The Matt Walsh Show - February 11, 2025


Ep. 1534 - Trump Goes To War Against Fake Science


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00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, millions of dollars have been wasted funding political propaganda
00:00:03.620 masquerading as scientific research. It's fraud, plain and simple, and Trump administration is
00:00:07.640 trying to put an end to it. Also, why were taxpayers funding Sesame Street in Iraq? A
00:00:12.100 Democratic senator says this was necessary for the sake of national security. We'll listen to
00:00:16.300 his argument and discuss. And the army releases its first effective recruitment ad in many years.
00:00:21.220 We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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00:01:31.180 endorsement, and I am not a client of the firm. Just a couple of years ago, if you can believe it,
00:01:36.080 leading scientists from all over the country held a symposium in Washington, along with federal
00:01:40.220 officials from the National Science Foundation, the National Institutes of Health, and the White House
00:01:44.940 Office of Science and Technology Policy. Now, according to a senior director at the NIH,
00:01:50.440 the point of the symposium was to address a defining issue of the current era. So the A-team was
00:01:56.540 going to tackle one of the most difficult and pressing matters in the entire field of scientific
00:02:01.140 and medical research. Hearing that, you might conclude that these scientists were going to
00:02:06.240 discuss, say, a cure for cancer or a major breakthrough in gene editing. Or if nothing else,
00:02:13.380 they might talk about the development of the 50th COVID booster or something like that. Surely at a
00:02:18.320 minimum, they would discuss a topic that had some kind of relevance to the fields of health or science
00:02:23.340 or technology. Those would all seem to be safe assumptions. And yet, at the risk of spoiling
00:02:28.380 the symposium for you, in case you were hoping to catch a rerun, that didn't happen. In fact,
00:02:33.980 that didn't even come close to happening. Instead, here's what they came up with at this symposium
00:02:39.200 full of leading medical and scientific experts in Washington. The first speaker in this clip is a
00:02:43.880 professor at Notre Dame. The second one is from the National Institutes of Health. Just see for yourself.
00:02:50.360 LGBTQ plus students are more likely to leave STEM majors in favor of non-STEM majors by the end of their
00:02:56.360 fourth year of college. There are STEM-specific challenges here that we need to be understanding
00:03:01.800 and addressing. We can't simply say that queer populations are underrepresented in STEM because
00:03:07.580 they struggle broadly academically. Actually, no, they're crushing it academically. They're just being
00:03:13.820 systematically funneled out of STEM and within STEM being mistreated. So, hence the importance of the
00:03:20.940 rest of the research that we'll be hearing from.
00:03:23.820 In D&I, I have two roles in that. One is to, like, increase the engagement of SGM people. And so, I'm
00:03:31.820 meeting with them, talking to them, finding out what they need, what we need as, you know, communities.
00:03:35.820 It's pronouns. If someone's in a lab and being misgendered or if someone's going through the gender
00:03:40.140 affirmation process, I'm there. I'm the one that does that, right? I'm the one that does the Safe
00:03:45.180 Zone trainings quarterly. I'm the one that does it. If the IC is having an issue, I'm brought in
00:03:49.340 to have these conversations. And I feel like, so, that's one role that's really geared towards
00:03:54.700 members of the community itself. But the other is to have these conversations that are very hard
00:03:58.860 with people who are transphobic or homophobic. And I have to hear horrible things, and I'm trans myself.
00:04:05.020 Oh, it's a good thing you clarified that he's trans themselves, because we would have never known.
00:04:10.940 I don't know if we put that piano music in the background or if the NIH did. Either way, it's
00:04:15.980 pretty funny. Now, for a second, try to ignore the fact that these people are making up fake
00:04:21.020 complaints about the plight of LGBTQ people in STEM. Pretend they're not talking like a dime a dozen
00:04:26.940 panelists on MSNBC instead of actual scientists. That's not actually the worst part of the footage.
00:04:31.660 The worst part is that already you could tell that everyone at this symposium is saying the
00:04:37.420 same thing. There's no debate. This whole event was an extended struggle session in which only one
00:04:43.420 point of view was allowed. And that point of view is that, for some reason, gay people are being forced
00:04:49.340 out of math classes. They're being systemically funneled out of math and science somehow.
00:04:56.620 Now, it should go without saying that this is a complete bastardization of everything scientists
00:05:00.700 should be doing. They're supposed to be asking questions, using the scientific method, and
00:05:06.300 finding evidence to support every single one of their conclusions. This is supposed to come
00:05:10.460 naturally to them. I mean, it is their job. Instead, they spent the entire event explaining why it's
00:05:16.460 important to think the exact same way about this particular issue, even though every same person
00:05:22.220 knows that their theory makes absolutely no sense. For example, as the symposium goes on,
00:05:26.780 one researcher with a non-profit attempts to articulate why it's so important to hold these
00:05:32.300 kinds of struggle sessions. And then a senior official at the National Science Foundation offers
00:05:36.860 his take on it. Listen.
00:05:39.260 Oftentimes, I get asked this question of, if you ask about these questions, aren't you creating
00:05:45.980 division where there isn't any? This doesn't matter to science. Science is objective. And so,
00:05:51.100 why are we asking these questions? And the reality is that when we don't ask these questions, we live
00:05:55.740 under the myths that these matters don't matter. And that, actually, science is such a pure meritocracy
00:06:02.860 that us, we don't need to check and see our certain groups being equitably served.
00:06:07.980 It's important because, you know, the data changes the conversation from just being opinion-based
00:06:14.140 to evidence-based. And I agree with you. We shouldn't have to wait on the data. We know
00:06:17.180 we got an issue. We should just be like Nike. Just do it.
00:06:21.020 So, every speaker is somehow more unbelievable than the last one. The first guy is trying desperately to
00:06:25.820 explain why they're holding this symposium at all. The best he can come up with is, quote,
00:06:30.540 when we don't ask these questions, we live under the myths that these matters don't matter.
00:06:35.420 This is the kind of word salad that you have to produce when you know that, in fact,
00:06:39.660 these matters do not matter. And that all of these concerns are completely made up.
00:06:44.780 And also, anyway, have nothing to do with science. And then the official from the National Science
00:06:49.580 Foundation comes in and pretty much makes that point as explicitly as he can. He says that, quote,
00:06:54.060 we shouldn't have to wait on the data because we know we've got an issue. So, like Nike,
00:06:59.500 we should just do it. That's science for you. Don't wait on the data. Just do it.
