The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1494 - The Supreme Court Showdown That Could End Child Mutilation Forever

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00:01:53.420 You know, it's tempting to get jaded when you spend any amount of time covering politics or commenting

00:01:58.840 on politics. Very often, you'll weigh in on a particular issue. You'll spend a lot of time

00:02:03.700 developing arguments and presenting them. You might break some news. You might call your

00:02:07.940 congressman or write a comment on social media. And then nothing will happen. The people in power

00:02:12.900 might pretend to listen to you, but in the end, you'll be ignored. And that happens time and time and

00:02:17.920 time again. That's why when the reverse happens, when we actually succeed in bringing about meaningful

00:02:22.540 and substantial change, we should note it and celebrate it, call attention to it. And then we

00:02:28.660 should carefully consider what to do next. We should think about how to capitalize on what we've

00:02:32.260 achieved. And that's the case right now, as a fight we've been waging for several years

00:02:35.800 is about to produce what could very well be one of the most important Supreme Court rulings

00:02:40.760 of our generation. One of the most important moments in this fight came in the fall of 2022,

00:02:46.180 when I posted the results of our investigation into the transgender clinic at Vanderbilt University

00:02:51.740 Medical Center in Nashville, Tennessee. As you probably remember, my team and I uncovered

00:02:55.760 evidence that Vanderbilt viewed so-called gender-affirming procedures as a money-making

00:03:00.800 operation by their own admission. They said it on tape. We also proved that Vanderbilt had boasted about

00:03:06.680 giving irreversible hormone drugs to children as young as 13, about performing double mastectomies on

00:03:12.460 adolescent girls, all in the name of gender-affirming care, quote-unquote. These were procedures that,

00:03:18.020 for the most part, people didn't even realize at the time were happening. Children were being

00:03:23.020 sterilized and butchered, and very few people had any idea that it was going on. And that's why

00:03:28.300 immediately after we reported on Vanderbilt's practices, millions of people living in Tennessee

00:03:33.040 and around the country called for these, quote-unquote, gender clinics to be shut down. We held our

00:03:37.960 rally to end child mutilation here in Nashville. Many of you showed up. Thousands of people showed

00:03:42.440 up. That was the rally when several Tennessee lawmakers announced plans to end these practices.

00:03:47.580 That's exactly what happened. Within months, in response to our reporting, a bipartisan coalition

00:03:51.720 of lawmakers in the Tennessee legislature passed a law called SB1. And this law made it a crime to

00:03:57.500 administer puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones to children for the purposes of affirming the child's

00:04:02.600 alleged gender identity. Surgeries were also banned. Just a year earlier, you know, that kind of swift,

00:04:09.420 decisive action from state lawmakers would have been pretty unthinkable. Gender ideology was a topic

00:04:14.540 that very few politicians wanted to get involved in, even in Tennessee's legislature. At the time,

00:04:20.540 circa early 2022, it was easy for many conservatives, especially conservative politicians, to just sort of

00:04:26.740 accept the left's framing of the issue and move on. But some conservatives didn't move on. Instead,

00:04:33.560 they decided to defend the truth and basic biology and the well-being of Americans, particularly

00:04:39.800 children. Marsha Blackburn, for example, asked Supreme Court nominee Kandaji Brown Jackson to define the

00:04:45.040 word woman during her confirmation hearing. It became an iconic moment. This should have been the single

00:04:50.680 easiest question ever asked in the history of confirmation hearings. But infamously, Jackson, of course,

00:04:55.260 couldn't answer it. And then my film, What is a Woman, was released shortly after that. And once again,

00:05:00.320 self-described gender experts couldn't answer the question. Became one of the most watched documentaries

00:05:05.600 of all time, in part because people were eager to see this deranged ideology being exposed. In other

00:05:12.780 words, the culture shifted. But it didn't shift by accident. Many of us in this fight, we made it shift.

00:05:20.740 And this company, and more importantly, the people who subscribe to us and support our work were a

00:05:27.040 major part of that. So now, two years after the investigation into Vanderbilt, the Supreme Court

00:05:33.600 is set to hear oral arguments in a case called the United States versus Scrimetti. And the arguments will

00:05:39.160 take place next Wednesday. That's when they start. And in the end, this case could very well turn out to

00:05:44.420 be a Dobbs-style earthquake in the fight to protect children in this country. Now, the name Scrimetti

00:05:49.640 in this case refers to Jonathan Scrimetti. He's the Attorney General of Tennessee. He'll be arguing in

00:05:54.320 defense of Tennessee's ban on child mutilation, or SB1. In his brief before the Supreme Court, Scrimetti

00:06:00.140 repeatedly cites the Daily Wire's reporting on Vanderbilt as a catalyst for SB1. He says voters

00:06:04.700 reacted to our reporting and that it would be unconstitutional to override what voters want,

00:06:10.820 which of course it would be. He'll be arguing against the Biden DOJ, along with trans activists

00:06:16.200 at the ACLU. They're taking the state of Tennessee to court over SB1, and their argument is that it's

00:06:22.260 unconstitutional somehow to ban child sex changes. They're claiming that it violates the Equal Protection

00:06:28.680 Clause of the U.S. Constitution. Essentially, they're alleging that doctors and parents have a

00:06:34.340 constitutional right to castrate, sterilize, and mutilate gender-confused kids. So this is not about

00:06:41.260 the constitutional rights of the kids, at least from their perspective. They're saying that the

00:06:45.380 doctors and parents have a constitutional right to do this to children, whereas us over here on

00:06:51.260 Team Sanity are saying that children have a constitutional right, a human right, and that

00:06:57.440 means that they should be protected from this kind of treatment. Now, before I get into the specifics of

00:07:02.860 U.S. v. Scrimetti and the ramifications of it, I need to point out that bringing this case will be

00:07:09.420 one of the last official acts of the Biden administration. And they're the ones who filed

00:07:14.120 an appeal to the Supreme Court demanding that they hear this case after the Sixth Circuit upheld SB1.

00:07:19.600 So to put this in context, after suffering a crushing defeat in the last election, an election in which

00:07:24.420 an overwhelming majority of Americans made it clear that they reject gender ideology, especially

00:07:28.360 as it relates to children. But in light of that, the Biden administration is pressing on.

00:07:34.080 They're continuing to argue in court for child castration and sterilization, even after it's abundantly

00:07:39.060 clear that these procedures are barbaric. Very few Americans actually support them.

00:07:44.320 This is what the Biden administration wants its legacy to be.

00:07:48.280 You know, you can't afford groceries. Violent crime is rampant.

00:07:51.800 The world's falling apart all around you, but at least you can castrate your child.

00:07:55.700 That's kind of the pitch that Biden is making to the voters now.

00:07:59.260 Now, the Supreme Court on Wednesday, the Biden administration will be assisted

00:08:01.880 by the ACLU's lead transgender attorney who uses the name Chase Strangio.

00:08:09.600 Yes, Strangio is the name that this person uses.

00:08:13.640 Now, when I say that Chase Strangio is the ACLU's lead transgender attorney, I mean that in two senses.

00:08:18.620 First, Chase Strangio herself identifies as transgender.

00:08:22.200 She's very clearly a woman trying to pass as a man.

00:08:25.500 And secondly, Chase Strangio is supposedly one of the ACLU's foremost experts in the field of trans-related law.

00:08:33.120 She's currently slated to deliver oral arguments next Wednesday at the Supreme Court when this case begins.

00:08:39.060 And that's not because Strangio is a compelling orator or anything remotely like that.

00:08:44.560 Quite the opposite, in fact.

00:08:46.160 So for a preview of what these oral arguments will look like, here is Strangio explaining her view of Tennessee's bill banning child castration.

00:08:56.120 This is what the nine justices of the Supreme Court can expect to hear next week.

00:09:00.300 This is what they have to look forward to.

00:09:01.460 If you've never felt pity for Supreme Court justices before, then after you hear this, maybe you'll feel a little bit, at least.

00:09:10.060 Here it is.

00:09:11.640 Tennessee, in its briefing before the Supreme Court, very much wants to cast this case as a case about the federal government displacing the state government.

00:09:20.840 But what this case really is about is about the state of Tennessee government displacing the decision-making of families and doctors.

00:09:30.480 So it is the government of Tennessee that has come in and said that you parents who have loved your children since birth, who have cared for them, who have recognized in them deeply painful experiences of distress for years and found medication that your child and you and your doctors all agree is necessary.

00:09:52.000 And the government is coming in and saying, we know better.

00:09:54.580 We are taking this option off the table.

00:09:57.200 For example, our client, John Doe, started asserting himself and recognizing himself as a boy when he was two years old.

00:10:04.320 He is only known as a boy in all aspects of his life.

00:10:09.000 And he has been relying on this medication for years and after, you know, six years of mental health treatment, after multiple specialists, after parents who themselves struggled and researched.

00:10:24.080 And then you have the government of Tennessee acting like these are rash choices being made by individual eight-year-olds when that could not be further from the truth.

00:10:34.520 And that is the story of these families that we are bringing before the Supreme Court.

00:10:38.060 Yeah, it's not a rash decision being made by an eight-year-old.

00:10:42.960 No, this child made the decision when he was two.

00:10:45.240 It's even better.

00:10:47.600 It's decisions being made by a two-year-old is what Chase Strangio says, even though, of course, these decisions are not being made by a child at all.

00:10:53.500 They're being made by the parents.

00:10:54.460 Look, I don't want to predict.

00:10:58.080 I don't want to get ahead of ourselves.

00:10:59.760 I don't want to spike the football before you get into the end zone or anything like that.

00:11:03.320 But I just – and I haven't always agreed with what the Supreme Court has decided on various issues.

00:11:09.480 But I cannot believe that they are going to listen to an argument like that and be persuaded by it.

00:11:20.420 I cannot believe that the Supreme Court in its current makeup will hear an argument about, well, this two-year-old recognized, quote, himself as a boy from birth.

00:11:32.720 I can't believe that they'll be persuaded by that.

00:11:34.900 I just cannot.

00:11:35.480 So this is what we can expect for around 15 to 20 minutes during oral arguments next Wednesday.

00:11:43.320 A woman pretending to be a man will pretend with maximum indignation that it's an overreach by the federal government to protect children from castration.

00:11:54.140 The government – she says the government doesn't know better than parents.

00:11:59.640 How do the state government think that it knows better than parents?

