The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1552 - Don’t Listen To The Emotional Blackmail Arguments Against Pardoning Derek Chauvin

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, some conservatives are condemning the movement to pardon Derek Chauvin.

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00:02:10.700 A couple of months ago, we discussed, once again, the travesty of justice that was the murder trial

00:02:16.120 of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin. This was a trial that was conducted just down the

00:02:20.720 street from ground zero of the BLM riots of 2020, which destroyed Minneapolis' police precinct,

00:02:26.200 caused $500 million in damage to more than 1,500 businesses, and resulted in several deaths as well.

00:02:32.740 We're talking about the single most destructive riot in United States history after the Los Angeles

00:02:36.760 riots of 1992. And it happened in the same place where Derek Chauvin's trial was being held. But the

00:02:42.420 judge, who later declared that every case is about racial justice in some way, didn't move the trial

00:02:48.340 to a different venue. Instead, he made sure that Chauvin's fate was determined by jurors who knew well that

00:02:53.660 their city would burn to the ground if they didn't convict. They had security fencing and National Guard

00:02:58.600 troops all around the courthouse throughout the trial, just in case the message wasn't clear enough.

00:03:03.240 And those jurors did exactly what you'd expect them to do under those circumstances.

00:03:06.340 They convicted Chauvin without even addressing the question of whether he actually killed George

00:03:10.720 Floyd. And the jurors admitted it on CNN. They simply decided that Chauvin didn't express enough

00:03:16.000 concern for Floyd's well-being. That's how they rationalized their decision. For their part,

00:03:21.680 prosecutors repeatedly lied to the jury about the level of fentanyl in Floyd's system at the time of

00:03:26.760 his death. Specifically, prosecutors compared blood samples taken from Floyd before he was pronounced

00:03:31.840 dead to samples taken from overdose victims long after their deaths. And they pulled this off without

00:03:37.300 anyone on the defense team even noticing it somehow. Their goal was clear. They wanted to downplay the

00:03:43.080 sheer amount of fentanyl in Floyd's system, which was well over a lethal dose. And that's why Floyd kept

00:03:48.840 telling police officers that he couldn't breathe long before he was lying on the ground. It's also why Floyd

00:03:54.560 was violently resisting arrest, which is why Chauvin had to restrain him on the ground, as he was trained

00:04:00.280 to do. Now, that's not even getting into the evidence of Floyd's heart tumor, which was withheld

00:04:04.700 from Chauvin by his attorney. After Chauvin's state conviction, federal prosecutors from the Biden

00:04:09.480 administration pursued additional charges on the theory that Chauvin had deliberately violated

00:04:14.740 George Floyd's civil rights. This case was somehow even more absurd than the original murder trial.

00:04:20.920 It hinged on the theory that Chauvin had made the conscious decision to abuse his authority to harm

00:04:26.940 George Floyd, even though he knew that like 20 people were recording him. But Chauvin signed off

00:04:32.020 on a guilty plea to these federal charges for two reasons, most likely. First of all, it wouldn't mean

00:04:38.300 any additional prison time. His sentence would run concurrently with his state sentence. And secondly,

00:04:43.900 Chauvin would be transferred to a federal prison, which are generally much safer and better run

00:04:48.320 than state prisons. So in other words, no serious person sees this guilty plea as an actual admission

00:04:54.740 of guilt. Chauvin was clearly making the best of what seemed to be a hopeless situation. But in a

00:05:00.980 matter of months, all of this logic, as reasonable as it seemed at the time, would fall apart. For one

00:05:06.260 thing, Chauvin was stabbed 22 times in the law library of a federal prison in Arizona. So the safety

00:05:12.120 justification for taking the plea deal, you know, wasn't very compelling in retrospect. And additionally,

00:05:18.340 Chauvin learned about George Floyd's heart condition, information that was being withheld

00:05:21.920 from him at the time that he signed the guilty plea. He learned about that after the fact. And more

00:05:27.160 generally, Chauvin's situation no longer seems hopeless because the broader political environment

00:05:32.140 has changed. You know, another victim of mob justice, Daniel Perry in Texas, received a pardon after

00:05:39.120 he was convicted for defending himself from the BLM mob. And then Donald Trump was elected, promising 0.69

00:05:43.900 full pardons for January 6th defendants. And then yet another victim of mob justice, Daniel Penny,

00:05:50.300 was acquitted in New York. So given this background, you can see why Derek Chauvin has been fighting to

00:05:57.340 have his federal guilty plea overturned. It's an important step towards his ultimate goal of vacating

00:06:02.800 his state murder conviction. Once the federal case is gone, then prosecutors can no longer use

00:06:08.680 Chauvin's admission of guilt, which was obviously coerced against him. And additionally, Chauvin would

00:06:14.480 probably be released from prison about two years earlier if the federal sentence was vacated because

00:06:19.380 of rules about how federal prisoners need to serve out most of their sentences. Despite the obvious

00:06:25.060 injustices that Chauvin has endured throughout this process, he hasn't had a lot of major voices lining up

00:06:31.540 behind him with a specific practical plan of action. But last week, as you may have seen,

00:06:38.540 that started to change. Ben Shapiro launched an effort to have Chauvin's federal conviction pardoned

00:06:43.300 by Donald Trump. And even aside from the more tangible benefits this might have for Chauvin,

00:06:47.960 for example, getting him out of prison a few years earlier, a presidential pardon would also be a major

00:06:52.500 step towards clearing Chauvin's name and rejecting the central fraudulent BLM narrative that has done so much

00:06:59.120 damage to this country in recent years. And even if the pardon never happens, it's still good to

00:07:03.840 advocate for one. You know, it helps Chauvin to have people vocally supporting him, and it helps the

00:07:09.600 country to have people repudiating the BLM narrative once and for all. But not all conservative commentators

00:07:16.360 are on board with this idea. Yes, there are conservatives arguing against a presidential pardon for Derek

00:07:22.280 Chauvin, who was clearly convicted in violation of his constitutional right to a fair trial.

00:07:26.580 This is a man who was offered up as a sacrificial lamb on the altar of racial justice. He was sent to

00:07:32.240 prison as a human sacrifice because the mob demanded that somebody has to pay for the fact

00:07:37.640 that a violent career criminal overdosed on fentanyl. And yet there are conservatives

00:07:41.940 arguing that we should allow this injustice to stand. We should sit with our mouths shut as the

00:07:49.940 sacrificial lamb is burned at the altar. So I'm going to go through all of their arguments one by one.

00:07:55.860 Because this is an issue that implicates both the criminal justice system and the state of the

00:08:01.220 conservative movement. And we'll start with the alleged conservative commentator Rob Smith

00:08:05.520 and his analysis of the move to pardon Chauvin on the PBD podcast the other day. Listen to this.

00:08:14.800 There is absolutely nothing beneficial that pardoning Chauvin would do for the Trump administration,

00:08:21.540 for this country, for race relations, for anybody else. It is absolutely destructive. It makes no 1.00

00:08:27.600 sense. And so for me, when I first saw this, generally conversations that happen come from the

00:08:34.020 ground up. Usually there's some sort of murmuring under and then it kind of like bubbles up and then it

00:08:39.120 becomes a national conversation. This seems to be a very top-down conversation that comes from

00:08:44.980 somebody with an enormous amount of influence. This is nothing that anybody was talking about or

00:08:49.760 thinking about. So it really makes me question, why is this conversation happening right now? It

00:08:54.380 makes me question, why did Ben Shapiro want to start this conversation right now? Who does this

00:08:59.800 benefit? Doesn't benefit Trump. Doesn't benefit America. Doesn't benefit race relations. It doesn't

00:09:04.940 benefit anything. Now, before I play the rest of the clip, notice what his priorities are.

