The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1493 - A Father’s Tragic Fight to Save His Son from Gender Ideology

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, a father has been struggling for years to protect his son from

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00:02:01.600 Over the years at various points, I've talked about the very long running case involving Jeff

00:02:05.980 Younger, his ex-wife, Ann Georgilis, and their twin sons. A custody battle that has unfolded for

00:02:11.400 the better part of a decade concerning whether or not one of those twins, James, who's now 12 years

00:02:16.200 old, should be allowed to quote unquote transition into a girl. Now the boy's mother thinks that's a 0.72

00:02:22.240 good idea and she's been pushing for it for quite some time. The boy's father has been fighting to

00:02:26.240 prevent it from happening. Now already based on these facts alone, this should have been the single

00:02:31.600 custody battle in the history of the American legal system. When one parent looks at a boy and

00:02:36.020 says, that's really a girl, then case closed. That parent should not be allowed anywhere near 0.99

00:02:41.200 her child or any other child for that matter. The parent who has a basic grasp of reality is

00:02:47.040 clearly more fit and more capable than the parent who doesn't. Pretty simple. But that's not how Jeff

00:02:53.220 Younger's case has played out, unfortunately. Instead, in both Texas and California, there have been years

00:02:58.120 of legal battles over custody. And last week, these legal battles came to a tragic but predictable

00:03:03.960 conclusion with a California court awarding full custody to Ann. And she'll now be free to raise her

00:03:09.520 boy as though he's a girl, including by chemically castrating him if she chooses to do so. So those 0.80

00:03:15.720 are the basic outlines of the case, which are about as disturbing as you can imagine. But as you look

00:03:20.960 into the details, somehow it gets even worse. This is a legal battle that makes it very clear that

00:03:26.780 Democrats and trans activists don't simply aspire to take children away from their parents.

00:03:32.240 This dispute reveals that in our legal system, they can already do it. And they can do it pretty

00:03:37.340 easily, as it turns out. Before I get to all those arguments, let's start at the beginning and just

00:03:42.620 kind of review some of the basic facts here, if you haven't followed this story over the years.

00:03:47.200 Jeff Younger married Ann in 2010. Both were members of the Orthodox Church. And almost immediately,

00:03:53.240 there was a problem. Younger explained what happened in a recent interview with Tim Poole.

00:03:57.700 At the end of this clip, he mentions a video involving his son, James. And we'll play that

00:04:01.860 one for you too. Watch.

00:04:04.800 Starting about two years old, my ex-wife decided to transition my son to a girl. We were still

00:04:10.180 married at the time. And I told her she couldn't do that. She's a pediatrician. And she forced me out

00:04:16.640 of my house, filed for divorce, and then began to really in earnest try to transition my son. She began to

00:04:21.860 present him to the world as a girl. She changed his name without my consent, with no legal basis 0.72

00:04:28.720 to do that. My son eventually, at three years old, we're still heading towards divorce, tells

00:04:34.740 me that mommy says I'm a girl. So I took the first iPhone video I'd ever taken. And if you

00:04:40.880 go on YouTube, you can find it. Just search for mommy says I'm a girl. It went everywhere.

00:04:43.940 You're a boy, right? No. I'm a girl. Who told you you were a girl? Mommy. When did she tell

00:04:52.280 you you were a girl? Because I love girls. Oh, I see. So mommy told you you were a girl?

00:04:58.320 Uh-huh. Does mommy do anything else like with a girl with you? Uh-huh. Like what?

00:05:06.880 Like she says. What does she do? She puts them on me.

00:05:12.980 She puts dresses on you? Oh, wow. 0.99

00:05:17.440 Okay, so infuriating, horrifying, to this very young child, he says, well, I'm a girl because I

00:05:23.940 love girls, meaning he thinks girls are, you know, he thinks girls are nice. He likes girls.

00:05:32.040 And so in his mind, at the age of three, he can't distinguish between, oh, I think these are nice

00:05:39.980 people. Um, I like being around these people. I like my mom. I like being around her. And he

00:05:46.040 can't distinguish between that and I am that thing because he's three. And it seems that his

00:05:51.720 mother, uh, exploited that three-year-old confusion to send him down this path. So this is a process

00:05:57.040 that, according to Jeff, began when his son was just two years old. And he says it involved a lot

00:06:01.560 of heavy-handed pressure from his wife as well as some very deranged interpretations of his son's

00:06:05.800 behavior. For example, according to Younger, his wife would tell his son that if he wanted to stay

00:06:11.220 out of trouble, he wouldn't act like a boy. Not exactly subtle. Also, at some point, James apparently

00:06:17.760 picked out a silver purse at Target that had a multicolored unicorn on it. The fact that a little

00:06:22.780 kid thought a shiny thing with a flying horse on it is cool apparently means he's a girl.

00:06:27.300 He also selected a girl's toy in a McDonald's Happy Meal. That was it. That was the evidence

00:06:34.420 that apparently led Younger's wife to conclude that their son was really a girl.

00:06:39.080 Now, by the time his son was three years old, Jeff could tell that this would be a case of

00:06:43.320 he said, she said. So to protect himself and his son, he eventually shot that video on his iPhone

00:06:47.400 that we just saw. And as you saw, it shows his son saying very clearly that his alleged gender

00:06:51.960 identity, quote unquote, was influenced in some way by his mother. The child says his mother told

00:06:58.360 him that he's a girl. Now, Younger has also said that his wife tried to enroll their son in a gender

00:07:03.480 clinic in Dallas at the age of five. He stated last year that, quote, pediatrician records show that

00:07:09.420 she intended to chemically castrate him at age eight or nine. Eventually, litigation began in Dallas

00:07:15.300 as James's school began facilitating his supposed transition. His mother demanded that his father

00:07:21.480 affirm his so-called gender identity. And in 2019, the court in Dallas made a number of findings

00:07:26.820 that are very alarming, to say the least. For example, the court determined that, quote,

00:07:31.060 the mother changed James's name to Luna on her own volition. The court finds that the mother asked

00:07:36.020 the child if he still wanted to be called James. The court finds that James did not initiate the

00:07:40.320 conversation about having his name changed. Of course, even if James had initiated a conversation

00:07:45.760 about changing his name, it wouldn't mean anything. It doesn't mean that you actually do it.

00:07:49.460 Children will initiate a lot of conversations. They don't demand the immediate affirmation of

00:07:53.800 their parents or any kind of affirmation whatsoever. My five-year-old recently initiated

00:07:58.380 a conversation about having candy for breakfast. Conversation didn't last very long. The answer was

00:08:02.980 no, and that was that. Yet in this case, the court found that James didn't even bring up the idea of

00:08:07.620 changing his name. Obviously, that's an idea that was presented to him, that was forced on him.

00:08:13.760 There's a lot of very disturbing information in this court ruling, too. Keep in mind, as you hear this,

00:08:17.680 we're talking about a boy who's seven years old at the time of this ruling. So reading on, quote,

00:08:22.880 the court finds Dr. Albertan, a psychologist and expert witness, stated when the boys were brought

00:08:29.000 by their mother for a joint interview, James presented wearing high heels and a dress, and he

00:08:34.300 was a little overdressed. Your typical girl might be wearing leggings and sandals, but he seemed to be 0.98

00:08:39.040 pretty dramatic in his dress. The doctor experienced the same thing when he went to the house.

00:08:43.200 So this is a, I keep in mind, an actual seven-year-old girl wearing high heels,

00:08:51.720 unless it's like her mom's high heels that she's wearing as a joke around the house, 0.97

00:08:55.180 but actually like wearing them as an outfit, even that is ridiculous. 0.92

00:09:01.800 And no seven-year-old girl dresses that way. But this is how the boy is dressed.

