The Matt Walsh Show - December 06, 2024


Ep. 1500 - Why The Left Is Really Celebrating The Murder Of A CEO


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

179.12703

Word Count

8,770

Sentence Count

551

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

The left celebrates the murder of a healthcare CEO, but why exactly are they celebrating? Plus, the father of Jordan Neely tries to cash in on his son s death by suing Daniel Penny, but should he be the one suing? And the left comes up with its most desperate smear against Pete Hegseth yet. We ll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Welch Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the left celebrates the murder of a healthcare CEO, but why exactly
00:00:04.640 are they celebrating? Many people are missing the point on this story, I think. I'll tell you
00:00:08.000 what's really going on. Plus, the father of Jordan Neely tries to cash in on his son's death by suing
00:00:12.620 Daniel Penny, but Daniel Penny should be the one suing Jordan Neely's father. I'll explain. And
00:00:17.000 the left comes up with its most desperate smear against Pete Hegseth yet. We'll talk about all
00:00:21.120 that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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00:01:56.840 Butler, there was an outpouring of very primal and vicious rage from all corners of the left,
00:02:01.980 both on social media and in the mainstream corporate outlets. And for the first time in
00:02:06.460 American history, the near assassination of a president didn't bring about a period of national
00:02:10.240 mourning or condemnations from Hollywood and academia. Instead, the overwhelming sentiment was,
00:02:15.360 in effect, that Donald Trump had it coming. It continued even after the second assassination attempt
00:02:20.880 on Trump, which led the New York Times to explain that Trump was blameworthy because he had stirred
00:02:24.900 anger among the public. And many other publications, of course, had the same basic take.
00:02:30.240 Now, obviously, blaming Trump for his own attempted assassination was always demented. But we were
00:02:36.400 supposed to believe that it was acceptable to blame Trump, at least in part, because he's such
00:02:40.540 a polarizing figure. The left insists that they aren't always this bloodthirsty. They said that they
00:02:45.860 didn't want to see every single one of their enemies get murdered in public live on national
00:02:50.540 television. Instead, they said that they just wanted to see Donald Trump get murdered in public
00:02:54.340 because he's basically Hitler. And Hitler is a special case. Once Hitler's out of the way,
00:02:59.320 they said, then they'd return to being normal, functioning citizens who don't want to murder
00:03:03.080 their enemies in cold blood all the time. Now, this is a defense that was never believable. But
00:03:09.760 after the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in Manhattan this week,
00:03:14.240 even the left is completely abandoning the whole pretense. If anything, the left seems to be gloating
00:03:20.840 over the execution of Thompson even more than the Trump assassination attempt. It's not an exaggeration
00:03:26.320 to say that, you know, we've never seen anything quite like this. They are declaring without any
00:03:31.700 hint of reservation that it's open season on anyone they don't like. They are gleefully celebrating the
00:03:37.580 horrific demise of another human being. Whether you're a politician or a business executive,
00:03:43.560 it doesn't matter. They don't want you fired. They don't want you in prison. They want you dead.
00:03:47.860 And they're being very clear about it now. Former Washington Post journalist Taylor Lorenz
00:03:52.380 couldn't have been any more explicit about this. She posted an article on her newsletter entitled,
00:03:56.900 Yes, We Want Insurance Executives Dead. She also posted an image of party balloons with the
00:04:02.340 celebratory caption, CEO down. And she wrote that while people should murder these executives,
00:04:07.820 it's normal to wish death upon them. Now, separately, in response to a news article about
00:04:12.360 how Blue Cross Blue Shield recently announced that it won't pay for anesthesia past a certain point,
00:04:17.460 Lorenz wrote, quote, and people wonder why we want these executives dead.
00:04:22.240 She also posted the name and picture of the CEO of Blue Cross Blue Shield, effectively suggesting
00:04:26.440 that someone should assassinate her. I mean, there's really no other way to interpret it.
00:04:30.300 This is the same woman who says you're a psychopath if you go outside without a mask and
00:04:34.840 raw dog the air, quote, unquote. But wishing death on healthcare executives is, you know,
00:04:40.540 completely fine, completely normal stuff. Now, I could spend the next month going through all
00:04:44.600 the reactions like this from the left. It's been relentless. Suffice it to say, this kind of response
00:04:50.820 was not unusual. It's very much par for the course. For example, Columbia University professor
00:04:56.560 Anthony Zenkis, who apparently specializes in the field of social work, wrote, quote,
00:05:02.260 Today we mourn the death of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Gunned down. Wait, I'm sorry.
00:05:07.460 Today we mourn the deaths of 68,000 Americans who needlessly die each year so that insurance
00:05:11.220 company execs like Brian Thompson can become multimillionaires. Then there was this response
00:05:16.000 from somebody named Angie who said that the murder of the CEO had made her feel reinvigorated.
00:05:22.400 I don't know about y'all, but today I feel so reinvigorated. Class consciousness is on the rise
00:05:28.840 today. I haven't had hope like this in a long time. Here's the thing. They are so good at keeping
00:05:36.480 us divided because people who are divided are easier to control. So they manufacture all these
00:05:42.400 differences between us to make us hate each other and fight with each other so that we don't realize
00:05:47.780 our collective fight is actually against the elites, that it's a class war that we're actually in the
00:05:54.200 midst of the working class against the elite. Based off all the videos I'm seeing, based off the comment
00:06:00.040 sections, based off the general consensus as a united front, we all feel the same. We all feel the same
00:06:10.860 and we're all agreeing. Do you know how hard it is to get the American people to come together and
00:06:17.020 agree on something? God, imagine if we put our powers together to actually fight against our real
00:06:24.220 enemy. I have hope today. Maybe it's naive, but I have hope.