00:09:10.380 He's primarily concerned about race relations, as if that's somehow a justification for letting a 0.98

00:09:15.040 fraudulent criminal conviction remain on a man's record. He says it wouldn't benefit America to

00:09:21.180 pardon a man who's clearly innocent. He also claims that it would somehow hurt Donald Trump,

00:09:26.000 who just pardoned every single January 6th defendant because he understands how corrupt our criminal

00:09:30.320 justice system has become. And there were a lot of people saying that Trump shouldn't pardon

00:09:33.740 the January 6th defendants because the left would be really mad if we did that and they'd start

00:09:37.920 breaking things. And yet Trump did it anyway and it was fine. But as Rob goes on, his argument gets

00:09:44.440 even more embarrassing. So let's keep listening. There are very few people that can actually really

00:09:51.640 speak to in depth what was going on in that trial, how George Floyd actually died, et cetera, et cetera.

00:09:58.720 There is probably five people that have spent the bulk of their day on a podcast set every single

00:10:04.400 day, like Ben Shapiro, like maybe two or three other people that can really talk to you in depth

00:10:09.440 about this. So then they're positioning themselves to say, no, listen to me. I'm the one who really

00:10:14.920 knows about this. So what? Trump's agenda is supposed to be derailed. Where we're at as a country right

00:10:20.340 now is supposed to be derailed because these leftists and these Democrats are looking for a reason

00:10:25.020 to have another race war. That is what they love. So why this conversation is happening right now, 0.52

00:10:30.900 I have no idea. So you're not for it at all? No, I am not. Now, what Rob is saying here is pitiful

00:10:39.320 and wrongheaded in the extreme. Arguing that we should let an injustice stand because the BLM mob will be mad 0.97

00:10:47.440 if we don't is repugnant, loathsome, stupid nonsense. It's exactly the sort of pathetic, 1.00

00:10:55.500 scared, gutless, limp-wristed mindset that allowed the mob to burn down cities and run roughshod over 1.00

00:11:02.840 the culture for years. George Floyd was a violent, drug-addicted criminal who died because he took a

00:11:10.400 lethal dose of fentanyl and then resisted arrest. That is a fact. Look at the autopsy. He had a lethal

00:11:17.600 dose of a poison in his system and he died, as you tend to do when you poison yourself.

00:11:25.040 I don't care if it causes racial strife to speak this truth. Oh, don't say it. It might cause racial

00:11:30.960 strife. So be it in that case. Anyone who plays this emotional blackmail game is not worth listening to.

00:11:39.540 Okay, we've seen what happens when we allow the left-wing narrative to run unopposed,

00:11:44.720 all for the sake of avoiding strife. What happens is the left wins everything, we lose everything,

00:11:52.300 and we end up with a whole lot more strife than we would have had if we had just spoken up to begin

00:11:57.300 with. Derek Chauvin is an innocent man. Rob can pretend that only five podcasters have the knowledge

00:12:05.760 of the trial to make a statement like that, but it's not true. And by the way, if it is true,

00:12:09.540 like his argument is that Ben is one of the very few people who knows this case,

00:12:14.220 and so therefore we shouldn't listen to him. Like that's not even true. There are a lot of people

00:12:19.480 that know the case, but if what Rob is saying is true, like what kind of argument is that?

00:12:23.800 You're saying that you don't know anything about the case, because I assume you're not in the five.

00:12:28.000 There are five podcasters who know something about the case. You're not among them. And yet,

00:12:32.160 so if that's true, Rob, then you should probably shut up and let the people who know something about it

00:12:37.140 do the talking if you don't know anything about it. But as it turns out, anybody with a passing

00:12:43.340 interest in the facts of this case understands what a travesty this trial was. Like millions,

00:12:48.080 not five. There's not five people who know. There's like millions, okay? Now, Rob, you may

00:12:54.520 not understand. You may be clueless, but don't project your cluelessness onto the rest of us.

00:13:00.400 Okay, you don't put an innocent man in prison to avoid racial strife. In fact,

00:13:06.180 again, it only causes more, as we've seen. Okay, to reiterate, we have all seen what happens when

00:13:13.620 you let falsehoods, injustices, and moral insanity stand just for the sake of appeasing the left-wing

00:13:20.480 mob. Conservatives tried that approach for decades. That's how we got BLM to begin with.

00:13:26.560 But Rob is not the only conservative who's taking this approach, unfortunately. Somebody named J.D.

00:13:34.260 Sharp, just as one example. There were a lot of comments on X to this effect, but here's just one.

00:13:41.300 He responded to me and said, quote,

00:13:44.440 I know a pardon of Chauvin will result in the biggest black influencer campaign ever and will 1.00

00:13:48.940 likely lead to a domestic race war worse than 2020, which will then lead to martial law and a

00:13:53.840 totalitarian government controlled by artificial superintelligence. Can you imagine? Pardoning

00:13:59.660 Derek Chauvin will lead to the biggest black influencer campaign ever. Don't want to do it. 1.00

00:14:04.300 The black influencers will be mad. Let's leave the innocent man in jail, okay, because otherwise the 1.00

00:14:10.920 black influencers might be upset about it. But that will then lead immediately to a sci-fi dystopia and 0.96

00:14:19.140 the enslavement of mankind. So you start with black influencers and next thing you know, we're 1.00

00:14:23.060 enslaved by robots. Now, how exactly does all that work? Well, fortunately, we have J.D. to explain.

00:14:29.360 He adds, quote, quote, my full position is pardoning Chauvin will result in a massive social media

00:14:35.540 influencer campaign led by Stephen A. Smith that leads to his presidential campaign run, which will

00:14:41.080 lead to the closest thing to a racially driven civil war we've ever had that will include actual

00:14:45.540 domestic bloodshed and very well could turn into martial law just as the most powerful population 0.99

00:14:50.040 control tool, artificial superintelligence is arriving, close quote. Yes, he's claiming that

00:14:56.660 Stephen A. Smith could be the Democrats nominee if Trump pardons Derek Chauvin, which is probably the

00:15:02.300 single best argument for pardoning Derek Chauvin. Yes, let Stephen A. Smith be their guy. Please,

00:15:09.500 dear God, Democrats, please do that. It would be a bigger blowout than Nixon in 1972. But we're 0.96

00:15:15.780 supposed to fear this outcome, apparently, because we'll have a racially driven civil war. Now, of

00:15:20.700 course, that's nonsense. Okay, a Chauvin pardon, especially one that doesn't even free him from

00:15:25.300 prison, would not lead to widespread rioting like we saw in 2020. We've seen with the Daniel Penny

00:15:31.420 acquittal, you know, and the pardon of Daniel Perry in Texas that BLM is demoralized and ineffective

00:15:37.440 now. And they've also lost all of their funding. And the reason, and that's why the riots aren't

00:15:43.240 happening, because the people pulling the strings realize that race riots hurt their agenda. They 0.91

00:15:50.340 hurt the agenda that they were supposed to be helping. Okay. But even if riots did result from

00:15:56.400 a pardon, that would only make the public despise Democrats more than they already do. That's the

00:16:04.260 most confusing thing about this argument. Oh, it might cause, it might cause riots and then,

00:16:08.440 and then it'll hurt the conservative political agenda. That would hurt the Democrats. Have you

00:16:15.440 not been paying attention? Have you been in a cave for the last five years? This all destroyed the

00:16:23.560 Democrat party. Did you not notice that? The rioting, the woke madness, it destroyed the Democrats.

