Ep. 1553 - Exposing The Coordinated Terror Campaign Against Elon Musk And Tesla
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There is a coordinated campaign of terrorism against Elon Musk and Tesla. The media won t tell you about it, so we will talk about it today. Also, Trump launches an attack on one of the most conservative members of Congress. Why is he doing this, and is this a good political strategy? We ll talk about that and more on today s episode of The Matt Welch Show.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, there is a coordinated campaign of terrorism against Elon Musk and
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Tesla. The media won't tell you about it, so we will talk about it today. Also, Trump launches
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an attack on one of the most conservative members of Congress, Thomas Massey. Why is he doing this,
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and is this a good political strategy? We'll talk about it. A speaker at a protest in D.C.
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tries to turn the what-is-a-woman question back around on conservatives. It doesn't work well
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for him. And a viral clip exposes a major problem for the left, along with all the other words they
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One of the hardest things to do, especially when you've got a million other things going on in your life,
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is to think about the political tactics of people that you don't agree with. If you're a conservative
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with a full-time job, it's hard enough to keep track of what Republican politicians are saying and
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what policies they're implementing. It's even harder to track what's going on with the other side,
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especially since, if we're being honest, we usually don't want to think about it. But there's a
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significant change in tactics that's taken place recently on the left in this country that,
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at this point, cannot be ignored. We've known for a while that the left is now, once again,
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openly celebrating political violence. That's been obvious since the BLM era and before.
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What's changing more recently is that the left is becoming far more targeted in its attacks. Instead
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of torching random car lots in Kenosha and shooting security guards in St. Louis to demonstrate their
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solidarity with George Floyd, leftists are now becoming more specific, if not necessarily
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discerning in their attacks. Like all terrorists, they're carefully choosing their victims to maximize
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political impact. They tried to assassinate Trump twice, as we all remember. But now that Trump,
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as president, has the full protection of the Secret Service, and what good it did him the first time
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around, still, they're unleashing targeted violent attacks on people that they perceive to be,
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if not Trump himself, supporters of Trump or enemies of their ideology, at least. And that
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started with the murder of the United Healthcare CEO. But as we predicted, it's not stopping there.
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We're entering a potentially long-lasting phase of deliberate, targeted left-wing terrorism in this
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country, like the weather underground, but on steroids. This is a change that is not happening
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by accident, obviously. In some cases, it's coordinated and very well-funded. But I want to
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start by highlighting exactly what's happening, because for the most part, the national news media
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is not doing so. And what's happening is this. All across the country, Kamala Harris voters have made
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the conscious decision to attack anyone who owns a Tesla or who works at Tesla. And I'm not talking
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about one or two people here. We're not talking about just one or two incidents across the country.
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We're talking about mobs of Democrats who are assaulting people in public because of their
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perceived political views. And they're perceiving those political views just based on the fact that
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these people own a Tesla. You may have seen the footage of shootings, fire bombings, and riots that
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have taken place at Tesla stores all over the country. I'll get to that in a second. But some of the
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most remarkable footage in this respect comes from New Orleans this past Mardi Gras weekend.
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And as part of the Orpheus parade, five Tesla Cybertrucks were carrying passengers through
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uptown New Orleans. And as the vehicles passed for several miles, onlookers pelted the trucks with
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objects they found on the street, everything from beads to road barriers. And at one point,
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a man charged the trucks and began punching the glass, which he ultimately shattered. He also threw an
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object at one of the passengers after he gained access to the back of the vehicle. The footage
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from this convoy of Cybertrucks, it's truly incredible to watch. It's like something out of
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a foreign country. Here are some of it as recorded by the camera on one of the trucks. Watch.
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Yes. We need to get off. We're getting beat to s*** by certain people throwing stuff,
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jumping on the car, kicking the car, hitting the car. The other three cars in the convoy
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On the next slide right there, you'll see a sergeant.
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We've got to pull the medical emergency cars here.
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Now, police were stationed all along the parade route. They saw everything that happened, but
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apparently there were no arrests made. They sat by doing nothing as the mob inflicted thousands
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of dollars worth of property damage solely because of the politics of the CEO of the company that made
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those trucks, which again, does not even necessarily reflect the people that are driving the trucks.
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Obviously, you would think. As you might've seen at one point in the footage, a mother encouraged
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her young child to join in with the mob and pummel the truck. And here's what one of the vehicles
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looked like afterwards. I'm going to play some more footage from this parade, this time from the
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mob's perspective. And as you watch this, listen to the glee in their voices as they throw objects
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at people inside the cyber trucks. Then ask yourself, when was the last time a mob of right-wing
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protesters decided to team up and attack somebody solely because that person had purchased a product
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they don't like? Has it ever happened in the history of the country? I mean, as critical as we were
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about, say, Bud Light, did any mob of conservatives ever chase somebody down and pummel them for
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ordering a Bud Light at a bar? I don't think so. But that's basically what happened in New Orleans
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You can see the cop standing right there. You have the female cop standing right there. I'm
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pretty sure throwing objects at a car is illegal. I think that's against the law. I think there are
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like several laws you're breaking when you do that. No arrests. No one even say, no cops even
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saying, hey, guys, knock it off. Now, beginning with this footage, not because it's the most extreme
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example of violence I could find. We'll get to that. But because it illustrates how widespread this
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mob-like mentality has become on the left. It's not just a handful of left-wing NGOs who are pushing
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this, although that's also certainly happening. In reality, we're talking about hundreds, if not
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thousands of people who are willing to make an American city feel like Fallujah for people who
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happen to be inside a truck they don't like. Not even a truck they don't like, but a truck that was
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made by someone they don't like. And of course, this footage received thousands of positive upvotes
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on Reddit, which has become a central breeding ground for organizing and promoting left-wing
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terrorism like this. You'll also find a lot of support on Reddit for the 41-year-old man who allegedly
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just threw Molotov cocktails at a Tesla location in Oregon before returning shortly afterwards to
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open fire on the business with an assault rifle. Watch.
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41-year-old Adam Lansky Tuesday saying they've linked him to two separate incidents at the Salem
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Tesla dealership. The first happened on January 20th when authorities say someone threw Molotov cocktails
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at the dealership. Here you can see a suspect lighting an incendiary device in these new surveillance
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images. That explosion eventually causing all of this damage. Then a month later, on February 19th,
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documents show someone shot at the building and a vehicle, leaving behind even more damage.
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Authorities say the suspect used an AR-15 style rifle with a suppressor. Investigators say Lansky
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is the suspect captured on surveillance video throwing the explosive devices in January and his car could be
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seen parked near the dealership during the second attack in February, linking him to both incidents.
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Now, Andy Ngo has reported that Adam Lansky, the man accused of committing these attacks,
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is a Portland trans activist who uses the alias Allison Tesla in his activism and in his pornography
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career, unfortunately. Meanwhile, other trans activists, another trans activist, Justin Thomas Nelson,
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aka Lucy Grace Nelson, is accused of repeatedly attacking another Tesla dealership in Loveland,
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Colorado. Justin Nelson allegedly spray painted the words Nazi cars on some of the vehicles and then
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returned days later with, again, Molotov cocktails before he was arrested. So he was booked and then
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let out on bond and then he attacked the same Tesla location again. Of course, local news reports refer to
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Justin as a woman because even when trans identifying males are allegedly committing acts of arson, we have
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to respect their false identities apparently. Odds are, if you get your news from the mainstream press,
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you probably were not aware of any or most of this. You didn't know that two trans-identifying Antifa
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activists are accused of attempting to firebomb Tesla dealerships in just the past month. And for that
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matter, you certainly weren't aware that a trans-identifying suspect named Ryan Michael English,
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otherwise known as Riley English, was arrested just a month ago after arriving in D.C. with,
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again, Molotov cocktails with the intention of assassinating members of Trump's cabinet.