00:07:08.460 In other words, who cares about facts and data when you have a narrative to push?
00:07:15.100 All he knows is that we need DEI in affirmative action in science and medicine. He doesn't care
00:07:18.700 if there's no reason whatsoever to justify any of this. Doesn't matter if there's data. Doesn't
00:07:22.780 matter if there's evidence. He just knows that it needs to happen. Now, for a long time,
00:07:27.820 the National Science Foundation, along with the NIH and many other federal agencies,
00:07:32.620 have all operated like this. They rake in billions of dollars worth of tax revenue with
00:07:36.620 the promise of funding scientific advancements that benefit America. Then they're squandered.
00:07:41.740 They've squandered it to advance a political agenda. And to be clear, I'm not cherry picking
00:07:46.700 sound bites here or taking anything out of context. This is something we can quantify.
00:07:50.780 The Senate Commerce Committee just released a report documenting precisely how much money
00:07:56.060 the National Science Foundation, or NSF, has wasted in recent years. And again,
00:08:01.740 this is an agency of the federal government we're talking about here. The Daily Wire report
00:08:05.740 says, quote,
00:08:06.540 In other words, one in 10 grants have been completely fraudulent. Which isn't to say that
00:08:24.620 the other nine out of 10 were not fraudulent. But this one in 10, we know for sure were.
00:08:29.500 There's no reason we should have been funding any of this. But the Biden administration made sure that
00:08:35.260 we did. They kickstarted a lot of this fraudulent spending. The Senate report found that in 2021,
00:08:39.820 the first year of the Biden administration, less than 1% of grants from NSF were focused on DEI
00:08:47.020 initiatives, which is still too much. But by 2024, after three years of the Biden administration,
00:08:52.460 more than a quarter of new grants to the NSF pushed far left perspectives, quote unquote.
00:09:00.220 Now, the Daily Wire has a searchable database of these grants right now on the website. You can page
00:09:04.220 through around 3,000 grants from the National Science Foundation that involved DEI. For example,
00:09:09.980 in 2022, NSF gave Columbia University more than $4 million so they could study ways to decolonize
00:09:17.340 geoscience. Meanwhile, a professor at Northwestern received a million dollars in 2023 so that he
00:09:23.180 could put together story work for racial equity in STEM, featuring insights from Karl Marx. Over at
00:09:29.820 the University of Pittsburgh, a professor received a million dollars to argue that artificial intelligence
00:09:35.900 should not be neutral because that, quote, only serves the capitalist, racist, heteronormative,
00:09:40.540 patriarchal, et cetera society. I love the et cetera there. So even they don't feel the need to
00:09:46.300 list all the stuff, you know, homophobic, racism, et cetera. You know, all the stuff we always say.
00:09:51.980 Another study funded by the NSF to the tune of $500,000 determined that the concept of peer review
00:09:58.140 was racist. Quote, the accepted values and practices in science can serve as roadblocks and barriers to
00:10:04.620 the inclusion and advancement of minoritized scholars. So again, there are thousands of grants like this.
00:10:12.380 We're not talking about one or two examples. This is systemic fraud. And the only way to deal with
00:10:19.020 systemic fraud like this is to clean house at the National Science Foundation, which is exactly what
00:10:23.020 the Trump administration is now doing. Just because it feels appropriate, I'll read some reporting on
00:10:28.300 this development from Politico, which is yet another organization that's just had its federal funding cut
00:10:32.380 dramatically. Quote, one of the United States' leading funders of science and engineering research is
00:10:37.820 planning to lay off between a quarter and half of its staff in the next two months, a top NSF official
00:10:43.900 said Tuesday. The comments by Assistant Director Susan Margulies came at an all-hands meeting of the NSF's
00:10:50.940 engineering directorate. A large-scale reduction in response to the president's workforce executive
00:10:55.740 orders is already happening, a spokesperson for the Office of Personnel Management said.
00:10:59.500 Now, as significant as this development is, it's important to keep in mind that NSF is just one
00:11:06.380 small part of the much larger fraud that's been taking place in the government when it comes to
00:11:10.380 research funding. The National Institutes of Health is a far bigger offender in terms of financial waste.
00:11:16.060 Dodes just found that the NIH had a contract worth more than $180 million for administrative expenses
00:11:24.220 that didn't involve health care in any way. And that included, among many other things, a contract to build
00:11:30.940 a Tony Fauci exhibit at the NIH museum, just for one example. Now, the Trump administration has also found that
00:11:38.540 the NIH spends vast amounts of its research budget on so-called indirect costs. And what does that mean? Well, last year,
00:11:45.780 roughly $9 billion of the $35 billion that NIH spent on research ultimately went to these indirect costs, which is a fancy way of
00:11:53.980 saying administrative overhead for universities and research institutions. And for some institutions,
00:11:59.180 these indirect costs amounted to more than 60% of their total grant funding. So what that means,
00:12:05.900 in other words, in a million-dollar grant to conduct cancer research, more than $600,000 might be going to
00:12:12.700 non-research expenses like office supplies and things like that. Now, of course, in almost every case, there's no reason
00:12:19.500 for this. There's no reason for Harvard or Yale to rake in huge amounts of money for non-scientific purposes
00:12:25.900 when the grant is supposedly a scientific grant. It's just a pure grift in every sense. So now the
00:12:33.100 Trump administration is ending this practice. They're capping these administrative payouts to around 15%
00:12:37.660 of the total grant. Now, what you may not know is that this is not the first time Donald Trump has tried to do
00:12:45.260 this. As the New York Times reports, quote, in 2017, during Mr. Trump's first term, a similar proposal
00:12:50.380 would have reduced the overhead payments to 10% of the award amount. The effort faltered. Congress then
00:12:56.220 acted to ward off a future effort and passed a budget bill that prohibited changing the fees for
00:13:01.500 the levels that had been negotiated between federal officials and each research institutions.
00:13:07.020 In other words, the first Trump administration tried to cut waste at the NIH, but Congress shut him
00:13:11.980 down. They actually passed an appropriations bill that prevented him from cutting the administrative
00:13:17.340 funding. And now, citing that appropriations law, a new lawsuit is trying to stop Trump again from
00:13:22.700 cutting this waste. And so far, the plan is working. The other day, a federal judge halted the NIH cuts
00:13:28.780 with a preliminary injunction. And this has been happening constantly, as you may have noticed.
