The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1536 - WATCH： Hilariously Unhinged LGBT Activists Turn City Council Meeting Into Circus

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, trans activists descended on a city council meeting in Massachusetts.

00:00:04.100 When I show you the footage from this thing, you'll have a hard time believing that it isn't

00:00:07.360 satire, but it's real. Also, a mentorship program for LGBT youth, quote unquote, is set to receive

00:00:12.940 over a million dollars in tax funding. But what does this mentorship consist of? We'll find out.

00:00:18.020 A reparations bill has been reintroduced. Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley says reparations

00:00:21.520 are owed because slaves built our country. Is that actually true? And what exactly is a work

00:00:26.140 husband or work wife? And why are they now selling Valentine's Day cards for them? And Pope 1.00

00:00:30.660 Francis issued a letter condemning Trump's immigration policies as a Catholic. I don't

00:00:34.500 especially enjoy calling out the Pope, but if I need to, I will. And today I need to talk about all

00:00:38.880 that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.

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00:02:25.080 question some older historical claims that are treated as gospel. And that's a rational response.

00:02:31.100 After all, if the experts in the 21st century are willing to lie to us about pandemics and the Iraq

00:02:35.740 War and many other things, then you can only imagine how many lies were being told in previous

00:02:40.900 centuries before people had access to social media and the internet. Seeing what happened to Donald Trump,

00:02:46.140 you might wonder whether Richard Nixon was really a crook, for example, or you might question whether

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00:03:01.100 narrative that we can add to this list. After reviewing recent events, I've come to the inescapable

00:03:07.100 conclusion that we really need to take a closer look at the Salem witch trials and what they were

00:03:12.040 actually all about. If you remember from history class, we were told that the Salem witch trials

00:03:16.560 were a grave historic injustice because dozens of people in Salem were falsely accused of being

00:03:20.820 insane witches. And as we all know, insane witches are not a thing, and prosecutors never should have

00:03:26.380 suggested such a thing. You can't just go around accusing people of going completely crazy because

00:03:31.840 they're under demonic influence. That would be ridiculous. And if witches and demons did exist, 0.99

00:03:36.200 they certainly wouldn't exist in a place like colonial Massachusetts, where everybody's well-educated and

00:03:40.780 well-spoken. So whatever trials took place were completely null and void. They were a travesty

00:03:45.900 of justice. Anyway, that's how we were taught to think about this whole shameful episode in

00:03:51.180 United States history. And it's an appealing line of reasoning. At least it's appealing right up until

00:03:55.900 the moment that you see footage from this week's city council meeting in Worcester, Massachusetts,

00:04:02.420 just a short drive from Salem. I don't want to overstate things here. I'm mostly going to let the

00:04:07.840 footage speak for itself. And to be clear, I'm not endorsing any of the punishments that were

00:04:14.040 reportedly handed out during the Salem witch trials or anything like that. I couldn't endorse

00:04:19.960 such a thing, especially I couldn't do that on YouTube. All I'm saying is that once you see this

00:04:25.280 footage, you have to wonder what exactly they're putting in the water up in that neck of the woods.

00:04:30.160 It's enough to make you rethink a lot of prior assumptions that you may have had.

00:04:33.920 Now, this footage comes from a city council meeting that lasted several hours. And it concerned a

00:04:39.880 proposed resolution to declare that Worcester, Massachusetts is a sanctuary city for transgender

00:04:44.740 and gender fluid individuals. It's never really explained what exactly that means or why it's

00:04:51.120 necessary. These people are very worried that the Trump administration is going to deport transgender

00:04:56.420 and gender fluid people, apparently, even though nobody has suggested doing that. In fact,

00:05:01.660 there have been no laws proposed anywhere by anyone that would have any impact on the vast

00:05:07.620 majority of the people that you will see in this council meeting. Yet they held a public hearing

00:05:12.040 to discuss their concerns anyway. And one by one, they demonstrated that we are severely, and I mean

00:05:17.180 really severely, underestimating the number of completely unhinged people who live in the state

00:05:21.820 of Massachusetts. Whatever the estimate was, it's far too low. So here's just a small part

00:05:27.700 of what took place.

00:05:31.700 I need the city to protect me because the federal government won't. And if you think you're afraid of

00:05:38.020 Trump, you should see how afraid of Trump I am.

00:05:41.380 Can you wrap up, please?

00:05:42.500 Yes, I can. If you say that you're afraid of Trump, and that's why you don't want the city to be a safe space

00:05:51.220 for trans people, you better prepare for trans people to make this a very unsafe space. 1.00

00:05:57.220 I'm shaking right now. I don't want to be here.

00:06:01.220 Can you wrap up, please?

00:06:03.220 I'm sorry. Am I taking too long pleading for my life?

00:06:06.220 You remembered how many children I have and the two of them are trans.

00:06:11.220 I speak as both the B and the T in the LGBT. 0.99

00:06:16.220 I'm multiply disabled. I have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome, which is a connective tissue disorder

00:06:22.220 that causes me immense physical pain. I'm on the autism spectrum and I have narcolepsy

00:06:30.220 and I couldn't drive myself here. So I had to hide from my driver that I was in drag,

00:06:36.220 which is not an easy thing to do in drag.

00:06:38.220 I do not want to be here. It's my day off. I do not want to be in your DMs.

00:06:44.220 I have narcolepsy. I have autism. I'm disabled. I stubbed my toe this morning.

00:06:56.220 I have a strange rash on my foot. I have athlete's foot.

00:07:03.220 Just got to list. This is how it works at a council meeting when there are a bunch of leftists showing up.

00:07:08.220 You just begin, you know, they get three minutes to speak and the first two and a half minutes are consumed by them listing all of their, you know, credentials.

00:07:17.220 And their credentials are just all the things that they're, you know, all the different ways that they're victims and all the things they're whining about.

00:07:23.220 And we say this a lot, but it really does feel like a parody when you watch the video.

00:07:27.220 You know, it's like these people can't be real, yet they are.

00:07:32.220 I don't want to be here, complains the trans activist.

00:07:34.220 Well, okay, then leave.

00:07:36.220 Nobody's forcing you to be there.

00:07:38.220 That's how sane people handle situations they don't want to be involved with.

00:07:41.220 But of course, from the perspective of the trans activists, they have no agency whatsoever.

00:07:45.220 Everything that happens to them is the result of some nefarious outside force.

00:07:48.220 They are perpetually oppressed, even when they're making voluntary decisions to appear at council meetings.

00:07:53.220 It is one of the many reasons that these people are deeply and profoundly unhappy.

00:07:56.220 And as you may have just noticed, that rage often leads to violent thoughts.

00:08:01.220 Now, if you're listening to the audio podcast, I'll point out that behind all these speakers, there's a sign that reads,

00:08:07.220 I see you, silence equals death.

00:08:10.220 And that's obviously an explicit threat that's being made to the members of the Worcester City Council.

00:08:14.220 But just in case they didn't get the message, the first speaker declares that the city council had better vote the right way,

00:08:20.220 or else, quote, you better prepare for trans people to make this a very unsafe space. 0.99

00:08:25.220 And just to reiterate, this is what the speaker looked like.

00:08:29.220 This is the look.

00:08:32.220 I mean, she looks like a Scooby-Doo villain and not very threatening, but still the sort of person who, if you did see her in public,

00:08:41.220 your first move is to cross the street and keep some distance.

00:08:45.220 I mean, anyone who chooses to dress like a demonically possessed department store mannequin is clearly not the sort of person that you want to consort with.

00:08:53.220 And again, just to be clear, this city council meeting is about a meaningless resolution to declare Worcester a sanctuary city for transgenderism.

00:09:00.220 This is a resolution that does not affect the law in any way.

00:09:03.220 It doesn't give any new protections to anyone.

00:09:06.220 It doesn't change day to day life at all for anyone.

00:09:09.220 But trans activists were threatening the city council over it.

00:09:13.220 And as the meeting continued, their behavior became even more irate and even more unhinged.

00:09:19.220 Watch.

00:09:20.220 Can you look at me and tell me how many of my friends need to die before you do anything?

00:09:25.220 Please wrap up.

00:09:26.220 Look at me!

00:09:27.220 Okay, we're all done here. 0.99

00:09:29.220 Pathetic! 0.99

00:09:32.220 I speak as someone who is always misgendered like all the time. 0.99

00:09:39.220 People refer to me as sir when I prefer to be referred to as ma'am.

00:09:45.220 I speak as someone who is afraid to use public toilets.

00:09:50.220 I speak as someone who is a member of this community and is a queer person.

