The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1553 - Exposing The Coordinated Terror Campaign Against Elon Musk And Tesla

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, there is a coordinated campaign of terrorism against Elon Musk and

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00:01:55.340 One of the hardest things to do, especially when you've got a million other things going on in your life,

00:01:59.320 is to think about the political tactics of people that you don't agree with. If you're a conservative

00:02:03.680 with a full-time job, it's hard enough to keep track of what Republican politicians are saying and

00:02:08.760 what policies they're implementing. It's even harder to track what's going on with the other side,

00:02:13.420 especially since, if we're being honest, we usually don't want to think about it. But there's a

00:02:17.040 significant change in tactics that's taken place recently on the left in this country that,

00:02:21.720 at this point, cannot be ignored. We've known for a while that the left is now, once again,

00:02:26.220 openly celebrating political violence. That's been obvious since the BLM era and before.

00:02:32.520 What's changing more recently is that the left is becoming far more targeted in its attacks. Instead

00:02:36.860 of torching random car lots in Kenosha and shooting security guards in St. Louis to demonstrate their

00:02:42.680 solidarity with George Floyd, leftists are now becoming more specific, if not necessarily

00:02:48.140 discerning in their attacks. Like all terrorists, they're carefully choosing their victims to maximize

00:02:53.960 political impact. They tried to assassinate Trump twice, as we all remember. But now that Trump,

00:03:00.360 as president, has the full protection of the Secret Service, and what good it did him the first time

00:03:05.200 around, still, they're unleashing targeted violent attacks on people that they perceive to be,

00:03:11.140 if not Trump himself, supporters of Trump or enemies of their ideology, at least. And that

00:03:16.900 started with the murder of the United Healthcare CEO. But as we predicted, it's not stopping there.

00:03:24.140 We're entering a potentially long-lasting phase of deliberate, targeted left-wing terrorism in this

00:03:30.560 country, like the weather underground, but on steroids. This is a change that is not happening

00:03:37.140 by accident, obviously. In some cases, it's coordinated and very well-funded. But I want to

00:03:43.380 start by highlighting exactly what's happening, because for the most part, the national news media

00:03:46.980 is not doing so. And what's happening is this. All across the country, Kamala Harris voters have made

00:03:52.500 the conscious decision to attack anyone who owns a Tesla or who works at Tesla. And I'm not talking

00:03:58.580 about one or two people here. We're not talking about just one or two incidents across the country.

00:04:03.580 We're talking about mobs of Democrats who are assaulting people in public because of their

00:04:09.440 perceived political views. And they're perceiving those political views just based on the fact that

00:04:13.820 these people own a Tesla. You may have seen the footage of shootings, fire bombings, and riots that

00:04:19.640 have taken place at Tesla stores all over the country. I'll get to that in a second. But some of the

00:04:24.480 most remarkable footage in this respect comes from New Orleans this past Mardi Gras weekend.

00:04:30.320 And as part of the Orpheus parade, five Tesla Cybertrucks were carrying passengers through

00:04:35.120 uptown New Orleans. And as the vehicles passed for several miles, onlookers pelted the trucks with

00:04:41.820 objects they found on the street, everything from beads to road barriers. And at one point,

00:04:46.040 a man charged the trucks and began punching the glass, which he ultimately shattered. He also threw an

00:04:52.080 object at one of the passengers after he gained access to the back of the vehicle. The footage

00:04:56.360 from this convoy of Cybertrucks, it's truly incredible to watch. It's like something out of

00:05:00.920 a foreign country. Here are some of it as recorded by the camera on one of the trucks. Watch.

00:05:06.700 What's that?

00:05:26.980 Yes. We need to get off. We're getting beat to s*** by certain people throwing stuff,

00:05:33.820 jumping on the car, kicking the car, hitting the car. The other three cars in the convoy

00:05:38.820 are off.

00:05:39.020 On the next slide right there, you'll see a sergeant.

00:05:43.160 Oh, he's playing us up. One more and one more.

00:05:48.700 We've got to pull the medical emergency cars here.

00:05:50.960 Now, police were stationed all along the parade route. They saw everything that happened, but

00:05:57.700 apparently there were no arrests made. They sat by doing nothing as the mob inflicted thousands

00:06:03.480 of dollars worth of property damage solely because of the politics of the CEO of the company that made

00:06:08.460 those trucks, which again, does not even necessarily reflect the people that are driving the trucks.

00:06:14.660 Obviously, you would think. As you might've seen at one point in the footage, a mother encouraged

00:06:19.680 her young child to join in with the mob and pummel the truck. And here's what one of the vehicles

00:06:24.620 looked like afterwards. I'm going to play some more footage from this parade, this time from the

00:06:30.280 mob's perspective. And as you watch this, listen to the glee in their voices as they throw objects

00:06:35.220 at people inside the cyber trucks. Then ask yourself, when was the last time a mob of right-wing

00:06:40.300 protesters decided to team up and attack somebody solely because that person had purchased a product

00:06:46.080 they don't like? Has it ever happened in the history of the country? I mean, as critical as we were

00:06:51.700 about, say, Bud Light, did any mob of conservatives ever chase somebody down and pummel them for

00:06:56.940 ordering a Bud Light at a bar? I don't think so. But that's basically what happened in New Orleans

00:07:01.740 just a few days ago. Watch.

00:07:04.980 Why is everyone doing it? Oh, yes, I love you.

00:07:10.120 She's already in your beach. 1.00

00:07:13.600 Wait, I love New Orleans.

00:07:14.800 You can see the cop standing right there. You have the female cop standing right there. I'm

00:07:33.880 pretty sure throwing objects at a car is illegal. I think that's against the law. I think there are

00:07:40.600 like several laws you're breaking when you do that. No arrests. No one even say, no cops even

00:07:47.940 saying, hey, guys, knock it off. Now, beginning with this footage, not because it's the most extreme

00:07:53.220 example of violence I could find. We'll get to that. But because it illustrates how widespread this

00:07:58.480 mob-like mentality has become on the left. It's not just a handful of left-wing NGOs who are pushing

00:08:03.900 this, although that's also certainly happening. In reality, we're talking about hundreds, if not

00:08:08.520 thousands of people who are willing to make an American city feel like Fallujah for people who 0.97

00:08:13.340 happen to be inside a truck they don't like. Not even a truck they don't like, but a truck that was

00:08:17.760 made by someone they don't like. And of course, this footage received thousands of positive upvotes

00:08:23.260 on Reddit, which has become a central breeding ground for organizing and promoting left-wing

00:08:28.340 terrorism like this. You'll also find a lot of support on Reddit for the 41-year-old man who allegedly

00:08:33.860 just threw Molotov cocktails at a Tesla location in Oregon before returning shortly afterwards to

00:08:38.800 open fire on the business with an assault rifle. Watch.