00:13:32.940 Individual federal judges have also blocked the Treasury Secretary's access to internal files,
00:13:38.940 prevented Doge's buyout offer for federal workers from going through, and attempted to block the
00:13:44.300 closure of USAID. So it's clear that this will be a theme of the second Trump presidency, as it was in
00:13:50.460 the first one. Judges are going to do everything they can to just overturn what voters want, which is
00:13:55.580 for the executive branch to determine how the executive branch operates. But already there are signs,
00:14:02.380 most notably from J.D. Vance, that this administration recognizes that these judges are breaking the law,
00:14:08.940 and that their rulings may not be respected, which they shouldn't be. In particular, Vance wrote,
00:14:13.500 quote, if a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal.
00:14:18.780 If a judge tried to command the attorney general in how to use her discretion as a prosecutor,
00:14:23.340 that's also illegal. Judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate power.
00:14:29.420 Now, this is an approach that obviously shouldn't be necessary. If we had judges who respected the
00:14:33.740 separation of powers, it wouldn't be an issue. But increasingly, unelected judges are telling
00:14:38.780 the executive branch how to spend money and who to employ. That's not just unconstitutional,
00:14:44.700 it's also unsustainable. There is zero popular political support for continuing these expenditures
00:14:50.300 to corrupt agencies like NSF and the NIH, which is why the Trump administration should just ignore
00:14:56.460 these judges and do what they're going to do. The judges are acting lawlessly.
00:15:00.220 They have no actual authority to make these kinds of decisions. And we know all that because between
00:15:09.420 these revelations at the NSF, everything that happened with COVID, the embrace of gender theory,
00:15:16.060 mainstream science has just completely discredited itself in historic fashion.
00:15:23.580 So now when the public celebrates as scientists lose their funding and their jobs, you know,
00:15:29.820 the scientists will blame us for being anti-science. But our problem with them is precisely the opposite.
00:15:36.540 The people we've been paying huge sums of money to, we're talking about billions of dollars,
00:15:41.260 have been spending it on political propaganda and social engineering. They've been doing this for decades
00:15:45.660 on the assumption that nobody would ever notice or do anything about it. But now very abruptly,
00:15:50.780 that has changed. Everyone can see that many of these so-called scientists in the federal government
00:15:56.860 were the ones who were actually anti-science all along. And now they're losing their jobs and their
00:16:02.780 infinite supply of taxpayer money. And the work of serious people, of actual scientists,
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00:16:42.780 because why not? Senator Chris Coons was on CNN a couple of days ago and he was asked about USAID,
00:16:49.260 among its many, many, many other wasteful fraudulent expenditures, apparently spending tens of millions
00:16:55.500 of dollars in tax money funding a Sesame Street show in Iraq. And Coons was quite willing and eager to
00:17:05.260 step up to step up to the plate and go to bat for tax funded Sesame Street in the Middle East.
00:17:09.740 And, uh, here's what he said in defense of it.
00:17:13.980 Is funding Sesame Street a judicious use of soft power?
00:17:21.260 Well, Michael, the way you put it is the way I hope folks considering your poll today
00:17:26.220 will think about it. This isn't just funding a kid's show for children, millions of children
00:17:31.900 in countries like Iraq. It's a show that helps teach values, helps teach public health,
00:17:38.060 helps prevent kids from dying from dysentery and disease, and helps push values like collaboration,
00:17:45.660 peacefulness, cooperation in a society where the alternative is ISIS, extremism and terrorism.
00:17:53.180 And to your point, it's pennies on the dollar. The U.S. Department of Defense has an annual budget
00:17:59.580 of about $850 billion. USAID was spending about $30 billion. It is a small proportion of our total
00:18:09.420 federal spending. And as Joe Nye would often say, it's not just soft power, it's smart power.
00:18:15.820 Let me leave you with one other quote, Michael, if I could. Jim Mattis, who is a four star Marine
00:18:20.700 Corps general and Trump secretary of defense in his first term in a hearing back then said,
00:18:26.780 if you slash development and aid spending, then I'm going to need more bullets for our troops.
00:18:35.340 Yes, you heard that correctly. Sesame Street was preventing people from joining ISIS.
00:18:39.900 This was a national defense strategy. You see, it's for national security that we need to fund
00:18:45.420 Sesame Street. Who needs a military, really, when you've got Big Bird and Oscar the Grouch?
00:18:52.460 Chris Coons has a point. I mean, just think about how many times an Islamic militant was about to
00:18:57.340 detonate his suicide vest, but then stopped and asked himself, what would Elmo do in this situation?
00:19:05.580 And then he thought back to the Sesame Street episode where Bert was about to become a suicide
00:19:13.260 bomber. But then Elmo talked him out of it by giving a speech about friendship and cooperation.
00:19:18.860 This is why we spent $20 million on Sesame Street in Iraq. And, you know, you hear about cases like
00:19:25.820 this. I mean, I heard about this is actually a true story that I've read about recently where
00:19:30.700 there was a Taliban, I think it was a Taliban warlord in Afghanistan who was about to execute a man for
00:19:36.860 trimming his beard. And then he remembered a Sesame Street episode where Oscar the Grouch
00:19:41.900 Grouch was about to behead someone until Grover came along and was like, Oscar, why are you being
00:19:48.940 such a grouch? Why are you being so grouchy? Beheading someone. And then Oscar the Grouch thought
00:19:55.340 better of it and didn't. And the Taliban warlord remembered that. And he still beheaded the guy,
00:19:59.580 but he did it with a smile and he had fun. And that's the most important thing, really.
00:20:04.460 Uh, and these are the kinds of scenarios that a United States Senator wants us to believe,
00:20:11.660 I guess, are plausible. When of course, in reality, I don't think it's too controversial
00:20:16.940 to say that a kid who grows up in Iraq, um, it is no matter how much Sesame Street they watch
00:20:25.340 is not going to have Western values. Okay. Sesame Street cannot, you've got, you've got the conditioning
00:20:36.540 of the entire culture that the kid is living in, a culture that is rooted, you know, in, in that area,
00:20:45.660 going back centuries and centuries, thousands of years. Um, I don't think Sesame Street is going to
00:20:52.580 be enough to compete with that, I would say. And besides all of that, even if it could somehow work,
00:21:02.820 we should not be attempting to instill values in foreign people in foreign countries.