00:06:32.600 So these people are euphoric over the murder of a man with a family, supposedly because they're not
00:06:37.860 happy with his company's insurance coverage, even though most of these people know absolutely
00:06:41.080 nothing about them. They hadn't even heard of the company until this happened. But they've been told
00:06:46.240 by other people on TikTok that they should be happy the guy's dead, and so they are. Because on top of
00:06:50.660 being sociopaths, they are just brainless sheep. But now, like Taylor Renz, they're turning their
00:06:56.580 attention and their threats towards other CEOs. And it appears to be working. Within hours of the online
00:07:01.860 campaign to harass and threaten the CEO of Blue Cross Blue Shield, the company announced a reversal of its
00:07:06.220 planned policy on anesthesia coverage. They now say they're going to halt their proposed limits on
00:07:10.840 coverage for anesthesia during surgery. The company put out a statement reading, quote,
00:07:15.060 there's been a significant widespread misinformation about an update to our anesthesia policy. As a result,
00:07:19.000 we've decided to not proceed with this policy change. To be clear, it never was and never will be the
00:07:23.240 policy of Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield to not pay for medically necessary anesthesia services.
00:07:28.440 The proposed update to the policy was only designed to clarify the appropriateness of anesthesia
00:07:32.140 consistent with well-established clinical guidelines. Now, on the surface, this looks like a victory for
00:07:38.100 the assassin and its supporters. The assassin kills one insurance company CEO. The next day,
00:07:42.000 an insurance company rescinds its plan to limit coverage. It's the kind of thing that seems like
00:07:46.780 a major victory if you have no idea how the health insurance industry actually works. The catch is that
00:07:52.780 as a result of this reversal, anesthesiologists no longer have any incentives to stop overbilling,
00:07:59.160 which has been a major problem in their field in recent years. Blue Cross Blue Shield,
00:08:02.980 along with other insurance companies, was trying to force anesthesiologists to accept the standard
00:08:08.320 per-procedure Medicare rate for their services. Anesthesiologists hated that idea because they'd
00:08:13.100 prefer to keep charging high rates for hours that they weren't even working. And now, because of a
00:08:17.300 harassment campaign by left-wing activists in the wake of a CEO's murder, these anesthesiologists have
00:08:22.400 won. In other words, the same people who complain that health care costs are too high
00:08:26.960 might have just made it a lot easier for anesthesiologists to jack up health care costs
00:08:32.220 even further. It's a development that underscores the complexity of the situation.
00:08:39.400 You know, there are plenty of nuances that are lost when you're reenacting the French Revolution
00:08:43.900 and murdering people in the street instead of discussing complicated issues like reasonable
00:08:49.160 people are supposed to do in this democracy that the left told us was so important.
00:08:54.140 Now, to be clear, there's certainly evidence that companies like UnitedHealthcare are becoming
00:08:58.540 much more aggressive in denying certain kinds of claims. A Senate report from this year,
00:09:02.060 for example, found that, quote, in 2019, UnitedHealthcare issued an initial denial to 8.7%
00:09:07.060 of the post-acute care prior authorization requests it received. By 2022, it denied 22.7% of all such
00:09:13.520 requests, an increase of 172%. Its 2022 denial rate for skilled nursing facilities was nine times higher
00:09:21.000 than it was three years before. The Democrat-led Senate committee concluded that Medicare Advantage
00:09:26.500 insurers are intentionally targeting a costly but critical area of medicine, substituting judgment
00:09:31.540 about medical necessity with a calculation about financial gain. Now, what the report doesn't mention
00:09:36.840 is that UnitedHealthcare has profit margins of around 6%. After tax, it's really under 4%.
00:09:42.040 And that means that as a matter of basic finance, they're not driving up profits to some ridiculous
00:09:47.400 degree. Like any business, they have a lot of operating costs. They assume risks. If they
00:09:51.220 started approving every claim, they go out of business overnight, of course. The other important
00:09:55.520 element here that Democrats overlook, for obvious reasons, is that Democrats are the ones who implemented
00:10:01.380 coverage mandates, which inevitably raised the price of insurance for everybody. We saw that
00:10:05.240 immediately after Obamacare, which was supposedly to lower everyone's premiums. In reality, it increased
00:10:09.980 them dramatically. Now, the point I'm making here is not that UnitedHealthcare is blameless or that
00:10:18.600 the insurance industry in general shouldn't be criticized or that the CEO that was just killed is
00:10:25.180 some kind of saint. I have no idea what kind of guy he is. I mean, he could be the very face of evil
00:10:28.920 or he could be a decent guy or he could be somewhere in between. I have no clue. What I'm saying is that
00:10:34.540 there are no open and shut, clear-cut solutions to this problem. Any kind of solution requires real
00:10:40.460 debate and discussion and trade-offs, okay? And murdering executives in the street is not the way
00:10:48.580 to bring that about. I mean, what do you know? Okay, when you've got a really complicated issue like
00:10:53.200 healthcare costs, you're not going to solve that by just killing somebody, okay? It will not make
00:10:59.440 anything better. Not a single thing will be made better. And that should make you wonder why exactly
00:11:05.100 the left is so supportive of Brian Thompson's murder. If they don't actually care about fixing the health
00:11:10.080 insurance industry, which they don't, then what do they care about? It'd be one thing if these left-wing
00:11:17.180 activists had the view that sometimes when things get bad enough, an assassin needs to step up and take
00:11:24.060 someone out for the good of the community. Now, I'm not endorsing that view, obviously, but at least there's a
00:11:29.240 kind of moral coherence to that, okay? If they really believed that UnitedHealthcare is essentially
00:11:35.400 murdering people and profiting from unspeakable moral evils, then you can see why some of these
00:11:40.400 depraved leftists might get excited by the prospect of eliminating one of the company's executives. But
00:11:44.620 any semblance of coherence goes out the window the moment you zoom out 100 feet and you look at how
00:11:52.820 these same activists are reacting to the trial of Daniel Penny. Now, if these people really thought
00:11:59.380 that it's good and righteous to eliminate a clear and present danger to the community as they do with
00:12:05.460 the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, which they say is a danger to the community, then why exactly do they
00:12:10.880 have any objection to what Daniel Penny did? Why did they storm the subways in protest after Jordan
00:12:16.760 Neely's death chanting, no justice, no peace? Why have they been outside the courthouse for every
00:12:21.380 day of deliberations, pressuring the jurors to convict? Why isn't Taylor Lorenz writing articles
00:12:26.820 about how it's normal to be happy that Jordan Neely is dead? Why isn't that article? It's normal to be
00:12:33.260 happy when a violent, psychotic hobo is dead. Why didn't she write that article?
