Ep. 1472 - Planes Are Falling From The Sky & The DOJ’s Priority Is DEI
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One of the final acts of the Biden administration is to go to court to defend DEI policies in the airline industry. Also, Bruce Springsteen performs at a Kamala Harris rally, and Donald Trump is toying with the idea of abolishing the income tax.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, one of the final acts of the Biden administration is to go to
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court to defend DEI policies in the airline industry. Also, Bruce Springsteen performs
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at a Kamala Harris rally. It's one of the worst things you'll ever hear, I guarantee you that.
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Donald Trump is toying with the idea of abolishing the income tax. We'll talk about why that would
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make him, without question, the greatest president in American history. And Ben Shapiro debates 25
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Kamala Harris supporters. The clips are truly tragic, if also hilarious. We'll talk about all
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Put yourself in the shoes of a senior official in the Biden-Harris administration. Say you're
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running the DOJ. And right now, you know that in just a matter of months, you could be out of a job.
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In fact, that seems pretty likely at this point. If there's any important causes that you want to
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pursue or policies you want to defend, well, now's the time to do it. This is your opportunity to cement
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your legacy, at least until the next administration fires you and completely dismantles it. Given that
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setup, what would you make a top priority? With so many things going wrong in the country, what are
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the battles you choose to fight with the limited time you have left? We're not quite technically in
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the lame duck period, but everyone in this administration is asking this question right
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now anyway. And as low as your expectations may be for the Biden-Harris administration,
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their answer to that question is pretty remarkable. In what could very well be their final days and
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weeks in power, senior leaders in the federal government are going to federal court to defend
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DEI policies. And I'm not talking about just any garden variety DEI policy here. As we speak,
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the Justice Department is going to court to demand that the DEI, the DEI is used in the selection
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process to appoint an independent monitor to oversee Boeing, the aircraft manufacturer. The job of this
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independent monitor is to make sure that Boeing stops making planes that fall apart in the sky or just
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completely fall out of the sky. In other words, the Biden-Harris administration DOJ is fighting to ensure
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that the second largest commercial jet manufacturer in the world is supervised by a DEI hire. What could
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possibly go wrong? Well, a lot as we've seen. And you know that if you've been following Boeing lately,
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there's a decent documentary on Netflix called Downfall, the case against Boeing that outlines
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a lot of the background. But here's the gist. As you probably remember, there were two fatal crashes
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involving Boeing 737 MAX aircraft in 2018 and 2019. A total of 346 people were killed in just a few
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months. Investigation revealed that the crashes were linked to Boeing's decision to accelerate
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production of the 737 MAX to compete with their rival Airbus. The design of Boeing's new 737 MAX was
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a lot like the older Boeing jets, but with one key exception. The engines were larger and they were
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positioned further forward on the plane. While this helped with efficiency, it came with a side effect,
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which is that the plane had a tendency to pitch upwards during flight. So to counteract that tendency,
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Boeing designed a new software program that they installed on their new 737 MAX aircraft
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the idea was that the software would automatically lower the nose to a level position if the plane
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started creeping upwards. It was supposed to be kind of a subtle fix that the pilots wouldn't
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really notice. The problem is that the software was completely dependent on one sensor on the plane
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called the angle of attack sensor. And if that sensor failed or malfunctioned for whatever reason or
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provided inaccurate data, the plane would inaccurately believe that it was climbing too quickly and the
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software in response would make the plane plunge towards the earth. And that's exactly what happened
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in both of those cases. Here's coverage of one of the crashes. Watch.
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But shortly after takeoff, Ethiopian flight 302 is suddenly out of control.
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A critical sensor sending information to the plane's new flight control system called MCAS has malfunctioned.
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MCAS thinks the aircraft is in a stall and literally takes over the controls.
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Now what's incredible about this crash, the Ethiopian Airlines one, is that it happened after the Lion Air
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crash several months earlier. And after the Lion Air crash, Boeing sent out advisories to a bunch of
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airlines warning them about their software. They said that if they encounter a similar issue,
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pilots should just turn off the electrical system of that part of the aircraft to disable
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the software entirely. The problem is that when the Ethiopian pilots did that, they encountered
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a bunch of other unexpected issues that they weren't really trained on. And they were panicking. And
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during the chaos, they left the throttle on maximum, which made it impossible to control the plane
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without the help of the electrical system. And when they tried to regain some control,
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they turned the electrical system back on, at which point the plane promptly crashed itself.
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Now, obviously, there are a lot of failures that occurred in this whole situation. The regulators at the FAA
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delegated a lot of their responsibilities to Boeing, which meant that Boeing was in charge of certifying
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the safety of its own software. Additionally, Boeing knowingly made false representations about its
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software during the certification process. That part is not in dispute. Boeing admits this.
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This summer, Boeing agreed to plead guilty to conspiring to defraud the government concerning
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the 737 MAX's software. And then Boeing and the DOJ filed a plea agreement so that a judge could review it.
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And the plea agreement essentially makes Boeing, as a company, like the company equivalent of a
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convicted felon. And they're still making our airplanes that we fly on, so that should make
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you feel good. But to his credit, the judge, whose name is Reed O'Connor, isn't signing off on the
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plea deal, at least not yet. This is a bit like the situation with Hunter Biden this summer. Just because
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both parties agreed to a plea deal, it doesn't mean the judge has to accept it. And in this case,
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there's a very important reason why the judge won't accept it. Quoting from the judge's order this
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month, quote, the agreement mandates an independent compliance monitor to assess whether Boeing has
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adequately mitigated the risk of providing false or fraudulent information to the Federal Aviation
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Administration and other government regulators. Like many of the agreement's other provisions,
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the victims strongly oppose the agreement's compliance monitor requirements. Among other reasons,
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the victims argue the court should reject the agreement because it allows the government,
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not the court, to select a monitor with input from Boeing and in keeping with the department's
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commitment to diversity and inclusion. Now, in other words, just to translate, both the judge and
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the victim's families have an issue with this provision, and you can see why. When both the
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regulator and the airline manufacturer mess up, causing the deaths of hundreds of people,
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then you would think you'd want to bring in the most competent people you can find in order to make
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sure that that never happens again. But that's not what's happening here. When the judge asked the
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government's attorney, Sean Tannoli, to explain what exactly this diversity, equity, and inclusion
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policy would entail, Tannoli responded that he's not an expert in the topic. But he eventually got
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around to saying that diversity refers to race, gender, background, and any number of factors,
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including background and experience. Tannoli added that inclusion is, quote,
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quote, another way of maybe saying the same thing and not excluding people because of any characteristic
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that would be included in diversity. Both of those explanations are incredibly circular,
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but he tapped out after that. He said he couldn't provide any more information than that,
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but he did insist that the government wouldn't pick somebody who was unqualified.