00:09:57.220 The quote there was, I speak as someone who is afraid to use public toilets.

00:10:04.220 And that may be the first time in American history that that exact line has been uttered at a city council meeting or in any official meeting of any kind.

00:10:12.220 And he delivered that line with no sense of irony or hesitation or shame or anything.

00:10:17.220 Like it's part of his identity or some kind of advanced qualification.

00:10:21.220 Somebody else might say I speak as a doctor or I speak as an experienced plumber, but not this guy.

00:10:27.220 He speaks as someone who is afraid to use public toilets.

00:10:30.220 So quiet down and listen to what he's about to say.

00:10:33.220 Now, frankly, it's a line worth thinking about because it does suggest that at least in this guy's case, there's a chance his problem can be solved pretty easily.

00:10:41.220 Obviously, everyone's going to keep calling him sir because he's a male.

00:10:45.220 Well, that particular issue is a nonstarter.

00:10:47.220 But the toilet problem, you know, I mean, I don't want to I don't want to think too much.

00:10:51.220 It's like could just be a dietary thing.

00:10:53.220 You know, many, many adult males have been afraid to use public toilets at one time or another.

00:10:58.220 Maybe the root of the problem is that the public toilets in Worcester don't flush properly or something.

00:11:03.220 Now, this is an issue that maybe demands more investigation.

00:11:07.220 But at the same time, this footage is also proof that the federal government should stop funding the city of Worcester, Massachusetts immediately.

00:11:14.220 If anybody from Doge is listening, this is a pretty obvious place to make some more cuts.

00:11:18.220 The second congressional district in Massachusetts, which includes the city of Worcester, received more than $20 million from the federal government in the last fiscal year alone.

00:11:27.220 Several million of your taxpayer dollars went to alleged improvements on something called Mill Street in Worcester,

00:11:32.220 including the establishment of even more bike lanes that interrupt the flow of traffic.

00:11:37.220 None of this funding should continue.

00:11:39.220 Obviously, there was no reason for it in the first place.

00:11:41.220 And there's certainly no reason for it now.

00:11:43.220 Now that we know Worcester is essentially an open air asylum.

00:11:46.220 There was one more moment from this city council meeting that I want to highlight.

00:11:51.220 And this is genuinely one of the most disturbing pieces of footage that you will see.

00:11:57.220 Trans activists handed a script to a seven year old child who was wearing a land back shirt with an upside down American flag on it.

00:12:06.220 And we're going to blur his face, obviously.

00:12:08.220 But here's the moment.

00:12:11.220 Noticing people here are trying to control the rights of others.

00:12:16.220 And that's not right.

00:12:17.220 We should make Worcester a sanctuary city for trans people.

00:12:21.220 Everybody deserves to feel safe and everybody needs to feel safe.

00:12:25.220 I've lived here for four years and there hasn't really been any changes in how people feel safe in the city.

00:12:32.220 My birthday is this Saturday and all I want is peace and for you to vote yes.

00:12:37.220 Please don't let me down for my birthday.

00:12:39.220 There's a lot of queer people that I love.

00:12:41.220 And to Candy Carlson, you should know to never call someone.

00:12:45.220 It's I'm seven and I know better.

00:12:48.220 The kids are watching and we're ready to vote you out.

00:12:51.220 The applause at the end is almost as disturbing as everything that came before it.

00:12:58.220 This is a child who's clearly being manipulated in about a million different ways.

00:13:03.220 And the trans activists in Worcester loved it.

00:13:06.220 They have no problem poisoning the mind of a young child exploiting children, as we know. 0.99

00:13:11.220 They're happy to convince a child that he needs to be castrated. 0.95

00:13:14.220 I mean, this is this is this is what they've been doing now for years. 0.86

00:13:19.220 So, of course, they're also going to be happy to hand a child a script in order to push some low effort emotional blackmail.

00:13:25.220 And the script doesn't even make sense, by the way.

00:13:27.220 I mean, he says at the end, the kids are watching and we're going to vote you out.

00:13:30.220 But of course, children can't vote even in Massachusetts.

00:13:34.220 So whoever wrote this script and it was not the child, but whoever wrote it kind of slipped up a bit there.

00:13:40.220 As far as I could tell, the point of this speech was to attack a member of the city council who supposedly referred to a self-described non-binary member of the Worcester City Council as an it instead of a they.

00:13:51.220 And that led to a whole crisis in Massachusetts just a few weeks ago in which this non-binary, quote unquote, city councilman decided to go on a paid leave of absence.

00:14:00.220 Watch this morning, the first openly non-binary lawmaker in Massachusetts history taking a leave of absence from their post.

00:14:08.220 We're talking about Worcester City Councilor at large through when says it's to focus on their mental health, saying they faced a discriminatory and toxic culture on the council.

00:14:17.220 Mr. Chairman, under your leadership, I have felt unsafe around this council body.

00:14:23.220 I have faced transphobia with being misgendered and recently learned that I have been dehumanized to a point where I'm being referred to as it by my colleagues on this council.

00:14:34.220 Councilor Wynn made those comments at a city council meeting Tuesday night.

00:14:39.220 Wynn also said they attend the council meetings via Zoom because they feel unsafe at City Hall.

00:14:44.220 I really, really wished I felt safe enough to show up on the council floor.

00:14:51.220 By the way, it is in fact the grammatically correct gender neutral pronoun.

00:15:02.220 They is not because they refers to multiple people.

00:15:07.220 It is actually the correct, the grammatically correct gender neutral pronoun.

00:15:12.220 If it sounds dehumanizing, it's because it is.

00:15:17.220 It is, it's unhuman.

00:15:19.220 And that's because in the human species, you're either male or female.

00:15:24.220 There is no such thing as non-binary in the human species.

00:15:27.220 And so if you identify as non-binary, you have dehumanized yourself.

00:15:32.220 You are claiming to be something other than human.

00:15:36.220 Because if you're human, you can only be male or female.

00:15:39.220 But of course, no one would explain that to this person who I think is a male.

00:15:47.220 And but you see, it's just too dangerous in the Worcester City Council.

00:15:52.220 So I'm afraid that in addition to not showing up to work and doing everything remotely, he's saying, I'm just going to, I'm not going to do anything at all.

00:16:00.220 I'm not going to work and the taxpayers are going to continue to pay me.

00:16:03.220 An indefinite paid vacation is the only thing that can heal my, my deep wounds.

00:16:09.220 And you really can't blame this person. 0.99

00:16:12.220 Honestly, if people in Worcester are so dumb that they fall for this, they deserve to have their money stolen. 0.97

00:16:16.220 They deserve for their city to turn into a circus act, which is what's happened while the representatives skip work because of, quote unquote, misgendering. 0.99

00:16:23.220 At the very least, it's entertainment for the rest of the country.

00:16:26.220 As soon as we cut their funding, then we could just sit back and truly enjoy it.

00:16:31.220 Or we wouldn't be able to enjoy it if not for the fact that there are kids getting mixed up in the middle of all this nonsense.

00:16:36.220 And for Democrats, you know, it will not be so enjoyable.

00:16:41.220 And that's because these activists are self caricatures who have been steering the ship for the Democrat Party for many, many years.

00:16:48.220 Based on what just happened at the DNC that we talked about a few days ago, we know that they're still steering the ship.

00:16:54.220 And in the end, that is a pathway to complete and total disaster for the simple reason that these people are incapable of leading anything.

00:17:02.220 They can't lead a political movement, much less a country, because they're all pathological narcissists who can't see even two inches beyond their own egos. 0.95

00:17:10.220 As it stands, Worcester, Massachusetts seems determined to turn itself into a haven for these self-absorbed crackpots. 0.95

00:17:18.220 And so does the Democrat Party.

00:17:19.220 And the end result will be that the vast majority of Americans, sane people, are going to stay far away from both Worcester, Massachusetts and the Democrat Party.

00:17:28.220 They think they're creating a sanctuary, but they've actually created something else entirely.

00:17:32.220 They've created a monument to the confusion and incoherence of gender ideology. 0.99

00:17:37.220 And like Worcester, Massachusetts, that ideology is now collapsing in dramatic and sometimes hilarious fashion right before our eyes.

00:17:47.220 Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:18:49.220 Daily Wire reports, the United States government is set to spend over $1.5 million in taxpayer money bankrolling a far-left group's LGBT mentorship program for children as young as 12 years old in Los Angeles and on campus activism for K-12 students.

00:19:04.220 The LifeWorks Mentorship Program is one of the initiatives from the Los Angeles LGBT Center that's benefiting from the financial backing of the federal government with the Department of Health and Human Services agreeing to put up nearly a million dollars in support of it.

