The Matt Walsh Show - November 26, 2018


Ep. 149 - The Left’s War on Science Escalates


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Length

42 minutes

Words per Minute

158.1375

Word Count

6,720

Sentence Count

399

Misogynist Sentences

24

Hate Speech Sentences

36


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the show, chaos at the southern border, but whose fault is it? We'll talk about that.
00:00:04.800 Also, Twitter is now banning anyone who says that men aren't women. Very Orwellian. We'll discuss it.
00:00:11.320 Finally, a lot of people were upset at me last week because I advocated contacting uncontacted
00:00:18.280 tribes. I'm going to explain my view on that subject in greater detail. All of that coming up
00:00:23.700 next on the Matt Wall Show. Well, I am not the first person to say this, and I know I won't be
00:00:31.460 the last, but let me just throw my endorsement behind those people who, over the course of history,
00:00:38.960 have come out to condemn anyone who jogs around the neighborhood on Thanksgiving weekend.
00:00:49.160 And I just find it to be an outrageous and offensive thing to do. You see, like many
00:00:55.840 families, we have essentially, in my family, we have like three or four Thanksgiving. It's not just
00:01:01.620 one Thanksgiving meal. It's like we have three or four because we do Thanksgiving dinner on
00:01:07.940 Thanksgiving with my wife's side of the family, and then we do a big Thanksgiving dinner with my
00:01:12.520 side of the family on Saturday. And then in between that, on Friday and then also on Sunday, you're
00:01:16.840 eating the leftovers, you're having the pie, and it's a holiday, so you're having beer at like
00:01:21.920 one in the afternoon. And by the end of it, you just, you stumble outside of your house,
00:01:28.640 obese and rotund and lethargic, your stomach just full of turkey grease. And then what do you see?
00:01:38.280 You see that guy jogging sprightly down the sidewalk, showboating, you know, making the rest of us feel
00:01:49.180 bad about ourselves. And I just think, I feel like everyone else, I think to myself, well, that should
00:01:54.640 be illegal. And it should be. There should be. When I am dictator of the country, it will be, you are not
00:02:02.020 allowed to jog from Thursday, Thanksgiving morning until at least the following Wednesday. There is no
00:02:08.340 public jogging allowed because it makes the rest of us feel bad about ourselves. And you have to think
00:02:14.540 about how other people feel. Okay. It's just, it's just simple compassion. All right. So a few things I
00:02:21.840 want to get into as we, as we get back into the week after the, I hope you had a great holiday, by the
00:02:26.420 way. Um, video surfaced online this weekend of the chaos down South, down at the border as people
00:02:33.000 from the so-called migrant caravan are trying to bum rush the border and invade the country illegally.
00:02:38.480 And reportedly border agents shot tear gas on a couple of occasions at some of the illegal invaders.
00:02:45.160 Um, and also there were rocks being thrown at the border agents. Now, liberals of course have been
00:02:50.580 making this, they've been making much of the chaos and blaming it on the U S and saying how terrible it
00:02:55.600 all is, but listen, these are people deliberately attempting to break our laws and push their way
00:03:03.240 into the country. This is a, this is really a national security issue. You can't, obviously you
00:03:08.600 can't have just a mob of people run across the border, even as there are border agents, they're
00:03:14.180 saying, no, stop. And this is, this is one of those things that if it was, if it was in any other
00:03:21.140 situation with any other country, um, there would be no question about it. You know, nobody would be
00:03:26.160 complaining. So like, imagine if I were, if I were, imagine if it were China. Okay. Imagine if I showed
00:03:34.000 up at a Chinese custom post and I tried to run past it, not listening to their instructions to stop.
00:03:42.860 And I just tried to bum rush and run past them. Well, I think I could expect tear gas at the very least,
00:03:49.960 and probably they would be using methods that are quite a bit more aggressive than tear gas.
00:03:54.920 And nobody would feel sorry for me, would they? Everybody would say, well, what in the world were
00:04:00.140 you thinking? You're, you can't just run into China without, they've got a procedures and a process
00:04:05.500 in play. You can't just run past them. Why would you even think that you could do that?
00:04:10.920 They would blame me. If it were me trying to get into China, I would be blamed for it. They would
00:04:16.600 victim blame me. Um, yet we're held to a different and extremely ridiculous standard.
00:04:22.880 Now, one other point about this, um, there are some children who have been mixed up in the chaos
00:04:29.420 and now the government is being, is being accused of tear gassing children.