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Well, that led the judge to ask, quote, did the department used to exclude certain people on race,
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gender, and other things? And in response to that question, Tannoli responded,
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not to my knowledge. Which was an alarming answer, to say the least, especially when you're talking
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about making sure that more planes don't fall out of the sky. The answer should be an unequivocal,
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no, we definitely wouldn't exclude anyone based on race or gender. It's wrong to discriminate on that
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basis in any context, but it's completely insane to do it when you're talking about regulating Boeing,
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which, if you haven't noticed, is having a lot of problems right now,
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both on this planet and in space. So the judge asked Boeing for their input, but they just deferred
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to the government's answer. And then the judge pulled up Boeing's website where he found that
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the company has a set of aspirations that it plans to achieve by next year. And those aspirations,
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which are based on DEI, include explicit quotas on the basis of race, including Boeing's efforts to,
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quote, increase the black representation rate in the U.S. by 20 percent
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and close representation gaps for historically underrepresented groups.
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The judge also found that Boeing pays its executives bonuses depending on how many of
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their DEI goals they have achieved. Now, at the moment, we don't know exactly how this legal battle
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will play out. The judge has said that he wants a full hearing on all of this before he signs off on
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any plea agreement. He wants to make sure that the Biden-Harris administration is going to select
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someone who can do the job before any more people die in Boeing airplanes. And based on the statements
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of Boeing and the Biden-Harris administration so far, the judge doesn't have those assurances.
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Now, if you look at any corporate media coverage of this story, you'll find a lot of snark directed
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at the judge. Reuters, for example, ran this headline, quote, how a U.S. judge injected culture wars
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into Boeing 737 MAX plea deal. They interviewed a lawyer who criticized the judge saying that he was
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acting incredibly unusual. CNN, meanwhile, accused the judge of engaging in a politically tinged
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courtroom battle. This is the same debate, the same tactic we've seen in the trans debate and in so
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many other areas. Left-wing activists implement some new insane policy. And when you push back against
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it in any way, or even just ask questions about it, you're accused of injecting a culture war in a way
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that's somehow inappropriate. It's apparently, so it's not injecting a culture war when Boeing and
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the federal government both decide to, you know, begin with this DEI insanity in the first place.
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But it is a culture war when a judge asks if we're hiring the most qualified people to make sure that
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more planes don't crash themselves into the ocean. Now, the reason these outlets are lashing out like
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this is that they recognize that this judge's ruling is significant. They realize that they're indeed
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losing the culture war on this topic. The war that, like every other battlefield of the culture war,
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these are all wars that they started. Wars that the left started. This is the first time that I'm
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aware of that a federal judge has explicitly called out DEI in the context of an ongoing case,
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and he's demanded to know what exactly it entails. And in response, the government and Boeing,
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which both practice DEI, couldn't even answer the question. It's yet another sign that the tide is
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turning pretty sharply against the whole concept of diversity, equity, and inclusion, particularly
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when lives are at stake. That's why, you know, when I started working on my film, Am I Racist, a few
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years ago, developments like this were pretty difficult to imagine at the time. But throughout the
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process, we all knew that taking down DEI meant exposing exactly what it is in practice.
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Once reasonable people can see exactly what diversity, equity, and inclusion entails,
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then they turn against it, as with so many other things on the left. When people just see what it
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actually is, and they see past the euphemisms, once you've revealed what it actually is to people,
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many times you don't even have to explain why it's wrong, because it's so self-evident.
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People recognize that it's immoral and unethical, not to mention incredibly dangerous in cases like
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this. And they also recognize that the high priests of the DEI cult actually have no idea what they're
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See terms for details. I thought it'd be nice to start off the headlines with a little bits of a musical
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interlude. The boss himself, Bruce Springsteen, came out to support Kamala Harris at a rally last
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night. He performed a couple of songs. And we'll play a little bit of one of them in a minute.
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But first, here is Bruce Springsteen on stage, giving a little speech, making the case for Kamala.
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Listen. I'm Bruce Springsteen, and I am here today to support Kamala Harris and Tim Waltz for president
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and vice president of the United States and to oppose Donald Trump and J.D. Vance.
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Now, here's why. I want a president who reveres the Constitution, who does not threaten but wants
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to protect and guide our great democracy, who believes in the rule of law and the peaceful
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transfer of power, who will fight for a woman's right to choose, and who wants to create a middle-class
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economy that will serve all our citizens. There is only one candidate in this election who holds
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those principles dear. Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris. She's running to be the 47th president of the
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United States. Donald Trump is running to be an American tyrant. He does not understand this
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country, its history, or what it means to be deeply American.
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Well, first of all, he's mispronouncing her name, which is racist. He keeps saying Kamala
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is what he keeps saying. So I'm very offended on her behalf for that. The second problem is
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that almost everything he said there, almost all of Kamala's alleged selling points that
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he's given are right-wing coded. You know, if you leave aside the right to choose, that part,
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quote-unquote, right to choose, the rest of it, restoring the rule of law, defending the Constitution,
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has a deep respect for American history. Obviously, none of that is true about Kamala Harris,
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and that's the point. They're trying to sell her using essentially conservative language.
