37:10.920
dependent on you. Um, and we recognize that as a responsibility. All the pro-life argument is
00:37:23.340
simply that, well, that responsibility starts, starts at the moment that the child exists,
00:37:28.360
not at the moment that the child is born. That's our argument. And it's, it makes a lot of sense.
00:37:35.720
I mean, if we all recognize that that responsibility exists from the parent to the child,
00:37:41.280
then why would it, why do you get a nine month grace period where that you're not responsible for
00:37:46.140
your child? What? The child exists, doesn't he? So, uh, that's how we respond to that argument. Um,
00:37:55.820
as far as the fact that come, that, uh, Kamala Harris, as far as the fact that Melania Trump has
00:38:03.680
written this in a book, I think, uh, as other, as other conservatives have pointed out, one of the
00:38:09.500
sad realities of the Republican party is that, um, every, every Republican first lady, um,
00:38:18.280
since Roe v. Wade has been pro-abortion. And, uh, we could have a whole conversation about why that's
00:38:27.360
the fact, but that is the fact. So, and it is important to note here. Um, I don't think it lets
00:38:32.220
Melania Trump off the hook. She is horribly wrong about this, but she is in, in company with every
00:38:41.320
other Republican first lady. And, uh, that doesn't reflect her position is not Donald Trump's
00:38:50.720
position. She is not in the position of, uh, legislating or governing. Um, in general, I've
00:39:00.320
always said, I want to get first ladies less involved. Like I don't, I don't, and I've been
00:39:04.700
very, I'm not just saying this now. I've always said this, you know, if you listen to the show,
00:39:07.860
I don't care the first ladies, I don't care about them. I want to see less of them.
00:39:11.320
Uh, I, we don't need to give you a little projects and stuff that like you actually are
00:39:15.960
not, we didn't elect you. You really don't matter. Uh, you know, you matter to your husband,
00:39:22.920
hopefully, but, and to your family, but to the country, there's really not, you're not
00:39:28.280
the queen, you know, this is not actually a monarchy. And so your positions, your, your
00:39:32.920
political views, it's actually not that important to me. I don't really care that much.
00:39:57.420
something that I've said now a few times, uh, a concern that I have,
00:40:01.700
which is that most likely the, the, uh, this is when we know this is going to be a very close
00:40:08.080
election and it's the candidate that can mobilize their own base, uh, the most is probably going to
00:40:17.260
win. Yeah. You got to win the end. You got to win the independence. You have to go and you have
00:40:22.340
to try to steal some from the other side. Some of the, you know, you got to do all that,
00:40:26.600
the moderates and everything, but you got to mobilize your own base.
00:40:32.660
And one of my concerns is that the pro-life base is just being relentlessly demoralized.
00:40:40.180
I mean, it's every week. It's another thing. One thing after another, after another. And, um,
00:40:48.160
yeah, we should say to pro-life voters, you got to vote for Donald Trump. I have said that so many
00:40:53.600
times. I'll say it again. If you're a pro-life voter, you got to vote for Donald Trump.
00:40:58.160
Uh, even if you're pissed off about some of this stuff, you got to vote for Donald Trump.
00:41:05.900
If you care about saving babies, you vote for Donald Trump.
00:41:09.700
Kamala Harris, there's no question about one thing. She is much worse on, uh, on this subject
00:41:16.300
than, than Trump is. Not only do more babies die if Kamala is elected, but also more pro-lifers go to
00:41:24.560
prison. They just sent another pro-lifer to prison. I think this week
00:41:29.040
they're on a, a, a holy war and an unholy war against pro-lifers. And that will continue and
00:41:37.780
be ramped up. Kamala Harris, she did this when she was attorney general in California,
00:41:43.460
going after pro-lifers and throwing them in prison. That's like one of her favorite things to do.
00:41:50.960
And the Biden administration is already doing it. She is going to, I'm telling you right
00:41:54.480
now for all the pro-lifers who are thinking about staying home and not voting for Trump.
00:42:00.400
You do so at the risk, not only of babies, but of yourself.
00:42:05.240
Because when Kamala gets into office, she's not going to say, okay, well you're,
00:42:08.560
you didn't vote for Trump. So you're one of the good ones.