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And that's according to court documents which state that Ryan has confessed to that crime.
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So this is not just leftists attacking people, but it's very often trans-leftists. So that's an
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awful lot of violence that's coming from a small subset of the population in a very short period of time.
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It's enough to make you wonder if men who pretend to be women might not be the most mentally stable
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individuals. And as these are just the suspects we know about, just a day after the FBI identified
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the suspect in the first attack on the Tesla store in Oregon, there was another shooting
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at a different Tesla location near Portland. Watch.
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Police tape bullet holes and shattered glass. Crews spent the day cleaning up the Tesla dealership
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after investigators say someone shot it up overnight Thursday, causing tens of thousands of dollars in
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damage. When employees showed up to work this morning, that's when they discovered the damage.
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Tigard police say someone fired at least seven shots, damaging three cars and shattering windows.
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Fortunately, it happened overnight when employees were gone.
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I think the concerning thing for the employees is that it happened at all and that one of those
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shots went into an office and into a computer monitor. Ultimately, we're just thankful that nobody
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was hurt. These attacks are not just happening on the West Coast, of course. In Massachusetts,
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someone set fire to several Tesla supercharger locations, which Tesla owners use to charge their
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vehicles away from home. They're like gas stations for electric vehicles. Listen.
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Each charger charred in various shades of black. Evidence of the fire that broke out in this
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Littleton parking lot last night. And the fire chief says these flames were no accident.
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At this point, it does appear that it was a set fire. Around 1 a.m., firefighters were called to
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Constitution Ave and found seven Tesla charging stations up in flames. They burned for nearly an
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hour until electricity was finally cut to the units, a challenge for firefighters. The electricity is one
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of our bigger issues that we're dealing with and making sure that not only the public, but the
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firefighters are safe. So we kept our distance from the charged electrical equipment. And although
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investigators won't say what evidence was left behind, they do say it suggests arson.
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It's suspicious based on the evidence that was found on scene.
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Going back to the Bud Light analogy, can you imagine, can you imagine if during the Bud Light boycott,
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if even one Bud Light warehouse had been vandalized by just one incident? Or can you imagine even one person
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drinking a Bud Light had something thrown at them by an angry conservative? One incident like that,
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just one. And I mean, the FBI would have been knocking on my door as one of the people leading
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the boycott. Like there would have been FBI investigations, mass media hysteria. Meanwhile,
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you have these Tesla locations across the country that are being set on fire. And the local media
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will report it as isolated incidents, but there's nobody in corporate media saying, hey, look what's
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going on here. There's a campaign underway here. So within about 48 hours, by the way, Tesla had that
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location that we just saw up and running again. So they were able to recover quickly from this
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particular act of vandalism, which every sane person would object to. But if you go on the Boston
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subreddit, you'll find that, which is not a place for sane people, you'll find they don't object to
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this arson attack at all. Here's one post on the Boston subreddit, for example. As you can see,
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they're sarcastically saying that weather probably caused the blaze and that it's no big deal.
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Thousands of people are upvoting posts like this. There's similar enthusiasm in New York where
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protesters were just removed after attempting to shut down a Tesla store there. And those are protests,
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according to Elon Musk, that involved at least in part organizations that have received substantial
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funding from George Soros' nonprofits over the years. But regardless of Soros' culpability, there's
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really no other way to interpret what's happening here. We are witnessing a campaign of terrorism by
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the left, which is openly being celebrated, if not coordinated, by thousands of other leftists using
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platforms like Reddit. And it's leading everyday people to physically assault Tesla owners at every
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opportunity. So this is footage from New York, for example. We don't have sound for this one. So
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in case you can't see it, it's some guy running alongside a cyber truck, punching it repeatedly
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and giving the middle finger to the occupants. And then at the end of the footage, a police car
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appears in frame. And of course, the officer does absolutely nothing. These kinds of attacks are
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becoming so common now that it's impossible to keep up with all of them. Late Sunday, the reporter,
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Jonathan Cho, uploaded this footage of cyber trucks on fire in Seattle in yet another suspected arson
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attack. Oh, my gosh. A Tesla cyber truck is on fire. All right. There's a fleet of cyber trucks right
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now. Unbelievable. Seattle fire on the scene. Now, this probably goes without saying, but no matter how hard
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you look, you will not find a single Democrat Party politician who is willing to condemn any of this.
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Not a single one. Not one. Not a single one. The party of democracy is completely silent as left-wing
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terrorists commit acts of political violence all over the country for the express purpose of
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intimidating Elon Musk and anyone who dared to vote for Donald Trump. And we all know why that is,
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because they all endorse it. The Democrat Party and the media outlets they effectively control have no
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problem with destroying the property of anyone they believe is a conservative. We know that.
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We know they don't respect property rights or human rights in general. We saw how they reacted when
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entire city blocks were being burned down. So, you know, a Tesla dealership is nothing to them.
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They also don't mind destroying Tesla, one of the most important companies in the United States,
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which employs more than 100,000 people in the process of all this. And these are people who are
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not interested in progress or the advancement of human civilization. They are the enemies of both.
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And as if to prove that point, MSNBC anchors recently celebrated the explosion
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of SpaceX's Starship during a recent test launch. And this is a test launch that, in case you missed
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it, included the catch of the booster rocket, which is one of the most remarkable technological
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achievements of all time. Okay, being able to catch these rockets out of the air is one of the most
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significant scientific advancements anyone has ever achieved in the entire history of humanity.
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But over at MSNBC, they don't even mention the booster catch, of course. Instead, they burst out
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into song because the Starship itself had exploded. Watch.
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Elon Musk. On Thursday, a SpaceX Starship rocket exploded just minutes into its test flight.
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The FAA temporarily stopped air traffic around Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, and Orlando.
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It is the second consecutive Starship test flight from Elon Musk's company to end with destruction.
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Oh, please don't. That's good. That's good. We got it. We understand how painful that was for y'all out there.
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My suggestion for Elon, his response to all of this was rockets are hard. And Mr. Musk, if they're so hard,
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why don't you go back to your day job and work that out and leave those of us who do government to do
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government? Because you can't do both. And clearly you're failing right now at both. Your rockets are
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blowing up and the government's blowing up. So I suggest you concentrate on the one thing you think
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you know more about and do that and leave the rest to those of us who know a little bit of how to
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provide services to people who need them and make the government function.
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Did you guys see the tweet from Representative Jasmine Crockett about this?
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Who is it the guy that keeps blowing stuff up literally and figuratively is firing people claiming that they are
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failures? We know his failures have nothing to do with DEI because he doesn't believe in it, but he'd possibly be
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succeeding right now if he did. You see, clearly there's a lot of unqualified people running this thing.
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Yeah, go back to your day job, Elon Musk. Go back to your day job. You're clearly failing. You're
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building rockets that are going to go to Mars and catching them out of the sky, which NASA never
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figured out how to do in decades. Just go back to your day job. You know, just speaking about the end
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of that clip there, we've done a lot of segments recently about how utterly dumb and inane Jasmine
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Crockett is, but really all we had to do is play that clip. If only Musk had more DEI hires, maybe
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Starship wouldn't have exploded. That's the logic they're going with in the Democrat Party and at
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MSNBC. It's just how utterly shameless these people are. Because as we all know, when you need
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to achieve something that's never been achieved before in human history, you call in the DEI hires.