00:04:35.280 Well, I think first of all, the vast majority of, of the, of the, of the migrants, the so-called
00:04:40.940 migrants in the caravan are not children. These are grown men, but as for the children,
00:04:46.080 and there are some children, I mean, you can look at the photographs and see it for yourself.
00:04:49.880 And I feel sorry for the kids. I am sympathetic to them, but whose fault is it that these kids
00:04:56.920 are mixed up in this? Parents who choose to take their children, um, and who force their children
00:05:05.260 to accompany them as they go on this dangerous journey and they break our laws and they try to
00:05:10.640 get into our country in this dangerous and illegal way. You know, they're the ones at fault. So I feel
00:05:16.280 bad for the kids, but who do you blame? You blame the parents or the adults who are putting the kids
00:05:20.840 in this situation. If you have kids, that's all the more reason to try to enter the country legally
00:05:26.420 in an orderly fashion and not as part of some giant mob. So we have to remember who's at, who's, who's to,
00:05:37.260 who we should blame in that situation. The government is doing its job. It needs to, we have a border,
00:05:43.860 they need to be protected. And there is a procedure to come into this country. If you're not going to
00:05:48.240 follow the procedure, then you can't, we're not just going to let you in. All right. Um, something else
00:05:54.480 that was interesting over the weekend, a, uh, well, this, this starts last week, a feminist
00:06:00.120 was banned, apparently permanently, it looks like from Twitter for repeatedly making the bold and
00:06:06.680 outrageous claim that men are not women. Um, she is, uh, she's one of the rare and I think rather
00:06:13.600 brave feminists, which is why she's rare. It's rare to have a real, an actual brave feminist
00:06:18.680 in America anyway. Um, but she's one of the rare ones who, who, who has stood against the whole idea
00:06:26.360 of transgenderism. Uh, she believes that men are invading, appropriating, cheapening womanhood.
00:06:35.420 And she's absolutely right, of course, but she got banned. And, um, and Twitter has now,
00:06:40.400 Twitter has now instituted some new rules. It has declared that defending biological science
00:06:47.200 is a prohibited offense on their platform. Twitter now says that if you harass a transgender person
00:06:52.640 by simply asserting scientific reality, that's what harassment is now, then you can be kicked off
00:06:58.620 the platform. You're not allowed to question transgenderism on Twitter anymore. That's the,
00:07:03.680 uh, that's the new rule. So what did I do? Well, last night I went on Twitter and I questioned
00:07:08.660 transgenderism and I still haven't been kicked off for it, but we'll see. But here's what I did.
00:07:13.460 Rather than simply arguing my case, as I've argued a million times that men are men and women are
00:07:20.280 women, which is again, a, a banned statement on Twitter. I figured that, uh, rather than simply do
00:07:26.360 that, I figured that I, I give the other side of this debate a chance to explain themselves. Because
00:07:35.320 if it's true that a man can actually be a woman, and if that fact is so self-evident and so obvious
00:07:42.740 that anyone who doubts it deserves to be shunned from polite society and clicked off of social media
00:07:48.820 platforms and so on, that in that case, it should be really easy for someone to hold, who holds that
00:07:54.280 view, who holds the pro transgender view. It should be really easy for them to answer some basic
00:07:59.620 questions about it. Right. Um, so this is the, uh, the tweet that I sent last night. I said, uh,
00:08:10.600 I invite anyone on Twitter to explain in clear and specific detail how precisely a biological male
00:08:17.840 can come to know that he is really a woman. How does he arrive at this conclusion? On what basis?
00:08:24.940 With what evidence to support it? Again, I invite anyone to explain. Thank you. Now, this really is
00:08:30.920 the fundamental question, isn't it? You have biological men who at some point come to realize,
00:08:37.600 realize that, um, or, or, or know or understand or whatever that, that they are really women. Okay.
00:08:45.540 So how does that work exactly? I would think that this question should be really easy to answer. If
00:08:53.340 you believe that transgenderism is an actual thing, like it's really possible for a man to,
00:08:59.420 uh, to, in some sense, be a woman, um, and to come to that realization, then,
00:09:04.320 then I would think it'd be, it'd be really easy to explain, shouldn't it? And if in fact,
00:09:10.140 this point of view is not anti-science, then again, you should be able to explain it scientifically.