00:08:42.500 41-year-old Adam Lansky Tuesday saying they've linked him to two separate incidents at the Salem

00:08:48.400 Tesla dealership. The first happened on January 20th when authorities say someone threw Molotov cocktails

00:08:55.500 at the dealership. Here you can see a suspect lighting an incendiary device in these new surveillance

00:09:01.580 images. That explosion eventually causing all of this damage. Then a month later, on February 19th,

00:09:08.580 documents show someone shot at the building and a vehicle, leaving behind even more damage.

00:09:14.520 Authorities say the suspect used an AR-15 style rifle with a suppressor. Investigators say Lansky

00:09:20.740 is the suspect captured on surveillance video throwing the explosive devices in January and his car could be

00:09:27.400 seen parked near the dealership during the second attack in February, linking him to both incidents.

00:09:34.100 Now, Andy Ngo has reported that Adam Lansky, the man accused of committing these attacks,

00:09:38.540 is a Portland trans activist who uses the alias Allison Tesla in his activism and in his pornography

00:09:45.380 career, unfortunately. Meanwhile, other trans activists, another trans activist, Justin Thomas Nelson,

00:09:51.500 aka Lucy Grace Nelson, is accused of repeatedly attacking another Tesla dealership in Loveland,

00:09:56.500 Colorado. Justin Nelson allegedly spray painted the words Nazi cars on some of the vehicles and then

00:10:02.060 returned days later with, again, Molotov cocktails before he was arrested. So he was booked and then

00:10:09.260 let out on bond and then he attacked the same Tesla location again. Of course, local news reports refer to

00:10:15.620 Justin as a woman because even when trans identifying males are allegedly committing acts of arson, we have

00:10:21.480 to respect their false identities apparently. Odds are, if you get your news from the mainstream press,

00:10:27.220 you probably were not aware of any or most of this. You didn't know that two trans-identifying Antifa

00:10:33.800 activists are accused of attempting to firebomb Tesla dealerships in just the past month. And for that

00:10:38.040 matter, you certainly weren't aware that a trans-identifying suspect named Ryan Michael English,

00:10:42.620 otherwise known as Riley English, was arrested just a month ago after arriving in D.C. with,

00:10:47.560 again, Molotov cocktails with the intention of assassinating members of Trump's cabinet.

00:10:52.820 And that's according to court documents which state that Ryan has confessed to that crime.

00:10:57.840 So this is not just leftists attacking people, but it's very often trans-leftists. So that's an

00:11:05.600 awful lot of violence that's coming from a small subset of the population in a very short period of time.

00:11:11.420 It's enough to make you wonder if men who pretend to be women might not be the most mentally stable

00:11:16.840 individuals. And as these are just the suspects we know about, just a day after the FBI identified

00:11:25.080 the suspect in the first attack on the Tesla store in Oregon, there was another shooting

00:11:29.500 at a different Tesla location near Portland. Watch.

00:11:35.820 Police tape bullet holes and shattered glass. Crews spent the day cleaning up the Tesla dealership

00:11:40.900 after investigators say someone shot it up overnight Thursday, causing tens of thousands of dollars in

00:11:46.020 damage. When employees showed up to work this morning, that's when they discovered the damage.

00:11:50.100 Tigard police say someone fired at least seven shots, damaging three cars and shattering windows.

00:11:55.140 Fortunately, it happened overnight when employees were gone.

00:11:58.020 I think the concerning thing for the employees is that it happened at all and that one of those

00:12:01.160 shots went into an office and into a computer monitor. Ultimately, we're just thankful that nobody

00:12:05.320 was hurt. These attacks are not just happening on the West Coast, of course. In Massachusetts,

00:12:09.360 someone set fire to several Tesla supercharger locations, which Tesla owners use to charge their

00:12:15.180 vehicles away from home. They're like gas stations for electric vehicles. Listen.

00:12:20.880 Each charger charred in various shades of black. Evidence of the fire that broke out in this

00:12:26.860 Littleton parking lot last night. And the fire chief says these flames were no accident.

00:12:32.240 At this point, it does appear that it was a set fire. Around 1 a.m., firefighters were called to

00:12:38.660 Constitution Ave and found seven Tesla charging stations up in flames. They burned for nearly an

00:12:45.440 hour until electricity was finally cut to the units, a challenge for firefighters. The electricity is one

00:12:51.920 of our bigger issues that we're dealing with and making sure that not only the public, but the

00:12:56.940 firefighters are safe. So we kept our distance from the charged electrical equipment. And although

00:13:01.840 investigators won't say what evidence was left behind, they do say it suggests arson.

00:13:07.680 It's suspicious based on the evidence that was found on scene.

00:13:11.520 Going back to the Bud Light analogy, can you imagine, can you imagine if during the Bud Light boycott,

00:13:18.880 if even one Bud Light warehouse had been vandalized by just one incident? Or can you imagine even one person

00:13:29.040 drinking a Bud Light had something thrown at them by an angry conservative? One incident like that,

00:13:35.840 just one. And I mean, the FBI would have been knocking on my door as one of the people leading

00:13:41.640 the boycott. Like there would have been FBI investigations, mass media hysteria. Meanwhile,

00:13:48.560 you have these Tesla locations across the country that are being set on fire. And the local media

00:13:56.240 will report it as isolated incidents, but there's nobody in corporate media saying, hey, look what's

00:14:01.920 going on here. There's a campaign underway here. So within about 48 hours, by the way, Tesla had that

00:14:07.600 location that we just saw up and running again. So they were able to recover quickly from this

00:14:11.120 particular act of vandalism, which every sane person would object to. But if you go on the Boston

00:14:16.320 subreddit, you'll find that, which is not a place for sane people, you'll find they don't object to

00:14:22.280 this arson attack at all. Here's one post on the Boston subreddit, for example. As you can see,

00:14:27.460 they're sarcastically saying that weather probably caused the blaze and that it's no big deal.