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After all, DEI hires are how NASA landed on the moon. Oh wait, no, that's not how that worked,
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is it? It's exactly when they weren't doing DEI, when all the astronauts were just white men. You
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know, that's when NASA was actually achieving things. But it's the exact opposite of that,
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the exact opposite. Anyway, of course, none of these people, even Jasmine Crockett, believe any
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of this nonsense. For all their demonization of billionaires and corporations, the truth is that
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the left has this intense hatred for Elon because they see him as a class traitor. They know that the
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wealthy are supposed to be on their side. Elon, as not only an uber-wealthy guy, but also a man of
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great scientific achievement, should be a devotee to their cause. That's why they kind of reserve for
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him this special kind of hatred, the special kind of hatred that you have not just for enemies,
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but for traitors. That's how they see him. Just think for a moment about the absurdity of the clip
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we just watched. Again, this man is building reusable rockets for the purpose of making space
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travel affordable enough that we can colonize Mars in the near future. The whole point of these
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test launches is to gather data so that the next launch in just a few weeks can be a success. That's
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why nobody, no person was on board the Starship. It's a test flight. And these test flights clearly
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work, as anyone familiar with SpaceX's history and its progress in just the past decade understands
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very well. But increasingly, few people on the left actually care about SpaceX or Tesla or Elon Musk or
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any of that. Instead, they care about political control, which they're obviously losing. So in
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some cases, they're resorting to terrorism instead. And on television, they're turning to juvenile,
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barely literate criticism of a space program they can't begin to comprehend.
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It's difficult not to be reminded of Teddy Roosevelt's famous speech on insufferable people
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like this from all the way back in 1910. It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out
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how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. I won't recite
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the whole thing for you, but if you don't know it, you should Google it. Because there's no better way
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to describe cable news hosts who laugh while a man builds rockets to Mars. Shut out of political
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relevance, leftists are turning to violence and terrorism. And they're only going to intensify
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their efforts in the coming weeks. But what we know is that with every arson attack and every
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insufferable segment on MSNBC, they're only highlighting two things. First of all, they are
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irrelevant. And second, the men in the arena, the people who are actually committed to moving this
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continuing resolution that would keep the government from shutting down. Massey, a hardline
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conservative, has pledged to vote against a Trump-backed measure that would increase defense
00:24:43.740
spending while decreasing most non-defense spending below 2024 levels through the end of September.
00:24:49.360
The bill, which cleared the House Rules Committee on Monday, has earned the support of the Conservative
00:24:53.860
House Freedom Caucus and would keep a government shutdown from taking place at midnight Friday if it
00:24:58.420
passes the full House and Senate. Trump said thanks to the House Freedom Caucus,
00:25:06.040
for just delivering a big blow to the radical left. Sometimes it takes great courage to do the
00:25:10.620
right thing. Congressman Thomas Massey of beautiful Kentucky is an automatic no vote on just about
00:25:15.260
everything, despite the fact that he's always voted for continuing resolutions in the past.
00:25:19.020
He should be primaried, and I will lead the charge against him.
00:25:23.620
He said that the congressman is just another grandstander who's too much trouble,
00:25:27.340
not worth the fight. He reminds me of Liz Cheney before her historic record-breaking fall.
00:25:32.780
The people of Kentucky won't stand for it. Just watch. Do I have any takers? Says Trump.
00:25:41.720
Okay, this is wrong. Trump is wrong on this. Thomas Massey is one of our best congressmen by far and
00:25:47.440
away. He's one of the most, if not the most, conservative members of Congress. He's extremely
00:25:52.800
principled and consistent. He doesn't want to vote for the CR because it increases spending.
00:26:02.780
He's against that, and so he's voting against it. You know, and you can agree or disagree with him,
00:26:09.380
but to call for him to be ousted from Congress and primaried is just wrong. It really is wrong.
00:26:18.800
And that is, again, regardless of how you feel about the continuing resolution
00:26:25.920
and the budget and, you know, if you think that it's okay that they're going to increase defense
00:26:31.140
spending or not, regardless of that. If Trump had just put out a tweet or a truth, what do they call it?
00:26:42.400
The truth. If he put out a post on his platform and said, hey, we're trying to get this CR passed.
00:26:50.260
Thomas Massey is not for it. I really disagree with him. You know, why don't you reach out to
00:26:56.180
him and try to convince him? Whatever. I know that's not Trump's style to approach things that
00:27:01.500
way, but if he had said that, I wouldn't be talking about this. I don't think it'd be a big deal.
00:27:07.160
Okay. He disagrees with Thomas Massey. That's fine. You can criticize him harshly if you want to.
00:27:13.540
That's fine too. It's always okay to criticize politicians, but this is going way beyond that.
00:27:21.780
You're trying to get him ousted from Congress, but you're throwing down the gauntlet that you
00:27:27.720
personally will try to get him removed from Congress through a primary. And listen, I know that guys like
00:27:35.080
Massey can be frustrating if you want him to go with the program because he's not a go with the
00:27:40.960
program type, but you need guys like that in Congress. I don't care. Even if you find them
00:27:47.800
annoying sometimes, you need them. Massey is very much in the Ron Paul kind of tradition.
00:27:54.220
He's not going to vote for increased spending. He's not going to go along with stuff just to go along
00:27:58.820
with it. Right? When all the Republicans are saying, hey, come on, Tom, what? We're all doing it.
00:28:04.600
Jump in. The water's fine. Thomas Massey is going to be one of the few guys who's like,
00:28:09.560
yep, I don't agree with it. I'm not doing it. Sorry.
00:28:13.880
So you could call him a bit of a party pooper at times, but you need guys like that. You need guys
00:28:21.020
like that. Those guys are not the problem. The Republican party has plenty of problems.
00:28:29.240
Thomas Massey is not one of them. And you know what? I'll tell you, if you know why you need guys
00:28:36.360
like that, I'll tell you why. Because when something like COVID happens, you need your Thomas Masseys
00:28:45.720
because they are going to be the only people who stand against the madness. Massey was one of the
00:28:54.080
very, very few Republicans to stand up against the COVID madness from the beginning.
00:29:00.860
He was against the vaccine, the vaccine mandates, the lockdowns, the masking mandates,
00:29:07.660
the stimulus checks that were handed out, which proved to be a quite disastrous decision.
00:29:16.620
He was against all of that. And he was right. And that's why you need Massey there. You need him
00:29:21.540
because you know that a guy like Massey is going to get those issues right.
00:29:27.380
And when Republicans are banding together to do something dumb, you can guarantee that Massey
00:29:32.680
will not be in that group. He's one of those guys. And again, we need those guys. To be clear,
00:29:38.300
you can feel however you want about the continuing resolution. That to me doesn't even matter that
00:29:44.500
much. We go through this periodically. Every few months, it's another big panic. Oh, the government's
00:29:49.580
going to shut down. The government's going to shut down. I don't know how many, just in the time I've
00:29:53.080
been doing this podcast for six or seven years, how many times have we had this news cycle where
00:29:57.060
there's a big panic because the government's going to shut down? 50 times? I mean, it's constant.
