The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1544 - Criminals Are Taking Control Over Our Prisons And Nothing Is Being Done

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, prison guards in New York have gone on strike. The situation is

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00:02:15.880 media, whose job is supposedly to keep us informed, fails to even mention one of the most important stories

00:02:20.900 that's unfolding in the country right now. As we've seen, the press will devote days of coverage

00:02:25.660 to the plight of federal bureaucrats who can't respond to a simple email. The idea appears to be

00:02:30.840 that these bureaucrats as government employees are entitled to special protection simply by virtue of

00:02:35.740 working for the government. But for reasons that nobody has explained, these same mainstream media

00:02:41.120 outlets have demonstrated no sympathy or even the slightest interest in the ongoing shutdown that's

00:02:47.520 unfolding in New York's state prison system. Corrections officers in virtually every single

00:02:52.440 one of New York's prisons are now on a so-called wildcat strike, meaning a strike that is not

00:02:57.340 approved by the union or allowed by the law. This is a strike that is now in its second week.

00:03:03.180 Nine out of 10 corrections officers in the state have walked off the job because they're saying that

00:03:08.740 the working conditions have become extremely unsafe. Prison guards are now constantly being

00:03:14.320 assaulted and they've just had enough. And as a result, the National Guard has been called in

00:03:19.280 as part of a desperate bid to prevent a deadly prison takeover like the one that led to mass

00:03:24.360 casualties in Attica back in the 1970s. Now, some of these National Guard units are currently staying

00:03:32.620 in the cells at these prisons in New York. And as of now, it seems likely that they'll probably be

00:03:38.440 there for a while. Even though New York has offered to double the overtime pay of any correctional

00:03:43.120 officer who goes back to work, it doesn't look like many of them are taking the government up on

00:03:47.160 that offer. So how did we arrive at a situation where government employees are encouraged to

00:03:53.920 complain on CNN about an email from Elon Musk, while government employees who say their lives are

00:03:59.940 in danger every time they go to work are being ignored? You know, it doesn't quite make any sense.

00:04:05.960 And it's especially confusing when you consider the fact that ordinarily, the fact that corrections

00:04:10.780 officers are refusing to report to duty at roughly 38 of New York's 42 prisons would be exactly the

00:04:16.960 kind of story that the news media would be interested in. It's clearly the setup for a

00:04:21.240 potentially significant disaster. And normally the media loves a story like that. And they especially

00:04:27.260 love stories of government workers who are on strike because they say that they have unfair

00:04:31.820 working conditions. And in this case, it's actually true that the working conditions are unsafe and

00:04:37.260 unfair and hazardous. And yet the media isn't really jumping all over it. Why might that be?

00:04:44.860 If you look into what these correctional officers are demanding, the media blackout starts to make

00:04:50.520 a little more sense. But before I get into the specifics, I want to provide some context first,

00:04:55.400 and I'll do that by asking a simple question. If you had to guess the average life expectancy of a

00:05:01.600 correctional officer in this country, and I remind you a first world country, what would you estimate

00:05:08.400 it to be? Now, for reference, the life expectancy for the general population is around 77 years,

00:05:13.360 which is already relatively low, and it's still dropping. Law enforcement officers as a category

00:05:18.900 have a life expectancy of around 66 years, which is pretty horrifying and very bad. But for correctional

00:05:25.660 officers, life expectancy is even lower than that. In fact, it's much lower. The average life

00:05:30.040 expectancy for a correctional officer in this country is 59 years old. Okay? 59 years old. And a

00:05:38.260 major reason for that is the stress that the job entails, which leads to a very high rate of suicide

00:05:43.840 among correctional officers. So already the baseline is not good. The work conditions in general are

00:05:52.340 certainly not ideal. But instead of addressing those work conditions in any meaningful way, in 2022,

00:05:59.260 New York passed something called the Human Alternatives to Long-Term Solitary Confinement Act,

00:06:05.020 or HALT Act. And this is a law that has its origins in the George Floyd era, and it makes it far more

00:06:11.160 difficult for prison guards to confine dangerous inmates to solitary confinement. In particular, the law

00:06:17.740 completely prevents prison guards from putting anyone age 21 or younger into solitary confinement for any

00:06:24.900 reason. Yes, they consider 21-year-olds to be a special population, as if they're children, even

00:06:31.720 though these are legal adults who are in, you know, adult prison. But they can't be locked away by

00:06:38.120 themselves, no matter what they do. It would be unthinkable, apparently, to put them in solitary

00:06:44.120 confinement. Additionally, no matter how old an inmate is, the law states that the maximum amount of time an

00:06:50.080 inmate can be placed in solitary confinement is just 15 days. So in other words, even if you're a 25-year-old

00:06:57.560 gangbanger in peak physical condition, and you've decided to constantly assault prison guards and

00:07:02.720 shank other inmates, then you still cannot be put in solitary confinement for more than two weeks.

00:07:09.840 After that, you can go back into general population. Now, New York Democrats passed this law on the theory

00:07:15.500 that solitary confinement is a form of legalized torture. Now, of course, if you're a sane person,

00:07:21.660 then the idea of being forced to interact with other inmates in a New York state prison outside of

00:07:26.880 solitary confinement probably sounds a lot like torture. And also keep in mind, we're talking about

00:07:32.520 an extremely dysfunctional group of people here. I mean, the only people going into solitary confinement

00:07:36.580 are criminals who ended up in prison, right, because they're in prison to begin with, and then commit

00:07:43.580 additional offenses after they're already in prison. Okay, so these are criminals who the message isn't

00:07:50.800 getting through to them at all. Nobody is torturing these people. We've simply run out of places to put

00:07:56.700 them. But New York's political leaders disagreed. They decided that it's more important to have

00:08:03.700 compassion, quote unquote, for criminals than compassion for prison guards or for anyone else.

00:08:08.500 And the results have been clear. In the three years since the Halt Act was passed,

00:08:13.520 inmate-on-inmate assaults have increased by nearly 170 percent. There's also been a 75 percent increase

00:08:21.140 in attacks by inmates against prison staff. And that's why during the strike, the correctional

00:08:26.440 workers have said that their top priority, their main demand, is repealing this awful Halt Act.

00:08:33.640 Watch.

00:08:33.920 For the first time, we're getting our hands on a letter from the State Corrections Department

00:08:39.120 that really shows the state making an effort here to try to meet some of these correctional

00:08:43.520 officers' demands. If we go to some video now, we can show you that letter. And the number one thing

00:08:47.580 that they're addressing here is the Halt Act, which has been the biggest concern for these officers

00:08:52.980 throughout this. The letter says that the Halt Act has been temporarily suspended until staffing levels

00:08:57.920 are improved. And for those of you who don't know what the Halt Act is, it's a prison reform that limits

00:09:02.660 this solitary confinement. It's only a few weeks at most, when in the past, it could have been

00:09:07.280 months at a time. And in many ways, takes a lot of leverage away from these officers when they try

00:09:11.820 to punish inmates for misbehaving. We asked a few folks today if this temporary pause changes

00:09:17.060 anything, and we'll listen to what they had to say here.

00:09:20.180 No, we don't want to temporary because you're going to come back in two weeks and reinstitute it.