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And I don't think it's going to work. This is maybe the best indication that Trump is winning,
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the fact that they're, you know, they're not trying to sell her as a progressive, even though
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she is the most liberal presidential candidate in American history by far. In spite of that,
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that's not how they're selling her. They, you know, they're not selling her with defund the police
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and put a stop to police brutality. And, you know, the Constitution is a living document and it needs
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to be updated for, but they're not doing any of that. Instead, it's rule of law, Constitution.
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That's what they're doing. They're running to the right in the final days of the campaign,
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just as they have since August, and running to the right on everything except abortion,
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which just makes the overall pitch all the more disjointed and confused.
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Um, so that was Springsteen's, uh, speech. Now let's listen to a little bit of him performing his
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classic hits, Dancing in the Dark. We'll, we'll listen to as much of this as we can, uh, tolerate.
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That, uh, wow. Why is that so bad? And I, and I, I don't even say that as a Springsteen
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hater. Uh, I mean, I am kind of a Springsteen hater, but, but how did Bruce Springsteen do the
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worst rendition of a Bruce Springsteen song that we've ever heard? That's, that's what I want to
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know. He sounds like he's doing bad karaoke to his own song. He sounds like a tone deaf drunk guy
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trying to sing Springsteen, Springsteen, uh, which is probably being generous. I mean,
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really his, his singing voice sounds like a, like a hyena drowning in a river. Um, and that's why I
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say we, we, we really need a new law and I'm totally serious about this. Um, I wish this is,
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this is something that Trump would have put on his platform, but we need a new law that rock stars
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aren't allowed to keep performing past the age of 55. Let's say, I mean, 60 is pushing it. Okay,
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fine. I'll give you a 60 past the age of 60. Well, and I'll even be, I'll be, uh, even more
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generous. I'll say that, that after the age of 60, if you want to keep performing as a rock star
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or a musician, you need to get a license and then you, and then that license has to be renewed every
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three years. You have to go somewhere and sing and get, uh, you know, sing for Simon Cowell or
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something. And you'll get a, if you pass, then you get a, your license renewed because this guy,
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I mean, Bruce Springsteen is how he's like pushing 80 now. And it's just sad. It's, it's sad
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to witness. Like you, you can't force us to watch this and seeing these aging rock stars just
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decaying on stage, butchering their own material. I mean, it's a crime is a crime. It should literally
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be a crime. It's a moral atrocity. Um, but that was Bruce Springsteen and, uh, we'll see how many
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people are inspired to vote. I mean, that's reason enough to vote against Kamala Harris. Like
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reason enough is, is because if she's elected, what does, I mean, are we going to have to hear
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more of that? Is he going to perform at the inauguration or something? You start to worry
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about that reason enough to vote against her is just that performance alone. Now, speaking of
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musicians who are 40 years past their prime, uh, Cindy Lauper, uh, came out with, uh, fortunately
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she's not singing, but she, uh, endorsed Kamala Harris and gave her own pitch for, uh, Kamala.
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Hi, it's me, Cindy. I'm touring the country. I'm very excited to see my country. I love my country.
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Mostly, I want to tell you that this November, I'm voting for her, Kamala Harris. You know
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why? Because she's a woman and she's going to understand that I don't want to be a second
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class citizen anymore. I want to see a woman in the White House. I would like to see that.
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Right now, we have no equality. We don't even, we're not even able to say whether we want to
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have a kid or not. I don't have to worry about that anymore, but I do have to worry about the fact
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that my nieces and whoever comes later is going to be second class. We'll be told about our bodies
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and what we're to do with them because for the good, for the good of who? Men aren't told what
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they're going to do. I want equality, real equality. I don't want to be talked into anything anymore
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being told what I'm going to do with my own body because that's too creepy. That's not
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small government. That's dictatorship. And I don't want that. So ladies, can we stand together?
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There it is again, by the way, small government. She's making a pitch for, since when do you care
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about small government? Sidney Lauper. And since when does Sidney Lauper sound like Lois Griffin
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from Family Guy? Has she always sounded like that? I guess I've never heard her talk before
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and I wish I never did. So, you know, of course, this does, number one, raise the question,
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the great question that still has not been answered by anybody on the left, which is what
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is a woman? She said she's voting for Kamala Harris because she's a woman and she just came
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out and said it. You're not even pretending that there's any other reason. Yeah, I'm voting
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for her because she's a woman. All right, well, what's that? What's that? What is that? What
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is this mysterious creature you speak of, Sidney? Sidney, can you tell us a little bit more
00:25:13.000
about that? And then she goes off on the whole abortion spiel. It's just, it's funny how
00:25:18.820
these people, I mean, for one thing, they continue to pretend that there's some kind
00:25:27.120
of federal abortion ban in place. It's not even that they're pretending that Trump is
00:25:35.040
going to put a federal ban in place, even though Trump repeatedly has said he is not going to
00:25:40.380
do that. The way they talk about it, they're pretending that it has already happened. And
00:25:47.340
they're ignoring the fact that every single one of these women who come out in support
00:25:52.140
of Kamala Harris and start giving these speeches, especially the famous women, they all, all of
00:25:58.920
them live in states where abortion is 100% legal still from conception to birth and in some
00:26:08.260
cases beyond birth. I don't know where Sidney Lopper lives, but I'm going to, pretty safe
00:26:16.020
assumption. She lives in a state where it's already legal. So all of these women, it is already
00:26:21.280
legal entirely where you live. And it has been for 50 years. And Trump is, if he was elected, would
00:26:30.600
not do a single thing to change that. If I were elected, I would do something to change that. I think
00:26:39.840
there should be a federal abortion ban. I make no apologies about that, but that's not Trump's view
00:26:42.860
on it. It's not Trump's view. So they're just ignoring that. They are ignoring it because,
00:26:50.200
so that they can tell the story, as we heard from Cindy Lopper, that women are second-class citizens,
00:26:57.800
that they're being singled out, which by the way, of course, even if there was a national abortion ban
00:27:04.720
in place, that still would not mean that you're a second-class citizen, that you're not equal,
00:27:10.320
that you're being somehow singled out with some kind of law that only applies to you. It wouldn't
00:27:15.640
mean that. All it would mean, you know what, if you live in a state where there's an abortion ban,
00:27:22.400
or if there was a federal ban, and if you're a woman, all that would mean is that that would
00:27:32.020
actually be equality. Banning abortion is equality. It's equality, for one thing, because we're
00:27:39.420
recognizing the human rights of the child in the womb, who is a human, who is a person.