00:19:18.220 The LifeWorks 101 mentoring program gives LGBTQ plus youth ages 24 and under the opportunity to be matched with an adult in the community, according to a description from the Los Angeles LGBT Center.

00:19:31.220 And if you go to this website, you'll find a video all about this mentorship program, and we'll play a little bit of that.

00:19:40.220 Here it is.

00:19:41.220 We need mentors like you.

00:19:46.220 Like you.

00:19:47.220 Like you.

00:19:48.220 Like you.

00:19:49.220 Mentors like you.

00:19:50.220 Like you.

00:19:51.220 We really need mentors like you.

00:19:53.220 I'm a youth with a lot going on.

00:19:56.220 I really needed direction in my life.

00:19:59.220 Because I didn't have any gay friends, I didn't have any connection with the gay community whatsoever.

00:20:03.220 The Mentor Match Program was what I needed.

00:20:06.220 There's kind of an orphaned quality to LGBTQ youth because you very rarely have someone to model after. 0.94

00:20:15.220 There's just such high rates of family not accepting queer youth.

00:20:20.220 A lot of us have gone through a period of self-parenting.

00:20:27.220 All of us can remember back to when we were young and we didn't have those role models in our lives.

00:20:33.220 There's a mental health aspect to it that really helped me.

00:20:37.220 And being comfortable in who I am.

00:20:39.220 It gave me a lasting relationship that I find really valuable.

00:20:43.220 When there's days I question my identity, Ross reminds me that it does get better, you know, and we do better.

00:20:49.220 And she's an example of it.

00:20:53.220 It's amazing.

00:20:54.220 It's fun.

00:20:55.220 Me, like, being a new friend and everything is cool.

00:20:59.220 The mentors that youth need these days are people that are capable of being honest with themselves.

00:21:05.220 Yes, honest with themselves, which is exactly what this guy isn't.

00:21:10.220 He also isn't someone who any sane person would want mentoring a child.

00:21:16.220 Although, to be fair, not all of the mentees are children.

00:21:20.220 You know, this is a mentorship for LGBT kids that goes up to the age of 24.

00:21:26.220 So they're also matching full grown gay men with other gay men in the name of mentorship. 0.51

00:21:33.220 And we know what mentorship likely means in that context.

00:21:37.220 Quite a euphemism.

00:21:38.220 Which is why, of course, the much greater outrage is that they are also involving actual children in this.

00:21:43.220 Children as young as 12 years old.

00:21:45.220 Matching them up with adult quote-unquote mentors.

00:21:52.220 So this is systemic, systematic, rather, tax-funded grooming, obviously.

00:22:02.220 And you can hear it in the video.

00:22:03.220 I mean, they admit it.

00:22:05.220 You hear that girl say that, well, someday she questions her identity, but she has her trans mentor to get her through those moments.

00:22:13.220 And what does that mean?

00:22:14.220 It means that she has moments where she begins to see that the false identity she's constructed for herself is false.

00:22:22.220 She's questioning her kind of unreal fantasy land self-identity.

00:22:28.220 But her trans quote-unquote mentor pulls her back down.

00:22:33.220 Pulls her back into it.

00:22:35.220 Pulls her back into confusion.

00:22:36.220 Makes sure that she never comes to understand and accept her biological identity.

00:22:43.220 And that's grooming.

00:22:47.220 That's indoctrination.

00:22:49.220 These words are synonymous.

00:22:51.220 And, of course, the sad truth is that these kids really do actually need real mentorship.

00:22:58.220 They desperately need actual mentorship.

00:23:01.220 Instead, they get this.

00:23:02.220 They get taken advantage of.

00:23:04.220 And all of the confusion and emotional and psychological chaos that led them to this point is only made worse, and intentionally so.

00:23:13.220 And it's all happening on the taxpayer dime.

00:23:16.220 So, obviously, the Trump administration needs to put an end to this, and every program like it across the country.

00:23:21.220 This is not the only one, that's for sure.

00:23:23.220 But you kind of get an appreciation for just the Herculean task that Trump and Doge and Elon Musk are undertaking.

00:23:33.220 When you've got, it's just, there's, I mean, literally like a million examples of this kind of thing, right?

00:23:39.220 I mean, thousands, at least thousands of examples of this kind of thing.

00:23:42.220 And all you can do is go line by line and root out all of it.

00:23:48.220 And hopefully this is next on the list.

00:23:51.220 NBC News has this report.

00:23:52.220 Representative Ayanna Pressley will reintroduce HR 40, federal legislation to study reparations for slavery.

00:23:59.220 Did this on Wednesday as the Trump administration leads a wide scale rollback of diversity, equity and inclusion efforts in the federal government.

00:24:07.220 The bill, which had 130 co-sponsors in the last session, is not likely to advance under the Republican-controlled Congress.

00:24:13.220 And the White House has previously been opposed to any reparations effort.

00:24:16.220 So this is a symbolic gesture.

00:24:20.220 It's obviously not going to go anywhere.

00:24:22.220 And the bill's not going to pass.

00:24:25.220 And even if somehow, which it wouldn't, it did pass, Trump would not sign it.

00:24:31.220 So it's a symbolic effort.

00:24:33.220 But it kind of shows you where the Democrat Party is right now, where their heads are.

00:24:39.220 And on that note, there was a bunch of Democrats that got together to talk about this and why we need reparations.

00:24:53.220 Here is Ayanna Pressley, for example, trying to explain.

00:24:57.220 We can legislate justice.

00:25:00.220 We can legislate healing.

00:25:02.220 And we are certainly long overdue.

00:25:05.220 And for those that would say we need to just get over it, that's interesting.

00:25:12.220 When, as a nation, you are benefiting right now from an economy that was built on the brutalized backs and the indignities and the horrors of chattel slavery and our African ancestors.

00:25:30.220 Okay, a few things.

00:25:33.220 First of all, no, you cannot legislate healing.

00:25:37.220 She says, we can legislate healing.

00:25:39.220 No, there is no legislation that can heal anything.

00:25:43.220 Nobody's ever been healed by legislation.

00:25:46.220 I wish it worked that way, but it doesn't.

00:25:48.220 I wish all physical and emotional wounds could be healed.

00:25:52.220 I wish you could pass the Physical and Emotional Wound Healing Act of 2025 and everybody would just feel better.

00:25:59.220 But it doesn't work that way.

00:26:01.220 And especially in this case, because there is nothing to heal.

00:26:05.220 Yes, Ayanna Pressley, you should just get over it.

00:26:10.220 Yeah, you need to get over slavery.

00:26:12.220 You do.

00:26:13.220 You definitely do.

00:26:14.220 Get the hell over it.

00:26:16.220 You need to get over it.

00:26:17.220 Yeah.

00:26:18.220 Your whole life revolves around pity and emotional blackmail and whining incessantly about the past.

00:26:26.220 That's your whole life. 1.00

00:26:28.220 And it's pathetic. 1.00

00:26:29.220 And it's grotesque. 0.99

00:26:31.220 And you need to just get over it.

00:26:33.220 Yeah.

00:26:34.220 You see, because if you had yourself suffered some outrage, some indignity, some terrible experience years ago, and all you did was just talk about it and whine about it.

00:26:48.220 Then I would tell you that at a certain point in your life, you do need to get over even that and get back to living your life.

00:26:57.220 No matter what happens to you, at a certain point, you have to get over it at least enough so that you can live a life and focus on other things.

00:27:09.220 And that's what I would say if you personally had suffered some sort of terrible event.

00:27:18.220 But if the terrible thing happened 150 years ago to people who are all dead now, to people who are all not you, then yes, even more so, you need to get over it.

00:27:31.220 Because it's not even your thing to get over.

00:27:34.220 It didn't happen to you, Ayanna.

00:27:37.220 You are a United States Congresswoman. 0.93

00:27:40.220 You're doing fine.

00:27:42.220 You have achieved nothing in your position.

00:27:45.220 You've done absolutely nothing in your position. 0.98

00:27:47.220 Not a single damn thing. 0.99

00:27:49.220 You don't deserve to be where you are. 0.99

00:27:51.220 You've done nothing for this country or even for your own constituents.

00:27:56.220 And yet you still have this very powerful position that you don't deserve.

00:28:00.220 So you're doing great.

00:28:01.220 You're doing better than most people.

00:28:03.220 Slavery did not happen to you.

00:28:06.220 Stop trying to cash in on the suffering of other people.