00:09:23.960 And then we did all this for nothing. We're not punching bags and we're not stabbing

00:09:28.160 dummies, right? If we can walk in there and not have to worry about feces thrown at us,

00:09:32.720 getting stabbed, getting sexually assaulted. If we can go in there and just a little bit is lessened,

00:09:38.800 then that's why we came out here.

00:09:41.600 I mean, you know, we're used to seeing these videos of striking workers, striking government

00:09:47.440 employees in particular. And quite often the complaints are absurd and the demands are

00:09:54.880 egregious and sometimes obscene. In this case, though, what they're demanding is that they don't

00:10:03.680 get stabbed or sexually assaulted or have crap thrown on them. Like, that's a pretty reasonable 0.99

00:10:11.520 demand, I think. I mean, that's, that's, you should, you should be able to expect that at least in your,

00:10:17.320 in your work environment. Or at the very least you should, if you're working in a prison,

00:10:21.440 you should know that the law, you know, the, the law has your back and that everything is being

00:10:26.920 done legally to protect you as much as possible from that sort of thing happening to you.

00:10:32.960 Um, so, you know, we give government employees a hard time, rightfully so, I certainly do,

00:10:37.760 but these are government workers, uh, these prison guards, correction officers who actually perform

00:10:44.020 a necessary job. In fact, it's not just necessary. Civilized society cannot exist without these

00:10:52.400 people. These correctional officers are, you know, they're not putting together DEI training sessions

00:10:58.120 at the Pentagon. They're not auditing people over $600, uh, because, you know, who received over

00:11:03.200 $600 on, on Venmo. They're nothing like the government workers we talked about yesterday. These people

00:11:08.380 are our last line of defense that's keeping extremely dangerous criminals locked up far away from the

00:11:14.660 rest of us. They are doing a very difficult, necessary job that I personally, I don't know

00:11:19.420 about you, would never want to do in a million years. Somebody needs to do it. I'm really glad

00:11:24.620 they're doing it because I don't want to do it. Um, and when you have people like that doing a job like

00:11:30.480 that, well, those are people who, if, if they're coming to you and telling you that the work

00:11:35.520 environment is terrible and, uh, the, there are some things they need, you just give them whatever

00:11:40.200 they need. I mean, the, you know, this, this is one of very few cases where I would say, okay,

00:11:45.040 just triple their pay. First of all, whatever they're getting paid, triple it. Let's start with

00:11:49.220 that. And, uh, and then work, just work down the list. Just give them everything they want. 0.65

00:11:56.480 Uh, I would rather give prison guards everything they want so they can get back to work

00:12:00.080 and, you know, have as, as good of morale as you can expect people to have when they're working in

00:12:06.180 a prison. And yet they've been ignored and it seems completely abandoned by the leadership in

00:12:11.440 their state. If anything, the state has been actively sabotaging their ability to do their

00:12:14.740 jobs. And they've, they've had some help along the way. In fact, local news stations in New York

00:12:18.860 are still producing sob stories for these criminals. Uh, and just the other day, a local news station

00:12:24.120 in Buffalo aired this segment about a convicted murderer who says that the prison guards are wrong

00:12:29.080 and that we really need the whole act to remain in place. And, uh, here's his reasoning. This is

00:12:33.980 one of the most deranged segments you'll see on a news station. Uh, watch. It is torture. It is

00:12:41.020 torture in every way, shape, and form. I probably would have rather than pull out my fingernails and

00:12:47.420 get it over with than I spent a year, two years in solitary confinement. But that pain would end then.

00:12:54.880 The pain of solitary is still with me now.

00:12:57.000 Co-director of the Halt Solitary Campaign, Jerome Wright, was incarcerated for 32 years,

00:13:02.660 serving time for second-degree murder and manslaughter. He says he spent seven of those

00:13:07.260 years in solitary confinement.

00:13:09.000 Just think about this. Think about your bathroom, living in your bathroom for 23 hours out of the day

00:13:15.240 every day for a year. Uh, think about, do it for a week. Think about for a week. How do you think

00:13:20.940 that would make you feel?

00:13:21.800 So notice how the reporter just kind of casually slips in the whole second-degree murder thing in

00:13:26.820 the middle of the segment. They introduce Jerome as this reasonable guy who's upset with solitary

00:13:31.220 confinement. He says it's comparable to getting your fingernails pulled out. Uh, he calls it torture.

00:13:36.340 And then they just kind of drop in the fact that he killed another person and, you know, just sort of

00:13:40.880 get it out of the way. They also didn't mention anything that he did while he was incarcerated,

00:13:44.880 which might explain why he was placed in solitary confinement. Instead, they just move right along to the

00:13:50.140 analogy that he makes where he says that normal people wouldn't want to live in their bathrooms for any 0.78

00:13:54.340 amount of time. Uh, and the logic is pretty solid right up until you realize that Jerome Wright has

00:14:00.520 committed murder, manslaughter, robbery, and burglary. Once you kill another human being, along with a slew of

00:14:07.760 other very serious violent crimes, then you don't get to complain about your accommodations in prison. On the

00:14:15.600 other hand, if you don't murder another human being, then you don't have to live in your bathroom. You

00:14:20.420 can live anywhere you want. See, that's one of the perks of being not a murderer. That's how the system

00:14:26.860 works. We don't want to encourage people to commit murder. We want to discourage it. And one of the ways

00:14:32.500 that we do that is by placing murderers in places they don't want to be. Okay, so when Jerome says,

00:14:40.000 well, can you imagine being in the, I don't have to imagine it, Jerome. I didn't kill anybody. You did.

00:14:46.020 Okay, you're a scumbag criminal. Hopefully you're reformed now. I don't know. But that's what you were. 1.00

00:14:52.040 And so you were punished for it. I don't have to do that because I'm not a, uh, someone who's

00:14:58.060 killing and robbing people. It's pretty easy to not end up, you know, it's like not ending up in

00:15:05.480 solitary confinement in prison is like the easiest thing in the world. Okay. That's the lowest bar

00:15:11.540 you could ever expect somebody to clear. It is the easiest thing. You know how easy it is for me

00:15:16.760 every day to not end up in solitary confinement in prison. It's so easy. I don't even have to try.

00:15:23.180 That's how easy it is. You just have to not kill people. And even then, even if you kill someone,

00:15:30.340 that probably is not enough to get you in solitary confinement. So to not get in solitary confinement,

00:15:34.760 you have to not kill anybody. And then also, even if you do kill someone, don't continue trying to

00:15:40.140 kill people. If you can't clear that bar, then you deserve to be in solitary confinement forever. 0.97

00:15:45.720 Like I don't care at that point. Throw them in solitary confinement for 50 years. If you can't 0.97

00:15:50.060 get over that bar, you're, you're just not welcome in society. And if you're the kind of person who we

00:15:55.000 can't even trust you in prison, putting you in a cage in prison, even that's not enough to get

00:16:02.280 through your skull, then at that point, why should we care about your plight? And by the way,

00:16:08.200 when Jerome Wright was paroled, he tested positive for cocaine during a drug test and then signed a

00:16:13.820 confession admitting he had used cocaine. But we're supposed to believe that that was all a big

00:16:17.620 misunderstanding as well. The Washington Post wrote up a whole sob story about it. So this guy's never

00:16:21.700 responsible for anything that happens to him, essentially. While he's busy killing people and

00:16:26.100 failing drug tests, it's our job to not disappoint him. And we just keep failing.