00:12:39.700 Why aren't the Columbia professors telling us not to mourn his death?
00:12:42.860 Now, even if we assume that Daniel Penny actually murdered Jordan Neely, which is not true,
00:12:50.740 but just for the sake of argument, by their logic, what would be the objection? I mean,
00:12:55.620 even if you pretend that Daniel Penny put a silencer on a pistol, waited until 6 a.m. when Jordan Neely
00:13:00.740 started walking into a Hilton hotel and then shot him in the back, why exactly would the leftists be
00:13:07.220 upset about that? Shouldn't they celebrate that? I mean, there's no way to dispute that Jordan Neely
00:13:12.200 was a menace to the community. He violently assaulted multiple people, including women
00:13:15.560 who were just trying to take a ride on the subway. He was threatening an entire subway car full of
00:13:22.660 innocent passengers the day he died. Yeah, he was also a Michael Jackson impersonator, supposedly,
00:13:28.680 but on top of that, he was an abuser of women and others. He was, in every respect, a net negative
00:13:35.400 on society, a clear threat to the safety and well-being of the working class. So why exactly
00:13:42.040 is anyone on the left upset that Daniel Penny took action to eliminate the threat posed by Jordan Neely
00:13:47.000 while they're busy swooning over the assassin of the United Healthcare CEO in Manhattan? How does that
00:13:53.020 work? Well, there's really only one way to make sense of it. In their world, Jordan Neely,
00:14:00.360 as a black drug addict criminal, has a life of greater value than a white male health insurance
00:14:07.560 CEO. Nobody wants to say that out loud, but it's true. If Brian Thompson had been the CEO of the
00:14:14.440 same company, everything's the same, but he was a black woman, you would not be seeing any of the
00:14:21.120 gloating and celebration. You'd probably be seeing the opposite. In fact, that the Washington Post would
00:14:24.200 be working overtime to find the assassin and dox everyone in his family. They'd rehire Taylor Lorenz and
00:14:29.880 have her track down the white supremacist killer along with every single social media post he's
00:14:34.740 made since he was in kindergarten. They probably solved the case in about 10 minutes. But as it
00:14:39.980 stands, his victim happened to fit in a demographic profile of a greedy subhuman colonizer. In other
00:14:46.420 words, he was white. Didn't even matter to them that this CEO was probably liberal. His company's
00:14:52.440 PAC certainly donated a lot of money to Kamala Harris. That wasn't important to them. So
00:14:58.120 what we're left with is murderous, unrestrained, anti-white race hatred under the guise of concern
00:15:05.840 about health insurance costs. A problem that none of these people actually have any interest in
00:15:10.780 fixing because all they do when they're in power is make insurance premiums higher.
00:15:15.820 Their primary interest is destabilizing the country by dehumanizing as many white people as
00:15:21.300 possible. And if that means killing some of them, so be it. In fact, that's just a bonus.
00:15:25.280 That explains the response to what happened in Butler and explains the response to what just
00:15:29.980 happened in Midtown Manhattan in front of the Hilton Hotel. If you're a white conservative Christian
00:15:34.540 and you think that these people wouldn't gloat the same exact way if you were murdered while you were
00:15:41.040 on your way to work, then you have no idea what the left is capable of or what they really believe.
00:15:46.620 Now, at this point, we don't know why exactly Brian Thompson was executed, but we do know
00:15:52.480 why exactly these ghouls are celebrating his assassin, even as they demonize men like Daniel Penny.
00:15:59.740 Pay attention to what they're saying. Spend some time reading their euphoric posts on social media.
00:16:06.540 And soon enough, you'll find that even if you're not the CEO of a major health insurance company,
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00:19:21.720 All right, we'll start with more on Daniel Penny. The New York Post has a support. Jordan Neely's
00:19:27.080 father is suing Daniel Penny over his son's chokehold death on a New York City subway car as the jury
00:19:33.120 still deliberates whether to convict Penny of manslaughter. In fact, the latest I just saw,
00:19:39.280 as I'm saying this right now, the latest is that it looks like we're headed towards a hung jury.
00:19:48.280 That might change, but that's just right before we started recording. That's what I saw.