00:12:03.360 Well, actually, sometimes it does.

00:12:05.480 Sometimes it does.

00:12:06.660 In a case where the parents think it's a good idea to abuse their child, in that case, yeah, that is a case where the government should know better.

00:12:16.400 There are, in fact, situations where a parent can do something wrong to a child.

00:12:21.600 Guess what?

00:12:24.120 Sometimes – oh, but a parent chose to do it.

00:12:25.760 Yeah, well, sometimes they can choose to do really bad things to their kids.

00:12:29.360 Okay?

00:12:29.560 And those are cases where, yes, you want the government to step in and say, no, you can't do that.

00:12:35.720 Oh, but I want to.

00:12:36.640 I think it's right.

00:12:37.260 I don't care what you want to do.

00:12:39.500 We know you want to do that to your child.

00:12:41.160 Okay?

00:12:42.160 But you can't.

00:12:44.160 Now, of course, these are people who would love to see the federal government set the price of groceries, raise your taxes in order to pay the living expenses of illegal aliens.

00:12:55.500 Throw the leading presidential candidate in prison so you can't vote for them was the plan.

00:13:01.420 But when there's the possibility that the government might intervene to stop child butchery, suddenly they become small government libertarians.

00:13:09.940 They ask, how could the government possibly interfere in what private citizens want to do?

00:13:15.640 As if that doesn't happen all the time?

00:13:18.020 As if that's not what every law on the books already is by definition?

00:13:21.980 Well, in this case, it's pretty simple, actually.

00:13:27.800 Chase Strangio answered her own question in that video you just saw.

00:13:31.680 The idea that we should honor the wishes of a two-year-old who, quote, asserts herself and recognizes herself as a boy is, to every reasonable person, completely insane.

00:13:44.420 It insults the intelligence of anyone who's ever been around a two-year-old, much less raised one.

00:13:49.520 It's not uncommon for two-year-olds to assert themselves as superheroes or dinosaurs or household pets or any number of other things.

00:13:58.300 That's particularly true if an adult has planted that idea in their head in one way or another.

00:14:03.260 That doesn't mean that we should tell these children that they're actually dinosaurs and then pump their bodies full of dinosaur-affirming hormones, as we know.

00:14:11.320 And this shouldn't need to be explained.

00:14:13.200 It's common sense.

00:14:13.900 And as you heard, Strangio's argument at the Supreme Court will be that an alleged consensus among experts should override your common sense, along with the democratic will of the people, by the way.

00:14:24.700 This is an argument that, in his brief that was submitted to the Supreme Court, Scrimetti demolishes for about a dozen reasons.

00:14:30.640 For one thing, even if you agree for some reason that experts are entitled to some degree of deference, there's still a problem.

00:14:40.200 And that problem is that we have clear evidence that various experts in this area have been compromised for political reasons, not to mention financial reasons.

00:14:48.280 We saw that in the Vanderbilt investigation.

00:14:51.020 For example, in his filings with the Supreme Court, Scrimetti cites evidence that Rachel Levine, the trans-identifying HHS Assistant Secretary for Health, pressured the organization that sets the guidelines for so-called trans-healthcare in order to lift all age limits for these gender procedures.

00:15:07.300 And I've previously outlined the sordid and disturbing history of this organization, which is called WPATH.

00:15:11.600 These are quacks who have no place in medicine whatsoever, no expertise of any kind in medicine.

00:15:18.820 No hospital should be paying attention to anything they say.

00:15:22.700 In internal documents, WPATH admits that it has no idea what it's doing, as Michael Schellenberger documented in the leaked WPATH files.

00:15:29.220 But on top of that, WPATH is an explicitly political enterprise.

00:15:33.380 In communications with WPATH, Levine stated that WPATH's initial failure to lift all age restrictions on gender-affirming procedures for children was, quote,

00:15:41.600 proving a barrier to optimal policy progress.

00:15:46.020 So WPATH relented.

00:15:48.520 Because that's what they're concerned about.

00:15:50.040 Optimal policy progress.

00:15:54.260 You notice what Levine didn't say anything about?

00:15:56.960 The well-being of children doesn't factor in.

00:16:00.000 As the New York Times reports, quote, the draft guidelines released in late 2021 recommended lowering the age minimums to 14 for hormonal treatments, 15 for mastectomies, 16 for breast augmentation or facial surgeries, and 17 for genital surgeries or hysterectomies.

00:16:17.920 The proposed age limits were eliminated in the final guidelines outlining standards of care.

00:16:22.500 That's what they wanted to do.

00:16:23.440 So WPATH did what the Biden administration wanted, which is to tell hospitals that child butchery is acceptable at any age.

00:16:32.060 And that decision matters a great deal because many major hospitals right now rely on WPATH's guidelines.

00:16:37.780 So when you hear about the experts, that's what we're talking about.

00:16:40.280 These are the experts.

00:16:41.100 In their brief, Tennessee went on to provide other evidence that WPATH has compromised.

00:16:46.860 At one point, for instance, WPATH commissioned Johns Hopkins to produce some evidence backing their guidelines.

00:16:51.580 But they gave up on that after the Johns Hopkins review found, quote, little to no evidence about children and adolescents benefiting from these alleged treatments.

00:17:00.400 Now, that highlights another problem for the Biden administration and the ACLU, which is that it's not even true that there's a consensus among experts on this topic.

00:17:08.100 Like, leaning aside the fact that many of these so-called experts are not experts and are totally fraudulent, there's not even a consensus.

00:17:15.360 In fact, there's nothing even approaching a consensus.

00:17:17.760 Health officials in the UK, Norway, Finland, Sweden have all concluded that gender interventions on children, quote, poses significant risks with unproven benefits.

00:17:29.880 There's your consensus.

00:17:32.460 Various groups in this country, including the American College of Pediatricians, have come to the same conclusion.

00:17:38.100 Another problem here, one that Tennessee is going to bring up at the Supreme Court, is that there's recently been an unexplained and very drastic change in the patient population of alleged transgender individuals.

00:17:48.520 In just the past few years, the percentage of children identifying as trans has doubled from 0.7 percent to 1.4 percent.

00:17:56.820 Meanwhile, the percentage of trans-identifying adults has remained constant at about 0.5 percent of the total population.

00:18:03.780 You know, by some estimates, Scrimetti notes, the number of children presenting with gender dysphoria has tripled in just four years, from 2017 to 2021.

00:18:13.600 And these children are now overwhelmingly adolescent girls, when historically, trans-identifying patients were typically adolescent and adult males.

00:18:20.400 So we're dealing with a patient population that's rapidly changing in ways that can only be explained by a social contagion.

00:18:27.400 And rationally, the solution to a social contagion isn't to pump children full of sterilizing hormones.

00:18:32.560 The treatment is to take a step back and address the social contagion.

00:18:38.820 When I say take a step back, I mean take a step a million miles away from anything related to hormones and never even approach that.

00:18:44.980 But what you should be addressing is the social contagion.

00:18:49.900 And one way to do that is to immediately ban the butchery and sterilization of children, which is what voters in Tennessee and many other states have decided to do.

00:18:59.320 The fundamental legal issue in this case is whether these bans on child butchery somehow violate the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

00:19:07.160 And to make that argument, the ACLU is saying that Tennessee's ban discriminates against certain patients on the basis of their sex.

00:19:13.340 This is an argument that makes very little sense because Tennessee's bill doesn't classify anyone based on sex or any other protected characteristic, quote unquote.

00:19:21.500 Instead, the law sets age-based restrictions on procedures like castration, sterilization, and surgery.

00:19:30.720 And that is we ban certain medical procedures based on age all the time.

00:19:34.740 It's a very common thing.

00:19:36.680 That was the legal basis that the Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals used in order to uphold Tennessee's law last year.

00:19:42.700 They concluded that there was no sex-based discrimination at all and therefore no need to apply any heightened standard of review to the law.

00:19:49.020 That ruling was a devastating blow to the trans agenda, as I explained at the time.

00:19:52.520 It was a complete takedown of the idea that SB1 violates the Equal Protection Clause.

00:19:56.900 As the Sixth Circuit explained, the point of the ban is to protect every child equally, whether they are boys or girls.

00:20:02.300 If the Supreme Court denies this challenge by the ACLU and the DOJ on the same grounds, they would give the legal all clear, not just to all the states to pass their own bills, but also to Congress to do something it should have done a long time ago, which is to pass a national ban on so-called gender transitions for children.

00:20:21.700 This is not a state's rights issue.

00:20:25.000 This is a human rights issue.

00:20:26.340 Children have the human right to be protected from castration and mutilation, period.

00:20:32.820 Now, as best I can tell, Republicans haven't introduced any kind of legislation that would ban these procedures on children at a nationwide level.

00:20:39.580 Last year, before he became Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson and other Republicans floated the possibility of a nationwide ban, but they haven't followed through yet.

00:20:46.080 Well, it's time to change that before any more children are harmed.

00:20:51.300 A national ban on this barbarism would prevent the gross human rights abuses like the one I described yesterday in the case of Jeff Younger.

00:21:01.680 It would obviously protect many, many kids.

00:21:04.360 But even aside from all of that, okay, this is also a winning political issue.

00:21:10.640 There's no reason not to do it.

00:21:12.260 Exit polls that were commissioned by Democrats showed that among swing voters who voted for Trump and ultimately decided the election, Kamala Harris' ridiculous stance on gender ideology was the single most important issue in their minds.

00:21:27.240 So what does that tell you?

00:21:28.520 It tells you people are tired of this.

00:21:30.940 So there's no reason we shouldn't press the issue.

00:21:35.780 It's a moral necessity.

00:21:37.840 It's a constitutional necessity.

00:21:39.640 It's also a political win.

00:21:42.660 It's a win-win-win across the board.

00:21:45.060 And in the meantime, you're forcing Democrats to come out and make the argument for castrating 12-year-old boys.

00:21:53.500 Force them to do it.

00:21:55.420 Force them to come out and explain why they're in favor of that.

00:21:59.600 See how that works for them.

00:22:01.680 I'll tell you this right now, and this I'm sure of.

00:22:04.880 No Democrat in Congress.

00:22:08.400 Not one.

00:22:10.160 Not even the trans one in Congress right now.

00:22:13.080 None of them want this fight.

00:22:15.960 None of them do.

00:22:17.220 Other than activists like Chase Strangio and the last remnants of the Biden administration like Levine and those types.