00:14:32.500 Thousands of people are upvoting posts like this. There's similar enthusiasm in New York where

00:14:36.600 protesters were just removed after attempting to shut down a Tesla store there. And those are protests,

00:14:42.300 according to Elon Musk, that involved at least in part organizations that have received substantial

00:14:47.560 funding from George Soros' nonprofits over the years. But regardless of Soros' culpability, there's

00:14:53.220 really no other way to interpret what's happening here. We are witnessing a campaign of terrorism by

00:14:58.320 the left, which is openly being celebrated, if not coordinated, by thousands of other leftists using

00:15:03.420 platforms like Reddit. And it's leading everyday people to physically assault Tesla owners at every

00:15:10.040 opportunity. So this is footage from New York, for example. We don't have sound for this one. So

00:15:15.320 in case you can't see it, it's some guy running alongside a cyber truck, punching it repeatedly

00:15:20.940 and giving the middle finger to the occupants. And then at the end of the footage, a police car

00:15:26.200 appears in frame. And of course, the officer does absolutely nothing. These kinds of attacks are

00:15:30.400 becoming so common now that it's impossible to keep up with all of them. Late Sunday, the reporter,

00:15:35.080 Jonathan Cho, uploaded this footage of cyber trucks on fire in Seattle in yet another suspected arson

00:15:42.100 attack. Oh, my gosh. A Tesla cyber truck is on fire. All right. There's a fleet of cyber trucks right

00:15:52.600 now. Unbelievable. Seattle fire on the scene. Now, this probably goes without saying, but no matter how hard

00:16:01.500 you look, you will not find a single Democrat Party politician who is willing to condemn any of this.

00:16:06.620 Not a single one. Not one. Not a single one. The party of democracy is completely silent as left-wing

00:16:13.360 terrorists commit acts of political violence all over the country for the express purpose of

00:16:18.660 intimidating Elon Musk and anyone who dared to vote for Donald Trump. And we all know why that is,

00:16:23.940 because they all endorse it. The Democrat Party and the media outlets they effectively control have no

00:16:29.000 problem with destroying the property of anyone they believe is a conservative. We know that.

00:16:33.940 We know they don't respect property rights or human rights in general. We saw how they reacted when

00:16:39.460 entire city blocks were being burned down. So, you know, a Tesla dealership is nothing to them.

00:16:44.120 They also don't mind destroying Tesla, one of the most important companies in the United States,

00:16:47.780 which employs more than 100,000 people in the process of all this. And these are people who are

00:16:53.300 not interested in progress or the advancement of human civilization. They are the enemies of both.

00:16:58.660 And as if to prove that point, MSNBC anchors recently celebrated the explosion

00:17:02.400 of SpaceX's Starship during a recent test launch. And this is a test launch that, in case you missed

00:17:08.760 it, included the catch of the booster rocket, which is one of the most remarkable technological

00:17:13.820 achievements of all time. Okay, being able to catch these rockets out of the air is one of the most

00:17:23.820 significant scientific advancements anyone has ever achieved in the entire history of humanity.

00:17:30.560 But over at MSNBC, they don't even mention the booster catch, of course. Instead, they burst out

00:17:36.060 into song because the Starship itself had exploded. Watch.

00:17:39.040 Elon Musk. On Thursday, a SpaceX Starship rocket exploded just minutes into its test flight.

00:17:46.840 The FAA temporarily stopped air traffic around Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm Beach, and Orlando.

00:17:53.140 It is the second consecutive Starship test flight from Elon Musk's company to end with destruction.

00:17:59.920 All I can think about was, oh, I can't think.

00:18:03.140 Oh, please don't. That's good. That's good. We got it. We understand how painful that was for y'all out there.

00:18:13.340 My suggestion for Elon, his response to all of this was rockets are hard. And Mr. Musk, if they're so hard,

00:18:21.460 why don't you go back to your day job and work that out and leave those of us who do government to do

00:18:28.400 government? Because you can't do both. And clearly you're failing right now at both. Your rockets are

00:18:34.780 blowing up and the government's blowing up. So I suggest you concentrate on the one thing you think

00:18:40.540 you know more about and do that and leave the rest to those of us who know a little bit of how to

00:18:48.800 provide services to people who need them and make the government function.

00:18:52.180 Did you guys see the tweet from Representative Jasmine Crockett about this?

00:18:56.820 Oh, yes.

00:18:58.340 Who is it the guy that keeps blowing stuff up literally and figuratively is firing people claiming that they are

00:19:04.760 failures? We know his failures have nothing to do with DEI because he doesn't believe in it, but he'd possibly be

00:19:10.460 succeeding right now if he did. You see, clearly there's a lot of unqualified people running this thing. 0.99

00:19:16.100 Yeah, go back to your day job, Elon Musk. Go back to your day job. You're clearly failing. You're

00:19:24.720 building rockets that are going to go to Mars and catching them out of the sky, which NASA never

00:19:30.740 figured out how to do in decades. Just go back to your day job. You know, just speaking about the end

00:19:39.140 of that clip there, we've done a lot of segments recently about how utterly dumb and inane Jasmine 0.97

00:19:44.360 Crockett is, but really all we had to do is play that clip. If only Musk had more DEI hires, maybe 0.93

00:19:49.360 Starship wouldn't have exploded. That's the logic they're going with in the Democrat Party and at

00:19:54.180 MSNBC. It's just how utterly shameless these people are. Because as we all know, when you need 0.85

00:19:59.900 to achieve something that's never been achieved before in human history, you call in the DEI hires.

00:20:05.660 After all, DEI hires are how NASA landed on the moon. Oh wait, no, that's not how that worked,

00:20:09.460 is it? It's exactly when they weren't doing DEI, when all the astronauts were just white men. You 0.63

00:20:15.320 know, that's when NASA was actually achieving things. But it's the exact opposite of that,

00:20:20.520 the exact opposite. Anyway, of course, none of these people, even Jasmine Crockett, believe any

00:20:25.300 of this nonsense. For all their demonization of billionaires and corporations, the truth is that

00:20:29.400 the left has this intense hatred for Elon because they see him as a class traitor. They know that the

00:20:37.400 wealthy are supposed to be on their side. Elon, as not only an uber-wealthy guy, but also a man of

00:20:43.680 great scientific achievement, should be a devotee to their cause. That's why they kind of reserve for

00:20:54.080 him this special kind of hatred, the special kind of hatred that you have not just for enemies,

00:20:58.860 but for traitors. That's how they see him. Just think for a moment about the absurdity of the clip

00:21:05.460 we just watched. Again, this man is building reusable rockets for the purpose of making space

00:21:11.040 travel affordable enough that we can colonize Mars in the near future. The whole point of these

00:21:16.100 test launches is to gather data so that the next launch in just a few weeks can be a success. That's

00:21:21.320 why nobody, no person was on board the Starship. It's a test flight. And these test flights clearly

00:21:27.480 work, as anyone familiar with SpaceX's history and its progress in just the past decade understands

00:21:32.460 very well. But increasingly, few people on the left actually care about SpaceX or Tesla or Elon Musk or

00:21:38.900 any of that. Instead, they care about political control, which they're obviously losing. So in

00:21:43.400 some cases, they're resorting to terrorism instead. And on television, they're turning to juvenile,

00:21:48.420 barely literate criticism of a space program they can't begin to comprehend.