00:27:45.800
And when the person in the abortion conversation who's being deprived of equality under the law
00:27:52.720
is the unborn child. But also, all that would mean is that you are not allowed to directly kill
00:27:59.680
another human life, which is already the law for everybody else. Men are not allowed to directly
00:28:10.060
kill innocent human beings. It's not as though men have that privilege, and women don't.
00:28:19.080
So when abortion is legal, it makes women, that is an inequality in the law. Not only because,
00:28:32.300
again, we're depriving human rights, we're depriving the unborn children of their basic human rights,
00:28:38.700
but we are carving out this exception, this murder exception. And we're saying that,
00:28:45.800
yeah, you're not allowed to take innocent human life unless you're a woman and you're killing your
00:28:51.220
child. So Cyndi Lauper does not want equality under the law. Equality under the law would be an
00:28:59.160
abortion ban. That's the last thing she wants. She wants women to have extra rights, extra rights that
00:29:05.420
nobody else has. All right, New York Times has this headline, a wonderful headline.
00:29:11.740
Trump flirts with ultimate tax cut. No income taxes at all. Article says,
00:29:17.580
foreign president Donald J. Trump has spent much of the presidential campaign brainstorming new and
00:29:21.300
sometimes untested ways to cut taxes. In the election's final stretch, he raised the possibility
00:29:26.400
of going even further, eliminating income taxes entirely. During a Fox News segment on Monday,
00:29:31.900
Mr. Trump took questions at a barbershop in the Bronx. When asked if the United States could
00:29:36.620
potentially end all federal taxation, Mr. Trump said the country could return to the economic
00:29:40.980
policies in the late 19th century where there was no federal income tax. Mr. Trump said it had all
00:29:48.100
tariffs. It didn't have an income tax. Now we have income taxes and we have people that are dying.
00:29:52.680
They're paying tax and they don't have the money to pay the tax. In June, Mr. Trump floated the idea of
00:29:58.060
replacing federal revenue from income taxes with money received from tariffs. Mr. Trump has not
00:30:02.520
provided specific details of how that would work and it's unclear if he wants to eliminate all federal
00:30:06.000
taxes, including corporate income taxes and payroll taxes, or only the individual income tax.
00:30:12.460
Either way, both liberal and conservative experts have dismissed his idea as mathematically
00:30:16.720
impossible and economically destructive. Yeah, I love that when people say it's mathematically
00:30:22.480
impossible to do something that we've already done. Okay, the income tax was put in place in what in
00:30:29.240
1913. Prior to that, there was no income tax. So how could it be impossible to do a thing
00:30:38.200
that we already did for over a century? And I'm not joking when I say that this, that if Trump
00:30:46.640
pursued this, uh, and was able to see it through, it would make him the greatest president in American
00:30:53.940
history. I mean, even if he just pursued it in a serious way and wasn't able to, uh, and didn't
00:31:01.960
succeed, it would still make him arguably the greatest president of American history. Uh, but
00:31:06.720
certainly if he was able to abolish the income tax, it would because in one fell swoop, Trump would,
00:31:11.340
will have done more than any other president to bring freedom and prosperity to the American people.
00:31:17.620
Abolishing the income tax would, would mean that he's, he has done more than any other president
00:31:21.560
to bring freedom and prosperity to the American people. Uh, he will have increased freedom and
00:31:27.480
prosperity more than any other president ever has. And, um, I don't think it's going to happen.
00:31:35.020
Yeah, I put a very, very low likelihood on it, but it needs to happen. And I also do believe that
00:31:41.740
Trump is the only guy who would even potentially do something like that.
00:31:46.640
Um, and you know, libertarians like to say that taxation is theft and that's not exactly right.
00:31:52.980
Not all taxation is theft. Uh, you need to have some kind of taxation in order to fund the government.
00:31:58.520
And the other option is for the government to have no funding, which means that the government
00:32:02.700
can't exist and then you have anarchy. So, uh, if you're not an anarchist, then you must agree that
00:32:09.580
some kind of tax system is, uh, is a necessary evil. Um, which means that not all taxes are theft,
00:32:18.520
but the income tax, the income tax is theft. So you just have to be more specific when you make
00:32:23.680
that claim that taxation is theft, the income, income taxation is theft. That I absolutely
00:32:29.660
believe. For the government to reach into your paycheck and take a chunk of it,
00:32:34.800
take a chunk before you even get your hands on it, um, getting taxed just for earning a living,
00:32:39.480
that, that is theft. That is tyranny. And we've been living under a system of crushing tyranny for
00:32:45.720
over a hundred years now. The kind of tyranny that our founders never would have tolerated. In fact,
00:32:50.840
they've violently revolted against much lesser tyranny than, than this. There's no question about that.
00:32:57.540
Um, now, of course, as, as the New York times, uh, says in response to this, a lot of people,
00:33:06.020
even conservatives are going around saying, well, we can't do that. How will we pay for the roads
00:33:10.760
and the schools without an income tax? Well, first of all, federal income taxes don't really pay for
00:33:16.320
schools. At least they, you know, they largely don't. I think like five or 10% of the funding for
00:33:21.520
schools comes from, uh, the federal government. Um, and besides the public school system needs to be
00:33:26.200
abolished anyway. So, but I mean, that's a different subject. Um, whatever else the federal
00:33:32.440
government pays for or, or we pay for, I should say through the federal government, you can replace
00:33:38.480
that funding with other taxes. Trump wants to use tariffs. Um, there have been other plans. We've
00:33:44.620
talked about the fair tax, for example, and national sales tax. Any kind of consumption-based tax
00:33:49.760
is vastly preferable to an income tax. Uh, and it continues to, uh, I continue to find it rather
00:34:02.760
confounding that abolishing the income tax, I mean, Trump is talking about it, which is great, but
00:34:08.080
it's rather confounding that this is not a subject that comes up more often on the right. Like, there
00:34:15.620
aren't that many people on the right who talk about this or push for it in any kind of serious way.