00:09:07.760 And this is a phenomenon that we see all the time with adults who identify as transgender.

00:09:14.020 This is what the adults, you know, the men, they're preoccupied with appearing as women.

00:09:19.540 And so they try to match every conceivable feminine stereotype that comes to mind all at the same

00:09:24.540 time. These are the same people who supposedly reject the idea of a gender binary, but then you'll

00:09:29.040 find them with overdone eyelashes, tons of makeup, tacky dresses, you know, a framed poster of legally 0.99

00:09:35.880 blonde on their wall or whatever, all because they're desperate to conform to their cartoonish

00:09:40.860 perception of womanhood. And in this case, that was happening to James, except clearly James wasn't

00:09:46.540 responsible for it. It wasn't something that he was doing, but rather something that was being done

00:09:49.800 to him. And there's evidence in the court ruling that James's mother wasn't just interested in making

00:09:55.580 his child, quote, look like a girl. There are indications that his mother also wanted to

00:09:59.560 chemically castrate him as well, or at least that she was open to the idea. Quote,

00:10:03.400 the court finds that when the mother was asked with regards to puberty blockers,

00:10:07.100 it is a very big deal. It's a very significant decision for parents and families to make.

00:10:12.960 Question, shouldn't sterilization only be done if it's to save a patient's life? Answer, no.

00:10:18.580 In other words, it's fine to sterilize children in order to affirm whatever they say their gender is. 0.93

00:10:23.900 The result of this Dallas case from 2019 was that joint custody was awarded. Both parents had to agree

00:10:29.740 before any medical decisions were made involving their son, including any alleged gender transition.

00:10:36.020 And even that ruling was far too favorable to the mother because she should have lost custody

00:10:40.020 of her children completely. Instead, it was joint custody. In her ruling, the judge faulted the mother 0.80

00:10:45.860 for pushing too hard to complete this transition. And she faulted Jeff for going public with the dispute

00:10:51.500 and raising money off of it, even though that seems like a pretty reasonable thing for a father to do

00:10:55.860 under these circumstances. Later on, there was apparently an incident in school in which

00:11:00.180 James told the school counselor that he didn't want to be a girl anymore.

00:11:04.100 And somehow Jeff was blamed for this and he lost custody of his son. Watch.

00:11:09.980 What precipitated me losing my son, all contact with my sons, last year in July,

00:11:17.600 was my son just straight up told his counselor that he doesn't want to be a girl. He's getting

00:11:22.760 embarrassed wearing dresses at school. She didn't even acknowledge that he said it.

00:11:28.800 So he had an Apple Watch and he recorded himself. He said, I'm going to record telling you this.

00:11:33.800 And your son did?

00:11:34.540 Yes. And she totally freaked out, threw him out of the office and initiated a CPS investigation 0.94

00:11:39.740 against me and told the court that I had forced him to say that.

00:11:45.400 So now the son is saying, I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to do this.

00:11:48.720 And instead, the court responds by removing from the situation the one parent who actually cares

00:11:54.800 about him and is listening to him. I mean, it's just depraved at every conceivable level.

00:12:03.240 So he lost all contact with his son because of this incident. And that's what the courts determined

00:12:08.020 would be the just outcome. But even after this ruling, Texas courts still didn't allow

00:12:12.880 Younger's ex-wife to chemically castrate their child. And she agreed in her interactions with the 0.65

00:12:16.960 court that she wouldn't do it. That was the red line. And it was held up throughout these

00:12:22.460 proceedings. But then in September of 2022, Younger's wife fled with her two sons to California,

00:12:28.640 which had just passed a so-called sanctuary state law. It allows parents to take children

00:12:33.300 to California for the purpose of, quote, transitioning them without fearing legal repercussions.

00:12:38.360 In response, Younger immediately went to the Texas Supreme Court requesting an order for the

00:12:42.340 children to be returned to Texas. But the Texas Supreme Court refused, saying that it was mere

00:12:46.300 speculation that Younger's wife would attempt to castrate his children. After all, she had agreed 0.67

00:12:50.660 not to do so. Now, of course, the ruling was ridiculous. There was no speculation here. 0.95

00:12:55.020 Children, California was inviting parents to come there to castrate their kids. And Younger's ex-wife 1.00

00:13:00.820 was accepting the invitation.

00:13:03.220 So then the inevitable happened. The Superior Court judge in California awarded Younger's wife

00:13:10.480 full custody of their children, including the authority to pursue so-called gender-affirming

00:13:15.720 treatments, such as chemical castration. As Jeff wrote in a statement, quote,

00:13:20.860 I lost all parental rights to my sons. Goodbye, boys. Perhaps we'll meet when you're adults. California

00:13:25.420 Judge Juhas gave my ex-wife authority to castrate my son, James. All contact with my boys must be

00:13:32.040 supervised. I won't do that. Let my story be a cautionary one for young men. Fathers have no

00:13:36.820 rights to their children. Do not enter the family law system. Now, the fight isn't actually over.

00:13:42.600 Jeff will keep up the battle in the courts. He's also calling on the incoming Trump administration

00:13:46.920 to do whatever it can to halt these procedures and hospitals nationwide, including in the state

00:13:50.780 of California. Trump has already promised to issue an executive order, quote, instructing every

00:13:55.440 federal agency to cease the promotion of sex or gender transition at any age.

00:13:59.460 change. This is the kind of order that very quickly can lead to the end of so-called trans 0.99

00:14:05.340 medicine. But Congress also needs to take up a federal ban on gender mutilation of children,

00:14:11.120 just flat out. It should be a top priority of the next administration, the next Congress.

00:14:17.740 But for now, this is where things stand legally. Now, in his statement, Younger, of course, as we heard,

00:14:24.160 didn't just discuss the legal and personal ramifications of this case, as serious as they are. He also made a,

00:14:29.460 broader point, calling his case a cautionary tale for young men and told them to, quote,

00:14:34.080 not enter the family law system. In a previous post, Jeff has elaborated on what he means by that.

00:14:39.220 For example, a couple of weeks ago, he wrote, quote,

00:14:41.480 men now refuse to marry. Most are forgoing children. A huge movement is forming of single

00:14:45.520 men using surrogates to have children. It's a rational response to the terrible laws governing

00:14:50.200 marriage and divorce and family courts. My sons have experienced the loss of their father,

00:14:54.620 seen the courts try to destroy their father, observed their father's effective enslavement to the state,

00:14:59.140 watched endless humiliation rituals against their father, and watched their mother orchestrate it

00:15:03.640 all. Tens of millions of young men have observed the same thing in their families. They're not going

00:15:07.560 to marry into a totalitarian system like family court. No amount of theology or argument will 0.91

00:15:12.160 overcome their own experience and observations. No one who's familiar with the details of Jeff

00:15:16.900 Younger's case can deny that he's correct about the family court system. This has been a completely

00:15:21.560 irrational, entirely unjust series of proceedings to the point of cruelty and barbarism.

00:15:29.140 And indeed, what happened here is very much a cautionary tale. But I do think it's important

00:15:35.120 to say one thing, which is that, in my view, the moral of the story here isn't that men should avoid

00:15:44.160 marriage. Because, you know, my take on this, to give up on marriage is to give up on the family,

00:15:49.920 and to give up on the family is to give up on human civilization itself. I mean, that's what you're

00:15:54.340 doing. And we are in a fight for civilization. We can't win the fight with an unconditional

00:16:00.760 surrender, which is what it would mean for us to abandon the family. I mean, you're just giving up

00:16:04.500 on civilization. Can't do that. You can't do that under any circumstance. It's the one thing you cannot

00:16:10.440 do. So the moral of the story, then, is that I think that men must be absolutely sure that they are

00:16:20.760 marrying women whose fundamental values are totally aligned with their own, which may seem like the

00:16:26.840 most obvious thing in the world. But it's apparently not in many cases. And there are a lot of other

00:16:32.980 things that people tend to prioritize when they're picking, you know, a potential spouse. But this is

00:16:39.000 the number one thing. The number one thing is this. There are other things that matter, but this is

00:16:43.560 the number one, absolutely number one thing, that your fundamental values align. And if they don't,

00:16:51.800 no matter what else, it doesn't matter if you like their personality, if you think it's a beautiful

00:16:55.780 woman, if they're fun and great and everything's, doesn't matter. None of that matters if your

00:17:02.440 fundamental values don't align. If they do, you can proceed with a significant amount of confidence.

