The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1539 - Democrats Have Entered Panic Mode As RFK Sets Out To Make America Healthy Again

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, with RFK Jr. confirmed as HHS secretary, we will finally have someone in a position of authority who's willing to investigate all the psychiatric drugs that are prescribed to millions of Americans, starting with antidepressants.

00:00:11.760 Also, Trump makes the first major mistake of his presidency by signing an executive order expanding access to IVF.

00:00:18.640 And a couple of weird Democrats in Ohio have proposed a law banning men from having sex unless they intend to conceive a child.

00:00:25.380 It's supposed to make some kind of point about abortion laws, but it actually proves the opposite case.

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00:01:34.400 Imagine that we're back in the late 1980s or early 1990s, and you're feeling depressed, and nobody wants to talk to you,

00:01:40.780 so you pay a psychiatrist to listen to your problems, but even after talking things out with your shrink, you're still not feeling great, and all hope seems lost.

00:01:48.600 Then the shrink tells you not to despair because you have an opportunity to participate in a clinical trial for a new class of drug that has the potential to cure all of your symptoms called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs.

00:02:02.980 And if you enter the trial, you have a chance of getting the new SSRI drug, or you can get a placebo that does nothing.

00:02:09.980 But you're told it's a win-win.

00:02:10.980 You know, if you participate in the clinical trial, big pharma will get some more data on whether this new class of drug actually works, and you have a chance of being cured.

00:02:20.000 If you're not cured, then in all likelihood, the worst-case scenario is, you know, is not a big deal.

00:02:24.820 Either you get a placebo and nothing changes, or you get the real drug, which has relatively modest side effects like dry mouth, nausea, dizziness, and so on.

00:02:32.580 In exchange for enduring those side effects, your depression might go away.

00:02:36.880 So what do you have to lose?

00:02:38.520 Well, this was the process that drug companies used to convince the world that SSRIs worked.

00:02:45.340 After running a bunch of double-blind clinical trials, they found that people who took the SSRIs ultimately reported that they felt better than people who received the placebo.

00:02:54.920 And therefore, we were told that the whole serotonin theory of depression must be true.

00:02:58.380 After all, when people took SSRIs and had more serotonin in their brains, their depression went away.

00:03:04.380 People who took the sugar pill didn't do as well, so there you have it.

00:03:09.360 Science wins again.

00:03:11.200 But there's a major problem with this whole methodology, and it's a problem that somehow didn't occur to any of the media outlets or physicians who pushed SSRIs for many decades.

00:03:22.660 And you might have to think about it for a few minutes, but eventually it becomes obvious.

00:03:27.120 Here's the issue.

00:03:28.900 In practice, these clinical trials were not actually double-blind studies.

00:03:34.880 The vast majority of patients were able to break blind, as they say in the industry, and that means they were able to figure out whether they got the real SSRI or the placebo, which destroys the whole study.

00:03:46.640 And that's because in most cases, the patients who got the real drug very quickly noticed that they were experiencing some of the side effects.

00:03:53.020 After all, if you take a pill and you start experiencing dry mouth or nausea or something like that, then you'll probably conclude that you're taking active medication.

00:04:01.940 And that's exactly what happened in many of these trials.

00:04:03.920 In fact, one study conducted by researchers at Columbia says that 89% of participants correctly guessed that they were on the SSRI, which is an extremely high number for a clinical trial.

00:04:17.100 Now, you can probably see the issue, hopefully.

00:04:20.980 If the studies aren't really double-blind, then we have no way of knowing if the SSRIs actually improved people's minds.

00:04:28.520 It's quite possible that these patients were actually feeling better because they thought they were taking a wonder drug.

00:04:35.920 And because we're talking about people's emotional state, which is very fickle and highly suggestible, if you tell them they're taking a wonder drug that will make them feel better, a lot of people will just feel better because you told them that they would.

00:04:52.140 And they convinced themselves that it was working, so they told the therapist that they were improving.

00:04:55.800 And this is commonly referred to as the placebo effect, of course.

00:04:58.860 And the only way to defeat it, particularly when you're trying to assess the effectiveness of psychoactive drugs, is with double-blind studies.

00:05:07.240 But that didn't really happen with SSRIs.

00:05:10.520 And this is not some crackpot theory, by the way.

00:05:12.820 A few years ago, a researcher at Harvard named Irving Kirsch found that, quote,

00:05:16.540 analysis of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most, if not all, of the benefits are due to the placebo effect.

00:05:25.460 The relatively small differences between drug and placebo and antidepressant trials are at least in part due to breaking blind and discerning that one is in the drug group because of the side effects produced by the drug.

00:05:35.660 Now, Kirsch goes on to suggest that instead of SSRIs, maybe all patients should just be given a placebo.

00:05:41.960 After all, based on the FDA's data, less than 45% of SSRI trials showed a statistically significant benefit of the SSRI over a placebo.

00:05:51.560 And the placebo, of course, has no side effects.

00:05:55.100 But as we all know, there's no money in prescribing sugar pills.

00:05:57.740 So instead, doctors in the pharmaceutical industry pushed SSRIs based on these garbage clinical trials, which fall apart under the slimmest possible scrutiny.

00:06:08.900 The use of SSRIs among teenagers and adults in this country increased by almost 400% from the early 1990s to 2006.

00:06:16.960 And it kept going up.

00:06:18.320 By 2014, one in 10 adults was filling an SSRI prescription.

00:06:22.580 From 2015 to 2021, SSRI use increased by another 35%.

00:06:27.580 So we're talking about tens of millions of prescriptions here.

00:06:32.540 Meanwhile, the number of Americans suffering from depression has only kept increasing.

00:06:37.040 According to Gallup in 2023, the percentage of U.S. adults who reported having been diagnosed with depression at some point in their lifetime reached 29%, nearly 10 percentage points higher than in 2015.

00:06:46.800 So, in other words, we are more depressed than ever, and at the same time, we're taking more antidepressants than ever.

00:06:57.160 And if antidepressants are actually working, then you should see that trend going in the opposite direction.

00:07:03.520 But it's not.

00:07:05.580 Now, these prescriptions have continued even after one of the most prominent medical journals on the planet admitted that actually doctors no longer think that low serotonin levels are linked to depression.

00:07:15.400 In other words, if these drugs actually work, then no one can really explain why.

00:07:21.720 Quoting from the journal Molecular Psychiatry,

00:07:24.020 our comprehensive review of the major strands of research on serotonin show there is no convincing evidence that depression is associated with or caused by lower serotonin concentrations or activity.

00:07:34.440 Most studies found no evidence of reduced serotonin activity in people with depression compared to people without.

00:07:38.900 This review suggests that the huge research effort based on the serotonin hypothesis has not produced convincing evidence of a biochemical basis to depression.

00:07:48.160 This review suggests that the huge research effort based on the serotonin hypothesis has not produced convincing evidence of a biochemical basis to depression.

00:08:00.900 This was a paper published in the summer of 2022 by one of the top journals in the entire field of medicine.

00:08:07.740 And yet, to this day, if you suggest that depression is not related to a chemical imbalance, if you suggest that it is not biochemical, which is what that study showed, that it's not biochemical, then you will still be dogpiled for doing so.

00:08:28.120 I mean, it's been impossible to have anything approaching an honest conversation about depression and SSRIs in this country, because many of the people on these drugs will just lash out with blind rage if you even suggest that depression might have causes that go deeper than chemical imbalances.