00:16:29.860 They are in ruins right now because of it. And your fear is that they'll start it again and destroy

00:16:35.840 themselves more? Okay. Another round of BLM mass rioting would be a political catastrophe for the 0.60

00:16:45.220 Democrats. A catastrophe for them. If I were really cynical, you know what I'd say? I'd say pardon

00:16:51.140 Chauvin just so that it drives the left deeper into madness and further from the mainstream.

00:16:56.720 But I'm not saying that. I'm saying do it because it's the right thing to do. It just so happens

00:17:03.120 that the right thing and the politically smart thing are one and the same in this case.

00:17:09.500 Again, though, many, many conservatives disagree. So here's another person expressing the

00:17:17.660 disagreement. This is Delano Squares. Watch.

00:17:20.720 My perspective, I'm making a more substantive point, right? Which is I want somebody to tell

00:17:26.500 me why they think Derek Chauvin deserves a pardon. And I know exactly where people are going to go,

00:17:30.720 but they're going to say, oh, George Floyd died of an overdose. And yes, he did have drugs in the

00:17:35.960 system. And yes, he was saying, you know, I can't breathe long before Derek Chauvin arrived on the

00:17:41.800 scene. But he didn't die until Derek Chauvin arrived on the scene and knelt on him, his neck,

00:17:47.960 back shoulder area, whatever, however you want to sort of characterize that for the better part of

00:17:53.660 nine minutes. So it's to me, it's this is not something where I'm saying, oh, this is such a

00:17:59.820 clear miscarriage of justice. And I think I have a different substantive point on this than than

00:18:05.960 many conservatives. Now, this is a textbook post hoc fallacy. When you look at the timing of events

00:18:12.680 and determine causation solely from that. So he concedes that Floyd had enough fentanyl to kill

00:18:17.720 a horse in his system. But because Floyd didn't die until after Chauvin restrained him, he's

00:18:22.260 concluding that Chauvin must be the cause. Nevermind the fact that Floyd didn't actually die on the

00:18:27.400 street based on the government's own autopsy report. Nevermind the fact that the coroner didn't

00:18:32.420 find any serious physical injury to Floyd's body whatsoever. Nevermind the fact that Floyd couldn't

00:18:37.360 breathe while he was still in the squad car. With the post hoc fallacy, all that matters is the order

00:18:43.340 of events. Now, for his part, Jason Whitlock responded to Ben Shapiro's call for a pardon,

00:18:48.840 as well as my own posts on the subject. So let's start with his general thoughts about it. Here it is.

00:18:54.700 Yeah, I think without question, there doesn't seem to be logical, rational fault behind this.

00:19:03.900 Because if the man is going to get a pardon, it needs to be in the state courts. And it needs to

00:19:14.100 come from the governor if they really are looking for relief. Because first of all, let's say they did

00:19:23.320 pardon him on the federal charges. Now he goes to state prison with far more violent criminals.

00:19:29.880 His life is far more in jeopardy in a state prison.

00:19:34.840 Now, I'll say I have no issue with the people arguing against the Chauvin pardon on technical

00:19:40.100 grounds. The point that a federal pardon would actually hurt him because it would just land

00:19:43.920 him in state prison instead of federal prison is reasonable. Now, it's a reasonable point of view.

00:19:49.000 If Trump decided against the pardon for that reason, it's understandable. If Chauvin himself didn't

00:19:53.160 want the pardon for that reason, that would obviously be reason enough to not do it.

00:19:57.040 Although, for the record, as I alluded to earlier, it's not necessarily true that Chauvin would end

00:20:02.000 up in state prison after a pardon. And it's not clear that a pardon would have no practical effect

00:20:06.320 otherwise. It's also not clear that a federal prison is safer for Chauvin. He got stabbed in

00:20:10.720 federal prison. But as CNN has conceded, quote, Jane Ann Murray, a University of Minnesota criminal

00:20:17.700 law associate professor who specializes in sentencing, said that inmates such as Chauvin,

00:20:21.720 who might need additional security, still might be allowed to remain in federal prison to serve

00:20:25.940 a state sentence. Okay, so he could actually get pardoned for the federal crime and yet remain

00:20:33.080 in federal prison. So that's an important point here. Additionally, CNN reports that, quote,

00:20:37.520 if Chauvin were to receive a federal pardon, he could end up spending less time incarcerated

00:20:40.920 than he would have, even though the state sentence is slightly longer than the federal sentence. The

00:20:44.880 reason, prisoners are often required to serve a greater portion of federal sentences than state

00:20:49.960 sentences and prisoners sentenced after 1987 are ineligible for federal parole. Again, Chauvin

00:20:57.960 himself tried to vacate his federal conviction. Okay, so that seems to indicate that he thinks it would

00:21:03.980 benefit him to get rid of the federal conviction. He tried to get them to get rid of it. Regardless,

00:21:09.280 from what I can tell, Jason Whitlock's primary argument against the pardon is actually more about

00:21:14.220 the politics of the situation. For example, he posted on X, quote, what's going on here? This

00:21:19.520 seems out of nowhere from the Daily Wire, given the fact that it's separated from Candace Owens.

00:21:23.380 If Trump took this on right now, it would sabotage and overshadow other agendas. I believe Chauvin

00:21:28.160 was wrongly convicted, but the timing of this campaign seems out of place. And Whitlock went on to make a

00:21:34.300 similar argument on his show. Watch. Matt Walsh on Wednesday morning, I guess from the Daily, he is

00:21:42.200 from the Daily Wire, I guess. He actually gave a substantive response to my question about, hey,

00:21:47.900 what's going on here? Matt Walsh says that he totally disagrees with me. Trump has all the momentum right

00:21:53.620 now, which makes it a perfect time to pardon Chauvin. If Dems react to it by further glorifying and

00:22:00.520 worshiping Fentanyl Floyd, all the better. Let them do it. That's a losing proposition for them

00:22:06.440 politically. Also, pardoning Chauvin is just simply the right thing to do. Trump is not the kind of man

00:22:11.620 who refrains from doing the right thing because of how it might look. Here's my problem with that,

00:22:17.700 and obviously I have a lot of respect for Matt Walsh. This is all political. This isn't about seeking

00:22:25.020 justice. Hey, Trump's got the momentum, and if Dems react, blah, blah, blah. And maybe that's just a

00:22:31.100 response to what I said, like, hey, man, Trump would sabotage his whole agenda, and we'd spend the next

00:22:37.740 month, two months, talking about Derek Chauvin and a pardon and re-litigating George Floyd.