00:09:17.360 Yet I pose this question. It's a fair question, not a trick question. And hours went by without
00:09:26.440 anyone even trying to answer it. Instead, you had liberals just telling me that I was a bigot for
00:09:32.380 even asking the question to begin with. But finally, some people did attempt something like
00:09:36.940 an answer. And I want to go through some of the answers to, um, to my question now so that we can,
00:09:43.820 you know, I mean, look, don't take my word for it. Um, I think it seems to me
00:09:49.760 that the leftist position on transgenderism is, is nonsensical and inexplicable. Uh, they can't
00:10:00.480 explain it. It's just a, it's a faith-based view. But as I said, don't take my word for it. Let's,
00:10:07.800 let's take a look at their answers and you tell me if these answers make sense. Um, so we'll go
00:10:13.460 through a few of them here. Laura said, I invite you to provide scientific evidence to prove the
00:10:19.740 existence of God. Other than the Bible, how do you know God exists? Well, that's not an answer,
00:10:25.360 obviously. That, that just avoids the question entirely. Um, and actually, ironically, it proves
00:10:30.340 my point. Uh, this, this person seems to be admitting that transgenderism is an item of faith,
00:10:35.760 not a scientifically observable fact. Also for the record, I can provide scientific evidence for God
00:10:41.940 that has nothing to do with the Bible. Um, the formation of life from inanimate matter,
00:10:46.280 the existence of consciousness, the first cause, et cetera. All of these are legitimate scientific
00:10:50.840 evidences for God. Um, and, and, uh, there are none quite so compelling for transgenderism.
00:10:59.340 Susan says, why do you care? I don't understand it, but I respect people and respect the decisions
00:11:03.820 they make about their own lives and bodies. That's all you have to do. Again, that's not an answer.
00:11:07.720 I'm not, and I'm not the one insisting that people care. You know, when, um, when Twitter
00:11:14.680 says that, uh, you, you know, you're, you're not allowed to simply say that men are men and
00:11:22.320 women are women. Well, then that's Twitter insisting that we care about this, about the transgenderism
00:11:33.360 thing. They're the ones insisting on it. And this has been, this is one of the tried and true tactics
00:11:41.080 of the left that has been for decades where they take something like transgenderism, they shove it in
00:11:50.400 your face 24 seven. Um, they insist that you adopt their perspective on it. They insist that your
00:11:59.280 children adopt their perspective on it. They insist that laws be changed according to their perspective
00:12:04.960 on it. And then when you resist, or when you even ask a question about it, when you even say,
00:12:11.000 Hey, wait a second, why should we even when you even so much as do that, they'll say, well, why do
00:12:15.060 you care so much? It's none of your business. Why do you care? I care because you demand that I care.
00:12:22.980 So you're getting what you want here. Um, let's see, what other answers do we have?
00:12:32.220 Someone who goes by, uh, the Twitter handle resistor said, um, if someone finds that they
00:12:40.000 naturally think, feel, act, and perceive the world in a certain way, that's what makes a person who they
00:12:46.600 are. There is no deeper what you really are that determines gender. That's it. Okay.
00:12:52.980 Now we get to something that approximates, um, or attempts an answer, but it's not a good answer. Um,
00:13:02.200 here we are told that a biological man might think, feel, act, and perceive like a woman and therefore be a
00:13:15.420 woman. Okay. But how could a biological man
00:13:22.500 know that what he's thinking and feeling is, how could he know that he's thinking and feeling like
00:13:31.380 a woman? How could he know what that even means? Because he isn't one. So it's circular. Okay.
00:13:38.640 So I ask you, how does he know he's a woman? And you say, well, because he feels like one.
00:13:44.240 And I say, well, how does he know that he feels like one? And you say, because he is one. Well,
00:13:49.940 how does he know that he is one? Because he feels like one. And on and on and on into infinity.
00:13:54.840 The fact is a man cannot feel like a woman because he isn't a woman. He has no frame of reference.
00:14:02.960 A man has no possible way of knowing that his feelings are the feelings of a woman. There is
00:14:13.820 no way to know that because a feeling is an, is an interior, um, emotional private thing that happens
00:14:23.700 within a person. And so you cannot, you just, you just couldn't possibly know it. And besides,
00:14:31.780 what does it even mean to feel like a woman? What is a female thought? What is a female feeling?
00:14:42.180 Um, now I, of course I'm not a woman again, so I, but, but I think it's, I, I assume I,
00:14:49.580 it stands to reason that women being people, you know, are, are similar to me. And so I know for,
00:14:59.980 for, in the sense that for me, I have many different feelings, many different thoughts,
00:15:05.800 um, a whole wide range of feelings and thoughts. And I believe women are the same way, right?
00:15:14.560 But so how can you seize on any one particular feeling or thought and say, well, that's how a
00:15:22.220 woman feels and thinks a woman feels and thinks a million different things because she's a person.