00:08:46.740 If you try to talk about depression is, if you try to talk about depression, if you try to talk about depression, if you try to talk about it with any depth or nuance at all, you're screamed out of the room by drug addicts who don't know they're drug addicts.

00:09:00.740 But the truth is that none of the support for SSRIs is based on reality.

00:09:06.400 The whole class of drugs has been peddled to tens of millions of people based on complete fabrications, based on bad studies, and based on bunk theories.

00:09:18.620 It is not an overstatement to say this is one of the great medical scandals of our time.

00:09:23.220 What's changing now is that finally someone in a position of authority is willing to investigate these drugs, and many other drugs like them.

00:09:32.020 A few days ago, via executive order of the Trump administration, established something called the Make America Healthy Again Commission, or MAHA, and MAHA, I guess maybe is how you pronounce it.

00:09:41.560 And it'll be headed by RFK Jr., and the purpose of the commission, according to the White House, is to determine why Americans have shorter life expectancies than people living in other nations, as well as higher rates of chronic diseases like cancer and asthma.

00:09:54.660 And part of this effort means assessing the, quote, prevalence of and threat posed by the prescription of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, stimulants, and weight loss drugs.

00:10:05.840 Watch.

00:10:06.160 Last Thursday, President Trump signed an executive order to establish the MAHA Commission to study what has caused the precipitous decline in American health over the past two generations.

00:10:21.140 So we will convene representatives of all viewpoints to study the causes for the drastic rise in chronic disease.

00:10:29.200 Some of the possible factors we will investigate were formerly taboo or insufficiently scrutinized, a childhood vaccine schedule, electromagnetic radiation, glyphosate, other pesticides, ultra-processed foods, artificial food allotives, SSRI and other psychiatric drugs, PFAs, PFOAs, microplastics.

00:10:57.500 Nothing is going to be off limits.

00:10:59.980 As of right now, as you heard, RFK's commission is going to be focused on gathering data.

00:11:04.580 You know, they're not banning anything outright.

00:11:06.340 They're not punishing doctors for prescribing anything.

00:11:09.180 Instead, they're doing what the government should have done several decades ago.

00:11:12.600 They're looking at the existing evidence and determining whether it's valid or not.

00:11:16.880 They're not going to simply accept clinical trials without looking closely at them.

00:11:21.080 They're going to see whether it makes sense to keep prescribing these drugs to so many Americans, particularly young people.

00:11:26.440 Now, you have to wonder what kind of person would object to a fact-finding effort like this.

00:11:32.640 After all, if SSRIs and other drugs that he mentioned actually work as advertised, then the extra scrutiny wouldn't be a problem at all.

00:11:39.720 But RFK Jr. has received a lot of pushback because of this.

00:11:44.700 Newsweek, for example, recently took aim at RFK's claim that antidepressants can be more addictive than heroin.

00:11:49.060 They cited a Stanford professor saying, quote,

00:11:52.220 Antidepressants and heroin are in different universes when it comes to addiction risk.

00:11:56.040 In my 35 years in the addiction field, I've met only two or three people who thought they were addicted to antidepressants versus thousands who were addicted to heroin and other opioids.

00:12:06.380 Did you notice the qualifier there?

00:12:07.880 I've met only two or three people who thought they were addicted to antidepressants.

00:12:14.940 So one thing we could take away from that is that people who take these drugs tend to be in a lot of denial.

00:12:22.860 And I think the very idea that you could become addicted to them doesn't occur to a lot of the people taking these drugs.

00:12:29.040 They don't even think that that's a thing that can happen.

00:12:31.180 And so when they have this compulsion to keep taking the antidepressant, they don't see it as an addiction.

00:12:38.900 And according to this addiction specialist, because they don't see it as an addiction, it isn't one.

00:12:45.040 I mean, this is the kind of quote unquote science that's behind so much of the psychiatric field. 0.66

00:12:51.160 And it's what has propelled millions of people to end up on these drugs is this kind of totally bunk, ridiculous nonsense that they call science.

00:13:04.560 So we're meant to conclude that RFK is a conspiracy theorist for even suggesting that SSRIs can cause dependency.

00:13:10.480 But just a few years ago, that was not a conspiracy theory at all.

00:13:12.760 It was settled science.

00:13:14.680 In 2018, the New York Times published an article titled,

00:13:17.020 Many People Taking Antidepressants Discover They Cannot Quit.

00:13:19.640 Here's some of the relevant findings.

00:13:22.400 Quote, in New Zealand, where prescriptions are at historic highs,

00:13:24.640 a survey of long-term users found that withdrawal was the most common complaint cited by three-quarters of long-time users.

00:13:30.640 In a recent survey of 250 long-term users of psychiatric drugs, most commonly antidepressants,

00:13:36.540 about half who wound down their prescriptions rated the withdrawal as severe.

00:13:41.460 Nearly half who tried to quit could not do so because of these symptoms.

00:13:44.800 In another study of 180 long-time antidepressant users,

00:13:47.740 withdrawal symptoms were reported by more than 130.

00:13:50.680 Almost half said they felt addicted to antidepressants.

00:13:53.620 Close quote.

00:13:54.760 Now, if you compare those numbers to the percentage of heroin users who become addicted within a month of using the drug,

00:14:01.140 you'll find that RFK actually has a point.

00:14:04.120 By one estimate, up to 38% of new heroin users become dependent within a year,

00:14:09.200 which is a lot, obviously.

00:14:10.360 But it's less than the number of antidepressant users who reported feeling severe withdrawal symptoms.

00:14:17.840 And this is why RFK's commission is an important step.

00:14:20.420 It's clear that we have a lot of evidence that antidepressants are causing far more harm than most people realize.

00:14:25.240 But they're not seeing the evidence because it's being suppressed.

00:14:30.320 And a transparent commission could solve that problem.

00:14:33.620 It can also address this objection, which was just published by the left-wing outlet Mother Jones.

00:14:39.180 Quote,

00:14:39.400 Now, this is another common refrain you hear from the defenders, the apologists for SSRIs. 0.98

00:15:00.880 They say that most school shooters were not taking SSRIs.

00:15:04.640 And as we've previously discussed, there are two major problems with that line.

00:15:08.140 First of all, we don't actually know what drugs a school shooter was taking unless the family discloses it.

00:15:13.720 The police and hospitals aren't going to tell anyone, citing privacy laws.

00:15:17.540 And in pretty much no case does the family definitely state that the shooter wasn't taking certain kinds of medication.

00:15:25.300 Secondly, a lot of mass shootings are really gang violence.

00:15:28.720 And those incidents get lumped in with school shootings.

00:15:30.980 So they flood the data set and make it hard to determine whether SSRIs are influencing a certain kind of shooting.

00:15:36.680 Now, anecdotally, of course, you'll find plenty of evidence that SSRIs might be linked to school shootings from Columbine to Northern Illinois University to the Navy Yard to the movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, to the Black Church in Charleston, to the old National Bank in Kentucky.

00:15:50.200 The shooters were all confirmed to be on antidepressants.

00:15:52.900 In response to these shootings, you might say that correlation doesn't prove causation.

00:15:57.380 After all, these shooters were taking SSRIs because they were unstable.

