The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1498 - Matt Walsh Speaks In Front Of The Supreme Court Before Historic Hearing

00:00:00.000 It's a big week this week. The Supreme Court is going to begin hearing arguments in a case that

00:00:07.340 began here in Tennessee when we passed a law that bans the child gender transition,

00:00:15.260 gender mutilation of children. And now that case is in the Supreme Court.

00:00:20.100 I feel, we'll see what happens, but I feel uncharacteristically optimistic with the makeup

00:00:26.740 of this court and them hearing a case like this, that we could get a very favorable ruling that

00:00:31.480 will then lead eventually, or at least open up the possibility for children to be protected from

00:00:36.300 this form of brutality all across the nation. So I'm not here today, actually. I'm in DC. I'll be

00:00:44.020 speaking at a rally. I did speak at a rally, I guess by the time you watch this, the Do No Harm

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00:02:36.940 All right, great. Thank you guys. We are all here on this cold day because we recognize

00:02:43.740 three very basic truths. First, that biology is real. It is immutable. It is not subject to the

00:02:51.820 whims of any individual or government or medical organization. Men are men. Women are women. 0.70

00:02:58.180 That's all there is to it. You cannot change a person's biological identity. You cannot change

00:03:02.800 their sex and you should not try. Second, that the most essential and fundamental duty of any 0.98

00:03:08.560 society is to protect their children. A country that cannot or will not protect its children is a

00:03:15.100 country that deserves to die and will. Children are innocent and helpless. They know very little 0.94

00:03:21.320 about themselves, very little about the world around them. They rely on us for clarity and guidance

00:03:27.160 and protection. They trust us, the adults, implicitly. So when they're and scared, they look

00:03:32.780 to us to be the ones who light the way and lead them down the right and safe path. It is our moral

00:03:38.600 obligation to be the source of wisdom and security that they need and that they deserve. If we will not

00:03:45.320 fulfill that obligation, then we are worse than useless. These are the truths that bring us to this spot

00:03:51.240 on this day, that we have a duty to protect our children. We affirm these truths. We call the Supreme

00:03:58.440 Court to affirm them, too. Now, the other side claims that this is a case about rights. They say that the

00:04:06.740 Tennessee law infringes on the rights of so-called trans kids. There are a few problems with that claim.

00:04:13.960 They are abuse victims. Second, the law in Tennessee isn't banning kids from doing anything. It's

00:04:21.680 banning doctors from causing permanent damage to kids. This is a ban targeting doctors and parents

00:04:29.280 who are abusive and who are themselves targeting children. So what the trans activists, what the 1.00

00:04:35.000 people over there are actually claiming is not that kids have a right to be castrated, but that doctors 0.91

00:04:41.180 have the right to castrate them. They are fighting for the right of adults.

00:04:50.620 That's what all those people over there are fighting for. Now, third, finally, with all that

00:04:54.460 said, I actually agree with the premise, sort of. This case is about the rights of children. It's about

00:05:00.480 the right of a child to be protected from the... That's what it's about. Children have the constitutional

00:05:08.140 right, the human right, the God-given right to live and grow and learn about themselves and the world

00:05:13.680 without being indoctrinated and exploited by people who reject the fundamental realities of

00:05:19.580 existence. Children have a right to go through phases, to have moments of... in their own bodies,

00:05:26.440 just like every generation of children before them, without that... being seized upon as a pretense to do...

00:05:33.140 to their bodies. So to the trans activists over there claiming that this is all about the rights 0.97

00:05:39.320 of children, I say again, yes, you're right, it is. They have a right to be protected from you.

00:05:46.260 Children have a right to be protected from all of those people over there who want to...

00:05:52.680 And they will be. They are going to lose. They are losing right now. We are not going to let them...

00:06:00.680 This case is just the beginning of the fight. It is not the end. We are not going to rest until

00:06:08.120 every child is protected until... That's what we're fighting for. And we will not stop until we

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00:07:13.840 ConsumerAccess.org. I had the opportunity to testify at a House committee hearing to voice my support

00:07:20.120 for legislation banning the castration and mutilation of children in Tennessee. Now,

00:07:24.660 I've addressed school boards in the past, as you know, but this was my first time in front of any

00:07:28.580 kind of legislative committee. So it was an interesting learning experience, kind of like

00:07:33.680 my own schoolhouse rock sort of experience. And one of the key differences here is that in my school

00:07:40.400 board speeches, I've spoken out against policies and measures that the boards were wanting to put

00:07:45.680 into place or had already put into place. In this case, however, I was speaking in favor of a bill

00:07:50.780 that the majority of the legislature has already expressed support for. So I didn't need to convince

00:07:55.740 them of what they already believe or urge them to do what they're already going to do, but rather my

00:07:59.980 plan was simply to add my voice of support as a citizen of the state. Now, you may be understandably

00:08:07.140 concerned based on that description that my appearance in front of this committee must have

00:08:12.380 been rather boring and lacking the kind of fireworks that you might expect and hope for.

