Ep. 1498 - Matt Walsh Speaks In Front Of The Supreme Court Before Historic Hearing
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Summary
This week, the Supreme Court begins hearing arguments in a case that began here in Tennessee when a law was passed that bans the child gender transition, gender mutilation of children. And now, that case is in the court, and we'll see what happens.
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It's a big week this week. The Supreme Court is going to begin hearing arguments in a case that
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began here in Tennessee when we passed a law that bans the child gender transition,
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gender mutilation of children. And now that case is in the Supreme Court.
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I feel, we'll see what happens, but I feel uncharacteristically optimistic with the makeup
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of this court and them hearing a case like this, that we could get a very favorable ruling that
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will then lead eventually, or at least open up the possibility for children to be protected from
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this form of brutality all across the nation. So I'm not here today, actually. I'm in DC. I'll be
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speaking at a rally. I did speak at a rally, I guess by the time you watch this, the Do No Harm
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Rally, the Do No Harm Organization is putting on a rally outside the Supreme Court. And I addressed
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All right, great. Thank you guys. We are all here on this cold day because we recognize
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three very basic truths. First, that biology is real. It is immutable. It is not subject to the
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whims of any individual or government or medical organization. Men are men. Women are women.
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That's all there is to it. You cannot change a person's biological identity. You cannot change
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their sex and you should not try. Second, that the most essential and fundamental duty of any
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society is to protect their children. A country that cannot or will not protect its children is a
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country that deserves to die and will. Children are innocent and helpless. They know very little
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about themselves, very little about the world around them. They rely on us for clarity and guidance
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and protection. They trust us, the adults, implicitly. So when they're and scared, they look
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to us to be the ones who light the way and lead them down the right and safe path. It is our moral
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obligation to be the source of wisdom and security that they need and that they deserve. If we will not
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fulfill that obligation, then we are worse than useless. These are the truths that bring us to this spot
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on this day, that we have a duty to protect our children. We affirm these truths. We call the Supreme
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Court to affirm them, too. Now, the other side claims that this is a case about rights. They say that the
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Tennessee law infringes on the rights of so-called trans kids. There are a few problems with that claim.
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They are abuse victims. Second, the law in Tennessee isn't banning kids from doing anything. It's
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banning doctors from causing permanent damage to kids. This is a ban targeting doctors and parents
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who are abusive and who are themselves targeting children. So what the trans activists, what the
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people over there are actually claiming is not that kids have a right to be castrated, but that doctors
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have the right to castrate them. They are fighting for the right of adults.
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That's what all those people over there are fighting for. Now, third, finally, with all that
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said, I actually agree with the premise, sort of. This case is about the rights of children. It's about
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the right of a child to be protected from the... That's what it's about. Children have the constitutional
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right, the human right, the God-given right to live and grow and learn about themselves and the world
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without being indoctrinated and exploited by people who reject the fundamental realities of
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existence. Children have a right to go through phases, to have moments of... in their own bodies,
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just like every generation of children before them, without that... being seized upon as a pretense to do...
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to their bodies. So to the trans activists over there claiming that this is all about the rights
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of children, I say again, yes, you're right, it is. They have a right to be protected from you.
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Children have a right to be protected from all of those people over there who want to...
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And they will be. They are going to lose. They are losing right now. We are not going to let them...
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This case is just the beginning of the fight. It is not the end. We are not going to rest until
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every child is protected until... That's what we're fighting for. And we will not stop until we
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ConsumerAccess.org. I had the opportunity to testify at a House committee hearing to voice my support
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for legislation banning the castration and mutilation of children in Tennessee. Now,
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I've addressed school boards in the past, as you know, but this was my first time in front of any
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kind of legislative committee. So it was an interesting learning experience, kind of like
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my own schoolhouse rock sort of experience. And one of the key differences here is that in my school
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board speeches, I've spoken out against policies and measures that the boards were wanting to put
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into place or had already put into place. In this case, however, I was speaking in favor of a bill
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that the majority of the legislature has already expressed support for. So I didn't need to convince
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them of what they already believe or urge them to do what they're already going to do, but rather my
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plan was simply to add my voice of support as a citizen of the state. Now, you may be understandably
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concerned based on that description that my appearance in front of this committee must have
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been rather boring and lacking the kind of fireworks that you might expect and hope for.