00:16:01.000 It doesn't necessarily prove that SSRIs made their condition worse.

00:16:04.360 And that's true.

00:16:05.040 But there is additional affirmative evidence to believe that SSRIs are, in fact, making these shooters' condition worse.

00:16:10.580 For one thing, there's the FDGA black box label on these drugs, which indicates that they can increase the risk of suicidal thinking and behavior.

00:16:18.740 And there's this.

00:16:20.160 A few years ago, researchers writing in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine found that the antidepressants doubled the risk of suicidality and violence when they were given to healthy people with no mental health disorders.

00:16:30.940 And this is a direct quote from the journal.

00:16:33.640 Antidepressants double the occurrence of events in adult healthy volunteers that can lead to suicide and violence.

00:16:38.940 Now, how is that possible?

00:16:43.220 How can a drug make someone violent and suicidal?

00:16:47.260 How can a drug put violent, suicidal thoughts in a person's head?

00:16:52.460 How does that work?

00:16:53.820 How does it work?

00:16:55.660 Well, the truth is, we have no idea.

00:16:59.060 The people prescribing the drugs have no idea.

00:17:02.340 The people making the drugs have no idea.

00:17:05.140 We have no clue why these drugs supposedly work in the first place, if they actually do work.

00:17:12.520 And we have no idea why they might turn normal people into violent maniacs.

00:17:17.280 But it's obviously a very concerning finding.

00:17:20.520 Especially given how much doctors are overprescribing these drugs to any patient who claims to be depressed.

00:17:25.100 It is very, very, very easy to get an antidepressant drug.

00:17:29.320 This is not a difficult thing to do.

00:17:30.980 And the whole diagnostic process relies entirely on self-report.

00:17:39.880 It is just you telling the doctor how you feel and what's going on with you.

00:17:44.840 Okay?

00:17:45.240 It's why it's not like diagnosing a real physical illness.

00:17:49.960 Where they can run tests and they can look at your body and they can detect that there are lesions,

00:17:55.040 there are tumors, there are things going wrong in the body.

00:17:59.280 But with these psychiatric illnesses, these alleged psychiatric illnesses, none of that exists.

00:18:05.940 They're not doing brain scans.

00:18:07.160 They're not looking at anything.

00:18:08.380 It's just based on what you're telling them.

00:18:12.060 Which means that anybody who wants to get any psychiatric drug can get it.

00:18:19.920 Doctors would rather prescribe those drugs than tell patients the truth about their depression and how to deal with it.

00:18:25.580 You know, I can say that in my personal life, and this is anecdotal, but it's all anecdotal.

00:18:33.900 Okay?

00:18:34.140 Everything is based on anecdotes.

00:18:36.960 The diagnostic criteria is based on anecdotes.

00:18:40.820 Everything is just anecdotes.

00:18:42.320 It's just people telling stories about what's going on with them.

00:18:45.800 People, they know that's what all this is.

00:18:47.360 So, I'll say that in my case, I've known many people who take antidepressants.

00:18:52.280 And in almost every case, there are glaringly obvious things in their lives that would cause any normal person to be depressed.

00:19:02.120 In almost every case, I can look at their life and say, well, yeah, I'd be kind of depressed too if I had this going on.

00:19:08.220 So, depression is actually a totally rational response to their circumstance.

00:19:17.420 But instead of making lifestyle changes or dealing with the underlying trauma, they're given drugs that effectively numb their brain.

00:19:26.200 They don't make them feel better.

00:19:27.940 It just numbs them.

00:19:29.180 So, they don't feel the feeling anymore.

00:19:31.560 But the thing that's causing the feeling is not being addressed.

00:19:35.400 And it will never be addressed if you don't have the feeling that calls attention to the underlying problem.

00:19:43.220 So, it's just like giving someone a painkiller to make it hurt less when they put their hand on a hot stove.

00:19:47.900 The stove is still burning them.

00:19:49.600 The pain from the stove is not the problem, right?

00:19:52.820 When you put your hand on a hot stove and it hurts, the hurting is not the problem.

00:19:57.500 That's actually good.

00:19:59.060 That means that your nervous system is working like it's supposed to.

00:20:02.680 The pain is good.

00:20:03.680 It's a good thing because it's alerting you to the fact that your hand is on a stove.

00:20:09.740 So, you have to take your hand off the stove.

00:20:12.900 That's the solution.

00:20:16.240 So, the reason the medical establishment and Democrats are panicking over RFK's commission is simple.

00:20:21.700 The moment people realize that they have agency, when they realize that they can take their hand off the stove,

00:20:27.820 they become a lot harder to control.

00:20:30.580 They also become a lot harder to monetize.

00:20:34.060 For big pharma and corporate media outlets that sell advertising space to big pharma,

00:20:38.560 the implications are obviously pretty dire.

00:20:40.500 But for Americans hoping to reverse this country's long-standing public health decline

00:20:44.480 after a generation of junk science and fake clinical trials,

00:20:48.560 it's a change that's long overdue.

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00:22:12.420 Daily Wire reports,

00:22:13.420 President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Tuesday from Mar-a-Lago

00:22:16.220 that's focused on expanding access to IVF, in vitro fertilization.

00:22:21.080 Trump's executive order calls for policy recommendations to make it easier for families to access IVF

00:22:26.560 and to aggressively reduce out-of-pocket and health plan costs for such treatments,

00:22:30.220 White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt said on Tuesday,

00:22:33.560 according to the American Society for Reproductive Medicine,

00:22:35.880 one cycle of IVF in the United States costs around $15,000.

00:22:40.220 The order states, within 90 days of the date of this order,

00:22:42.980 the assistant to the president for domestic policy shall submit to the president

00:22:45.940 a list of policy recommendations on protecting IVF access

00:22:48.560 and aggressively reducing out-of-pocket and health plan costs for IVF.

00:22:52.540 The order says,

00:22:56.380 Today, many hopeful couples dream of starting a family,

00:22:58.840 but as many as one in seven are unable to conceive a child.

00:23:01.740 Despite their hopes and efforts,

00:23:03.400 infertility struggles can make conception difficult, 0.57

00:23:05.660 turning what should be a joyful experience into an emotional and financial struggle.

00:23:09.000 My administration recognizes the importance of family formation,

00:23:12.940 and as a nation, our public policy must make it easier

00:23:16.860 for loving and longing mothers and fathers to have children.

00:23:21.000 Okay.

00:23:22.160 Well, as you know, I've been a big fan of most of what Trump has done in his second term.

00:23:27.040 In fact, I think his second term in office is off to the best start of any president in modern history,

00:23:33.520 easily the best in modern history by a long shot.

00:23:37.480 But I have to call it as I see it, and be honest with you always,

00:23:40.780 you know, I got to call the shots as I see them.

00:23:42.420 So, I have to say that I strongly, strongly, strongly disagree with this move.

00:23:50.900 Now, yeah, he's following through on a campaign promise that he made during the campaign.

00:23:56.220 So, it's like, I can't act like I'm shocked or betrayed by it.

00:23:59.580 He said he would do this, and he's doing it.

00:24:03.020 But I think it's the wrong thing.

00:24:05.220 I think it's very wrong.

00:24:06.220 Human life is either a sacred thing, or it isn't, right?

00:24:17.820 And if it isn't, then, well, nothing matters.

00:24:23.400 I mean, actually, nothing matters if human life isn't sacred.