00:28:10.220 Get your own suffering. 1.00

00:28:12.220 Damn it. 1.00

00:28:15.220 You thief. 1.00

00:28:16.220 You're a thief. 1.00

00:28:18.220 You are a thief. 1.00

00:28:19.220 You are stealing other people's suffering and pretending it's your own. 1.00

00:28:23.220 Get your own.

00:28:25.220 And I want to say one other thing too, which is that, you know, Ayanna claims that this country, this economy was built on the backs of slave labor. 0.85

00:28:37.220 That's what she just said.

00:28:39.220 And this is the second time somebody has made that claim this week prominently.

00:28:44.220 During the Super Bowl.

00:28:45.220 During the Super Bowl.

00:28:46.220 Some race hustler.

00:28:47.220 I forget the woman's name.

00:28:49.220 I think, in fact, there were multiple people who put out this thing during the Super Bowl where they claiming that.

00:28:55.220 And I don't know why the Super Bowl has brought this idea out, but claiming that black people built America, meaning what they're saying, again, is the same thing Ayanna Pressley did said, which is that the country was built.

00:29:09.220 The economy was built on the backs of black slaves. 1.00

00:29:14.220 And again, this is a claim that we hear a lot.

00:29:17.220 And the notion that the argument for reparations rests really on that claim.

00:29:25.220 Well, it's not true.

00:29:28.220 It's just not true.

00:29:30.220 I'm sorry, but it's not true.

00:29:33.220 But go back and look at the numbers.

00:29:35.220 This stuff is quantifiable.

00:29:37.220 Cotton exports, for example, accounted for like five or six percent of our GDP before the Civil War.

00:29:46.220 Okay, like five or six percent.

00:29:48.220 How much of our total economy depended on slave labor prior to the Civil War and abolition?

00:29:54.220 I've read different estimates.

00:29:56.220 You know, you'll hear different estimates, but it wasn't more than 10 or 12 percent.

00:30:02.220 Potentially much less than that.

00:30:04.220 Okay.

00:30:05.220 Okay.

00:30:06.220 It certainly was not the majority.

00:30:08.220 Okay.

00:30:09.220 Anyone who tries to tell you that slave labor accounted for 50 plus percent of the U.S. economy is insane.

00:30:16.220 I mean, that's just an insane person who's never read a book in their life.

00:30:21.220 No credible historian, not a single one, would tell you that.

00:30:27.220 So the point is that slave labor and cotton were a relatively small part of the economy.

00:30:32.220 And that's that is just the facts.

00:30:34.220 Just the facts.

00:30:35.220 Which is why.

00:30:36.220 So after the Civil War and after the abolition of slavery, our economy took off.

00:30:43.220 Now, yeah, there was a rough period immediately after the war, obviously.

00:30:46.220 I mean, it was a civil war.

00:30:47.220 It killed 600,000 people, died in the Civil War.

00:30:51.220 But it did not take long before America was back on track.

00:30:56.220 And without slave labor, the country thrived.

00:31:01.220 If our economy really depended on slave labor, if black slaves were in fact the backbone, if everything was resting on the backs of African slaves, if they were the driving force of the economy, then when you abolish slavery, it would collapse everything. 0.94

00:31:19.220 OK, it would be the collapse of the country.

00:31:24.220 And if you if it ever clawed itself back, it would take decades and probably longer.

00:31:31.220 And that's not what happened.

00:31:34.220 So.

00:31:36.220 Who did, quote unquote, build the country?

00:31:43.220 Well, this country was, in fact, primarily built by white men. 0.63

00:31:50.220 It just was.

00:31:52.220 That, again, is a historical fact.

00:31:55.220 And what do we mean by built?

00:31:57.220 Well, whatever you mean by the term, it was predominantly white men.

00:32:04.220 White men developed our system of government. 0.87

00:32:07.220 White men came up with our Constitution and also the philosophical foundation of our Constitution and our system of government. 0.99

00:32:14.220 White men were primarily the ones who fought and won our war of independence.

00:32:19.220 White men and the labor of white men accounted for the vast majority, the vast, vast majority of our economy during slavery and after and before. 0.87

00:32:30.220 White men were the pioneers and the soldiers and the inventors and the politicians and the generals and the business leaders. 0.91

00:32:41.220 OK, almost all of the great leaders in all of these areas were white men.

00:32:49.220 Almost all of them.

00:32:52.220 And white men were primarily the ones who abolished slavery on top of it. 0.58

00:32:56.220 So that's a historical reality.

00:33:00.220 And the fact that the fact that that it's even remotely controversial to say this is such an indictment on many things, but mainly our education system.

00:33:13.220 Because everything I'm saying right now, it should be like, well, it should be baffling that I'm even saying it because it's so obvious.

00:33:23.220 You know, but but instead it's it's this is.

00:33:30.220 To to people who were raised in the public school system and didn't do much of their own research when they hear a statement like, well, white men actually were the ones who primarily built the country.

00:33:43.220 When they hear that, that's that's shocking.

00:33:45.220 It's a shocking statement.

00:33:47.220 And they want to deny it.

00:33:49.220 Well, that's that's what do you mean?

00:33:50.220 That's not can't possibly be true.

00:33:53.220 OK, well, again, go go.

00:33:54.220 However, you measure whatever you mean by built and however you measure it.

00:33:58.220 What was the group that was predominantly primarily responsible for it?

00:34:03.220 And it was white men.

00:34:05.220 It just was.

00:34:06.220 That's all.

00:34:08.220 Well, with Valentine's Day around the corner, this post on X went viral.

00:34:16.220 Somebody took a picture from the greeting card section of some store somewhere.

00:34:21.220 And let's put the picture up on the screen here.

00:34:24.220 So you see it there.

00:34:26.220 You can see.

00:34:27.220 Well, actually, you can see quite a few objectionable things going on in this picture that went viral on X.

00:34:33.220 And at the bottom, you have Valentine's cards from the pets.

00:34:38.220 So people are buying themselves a love notes from their pets.

00:34:45.220 I mean, if I worked the cash register at this place.

00:34:51.220 And somebody came up with a card from their cat or whatever, I would refuse it.

00:34:56.220 I would not sell it.

00:34:57.220 I would I would refuse them service for their own sake.

00:35:01.220 I would say I cannot let you do this.

00:35:03.220 I can't like this.

00:35:04.220 This is an intervention because you have hit rock bottom and somebody needs to say something to you.

00:35:09.220 Once you become the kind of person who buys Valentine's cards for or from your pets.

00:35:15.220 There's no going back.

00:35:17.220 And so you've crossed the Rubicon.

00:35:19.220 I can't allow it.

00:35:20.220 I can't allow it.

00:35:21.220 My conscience will not allow it.

00:35:24.220 That's what I would say.

00:35:25.220 But the thing that's caught most people's attention is the are the cards at the top there.

00:35:30.220 Where you have cards for your work wife or your work husband.

00:35:36.220 And this is a thing now, apparently.

00:35:40.220 Apparently, people are buying Valentine's cards for their work spouses.

00:35:44.220 And I knew that this concept of work wife and work husband existed.

00:35:48.220 You know, this is this is a term we hear these days.

00:35:52.220 I didn't know that some stores have sections for them for Valentine's Day.

00:35:57.220 And listen, this obviously shouldn't need to be said.

00:36:01.220 Which really could just be the title of this show, I guess.

00:36:06.220 This shouldn't need to be said could be the title of the show.

00:36:10.220 That's pretty much everything I say on the show.

00:36:12.220 Stuff that shouldn't need to be said.

00:36:13.220 But regardless, if your wife has a work husband. 0.99

00:36:17.220 OK, she's cheating on you. 1.00

00:36:20.220 And likewise, if your husband has a work wife. 0.65

00:36:23.220 He's cheating on you.

00:36:24.220 That's called adultery. 1.00

00:36:25.220 It is at the very like by definition, it's adultery.

00:36:28.220 It is at the very least an emotional affair on its way to becoming a physical affair.

00:36:33.220 Or it already is a physical affair.

00:36:35.220 It probably already is one.

00:36:37.220 And, you know, the problem is not just that your spouse is calling someone else besides you a spouse.

00:36:46.220 Even if it's supposed to be in a half joking way, it's still wildly inappropriate.

00:36:51.220 Outrageously, ridiculously inappropriate.

00:36:54.220 But the problem is not just the name.

00:36:57.220 It's that, you know, if you have a work spouse, quote unquote, it means that you've established an intimate friendship with a member of the opposite sex. 0.51

00:37:09.220 Which is just never OK as a married person.