00:16:33.220 Now on the bright side, I can think of one solution that would solve Jerome Wright's problem

00:16:36.740 and the problems created by many other murderers like him. It turns out that no one, not a single

00:16:43.600 person has been executed in the state of New York since 1963. The state has essentially abolished the

00:16:49.140 death penalty. And that means that all of the worst, most violent people in the state

00:16:52.740 just stay in the system forever until they die of old age. If we actually had a sensible system of

00:16:58.960 capital punishment that we used on the worst kinds of criminals, then the chaos in our prisons would

00:17:04.280 be greatly reduced at the very least. And you also wouldn't need solitary confinement. At least you

00:17:08.540 wouldn't need it as much. Certainly people like Jerome Wright wouldn't complain about their bathroom

00:17:13.200 size cells anymore. And prison guards wouldn't get assaulted every day. Seems like a win-win.

00:17:19.080 Then again, no one's floating that as a possible solution here, just like no one in the

00:17:22.220 mainstream press is talking about this prison strike at all. They're not talking about the

00:17:25.900 strike because it's yet another example of how so-called criminal justice reform is in fact a

00:17:30.180 disaster waiting to unfold. And once again, we're seeing how compassion for criminals in the end

00:17:36.820 causes suffering for innocent people. Compassion to criminals is cruelty to innocent people.

00:17:44.200 Every single time, that's how it works. That is the lesson of the Halt Act and the ongoing

00:17:49.480 crisis unfolding in New York. And before criminals completely seize control of the prison system in

00:17:55.060 one of our largest states, it's a lesson that more people in power need to learn and quickly.

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00:18:59.640 Here's another big story, the Post Millennial reports. On Tuesday, the House Judiciary Committee

00:19:04.020 revealed that over 400,000 taxpayers were affected by the leaking of tax records by a former IRS

00:19:09.000 contractor, including the records of President Donald Trump. Relying on data analysis by the

00:19:13.800 Treasury's Spectre General for Tax Administration and the IRS, the IRS mailed notifications to 405,427

00:19:21.200 taxpayers whose taxpayer information was inappropriately disclosed by Mr. Littlejohn. Approximately 89%

00:19:28.000 of the taxpayers are business entities. Charles Littlejohn, a former IRS contractor, was sentenced in

00:19:32.960 January 2024 to five years in prison after leaking the tax records of Donald Trump, Jeff Bezos,

00:19:38.480 and Elon Musk. And he pled guilty in October. And the other part of this is that we were initially

00:19:50.100 told, so we knew about this leak. This guy went to prison for it. But we were originally told that

00:19:56.980 the leak affected, you know, 50 or 60 or 70,000 people or whatever it was. It was a relatively small

00:20:04.440 number. And now it turns out that, oh, well, actually it was 400 plus thousand. And then maybe,

00:20:11.920 you know, next week we'll find out that, oh, sorry, we meant 4 million. That's kind of how it seems to be

00:20:18.640 working. So, you know, this is great. We were told that we should be deeply afraid of Doge and Elon Musk

00:20:26.680 having access to our information. And then it's an IRS employee who turns around and leaks our tax 0.69

00:20:33.460 records. Okay. This was not a Doge employee who did this. This was not Big Balls. Big Balls didn't

00:20:43.420 do this. Don't try to put this on Big Balls. Everybody wants to blame Big Balls for everything,

00:20:48.560 but Big Balls is a man of honor and integrity. Your tax records are safe with Big Balls.

00:20:56.020 And I'll tell you another thing, Big Balls won't leak anything. Big Balls never leaks.

00:21:02.300 But it's the IRS and they're decidedly small balls. That's where the leaks are coming from. 0.92

00:21:07.700 And that was always going to be the case. That's why it's absurd when the media fear mongers about

00:21:11.340 Doge having access to our stuff. Because our stuff, our records, are already fully accessible

00:21:19.460 to countless federal employees. Right? I mean, how many? Well, there's no way to know exactly.

00:21:26.940 How many federal employees have access to your tax records? How many federal employees have access to

00:21:31.800 everything about you? You know, no way to know. I mean, hundreds? Thousands?

00:21:38.680 Thousands? Essentially, you know, it's an unquantifiable number. And these are people that

00:21:48.840 we don't know anything about, just anonymous bureaucrats. And that's always been the case.

00:21:55.260 Why should we trust a random person at the IRS or any other agency more than we trust Big Balls

00:22:02.420 and Doge? Makes no sense to me. All right. Daily Wire reports, Bill Maher,

00:22:08.500 the host of HBO's Real Time, said during an interview last week that Democrats need to drop

00:22:12.780 their support for the transgender movement if they want to start winning again.

00:22:15.740 Maher made their remarks on the leftist podcast Pod Save America with the former Obama speech

00:22:19.280 writer John Lovett. We have some of that conversation. So here's a clip of it.

00:22:27.880 Do I think in most of America they did that in schools? I don't. But I think in enough of them,

00:22:33.300 in enough far left places, they did constantly have this idea in the minds of children that maybe

00:22:43.060 you're not in the right body. I mean, the New England Journal of Medicine advocated for taking

00:22:49.680 sex off of a birth certificate, I believe. It was like, you're assigned sex.

00:22:56.840 Assigned says a birth. Assigned. Yeah.

00:22:58.300 You're assigned. I think that's right.

00:22:59.520 Well, I was assigned it by my dad, okay, when I was born. Yes. And again, to tell kids,

00:23:04.580 it doesn't always have to be and isn't always the default setting. But that's a different mentality

00:23:12.060 than they put in the minds of kids. And that's why this debate goes on. And the fact that you think,

00:23:18.280 or a lot of people on the left, think that even if you just have this debate, it makes you a bigot,

00:23:23.240 you just have to roll over. That was, you asked about the Biden administration. That was their

00:23:27.840 position. For a long time, people said, oh, older gay people are recruiting kids to be gay. 0.95

00:23:34.860 And they wouldn't really be gay. It was, they were being recruited. They were being groomed.

00:23:39.040 That they were being drawn. That was their conservative position. The Christian right position

00:23:42.680 for a long time was the reason you didn't want to have gay teachers is they're going to recruit. 1.00

00:23:46.880 That the gay lifestyle is going to look so enticing and so exciting that it's going to bring these, 0.98

00:23:52.380 these poor defenseless boys, they mostly boys into the gay lifestyle and destroy their lives. But of 1.00

00:23:58.800 course that wasn't true. Really all gay teachers were, were an example. Right. Right. Yeah.

00:24:03.260 Look, there are a few examples of people getting older and realizing that they shouldn't have

00:24:08.980 transitioned. That happens. It's real. That's real. Yeah. More than a few. 0.92

00:24:12.140 But there are also really important surgeries that people get for their heart and they go wrong and

00:24:17.520 somebody dies. And nobody says we must stop the cardiologist. And what you say is, let's make

00:24:21.820 sure that this version of it is being practiced. Well, we don't just, we don't get rid of the

00:24:26.620 specific surgery. We don't throw out a whole field of medicine. We say, let's make sure we're doing it in

00:24:30.520 a way that's healthy. And that gender affirming care saves a lot of lives. And the, and the truth is,

00:24:35.640 we talk about these edge cases, talk about athletes, talk about locker rooms. But for the most part,

00:24:39.460 what we're talking about is a very small group of people that just want the opportunity to live

00:24:44.220 and express themselves. Okay. So a bunch of things to go over here. First of all, Bill Maher,

00:24:49.120 as usual, is defending basically the weakest version of the right side of this argument.