00:08:17.060 Well, allow me to allay those fears because fortunately for you, there were a few Democrats

00:08:21.700 in the room who, though on the losing side of this issue, were still determined to use my appearance as

00:08:26.700 an opportunity to try and score some points with their own base. So after I delivered my brief remarks

00:08:32.520 and all the other witnesses, there were three others on the anti-mutilation side and four

00:08:36.960 on the pro-mutilation side, they had their turns also to speak. And then the lawmakers on the

00:08:42.500 committee had the chance to ask us questions. And the first question came from a Republican who had

00:08:46.920 a very fair and relevant query about the oft-repeated claim, which we also heard from other witnesses

00:08:52.020 during the testimonies, that medically affirming quote-unquote trans-identified youth is necessary

00:08:58.100 to decrease their suicide rate. And because this is the thing that got everything kicked off,

00:09:02.600 I want to play this clip for you. It's a little bit long, but it's also, it's an important point

00:09:07.320 too. So here's my answer to his question. We've heard in the news last week and even today that

00:09:15.820 it's pro-life to vote against this bill. We've heard that suicides are prevalent

00:09:25.660 and suicide has impacted my family. So I'm sensitive when I hear something like that.

00:09:32.600 I've read some of the stuff that you've done and I was wondering, can you speak to the statistics

00:09:38.040 of mental health and suicidal tendencies for the people who have gone through transition or for

00:09:48.400 people who have not? In your studies, from what I've read, can you speak to that?

00:09:52.380 Sure.

00:09:52.840 You recognize it.

00:09:54.020 Sure. Well, the claim that, you know, doing the chemical castration drugs or surgery or hormonal

00:10:00.280 intervention, the claim that this prevents suicide or has positive psychological effects

00:10:06.340 down the line is utterly, totally baseless. There are no credible long-term studies that

00:10:12.100 bear that out. And one of the reasons for that is that there couldn't possibly be any credible

00:10:16.020 long-term studies because we've never done this to kids on this scale ever before in history.

00:10:20.940 So this current, shall we say, crop of children, they are the guinea pigs. This is all experimental.

00:10:27.520 We're sort of trying it out on them to see if it works. Now they have attempted a few times to do

00:10:31.900 studies. And the interesting thing is that the World Professional Association of Transgender

00:10:35.240 Health, WPATH, which is a radical far-left pro-trans organization, they commissioned a study

00:10:40.860 to try to prove that hormones and puberty blockers decreased suicide rates among trans-identified

00:10:49.800 youth. And even in their own study, they found that they couldn't prove it. They couldn't

00:10:53.660 make that link because it's just not possible to do.

00:10:56.080 The other thing I would mention, too, is that, you know, the number of trans-identified youth

00:11:02.960 has skyrocketed in recent years. We're talking about exponential 10x, 20x growth, just huge

00:11:08.740 numbers have increased. And what we hear from the pro-trans side is that, well, this is not a social

00:11:15.620 contagion. It's just that, you know, there's always been this many trans people. It's just that they 1.00

00:11:19.260 were not in an affirming environment before in history. And so they couldn't come out. And now for

00:11:24.360 the first time, trans people have the ability to live their truth, so to speak. Well, if that's the 1.00

00:11:29.480 case, and there have always been these sort of like millions of trans people, and if it's also true

00:11:34.960 that if we don't affirm them, that it would cause them to commit suicide, then we should be able to

00:11:39.620 look back in history and find just this unbroken, incredible epidemic of children mysteriously

00:11:47.020 killing themselves because they weren't being affirmed as trans. And what you find is that that

00:11:51.340 didn't exist. I mean, the youth suicide rate has increased exponentially alongside trans-affirmation. 1.00

00:11:59.940 So trans-affirmation causes the suicide rate, not the other way around. Last thing I'll note is that 0.94

00:12:04.620 the suicide rate among trans-identified people is sky high. It remains sky high. All the data shows 0.99

00:12:10.920 this. It remains sky high even after surgery. And in fact, in the most reliable data that we have,

00:12:15.880 it's years after surgery when suicidality is the highest for trans-identified people.