00:24:27.280 Your most important issue, whatever you care the most about, whatever it happens to be, doesn't matter.

00:24:32.820 Okay, so if your most important issue is gun rights,

00:24:37.500 well, gun rights only matter because human life is sacred.

00:24:41.220 If it isn't, then your ability to protect yourself with a firearm is irrelevant.

00:24:46.380 Who cares if you're able to defend yourself or not?

00:24:48.320 Who cares if you can defend your family?

00:24:49.920 Why does that matter?

00:24:51.520 Your life doesn't matter.

00:24:52.580 Your family's life doesn't matter.

00:24:55.620 You know?

00:24:58.160 Immigration, you know, why does protecting the border matter? 0.56

00:25:00.780 Well, it matters because our national sovereignty matters.

00:25:03.360 Why does our national sovereignty matter?

00:25:04.620 Well, because we as Americans deserve to live in a country with borders and safe neighborhoods

00:25:09.600 and a distinct culture and national identity.

00:25:13.140 But in other words, America's borders matter because Americans matter, right?

00:25:20.160 If there were no people in this country, then it wouldn't matter what happened.

00:25:23.820 There's no people here.

00:25:24.560 So, you know, it goes back to the sanctity of human life.

00:25:31.960 If human life is not sacred, then none of this stuff matters.

00:25:36.740 If human life is sacred, though, then we have to ask ourselves whether this sacred thing,

00:25:43.800 which is life, should be created in a petri dish outside of its natural context

00:25:49.740 and then stored in a freezer like a hunk of ground beef, you know,

00:25:54.880 that you're saving for next week to make chili and then destroyed if it isn't used.

00:26:01.280 Like, is that what we should do with sacred life?

00:26:09.740 Store it in a freezer and then destroy it.

00:26:17.920 And IVF, make no mistake about it, destroys millions of human lives.

00:26:23.900 Millions.

00:26:24.460 Now, we don't know the exact number.

00:26:27.020 There's no way to know for sure.

00:26:28.040 But we do know approximately how many IVF births there are per year.

00:26:33.180 And we know approximately how many embryos are created per birth.

00:26:37.320 And we can extrapolate that hundreds of thousands of extra embryos are frozen or discarded every single year,

00:26:45.960 meaning that millions are discarded in the course of just a few years.

00:26:48.840 So, I want you to imagine something for a moment.

00:26:56.380 Imagine if somebody wanted a dog. 0.80

00:26:59.800 So, they went to a breeder who then bred a litter of puppies for the person to choose from.

00:27:09.360 And I know people do go to breeders, of course.

00:27:11.860 But now imagine, right, that the unused puppies, and that's what they would be called, unused, the extra puppies, right?

00:27:22.740 Now imagine that they're all just killed and discarded.

00:27:27.720 The person chooses the one they want.

00:27:30.320 And these are newborn puppies.

00:27:32.160 I want that one.

00:27:33.820 And all the rest are just taken out and drowned.

00:27:36.640 And then the breeder will go and make more puppies for the next person who wants a puppy.

00:27:42.300 And now imagine that this plays out thousands of times a year.

00:27:46.360 So that many thousands of puppies are created and then destroyed every year.

00:27:53.040 Now, I think everybody would agree that that kind of system would be inhumane.

00:28:00.520 Because dog life is just too valuable to be treated that way.

00:28:06.640 Now, you know, we're talking about newborn puppies here.

00:28:09.560 What kind of consciousness does a newborn puppy even have?

00:28:12.580 Do they have any sort of self-awareness?

00:28:16.000 I mean, it's really debatable whether full-grown dogs have self-awareness, at least self-awareness in the way that people do.

00:28:22.840 A newborn puppy almost certainly has none.

00:28:25.300 And, you know, if you don't have self-awareness, then you can't really experience pain.

00:28:30.240 I mean, you could have a nervous system, and so you could have all the kind of hardware in place for pain.

00:28:36.920 But if you don't have self-awareness, you are not experiencing it because there's no you, really.

00:28:42.020 If there's nothing that is conscious of the pain, then the pain is not being experienced.

00:28:48.000 The pain is happening in a physical sense, but it's not being experienced because there's no conscious sort of entity there to experience it.

00:28:55.720 And so a newborn puppy, I would seriously doubt, has any real self-awareness at all.

00:29:02.240 And yet, in spite of that, we would all agree that intentionally creating and then destroying thousands of puppies every year systematically

00:29:12.240 is a horrifying waste and degradation of the lives of those animals, regardless of how sentient or conscious they may or may not be.

00:29:21.920 So if human life, if we would say that about the lives of dogs, I mean, is human life less valuable than the life of a dog?

00:29:36.540 Is it like infinitely less valuable?

00:29:39.360 Because that's how we treat it.

00:29:42.940 And if we could see this kind of system as clearly barbaric when used on dogs, how can we not say the same when it's used for people?

00:29:51.920 You know, there's simply no question, biologically, that a human embryo is number one human.

00:29:59.380 It's a human embryo.

00:30:02.080 It was created by a human.

00:30:04.200 Well, it was created in a lab, but it was created, it was even so created by a human.

00:30:12.500 And it's a human embryo.

00:30:14.340 So we know that.

00:30:17.640 Is it a living human?

00:30:19.200 Well, I mean, there are only really three states of being that anything can be, right?

00:30:28.380 Anything that you point to in the physical universe, it seems to me, can broadly fit into one of three categories.

00:30:37.680 And that is alive, dead, or inanimate.

00:30:45.480 Okay?

00:30:46.700 Well, a human embryo is not dead, not yet anyway.

00:30:49.500 And it's not an inanimate object like a table or a rock.

00:30:56.380 I think everyone can understand that a human embryo being stored in a freezer is not, it's different than like this, the table that I'm sitting at, the desk I'm sitting at.

00:31:05.300 Because this desk will only ever be a desk.

00:31:10.460 It's not like if it sits here for another 10 years, it's going to suddenly spring into a living creature.

00:31:15.480 It'll decay and will be no more eventually, but it's never going to change fundamentally into anything that it isn't.

00:31:29.180 So a human embryo is alive.

00:31:32.440 You know, if it's not dead and if it's not an inanimate object, which it isn't, it's not either of those things, obviously.

00:31:37.140 The only thing left is to be living.

00:31:38.920 That's the only other kind of thing you can be.

00:31:41.780 Right?

00:31:43.540 So we have a living human.

00:31:45.720 This is a human life.

00:31:47.720 There's nothing else it can be.

00:31:50.620 Creating human life in a laboratory and then destroying it, if it isn't used, is barbaric.

00:31:58.280 It is just wrong.

00:32:00.520 And by the way, even if the human embryo isn't a full growth, even if I were to agree,

00:32:05.960 and I've made this point plenty of times in the past,

00:32:08.040 but if I were to agree that the human embryo is not a full human being,

00:32:16.860 if I were to agree that the human embryo is a potential human but is not actually a human,

00:32:21.880 and I don't agree with that, just to be clear.

00:32:23.620 I absolutely do not agree with that.

00:32:26.360 A human embryo is a human.

00:32:29.480 But I'm saying that even if I did agree with that,

00:32:31.980 I would still say that this potential human life has immense value.

00:32:41.880 Even being a human life means you have infinite value.