00:17:13.560 So speaking personally, there is essentially a 0% chance that my wife would ever try to take any

00:17:20.840 of my sons and do this to them. She would rather be dead. She feels just as strongly as I do about

00:17:28.960 the subject. If you're a single man and the woman you're dating is not that solidly opposed to this

00:17:35.200 kind of medical abuse, like so opposed to it that she would rather be dead than see it happen to her son,

00:17:41.620 then you should run in the other direction as fast as you can. And to be clear, that's not a

00:17:46.000 criticism of Jeff Younger in any way. There are very few fathers on this planet who can begin to

00:17:49.340 comprehend what he's experiencing right now and what he's experienced for the past decade, which is

00:17:53.140 why I've followed his case, talked about it so much over the years. We have no real insight into his

00:17:57.900 relationship with his ex-wife and what happened before all this and beyond what we hear from court

00:18:02.400 documents and what he says in interviews. But so this is not about him. This is a general point.

00:18:07.840 I think it's a critical point that this kind of outcome is not inevitable. Now, yes, the goal now

00:18:17.140 is to change the laws and the legal precedents so that nothing like this ever happens again. And

00:18:21.620 there's a very real possibility the Trump administration will accomplish that. They can

00:18:25.320 accomplish it. It's something they can do. So they must. At the same time, young men need to think about

00:18:31.660 what they can do to avoid a situation where they have to rely on the government to protect their

00:18:36.800 parental rights in the first place, because as Jeff Younger points out and has experienced,

00:18:40.340 you can't depend on that. Now, yes, there are cases. There are cases where you might marry someone

00:18:48.100 who then proceeds to turn into a totally different person in a way that was utterly unforeseeable.

00:18:54.440 That can happen. I can't say that it can't happen. Anything can happen. Now, whether that's what

00:18:59.280 happened in Jeff Younger's case, I truly don't know. But in the vast, vast majority of cases,

00:19:04.480 that is not how it works. Okay? Because that's just not how human beings work. That's not human

00:19:10.560 nature. In almost every case where your wife turns out to be a radically self-centered, far-left, 1.00

00:19:17.280 feminist whack job, it's because she was always all of those things, or at least on her way to 1.00

00:19:23.300 becoming those things. In most cases, people do not mutate into monsters out of nowhere.

00:19:30.140 They were always monsters. All you have to do is pay attention and be willing to notice the warning

00:19:35.560 signs. So going back to my own case, is it technically possible that my wife could go insane 1.00

00:19:41.160 and wake up tomorrow or in 10 years as an avid proponent of all of these terrible things?

00:19:46.840 I mean, I can't say it's impossible in the sense that impossible is like adding 2 plus 2 and making

00:19:52.820 10. That's impossible. You just can't do it. A trillion tries, you couldn't do it.

00:20:00.900 So this is not impossible in that sense. It is logically possible. It is technically possible

00:20:06.720 that my wife could go insane in that way, to the exact same degree that it's technically possible 0.57

00:20:12.000 that I could go insane in that way. Maybe I suffer some sort of traumatic brain injury that has

00:20:18.300 that effect. Maybe I fall into a vat of acid, and that's how I become a supervillain who's in favor

00:20:22.920 of child gender transitions and all the rest of it. I mean, it's possible technically. Technically,

00:20:29.120 right? But I'm really not worried about that happening, in my case or hers. A lot of things

00:20:35.420 are technically possible, but you don't change your behavior because of it. It's technically possible

00:20:39.780 that my house could collapse on us tonight and kill everybody inside it while we're sleeping.

00:20:44.440 But that doesn't mean I'm going to force my family to sleep outside. Because in almost every case where

00:20:50.780 a house suddenly collapses, it's because there were structural problems that you could easily notice

00:20:56.160 or should have noticed before disaster struck. And in almost every case where your wife turns out to

00:21:03.040 be a horrible beast, or if you're a young woman, your husband, there were plenty of warning signs.

00:21:09.240 So you've got to pay attention to those and marry someone who aligns with you on the most fundamental

00:21:14.700 issues. And I could start by asking them, like on the first date, about these things.

00:21:23.180 And you don't just ask, but you're also spending time with this person, hopefully, before you get

00:21:26.720 engaged and before you get married. And so you start to see, well, this is what they're saying. This is

00:21:31.220 how they're living. I mean, most of the time, it's not hard to figure this out about someone.

00:21:35.920 A person whose foundational values are in full agreement with your own. That's what you're

00:21:40.940 looking for. And this will give you a very, very, very good chance of avoiding great heartache down

00:21:46.900 the road. Now, none of that is to blame Jeff Younger for anything, certainly. He's been in a

00:21:52.520 valiant battle to save his son. I have immense respect and sympathy for him. My point is just to

00:21:57.840 give a word of advice to any young single people who hear these kinds of stories and feel

00:22:01.760 understandably terrified by them. As Jeff Younger would be the first to tell you,

00:22:06.680 you have to put yourself in a situation where you won't have to rely on the court system or the

00:22:11.380 government. Hopefully, the laws will continue to change in the direction of sanity and protecting

00:22:16.040 children from abuse. But in the meantime, you're on your own. Act accordingly. Now, let's get to our

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00:23:29.220 has this. A forensic pathologist testified on Thursday that Jordan Neely's death was caused by

00:23:34.600 the combined effects of synthetic marijuana that he was using, his schizophrenia, and other factors.

00:23:40.560 Dr. Satish Chandru reviewed Neely's autopsy records and video evidence for Daniel Penny's defense team

00:23:46.240 reported to New York Post and determined that those records didn't show the signs typically associated

00:23:50.680 with chokehold deaths. In your opinion, did Mr. Penny choke Mr. Neely to death? Asked Stephen Razor,

00:23:54.560 one of Penny's defense attorneys. No. Chandru replied, the chokehold did not cause death.

00:23:59.960 Chandru also testified that Neely's death was the result of the combined effects of sickle cell

00:24:03.380 crisis, the schizophrenia, the struggle and restraint, and the synthetic marijuana. He said that someone

00:24:08.580 high on synthetic marijuana with schizophrenia can die while involved in a struggle even without a

00:24:12.740 chokehold being used. Chandru went on to say that even if Neely hadn't had those other health

00:24:18.200 factors, he still would not have died from Penny's chokehold. So this is probably the most significant

00:24:25.500 development in the trial. The trial is now adjourned, by the way, until after Thanksgiving.

00:24:31.080 And they're going to come back and they'll have closing arguments and then the jury will deliberate.