00:15:29.320 So it doesn't even make any sense. All right. So that's not a good answer. That's a bad answer.
00:15:34.440 Um, another answer says, I am FTM female to male. So I can answer how a biological female can think
00:15:42.640 they're a boy. According to my mom at age four, I said, things would be, things would make so much
00:15:47.980 more sense if I could be a boy at age 13. When she gave the talk, I asked her when my body would
00:15:55.340 start producing semen. My parents are very conservative Christians. It has nothing to do
00:15:59.640 with how I was raised. They did not encourage it. I didn't transition until I was 22. I honestly think
00:16:05.260 it's a brain and body mismatch that we're born with. That's just me though. Okay. Well, here we have
00:16:11.200 the same sort of problem. Um, a four-year-old girl says that it makes more sense if she were a boy,
00:16:17.520 but what does a four-year-old girl know about being a boy? You know, that is one of the,
00:16:24.080 one of the great many problems with, um, these parents who say, well, I, you know, I knew that my,
00:16:30.540 my son was really a girl from the age of three because he was saying that he was a girl.
00:16:35.580 Well, a three-year-old or a four-year-old has no idea what those words mean. Okay. A four-year-old
00:16:44.860 girl has no concept of what a boy is except for the most, um, sort of innocent and, and, and shallow
00:16:55.580 kind of perception of it. And so, and I'll tell you a four-year-old girl, when she thinks of what
00:17:05.200 is a boy, uh, the first thing she's thinking of is, okay, well, boys like to play with toy trains
00:17:12.360 and boys like to go run around and roll around in the mud. Um, boys like to play football. You know,
00:17:18.920 that's what a, that's what a child is thinking. When a, when a, when a child, when a young girl
00:17:25.760 thinks of what constitutes a boy, that's what she means. So when a four-year-old girl says,
00:17:32.000 I wish I were a boy, what she means is I'd like to play with toy trains and I'd like to go play
00:17:38.340 catch outside. That's what she means. So, okay, get her the toy trains, let her go play catch,
00:17:44.780 let her go roll around in the mud. So what? That's perfectly fine. She's a child.
00:17:49.700 It cannot have any deeper meaning because she, as a child does not have a deeper understanding of
00:17:56.700 what it means to be a boy or a girl. By the way, a four-year-old girl has, has very little concept
00:18:02.720 of herself, let alone of anyone else. She's a child. Four years ago, she didn't exist. She's only four
00:18:12.580 years into existence. She's, she's, she's very new to it. She doesn't have a concept of it.
00:18:21.580 Um, as for the question at age 13, this again, just shows confusion. So you have a 13 year old
00:18:29.620 girl saying, when do I produce semen? Well, this is a, a girl who's confused. She doesn't understand
00:18:37.760 what a girl is. She doesn't, she doesn't even understand what a girl is. She doesn't know who
00:18:43.940 she is as a girl. How could she make the choice? How could she reject, um, being a girl and come to
00:18:52.620 the conclusion that she's not one when she clearly doesn't even know what one is?
00:18:57.200 It seems that, um, a lot of parents these days, they, they make the mistake of confusing confusion
00:19:08.700 with knowledge. So they find that their child is confused about certain biological, basic biological
00:19:17.500 facts. And they interpret that as, oh, well, my child must know something. My child must have some
00:19:24.700 deeper insight that I'm just not privy to. No, they don't. Your kid is just confused. That's all your
00:19:33.920 child needs clarification. Your child needs help. Um, another answer, ironically, the Twitter handle is
00:19:45.360 biased towards reality. And they said, if you want to know you'd ask an expert in the field, not Twitter,
00:19:53.500 but gender is a spectrum of preferences, not a thing between your legs. Some humans with penises
00:20:00.080 diverge so far from what we call male preferences that they identify more with what we refer to as
00:20:07.720 female. Okay. Well, but according to this, a transgender woman in that case is simply a man
00:20:20.160 who prefers certain things that society typically associates with women. Fine. But in that case,
00:20:28.360 a transgender woman is in no sense whatsoever, a woman. He's simply a less masculine man.