00:32:46.000 And I would argue that being a potential human life also gives you, in effect, infinite value.

00:32:51.740 I mean, what if somebody, imagine, just for another analogy,

00:32:54.420 imagine that somebody created an AI system or something along those lines,

00:33:01.800 and let's say that we knew that with a few more tweaks, in a few months,

00:33:06.800 this AI system will be fully conscious.

00:33:10.940 It'll be a sentient being in a few months.

00:33:14.880 So imagine we get to the point where we are a few months away from having AI,

00:33:19.800 having robots, and so forth, that are fully conscious.

00:33:24.540 Well, that piece of technology that's a few months away from having sentience,

00:33:30.280 from being a conscious being,

00:33:31.640 would be the most valuable piece of technology on the planet.

00:33:36.300 I mean, it would be worth trillions of dollars.

00:33:39.640 And certainly everyone would agree that destroying it would be an insane thing to do.

00:33:50.580 Well, maybe that's a bad analogy, because in that case,

00:33:53.180 I think allowing AI to become fully conscious is not a good idea,

00:33:57.700 so maybe you would destroy it.

00:33:58.500 But the point is that this, one way or another,

00:34:02.200 this would be a very valuable piece of technology.

00:34:05.200 Even though it's not conscious now, but we know that it will be soon.

00:34:11.480 When you look at a human embryo, even again,

00:34:13.320 even if you're of the mindset that this is just a potential human,

00:34:19.560 by your logic, in the span of a few months,

00:34:23.940 it would be a full human.

00:34:26.700 So it would still have immense value.

00:34:29.480 And just throwing it away is, I don't know what else to call it, but barbaric.

00:34:37.280 The other thing I'll mention briefly, just, you know,

00:34:40.140 you heard it there in the executive order that,

00:34:42.360 well, there are people who want to be parents,

00:34:45.680 and they're not able to conceive naturally.

00:34:47.920 And so they're longing to be parents.

00:34:50.620 And, you know, what's our answer for them?

00:34:53.460 And that's kind of the argument for it.

00:34:55.140 The argument against all of this is just that, that, well, yeah, you know,

00:35:00.180 maybe that's true.

00:35:01.080 Maybe there are some ethical concerns here with creating human beings

00:35:04.520 and then throwing them away.

00:35:05.760 But I really want to be a parent.

00:35:09.280 Well, what I'll say to that, number one, is that

00:35:10.900 I don't discount your desire to be a parent.

00:35:15.740 And if you're not able to conceive naturally,

00:35:18.320 I imagine that that's, I totally don't doubt that that's a source of great pain.

00:35:27.120 But your desire for something does not override these serious moral problems,

00:35:37.980 moral and ethical problems with IVF.

00:35:40.380 In fact, your desire is not a moral argument at all.

00:35:47.020 We're talking about morality.

00:35:48.680 We're talking about ethics.

00:35:49.680 We're talking about the value of human life.

00:35:53.160 And so your desire, no matter how strong it is, is, I'm sorry, irrelevant.

00:35:58.900 It's just, it's not irrelevant to you.

00:36:01.640 I understand that.

00:36:02.520 I sympathize with it.

00:36:04.380 Okay?

00:36:04.540 It's not emotionally irrelevant, but it's irrelevant to the argument.

00:36:07.180 Because the argument is like, are these human beings and is it ethical

00:36:11.060 to create a human being in a laboratory and then discard him like it's garbage?

00:36:19.500 And the fact that, well, yeah, but I really want to, that's just, that's not an argument.

00:36:25.740 That doesn't address any of the concerns.

00:36:29.500 Right?

00:36:29.660 And, and, uh, number two, this is why, like, adoption, okay?

00:36:38.780 This is why adoption agencies exist.

00:36:41.540 There, there are children who are born and, um, have already been conceived and have already

00:36:49.220 been birthed and who need families.

00:36:52.120 And so if you're in a position where you deeply desire to be a parent and you're not able to

00:36:59.000 conceive, well, what should you do?

00:37:01.120 You should adopt is what you should do.

00:37:03.980 Rather than trying to make a child in a laboratory, uh, there's, there are children right now who,

00:37:12.460 who you should go and adopt.

00:37:13.640 That's the, uh, that's the recourse that I would suggest.

00:37:21.380 All right.

00:37:22.040 Daily Wire has this actress, Julianne Moore claims that the Trump administration banned 1.00

00:37:25.920 a children's book that she wrote from schools run by the department of defense, but a representative

00:37:30.160 from the organization responded by saying that it's one of several books currently under

00:37:33.260 review and no permanent changes have been made yet.

00:37:35.860 The celebrity wrote a lengthy Instagram post about her book, freckle faced strawberry and

00:37:40.940 how she believes it was removed from schools without good cause.

00:37:43.640 The story follows a young girl who tries to get rid of her freckles before learning to

00:37:47.360 accept herself and her differences.

00:37:49.700 Moore said it was a great shock for her to learn that her book was banned.

00:37:53.880 Quote, freckle faced strawberries, a semi autobiographical story about a seven-year-old

00:37:57.160 girl who dislikes her freckles, but eventually learns to live with them when she realizes that 0.99

00:38:00.940 she's different, just like everybody else.

00:38:02.980 It's a book I wrote for my children and blah, blah, blah.

00:38:05.820 I particularly stunned because I'm a proud graduate of Frankfurt American high school, a

00:38:09.540 DOD school that once operated in Frankfurt, Germany, a group of the father who's a

00:38:13.060 Vietnam veteran, spent his career in the U.S. Army, and she's upset that her book is banned.

00:38:19.720 There's only one reason I'm reading this story.

00:38:21.460 There's one reason I like this story.

00:38:23.920 I like it because it shows you just how utterly vacuous the book banning narrative is on the

00:38:28.800 left.

00:38:29.060 They go around screaming about book bans, even though no book bans have actually been put

00:38:34.200 in place anywhere in the country.

00:38:36.000 It's a total figment of their imagination, completely made up.

00:38:40.120 And the book bans that we hear about are all situations like this.

00:38:45.620 You know, has Julianne Moore's book been banned from these DOD schools?

00:38:49.780 No, they're not banned.

00:38:52.040 What's happened is they're conducting a review to decide which books they want to have available

00:38:56.040 in their school classrooms and in their libraries.

00:38:58.660 And maybe her book about freckles or whatever makes the cut.

00:39:02.420 Maybe it doesn't.

00:39:03.720 Either way, it's not being banned.

00:39:06.280 OK, do you know how many books are published across the world every single year?

00:39:10.080 It's something like two million books.

00:39:12.520 And so how many total published books exist in the world today?

00:39:17.840 I have no idea, but it's certainly tens, if not hundreds of millions.

00:39:22.420 How many of those books are going to be put in an elementary school library?

00:39:27.460 You take any one single elementary school library, whether it's a DOD school or not.

00:39:32.620 How many of the tens of millions of books in the world are going to be in that library?

00:39:37.580 Like a few dozen, maybe.

00:39:40.780 So does that mean that every other book, all of the many tens of millions of books that aren't

00:39:45.880 in the library have been banned?

00:39:49.100 If so, then that means that for as long as schools have existed, tens of millions of books

00:39:55.460 have been victims of bans.

00:39:58.380 That means, by the way, that I am the victim of book bans.

00:40:01.420 I have four published books, including a children's book.