00:22:24.440 All the rest of them, they know how crazy it makes them sound to oppose a ban like this, to come out in favor of chemically castrating children.

00:22:34.800 They know that.

00:22:37.800 This is why they don't want to have this fight.

00:22:39.860 It's the last thing they want.

00:22:41.680 And if they don't want the fight, that's all the more reason to give it to them.

00:22:46.180 Basic rule of politics.

00:22:48.240 Try to think about what your enemies don't want you to do and do exactly that thing.

00:22:55.180 I'll tell you right now, the Democrats in Congress are praying to the God they don't believe in.

00:23:01.080 That Republicans will not come out, will not make an issue out of this, and will not come out with some kind of ban because they don't want to have to get in front of cameras.

00:23:09.040 You know, and start talking about this.

00:23:11.660 With this case before the Supreme Court and conservative control of the entire federal government, we're closer than we've ever been to dealing a crushing and total defeat against the gender cult.

00:23:23.520 All Republicans need to do now is follow in Tennessee's footsteps at the national level.

00:23:27.800 Tell all of these activists, doctors, and butchers that they will never again sterilize or castrate another child, period.

00:23:36.140 Banish this insanity from the country so decisively and so thoroughly that it never returns.

00:23:42.400 That's what voters in both parties are asking for.

00:23:46.820 And it's time Republicans gave it to them.

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00:24:59.080 Daily Wire reports, Denver Democratic Mayor Mike Johnson said there would be mass public resistance

00:25:05.280 if President-elect Donald Trump implemented a mass deportation effort of illegal immigrants from federal forces,

00:25:10.860 likening it to Tiananmen Square moment, even said that he would be willing to get arrested to stop it from happening.

00:25:18.240 So we've heard this kind of rhetoric from Democrat mayors and governors in recent days and weeks

00:25:24.580 as they prepare for the mass deportation event that should be coming, that better be coming.

00:25:31.920 Let's listen to this clip of the mayor talking about this.

00:25:35.960 Trump's new borders are Tom Homan has said that he is willing to arrest leaders like yourself

00:25:42.860 for standing in the way of these policies that they want to enact.

00:25:48.000 Would you be willing to go to jail for these things?

00:25:50.120 Yeah, I'm not afraid of that.

00:25:51.280 And I'm also not seeking that.

00:25:53.040 I think the goal is we want to be able to negotiate with reasonable people how to solve hard problems.

00:25:58.880 Republican and Democratic presidents in the past have all tried to find solutions to these problems.

00:26:02.700 President Reagan helped people get access to work so they could stay and support themselves.

00:26:06.060 Biden and Harris worked on restricting entry at the border to close down.

00:26:08.500 There are a lot of ways to approach this problem.

00:26:10.380 We don't think it has to come to this.

00:26:12.680 But yeah, I think when you look at, you know, Ralph Carr has always been one of my heroes.

00:26:15.740 He was the governor who in the middle of the intermin of Japanese Americans said this was the wrong thing to do.

00:26:20.220 And he stood up.

00:26:20.900 It was unpopular.

00:26:21.880 People were mad at him about it.

00:26:22.840 That was the middle of wartime.

00:26:24.560 If the president or any of his actors are going to do things that we think are illegal or immoral or un-American,

00:26:29.480 we'll stand up against them.

00:26:30.880 So everything you just heard there is incoherent.

00:26:34.760 And starting with, and this has become the kind of standard Democrat talking point now,

00:26:39.860 they used to say, I mean, I'm old enough to remember six months ago when the standard Democrat talking point

00:26:48.680 was that all forms of border enforcement were, are inhumane, unjust, human rights violations, right?

00:26:59.660 Build bridges, not walls.

00:27:01.100 Okay, that sort of nonsense.

00:27:02.580 Well, they know that that's a total losing political position now.

00:27:07.260 And so they've tried to moderate to some extent, but they've ended up in a place that makes even less sense.

00:27:15.400 Because now they say, well, there are other solutions to this problem.

00:27:19.100 You know, we can border enforcement and all that.

00:27:22.280 We should do that, but we shouldn't deport people.

00:27:23.800 Well, but how, then what kind of message is that?

00:27:30.620 So what you're saying is, so if you allegedly want there to be border enforcement,

00:27:35.500 that means you're trying to prevent people from coming in illegally.

00:27:40.040 But then you're also saying that, hey, we're going to try to prevent you from coming in.

00:27:43.700 But if you make it in anyway, you get to stay.

00:27:46.160 So it's like, it's like some kind of game.

00:27:49.100 You know, it's like Red Robin or it's a playground game.

00:27:52.720 You know, it's a fun challenge.

00:27:54.300 But hey, we're going to try to stop you.

00:27:55.660 But if you break through, you get to stay because we can't get, we can't kick you out.

00:28:00.880 That doesn't make any sense.

00:28:01.860 And also, if it's not inhumane and unjust to stop them from coming,

00:28:06.660 then how is it inhumane and unjust to make them leave if they manage to come?

00:28:13.480 Like, if we can prevent them from entering in the door,

00:28:17.700 and that's not a problem, that's not immoral,

00:28:21.460 then how could it be immoral to kick them out if they sneak through the door against our wishes?

00:28:29.800 So that doesn't make any sense at all, of course.

00:28:31.860 He says that deportations is like Japanese internment.

00:28:36.140 Yeah, it's just like Japanese internment camps,

00:28:38.480 except for the fact that it's nothing like that at all.

00:28:41.340 The only similarity is that in both cases,

00:28:44.120 groups of people were being told to go somewhere they don't want to go.

00:28:48.720 Okay, that's the only,

00:28:51.620 there are many examples of that kind of thing in history,

00:28:54.420 where you have groups of people being made to go somewhere they don't want to go.

00:28:58.960 There are cases where it was unjust and it was terrible.

00:29:02.620 There are cases where it's not.

00:29:04.380 It really depends on who the people are,

00:29:07.420 where they're being told to go,

00:29:10.600 and why they're being told to go there.

00:29:13.820 Those are questions we need to fill in before.

00:29:17.060 So if you came to me and said,

00:29:18.040 hey, well, they're rounding up a group of people and making them go somewhere.

00:29:21.780 Isn't that terrible?

00:29:23.860 I would say, it might be.

00:29:26.660 Who are these people and where are they making them go?

00:29:28.460 And why?

00:29:30.820 Is it Japanese internment?

00:29:33.940 Okay, are we rounding up random people?

00:29:36.980 And are we, is it some,

00:29:39.500 is it, did they just pass a law that says that everybody,

00:29:43.480 you know, with a last name that starts with A through F has to be thrown into the ocean?

00:29:51.020 I mean, is it some random thing?

00:29:52.260 Like, in that case, yeah, I'm against it.

00:29:55.040 But the major difference here is that in the case of the illegal immigrants,

00:30:01.560 they are being, will be, hopefully, rounded up

00:30:06.860 and forced to go to their own homes

00:30:10.900 where they lived

00:30:13.480 before they came here illegally.

00:30:17.960 That's what's happening.

00:30:19.840 These are not American citizens who are being rounded up and detained somewhere.

00:30:26.080 These are non-citizens

00:30:28.180 that are being forced to return to their own homes

00:30:32.260 or really anywhere else.

00:30:34.940 I mean, we can't, you kick them out,

00:30:36.900 they can go to their own homes,

00:30:37.860 they could go anywhere else.

00:30:38.900 I mean, they could, the world's their oyster.

00:30:42.820 They're not being forced to stay,

00:30:44.120 they have the entire globe,

00:30:45.960 the entire rest of the globe,

00:30:47.120 you can go anywhere.

00:30:48.740 Go back to your home,

00:30:50.260 go hop a ship,

00:30:52.720 go to Europe if you want.

00:30:53.660 I mean, they'll take in anybody.

00:30:57.580 Go to Antarctica.

00:30:59.200 I mean, you could go anywhere you want.

00:31:00.260 So it's very much the opposite

00:31:05.020 of, like, throwing people in a camp

00:31:07.640 or something like that.

00:31:10.240 The mayor says that there's no reason

00:31:11.980 why it has to come to this.

00:31:13.340 Well, I can think of a reason.

00:31:16.160 There are tens of millions

00:31:17.520 of illegal immigrants in this country.

00:31:20.040 That's the reason.

00:31:20.840 If it hasn't come to this yet,

00:31:24.340 then when would it come to this?

00:31:26.900 By your estimation.

00:31:28.920 I'd love for somebody to ask a question,

00:31:31.540 that question to these people.

00:31:34.840 Like, let's just take the kind of official

00:31:38.240 corporate media estimates

00:31:39.700 of the illegal alien population.

00:31:41.680 And they say, last I checked,

00:31:43.740 they say it's something like 12 million.

00:31:45.860 Like 11.5, 12 million.

00:31:47.580 Now, I think that's almost certainly

00:31:49.880 a significant undercount.

00:31:51.200 We also don't know.

00:31:51.860 There's no way to know

00:31:52.440 that they're illegal.

00:31:53.500 They came here.

00:31:54.280 They came here illegally.

00:31:56.600 So we don't know exactly

00:31:57.680 how many of them there are.

00:31:59.180 That's sort of the whole point.

00:32:00.440 But, and I think 12 million

00:32:02.400 is a massive undercount.

00:32:03.360 But let's just go with that.

00:32:04.080 Let's just go with that for now.

00:32:06.040 Let's pretend it's just 12 million people

00:32:09.700 who are here illegally.

00:32:12.160 Well, 12 million is a lot.

00:32:15.780 Okay, that's a lot.

00:32:18.540 That's a lot of people.

00:32:19.880 That's enough people

00:32:20.740 where you would say,

00:32:22.380 you could certainly argue.

00:32:25.160 In fact, if you're a rational person,

00:32:26.880 you would argue that,

00:32:28.080 yeah, it's come to this.

00:32:30.680 What's this?

00:32:32.120 Making them leave.

00:32:35.640 You know, 12 million?

00:32:36.820 12 million is the entire population

00:32:39.000 of Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska,

00:32:41.100 North Dakota, South Dakota,

00:32:42.260 Delaware, Rhode Island, Montana,

00:32:43.560 Maine, New Hampshire, and Hawaii combined.

00:32:46.740 Okay?

00:32:48.820 That's the entire population

00:32:50.220 of 11 U.S. states combined.

