Ep. 1528 - WATCH The Democrats Hilariously Fall Apart During The DNC Meeting
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The Democratic National Committee met over the weekend to elect their new leadership, and it was an unintentionally hilarious circus that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the Democrats have learned absolutely nothing from their embarrassing defeat. Also, Trump s tariffs on Mexico are already getting big results, and a liberal philosophy professor humiliates himself in an attempt to debunk J.D. Vance. We ll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the DNC met over the weekend to elect their new leadership.
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It was an unintentionally hilarious circus that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the
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Democrats have learned absolutely nothing from their embarrassing defeat.
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Also, Trump's tariffs on Mexico are already getting big results.
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Trump now has his eyes set on Panama. He says America should control it. He's
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definitely right. I'll explain why. And a liberal philosophy professor humiliates himself
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in an attempt to debunk J.D. Vance. We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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It's still obviously very early in the process, but I think I may have identified the candidate
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that Democrats are going to run in the next election. This is not a definite prediction.
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Everything's subject to change at this point. But after what happened at the Democrat National
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Committee on Saturday, any reasonable person would agree that I'm onto something here.
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So for background on Saturday, Democrats met to select a new chair for the DNC, along with a slew
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of other roles, including vice chair. And one candidate for the job, her name is Dr. Quintessa
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Hathaway, stole the show. Now on her website, Dr. Quintessa describes herself as a thought leader,
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in addition to being a scholar, a historian, and an entrepreneur. So she's like Socrates,
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Stephen Ambrose, Elon Musk, Albert Einstein rolled into one. And plus she's a doctor on top of that.
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Now granted, Dr. Quintessa is a doctor in the sense that Jill Biden is a doctor, which means that she's
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a doctor in the sense that she's not a doctor. She has some kind of educational degree or something,
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but she's not letting that slow her down. Her biography states that her goal in life is to,
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quote, continue to beat the drum of change. And as she made her case at the DNC on Saturday,
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the good doctor did exactly that. So here, for example, is how Dr. Quintessa began her opening
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statement at the DNC. Now to be clear, this is not some kind of sketch comedy show. This was broadcast
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on MSNBC to literally dozens of viewers who are eagerly looking forward to seeing how their party
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was going to move forward after their massive loss in the last election. And here's how it went. Watch.
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We'll begin with the opening statements. Each candidate will have 30 seconds. And we'll start
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Good evening, everyone. It is my desire to be the next DNC chair. And I just want to give you all a
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little bit of something that's been on my heart here over the last couple of days. You fight
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on. You fight on. You fight on. You fight on. When your government is doing you wrong. You fight
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on. You fight on. Thank you, Dr. Hathaway. I just noticed the people on the stage openly laughing
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at her, which is kind of nice. So try to imagine what it must have been like watching that performance
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as a committed, true believer in the Democrat Party. You know, you're in some ballroom in Maryland.
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You're hoping to see some kind of new approach to win over voters who are clearly moving away from
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liberal politics. Meanwhile, the candidates to lead your party are treating the whole thing like
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karaoke night. And by the way, Dr. Quintessa didn't stop there. She kept on singing. She was singing
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through this whole thing. OK, here she is again. We shall overcome. We shall overcome.
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Well, by the way, how many pearls does that like how many oysters had to die to create the
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56 pearl necklaces around her neck? But anyway, if you've ever wondered what it would be like to
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encounter a character in a musical, but in real life, well, now we know. Just someone who sings
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rather than rather than talking. And it's just as annoying and off-putting as you'd expect.
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But anyway, in the end, I'm shocked to report and and disappointed to report that Dr. Quintessa,
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the esteemed scholar, historian, entrepreneur, you know, pop singer, did not receive a single vote
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at the DNC. Out of hundreds of voting members, not a single one decided that Dr. Quintessa should be
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the next chair of the party. There is apparently zero grassroots genuine support for her candidacy
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whatsoever. She couldn't even get a friend to vote for her. She had precisely zero support.
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And you know what that means? It means that Quintessa is a shoo-in to be Democrats next
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presidential nominee. After all, if Kamala Harris can do it, so can Quintessa. In today's Democrat
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party, the fact that no one actually wants to vote for her, that nobody likes her, even though she's a
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strong, independent black woman, is far from a liability. It's an asset. So you might as well start
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printing the Dr. Quintessa Hathaway yard signs now. She's basically a lock to break the glass ceiling
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in four years, or to be broken against the glass ceiling, as this happened to the last two women
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who ran. But at the same time, as history-making and inspiring as Dr. Quintessa is, she was just a
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small part of the show that the DNC put on this weekend. One by one, Democrats made it very clear
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that they have learned absolutely nothing from the last election. Not a single thing. Every
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speaker, without exception, was clearly obsessed with identity politics and in particular racial
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grievances. So here are a couple of speakers who, you know, repeatedly begin their remarks by telling
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the crowd to be quiet because a black woman is speaking. Watch.
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Hello, Democrats. Hey, I am speaking, and I would love your attention. There is a black
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woman at this podium, and I deserve your attention, like the 11 people who went before me. Yes,
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I am speaking. Good evening, Democrats. Look up here. Three strong black women standing before you.
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Three black women who, rather than just grabbing a chair, ran for chair. We are sick and tired of being
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the last one hired and the first one fired. We are sick and tired of this.
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Yeah, I might try a version of this at my next speech. Hey, everyone, shut up. There's a white
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man speaking up here. How dare you? How dare you speak while a white man is addressing you?
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Silence, you fools. I am a white man. Try it. I mean, I'd probably go over a little differently than it
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did at the DNC, I'm guessing. But Democrats have marinated in racial politics for so long in every
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aspect of their lives that they didn't see any problem with this. And if you go in and pull up
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footage of the DNC's internal selection process back in 2017, after Trump's first election, you'll
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notice that it was not like this. Not exactly like it anyway. CNN covered the whole thing at the time,
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and it was a primetime event, and they were talking about their plans to impeach and investigate
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Trump and former resistance. They talked about how motivated they were to come up with a coherent
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message for Americans. Watch. Donald Trump has already done a number of things which legitimately
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raised the question of impeachment. This energy is electric. January 20th was undeniably an important
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day. But January 20th and 21st and beyond was even more important because people are rising up and
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saying, Donald Trump, you do not stand for our values. So I think it's really important that the
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Democratic Party focuses on an overarching message that's going to speak to all Americans.