00:22:45.180 And the man's only 45 days into his second presidency, and I guess I'm arguing there's more

00:22:51.560 important things to do, and there's a smarter way to go about it. If you believe Derek Chauvin's been

00:22:57.700 wrongfully convicted, there's a smarter, more effective way to go about this rather than

00:23:02.680 sabotaging Trump's agenda and policy deals. Now, I like Jason. I enjoy his work. I respect him. But

00:23:12.960 I must say that this is where the argument starts to come across as a bit disingenuous. Again, if you

00:23:20.200 want to say that a pardon wouldn't have much practical effect, that's one thing. Reasonable

00:23:24.900 people can disagree on that. Or if you want to say that it's actually worse for Chauvin to get

00:23:30.440 pardoned, then again, that's a reasonable argument. I'm not convinced by it, but it's a reasonable

00:23:38.220 argument. But what we're getting here is something else entirely. Whitlock has stated repeatedly that

00:23:42.940 he believes Chauvin didn't receive a fair trial. He believes the conviction should be overturned.

00:23:47.380 If that's your belief, and it happens to be the correct belief, then saying now's not the time

00:23:51.860 for a pardon is a dodge. If now is not the time, when is the time? If it's true that pardoning him

00:24:01.220 would be politically disastrous, should we do it closer to the midterms? Should we do it when the

00:24:06.620 2028 campaign is in full swing? Should we just never do it and say, sorry, Chauvin, you were wrongfully

00:24:13.380 convicted, but too bad. If it's politically unpopular but right to do, now is precisely the

00:24:22.360 time to do it. When you're as far from the next elections as you're going to get. If it's politically

00:24:29.720 popular and also right, now is still the time to do it. If it's the wrong thing to do in principle,

00:24:35.020 then there is no right time, right? Whichever is the case, now is not the time is the kind of thing

00:24:40.380 you say if you don't want to say what you really think. And in this case, I think that there are

00:24:47.060 some conservatives using the now is not the time dodge because they actually agree with the BLM

00:24:52.660 narrative about the case, but they don't want to say that. And then there are other commentators who

00:24:58.020 disagree with the BLM narrative and would actually like to see Chauvin pardoned, but they don't want

00:25:03.100 to agree with Ben Shapiro or give him any credits. So they're finding a reason to object. Okay.

00:25:09.480 Also, again, for the record, the call to pardon Chauvin is not out of nowhere as Whitlock and others

00:25:15.040 have claimed. I have personally been calling for a pardon from the moment Trump was elected. I've

00:25:20.080 been defending Chauvin since before he was on trial. I've called out the BLM false narrative on the

00:25:24.780 George Floyd case from the very beginning. And I will continue to do so while advocating for a full

00:25:30.960 federal pardon. That's because there is no question that a pardon is morally the correct course of

00:25:37.540 action in this case. I also think it's probably the correct course of action tactically. Chauvin is

00:25:42.960 an innocent man who was offered up for the slaughter in the name of racial justice. His continued 0.90

00:25:46.820 incarceration is a national disgrace. Should we re-litigate the Floyd case? You're damn right we

00:25:53.620 should re-litigate it. Yes. Should we re-litigate that moment of mass hysteria that killed dozens of 0.54

00:26:04.560 people and caused billions of dollars of damage, put an innocent man in prison? Should we re-litigate?

00:26:10.840 If the other option is just to pretend it never happened, which is what the left and the Democrats

00:26:14.700 want, then yeah, you're damn right we should re-litigate it. I think there's not enough re-litigating

00:26:21.000 going on. Okay, I think a lot of evil people were able to do horrible things and they're just a lot

00:26:26.620 we're just pretending it never happened. Whether it's whether it's COVID or BLM, Floyd, the trans, you

00:26:33.720 know, trans stuff, you know, castrating kids. I mean, there's a lot of, there needs to be more 1.00

00:26:41.880 re-litigating of all of that because the other option is just to let all the people did all those

00:26:45.640 terrible things. Well, you know, no harm, no foul, except that there was a lot of harm

00:26:50.880 and they need to be held accountable for it. So the first step is to nullify Chauvin's conviction

00:27:00.360 with a pardon that will get Chauvin out of prison several years earlier at a minimum.

00:27:05.320 Anything that gets us closer to the day when Derek Chauvin is free, joining the ranks of Daniel Penny

00:27:09.420 and Daniel Perry and Kyle Rittenhouse and many other victims of the BLM mob is something that

00:27:14.860 every conservative should support. That's the best course of action for Derek Chauvin. It's the best

00:27:19.360 course of action to ensure that no innocent man has to endure what he did ever again.

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00:29:02.640 that are making the rounds on X right now and have a lot of people talking. I want to talk about

00:29:07.640 some of them. The NBC affiliate in Austin reports on a new law currently being debated in the state.

00:29:14.400 It reports, lawmakers are bringing back an effort to create consequences for any public library in

00:29:18.840 Texas that hosts a children's reading event led by a drag performer reviving legislation that failed to

00:29:24.140 pass during the last legislative session. The Senate Committee on State Affairs held a hearing today

00:29:28.600 to consider Senate Bill 18. The proposal's wording closely mirrors a similar piece of legislation you

00:29:33.460 brought forward during the 2023 session. The new bill proposes that a municipal library may not

00:29:39.900 receive state or other public funds if the library hosts an event at which a man presenting as a woman

00:29:44.580 or a woman presenting as a man reads a book or a story to a minor for entertainment and the person

00:29:49.340 being dressed as the opposite gender is a primary component of the entertainment. 1.00

00:29:52.760 So that's the law. Not everybody agrees with preventing cross-dressers from having 1.00

00:29:59.260 events for children in public libraries of course. The cross-dressers themselves certainly disagree

00:30:04.800 and one of them showed up to speak out against this bill. Here he is.

00:30:09.220 Hello, my name is Bridget Bandit and I'm speaking in opposition to SB 18. I'm a born and raised Texan and

00:30:15.920 full-time drag queen. Previously, I've worked with children throughout my life as a swim instructor,

00:30:21.140 teaching summer art camps, hosting children's birthday parties, and volunteering in my church

00:30:26.480 as a youth group leader. Today, I occasionally host drag queen story times. These kinds of events

00:30:32.220 don't differ much from the kind of work I did before, yet this bill would impact my ability

00:30:36.700 to work with children simply based on a subjective and ill-defined expectation of how I should look.

00:30:43.120 Now, if you're listening to the audio podcast and you would have missed the visuals, the person

00:30:49.040 speaking is dressed in drag as he addresses the Texas State Senate. So you can fill in the blanks

00:30:54.960 in your mind. He looks exactly as you would expect him to look, which is like the evil stepmother in a

00:31:00.940 Tim Burton reimagining of Cinderella, which is what all drag queens look like for some reason. 1.00

00:31:05.140 I don't know why, but they all seem to love the Tim Burton aesthetic. They watched Nightmare Before

00:31:11.440 Christmas and then thought that they would make that into their entire personality. He says that

00:31:16.620 this bill would prevent him from working with children. That's the key line there. And yes,

00:31:23.560 yes, sir, that is the point. That's the point, yes. The lack of self-awareness with these people

00:31:30.720 is, as always, incredible. If I didn't know any better, I would think that he was hired by

00:31:36.080 Republicans to show up there. Now, I know that didn't happen because Republicans are not clever

00:31:40.560 enough to use a strategy like this, but he may as well be advocating for the bill. Coming out dressed

00:31:48.000 like that and saying, but this means that I can't work with kids. That's the best possible way to

00:31:53.360 advocate for the bill. Coming out and saying, but wait, if this bill passes, the creepiest human being

00:32:00.320 you've ever seen in your life won't have access to your children, that is, again, a very good argument

00:32:06.460 for the bill. I also like how he says that the bill is based on an ill-defined expectation of how

00:32:13.320 he should look. But I don't think it is ill-defined at all. I think it's not only pretty clear, but also

00:32:22.680 not a very onerous guideline. How should you look if you want to work with kids? Well, not like that.