00:24:54.780 The fact that me and Bill Maher are ostensibly on the same side of the trans debate is just a

00:24:59.820 reflection of how insane the left has gotten, of course, because in actuality, Maher still has a

00:25:04.720 leftist view of the trans issue. You know, that's the crazy thing is that he's seen as this

00:25:09.780 kind of voice of reason on the trans stuff. But, and he is in comparison to like the guy that he was

00:25:15.780 just talking to, he is, but he still has a liberal view of the issue, which by the way, I don't think

00:25:23.740 he, I don't think he would object to that characterization. He doesn't object, he doesn't object to,

00:25:29.200 he is a liberal. I don't think he would deny that. So now he objects for the most part to castrating

00:25:35.400 kids, which is good that he objects to that, but he doesn't really deny the validity of transgenderism

00:25:42.920 in principle, right? That's the point. Because that is, if there's a quote unquote conservative

00:25:49.920 position on this, it's not just that, oh, we shouldn't be harming kids. It's that transgenderism 0.90

00:25:58.940 itself is a category error. It's the, the category itself is made up. Um, that's the conservative

00:26:09.760 position. That's not Bill Maher's position. In fact, I believe he said recently in the last couple of

00:26:13.580 weeks that the right goes too far when they say that sex is only male and female. He kind of alluded to

00:26:18.780 it there where he said that, um, you know, uh, his position is basically like most of the time you can

00:26:26.580 tell if a baby is male or female, uh, from birth, but that's not always the case. It's not always the

00:26:34.000 default setting. Um, so he thinks there are exceptions, which means that Mars position on

00:26:38.560 transgenderism is the left wing position of 15 or 20 years ago. Uh, the difference is that he did not 0.85

00:26:45.940 keep sliding insanely to the left. He just stayed in his spot while the rest of the left drifted,

00:26:52.440 you know, that way. And, and that's what makes Mar the reasonable one in all these conversations.

00:26:57.080 It's not that he's conservative at all. It's that he he's just, he's, he's the exact same liberal that

00:27:04.300 he was 15 years ago. He has the exact same liberal positions that he did 15 years ago. His progressivism

00:27:09.740 did not progress. Uh, it didn't go into remission either. It just kind of stayed in one spot.

00:27:16.640 And that's important to emphasize because whenever you see Mar debating transgenderism with a leftist,

00:27:20.700 you have to remember that the position he's defending is actually a very liberal position,

00:27:25.080 but it's still too much. It's too conservative. It's too sane for the more left wing person he's

00:27:30.920 arguing with. That's always the dynamic in these conversations we've seen. And that's the dynamic

00:27:34.980 here. And then we hear from the other guy, John Lovett. And his answer as expected is a total

00:27:40.500 mess. First of all, he says, uh, Hey, remember when conservatives claimed, claimed that LGBT

00:27:45.880 activists were recruiting kids. That was crazy. That turned out to be false, right? So clearly what

00:27:51.800 they're saying now about the trans stuff is also false. Um, and his point is that the conservatives

00:27:57.380 were obviously wrong about LGBT activists recruiting kids, which means that they're also wrong about the

00:28:03.180 trans stuff, except that we weren't wrong about kids being recruited. That's exactly what happened. 1.00

00:28:10.160 Yeah, you're right. We did claim that. And we have been proven correct. That's why you see an

00:28:17.100 explosion in LGBT identification over the past 10 years. The last number I saw, this was in a poll,

00:28:22.740 Gallup poll in April or March or April of 2024. I think maybe there's been a more recent one,

00:28:28.000 but the number was about 20% of Gen Z identifies as LGBT. And you hear these kinds of numbers. Maybe

00:28:35.420 you hear them so much, you get, you get numb to them, but really think about that 20%, 20%

00:28:39.540 of the entire generation identifies as LGBT. That is double the, uh, LGBT identification rate among

00:28:48.720 millennials and like 20 times the number of, uh, among boomers, which would be their grandparents.

00:28:57.240 So how did that happen? How, how does that happen? Well, it happens because there was a concerted effort

00:29:04.800 to use the public school system and the media and Hollywood and so on and social media to indoctrinate

00:29:11.720 children into this lifestyle. Again, think about this in term, in the, in, in, in the terms of

00:29:17.720 theories. Okay. A good theory should have predictive power. If a theory is true, then I should be able

00:29:25.840 to, based on this theory, predict what will happen in the future if my theory is true. Um, so take,

00:29:35.360 take the idea that children are being indoctrinated into the LGBT lifestyle, that there's an actual

00:29:41.240 recruitment effort underway to indoctrinate and brainwash kids into this. Uh, somebody like myself

00:29:48.980 who has made this claim for years is putting forward a theory. And that theory predicts, if it's true,

00:29:59.000 it predicts that we should see a massive disproportionate jump in LGBT identification in a generation that is

00:30:07.020 being indoctrinated. So if we're going around claiming that, Hey, they're indoctrinating kids into the LGBT

00:30:12.700 lifestyle. And then you look at the numbers and you see, yeah, well, yeah, but kids, this, this youngest

00:30:18.440 generation, they identify as LGBT at about the same rate as, you know, the last 10 generations before them.

00:30:25.300 And if that was the case, then that would be a fact that really disproves the theory that kids are being

00:30:32.860 indoctrinated. Then there's just, there's no evidence of it. Except that we do see, uh, these,

00:30:42.160 this massive jump, uh, the, the thing that our theory predicts came true, which is, uh, is, is very good

00:30:52.960 evidence that the theory itself is true. So John's argument, if you can call it that falls apart already.

00:30:59.400 And then he starts droning on about studies. He says that gender affirming care, quote unquote,

00:31:03.860 uh, save lot saves lives and studies prove it again, simply false. We've, we've gone over these

00:31:09.000 studies many times and all of the studies. And I mean, all of them, literally all of them

00:31:12.840 that allegedly prove the efficacy of quote unquote, gender affirming care. All of these studies are

00:31:18.540 bunk. The methodology is insane in all of them. Often these are studies funded by people who have a

00:31:24.340 vested financial interest in a certain outcome. And, uh, the studies are, are, as I always point

00:31:30.780 out, are, are impossible anyway. I mean, it's, it's actually impossible to have, even at this point,

00:31:35.880 even at this point, it is impossible to have a reliable study that proves the efficacy of this

00:31:41.820 quote unquote treatment. And that's because the question has always been, it's not really a question,

00:31:46.920 you know, to, to, to, to normal people, to sane people, it's not a question, but just using the term

00:31:51.720 loosely. The question has always been about the long-term effects of sterilizing and castrating

00:31:58.760 somebody and trying to change their gender. The question is the long-term effect, how they feel

00:32:06.260 about it a month later is irrelevant. It doesn't matter how they feel about it a year later is

00:32:13.760 irrelevant. Um, five years later, even that is not really the question. Although a lot of them a year

00:32:21.580 later or five years later will regret it, the regret sets in very, very quickly for many of these

00:32:27.840 people. But even that's not the question. The question is what is their life going to be like

00:32:32.500 20 years from now? Especially if this is being done at 13 years old. Uh, if you've got a 13 year

00:32:41.740 year old kid who was quote unquote transitioned, well, checking in with that 13 year old when he's

00:32:50.400 15, isn't going to tell us much. He's still a kid. So no, what I want to know is that 13 year old kid,

00:33:00.640 how is he doing when he's 35? When he's a full grown man, how was the 35 year old version of that 13

00:33:08.660 year old kid feeling about the fact that he can't have kids ever? And he's stuck in this body that

00:33:16.720 is still male and will never be female, but it's sort of in this state of like permanent prepubescence.