00:21:10.420 And it is kind of amazing that here we are in the current year, 2025, and you still have
00:21:16.500 politicians using this same line. You know, it's the line that, that we heard all throughout,
00:21:27.220 you know, the early two thousands and beyond to justify our many misadventures in the, uh,
00:21:34.980 in the middle East that cost us trillions of dollars. Um, and the line was always, well,
00:21:41.780 we're spreading our values. That's not our job. It's not our responsibility. It certainly is not
00:21:47.940 the job of taxpayers to fund. Like I actually don't really care what values somebody in Iraq has.
00:22:00.020 That's, that's their problem to figure out. I mean, they can have, you know,
00:22:05.380 they'll have their own values. They are their own culture, which, um,
00:22:13.460 that's always, always one of the many ironies of this sort of thing is that
00:22:19.940 the people who would tell you like Chris Coons, right? The people who would tell you, well,
00:22:23.940 we need to spread our values. We need to spend billions of dollars, right? Spreading our values
00:22:29.620 across the world. The same people who would say that would also tell you that with a straight face,
00:22:38.900 that every, that all cultures are equal and that we're in no position to judge any other culture.
00:22:46.100 Um, and, and, and yet they want to spread our values. So which is it? If all cultures are equal
00:22:52.260 and, and, you know, and truth is relative and we all live our own truth and they're living their
00:22:57.780 truth and we're living ours, then that's all, that would be all the more reason why,
00:23:01.380 why are we trying to spread our values? That's just, that's just our truth, man.
00:23:08.580 Now I have kind of the opposite view. I don't think that all cultures are equal and I certainly
00:23:14.100 don't think truth is relative or that we all have our own truth. I think that there are cultures that
00:23:19.060 can be inferior to others in pretty much every measurable way and also immeasurable ways.
00:23:24.500 But at the same time, I don't think we should be in the business of spreading our values.
00:23:32.900 Like those two positions are, do not contradict.
00:23:38.100 Like I can look at the culture in Iraq and say, yeah, they got some serious problems,
00:23:45.140 some serious cultural problems. So I can say that,
00:23:49.380 but then also say, yeah, but we shouldn't be spending tens of millions of dollars funding
00:23:55.140 Sesame Street to teach their kids Western values. So those two viewpoints do not, do not clash.
00:24:04.180 But the view that, hey, their culture is equal to ours. We have no, we're in no place to judge.
00:24:10.580 Their culture is just as valid. That view does not mesh at all with,
00:24:15.300 let's spend all this money to spread our values over there.
00:24:19.140 All right. The Army just released a short new recruitment ad and Libs of TikTok posted this
00:24:25.940 along with a stark comparison where you've got an old Army recruitment ad. And when I say an old ad,
00:24:31.140 I mean one from a few years ago that we've played before on this show. And then the new one,
00:24:36.260 which was just released. I think they just, the Army just put it out a couple of days ago.
00:24:40.180 So we'll play them both. First, here's the old woke one, and then we'll do the new one. But let's,
00:24:46.020 let's play the old one.
00:24:50.420 Although I had a fairly typical childhood, took ballet, played violin, I also marched for equality.
00:24:59.300 I like to think I've been defending freedom from an early age.
00:25:02.260 When I was six years old, one of my moms had an accident that left her paralyzed.
00:25:09.780 Doctors said she might never walk again. But she tapped into my family's pride to get back on her
00:25:15.540 feet. Eventually standing at the altar to marry my other mom. With such powerful role models, I
00:25:23.220 finished high school at the top of my class. And then attended UC Davis, where I joined a sorority full of
00:25:29.620 other strong women. But as graduation approached, I began feeling like I'd been handed so much in life.
00:25:37.300 A sorority girl stereotype. Sure, I'd spent my life around inspiring women.
00:25:42.340 I think we've seen enough of that to get the point.
00:25:45.300 So that was, that's the ad that was put out a few years ago. And then just for comparison,
00:25:51.140 here is the ad, a very short ad that the Army just released recently.
00:26:07.940 Stronger people are harder to kill.
00:26:10.980 There you go. That's a 15 second ad that consists of a dude lifting heavy stuff
00:26:16.420 and then saying stronger people are harder to kill. So it's the simplest ad imaginable. And
00:26:23.780 it's also easily the best Army recruitment ad in like, I don't know, 20 years.
00:26:29.620 Right? Which says less about this ad and more about how bad the other ads were.
00:26:35.700 Because I don't think anybody would look at that ad and say, well, that's a marketing genius. It's the
00:26:39.780 greatest ad anyone's ever seen. It's not that. It's just the strategy for military recruitment has
00:26:46.260 been so bad for so long that that stands out. And in the comparison of the two, you see,
00:26:53.380 in essence, the two possible strategies for appealing to potential recruits.
00:26:58.980 And one is to tell them that the military is a place where, you know, small,
00:27:06.020 petite women can follow their dreams and make their lesbian moms proud. That's one strategy.
00:27:13.780 And it's a strategy that the military has been using for a while. The other is to tell them that
00:27:17.780 the Army is a place for strong, badass dudes who want to kill the bad guys.
00:27:24.420 Those are the two pitches boiled down. And the first pitch will attract precisely none of the kinds of
00:27:31.780 people that you need for a strong military. The second will attract those kinds of people.
00:27:37.860 And this has been the fundamental problem with military recruitment for a long time.
00:27:42.100 And the reason for the recruitment crisis, a crisis that seems to be turning around very recently.
00:27:48.100 But a big part of what drove the crisis for as long as it was happening is that the military,
00:27:52.820 or at least the people who design these recruitment ads,
00:27:55.940 have been embarrassed of the military, essentially. It's like the military is embarrassed of itself,
00:28:05.300 embarrassed to talk about what the military actually is, which is an institution for tough
00:28:10.980 men who want to defend their homeland and kill our nation's enemies. You know, and once an institution
00:28:18.260 becomes embarrassed of itself, it starts to collapse and die. We've seen this.
00:28:21.700 We've seen many other examples of this across the West. We've seen this in churches.
00:28:29.380 You know, you've got many churches in Western society who are embarrassed to admit that they are churches.
00:28:38.740 And so they wither and die. They try to present themselves like something other than a church.
00:28:43.940 And you see this from the way that the church services are conducted.
00:28:51.140 You see this from the way the buildings are built now.
00:28:54.820 You know, you could drive by a church these days, especially one of these mega churches.