00:32:55.620 And that's going with the conservative estimate

00:32:57.860 of the illegal alien population.

00:33:01.880 Now, if that's not a big enough number

00:33:04.160 to necessitate deportations,

00:33:05.840 then when is the number big enough?

00:33:07.880 When, if 12 million,

00:33:09.660 if we call it 12 million,

00:33:10.920 isn't enough,

00:33:13.960 if it hasn't come to this yet,

00:33:17.720 what do we need?

00:33:18.840 Do we need to have 20 million illegal aliens?

00:33:21.180 Do we need to have 30 million,

00:33:22.720 50 million, 100 million?

00:33:24.900 At what point would you,

00:33:26.360 as the mayor of Denver,

00:33:28.960 would even you say,

00:33:30.260 okay, yeah, this is a bit much.

00:33:32.180 This is a little bit too much now.

00:33:34.120 If we get to the point where,

00:33:35.080 like, a third of the U.S. population

00:33:36.880 is illegal aliens,

00:33:38.180 then would you say that,

00:33:40.220 yeah, it might be a bit,

00:33:40.960 it's a little, you know,

00:33:41.880 this is a little overboard at this point.

00:33:44.640 Maybe we might need to

00:33:45.660 thin the herd a bit here.

00:33:48.740 Well,

00:33:49.360 we know the answer actually is never.

00:33:52.940 It'll never be too many

00:33:55.040 for these people

00:33:57.160 because their goal

00:33:58.480 is the destabilization

00:33:59.720 and destruction of our country

00:34:00.840 and our sovereignty.

00:34:02.480 And that's the part that

00:34:03.800 they don't say out loud.

00:34:05.600 At least they don't often say out loud.

00:34:08.600 But here's the good news.

00:34:10.300 Tom Homan,

00:34:11.840 the new border czar,

00:34:14.320 had a,

00:34:15.180 what I thought was just

00:34:16.060 a spectacular answer

00:34:17.300 to this mayor

00:34:18.260 and his showboating

00:34:19.680 about going to jail.

00:34:21.180 Here's what Homan says.

00:34:23.600 You heard this mayor

00:34:25.340 out there in Colorado.

00:34:28.380 I want to get your reaction to it.

00:34:30.080 And I want you to be clear

00:34:31.140 about who has jurisdiction,

00:34:32.640 the federal government

00:34:33.380 or state and local governments.

00:34:35.280 And if you're a sanctuary state or city,

00:34:37.260 are you breaking the law?

00:34:38.760 Yeah, absolutely breaking the law.

00:34:39.900 All you have to do

00:34:40.460 to look at Arizona versus U.S.

00:34:42.020 you'll see this breaking law.

00:34:43.420 But look, me and the Denver mayor,

00:34:44.740 we agree on one thing.

00:34:46.300 He's willing to go to jail.

00:34:47.940 I'm willing to put him in jail

00:34:49.160 because there's a statue

00:34:50.960 is Title 8,

00:34:52.180 United States Code 1324,

00:34:54.540 Triple I.

00:34:55.020 And what it says is,

00:34:56.120 it's a felony

00:34:56.780 if you knowingly harbor

00:34:58.300 and conceal illegal

00:34:59.300 alien from immigration authorities.

00:35:01.260 It's also a felony

00:35:02.020 to impede a federal

00:35:02.900 law enforcement officer.

00:35:04.060 So if we don't want to help,

00:35:05.240 that's fine.

00:35:05.800 He can get the hell out of the way.

00:35:07.000 But we're going to go do the job.

00:35:08.660 President Trump

00:35:09.160 has a mandate

00:35:09.720 for American people.

00:35:10.860 We've got to secure this country.

00:35:12.200 We've got to save American lives.

00:35:13.920 And I find it shocking

00:35:15.260 that any mayor of a city

00:35:16.220 would say,

00:35:17.260 and President Trump's been clear,

00:35:18.200 we want to concentrate

00:35:18.920 on public safety threats

00:35:19.980 and national security threats.

00:35:21.260 I find it hard to believe

00:35:22.260 that any mayor or governor

00:35:23.340 would say

00:35:23.740 they don't want public safety threats

00:35:25.320 removed from their neighborhoods.

00:35:26.700 I mean,

00:35:27.180 I don't know what the hell

00:35:27.980 is going on in Denver,

00:35:29.100 but we're going to go

00:35:29.720 and we're going to fix it.

00:35:30.460 If you don't want to fix it,

00:35:31.500 if you don't want to protect

00:35:32.320 his communities,

00:35:33.240 President Trump

00:35:33.820 and ICE will.

00:35:36.240 So that's,

00:35:37.240 that's a great,

00:35:38.140 he's willing to go to jail

00:35:39.060 and I'm willing to put him there.

00:35:40.000 That's a great,

00:35:40.920 that's a great line.

00:35:41.640 That is a great answer.

00:35:42.640 And that's what we've been missing.

00:35:44.060 You know,

00:35:44.240 you need a guy

00:35:44.840 with exactly this kind of attitude

00:35:46.180 in charge of something like this,

00:35:48.160 something like,

00:35:48.640 if you're going to have

00:35:48.980 a deportation program,

00:35:51.180 you need somebody

00:35:52.300 exactly like this

00:35:53.180 heading it up.

00:35:53.980 Somebody who,

00:35:56.260 you know,

00:35:56.560 his attitude,

00:35:57.960 usually what you'll hear

00:35:59.260 is,

00:35:59.860 well,

00:35:59.920 you don't want to make a martyr.

00:36:00.940 You don't want to make martyrs

00:36:01.840 out of these people.

00:36:03.360 The Denver,

00:36:04.020 Denver mayor wants to be a martyr.

00:36:05.560 He wants to martyr himself

00:36:06.320 by going to jail.

00:36:08.100 Want to make a martyr out of him.

00:36:09.920 No,

00:36:10.440 make a martyr out of him.

00:36:12.300 Martyr in the sense of

00:36:13.080 he wants to go to jail

00:36:13.860 and then fine.

00:36:14.960 Send him.

00:36:15.240 If that's what he wants,

00:36:15.800 he can go to jail.

00:36:17.260 He can make a martyr of himself

00:36:18.120 all he wants.

00:36:19.760 But here's the difference.

00:36:21.400 Because you see this

00:36:22.160 with left-wing activists

00:36:22.960 all the time.

00:36:23.520 They're very,

00:36:23.920 they're very willing

00:36:25.140 to go to jail.

00:36:26.100 They're very willing

00:36:26.740 to do things

00:36:27.640 that will

00:36:29.280 or should

00:36:30.760 end with them going to jail.

00:36:32.920 They're willing to do things

00:36:33.700 that are against the law,

00:36:34.600 whether that's,

00:36:35.520 you know,

00:36:35.680 you have

00:36:36.020 government officials

00:36:37.720 saying that they're going

00:36:38.440 to defy federal law,

00:36:40.340 harbor fugitive aliens,

00:36:42.360 which is a federal crime,

00:36:44.060 whether it's

00:36:46.080 these eco-terrorists

00:36:47.840 that are blocking highways

00:36:49.260 and dumping paint

00:36:51.280 on,

00:36:52.420 you know,

00:36:54.780 works of art

00:36:55.400 in museums,

00:36:57.280 BLM rioters,

00:36:58.780 of course,

00:36:59.100 burning down buildings,

00:36:59.740 all the rest of it.

00:37:00.320 You have these

00:37:01.060 left-wing activists

00:37:02.080 that break the law

00:37:03.600 all their time.

00:37:04.400 They're very willing

00:37:04.880 to do that.

00:37:06.580 And sometimes

00:37:07.140 you even hear conservatives

00:37:08.020 that I think mistakenly

00:37:09.840 but sort of begrudgingly

00:37:12.360 give the left-wing activists

00:37:14.320 a little bit of credit.

00:37:15.260 They're like,

00:37:15.540 well,

00:37:15.720 at least they're,

00:37:16.180 hey,

00:37:16.400 you know,

00:37:17.220 I don't agree with them,

00:37:18.300 but they're really putting

00:37:19.740 their money

00:37:19.980 where their mouth is.

00:37:21.820 But they're actually not

00:37:22.820 because here's the,

00:37:24.120 the unspoken thing

00:37:25.500 with all of these

00:37:27.240 left-wing activists

00:37:28.180 martyr,

00:37:29.500 you know,

00:37:30.420 embracing their martyrdom

00:37:31.680 by going to jail.

00:37:32.240 they're always doing it

00:37:34.420 with the implicit understanding

00:37:36.500 that,

00:37:38.960 number one,

00:37:39.500 they,

00:37:39.680 they might not even

00:37:40.680 get arrested at all

00:37:41.700 in the first place.

00:37:42.840 But if they do,

00:37:44.280 nothing's really

00:37:45.260 going to happen to them.

00:37:47.280 If,

00:37:47.480 in their minds,

00:37:48.380 they're not actually,

00:37:49.380 maybe they go to jail,

00:37:50.580 maybe they spend a night

00:37:51.480 in jail at most,

00:37:52.440 probably not even that long.

00:37:55.440 And then they get to go

00:37:56.400 and they get,

00:37:57.040 they get all,

00:37:57.580 they get the photo op

00:37:58.480 of them getting arrested,

00:37:59.460 they get to go talk,

00:38:00.780 they get to go brag about

00:38:02.220 about it.

00:38:03.520 You know,

00:38:04.500 and,

00:38:04.960 and that's what it is.

00:38:05.940 That's what the martyrdom

00:38:06.740 is for them.

00:38:10.200 Now,

00:38:11.220 if you made it clear

00:38:14.540 that,

00:38:14.940 oh yeah,

00:38:15.120 we're going to arrest you

00:38:15.940 and we're going to

00:38:16.440 actually put you in prison.

00:38:19.200 So go ahead,

00:38:20.000 tough guy.

00:38:20.800 Go ahead.

00:38:22.140 You want to,

00:38:22.620 I'm willing to go to jail.

00:38:23.620 Okay,

00:38:23.940 but you're really going to go.

00:38:25.920 This is not just,

00:38:26.900 this is not a photo op

00:38:28.180 where we march you down

00:38:29.980 and you spend two hours

00:38:32.080 in a jail cell

00:38:32.840 before you get bailed out

00:38:33.840 and you never see the inside

00:38:34.640 of a jail cell again.

00:38:35.560 We're going to actually

00:38:36.100 prosecute you.