00:20:37.460 That's all. If that's what you're telling me is, okay, well, this is just, it's a man who,
00:20:42.900 who prefers things that society associates with women. Oh, well, fine. Okay. Then that is a feminine
00:20:48.180 man. But in that case, to call him a woman, to change the pronouns and all of that, that makes no
00:20:57.660 sense whatsoever. Also, by the way, you're only reinforcing gender roles here because for the last
00:21:08.280 50 years, we've been told that preferences and tastes and opinions and, and all of that, we've
00:21:17.140 been told that none of that has anything to do with gender. We've been told that there is no such
00:21:23.040 thing as a female taste or a female opinion. Um, that, uh, just because you're a woman doesn't mean
00:21:29.520 that you should wear dresses. It doesn't mean that you should prefer any particular color or hobby
00:21:34.180 or anything. That's what we've been told. That was the whole idea here. I thought the whole idea
00:21:41.440 was to, was to basically abolish the, the, this, um, notion of gender. They say that gender is a social
00:21:49.100 construct and it basically, it, it tells us what society associates with men and women. And so for the
00:21:56.220 last 50 years, what liberals have been saying is, well, let's get rid of gender. You know, men can do
00:22:01.080 whatever they want. Women can do whatever they want, but now they have abandoned that position
00:22:07.160 and they have gone way to the other end of the, of the, uh, of the argument.
00:22:14.340 And now they're saying that, um, that, that in fact, not only do female preferences and female
00:22:22.560 opinions and tastes exist, but, um, they are so ingrained that if a man has a female taste or
00:22:31.780 opinion or preference, then he must actually be a woman. So do you see how the liberals have gone
00:22:37.660 from, they've gone from, um, deconstructing the gender paradigm to actually reinforcing it and, and, and,
00:22:48.120 and reinforcing it in a way that is far stricter, um, than how it was before? Because, you know,
00:22:57.180 a hundred years ago, you would have more feminine men and more masculine women that existed a hundred
00:23:07.300 years ago. Now, maybe they were frowned upon by society or whatever, but, but they still existed.
00:23:13.260 Now, what we're saying is they can't exist. That if you're a feminine man, then actually you're a
00:23:19.840 woman because femininity is so tied to womanhood that if you experience it as a man, then you become
00:23:27.500 a woman and vice versa. So we see here that, um, transgenderism is an indefensible proposition.
00:23:40.380 It is an indefensible, self-contradicting proposition. It is a, it is a belief that
00:23:49.440 cannot be explained. I mean, these were the attempts to explain it. And as you can tell,
00:23:55.080 they're just, they fail. They fail in really obvious, clear ways.
00:24:02.920 So it's just a matter of faith. That's all. It's a, it is a, it is a faith-based religious conviction.
00:24:10.380 Where somebody believes with no scientific reason whatsoever. They just believe based on their own
00:24:17.060 opinions and their own, um, religious convictions that a man can really be a woman or a woman can
00:24:24.360 really be a man. And all I'm saying is, look, you're, you're entitled to your religious beliefs.
00:24:30.360 You're entitled to your faith-based beliefs. I'd be the first one to say that, but at least admit
00:24:34.940 that that's what they are. That's all I'm saying. All right. One other thing I wanted to, uh, to touch
00:24:41.340 on here, and this is a huge surprise. Uh, last week I gave an opinion that people didn't like.
00:24:48.600 I know that you'll have to collect yourself and recuperate after hearing the shocking news there,
00:24:53.840 but yeah, people didn't like something that I said. I said on my show and on Twitter that
00:24:58.580 I don't agree with the whole concept of uncontacted tribes. And the reason why this came up is because
00:25:06.000 of a, of a story, um, last week where a missionary tried to make contact with a tribe on an island off
00:25:14.480 the coast of, uh, I think India. And, and they were, and he was brutally murdered, uh, by them in the
00:25:19.620 process. He was simply trying to make contact with them. Um, and this tribe, like several other
00:25:24.940 tribes around the globe has, has, has, has essentially been placed in a protective cocoon
00:25:29.900 by its government. They're, they're living a thousand years in the past and nobody is allowed
00:25:36.040 to go there and sort of ruin the illusion. Um, nobody's allowed to go and even speak to them.
00:25:43.340 Now, my point is that this system is lunacy. We are, we are basically preserving people like
00:25:52.540 museum exhibits or like zoo animals. And I think it's dehumanizing and it's ridiculous.
00:25:59.620 Um, a lot of people disagreed with my point apparently. And, and over the weekend,
00:26:04.260 hundreds of people were expressing their outrage at me online. Uh, I wasn't online at all over the
00:26:09.860 weekend because it was a holiday. So I didn't see any of this. And I only, I only became aware of the
00:26:15.880 reaction last night when I got a few emails from some other websites and media outlets asking me about
00:26:22.420 the backlash and what my reaction is to it. I didn't even know there was a backlash, which by the way,
00:26:27.960 is a, is a nice lesson for all of us because all I had to do was just not pick up my phone.