00:29:01.380 And you would have no idea from the outside that it's even a church.
00:29:04.180 Like, it could look like a stadium or an arena or, you know, a mall or something.
00:29:13.620 And then you go in and you still might not be able to figure it out.
00:29:16.580 You could look at the church from the outside and then go in and sit through a service and
00:29:20.900 still at the end of it be unsure if that was even a church.
00:29:23.060 And the churches that do this end up dying because they don't attract people who actually
00:29:29.940 want to go to a church. And those are the only people who can keep a church alive.
00:29:36.420 Same thing with the military. If you're not bringing in the kinds of people
00:29:41.140 who are interested in the military, not just interested in following their dreams and,
00:29:46.820 you know, uh, becoming a better version of themselves, you know, like this is some sort
00:29:52.660 of self-help seminar, but actually they want to be in the military. They want to do what the
00:29:57.780 military does. If you don't bring those kinds of people in, then the institution dies.
00:30:02.500 Um, and I think this short ad is an early indication that this might be turning around. I mean,
00:30:10.660 you know, not to, not to belabor the point too much, but, and I was thinking about this and I
00:30:15.540 don't know the answer to this, but I'd be very interested if there was any way to find out.
00:30:19.220 Maybe this would be a legitimate use of like chat GPT. I don't know. Um,
00:30:24.660 when was the last time the word kill was used in a military recruitment ad?
00:30:31.940 Think about that. He says stronger people are harder to kill.
00:30:37.140 And in this case, he's not saying kill the enemies, but he's, he's, he's talking about avoiding
00:30:41.540 being killed yourself, but he's acknowledging killing, right? It's an acknowledgement in the ad
00:30:46.900 that killing is involved in the military. Uh, when's the last time that any military,
00:30:53.540 any branch of the military put out an ad that had the word kill in it?
00:30:58.340 I, I would guess it's been,
00:31:02.500 I mean, this is, this is something that goes back a lot farther than the Biden administration.
00:31:05.780 It's, it's probably been decades. Um, and I actually did try to check and I, and I, you know,
00:31:12.740 and I, I didn't spend a lot of time on it, but I, I couldn't find a single instance this century of a
00:31:16.740 U S military recruitment ad, uh, that used the word kill. Now I did find military recruitment ads in
00:31:22.660 other countries like China that did, but, um, not here, even though, and what's the significance of that?
00:31:30.980 Well, obviously it's that killing is the essential function of the military. The military is a killing
00:31:39.860 machine, or at least it's supposed to be. That is the job of the military. Everything that the
00:31:44.980 military does should have the ultimate end of more efficiently and effectively killing the enemy.
00:31:51.140 That's what all of it is designed for. And yet for so long, the recruitment strategy was to not
00:32:01.140 acknowledge this, to just pretend that it's, that it, that, that, that killing isn't even part of the
00:32:08.100 equation at all. Um, and then again, what happens? Well, you don't end up attracting the kinds of men who,
00:32:16.820 uh, young men who actually want to go out and kill the bad guys, but for as long as militaries have,
00:32:26.740 for as long as there's been human civilization, um, you need young men like that. They're the ones who
00:32:34.660 defend, you know, uh, your civilization and you need to be, you need to be able to go out and appeal to
00:32:41.220 them. So I do think that this is a significant step. All right. Caitlin Collins from CNN is, um,
00:32:50.340 back on the late night show circuit. And, um, I have no idea why, you know, Caitlin Collins. I mean,
00:32:57.400 generally people show up to these late night shows. I haven't watched the late night shows in a long
00:33:03.620 time. Uh, cause you know, they're just, they're not funny or entertaining, but generally I think people
00:33:08.980 show up at least historically when I used to watch late night shows on occasion, people show up to
00:33:12.900 the late night shows and they do an interview if they're celebrities with a fan base. Well,
00:33:18.400 what is the Caitlin Collins fan base? Like who's going to hear that Caitlin Collins is going to be
00:33:25.520 interviewed on one of these shows and go, Oh man, I got to see that. Caitlin Collins. I'm a huge fan.
00:33:30.080 I got to see that interview. Who's saying that? I don't think anybody is yet. She gets these
00:33:34.540 interviews anyway. And here she was interviewed by Seth Meyers. So these are maybe the two least
00:33:40.200 interesting people in all of media and entertainment. And they're together in one room creating like a,
00:33:46.040 a black hole of boredom. Uh, but here's how that conversation went. So, uh, you're doing this every
00:33:53.120 day. Uh, you're in DC. The pace of the Trump administration seems to be moving pretty quickly.
00:33:57.960 How are you holding up? Um, it is insane. And I think everyone is kind of like readjusting
00:34:03.780 and re-remembering what it was like four years ago, pre four years ago. I remember when, when
00:34:08.940 Biden first took office in January, the New York times wrote the story about how quiet the weekends
00:34:14.120 were because for reporters, every weekend had just been like another, it was like a seven day work
00:34:18.660 week. And now we're back to that basically where it's just essentially nonstop every day. You kind
00:34:24.060 of wake up like not knowing what you're going to be doing, what the schedule is. I was walking to get
00:34:29.040 breakfast one day this week. I was like, okay, I'm gonna have a nice little breakfast where I go to work.
00:34:32.120 And, uh, halfway there, they're like, Trump's doing a press conference in an hour. And I physically ran
00:34:37.600 back home so I could change and get ready. Oh, you physically ran back home? Did you, Caitlin?
00:34:45.200 Physically? Not spiritually, not metaphorically? You weren't running back home in a poetic sense?
00:34:52.580 You physically, you ran with your legs physically? Wow. Um, and notice how she also said that she's,
00:34:58.200 I mean, I don't mean to get pedantic. Yes, I do. She says that she's re-remembering what it was like
00:35:04.360 with the Trump administration the first time. No, that's not re-remembering, Caitlin. That's just
00:35:09.660 remembering. That's called remembering. What do you mean re-remembering? You talk for a living.