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Now, the whole thing was obviously still deranged in its own way, but it was not like what we're
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seeing now. We're now seeing a party that has no idea how to be effective, no idea what it even wants
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to do. A party in total disarray with no vision for the future whatsoever. So instead of coming up with
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anything unifying or coherent, they're going completely off the deep end. And in fact,
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they're now reciting land acknowledgements because, of course, they believe America sits on stolen land,
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and that's their winning message for the next election. The way that everything went in the last
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election, the way the culture is moving right now has not dissuaded them. They're leaning into it,
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and here's how the DNC's voting meeting began this weekend.
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Welcome. The Democratic National Committee wishes to be a
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to acknowledge that we gather together to state our values on lands that have been stewarded
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through many centuries by the ancestors and the descendants of tribal nations who have been here
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since time immemorial. We honor the communities native to this continent and recognize that our
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country was built on indigenous lands and hope. Now, of course, as always with this kind of thing,
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I must always ask, which indigenous people did we allegedly steal the land from? The ones who most
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recently possessed it before white people showed up, or the ones that those indigenous people
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slaughtered and took it from, or the ones that those people slaughtered, and so on and so on down the
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line? And we never do get an answer to that question, no matter how many times I've asked it.
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All we're told is that the line of legitimate possession of the land stopped for some reason in about the
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16th century. The moment white people showed up, it was no longer legitimate to conquer the land and
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take possession of it. It was only legitimate to do that for the hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of
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years that Indians were doing it before Europeans landed. That's the idea. But, you know, there's no time
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to dwell on that one bit of absurdity. The whole thing was a parade of absurdity that went on for hours,
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like this moment, where the proceedings eventually came to an abrupt halt because one candidate identified
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as non-binary, and that created some confusion because the DNC apparently has strict rules requiring
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gender balance among the party chairs who are elected. So what do you do when someone shows up
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and they are none of the genders? When they don't fall into any of the, you know, 95 invented genders
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at all, what do you do? Well, here they are trying to deal with that problem.
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Rules specify that when we have a gender non-binary candidate or officer, the non-binary individual
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is counted as neither male nor female, and the remaining six officers must be gender balanced.
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With the results of the previous four elections, our elected officers are currently two male and
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two female. In order to be gender balanced, we must select one male, one female, and one person
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of any gender. So again, this is what we have to do for this vice chair race. We have to elect
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one male, one female, and one person of any gender. To ensure our process accounts for male, female,
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and non-binary candidates, we conferred with our RBC co-chair, our LGBT caucus co-chair, and others
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to ensure that the process is inclusive and meets the gender balance requirements in our rules.
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To do this, our process will be slightly different than the one outlined to you earlier this week.
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So they conferred about this question, and I'm sure they did confer about it. I mean,
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and if you're wondering why the Democrats, no Democrat can ever be an effective leader,
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why they cannot effectively lead the country, it's because this is what they're spending time on.
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I mean, they're spending hours and hours conferring and caucusing and meeting, you know,
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to discuss what to do with their non-binary candidates. And watching that, you have to
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wonder what they would do with the DNC if they ended up with a candidate who belongs to one of
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the other 10 million genders out there. If one non-binary candidate, quote unquote, can throw the
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whole process out of whack like this, imagine what they do if they had a two-spirit running for office
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or a bi-gender candidate. But if there's a gender-fluid demi-queer thrown into the mix,
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what do you do then? To avoid being transphobic, they probably just have to shut down the whole
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party at that point. And by the way, just for the record, of course, this is the, if you're
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wondering, this is the allegedly non-binary, quote unquote, candidate they're talking about.
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My name is Troy Blackwell. I know that I'm a new face to many of you, but I'm a proud Afro-Latino
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from the South Bronx, New York. I got into this work because at the age of 18, unfortunately,
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I was the victim of a hate crime. Today, I stand before you as one of the first non-binary
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candidates to run in the DNC's 177-year history.
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I'm proud to be the only Afro-Latino in this race.
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I'm asking you to take a chance on someone like me, a proud non-binary Afro-Latino from
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the South Bronx. The final tally of votes, Troy Blackwell, zero.
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By the way, is he an Afro-Latino? He didn't mention it. I can't remember. Did he say that?
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I was watching. I'm wondering, is that guy an Afro-Latino?
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I know what he did mention it, 46 times in the span of 30 seconds. Now, looking at that guy,
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there are a lot of signs that seem to point towards a specific binary and that he's a member
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of one side of that binary, being the male side. There's the facial hair, the voice, the build.
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But then he opens his mouth and dispels all those assumptions. He tells us that he's one of the first
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non-binary candidates in the DNC's history. And you might ask what it means for someone to be
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non-binary. I mean, what does it take to claim that identity? Well, all it takes is for you to
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say it out loud. If someone is non-binary, it means that they have said out loud the words,
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I am non-binary. And through that mystical incantation, they have become something other
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than male or female, even though they can't explain how exactly they are something other
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than male or female, or what it means to be something other than male or female.
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Well, still, they are somehow. Now, it's all nonsense, obviously. And at some level,
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Democrats seem to realize that. And that would explain why that guy, like the doctor,
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received zero votes. And things went on like this for a while longer at the meeting.
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Take a look at this footage, for example, showing every single candidate for DNC chair. And each one
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of them has asked the same question. And you'll never believe how they answer it. Watch.
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In this round, so I'm going to have a show of hands. How many of you believe that racism
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and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris's defeat? Okay. So that's good. You all pass.
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So when the moderator says you all passed, he's making a more revealing statement than he probably
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realized. The question was a test. And specifically, it was a test of loyalty. He's trying to determine
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who's willing to affirm party orthodoxy, even in the face of clear evidence that the party orthodoxy
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is wrong. The vast majority of Americans understand that Kamala lost because she was a terrible
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candidate who played a key role in a terrible administration. That's why she lost the popular
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vote as well as the election. But in the Democratic Party of 2025, you're not allowed to criticize the
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party establishment, which Kamala Harris represents and or at least did. And you're certainly not allowed
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to criticize a black woman for any reason. So this is what you're left with. And that's why the ultimate
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results of this DNC meeting were not surprising in the slightest. As the saying goes, garbage in,
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garbage out. And that is why in the end, David Hogg, the man who built a lucrative career on the
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bodies of his dead classmates, was elected vice chair of the DNC. Yes, David Hogg is now a major
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party in the, a major figure in the Democrat Party. And here's that big announcement, which of course
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is prefaced, prefaced by a guy quoting the sage words of Beyonce. You Democrats, in the words of Beyonce,
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Beyonce. America has a problem, but Democrats, we're about to fix it. God bless you. Thank you so much.
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First of all, thank you, Chairman Harrison. Can we give a round of applause to Jamie?