00:19:52.120 Well, but back to the lawsuit, it says, the suit filed in New York City, New York Supreme Court on
00:19:57.980 Wednesday, accuses the Long Island Marine veteran of negligent contact, assault, and battery that
00:20:02.940 caused injuries and Neely's death last year. Neely's father, Andre Zachary, demands judgment,
00:20:09.300 awarding damages, and a sum which exceeds the jurisdictional limits of all lower courts which
00:20:13.100 would otherwise have jurisdiction, according to the lawsuit. It was filed yesterday, Wednesday,
00:20:18.120 as jurors and Penny's four-week-long Manhattan trial broke for a second time without reaching a
00:20:22.420 verdict. Okay, so Daniel Penny obviously has bigger fish to fry at the moment, but if he's acquitted or
00:20:30.000 there's a hung jury or something, God willing, I'd love to see him respond to this lawsuit by
00:20:38.180 counter-suing. Counter-sue the father, Andre Zachary, for being a terrible father who failed
00:20:45.120 to raise his son and allowed him to become a homeless, violent junkie. That's what I'd like
00:20:50.900 to see. Now, we're obviously used to seeing this sort of thing when you have these racial martyrs
00:20:58.740 and suddenly the family comes out of the woodwork. Family members that, by all accounts, were not
00:21:03.500 involved in the person's life, didn't care, didn't give a damn. Suddenly, they're weeping and wailing
00:21:09.120 on TV. Suddenly, they care about the person who they never did anything for when they were alive.
00:21:14.740 You know, we're very used to seeing this, but in this case, it's all the more egregious
00:21:17.840 because Neely was homeless before he died. He was a drug-addled hobo screaming incoherently
00:21:24.520 on the subway. That is a direct indictment of his father. His father left him to wallow away as a
00:21:31.120 homeless lunatic, just left him to die on the street, and now he wants to cash in.
00:21:39.200 Now, if Neely had just died, overdosed on the street corner somewhere, I doubt his father would
00:21:44.840 even go to the funeral, you have to wonder. Now, you know, there's an article, a very long article
00:21:51.780 about Jordan Neely's life and backstory in New York Magazine, and the article tells us that Neely's dad,
00:21:58.940 Andre Zachary, had been in a volatile on-again, off-again relationship with his mom.
00:22:06.100 Big surprise. And it says that he would, quote, waste his money and sleep around. That's the father.
00:22:13.240 Eventually, Neely's mom apparently was murdered. And at that point, Zachary was not part of his son's
00:22:20.620 life at all. The article says that Neely went to go live with his dad when he was 18, when Neely was 18.
00:22:27.620 But his dad apparently denies this detail. But it says in the article that Neely, at the time,
00:22:33.660 was a Michael Jackson impersonator. He was doing these performances. And his dad asked Neely to give
00:22:42.340 him some of the proceeds from his Michael Jackson performances. And they got into a big fight.
00:22:48.020 And a year later, Neely was staying at a homeless shelter at the age of 19.
00:22:54.140 And now that same guy, this deadbeat, wants to cash in on his son's death, a death that almost
00:23:00.140 certainly could have been avoided if he, the father, had actually cared for his son and had been involved
00:23:05.980 in his son's life and raised him. Okay? It's not that hard to avoid. I mean,
00:23:12.040 you can't guarantee it. I mean, even with great parenting, you can't guarantee your kids are
00:23:18.080 going to turn out well. It's technically possible that you could be a great parent and a very involved
00:23:22.660 parent and your child still ends up being, you know, a druggie on a street corner. But it's very
00:23:29.700 unlikely. And with my own sons, I'm, there's plenty of things I worry about, you know, in general with my
00:23:37.740 kids. I'm not worried that in the not too distant future, any of my kids are going to be on a subway
00:23:46.980 somewhere, drugged out of their minds and screaming random threats. Like I'm, I feel very, very confident
00:23:55.160 that's just not going to happen because I'm, I'm their father and I'm there and I'm raising them and
00:24:02.260 their mom is raising them. So if that happens with your kid, it almost certainly means that you have
00:24:09.120 failed as a parent, just spectacularly failed. You've, you've failed in every way. You know,
00:24:16.680 you, you did not do even a little bit of the job that you're supposed to be doing. And the thing is,
00:24:23.500 by the way, I don't think that Neely's father is, is necessarily pretending to be upset that his son
00:24:29.260 died. I would hope that he's actually upset. I would assume that even if you're a bad father who
00:24:34.240 didn't care for your son, you know, you should still be sad that he died. If you're a human being
00:24:38.660 at all, you'd be sad. So his emotions are, you know, maybe for the most part genuine, but whatever
00:24:45.460 anger he feels should be directed at himself, not Daniel Penny. In fact, Daniel Penny, Daniel Penny is
00:24:50.880 the one who should be angry for a lot of things and at a lot of people, but probably most, mostly at this
00:24:57.900 guy at, at the dead, you didn't do your job, dad. So Daniel Penny had to step up and do it for you.