00:26:34.640 And it was as if the outrage wasn't happening. It didn't matter. It doesn't matter.
00:26:41.640 All you have to do is, is not go online and you become like an uncontacted tribe of one
00:26:48.500 impervious to the pitchfork mob. That's why the, you know, these, these online pitchfork mobs,
00:26:55.720 they don't matter. All you have to do is just put this thing down and they're not there. You just
00:27:02.760 live your life. Who cares? And that's kind of a wonderful thing that you could have hundreds of
00:27:08.180 people, uh, furiously writing emails and, uh, and, uh, uh, tweeting you and I'm so angry and it just
00:27:17.060 doesn't, I don't care. It doesn't matter. It's just, it's, it's all just contained in this thing.
00:27:21.060 It doesn't matter at all. But since I'm, since I'm back now, I thought I'd elaborate on my point
00:27:27.080 and try to make it more clear. Um, and my points was not that these tribes should be forcibly
00:27:38.320 assimilated. Um, it wasn't that we should go and steal their land. Uh, my point wasn't that we should
00:27:45.100 enslave them or exploit them or abuse them in any way at all. My point was not any of those. I could
00:27:51.440 go on for literally a million years listing all of the points I didn't make because I didn't make
00:27:58.300 all of the potential points in the world. I did not. I only made one point. There are trillions
00:28:03.100 of points I did not make. I only made one. Um, I simply questioned the idea that it should be
00:28:11.580 illegal to go and speak to a group of people. Okay. I questioned the invisible force field that's
00:28:20.820 placed around these tribes so that they won't even be aware of the outside world. And yeah,
00:28:26.680 perhaps a few of the tribe members are somewhat sort of aware, but most of the children raised inside the
00:28:34.640 force field will not be aware of the outside world. They won't even know that it exists.
00:28:39.820 They are being consigned to this primitive existence and are not being given the choice
00:28:45.840 of leaving and living like the rest of us. Of course, they aren't given a choice. That's the
00:28:50.820 whole point to give them a real choice between living like that or living differently. They'd have
00:28:56.540 to actually be significantly exposed to the realities of the outside world. Like all the rest of us are,
00:29:02.740 but they aren't. So they're not given a choice. You have generations that are raised in this bubble
00:29:10.340 that the government has created and enforced. And they, they're just, they have no option. They're
00:29:17.280 just, it's just there. That's just how they're going to live. They don't have a choice.
00:29:20.820 I think that's crazy. I think it's wrong. And, um, it may sound really wonderful to you,
00:29:28.900 but tell me, is it wonderful to die when you're 25 because your teeth are rotting out of your head
00:29:33.880 and the infection has spread to your lungs and now it's killing you? Is it, is it, is it wonderful to
00:29:39.480 die of diseases that, that we could cure with antibiotics in three days? Is it wonderful to live
00:29:45.500 without refrigeration? Is it wonderful to, to be unaware of the existence of germs? Is it wonderful
00:29:51.940 to get horribly sick because you don't know you're supposed to wash your hands after you use the
00:29:56.840 bathroom? Um, the people have a right to live that way if they want to, but they should know that there
00:30:08.420 is another option with these things and children should know there are, um, I mean, just that last
00:30:19.780 thing alone about, about germs, like that alone is, is enough reason I think to, to, um, do away with
00:30:28.560 this ridiculous idea of, of uncontacted trust. I mean, these are people that they don't know about germs.
00:30:34.540 Do you have any idea? Do you have any idea what it's like to live, not knowing that germs exist?
00:30:41.460 Do you have any idea how many people die horribly and young simply because they don't know they're
00:30:50.560 supposed to wash their hands and the government sets this cocoon? Nobody's allowed to go tell them.
00:30:56.740 You're not allowed to go tell them, Hey, by the way, look, live how you want, but just germs exist.
00:31:01.680 There are these, you know, these little tiny microscopic things that make you sick. Just
00:31:05.740 wash your hands. You're not allowed to go tell them that you can't tell them. And so they're just
00:31:09.200 going to keep dying. Um, I, there are a lot of objectively good things in modern society
00:31:19.040 that because of this force field, these kids that live in these tribes, um, as they grow into adults,
00:31:26.500 will never get a chance to benefit from. And I think that that is wrong. Now,
00:31:32.340 if you still disagree, uh, perhaps I can make my point by way of analogy. Let's think about the Amish.