00:30:02.360
It's a constant thing. And so I'm not even interested in talking about that. It bores me to death
00:30:07.160
because it doesn't matter if you think Massey is right or wrong about this. The point is that
00:30:12.580
trying to kick the guy out of Congress is foolish. Here's a fun challenge. Here's an activity. You
00:30:19.080
should try this. If you think that Massey should be primaried, you clearly believe that he's one of
00:30:24.680
the worst Republicans in Congress if you want him to be primaried. Because I assume that you don't
00:30:29.660
support primarying the best Republicans in Congress. I would hope you wouldn't support that.
00:30:34.260
So here's the challenge. Try to come up with a list of 10 elected Republicans with a better
00:30:40.820
voting record over the last 10 years than Thomas Massey. Go ahead. Give me 10. If you want the guy
00:30:52.600
ousted, you must have at least 10 guys in Congress who you think are better than Thomas Massey.
00:30:59.220
You must be able to prove that he's not a top 10 Republican. I'll make it easier. Give me five.
00:31:06.460
Give me five. Give me five elected Republicans with a better voting record than Thomas Massey.
00:31:13.720
I'll wait. I mean, actually, I won't wait because I'll be waiting forever because he can't do it.
00:31:17.640
So this is a mistake by Trump. It's a mistake on the merits. It's also a political mistake.
00:31:21.120
This is a political miscalculation by Trump. Trump is usually very good at picking battles
00:31:26.800
that he can win. He's very good at that. He's got a great instinct for it. But as I said,
00:31:31.360
nobody bats 1,000. Nobody's right all the time. And in this case, his instincts fail them because
00:31:35.960
this is not the politics of it. Put aside the merits. The politics of it are not good.
00:31:42.600
Thomas Massey, a primary challenge against Thomas Massey in Kentucky will fail. He is very popular.
00:31:52.220
He's very popular with the grassroots across the country. He's popular on social media with people
00:31:57.940
on the right. But most importantly, and all that stuff matters politically too. Like you just go on,
00:32:06.920
and I'm not saying this is the be all and end all, but it does matter that if you go on X right now
00:32:10.440
and you look at the conversation about Thomas Massey and Trump's attempts to sort of demonize
00:32:14.400
him and turn him into public enemy number one, it is at best very divided on the right about this.
00:32:21.080
And there's a lot of grassroots conservative support for Massey against Trump on this. And
00:32:29.860
that doesn't happen often. So that alone shows you that this is probably not the fight that he wanted
00:32:35.200
to pick. But all of that is, you know, that's secondary to the fact that what's most important
00:32:42.600
is that Thomas Massey is very popular with his constituents. We know that. We don't have to
00:32:46.500
speculate because they keep reelecting him. They keep reelecting him easily. His constituents love
00:32:51.200
him. And of course they love him because he does what he promises to do for his constituents. His
00:32:56.160
constituents in Kentucky, in his district, vote him in there because they want him to vote against
00:33:00.580
stuff like this. That's why they vote. You might not, you know, if you live somewhere else and you're
00:33:04.900
not a Thomas Massey constituent, you might feel differently. You might wish that Thomas Massey
00:33:08.400
did something else, but he's not actually there to represent you. Thomas Massey doesn't represent me.
00:33:13.260
I live in Tennessee. He represents his constituents and he's doing what his constituents want him to do.
00:33:17.120
That's his job. So, um, so a primary challenge is going to fail. And Trump is kind of throwing down
00:33:26.700
the gauntlet. He's calling the shot, but it's not going to work. Who's going to primary Thomas
00:33:32.520
Massey? Who's going to step up to that? Who wants to be the guy? You're not going to, you're not going
00:33:37.080
to get a real conservative. You're not going to get a real conservative with any kind of political
00:33:40.400
future who wants to step up to the plate to be the guy to primary Thomas Massey and then lose.
00:33:46.000
Um, so you're not going to get that. What you're going to get, here's what's going to happen.
00:33:49.060
I guarantee it. I guarantee it. You can, you know, come back and tell me I'm wrong later.
00:33:52.760
Clip this out. If I prove to be wrong, I won't be. If he gets primaried, if a primary challenge
00:33:58.320
even gets off the ground, which is a big if, but if it does, it's going to be a challenge from the
00:34:02.860
left. It's going to be someone who's more liberal than Thomas Massey and more establishment. So this
00:34:07.860
is going to be an establishment liberal challenge from the left against Thomas Massey. And Trump has
00:34:14.280
already signed up to support whoever that person is, right? Against a grassroots conservative,
00:34:22.020
very popular congressman. Uh, it's, it's just not, it's, it's not the right approach. It's bad
00:34:30.840
politics, bad politics. All right. So there was a rally, uh, in DC, I assume as always for international
00:34:38.140
women's day over the weekend, a man got up there to lecture the crowd of women about what it means
00:34:43.900
to be a woman. And he's kind of trying to flip these, doing the uno reverse and trying to flip the,
00:34:49.680
what is a woman question around on conservatives. And, uh, let's see, let's see how that worked out.
00:34:55.500
The cis women, BIPOC women have to do it for white women. All women have to do it for men. And we are
00:35:01.500
sick of it. It was women teaching me that there is no definition that anyone can find to define what
00:35:10.480
is a woman that excludes me. That does not also exclude millions of cisgender women, women born
00:35:17.960
without a uterus, women born with chromosomal incongruities, women with hormone imbalances,
00:35:23.220
women with facial hair. According to the Boston Children's Hospital, one in every 5,000 women is
00:35:29.660
born without a vagina. There is no way to say that trans women do not belong without also saying
00:35:35.480
to that all of them are not women either. And I dare you to say to your, their faces, they are not.
00:35:41.380
So there's the challenge. He says that we cannot come up with a definition of woman that does not
00:35:47.320
exclude millions of quote unquote cis women. And by cis women, of course we mean biological women. And by
00:35:54.200
biological women, we just mean women, you know, actual women. So, but, but to use his language, he's saying
00:36:01.040
that we cannot come up with a definition of woman that would exclude him as a trans identified male, but
00:36:10.740
also, but not also exclude millions of quote unquote cis women. So that's the challenge. And I'd be a real
00:36:20.000
hypocrite if somebody tried to flip the what is woman challenge around on me and I failed to answer
00:36:25.540
it. So I'll take that on, sir. I will take that on. Can I come up with an answer to what is woman that
00:36:31.840
does not exclude millions of actual women? I can. Here it is. Adult human female. Okay. There you go.
00:36:42.520
Done. Next question. So that's the answer. That is the answer to the, to the riddle. Adult human female
00:36:49.180
covers all women. That's what's beautiful about the definition. That's what's beautiful about any
00:36:55.060
definition of anything is that it's, is that it covers all the things that it's defining and none
00:37:00.700
of the things that it's not. That's what it means. That's what is necessary. That's what makes it a
00:37:05.220
definition. So women without uteruses and women who are infertile and women with physical deformities,
00:37:12.640
women with facial hair, women with hormone imbalances, all of them are female.
00:37:20.780
Okay. A woman could have a full on beard and no, and she could be completely infertile and she could
00:37:26.980
have no uterus and she would still be a female. I mean, she could have no uterus, a beard, no arms,
00:37:36.280
no legs, no eyes, no ears. I mean, yeah, it's, she could, she could lose every part of her body that
00:37:45.460
would not kill her to lose. And she would still be a woman. She would still be entirely a woman.
00:37:52.140
She would be as much a woman as any other woman walking around with all of their body parts intact.
00:37:57.180
Okay. That's because that's the definition because her species has not changed.
