Ep. 1486 - Here's The Real Reason Why Our Birth Rate Is Plummeting
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A growing number of older people are grieving the fact that they will never become grandparents as more and more young people refuse to start families and have children. This is an aspect of the birth rate decline that isn t discussed enough. Also, Trump s latest cabinet picks have the media in a state of full-on panic, and it s hilarious to behold. Trump and Biden meet for the first time since Trump s historic election victory, and the new Snow White, Rachel Zegler, has ramped up her campaign to alienate as much of the potential audience as possible. We ll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the New York Times published an article this week about the growing
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number of older people who are grieving the fact that they will never become grandparents as more
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and more young people refuse to start families and have children. This is an aspect of the birth
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rate decline that isn't discussed enough. We'll talk about it today. Also, Trump's latest cabinet
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picks have the media in a state of full-on panic, and it's hilarious to behold. Trump and Biden meet
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for the first time since Trump's historic election victory, and the new Snow White, Rachel Zegler,
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has ramped up her campaign to alienate as much of the potential audience as possible.
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This time, she's viciously attacking the 75 million Americans who voted for Trump.
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We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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too. That's Walsh to 989898. Text now. You know, we've talked a lot over the years about the decline
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in the birth rate and the rapidly increasing number of young adults who are refusing to get married and
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have children. As much as we discussed the subject, we still have not discussed it enough. It is one of
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the great crises facing our civilization at the present moment. When a society gives up on having
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children, it has given up on its future. It has given up on itself. And well, that matters. That
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matters a lot. Now, of course, plenty of people are still having children. We haven't entered full-on
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children of men territory quite yet. Our population is still growing, just as the population of the
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world is still growing. But the growth is slowing, and we have long since crossed the crucial threshold
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in this country where our fertility rate is now below replacement level. We are no longer having
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enough babies to replace older people as they die off. And as a consequence, our population itself
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grows older and more top-heavy, and all kinds of complications follow from that. And those
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complications quickly turn into catastrophes. We've discussed many aspects of this problem, but
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it's a problem so deep and all-encompassing that there are always going to be new dimensions to
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explore. And a few days ago, the New York Times, engaging in another random act of journalism,
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as Rush Limbaugh used to call it, published a piece homing in on a facet of the birth rate decline
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that, until now, hadn't gotten much press, if any at all. The article is titled,
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quote, The Unspoken Grief of Never Becoming a Grandparent. And the piece by Katherine Pearson
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has gotten a decidedly mixed reaction. Some people, myself included, found it to be a profoundly sad,
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yet very empathetic and very interesting look at a group of people who are suffering in a unique way
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from our society's plummeting birth rate. But other people were angry and offended for reasons we'll
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talk about in a moment. But first, let's read a little bit of this article. It says, quote,
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Lydia Burke, 56, has held on to her favorite copy of The Velveteen Rabbit since her three children,
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now in their 20s and 30s, were young. She loved being a stay-at-home mother and filled her family's home
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with books. All of her children could read before they started school, Ms. Burke recalled with pride.
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She hoped one day to be a cool grandma who would share her favorite stories with a new generation.
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But none of her children want to have kids. And though that decision is right for them,
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Ms. Burke said, it still breaks her heart. I don't have young children anymore,
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and now I'm not going to have grandchildren, she said. So that part of my life is just over.
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Like Ms. Burke, a growing number of Gen Xers and baby boomers are facing the sometimes painful fact
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that they are never going to become grandparents. A little more than half of adults 50 and older
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had at least one grandchild in 2021, down from nearly 60% in 2014. Amid falling birth rates,
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more U.S. adults say they're unlikely to ever have children for a variety of reasons. Chief among them,
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they just don't want to. Now, the article continues along with more anecdotes along these lines. I'm not
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going to read them all here, but you should go find the article and read for yourself. They're quite sad,
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quite illuminating though. And there are many older people these days with children who swear
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they will never have children of their own. And the reasons they give for remaining childless
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in the article are all very similar. They point to the economy, the state of the world,
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climate change, of course, and so on. None of them feel they have any obligation to have kids and
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carry on the family name and the bloodline. They're thinking only about themselves and what would
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make them most comfortable. And they've decided that they're most comfortable being childless and
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alone. So their parents will just have to deal with the loneliness and grief that comes from that.
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That's the general attitude. It's also the attitude of many commenters on this article.
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There's plenty of sympathy for the would-be or want-to-be grandparents, but there's also a lot of
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this sort of thing, quote, boo-hoo, get over yourself. I chose not to have children. That is,
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was my choice, which was clear from day one with my spouse. He married me on those terms. I'm not
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responsible for my parents' happiness. They are. They tried to guilt me into it during the first
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few years I was married, but eventually gave up. It was never their choice to make.
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A lot of empathy there. A similar message in this comment says, quote,
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I feel it's extremely self-centered of any person who expects others to make decisions that will make
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them happy. Too many parents try to live their lives vicariously through their children.
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Children do not owe their parents everything. Besides, many of us were forced to babysit our
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younger children. I had 18 years of watching my three younger siblings and having to work in my
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mother's daycare center. My God, if I had my own children, I would have ended up spending my entire
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life raising children. My purpose in life is not to watch slash raise children. With the recent parental
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theory practice of making the oldest child the third parent, making them help raise their younger
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siblings, you can expect that more people will reject parenthood when they become adults.
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I have to clarify one thing here, and this is a theme that we're going to see emerge
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in these people that, you know, reject having kids, is that they just have no understanding of
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history at all. They have no clue. They just have no idea what human history consists of. Not even like
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the foggiest general idea. Because it is not a recent theory that older children should help care for
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their younger siblings. This is not like a recent phenomenon. This is how all human societies have
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worked since the dawn of our species. This commenter is suggesting that more people are
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rejecting parenthood because they were raised in the same way that billions of humans have been raised
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since time immemorial. And again, this is a common theme. People with absolutely no understanding of
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human history have decided that the challenges they face are utterly unprecedented. When in fact,
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they have not dealt with a single thing that billions of other people haven't also dealt with.
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And those billions of people still had families in spite of it.