00:38:37.500 We're going to try to put you

00:38:38.360 in prison for real.

00:38:40.100 Like,

00:38:40.780 years.

00:38:42.400 Then we'll see.

00:38:43.020 We'll see how tough you are then.

00:38:45.140 And that goes for this mayor,

00:38:46.580 it goes for the,

00:38:47.280 the,

00:38:47.620 the,

00:38:47.840 the eco-terrorists,

00:38:49.700 it goes,

00:38:49.880 any of them.

00:38:53.140 Now,

00:38:53.540 I guarantee,

00:38:53.960 once you start doing that,

00:38:57.160 you're not going to find

00:38:57.920 nearly as many left-wing activists.

00:38:59.860 Antifa,

00:39:00.500 you know,

00:39:00.700 another example.

00:39:01.720 All of them,

00:39:02.380 all of them,

00:39:02.960 all of this,

00:39:03.980 it's all theater to them

00:39:05.460 because it's always

00:39:06.900 with the implicit understanding

00:39:08.100 that they're not actually

00:39:09.220 going to suffer

00:39:09.620 any real significant

00:39:10.920 legal consequences.

00:39:12.540 Once you start

00:39:13.620 imposing

00:39:14.940 real significant

00:39:16.120 legal consequences,

00:39:17.160 I think almost all of them

00:39:18.460 back away

00:39:18.980 because they're like,

00:39:19.640 oh,

00:39:19.760 wait a minute,

00:39:20.140 I don't want to do it.

00:39:21.520 This mayor,

00:39:22.420 the,

00:39:23.100 the,

00:39:23.400 the mayor of Denver,

00:39:24.400 he doesn't want to actually

00:39:25.480 go to jail

00:39:26.060 for,

00:39:28.760 even if you put him in jail

00:39:29.840 for six months,

00:39:30.440 he doesn't want to do that.

00:39:31.300 Six months?

00:39:32.800 Hell no.

00:39:33.800 Six hours at most.

00:39:37.320 So,

00:39:37.760 that has to be the,

00:39:38.500 the follow-up

00:39:39.100 and I,

00:39:39.340 I think Tom Allman

00:39:40.300 would do that.

00:39:41.800 Of course,

00:39:42.180 he can't do that

00:39:42.620 all on his own.

00:39:43.300 The prosecuting part of it

00:39:44.240 would have to be,

00:39:45.380 you know,

00:39:46.140 you need the Justice Department

00:39:47.060 for that,

00:39:47.400 but,

00:39:47.660 that's what's going to

00:39:49.940 have to be necessary.

00:39:52.020 All right,

00:39:52.520 Daily Wire reports,

00:39:53.840 Trump Defense Secretary nominee

00:39:55.040 Pete Hegseth

00:39:55.700 has broken his silence

00:39:56.720 on the sexual assault

00:39:57.620 accusation made against him

00:39:58.620 back in 2017,

00:39:59.540 which has resurfaced

00:40:00.460 since President-elect Trump

00:40:02.120 tapped Hegseth

00:40:02.780 for the DOD position.

00:40:04.320 A police report

00:40:04.800 concerning the allegation

00:40:05.560 against Hegseth

00:40:06.300 was released last week

00:40:07.540 in response to a public

00:40:08.240 records request.

00:40:09.040 An unnamed woman

00:40:09.640 claims Hegseth

00:40:10.520 sexually assaulted her

00:40:11.400 in a hotel room

00:40:11.980 following a conservative

00:40:12.660 conference.

00:40:13.680 Hegseth said the encounter

00:40:14.560 was consensual

00:40:15.340 and police decided

00:40:16.120 against any further action.

00:40:18.300 It's very simple,

00:40:18.920 Hegseth told reporters.

00:40:19.700 The matter was

00:40:20.280 fully investigated.

00:40:21.020 I was completely cleared

00:40:21.680 and that's where

00:40:22.100 I'm going to leave it.

00:40:24.000 An attorney for Hegseth

00:40:24.920 told the New York Post

00:40:25.560 on Monday

00:40:25.960 that they're demanding

00:40:26.640 a file from the Monterey

00:40:27.820 County District Attorney's

00:40:28.620 Office that they believe

00:40:29.400 will show further

00:40:30.100 exonerating details

00:40:30.940 about the interaction.

00:40:32.100 The memo the legal team

00:40:33.860 is seeking outlines

00:40:34.620 why the District Attorney's

00:40:35.640 Office did not prosecute.

00:40:37.000 It allegedly details

00:40:37.800 an earlier allegation

00:40:39.080 of sexual misconduct

00:40:39.820 made by Hegseth's accuser.

00:40:42.960 As part of her investigation,

00:40:43.960 we received credible information

00:40:44.960 indicating that she may

00:40:45.820 have made similar

00:40:46.920 false allegations

00:40:47.680 against another man

00:40:48.760 in the past.

00:40:50.160 The DAA may have relied

00:40:51.340 upon this as part

00:40:52.300 of their determination

00:40:52.940 in addition to other witnesses

00:40:54.380 who contradicted her story.

00:40:56.600 And the report goes on

00:40:57.400 to say that there's also

00:40:59.880 security camera footage

00:41:00.820 of the witness

00:41:01.580 going up to the hotel room

00:41:04.220 with Hegseth,

00:41:05.240 does not appear

00:41:05.920 to be intoxicated,

00:41:07.400 is locked arms

00:41:08.860 with Hegseth,

00:41:09.940 smiling as she goes up.

00:41:12.080 Okay, so we went

00:41:12.920 through this on Friday.

00:41:13.860 This rape claim

00:41:14.940 is obviously false

00:41:16.100 in my opinion,

00:41:16.940 not even borderline

00:41:18.240 from my perspective,

00:41:19.260 not even something

00:41:19.900 that gives you pause

00:41:21.440 and you have to think

00:41:22.300 about for a second.

00:41:23.460 This to me is clearly false,

00:41:26.480 clearly a false allegation.

00:41:28.740 This woman was out drinking

00:41:29.880 with Pete Hegseth

00:41:30.520 late at night at a hotel

00:41:31.740 with her husband and kids

00:41:33.900 sleeping upstairs

00:41:34.760 in their own rooms

00:41:36.240 and she willingly went back

00:41:38.920 to Hegseth's hotel room.

00:41:40.560 A few days later,

00:41:41.320 she claims that she was raped

00:41:42.360 after her husband

00:41:43.060 starts asking questions.

00:41:44.200 Again, it's not difficult

00:41:45.200 to sniff out

00:41:45.960 what's actually going on here,

00:41:47.560 not difficult to figure out

00:41:48.700 the real motivation.

00:41:50.920 This has all the markings

00:41:51.980 of a case

00:41:52.540 where a woman

00:41:53.060 did a horrible thing,

00:41:54.740 chose to do a horrible thing

00:41:56.100 by cheating on her husband,

00:41:57.740 then made up the rape claim

00:41:59.040 in order to avoid accountability.

00:42:00.800 It has all the markings

00:42:01.580 of that,

00:42:02.000 all signs point

00:42:03.040 in that direction.

00:42:04.680 And now we learn

00:42:05.420 from this latest update

00:42:06.920 that this accuser

00:42:08.660 potentially has another

00:42:09.700 false claim

00:42:10.440 under her belt as well.

00:42:12.080 And if that's the case,

00:42:14.180 then it really goes back

00:42:14.960 to what I said last week,

00:42:15.960 which is,

00:42:16.280 and I've said plenty of times

00:42:17.140 in the past,

00:42:17.600 which is that there have

00:42:19.120 to be punishments

00:42:19.940 for women like this.

00:42:22.760 If you have a serial

00:42:24.000 false accuser,

00:42:25.360 that is a person

00:42:26.920 who is a danger

00:42:27.700 to society.

00:42:28.300 That is a dangerous

00:42:29.380 sociopath.

00:42:30.080 I mean,

00:42:33.600 even before you get

00:42:34.360 to the false accusation,

00:42:35.760 the fact that she would

00:42:36.460 do this to her husband

00:42:37.580 is a reflection

00:42:40.940 of a deeply horrible person.

00:42:46.240 It's just,

00:42:47.860 can you imagine being

00:42:48.740 in the husband's shoes here?

00:42:50.280 How must he be feeling

00:42:51.500 right now?

00:42:53.180 But sadly,

00:42:54.400 he married a monstrous woman,

00:42:56.380 a woman who will

00:42:57.220 plunge a knife

00:42:58.480 right into his gut,

00:42:59.380 emotionally speaking,

00:43:00.500 and think nothing of it.

00:43:03.520 And again,

00:43:03.820 that's without even

00:43:04.340 considering the false

00:43:05.240 allegation part of this.

00:43:07.040 So without that,

00:43:08.320 it's a horrendously evil thing.

00:43:10.540 And,

00:43:10.980 you know,

00:43:11.660 let's be honest.

00:43:14.100 She's not the only woman

00:43:15.140 like this.

00:43:15.620 She's not in the majority,

00:43:16.580 certainly.

00:43:17.920 Not all women

00:43:18.580 are like this,

00:43:19.080 obviously.

00:43:20.820 But,

00:43:21.420 this kind of woman

00:43:23.060 exists out there

00:43:23.840 in the world,

00:43:24.400 and this kind of woman

00:43:25.340 is the kind of woman

00:43:26.280 who keeps the,

00:43:27.160 you know,

00:43:28.340 the MGTOW movement,

00:43:29.940 the men go their own way

00:43:30.900 movement,

00:43:31.220 keeps the kind of

00:43:31.980 manosphere attitude

00:43:33.060 of let's abandon marriage,

00:43:34.720 let's give up on the family

00:43:36.180 because we can't trust women.

00:43:37.500 It kind of keeps all that going.

00:43:40.040 It's women like this.

00:43:41.340 Because young men,

00:43:42.160 they look at a story like this

00:43:43.240 and they think,

00:43:44.320 you know,

00:43:45.220 my worst fear in life

00:43:46.720 is ending up with

00:43:48.960 an atrocious,

00:43:50.120 evil beast

00:43:51.080 like this woman.

00:43:52.120 That's my worst fear.

00:43:53.140 some woman

00:43:55.340 who will just ruin

00:43:56.180 my life,

00:43:56.900 who will

00:43:57.400 cut me open

00:43:59.900 and destroy me.