00:38:03.220
So you take a woman and you start removing parts like a Mrs. Potato Head doll. It doesn't matter how
00:38:12.200
many parts are gone. Okay. Because, because the species, like there's no amount of parts of a person
00:38:18.200
that you can take away that would change their species, you see, or, or, or their sex. You know,
00:38:29.700
it's like, you can't, you can't take away any part of a human and change their species to some other
00:38:34.320
species. You can't take away parts of a, of a, of a man and change his sex, take away parts of a woman
00:38:40.200
and change her sex. Species, sex, these things are immutable characteristics. They're inherent
00:38:48.100
traits. They cannot be changed. There's nothing you can add that will change a person, a, the
00:38:54.440
species of a human being or the sex of a human being. There's nothing you can take away that will
00:38:59.040
change that. There are a lot of other traits that can be changed. There are descriptive traits.
00:39:06.200
There are adjectives that can be changed by adding and taking away from a person.
00:39:11.860
But adult human female, species and sex included in the definition, those two things cannot change.
00:39:26.020
And, you know, it's amazing that we've been having this argument for years and we've responded to all
00:39:32.140
of these inane counter arguments a million times. And yet they still come at us with, with stuff like
00:39:39.380
this. They still think that infertility and female facial hair is some kind of decisive
00:39:46.320
fact in their favor. They still think apparently that if you add facial hair to woman, you've changed
00:39:54.260
her sex. Uh, they think it's some sort of Trump card, which of course it's not. All right. One other,
00:40:02.580
a clip from a protest, which, you know, these, it's a daily occurrence. This is a, this latest
00:40:11.120
protest is against Doge in the Capitol. Uh, and you know, we didn't get what we all expected,
00:40:16.600
at least what I expected. Uh, I'll say, which was one big mass protest after Trump's win. I thought
00:40:21.660
that that would happen. I mean, it's what happened the first time he won. We got the big women's march
00:40:25.740
in DC that they claimed a million people showed up to. I don't think it was actually a million,
00:40:29.600
but it was hundreds of thousands of people. We didn't get that. Instead, we're getting something
00:40:32.540
distinctly more annoying, which is a never ending series of small, pitiful, little protests,
00:40:38.280
one after another, after another, after another, uh, unendingly. And at this one, a masked federal
00:40:44.040
worker or hopefully former federal, federal worker showed up to talk about how frightened she was
00:40:50.840
to receive an email asking her what she did last week. Watch this.
00:40:55.780
When you wake up or when you're on your weekend and you get the fork in the road message or you get
00:41:03.540
the subsequent five bullets. Hey, what the hell did you do? You lazy federal worker this week.
00:41:13.580
How frightening is it that someone on X, the owner of X speaks to you directly to say,
00:41:23.920
what did you do last week at work? And if you don't answer, I am going to fire you.
00:41:31.600
But even more egregious, the president comes out, the most powerful person in the land and endorses
00:41:41.240
that message. How do you think that makes federal workers feel?
00:41:47.880
You know, yesterday I talked about the lack of self-awareness of these people and how much I
00:41:51.360
envy it, frankly. And here we have yet another example, no self-awareness. And as an extension
00:41:56.200
of having no self-awareness, they also have no awareness of how other people think, right? This,
00:42:01.980
this is the thing that's really hampering the left right now. It's not so much their lack of
00:42:06.620
self-awareness. It's their lack of other awareness. It's their lack of, of understanding of how other
00:42:12.460
people think and feel. They can't get in our heads at all. They just don't understand it,
00:42:17.340
which means they can't persuade us. In order to persuade someone, you have to be able to understand
00:42:21.200
how they think. If you don't understand how they think and they're a total mystery to you,
00:42:26.460
you're not going to be able to persuade them. In fact, you can't even effectively demean or attack
00:42:33.260
somebody in an effective, in an effective way if you don't understand how they think.
00:42:39.060
You can't even hurt their feelings. Forget about persuading them. You can't hurt someone's
00:42:43.440
feelings if you don't understand how they think. It requires some basic understanding of how your
00:42:50.420
opposition thinks, which they don't have. So if I'm a federal worker and I really want to mobilize
00:42:57.220
people against Doge and against all the cuts to government, and I want to gain sympathy and support
00:43:03.580
from the public, which if you're one of these federal workers or ex-federal workers showing up
00:43:08.740
at a protest, you would think that that's what you want to do. That's why you're having a protest.
00:43:12.480
So if I'm in that spot, here's what I would do. And it's not that I want to give these people any
00:43:16.640
hints, but they're not paying attention to what I'm saying anyway, so it's fine. So here's what I
00:43:20.320
would do. I would get up there and I would say, you know, I got that email from Elon and I was happy
00:43:27.760
he sent it. I sent back 15 things that I did last week. My only complaint is that he didn't ask us to
00:43:35.080
give more things. I wanted to give a longer list. I want him to send more emails and ask for longer
00:43:41.720
because government is a thankless job. I'm slaving away at all hours, working hard at my desk job
00:43:48.380
from 8.30 a.m. to 2 p.m. every day. These are unbelievably hard hours. No one works like me in
00:43:55.460
the federal government and no one ever thanks me. It's a thankless job. I relish the opportunity. I
00:44:01.180
relish the opportunity to tell someone what I've done. It's about time they ask. You know what? I got
00:44:06.460
that email and I thought, thank God. It's about time someone asks me what I'm doing all the time.
00:44:10.620
I hope you sit down for a minute. I hope you have two hours. I'll tell you all the things I did last
00:44:13.840
week. I would say something like that because I would recognize that even if it's not actually
00:44:23.280
true of federal workers, if you're trying to persuade someone, that's how you would frame it
00:44:26.420
because I would recognize that, first of all, if I want people to be against cuts to federal jobs,
00:44:31.280
I need to persuade people that federal workers are doing a lot every day. And for another, I would
00:44:37.440
also recognize that the public is not going to sympathize with me if I cry about having to answer
00:44:42.420
a simple email. So I would not cry about it. If I wanted to cry about it, I would go home and I
00:44:47.200
would cry in the privacy of my own home. I would cry into my pillow at night about the mean, scary
00:44:52.340
email that I received. I would not do it in public because the whole point is to mobilize and persuade
00:44:57.020
the public. And I'm not going to do that by shouting, oh no, the email, the email frightened
00:45:03.220
me. That's scary email. But these protesters don't realize any of this because they have no
00:45:09.120
understanding of how other people's minds work. They don't understand, um, they don't understand
00:45:14.520
their own minds or anyone else's. They're like automatons. They're like essentially AI, but not
00:45:22.380
nearly as smart. Their AI without, without, with a fraction of the computing power is basically what
00:45:27.940
we're dealing with. Let's get to the comment section. My all new limited time sense spring
00:45:42.100
rain is here. You can light it up as a perfectly acceptable, uh, substitute for spring cleaning. I
00:45:47.820
know your wife will definitely agree. Why clean the house when you just light a candle and make it
00:45:51.480
smell nice. Get yours now at thecandleclub.com slash Walsh. I went on a date with a girl once who
00:45:57.160
was trying to defend Colin Kaepernick. I strongly disagree. The date was over in about 10 minutes.
00:46:02.300
That's a good call. And look, it's possible that the girl could just be very, could be ignorant,
00:46:07.160
not very thoughtful, sort of just adopting the approved point of view on a topic like Colin Kaepernick.