00:40:04.160 The vast majority of schools on earth, it'll shock you to learn, do not carry any of my books,

00:40:10.100 even though I am the most revered and celebrated and acclaimed children's author in the world,

00:40:15.580 certainly living today, probably of all time.

00:40:17.860 There are very few elementary schools, if any, that carry my book.

00:40:23.440 So in other words, I guess I'm effectively, you know, a Holocaust survivor.

00:40:27.980 I'm a victim of Nazi Germany.

00:40:30.160 If you listen to the leftists, apparently, this is Nazi Germany stuff, that they're not

00:40:36.180 carrying Johnny the Walrus.

00:40:37.920 The fact that your child's elementary school doesn't carry Johnny the Walrus means that

00:40:41.780 I have been banned, that they have essentially taken my books and thrown them in a giant pile

00:40:47.480 and burned them.

00:40:49.000 Not carrying my book is really no different.

00:40:50.740 It's no different.

00:40:52.260 A school not carrying my book, Johnny the Walrus, is no different than the government going into

00:40:59.300 people's houses and confiscating the book and shooting them in the head for having it and 0.55

00:41:04.320 then throwing all of my books into the sea and me along with them.

00:41:08.880 It's all, it's the same thing.

00:41:10.140 It's the same exact thing.

00:41:11.460 I mean, that's how this works, right?

00:41:13.860 So the whole book ban narrative is just total, absolute nonsense.

00:41:18.600 And it never ends.

00:41:21.380 It just continues.

00:41:22.500 They never stop.

00:41:23.980 That's the thing with the left.

00:41:24.880 They never stop.

00:41:26.160 They continue on.

00:41:27.320 The book bans, they don't exist.

00:41:30.040 It's not real.

00:41:31.340 It's not happening.

00:41:32.220 It's not a thing.

00:41:34.240 What we're being told is that every school in the country needs to carry every book that's

00:41:38.820 ever been written.

00:41:40.180 Because if they don't, if there's any books that aren't in there, then it's a ban.

00:41:43.840 It's a book ban.

00:41:44.780 Every school library needs to be like the size of Dallas Cowboys Stadium so that it can store

00:41:50.720 every book that has ever been written.

00:41:53.240 If not, we're in Nazi Germany.

00:41:55.960 Free speech has been destroyed.

00:41:57.160 And this goes for bookstores, too.

00:41:59.660 I mean, did you know that there are millions of books that Barnes & Noble doesn't carry?

00:42:06.460 Millions.

00:42:07.560 Actually, Barnes & Noble doesn't carry almost all books.

00:42:13.040 There are almost no books that Barnes & Noble carries.

00:42:18.280 Basically, every book ever written, with rare exception, is not available at Barnes & Noble,

00:42:22.220 which means that they have banned almost every book.

00:42:25.860 If you call Barnes & Noble and say, hey, do you have this book?

00:42:28.000 And they say no, well, that means they banned the book.

00:42:32.040 That's what it means.

00:42:33.700 That's how this works.

00:42:35.060 That's what the left is saying.

00:42:36.560 It makes a lot of sense.

00:42:37.580 Let's get to the comment section.

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00:43:52.080 Okay, a few comments here.

00:43:53.740 Madam, a pilot, I agree that the CRJ-900 landed extremely hard.

00:43:58.080 It looks like the runway had a lot of windblown snow on it.

00:44:00.380 Apparently, crosswind gusts were up to 40 miles an hour.

00:44:02.320 It was very sunny, which makes, judging visibility visually, how high you are above the ground very difficult.

00:44:08.080 The aircraft was almost certainly being hand-flown at this point in the flight, and likely they were flying a visual approach,

00:44:12.980 as opposed to a navigation-assisted approach like an NRAV or ILS approach.

00:44:18.920 So this was probably pilot error.

00:44:20.320 Now, there's still really no excuse because these airlines are equipped with radar altimeters, which quite literally yell your altitude as you come in for landings.

00:44:29.140 That's my two cents.

00:44:32.460 And then, and it turns out they were flying the ILS approach, probably still hand-flying short final.

00:44:38.060 Yeah, this lines up with what other pilots have told me.

00:44:42.660 So I've seen this a lot.

00:44:43.940 I mean, it seems pretty clear that, I mean, I've talked to several pilots, I've heard from several pilots,

00:44:53.640 who just look at the video of the plane landing and say, yeah, there's clear mistakes made there.

00:44:59.760 Were there other things that factored into the crash?

00:45:03.300 Maybe, but, so this does appear to be pilot error.

00:45:06.220 I've also heard from some sources in the airline industry, some interesting information about, allegedly, about the pilot who was landing the plane.

00:45:24.340 I don't know if the information is true, so I can't share it.

00:45:27.420 I'm trying to vet it.

00:45:28.680 Some of these kind of rumors are circulating right now on social media.

00:45:32.660 So maybe we'll have more about that soon.

00:45:34.500 But, you know, I, all I'll say is what I said yesterday, what I've been saying now for forever, that, you know, we can look and we can see that for a long time, air travel was extremely safe.

00:45:53.560 It was like almost magically safe, you know, or it seemed almost magical, at least to the passengers.

00:46:03.280 That it could be this safe.

00:46:04.760 I mean, we went years and years and years and years without any major incident, without any major accident.

00:46:11.420 And it was just incredible.

00:46:13.560 You know, for a long time, you could rightly say that the safest place you could be anywhere is on a plane being flown by a major airline.

00:46:21.600 And that was the case for a long time.

00:46:23.360 And then the airline industry started adopting DEI.

00:46:30.780 And then after that, we started seeing a lot of close calls and then we started seeing accidents.

00:46:37.780 And now we have two major airline accidents in the span of a month.

00:46:44.120 So we'll be told that this is all a coincidence, that there's no correlation, that there's rather no causation behind this correlation.

00:46:52.560 But I just find that very hard to believe.

00:46:56.380 I'm a pilot and my analysis is that the plane is upside down and that's bad.

00:47:02.320 That's fascinating.

00:47:05.180 This is why we need to trust the experts.

00:47:06.940 Because I wasn't sure.

00:47:07.860 You know, when I first saw the video, that's the thing.

00:47:09.840 When I first saw the video of the plane upside down, I said, okay, what's the problem here?

00:47:14.020 I don't know.

00:47:14.340 Is it not supposed to be like that?

00:47:16.820 And then, yeah, I've got, I've also heard from a few sources that have confirmed, I had to confirm this, but a few sources have confirmed to me this comment and others have said, yeah, actually, typically what you want is for the plane to land right side up so that you're not hanging upside down.

00:47:32.300 So that was, that was interesting.

00:47:36.760 One of my cousins had a no child wedding.

00:47:39.060 For a Latino couple to have that is insane. 1.00

00:47:41.200 My family decided not to go since we have two younger children.

00:47:43.620 Turned out a lot of people ignored the no child part of the invitation.

00:47:46.540 We turned out looking like the bad guys for not showing up. 0.95

00:47:50.080 Ridiculous. 0.91

00:47:50.600 Well, you were right. 0.95

00:47:51.380 I mean, you're not the bad guys.

00:47:52.640 And I would not go to a wedding where my kids were not invited.

00:47:57.680 I mean, that's just, I wouldn't do it.

00:48:00.520 And because I reject it in principle.