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This article also went viral on X, as you would expect. And the commentary there,
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very similar. A couple of examples, quote, unspoken? My parents never shut the F up about
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wanting grandkids. Don't F up the economy for your children and then get surprised when they can't
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afford kids. Then another one says, these grandparents should have built enough generational
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wealth so their kids would feel financially secure enough to start a family. The unspoken grief of not
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being a trust fund nepo baby who can easily support a family. Now, obviously, we hear this excuse
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constantly. We're told that people aren't having kids today because of the economy. And the economy
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makes it impossible, I've been told. This person blames the birth rate decline on a lack of generational
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wealth. And let me reiterate a point that I made on Twitter, which seems to have upset a lot of people.
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And now I'm going to upset them again because I'll say it again. The economy is not preventing anyone
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from starting a family or having children. Okay? It's not preventing anyone.
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Now, I'm not denying that the economy is in poor shape at the moment.
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But that is not a good reason or a valid reason for a society to give up on the family. If anything,
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it's all the more reason not to give up on the family. You only make, what do you think happens
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to the economy when everybody gets older and you don't have enough younger people coming up the ranks?
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You think that makes the economy better? Is that going to solve the problem?
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And also, you don't need generational wealth to start a family. Okay? You don't need to be a
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trust. This is what we're hearing. You have to be a trust fund nepo baby to simply have a kid.
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You have to be a multimillionaire living in extreme luxury to afford even a single child. I mean,
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this is the kind of mentality that many people have now. It's totally delusional.
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I did not have any generational wealth when I started my family. And those of you who've
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listened to this show for a long time are familiar with my story. I was broke when I got married. The
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economy wasn't exactly humming at the time either. There's another thing I'm told all the time by
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people, younger people, especially when they're trying to justify that they don't want to have
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kids. I say, well, you don't know what it's like. You don't know what the economy. You don't know
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what it's like. Do you think this is the only time there's been a bad economy? Do you really think
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that? The economy crashed when I was in my early twenties. It's called the great recession.
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Okay. Big, big crash. Wasn't all that long ago. So that's, that's the situation I was in when I was
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just entering young adulthood. Okay. Couldn't afford a house. I was living in an apartment on a meager
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salary. So broke, I frequently had to pay for gas with the spare change in the cup holder in my car.
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You know, and we weren't in much better shape when we had our first two kids.
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We didn't buy our first house until we had already had three kids. You don't need to be rich to start
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a family. You do not need to come from a rich family to start a family. You don't need a strong
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economy. Economies ebb and flow. Okay. They go up and they go down. If you ever have kids, okay,
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here's the thing. If you ever have kids, if you ever have them, it is guaranteed that you will have kids
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during a weak economy. And the reason is that it may be strong when you have them,
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but you'll still be a parent 10 years from then when the economy dips again.
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The economy may be weak now when you have kids, but you'll be a parent 10 years from now when it's
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stronger. This is how economies work. And that's why you can't wait around for the economy to permit
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you to move on with your life and do the things that you're meant to do as a human being.
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Now I use my own story as an example because it's my own story. Also because it's important that
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when I talk about this, that you know that I've actually, I've actually done the thing that I'm
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advocating for, which makes me more credible with discussing this, not less. But of course,
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even at my brokest point, I was still then rich compared to the vast majority of humans who've ever
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lived on earth. And you right now listening to this, no matter what your financial situation is,
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you are richer than almost everyone who has ever lived. Okay. People with fewer resources than you
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have been reproducing since the beginning of human existence. Literally billions of people have done
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the thing that we are now told you can't do unless you have a hundred thousand dollars in savings.
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If people had this attitude in the past, the human species would not exist.
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So if this is your attitude, you have an attitude that if, if, if this was, if this was prevalent 200
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years ago, it would be the extinction of mankind. Like that's not an exaggeration.
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So you say that you can't afford to start a family. Well, how can that be? How can it be that
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you can't afford it? And yet billions of people have afforded it with less. How is it that you can't
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do something that has been done under more difficult circumstances, billions of times?
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And I'm often told by younger people that the situation now is just too difficult. Everything's
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too expensive. You know, and I don't understand. I can't relate. Again, it's like they think the
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history of the world started 45 minutes ago. If you think the challenges you face today are so
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unprecedented that they mean we should stop reproducing as a species, then you simply have
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no understanding of world history. You don't know what the world was like. You don't know what
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your ancestors had to deal with. You don't even know what people 10 years older than you had to
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deal with. People have been through recessions, depressions, famines, wars, catastrophes of all
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kinds, and they continued having children. They continued building families. Sure, fertility rates
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have gone up and down over the years and decades, but there's never been a time when mass amounts of
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young adults have simply sworn off parenthood altogether. That has never happened until now.
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Do you really think you face greater hurdles than your great-great-grandparents did during the
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Great Depression? Do you really think it's harder to have a family now than it was when the Black
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Death was wiping out a third of the population of Europe? Yes, these days, young families may
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struggle to buy a starter home, and that's a struggle. I'm not dismissing it. I struggled
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with that too in my early 20s. Look, if there was ever a time when it was easy for someone in their
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20s to afford a nice home, that time lasted for like 30 seconds 40 years ago, okay? It was never like
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that before. It hasn't been like that since. It'll probably never be like that again. So just get over
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it, okay? Just get over it. You have no choice. Most people in the history of the earth could never
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dream of living in any kind of home at all. In fact, for most people who've ever lived, the greatest
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challenge in starting a family was not a starter home. It was that half of their kids wouldn't live
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past infancy, and yet they still started families. They still forged on. The truth is that the economy
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is not stopping anyone from having kids. It's not that they can't afford it. It's that they don't
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want to make the sacrifices it requires. They'd have to give up a certain measure of comfort in
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order to start a family, and they don't want to do that. For most of the people who say they can't
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afford kids, that's what they mean. That's how we can end up in a situation where someone says they
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can't afford kids, even though they're wealthier and more comfortable than billions of people who
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somehow could afford it. It's because what they really mean to say is that they can't afford the
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same level of luxury and comfort while also having kids. It's not really a matter of affordability.
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It's a matter of priority. A lot of people today prioritize their own pleasure and enjoyment over
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anything and everything else. Another one of the comments under the article that I read was from a
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woman who said that her household income between herself and her husband is $150,000 and they can't
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afford to have a kid. Household income of $150,000, they can't afford it. There are people out there
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making a tenth of that who have kids. They can't afford it at $150,000. That's it right there. That is
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the attitude. It's that sort of thing that has led to the birth rate decline. The irony, of course, is
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that you so often end up with far less pleasure and enjoyment. When you prioritize that above all,
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you end up with less of it than people who don't prioritize it. The truth is that you can start a
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family and have kids and then down the line end up far richer than you were when you were childless.