00:32:32.940 Just don't look like that. You can look almost any other way. Just don't look like that.

00:32:39.060 Don't go out of your way to look like you look right there. Go to a men's section in any clothing 0.97

00:32:51.700 store in America and pick any outfit you want, and it will almost certainly be fine. Just don't look

00:33:02.420 like that. Okay, there are 90 million options for what you can wear. You've chosen the one thing

00:33:13.220 that you should not wear. And keep in mind, none of these bills would actually stop any drag queen 0.98

00:33:19.260 from reading to kids at the library or working with them in school or anything like that. Because

00:33:24.200 it's not like every drag queen is being put on a registry and prevented from being around kids ever

00:33:29.240 again. Now, I mean, I'd be very interested in talking about a bill like that. We could look at a

00:33:34.420 piece of legislation like that. I think there's a lot to be said for it. But that's not what any of

00:33:38.980 these bills are doing. That guy in the clip, he can still go do a story time for kids. Just don't do it

00:33:47.360 when you're dressed like that. Dress normal. Be a normal person and go read to kids. The law is not

00:33:54.740 going to stop you. So what he's actually saying, what all these drag queens are actually saying,

00:34:00.780 is that if they can't wear women's clothes while they work with kids, then it's not worth working 1.00

00:34:08.240 with kids. A prerequisite for them to work with kids is that they get to cross-dress at the same time. 0.95

00:34:15.140 You know, so just think about that. You've got a man dressed in women's clothes and we're saying to 1.00

00:34:24.100 him, oh, can you not wear that when you're working with the kids? And then he goes, well, if I can't

00:34:33.020 wear this, then never mind. Then there's no point. Just think about that for a second. You're saying

00:34:39.320 there's no point in you even being around kids or working with them or reading stories to them

00:34:44.760 if you can't wear women's clothes while you do it. Why is that? What is the point then? 0.89

00:34:54.160 Can you elaborate a bit more? This is what I've always said about these people. Throw the burden

00:35:02.240 back on them. Tell us exactly why it's so important to you that little kids see you in women's clothes. 0.73

00:35:13.620 Why is that so important to you? Why can't you just wear normal stuff, just wear a normal shirt

00:35:19.620 and pants and go read the story? Well, there is an explanation for that, but it's one that they

00:35:28.240 don't want to say out loud. Okay, here's one of the more repulsive things that we've heard on CNN

00:35:33.660 in at least the last few days. Let's listen to this. The person who's watching, who just heard you say

00:35:39.620 Donald Trump is not standing up for Ukraine. What do you say to the person who says, well,

00:35:45.600 I don't care about Ukraine. I want Donald Trump to stand up for America. What do you say to them?

00:35:50.060 I don't know where you got that. I mean, I don't have time for it.

00:35:53.300 Yes, but we hear it. We hear it. Here's the thing. Where did you grow up? Did you grow up in a place

00:35:58.220 where you thought the Russians were the good guys? What part of America did you grow up in 0.98

00:36:01.660 where they taught you the Russians were the good guys and our allies were the bad guys? That's the

00:36:05.940 flip here that we need to continue to remind people. The Russians are the bad guys. They're 1.00

00:36:09.920 raping women. They're killing children. They're bombing cities. The Ukrainians are the noble good 1.00

00:36:14.000 guys. Some ways they're more American than we are over the last couple of years. And we must stand with

00:36:18.140 them in the same way we stood with the allies in World War II and since this country was founded. This is not just about

00:36:22.920 Ukraine. This is about the core and the integrity of American values. And that's what he's also betrayed.

00:36:28.780 Okay, first of all, before we get to the Ukrainians are more American than we are a bit,

00:36:34.500 you know, this guy is frustrated because he says not enough of us are accepting the narrative that the Russians

00:36:39.960 are the bad guys and the Ukrainians are the good guys. The Russians are the evil rapists and the Ukrainians 1.00

00:36:47.860 are noble heroes is what he said. And he's upset that more people aren't buying into that framing. 1.00

00:36:55.100 Here's the problem with that. Okay, I believe in moral absolutes. I believe in right and wrong.

00:37:01.780 I'm not one of those people who says everything is gray. There's no black and white.

00:37:05.560 I don't say that. But when it comes to disputes between people, I'm not talking about abstract moral questions.

00:37:16.340 Right? Is it right or wrong to commit murder? I'm not saying that. When it comes to disputes between people,

00:37:24.160 okay, it's very rarely as simple as good guy versus bad guy. It's very rarely that simple.

00:37:31.340 This is true when the dispute is between two individuals, right? A marriage falling apart,

00:37:38.860 two friends having a falling out, co-workers who hate each other, neighbors that are constantly feuding.

00:37:44.760 Whatever it is, in nearly all of these kinds of cases, your perception of the good guy or the bad guy

00:37:50.720 will depend entirely on whose version of the story you're hearing.

00:37:54.860 And the truth usually is somewhere in the middle, which is why we've all had the experience of

00:38:03.140 there's a dispute and we hear about it from one person in the dispute and we go,

00:38:08.980 oh, the other person is terrible. And then you have the occasion to talk to the other person

00:38:12.760 and they give you a whole other side of the story that you didn't know about.

00:38:16.160 Well, and now you're confused. Now your simplistic view of this dispute has been

00:38:22.860 exploded. And what you're left with is in this case, yeah, kind of a gray area.

00:38:30.500 Because most of the time when you've got disputes between people, both sides are at fault to some

00:38:36.260 extent. Not always. There are times when it's pretty clear cut, but most of the time,

00:38:41.580 you know, there's going to be blame to go around. It takes two to tango, whatever cliche you want.

00:38:51.400 Now, if this applies to disputes between individuals, all the more it applies to disputes

00:38:57.620 between nations. Again, there are exceptions to this. Sometimes the good guy, bad guy dynamic

00:39:03.680 is relatively cut and dry. Usually it isn't. It's pretty rare that you can look at a war and say

00:39:10.800 one side is noble and the other side is evil. It's not often that simple. Sometimes it can be.

00:39:18.180 It's not often that simple, especially when it's a longstanding conflict between nations. And this

00:39:22.860 is very clear. If you look at conflicts, it's difficult for us to judge this when it's a conflict

00:39:30.020 that where we have heard only one side of the story and there's a media campaign and a campaign by

00:39:38.520 all the most powerful institutions in the country to get us to see the dispute in a certain light.

00:39:47.160 But if you go look up, just take a conflict where you have no framing going into it. There isn't anyone

00:39:54.680 trying to frame it for you. And you're looking at it sort of objectively and without a lot of background.