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Well, allow me to allay those fears because fortunately for you, there were a few Democrats
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in the room who, though on the losing side of this issue, were still determined to use my appearance as
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an opportunity to try and score some points with their own base. So after I delivered my brief remarks
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and all the other witnesses, there were three others on the anti-mutilation side and four
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on the pro-mutilation side, they had their turns also to speak. And then the lawmakers on the
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committee had the chance to ask us questions. And the first question came from a Republican who had
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a very fair and relevant query about the oft-repeated claim, which we also heard from other witnesses
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during the testimonies, that medically affirming quote-unquote trans-identified youth is necessary
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to decrease their suicide rate. And because this is the thing that got everything kicked off,
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I want to play this clip for you. It's a little bit long, but it's also, it's an important point
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too. So here's my answer to his question. We've heard in the news last week and even today that
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it's pro-life to vote against this bill. We've heard that suicides are prevalent
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and suicide has impacted my family. So I'm sensitive when I hear something like that.
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I've read some of the stuff that you've done and I was wondering, can you speak to the statistics
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of mental health and suicidal tendencies for the people who have gone through transition or for
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people who have not? In your studies, from what I've read, can you speak to that?
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Sure. Well, the claim that, you know, doing the chemical castration drugs or surgery or hormonal
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intervention, the claim that this prevents suicide or has positive psychological effects
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down the line is utterly, totally baseless. There are no credible long-term studies that
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bear that out. And one of the reasons for that is that there couldn't possibly be any credible
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long-term studies because we've never done this to kids on this scale ever before in history.
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So this current, shall we say, crop of children, they are the guinea pigs. This is all experimental.
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We're sort of trying it out on them to see if it works. Now they have attempted a few times to do
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studies. And the interesting thing is that the World Professional Association of Transgender
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Health, WPATH, which is a radical far-left pro-trans organization, they commissioned a study
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to try to prove that hormones and puberty blockers decreased suicide rates among trans-identified
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youth. And even in their own study, they found that they couldn't prove it. They couldn't
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make that link because it's just not possible to do.
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The other thing I would mention, too, is that, you know, the number of trans-identified youth
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has skyrocketed in recent years. We're talking about exponential 10x, 20x growth, just huge
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numbers have increased. And what we hear from the pro-trans side is that, well, this is not a social
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contagion. It's just that, you know, there's always been this many trans people. It's just that they
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were not in an affirming environment before in history. And so they couldn't come out. And now for
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the first time, trans people have the ability to live their truth, so to speak. Well, if that's the
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case, and there have always been these sort of like millions of trans people, and if it's also true
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that if we don't affirm them, that it would cause them to commit suicide, then we should be able to
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look back in history and find just this unbroken, incredible epidemic of children mysteriously
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killing themselves because they weren't being affirmed as trans. And what you find is that that
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didn't exist. I mean, the youth suicide rate has increased exponentially alongside trans-affirmation.
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So trans-affirmation causes the suicide rate, not the other way around. Last thing I'll note is that
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the suicide rate among trans-identified people is sky high. It remains sky high. All the data shows
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this. It remains sky high even after surgery. And in fact, in the most reliable data that we have,
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it's years after surgery when suicidality is the highest for trans-identified people.
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So you see all that. I make a number of claims and arguments in that answer,
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just as I did in my initial remarks, that the Democrats on the panel had the opportunity to
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refute. If indeed I was wrong about anything I said and can be refuted, then they had the chance
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to do it. But they couldn't refute it. They had nothing to say, which, as we've learned about
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Democrats, will certainly not stop them from talking. So the next question, or what pretended
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to be a question, came from a greasy little hack named Caleb Hemmer, who rather than discuss the issue
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at hand, instead decided to try and smear me with that Media Matters hit piece from my time as a
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shock jock morning host 15 years ago. What does that have to do with anything? What did he think
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he would accomplish with this? Well, we'll find out. So I found it interesting. One of our
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people testified today that they had their gender affirming surgery at 16. And I know you in former
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comments mentioned this on your blog. At about 16, you're an adult who's mature and can make decisions.
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You're that at 16. I don't care what anybody says. Even going so far as to say, you know, 16 people,
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when you're 16, you should be married and could be pregnant or should be pregnant. So I'm curious if
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16 is an adult, in your view. Why does this bill have the minor defined as 18?
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Yeah, that's a hit piece you took from Media Matters, from something when I was a radio host
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13, 14 years ago, in my early 20s. It's also not an accurate reflection of what I actually said.