00:25:04.280 You know, that's, that's the thing. Um, if you don't want your kid to potentially, um, end up dead
00:25:12.440 on a subway after a struggle with, uh, with someone who had to restrain them, uh, you know, then just
00:25:18.560 make sure your, your kid doesn't become a drug addled, violent hobo. You know, it's, it's, uh,
00:25:27.480 not that hard. Okay. Here's a article from Politico says president Joe Biden's senior aides
00:25:35.620 are conducting a vigorous internal debate over whether to issue preemptive pardons to a range
00:25:40.020 of current and former public officials who could be targeted with president elect Donald Trump's
00:25:44.120 return to the white house. According to senior Democrats familiar with discussions,
00:25:46.940 Biden's aides are deeply concerned about a range of current and former officials who could find
00:25:50.880 themselves facing inquiries and even indictments. Um, the white house officials, however, are carefully
00:25:55.480 weighing the extraordinary step of handing out blanket pardons to those who have committed a crime,
00:25:58.920 both because it could suggest impropriety only fueling Trump's criticism and because, uh, those
00:26:03.700 offered preemptive pardons may reject them, but they've looked at Liz Cheney, Adam Schiff and others
00:26:08.480 as people that, uh, uh, Anthony Fauci getting preemptive pardons, um, on the way out to the door. So we could be
00:26:16.420 looking at a pardoning spree unlike anything the world's ever seen, uh, or at least that this
00:26:19.740 country's ever seen. And we've seen some pretty extraordinary pardoning sprees, by the way,
00:26:23.100 from presidents in the past, but, um, it looks like Biden's probably about to do something that
00:26:27.820 dwarfs all of that. He already started obviously. And that brings up an interesting question about,
00:26:33.380 you know, whether the pardon power should even exist. Uh, Biden has, has already abused the power to
00:26:40.300 an extreme degree. He's about to abuse it even more. It seems like, is the answer that the power
00:26:45.580 just shouldn't exist at all? Is this just a thing that nobody should be able to do as president?
00:26:50.260 Now, if you're a libertarian minded person, you would say, uh, no, it shouldn't exist, right? This,
00:26:56.440 this is not a monarchy. Presidents are not Kings. It's crazy to give one guy the power to just wave
00:27:01.120 his magic wand and pardon anyone he wants for any reason he wants. Why should he have that power?
00:27:06.900 Why should the president be empowered to just point at any random person and say, nope,
00:27:10.500 they don't get that, you know, they can't go to jail, not them. Um, it's crazy. It's a power that
00:27:16.140 can only be abused because it's inherently undemocratic and authoritarian. It's a holdover
00:27:20.540 from a, from a monarchic system that we fought a war to overthrow in this country. And so it
00:27:25.940 shouldn't exist. That that's the libertarian view, right? I'm, I'm expressing the libert,
00:27:29.180 kind of the, what we might call the libertarian view of this. On the other hand, you know, uh, if
00:27:34.380 you're, let's say Michael Knowles, you would, you would say that monarchy isn't a bad word.
00:27:38.340 And just because something is, uh, monarchic, it doesn't make it bad. And besides you'd argue
00:27:43.040 the pardon power is a last line of defense against injustice. For example, we're all hoping that
00:27:48.860 Trump pardons many of the J sixers, uh, even more, I'm hoping he pardons pro-lifers who were
00:27:54.480 persecuted by Biden. And if presidents can't pardon, then those people would be doomed. They would have
00:28:00.240 no hope. So you could argue that the pardon power may be used in unjust ways sometimes, but it can also
00:28:05.600 be a tool to remedy injustices. So those are the two arguments I hear. And I think there's
00:28:11.140 credibility to both of them. My view is maybe a bit in between these two. Uh, I certainly wouldn't
00:28:17.080 support abolishing the pardon now, which I assume would take a constitutional amendment anyway,
00:28:22.360 which isn't going to happen, but I wouldn't support it because Trump has to be able to use
00:28:27.460 it for the reasons I just said, and to address and undo many other cases where Biden persecuted,
00:28:32.440 uh, and targeted, uh, and targeted his political enemies. But I do think there are some problems
00:28:36.020 inherent to the system, uh, the, the system where, where one dude wields the power to let anyone out
00:28:42.080 of jail just by decreeing it, as long as they committed a federal crime or, or were accused of
00:28:47.420 one or not even accused, but as long as they may have theoretically. The problem though, is the same
00:28:53.940 one we find in many other areas of government. You know, you know, there's that, that famous quote
00:28:59.260 you hear all the time from, um, uh, from, I think from John Adams, who said that our constitution
00:29:05.180 was made for a moral and religious people and is inadequate to the governing of any other kind of
00:29:11.480 people. And we're finding out why he said that and what exactly makes, you know, our system inadequate
00:29:17.900 in that scenario. And this applies not just to the people, but also to those in power. In other words,
00:29:23.020 the problem with the presidential pardon is that it was conceived and instated by moral,
00:29:29.320 dignified, religious men. And as long as men like that have that power, there are certain lines they
00:29:35.100 just won't cross. It doesn't mean it won't be abused, but there are just certain things they
00:29:38.180 wouldn't do. But what happens when you, when you're governed by undignified, shameless, power-mad
00:29:43.900 nihilists? Well, then the pardoning power becomes a problem. And, uh, and that's where we are.
00:29:50.460 So that's, that's how we ended up here, I think. All right. Daily Wire has a support. CNN devoted
00:29:56.940 multiple segments on Thursday to coverage of a Washington Post report about president-elect
00:30:01.120 Donald Trump's defense secretary nominee, Pete Hegseth, criticizing him for drinking beer during
00:30:05.780 a Fox and Friends segment about St. Patrick's Day. The story came just as NBC News ran a hit piece
00:30:10.880 citing a number of anonymous sources, but apparently not bothering to speak to his former co-hosts and
00:30:15.520 colleagues at Fox News, accusing Hegseth of drinking to excess on a regular basis.
00:30:18.700 Um, and the article points out that, you know, uh, uh, uh, over on CNN for their New Year's Eve
00:30:27.740 coverage, they get totally plastered. I mean, they, they get, you get Anderson Cooper and
00:30:32.460 his co-hosts get, get annihilated on, on camera. And that apparently isn't a problem. Um, so this is
00:30:41.680 the latest allegation against Pete Hegseth, um, that, uh, that they're, they're hitting him for
00:30:46.800 drinking, you know, to excess, allegedly drinking on air. Here's one of those CNN segments. Watch.