00:48:04.660 And also you're just putting more burdens on your guests, which I wish that people, you know, if you're getting married, you want to have a big day, you want to have a big celebration.

00:48:13.720 I get it.

00:48:14.460 I don't begrudge that at all.

00:48:16.920 But also, like, try to make it a little bit easier on the guests.

00:48:25.120 Okay, your guests are people too, and they have lives.

00:48:27.560 And so you should at least take into consideration the burden that you're placing on your guests.

00:48:33.320 And when you tell your guests they can't bring their kids.

00:48:36.780 Well, all you're doing is, that's another hurdle.

00:48:40.000 On top of just, like, in principle, I think that's wrong.

00:48:43.500 Also, you're creating another hurdle for the guests.

00:48:46.420 And now they have to go out and hire child care, which is not going to be cheap.

00:48:51.040 Okay, because we're talking about a ceremony, a wedding.

00:48:53.180 This could be, especially if they have to drive to it, if they have to travel to it also.

00:48:57.400 I mean, we could be talking about many hours, if not days, where they have to hire child care.

00:49:02.960 And they're paying out of pocket for that.

00:49:04.640 So, that's reason enough to not have a child-free wedding.

00:49:12.780 You know, that's why you also, it's like, same thing for, like, destination weddings.

00:49:17.340 Same deal.

00:49:18.180 Now, look, if you decide you want to have a destination wedding, and you're not really, and it's like, you're not really inviting anyone to it.

00:49:23.640 Except your close, immediate family, and they all want to go to this trip.

00:49:27.320 Then, you know, that could be fine.

00:49:28.600 But, you know, to say, I'm going to go get married in, you know, the Bahamas or something, and then send out 500 invitations, expecting all these people to go on a vacation, to take vacation time for your wedding is just nuts.

00:49:46.680 It's nuts. 0.99

00:49:49.040 The kid wedding argument is crap, Matt. 1.00

00:49:51.220 If they were told beforehand not to bring their kid, and they did anyway, the parents are horrible people. 1.00

00:49:55.580 I'm pretty sure you wouldn't appreciate someone bringing their pet into your house, and I don't want to hear the BS argument about children not being pets.

00:50:02.860 That was the rule the couple who paid for the weddings had, and if the relative or loved one didn't like it, then by default they were not invited either.

00:50:10.560 The option for them to bring their kids was not on the table.

00:50:13.060 They were invited to a wedding, not compelled to go.

00:50:15.620 You almost had it right when you made your Thanksgiving comparison.

00:50:18.680 If the same guy who wants to bring his Mastiff into your house to take a dump and invited you over for a vegan Thanksgiving, nobody's forcing you to go. 0.97

00:50:27.220 If you do decide to go, then shut up and eat the tofu turkey. 0.99

00:50:30.540 Okay. 0.99

00:50:32.160 Yeah, but children aren't pets. 0.99

00:50:34.240 I don't want to hear your BS argument about how children aren't pets, quote unquote, but they're not.

00:50:41.100 I mean, they're not pets.

00:50:44.780 They're very much not pets.

00:50:46.560 Like, I don't know.

00:50:48.400 It's not a BS argument.

00:50:49.440 That's an actual thing.

00:50:51.200 So that's why your case doesn't apply.

00:50:55.160 Okay.

00:50:55.640 They aren't pets.

00:50:57.920 So children, and here's a radical idea.

00:51:00.700 Children and pets should be treated differently.

00:51:03.160 Just like, uh, I certainly hope you don't put your child to bed in a crate at night.

00:51:10.500 Okay.

00:51:10.920 I don't lock my kid in a crate when they go to sleep at night.

00:51:13.680 We do put a dog in a crate.

00:51:15.680 All right.

00:51:16.360 So, cause, cause I feed a dog out of a bowl on the ground.

00:51:20.640 I don't do that with my kids.

00:51:23.260 I let my kids sit on the furniture in the house.

00:51:26.380 I don't let the dog sit on the furniture.

00:51:28.600 Because they are humans and the dog is a dog.

00:51:33.440 And these are two different kinds of creatures.

00:51:36.740 And so they are treated differently.

00:51:39.780 Um, if I invite your family over for dinner, if I say, Hey, come over for dinner, bring the

00:51:45.500 family.

00:51:47.040 Yes.

00:51:47.460 I would be very annoyed if you brought your dog because your dog, that's not what I

00:51:52.720 meant.

00:51:53.480 Your dog is not part of the family.

00:51:55.980 And I know you might say, well, he's really part of the family.

00:51:57.900 Okay.

00:51:58.640 Maybe to you emotionally, but he's not actually part of your family.

00:52:02.120 He's not, he's not like actually, he's not, not legally, not biologically, not in any

00:52:06.420 kind of actual sense.

00:52:07.720 Is he part of the family?

00:52:08.820 And so when I invite the family over, I'm not talking about the pets.

00:52:11.940 I didn't, I'm not saying bring all your pets to bring the gerbil and the cat and the

00:52:15.700 dog.

00:52:15.980 Like, and most normal people understand that.

00:52:18.560 However, if I, if I invite your family over and say, Hey, bring, come on over with your

00:52:23.100 family.

00:52:24.580 It's understood that I also mean the kids.

00:52:28.240 That's why I said, bring the family.

00:52:32.140 I don't know how else to explain it.

00:52:33.380 I really shouldn't have to explain it.

00:52:35.200 If you were here with us on election night or the inauguration, you already know the Daily

00:52:38.040 Wire doesn't just show up.

00:52:39.420 We take over.

00:52:40.120 And now we're headed back to DC to do just that at CPAC.

00:52:43.240 Join me along with Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan, and Jeremy Boring all on stage

00:52:47.640 live tomorrow night, February 20th.

00:52:49.600 Check it out.

00:52:50.060 No scripted talking points.

00:53:16.680 It's no corporate approved narratives, just real conversations.

00:53:19.740 And also we're taking your questions.

00:53:21.840 Don't just watch CPAC.

00:53:22.980 Be part of it.

00:53:24.300 Live tomorrow night, February 20th on Daily Wire Plus.

00:53:27.440 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:53:35.500 Daily cancellation today is a bit graphic.

00:53:37.740 So if you have kids around while you're listening to this, please turn the show off and come

00:53:41.560 back to it when the kids are not there.

00:53:43.460 We're going to talk about a piece of legislation that's been introduced by Democrats in Ohio.

00:53:47.600 And the state of the Democrat Party is such that I have to issue a parental advisory warning

00:53:51.620 before discussing the bills that they write. 0.97

00:53:54.240 This is what happens when your party is overrun by weirdos and creeps.

00:53:57.280 But that's where we are.

00:53:58.820 Daily Star reports, quote,

00:53:59.740 A pioneering bill has been put forward in Ohio that would make it a serious crime for men

00:54:04.480 to ejaculate unless they plan to father a child.

00:54:07.580 The proposed law introduced by Democratic House Representative Anita Somani aims to regulate

00:54:12.100 male reproductive rights in the same way as women's.

00:54:14.160 Abortion remains a highly contentious issue in the U.S., which, as we know, Somani points

00:54:20.800 out, quote,

00:54:21.240 You don't get pregnant on your own.

00:54:22.660 If you're going to penalize someone for an unwanted pregnancy, why not penalize the person 0.97

00:54:25.720 who is also responsible for the pregnancy? 1.00

00:54:27.160 The bill dubbed the Conception Begins at Erection Act would make it a crime for any man in the

00:54:32.740 state to discharge semen without the intent to fertilize.