00:24:38.220 And so Daniel Penny gets to spend Thanksgiving wondering whether he's going to go to jail for the

00:24:42.540 next 10 years. You know, and it's just an awful situation. And it's why this trial makes me so

00:24:50.920 angry. Like, I actually, I have to limit the amount of time I spend talking about it. I've talked about

00:24:55.960 it a lot, but I have to limit it because it's, uh, it's so infuriating that I'm always tempted to say

00:25:03.100 things that I shouldn't say publicly. So I have to exercise a lot of restraint. Each new development in

00:25:08.680 this trial makes it even clearer that it already was, but the whole thing is a sham and this trial

00:25:14.020 never should have happened. And now we learned that the chokehold didn't even kill Neely. He died

00:25:19.900 because he was a drugged up psycho, right? That's why I died. He was high, flipping out, threatening 1.00

00:25:26.580 people on the train in the midst of a struggle with someone who had to restrain him because he was

00:25:31.800 threatening to kill people. That's on him. That's on Neely. Nobody is responsible for that,

00:25:37.220 but Jordan Neely. In a sane society, you put the onus a hundred percent on Jordan Neely in a

00:25:43.040 situation like that. If you have to be restrained because of your behavior in public, whatever

00:25:47.740 happens as a result is on you. If you walk into a confined area and you make everybody in that

00:25:55.920 confined space fear for their lives because of the things that you are explicitly threatening

00:26:02.540 them with, whatever happens as a result is on you. That's how it should be. I don't care if

00:26:09.820 they pry the door open and throw you out on the tracks while the, while the train's going 80 miles

00:26:14.160 an hour. In that case, I would say totally your fault. I will not cry one tear for you.

00:26:23.580 And, uh, and in that case, I would say every pastor involved with that is a hero. Let's give them all

00:26:27.000 medals. Well done. So that's how it should be. Um, and the facts here are clear. The fact that Daniel

00:26:35.880 Penny is innocent is clear. Like it's not even close. They should deliberate for 20 seconds and come back

00:26:41.720 with not guilty. That's what should happen. Should happen. I, am I confident that will happen? No,

00:26:48.580 but it should happen because his innocence is indisputable. And there's another thing that's

00:26:53.300 also indisputable. And this is the point I keep coming back to. This is why this trial to me is

00:26:58.140 so significant is that it, it comes down to this for me. And, you know, there had been other high

00:27:05.580 profile trials of innocent men who, uh, you know, were on trial for an act of self-defense or for,

00:27:13.080 um, or for doing their job as police officers. So, you know, we, we've seen other, other, uh,

00:27:18.940 examples of this kind of thing. As I've said a few times, I, to me, this is the, this is the most

00:27:23.360 egregious of all those cases. And one of the reasons is this reason that it presents this,

00:27:32.200 this choice, or rather it represents a choice that society can make. And in a society, you either

00:27:41.960 prioritize Daniel Penny or Jordan Neely, right? It's Daniel Penny over Jordan Neely or Jordan Neely

00:27:52.620 over Daniel Penny. And I don't just mean those men individually in this one case. I mean, in general,

00:27:59.200 those types of men, okay, in society, you prioritize your Daniel Penny's or your Jordan

00:28:05.440 Neely's. Every society has got their Daniel Penny's and you've got your Jordan Neely's.

00:28:09.880 Which one, when something like this happens, who gets the benefit of the doubt? Who do you put a

00:28:16.300 special emphasis on protecting? Uh, who do you, you go out of your way for the sake of one or the other.

00:28:24.100 You elevate and admire one or the other. You, you, you weep over, uh, one or the other.

00:28:35.740 Primarily. Are you going to be a Daniel Penny society or a Jordan Neely society? Now for most of

00:28:42.980 human history, it wasn't a question. There's nothing to think of. Of course it's Daniel Penny.

00:28:47.500 Like, he's the guy, obviously. That's the guy that you protect. That's the guy you admire. That's

00:28:52.520 the guy you put, that's the guy, if there's some sort of thing, a dispute between, you give him

00:28:58.100 the benefit of the doubt. Um, not just that. I mean, these are the guys that you put them in

00:29:04.480 positions of leadership. You make him a Senator, you make him a president, you make him a general

00:29:08.040 leading troops in a battle. Like these kinds of guys, those, that's what you do with those kinds of

00:29:13.140 guys. Uh, and if, if that kind of guy gets in a situation like this, there's just no question

00:29:19.260 about it. You side with Daniel Penny. You wouldn't even think of trying to put him in jail. Hell no.

00:29:24.080 For who? For the sake of some drunk, drug addled bum who's threatening to kill people on the train. 1.00

00:29:29.900 You're going to put that guy in jail for him. Hell no. Um, that's the way it was. That's the way it's 1.00

00:29:37.000 always been until now. And more recently we've switched courses because now we're a Jordan

00:29:44.080 Neely society. He's the kind of guy that we admire and respect and protect and elevate and idolize.

00:29:50.540 He's the guy who gets the benefit of the doubt. Somebody who contributes absolutely nothing.

00:29:57.420 Somebody with no virtue, somebody with no positive attributes, someone who's never done anything

00:30:01.640 positive in his life ever. Someone who has not done anything to improve the lives of anyone around

00:30:07.620 him ever at any point. And, um, someone who has nothing but a strain on society and not a strain

00:30:14.380 on society in the way of like an impoverished widow or an orphan child, you know, someone innocent that

00:30:19.720 you want to protect. Um, no, he's a strain because he chooses to be because he's a totally antisocial

00:30:25.700 criminal bum who goes out of his way to make everyone else's lives miserable. 1.00

00:30:30.760 And this is the guy now who gets the benefit of the doubt. If this guy is locked in a struggle 0.95

00:30:36.180 with somebody else, you know, we assume that the other guy must be responsible, not this dude.

00:30:43.340 It's crazy. It's just, it's, we talk about protecting civilization. Well, you can't have a

00:30:47.300 civilization when you're a, uh, when, when, when, when the instinct is to protect and, uh, give the

00:30:55.700 benefit of the doubt to the Jordan Neelys. Okay. Like the appropriate, the, the, the appropriate 1.00

00:31:01.580 attitude to a Jordan Neely is to look at him like, all right, it's, uh, you mean some drugged up bum was 0.97

00:31:08.540 threatening people on a train and ended up dead? Well, you know, what happens? Life goes on. Sorry.

00:31:14.800 You chose to live your life that way. I don't, I, maybe there are people out there that are going

00:31:18.640 to mourn you. Maybe you're your mom and if you have family, but like the rest of us, no, you,

00:31:25.540 you, you make everyone miserable around you all the time. You're a threat to people around you. 0.99

00:31:30.260 Like, I'm not sorry that you're gone. Why should I be? Um, I will be very sorry if Daniel Penny, uh, 0.66

00:31:37.840 ends up in jail for this. And, uh, you know, this, uh, I, I, I still say that this case is not,

00:31:46.940 to me, it's, it's not quite getting the, the attention that it, that it deserves. Even from

00:31:51.860 conservatives, I think that, you know, it's, it seems like it's just from my perspective, it's not

00:31:57.680 getting like a, um, uh, a Kyle Rittenhouse level of attention. And it should, because this is worse

00:32:06.360 than Rittenhouse folks. This is a lot worse actually. And, and I Rittenhouse, I was, you know,

00:32:10.980 how, how I, where I was on that case fully in support of him and he never should have been put

00:32:16.700 on trial either, but this is a lot worse. It just is. Um, cause you know, the other thing about this

00:32:24.320 case is that there, there is no part of what Daniel Penny did where you can go, okay, yeah, but that 0.99

00:32:29.660 was stupid. He shouldn't have done like with Kyle Rittenhouse. I think almost everyone agrees that 0.99

00:32:34.000 shouldn't have been put on trial with self-defense, thousand percent that, that all of that. Um,

00:32:42.980 but yeah, you, you, you shouldn't be going into the middle of a riot. Like I, I wouldn't recommend

00:32:49.420 that, you know, that's, that's not a smart thing to do. Um, Daniel Penny was just on a, on the train

00:32:55.920 on going to work. Okay. He, he didn't seek out this interact, this, this situation at all.