00:42:12.420
No, she is going to try to criminalize, flat out criminalize pro-life activism. It's already
00:42:18.300
happening. And, uh, it's going to get so much worse under, under, under Kamala, which is of
00:42:25.600
course a secondary concern to the greater concern, which is that more children will die. So, uh, if
00:42:30.740
you're a pro-lifer, you, you've got to go and vote for Donald Trump. Um, it shouldn't even be like a
00:42:35.920
reluctant or hesitant or anything kind of vote. It should be a, let's go in there, uh, eagerly and
00:42:43.720
vote for this guy because Kamala would be the most pro-abortion anti-life president of all time.
00:42:53.300
Hands down. Right. So all that said, um, it still is true that politically a demoralized base
00:43:04.900
isn't good. It's, it's not going to help you. It's going to hurt you.
00:43:08.860
Um, and so one worry I have is that the pro-life base, uh, is, has been so relentlessly demoralized.
00:43:17.120
And, um, I think that's something that Trump campaign needs to take note of. And it's like,
00:43:22.460
you gotta, you gotta give them something, uh, give, give them a reason to be excited
00:43:28.160
before election day. All right. I'll briefly mention this. This is a
00:43:36.040
fun story from a few days ago, Fox News reports. Social media users mocked Mother Jones editor-in-chief
00:43:44.620
Clara Jeffrey after she publicly complained about a flight attendant wishing her and other passengers
00:43:49.040
a blessed night at the end of a recent flight. Jeffrey ridiculed the flight attendant in a recent
00:43:54.620
expo, sending her, uh, saying her sendoff was evidence of creeping Christian nationalism in the
00:43:59.400
country and pointing out all the other less Christian adjectives she could have used.
00:44:06.040
Um, well, she actually tweeted was creeping Christian nationalism alert. Alaska air flight
00:44:11.220
attendant just wished us a blessed night as we landed in, um, uh, SFO, which is the San Francisco
00:44:19.120
airport to groans. Other adjectives that would have sufficed great, awesome, fabulous, amazing,
00:44:25.340
fantastic. She added, as my roommate said, this ain't Montgomery, sweetie. So Clara Jeffery has,
00:44:34.420
has since taken this post down. She deleted it. She was absolutely hammered for it, ruthlessly mocked
00:44:40.860
and derided, uh, for, for complaining about someone saying, have a blessed night justifiably, uh,
00:44:46.540
justifiably made fun of obviously. But meanwhile, of course the internet went to work on her and they,
00:44:55.180
they did what the internet does. And they very quickly, many people have uncovered several examples,
00:45:00.680
including really recent examples of Clara Jeffery herself using the term blessed in the same
00:45:06.700
context. She had said exactly the thing that offended her when the flight attendant said it.
00:45:13.380
In fact, she had even specifically praised other people, including Obama, I believe for using the
00:45:20.400
phrase, God bless. So this woman is a shameless hypocrite, no surprise there. Uh, bless her heart,
00:45:27.380
of course. But this story does, I think, illustrate an important point. It goes to show what the label
00:45:32.780
Christian nationalist now means because it gets, gets tossed around a lot. We're constantly told that
00:45:39.220
we need to worry about these Christian nationalists. And you might think, well,
00:45:44.380
if you don't know any better, you'll think what's wrong with being a Christian nationalist?
00:45:47.520
Um, isn't that just a nationalist who is also Christian? And isn't a nationalist simply someone
00:45:55.640
who prioritizes his own nation? So isn't a Christian nationalist, a Christian who prioritizes
00:46:03.540
his own nation, which is another way of saying patriot? You might think that, but that's not what
00:46:11.260
the left means when they say it. In fact, it hasn't been exactly, exactly clear what they do mean,
00:46:16.400
except that we're supposed to be afraid of these people, these Christian nationalists,
00:46:20.560
whoever they are and whatever they believe. Well, now we know, now we have more clarity about, um,
00:46:26.580
what is meant by Christian nationalist. A Christian nationalist is someone who wishes you a blessed
00:46:31.380
day on an airplane. Somebody who says, uh, God bless you when you sneeze is a Christian nationalist.
00:46:37.020
So in other words, a Christian nationalist is just a Christian.
00:46:44.540
Even though, I mean, really you could say have a blessed day or you could say God bless you and not even
00:46:49.080
be a Christian. But the thing that offends her about it is that she suspects that this is a,
00:46:56.060
this is a evidence that this flight attendant is Christian. So she's connecting the two.