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You. Thank you. Thank you. Who's ready to take the fights of the Republicans and win this thing?
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Are you guys ready to fight? It's been a long day, but guess what? We have a long road ahead.
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Let's go and kick some ass. Now, there's an old adage about never interrupting your enemy
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when he's making a mistake. And in this case, the enemies of civilization are clearly making a massive
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and unforced error. So really, I probably shouldn't say anything here. But in this case,
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I can't resist because even David Hogg himself has explained to Democrats why this is a terrible idea.
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So let's put this image on the screen. Here's what Hogg has written. Quote,
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like I'm already one of the most politically toxic people in the country. Any politician doing
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anything with me is in effect committing political suicide. Close quote. And that about sums it up.
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And there's a reason that Hogg wrote that. I mean, he's on record making some of the dumbest and most
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politically damaging statements imaginable. Here's just a small collection of them. And
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there's, I mean, hundreds you could choose. As you can see, David Hogg has written, quote,
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abolish ICE, defund the police. The NRA needs to be designated a terrorist organization.
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He also predicted Joe Biden would win the last election pretty confidently. These are ideas
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that Kamala Harris tried to run away from, and it still didn't work. And now Democrats are
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embracing all of it. And things get even worse when you look at the man who won the office of
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DNC chair. This is the guy that David Hogg will be advising as vice chair. It's a guy named Ken Martin,
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who currently leads Democrats in Minnesota. And if you don't know anything about Ken Martin,
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which nobody does, here's how he answered one very important question during this leadership
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contest. This is just about the simplest question and the easiest one he could have possibly been
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asked. And he managed to give the wrong answer. Here it is. In October of 2024, a large part,
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about one third of Trump's advertising budget, went specifically to this one ad. It was about
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gender-changing surgeries for a small number of transgender, incarcerated, undocumented
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immigrants. These particular ads ended with the line, Kamala is for they, them. President Trump is
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for you. How should Democrats respond to this attack? Our party has to live its values. Everyone
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has dignity. Our party believes that no matter where you're from, no matter where you live, no matter
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who you love or who you are, you have dignity and we're going to fight for you. And that's what we're
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going to do as a Democratic party. Now, a lot of polls, including Democrats' own internal polls,
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show that this kind of thing is what cost the Democrats the last election. And the DNC chair
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has just doubled down on it. Instead of saying, no, we shouldn't fund sex changes for illegal aliens,
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he gave pretty much the same response Kamala Harris gave. He has embraced what is perhaps the single
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least popular position in maybe political history. It'd be hard to think of one less popular than
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this. Funding sex changes for illegal aliens who are in prison is the kind of thing seemingly designed
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to piss off nearly every group and demographic in the country, save for the demographic of pink-haired
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people with septum piercings. Those are the only people you're appealing to with a position like
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that. And as we found, there's not enough of those people to win a national election. Thank God.
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Meanwhile, his vice chair admits that the party's committing political suicide just by associating
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with him. And in the background, there's a chorus of non-binary men and angry BIPOC screaming about
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racism. That's the state of the Democrat party in 2025. And the point here is not just to make fun of
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Democrats, although that's a big part of it. And it's always a lot of fun. The real point is that
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the DNC clearly has not learned a single thing from their recent humiliating defeats. The Democrat
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party is a bicycle with only one gear. This is it. Identity politics is just too deeply embedded in
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the core of the institution. It's all they know how to do. And that means that one of two outcomes is
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possible going forward. Either the Democrats are headed towards a generation of irrelevance,
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or they will somehow successfully pull the culture back into the sort of fog of wokeness that we only
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recently seem to be emerging from. And watching what happened at the DNC this weekend, the latter
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option admittedly doesn't seem very likely at this point. But as long as these people are still running
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a major party in the US, we have to consider that possibility, as remote as it may be. And that's why
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after laughing at these people and sharing as many of these clips as possible, because they're
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objectively hilarious, we need to do everything we can to make sure that they never hold power again.
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Daily Wire reports Canada and Mexico announced tariffs against the U.S. on Saturday in retaliation for a slate
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of new import duties. President Donald Trump ordered against the U.S. neighbors in China.
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Canadian Prime Minister Justice Trudeau said on Saturday that Canada is working with Mexico to
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push back against Trump's tariffs. Trump ordered increased tariffs on goods from Canada, China,
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and Mexico over a lack of sufficient action against human and drug trafficking that has poured into
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the U.S. Trudeau said, I think Canadians understand that we need to respond to this. We're certainly not
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looking to escalate, but we will stand up for Canada. Trump issued his own statement on Truth Social
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saying that condemning his critics and supporters of the decades-long ripoff of America, both with
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regard to trade, crime, and poisonous drugs that are allowed to so freely flow into America those days
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are over. Trump ordered 25% tariffs on imports from Canada and Mexico with a lesser 10% tariff hike
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on Canadian energy imports. Trump also ordered a 10% additional tariff on Chinese goods.
00:25:51.640
In return, Canada and Mexico announced their own 25% tariffs on a slate of U.S. goods.
00:26:01.020
So Trump is imposing these tariffs. The reason is pretty simple, pretty clear.
00:26:06.280
For Mexico and Canada, it's because they're not doing enough to secure their side of the border
00:26:10.440
and to prevent the tidal wave of drugs that is flowing into our country, as Trump said. And we've
00:26:18.080
asked these countries nicely for a long time to step up and do their part, because it's just not
00:26:26.040
acceptable that this stuff is coming across their borders into our country. It's just not acceptable.
00:26:33.020
And, you know, when you're the most powerful country in the region and in the world, in fact,
00:26:38.880
you say to the countries that border you, hey, you need to fix this.
00:26:42.980
Okay, this is not allowed to continue. So you need to figure, whatever you got to do,
00:26:48.120
you need to figure out a way to fix this. And that's what Trump is doing. And
00:26:52.140
Trump is trying to basically force the issue, because the thing about the carrot and stick approach
00:26:57.900
is that eventually you got to use the stick. And so here it is. Here's the stick.
00:27:03.700
And it was a long time coming. Now, of course, the media and the left and even some conservatives
00:27:08.880
are freaking out about this and acting like Trump is imposing these tariffs for no reason,
00:27:15.180
you know, acting shocked and like this is Trump is deranged or something and just doing this
00:27:23.440
randomly when, first of all, Trump has been talking about this since forever. I mean,
00:27:29.160
since way before he even ran for president. So this is Trump doing exactly what he said he would do,
00:27:36.660
what he ran on. That's what gets me about the reaction from a lot of people is he ran on this.