00:33:05.180 He was just on his train on the way to work. He gets thrust into it as a guy who doesn't want it,

00:33:11.340 but he's thrust into it. And he's suddenly put in a position where I can do the right thing to

00:33:16.540 protect others, or I could just sit there and let this guy harm other people. Cause the other thing

00:33:22.860 that Daniel Penny knows, if I'm to try to get into his head, he knows that, okay, this guy's a threat.

00:33:29.260 Clearly he's making himself known as a threat. He's probably not a threat mainly to me. Like he's

00:33:34.540 probably not going to lie. I can protect myself. Um, but there's women on this train, there's 0.99

00:33:39.220 children on this train, there's other people on this train who are not as physically fit as I am.

00:33:42.260 He's a threat to them more than he's a threat to them. And so Daniel Penny in that situation decided

00:33:46.820 to do the right thing in a situation he didn't ask for, he didn't seek out, he didn't put himself in.

00:33:51.420 Um, so Brittenhouse was an outrageous case, uh, this, this even more so. And I think it should,

00:33:58.500 it should be getting at least that level of attention. Uh, I'm not sure that it is. And

00:34:03.300 I think that's a shame. All right, let's go to this. Um, not exactly the most important story in

00:34:08.300 the world, but, uh, maybe the funniest last week, we talked about Jaguar's new woke ad that they just

00:34:15.760 put out. Uh, it's an ad for, for their cars, I guess, but it doesn't feature any cars or

00:34:21.320 anything, anything that features nothing that has anything to do with cars or anything that would

00:34:26.720 remotely make anyone want to buy one of their cars. Actually, the first time we talked about

00:34:30.240 this last week, I was a little bit, I was slightly hesitant in talking about it because in the back

00:34:37.360 of my mind, anyway, I'm thinking to myself, like, are we sure this isn't some sort of parody? Are we

00:34:41.680 sure this isn't satirical in some way? Is this some kind of joke that I'm just not getting? Am I

00:34:47.480 getting trolled here? Uh, but no, it turns out that's, that was not meant to be a joke. It was

00:34:52.800 a hundred percent serious. Uh, so you've probably seen the, you've also seen the redesigned logo that

00:34:57.300 they have there. And it went from a logo that looked kind of slick and cool and masculine,

00:35:02.000 a look that makes sense with a name like Jaguar to this new look, which to me just based on the look

00:35:09.180 and the font kind of looks like a, like a brand of, uh, you know, cheap fruity wine for women or

00:35:17.640 something. It definitely doesn't look like a car company, uh, brand. So this redesign of the new

00:35:25.140 look and everything has been roundly mocked by everybody everywhere for, for good, for good reason.

00:35:29.440 And that has prompted finally a response from Jaguar's managing director. And this is how we know that

00:35:35.520 it wasn't meant to be a joke. Um, so I'm going to read now from, uh, this is from a website called

00:35:41.920 mylondon.com. Jaguar's managing director, Rodon Glover has expressed his disappointment over the

00:35:49.300 vile hatred and intolerance seen in reactions to a new advert from the luxury car maker. The company

00:35:54.660 faced a storm of online criticism, uh, for the ad, um, Glover explained that Jaguar needs to stand out.

00:36:01.640 If we play in the same way that everybody else does, we'll just get drowned out.

00:36:05.520 So we shouldn't try to turn up like an auto brand. We need to reestablish our brand

00:36:09.480 at a completely different price point. So we need to act differently.

00:36:13.780 Oh yeah, that's right. Cause that's marketing one-on-one apparently.

00:36:17.760 If you're an auto brand, you don't want to seem like an auto brand.

00:36:22.360 Oh, wait a second. Isn't that exactly what you want? Isn't, isn't that whatever the brand is,

00:36:27.740 don't you want to seem like a brand for that thing? Like don't want, don't you want people to

00:36:30.940 know what it is you're selling from an ad? Isn't that literally the whole point of the ad?

00:36:39.360 But you know what? I'm not, I don't, we're not going to even get into that. I don't need to

00:36:42.680 dissect what this guy has said. There's really no part of this worth remarking on except just this,

00:36:48.000 the guy's name, the head of Jaguar, which just put out the gayest car ad of all time is named 0.86

00:36:56.020 Rawdon Glover. R-A-W-D-O-N-G-L-O-V-E-R. Rawdon Lover. That's his name. Rawdon Lover.

00:37:10.780 That's his, that's just his name. I don't have any other, I just wanted to point out that's his

00:37:15.640 name. I don't, I had to verify this. I didn't believe it. I saw this when people were tweeting

00:37:19.580 about it, that the guy's name is Rawdon Glover. And I said, no, no, come on. That's, no, that's a

00:37:27.700 joke. That's not a real, there's no way that's real. So I, I Googled it. I had to Google Rawdon

00:37:32.820 Lover. There's no way around it. I had to actually Google it to find out. And, and yeah, that's,

00:37:37.200 that's his name. Rawdon Lover is his name. I, I don't, if your last name is Glover,

00:37:47.140 how do you give your child the first name Rawdon? Is that even a name? Is that an actual name people

00:37:55.040 have? Was this intentional by the parents? That's the real story here. Like there's a whole drama here

00:38:02.800 behind the scenes about this guy and his parents. Your last name's Glover. It's like the most basic

00:38:09.060 last name. You can, you know what? It's, it's hard to screw that up. There are some last names that

00:38:13.960 are a little tricky. You got to pair it with it. You know, you got to figure out what to pair it with.

00:38:19.580 But, but Glover is like almost anything works in front of Glover. Any, almost any name. You chose the

00:38:27.860 one name that doesn't work. You chose the one name for Glover that, that turns it into something

00:38:34.760 horrifically gay. I mean, you can't tell me that wasn't intentional. You can't tell me that. I don't, 1.00

00:38:41.040 how could it not be? And this is, I'm always shocked that there are parents out there who still

00:38:46.860 don't realize this. And I'm giving the parents the benefit of the doubt on this thing that they,

00:38:50.640 that this was a mistake. But you have to think about the combination of the first and last name

00:38:54.920 and consider what its other meanings might be. And one of the most important considerations in

00:39:01.960 the naming process, and we've been through this six times with our kids. So we've run this exercise

00:39:05.880 six times. You have to imagine, I thought all parents do this. Again, this is like the first

00:39:12.500 thing we do when we think of a name. Before we get into, oh, that name has meaning. It's a biblical

00:39:17.680 name, a saint name. Before you get to that, before you get to that, you think, okay, what are all the

00:39:23.620 ways that your children's peers in the future might turn your child's name into an insult?

00:39:30.740 Which is easy for me, because I just have to think back to, okay, when I was in fifth grade,

00:39:34.800 what would I have said about this name? And, you know, you're always going to have a few names that

00:39:43.600 you like, but you have to abandon because you realize that they could be rhymed in a certain way

00:39:48.240 or pronounced a certain way or abbreviated a certain way. For example, my wife, for a long

00:39:55.940 time, she really wanted to name one of our boys Titus. And it's a cool name, I admit. You know,

00:40:01.400 she made a good case for it. She says it is a Catholic saint. And also it sounds like a Roman

00:40:06.140 emperor. It is a Roman emperor. You know, it sounds like a gladiator or something. Titus,

00:40:11.620 it's a strong name. But I said, we can't, you can't, the first three letters of the kid's name

00:40:16.740 cannot be T-I-T. You can't, I can't, yeah, they're going to be homeschooled, but still,

00:40:20.400 I'm not going to, I'm not going to throw them in. They're going to be on a playground one day.

00:40:22.420 They're going to, they're going to have friends. You can't, you can't throw them in. You just,

00:40:25.340 you can't do that to them. They're making it too easy. Making it too easy on these other kids.