00:47:00.420
And what actually offends her is that is the faith of this, the alleged faith of this flight
00:47:06.060
attendant. So a Christian nationalist is just a Christian of any type is now a Christian nationalist.
00:47:13.600
Or maybe we should say a Christian nationalist is, is a Christian who does or says something publicly
00:47:28.520
Because I think Claire Jeffrey would, would be the first to say that, no, she doesn't have a problem
00:47:33.120
with you being Christian. Just don't, as long as you're Christian only in your head
00:47:37.280
and you don't ever do or say anything publicly to ever indicate that that's your religion, uh,
00:47:44.460
then, then it's fine. You can be Christian all you want in your own head.
00:47:47.240
She might even let you go to church if you're lucky for now. Anyway, you could even go to church.
00:47:56.020
Well, it depends on what the church is and what they're saying there, but you know,
00:47:58.940
there are some churches that she would let you go to, but once you start to in, in any way,
00:48:06.760
even in the most benign way, uh, once you start to make your faith known, once you start to,
00:48:13.140
um, you know, once, once you start to let the light shine so that it's, it's not hidden under a
00:48:19.800
basket, uh, once you start to do that, then you're a Christian nationalist and, uh, you're a terrible
00:48:25.300
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who has emerged from hiding to, as they say, speak his truth. Actually, he's promoting a new film
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life and his Subway sandwich. Many people think that the attack, you know, must have been somewhat
00:50:47.940
less devastating simply because he planned and choreographed and paid for it himself. But you could
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argue that that only makes it more devastating. I mean, it's a terrible thing to be assaulted on a
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street corner at two in the morning. Imagine how much more terrible it must be when you are the one
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assaulting yourself. It's kind of the ultimate betrayal. So, of course, in this interview,
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Jussie does not admit that he assaulted himself. He maintains his innocence to this very day.
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And the journalist conducting the interview, her name is Esther Kang, doesn't press him on it or
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challenge him in any way whatsoever. In fact, she seems to believe in his innocence as well.
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Inside Jussie Smollett's Darkest Day and How the Alleged 2019 Hoax Tested My Strength,
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I Was Numb. Note how the word alleged is being used here, even though he was convicted in a court of law
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and found guilty of staging a hoax. Proper journalistic practice is to drop the alleged qualifier
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once a person is found guilty of the charge. But if this person was a proper journalist,
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then Smollett would not be talking to her. So, reading on, Jussie Smollett doesn't care what
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anyone thinks. In his eyes, only the universe can right his wrongs. Still, the road to finding
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inner peace was one of the hardest things he's ever faced. He's learned how to hold on for five more
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minutes amid the chaos of the last five years, a close personal mantra he now holds dear to his heart.
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Yes, this is really happening. They are doing a hagiographic puff piece on a convicted hate
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crime hoaxer. A puff piece that descends into incomprehensible nonsense by the second sentence.
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Only the universe can right his wrongs? I mean, what is that even supposed to mean?
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Is the universe righting the wrongs he committed or the wrongs that are supposedly committed against
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him? And how will the universe do that if the wrong that was committed against him was also
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committed by him? It seems like there's not much for the universe to do in this situation. If I'm
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the universe, I'm going to look at that and say, well, I mean, that basically worked itself out.
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So, it's not clear what any of this means, but let's continue anyway.
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In an exclusive sit-down with people since the 2019 incident, Smollett, 42, joins the Zoom
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conversation, ready as I'll ever be, from his hotel room in New York City. Five years ago, Smollett,
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who identifies as a gay black man, claimed that on January 29th, 2019, while on his way home from
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a Subway sandwich shop, he was attacked by two men late at night, yelling racist and homophobic
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slurs, putting a rope around his neck and dousing him with bleach. After an investigation conducted by
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law enforcement, prosecutors alleged that Smollett staged the attack to get media attention and paid
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$3,500 to two brothers, Abimbola, Alabinjo, and then whatever the other guy's name is.
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Despite the narrative, he says, so many have assumed Smollett maintains his innocence to this day.
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Now, again, just to interject, it's not a narrative or allegation. He was proven guilty in a court of
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law of committing a hoax. Although he was, of course, quite obviously guilty even before the verdict,
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so he didn't really need that in order to be able to say conclusively that he was guilty.