00:35:16.020 I was re-remembering what it was like. Remembering. That's what remembering is, okay? Um, anyway,
00:35:26.480 what I love about the clip is that Collins is admitting and complaining about the fact that
00:35:31.720 Trump is getting a lot done. That he's not even taking weekends off. And, but we're supposed to,
00:35:37.220 but we're, this is Caitlin Collins and this is, so obviously we're supposed, this is not meant to
00:35:42.520 be a compliment of Trump. This is not meant to be a positive. We're supposed to hear this and I
00:35:47.440 don't know, feel sorry for her or something. Uh, but what she's actually saying is that this guy's
00:35:54.340 not taking any time off and he's getting everything done. And, uh, also he's probably what, 40 years
00:36:00.060 older than her and he's moving at a pace that she cannot match. Meanwhile, Joe Biden, by her own
00:36:07.340 admission was getting nothing done. It was boring because he wasn't doing anything, which by the
00:36:13.640 way, having a president who doesn't do anything could be, or doesn't do much, could be all right
00:36:22.100 if the country was not facing multiple major crises. If everything was just kind of sailing along
00:36:31.160 smoothly, well then you don't want, then you don't want your political leaders to just find things to
00:36:36.700 do. But that's not the case. Got major crises on multiple fronts, uh, a lot to do. And yet Joe
00:36:46.620 Biden was, they were bored. They were bored. Uh, but Trump is, um, is even by her own admission,
00:36:56.320 work, working so hard that she can't keep up, which is a very different, you may remember that
00:37:01.900 in the first, uh, Trump administration, the critique that you heard from the media all the time
00:37:07.480 is that Trump was, uh, you know, golfing all the time or whatever, and wasn't paying attention,
00:37:12.120 just watching cable news, tweeting. Uh, you're not hearing that criticism this time.
00:37:18.660 Like they want the guy to go golfing a lot more. They're hoping that he does.
00:37:22.080 Um, they're hoping that he picks up like the tweeting a lot more and, uh, is, is not getting
00:37:29.440 as much done, but I, I, for one, am very happy with this pace. I will say let's get to the comment
00:37:36.020 section. The 13 year old boy who was breaking into houses story. That is the same County, the same
00:37:50.400 sheriff, the same prosecutor that invented the novel legal theory to hold the Oxford school
00:37:54.740 shooter crumbly parents responsible. There's no reason the same people shouldn't apply the same
00:37:59.680 standard they invented. Uh, I didn't even, when I talked about this and drew that comparison,
00:38:04.340 I didn't even realize that. And, um, now I haven't looked this up myself, but that is,
00:38:10.700 yeah, they were, they were in Michigan come to think of it. So if that's true, then that's,
00:38:16.100 I was, I was more right than I even realized. Um, that, you know, as we talked about yesterday,
00:38:22.900 they, they, they're holding these school shooter parents responsible for crimes, their kids commit,
00:38:28.340 which maybe you could support that. Maybe you could agree with that if they applied that standard
00:38:38.380 equally. And then when you've got a kid who's 13 years old and is a serial home invader,
00:38:44.640 you also hold the parents responsible. Uh, and yet they do one and not the other. What I didn't
00:38:50.300 realize when I talked about it is that apparently this is the, it's the same people involved,
00:38:55.280 which is pretty amazing. Two things I learned from this podcast. One, Matt shops at Walmart to
00:39:01.960 Matt buys great value products. Nothing wrong with saving money. I do indeed shop at Walmart.
00:39:06.020 If you live in Nashville, you might run into me at Walmart. Uh, I'm there like twice a week
00:39:10.440 and great value products. Of course, of course you buy the store brand stuff. Uh, it's that's,
00:39:18.960 you know, once you become, that's just, that's just being a parent. It doesn't matter where you
00:39:22.240 are on the, where in the income bracket, it's, um, you, you, when you're a kid, the store brand
00:39:29.120 products are the bane of your existence. And then when you become a parent, you're like, yeah,
00:39:32.060 it's the same stuff. Um, the only exception I will say, so I'll buy the store brands for everything
00:39:40.940 except cereal. That is the one I do think that's the one holdover for my childhood because my
00:39:47.460 parents would buy the store brand cereal for everything. They buy the, you know, uh, store
00:39:53.420 brand Cheerios, store brand frosted mini wheats. And I always thought they actually done it. They
00:39:58.160 said, Oh, it tastes the same. I don't think it tastes the same. I actually think that the,
00:40:01.080 the real stuff tastes better. Uh, so I don't, I don't, that's the one that I don't subject my
00:40:05.420 kids to that. But aside from cereal, it's all store brand stuff. Um, as a white South African
00:40:13.460 from a farming family, thank you. I would give anything to become an American citizen. Things
00:40:17.440 are so scary here and I'm so tired. I want better for my children. There's no future here.
00:40:22.220 You know, there, there are a lot of comments like this. Anyone who doubts, we talked yesterday about
00:40:26.820 the persecution of white farmers in South Africa, which of course is a story that the, uh, mainstream
00:40:33.240 media has been hiding from not acknowledging for many years now, but anyone who doubts anything I
00:40:40.180 said in that monologue or anything that anyone else has said about it, uh, just read the comments
00:40:43.980 under that video. There's, there's many like dozens of comments from people in South Africa saying,
00:40:49.860 yeah, it's that bad here or worse as a woman who never went to college and worked and climbed
00:40:56.560 positions in several industries. And now I'm successfully running my own business. I could
00:41:00.960 fill a book with the amount of people who told me I couldn't do it and tried to stand in my way.
00:41:04.560 They were 99% women, except I would never write a book about it because if I spent time crying over
00:41:09.640 how much people tried to get in my way, I wouldn't have got anywhere. I'm not saying they weren't men
00:41:14.340 who, there weren't men who acted inappropriately at times or perhaps underestimated,
00:41:17.140 underestimated my abilities. Sometimes they were right to underestimate me, but what you do in
00:41:22.520 that situation is put your head down and work. We're not supposed to be the superheroes of our
00:41:26.340 own comic books. The minute you make it about everyone who said you couldn't do it, it literally
00:41:30.940 stops being about whatever you were doing in the first place and you shouldn't be taken seriously.
00:41:36.260 You're exactly right. I'm not surprised that you're a successful business owner with that
00:41:40.280 mentality. Like that's the kind of mentality that you need to be successful in anything.