00:27:44.260
He's been talking about this forever. And so now he's doing it. Why wouldn't he do it? He ran on it.
00:27:51.960
He won. So, okay, now he's going to do it. And again, there's a reason for it. These countries are
00:28:00.180
directly facilitating the deaths of thousands of Americans by allowing poison to pour across
00:28:04.860
their border into our country. And, you know, that does that count as a reason to do it? I'd say
00:28:12.640
it's a reason. It's pretty good reason. Now, meanwhile, Democrats are hysterically warning about
00:28:18.380
the cost of a quote unquote trade war with China, with well, China, yes, but with Canada and Mexico
00:28:24.580
in particular, as if we couldn't easily win such a war, as if we don't obviously have the upper hand
00:28:32.100
in both cases. But Democrats are claiming we don't. Here is Chuck Schumer.
00:28:38.880
Let's just take Super Bowl Sunday. Okay. It's going to affect beer. Okay. Most of it Corona here
00:28:48.620
comes from Mexico. It's going to affect your guac. Because what is guacamole made of avocados both from
00:28:57.000
Mexico? Okay. Well, while Chuck Schumer was babbling there, I just saw the latest on this.
00:29:05.140
In fact, there's an update beyond what I just told you. Daily Wire just reported this. Mexican
00:29:11.640
President Claudia Scheinbaum said on Monday that she's moving 10,000 members of the country's
00:29:16.720
National Guard to the U.S.-Mexico border to stop drug trafficking. Scheinbaum made the announcement
00:29:21.200
after speaking earlier in the day with President Trump following his decision to hit the country
00:29:23.900
25% tariffs. She said that Trump administration agreed to pause the implementation of tariffs
00:29:30.200
for one month. Okay. So Trump is apparently pausing the tariffs because we've already gotten,
00:29:38.180
there's already been a response and concessions made by Mexico. And exactly what, this was exactly
00:29:46.580
the point. This is the whole point of the tariffs. It wasn't just something frivolous, just doing
00:29:52.800
it for fun. Um, it was to get precisely this reaction. And it looks like, at least according
00:30:00.600
to this statement from the Mexican president, it looks like, uh, they've already gotten a response.
00:30:08.400
So, uh, you've got Democrats, we just played that clip of the Democrats and that was Chuck
00:30:15.360
Schumer. I think that was yesterday talking about how the Superbowl is going to be ruined because we
00:30:20.020
can't get guacamole and beer. And meanwhile, Trump announces these tariffs and has them in place for
00:30:28.140
like a day and already there's a response. And why, why do we get results that quickly?
00:30:34.960
Well, it's because what else are they going to do? This is what happens when you are the most powerful
00:30:39.880
country in the world and you actually use your power, you wield it without this feeling of like
00:30:45.820
embarrassment about it. What else is Mexico going to do? They can't win a trade war with the United
00:30:52.300
States. They can't win any kind of war with the United States. Obviously the only thing they have
00:30:57.980
to hold over our heads. Well, you just heard Chuck Schumer, well, beer, you're not gonna be able to get
00:31:02.160
guacamole and beer. Now, by the way, guacamole, sure. I think probably in a, in a situation where
00:31:09.560
there's a standoff, um, a Mexican standoff between us and Mexico over tariffs, probably guacamole becomes
00:31:16.200
more expensive, but beer that not, even that is actually not true because Mexico, he claims in that
00:31:24.940
clip that Mexico accounts for most of the beer that's sold in this country. Most, uh, no, the vast
00:31:33.220
majority of beer sales in this country, I think 78 to 80% are domestic beer sales. Now, Mexico accounts
00:31:41.020
for a big chunk of imported beer sold in this country, but that's still a minority of the sales.
00:31:50.280
So all told Mexican beer accounts for like, I think 10 to 15% of the beer sales. And, um,
00:31:56.860
and then there's another chunk that's imported from other countries. And then the vast majority of it
00:32:01.060
is domestic. So, so then what happens? Let's say that this were to, were to play out and we didn't
00:32:08.040
get a concession from Mexico. Um, and then yeah, Corona, which by the way, looks and tastes like,
00:32:15.520
uh, stagnant rainwater that's been sitting in a rusty bucket for, for three weeks. So not much is lost
00:32:23.360
there, but yeah, Corona, uh, becomes more expensive. This Mexican beer becomes more expensive. So then what
00:32:28.820
do, what do American consumers do? Well, you just don't buy that. There's a thousand other options
00:32:34.580
of beer that's brewed right here in the United States. Go support your local brewery. It's not
00:32:39.340
that much more expensive and the beer is way better. So all that ends up happening in that scenario is
00:32:46.220
that these Mexican beer companies are destroyed because American consumers don't need Corona, but
00:32:51.240
you go without it. Like Corona could just cease to exist tomorrow and it would be fine. Like it would
00:32:56.660
not affect anyone's life in this country at all. Um, it wouldn't really affect any of the bars, any of
00:33:02.380
the liquor stores either, because you just replaced that with, with domestic beer. No problem. Um, and as
00:33:09.880
for guacamole, well, yeah, that becomes more expensive and, uh, and you know, but that's like, that's a
00:33:14.560
price that most of us, I think most Americans are willing to pay to keep drugs and poison out of this
00:33:20.820
country. If I got to pay more for guacamole at Chipotle, it's already an upcharge. So add another
00:33:27.340
couple of bucks onto it. You know, you know, if it's that important to you, you'll pay the couple
00:33:32.020
bucks. If not, you can just go without guacamole, not the end of the world. I like guacamole, not the end
00:33:35.960
of the world though. So that's the position that Mexico's in, which is why, um, there's, there are already
00:33:43.480
concessions. And, um, so we've seen this now with the Trump administration. I mean, the Trump
00:33:48.520
administration is only two weeks old and we've seen now repeatedly, um, how they've, Trump has gotten
00:33:58.300
results by actually, by setting clear, like making clear what you want. Here, here's what America
00:34:08.500
needs. Here's what's in our best interest. You say to the other countries, and if you don't do what we
00:34:17.180
need you to do, then here's going to be the penalty. And it turns out that when you communicate
00:34:25.420
that clearly with, with, with, and you set the guidelines and you set the ultimatum, it turns
00:34:32.080
out you get results pretty quickly because whether it's Columbia or Mexico or like none of these
00:34:37.620
countries want to tangle with the United States, there's nothing in it for them. And you got all
00:34:43.120
these morons that are talking, talking as though Mexico could win a trade war with the United
00:34:49.600
States. It's, it's, it's, uh, delusional. So already some, uh, results there. Uh, here's another
00:34:58.580
area where, uh, uh, hopefully we'll see some results. And as far as I know, we haven't seen them just yet,
00:35:04.300
but, uh, who knows things are, well, in fact, we, no, well, I'm, I'm, we actually have seen results
00:35:09.000
already on this as well, which we'll talk about in a second, but, uh, Trump last night
00:35:12.360
was, uh, discussing his efforts to take back control of the Panama canal.