00:12:21.960 So you see all that. I make a number of claims and arguments in that answer,

00:12:25.620 just as I did in my initial remarks, that the Democrats on the panel had the opportunity to

00:12:29.800 refute. If indeed I was wrong about anything I said and can be refuted, then they had the chance

00:12:35.280 to do it. But they couldn't refute it. They had nothing to say, which, as we've learned about

00:12:39.540 Democrats, will certainly not stop them from talking. So the next question, or what pretended

00:12:43.940 to be a question, came from a greasy little hack named Caleb Hemmer, who rather than discuss the issue

00:12:48.960 at hand, instead decided to try and smear me with that Media Matters hit piece from my time as a

00:12:54.500 shock jock morning host 15 years ago. What does that have to do with anything? What did he think

00:13:01.360 he would accomplish with this? Well, we'll find out. So I found it interesting. One of our

00:13:06.280 people testified today that they had their gender affirming surgery at 16. And I know you in former

00:13:14.340 comments mentioned this on your blog. At about 16, you're an adult who's mature and can make decisions.

00:13:20.140 You're that at 16. I don't care what anybody says. Even going so far as to say, you know, 16 people,

00:13:26.180 when you're 16, you should be married and could be pregnant or should be pregnant. So I'm curious if

00:13:32.640 16 is an adult, in your view. Why does this bill have the minor defined as 18?

00:13:41.800 Mr. Lawson recognized.

00:13:43.680 Yeah, that's a hit piece you took from Media Matters, from something when I was a radio host

00:13:49.160 13, 14 years ago, in my early 20s. It's also not an accurate reflection of what I actually said.

00:13:55.740 I was talking about the fact that people tended to marry young historically, and that's all that that

00:14:03.020 was about. How does that relate to this subject?

00:14:09.000 Just curious of your definition of if you feel like people are adults at 16, should...

00:14:14.040 Well, people are adults at 18. But actually, your brain is not fully developed until you're 25.

00:14:20.900 So we should be having a conversation about whether we should even be doing these surgeries

00:14:24.660 to people at 18. But certainly before 18, it's absurd. I mean, do you think that a 16-year-old

00:14:32.240 can meaningfully consent to having their body parts removed?

00:14:35.040 Do you? No?

00:14:47.140 We do not. Yeah, we ask the questions. It's not...

00:14:50.820 So, that was one gloriously awkward silence. Even more so for those of us in the room. Actually,

00:14:58.700 you can't see it from that camera angle on the clip exactly. But Caleb sat back away from the

00:15:03.640 microphone when I asked him that question, and he kind of looked off to the side, almost like he

00:15:07.140 was trying to pretend he didn't hear the question. It was a bizarre scene. But not so bizarre when you

00:15:12.560 consider that I had asked a question that Caleb Hemmer simply could not answer. He obviously couldn't

00:15:19.380 say no, that 16-year-olds can't consent to having body parts removed, because then he'd be agreeing

00:15:24.300 with me and with the legislation. He doesn't want to do that. But he also didn't want to come out and

00:15:27.980 say yes, that 16-year-olds can consent, because that sounds horrific and insane when said,

00:15:33.640 out loud. And it puts him in the position of having to explicitly defend a totally indefensible

00:15:38.380 proposition. You'll notice that leftists, they often find themselves in this kind of situation.

00:15:43.720 They hold many views that they cannot say out loud. Their actual positions on the issues are often so

00:15:51.140 deranged, so inconceivably gross, so morally vacuous and incoherent, that you can defeat them

00:15:57.340 in an argument simply by asking them to clearly state their own premise. Of course, what this

00:16:03.220 means is that leftists like, you know, leftists themselves, leftists like Caleb Hemmer, they

00:16:09.620 themselves realize how evil their own policies are. They are deliberately pushing things that they

00:16:15.760 recognize as unspeakably wicked, which is why they will not speak it out loud. And this puts people

00:16:23.280 like Caleb Hemmer somewhere below mere partisan hacks. You've got partisan hacks, and then it's

00:16:29.900 below them that you have the Caleb Hemmers of the world. Because these are people who are consciously