00:41:43.960 I think you're exactly right. Even aside from the issue of which sex is being critical,
00:41:50.140 you're hitting on something important, which is that if you have grand aspirations, if you have real
00:41:55.180 goals in life, if you intend to climb the ladder to some position that is much loftier than the one
00:42:01.700 you're currently standing on, then yes, people are going to doubt you. And the truth is that most
00:42:09.520 people, well, most people aren't thinking about you one way or another, right? So you got these people
00:42:14.260 that everyone doubted me. No one believed in me. Well, yeah, actually most people like didn't care
00:42:18.960 one way or another. They just weren't thinking about you. Okay. The whole world isn't sitting around
00:42:24.120 doubting you because they just don't, they have their own lives they're living. They're not thinking
00:42:29.020 about you one way or another. But most of the people who do give it some thought will probably
00:42:38.420 be skeptical, right? If you've got big goals, like if you've got big things you want to achieve in
00:42:43.160 life, which is good, you should have those goals and aspirations. But if you do and you share them
00:42:49.300 with someone, most people that hear them are going to be like, yeah, I don't know if you could do that.
00:42:55.620 And they should be skeptical. It's rational in many cases. If you aspire to become extremely
00:43:00.940 successful in whatever field or area of life, well, most people are not extremely successful in
00:43:07.580 that field or area. So there's nothing irrational or especially mean about people doubting your ability
00:43:12.940 to get there. It doesn't mean they hate you or don't respect you. It's like, you know, it's like
00:43:16.860 if you take any goal, it's like if somebody was, you know, comes along and you have someone who's
00:43:23.980 kind of slow and out of shape and they come along and they say that their goal, their goal
00:43:27.220 after some training is that they want to run a mile under five minutes. Well, you would probably
00:43:34.660 doubt that they could do it. And if they told you about it and they wanted your opinion, you'd probably
00:43:39.420 say, well, it's a good goal to have. I, you know, I'm not sure you could actually do it.
00:43:45.980 Um, and because you probably can't, but maybe you do in which case great, but, uh, what are they
00:43:56.220 supposed to say? Like, what do you want people to say to you? You want people to just say, oh yeah,
00:44:00.420 I absolutely know you can achieve this very improbable thing. So, and I would say the same
00:44:08.340 thing for myself. I mean, I, I, you know, uh, there were a lot of people years ago who doubted
00:44:15.660 me. Uh, but also, especially when I was younger, there was a lot of reason to, and I was, I was
00:44:22.240 kind of a screw up. So it wasn't irrational. And I think you're right that the thing that drives you
00:44:28.320 to succeed, uh, cannot be this kind of petty, childish desire to prove the doubters wrong or
00:44:36.780 whatever. It has to be a desire to achieve the thing itself because of the value that you see
00:44:42.880 in achieving it. Okay. It, it, you have to be driven to reach the mountaintop because you want
00:44:49.700 to conquer the mountain for its own sake. If your whole goal is just to give a middle finger to the
00:44:53.480 haters, then you'll probably never make it because that's not enough to get you through the very
00:44:59.620 profound struggles that you're going to face. And even if you do achieve it, well, you'll have turned
00:45:04.840 this great achievement into something sort of petty and small because it was only ever about that for
00:45:10.160 you. So, uh, yes, very good point. I like when there's good points made in the comments, which,
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00:46:13.400 Today we cancel MSNBC host Chris Hayes. Now I believe this is Chris Hayes's first appearance
00:46:18.520 in daily cancellation since 2020, which means it's been five years, which means I've been doing this
00:46:23.340 segment for five years. I'm not sure if I should be proud of that or depressed by it. Maybe some
00:46:30.880 strange combination of the two, but in any case, Hayes is making his daily cancellation comeback
00:46:34.760 thanks to his interview this past weekend on Bill Maher's show. The conversation turned to the subject
00:46:39.480 of gender transitions for minors. I'm always interested to hear how prominent liberals defend
00:46:44.360 their position on this issue since their position is so profoundly indefensible. And I'm always then
00:46:49.460 disappointed to discover that their way of defending it is to not defend it. Instead, they grasp for the
00:46:56.140 most pathetic cop-outs they can grab hold of. And that was Chris's strategy. But I also think at the
00:47:02.960 same time, there is a message of what I would call like common sense, patriotic pluralism. That is a
00:47:10.820 majority message, which is like if some father and mother have healthcare for their kid lined up who's
00:47:16.760 trans, just stay the f*** out of their business. Like, and let them make that decision.
00:47:24.260 That's their decision to make. And you don't have to make that for your family. I'm not going to tell
00:47:27.980 you what to do with your family. Well, I mean, but the argument is whether the child should make the
00:47:31.160 decision. But the child is never making the decision. The parents are always making the decision.
00:47:35.100 Parents consent to medical care. Well, here in California, you're allowed to hide it from the
00:47:40.200 parents if the kid is. Yes. Thank you, one person. Somebody knows that is the case. I think in the
00:47:47.000 vast majority, and we've been hearing from parents right now whose kids' medical care has been
00:47:51.460 interrupted. I think there's a way to talk about. Well, of course, they would say it's not medical
00:47:56.040 care. They would say it's disfiguring a child. I think they should mind their own business. I really
00:48:02.240 do. I think they should mind their own business. And I think that's true about a lot of things. I think
00:48:05.120 there is this sense in which there was this sort of backlash politics, some of which I understood,
00:48:10.660 some of which people I know felt that way. I don't think what people wanted was for the women CIA
00:48:16.280 agents at the CIA to be told that they can't get together once a month to, like, celebrate former
00:48:21.440 women spies. I just don't. I think, like, fundamental parts of what we call in this country the traditions
00:48:28.140 of pluralism, which is what this country is. And pluralism is another word for diversity. If we're not
00:48:32.180 going to use that one, let's use pluralism. That fundamentally, there's a majority that understands
00:48:36.820 that, like, we all come from different places. Yeah. And part of what makes this country work
00:48:40.660 is we acknowledge and we negotiate those differences. And that's a thing that I think
00:48:45.660 Democrats can win back a majority message. Well, actually, Chris, most Americans don't want
00:48:51.800 female CIA agents getting together once a month to celebrate women spies. Why do you need to do that
00:48:58.540 once a month? Like, once a month, really? What exactly does a monthly female spy celebration
00:49:06.080 consist of? What's the point of it? And more importantly, why should taxpayers fund that
00:49:12.680 activity? If female CIA agents want to gather on their own time in their own homes to shout
00:49:17.480 girl power or whatever, then they have every right to do it. But that is, in fact, precisely
00:49:22.460 the kind of pointless PC nonsense that Americans just voted against. And if you still don't understand
00:49:28.780 that, it just means that your party is going to continue to make all the mistakes that put you in
00:49:32.860 this position to begin with, which frankly is fine with me. But Americans even more so voted against
00:49:38.100 the castration, sterilization, and mutilation of minors. And Chris has a chance to present the
00:49:42.920 affirmative case for giving children the same drug they use to castrate sex offenders. He has the floor
00:49:48.060 on a show with a large audience of people who, many of whom disagree with that kind of so-called
00:49:53.520 medical treatment. If there's a good argument in favor of it, well, now would be an ideal time to
00:50:00.820 present it. But there is no good argument in favor of it, or even a bad argument. There is no argument at
00:50:06.740 all. Instead, Chris Hayes, the avowed far-left liberal, suddenly turns libertarian. He says, if parents want
00:50:14.360 to castrate their kids, it's none of our business. We should just butt out. In fact, he abandons all
00:50:19.860 at once any pretense that the quote-unquote trans child is leading his own transition. He says it's
00:50:26.800 all about the parents. The parents choose. Well, there are two major problems with that, Chris. First
00:50:31.160 of all, the whole idea here, right, the alleged reason that we have child gender transition in the
00:50:37.000 first place, is that supposedly the child has identified some deep inner truth that tells him
00:50:44.180 that he is really a girl, or vice versa. The entire pro-trans argument rests necessarily on the idea
00:50:51.000 that a person's transness is, while not visible to the outside world, somehow uniquely knowable to the
00:50:58.520 trans person. When a male says that he's really a female, nobody can confirm or disconfirm the claim.