00:39:59.520 Okay, so go look up some random conflict between warring factions in Africa somewhere.

00:40:06.640 Well, if you look up something like that and try to figure out who the good guy is,

00:40:10.780 it's not easy most of the time. And you'll quickly come to understand that the very question is sort

00:40:17.160 of childish. Who's the good guy? I mean, when you're looking objectively, you're like, you say,

00:40:21.900 well, this is like atrocities being committed by both sides. This is a dispute that goes back

00:40:25.840 hundreds of years. Like who knows who the good guy is here. So you should be very skeptical of anyone

00:40:33.960 who tells you that your view should be simplistic about something like this. And you should be even

00:40:40.180 more skeptical when he tells you that Ukrainians are more American than we are. Because that is 1.00

00:40:47.720 ridiculous drivel. That is abhorrent nonsense. Ukrainians are not more American than Americans. 1.00

00:40:54.720 Ukrainians are not American at all. As I've said many times, I have nothing against Ukraine or 1.00

00:40:59.740 Ukrainians. I wish them well. I truly do. I have nothing against them. No hard feelings. Not that

00:41:08.980 they care what my feelings are about them, but nothing against them. I care about Ukraine as much as they

00:41:16.040 care about me and my family and my country. That is precisely as much as I care about them.

00:41:24.180 How do Ukrainians feel about our country? Well, they see us as their piggy bank. We know that. 1.00

00:41:31.740 But aside from that, do they care about our country at all? Have they ever done anything to help us? Ever?

00:41:39.280 Ever? Has any Ukrainian ever made a single sacrifice for the sake of America? Ever? Ever? 0.99

00:41:48.580 No. No one all counts. They wish us well, I hope. But other than that, they're focused on their own

00:41:55.460 country. As they should be. They are not invested in America's future except as it directly impacts

00:42:03.020 them. And that's how I feel in return. That's how I feel about every other country.

00:42:10.480 I wish them all well. I wish all the people of the world well. I want everyone to be happy and

00:42:15.460 nothing bad to happen to anybody. That's what I would like. That's not how it works out, but that's

00:42:20.680 what I would like. But I am invested in the future of other countries only to the extent that it impacts

00:42:31.240 my country. Because I'm on my own country's side. Which is also why, you know, I said that disputes

00:42:40.760 between people and between nations are rarely very cut and dry. There's usually gray area. And that's

00:42:46.600 true. But it's easy for me to see that when I'm looking at conflicts between nations where my own

00:42:56.340 country isn't involved. I take my own country's side. For the same reason I take my family's side.

00:43:02.920 Even though I might recognize that, yeah, you know, there's some, if my brother is in a dispute with

00:43:07.220 somebody else, I'm on his side. And I can look at it objectively and say, okay, well, you know, you've

00:43:12.880 done some stuff that is wrong too. And I'll talk to him about that. I'd counsel him on that. I would

00:43:17.540 encourage him. But I'm on his side. There's no question about it. I'm not a neutral observer.

00:43:23.580 Right? Because that's my brother. And when it comes to my country, that's the way I look at it.

00:43:30.500 I'm on my countryside. But you notice what he's saying here. He's saying that Ukrainians are more

00:43:36.280 American than Americans because they allegedly value democracy and freedom, you know, and all of that.

00:43:42.300 Their value system makes them more American than we are. And I don't think he's right that they hold

00:43:47.920 these values more than we do. But even if he is, that is irrelevant. Because, and I need cable news

00:43:52.500 pundits to listen very carefully to this. Okay, this is really important that you understand this.

00:43:59.460 America is not a value system. It is a nation. You don't become American by adopting values.

00:44:09.160 We are a nation. We are a country. We are not an abstract set of ideas. We are actually a country,

00:44:17.280 country, just like Ukraine is. And Ukraine puts themselves first. I do the same for America.

00:44:26.400 And make no apologies about it. All right, before we get to the daily cancellation,

00:44:30.720 this is, well, we've seen enough of these kinds of videos. We don't need to see another one.

00:44:37.260 I certainly don't need to force you, force you, my beloved audience, to endure another one of these.

00:44:43.540 But the problem is that I endured it. I suffered through it. And I know that you,

00:44:47.400 as my beloved audience, would want to share in my suffering. I know that you would. That's the kind

00:44:52.180 of bond that we have. So really, I'm showing this to you because I know that deep down you want to see

00:44:57.220 it because I have. And so I regret to inform you that they're singing again. They won't stop.

00:45:05.380 They just won't. They won't stop. Can't stop. They refuse to stop. They should be stopped,

00:45:10.260 but they aren't. So they keep on singing. Left-wing protesters suffer from a kind of

00:45:16.740 musical Tourette syndrome. They just break out into song and they can't help it.

00:45:21.440 So now here is former NIH director Francis Collins singing at a rally at the Lincoln Memorial on Friday.

00:45:28.060 The point of the rally was, I don't know what, it was something about science. They're rallying to

00:45:33.500 defend science or something. But here it is.

00:45:38.960 Well, this is a song for all the good people, all the good people who are part of this family.

00:45:51.640 This is a song for all the good people.

00:45:55.900 We're joined together by this noble dream. Have you got that? So it's just all the good

00:46:04.620 people, but the second line, part of this family. And the last line, we're joined together by this

00:46:09.520 noble dream. Do that with me.

00:46:11.540 This is a song for all the good people who are part of this family. This is a song for all the good

00:46:26.340 people. We're joined together by this noble dream. Well, this is a song for all of those dreamers.

00:46:38.120 We're looking for answers to come our way. Scientists, doctors, students, all seekers. We share in the hopes for a much brighter day.

00:46:52.580 Come on now. Well, this is a song for all the good people, all the good people who are part of this family. This is a song for all the good people. We're joined together by this noble dream.

00:47:13.240 There you go. You know what? This actually ticks me off. It actually makes me angry when I watch videos like this. And not because it's a god-awful, hideously terrible song, although it is. Not because Francis Collins has the singing voice of a camel.

00:47:33.640 Not because the lyrics sound like a sixth-grader's creative writing assignment. Not because of any of that. I mean, all of that makes the listening experience very unpleasant.

00:47:43.500 The song is an atrocity. Don't get me wrong. It's a tragedy. Flag should be flying at half-mast for a week across the country because of this song.

00:47:51.080 But that's not it. I'll tell you what makes me mad. And actually, envious. Mad and envious. I'll be totally honest with you. It's the self-confidence of these people up there singing their awful songs.

00:48:05.300 I wish I had that insane level of self-confidence that they have. Imagine how happy these people must be. Imagine how blissfully happy Francis Collins is. I want to be that happy. Just no self-awareness at all.

00:48:21.680 Like, there are plenty of people who are actually good singers and yet would never sing in front of a crowd because they're self-conscious and they're unsure of themselves.

00:48:32.400 And yet, here is Francis Collins not only belting out this terrible song in his toad voice, but actually trying to get the crowd to sing along with it.

00:48:41.160 The arrogance. The arrogance of that. Nobody in the crowd has ever heard the song before because he made it up.

00:48:48.120 Yet, he's singing it and he's like, come on, everyone. Join in. Come on, people. Why aren't you singing? Because they don't know the words, Francis.