00:46:13.460
And in that case, maybe you could convince her otherwise. Maybe you could convert her to be a full-on
00:46:18.120
conservative. Maybe, but it's not, probably not worth the effort. It's not worth the gamble. So cut
00:46:24.720
your losses and move on. Especially if this is someone you don't even know. You've been on a date
00:46:27.720
for 10 minutes. You have no emotional attachment to them. You don't really lose anything by just
00:46:32.160
cutting it off. And so I think that was a smart move. I watched Love is Blind. Virginia also dumped
00:46:38.680
Devin at the altar. She was outraged at him for being a black conservative. The crazy thing is both
00:46:43.480
Sarah and Virginia likely found them attractive because of their conservative values, but felt
00:46:46.880
pressured to reject them because it's not hip. So two men were dumped at the altar for being
00:46:52.300
conservative in the same season? Or is this two different seasons? I don't know. Either way,
00:46:56.640
the real point here is why are you watching Love is Blind? That's, it's, you know, it's not good for
00:47:02.480
you. You know that. I mean, come on. I don't need to tell you that. These reality shows, they're
00:47:08.180
basically porn for women. And I don't mean because they're sexual. Well, they are, they are sexual often,
00:47:14.660
but that's not even what I mean. I just mean that they're trashy, lowest common denominator
00:47:19.780
stuff, and they appeal to the lowest, basest parts of you. Now, I don't understand the appeal. Like,
00:47:27.960
I could not sit and watch one of these shows for an hour, much less a season, much less multiple
00:47:34.320
seasons. I find them terribly, terribly dull and boring. But they're not for me, right? They are
00:47:42.200
basically for women, but they're not appealing to the better parts of your nature, right? They're
00:47:48.220
appealing to kind of the worst parts of you, which is what porn does. So for men, that's porn. For
00:47:55.540
women, it's stuff like this. And so I recommend finding other things to do with your time.
00:48:03.440
We need a special episode where Matt does an interview with his wife. I feel like that'd be
00:48:07.200
hilarious. You know, I've actually thought about doing a 60-minute-style hard-hitting interview
00:48:10.760
with my wife where I interrogate her about all the many controversies we've had over the years.
00:48:15.960
I've thought about doing that. For example, just as an example of one of the things that I would
00:48:21.000
take her task for, this is a recent thing. As you know, if you've listened to my show,
00:48:27.180
my wife for years has been trying to coerce me into agreeing to buy goats for some reason.
00:48:33.500
And I have remained steadfast against it. I have not relented. Her pressure campaign has failed.
00:48:40.760
But then the other day, out of the blue, we're just in the kitchen. I think it's first thing in the
00:48:48.240
morning. Okay, first thing in the morning. All right, I'm stumbling out, half awake. My wife's
00:48:55.280
like a morning person. She'll wake up. It's 6.05 a.m. and she's already singing. She's like Mary
00:49:03.120
Poppins singing through the house. That's not me. So it's first thing in the morning. Haven't even had a
00:49:09.140
cup of coffee yet. And she says, she asks me if she can get two chickens. So I just want to get
00:49:16.180
only two, just two chickens. Of course, I say, well, what do we need chickens for? Why do you want
00:49:22.320
chickens? Well, because eggs are expensive. I know eggs are expensive, but chickens are expensive.
00:49:29.060
You got to feed them. You got to do the whole thing. It's a whole thing. You got to get the
00:49:32.400
whatever, the chicken coop. And you got to, it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing is what it is.
00:49:38.120
There's expense that goes into it. And also, it's a whole thing. Which for me,
00:49:46.380
you understand, that's my main argument against everything in the family context. My main argument
00:49:52.900
against most things is just, yeah, it's a whole thing if we do that. I don't need to describe what
00:49:58.220
the thing is. It's a whole thing. I don't want to do a whole thing. But I agreed, because that's
00:50:03.380
the thing. She said two chickens, okay, whatever. It was early. I wasn't thinking straight. And so I
00:50:08.820
agreed, fine, get the two chickens, whatever. And then shortly after that, she starts talking about
00:50:17.760
how this is great because the chickens are a stepping stone to the goats. So it was all about
00:50:24.240
the goats all along. She's using these poor chickens, these poor chickens that we don't even
00:50:29.040
have yet. They're, they're just, they're, she's not even, it's dehumanizing to the chickens who aren't
00:50:35.420
human. It's de-chickenizing to the chickens or something. She's just using them as a gateway drug
00:50:42.620
to goats. So this is the kind of thing I have to deal with. And maybe I should interrogate my wife
00:50:51.760
on camera about it. It'd be like a Frost Nixon, except mainly focused on goats.
00:50:58.300
I still can't stop laughing about Matt's reaction to his boots picture at the presidential address
00:51:02.200
with the Speaker of the House and Ben. Go back and watch it for a good laugh.
00:51:05.820
I'm glad you think it's funny. The whole thing was a debacle for me. Actually, it was, it was,
00:51:12.880
the boots thing was only one of the wardrobe related crises to come out of my attendance at that
00:51:18.180
speech. I think that's the only one we talked about just because, you know, it's, it's, I thought
00:51:23.680
that was enough. That was enough. It was enough to talk about that. I didn't think we need to go
00:51:27.200
into all the details, but I didn't even mention how people were also accusing me of having tied my tie
00:51:33.600
too short. So that was also something. I've actually gotten multiple text messages from people,
00:51:41.220
friends of mine, or so I thought, criticized. Yeah, I saw you on camera. Your tie was too short. Okay,
00:51:46.380
thanks. Nothing I can do about that now. And I don't even think I mentioned this either. But
00:51:53.460
speaking of controversies with my wife, I don't think I mentioned this, that she, she actually
00:51:58.500
texted me immediately after the speech was over and told me that my fly was down, that I was on camera
00:52:07.780
four times and my fly was down. And I had a brief moment of pure panic because that's kind of like
00:52:17.280
the end of your career. I think there's something, you can't survive certain things. There's certain
00:52:20.620
images that are, if they're out there, you can't survive them. And you know, that's how precarious
00:52:25.460
this whole thing is. You have your fly down to the state of the union one time. It only takes one.
00:52:29.200
You don't get a redo. You don't get two times. Only one. And your career is over.
00:52:35.780
So I had a moment of pure panic, but then I went back and looked at the clips and I discovered that,
00:52:41.060
no, that's not the case. My fly was not down. This is my wife trolling me, I guess. And so this
00:52:46.740
is a big joke. It's a big practical, it's a big prank, a big practical joke. That instead of,
00:52:52.740
you know, I was just, I was at, I was at the state of the union with a joint session speech,
00:52:56.340
kind of a big deal. So you'd think she would text and say, Hey, what was it like meeting all the
00:53:01.980
cabinet officials and congressmen? What was that? No, instead it was, Hey, your fly was down, LOL.
00:53:07.960
But I can't be mad because it's exactly what I would do in her position. That is precisely what
00:53:12.120
I would do. This is the one thing about being a devoted troll as I am, is that you're going to get
00:53:18.140
it dished back to you constantly. And you gotta, you can't, you have to respect the game. You just have
00:53:23.200
to. And, and I do, but these are the things that I deal with. Mainstream media thinks you're too dumb
00:53:30.620
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00:53:34.360
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dailywire.com slash subscribe. Now let's get to our daily cancellation.
00:54:02.340
For our daily cancellation today, we have Sam Seder. You probably recognize the name because this is,
00:54:07.220
sadly, the second time I've mentioned it in a week. Last week, it was because his co-host was
00:54:12.000
laughing hysterically at a female athlete who sustained a traumatic brain injury at the hands of a trans male.