00:30:53.500 Development as Pete Hegseth fights to hold on to his nomination for defense secretary.
00:30:58.640 He arrived on Capitol Hill just a short time ago. As new reporting from the Washington Post cites
00:31:05.200 six former Fox News employees who say they witnessed Hegseth drinking at questionable moments. They say
00:31:10.680 Hegseth, quote, had a reputation as a heavy drinker, and they say they saw him, quote, drinking on the
00:31:16.600 job or visibly drunk at work events. CNN has learned that Hegseth has faced questions from senators,
00:31:22.560 including, are you an alcoholic? Are you a womanizer? And did you embezzle money?
00:31:31.100 Um, so drinking at questionable moments on air for a St. Patrick's Day segment, um, is, is what
00:31:37.540 happened. But, but this is, this has been the new, the new scandal. Leftists are all over it. Uh, very,
00:31:42.760 very, you know, very, uh, scandalized by Pete Hegseth drinking alcohol. There was also this tweet from
00:31:49.160 an account called Decoding Fox News. It says, some anonymous sources at Fox News claim Pete Hegseth
00:31:53.540 sometimes drinks alcohol while working. He openly drank Tennessee whiskey while filming a, the war on
00:31:59.260 warriors for Fox Nation. I provide receipts. She has the receipts. She's dug up the secret footage of a
00:32:07.520 segment that was filmed and aired. Uh, Pete apparently filmed an interview with some other veterans and they
00:32:16.180 sat around and talked and drank whiskey, Tennessee whiskey of all things. It's important to add that
00:32:20.960 in there. Tennessee, not, I mean, if he had, if they drank, uh, uh, you know, Irish whiskey or something,
00:32:26.020 maybe it'd be one thing, but Tennessee whiskey. So this is supposed to be very scandalous. Let's
00:32:30.720 actually watch, here's the receipt. Here's the receipt of this, uh, of this very dark and depraved
00:32:35.540 moment. Let's watch it. Keep going. Keep going. We're good. You got it. Well, thank you guys for
00:32:45.400 making the trip. Cheers. Cheers to you guys. Cheers to warriors. Appreciate you. Cheers. Thank
00:32:51.000 you, sir. Welcome to a special edition of modern warriors war on warriors. We are all here at an
00:32:59.040 undisclosed location outside of Nashville, Tennessee to talk about these concerns over
00:33:04.420 some Tennessee whiskey with real warriors. Wow. Pretty horrifying stuff. Uh, drinking on the job
00:33:14.180 is horrible. Nevermind the fact that everybody used to drink on the job. I mean, you know, I mean,
00:33:20.840 to get all bent out of shape about drinking in general is kind of hilarious considering that
00:33:24.540 like every great leader and great man in history drank. So this idea that, well, he can't be defense
00:33:31.040 secretary. Uh, he, he drinks. Oh, you mean like everyone ever who's been in any position of
00:33:39.540 leadership for like 10,000 years? Uh, this was a normal part of the culture, like of pretty much
00:33:45.980 every culture until recently. I mean, it's still a lot of people drink, but your grandfather was
00:33:51.640 drinking whiskey at 1 PM on work days. Okay. And the world functioned pretty well back then.
00:33:57.640 Pretty well. I mean, the, the, the world, the, the, uh, civilization, the society that brought us
00:34:04.520 from horse and buggy to the moon in the span of 60 or 70 years, all those people were drinking
00:34:11.300 whiskey in, in, in the afternoon. Okay. Um, so, uh, but nevermind that, you know, but drinking on
00:34:20.760 the job is terrible. Drinking on air is especially terrible, but I have to tell you, I do have to
00:34:25.040 reveal this. Uh, this is a widespread problem actually drinking on air. In fact, um, you weren't
00:34:32.240 expecting this, but I'm going to be a whistleblower right now. This is me turning whistleblower, uh,
00:34:37.960 here at the daily wire. And, uh, cause I'll tell you that here at the daily wire, we, there are
00:34:43.340 people here who drink on air. Okay. I'm not going to mention any names, but there are people,
00:34:49.100 people who are certainly not qualified to be defense secretary. It turns out due to their rampant
00:34:54.580 on air drinking. So let me show you this. Uh, here's secret footage, uh, that I've captured of
00:34:59.760 a daily wire backstage episode. It's just the most recent one. And I want you to, and you won't be
00:35:05.360 able to see this, but you have to watch the video. So if you're listening to the audio podcast, you
00:35:09.480 get to watch the video, but look at what you see in the foreground. This is pretty disturbing. Watch
00:35:14.080 this. You hear people talk about it, kind of taking it for granted, not, not, not approaching it with
00:35:20.060 the, not just the reverence, but the fascination that I think these books deserve. There also is this
00:35:25.240 problem we have in modernity, which is we clearly took a wrong exit at some point. And you see that
00:35:30.700 all around us. But if you take a wrong exit and you go 500 miles down the road, you don't just get
00:35:37.140 to tell it. So there you see it. That was, uh, that was daily wire host, Michael Knowles. And you
00:35:44.680 notice the bottles of whiskey in front of multiple bottles of whiskey in front of him. And I can tell you
00:35:51.020 that Michael Knowles drank during that backstage episode. He drank, he was drinking. He drinks
00:35:57.420 during all of them. And he smokes alcohol and tobacco on air while children could be watching.