00:37:14.220 A married person should not have any intimate friendships with members of the opposite sex. 1.00

00:37:20.220 Now, does that mean a married person can't have any friends, period, who are the opposite sex? 0.66

00:37:26.220 That doesn't really mean that, you know, there are appropriate ways for, say, a married man to be friends with a woman.

00:37:35.220 And the best option is that this is someone who you and your wife are both friends with.

00:37:42.220 And the woman is married.

00:37:44.220 And so so so you and your spouse are friends with this other couple.

00:37:49.220 OK, that's a there's a scenario where you might be, quote unquote, friends with a member of the opposite sex as a as a married person.

00:37:58.220 And it's fine, you know, for a married couple to have friends that are other married couples.

00:38:01.220 That's fine. That's healthy. That's a good thing.

00:38:04.220 You should have those kinds of friends.

00:38:06.220 But outside of that, you know, if you have a friend of the opposite sex as a married person and this is not a mutual friend who is part of a couple that you and your spouse are friends with.

00:38:16.220 If this is just your friend, then by friend, we should be talking about someone who you work with and are friendly with and maybe get along with.

00:38:27.220 But it shouldn't be more than that. Like, that's all that the word friend should really mean in that case.

00:38:34.220 You certainly shouldn't be going out to lunches one on one with this person or, you know, texting all the time or hanging out one on one or just building any intimacy at all.

00:38:47.220 You should not be doing it should be a friend in the broadest, broadest sense.

00:38:52.220 And intimacy is really the point here. Like, that's that's the point.

00:38:57.220 Intimacy doesn't always mean, you know, you talk about being intimate with someone.

00:39:03.220 We use that euphemistically to mean sexual activity, but it doesn't have to mean that intimacy just means most literally closeness.

00:39:11.220 You know, if you are, you know, if someone is an intimate friend, it means that you're it's a close friend.

00:39:17.220 This is a close bond. A close bond is intimacy.

00:39:21.220 And as a married person, you should simply not have any close bonds with anyone of the opposite sex unless they're an immediate family member. 0.99

00:39:31.220 And there should be no intimacy being built or established, formed with a member of the opposite with a member of the opposite sex. 0.99

00:39:42.220 And if there is like that can that can only lead to bad places.

00:39:49.220 There's no win there. Like, what's the win as a as a if you're a married woman and you have a job. 1.00

00:39:56.220 And you're building an intimate close relationship with a guy that you work with and he's not your husband.

00:40:01.220 What's the win? Like, how does that make your life better in the end?

00:40:05.220 What's what's the what's the where's this going?

00:40:07.220 What's the you know, what's the five year plan here?

00:40:12.220 What do you think this looks like five years from now?

00:40:14.220 No, it can only it.

00:40:18.220 The best you can hope for is that it won't damage your marriage as much as it could.

00:40:26.220 Like it's this now it's just damage mitigation.

00:40:29.220 The best you can hope for is that this intimate relationship you're building with someone who's not your spouse won't completely destroy your marriage.

00:40:38.220 But it certainly won't help it.

00:40:40.220 And there's a good chance it will totally destroy it.

00:40:42.220 So as I said, this these are just things that should need to be said.

00:40:45.220 But these days they do.

00:40:47.220 I mean, I'll never forget the controversy around Mike Pence.

00:40:52.220 You know, way back in ancient times, back in 2016 or whatever, when he infamously said that he doesn't go on lunch dates with women who aren't his wife.

00:41:04.220 And this was treated as some sort of shocking statement.

00:41:08.220 Meanwhile, to any normal person, you're like, well, yeah, of course not.

00:41:13.220 What do you who of course you're not going to lunch date with a woman is not my wife. 1.00

00:41:18.220 That's bizarre. I would never do that.

00:41:20.220 But to a lot of people, they they saw it as strange, which is which is one of the reasons why, you know, a lot of people.

00:41:30.220 Just have a very hard time forming and maintaining romantic relationships and marriages.

00:41:37.220 And like this is why.

00:41:41.220 One more thing. I want to play this for you before we get to the comment section.

00:41:44.220 The comment section. This is a video posted by the reporter Colin Rugg on X.

00:41:48.220 And this is footage from Utah, apparently.

00:41:51.220 And it shows a car getting hit by a train.

00:41:53.220 Nobody's in the car.

00:41:56.220 Nobody's in the car.

00:41:57.220 So, you know, it's you don't have to worry about that.

00:42:01.220 I'm not going to show you a video where someone gets hit by a car, but hit by a train.

00:42:04.220 The car gets hit.

00:42:05.220 No one's in the car.

00:42:06.220 The driver bails before the train hits the car.

00:42:08.220 So nobody's hurt.

00:42:09.220 But I want to I want you to see how this transpired.

00:42:12.220 How does a car get hit by a train?

00:42:15.220 And how does the driver have time to bail out of the car, but doesn't have time to move the car off of the tracks?

00:42:23.220 Did the car break down or something?

00:42:25.220 Was it stuck somehow?

00:42:27.220 Well, no.

00:42:28.220 Well, no.

00:42:29.220 So let's take a look.

00:42:30.220 And I'll narrate this for the benefit of the audio podcast listeners, because there's no audio to it.

00:42:35.220 But let's take a look here.

00:42:36.220 OK, so the train's coming.

00:42:38.220 The the arm goes down.

00:42:40.220 OK, now you get the white SUV on the tracks.

00:42:42.220 The arm is down.

00:42:43.220 Train is coming.

00:42:44.220 Tries to back up.

00:42:45.220 Hits the arm.

00:42:47.220 OK, what are you going to do now?

00:42:48.220 Well, you could pull forward.

00:42:50.220 Just keep going.

00:42:51.220 Go forward.

00:42:52.220 Just keep driving.

00:42:53.220 Just drive.

00:42:54.220 You're fine.

00:42:55.220 Or you could even just make a U-turn.

00:42:57.220 You could make a U-turn right here.

00:42:59.220 And you got all this time.

00:43:00.220 Look at this.

00:43:01.220 Train still is not there.

00:43:02.220 All this time.

00:43:03.220 All this time.

00:43:04.220 And then this person just hops out of the car, leaves it on the track.

00:43:08.220 And it gets hit by the train.

00:43:10.220 Nobody was hurt.

00:43:11.220 Hundred thousand dollars of damage, though.

00:43:13.220 And and so there you go.

00:43:16.220 OK, now.

00:43:18.220 So this person totally panicked.

00:43:20.220 This was the most avoidable train collision in history.

00:43:23.220 In the entire history of locomotion, this was the most avoidable accident ever was was this.

00:43:32.220 And here's my point when I look at this.

00:43:36.220 And I'm not just making fun of this guy.

00:43:38.220 Or let's be honest.

00:43:40.220 Probably not a guy.

00:43:42.220 But this this has woman written all over it. 1.00

00:43:44.220 I'm not.

00:43:45.220 No offense, ladies. 0.99

00:43:46.220 I don't mean it.

00:43:47.220 But but come on.

00:43:48.220 There's just no way that was a man.

00:43:50.220 That's I refuse to believe it.

00:43:52.220 And if that was a man that he has his man card is permanently revoked lifetime suspension.

00:43:58.220 You are in this life and the next.

00:44:00.220 You're never getting it back if that was a man. 0.98

00:44:02.220 But whatever the sex of the driver, here's the point.

00:44:07.220 When I'm out on the roads, I see this level of bad driving every day.

00:44:13.220 Like every day.

00:44:14.220 Now, I've never seen this exact thing happen.

00:44:17.220 I've never seen a car get hit by a train. 0.99

00:44:19.220 But this level of stupidity, this quality of driving, I see every day, every day all over the place. 1.00

00:44:28.220 We all do. 1.00

00:44:29.220 Bad driving is an epidemic.

00:44:32.220 Like I there's been studies done on this.

00:44:35.220 And I don't know how much you can trust the studies or how exactly you measure that.

00:44:38.220 Well, there are things you can measure, you know, the number of accidents, moving violations and that sort of thing.

00:44:42.220 But most of the studies and surveys that have been done have have have have have have have have showed this as well, that driving the quality of driving in this country is is getting worse.

00:44:55.220 It's not just your imagination.

00:44:57.220 And I think we have reached crisis levels of bad driving.

00:45:01.220 We really have.

00:45:02.220 The fact that this person in the video is allowed to have a license and will keep their license even after this incident.

00:45:09.220 Tells you that we have a true systemic problem here.

00:45:14.220 And it is widespread.

00:45:16.220 I mean, it's very much just the other day.

00:45:18.220 I had to swerve around someone on the highway.

00:45:21.220 Because they slammed on their brakes.

00:45:25.220 So that they could change lanes.