00:40:31.400 Giving them the first three letters are T-I-T. You can't do it.

00:40:34.000 So, none of those things were considered for Rod Don Glover. Rod Don Glover. And now look at him.

00:40:44.600 A self-fulfilling prophecy. You know, it's a shame. Let's move on. The trans lawmaker, 1.00

00:40:52.960 quote unquote, Sarah McBride, after losing, there were all kinds of jokes I could have made

00:40:59.060 transitioning from that into this. There's all kinds of jokes. I'm not making any of the jokes.

00:41:03.400 I'm just saying I could have. In my head, all these jokes are popping into my head about

00:41:07.340 the transition from that story to this one, but I'm not, we're not going to even do it.

00:41:11.560 We're not going to get into it. The trans lawmaker, Sarah McBride, so-called, 1.00

00:41:17.040 after losing the bathroom battle in Congress, was on Face the Nation on Sunday,

00:41:21.680 whining about it. Let's hear some of those wonderful complaints.

00:41:26.940 I think we are all united that attempts to attack a vulnerable community

00:41:32.020 trans. They are not only mean-spirited, but really an attempt to misdirect. 1.00

00:41:37.140 Because every single time we hear the incoming administration or Republicans in Congress talk

00:41:42.580 about any vulnerable group in this country, we have to be clear that it is an attempt to distract.

00:41:48.700 It is an attempt to distract from what they are actually doing. Every single time,

00:41:52.640 every single time we hear them say the word trans, look what they're doing with their right hand. 0.98

00:41:56.820 Look at what they're doing to pick the pocket of American workers, to flee seniors by privatizing

00:42:02.780 Social Security and Medicare. Look what they're doing undermining workers. And here's also what 0.50

00:42:07.660 we have to be clear about, because I think the last week has been a prime example of this.

00:42:12.120 Every bit of time and energy that is used to divert the attention of the federal government to go

00:42:18.020 after trans people is time and energy that is not focused on addressing the cost of living for our 0.99

00:42:23.700 consumers. You know, and this is always the move with these people. The moment the trans activist

00:42:27.940 starts losing, he immediately switches course to, oh, well, this isn't even important. You know,

00:42:33.480 why do you care so much? Why do you care so much about it? And, you know, all I'm going to say to that

00:42:36.780 is, okay, fine. I agree, Congressman. Let's take you at your word. Let's go with that. This trans stuff 1.00

00:42:43.900 is just a culture war distraction, is what you're saying. You'd rather focus on the issues that really

00:42:49.260 matter. Great. Sounds good to me. And this is what we've heard from trans activists lately a lot,

00:42:56.500 as they've lost literally every battle at every level of government for the last year or more.

00:43:01.040 They just, they're taking L after L after L. And now they're falling back on calling the issue a

00:43:06.300 distraction and so on. So, all right, again, fine. Then how about this? Here's my proposal based on

00:43:13.480 that logic. Because I agree. We got other things to think about and so many other things that need

00:43:20.700 to be done. So, I would also love to put this issue to the side completely and just be done with it.

00:43:27.540 So, I agree with Congressman McBride, it sounds like. So, how about this? Here's how we can achieve

00:43:34.760 that. Okay? Let's just go back to what it was before. And by that, I mean like 20 years ago.

00:43:41.600 If you want to cross-dress on your own time, if you want to play, you know, make believe in private, 0.68

00:43:47.060 you can do that. But don't try to make anyone in the public play along with it. Don't try to force

00:43:54.460 your self-perception on anyone in any way at any time. Don't try to impose it on kids, most especially.

00:44:02.020 Don't try to recruit kids into this. Don't try to have public accommodations changed for your sake.

00:44:07.480 Don't try to change the language for your sake. Don't do anything at all to foist any of this on

00:44:15.560 anyone else at any point. It's not important anyway, right? It's a distraction. Great. So,

00:44:24.760 stop creating distractions. You guys are the ones who forced this issue into the forefront. You're the

00:44:30.180 ones who did that. That was all on you. It was your choice. And now your ideology has been

00:44:34.800 absolutely demolished. You've lost over and over and over again. You wanted this fight. None of us

00:44:41.460 chose it. Okay? If you go back 20 years, there wasn't any conservative who would say, hey, you know

00:44:45.820 what? Let's have a big fight over the transgenderism. You know, it was a niche kind of topic that was,

00:44:53.940 you know, they might've debated on a medical level and with the DSM and all that kind of stuff, but

00:44:58.980 it wasn't a central sort of cultural battle. And nobody among conservatives was saying, let's let,

00:45:07.040 you know, let's make this into, uh, no, that was, it was you guys. You saw your opening back,

00:45:14.500 you know, 10 years ago or so. And you said, now's the time. Now we're going to, now we're going to put

00:45:18.080 this thing right in the center of the culture. We want to change the laws. We want to change

00:45:22.600 language. We want to change policies. We want to change the way, uh, sports teams are set up and

00:45:27.780 bathrooms and everything. And now's our time. Um, you chose to do that and you lost and you're just

00:45:34.520 getting, you're, you are getting, uh, destroyed, uh, politically in this thing. And you're going to

00:45:42.720 keep losing. You'll never win. So just back away, give it up, uh, your self-identity. You know, I

00:45:52.620 can't, no one can tell you what you're allowed to think about yourself. Nobody ever tried.

00:45:58.520 Now you can see yourself any way you want to see yourself. I can't stop you from seeing yourself a

00:46:03.860 certain way. I can't stop you from saying anything you want about yourself. Nobody can stop that.

00:46:11.620 Nobody's trying to, it wouldn't be, wouldn't be possible anyway. So, uh, you know, keep, keep it

00:46:18.180 in your own life, keep it private and, um, don't ever try to impose it on the public in any way ever.

00:46:24.660 And then we can all move on, um, and, and talk about other things. Deal. Good. Sounds like a deal.

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00:48:05.920 our Daily Cancellation.

00:48:12.700 Our Daily Cancellation begins with a very viral video that has divided the internet. And as always,

00:48:18.040 the divide is between people who are obviously right and people who are obviously wrong.

00:48:22.660 The video was posted to Twitter over the weekend and has since been viewed over 20 million times.

00:48:26.440 It's not clear when this was filmed or who exactly the people involved are,

00:48:29.580 but none of that really matters for the purposes of our conversation today.

00:48:32.700 As you'll see, this is a dispute between a middle-aged woman and a group of people walking 0.70

00:48:36.080 on a trail in a park in Fort Collins, Colorado. A clip was posted by an account called I Mean,

00:48:41.480 Therefore I Am, who adds this caption, quote,

00:48:44.920 We don't hate Karens enough. Watch as one tries to lecture and stop a person with a service dog from 0.60

00:48:50.300 enjoying a walk in Fort Collins. This is another so-called Karen video. The person who posted it

00:48:55.840 thinks that for all of the relentless vitriol aimed at Karens, the real problem is that there

00:49:00.480 isn't even more, apparently. They're the most hated group on the planet, but they should be even

00:49:06.360 more hated. Now you might think, aren't there any other groups that deserve a little bit of

00:49:11.600 criticism sometimes? Can't some of this anger and energy be directed occasionally at other

00:49:15.760 demographics that behave in objectionable ways sometimes? No, of course not. Let's just keep

00:49:19.900 hating the Karens, also known as middle-aged white women. Because they're a safe group to hate, 1.00

00:49:24.900 hate after all, so let's just stick with that. But is the middle-aged white woman in this video 1.00

00:49:29.340 actually deserving of hate? Well, let's watch and find out. 0.71

00:49:34.900 So I'm barred from going to a park because of a service animal. What? Do you own this park?

00:49:42.480 I live right up there. So do I. I've been doing this three times a week.