00:21:54.840 It's difficult not to be reminded of Teddy Roosevelt's famous speech on insufferable people

00:22:00.200 like this from all the way back in 1910. It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out

00:22:05.380 how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. I won't recite

00:22:09.880 the whole thing for you, but if you don't know it, you should Google it. Because there's no better way

00:22:15.180 to describe cable news hosts who laugh while a man builds rockets to Mars. Shut out of political

00:22:23.340 relevance, leftists are turning to violence and terrorism. And they're only going to intensify

00:22:28.220 their efforts in the coming weeks. But what we know is that with every arson attack and every

00:22:34.240 insufferable segment on MSNBC, they're only highlighting two things. First of all, they are

00:22:39.760 irrelevant. And second, the men in the arena, the people who are actually committed to moving this

00:22:46.140 country forward and achieving things aren't going anywhere. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:24:25.000 I gotta say. New York Post reports, President Trump on Monday called for a fellow Republican to

00:24:31.100 challenge Representative Thomas Massey in a primary election over the Congressman's opposition to a

00:24:36.040 continuing resolution that would keep the government from shutting down. Massey, a hardline

00:24:40.220 conservative, has pledged to vote against a Trump-backed measure that would increase defense

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00:24:49.360 The bill, which cleared the House Rules Committee on Monday, has earned the support of the Conservative

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00:25:19.020 He should be primaried, and I will lead the charge against him.

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00:25:32.780 The people of Kentucky won't stand for it. Just watch. Do I have any takers? Says Trump.

00:25:41.720 Okay, this is wrong. Trump is wrong on this. Thomas Massey is one of our best congressmen by far and

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00:26:02.780 He's against that, and so he's voting against it. You know, and you can agree or disagree with him,

00:26:09.380 but to call for him to be ousted from Congress and primaried is just wrong. It really is wrong.

00:26:18.800 And that is, again, regardless of how you feel about the continuing resolution

00:26:25.920 and the budget and, you know, if you think that it's okay that they're going to increase defense

00:26:31.140 spending or not, regardless of that. If Trump had just put out a tweet or a truth, what do they call it?

00:26:42.400 The truth. If he put out a post on his platform and said, hey, we're trying to get this CR passed.

00:26:50.260 Thomas Massey is not for it. I really disagree with him. You know, why don't you reach out to

00:26:56.180 him and try to convince him? Whatever. I know that's not Trump's style to approach things that

00:27:01.500 way, but if he had said that, I wouldn't be talking about this. I don't think it'd be a big deal.

00:27:07.160 Okay. He disagrees with Thomas Massey. That's fine. You can criticize him harshly if you want to.

00:27:13.540 That's fine too. It's always okay to criticize politicians, but this is going way beyond that.

00:27:21.780 You're trying to get him ousted from Congress, but you're throwing down the gauntlet that you

00:27:27.720 personally will try to get him removed from Congress through a primary. And listen, I know that guys like

00:27:35.080 Massey can be frustrating if you want him to go with the program because he's not a go with the

00:27:40.960 program type, but you need guys like that in Congress. I don't care. Even if you find them

00:27:47.800 annoying sometimes, you need them. Massey is very much in the Ron Paul kind of tradition.

00:27:54.220 He's not going to vote for increased spending. He's not going to go along with stuff just to go along

00:27:58.820 with it. Right? When all the Republicans are saying, hey, come on, Tom, what? We're all doing it.

00:28:04.600 Jump in. The water's fine. Thomas Massey is going to be one of the few guys who's like,

00:28:09.560 yep, I don't agree with it. I'm not doing it. Sorry.

00:28:13.880 So you could call him a bit of a party pooper at times, but you need guys like that. You need guys

00:28:21.020 like that. Those guys are not the problem. The Republican party has plenty of problems. 0.99

00:28:29.240 Thomas Massey is not one of them. And you know what? I'll tell you, if you know why you need guys

00:28:36.360 like that, I'll tell you why. Because when something like COVID happens, you need your Thomas Masseys

00:28:45.720 because they are going to be the only people who stand against the madness. Massey was one of the

00:28:54.080 very, very few Republicans to stand up against the COVID madness from the beginning.

00:29:00.860 He was against the vaccine, the vaccine mandates, the lockdowns, the masking mandates,

00:29:07.660 the stimulus checks that were handed out, which proved to be a quite disastrous decision.

00:29:16.620 He was against all of that. And he was right. And that's why you need Massey there. You need him

00:29:21.540 because you know that a guy like Massey is going to get those issues right. 1.00

00:29:27.380 And when Republicans are banding together to do something dumb, you can guarantee that Massey 0.82

00:29:32.680 will not be in that group. He's one of those guys. And again, we need those guys. To be clear, 0.98

00:29:38.300 you can feel however you want about the continuing resolution. That to me doesn't even matter that

00:29:44.500 much. We go through this periodically. Every few months, it's another big panic. Oh, the government's

00:29:49.580 going to shut down. The government's going to shut down. I don't know how many, just in the time I've

00:29:53.080 been doing this podcast for six or seven years, how many times have we had this news cycle where

00:29:57.060 there's a big panic because the government's going to shut down? 50 times? I mean, it's constant.

00:30:02.360 It's a constant thing. And so I'm not even interested in talking about that. It bores me to death

00:30:07.160 because it doesn't matter if you think Massey is right or wrong about this. The point is that

00:30:12.580 trying to kick the guy out of Congress is foolish. Here's a fun challenge. Here's an activity. You 0.99

00:30:19.080 should try this. If you think that Massey should be primaried, you clearly believe that he's one of

00:30:24.680 the worst Republicans in Congress if you want him to be primaried. Because I assume that you don't

00:30:29.660 support primarying the best Republicans in Congress. I would hope you wouldn't support that.

00:30:34.260 So here's the challenge. Try to come up with a list of 10 elected Republicans with a better

00:30:40.820 voting record over the last 10 years than Thomas Massey. Go ahead. Give me 10. If you want the guy

00:30:52.600 ousted, you must have at least 10 guys in Congress who you think are better than Thomas Massey.

00:30:59.220 You must be able to prove that he's not a top 10 Republican. I'll make it easier. Give me five.

00:31:06.460 Give me five. Give me five elected Republicans with a better voting record than Thomas Massey.