00:45:28.220 OK, and I would I had a safe distance.

00:45:30.220 I wasn't riding their bumper, but it's the highway.

00:45:32.220 We're going 70 miles an hour.

00:45:33.220 Right.

00:45:34.220 Keeping up with the speed of traffic.

00:45:36.220 And it's slam on their brakes.

00:45:39.220 In order to change lanes.

00:45:41.220 There's you should never be slamming your brakes on the highway at all unless you have to because there's someone slamming their brakes in front of you.

00:45:51.220 But slamming your brakes to change lanes should just never happen.

00:45:55.220 And this kind of thing happens all the time.

00:45:57.220 I mean, I had someone break suddenly on the highway a few days before that because they were about to miss their exit.

00:46:04.220 Like I said, this kind of every day I feel like I see this.

00:46:07.220 Someone's about to miss their exit and they panic.

00:46:10.220 They just slam on their brakes dead stop on the highway in order to hit the exit.

00:46:15.220 Well, here's a news flash, everybody.

00:46:18.220 If you're about to miss your exit and the only way to make it is to slam on your brakes or swerve across three lanes of traffic, just miss your exit.

00:46:30.220 It's OK.

00:46:31.220 It's you'll be fine.

00:46:33.220 It's just missed the exit.

00:46:34.220 You missed it.

00:46:35.220 It's OK.

00:46:36.220 Take the next exit and all the roads are connected.

00:46:40.220 The highway is good.

00:46:42.220 There's a there's another lane going that way.

00:46:44.220 Did you not just take the next exit and turn around and you'll be fine.

00:46:48.220 You've maybe added five minutes onto your drive time.

00:46:51.220 Maybe in exchange.

00:46:54.220 You won't kill yourself and 10 other people.

00:46:56.220 That's a pretty good trade off.

00:46:58.220 Here's a similar note, because this is something another thing.

00:47:02.220 This feels like an everyday occurrence.

00:47:05.220 If you're trying to make a left turn onto a busy road during rush hour and you want to make, you know, you want to make the left turn across two or three lanes of busy traffic and you're having trouble finding a safe opening.

00:47:19.220 Right.

00:47:20.220 And you have a line of cars piling up behind you.

00:47:23.220 Many of those cars want to turn right.

00:47:25.220 They could easily turn right, but they got to wait for you because you want to make the left turn across all that traffic. 0.98

00:47:30.220 And you're sitting there for 15 damn minutes. 0.86

00:47:32.220 And there's no there's no spacing that you feel comfortable. 0.99

00:47:36.220 Just take a right turn.

00:47:38.220 Right turn.

00:47:39.220 Just turn right and go down the road a bit and make a safe U-turn at the next stoplight.

00:47:45.220 OK, just just do that again.

00:47:49.220 You add five minutes.

00:47:50.220 Maybe actually you end up saving time because you're not waiting so long to find an opening that you're comfortable with.

00:47:56.220 OK, and this is the kind of this is the kind of just like panicked, unsure, lacking confidence, irrational decision making that I see people show demonstrating on the roads every single day.

00:48:15.220 Everyone is either driving way too scared and overcautious or they're reckless to the point of suicidal.

00:48:22.220 Those are the two extremes that I see from drivers every day.

00:48:27.220 Except me.

00:48:29.220 There's there's 10 or 11 good drivers left on the road.

00:48:32.220 I'm one of them.

00:48:34.220 And if you're listening to this, you might think that you're one.

00:48:36.220 Maybe you are.

00:48:37.220 But then that leaves like nine more.

00:48:39.220 And that's it.

00:48:40.220 We're the only ones.

00:48:41.220 It's a it's miraculous.

00:48:43.220 That we're not all dead.

00:48:45.220 I don't know how that's possible.

00:48:48.220 I really there needs to be like we need to get serious about this.

00:48:52.220 There needs to be we need to ramp up the driver's test.

00:48:55.220 We need you need to have to take the driver.

00:48:58.220 I know before I said, well, once you once you're elderly, once you get to 65 or 70, you should have to retake the driver's test.

00:49:02.220 You probably should have to retake it.

00:49:04.220 Like there probably needs to be a system where you retake it every five years unless you earn.

00:49:11.220 So for me, I have not been in an accident or had any kind of moving violation for like 15 years.

00:49:17.220 OK, and I think once you get into the decade plus club, we'll call it the decade plus.

00:49:22.220 It's the decade club.

00:49:23.220 When you make it into the decade club, you have not had any incidents of any kind in 10 plus years.

00:49:27.220 Then then you've earned the right.

00:49:29.220 You don't have to take the test anymore.

00:49:30.220 There should be a separate lane in the on the highway just for you for the decade club.

00:49:35.220 These are the drivers who actually know how to drive.

00:49:37.220 You get to go on that lane and everybody else.

00:49:40.220 The people I get in accidents every two weeks like they can have this lane over here.

00:49:44.220 Build a wall.

00:49:45.220 Build a wall.

00:49:46.220 OK, build a wall between.

00:49:47.220 I don't I don't want those people even.

00:49:49.220 I don't want them to have access to my lane at all.

00:49:53.220 And everybody else until you get into the decade plus club until you can go 10 years without an accident or a moving violation.

00:50:01.220 You have to take the driver's test.

00:50:03.220 At least every five years, probably every two years, maybe every year is what we should do.

00:50:08.220 And then just start taking driver's license away.

00:50:10.220 Probably without exaggeration, I would without exaggerating, I would say probably at least 40% of the people on the road shouldn't be on it and should just have their driver's license revoked.

00:50:22.220 It is just crazy.

00:50:24.220 It's crazy that we let this.

00:50:25.220 It's insane that we let people who clearly have no clue what they're doing.

00:50:31.220 We let them navigate these giant hunks of metal down the highway at fatal speeds without having any idea what they're doing.

00:50:44.220 It's nuts.

00:50:45.220 It is crazy.

00:50:46.220 All right.

00:50:48.220 Let's get to the comment section.

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00:52:20.220 I want to let you know that tomorrow we've got a special episode of the Matt Walsh show tomorrow.

00:52:24.220 We could do things a little bit differently.

00:52:26.220 We don't do a lot of interviews on this show, but tomorrow, for the show tomorrow, I'll be interviewing, actually already sat down with him, Zachary Levi, who's of course a Hollywood actor.

00:52:37.220 And we talked for a while about everything from acting to, you know, just the movie business and the direction of the movie business these days.

00:52:46.220 Also, Zachary Levi sort of came out of the political closet back during the election endorsing RFK Jr. and then Trump.

00:52:56.220 So we talked about that and about AI, which, as you know, we discussed this on the show.

00:53:02.220 It's a particular concern of mine and of his, and I thought that was a fascinating part of the conversation.

00:53:06.220 So that interview will be tomorrow for the Matt Walsh show.

00:53:10.220 Let's look at some of these comments.

00:53:12.220 I'm an introvert and don't want to socialize when I get groceries.

00:53:15.220 Someone else agrees.

00:53:16.220 I'm 100% pro self-checkout.

00:53:17.220 I say it is much better because I can get through the checkout process so much faster.

00:53:21.220 I don't want to talk to anyone.

00:53:23.220 Win-win.

00:53:24.220 Listen, I get that.

00:53:25.220 I'm an introvert, too.

00:53:27.220 I don't have any great desire to make small talk with a cashier or anyone else.

00:53:31.220 And I could be happy going through a whole day not talking to anyone.

00:53:35.220 But I also recognize that that is not a recipe for a thriving and functioning society.

00:53:40.220 You know, that's not a recipe for human flourishing.

00:53:43.220 And the fact is that, and I say this again as a full-on introvert, the fact is that human

00:53:48.220 existence, life, should force us to have interactions with people frequently when we're out in public.

00:53:55.220 I understand not wanting to.

00:53:57.220 I get that.

00:53:58.220 I relate to that.

00:53:59.220 But we should.

00:54:00.220 But we should.

00:54:01.220 Like, it's a good thing.

00:54:03.220 It's good for you.

00:54:04.220 It's good for the other person.

00:54:05.220 It's just good for society.

00:54:07.220 And so it's like when I'm standing in line somewhere or I'm on an elevator or something,

00:54:12.220 I don't really want to make small talk with anybody.

00:54:15.220 And these days I don't have to because everybody is looking down at their phones, ignoring

00:54:19.220 each other.

00:54:20.220 But is that actually better?

00:54:22.220 You know, it's like, yeah, I'm getting what I want.

00:54:24.220 But is it actually better?

00:54:25.220 Is that better for me?