00:31:42.680 Okay. The Amish choose, and they really do choose to mostly reject modern society and to live in a,
00:31:52.360 in a unique way, a way that's unique in 2018, but would not have been unique in 18, 18, which is
00:31:57.780 the point. And that's fine. They want to live that way. I, I, I totally respect it,
00:32:03.480 completely respect. And it really is a choice because the Amish know that, uh, that, uh,
00:32:09.340 that the rest of the world is out there. And the point is they reject modern society,
00:32:14.840 but they know what they're rejecting so they can make an informed choice.
00:32:23.860 But let's imagine something for a moment. Let's say that the Amish decided that they're losing way
00:32:31.060 too many people, um, that with the way that they live, their kids are still very much exposed to
00:32:35.860 the outside world. They're aware of it. And so many of them, as they get older, decide to leave and
00:32:40.960 live in a more modern way. So let's say the Amish decide that they want to solve that problem.
00:32:45.900 So they want to be uncontacted and they have their plot of land in rural Pennsylvania,
00:32:50.460 and it is their land after all. And, and they want to be uncontacted. You aren't allowed to go talk to
00:32:56.860 them. You're not allowed to make any kind of contact with them whatsoever. And if you do,
00:33:00.640 they might literally kill you. And let's say the U S government goes along with this
00:33:06.760 and they declare that the Amish are now an uncontacted tribe, meaning it would be illegal
00:33:12.840 for you to go and make any sort of contact with them whatsoever. And again, they're doing this so
00:33:20.680 that their ancient way of living can be preserved without the slightest possibility of any outside
00:33:26.600 influence and without giving the next generation a chance to choose between living that way or living
00:33:32.220 some other way. Would you be in favor of that? Would you be in favor of a designation of the
00:33:37.740 Amish as an uncontacted tribe where it is now illegal to speak to them? Would you think that such a system
00:33:46.840 is fair or humane or rational? Or would you say that the Amish should not be placed in a cocoon where
00:33:57.400 modern civilization is artificially withheld? Would you say that such a system is crazy because it
00:34:04.400 exempts the Amish from the realities of living in a human civilization and it exempts them in a way
00:34:10.620 that none of the rest of us are exempt? I can't declare myself uncontacted where like you're not
00:34:16.800 even allowed to knock on my door. And would you say that it's unfair to their children because it makes
00:34:25.700 it impossible for the next generation to make an informed choice about how they want to live?
00:34:30.840 I think we all know. We all know what we would say in the case of the Amish.
00:34:36.080 Well, why would an uncontacted tribe in a jungle be any different? It's the same idea. And it's wrong
00:34:43.840 for the same reasons. Again, I'm not saying they can't choose that. Anyone can choose to live however
00:34:51.380 they want. But what I am raising an issue with is the imaginary force field that's put around them by
00:35:03.140 the government, where they are not even allowed to be introduced to the realities of modern society.
00:35:10.440 Even the really positive, good, life-affirming, life-preserving realities like medicine and
00:35:18.860 refrigeration and hygiene. Like they're not even allowed to know about any of that.
00:35:26.160 Now, there are those who say that it's, you know, doing the whole uncontacted thing, it's totally worth
00:35:32.920 it. Even if it means that their children are going to die young and that they're going to suffer
00:35:37.640 miseries that are totally unnecessary. It's totally worth it though, because it preserves their culture.
00:35:44.800 And it would be a great shame if their culture was destroyed by exposure to the outside world.
00:35:51.860 Well, why though? Why do we need to preserve a tribal culture that has held itself in isolation and
00:36:02.060 exactly as it's always been since the year 25 BC? I mean, why does that need to be preserved?
00:36:09.900 Why would it be a great tragedy if that tribe were to, in some senses, modernize and start to take
00:36:17.840 advantage of some of these great things that I mentioned that we have in my, why would that be,
00:36:22.420 what would be so terrible about that? Like, is it, would it somehow, is it, does it somehow detract
00:36:28.940 from, from the, the great diversity of, of planet earth if, if this tribe were to, you know, have
00:36:39.900 electricity and have telephones? Like, what's wrong with that? And would anyone say that European or
00:36:49.900 American culture of 1810 or, you know, 1790 should be preserved exactly intact as it's always, as it was
00:36:58.880 back then? Does anyone bemoan the fact that our own culture has developed so much over the last 300
00:37:07.320 years? No. In fact, most people would say that it's good that our old ancient culture is gone and has
00:37:15.480 changed because, because that culture included the dehumanization of black people and the subjugation
00:37:20.860 of women. And so again, in any other case, with any other group, we do not mourn the fact that cultures
00:37:29.600 change over time and over the centuries. We consider it good. We consider it a necessity. But in this case,
00:37:37.300 with these tribes, we say, no, it must remain exactly as it's always been for the last 3,000 years.