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I'm a testament to that. Millions of other examples are available to you. I mean, this is not an uncommon
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thing, especially these days. It's possible to do. But one of the most basic realities of life is that if
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you want more, you have to be willing to risk what you already have. You have to put your chips on the
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table. If you won't do that, you'll be stuck in exactly the spot you're in right now forever until
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eventually you lose that too. And that brings me to the final point that I want to make. You know, we heard
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those responses to the New York Times article from people who insisted quite indignantly that
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they don't owe it to anyone to have kids. But actually, you kind of do. And nobody will tell
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you this. Nobody will talk about the obligation to start a family. The idea that any of us have any
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obligations at all is, of course, anathema to the modern mind. We are deeply distressed by the thought
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that we owe anything to anyone ever. But, you know, you could be distressed about it all you
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want. I will say what no one else will say to you. You do actually owe it. You have a duty.
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Now, there are exceptions. Some people are called to a life of service apart from biological
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parenthood. Some people simply can't have kids. I get that. There are other vocations that human
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beings can have. But most of us are called to start families. And for those of us who are called,
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we do owe it. We do have a debt. We're called. We are called to it.
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Your ancestors suffered and bled and died to build the civilization you live in now and to give you all
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of the comforts and luxuries that you take for granted. They lived lives that were, by our standards,
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brutal and short and impoverished. They built their lives by hand from scratch. They built the
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civilization that you live in from scratch. You think you can't afford children. Well, you have a
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grandfather, not all that far back in your lineage, who built a one-bedroom cabin by hand, shared it with
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your grandmother and eight kids, one of whom gave birth to the person who gave birth to the person who
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gave birth to the person who gave birth to you. You experience more comfort and luxury in a single day
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than that man did in his entire life combined. His life would have been easier if he never had kids.
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But he had them. Because he wanted you to exist. He was actually thinking 100 years into the future,
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200 years, 300 years. You come from a long line of people who actually cared about what the world
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would look like in the distant future, even as you only care about what you're going to have for lunch
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this afternoon. And you don't have just one grandfather like that. Your bloodline was carried
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on through the centuries by men and women of that type. They carried your family name and your lineage
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and your history and everything that makes you, you. They carried it on their backs and they suffered
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for its sake. And now after all of that, after those thousands of years of struggle and strife,
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just to bring you into this world, you're going to shrug your shoulders and refuse to continue.
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They ran marathons, handed you the baton, and you're going to just sit down in a lawn chair and say,
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sorry, you wasted your efforts. The race ends here. I don't, I don't feel like running. I don't feel
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like it. Nah. All of that is going to end with you going, nah. Nope. You're going to wipe out your
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lineage and bloodline just so you have more time to watch Netflix? Thousands of years of toil end
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with you by your own choice because you just can't be bothered? That is a failure of historic
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proportions. It is a failure to live up to your obligation because yes, you have an obligation to
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the people who built this world. You have an obligation to continue what they built. Now, I'm
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not saying, I know that what I'm saying here is not going to be the most compelling argument to most
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people these days. I know that. And I know that a lot of people are going to, it's going to get
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shared on Twitter. People are going to snicker about it. And this is dumb. We have an obligation
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to our ancestors to continue the lineage. That's stupid. Who cares about, you know, there'll be a lot
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of that. You know, a lot of that. I get it. Because to a lot of people these days, the idea
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that they should have any respect for their ancestors, much less that they have any obligations
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to them, is totally foreign. Now, I realize that. We are a culture severed from its own past,
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living in a perpetual state of now, as though the past never happened and the future will never happen.
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That's how you end up with people who act as though they're facing unprecedented financial
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hardships because they can't afford to buy a three-bedroom house at the age of 23.
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I understand all that. But what I'm saying is still true, all the same.
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So, if your parents are sad that you aren't giving them any grandchildren, this is why.
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They have every right to be sad. They are mourning not only their own loneliness,
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but also the fact that you're choosing to squander 10,000 years of work.
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They're mourning the extinction of their bloodline. And they're wondering what the point of any of
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this ever was. If it all ends like this, it all ends with you for no good reason.
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commercialization or the yearly debate over whether it's okay to say Merry Christmas anymore.
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apply. See terms for details. So more Trump picks coming in. And this one is great. The Daily Wire
00:24:17.460
reports President-elect Donald Trump tapped former Representative Tulsi Gabbard on Wednesday to serve as
00:24:22.200
the Director of National Intelligence. He said in a statement, I'm pleased to announce that former
00:24:27.180
Congresswoman and Lieutenant Colonel Tulsi Gabbard will serve as Director of National Intelligence for
00:24:31.080
over two decades. Tulsi has fought for our country and the freedoms of all Americans. As a former
00:24:36.020
candidate for the Democrat presidential nomination, she had broad support in both parties, now a proud
00:24:41.500
Republican. So this is amazing for so many reasons. One of them is that Tulsi Gabbard was just
00:24:48.080
recently put on a terror watch list by the TSA under Biden. And now she's going to be the boss of
00:24:54.040
whoever put her on that list. And she'll be able to find out who that person is, presumably. And
00:24:59.860
she'll be their boss. Well, she won't be their boss very long because hopefully they're fired, but still.
00:25:06.660
And there's a lot more to like about that pick. Before we get into that, there was also this Daily
00:25:12.900
Wire again. President-elect Donald Trump nominated Representative Matt Gaetz, one of his most ardent
00:25:18.040
supporters, to serve as the next Attorney General of the United States. Trump posted on social media,
00:25:23.660
Matt is a deeply gifted and tenacious attorney, trained at the William and Mary College of Law,
00:25:28.140
who has distinguished himself in Congress through his focus on achieving desperately needed reform
00:25:31.740
at the Department of Justice. Now, this one, this one, as expected, has gotten a decidedly
00:25:39.300
mixed reaction on the right. Now, on the left, it's not mixed. They are all in agreement that it's
00:25:46.020
a disaster. They're apoplectic. It's in a state of shock, trembling with rage. This was a shock and
00:25:52.920
awe pick by Trump. And I have to say, I love the pick. I think it's a great pick. I love this one.