00:35:18.940
And, uh, here's what he said about that. Secretary of state Rubio is in Panama, Panama right now. And,
00:35:26.480
uh, we're talking about the Panama canal. What they've done is terrible. They violated the agreement.
00:35:31.920
They're not allowed to violate the agreement. China's running the Panama canal. That was not
00:35:38.580
given to China. That was given to Panama foolishly, but they violated the agreement. And we're going to
00:35:45.060
take it back or something very powerful is going to happen. Okay. So he appears to, to threaten to use,
00:35:51.660
to use force to take back the canal. At least that's how it's being interpreted by a lot of people.
00:35:57.340
Um, or, or maybe he's indicating that taking it back forcefully is an option. So it's not,
00:36:03.980
not exactly a threat. He's not saying, well, give us back the Panama canal. We're going to send troops
00:36:07.860
into Panama. And, and I don't think that that's, I don't see that scenario as, uh, plausible,
00:36:14.940
but you know, he says like, we got to work this out or something very powerful is going to happen.
00:36:22.460
So you can kind of interpret it that the way you want, but there is a clear ultimatum there.
00:36:27.340
Right. And, um, and he's right. He's right on this too, that yes, we should take back control
00:36:35.940
of the Panama canal one way or another. That canal is ours. We should control it. And Trump is right
00:36:42.240
that China right now exerts a lot of influence over the canal. So, uh, there is some real urgency
00:36:47.280
here. And as I alluded to before, Panama, there already are results on this. Uh, it's not settled
00:36:53.960
completely, but Panama has, you know, Rubio, new secretary of state went down to Panama and it
00:36:59.260
was his first international trip of secretary of state. And already Panama has agreed, uh, to end
00:37:05.280
a deal with China that had been on the table. So this is being handled diplomatically. Hopefully it
00:37:12.480
is all worked out diplomatically. It seems to be trending that way. That obviously is vastly
00:37:17.180
preferable. Um, but one way or another, um, but one way or another, the United States should control
00:37:23.900
the Panama canal. And, um, because that canal is ours and you know, just some basic facts about this,
00:37:33.480
if you're not familiar with, with it or with the history of it, first of all, the vast majority of
00:37:41.180
the ships that go through the canal are coming to or leaving, uh, ports in the United States.
00:37:48.700
So it's about 70% of the traffic is going to the United States or coming from the United States.
00:37:54.520
More importantly, we built the canal. Okay. The United States spent 10 years building the canal
00:38:03.740
at the beginning of the 20th century. Thousands of Americans died in the process. Now I think the
00:38:09.400
official estimates are like 5,000, 6,000 Americans. It was probably way more than that. Um, but,
00:38:14.560
but thousands, either way, thousands of Americans died building the canal. It's one of the greatest
00:38:19.900
construction projects ever undertaken in human history. Um, one of the greatest engineering marvels
00:38:26.620
in the history of humanity. I mean, they cut a hole in the earth from one ocean to another.
00:38:34.540
It's like inconceivable how they did it. I, I've read a couple of books now in the Panama Canal and
00:38:40.120
even after reading the books, in fact, even more so after reading the books and learning about the
00:38:46.460
process, it's, you can't wrap your, your, your mind around it. How is that possible?
00:38:52.760
Just imagine that like, imagine, uh, like it's one thing when you're, if you go, if you go to the
00:39:00.160
Panama Canal, which I never have been, but, and you look at it when it's already constructed,
00:39:03.640
but imagine standing on that plot of land, uh, before anything was constructed when it was just
00:39:12.280
a jungle, because that's what it was. And like trying to conceptualize how we're going to dig a
00:39:19.600
giant hole that goes from this ocean all the way to the next one across. We're going to,
00:39:26.840
we're going to split these two continents in two. Um, and that's what America did.
00:39:34.380
And this country built it and paid for it. This was American grit and ingenuity. And we paid for
00:39:41.480
it with, with, with American treasure and American blood. So why in the hell should anyone but America
00:39:47.620
have control over it? Why should Panama have control over? Panama didn't build it. Panama didn't
00:39:54.680
build it. They didn't, they didn't pay for it. And they're not even the ones who are mostly using
00:40:00.520
it. America built it, paid for it. And is the 70% of the time we're the ones using it.
00:40:10.320
No other country was able to build it. The French tried to build it and failed.
00:40:13.720
And we did it. We built it. And then about 60 years later, Jimmy Carter, the incompetent buffoon
00:40:21.300
that he was gave the canal away. He just gave it away. It is one of the most one-sided deals in
00:40:26.740
history. And yet the, you know, this, this idiot and to call Jimmy Carter a buffoon or an idiot,
00:40:33.560
I think is probably cutting him too much slack because he was also just a bad guy. He was a bad
00:40:41.440
leader and a bad man. And by the way, I know that he, he lived for a long time afterwards and,
00:40:47.500
but that doesn't all of a sudden change the fact that he was a bad leader and a bad person.
00:40:51.540
And he did a lot of terrible things and he caused immeasurable, he did it. This man did
00:40:55.880
immeasurable damage to the country, but then he lived till he was a hundred. And so all of a sudden
00:41:00.620
it doesn't count anymore because for people in my generation or younger, we only remember Jimmy
00:41:06.620
Carter as this kind of frail old man, just kind of sitting there all shriveled up. And so it,
00:41:13.500
because of that, he sort of like bought goodwill because he was just really old for a long time.
00:41:19.100
But that doesn't change the fact that he was a terrible, terrible president
00:41:28.700
And this is not the only bad thing he did, but it's one of the worst. And he considered it to be
00:41:34.280
his like crowning achievements. One of his crowning achievements he thought
00:41:37.280
was this deal of giving away the Panama Canal, which how is that an achievement?
00:41:44.720
You gave someone, you gave a thing of immense value to another country and they gave you nothing
00:41:51.940
in return. And that's an achievement. You know, that's like if, that's like if I considered it an
00:41:57.280
achievement because I worked out a deal with you where I would give you a million dollars
00:42:02.920
and you give me nothing. Maybe not nothing. Maybe, maybe, uh, I bought a toothpick from you for a
00:42:10.480
million dollars. And then for the rest of my life, I brag that I just, I just made this incredible
00:42:16.580
deal. I convinced you, I convinced you to give me a toothpick for just a million dollars.