00:49:46.280 Okay, so? Do you own this park? Service animals are not allowed.

00:49:51.040 Do you own this park? Dogs are not allowed on this trail.

00:49:55.820 I'm reporting you guys. We're from the community college, that's fine.

00:50:00.220 What? We're from the community college, that's why we're here today, we're on a field trip.

00:50:04.260 So this service, this service dog's allowed in the classroom as well.

00:50:07.580 It's pretty sure it's a federally protected law. Yeah.

00:50:10.280 No, this is not, this is, this belongs to the city of Fort Collins.

00:50:14.180 So the way the federal law works? You're saying that the American with Disabilities Act doesn't apply to...

00:50:18.660 Federal law trumps state law.

00:50:20.080 ...to state, to, to city of Fort Collins regulations.

00:50:23.740 When you have a protected wildlife area, dogs are not allowed.

00:50:28.660 That is a hard and fast rule.

00:50:31.820 Did you see the disturbance of the animals around you as you walk?

00:50:35.580 So service dogs are legally permitted anywhere in the country that visitors can go.

00:50:39.680 So, even if dogs are excluded, this is a service animal.

00:50:45.080 So you can call the authorities all you want, but technically this is a completely legal thing.

00:50:49.620 Did you know that there are protected...

00:50:52.080 We're going to, we're going to move on, okay?

00:50:53.940 All right.

00:50:54.900 All right.

00:50:55.860 You got it?

00:50:57.160 Okay, so let's review for a moment.

00:51:02.060 But these people have decided to bring their dogs to a park where dogs are explicitly forbidden.

00:51:07.500 The woman explains that one of the reasons for this rule is that dogs disturb the other wildlife at the park.

00:51:13.300 The other people claim that the dog is a service dog, which means that they have the right to bring it wherever they want, whenever they want.

00:51:18.900 Now, let's clarify a couple of things here.

00:51:22.680 First of all, even if this animal is a legitimate service dog, and that's a big, massive if, that does not, in fact, mean that they have the right to bring it wherever they want.

00:51:34.220 The Americans with Disabilities Act, which is a disaster in many ways and imposes all kinds of totally ridiculous and counterproductive regulations all over the place,

00:51:42.400 actually does not state that service dogs can go anywhere.

00:51:45.480 In fact, certain parks and zoos, for example, are specifically carved out by the ADA as places where service dogs may not be allowed.

00:51:53.840 So it seems that the, quote, Karen is right on the legal merits here.

00:52:00.160 But so that really should be the end of it, by the way.

00:52:02.960 Like, if she's just right, then she's right.

00:52:04.980 So what's your argument?

00:52:05.820 Yeah, but I don't, but I want to do it anyway.

00:52:08.540 You have a s*** of what you want to do?

00:52:10.160 It's not allowed. 0.97

00:52:12.280 She's right.

00:52:13.020 Sorry.

00:52:13.280 I know you want to do something differently, but it's not allowed.

00:52:17.360 But the other major issue is that, of course, the concept of a service dog has been, like so many other concepts in modern times, expanded to the point of total meaninglessness.

00:52:26.420 So if a person says that they have a service dog, it might mean that they're visually impaired and need it in order to get around.

00:52:32.560 But it might also mean, and these days more likely means, that the dog is something like an emotional support animal or whatever, which is to say that the dog is just a pet.

00:52:41.820 And in so many cases, service dog has become just another word for pets.

00:52:48.500 Now, the law, unfortunately, does allow people to call a dog a service animal for any number of ridiculous and wholly fraudulent reasons, although the law, again, still does not permit the dog to be brought to all public locations, especially not areas where there are other animals that also need to be protected.

00:53:04.020 But even so, it is true that the law gives much more leeway than it should.

00:53:08.840 Because in reality, the title of service dog should almost exclusively, almost exclusively apply to seeing eye dogs.

00:53:17.820 Almost everything else, with maybe a few other legitimate medical exceptions, should not qualify.

00:53:23.080 If you need an emotional support animal, you don't actually need an emotional support animal.

00:53:28.380 What you need to do is grow the hell up, okay?

00:53:31.540 We would treat an adult like a freak if he walked around with his blankie or his teddy bear, you know, for his emotional support.

00:53:37.800 We should have the exact same level of contempt for adults with emotional support animals.

00:53:41.840 It's embarrassing. It's infantilizing.

00:53:43.440 Now, that might not apply to this specific situation.

00:53:48.860 Maybe this was a legitimate service dog, but the principles remain true.

00:53:51.980 Regardless, again, again, regardless, the woman is right about the law here. 0.84

00:53:55.000 Either way, that's the fact.

00:53:58.020 But I want to move past this particular incident and these specific people with their probably illegitimate, but maybe legitimate service animal.

00:54:06.100 Well, I want to go back to the caption, which obviously reflects what seems to be the prevailing sentiment in our society where we're told we don't hate Karens enough.

00:54:17.640 Now, I disagree.

00:54:18.960 I think something closer to the opposite is true.

00:54:21.160 I think we don't appreciate so-called Karens enough. 0.65

00:54:24.380 Now, I've already made the case many times that the term Karen is a racist slur that no serious person, certainly no conservative, should ever use.

00:54:32.280 The fact that it's a racist slur really isn't up for debate.

00:54:36.460 It just is.

00:54:38.060 And by the way, it started that way, too.

00:54:39.920 That's how it started. 0.96

00:54:41.300 It started as a way for black people on Twitter to make fun of white women. 0.99

00:54:44.840 That's the genesis of this term. 0.91

00:54:46.440 I hate to tell you, that's where it comes from.

00:54:49.980 It is a pejorative term used to refer to a people of a certain race and gender.

00:54:54.080 In literally any other context, we would all agree without debate that it is a slur. 0.51

00:54:59.760 As I've explained in the past, if I started calling all annoying black women Shaniquas, there would be no argument that it's racist. 1.00

00:55:05.240 Certainly, if I were to say we don't hate Shaniquas enough, I would be roundly condemned as a racist by basically everybody on both sides of the political divide. 0.98

00:55:14.020 Same if I started calling obnoxious Asians Ching Chongs. 1.00

00:55:17.920 You know, you get the point.

00:55:19.180 Now, in any other example you can possibly think of, it would be a slur.

00:55:24.340 But we're supposed to accept the idea that being racist and bigoted towards white women somehow doesn't count.

00:55:30.980 It's different for them.

00:55:33.100 And for whatever reason, many conservatives don't just go along with this.

00:55:36.440 They eagerly participate in it.

00:55:39.580 But let's put all that aside for a moment.

00:55:41.320 Now, I have defended middle-aged white women against the Karen slur in the past.

00:55:46.240 What I'd like to do now is go a step further.

00:55:48.700 I think society needs the sorts of people that we call, quote, unquote, Karens.

00:55:54.980 I am grateful for them.

00:55:56.360 And you should be, too.

00:55:57.980 Because what are the so-called Karens doing in most of the videos that go viral?

00:56:02.540 They're trying to enforce the rules.

00:56:04.700 They're attempting to restore order in a world of chaos and confusion.

00:56:10.200 There's a reason that this is so upsetting to people nowadays.

00:56:12.640 Why is it?

00:56:13.640 Why is it that nowadays this type of woman is so reviled? 1.00

00:56:19.820 Well, because in past societies, in basically every past society everywhere on Earth,

00:56:23.660 there was a strong sense of etiquette and a set of commonly understood social taboos that governed how people behaved.

00:56:30.020 Our society has done away with virtually all of that.

00:56:32.580 Not for any noble reason, but simply because so many people in this country want to be able to do whatever the hell they want

00:56:40.600 and break any rule they want whenever they want, regardless of the problems and inconveniences it causes other people.

00:56:46.780 They don't care about anyone but themselves.