00:25:59.800
I love the Tulsi Gabbard pick. And I love them both for basically the same reason, which is that if we're
00:26:04.720
serious about dismantling the deep state and gutting the federal bureaucracy, if that is actually going
00:26:10.040
to happen, if it's going to happen for the first time ever, it will require certain kinds of people
00:26:16.580
to do. And they're going to have to be the kinds of people that the media, the left, and many even on
00:26:21.300
the right, hate. Which is why, at this point, my number one qualification for a Trump cabinet post
00:26:29.620
is that the media freaks out over it. That's like, if the media doesn't freak out, if Trump picks
00:26:35.400
someone and the media is like, oh, okay, well, that one's not so bad. That tells me that it's a
00:26:40.780
really, really bad pick. So this is what we want. And it's not because we're just trying to trigger
00:26:48.120
the libs with the cabinet picks. I mean, that's fun. We can all have fun with that. That's an added
00:26:54.780
bonus. But no, it's because we need the kinds of brazen wild card type characters who will go in
00:27:03.080
there and do the job that needs to be done. You know, the wrecking balls, the bulls in the
00:27:07.680
china shops or whatever cliche you want to use. That's what's necessary. Matt Gaetz is definitely
00:27:13.280
that. Tulsi Gabbard will be that. So I think it's a great pick. There is a time maybe for more
00:27:21.160
buttoned up traditional business-like picks. I'm not saying that if you transplanted me
00:27:27.340
into any other time in American history, I would always support Matt Gaetz as the attorney general.
00:27:34.600
But I do support him in this time right now for what needs to be done.
00:27:37.920
And you have to, you also have to ask yourself, when Trump makes a pick, and you're going back to
00:27:51.580
the left's reaction, when Trump makes a pick and the left freaks out about it, why are they freaking
00:27:59.600
out? What are they upset about? Are they upset that this person will not effectively advance Trump's
00:28:04.960
agenda? Are they worried that it's going to make the Trump administration less effective? Is that
00:28:10.660
their concern? Obviously not. No, this is why I say this is the number one barometer. This is the
00:28:18.260
barometer. This is the test. It's their reaction. And it's, again, not just because we enjoy seeing
00:28:23.560
them upset, although we do. It's why they're upset. They're upset because they know that people like
00:28:29.740
this will actually advance Trump's agenda, and they're not going to go in there and try to
00:28:35.000
undermine Trump. They know these are people that they can't control, that are coming way from the
00:28:43.220
outside. And they're not, they're kind of, as I said, they're wild cards. You can't control them.
00:28:50.440
You can't predict what they're going to do exactly. And that's what they don't like about them.
00:28:55.740
So the only challenge now, of course, is going to be the confirmation process. Trump could try
00:29:00.960
recess appointments. But if that's not the strategy, then he's going to need the Republicans to
00:29:06.720
get in line. And the good news is that Trump has a huge mandate from the public.
00:29:13.820
You know, if he had just kind of squeaked in by the skin of his teeth, if it was one of those things,
00:29:18.240
then it would be tougher. But that's not the case here. This is a huge mandate from the American
00:29:22.440
people. He won in a landslide. And any Republican who obstructs the agenda that Trump was elected to
00:29:28.440
enact will pay a price. And they, I think they know that going in. So I think more of these picks
00:29:34.820
will make it through than maybe what people are expecting. All right. Trump met with Biden in the
00:29:38.880
White House yesterday. It seems to have been quite a pleasant experience for both guys. Here's a quick
00:29:43.840
clip of them sitting by the fireplace and just enjoying a nice chat.
00:29:50.840
President-elect and former president. Donald, congratulations.
00:29:56.560
And looking forward to having a, like we said, smooth transition. Do everything we can to make
00:30:03.280
sure you're accommodating what you need. And we're going to get a chance to talk about some of that
00:30:07.400
today. It's good. Welcome. Thank you very much. And, uh, politics is tough and it's, uh, many cases
00:30:16.980
not a very nice world, but it is a nice world today. And I appreciate it very much. A transition
00:30:23.020
that's so smooth, it'll be as smooth as it can get. And, uh, I very much appreciate that. You're welcome.
00:30:29.180
Um, first of all, what the hell's going on with that fireplace? That fire is way too big. Did you
00:30:35.620
notice that? Like that's a, that's a bonfire in the middle of the living room. You know, that's,
00:30:39.300
that's a fire hazard. That's, um, I know old people get cold easily, but that's, that's ridiculous.
00:30:45.020
I was too distracted by the fireplace to even hear what they were saying, but you know, they seemed
00:30:49.700
like they were, they were getting along. They took a bunch of pictures together also. Uh, let's see
00:30:53.820
some of those pictures of the, um, there they are looking at the pictures. What else do we have?
00:30:59.180
Okay. There, look at the smiles. Look at the smile on Joe Biden. This is the happiest he's looked.
00:31:03.820
He hasn't looked as happy in years. Look at that. He's beaming ear to ear. Um, and look,
00:31:11.280
I'm not a Joe Biden fan by any means, but it's nice to see him. Nice to see the old guy, you know,
00:31:16.500
having a good day for, he hasn't had a good day in a long time. So very happy. Um, happiest he's
00:31:25.320
looked in a long time, triumphantly happy. Why does he look so happy? Well, because he is happy,
00:31:31.420
right? He's so happy that Trump won. This is a man who was absolutely relieved, overjoyed full on MAGA
00:31:37.480
right now is, uh, is Biden. He's, he's on, I guarantee he voted for Trump. I guarantee he did.
00:31:44.200
How could he not? I mean, think of it from Biden's perspective. He nominated
00:31:48.340
this total incompetent do nothing to be his vice president. He drags this woman up,
00:31:54.440
right? Frye pries her loose from the grip of failure and irrelevance, gives her this job.
00:32:00.520
She doesn't deserve and can't, and isn't qualified for. She's a total disaster for three years,
00:32:05.540
total liability, can't do anything, can't complete any task assigned to her. Biden stands by her.