00:34:21.480
And, uh, I just find that, I find that sort of confusing. Like, we should all be on the same page
00:34:27.100
on this thing. Uh, the income tax is just an abomination from hell. It really is. And, and the
00:34:36.840
only reason that we accept it is just because it's always been in place, at least, and always just means
00:34:43.960
in our lifetime that we've never known anything other than the income tax. And so therefore we
00:34:50.700
just take it for granted. But just because you're born into a certain kind of tyranny doesn't mean
00:34:56.560
that it's not tyranny. And it also doesn't mean that, uh, it's inevitable and there's no other way
00:35:02.220
to, you know, have a functioning country. Like that's just not the case.
00:35:05.340
And really when it comes down to it, that the, any other attempt to, um, reign in
00:35:15.020
the, the, you know, extravagantly unnecessary spending of the federal government,
00:35:20.940
any attempt to cut the size of government, any of that stuff, like none of that can really happen
00:35:26.880
while you still have an income tax. While we still have a situation where the government could just
00:35:32.240
come in and take your money out of your paycheck, as long as they can do that,
00:35:36.660
yet spending is not going to go down. The government's not going to shrink. You're not
00:35:40.600
going to do anything about the, about the, the, the ungainly, uh, massive gargantuan
00:35:45.920
blob of the federal government, the federal bureaucracy, like none of that. You won't solve any of those
00:35:52.340
problems or even make a dent as long as they have this power to just go and take your money.
00:35:57.020
They're going to keep doing it. Um, so this is the first step towards really any, any other
00:36:04.840
improvements we want to make. All right, here's a writer for the Atlantic trying to explain
00:36:09.780
why Kamala is losing support among black and Hispanic voters. Um, and his explanation is that
00:36:17.460
those voters are just uneducated. Uh, let's listen.
00:36:20.120
But the sharpest divide in our politics today, uh, is education. It's whether you have a college
00:36:29.000
degree or not, that is the likeliest determinant of whether you're going to vote Republican or
00:36:33.660
Democratic. And that's why we're seeing larger numbers. And I met some of them in Western
00:36:38.560
Pennsylvania of Latinos and black voters who are moving toward Trump.
00:36:43.240
Well, that'll win them back. Uh, that's, that's sure to do it. Say, well, you're not voting for us
00:36:50.780
because you're uneducated. Um, and, but actually he's right. That's, that's the thing. He's, he's
00:36:56.360
right. Um, to, to frame it in terms of education, that's not like the fact that you didn't go to
00:37:02.380
college doesn't actually mean that you're uneducated. And, and the, the inverse of that,
00:37:09.480
the fact that you went to college doesn't mean that you are educated. And it certainly doesn't
00:37:14.100
mean that you're intelligent. You can't tell anything about someone's intelligence based on
00:37:18.680
whether they have a college degree. And you can't even tell anything about, about their actual
00:37:22.620
education. Um, based simply on the fact that they have the degree, but he is hitting on something
00:37:30.620
true here, uh, which is that as more and more people forego college, the Democrats lose voters.
00:37:37.340
And, uh, and this is a, this is a trend that we're seeing now where you have, um,
00:37:46.220
you know, it's still, it's still mostly taken for granted that when a kid graduates high school,
00:37:52.460
they just go to college, whether they know what they want to do with their lives or not,
00:37:56.960
whether they have any idea why they're going to college, whether they know what they want to
00:38:00.360
major in or whatever, it doesn't matter. They still go. So that's largely taken for granted.
00:38:04.980
That's still basically the system, but not as much as it was 10 years ago. Um,
00:38:10.080
the, the trend lines are moving in the opposite direction and, uh, there, there are a lot of
00:38:16.320
massive benefits there, but one of the biggest is that it, it, it's loosens the kind of stranglehold
00:38:27.600
grip that Democrats have over particularly younger voters. Cause what this guy's basically admitting
00:38:33.720
is what we all know, which is that the universities are left-wing indoctrination camps.
00:38:39.080
And if you have fewer people going there, then you end up with fewer people who are left-leaning.
00:38:43.040
It's pretty simple math there. All right. Finally, I wanted to mention this. Uh, this is a bit
00:38:48.540
hard to explain to anyone listening to the audio podcast. I'll try my best,
00:38:52.440
but it's too funny to not attempt to talk about it. So anyone who's, who's too online, like, like me
00:39:02.160
is very familiar with a certain meme format. Uh, and in the meme, you see a picture of a man,
00:39:08.360
uh, either like at a bar or sitting in a stadium, someplace noisy shouting in the ear of a woman who's
00:39:14.740
just sitting there or standing there and looking very disinterested and unamused. Um, and then the
00:39:20.820
meme is you fill in the dialogue, what the man is saying. And the whole joke is that the guy is
00:39:25.680
blabbing about something inane and irrelevant that the girl doesn't care about. Um, there's also the
00:39:31.680
reverse of this meme where a woman is shouting in the ear of a disinterested man. And for that meme,
00:39:38.040
you write in the dialogue and the woman is babbling about something dumb that the man doesn't care
00:39:41.140
about. And, uh, okay. So that's the meme format. There's me explaining a meme, but I don't, you know,
00:39:45.580
this is again, if it's for an audio format, I don't know how else to do this. Well, hilariously
00:39:50.000
Planned Parenthood, uh, tried to do this meme. And, you know, another meme about memes on the
00:39:58.660
internet is that the left can't meme. They don't, they don't know how to do memes for some reason.