00:44:04.800 But the good news is,

00:44:06.520 here's the good news,

00:44:07.740 as I think I said yesterday,

00:44:09.320 that these types of women

00:44:10.560 are almost always

00:44:12.840 very easy to identify.

00:44:15.880 They're not evil geniuses

00:44:18.180 for the most part.

00:44:19.460 they're the ones

00:44:21.420 having sex

00:44:21.940 with random dudes

00:44:22.660 that they meet at hotels.

00:44:24.120 Okay,

00:44:24.380 that's like that kind of woman.

00:44:26.340 That's your first clue.

00:44:27.220 It's your first clue

00:44:27.800 that something's wrong here.

00:44:29.480 And you should be able

00:44:30.440 to identify them.

00:44:31.340 You should be able

00:44:32.300 to identify

00:44:32.960 a bad person.

00:44:37.800 If you are perceptive,

00:44:41.380 you should have them clocked

00:44:43.400 within like five minutes

00:44:44.680 of meeting them.

00:44:46.700 If you're a

00:44:47.720 vaguely perceptive person,

00:44:50.700 and we don't know

00:44:51.140 who this woman is,

00:44:51.900 but if you met her,

00:44:53.400 whoever she is,

00:44:55.540 within five minutes,

00:44:57.400 you would be able

00:44:58.220 to identify like,

00:44:59.040 this is not someone

00:44:59.680 I want to be around.

00:45:00.500 This is just not

00:45:01.260 a good person.

00:45:03.320 And certainly,

00:45:04.160 after several months

00:45:04.740 of dating them,

00:45:05.420 it should be clear.

00:45:06.720 With rare exception,

00:45:07.880 where maybe you do have

00:45:08.680 someone who's

00:45:09.440 a master of disguise,

00:45:11.620 a master of presenting

00:45:13.060 themselves a certain way,

00:45:15.200 and then they flip on you.

00:45:16.420 You know,

00:45:16.820 they tear the mask off

00:45:18.080 as soon as you've

00:45:18.720 walked down the aisle.

00:45:19.540 That may happen,

00:45:20.480 rare, rare, rare occasion,

00:45:22.140 but most people

00:45:23.120 are not like that.

00:45:23.840 Most people,

00:45:24.440 men and women,

00:45:25.760 they're not very good

00:45:27.360 at hiding.

00:45:27.920 I mean,

00:45:28.080 look at this woman.

00:45:28.740 She's just,

00:45:29.480 this is,

00:45:30.940 this apparent ploy

00:45:33.560 to avoid accountability,

00:45:35.420 it's like incredibly

00:45:36.200 obvious to everybody.

00:45:37.440 So this is not,

00:45:38.280 not exactly,

00:45:40.520 again,

00:45:40.960 not exactly an evil genius.

00:45:42.000 And that's all

00:45:44.320 without even considering

00:45:45.300 the apparently

00:45:45.880 false accusation.

00:45:47.160 When you factor that in,

00:45:49.820 and if there are more

00:45:50.740 than one of them,

00:45:51.360 potentially,

00:45:52.840 well,

00:45:53.320 now you have a woman

00:45:54.100 who is morally identical

00:45:56.600 to a serial rapist.

00:45:58.900 This is like Bill Cosby,

00:46:01.360 but younger and female.

00:46:04.000 This is the younger

00:46:05.080 female version

00:46:06.160 of a Bill Cosby.

00:46:07.180 Morally,

00:46:09.460 she's that kind of person

00:46:10.640 if these are all

00:46:11.960 false accusations.

00:46:13.960 And also,

00:46:14.680 that kind of danger

00:46:15.440 to society

00:46:16.000 and should be in prison.

00:46:18.000 If it's true

00:46:18.720 that she committed

00:46:19.240 multiple false accusations,

00:46:20.880 she deserves to rot

00:46:21.740 in prison

00:46:22.080 for the rest of her life

00:46:22.900 and never see

00:46:24.000 her children again.

00:46:24.880 I mean,

00:46:25.060 she is a danger.

00:46:26.840 And we need to start

00:46:27.920 treating people

00:46:29.240 like this

00:46:29.960 like that.

00:46:34.300 So,

00:46:34.940 and by the way,

00:46:35.380 I also wanted to note

00:46:36.060 that it,

00:46:36.640 you know,

00:46:38.820 this has been mentioned

00:46:39.700 in a few of the reports

00:46:40.600 signed up kind of in passing.

00:46:41.540 We heard in the Daily Wire report,

00:46:42.660 but they met

00:46:44.880 at some kind of

00:46:45.780 conservative convention.

00:46:46.740 I think I saw

00:46:47.260 that it was

00:46:47.560 a Republican women's convention

00:46:49.120 is where this all happened.

00:46:52.200 At a Republican women's conference,

00:46:54.920 you've got two people,

00:46:56.340 one of them married,

00:46:57.580 going up to a hotel room together.

00:47:00.220 Then the woman ends up

00:47:01.200 trying to me too the guy.

00:47:03.700 Right?

00:47:03.840 So some real conservative values

00:47:05.320 on display there.

00:47:06.140 And I have to tell you,

00:47:07.280 as someone who's been

00:47:08.160 in the conservative media business

00:47:09.500 for a long time

00:47:10.320 and been to my share

00:47:12.560 of conservative conferences,

00:47:14.680 the fact that this happened

00:47:15.860 at a conservative conference

00:47:16.640 is the least surprising detail

00:47:18.660 of all.

00:47:19.600 I hate to say.

00:47:21.300 The fact that a woman

00:47:22.280 brought her husband

00:47:23.240 and children

00:47:23.760 to a conservative conference

00:47:25.140 to talk about,

00:47:26.100 you know,

00:47:27.860 conservative family values

00:47:29.600 and then turned around

00:47:30.380 and had sex

00:47:30.800 with another man

00:47:31.360 that very night

00:47:32.840 with her family

00:47:34.160 in the hotel.

00:47:37.220 That is,

00:47:38.120 I'm afraid to say,

00:47:38.760 incredibly unsurprising.

00:47:40.120 I can't tell you

00:47:40.860 how not shocked I am.

00:47:42.320 There's a certain type

00:47:43.460 of person

00:47:43.920 in the

00:47:44.860 conservative movement

00:47:47.860 and,

00:47:51.680 yeah,

00:47:52.520 well,

00:47:52.640 there are many

00:47:52.940 different types

00:47:53.480 like in any movement.

00:47:55.900 And over the years,

00:47:57.120 I've met a ton

00:47:58.120 of really good people

00:47:59.040 in the conservative movement,

00:48:00.720 people who believe deeply

00:48:01.740 in the values

00:48:02.520 that we fight for

00:48:03.240 and in the cause,

00:48:04.080 people who live

00:48:04.600 according to the values

00:48:05.400 that they fight for,

00:48:06.640 good,

00:48:07.100 honest people,

00:48:07.660 a lot of those kinds

00:48:08.480 of people.

00:48:09.280 Those are the people

00:48:09.860 I like,

00:48:10.880 the great people.

00:48:12.520 But there is another type.

00:48:13.920 And if you go

00:48:14.340 to the conservative conferences

00:48:15.480 and conventions

00:48:16.220 and banquets

00:48:16.960 and all that stuff,

00:48:17.800 you meet this other type.

00:48:19.440 And,

00:48:19.980 you know,

00:48:21.220 for them,

00:48:21.760 they go to the conventions,

00:48:22.880 they go to the conferences,

00:48:24.100 they're involved,

00:48:25.580 they're getting involved,

00:48:26.780 they walk around

00:48:27.540 with the lanyard

00:48:28.200 around their neck,

00:48:29.020 but,

00:48:30.240 you know,

00:48:31.020 it's a social club to them.

00:48:33.020 They don't care at all

00:48:33.920 about any of the issues.

00:48:36.520 They'll go to like

00:48:37.460 20 conferences in a year,

00:48:39.060 but they won't do anything

00:48:41.200 besides that.

00:48:43.400 Their version of fighting

00:48:44.600 for the cause

00:48:45.160 is going to conferences.

00:48:47.040 And that's it.

00:48:48.120 And when I say

00:48:49.580 it's a social club

00:48:50.240 to these people,

00:48:51.120 it's a social club

00:48:51.860 in the sense of like

00:48:52.460 a sorority or a fret.

00:48:53.880 I mean,

00:48:54.080 that's how they treat it.

00:48:56.260 And that's why

00:48:56.880 you have these people,

00:48:57.840 you know,

00:48:58.160 hooking up in hotel rooms

00:48:59.320 and all the rest of it.

00:48:59.940 It's just,

00:49:01.080 it's pathetic,

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00:50:59.740 Today for our daily cancellation,

00:51:07.360 I want to bring this

00:51:08.020 full circle and return

00:51:09.000 to the subject

00:51:09.500 we opened the show with.

00:51:10.700 I believe, as you know,

00:51:11.840 that there needs to be

00:51:13.380 a federal ban

00:51:14.260 on gender transitions

00:51:15.480 for children.

00:51:16.480 Actually, I think there should be

00:51:17.220 a federal ban

00:51:18.520 on all gender transitions

00:51:19.620 for everybody,

00:51:20.360 children and adults alike.

00:51:22.300 It should not be legal

00:51:23.480 for a doctor

00:51:24.320 to sexually mutilate anyone,

00:51:26.220 no matter how old they are.

00:51:27.700 Doctors should be legally barred

00:51:29.360 from performing

00:51:29.920 Frankenstein medical experiments

00:51:31.540 on their patients.

00:51:33.280 And it's especially evil

00:51:34.520 to do when the patient

00:51:36.020 is 13 years old,

00:51:37.240 but it isn't suddenly okay

00:51:39.180 or medically valid

00:51:40.260 if the patient

00:51:41.460 is 33 years old.

00:51:43.180 However, I do believe

00:51:44.580 in taking what you can get

00:51:47.140 in any fight,

00:51:49.660 working incrementally

00:51:50.760 towards your ultimate goal.

00:51:52.840 And all that means

00:51:53.460 is that you have to choose

00:51:54.440 the best available option

00:51:55.840 at any given moment.

00:51:57.500 A full ban

00:51:58.220 on medical transitions

00:51:59.140 for everybody

00:52:00.240 is not available

00:52:01.380 right now politically,

00:52:02.460 so we'll start

00:52:03.040 with the most important thing,

00:52:04.180 which is protecting children.