00:51:05.040 It is an inner truth that only he can know. Now, this is, of course, nonsense. It is absolute
00:51:11.360 incomprehensible hokum, but this is the pro-trans logic, as illogical as it is, which means that
00:51:17.860 according to that logic, the child is the one who chooses to undergo the transition. Both the parent
00:51:24.720 and the medical provider are deferring to the child's own testimony about his inner opposite-sex
00:51:30.920 identity. Again, according to the argument that Chris's side makes, only the child can actually
00:51:37.540 know if he's trans, which means that the ultimate authority when it comes to his medical transition
00:51:42.860 is not the parents or even the doctor. It is the child. They are giving the child the drugs to make
00:51:49.640 him into the opposite sex, which of course is impossible, purely because the child said he is
00:51:55.280 the opposite sex. That is the one single fundamental thing that the whole case rests on.
00:52:04.980 But Chris knows that it's insane to give an 11-year-old that kind of power and control over
00:52:09.960 his own medical care. He knows he can't defend the idea that children are capable of consenting to
00:52:14.720 life-altering medical procedures. So he hides behind the let parents make the decision dodge. And the thing
00:52:20.520 is, of course, that parents are the ones making the decision, right? All that stuff about a child
00:52:26.360 recognizing his inner truth or whatever is total gibberish. My only point is that this gibberish is
00:52:32.320 what the whole pro-trans side of the argument rests on. So if Chris is admitting that it's actually the
00:52:37.620 parents guiding the ship, then he's admitting that transgenderism is in fact something being imposed
00:52:43.500 on the child from the outside, which automatically delegitimizes the whole enterprise. So there's
00:52:51.020 really nothing else to say. If Chris Hayes is admitting, well, yeah, well, it's the parent really
00:52:59.500 doing this. Well, then what are we talking about? What are we even talking about at that? Of course,
00:53:04.140 then it's wrong. Obviously. But so, I mean, Chris Hayes has basically just abandoned his whole argument.
00:53:12.560 So there's no reason to continue, but I'll continue anyway. Bill Maher points out correctly that the
00:53:18.700 other side, Team Sanity, would say correctly that this medical care is not really medical care,
00:53:25.560 but it is in fact disfiguring a child. And Chris's only response to that is, and I quote,
00:53:32.500 I think they should mind their own business. What he's saying quite explicitly is that even if the
00:53:38.200 parents are disfiguring their child, we should simply butt out and let it happen. It's none of
00:53:44.740 our business. Now, he says this now, but I guarantee he would be singing a very different
00:53:51.940 tune if, let's say, some conservative parent in some sort of radical religious sect decided that
00:53:59.640 they didn't want to give their child a life-saving blood transfusion because it's against God's wishes
00:54:05.340 or whatever. Now, that would be a medical decision that the parents are making. By Chris's logic,
00:54:11.960 we should butt out and let the kid die unnecessarily, all in the name of respecting the privacy of the
00:54:19.000 parents. But I feel fairly certain that Chris would not stick to his mind-your-own-business
00:54:24.820 principles in that case. And that's because his mind-your-own-business principles apply
00:54:28.740 pretty much exclusively to this one issue. In fact, we could come up with a million examples of
00:54:35.420 things that parents might do to their children that even though it is a private decision made by
00:54:40.520 the family in their own home, Chris Hayes would still object to and would want the government to
00:54:44.780 step in and put a stop to it. Indeed, if you apply this mind-your-own-business philosophy consistently,
00:54:50.460 then that would mean we should abolish all laws against all forms of child abuse.
00:54:57.680 Because no matter what a parent is doing to a child, no matter what sort of harm they're inflicting,
00:55:02.140 mind your own business. It doesn't concern you. It doesn't affect you. That's the argument Chris
00:55:07.060 Hayes is making. Respect their privacy. Focus on your own issues. And yet, I will give Chris Hayes the
00:55:13.420 benefit of the doubt and assume that he is not that monstrously psychotic. He's only pretending to be
00:55:19.740 for the sake of being a good little LGBT ally. I bet that in almost every case, Chris Hayes would
00:55:26.600 agree that when a child is being directly and intentionally harmed, the last thing we should do
00:55:32.700 is mind our own business. That is an approach that he only adopts for this issue, well, and abortion.
00:55:40.660 So those are the two massive exceptions. If a child is being castrated in middle school
00:55:44.840 or dismembered in the womb, mind your own business. But if he's being abused in any other way at any
00:55:51.220 other point, send in the cavalry and throw those parents in prison. That's Chris's position. And it
00:55:58.200 is, again, totally indefensible. Which is why even while defending it, he doesn't really defend it.
00:56:04.780 He knows better. They all do. And, you know, that is what makes this so especially disgusting.
00:56:14.460 And that is why he is today canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching.
00:56:19.640 Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.
00:56:21.820 We'll catch you tomorrow.
00:56:33.700 Bye-bye.
00:56:35.140 Bye-bye.
00:56:37.560 Bye-bye.
00:56:45.200 Bye.