00:54:17.040
Now we have a story involving Sam himself. And as I mentioned last week, Sam has done
00:54:21.600
literally dozens and dozens of segments about me on his show. He's been begging for my attention for
00:54:27.920
years. He is one of my biggest fans. And now that I've mentioned his name twice in a week, Sam is no
00:54:33.840
doubt on cloud nine. And that's fine. I'm glad that I can make the little guy feel good about himself.
00:54:40.080
But in any event, Sam Seder recently did that thing where he sits in the middle of a crowd and
00:54:45.980
faces off against more than a dozen people who disagree with him in rapid succession. It's a
00:54:50.240
series you've probably seen called Surrounded. It's a kind of speed debate organized by Jubilee
00:54:56.580
media. And one after another in this debate, Sam's amateur opponents completely demolished him.
00:55:02.540
And there's one moment in particular that I want to focus on. And it's getting a lot of attention
00:55:09.020
What's the problem with xenophobic nationalism? Don't you think that's better for Americans in
00:55:13.160
general? Like xenophobic nationalism is better? We should have a coherent culture. Everyone should
00:55:18.800
be a part of the same culture. We should have assimilation. Which do you get to choose what
00:55:22.800
the culture is? We already have a dominant culture based on European and Christian values and
00:55:28.880
identity. That is the dominant culture. It's rooted in European identity. White. So your argument is
00:55:35.320
that has been the dominant culture. Just to be clear. And we're not letting people assimilate to
00:55:39.500
that. We're saying you should keep your culture. And this is why our culture is so divided. Your
00:55:43.220
argument is that Trump is good for those who want a dominant white European culture. I mean, that is
00:55:51.280
what America is. It's rooted in European identity and Christian values. That's what it has been.
00:55:57.700
Like, would you really disagree with that? What is it then if that's not the identity of America?
00:56:02.900
Well, I think the identity of America... For the majority of time, America's been a country. You
00:56:07.660
don't think that's been the identity? Well, actually, no. I think actually the identity of
00:56:13.760
America has been, you know, for better or for worse, a melting pot. Before I play the rest of
00:56:20.400
the conversation, notice what's already happened here. The woman, who, by the way, is named Sarah
00:56:25.020
Stock, presents a clearly defined view of American identity. She handles herself very well during the
00:56:31.620
whole exchange and deserves a lot of credit for it. Sarah says that America is rooted in
00:56:36.160
Christianity and European values, which is obviously true. But even if you disagree with
00:56:41.260
that for some reason, you'd be wrong. But even if you do, at least she's presenting some sort of
00:56:46.280
definition of what it means to be American. She's offering an affirmative explanation of American
00:56:51.320
culture. On the other hand, Sam cannot provide a definition at all. Instead, he offers a cliche. He says
00:56:56.640
America is a melting pot, without explaining what that means exactly. He simply implies that we've
00:57:01.520
always been a melting pot. And then for good measure, he says that the woman is advocating for
00:57:05.820
a dominant white culture, which is how Sam presumably wins all of his arguments with his
00:57:10.640
leftist friends, because anything white is automatically bad and bigoted and evil. So he could
00:57:14.760
just say, oh, well, so you're advocating for something white? And with his friends in his world,
00:57:20.280
that's enough. That's the end of the conversation. But he's in a world here with people where
00:57:24.940
that's not the end of the conversation. Because in this context, where the word white doesn't
00:57:30.480
inspire terror in everybody in the room, the tactic does not work. And so we're left with the
00:57:34.900
substance of what he's saying, which falls completely flat. The main problem with Sam's
00:57:39.540
argument, of course, is that America has not always been a melting pot, as that term is generally
00:57:45.620
understood. This country was composed of white Western European Christians, almost exclusively in
00:57:51.620
its first years. This is the core of America. Those are the people who formed this country.
00:57:58.040
And then afterwards, white Western European Christians were still the dominant demographic
00:58:02.160
for much of our history. To the extent that there was a melting pot in the United States,
00:58:06.280
it was among different kinds of European Christians, like continental Protestants versus
00:58:11.460
Irish or Italian Catholics. That was the melting pot. Now, as the conversation goes on,
00:58:16.520
the woman presses Sam on this point. And again, he has no response to it. Watch.
00:58:21.680
Yeah, maybe since like the 1960s, even then, like even we had this idea of a melting pot literally
00:58:27.460
means assimilation, too. It means melting. It means you're assimilating to the dominant culture.
00:58:33.200
Is that not what melting means? And now instead, we're saying there's something wrong with xenophobia.
00:58:37.940
No. I mean, look, I got to be honest with you. Like, you and I have a fundamental disagreement.
00:58:44.060
We will never see eye to eye on this. It's a choice. And people, I think what you're expressing,
00:58:49.620
though, is really what the Trump movement at its heart is about. And I think that's problematic.
00:58:56.840
I mean, I disagree. I don't think Trump's like anywhere close to being a Christian nationalist.
00:59:00.400
That's ridiculous. Like, Trump's basically a Democrat from like 15 years ago when it comes
00:59:04.840
So you don't think that he's conservative enough for you?
00:59:11.040
No, he's trying to pour a bunch of H-1Bs. Are you kidding?
00:59:14.360
Right. Oh, so you want to get them out, too? Yeah. No, I mean, I think you're making my argument for me.
00:59:22.940
You know, we hear about this idea of a melting pot. And there's some disagreement over the precise
00:59:29.700
meaning of the term melting pot. In the clip we just played, the woman, Sarah, debating Sam,
00:59:35.780
says that the term melting pot implies assimilation. Sam apparently has a different idea in mind.
00:59:42.520
He's probably thinking of a melting pot as a reduction to the lowest common denominator.
00:59:47.500
Whichever definition you use in this part of the debate, the woman who's debating, Cedar,
00:59:54.560
is correct that America certainly didn't become a melting pot by any definition of the term
01:00:00.120
until relatively late in the country's history. We first saw major immigration surges in the late
01:00:05.800
19th century, coming predominantly from Southern and Eastern Europe. And these surges, of course,
01:00:10.000
have intensified in recent years. According to census data, the foreign-born population of the United
01:00:13.960
States doubled from 1970 to 1990 from around 10 million to 20 million. And that's just the people
01:00:19.100
we're tracking with census data, which, of course, excludes illegal aliens. But, you know,
01:00:25.800
this melting pot stuff is almost beside the point anyway. Even if America is a melting pot, however
01:00:33.080
you define melting pot, that does not answer the question of identity. Melting pot is not an identity.
01:00:42.460
Let's just agree with Sam Cedar for a moment, just for the sake of argument. It's a melting pot.
01:00:46.080
Fine. Melting into what? And for what purpose? That's the question, Sam. What are we melting
01:00:55.580
into? Why? Imagine that I told you, let's say I told you about an exciting new organization that I
01:01:02.940
just founded. I said, I just founded an organization. You're going to love it. And you ask me, well,
01:01:08.880
what is the organization? And I say, oh, it's an organization with a bunch of different kinds of
01:01:13.500
people. It's a melting pot of people. Do you see how you would still have absolutely no clue what the
01:01:21.600
hell sort of organization it is? I would not have explained anything about what the organization
01:01:27.180
actually is or why it exists or what its purpose is. Yes, it has lots of different kinds of people.
01:01:35.180
Great. Why? What are they doing? What is the context? That's the question that Sam cannot answer.
01:01:43.900
He's debating national identity, but he has no, absolutely no, conception of what our identity
01:01:50.960
actually is. That's why when Sarah asks him, well, what do you, do you really not think it's that?