00:32:13.020
Anyway, now, yeah, he didn't, he didn't know where he was standing. He didn't know what was going on,
00:32:17.560
but still he stands by her, defends her the whole time. Then a few months before the election,
00:32:22.520
this woman stabs him in the back, orchestrates a coup against him and takes the job from him. I mean,
00:32:29.720
so was Biden rooting against her? Yes. I mean, Biden was, was hoping to God that Trump would win.
00:32:36.320
No question about it. Of course he was. And look, I have zero sympathy for the guy, but I at least
00:32:41.020
understand, I can understand that. If I was in his shoes, I would totally be rooting for Trump
00:32:46.140
and I would be overjoyed that he won. So he can retire in peace now. Now, sure. He's a one-term
00:32:52.800
president. His tenure was a disaster. He's been totally disgraced. So, you know, there are a lot
00:33:00.800
of reasons for him to be unhappy right now, but at least that horrific she devil didn't win. So he's
00:33:07.020
happy about that. And, you know, of course the other very interesting thing is that he's, he's so
00:33:12.780
happy and so, so, so pleasant in this handing this transition, handing over power to a fascist
00:33:21.820
dictator. That doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? Donald Trump is literally Hitler, worse than
00:33:28.640
Hitler, if anything. And, uh, and you're just, you're just handing him the reins, posing for
00:33:36.240
pictures, happy. Huh? Like it's almost like all that fascist dictator stuff was, um, nonsense that
00:33:46.060
the people saying it never believed for a second, almost as if. All right. Speaking of, uh, she devils,
00:33:51.920
AOC had some thoughts about the election. She was asked during a live stream, whether the Dems lost
00:33:57.340
because of wokeness, you know, which you attribute, uh, too much wokeness to the, as one of the reasons
00:34:03.640
for the loss. And here was her response. Personally, I don't, I think that a lot of voters really don't
00:34:13.520
like fake people and they're sick and tired of fake politicians. And so what I actually think is
00:34:20.440
worse is saying something you don't believe. And so if during the entire time in campaign
00:34:27.100
season, you're saying that you're down with trans people or like the LGBT community, and then
00:34:39.480
you lose an election. And then the next day you say all that stuff was wrong. I actually
00:34:46.520
think what people are more upset about is someone was doing something they didn't believe in just
00:34:50.940
saying something. Like if you actually weren't about that life, why did you campaign as though
00:34:57.960
you were? All right. Now, some people have, uh, seem to be interpreting this as AOC taking a shot
00:35:03.900
at the Democrats, maybe taking a shot at Kamala, accusing her of being fake. You know, she's saying
00:35:08.380
what voters want is authenticity. Uh, so she's saying Kamala was not authentic. She was fake,
00:35:13.940
which she is, you know, Kamala is fake. I mean, but I don't think that AOC
00:35:18.280
is taking a shot at her. Uh, I don't think that she's bold enough to do that because
00:35:24.900
AOC is fake herself. She's a coward. And, um, so she's not going to take a stand like that against
00:35:32.340
her own party. No, what she, what she's doing actually is the opposite. She's trying to defend
00:35:38.020
wokeness. She, she can't admit that the party has gone too woke. So instead she says the real
00:35:44.660
problem is, um, anyone in the party who responds to the election defeat by pulling back from the
00:35:51.420
wokeness. That's the real problem, according to her, because that would be fake and inauthentic.
00:35:56.040
And so that's her point. Um, and she's totally wrong, of course, but it's kind of awkward for me
00:36:03.880
because I don't, you know, I don't really want to correct her. This is the thing was, as we're
00:36:07.680
talking about why the Democrats lost and all of that, I don't. And there are a lot of Democrats that
00:36:13.380
are just completely, they don't under, they don't understand what just happened,
00:36:17.800
or at least they're pretending not to. And I don't really want to, you know, help them. I mean,
00:36:25.380
never, never interrupt your enemies when they're making a mistake, obviously. And I'm happy to let
00:36:30.040
them keep making this mistake. Still, the truth is for the record that yes, the Democrat party went
00:36:35.740
too woke. And that is largely why they just got taken to the cleaners. I mean, that is pretty much
00:36:42.240
the whole story. The trans stuff, the racial demagoguery, DEI. That's it. If the economy
00:36:52.460
was in the exact shape it's in right now, but the Democrats never went full trans, full DEI,
00:36:59.300
full defund the police. If the economy was in the same shape it's in right now, but Democrats had
00:37:05.080
stopped their leftward lurch, say in 2013. So still pretty left wing, still very left wing, but
00:37:13.360
let's just say it had stopped there and had gone no further. Then I don't think they would have
00:37:19.180
gotten annihilated the way they just did. Trump still would have won because Kamala is a terrible
00:37:23.860
candidate, but the worst presidential candidate in American history, probably. But it probably would
00:37:29.560
not have been the landslide that it was. The Democrat party over the past decade has completely
00:37:35.620
divorced itself from reality and insisted that we live in their fantasy world with them.
00:37:43.020
And so it's gone beyond just political correctness to now we've got this whole new version of reality
00:37:51.560
that we want you to pretend you're living in. And we need all of these various signs and displays of
00:38:03.000
loyalty. We need you to talk a certain way, do certain things just to demonstrate that you're
00:38:10.520
playing along with us. People get sick of that. Of course they do. And it does, even though AOC
00:38:19.880
doesn't seem to understand this and never will, never will. And even if she does understand it,
00:38:24.820
she'll never admit it. She can't because this is her whole, this is her whole life. I mean,
00:38:31.940
this is her whole political career. She is one of the principal people responsible for bringing the
00:38:39.440
Democrat party into just full on crazy bat wokeness. So she can't, she can't turn back from it.
00:38:48.160
She can't, she's a, she's all in and always will be. There are some on the left who seem to be
00:38:53.320
coming around a little bit though, to this reality. So for instance, this is pretty remarkable. Here's
00:38:59.400
Ezra Klein with some insights that probably would have helped his party if he'd said it like a year
00:39:05.820
ago and said he waited until it was too late, thankfully. But let's listen to this.
00:39:11.340
I come from outside Los Angeles. I lived in San Francisco until 18 months ago. And I live in New
00:39:18.540
York City. The thing that surprised me least about the election was the sharp red shift in these big
00:39:23.860
cities. Because if you just talk to anybody who lives in them, they are furious. And this idea
00:39:28.360
that like, oh no, the economy is actually good or crime is actually down. This is all just Fox News.