00:31:13.720 I'll wait. I mean, actually, I won't wait because I'll be waiting forever because he can't do it.

00:31:17.640 So this is a mistake by Trump. It's a mistake on the merits. It's also a political mistake.

00:31:21.120 This is a political miscalculation by Trump. Trump is usually very good at picking battles

00:31:26.800 that he can win. He's very good at that. He's got a great instinct for it. But as I said,

00:31:31.360 nobody bats 1,000. Nobody's right all the time. And in this case, his instincts fail them because

00:31:35.960 this is not the politics of it. Put aside the merits. The politics of it are not good.

00:31:42.600 Thomas Massey, a primary challenge against Thomas Massey in Kentucky will fail. He is very popular.

00:31:52.220 He's very popular with the grassroots across the country. He's popular on social media with people

00:31:57.940 on the right. But most importantly, and all that stuff matters politically too. Like you just go on,

00:32:06.920 and I'm not saying this is the be all and end all, but it does matter that if you go on X right now

00:32:10.440 and you look at the conversation about Thomas Massey and Trump's attempts to sort of demonize

00:32:14.400 him and turn him into public enemy number one, it is at best very divided on the right about this.

00:32:21.080 And there's a lot of grassroots conservative support for Massey against Trump on this. And

00:32:29.860 that doesn't happen often. So that alone shows you that this is probably not the fight that he wanted

00:32:35.200 to pick. But all of that is, you know, that's secondary to the fact that what's most important

00:32:42.600 is that Thomas Massey is very popular with his constituents. We know that. We don't have to

00:32:46.500 speculate because they keep reelecting him. They keep reelecting him easily. His constituents love

00:32:51.200 him. And of course they love him because he does what he promises to do for his constituents. His

00:32:56.160 constituents in Kentucky, in his district, vote him in there because they want him to vote against

00:33:00.580 stuff like this. That's why they vote. You might not, you know, if you live somewhere else and you're

00:33:04.900 not a Thomas Massey constituent, you might feel differently. You might wish that Thomas Massey

00:33:08.400 did something else, but he's not actually there to represent you. Thomas Massey doesn't represent me.

00:33:13.260 I live in Tennessee. He represents his constituents and he's doing what his constituents want him to do.

00:33:17.120 That's his job. So, um, so a primary challenge is going to fail. And Trump is kind of throwing down

00:33:26.700 the gauntlet. He's calling the shot, but it's not going to work. Who's going to primary Thomas

00:33:32.520 Massey? Who's going to step up to that? Who wants to be the guy? You're not going to, you're not going

00:33:37.080 to get a real conservative. You're not going to get a real conservative with any kind of political

00:33:40.400 future who wants to step up to the plate to be the guy to primary Thomas Massey and then lose.

00:33:46.000 Um, so you're not going to get that. What you're going to get, here's what's going to happen.

00:33:49.060 I guarantee it. I guarantee it. You can, you know, come back and tell me I'm wrong later.

00:33:52.760 Clip this out. If I prove to be wrong, I won't be. If he gets primaried, if a primary challenge

00:33:58.320 even gets off the ground, which is a big if, but if it does, it's going to be a challenge from the

00:34:02.860 left. It's going to be someone who's more liberal than Thomas Massey and more establishment. So this

00:34:07.860 is going to be an establishment liberal challenge from the left against Thomas Massey. And Trump has

00:34:14.280 already signed up to support whoever that person is, right? Against a grassroots conservative,

00:34:22.020 very popular congressman. Uh, it's, it's just not, it's, it's not the right approach. It's bad

00:34:30.840 politics, bad politics. All right. So there was a rally, uh, in DC, I assume as always for international

00:34:38.140 women's day over the weekend, a man got up there to lecture the crowd of women about what it means

00:34:43.900 to be a woman. And he's kind of trying to flip these, doing the uno reverse and trying to flip the,

00:34:49.680 what is a woman question around on conservatives. And, uh, let's see, let's see how that worked out. 1.00

00:34:55.500 The cis women, BIPOC women have to do it for white women. All women have to do it for men. And we are 0.88

00:35:01.500 sick of it. It was women teaching me that there is no definition that anyone can find to define what 1.00

00:35:10.480 is a woman that excludes me. That does not also exclude millions of cisgender women, women born

00:35:17.960 without a uterus, women born with chromosomal incongruities, women with hormone imbalances,

00:35:23.220 women with facial hair. According to the Boston Children's Hospital, one in every 5,000 women is

00:35:29.660 born without a vagina. There is no way to say that trans women do not belong without also saying 0.99

00:35:35.480 to that all of them are not women either. And I dare you to say to your, their faces, they are not. 0.91

00:35:41.380 So there's the challenge. He says that we cannot come up with a definition of woman that does not

00:35:47.320 exclude millions of quote unquote cis women. And by cis women, of course we mean biological women. And by

00:35:54.200 biological women, we just mean women, you know, actual women. So, but, but to use his language, he's saying

00:36:01.040 that we cannot come up with a definition of woman that would exclude him as a trans identified male, but

00:36:10.740 also, but not also exclude millions of quote unquote cis women. So that's the challenge. And I'd be a real

00:36:20.000 hypocrite if somebody tried to flip the what is woman challenge around on me and I failed to answer 0.87

00:36:25.540 it. So I'll take that on, sir. I will take that on. Can I come up with an answer to what is woman that 0.99

00:36:31.840 does not exclude millions of actual women? I can. Here it is. Adult human female. Okay. There you go.

00:36:42.520 Done. Next question. So that's the answer. That is the answer to the, to the riddle. Adult human female

00:36:49.180 covers all women. That's what's beautiful about the definition. That's what's beautiful about any

00:36:55.060 definition of anything is that it's, is that it covers all the things that it's defining and none

00:37:00.700 of the things that it's not. That's what it means. That's what is necessary. That's what makes it a

00:37:05.220 definition. So women without uteruses and women who are infertile and women with physical deformities,

00:37:12.640 women with facial hair, women with hormone imbalances, all of them are female. 0.98

00:37:20.780 Okay. A woman could have a full on beard and no, and she could be completely infertile and she could 1.00

00:37:26.980 have no uterus and she would still be a female. I mean, she could have no uterus, a beard, no arms, 1.00

00:37:36.280 no legs, no eyes, no ears. I mean, yeah, it's, she could, she could lose every part of her body that

00:37:45.460 would not kill her to lose. And she would still be a woman. She would still be entirely a woman. 0.99

00:37:52.140 She would be as much a woman as any other woman walking around with all of their body parts intact. 0.99

00:37:57.180 Okay. That's because that's the definition because her species has not changed.