00:48:56.540 You wrote the words. They were not in your living room when you were practicing this song in front of your wife who encouraged you way more than she should have.

00:49:05.840 So, and yet here he is playing it proudly and trying to turn it into a sing-along. Totally confident. Blissfully, insanely confident. Undeserved confidence. That's what I want. I want that kind of confidence.

00:49:17.540 I want to be that sure of myself all the time. It must be great. It must be so great to be like that.

00:49:26.580 It's not great for the rest of us that we have to be around people like this, but it's great to be that person.

00:49:32.440 I assume. I mean, just for comparison's sake, you know, I made a movie. I made two movies. Big hits. I'm confident in both of them. I like both movies.

00:49:42.940 I know they're good. They did really well. And yet, when we finally put Am I Racist on for my kids a few weeks ago, I was nervous.

00:49:52.080 I was nervous for my kids to see it. I was actually nervous that my children were going to watch the movie.

00:49:57.800 I'm sitting there on pins and needles, right? Pins and needles waiting to get the verdict on the movie from my 11-year-old.

00:50:04.020 And they all loved it, of course. I'm their dad. They love seeing their dad in a movie. They've watched it, like, four times since then.

00:50:12.080 The point, though, is that I was nervous to show a quality piece of content to a small audience of my own family.

00:50:20.000 Okay, so that's—and yet, here is Francis Collins, without a care in the world, no nerves, no shyness, performing the worst song of all time in front of an audience of people in D.C.

00:50:35.200 That—I hate that. I wish I was that oblivious. I really do. I wish I had no self-awareness.

00:50:42.220 Every time I see somebody with no self-awareness, walking into a room, you know, talking, like, boring everyone to death with their dumb stories, making everything awkward, but they don't notice it. 0.97

00:50:57.460 They don't know they're doing it. And I think to myself, man, it must be great. It must be great. It must just feel great to be like that. 0.97

00:51:05.260 You end up making a total ass of yourself all the time, but who cares? Like, you don't care. You don't even know what's happening. 0.99

00:51:13.880 So, I don't know. That's my—that's—I wish I could be like Francis Collins, only in that—only in that regard.

00:51:26.240 And we do—I am—I am similar to him in that we both have—neither of us can sing.

00:51:31.980 The only difference is that because I know I can't sing, I would never, ever sing in front of anyone ever, ever, ever.

00:51:39.240 And yet, he—he's—he's—he's into it. He's having a great time inflicting that on the rest of us. It's amazing.

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00:53:40.600 I've never watched the Netflix reality TV show Love is Blind.

00:53:44.900 I know that probably shocks you to hear.

00:53:46.820 It seems like I'm sort of the key demographic for that type of programming.

00:53:51.700 All I know about the show is what I learned from reading about it on Wikipedia this morning.

00:53:55.480 So apparently it features a group of men and women who date by communicating through speakers without seeing each other.

00:54:01.960 They only meet in person and see each other for the first time after they get engaged.

00:54:06.500 I think that's the way it works.

00:54:08.220 And then there's a period of a few weeks where they live together.

00:54:11.000 At the conclusion of this brief cohabitation phase, they either get married or they choose to go their separate ways.

00:54:16.120 You'll be shocked again to learn that the majority of relationships and marriages to come out of this show last for about 45 seconds once the cameras turn off.

00:54:23.400 There's an old adage you've probably heard before.

00:54:25.960 It says families that make trashed reality TV shows together stay together.

00:54:30.180 But it turns out that that adage is wrong.

00:54:32.880 All that said, meeting on a reality show where you talk to each other through an intercom isn't much worse than meeting through Tinder.

00:54:39.740 In fact, since the parameters of the show prevent couples from having sex for at least the first several days, allegedly,

00:54:46.540 you might argue that Love is Blind is downright traditional compared to how so many people approach dating these days.

00:54:53.400 I mean, this is basically 19th century courtship in comparison to a dating app hookup, you might argue.

00:54:59.460 You'd probably be wrong, but you might argue it.

00:55:01.960 In any case, that's kind of a long preamble to this viral clip from the season 8 finale of Love is Blind.

00:55:07.700 And in this clip, we will see contestant Sarah Carlton meeting her fiancé, Ben Mazenga, for their nuptials.

00:55:15.420 But in a moment that came as a major twist to the not terribly bright people who watch these shows,

00:55:20.260 but not at all surprising to the producers who certainly staged the whole thing,

00:55:23.980 Sarah decided to leave Ben at the altar.

00:55:26.380 And here's the moment where she breaks the news.

00:55:29.160 I love you so much.

00:55:34.160 But I've always wanted a partner to be on the same wavelength.

00:55:41.600 And so today I can't.

00:55:49.800 I'm sorry, but I don't want that to be misunderstood.

00:55:52.120 I still love you and everything about you is amazing.

00:55:56.020 And I care about you so much.

00:55:59.160 I care about you too.

00:56:01.360 And I love you so much.

00:56:03.220 And I know I want to stay with you and keep growing our relationship, if you'll let me.

00:56:09.700 We'll see.

00:56:12.620 We'll talk about that.

00:56:15.120 Okay.

00:56:18.200 I love you.

00:56:19.260 I love you so much.

00:56:21.040 I know that the connection we have is so real.

00:56:24.420 The connection we have is so real, which is why I'm going to humiliate you on television.

00:56:28.140 I love you so much and have a deep and real connection.

00:56:30.880 So naturally I've decided to dump you in front of an audience.

00:56:34.160 With information, by the way, it's not like she, you know, discovered some information about the guy at the last minute,

00:56:42.240 right before she was walking up to the altar.

00:56:44.620 Somebody told it and showed a video of him cheating on her.

00:56:48.160 That's not what happened.

00:56:48.700 This is information that she would have known the whole time.

00:56:53.080 And she could have told him this at any time, but waited until the, let him put the, let him put the suit on and everything.

00:56:59.760 Right?

00:57:00.140 He's got his suit on.

00:57:00.980 He's showing up.

00:57:01.740 It's like she put the dress on knowing that this was, she was going to dump him anyway. 0.99

00:57:05.740 And then this pathetic guy, who, by the way, I find to be far more grotesque than the woman in this exchange. 0.97

00:57:16.180 He's being humiliated in front of everybody in this whole thing that she set up just for that purpose. 0.98

00:57:21.500 And his response is to say, but we'll hope we could still be together.

00:57:25.720 Oh my gosh, dude, this is, this is tough to watch.

00:57:30.820 But why is she dumping him?

00:57:32.400 Well, that's the part that's gotten a lot of attention online.

00:57:34.880 Here it is.

00:57:36.420 My heart is there.

00:57:37.940 But we talked about a lot of the values that I hold so close to my heart.

00:57:41.620 Making this decision, my mind is telling me I can't.

00:57:50.040 Oh man.

00:57:50.940 Because it's sad.

00:57:51.800 Like, I was really excited about Ben.

00:57:54.060 And I, I'm like, he's such a great person.

00:57:56.300 I just like.

00:58:00.820 I just hope I made the right decision.

00:58:09.360 Like, I remember, like, I asked him about, like, Black Lives Matter, and I'm no expert.

00:58:14.260 But, like, when I asked him about it, he was like, I guess I never really thought too much about it.

00:58:18.600 That affected me, especially in our own city.

00:58:21.060 Like, how could it not?