00:42:23.360
What a deal making genius I am. Except it's worse than that because at least if I gave you a million
00:42:30.200
dollars, uh, well, I earned the million, I can spend it how I want. It's my million. But in the
00:42:37.580
case of the Panama Canal, Jimmy Carter didn't build it. It, it, it never would have been built under his
00:42:43.380
leadership because he was a weak, feckless, corrupt leader who couldn't do anything. Um, no, he didn't
00:42:49.600
build it. You know, he, instead he, he took a massive dump all over the Americans who struggled
00:42:56.160
and died for years to build it and decided to just give it away. Now the real reason that it was given
00:43:05.400
away was just a sense of white guilt. Really? That's what it was. It was just this, this, this
00:43:13.000
sacrifice on the altar of white guilt because we're, you know, America's a predominantly white country,
00:43:20.120
even more so back when the back when Jimmy Carter was in office. And, um, and so it, it, it, it was
00:43:28.020
like, we have no right to it. Um, and so that's really what it was. But beyond that, ostensibly,
00:43:35.560
the reason that it was done was to improve relations with Latin America. That's the reason that would
00:43:41.160
was given. And the problem is that first of all, we're in a position of power, so we don't need to
00:43:49.560
give them this gift that costs billions of dollars and thousands of lives just to improve relations.
00:43:56.440
We don't need to bribe them. Okay. We don't have to bribe Panama to make them like us.
00:44:04.420
Who gives a if they like us or not? If you don't give it to us, we're going to not like you. Okay.
00:44:10.980
Then don't. What do we care? What possible difference does it make? What you think of us,
00:44:16.660
but also how did that work out? Jimmy, how did it work out? Uh, given the Panama Canal to improve
00:44:24.900
relations with Latin America, how did that pan out? Well, I'll tell you how it panned out.
00:44:30.860
Latin America has spent the, uh, the following 40 years shipping drugs and criminals into our country,
00:44:37.320
utterly decimating our national sovereignty while killing thousands of more Americans.
00:44:42.000
So that's what they gave us. I said that they gave us nothing in exchange to Panama, Panama Canal.
00:44:46.800
I'm wrong. That's what they gave us. So as this great token of, of, uh, good faith to Latin America,
00:44:54.100
we gave them the Panama Canal and in exchange, they gave us crime and drugs for 40 years.
00:45:01.560
That that's the improved relations with Latin America is that.
00:45:04.580
So, um, so now Trump wants the Panama Canal back and I hope he gets it. And look, uh, I know that,
00:45:12.980
you know, the response is going to be, well, it was a treaty. It's a legal agreement. There's nothing
00:45:17.220
you could do. First of all, Panama has almost certainly violated the terms of the treaty.
00:45:24.920
It would not be that hard to take a look at it and find myriad ways that they violated the treaty,
00:45:30.140
which would justify us saying treaty has been violated. It's it's, it's, it is now defunct. You
00:45:35.920
violated it. I mean, one of the aspects of the treaty was neutrality that the canal is supposed to
00:45:45.140
remain neutral. And yet you've got China down there exerting a, a, a, a, a outsized influence,
00:45:52.580
extending their tentacles from the other side of the globe. So that alone, we'd be perfectly
00:46:01.220
justified in saying you violated the treaty. That's really the answer to the whole thing about
00:46:05.500
the treaty. But then also look, I mean, Jimmy Carter had no right to give it away. Are, are we
00:46:17.140
beholden forever to this terrible, awful deal that is like, that hurts America? It, so how long,
00:46:26.620
I mean, a thousand years from now, we still, it never changes. Um, even though Panama is this tiny
00:46:37.200
little speck of a country with no power at all. And I mean, we could just show up and say,
00:46:43.820
we're taking the canal back. You can do literally nothing about it. We could do that.
00:46:51.440
Uh, but, uh, you got to respect the treaty. All right, fine. Well, take it's, it's, it's,
00:46:56.280
that's the thing about contracts is like, if, if you get some lawyers in a room, they're very good
00:47:00.500
at this and they can figure out ways that the contract was violated. They can, they can figure
00:47:04.500
out, like I said, they can figure out a thousand ways. And so have them do that. I'm sure they already
00:47:08.320
have. Here's a thousand ways Panama, uh, vitally the treaty. So we're taking them canal back.
00:47:14.280
We could do it legally. If it makes everyone feel more comfortable with it. Let's get to the
00:47:21.040
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All right. I know three Matts. One is my second daughter's husband. One is my fourth daughter's
00:48:42.020
boyfriend. One is you. You're the only Mat I like. Well, look, give those other Matts a chance is all
00:48:50.520
I'm going to say. I mean, they're not going to be as good as me, but you can't hold them to that
00:48:54.780
standard. I'm the top of the Mat pile here, but they got their names right, at least. That's got to
00:49:01.320
count for something. It can't be all bad. Matt, it totally amazes me how you can start the day by
00:49:11.020
talking about the serious matter of possible DEI issues with traffic controllers and helicopters
00:49:15.940
and planes, potential crashes, and then move to onesies and the snap versus the zipper. I just want
00:49:21.540
you to know that every time I listen to you and watch your facial expressions, I grin from ear to
00:49:25.200
ear, shake my head, and wonder, how in the world did God give you such a comical, sarcastic, and wise
00:49:29.520
mind? Like I said, you can always send me compliments and I'll read them. Well, I appreciate
00:49:35.440
that. And, you know, what you've just pointed to is the reason to love the show or, but also
00:49:40.100
the reason to hate it. It just depends on, you can go either way. It depends on how you're wired
00:49:45.140
because we will move seamlessly from really important topics to the pettiest stuff imaginable.
00:49:50.720
And I will discuss all of them with an equal level of seriousness and I will discuss all of them at
00:49:57.300
length. So you either appreciate that or you're repulsed by it and there's not a lot of room in
00:50:04.540
between. As a father of three, I'm glad Matt is finally addressing the snapping onesies. I refuse to
00:50:10.560
buy them after our first and only ones we had were gifted to us. They're a nightmare when doing late
00:50:14.840
night feeding or diaper changes. Yeah, they really are. I hate dealing with them when I'm changing
00:50:20.720
diapers. I mean, if I ever did change a diaper, I would hate it. I'd hate dealing with them.
00:50:27.840
I'm kidding. Of course I do. Every time I make this joke, people get really upset.