00:33:24.240 Um, how does he feel about that as a 35 year old man? How does a 13 year old girl feel when she's 35?

00:33:31.460 How does the 35 year old version of that 13 year old girl feel about not having breasts and not 0.72

00:33:38.920 being able to ever bear children? Um, what that means is that we are still like 10 years away from

00:33:47.260 being able to do any kind of reliable follow-up with the, you know, for lack of a better term,

00:33:52.820 the first batch of kids who this stuff was done to in mass. We're a decade away from me being able

00:34:01.320 to even follow up in any kind of meaningful way. Um, which is why all along there were two options.

00:34:10.120 One of them is, well, let's just do this to a whole bunch of kids and hope it works out and

00:34:16.220 use them as lab rats and check back in two decades and see how their lives are working out. That's one

00:34:21.620 option. That's the insane, uh, you know, mad scientist option where you are using human beings

00:34:30.680 as lab rats and performing human experiments. That's one option. The other option is to use

00:34:38.060 your common sense and say, well, no, I don't need to check back. Like I already know that

00:34:45.060 it's not going to improve their lives or their wellbeing in the long run or even the short run,

00:34:50.920 um, to mutilate their bodies, um, to mutilate their bodies and interfere with its natural processes.

00:35:00.100 So you can just use common sense. Your basic common sense will tell you that your basic human,

00:35:07.640 you know, basic, basic human decency tells you that or should anyway. Uh, let's see.

00:35:15.040 Daily Mail headline, airlines could soon charge overweight passengers more for plane tickets.

00:35:23.220 Do you agree? A debate is brewing over whether airlines should adopt weight-based pricing,

00:35:28.660 charging passengers based on their weight to reduce fuel consumption and emissions. This

00:35:32.180 discussion follows a broader trend of U.S. airlines implementing fees for checked baggage.

00:35:35.740 Um, while Samoa Air's 2013 fat tax failed to gain traction, Finnair recently conducted a three-month

00:35:43.940 voluntary data collection initiative, gathering passengers' weight along with their carry-on

00:35:47.720 luggage. Uh, this synonymized data, including age, gender, and travel class will be used to refine

00:35:53.580 aircraft balance and loading calculations from 2025 to 2030. A separate study of, uh, about a thousand

00:35:59.580 U.S. adults examined the public's reaction to three pricing models, the current system, a weight

00:36:04.480 threshold model, and a body weight model. Um, okay, so there's no actual story here. The headline

00:36:11.940 makes it sound like there's an airline actually adopting a policy of charging fat passengers extra.

00:36:17.120 Doesn't sound like that's actually going to happen anytime soon, but, um, but should it happen? Yeah,

00:36:22.840 absolutely it should, obviously. Obviously it should happen. Uh, and the policy should be pretty simple.

00:36:28.580 You know, if you're over a certain weight, you should have to buy two seats and then, and then you'll

00:36:33.760 actually get two seats, right? And, uh, you'll, you'll get the middle seat of your row and either

00:36:40.900 the aisle or window. That's the most fair thing. It'll also be the more comfortable thing for

00:36:46.680 everybody involved, but requiring another passenger to be squeezed into a seat and pressed against the

00:36:53.840 body of a morbidly obese person. I mean, it's just, it's inhumane. It really is. And I don't use that

00:37:00.600 word lightly, but it is inhumane. If I'm paying for a ticket on an airplane and this is bare minimum,

00:37:08.100 bare minimum stuff. If I'm paying for a ticket on an airplane, I should not have to make bodily

00:37:13.380 contact with another person for the whole flight. My, no part of my body should have to be in constant

00:37:22.680 contact with a stranger. Um, and, uh, and, but that's what ends up happening. If you get seated

00:37:29.260 right next to a morbidly obese person, cause their, their body is spilling over into your space. 0.99

00:37:35.300 Now there are some nuances to work out. Uh, what is the weight limit? You know, is a question. How do

00:37:39.800 you adjust it according to height? Do you adjust it? We can figure that out. I mean, I'm inclined to say

00:37:44.040 that it should be something pretty simple. Um, like if you're over pretty simple. And I also think

00:37:51.220 it could be generous. You know, I'm not saying that there should be, you have to be under 200

00:37:55.740 pounds or you got to pay extra, uh, because there are also plenty of people that could be over 200

00:38:00.780 pounds and not actually overweight. Um, so let's just say 350 pounds. I think is a pretty, that's a

00:38:08.260 pretty, pretty generous bar. I think, uh, 350 pounds. If you're over that, you have to pay for

00:38:15.220 an extra seat. And that would include a small number of very tall people who are 350 pounds and

00:38:22.540 not overweight or not that overweight. I would say even they should have to pay extra, even though

00:38:27.840 it's not their fault, you know, that's not their fault. But, um, these are people who are so big that

00:38:33.800 again, requiring someone to sit right next to them means that you, you're not even

00:38:37.660 I, I paid for a seat. I don't even get my whole seat because this huge person is sitting right next

00:38:43.920 to me and spilling over into it, which is just not right. Um, so to me, that's an, that's a pretty,

00:38:51.140 pretty simple solution. Could it create awkward situations? Yeah. Uh, and it would mean that there

00:38:58.200 would have to be some kind of scale, uh, in the airport. Like they have, you know, they have those

00:39:05.560 kind of bins to, so you can measure your carry on to make sure it's the right size.

00:39:10.700 There would need to be something like that, but for people. And it would mean that if you are a fat 0.79

00:39:18.700 person and you go to the airport, you know, and it's not, it's, it's not clear just by looking at

00:39:24.940 you if you're over 350 or under it. Yeah. You'd have to get on a scale at the airport. It'd be very

00:39:30.560 humiliating, but, uh, hopefully it's a wake-up call. That's, that's, that's the other advantage

00:39:37.260 to something like this. It's a, it's more, it's, it's a fairer system. It makes more sense.

00:39:44.400 And you're not setting out to humiliate people, but if that happens, then it becomes also an incentive.