00:16:36.380 evil, which also explains why they would resort to smear tactics against a private citizen at a

00:16:42.000 legislative hearing. Keep in mind, by the way, that I was not there as an author of the bill,

00:16:46.740 nor was I testifying as some sort of accredited expert. I didn't stand up there and say, I'm a

00:16:52.720 medical expert and a doctor, and this is what, in fact, I introduced myself as I'm a citizen of

00:16:58.860 Tennessee, I'm a husband and a father, and this is how I feel about this. A citizen of Tennessee who

00:17:04.420 supports the bill. And this is supposed to be a democracy, they tell me, right? So the point is that

00:17:09.860 even if they could succeed in tearing me down and embarrassing me, which sadly for them, they didn't,

00:17:15.100 how would that remotely come close to proving that the legislation is bad?

00:17:21.980 Now, if you're wondering how Caleb Hemmer will recover from this humiliation, well, he'll do it,

00:17:27.120 or he'll try to do it, the most weaselly and dishonest way possible, of course. So shortly after

00:17:31.540 the hearing, Ben Shapiro posted that full exchange that he just watched, and he posted it to Twitter.

00:17:37.860 Hemmer responded to the post with a link to a different video, which he urged people to watch

00:17:43.980 instead to see what, quote, really went down. Now, that video was an edited montage by an obscure

00:17:50.440 left-wing propaganda rag called the Tennessee Holler. And what they did is they took all the

00:17:55.120 questions that the, and not really questions, but statements that the Democrats on the committee

00:18:00.920 hearing made to me, and they spliced all that together, and then cut out most of my responses.

00:18:07.800 And then anything else that may have been especially embarrassing for the Democrats,

00:18:10.840 and pasted all the rest of it together with a bunch of very obvious jump cuts and posted that.

00:18:15.140 So Hemmer, therefore, is actually claiming that an edited montage without my responses is a more

00:18:21.580 accurate reflection of what actually transpired than the full unedited clip. That's how shameless

00:18:27.680 this guy is. By the way, if you're concerned about his lack of honesty and this lack of honesty from an 0.88

00:18:34.640 elected official, or perhaps you're not satisfied with his refusal to answer my simple question,

00:18:40.680 you could always reach out to him on any of his social media channels. And look, I'm not telling

00:18:44.360 you, I want to be very clear about this. I am not telling you that I want you all to spam his Twitter

00:18:50.200 and his Facebook and Instagram, that I want hundreds of comments and everything attacking him.

00:18:55.060 I'm not. I could not tell you to do that. I couldn't tell you to do that. I just want to make sure that you

00:19:02.940 have his information so that you can reach out to him to express your concerns. Again, he's an elected

00:19:07.180 official. So you can find him on Twitter at Caleb Hemmer, that's C-A-L-E-B-H-E-M-M-E-R, or Instagram the

00:19:13.940 same way. Then you go to Facebook, you have Facebook.com slash Caleb Hemmer T-N. And then

00:19:19.080 Caleb Hemmer.com slash contact will take you to his website, and that's the contact information for his

00:19:23.700 office. So again, if you have any concerns about the behavior of this public official,

00:19:29.320 or if you really want to know, like, does he think that 16-year-olds can consent to having

00:19:33.700 body parts removed, he still hasn't answered that question. But I bet he'd love an opportunity to

00:19:38.460 answer it. And I think he would want to hear from you. He'd be very glad to hear from you.

00:19:43.500 So you can always do that if you want. Now there's more though. The next question came from

00:19:48.520 Democrat John Ray Clemens, who also had no interest in talking about the substance of

00:19:53.700 the issue. Instead, with the slander already covered by Caleb Hemmer, Clemens went to the

00:19:58.540 Democrats' second favorite tool in the box, which is credentialism. Let's watch.

00:20:03.520 Can you give us a summary of your educational background or your healthcare education experience?

00:20:09.680 Mr. Walsh, you're recognized.

00:20:11.260 My experience in healthcare?

00:20:13.320 Your educational background. I'm just curious. You've testified as to a lot of your own research.

00:20:18.380 I'm curious for what purpose you do that and what background you have to qualify you to speak to

00:20:23.060 that.

00:20:23.640 Well, my background that qualifies me to speak to this is that I'm a human being with a brain

00:20:27.720 and common sense and I have a soul. And so therefore, I think it's a really bad idea to

00:20:33.020 chemically castrate children. That is my experience. Also, I did, now it's true, I didn't

00:20:39.200 go to college, but I did go to school long enough to learn how to read so I can read the data for

00:20:43.780 myself. And that's exactly what I've done.