00:36:04.700 It's objectionable, incredibly. Now I know you might be thinking, you might be thinking,
00:36:09.120 wait a minute, Matt, don't you also drink during every backstage episode? Don't you arguably drink
00:36:14.940 more than any of them during back? You'll see, you'll see me with a whiskey glass consuming a
00:36:21.580 brown ish liquid. That's not whiskey. That's apple juice. Um, I always tell them, anyone here can tell
00:36:28.060 you I'm all about apple juice. And so before we started, I said, bring me my, bring me my nice
00:36:32.240 apple juice. I give me a nice apple juice to sip on for this. And so that's how I relax. I relax with
00:36:37.600 a bit of apple juice, big apple juice guy. Uh, but I object to the alcohol consumption. I tell him
00:36:42.940 all the time. I say, fellas, this is not, this is not right. This, you know, we, this, this is a bad
00:36:49.200 example. I say it. That's what I say. I do. I promise. So pretty, pretty terrible stuff. Um,
00:36:58.760 all joking aside for a moment, uh, I would just move on from there, but I do have to say,
00:37:04.300 I can't just leave it there because, um, you got to hold the line here. This, this is, this has to be,
00:37:11.220 you draw a line here. I mean, with, with Pete Hegseth, because we can, these scandals that they
00:37:16.660 keep pulling up, uh, they're either obviously totally bogus, you know, the rape claims.
00:37:22.380 And you notice how they've moved on from that, by the way. Okay. Let's talk about that for a moment.
00:37:27.900 If the left actually believed that the rape claim that was made, then they wouldn't be moving on to
00:37:35.460 digging up videos of Pete Hegseth, you know, having a sip of whiskey with his military buddies. Okay.
00:37:39.900 You wouldn't move on to that. If you actually thought the guy was a rapist. Okay. If you
00:37:44.700 believe the story that he, I guess, uh, coaxed some woman up to his hotel room, wouldn't let her,
00:37:51.260 kidnapped her. That means he's guilty. I mean, if, if it was true, what he was accused of,
00:37:56.460 then he should be in prison for the rest of his life. This is like kidnapping. This is a assault,
00:38:02.400 rape. I mean, it's all these things. So if you really believe that you wouldn't now be
00:38:07.240 talking about, Oh, he liked, he said he drank some whiskey during a, you know, or, or had a beer on
00:38:13.300 a St. Patrick's day segment. Um, so the fact that you're getting this kind of like machine gun fire
00:38:21.200 of these fake scandals, it, it shows you that part of it is like, they're trying to flood the zone.
00:38:25.900 And, um, but why do they do that? It's because they know that, that none of them mean anything.
00:38:31.480 They know that either they're totally made in and made up and bogus or the scandals are not scandals.
00:38:38.880 It's just nothing. It's ridiculous. Um, and that's what you do. That's what, when you don't have,
00:38:45.400 if you've got real dirt on somebody, if you've got something real, something serious, something that
00:38:50.880 could really destroy them, then you put that out there and you just hammer that constantly. Uh,
00:38:58.060 what you don't do if you have real dirt is just dump a bunch of other dirt on top of it, uh, or
00:39:05.400 stuff that isn't even dirt, but like, so that, so that, so that the one thing you have gets buried
00:39:08.880 under all the other nonsense. When you see them start using this tactic, uh, that's how you know
00:39:16.860 that they really got nothing. And which is why Republicans, uh, absolutely need to pull the line
00:39:24.900 on this. Um, and, uh, this, this just makes it all the more important that Pete Exeth is confirmed.
00:39:35.260 I mean, you, you cannot let this kind of tactic win. And I'll tell you one thing that if it does,
00:39:43.180 you know, if the left does win on this, if this does prove successful, that's a very,
00:39:46.860 very bad sign for the next two years, because we need Republicans. You've got two years,
00:39:53.020 you've got only two years that you can be sure of and probably will only be two years because,
00:39:57.820 you know, historic in recent history, uh, midterm elections usually don't go very well for the
00:40:03.020 party in power. So, um, you can only count on two years. You've got two years to advance your agenda.
00:40:08.960 You've got two years to push through the policies and everything else that you ran on,
00:40:12.280 that Trump ran on, that all these Republicans ran on. Um, and you're going to have to do it,
00:40:17.660 obviously over the objection of leftists. They're going to be crying and whining about it the whole
00:40:23.180 time. They're going to try to make every single thing you do into a major scandal.
00:40:25.860 And so if Republicans start off by caving and not holding the line on Pete Hegseth,
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00:42:09.540 Yesterday we talked pretty extensively about the Supreme court case stemming from our law in
00:42:20.220 Tennessee, banning child gender transitions. And we discussed the pro trans, uh, as we discussed
00:42:25.300 the pro trans side fell apart during the hearing. They were forced to concede major points that until
00:42:31.160 that moment had been central to their argument. They had to admit that transitioning doesn't prevent
00:42:35.580 suicides. They had to admit that transgenderism is not an immutable characteristic, which means that
00:42:39.520 the law cannot be discriminating based on an immutable characteristic as they had claimed.
00:42:43.860 Uh, they also admitted that cross-sex hormones can cause infertility and they admitted that people
00:42:47.980 regret gender transition procedures. These are all things that the Biden administration and the ACLU
00:42:52.640 admitted during oral arguments while trying to argue against the law, banning these procedures. So
00:42:57.300 their whole case was destroyed and it was destroyed by their own hand. That was the action
00:43:02.480 inside outside. It was no better. As you saw, we showed up to rally together outside the Supreme
00:43:07.820 court, but the other side showed up to, uh, to try to drown us out. They had their own rally,
00:43:11.740 which was set up right next to ours. There was one moment from their rally that I initially missed
00:43:16.160 and, uh, it was, it's, it's worth playing now. I think it's disgusting a little bit because it's
00:43:20.960 another moment where the so-called trans rights side collapsed in on itself just by talking.