00:38:03.220 So you take a woman and you start removing parts like a Mrs. Potato Head doll. It doesn't matter how 0.99

00:38:12.200 many parts are gone. Okay. Because, because the species, like there's no amount of parts of a person

00:38:18.200 that you can take away that would change their species, you see, or, or, or their sex. You know,

00:38:29.700 it's like, you can't, you can't take away any part of a human and change their species to some other

00:38:34.320 species. You can't take away parts of a, of a, of a man and change his sex, take away parts of a woman 0.79

00:38:40.200 and change her sex. Species, sex, these things are immutable characteristics. They're inherent 0.56

00:38:48.100 traits. They cannot be changed. There's nothing you can add that will change a person, a, the

00:38:54.440 species of a human being or the sex of a human being. There's nothing you can take away that will

00:38:59.040 change that. There are a lot of other traits that can be changed. There are descriptive traits.

00:39:06.200 There are adjectives that can be changed by adding and taking away from a person.

00:39:11.860 But adult human female, species and sex included in the definition, those two things cannot change.

00:39:26.020 And, you know, it's amazing that we've been having this argument for years and we've responded to all

00:39:32.140 of these inane counter arguments a million times. And yet they still come at us with, with stuff like

00:39:39.380 this. They still think that infertility and female facial hair is some kind of decisive

00:39:46.320 fact in their favor. They still think apparently that if you add facial hair to woman, you've changed

00:39:54.260 her sex. Uh, they think it's some sort of Trump card, which of course it's not. All right. One other, 0.57

00:40:02.580 a clip from a protest, which, you know, these, it's a daily occurrence. This is a, this latest

00:40:11.120 protest is against Doge in the Capitol. Uh, and you know, we didn't get what we all expected,

00:40:16.600 at least what I expected. Uh, I'll say, which was one big mass protest after Trump's win. I thought

00:40:21.660 that that would happen. I mean, it's what happened the first time he won. We got the big women's march

00:40:25.740 in DC that they claimed a million people showed up to. I don't think it was actually a million,

00:40:29.600 but it was hundreds of thousands of people. We didn't get that. Instead, we're getting something

00:40:32.540 distinctly more annoying, which is a never ending series of small, pitiful, little protests,

00:40:38.280 one after another, after another, after another, uh, unendingly. And at this one, a masked federal

00:40:44.040 worker or hopefully former federal, federal worker showed up to talk about how frightened she was

00:40:50.840 to receive an email asking her what she did last week. Watch this.

00:40:55.780 When you wake up or when you're on your weekend and you get the fork in the road message or you get

00:41:03.540 the subsequent five bullets. Hey, what the hell did you do? You lazy federal worker this week.

00:41:13.580 How frightening is it that someone on X, the owner of X speaks to you directly to say,

00:41:23.920 what did you do last week at work? And if you don't answer, I am going to fire you.

00:41:31.600 But even more egregious, the president comes out, the most powerful person in the land and endorses

00:41:41.240 that message. How do you think that makes federal workers feel?

00:41:47.880 You know, yesterday I talked about the lack of self-awareness of these people and how much I

00:41:51.360 envy it, frankly. And here we have yet another example, no self-awareness. And as an extension

00:41:56.200 of having no self-awareness, they also have no awareness of how other people think, right? This,

00:42:01.980 this is the thing that's really hampering the left right now. It's not so much their lack of

00:42:06.620 self-awareness. It's their lack of other awareness. It's their lack of, of understanding of how other

00:42:12.460 people think and feel. They can't get in our heads at all. They just don't understand it,

00:42:17.340 which means they can't persuade us. In order to persuade someone, you have to be able to understand

00:42:21.200 how they think. If you don't understand how they think and they're a total mystery to you,

00:42:26.460 you're not going to be able to persuade them. In fact, you can't even effectively demean or attack

00:42:33.260 somebody in an effective, in an effective way if you don't understand how they think.

00:42:39.060 You can't even hurt their feelings. Forget about persuading them. You can't hurt someone's

00:42:43.440 feelings if you don't understand how they think. It requires some basic understanding of how your

00:42:50.420 opposition thinks, which they don't have. So if I'm a federal worker and I really want to mobilize

00:42:57.220 people against Doge and against all the cuts to government, and I want to gain sympathy and support

00:43:03.580 from the public, which if you're one of these federal workers or ex-federal workers showing up

00:43:08.740 at a protest, you would think that that's what you want to do. That's why you're having a protest.

00:43:12.480 So if I'm in that spot, here's what I would do. And it's not that I want to give these people any

00:43:16.640 hints, but they're not paying attention to what I'm saying anyway, so it's fine. So here's what I

00:43:20.320 would do. I would get up there and I would say, you know, I got that email from Elon and I was happy

00:43:27.760 he sent it. I sent back 15 things that I did last week. My only complaint is that he didn't ask us to

00:43:35.080 give more things. I wanted to give a longer list. I want him to send more emails and ask for longer

00:43:41.720 because government is a thankless job. I'm slaving away at all hours, working hard at my desk job

00:43:48.380 from 8.30 a.m. to 2 p.m. every day. These are unbelievably hard hours. No one works like me in

00:43:55.460 the federal government and no one ever thanks me. It's a thankless job. I relish the opportunity. I

00:44:01.180 relish the opportunity to tell someone what I've done. It's about time they ask. You know what? I got

00:44:06.460 that email and I thought, thank God. It's about time someone asks me what I'm doing all the time.

00:44:10.620 I hope you sit down for a minute. I hope you have two hours. I'll tell you all the things I did last

00:44:13.840 week. I would say something like that because I would recognize that even if it's not actually

00:44:23.280 true of federal workers, if you're trying to persuade someone, that's how you would frame it

00:44:26.420 because I would recognize that, first of all, if I want people to be against cuts to federal jobs,

00:44:31.280 I need to persuade people that federal workers are doing a lot every day. And for another, I would

00:44:37.440 also recognize that the public is not going to sympathize with me if I cry about having to answer

00:44:42.420 a simple email. So I would not cry about it. If I wanted to cry about it, I would go home and I

00:44:47.200 would cry in the privacy of my own home. I would cry into my pillow at night about the mean, scary

00:44:52.340 email that I received. I would not do it in public because the whole point is to mobilize and persuade

00:44:57.020 the public. And I'm not going to do that by shouting, oh no, the email, the email frightened

00:45:03.220 me. That's scary email. But these protesters don't realize any of this because they have no

00:45:09.120 understanding of how other people's minds work. They don't understand, um, they don't understand

00:45:14.520 their own minds or anyone else's. They're like automatons. They're like essentially AI, but not 0.99

00:45:22.380 nearly as smart. Their AI without, without, with a fraction of the computing power is basically what

00:45:27.940 we're dealing with. Let's get to the comment section. My all new limited time sense spring

00:45:42.100 rain is here. You can light it up as a perfectly acceptable, uh, substitute for spring cleaning. I

00:45:47.820 know your wife will definitely agree. Why clean the house when you just light a candle and make it

00:45:51.480 smell nice. Get yours now at thecandleclub.com slash Walsh. I went on a date with a girl once who 0.58

00:45:57.160 was trying to defend Colin Kaepernick. I strongly disagree. The date was over in about 10 minutes.