00:54:36.320 There are exceptions for cases where protection or contraceptives are used during sex. 0.77

00:54:41.160 Also, masturbation, sperm donation, or same-sex relations among the LGBTQ plus community 0.94

00:54:47.580 would also be exceptions. 0.95

00:54:51.240 That's the bill.

00:54:52.240 Here's the local ABC affiliate with more.

00:54:55.980 The bill, named the Conception Begins at Erection Act, is co-sponsored by Democratic

00:55:00.620 State Representatives Anita Somani, an OBGYN from Dublin, and Tristan Rader of Lakewood.

00:55:06.640 The whole entire point of this bill is to call out the hypocrisy of particularly the state

00:55:11.420 legislature when they bring forward bills to regulate women's bodies. 1.00

00:55:15.140 Now, there are exceptions to the proposed law, which include sperm donation, contraception,

00:55:19.940 and members of the LGBTQ community.

00:55:22.880 Men face a maximum $10,000 fine after the third offense if they have sex with a woman without

00:55:29.040 the intention of conceiving a child.

00:55:31.220 Men have the same rights no matter where they go in the country. 0.70

00:55:34.880 Women have rights based on where they live. 1.00

00:55:37.160 The final draft still being written.

00:55:38.920 The proposed legislation will get a hearing after it's submitted.

00:55:42.420 But with a Republican-controlled legislature, the bill not expected to go anywhere.

00:55:47.080 For this particular bill, that's certainly okay.

00:55:49.960 Again, the whole point of this bill wasn't to get it passed.

00:55:51.900 The whole point of this bill was to call out the hypocrisy.

00:55:54.420 So the point of the bill, he says, was not to get passed.

00:55:57.400 And, of course, it won't pass.

00:55:59.440 So this doofus is admitting that they're wasting taxpayer money on a political stunt.

00:56:04.240 They are using the legislative process as a stage for their theatrical performance.

00:56:09.000 And he isn't bothering to pretend otherwise.

00:56:11.280 That's how much respect they have for their constituents, which is all that really needs to be said about this.

00:56:15.980 It's a ridiculous stunt by politicians who can't contain or disguise the contempt they have for the citizens of their state.

00:56:22.520 But on top of all that, it's also a really bad argument. 0.91

00:56:27.100 Okay, they're doing this to make a point. 1.00

00:56:28.980 And the point they're making is quite stupid. 1.00

00:56:32.320 In fact, it undercuts their position. 1.00

00:56:34.760 It makes the opposite point from what they're trying to make.

00:56:38.000 That's what happens when you take a strawman argument that you found in a YouTube comment section and then try to build a piece of legislation around it.

00:56:46.640 It's destined to backfire.

00:56:48.340 And that's what's occurred in this case.

00:56:49.540 The idea that this parody bill is supposed to legislate a man's body in the same way that pro-life laws allegedly legislate a woman's body.

00:56:57.820 Like, that's the idea that they're attempting to illustrate the absurdity, as they see it, of pro-life laws, of laws that prevent the dismemberment of infants, by showing what it would be like if the shoe was on the other foot.

00:57:13.000 Right?

00:57:13.400 That's the idea.

00:57:14.600 But it doesn't work. 0.98

00:57:16.940 Their dumb, satirical bill seeks to legally control a man's sexual behavior and penalize him for behavior that falls outside of the parameters of this law. 0.97

00:57:27.840 But that is precisely what anti-abortion laws don't do. 1.00

00:57:34.320 Laws restricting abortion do not place any restrictions on a woman's sexual behavior.

00:57:39.600 Like, as far as these laws are concerned, the woman can have sex with whoever she wants, in whatever way she wants, as often as she wants. 0.99

00:57:48.300 There is no abortion restriction in the country, in any state anywhere, nor has there ever been one proposed at any point anywhere, that would put the kinds of restrictions on women that this bill in Ohio would put on men.

00:58:01.200 Now, these Democrats in Ohio are correct.

00:58:08.220 The bill they propose is a good example of what legislating somebody's body and controlling their sex life would look like.

00:58:16.620 And the keen observer will notice that abortion restrictions don't look anything like that.

00:58:23.660 The real analogy to a law prohibiting men from having sex unless they intend to have children would be a law prohibiting women from having sex unless they intend to have children. 0.51

00:58:33.940 But no such law exists.

00:58:36.620 Not in Ohio or anywhere else.

00:58:39.000 Abortion restrictions do only one thing. 1.00

00:58:43.980 They protect a child who has already been conceived from being killed.

00:58:49.160 The laws don't prevent women from having sex or put any kind of regulation on the sexual act at all.

00:58:58.440 They simply prevent women from killing their children long after they've already engaged in the reproductive act and conceived the child.

00:59:06.180 Preventing a woman from killing her child is not some kind of unique and onerous burden.

00:59:12.100 It puts women on the same plane as men, who also are not allowed to kill children. 0.99

00:59:16.980 The question of how or why the woman had sex or with whom is completely irrelevant.

00:59:23.460 Maybe she meant to conceive the child. 0.98

00:59:25.320 Maybe she didn't.

00:59:26.120 Maybe she's married to the father. 0.99

00:59:27.540 Maybe she isn't.

00:59:28.220 All of that is totally irrelevant to the law.

00:59:31.180 The point of the law, of any law banning abortion, is to recognize the scientific fact that children in the womb are living human beings.

00:59:40.020 Now, it is, of course, true that sex is where babies come from.

00:59:43.820 That is one biological fact that leftists still seem to understand, at least for now.

00:59:48.460 And so it is also, therefore, true that you should only have sex if you are at least open to the possibility of conceiving children.

00:59:55.320 Now, the left treats this idea like some kind of mind-boggling non-sequitur. 0.79

01:00:01.680 Sex is how babies are made. 1.00

01:00:03.360 It's resulted in a baby.

01:00:05.540 That act has resulted in creating a baby billions of times throughout history.

01:00:12.260 If you are so terrified of having a baby that you would actually kill to prevent the child from being born, if you would rather murder your own offspring than raise him, if you would even rather murder him than give birth to him and hand him to someone who wants to raise him, then you should not be having sex. 0.77

01:00:31.180 Like, you should exercise some self-control and save yourself a lifetime of guilt and regret in the process.

01:00:37.080 Nobody is talking about passing any laws that would prevent you from having sex, but you still shouldn't. 0.99

01:00:44.920 But it is your choice.

01:00:47.460 That part of it is.

01:00:49.960 Killing a child, however, should not be a choice available to you or to anyone.

01:00:56.480 It should not be available to anyone ever at all for any reason.

01:01:02.380 That's the whole point.

01:01:03.400 And as pro-lifers, that's really our only point.

01:01:08.500 And it's the point that these Democrats and every other Democrat miss.

01:01:12.680 And it's why they are today canceled.

01:01:15.980 That'll do it for sure.

01:01:16.560 Today, thanks for watching.

01:01:17.120 Thanks for listening.

01:01:17.740 Have a great day.

01:01:18.660 Godspeed.

01:01:18.960 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - February 19, 2025

Ep. 1539 - Democrats Have Entered Panic Mode As RFK Sets Out To Make America Healthy Again

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