00:43:27.000 So here is the actress, Annette Benning, who apparently came to this rally and was there to
00:43:33.300 talk about her, uh, quote unquote, trans child. Watch.
00:43:38.660 I think the greatest gift of my life is to have kids and to have a transgender child has made me so
00:43:48.600 much more interesting, so much more wise. And for the Supreme court justices, I encourage them
00:44:00.120 to talk to their kids, their grandkids, their nieces and nephews, because I'll bet if they really
00:44:07.120 sit down and ask them, do you know trans kids around you? Do you have any non-binary friends?
00:44:13.700 They're going to say yes. And they're going to say that this is part of the beautiful rainbow
00:44:19.900 of human beings everywhere. Pretty compelling constitutional argument there, right? For
00:44:27.380 the justices to take into consideration, the beautiful rainbow, the beautiful rainbow of human
00:44:32.520 beings. Uh, here's just a general comment though, but, um, even putting this issue aside,
00:44:37.260 if you're a Supreme court justice trying to decide the constitutionality of a law, uh, no,
00:44:42.100 do not go talk to a child about it. Okay. Don't, don't, don't go, don't go talk to your nieces
00:44:46.500 and nephews and grandchildren, no matter what the issue is. Like they don't know. Okay. I don't,
00:44:52.620 that's not who a Supreme court justice should be consulting when trying to analyze the constitutionality
00:44:58.620 of a law. Um, so anyway, there's a Annette Bening and I'm not sure I even need to say anything
00:45:06.600 about what we just heard there, but I already did. We'll continue to, uh, cause that was a classic
00:45:11.660 moment of saying the quiet part out loud. Annette Bening declares that having a trans kid has made
00:45:17.820 her more interesting. Now think about that. She didn't even say that it's made life more
00:45:23.080 interesting or that her child is interesting or anything like that. No, she said that it has made
00:45:27.440 her more interesting. According to Annette Bening, the great benefit of transitioning a child is that
00:45:34.660 it makes the parent that makes her into a more interesting person. Now there are two extremely large
00:45:40.460 problems here. Uh, first of all, it's not true. There's nothing interesting about having a quote
00:45:46.420 trans child, nothing interesting about this woman. It's not, it's not interesting that some washed up
00:45:51.420 left-wing actress has a trans kid. That's about the least interesting development imaginable.
00:45:56.740 Every washed up left-wing actress in Hollywood has a trans kid quote unquote. Now that's the trend.
00:46:02.420 There's nothing interesting about following a trend. Nobody's fascinated by it. No one's going to
00:46:06.680 hear that an actress has a trans kid and say, wow, that's a mate. How interesting. It's like me
00:46:12.380 buying a pickup truck because I think it'll make me more interesting. I like pickup trucks, but if I
00:46:17.940 have one, it just, it makes me the same as literally every other adult male in the state of Tennessee.
00:46:23.260 Okay. Now the difference of course is that pickup trucks are good. It's good to have one. Transing your
00:46:27.660 child is not good. And also of course, a pickup truck is an object. A child is not, but that's the point.
00:46:33.340 That's how these people treat their own kids. They treat their kids like, like objects, like accessories,
00:46:38.620 like fashion statements. That's the main point here. Annette Bening has revealed what should
00:46:44.760 already be obvious, which is that it's all about her. Annette Bening's child is trans because Annette
00:46:50.660 Bening is projecting her own desires and preferences and narcissism onto her child. So I've said for years
00:46:56.580 that the trans kid phenomenon is in so many cases, really Munchausen by proxy. And for those who aren't
00:47:04.520 familiar, Munchausen by proxy is when a parent or caretaker, almost always the mother, I'm not aware
00:47:09.180 of any case where it wasn't the mother, pretends that a child is sick and in many cases will actually
00:47:15.920 make the child sick. And she does all this so that she, the mother, will get attention. It's extreme
00:47:21.280 attention seeking behavior by the mother. And she's willing to do great physical and psychological
00:47:25.360 harm to her child to get the attention she desires. That's because she doesn't recognize her child as
00:47:30.180 anything but an extension of herself. Her child doesn't have a unique identity in her eyes. Her
00:47:34.420 child is not a person to her. And I believe that something very similar is happening here. Women
00:47:40.880 like Annette Bening, and again, they're almost always women, and Dwayne Wade, see their children as
00:47:47.900 mechanisms for bringing attention and praise back to themselves. They will guide or force their
00:47:54.920 children in whatever direction is necessary to achieve that aim, which is why, as gender ideology
00:48:00.360 falls out of favor culturally, you're going to find that magically, like some great scientific marvel,
00:48:06.500 all of these Hollywood leftists will discover that their children actually aren't trans anymore.
00:48:11.000 Then they'll go back to just forcing their kids to be vegans or whatever, which is not as bad,
00:48:15.060 but also not good. We should always acknowledge that there are parents whose children fall victim
00:48:23.040 to the social contagion very much against the will and guidance of the parents themselves. And I have
00:48:27.980 a lot of sympathy for those parents. But it's pretty easy to distinguish between those kinds of
00:48:33.640 parents and parents like Annette Bening. The only similarity is that in both cases, the children are
00:48:40.180 victims. In Annette Bening's case, her child is a victim of her. And that is why Annette Bening is today
00:48:49.000 canceled. That'll do it for the show today and this week. It is Friday, isn't it? Yes, it is. So I'll
00:48:54.500 talk to you on Monday. Have a great weekend. Godspeed.