00:39:33.120
Like, shut the f*** up with that. Like, talk to some people who live near you. The rage I just hear
00:39:38.640
from people in New York, this is partially Greg Abbott bussing huge amounts of migrants here. But
00:39:43.180
that does mean, by the way, there are enough migrants that Greg Abbott could bus actual human
00:39:47.560
bodies to New York City. And it was a big enough problem that New York City was not able to
00:39:51.840
effectively deal with it, right? It does show that what was going on on the border was much worse.
00:39:56.180
I think the Democrats were letting themselves accept. For all the cruelty of what Abbott did there,
00:39:59.880
that was not like an ad campaign. Those were like actual people who would come into the country
00:40:04.180
who were overwhelming border states. The sense of disorder rising, right? Not just crime,
00:40:09.460
but homeless encampments, trash on the streets, people jumping turnstiles in subways, crazy people
00:40:15.320
on the streets. You just talk to people and they're mad about it. They feel it's different than it used
00:40:20.260
to be. I mean, in San Francisco, like the fury is overwhelming. And you see that it's not just the
00:40:24.620
presidential level. London Breed, the SF mayor, just lost re-election. In Oakland,
00:40:29.480
they recalled the mayor. A bunch of the progressive DAs across the country were recalled or beaten in
00:40:34.920
re-election campaigns. If Eric Adams has a lot of problems, but if he were obviously on the ballot,
00:40:40.180
he would almost certainly, it seems to me, lose. You have to be able to govern well. People don't
00:40:44.960
follow politics, but they live in the place they live. They see if prices have gone way up. And a
00:40:51.180
bunch of economists telling them, no, no, no, no, don't worry about the price of everything,
00:40:54.940
at least for some people, and maybe net-net, a slight majority of people, real wages have modestly
00:41:02.000
outpaced inflation, is like not going to do it. Because people feel when they get a raise,
00:41:06.680
that's them. And when prices are going up, that's you, the government.
00:41:09.560
Wow. You don't say. Now, there's a shocking bit of analysis. So what you're saying, Ezra,
00:41:20.000
is that people don't like it when your policies make their lives worse.
00:41:27.000
When you make people's lives worse, they don't like that. They prefer for their lives to not be
00:41:33.480
worse. This is the base. This is the insight. That you are actually kind of shocked to hear it
00:41:41.880
from somebody like this. It's just the most basic level of common sense. I mean, it should tell you
00:41:48.080
something if you're on the left, that when we hear even the most basic common sense, we are shocked
00:41:56.300
to hear it from somebody like this. People aren't very happy when you put in place policies that
00:42:04.380
have the direct, intentional effect of making their lives more miserable. And really, the central
00:42:12.880
proposal of wokeness, I suppose, is that the central proposal is that you should put the feelings of
00:42:22.300
privileged groups over your own well-being. I mean, if I had to boil it down, if I had to boil it down,
00:42:30.780
like what is the central thing? What is the, we call this thing wokeness, left, whatever you want to
00:42:35.720
call it. But what is, it's like one sentence. What is the message? What are they proposing? What are they
00:42:41.500
demanding? Really? It's not even a proposal. It's a demand. So what is the demand that this
00:42:49.940
ideology is making? And that's probably it. I think that's probably a pretty good summary is just
00:42:55.340
here are these privileged groups of people and how they feel is more important than your own
00:43:03.560
well-being and the well-being of your family. And so they say that, hey, it may be bad for you and
00:43:12.680
your daughter when a man is in the changing room or in the bathroom or on the girls' sports team.
00:43:19.760
But these people are in a privileged group that it makes them feel better. So you should just
00:43:24.460
allow it. It may be bad for you when you've got violent criminals who are allowed to walk the
00:43:33.780
streets free in your own, in your community. It may be bad for you. Makes you, makes you less safe.
00:43:39.500
You know, you could become a victim of crime. Brings down property values. It's just bad all
00:43:44.220
around. Like there's no advantage. For you, there is no upside to having these, to letting these,
00:43:49.560
bail reform, letting them out, letting them out again and again and again. No advantage to you at all.
00:43:56.500
But, you know, these people belong in a privileged group. Makes them feel better. And so you just have
00:44:04.840
to tolerate it. And it's, so it's this kind of thing over and over and over again. Hey, you're a
00:44:13.760
business owner. It may be bad for you. It may really harm you and your family if people just come
00:44:20.820
in and steal en masse. They come in and shoplift to the point where you have to lock up shampoo
00:44:28.560
bottles. You know, you have to put like a ball and chain around a shampoo bottle so that nobody can,
00:44:34.720
they have to drag it slowly out of the store to get it out. Um, maybe bad for you. It may actually
00:44:40.380
hurt you in very real ways and it hurts your family. It may devastate you, but a lot of the
00:44:50.180
people doing the shoplifting, they belong to a privileged group. Makes them feel better to be
00:44:54.300
able to do this to stop them and make them feel bad. So you just got to put up with it. So again,
00:44:57.640
it's just that over and over and over again. Uh, your wellbeing is less important than the feelings
00:45:02.160
of these particular people. That's it. And you just, it, it's not sustainable. That kind of
00:45:10.620
philosophy, uh, is not sustainable. And you, you may be able to berate certain people into going along
00:45:18.760
with it for a certain amount of time. You may be able to pick on the most gullible and hapless
00:45:24.340
and, um, you know, easily influenced and most impressionable people. You may be able for a,
00:45:31.320
for a period of time, you may be able to make them go along with it. Okay. You may,
00:45:36.100
you may be able to berate them, harangue them into pretending that they're okay with it. When this dude
00:45:43.180
walks into the locker room with a bunch of women and your daughters in there, but it can't last
00:45:50.820
forever. It is not sustainable at a certain people are people. And at a certain point, like it's one,
00:45:55.600
it's a, it's a caring for your own wellbeing is a biological necessity. So you are, you are asking
00:46:03.920
them to reprogram their, you know, not, not just to have different priorities and different preferences,
00:46:08.600
but to reprogram their, their biological nature. These are like basic survival instincts that you
00:46:17.360
are demanding. They reprogram within themselves. They can't. And so eventually, and actually very
00:46:25.120
quickly, it all falls apart. And all you're left with is just, all you're left with is just whining and
00:46:32.680
crying. Oh, but it makes us feel bad. Oh yeah. It, it, it, it may be a lot better for you and your
00:46:42.840
family. Obviously so much better for you. If this country is not overrun by illegal immigrants.