00:46:02.300 That's a good call. And look, it's possible that the girl could just be very, could be ignorant, 1.00

00:46:07.160 not very thoughtful, sort of just adopting the approved point of view on a topic like Colin Kaepernick. 0.88

00:46:13.460 And in that case, maybe you could convince her otherwise. Maybe you could convert her to be a full-on

00:46:18.120 conservative. Maybe, but it's not, probably not worth the effort. It's not worth the gamble. So cut

00:46:24.720 your losses and move on. Especially if this is someone you don't even know. You've been on a date

00:46:27.720 for 10 minutes. You have no emotional attachment to them. You don't really lose anything by just

00:46:32.160 cutting it off. And so I think that was a smart move. I watched Love is Blind. Virginia also dumped 1.00

00:46:38.680 Devin at the altar. She was outraged at him for being a black conservative. The crazy thing is both 0.92

00:46:43.480 Sarah and Virginia likely found them attractive because of their conservative values, but felt

00:46:46.880 pressured to reject them because it's not hip. So two men were dumped at the altar for being

00:46:52.300 conservative in the same season? Or is this two different seasons? I don't know. Either way,

00:46:56.640 the real point here is why are you watching Love is Blind? That's, it's, you know, it's not good for

00:47:02.480 you. You know that. I mean, come on. I don't need to tell you that. These reality shows, they're

00:47:08.180 basically porn for women. And I don't mean because they're sexual. Well, they are, they are sexual often, 0.99

00:47:14.660 but that's not even what I mean. I just mean that they're trashy, lowest common denominator 0.98

00:47:19.780 stuff, and they appeal to the lowest, basest parts of you. Now, I don't understand the appeal. Like,

00:47:27.960 I could not sit and watch one of these shows for an hour, much less a season, much less multiple

00:47:34.320 seasons. I find them terribly, terribly dull and boring. But they're not for me, right? They are

00:47:42.200 basically for women, but they're not appealing to the better parts of your nature, right? They're 1.00

00:47:48.220 appealing to kind of the worst parts of you, which is what porn does. So for men, that's porn. For 0.97

00:47:55.540 women, it's stuff like this. And so I recommend finding other things to do with your time. 1.00

00:48:03.440 We need a special episode where Matt does an interview with his wife. I feel like that'd be

00:48:07.200 hilarious. You know, I've actually thought about doing a 60-minute-style hard-hitting interview

00:48:10.760 with my wife where I interrogate her about all the many controversies we've had over the years.

00:48:15.960 I've thought about doing that. For example, just as an example of one of the things that I would

00:48:21.000 take her task for, this is a recent thing. As you know, if you've listened to my show,

00:48:27.180 my wife for years has been trying to coerce me into agreeing to buy goats for some reason. 1.00

00:48:33.500 And I have remained steadfast against it. I have not relented. Her pressure campaign has failed.

00:48:40.760 But then the other day, out of the blue, we're just in the kitchen. I think it's first thing in the

00:48:48.240 morning. Okay, first thing in the morning. All right, I'm stumbling out, half awake. My wife's

00:48:55.280 like a morning person. She'll wake up. It's 6.05 a.m. and she's already singing. She's like Mary

00:49:03.120 Poppins singing through the house. That's not me. So it's first thing in the morning. Haven't even had a

00:49:09.140 cup of coffee yet. And she says, she asks me if she can get two chickens. So I just want to get

00:49:16.180 only two, just two chickens. Of course, I say, well, what do we need chickens for? Why do you want

00:49:22.320 chickens? Well, because eggs are expensive. I know eggs are expensive, but chickens are expensive. 0.96

00:49:29.060 You got to feed them. You got to do the whole thing. It's a whole thing. You got to get the

00:49:32.400 whatever, the chicken coop. And you got to, it's a whole thing. It's a whole thing is what it is.

00:49:38.120 There's expense that goes into it. And also, it's a whole thing. Which for me,

00:49:46.380 you understand, that's my main argument against everything in the family context. My main argument

00:49:52.900 against most things is just, yeah, it's a whole thing if we do that. I don't need to describe what

00:49:58.220 the thing is. It's a whole thing. I don't want to do a whole thing. But I agreed, because that's

00:50:03.380 the thing. She said two chickens, okay, whatever. It was early. I wasn't thinking straight. And so I

00:50:08.820 agreed, fine, get the two chickens, whatever. And then shortly after that, she starts talking about

00:50:17.760 how this is great because the chickens are a stepping stone to the goats. So it was all about

00:50:24.240 the goats all along. She's using these poor chickens, these poor chickens that we don't even 1.00

00:50:29.040 have yet. They're, they're just, they're, she's not even, it's dehumanizing to the chickens who aren't 1.00

00:50:35.420 human. It's de-chickenizing to the chickens or something. She's just using them as a gateway drug 0.99

00:50:42.620 to goats. So this is the kind of thing I have to deal with. And maybe I should interrogate my wife 1.00

00:50:51.760 on camera about it. It'd be like a Frost Nixon, except mainly focused on goats.

00:50:58.300 I still can't stop laughing about Matt's reaction to his boots picture at the presidential address

00:51:02.200 with the Speaker of the House and Ben. Go back and watch it for a good laugh.

00:51:05.820 I'm glad you think it's funny. The whole thing was a debacle for me. Actually, it was, it was,

00:51:12.880 the boots thing was only one of the wardrobe related crises to come out of my attendance at that

00:51:18.180 speech. I think that's the only one we talked about just because, you know, it's, it's, I thought

00:51:23.680 that was enough. That was enough. It was enough to talk about that. I didn't think we need to go

00:51:27.200 into all the details, but I didn't even mention how people were also accusing me of having tied my tie

00:51:33.600 too short. So that was also something. I've actually gotten multiple text messages from people,

00:51:41.220 friends of mine, or so I thought, criticized. Yeah, I saw you on camera. Your tie was too short. Okay,

00:51:46.380 thanks. Nothing I can do about that now. And I don't even think I mentioned this either. But

00:51:53.460 speaking of controversies with my wife, I don't think I mentioned this, that she, she actually

00:51:58.500 texted me immediately after the speech was over and told me that my fly was down, that I was on camera

00:52:07.780 four times and my fly was down. And I had a brief moment of pure panic because that's kind of like

00:52:17.280 the end of your career. I think there's something, you can't survive certain things. There's certain

00:52:20.620 images that are, if they're out there, you can't survive them. And you know, that's how precarious

00:52:25.460 this whole thing is. You have your fly down to the state of the union one time. It only takes one.