00:39:52.860 That's a pretty good incentive to lose weight, isn't it? If you knew that, you know, you're going

00:40:00.260 to be traveling in six months because you're going to a wedding or something and that you might get

00:40:06.820 weighed at the airport, uh, I can't think of a better incentive to lose weight. So I think it's

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00:41:43.220 I too had to rewind to make sure that was a smoke detector beeping. How do people live with that

00:41:47.420 constant beeping noise? Yeah, that 95% of the comments for the show yesterday were about the

00:41:54.700 smoke detector beeping in the video of the IRS employee crying about losing his job. So that's

00:42:02.740 about 95% of the comments were about the smoke detector. And I have no idea. I don't know how people

00:42:07.820 can live with the beeping noise. It drives me insane. I can't deal with it. And usually it's

00:42:15.540 a pretty simple fix. You can just change the batteries. Look, why is this such an accurate

00:42:21.660 stereotype? I have no idea. I mean, the funny thing about the video yesterday, of course, is that

00:42:25.940 there's this long-running internet meme that if you're a very online person, as I sadly am,

00:42:31.340 you're quite aware of it, this sort of running joke about videos of black people in their homes.

00:42:37.740 And there's often a smoke detector beeping in the background. And that meme, that stereotype exists

00:42:44.400 for a reason. It's definitely a trend. I don't know why, but it's a thing. I mean, it's certainly

00:42:50.040 a thing. We all know that it's a thing. Actually, I've thought about this. And my theory up to now has

00:42:57.360 been, I mean, just to be totally frank, my theory has been that fatherlessness is endemic in the

00:43:02.920 black community. It's 70 or 80%. And dads are the ones who usually change the smoke detector 1.00

00:43:07.660 batteries. I mean, that's kind of been my theory. Now, in that video, it was a grown adult man

00:43:14.200 whose smoke detector was beeping. So that doesn't really explain that video. But generally speaking,

00:43:19.540 I kind of think that's why. I mean, someone should do a study on that.

00:43:24.500 You know, taking different demographics and then looking at their fatherlessness rate and then

00:43:32.580 comparing that to, on average, how long a smoke detector is allowed to beep in the home before

00:43:39.040 someone changes the batteries. That is a study that someone should do. And we should, USAID should fund

00:43:46.660 that study, should put $40 million into that study. Some professions like nursing and nearly every other 0.91

00:43:53.120 patient care staff have to document what the heck they're doing in critical and excruciating detail

00:43:57.040 throughout an even routine shift, hour by hour, if not by minute, with others basing later care on

00:44:03.660 what they write as well. Nobody with writer block there. Well, yeah, now you know that you're being

00:44:09.120 oppressed, that you have to, you're expected to give an account of what you've done at work. So

00:44:14.080 you didn't know that you're being oppressed, but now you know. So it's a good thing to know.

00:44:18.380 I tried doing the obligatory quarantine beard during COVID and gave up six days in because it

00:44:23.820 was freaking ridiculous looking and itchy as F. I'm sorry, you said six days? Was that a typo? Did

00:44:31.660 you, did you miss the zero? Because you must've meant 60 days, right? I mean, you're not actually

00:44:37.940 coming to me. You're not leaving a comment under my show claiming that you tried, you tried to grow

00:44:44.540 a beard for six days. You don't expect me to accept that excuse, do you? Six days is trying?

00:44:53.700 That's not trying. You didn't even, you didn't, you barely got to the point of itchiness. I mean,

00:44:58.880 you, you had one itch and you turned back. I just explained yesterday that there's, you hit the

00:45:06.280 itchiness wall, the itchiness threshold when you're growing a beard and you have to push through it.

00:45:10.860 It will take a couple of weeks, but you didn't even, you didn't make it one day into the itchiness.

00:45:15.840 The itchiness set in and you, you panicked. 0.94

00:45:20.420 It looks ridiculous. Yeah. For six, you're six days in. Yes. For the first few days, 0.90

00:45:26.260 you're going to look like you're, you're just lazy and you forgot to shave, right? For the first few

00:45:32.300 days, you're going to look just unshaven as opposed to bearded, right? You go from a shaven person

00:45:37.600 to, to unshaven looking and then bearded. So you were very much smack dab in the middle of the

00:45:45.780 unshaven period. You didn't even get to bearded. You never had a beard. You just had stubble.

00:45:53.860 You tried. Don't give me that. I don't want to hear that. How dare you?

00:45:59.440 You're banned from the show. Obviously you're not, stop listening to the show with that kind 1.00

00:46:07.100 of weak sauce. Grow, grow a beard, give it, give it three weeks and then you'll be allowed to listen

00:46:11.800 to the show again. Um, Matt, you're so wrong. Each Lord of the Rings movie is three and a half hours

00:46:19.460 long or longer. And that's more than justified, but I'll concede that no other movie has any right

00:46:24.040 to be that long. A lot of comments about this too saying, you know, I said no movie should be three

00:46:27.280 and a half hours long, like the brutalist that awful movie was. And, uh, a few attempts to, to give,

00:46:33.380 to come up with exceptions to the rule. And Lord of the Rings was, was mentioned by several people.

00:46:38.100 Uh, sorry, not only is Lord of the Rings not an exception, but it's actually, uh, a perfect example

00:46:44.180 of what I'm talking about. Okay. So let's just take Return of the King, which I think was the longest

00:46:48.480 one of all three movies. And I liked those movies by the way, but the theatrical release, uh, the

00:46:56.040 theatrical release of Return of the King was, was about three and a half hours. It was about

00:46:59.320 what the brutalist is. And then there are all these extended cuts that are four and a half hours

00:47:03.980 long, which is just obscene. That's, that's offensive. I'm offended. Well, if I pick up the

00:47:08.860 Blu-ray, not that I watch Blu-ray anymore, but, and it says four and a half hours long, I'm offended by

00:47:12.960 that. That's, that's so insanely long. How would you, how do you, that you would dare even sell that,

00:47:19.760 that you would put that on the shelf for anyone to watch four and a half hours. Um, so,

00:47:25.660 but no, let's just take three and a half hours. That was too long. That was way too long.

00:47:32.600 Okay. That you could have cut Return of the King. You could have cut at least 45 minutes

00:47:39.060 out of that movie, at least 45 minutes. And it would have been a better movie.

00:47:44.900 And if you cut 45 minutes, it's still a movie that's two, two hours and 45 minutes long. It's

00:47:49.740 still a long movie. I mean, two hours and 45 minutes is a long freaking movie. Um, so can you, 0.86

00:47:59.260 can you just cut it down from epic marathon length to very long? Can we just make that? It would be a

00:48:06.640 better movie. Um, quite infamously, the movie has three endings. Let's start with that. Just pick one.

00:48:13.220 You don't need three. Okay. Pick one ending. I mean, the movie really ends with, uh, Frodo and Sam

00:48:19.860 they're, you know, they're, they're stranded on the rock and the lava's all around. And then the,

00:48:24.680 the bird comes and picks them up. And as many people, so many people, of course, have pointed

00:48:28.480 out, and it is true. It's a major plot hole that, well, why didn't they just ride the bird to Mordor?

00:48:33.680 This movie, the it's, so we get between the three movies, we get like 12 hours of screen time.

00:48:39.260 It could have been, it could have been 30 minutes total. If they just hopped on the bird, go drop

00:48:43.740 the ring off in the, in the volcano or whatever, and they'd be fine. But, but fine. Uh, so the bird

00:48:50.280 picks them up and they're flying away on the bird into the sunset. You know, last shot, you've got the,

00:48:59.500 they're flying away from, you get the, the, the lava and everything and Mordor is collapsing.