00:54:26.220 Is that better for everybody?

00:54:28.220 Is it healthy?

00:54:30.220 Is it ultimately helping me to flourish and be happy?

00:54:33.220 And is it good for society when we're all just these sort of atomized individuals in our own little universes that are all contained on this phone and we're giving more of our attention to the screen than to the world around us?

00:54:49.220 Is that actually healthy?

00:54:50.220 I think that most people would say that it's not.

00:54:51.220 So that's the distinction we have to draw.

00:54:56.220 Let's see.

00:54:57.220 Let's see.

00:54:58.220 That's your opinion, buddy.

00:55:00.220 You're starting to sound like a nagging broken record.

00:55:03.220 All you do is blah, blah, blah.

00:55:05.220 Learn a real skill.

00:55:06.220 Just unsubscribed.

00:55:08.220 I'm just trying to understand this.

00:55:11.220 So you subscribed to my opinion show and then unsubscribed because all I do is give my opinions.

00:55:24.220 That's what happened here.

00:55:26.220 Just to be clear.

00:55:27.220 All you do is blah, blah, blah.

00:55:30.220 Well, yeah, that's.

00:55:31.220 Yeah.

00:55:32.220 I mean, what else am I supposed to do?

00:55:34.220 It's a talk show.

00:55:35.220 I talk.

00:55:36.220 That's it.

00:55:37.220 That's the whole deal.

00:55:38.220 That's what this is.

00:55:39.220 I don't know.

00:55:40.220 What did you think you were getting when you subscribed to this?

00:55:44.220 Isn't that like subscribing to our good friends, good ranchers for a delicious box of meat and then getting mad?

00:55:53.220 All they do is send you meat.

00:55:55.220 You know, is it's like you leave an angry review on Yelp or something saying I wanted them to send me shoes, but all I got was steak.

00:56:05.220 Well, yeah, that's but that that's what that's what they do.

00:56:10.220 Like that's their.

00:56:11.220 Why did you sign up for it if that's not what you wanted?

00:56:16.220 I don't get it.

00:56:19.220 I appreciate the cautionary AI sentiment, Matt.

00:56:22.220 However, I'm not sure how you justify protecting any jobs from automation.

00:56:26.220 How in the world could you delineate which ones?

00:56:28.220 Well, it's a good question.

00:56:29.220 I'm not saying that I have the answer to it exactly, but I do know the answer can't be none.

00:56:34.220 OK, the answer to which industries we save can't be no industries.

00:56:40.220 So it's a matter of balancing things and trade offs.

00:56:43.220 And I mean, this is the debate that we should be having.

00:56:46.220 Where do we put up the guardrails?

00:56:47.220 But to me, no guardrails is a recipe for.

00:56:50.220 You know, truly the destruction of human society as we know it.

00:56:56.220 I mean, and and I don't mean because A.I. becomes sentient and enslaves us or whatever.

00:57:03.220 I mean, because all the jobs are just wiped out and there's nothing left for people to do.

00:57:09.220 So that's what I'm worried about. 0.99

00:57:12.220 Wow, I rarely hear Matt say something outright stupid, but he just has. 0.99

00:57:18.220 Yes, according to Matt, it was OK for Andrew Jackson to ignore the Supreme Court. 0.99

00:57:21.220 And it's OK for Trump to ignore federal courts if they exceed their legitimacy.

00:57:24.220 But of course, this is not the issue.

00:57:25.220 Neither Trump nor Matt Walsh can actually determine their legitimacy.

00:57:28.220 When Andrew Jackson ignored the Supreme Court and Matt advocates Trump's ignoring the federal courts,

00:57:33.220 this is simply a matter of brute power.

00:57:35.220 Andrew Jackson at least was honest about it.

00:57:36.220 Chief Justice John Marshall, Justice Marshall has made his decision.

00:57:39.220 Now let him enforce it.

00:57:40.220 Matt is literally, literally, this is not a metaphor, advocating fascism.

00:57:44.220 The fascist was the bundle of sticks bound around an axe that was carried by officers of the Roman Senate to symbolize the power the Senate had to enforce decisions.

00:57:53.220 Matt is advocating for pure power here.

00:57:55.220 Does he really not realize it or understand its dangers?

00:57:58.220 No, I would say that you're advocating for pure power.

00:58:00.220 I mean, you're saying that when a judge declares something, it must automatically be obeyed, even if he has no authority to declare it.

00:58:07.220 So, at the very least, if I'm advocating for, quote unquote, pure power, then so are you.

00:58:14.220 Right?

00:58:15.220 By your own logic, somebody in this scenario is wielding pure power.

00:58:22.220 So, if you have a judge just declaring something, making an order that exceeds his own authority, and then you've got a president who is supposed to be subject to that order, like either the president gives in to the will of the judge, and so the judge is now exercising pure power that he has no right to exercise.

00:58:45.220 Or the president says no, and exercises his own power.

00:58:48.220 So, you know, either way, it comes back to that problem.

00:58:54.220 Now, when judges are acting illegitimately, I agree, it does create a problem of, well, who decides, like, how do you, who decides if it was illegitimate?

00:59:06.220 That's a problem, but that's a problem created by the judge.

00:59:11.220 And so, what would, what is your, what's your alternative?

00:59:18.220 You know, when you have a judge just standing up one day saying, you know what, the president has to do this thing over here, and he has no authority to tell the president to do it.

00:59:29.220 What, what do you think should happen?

00:59:32.220 Well, apparently, you think the president should just do it, even if he, even if, even if, even if there's no actual force of law behind what the judge said.

00:59:41.220 And I, we gave several examples of judges acting that way, but I think, as I said yesterday, the most, the most egregious was the judge just telling the president that he has to put up certain web pages.

00:59:55.220 Like, what? You tell me where in the Constitution this federal judge derives the authority to tell the president what websites he has to have on the, on the, or what, what information he has to have on the websites for his federal agencies.

01:00:13.220 And when a judge is just being absurd and saying, oh, you have to do this, I think the, the only appropriate response is to ignore it.

01:00:20.580 That's the way I see it.

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01:01:02.160 Actually, there will be no daily cancellation per se today.

01:01:05.400 I want to talk about Pope Francis.

01:01:07.320 And as a Catholic, I wouldn't feel right canceling the Pope.

01:01:10.220 So we'll drop that framing for today.

01:01:12.700 But I do need to criticize him.

01:01:14.100 And because the Pope this week published a letter to U.S. bishops where he condemned Trump's immigration policies.

01:01:22.420 And now, depending on where you go for your Catholic news and commentary, you may have heard that he didn't really condemn Trump's immigration policies.

01:01:31.380 But he did, quite plainly.

01:01:33.640 And I'll show you in a moment.

01:01:34.700 Now, if you're confused about what he said, well, that's because confusion is the name of the game and has been for as long as Pope Francis has been the Pope.

01:01:42.520 These sorts of stories always follow the same pattern.

01:01:46.220 Pope Francis will issue some unfortunate opinion about some subject.

01:01:50.360 The left-wing press will latch onto it and suddenly rediscover a newfound respect for the Catholic Church, which will then be dropped five seconds later.

01:01:57.700 Meanwhile, many, though certainly not all, Catholic commentators, even the conservative ones, will try to look for some nuanced way to avoid saying what we all know to be the case, which is that the Pope was wrong to have said whatever he said.

01:02:14.320 The Pope's statements make this kind of obfuscation very plausible, and that's by design.

01:02:19.260 The point of the Pope issuing any statement or opinion about anything should be to shed light, to lend clarity where confusion and disagreement otherwise reign.

01:02:28.780 But Pope Francis very often does exactly the opposite, and I think pretty clearly he does it deliberately.

01:02:36.660 And he's been doing it throughout his whole pontificate.

01:02:40.260 He ensures that everybody will be more confused after he's finished talking than they were when he started talking.

01:02:46.440 But if you sort through the opaque and weirdly passive language that he so often uses, you get to the heart of what he's actually saying.

01:02:54.540 And too often, what he's actually saying is just simply wrong.

01:02:58.760 And we must call it wrong, because if we don't, we are allowing falsehoods to be spread unchallenged.

01:03:05.500 Many Catholics feel uncomfortable denouncing falsehoods from the Pope, but I would say that if falsehoods from anyone should be denounced, then they must especially be denounced from the Pope.

01:03:16.440 As I said, this has been the case through his whole tenure.

01:03:19.960 Most infamously, several years ago, the Pope made alterations to the Catechism, declaring that the death penalty is inadmissible.