01:01:58.600
What do you think it is? He can't answer. According to leftists like Sam Seder, our country's identity
01:02:04.040
has nothing to do with religion, ethnicity, race, tradition, or borders or laws, right? Because he
01:02:13.600
would say that illegal aliens who come here are also just as much Americans as anybody else. So that
01:02:17.980
means that borders and laws also don't define the country. If that's the case, what is our country
01:02:22.660
exactly, Sam? What is it? What does it mean to be an American? What is our identity? Leftists like
01:02:29.900
Sam Seder can't answer that question. It's the what is a woman problem all over again. So they would
01:02:34.860
rather launch ad hominem attacks or filibuster than give you a coherent answer because they can't and they
01:02:40.680
know they can't. Guys like Sam, they can spit and sputter and tantrum all they want, but it won't
01:02:47.900
change the facts here. And the fact is that again, America was founded by Christians of Western European
01:02:55.100
descent. That is the culture that our country is rooted in. That's a fact. If the Chinese or the Arabs
01:03:05.160
had colonized North America had colonized North America and founded a nation here, it would be a
01:03:08.720
fundamentally different nation. This country, the USA, the country that we live in right now,
01:03:15.900
could not have been formed by any group other than Christians of Western European descent.
01:03:23.560
Now, other groups can form countries. Many groups have formed many countries, obviously,
01:03:28.300
but they could not have formed this country. This country is distinctly Christian and European at its
01:03:35.240
core. That is a fact. And guys like Sam have no response to that fact other than to cry about it.
01:03:42.400
And that's why in response to my posts on this subject, in which I simply asked him to define
01:03:46.940
American identity, Seder posted this inane message on X. He said, quote, I'm impressed how aggressively
01:03:52.800
these guys from Daily Wire are owning white nationalism and theocracy. So that's about,
01:03:59.480
oh, he called, oh, white nationalism. That's scary. Don't you get it, Sam? We don't care.
01:04:05.120
You can label it all you want. Oh, that's white nationalism. That's theocracy. That's Nazism.
01:04:10.140
Whatever. It doesn't matter to us. Don't you see that? You can, your labels don't mean anything to us.
01:04:15.840
They mean nothing, not a single thing. See, the emotional blackmail only works if we give a damn
01:04:23.760
what you think of us and we don't at all, not at all. So you're left with the questions still that
01:04:32.220
you can't answer. Once again, he refuses to articulate an actual response. Instead, he resorts
01:04:37.520
to these dumb labels that win debates in his circle, but he's left flailing and flabbergasted when
01:04:45.580
he finds himself surrounded by people who aren't afraid of the labels. We don't care what you call
01:04:50.420
us. The word white is not a pejorative to us. So now what, Sam? What do you have to say now?
01:04:57.920
That tactic's off the table. We don't care. What about the issue? You have anything to say about that?
01:05:03.600
And this was a theme of the whole episode of Surrounded, for what it's worth. It happened again
01:05:07.820
and again. In a separate conversation, for instance, Cedar was pressed about the foundations of his morality,
01:05:12.140
morality. And once again, he deflected. Watch. I don't base my understanding of civil society on
01:05:20.080
religion. And so we have a civil society. We have laws that we have decided as a society in a
01:05:26.800
democratic way. And for some people, it's okay for it to be informed by their religion. That's okay.
01:05:32.360
Perfect. So if tomorrow society comes together and we say, hey, trans folks don't deserve rights,
01:05:36.780
you would be okay with that? No, I would be against it. But I mean, it would be...
01:05:42.880
It would be morally right under your view. Not morally right. No, no, no. I'm not talking
01:05:46.380
about morals here. Okay. So here's where I'm getting to, right? Religious foundations provide
01:05:51.420
an ethical framework for one to live their life off of. I believe you can have an ethical framework
01:05:56.000
without religion. And if we take the leftist view to its logical tail end, to its extreme view,
01:06:00.780
you have low reproductive birth rates. You have a reproductive dead end. So two men together can't
01:06:06.560
reproduce unless they have to take from a healthy straight couple. Religion provides this foundation
01:06:11.520
where you do prioritize the nuclear family. So do you have a problem with gay people being married?
01:06:17.680
So all he has is deflection. That's his only available tactic. He's being pressed on the
01:06:21.260
foundations for his belief system. If it's not religion, then what is it? If it's the will of
01:06:25.720
the people, then how can you object to a popular law that offends trans folks, quote unquote?
01:06:30.820
How can you say that slavery or Jim Crow were ever wrong? They were the will of the people at one point.
01:06:37.560
And then when he realizes he doesn't have any grounds for rational objections, Sam asks the
01:06:41.800
guy whether he has a problem with gay people. So he resorts again to trying to shame the person
01:06:46.400
asking the question. He's hoping that you won't notice that his own belief system is completely
01:06:51.860
contingent on these precarious expedient factors. There's no deeper foundation whatsoever.
01:07:00.740
They can't articulate why trans rights are supposedly important any more than they can tell you
01:07:04.700
what it means to be American. Now, if you really press some leftists on this question of what does
01:07:11.140
it mean to be American, what they will probably respond is that they think that America is an idea.
01:07:18.280
But the problem with that is twofold. First of all, nations are tangible, physical things. They are
01:07:25.160
not abstractions. Ideas don't have laws. They don't have presidents. They don't have passports. Ideas
01:07:30.580
don't have militaries. And secondly, when you ask leftists about this, they won't go into any detail
01:07:36.980
about what this idea actually is. Okay, so they say America is an idea. You say, okay, fine. Again,
01:07:43.640
sake of argument, let's say America is an idea. What is the idea? Can you at least tell me that?
01:07:49.840
They say America is an idea, but they seem to have no idea about what this idea is.
01:07:55.740
And that's because the men who came up with the ideas that lie at the foundation
01:07:59.300
of our government were all Christians. They were Christian ideas. Human rights is a Christian idea.
01:08:09.520
It makes no sense, actually. Human rights make no sense outside of a Christian worldview. No sense at
01:08:15.640
all. You can't make sense of them. Because human rights, that's why it's endowed by the creator.
01:08:22.080
That is the philosophical framework of human rights. That they are these, it's something that
01:08:29.080
supersedes, that goes beyond, that is rooted in something that transcends governments and people
01:08:36.000
and voting and everything else. They're not just these subjective social constructs. Because if
01:08:44.840
human rights are social constructs, then they don't mean anything. They're not real. And that would
01:08:50.760
mean that if everybody agrees that black people should be enslaved, well, then that's it. That's the end
01:08:58.440
of the discussion. If you want to appeal beyond that to something outside of the government, something
01:09:04.520
greater, something bigger than the government, well, what is that? So in other words, it turns out that the
01:09:11.280
left also rejects the very ideas that they claim define our country. So America is not defined by
01:09:18.440
ethnicity, not defined by race, not defined by religion, not defined by borders, not defined by law,
01:09:23.360
not defined by culture, not even defined as it turns out by ideas. So I ask again, and Sam, I know you're
01:09:31.980
watching. I'm asking you, what is America? What defines it? What is our identity? If it's not any of
01:09:39.020
those things? Now, I'm not expecting that I'll get an answer because these are the contradictions and
01:09:43.980
inconsistencies that emerge when you spend five minutes talking to any leftist about their beliefs, whether
01:09:47.780
it's a random person off the street or a supposed intellectual like Sam Seder. No matter where you look,
01:09:54.120
the foundations of leftist understanding collapse the moment you apply any scrutiny to them whatsoever.
01:09:58.540
And that is why Sam Seder, who was just humiliated by random people who asked him the most basic questions
01:10:03.700
imaginable, is today canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you