00:49:03.740 And, but then you see them on the bird and they're going off into the distance and you see it's green

00:49:07.780 and green pastures ahead. And it's a, it's a, it's a great closing shot. And it, it kind of,

00:49:12.920 it tells you everything you need to know. We don't need to then see, oh, now he's laying in bed

00:49:17.980 and he's meeting, he sees his friends again and he's happy and he's jumping on the bed and hugging

00:49:22.500 them. Like, I know that that's going to happen. I don't need to actually see it. Uh, and then we get

00:49:28.360 another scene where everybody is, uh, congratulating Frodo again. We get like five scenes after the end of

00:49:34.740 people congratulating Frodo, which again, we get it. And, and it's even more grating because Frodo

00:49:42.280 didn't even do a good job in the first place. He whined like a baby the entire time. And then he

00:49:49.600 tried to turn back at the last moment and not even do the job. And it only happened because Gollum

00:49:54.880 tackled him. So it's by accident, he actually completed the journey. And then we got to go through

00:49:59.560 45 minutes of just watching people kiss this guy's ass. It was a little bit, it's a little much. 1.00

00:50:03.700 It's a little much. Um, so you could have cut that and, uh, and you could have cut

00:50:08.520 from Return of the King. Uh, and this, this to me is, uh, a problem with the movie that almost

00:50:16.380 ruins it for me entirely is, uh, is the, the whole subplot of the ghost soldiers or whatever it was

00:50:24.500 where Aragorn goes and, uh, Aragorn goes and recruits these ghost soldiers, right? To go and fight the

00:50:32.760 big battle at the end. And, uh, you could have cut the whole thing with the ghost soldiers and

00:50:38.020 that would have saved you 40 minutes or so probably. Um, and then you, you, you, you lose

00:50:44.800 this massive plot hole, which is that the ghost soldiers show up halfway through the battle. I

00:50:50.640 don't know why they're late. And then they just go, it's pretty lame. You know, we get this great

00:50:55.100 battle scene and then the ghost soldiers show up and they just go through, they're like swarming

00:50:59.520 army ants and they easily kill everybody. They kill all the bad guys and the battle's over 0.86

00:51:04.180 and, and they're able to easily kill everyone because they're already dead. They're invincible, 0.98

00:51:09.640 right? They're these corporeal, uh, creatures that can't be harmed, can't be killed.

00:51:16.040 There's no stakes for them in the battle. They got literally nothing to lose. They're already dead.

00:51:20.960 Um, so why didn't you just get the ghost soldiers from the beginning?

00:51:24.020 You could have had the ghost soldiers fight every battle through all three movies.

00:51:29.680 They would have easily won. Again, the movie's over in an hour.

00:51:34.460 And then at the end of that, Aragorn is like, oh, you've proven yourself in battle. Ghost soldiers

00:51:40.660 be free now. How do they prove themselves? It required no courage for them to fight that battle.

00:51:46.240 They were already dead and they're hanging out in a cave somewhere for eternity.

00:51:51.580 So you did them a fate. I mean, they're, they're, they're bored to death, literally hanging out in

00:51:57.880 a cave, cave underground. You let them come up to the surface and fight a battle where they can't

00:52:05.500 lose. And somehow they've proven their mettle. They've proven their courage. And now they get the

00:52:10.600 curse lifted. And now the curse is lifted. They just disappear into nothingness. They become dust,

00:52:17.140 which is, I don't know what, what kind of, uh, reward that is. So anyway, um, now I have, I have

00:52:25.380 given, uh, I have complained about Lord of the Rings, uh, and it's, it has taken as long for me to

00:52:29.980 complain about it as the movie is, is also. So I've, so this has just, uh, been a total waste of

00:52:34.740 time. The question has everyone talking right now. What did you do last week? No idea why this is

00:52:39.600 causing so much drama, but, uh, well, here's what we did last week. The entire Daily Wire gang went back

00:52:45.000 to DC for Backstage Live at CPAC. Ben Shapiro and Christopher Ruffo broke huge news when they

00:52:50.180 leaked tapes exposing Department of Education contractors supporting sex tapes in schools.

00:52:54.860 Michael Knowles faced off against 25 LGBTQ plus trans activists in Jubilee's most explosive debate

00:53:01.000 yet. I released Clearing the Air, the behind the scenes look at the number one documentary of the

00:53:05.060 decade, Am I Racist? And that list is just to be compliant with Doge's asks. Uh, seems simple

00:53:10.260 enough. Don't miss a moment of the news, the shows, the entertainment, uh, that we have at

00:53:14.920 Daily Wire. Become a Daily Wire Plus member now at dailywire.com slash subscribe. Now let's get to

00:53:20.520 our daily cancellation. A few years ago, you might remember the national manhunt that took place after

00:53:31.180 a viral incident in the city of Lufkin, Texas, about 120 miles Northeast of Houston. A teenage girl

00:53:37.020 filmed herself removing a tub of Blue Bell ice cream from a grocery store freezer. And then on camera,

00:53:41.180 she licked the lid along with some of the ice cream before placing the whole tub back at the freezer

00:53:45.720 for someone else to find. And in response to this, Blue Bell, which is headquartered in Texas,

00:53:51.000 dispatched an emergency response team, which, uh, they, they have on, on, uh, on hot standby at all

00:53:56.220 times, just in case something like this were to ever happen. If there's a licking incident,

00:53:59.220 uh, they're there. And to their credit, Blue Bell quickly identified the store in question because of,

00:54:03.660 of course, their staff recognized the freezer from the storage. After all, they didn't become the number

00:54:08.720 to a vanilla ice cream brand in the country without a deep understanding of their local markets.

00:54:13.100 And then Blue Bell's people rushed inside the store like a SWAT team, removed all ice creams of the

00:54:17.900 same flavor that the woman licked in the video. For the record, the flavor was Tin Roof, which,

00:54:22.040 according to the New York Times, a highly detailed investigative report of the story features

00:54:25.240 vanilla ice cream with chocolate fudge swirl and roasted peanuts dipped in dark chocolate.

00:54:30.500 I don't know anyone who ever want to eat ice cream with peanuts in it, but that's a whole different

00:54:33.820 story. Meanwhile, doctors spoke to various media outlets about the dangers of consuming

00:54:38.680 Blue Bell ice cream that had someone else's saliva on top of it. And surprisingly, uh, not all the

00:54:43.980 news was bad. One doctor, for instance, claimed that the risk of infection was, quote, partly diminished

00:54:47.940 because of the ice cream's low temperature and high sugar content, since freezing could cause the

00:54:52.620 water and bacteria to freeze and expand, destroying the bacteria, and sugar could leach water out of the

00:54:57.680 bacteria, close quote. Now, eventually, mercifully, the saga ended when police caught the 17-year-old

00:55:03.060 responsible for this particular incident, although they didn't have much luck with the 10 million

00:55:07.500 copycats who sprang up. But as media attention subsided, as far as we know, the licking stopped,

00:55:13.120 at least we hope it did, and people went about their lives. Customers could buy Blue Bell ice cream

00:55:18.200 in peace without fear that somebody's saliva might be part of the ingredients. But there was one question

00:55:22.920 about that video that, uh, was never addressed, even though it's the most interesting part of the

00:55:29.120 whole thing. And that question is this, why did the teenage girl do that? Why exactly did she film

00:55:34.540 herself committing a crime and then upload the incriminating footage on the internet for everyone