00:37:42.760 And if it grows or matures or changes or develops at all, that is some great tragedy.
00:37:50.800 Why? It doesn't make, I mean, just when you really stop and think about it, that simply doesn't make
00:37:58.100 any sense at all. It really doesn't. Oh no. Well, if this tribe learns about washing their hands,
00:38:05.100 that's a tragedy. We can't, we can't allow that. Do you realize how you're treating them? Again,
00:38:10.280 you're treating them like zoo. You're treating them like a, like a, an exhibit. You're not treating
00:38:15.740 them like human beings. You're not. Um, because if it were any other human in any other situation,
00:38:25.040 and they were living this really tough, short, painful existence, because they didn't know about
00:38:35.520 some of these basic realities of modern, you would tell them about it. If it were anyone,
00:38:39.980 if it were your neighbor who somehow had been living in a cave or something and didn't know
00:38:44.060 about that, you'd tell them about it. Wouldn't you? Um, finally, uh, one thing that, you know,
00:38:50.740 people's, uh, one thing people said when they were challenging my view is that, um, I seem to be
00:38:54.760 implying that modern, that our culture, modern culture, Western culture is superior to that of
00:39:01.640 these primitive tribes. And, uh, I was told that, you know, that's a, that's a terrible,
00:39:06.600 terrible thing to say. Well, yeah, guilty as charged. Um, our culture is of course, superior.
00:39:14.440 Now that doesn't mean that we are superior as individuals. It doesn't mean that they're less
00:39:20.080 human. Um, it doesn't mean that they should be killed or enslaved or deprived of their land or
00:39:25.620 anything like that. It just, it just means that our culture is obviously better than theirs. I mean,
00:39:31.120 all cultures are not equal. It is possible to have cultures that are not as good as other cultures.
00:39:38.980 Our culture is more advanced technologically, philosophically, politically, um, and in every
00:39:46.160 quantifiable way. So yes, it's a, it is better. It has contributed more to the world. It has
00:39:52.420 accomplished greater things, so on and so on and so on. The fact that I even have to explain this
00:39:59.800 and defend it just shows that most, most of what makes our culture better has nothing to do with
00:40:05.860 us individually. So understand that when I say this, this is not an egotistical or arrogant thing.
00:40:11.220 I don't get any of the credit for the fact that our culture is better than some of these other
00:40:15.740 cultures. Uh, you don't get any credit for that. Um, we are actually in the process of squandering
00:40:21.920 all of these superior aspects of our culture. They were given to us by those who came before us.
00:40:29.340 Um, we have, we have added, uh, you know, a few positive, uh, innovations, I suppose,
00:40:37.340 but we didn't come up with any of the basics. And now a lot of it is slipping away because we're too
00:40:43.720 stupid and befuddled to actually cherish and protect the great civilization that was handed to us. So
00:40:49.460 this is not about we as individuals are better or anything like that. Um, and, and as I said,
00:40:55.280 I am a huge critic of modern society and modern people, myself included, we have a lot of flaws,
00:41:01.540 but there are also a lot of things, again, many of those things that were given already that were
00:41:07.680 handed to us, given to us. Um, there are a lot of things that just, that just make our culture
00:41:14.960 better, a better place to live and just better across the board. And that's why it's a good thing
00:41:22.480 to share those things with other people, not forcibly, not at the point of a gun, but just to
00:41:28.760 share them. That's all. And I don't think that anyone should be, uh, should be kept in a bubble so
00:41:35.660 that these things can, you know, are not shared with them. I don't think that's fair to them and to
00:41:41.600 their kids. So that's my case. Um, and again, I'll just say, if you disagree with me, just,
00:41:48.460 just to be clear, what you're saying is that, um, it is worth all of, you know, it, it's, it,
00:41:56.720 essentially what you're saying is, yes, these tribes are uncontacted. They're not told about
00:42:00.480 the outside world. Yes. That means that they're going to die in these horrible ways where they,
00:42:04.800 in ways that they do not need to, and they're going to suffer in ways that they do not need to,
00:42:09.980 but all of that is worth it. You're saying that is all worth it because of whatever benefits exist
00:42:15.580 in not contacting them. I just, I find that opinion to be really extreme and radical and
00:42:21.680 bizarre, frankly. And I, and I disagree with it. All right. Um, we'll leave it there. Thanks for
00:42:27.920 watching everybody. Thanks for listening. Godspeed.