00:46:49.920
Okay. Having 20 million illegal immigrants here, 30 million, whatever we're up to now,
00:46:52.940
who knows how many people having tens of millions of illegal immigrants obviously does not help you
00:46:57.560
in any way as an American citizen, but making them leave makes them feel bad.
00:47:07.580
So if you kick them out, they're going to, they're going to feel really bad about it. Yeah. It's going
00:47:11.840
to make your life better and it's going to make your, your, your children's life better, but it's,
00:47:15.440
it's going to make them feel bad. Um, you know, and that's, that's going to be the argument,
00:47:20.200
but I just think it's not going to, it's, that has kind of run its course. I think that's, um,
00:47:25.200
there's now far beyond a critical mass of Americans who are just
00:47:30.320
are numb to it. They're numb to those kinds of emotional manipulation tactics
00:47:35.940
because they've, uh, they, it's, it's just too much. They've, they've, you, they've heard it too
00:47:41.320
much, you know, and you've screamed in their face so much now it doesn't matter anymore.
00:47:46.480
So that's the problem. And, but I don't think that can the Democrat party really turn back from
00:47:53.740
this. Can they make this change? Uh, can they reverse course? Can they, can they settle back
00:48:00.760
into like a pre 2013 state where they're still pretty crazy and wrong about almost everything, but
00:48:07.600
can they at least pull back a little bit? Um, I think not. I think they can.
00:48:14.740
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Every time we check in on Disney's upcoming Snow White remake, somehow things get even worse than they were
00:50:40.360
before. This is a production that went off the rails a long time ago, which is quite an achievement if you
00:50:44.680
think about it. With all the money and technology we have in 2024, somehow Disney is struggling very hard to
00:50:49.800
match the quality of a film from the 1930s. At first, there were the leaked images of the actors playing the
00:50:55.880
seven dwarves, which weren't dwarves at all because that would be culturally insensitive. So instead,
00:51:00.100
Disney replaced the dwarves with a diverse array of magical hobos. Then when everyone pointed out
00:51:05.200
that the dwarves are kind of important to the story, Disney delayed the production, fired all the actors
00:51:09.380
playing the magical hobos, replaced them with CGI dwarves, which didn't look particularly convincing,
00:51:14.720
but at least they were better than the actors. So some progress was made, I suppose. Goodwill was
00:51:19.500
restored to a degree. Then the star of the film, Rachel Zegler, proceeded to light all that goodwill
00:51:24.440
on fire. She made it clear that she thinks the story of Snow White is actually very creepy and
00:51:28.480
misogynistic. She said Disney was basically going to throw out the old story, get rid of the prince,
00:51:33.940
make a film that supposedly empowers women. And that means downplaying the whole romance thing,
00:51:39.320
which was the whole point of the story. Hiring the Barbie screenwriter and going full on girl boss was
00:51:44.900
the plan. Then a short clip of the film serviced online and we saw exactly what a girl boss Snow White
00:51:49.720
looks like. The clip showed Snow White directing the dwarves to clean their own cottage for her
00:51:54.240
as she instructs them to whistle while they work. Yes, the dwarves come home from a long day at the
00:51:58.940
mines and they're met by a bossy, unpleasant woman telling them to clean up. Doesn't even help them
00:52:04.820
in this version, which is a pretty big change from the original. She also doesn't seem remotely
00:52:07.880
grateful that they're giving her a place to stay when she desperately needs it. Instead,
00:52:11.500
she just sings along and watches the dwarves do all the work, almost sadistically, really.
00:52:16.000
And once again, as you'd expect, this footage caused a backlash and Disney quickly had it scrubbed from
00:52:20.200
the internet. Then a couple of months ago, Disney uploaded this teaser for the film. This was their
00:52:24.900
big moment to win back the fans. Here's just a quick part of it. So the whole thing has this kind
00:52:49.900
of uncanny valley vibe to it. And pretty much all the comments are negative. Just going through some
00:52:55.100
of them. These are the top comments. In order, by the way, I'm not cherry picking. This is just the
00:52:58.400
top comments. Here's what they say. Quote, this is actually hilarious. The first Snow White saved
00:53:02.440
Disney. The second ruined it. Another says, what's the point of doing a live action remake of an animated
00:53:07.060
movie if you're just going to animate half the characters anyway? Then there's this one, quote,
00:53:11.800
it's okay, Disney. You can just cancel the film. We won't be mad if you admit defeat.
00:53:16.320
There are a few people who point out that the trailer has more than a million dislikes on
00:53:19.600
YouTube and fewer than 100,000 likes. It's information that YouTube hides, but it's still
00:53:23.880
accessible apparently. Comments go downhill from there. One reads, wow, Disney, you truly are
00:53:28.880
incredible. It took you three years, multiple rewrites, unnecessary CGI, $209 million just for
00:53:34.440
me to enjoy a comment section of a movie I will never watch. Bless you. Then someone writes,
00:53:39.560
I'm rooting for the poison apple. So you get the idea. Everything about this film is an unmitigated
00:53:44.260
disaster. Even their teaser trailers are bombing. After all this, if there are any adults left at
00:53:49.260
Disney, you'd think they'd be in damage control mode at this point. Maybe they can't control how
00:53:55.160
bad this film is going to be. Maybe they can't improve the CGI on the dwarves anymore. Way too
00:54:00.080
late for script rewrites. Costs a lot of money and they're probably well over budget at this point.