00:55:39.340 to see? What psychological factors are involved in a decision like that? Is this something that's

00:55:45.060 more common among women? Or is it equal among the genders? And how can we stop young women or people 0.92

00:55:50.820 of any, uh, or young men from engaging in this kind of behavior for their good and the good of

00:55:56.080 everyone who wants to eat sanitary, unmolested ice cream? Well, unfortunately, despite the wall-to-wall

00:56:00.400 coverage, no one ever addressed that aspect of the whole situation. But this is a discussion

00:56:04.040 worth reopening today after a woman using the name Sarah Roberts uploaded perhaps the most

00:56:10.580 incriminating footage that has been posted on TikTok. Uh, this does not involve ice cream or anything

00:56:16.400 being licked, but this is kind of the Blue Bell licking incident times about a thousand. If the Blue

00:56:22.280 Bell licking incident resulted in a long-form New York Times article and segments on every major

00:56:27.160 television network, then this one deserves a primetime special of some kind. So behold, as

00:56:32.300 Sarah Roberts informs the world of two relevant pieces of information, neither of which advances

00:56:38.000 her own interests in any way. First, she declares that she wants Elon Musk to be murdered. And then 0.99

00:56:43.660 for good measure, she adds that she has not paid her taxes for the better part of a decade. Watch.

00:56:48.280 I promised myself I would avoid the news. But obviously I haven't. Um, here's my one thought. I

00:56:59.340 mean, I have many thoughts. Elon Musk. Like, we need to X him. And by X, I mean, formally known as

00:57:13.700 the assassination. And it's a warning from F.V.R. is going to F.V.R. is going to F.V.R. show up. I don't

00:57:21.760 arrest me. You don't have enough people to even investigate me at this point. I haven't filed my taxes

00:57:32.340 in like eight years. And yet, no one's got for me. So I'm going to say it. Let's assassinate some

00:57:45.120 other. Now, what's great about this clip, to the extent that anything this woman says can be 0.85

00:57:50.500 described as great, is that she starts by using coded language. She says that somebody needs to

00:57:55.240 X Elon Musk. And if you're not really paying attention, you might not get the message right

00:58:00.080 away, I guess, if that wasn't clear enough. After all, X is the name of the social media platform

00:58:05.000 Elon Musk owns. So maybe she means that everyone needs to reach out to Elon Musk on X and voice

00:58:11.120 their disapproval of his various political positions. Keeps it kind of vague. I mean, she makes the

00:58:15.780 throat cutting gesture. So that also makes it pretty clear. But in case it wasn't clear, within about

00:58:20.680 two seconds, she comes right out and says, by X him, I mean assassinate. So, you know, so much for

00:58:27.400 subtlety, I guess. Unfortunately for Sarah Roberts, in the end, she was probably a little too explicit 1.00

00:58:32.860 for her own good. The post went all over the internet in a matter of hours. And in response

00:58:36.640 to this video, Elon Musk posted the following message on X, quote, death threat and admission

00:58:41.100 of multiple counts of tax fraud. Then Musk tagged Ed Martin, the U.S. attorney for the District of

00:58:46.920 Columbia. And Martin, for his part, responded, quote, duly noted. Thanks for letting us know.

00:58:51.400 We'll put you in the system. Talk soon, ma'am. Hashtag no one is above the law.

00:58:55.420 So this is what's known as instant karma. And it's becoming a theme of the second Trump

00:58:59.860 administration. When things happen that are obviously wrong, very quickly they're being

00:59:03.560 corrected. That happened just the other day when Libs and TikTok posted this image on X.

00:59:08.280 And it shows a medical form that's being given to service members at a U.S. Air Force base. And as

00:59:12.220 you can see, it demands to know their gender identity and pronouns and so on. And one of the

00:59:16.800 possible gender identities is non-binary, but there's also an other option. So service members can fill in

00:59:21.340 the blank. Now, in any other administration, this would have been completely ignored by the

00:59:24.920 government. But that didn't happen this time. It's a clear violation of Trump's executive order

00:59:28.100 on gender identity. And the Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth, recognized that immediately. Within

00:59:32.100 24 hours, Hegseth responded, quote, all over it. And something similar happened last night when

00:59:37.160 Tulsi Gabbard fired 100 intelligence officials for participating in lewd and disturbing conversations

00:59:42.960 on the NSA's internal communication system. That was a story that City Journal and Chris

00:59:47.420 Dufro broke. It went viral. And within 24 hours, 24 hours later, there was a decisive response.

00:59:54.600 This kind of thing would have been unheard of just a few years ago. But now there's immediate

00:59:59.840 accountability. So in a sense, you know, the point is you can't blame Sarah Roberts for thinking that

01:00:06.740 no one would actually do anything about her video. In the federal government, this kind of

01:00:12.440 responsiveness isn't exactly the norm. That's why her video is a fantastic demonstration of the sheer 0.73

01:00:18.000 entitlement and this kind of false sense of security on the left. They've been held to basically no

01:00:23.040 standard and lived lives free of consequence or accountability for years now. Up until a couple

01:00:28.980 of months ago, she could have actually made that video and made a death threat and admitted to tax evasion 1.00

01:00:35.620 and been relatively confident there'd be no repercussion. But the world is changing now.

01:00:41.980 For what it's worth, I went looking for Sarah Roberts' various social media accounts after all

01:00:45.140 this blew up. And it looks like she's either removed them or made them all private. So Sarah Roberts

01:00:48.700 seems to understand that this time around, maybe there will be consequences for her actions. But

01:00:52.860 I was able to see that the biography on one of her social media accounts appears to

01:00:57.400 have she, her, hers pronouns listed along with the message, I bless lives. In other words,

01:01:03.660 this is yet another instance of someone who repeats all the stock liberal mantras of peace and love

01:01:08.120 only to turn around and endorse the idea of murder and tax fraud. But the larger point is that these

01:01:16.300 kinds of videos are always to me, you know, a fascinating study of human psychology. Again,

01:01:24.100 I circle back to my original question, which is why post something like this? What's the win here?

01:01:31.000 Okay? It's an extremely incriminating video that can achieve nothing but making your own life worse.

01:01:39.960 There's no world, even a few years ago, if you post this video, there's not any world where you

01:01:43.820 benefit from it. It can't make anything better. There's no win aside from a few likes and nods of

01:01:51.000 approval from random people on the internet. So that is, that's it. That's the win. For the sake of

01:01:55.580 that meager amount of social media clout, she will risk going to prison. It's amazing that a grown 1.00

01:02:02.700 adult woman would think that this is a trade worth making. But Sarah Roberts did think this

01:02:08.440 was a trade worth making. And as a result, right now, she has about eight years of tax payments to 0.55

01:02:12.560 send into the federal government. And she has put me in a position for the first time in my career,

01:02:17.660 ever, probably, of rooting for the IRS to collect some tax money. And that is why, more than anything,

01:02:24.580 Sarah Roberts and every other leftist who broadcast their crimes on the internet,

01:02:28.200 on the assumption that nobody will ever do anything about it, are today canceled.

01:02:32.900 That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.

01:02:34.760 Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.

01:02:36.540 Thanks for listening.

The Matt Walsh Show - February 26, 2025

Ep. 1544 - Criminals Are Taking Control Over Our Prisons And Nothing Is Being Done

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