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I was talking about the fact that people tended to marry young historically, and that's all that that
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was about. How does that relate to this subject?
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Just curious of your definition of if you feel like people are adults at 16, should...
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Well, people are adults at 18. But actually, your brain is not fully developed until you're 25.
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So we should be having a conversation about whether we should even be doing these surgeries
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to people at 18. But certainly before 18, it's absurd. I mean, do you think that a 16-year-old
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can meaningfully consent to having their body parts removed?
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We do not. Yeah, we ask the questions. It's not...
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So, that was one gloriously awkward silence. Even more so for those of us in the room. Actually,
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you can't see it from that camera angle on the clip exactly. But Caleb sat back away from the
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microphone when I asked him that question, and he kind of looked off to the side, almost like he
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was trying to pretend he didn't hear the question. It was a bizarre scene. But not so bizarre when you
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consider that I had asked a question that Caleb Hemmer simply could not answer. He obviously couldn't
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say no, that 16-year-olds can't consent to having body parts removed, because then he'd be agreeing
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with me and with the legislation. He doesn't want to do that. But he also didn't want to come out and
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say yes, that 16-year-olds can consent, because that sounds horrific and insane when said,
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out loud. And it puts him in the position of having to explicitly defend a totally indefensible
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proposition. You'll notice that leftists, they often find themselves in this kind of situation.
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They hold many views that they cannot say out loud. Their actual positions on the issues are often so
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deranged, so inconceivably gross, so morally vacuous and incoherent, that you can defeat them
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in an argument simply by asking them to clearly state their own premise. Of course, what this
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means is that leftists like, you know, leftists themselves, leftists like Caleb Hemmer, they
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themselves realize how evil their own policies are. They are deliberately pushing things that they
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recognize as unspeakably wicked, which is why they will not speak it out loud. And this puts people
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like Caleb Hemmer somewhere below mere partisan hacks. You've got partisan hacks, and then it's
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below them that you have the Caleb Hemmers of the world. Because these are people who are consciously
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evil, which also explains why they would resort to smear tactics against a private citizen at a
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legislative hearing. Keep in mind, by the way, that I was not there as an author of the bill,
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nor was I testifying as some sort of accredited expert. I didn't stand up there and say, I'm a
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medical expert and a doctor, and this is what, in fact, I introduced myself as I'm a citizen of
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Tennessee, I'm a husband and a father, and this is how I feel about this. A citizen of Tennessee who
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supports the bill. And this is supposed to be a democracy, they tell me, right? So the point is that
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even if they could succeed in tearing me down and embarrassing me, which sadly for them, they didn't,
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how would that remotely come close to proving that the legislation is bad?
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Now, if you're wondering how Caleb Hemmer will recover from this humiliation, well, he'll do it,
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or he'll try to do it, the most weaselly and dishonest way possible, of course. So shortly after
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the hearing, Ben Shapiro posted that full exchange that he just watched, and he posted it to Twitter.
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Hemmer responded to the post with a link to a different video, which he urged people to watch
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instead to see what, quote, really went down. Now, that video was an edited montage by an obscure
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left-wing propaganda rag called the Tennessee Holler. And what they did is they took all the
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questions that the, and not really questions, but statements that the Democrats on the committee
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hearing made to me, and they spliced all that together, and then cut out most of my responses.
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And then anything else that may have been especially embarrassing for the Democrats,
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and pasted all the rest of it together with a bunch of very obvious jump cuts and posted that.
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So Hemmer, therefore, is actually claiming that an edited montage without my responses is a more
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accurate reflection of what actually transpired than the full unedited clip. That's how shameless
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this guy is. By the way, if you're concerned about his lack of honesty and this lack of honesty from an
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elected official, or perhaps you're not satisfied with his refusal to answer my simple question,
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you could always reach out to him on any of his social media channels. And look, I'm not telling
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you, I want to be very clear about this. I am not telling you that I want you all to spam his Twitter
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and his Facebook and Instagram, that I want hundreds of comments and everything attacking him.