00:40:04.340
And there's no better evidence of that than this, because the funny thing is that they,
00:40:09.820
they accidentally, Planned Parenthood, they accidentally did the meme correctly. They actually
00:40:14.520
did a correct and even funny version of this meme, but they didn't mean to. It makes the
00:40:19.960
opposite point from the point they were trying to make. So let's, let's take a look here. Uh, they,
00:40:25.400
they, and they deleted this tweet shortly after they posted it, which makes it even, uh, funnier,
00:40:30.860
but here's the meme. So you have the, you have the woman screaming in the guy's ear and then the
00:40:37.360
dialogue that Planned Parenthood put in says project, project 2025 is a complete political
00:40:42.180
takeover of our rights. They want Donald Trump and JD Vance to win so they can ban abortion nationwide.
00:40:47.020
That's why we need to vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, two politicians who have spent their
00:40:51.660
careers fighting for reproductive rights. Uh, so that's what the guy's shouting at the man while
00:40:57.900
he's just standing there, like, shut up, please. And this is amazing because like I said, they,
00:41:02.640
and they deleted this because everybody started mocking them for it, but they did the meme correctly,
00:41:08.740
accidentally correctly. This is a perfect representation of what female Kamala supporters
00:41:13.440
are like. They're constantly shrieking in our ears, screaming about abortion and they won't shut
00:41:19.320
up. So that's, but what's really incredible is that the, the feminists over at Planned Parenthood,
00:41:26.780
you know, they saw this image of the woman screaming directly in the ear of a man who clearly just wants
00:41:33.640
her to stop talking and doesn't care. And, and they saw that image and they saw it as an inherently
00:41:40.460
positive thing. They looked at the image and saw themselves in the woman who's doing the screaming
00:41:46.340
and they didn't see anything wrong with that. To them, this, this image of the woman screaming in
00:41:53.200
the man's ear, it's like, it's inspirational. It's aspirational. Uh, this is how they see themselves
00:42:00.100
apparently as a, as a kind of drunk bore perpetually shrieking in the ear of a man.
00:42:05.920
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There's a series on YouTube produced by the channel Jubilee where one person sits in a circle
00:44:30.260
surrounded by 20 or 30 people who disagree with them, and the people in the circle take turns
00:44:35.160
debating the guy in the middle. Charlie Kirk went viral a couple weeks ago when he took on 25 woke
00:44:40.680
college students and debated them and did quite well. This week, Ben Shapiro was the latest
00:44:46.680
conservative commentator on the chopping block. Clips of his debates with 25 Kamala Harris voters
00:44:52.100
are going extremely viral all over social media, which as a side note means it's only a matter of
00:44:57.080
time before someone on our PR team tries to convince me to do this too. And I'll just tell them ahead of
00:45:03.180
time, the answer is no. I am not doing this. Don't even bother bringing it to my office. I know you're
00:45:09.000
going to. You'll probably do it today. I don't have the patience required to engage in that many
00:45:14.700
conversations with that many idiots one after another in close succession. So I'm happy to
00:45:21.980
let Ben and Charlie handle that chore on their end. And they've got the right temperament for it. I
00:45:27.060
don't. So anyway, needless to say, Ben wins every debate during this little tournament. But I think
00:45:34.680
I looked at the YouTube video of this. It's got like 4 million views in less than a day, which is
00:45:40.920
incredible. And it's like an hour long. I mean, Ben sat there and that's with, I'm sure they edited
00:45:46.000
and clip some stuff. I don't know. But sitting there for an hour, just one of these people,
00:45:52.920
one after another with these morons. I cannot imagine. That's hell. It is hell. Now there are
00:45:59.040
two clips in particular that I want to focus on today from this. And the first is a young woman
00:46:03.880
who tries to challenge Ben on the topic of abortion. This clip is a, it's a little bit long. It's about
00:46:08.380
two and a half minutes. But I think it's worth watching the whole thing or most of it. Here it
00:46:14.800
is. Hi, how are you? Hello. Nice to meet you. Oh, wow. You look better in person. Okay. So
00:46:21.520
I don't often get that. So thank you. It's fine. But yeah. So yeah. How do you define abortion
00:46:27.900
really quickly? Abortion would be the forcible termination of an unborn human life. Yes. But
00:46:34.140
like, why do you hold that definition? Like, would you not assume like something like a,
00:46:37.420
like a C-section would be considered an abortion? No, because the baby is, is born
00:46:40.880
alive. So how would that be an abortion? Why would, why, what does the definition of
00:46:44.100
abortion have to include the death of a fetus? Because that's literally the definition of
00:46:47.320
abortion. It literally isn't though. Where are you getting this definition from? Where
00:46:50.220
are you getting your definition from? Let's go to like, what, like, do you like in like Mayo
00:46:53.620
Clinic, like any, any like hospital you've ever gone to before? A C-section ends with the birth
00:46:58.920
of the child. Right. But I know, but abortion, but abortion, but abortion generally, I understand
00:47:04.160
this. I'm here. I'm talking to you. I know, baby. I understand this, but like, yes, but
00:47:08.600
like, no. Well, yes, but like, no. But no, uh, you can say, you can simply say that abortion
00:47:13.380
is simply the ending of a pregnancy, right? So the ending of a pregnancy outside of the
00:47:16.400
natural birth of a fetus. So I don't see that. I don't see why you would say that like
00:47:19.760
it would have to end in the death of a fetus, which is why I'm pro-abortion all nine months.