00:50:32.980
I do change diapers. Not, not like directly. I don't directly, but, but I, I I'm involved. I
00:50:39.820
facilitate, I facilitate and delegate the changing of the diapers. I pay for the diapers. So I'm very
00:50:46.860
much involved. I am involved in the process of changing the diapers, but you know, in terms of
00:50:51.580
the actual physical labor of it, that's not so much my role. That's not, that's not where I excel
00:50:56.960
is in the changing of the diapers. Let's see. But Matt, the snap on the onesies can help keep your
00:51:04.480
baby warm. Like when you're changing the diaper, you can only have to open the bottom snaps instead of
00:51:08.460
unzipping the entire onesie and exposing the baby's chest to the cold. Come on, man. Think
00:51:12.360
look, the baby will be fine. I mean, what do you mean exposing the baby to the cold?
00:51:16.920
You have heat in your house, don't you? What are you living in the 17th century? You got,
00:51:20.960
you got one candle in your kitchen, heating the whole house. Baby's not going to freeze while
00:51:28.120
you're changing. By the way, my wife has given me the same speech. We've had the snap discussion.
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What are you going to keep? Cause you want to keep, cause they're going to get cold when you're
00:51:36.280
Eskimos have babies for God's sake. Like they live in igloos with their babies. Okay. So you think
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about that. And here you think that your baby needs a snap on onesie so that, you know, the child
00:51:50.200
doesn't get hypothermia while you're changing a diaper for 90 seconds. Matt, are you mixing up
00:51:56.420
onesies with footie pajamas? I've never seen zippers on onesies, but I'm also, I've also never seen
00:52:01.300
snaps on footie pajamas. Maybe I'm too old. You know, there've been a lot of comments like this.
00:52:05.640
There were a lot of comments claiming that I don't know what a onesie is. Um, saying I'm confused
00:52:11.440
about what a onesie is. Like, don't come at me with that. All right. Miss me with that. Miss me
00:52:16.420
with that, bro. All right. Dead ass. I know what a onesie is. Actually a onesie is a one piece garment.
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Technically. That's what a onesie is. That's why it says one. So if the whole outfit comes in
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one piece, it's a onesie. All right. So yeah, I'm talking about snap on onesies. The ones that are
00:52:37.180
a torturous to put on a baby that have like 95 snaps and you have to assemble them. When you lay
00:52:43.100
them out, they're like flat. It's like a flat piece of fabric and you have to fold them and assemble
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them and snap them. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the ones that have the three
00:52:52.700
snaps at the crotch. Like, that's not what I mean. So the full on snap on pajama things is what I'm
00:52:58.760
in. And yes, those are one. Those are onesies. So get out of my comments with the, those aren't
00:53:03.080
any one piece outfit is. So that means what that means. Yes. Batman wears a onesie. Spider-Man
00:53:12.300
wears a onesie. Like I got, I got news for you. That's what it means. Tell me, I don't know what a
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onesie is. Do you know, like 60% of all onesie purchases in the United States for the last 10 years
00:53:23.780
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Well, I hadn't planned to talk about this again today, but people won't stop being stupid about it.
00:54:15.900
And when people are being stupid on the internet on those very rare occasions, I have no choice but
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to respond. So on Friday, we discussed the controversy bubbling around J.D. Vance after he
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had the audacity to suggest that we as human beings have a special responsibility to our own families
00:54:31.200
and communities and country. He provocatively claimed that you should be more concerned about
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caring for your own child than caring for someone else's child in a country 5,000 miles away.
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But there's this old school, and I think it's a very Christian concept, by the way, that you love
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your family, and then you love your neighbor, and then you love your community, and then you love
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your fellow citizens in your own country. And then after that, you can focus and prioritize the rest of
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the world. A lot of the far left has completely inverted that. They seem to hate the citizens
00:55:06.160
of their own country and care more about people outside their own borders. That is no way to run
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a society. And I think the profound difference that Donald Trump brings to the leadership of this
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country is the simple concept, America first. It doesn't mean you hate anybody else. It means
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that you have leadership, and President Trump has been very clear about this, that puts the interests
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of American citizens first. In the same way that the British prime minister should care about Brits,
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and the French should care about the French, we have an American president who cares primarily
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about Americans, and that's a very welcome change.
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What is President Xi doing? What is Vladimir Putin doing?
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He's looking after the Chinese. Putin is looking after the Russians. They're entitled to do that.
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Thank God we now have an American president who's looking after the citizens of his own country.
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As we talked about on Friday, this very obviously correct observation, one that is both
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biblically sound and self-evident to any functioning human being, nonetheless provoke great outrage on
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the left. And the outrage has yet to subside. They feel they must object to Vance's utterly
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sensible statements about prioritizing your own family and nation over nations and families across
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the globe because they believe, or feel obliged to pretend they believe, that our borders should
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be open and that we have a moral obligation to welcome and care for an infinite stream of third
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world immigrants. And this is why a large gaggle of self-satisfied college professors and alleged
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theologians, midwits who tragically see themselves as geniuses, this is why they started posting smarmy
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rebuttals claiming that Vance's position is unbiblical, quote, pagan, quote, tribal, and a, quote,
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false gospel. And of course, this is all coming from atheists, heretics, apostates, false teachers like
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Father James Martin, who will just as confidently assure us that the gospel endorses same-sex marriage
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and the chemical castration of gender-confused minors. So these are people who only open the Bible
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so that they can spit on it and defile it, and yet they pretend to be, in situations like this,
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authorities on a book that they've obviously never read. And if they did read it, they would find that
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Vance's idea about the proper ordering of loves is, again, not only self-evident and common sense,
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but also explicitly outlined in the scripture. 1 Timothy 5.8, for example, says that anyone who does
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not provide for his relatives, especially those of his own household, has denied his faith. Or you could
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also flip all the way back to the Old Testament to something called the Ten Commandments, and there
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we're told to honor our father and mother. Now, it doesn't say, honor your father and mother and also
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the fathers and mothers of all the people all across the world. No, honor your own father and mother.
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This is God himself engraving in stone the special obligation we have to our own family members.
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As for our neighbors, we're told not to bear false witness against them, not to be covetous of their
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property or envious of their lives, but it doesn't tell us to honor our neighbors. That command and
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that phrasing is reserved specifically and especially for our parents. In fact, here's something
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interesting. If you follow the Ten Commandments from number one down to number 10, you'll find that
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first our obligations to God are outlined, then our obligations to family, and then our obligations to
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our neighbors. So the hierarchy of love, the order of love, is literally and numerically laid out in
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the Ten Commandments. But the dumbest rebuttal of all came yesterday, and this is why I've been forced
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to revisit the topic today. The sheer force of the dumbness compels me, almost as though the dumbness
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has actual mass and exerts its own gravitational pull upon me. Somebody named Scott Alexander posted this.