00:52:05.520 On that end,

00:52:06.040 I want to deal with

00:52:06.700 the most common objection

00:52:07.800 I still hear

00:52:08.640 to my position

00:52:09.660 and the position

00:52:10.140 of all sane people

00:52:11.120 that child gender transition

00:52:12.920 should be banned

00:52:13.680 across the board.

00:52:15.700 And it's not even

00:52:17.000 an objection really

00:52:18.220 so much as

00:52:19.020 essentially a delaying tactic.

00:52:20.480 It's kind of an argument

00:52:21.380 for stalling,

00:52:22.380 for refusing to charge ahead

00:52:23.780 and do the right thing.

00:52:25.780 And I've heard

00:52:26.200 this argument a lot.

00:52:26.940 I anticipate

00:52:27.720 that we'll probably

00:52:29.020 hear much more of it.

00:52:30.540 It'll be the main point

00:52:31.640 of resistance

00:52:32.300 from some Republican

00:52:33.420 members of Congress

00:52:34.320 to the idea

00:52:35.680 of passing a federal ban.

00:52:37.380 So I think it's worth

00:52:38.340 addressing here again.

00:52:40.040 And in order to address it,

00:52:41.180 I'm going to use this tweet

00:52:42.340 from somebody named

00:52:43.060 David Crabb

00:52:44.120 to frame the argument.

00:52:45.520 He responded to me

00:52:46.180 on Twitter yesterday

00:52:46.800 with this point.

00:52:47.500 I have no idea

00:52:47.880 who this guy is.

00:52:48.820 He's not anybody important.

00:52:49.820 It doesn't matter.

00:52:50.760 But he lays out

00:52:51.780 the argument

00:52:52.220 that I want to refute,

00:52:53.020 if you can even

00:52:54.100 call it an argument.

00:52:55.800 But again,

00:52:56.440 hear this all the time.

00:52:57.220 So here's what he says.

00:53:00.220 Quote,

00:53:00.720 right,

00:53:01.000 let's talk science,

00:53:02.260 real science,

00:53:03.000 not the ideological

00:53:03.800 hand-waving

00:53:04.600 Walsh's peddling.

00:53:05.820 I've read the studies,

00:53:06.740 I've seen the data,

00:53:07.520 and here's the truth.

00:53:08.400 The long-term effects

00:53:09.280 of gender-affirming care

00:53:10.180 on children

00:53:10.580 are anything but settled.

00:53:12.380 That's the problem.

00:53:13.480 Anyone pretending

00:53:14.080 we have complete understanding

00:53:15.300 of the consequences

00:53:15.940 is lying to you.

00:53:17.240 When it comes

00:53:17.620 to irreversible interventions,

00:53:18.920 hormone blockers,

00:53:19.660 surgeries,

00:53:20.100 or sterilization,

00:53:20.920 we have a duty

00:53:21.860 to stop and scrutinize

00:53:23.100 before charging ahead.

00:53:24.740 Protecting children

00:53:25.340 means ensuring

00:53:26.000 we don't sacrifice

00:53:27.220 their future health,

00:53:28.120 fertility,

00:53:28.560 or mental well-being

00:53:29.320 on the altar of ideology.

00:53:30.920 Science demands caution,

00:53:32.140 not dogma.

00:53:33.380 Gender dysphoria

00:53:33.960 is real

00:53:34.480 and deserves compassion

00:53:35.340 and treatment,

00:53:35.880 but pumping kids

00:53:36.560 full of hormones

00:53:37.120 are steering them

00:53:37.640 towards permanent surgeries

00:53:38.520 before they're even

00:53:39.240 old enough to vote.

00:53:40.440 That's not compassion,

00:53:41.400 that's reckless.

00:53:41.980 If Walsh were serious

00:53:42.900 about protecting kids,

00:53:44.120 he'd lead with nuance

00:53:45.080 and evidence,

00:53:46.580 not sensationalist rhetoric.

00:53:48.600 Instead,

00:53:48.960 his approach

00:53:49.340 polarizes the debate

00:53:50.420 and shuts down

00:53:51.060 honest inquiry.

00:53:52.380 So let me be clear.

00:53:53.680 We're not saying never,

00:53:55.120 but we are saying not now.

00:53:57.280 Science should guide policy,

00:53:58.920 and right now

00:53:59.400 the science says slow down.

00:54:04.340 No, I'm saying never,

00:54:06.660 David.

00:54:07.460 I'm not saying slow down.

00:54:08.880 I'm saying stop.

00:54:10.000 I'm saying stop

00:54:10.820 and never start again.

00:54:12.380 That's what I'm saying.

00:54:13.840 That's what those of us

00:54:14.640 who are sane

00:54:15.280 and have functional

00:54:16.040 moral compasses

00:54:17.060 are saying.

00:54:17.820 You know,

00:54:19.600 what I just read

00:54:20.320 is exactly

00:54:21.000 the kind of attitude

00:54:21.740 that put us

00:54:23.280 in this position

00:54:24.100 in the first place.

00:54:25.060 This is precisely

00:54:25.840 the reason

00:54:26.460 why we're in a situation

00:54:27.540 where we have to pass

00:54:28.360 a federal ban

00:54:29.120 on butchering children

00:54:29.980 to begin with.

00:54:31.300 It's not because

00:54:32.220 of the radicals

00:54:33.180 who are passionately

00:54:33.980 in favor of

00:54:34.700 sexually mutilating minors.

00:54:36.620 Yes,

00:54:36.920 they're the ones

00:54:37.340 who actively push

00:54:38.040 the agenda,

00:54:38.760 but there aren't

00:54:39.660 enough of them

00:54:40.400 to accomplish anything.

00:54:42.060 There aren't enough

00:54:42.900 true believers

00:54:43.740 in gender ideology.

00:54:44.760 There are very few

00:54:46.540 actual true believers

00:54:48.060 in gender ideology.

00:54:49.780 Only the most

00:54:50.740 hopelessly deluded

00:54:51.800 actually believe

00:54:52.940 in the doctrines

00:54:54.060 of gender ideology

00:54:55.700 and therefore

00:54:56.720 actively push it.

00:54:58.260 They aren't numerous

00:54:59.160 enough or powerful enough

00:55:00.440 in order to get us here.

00:55:01.980 It required a lot

00:55:03.180 of people

00:55:03.660 with this guy's attitude.

00:55:05.400 It required many,

00:55:06.300 many people

00:55:06.740 who should know better

00:55:07.960 but lack the spine,

00:55:10.100 lack the common sense

00:55:11.040 to say,

00:55:11.860 no,

00:55:12.300 absolutely not.

00:55:13.520 This is not happening.

00:55:15.800 We won't let you do this.

00:55:19.200 Instead,

00:55:20.280 so many people

00:55:21.040 took this approach.

00:55:22.840 They said,

00:55:23.760 well,

00:55:24.140 I don't know.

00:55:24.700 I mean,

00:55:25.480 I'm not sure about this.

00:55:26.780 The science isn't settled.

00:55:28.400 I think we need more studies.

00:55:29.680 Let's slow down.

00:55:30.660 Let's just see.

00:55:33.020 That is precisely

00:55:34.260 the attitude

00:55:34.740 that has allowed

00:55:35.600 thousands of children

00:55:36.620 to be permanently

00:55:37.520 disfigured

00:55:38.360 and physically destroyed.

00:55:41.200 So let me say this.

00:55:42.620 I don't care

00:55:43.740 about what you call

00:55:45.760 settled science

00:55:46.840 or unsettled science.

00:55:48.180 I don't care.

00:55:49.340 What the hell does it mean

00:55:50.520 for the science

00:55:51.320 to be settled anyway?

00:55:53.580 All it means in practice

00:55:54.880 is that a bunch

00:55:55.620 of billion-dollar organizations

00:55:57.060 with a financial stake

00:55:58.360 in the issue

00:55:58.980 have come out

00:55:59.940 and all agreed

00:56:00.760 that a certain thing

00:56:02.560 is so

00:56:03.360 or isn't so.

00:56:05.380 Science is settled,

00:56:06.900 practically speaking now,

00:56:08.560 by a majority vote

00:56:09.900 of self-appointed experts

00:56:11.100 who are financially incentivized

00:56:13.100 to come to that conclusion.

00:56:16.260 I don't care

00:56:16.980 what they say

00:56:17.600 is settled.

00:56:19.340 And this is a real paradox

00:56:20.620 for people

00:56:21.120 who still want

00:56:21.780 to trust the experts

00:56:22.800 and talk about

00:56:23.580 settled science

00:56:24.700 and yet

00:56:25.200 who at the same time

00:56:26.780 want to take

00:56:28.460 kind of the middle

00:56:29.000 of the road

00:56:29.600 approach here,

00:56:30.680 the kind of slow down

00:56:31.620 approach

00:56:32.080 to gender butchery.

00:56:34.360 The paradox

00:56:35.060 is that

00:56:35.660 the so-called experts,

00:56:37.200 many of the

00:56:38.280 major medical organizations,

00:56:40.000 many of the largest

00:56:40.700 and most allegedly

00:56:41.380 reputable hospitals

00:56:42.340 in the country

00:56:42.780 all came out

00:56:43.520 within the last few years

00:56:44.360 and said that,

00:56:45.300 yes,

00:56:45.520 it's a great idea

00:56:46.500 to sterilize

00:56:47.340 and castrate children.

00:56:49.440 They didn't just say

00:56:50.440 that it's a great idea,

00:56:51.420 they've been doing it.

00:56:53.120 So,

00:56:53.560 if your position

00:56:54.560 is that the science

00:56:55.640 isn't settled

00:56:56.400 and we should slow down

00:56:57.540 and do more studies,

00:56:59.080 then you are already

00:57:00.360 contradicting

00:57:01.400 the so-called experts.

00:57:02.780 You are already

00:57:03.640 in a position

00:57:04.820 where you don't

00:57:05.640 trust them.

00:57:06.220 If you take

00:57:08.180 any position

00:57:08.820 other than,

00:57:10.000 yes,

00:57:10.360 let's start pumping

00:57:11.220 chemicals into 10-year-olds

00:57:12.300 who say they're

00:57:12.720 the opposite sex,

00:57:13.620 if you take

00:57:14.040 any position

00:57:14.520 other than that,

00:57:15.500 you are now

00:57:15.980 officially staking out

00:57:17.260 ground in direct

00:57:18.220 opposition to many

00:57:19.960 of the organizations

00:57:20.720 that claim to

00:57:21.400 represent science.