00:47:22.760
Right. Because say, if a woman is not able to pass a fetus in the natural way, uh, we
00:47:27.020
can have these other abortion, uh, uh, processes that would say like, okay, like she needs some
00:47:31.360
part, some type of induction that doesn't include the actual natural expulsion of a
00:47:34.820
fetus, but it doesn't always end in the death of a fetus. So I don't see how you could say
00:47:37.660
that her Kamala Harris stance is immoral. I just don't understand how you're removing
00:47:41.960
the death of the fetus from the equation about abortion. That's literally the entire moral
00:47:44.800
issue. You and I would not even be arguing if we were talking about C-sections or about
00:47:48.320
natural birth. But it seems like at this core though, we disagree on what the
00:47:51.000
inherent definition of abortion is. Okay. Then you could leave away, you could, I mean,
00:47:53.480
we could very easily solve this. Let's just not talk about the word abortion. Let's
00:47:56.040
talk about the forcible termination of a baby. Okay. Okay. So then what do you value
00:47:59.180
in the fetus then? The life of the fetus. Okay. So then what is this? You said it
00:48:03.120
begins at conception? Yes. And why is that? Because that is literally the biological
00:48:06.660
definition of when an independent life begins. Yes. But like, why does it have moral
00:48:09.240
value? It has moral value because that's literally the biological definition of
00:48:12.200
when a human life begins. Right. But like, why does that have moral value though? Okay. Why does
00:48:15.160
any life have moral value? I would value sentience. But why? Right. Because this is simply, this is
00:48:20.520
what we value, like you and I value. Like, is it okay to like unplug like a, like a brain
00:48:23.600
dead patient, for example? I mean, the, the question is whether it's okay to unplug a
00:48:27.040
brain dead patient, actually quite a controversial one in sort of religious circles. But as far
00:48:30.920
as why, I'm just wondering if, if somebody's in a coma and you know, they're going to wake
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up, do you have the right to unplug them? Well, a coma is not brain dead though. We know
00:48:38.240
that there's future sentience there. Like it would be like a matter of like a contract
00:48:40.820
of like past future, like I'm sorry, past, present, or future sentience. But like a person
00:48:43.880
in a coma has, has. I agree. And guess what? Fetuses also have guaranteed future
00:48:49.600
sentience. Well, no, because you're only valuing one half of the conjunct. That's not,
00:48:53.440
right. So it would be past, present, or future. Now you're changing the topic. I mean,
00:48:55.640
we started with what's the value of the fetus. Thank you so much. Thanks a lot.
00:49:03.880
You know, it's actually more challenging than you think to debate someone who is that fundamentally
00:49:09.640
wrong about everything. I think people make the mistake when you watch something like that
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and you go, I could do that. That woman's a moron.
00:49:14.100
Uh, it, it, it's, it's harder than you think because the challenge is that, as you can see
00:49:21.540
in the clip, your opponent will jump from one irrelevant, inane point to another rapid fire
00:49:28.940
style. And each point is so baseless and so preposterous and so disconnected from reality
00:49:35.140
and so unrelated often to the topic at hand that it's hard to know where to begin when you
00:49:40.840
engage with it. I mean, there's, she was wrong on every level about every single thing she said
00:49:47.300
in that conversation. And, you know, just as you start engaging with one wrong thing,
00:49:53.360
she's hopped off that lily pad and onto the next one. So it's a bit like trying to wrestle,
00:49:58.340
uh, you know, metaphorically a giant slug. The slug is so ungainly and big and slimy
00:50:03.500
that it's just difficult to pin down. You're not, you're probably not going to lose the match to the
00:50:08.160
slug, but it's just, you don't know, there's nothing to grip onto here. And that's the position
00:50:13.260
that Ben was in, uh, during that two and a half minute exchange. He did a remarkably good job
00:50:17.500
given those challenges. But what you really see in that clip is the fundamental moral and
00:50:22.440
scientific confusion that lies at the root of leftism. The woman is sure that she supports abortion,
00:50:30.680
but she doesn't even know what abortion is or what human life is or when human life has value
00:50:37.840
or why it has value. She has a position on abortion, but not on any of the individual
00:50:43.000
points that should inform her position on abortion. You know, this, this logically speaking,
00:50:50.580
if you have a position on something like abortion, then that should be built on top of a bunch of other
00:50:57.180
positions that lie underneath it that lead you to supporting abortion. But what you find with
00:51:05.600
these people is that when you look deeper, they, all the points underneath the larger point,
00:51:10.180
they have no clue. They don't even know. They have no idea. This is a woman so helplessly confused
00:51:16.720
that she has gone through life thinking that a C-section is the same thing as an abortion.
00:51:23.660
This is a dangerous level of confusion and ignorance, but confusion and ignorance, uh, don't have to be
00:51:31.420
dangerous. You know, if you're confused and ignorant and aware that you're confused and ignorant,
00:51:36.720
then that could be the starting point on a journey towards greater knowledge and understanding. The
00:51:42.160
problem is that the leftists sitting around that circle are confused and ignorant and at the same
00:51:46.140
time, arrogantly self-assured. These are people volunteering to debate Ben Shapiro, one of the best
00:51:52.940
rhetoricians in the country, who's like, this is what he does. I mean, rapid fire debates with a bunch of
00:51:57.800
people. That's like, this is, this is, and you're volunteering for that despite having no grasp on
00:52:05.040
any of the topics that are going to be discussed. It's just a lethal mixture of ignorance and arrogance
00:52:12.100
on the plus side. It does make for some funny viral videos on the negative side. It's completely
00:52:18.340
destroying our country and civilization. So, you know, those two things, I don't know if they balance
00:52:21.780
that or not. And that brings us finally to this clip, um, which is, uh, has all of the problems
00:52:27.860
of the last one, but is, is somehow, uh, even worse. Watch. Wow. Okay. We're going to take this
00:52:33.600
chair. Look at that. Hey, Ben. Like a bro, my friend. All right. How's it going? Let's break open
00:52:39.360
a beer or something. So, uh, first question, can men get pregnant? Men cannot get pregnant. Okay.
00:52:44.060
Okay. Awesome. So, uh, definitionally, definitionally. Okay. Uh, do men experience SA, sexual assault?
00:52:54.540
Sure. Got it. What about the existence of trans men? What, what about the existence? Do you mean
00:53:02.320
women who believe that they are men? What are, what are we talking about here?
00:53:06.200
Women experiencing gender dysphoria. So my other question is, do you benefit from white supremacy
00:53:10.840
in any way, shape or form? I, uh, in it, I'm, I'm going to need more specifics on what you mean
00:53:17.600
by white supremacy. Let me give it to you then. Sure. Please. So I'm a transgender man. Okay.