01:03:28.980 Now, thanks to the Pope's edits, the Catechism now says,

01:03:31.920 There's an increasing awareness that the dignity of the person is not lost even after the commission of very serious crimes.

01:03:38.440 In addition, a new understanding has emerged of the significance of penal sanctions imposed by the state.

01:03:43.360 Lastly, more effective systems of detention have been developed, which ensure that the due protection of citizens,

01:03:48.560 but at the same time, do not definitively deprive the guilty of the possibility of redemption.

01:03:53.120 Consequently, the church teaches, in light of the gospel, that the death penalty is inadmissible because it is an attack on the inviolability and dignity of the person.

01:04:02.220 And she works with determination for its abolition worldwide.

01:04:05.580 Now, there you see the kind of weird and passive opaque language that I mentioned.

01:04:10.540 He says,

01:04:10.960 Well, what in the world does that mean?

01:04:18.540 Where has this understanding emerged?

01:04:21.940 What do you mean an understanding has emerged?

01:04:24.680 What?

01:04:26.620 Who has become aware?

01:04:28.240 Who understands this?

01:04:29.780 And what exactly have they become aware of?

01:04:32.340 Well, apparently, they're aware that the death penalty is inadmissible because it's an attack on the dignity of a person.

01:04:39.060 And the problem with this claim is not just that it directly contradicts what the church had said for 2,000 years prior to that moment,

01:04:47.580 and what every great Catholic thinker had ever said,

01:04:50.820 but also, most crucially, it contradicts God himself in Holy Scripture.

01:04:55.820 God prescribes the death penalty for many offenses in the Old Testament,

01:05:01.420 or at least a number of offenses in the Old Testament.

01:05:04.360 The Pope is claiming not just that the death penalty is unnecessary now,

01:05:10.660 but that it is fundamentally immoral, inadmissible,

01:05:14.580 because it is an attack on human dignity.

01:05:17.820 That's what he said.

01:05:19.020 Which means that the Pope has accused God of attacking human dignity.

01:05:24.540 Or else the Pope denied the truth of Scripture,

01:05:26.840 or else he's claiming that God was unaware of the problems with the death penalty,

01:05:30.940 and that he, the Pope, has greater moral awareness than God does.

01:05:34.680 I mean, those are the only three possible interpretations of the Pope's claims.

01:05:38.860 He wrote what he wrote.

01:05:40.560 And that's what it says.

01:05:42.420 There is no way to cleverly nuance your way out of it.

01:05:46.520 The Pope said that God committed a moral error.

01:05:50.180 I mean, there's no way for any honest person to deny that.

01:05:53.440 So, the Pope was wrong.

01:05:55.940 Very catastrophically wrong, I would say.

01:05:58.240 And we must say so, because we are morally bound to side with the truth at all times.

01:06:04.780 Even, and I would say especially, when the Pope positions himself against it.

01:06:09.520 And that brings us to his letter on immigration, published this week.

01:06:12.180 It's a long letter with lots of fluff that we can skim past,

01:06:15.260 but the meat of the letter is this part.

01:06:17.360 Quote,

01:06:47.360 Now, there's more nonsense in the Pope's letter, but this is all we need to talk about.

01:07:06.060 If you parse through the needless wordiness designed to give plausible deniability to those

01:07:10.820 who refuse to acknowledge that the Pope is ever wrong about anything,

01:07:14.340 what you find is that the Pope believes that illegal immigration is not a crime in and of itself,

01:07:21.340 and that deporting people, the act of deportation itself, damages the dignity,

01:07:28.520 those are quotes, of the people being deported.

01:07:32.340 That's what he said.

01:07:33.780 And he's very wrong on both counts.

01:07:37.460 Now, as for the first count, it is simply a fact that coming into the country illegally 0.98

01:07:42.400 is a violation of the law.

01:07:45.000 The only way for it to not be a violation of the law is to get rid of the laws forbidding it,

01:07:51.080 which would mean forfeiting your borders and your national sovereignty entirely.

01:07:54.620 The Pope is either demanding that the U.S. surrender itself to this fate,

01:08:00.560 or he's making the nonsensical claim that though we have laws against illegal immigration,

01:08:05.880 we should not consider it a crime when the law is broken,

01:08:09.420 which is like demanding that though we have water,

01:08:13.280 we should not consider a person wet when they jump into it.

01:08:16.960 I mean, it just makes no sense.

01:08:18.460 And it's wrong.

01:08:20.140 It's wrong both factually and morally.

01:08:23.600 The other claim is even worse.

01:08:25.120 He says, again, quite plainly,

01:08:26.980 after you sift through the superfluous language,

01:08:30.360 he says that deporting people damages dignity.

01:08:34.740 And that means that, in the Pope's eyes,

01:08:36.840 deportations are inherently immoral

01:08:39.260 because it is basic Catholic teaching that any action

01:08:42.600 which intentionally violates or attacks human dignity is immoral.

01:08:47.240 So he doesn't say that deportation is a sin exactly,

01:08:51.300 but that is the very clear implication of his claim that it damages dignity.

01:08:56.400 And he's wrong.

01:08:57.820 Again, nobody's dignity is damaged

01:09:00.820 by facing the rightful consequences of their lawless behavior.

01:09:05.320 Deportation does not damage the dignity of the illegal alien

01:09:08.340 any more than prison damages the dignity of a convict.

01:09:11.760 The crime that led to those consequences is what damages dignity.

01:09:15.700 It is in the courageous and honest acceptance of consequences of the crime

01:09:22.980 that the lawbreaker can have his dignity not damaged, but rather restored.

01:09:29.400 True repentance must begin with acceptance of the rightful consequences.

01:09:33.700 That's why a murderer who got away with his crime

01:09:36.620 cannot claim that he's repented unless he's already turned himself into the police.

01:09:42.320 You cannot repent while hiding from the just punishment that you are due.

01:09:48.420 That punishment is justice. 0.99

01:09:50.640 And justice does not damage dignity.

01:09:53.620 It never does.

01:09:54.580 It can't.

01:09:56.140 Again, justice restores dignity.

01:10:00.320 Deportation is the morally right and also logical consequence 1.00

01:10:03.660 of sneaking into a country in defiance of its laws.

01:10:06.780 Getting thrown out of a place is always the rightful consequence of having sneaked into it. 0.90

01:10:13.900 There may be other consequences too, and often should be,

01:10:16.560 but the first and most immediate one is that you are forced to leave.

01:10:20.840 The person kicking you out is not attacking your dignity.

01:10:25.260 If you want to reclaim your dignity, then you should say,

01:10:27.960 you know what, you're right.

01:10:29.080 I shouldn't have done that.

01:10:29.960 I accept this consequence.

01:10:31.520 I will leave, and I apologize.

01:10:33.540 That is how you can restore your own dignity,

01:10:37.660 by accepting the consequence in a dignified manner.

01:10:43.580 Now, the Pope should know something about this.

01:10:46.280 I mean, it's not as though the Vatican is open to whoever wants to come and live there.

01:10:51.540 As many people have pointed out, the Vatican is surrounded by walls,

01:10:55.020 and from behind those walls, the Pope declares that we should not have any.

01:11:00.060 You know, this point about the Pope living behind walls may be cliched now,

01:11:03.300 but it's not overly simplistic or false.

01:11:06.340 It, in fact, gets right to the heart of the matter.

01:11:08.860 The Vatican could not exist if it did not have rules for who can come and when and how and in what capacity,

01:11:16.820 and if it did not also enforce those rules.

01:11:18.900 Nothing can exist without that sort of system and without the enforcement of that system,

01:11:25.680 which means that our country could not exist without it.

01:11:29.360 When the Pope condemns our immigration enforcement,

01:11:31.560 he is, in effect, declaring that the United States has no moral right to exist.

01:11:38.340 Whether he's thought it all the way through or not,

01:11:40.560 whether he fully realizes that those are the implications of his false statements about our immigration laws,

01:11:45.060 I cannot say, because I can't read his mind.

01:11:46.920 Either he's thought it through and knows that he's attacking the very existence of our country,

01:11:51.860 which would be very bad,

01:11:53.420 or he hasn't thought it through and doesn't even understand what he's saying or what it actually means,

01:11:58.300 which, in fact, would be even worse.

01:12:02.020 And either way, he is wrong.

01:12:04.480 He is extremely wrong, and as a Catholic, I feel compelled and duty-bound to say so.

01:12:11.260 And now I have.

01:12:13.000 And that'll do it for the show today.

01:12:14.280 Thanks for watching.

01:12:14.920 Thanks for listening.

01:12:15.420 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:12:16.620 Have a great day.

01:12:17.680 Godspeed.

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