00:54:05.080
But at a minimum, you'd think that they could at least say, tell Rachel Zegler to stop talking like
00:54:11.100
a deranged left-wing activist just for a little bit. Just until the movie comes out. That might mitigate
00:54:16.740
some of the potential future damage for this film, which is somehow already getting even worse
00:54:20.740
press than Joker 2 and not even out yet. But apparently telling Rachel Zegler to behave normally
00:54:26.400
just isn't an option either. So the other day, in response to the presidential election, Zegler
00:54:30.580
had a very public meltdown on her Instagram stories. She wrote, quote,
00:54:35.160
F you, Donald Trump. And she proceeded to insult the 75 million Americans who voted for him. Quote,
00:54:40.520
I find myself speechless in the midst of this. Another four years of hatred leaning us towards
00:54:45.100
a world I do not want to live in. Yeah, you always got to love starting with F you and then ending with
00:54:51.840
complaining about all the hatred in the world. Of course, if Zegler doesn't want to live in America
00:54:59.060
anymore, she's free to leave. She certainly has the resources to do that. But she seems to suggest
00:55:03.600
that Donald Trump will make the entire world uninhabitable, which is kind of a new one. Actually,
00:55:09.000
it's not entirely new. It reminds us of reminds me of 2016 when Cher declared that she would have to
00:55:13.780
leave the planet if Donald Trump won. And she never left, strangely enough, although she kind
00:55:19.120
of looks like she did. And ironically, if she wants to leave the planet now, Elon Musk is probably her
00:55:24.080
best bet, which raises his own complications, I guess. So these celebrities are really running out
00:55:28.600
of options. But Zegler wasn't done there. Her post added that Trump is, quote, leaning us towards a
00:55:34.260
world that will be hard to raise my daughter in, leaning us towards a world that will force her to have a
00:55:38.840
baby she doesn't want, leaning us towards a world that is fearful. She stated that, quote,
00:55:43.720
the left continues to fail us in forging a new path forwards. This loss should not have been,
00:55:48.940
and it certainly should not have been by so many votes. May Trump supporters and Trump voters and
00:55:53.540
Trump himself never know peace. Now, what's amusing about this, of course, is that it's pretty clear
00:56:00.540
that Zegler is the one who doesn't know peace. She's obviously an emotionally unstable basket case who has
00:56:06.340
no idea how to process the fact that none of her paranoia is based in reality, and the vast majority
00:56:11.420
of Americans don't agree with her political views. So instead of coming to terms with her own faults
00:56:16.580
and misconceptions, she says that she wants Trump supporters to suffer emotionally, just as she does
00:56:21.060
every single day. Misery loves company, as they say. In further examples of projection, Zegler went on to
00:56:27.140
state that Trump voters are part of a, quote, deep, deep sickness in this country. She added, quote,
00:56:31.920
quote, there's no help, no counsel in any of them, whatever that means exactly. Then she told all of
00:56:38.540
her fans to delete their X accounts, charging that Elon Musk helped get that man elected.
00:56:44.180
This is a bit of an aside, but this is a common trend now on the left. They're suddenly abandoning
00:56:48.660
X now that Trump has won. The Guardian just announced that it's going to stop posting its articles on X.
00:56:52.940
For one example, ex-CNN anchor Don Lemon, along with a random NYU professor named Jay Rosen,
00:56:58.960
did the same thing. I just saw this morning, Joy Reid has also deleted her X account.
00:57:04.520
What a tragedy. This is a platform that until Election Day, these people claimed was a cesspool
00:57:10.540
of fringe ideas and radical beliefs, but they remained on it anyway. Now that the election has
00:57:15.540
proven that X is actually representative of mainstream thought in America, suddenly they can't
00:57:20.420
tolerate it anymore. They have to abandon the platform. Doesn't really make any sense. You
00:57:25.480
can only conclude that the left is simply incapable of realizing that they're the ones who are far
00:57:29.680
outside the mainstream. When they're confronted with that evidence, they can't process it. So they
00:57:35.540
have to scamper away. They're just totally humiliated. In any event, Rachel Zegler is not capable of
00:57:42.080
experiencing humiliation, so she has no problem telling her supporters to abandon X entirely.
00:57:46.720
She also has no problem going on an unhinged rant against more than half the country,
00:57:50.000
including a lot of people that presumably Disney would like to sell tickets to. Many of those
00:57:54.700
Republican voters are in the target audience for the Snow White remake. They're the people who like
00:57:59.000
these kinds of traditional stories. They're the people who are having kids. These are the kinds
00:58:04.320
of people Disney needs to show up if the movie is going to be remotely profitable. And now the star of
00:58:10.900
the film is telling them all to go to hell. Now, one of the many ironies here is that about a year ago,
00:58:16.500
Disney CEO Bob Iger said the company would stop getting involved in these political fights. He said
00:58:22.700
that they wouldn't push any kind of agenda. He said they'd quiet the noise and proceed with decency and
00:58:27.940
respect for their audience. Well, I guess so much for that. Now, according to the star of Disney's
00:58:34.360
upcoming marquee film, 75 million Americans are horrible people who should suffer for all
00:58:40.920
eternity. The other remarkable aspect to this is that Disney, as you may recall, fired Gina Carano
00:58:48.760
for her allegedly controversial social media post just a couple of years ago. And, you know,
00:58:54.340
Gina Carano never did anything remotely like what Rachel Zegler has done. Gina mocked the idea of
00:59:01.240
wearing masks and preferred pronouns, which makes sense because wearing masks and preferred pronouns
00:59:05.160
are both really dumb ideas. And she pointed out that totalitarian governments make citizens hate
00:59:09.780
one another, which is true. History proves that's true. And for all this, Disney fired her.
00:59:16.260
And her talent agency dropped her on top of it. Gina Carano did not personally attack tens of
00:59:21.220
millions of people. She didn't berate her own fan base. She didn't say that half of the people who
00:59:26.340
watch Star Wars are bad people. She didn't say that. Instead, she articulated views that the vast
00:59:31.220
majority of Americans agree with. So why is she still involved in litigation with Disney to get
00:59:37.860
her job back while Rachel Zegler is the face of the company's upcoming blockbuster film?
00:59:43.280
Now, we all know the answer to that question. Disney, despite what its CEO says, is an explicitly
00:59:47.120
political operation. But more than that, they're vengeful. Even though it's clearly not helping
00:59:52.020
them financially, they can't hide their disdain for tens of millions of Americans. That's very bad
00:59:57.540
news for Disney shareholders and everyone else hoping that this company might one day return to
01:00:01.360
what it once did, which is to create entertaining family films that normal people want to watch.
01:00:07.600
It's virtually a guarantee the Snow White remake is going to continue crashing and burning over the
01:00:11.360
next few months like a slow-moving train wreck. And especially now, after this was the nail in the
01:00:17.380
coffin, now that you've insulted more than half of the people you would need to come watch this movie.
01:00:23.840
And that is why, once again, Disney, their new Snow White film, and Rachel Zegler herself are all
01:00:28.620
today canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to