00:56:49.080 This is why they're impervious to shame.

00:56:51.600 You know, one can only feel shame if they, at least at some level, actually value anyone aside from themselves.

00:56:56.860 But these people don't care. 0.98

00:56:58.640 They don't value anyone or care about anyone else or anything else.

00:57:01.220 It's no wonder that in a culture filled with so many of these types, the so-called Karens would become public enemy number one. 1.00

00:57:08.000 Now, we must note, I'm afraid to say, that, well, I'm not afraid to say, I'm just, I'm saying,

00:57:16.720 unfortunately, I must say that dog owners in particular have a tendency to fall into this and to disregard everyone around them.

00:57:28.080 Not all dog owners, certainly.

00:57:29.780 I'm a dog owner.

00:57:30.780 Guess what?

00:57:31.160 Well, I don't fall into this, but some of them seem to think that they're imbued with the mystical right to bring their dogs anywhere and everywhere all the time.

00:57:42.900 But why should this be allowed?

00:57:44.860 Why should other people have to put up with your pet, even in places where it's obviously not appropriate to bring animals, such as at a restaurant or a grocery store, on a plane?

00:57:53.140 Well, they should have to put up with it because the dog owner wants to bring their dog. 0.97

00:57:59.000 And the only thing that matters in the whole entire universe is what they want.

00:58:02.740 Your desire to eat at a restaurant with basic first world sanitation doesn't register to them.

00:58:08.720 It means nothing.

00:58:09.580 The only thing that means anything is what they want to do.

00:58:12.700 That's how they think.

00:58:13.320 By the way, the restaurant thing, if you think I'm exaggerating this, we were debating this on Twitter.

00:58:19.260 It won't surprise you to learn.

00:58:19.920 I made this point about, well, don't bring your dogs in restaurants.

00:58:24.680 All kinds of dog owners coming out of the woodwork to say, well, no, I'm going to bring my dog in any restaurant I want.

00:58:31.640 Why do you need to bring your dog until people are eating?

00:58:34.620 Can you not at least not bring the dog into places where it's a dining area? 0.97

00:58:39.180 You have an animal that licks his own butt and in the dining area, can I, I'm paying money to eat here.

00:58:46.300 Can I at least not have the animal there? 0.94

00:58:49.920 And you got all these dog owners saying, no, I want to bring my, why should you?

00:58:53.500 Because I want to, just because I want to.

00:58:55.660 That's it.

00:58:56.160 That's the only reason.

00:58:56.680 I just want to do what I want to do.

00:58:59.040 And it's like it doesn't register on them that that's not a valid argument.

00:59:02.860 That's just you saying you're a selfish, which I get it.

00:59:06.080 I know you are, but that's not a justification.

00:59:08.480 So the Karens are the ones. 0.99

00:59:13.720 They are the only ones, really, with the guts to call these out to their faces.

00:59:19.180 I think it's great.

00:59:20.600 In a world full of entitled brats who demand that the rules conform to their preferences,

00:59:25.340 the Karens are there standing in the gap, raging against the dying of the life and the dying of our social norms and etiquette. 0.95

00:59:32.720 We also see this, it's not just with dog owner, but we see this especially in customer service situations.

00:59:38.480 You know, that Karen is so reviled, so often condemned for her propensity to call for the manager. 1.00

00:59:47.700 But why does she do that? 1.00

00:59:49.800 Because customer service is horrifically abysmal these days.

00:59:53.200 We all know that.

00:59:53.820 You know, so often as a customer, you find that you are paying for the privilege of being treated with total disregard,

01:00:02.360 if not outright contempt, by the employees whose wages you are subsidizing.

01:00:08.760 I went through a drive-thru this morning.

01:00:11.740 I hand it, pull up to the window.

01:00:14.040 I say, hey, how are you?

01:00:15.900 No response from the person.

01:00:17.600 They don't even say a word.

01:00:18.500 They just say, pull up to the next window to get my food.

01:00:21.140 No word.

01:00:22.460 Not a word.

01:00:23.940 Not a greeting.

01:00:25.140 Not anything.

01:00:27.240 Okay, I'm paying your, you are, your only job is to smile and say hello and hand a bag.

01:00:34.680 That is your whole job.

01:00:37.540 And you're not doing, you can't do it.

01:00:39.660 You refuse to do it.

01:00:41.320 Now, most people just sit there meekly and take it,

01:00:44.820 allowing themselves to be flagrantly disrespected by people whose whole entire job is to treat them well

01:00:50.100 and care about their experiences.

01:00:52.440 Karen's are the only ones who don't go along with that program.

01:00:57.120 And I applaud them for it.

01:00:59.100 Because I admit, I'm guilty of this.

01:01:01.100 I go to the drive-thru.

01:01:02.060 They hand me an order.

01:01:03.000 Like, half of it is wrong.

01:01:04.320 You can't even get them.

01:01:04.920 Not only do they have contempt for you, they hate you just for being there.

01:01:08.780 And we just, like, accept that.

01:01:09.880 Like, that's okay.

01:01:12.540 You know right away.

01:01:13.940 Like, if you have an order that involves more than two food items,

01:01:17.320 at this point, you know for a fact that it's going to be wrong, at least partially.

01:01:21.860 And like most people, when that happens to me, I'm like, oh, whatever.

01:01:26.480 Okay.

01:01:26.980 All right.

01:01:27.340 I guess I'm eating this now.

01:01:29.240 I wanted a hamburger.

01:01:30.100 You gave me a chicken.

01:01:31.380 I guess.

01:01:31.660 Well, all right.

01:01:32.160 I'll eat chicken.

01:01:32.720 Fine.

01:01:33.100 Because I don't feel like dealing with it.

01:01:34.520 But the Karen, okay, the so-called Karen, she's the only one who says,

01:01:42.020 hell no, I'm the customer.

01:01:43.460 I'm paying.

01:01:44.340 Hey, guess what, buddy?

01:01:45.380 You know, you're going to get my order right.

01:01:47.260 Provide me with competent service.

01:01:49.280 Or else you're going to have a problem.

01:01:50.860 I'm going to cause a problem for you. 1.00

01:01:52.540 And you can pull out your stupid phone, and you can get it on. 1.00

01:01:54.780 You can put it on Twitter. 1.00

01:01:55.940 I don't give a shit. 0.99

01:01:56.960 Okay. 0.99

01:01:57.560 You're going to give me proper service.

01:01:59.160 I'm paying you.

01:02:00.180 This is what I paid for.

01:02:01.580 Give me what I pay for.

01:02:04.520 I think more of us should be Karens.

01:02:06.580 A lot more of us. 0.99

01:02:07.560 Maybe then there wouldn't be so many lazy, incompetent brats everywhere. 1.00

01:02:12.420 So, again, I say thank God for Karens. 1.00

01:02:16.280 Thank God for middle-aged white women who don't have time for your b****. 1.00

01:02:20.500 They are the unsung heroes of our society. 0.99

01:02:23.480 Okay?

01:02:23.760 They are.

01:02:24.260 They're not canceled.

01:02:25.600 Not on this show.

01:02:27.000 On every other show, they are.

01:02:28.180 Not on this one. 1.00

01:02:30.180 Instead, it is the selfish jerks who make the Karen necessary. 1.00

01:02:34.520 They are the ones who are today canceled. 1.00

01:02:38.260 That'll do it for the show today.

01:02:39.140 Thanks for watching.

01:02:39.640 Thanks for listening.

01:02:40.360 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:02:41.560 Have a great day.

01:02:42.480 Godspeed.

01:02:42.780 Thank you.

The Matt Walsh Show - November 25, 2024

Ep. 1493 - A Father’s Tragic Fight to Save His Son from Gender Ideology

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