00:20:46.060 Representative Clemens, you're right.

00:20:47.180 And for what purpose do you conduct your research and use this brain of yours?

00:20:53.200 Mr. Walsh, you're recognized. 0.89

00:20:54.400 I use it for the purpose of trying to protect children from being castrated and mutilated.

00:20:59.200 That's one of the things I try to do.

00:21:01.620 You don't use it to...

00:21:02.720 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You don't use it to get clicks on your publication?

00:21:07.820 Are you using it right now to try to get clicks with this interaction?

00:21:12.500 I really like the idea of drawing attention to the fact that this is happening to children.

00:21:21.680 I know you seem to find it very amusing. I don't.

00:21:23.580 Guess what qualifies me to speak up against chopping body parts off of kids? 0.93

00:21:28.480 Which credentials give me the right to form an opinion about the sterilization of middle schoolers?

00:21:33.440 I wonder what John Ray Clemens might have said if I told him that I'm also against drowning bags of 0.98

00:21:38.640 puppies in the river. I'm not even a big dog guy, but I don't think that you should put puppies in a

00:21:44.720 bag and drown them in the river. If I were to tell him that, would he have demanded to know what

00:21:48.420 veterinarian school I attended? This apparently comes as a shock to Mr. Clemens, but using your

00:21:53.380 brain and your conscience, it's not the kind of job that requires a resume or professional

00:21:57.760 references. That's something you're supposed to be doing all the time, especially when it comes to

00:22:01.580 this particular issue. But this is all they have. They cannot challenge me on the merits. They cannot

00:22:07.020 debate me on the substance of the issue. They cannot explain why I'm wrong. So instead, they will

00:22:11.200 make the case that whether I'm wrong or right, I shouldn't be saying anything at all.

00:22:16.200 That is real. That's the entire argument. That is the only argument I have heard from these people

00:22:21.160 since I started talking about this issue years ago. The only argument they have, it really only

00:22:27.780 boils down to, you shouldn't be talking about this. Yet they can't even make that case convincingly.

00:22:35.100 So instead, they're left with the bumbling, ridiculous mess you just witnessed. 0.53

00:22:38.480 Now, there were more questions, or questions, I should say. After the exchange we just saw there,

00:22:44.780 another Democrat representative started reading my tweets where I advocate for capital punishment

00:22:49.080 for drug traffickers. Now, what in the world could that possibly have to do with the bill in question?

00:22:57.400 Well, he couldn't explain that. And I didn't have a chance to point out how irrelevant it was

00:23:01.140 because they wouldn't let me respond either. So after that happened, they basically got tired of me

00:23:05.740 answering. And so for most of the rest of the time, it was just them talking to me. And then

00:23:10.800 if I try to speak, they bang the gavel. No, this is not, this is not, it's not time for responding.

00:23:16.440 It's democracy in action, folks. Isn't it inspiring? But this is all predictable, of course.

00:23:22.680 I don't want you to think that I was surprised or caught off guard. That was their intention. But

00:23:27.700 unfortunately, they were using the same tactics on me that a million hacks and charlatans before them

00:23:32.720 have already used. What I'll say to the Democrats on the committee is this. If you want to rattle me

00:23:37.940 with smears and irrelevant out-of-context quotes and bad faith questions and accusations, etc.,

00:23:43.500 you're going to have to try a lot harder than that. A lot harder. Or instead, instead of trying to

00:23:50.580 get better at being gutless smear merchants and disgraceful hacks, you could instead work on

00:23:56.720 becoming better people, better men. You could stop trying to defend the indefensible, what you

00:24:04.080 yourself know to be indefensible. You could stop trading in your soul for the sake of promoting and

00:24:10.780 defending the most depraved ideological agenda mankind has ever known. And instead, you could try to be

00:24:17.000 men of dignity and integrity and moral courage. That's the other option. It's an option that will work out a lot

00:24:23.800 better for you in a lot of ways, including come Judgment Day, I would add. And in the meantime,

00:24:29.540 another bonus, maybe you won't make such asses of yourself in any more committee hearings. Just a thought. 0.98

The Matt Walsh Show - December 04, 2024

Ep. 1498 - Matt Walsh Speaks In Front Of The Supreme Court Before Historic Hearing

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