00:53:21.340
I've experienced SA. Okay. And abortion rights affect me directly. So if we're talking about the
00:53:28.820
American dream that you live, why don't I have access to that? Because there's no legislation,
00:53:34.360
what in the history of America that legislates a man's body. So why does mine have to be legislated?
00:53:39.600
I've got a vagina. Um, I'm not interested in what your genitalia are. Clearly you are. I mean,
00:53:46.220
it's all over everything you make, buddy. I'm sorry. I hate to say it to you, but I think you
00:53:51.080
can read on my face that I radically am not. I think you can read on my face that I radically am
00:53:55.100
not when we're talking about abortion. I mean, you can present it here, but in most of the content
00:53:58.980
that you have, you attack my community constantly and you don't even realize guys like me exist
00:54:03.220
who actually share a lot of similarities to you and everything. Cause I'm a married man of 20
00:54:07.780
years. I've got a wife. I recognize that you exist. I disagree with your claim that you are a male.
00:54:13.660
Um, that goes on by the way, for another three, four minutes, the M night Shyamalan twist in that
00:54:19.960
clip is that the man is actually a female. Of course, it's not much of a twist because even before she
00:54:26.120
reveals herself as a female, you could already tell, uh, she was interrupting constantly and bringing up a
00:54:31.400
whole bunch of irrelevant personal details in an argument. So that was a dead giveaway. Uh, also
00:54:38.160
the flipping the chair around the exaggerated posture, you know, it's all of it had the cartoonish
00:54:43.040
quality of somebody playing a character. And I really love flipping the chair around to sit down
00:54:48.740
because that's like, that's what you think a man would do. When in reality, like a man, when we see
00:54:53.520
a chair, we just sit in it. Like we don't, I like having the back of the chair available so I can sit
00:54:58.920
back and that, you know, I don't, that's just, that's what men do. We just, we don't see a chair
00:55:03.220
as an opportunity to like perform. Uh, but then she gives up on that, you know, 20 seconds in and
00:55:09.320
just flips the chair back around the real way and then sits down. Um, but once again, you see the
00:55:14.860
inherent challenge of debating a leftist. I mean, we watched that clip for a minute and a half and
00:55:19.420
by the end of it, it still isn't clear what point she's trying to make or what position she's
00:55:26.700
supposedly even defending. Like if I showed you that clip and I didn't tell you that they're
00:55:31.400
supposed to be talking about abortion, you wouldn't even really know that. She's bringing
00:55:35.820
up all these things that have nothing to do. I'm a trans man. I've, uh, I'm married. I've been
00:55:41.840
married for 20 years. I was sexually assaulted. It's like, okay, what does any of that have to
00:55:49.260
do with the topic? In theory, she's supposed to be arguing against Ben's claim that Kamala's
00:55:53.820
extreme pro-abortion stance is morally indefensible, but she opens by informing Ben that she has a
00:56:00.000
vagina, that she identifies as Tran, that she's been sexually assaulted and that she's been married
00:56:06.040
for 20 years. Now that being sexually assaulted, that's tragic. It's a tragic point. We pity her
00:56:11.420
for it. Uh, we, we feel sympathy for her. None of those details though, again, have anything to do
00:56:18.820
with the topic, anything, none of it amounts to an argument of any kind. What, what she's trying
00:56:28.740
to establish apparently is that she has a personal stake in the abortion issue, but her personal
00:56:36.300
stake doesn't make her right. And it doesn't make her more credible. In fact, if anything,
00:56:41.420
if anything, it goes the other way. You know, when somebody is personally invested in an issue,
00:56:48.860
it can create a bias, which can create, which, which can interfere with their ability to assess
00:56:55.000
the arguments objectively. You know, what happens here, this is the other thing you see in this,
00:56:59.780
in that little clip is that the left constantly tries to hold our objectivity against us
00:57:06.860
as if we are discredited by our lack of personal bias. So they like to point out that pro-life men
00:57:15.000
are not a harmed by abortion, right? It's not our body. It's not our lives at stake. Don't like
00:57:21.220
abortion. Don't get one. That's the refrain. We've heard it a million times. And they're right to a
00:57:28.240
off my nose personally. If a woman gets an abortion, I am not personally harmed by it.
00:57:34.680
I suffer no personal injury and it doesn't directly impact my life in any tangible way.
00:57:41.100
And yet I'm still opposed to it. I gain nothing from opposing it. I don't benefit from opposing it.
00:57:49.600
I don't benefit if I agreed with it. I have no benefit. It does not benefit me. I have no
00:57:55.100
personal stake in this. That's right. But that only makes me and other pro-life men more credible.
00:58:02.200
Like if anything, it increases our credibility. It means that we oppose abortion purely because
00:58:07.520
we have assessed the arguments for and against and come to the conclusion that the arguments against
00:58:13.460
abortion are better and more persuasive. That again is called objectivity. It doesn't make you
00:58:21.520
less credible. It makes you more credible. As we see in the clips, they in principle oppose
00:58:29.660
any objective analysis of the facts. In their world, whoever has a deeper emotional investment
00:58:36.840
in the subject always wins. That's really why in both of these clips, you see them bring up
00:58:42.760
irrelevant things and why she's going through all of her personal past history and trauma.
00:58:48.420
Because in her mind, if I can prove that I have a deeper emotional investment in this issue,
00:58:53.960
I'm automatically right. I automatically win just because it would hurt my feelings more
00:58:59.700
if I don't win. And the other good thing for them is they always have the deeper emotional
00:59:07.160
investment in their minds because their emotions are always deeper and more profound than anyone
00:59:12.440
else's. That's how you end up with people who are so fantastically wrong about everything and yet
00:59:18.640
so sure of their rightness. Which is why I could never sit down and debate 25 of these people
00:59:24.880
one at a time. But I'm glad that guys like Ben are willing to do it. And that's why his 25
00:59:31.380
interlocutors are today canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching.
00:59:36.560
Thanks for listening. Talk to you on Monday. Have a great day. Godspeed.
00:59:39.400
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