00:57:23.280 And you should

00:57:24.260 because those

00:57:26.180 organizations have

00:57:27.000 destroyed their

00:57:27.760 credibility in a way

00:57:28.700 that can never

00:57:29.480 be repaired.

00:57:31.880 But what that means

00:57:32.920 is that you can't

00:57:33.620 then fall back

00:57:34.560 on the let's do

00:57:35.840 more studies thing

00:57:37.060 because who the hell

00:57:38.080 do you think

00:57:38.440 is doing the studies?

00:57:39.500 Who's funding them?

00:57:41.380 It's the very

00:57:42.060 organizations and

00:57:42.980 groups whose

00:57:43.420 fundamental credibility

00:57:44.600 you have already

00:57:45.920 rejected and for

00:57:47.800 good reason.

00:57:51.020 Because by the way,

00:57:52.240 we could talk about

00:57:52.900 how, well,

00:57:53.480 there is not really

00:57:54.100 a consensus of the

00:57:54.880 experts.

00:57:55.360 There's plenty of

00:57:55.740 organizations who

00:57:56.300 don't agree with this

00:57:56.920 and we talked about

00:57:57.440 in the opening.

00:57:57.900 But it's also true

00:57:59.320 that especially in

00:58:00.300 this country,

00:58:01.680 a huge number

00:58:02.680 of the once

00:58:03.900 reputable,

00:58:04.840 once we thought

00:58:05.540 credible medical

00:58:06.340 organizations have

00:58:07.540 come out and

00:58:08.020 endorsed this.

00:58:10.140 Like, we are

00:58:11.100 disagreeing with a

00:58:13.280 huge number of

00:58:14.400 medical organizations

00:58:15.920 and so-called

00:58:16.720 medical experts

00:58:17.400 and hospitals.

00:58:20.640 It's important to

00:58:21.520 acknowledge that.

00:58:22.920 It's scary to

00:58:23.900 acknowledge it

00:58:24.460 because then you're

00:58:25.020 acknowledging that,

00:58:25.640 wow, these people

00:58:26.200 are, we can't trust

00:58:27.800 them about anything.

00:58:28.420 I mean, they got

00:58:30.040 this wrong?

00:58:32.080 How could we,

00:58:32.900 they, they think

00:58:34.720 that we, that there

00:58:36.440 are scenarios where

00:58:37.900 we should try to

00:58:38.680 turn a boy into a

00:58:39.940 girl?

00:58:40.820 How could I listen

00:58:41.660 to you about

00:58:42.040 literally anything?

00:58:43.120 I mean, if you go

00:58:44.100 to, if I go to you

00:58:44.720 and you tell me I

00:58:45.280 have the flu, how

00:58:46.260 can I even trust

00:58:46.900 that?

00:58:48.760 Well, yeah.

00:58:50.320 Yeah.

00:58:51.240 I mean, that's the

00:58:52.240 situation we're in.

00:58:53.980 Hate to tell you.

00:58:56.800 But none of that

00:58:57.900 even matters.

00:58:58.420 Anyway, because

00:58:59.140 studies aren't

00:59:00.200 necessary.

00:59:01.520 I don't need any

00:59:02.160 study to tell me

00:59:03.380 that we shouldn't

00:59:04.020 castrate and

00:59:04.640 sterilize children.

00:59:05.580 In order to study

00:59:06.640 such a practice,

00:59:07.740 we have to first

00:59:08.660 do it to children

00:59:09.780 and then wait

00:59:10.780 around to see

00:59:11.340 how it turns out.

00:59:12.860 That's how you

00:59:13.280 study it.

00:59:15.040 Children are not

00:59:15.800 lab rats for

00:59:16.780 medical experimentation.

00:59:18.060 If you are a

00:59:18.560 decent human being

00:59:19.320 with a functioning

00:59:20.000 brain, again,

00:59:21.180 you understand

00:59:22.000 intuitively that

00:59:23.560 mutilating children

00:59:24.480 is always wrong

00:59:25.640 100% of the time

00:59:26.840 under any and all

00:59:27.960 circumstances.

00:59:30.420 The other side

00:59:31.440 of this debate

00:59:32.000 hasn't come up

00:59:32.840 with an even

00:59:33.280 halfway plausible

00:59:34.460 reason why it

00:59:36.980 would ever be

00:59:37.540 medically necessary

00:59:38.480 to inflict this

00:59:39.340 treatment on

00:59:39.780 children, even in

00:59:40.620 theory.

00:59:41.740 Their entire

00:59:42.580 argument is,

00:59:43.240 hey, you know,

00:59:44.080 maybe it will help

00:59:45.020 kids in some

00:59:45.820 unspecified way if

00:59:47.160 we permanently

00:59:47.700 disfigure them.

00:59:48.960 Let's do it to

00:59:49.780 thousands of them

00:59:50.340 and find out.

00:59:50.920 If I have to

00:59:52.760 explain to you

00:59:53.540 why that reasoning

00:59:54.360 is deeply

00:59:55.180 flawed, you are

00:59:56.700 not a serious

00:59:57.280 person and you're

00:59:58.880 not even worth

00:59:59.420 talking to.

01:00:01.220 We got into

01:00:02.020 this position in

01:00:02.700 the first place

01:00:03.240 because so many

01:00:03.880 people were not

01:00:04.600 willing to listen

01:00:05.300 to the testimony

01:00:06.060 of their own

01:00:07.000 common sense.

01:00:09.380 Maybe it's because

01:00:10.160 they were too

01:00:10.540 afraid.

01:00:10.960 Maybe it's because

01:00:11.480 they didn't care

01:00:12.100 enough because they

01:00:13.940 weren't the ones

01:00:14.480 being mutilated.

01:00:15.640 Because, like,

01:00:16.020 something tells me

01:00:16.680 that they would not

01:00:18.300 have accepted this

01:00:19.120 logic if it

01:00:19.780 applied to them.

01:00:21.340 Okay?

01:00:21.660 If the medical

01:00:22.320 establishment came

01:00:23.240 to you and said,

01:00:24.580 we think it'll

01:00:25.700 benefit you if we

01:00:26.840 lock you in a cage

01:00:28.040 and feed you dog

01:00:28.920 food for the next

01:00:29.540 six months,

01:00:30.800 something tells me

01:00:31.860 you would not say,

01:00:33.600 well, okay, I mean,

01:00:34.720 the science isn't

01:00:35.340 settled on that yet.

01:00:36.700 It might benefit me

01:00:37.960 in some unknown way.

01:00:39.080 Let's go ahead and

01:00:39.720 do it and see how

01:00:40.440 it turns out.

01:00:41.240 More data is needed

01:00:42.240 after all.

01:00:44.420 You wouldn't say

01:00:45.240 that.

01:00:46.940 You would say,

01:00:48.120 uh, no.

01:00:49.120 What?

01:00:49.980 I'm not doing that.

01:00:50.800 Are you crazy?

01:00:52.240 No.

01:00:54.280 The medical

01:00:54.960 establishment,

01:00:55.840 now, they might

01:00:56.380 rightly point out

01:00:57.260 to you that,

01:00:58.240 well, you have

01:00:59.220 no proof.

01:01:00.000 You have no studies

01:01:00.980 of your own.

01:01:02.160 You can't prove

01:01:03.180 that it won't

01:01:03.840 benefit you to be

01:01:04.600 locked in a cage

01:01:05.240 and fed dog food.

01:01:06.520 You can't demonstrate

01:01:07.780 with data and research

01:01:09.140 that such a procedure

01:01:09.960 would be unhelpful.

01:01:12.700 You've never even

01:01:13.440 locked any other

01:01:14.040 person in a cage

01:01:14.700 and fed them dog food.

01:01:15.200 How do you know?

01:01:15.880 They could make

01:01:18.720 that point,

01:01:19.560 but you would

01:01:20.120 not be persuaded

01:01:20.880 because your basic

01:01:23.100 common sense tells you

01:01:24.360 that there is nothing

01:01:25.000 to be gained

01:01:25.720 from something like that.

01:01:27.400 You know ahead of time

01:01:28.800 with no data,

01:01:30.480 with no research,

01:01:31.520 with no studies,

01:01:32.800 that a countless

01:01:34.200 number of things

01:01:35.080 are harmful and bad

01:01:36.360 and shouldn't be done.

01:01:37.080 There's countless,

01:01:39.040 infinite number of things

01:01:40.480 that you know

01:01:41.240 without a shred of data,

01:01:43.960 without one study,

01:01:45.200 you still know it's bad.

01:01:48.140 Have you ever read

01:01:49.020 a study that proves

01:01:49.940 it's a bad idea

01:01:50.740 to bathe in gasoline

01:01:51.780 or to shave

01:01:54.560 with a chainsaw?

01:01:56.480 How much research

01:01:57.560 has been done

01:01:58.060 on those questions?

01:01:59.560 The science isn't settled,

01:02:00.980 folks.

01:02:01.980 How can you know

01:02:02.800 for sure?

01:02:03.260 Well,

01:02:06.100 you know

01:02:06.660 because you aren't insane,

01:02:08.900 because you are

01:02:10.280 a human being

01:02:10.860 with a mind

01:02:11.580 and a basic capacity

01:02:12.960 for discernment.

01:02:14.740 That's how you know.

01:02:17.380 That's also how we know

01:02:18.560 that chemically castrating

01:02:19.640 and sterilizing children

01:02:20.700 is an act of abject evil.

01:02:23.580 We know it

01:02:24.660 because we know it.

01:02:28.060 Because to not know it

01:02:29.640 is to be insane.

01:02:31.040 That's all we need to say

01:02:34.660 or should have ever

01:02:36.660 needed to say.

01:02:39.280 If not for people

01:02:40.700 like our friend David

01:02:42.080 and the many people

01:02:43.760 like him

01:02:44.220 who are all today

01:02:45.700 unfortunately canceled.

01:02:49.520 That'll do it for the show today.

01:02:50.240 Thanks for watching.

01:02:50.740 Thanks for listening.

01:02:51.260 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:02:51.920 Have a great day.

01:02:52.800 Godspeed.

01:02:53.120 Have a great day.

The Matt Walsh Show - November 26, 2024

Ep. 1494 - The Supreme Court Showdown That Could End Child Mutilation Forever

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