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He apparently has a blog where he claims to write about science and philosophy. He's also, I'm told
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by Wikipedia, a psychiatrist in San Francisco. And we know that about 85% of the worst ideas in the
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history of the world have originated from psychiatrists in San Francisco. So this is no
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surprise. Explains why he tweeted this, quote, I went on a walk and saw a child drowning in the river.
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I was going to jump in and save him when someone reminded me that I should care about family members
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more than strangers. So I continued on my way and let him drown. This is the argument presented by
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an alleged philosophy writer. It is a thought experiment meant to reveal the absurdity of
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Vance's position. But instead, all it reveals is that Scott Alexander has the comprehension skills
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of a carrot cake. Okay, the first problem is that clearly there is a significant difference between a
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child drowning in front of you in a river and millions of immigrants all across the world.
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The point of his analogy is to explain why we're morally obliged to open our borders to an endless
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army of third world migrants. So he's not talking about, he's actually not talking about saving just one
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child in a river. He's actually suggesting that we must save millions of children from every river in the
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world. So yes, Scott, I agree that I should and I would save a child drowning in a river if I happen to
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stumble upon the scene while going for a walk. But what if I didn't see him drown? What if I decided
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to stay home? Is his death still my fault? Did I somehow fail in some sort of duty to go out looking
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for drowning children? Is America on the hook to provide shelter and aid and a home to every impoverished
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person everywhere in the world indefinitely? Are we allowed to stay home as it were, shut the door and
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focus on our own home, our own nation? But we still haven't really gotten to the point. Because what
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makes Scott's argument so incredibly, almost unfathomably stupid is that it actually proves
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Vance's point perfectly. Scott has found the perfect thought experiment to confirm Vance's
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argument beyond any shadow of a doubt. All we have, and it's so good that I almost, I wish I had
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thought of it when we talked about this on Friday, which is one of the reasons why I'm talking about
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it now. All we have to do is make one adjustment so that it actually reflects the point that he was
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making. Okay? If you're walking alone and you see a child alone drowning in the river, well, there's
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no reason why prioritizing your family would prevent you from saving the child. It's just the child
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drowning. Now, even if you do care more about your family than you do about strangers, which you should,
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there's still no reason why you wouldn't save the child in that scenario, right? There's no competition
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here between your own child and this child in the river. Now, sure, I mean, if the child is drowning
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in a fast-flowing river 20 feet from a massive waterfall or something, and you have children
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at home and a family to care for, then that might give you reason to pause before going on a suicide
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mission to save a stranger. But even so, if there's a reasonable hope of saving the child, then I think
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most people would take the risk and should. I would. Still, this scenario doesn't adequately reflect
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Vance's point. Vance's point is more like this. You're walking along a riverbank. Suddenly, you see a
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child drowning 50 yards off in the river. Then you notice 50 yards back in the other direction,
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your own child drowning. Okay, so you got a child you don't know and your own child both drowning in
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the same river. And they're a hundred yards apart in this case. You can't save them both at the same
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time. You have to save one first, and the other one will most likely die, tragically. So, which child
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do you save first? Your own or the stranger? What would you do, Scott? Your child is drowning, shouting
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to you, screaming, Dad, save me. Would you do what any morally sane human being would do, what any decent
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father would do, what any human who is not a psychopath would do, and immediately jump in to save your own
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child first? And then if you get him back to safety and the other child is still above the surface, or even
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if he's not, at that point, you jump in to save the other child, when tragically, it's probably going
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to be too late, but you would at least attempt, but you're going to get your own child first. Is that
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what you would do? Or would you stay true to your enlightened liberal principles and demonstrate your
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commitment to equity and inclusivity by leaving your child to drown while you swim off in the opposite
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direction to save some other kid you've never met before? Would you shout to your child,
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sorry son, but I don't recognize any special obligation to love you? I love all human beings across the world
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equally. Is that what you would do? Now, if you would not do that, if you would, without hesitation,
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prioritize your own child and save him first, then you actually understand Vance's point perfectly well.
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You have a hierarchy in your own mind and heart, an ordering of loves, and you recognize intuitively
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that you are called to protect, love, and serve your own family before anybody else.
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You, in fact, love your child more than you love that other child. You love the other child in a sort
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of general and charitable sense because he's a fellow human being, because he is a child,
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child, but you love your child even more because he is yours. He's your flesh. You are tied to him by
01:04:57.800
blood. You have known him from his first breath. And even before that, you are called by God to protect
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him with your life and to give your life for his. It is a deeper and stronger love, which is also why
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you would mourn the death of your own child much, much more than you would mourn the death of any other
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child. If a child drowns in the river and you hear about it on the news, you'd be very sad for him
01:05:20.100
and his family. And then after hearing about it on the news and being very sad, you would still go
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about your day. But if your child drowns in the river, you will be crushed as though a 10-ton boulder
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had been dropped on your head, and you will mourn him and grieve his loss every day of your life until
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you die. So the outside world sees the death of your child and the child down the street as tragedies
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of equal proportion. And objectively, they're right. But they're not equal to you because that is your
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child. Now, do I really need to explain this? Is there any chance that Scott would actually tell me
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that he would save the other child instead of his own? Or even that he'd have to think about it?
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Would Scott insist that he would mourn the death of his own child no differently than he mourns the
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death of anybody else? If so, I certainly hope he doesn't have any kids in real life, because any man
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who is that neutral about his own children is not fit to raise them. But the good news is that Scott is
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almost certainly full of crap. He understands the basic concept of prioritizing the people closest to
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us. He does it every day. It would be impossible to maintain any healthy human relationship if you
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didn't do that every day. And I'm going to assume that Scott has at least a few healthy human
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relationships. Though that may be a bold assumption to make about a psychiatrist from San Francisco.
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But in any case, this river thought experiment that Scott accidentally gave us absolutely proves J.D.
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Vance's point. If you would save your own child first, you agree with J.D. Vance. Period. End of story.
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If you wouldn't save your own child first, you are a psychotic monster and should lose custody of your
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kids. Those are really the only two options here. It's not a false dichotomy. It's just the actual
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dichotomy. You are either the type of person who would save your own child, or you're the type of
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person who would let him drown. Now, I'm not sure how many people would actually be in the latter camp
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when push comes to shove, but I do know that a lot of people on the left, especially the intellectual
01:07:36.560
leaders on that side, claim they're in that camp. So either way, they are horrifically and embarrassingly
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wrong, and they are today, of course, canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for
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watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.