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But People Magazine will not let any of that get in the way of Jussie continuing to victimize
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himself. Quote, I was numb, he says, recalling the incident to people. I didn't know how to connect
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the dots. I really genuinely didn't know. I couldn't make sense of what was going on. And I
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couldn't make sense of what people were actually thinking. What exactly do they think happened?
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I couldn't put two and two together. Yes, he was confused. He couldn't put two and two together.
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Couldn't connect the dots. It was bewildering. He paid two guys to pretend to beat him up.
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And then those guys that he paid to do that thing went ahead and did that thing that he paid them to
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do. So the thing that he was doing to himself was done. And but it's bizarre. It's a mystery.
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It's bizarre. How did it happen? Aside from the fact that it happened because he deliberately set
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it all up and made it happen. But still, how? How is it? He's confused. It's like if I'm walking
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down the street and I'm looking at my own legs and saying, how am I moving across? I don't
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understand. How is this happening? I started there and I'm heading there and I don't. What is happening
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right now? How am I getting there? I mean, I am actually bringing myself there, but how is it
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happening? You know, it's very confusing. It's very existential. But the good news is that Jesse
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is very resilient. Continuing, quote, Smollett says that he has since put in years of self-reflection
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and healing, calling it difficult. In fact, he says, we're still dealing with the repercussions
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from that narrative. We're still dealing with that every day. At the same time, it's not in my
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mental. It's not in my soul. It's not in my spirit, says Smollett, who TMZ reported entered
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an outpatient rehab facility in 2023. People can say what they want about you, but they have no
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control. They can do whatever they want. They can even put you behind bars. They can control your
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physical, but they can't control my mind. They can't control my spirit. They can't control my soul.
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They can't control the knowledge that I have of who I am. Now, the article goes on like that for
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many paragraphs. I'm not going to subject you to any more of it. But I do have to read this one
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line, this one more line, a couple of lines, because it's just, you know, it's just great.
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Continuing, quote, I'm not going to sit here and victimize myself and be like, woe is me,
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because there's so many people that don't have the platform or resources that I have to protect
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themselves, Smollett says, saying that people often admit to crimes they didn't commit because
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they feel it's the easier way out. Yes, Jussie Smollett said he's not going to victimize
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himself. Now, the irony is glaring enough that I don't need to point it out, even though I guess
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I just did. Ultimately, though, I think that this interview, if you read the whole thing,
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which I did for some reason, proves, it proves, number one, that the media are shameless,
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just shameless to a degree, never witnessed before in human history. But we already knew that.
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It also proves that Jussie Smollett is a pathological liar who lies so compulsively that
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he probably doesn't even recognize when he's lying anymore. I mean, he might actually believe
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at this point that it really happened. He might have convinced himself of it at this point.
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But we already knew that also. I think most of all, it shows what a person becomes when their
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whole identity is tied up in victimhood. Like Jussie Smollett committed the hoax in the first
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place because he was desperate to be a victim. Now he's a national disgrace and a punchline,
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but he clings to his faux victimhood anyway because he doesn't know what else to do. He has no identity
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outside of his perception of himself as a victim. It is pitiful to watch and grotesque. But also,
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we have to admit, very funny. And that is why Jussie Smollett and the woman who wrote this
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fawning article about him are both today canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for
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watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.
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Republicans are Nazis. You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people.
00:58:13.900
Growing up, I never thought much about race. It never really seemed to matter that much,
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at least not to me. Am I racist? I would really appreciate it if you love.
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I'm going to sort this out. I need to go deeper undercover.
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Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert. Here's my certification. What you're doing is
00:58:33.860
you're stretching out of your whiteness. This is more for you than this for you. Is America
00:58:37.500
inherently racist? The word inherent is challenging there. I want to rename the George Washington
00:58:41.700
Monument to the George Floyd Monument. America is racist to its bones. So inherently.
00:58:46.420
Yeah, this country is a piece of... White folks. Trash. White supremacy. White woman. White boy.
00:58:52.860
Is there a black person around here? What's a black person right here? Does he not exist?
00:58:58.220
Hi, Robin. Hi. What's your name? I'm Matt. I just had to ask who you are because you have to be
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