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I'm not. I could not tell you to do that. I couldn't tell you to do that. I just want to make sure that you
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have his information so that you can reach out to him to express your concerns. Again, he's an elected
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official. So you can find him on Twitter at Caleb Hemmer, that's C-A-L-E-B-H-E-M-M-E-R, or Instagram the
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same way. Then you go to Facebook, you have Facebook.com slash Caleb Hemmer T-N. And then
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Caleb Hemmer.com slash contact will take you to his website, and that's the contact information for his
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office. So again, if you have any concerns about the behavior of this public official,
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or if you really want to know, like, does he think that 16-year-olds can consent to having
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body parts removed, he still hasn't answered that question. But I bet he'd love an opportunity to
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answer it. And I think he would want to hear from you. He'd be very glad to hear from you.
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So you can always do that if you want. Now there's more though. The next question came from
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Democrat John Ray Clemens, who also had no interest in talking about the substance of
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the issue. Instead, with the slander already covered by Caleb Hemmer, Clemens went to the
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Democrats' second favorite tool in the box, which is credentialism. Let's watch.
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Can you give us a summary of your educational background or your healthcare education experience?
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Your educational background. I'm just curious. You've testified as to a lot of your own research.
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I'm curious for what purpose you do that and what background you have to qualify you to speak to
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Well, my background that qualifies me to speak to this is that I'm a human being with a brain
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and common sense and I have a soul. And so therefore, I think it's a really bad idea to
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chemically castrate children. That is my experience. Also, I did, now it's true, I didn't
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go to college, but I did go to school long enough to learn how to read so I can read the data for
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And for what purpose do you conduct your research and use this brain of yours?
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I use it for the purpose of trying to protect children from being castrated and mutilated.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You don't use it to get clicks on your publication?
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Are you using it right now to try to get clicks with this interaction?
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I really like the idea of drawing attention to the fact that this is happening to children.
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I know you seem to find it very amusing. I don't.
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Guess what qualifies me to speak up against chopping body parts off of kids?
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Which credentials give me the right to form an opinion about the sterilization of middle schoolers?
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I wonder what John Ray Clemens might have said if I told him that I'm also against drowning bags of
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puppies in the river. I'm not even a big dog guy, but I don't think that you should put puppies in a
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bag and drown them in the river. If I were to tell him that, would he have demanded to know what
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veterinarian school I attended? This apparently comes as a shock to Mr. Clemens, but using your
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brain and your conscience, it's not the kind of job that requires a resume or professional
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references. That's something you're supposed to be doing all the time, especially when it comes to
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this particular issue. But this is all they have. They cannot challenge me on the merits. They cannot
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debate me on the substance of the issue. They cannot explain why I'm wrong. So instead, they will
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make the case that whether I'm wrong or right, I shouldn't be saying anything at all.
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That is real. That's the entire argument. That is the only argument I have heard from these people
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since I started talking about this issue years ago. The only argument they have, it really only
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boils down to, you shouldn't be talking about this. Yet they can't even make that case convincingly.
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So instead, they're left with the bumbling, ridiculous mess you just witnessed.
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Now, there were more questions, or questions, I should say. After the exchange we just saw there,
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another Democrat representative started reading my tweets where I advocate for capital punishment
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for drug traffickers. Now, what in the world could that possibly have to do with the bill in question?
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Well, he couldn't explain that. And I didn't have a chance to point out how irrelevant it was
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because they wouldn't let me respond either. So after that happened, they basically got tired of me
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answering. And so for most of the rest of the time, it was just them talking to me. And then
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if I try to speak, they bang the gavel. No, this is not, this is not, it's not time for responding.
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It's democracy in action, folks. Isn't it inspiring? But this is all predictable, of course.
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I don't want you to think that I was surprised or caught off guard. That was their intention. But
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unfortunately, they were using the same tactics on me that a million hacks and charlatans before them
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have already used. What I'll say to the Democrats on the committee is this. If you want to rattle me
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with smears and irrelevant out-of-context quotes and bad faith questions and accusations, etc.,
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you're going to have to try a lot harder than that. A lot harder. Or instead, instead of trying to
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get better at being gutless smear merchants and disgraceful hacks, you could instead work on
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becoming better people, better men. You could stop trying to defend the indefensible, what you
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yourself know to be indefensible. You could stop trading in your soul for the sake of promoting and
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defending the most depraved ideological agenda mankind has ever known. And instead, you could try to be
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men of dignity and integrity and moral courage. That's the other option. It's an option that will work out a lot
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better for you in a lot of ways, including come Judgment Day, I would add. And in the meantime,
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another bonus, maybe you won't make such asses of yourself in any more committee hearings. Just a thought.