00:58:22.080 How did he not make you think about something?

00:58:24.260 I asked him, too, like, what his church's views are.

00:58:29.060 And he said he didn't know.

00:58:31.720 And so then I watched a sermon online.

00:58:36.480 From his church?

00:58:37.680 About, yeah, sexual identity.

00:58:39.660 Okay.

00:58:40.140 And it was traditional.

00:58:42.080 I told that to, to Ben.

00:58:45.120 And I just thought that it doesn't really have much to say about it, you know?

00:58:49.640 I want something to think about that stuff.

00:58:51.180 Sometimes I did wonder if it was surface, fun, carefree love that we had.

00:58:57.960 Equality, religion, the vaccine. 0.98

00:59:03.400 So to review, she loves him.

00:59:05.180 She feels a connection with him, and she believes in him to be a really good guy.

00:59:07.580 But she doesn't want to marry him because he is not sufficiently pro-BLM or the vaccine.

00:59:11.380 And he goes to a church with, horror of horrors, traditional views on sexuality.

00:59:15.980 Now, for the purpose of this discussion, we will pretend that this moment and the entire show are not completely contrived.

00:59:25.440 I'm quite confident that my podcast attracts an audience intelligent enough to know that reality shows are all fake,

00:59:31.920 and dating reality shows are the fakest of all.

00:59:34.120 In fact, you know, that's kind of an important point, that the phoniness makes this even more sinister.

00:59:39.480 This is obviously not an organic moment of emotional honesty from Sarah to Ben.

00:59:43.300 This is propaganda.

00:59:44.060 The producers of the show are putting this on the air in order to send the message that conservative men are not marriage material.

00:59:51.160 This is meant to influence the rather impressionable women who watch this sort of programming, 0.99

00:59:55.500 convincing them that they shouldn't date or marry any man who doesn't toe the ideological line.

01:00:00.500 Notice the framing, right?

01:00:01.780 This woman, at least, you know, for the story, waited until the guy was at the altar, standing in front of his friends and family to tell him that his political beliefs are disqualifying. 0.96

01:00:15.440 In the real world, the actual real world, not the real world as presented by reality TV, this would make her a horrible, sadistic witch. 1.00

01:00:22.460 But in this show, her ridiculously callous behavior is accompanied by soft emotional music and the other characters, I mean, you know, her family, consoling and comforting her.

01:00:34.600 Reality shows are not renowned for their artistic subtlety, and this is no exception.

01:00:39.060 There's nothing subtle about this.

01:00:40.180 It is, again, a scene meant to encourage women to feel revulsion towards men who have, as she says, with disgust, traditional values.

01:00:48.820 But let's, again, put all that to the side.

01:00:52.220 For the sake of discussion, let's take all of this at face value.

01:00:55.480 After all, there are plenty of men who find themselves in similar situations.

01:00:58.880 It's not happening on camera, and they aren't getting dumped at the altar.

01:01:01.680 Often they get dumped after the altar, unfortunately.

01:01:04.100 But still, there are many Ben's who wind up with Sarah's, and that's why it's important to say that this is usually completely avoidable.

01:01:17.260 Don't go on a reality TV dating show.

01:01:20.080 That's one way to avoid it.

01:01:21.140 But it's avoidable even outside of that because, you know, the cliche says that opposites attract.

01:01:29.080 And that's true in a certain sense.

01:01:31.140 Men and women are opposite sexes. 1.00

01:01:32.660 That alone is enough to vindicate the cliche.

01:01:35.100 Happily married couples very often have wildly different personalities and interests.

01:01:38.720 Anecdotally, nearly every happily married couple that I know features an extrovert and an introvert.

01:01:44.400 So there's some opposite attracting there.

01:01:45.900 As an introvert, I can't imagine being married to one.

01:01:48.680 There'd be way too much contemplating and ruminating going on.

01:01:52.320 The thought of two extroverts being married is equally overwhelming.

01:01:56.080 Way too much talking, not nearly enough shutting up.

01:01:58.940 This is the kind of variation that brings some flavor into your relationship.

01:02:01.780 But your worldview, your value system, that's a different matter entirely.

01:02:08.660 Contrasting personalities can bring excitement and humor into your marriage.

01:02:12.720 Contrasting value systems, on the other hand, bring conflict.

01:02:16.800 Deep, constant conflict.

01:02:19.560 An unbridgeable divide.

01:02:20.980 It's like when you have a variety of instruments playing one song, you get a symphony.

01:02:26.920 But when you have different instruments playing different songs at the same time, you get noise and chaos.

01:02:32.920 That's what it's like to be in a relationship with somebody whose core values are opposed to your own.

01:02:36.560 The two of you are playing different songs.

01:02:38.140 There's no harmony.

01:02:39.180 And there can never be.

01:02:39.920 So, if you don't want to end up divorced or dumped at the altar or in a miserable marriage with somebody whose values are in complete opposition to your own, all you have to do to avoid that scenario is find out their values very early on.

01:02:52.340 In the vast majority of cases, that is easy to do.

01:02:56.460 Here's how you do it.

01:02:58.040 Most of the time, it's as simple as this.

01:02:59.880 Just ask them.

01:03:02.460 Ask them right away.

01:03:05.460 In our case, my wife and I talked about all of these things on our first date.

01:03:09.160 We spent hours talking about politics and religion.

01:03:12.340 Because neither of us wanted to waste our time dating somebody who would only later turn out to be a far-left wacko. 1.00

01:03:17.120 It's better to get that out in the open right away.

01:03:19.880 I don't want to waste my time.

01:03:21.560 If this woman who I'm meeting for the first time is some kind of left-wing feminist, tell me now. 1.00

01:03:29.880 I'll cut the dinner off 30 minutes into it, and I won't pay because you're a feminist because I'd assume you want to pay, and we could go our separate ways. 1.00

01:03:39.520 So, it's not emotionally devastating to break things off after one date.

01:03:44.280 You don't even know the person.

01:03:45.520 The further you get into the relationship, the harder it is, and the more you might be tempted to overlook serious red flags.

01:03:51.900 So, that's why I prefer a kind of cut-to-the-chase strategy.

01:03:54.780 Now, if you're on the dating scene right now, maybe you don't want to have an intense political discourse on your first date.

01:04:00.320 I recognize I'm a bit extreme.

01:04:01.960 My wife is, too, so it worked out.

01:04:03.940 So, if you want to save it for the second or third date, that's fine.

01:04:06.700 But don't save it for the 20th date, and certainly don't save it for sometime after you've already tied the knot.

01:04:13.600 Besides, if you're avoiding religion and politics, what the hell else is there to talk about?

01:04:17.000 There are only, like, five interesting things to discuss, and that's two of them.

01:04:22.880 So, save yourself the heartache.

01:04:24.840 Don't become another Ben.

01:04:27.320 Don't waste your time with a Sarah. 1.00

01:04:30.400 Also, if you value your brain cells, don't watch reality TV dating shows at all.

01:04:34.880 That's probably the best advice that could come out of this.

01:04:37.460 And that is why Love is Blind, and every show like it, and every person who watches that show or any show like it, are all today canceled.

01:04:45.380 That'll do it for the show today.

01:04:46.020 Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.

01:04:47.140 Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.

01:04:48.680 Godspeed.

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