00:52:29.200 You don't get a redo. You don't get two times. Only one. And your career is over.

00:52:35.780 So I had a moment of pure panic, but then I went back and looked at the clips and I discovered that,

00:52:41.060 no, that's not the case. My fly was not down. This is my wife trolling me, I guess. And so this

00:52:46.740 is a big joke. It's a big practical, it's a big prank, a big practical joke. That instead of,

00:52:52.740 you know, I was just, I was at, I was at the state of the union with a joint session speech,

00:52:56.340 kind of a big deal. So you'd think she would text and say, Hey, what was it like meeting all the

00:53:01.980 cabinet officials and congressmen? What was that? No, instead it was, Hey, your fly was down, LOL.

00:53:07.960 But I can't be mad because it's exactly what I would do in her position. That is precisely what

00:53:12.120 I would do. This is the one thing about being a devoted troll as I am, is that you're going to get 0.53

00:53:18.140 it dished back to you constantly. And you gotta, you can't, you have to respect the game. You just have

00:53:23.200 to. And, and I do, but these are the things that I deal with. Mainstream media thinks you're too dumb

00:53:30.620 to see through their lies. They twist the narrative, manipulate the headlines and bury the truth. We 1.00

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00:53:52.540 dailywire.com slash subscribe. Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:54:02.340 For our daily cancellation today, we have Sam Seder. You probably recognize the name because this is,

00:54:07.220 sadly, the second time I've mentioned it in a week. Last week, it was because his co-host was

00:54:12.000 laughing hysterically at a female athlete who sustained a traumatic brain injury at the hands of a trans male.

00:54:17.040 Now we have a story involving Sam himself. And as I mentioned last week, Sam has done

00:54:21.600 literally dozens and dozens of segments about me on his show. He's been begging for my attention for

00:54:27.920 years. He is one of my biggest fans. And now that I've mentioned his name twice in a week, Sam is no

00:54:33.840 doubt on cloud nine. And that's fine. I'm glad that I can make the little guy feel good about himself.

00:54:40.080 But in any event, Sam Seder recently did that thing where he sits in the middle of a crowd and

00:54:45.980 faces off against more than a dozen people who disagree with him in rapid succession. It's a

00:54:50.240 series you've probably seen called Surrounded. It's a kind of speed debate organized by Jubilee

00:54:56.580 media. And one after another in this debate, Sam's amateur opponents completely demolished him.

00:55:02.540 And there's one moment in particular that I want to focus on. And it's getting a lot of attention

00:55:06.980 online. Here it is.

00:55:09.020 What's the problem with xenophobic nationalism? Don't you think that's better for Americans in 1.00

00:55:13.160 general? Like xenophobic nationalism is better? We should have a coherent culture. Everyone should

00:55:18.800 be a part of the same culture. We should have assimilation. Which do you get to choose what 0.99

00:55:22.800 the culture is? We already have a dominant culture based on European and Christian values and

00:55:28.880 identity. That is the dominant culture. It's rooted in European identity. White. So your argument is 0.81

00:55:35.320 that has been the dominant culture. Just to be clear. And we're not letting people assimilate to 0.98

00:55:39.500 that. We're saying you should keep your culture. And this is why our culture is so divided. Your

00:55:43.220 argument is that Trump is good for those who want a dominant white European culture. I mean, that is

00:55:51.280 what America is. It's rooted in European identity and Christian values. That's what it has been.

00:55:57.700 Like, would you really disagree with that? What is it then if that's not the identity of America?

00:56:02.900 Well, I think the identity of America... For the majority of time, America's been a country. You

00:56:07.660 don't think that's been the identity? Well, actually, no. I think actually the identity of

00:56:13.760 America has been, you know, for better or for worse, a melting pot. Before I play the rest of

00:56:20.400 the conversation, notice what's already happened here. The woman, who, by the way, is named Sarah

00:56:25.020 Stock, presents a clearly defined view of American identity. She handles herself very well during the

00:56:31.620 whole exchange and deserves a lot of credit for it. Sarah says that America is rooted in

00:56:36.160 Christianity and European values, which is obviously true. But even if you disagree with

00:56:41.260 that for some reason, you'd be wrong. But even if you do, at least she's presenting some sort of

00:56:46.280 definition of what it means to be American. She's offering an affirmative explanation of American

00:56:51.320 culture. On the other hand, Sam cannot provide a definition at all. Instead, he offers a cliche. He says

00:56:56.640 America is a melting pot, without explaining what that means exactly. He simply implies that we've

00:57:01.520 always been a melting pot. And then for good measure, he says that the woman is advocating for

00:57:05.820 a dominant white culture, which is how Sam presumably wins all of his arguments with his 0.98

00:57:10.640 leftist friends, because anything white is automatically bad and bigoted and evil. So he could 0.98

00:57:14.760 just say, oh, well, so you're advocating for something white? And with his friends in his world,

00:57:20.280 that's enough. That's the end of the conversation. But he's in a world here with people where

00:57:24.940 that's not the end of the conversation. Because in this context, where the word white doesn't

00:57:30.480 inspire terror in everybody in the room, the tactic does not work. And so we're left with the

00:57:34.900 substance of what he's saying, which falls completely flat. The main problem with Sam's

00:57:39.540 argument, of course, is that America has not always been a melting pot, as that term is generally

00:57:45.620 understood. This country was composed of white Western European Christians, almost exclusively in

00:57:51.620 its first years. This is the core of America. Those are the people who formed this country.

00:57:58.040 And then afterwards, white Western European Christians were still the dominant demographic

00:58:02.160 for much of our history. To the extent that there was a melting pot in the United States,

00:58:06.280 it was among different kinds of European Christians, like continental Protestants versus

00:58:11.460 Irish or Italian Catholics. That was the melting pot. Now, as the conversation goes on,

00:58:16.520 the woman presses Sam on this point. And again, he has no response to it. Watch.

00:58:21.680 Yeah, maybe since like the 1960s, even then, like even we had this idea of a melting pot literally

00:58:27.460 means assimilation, too. It means melting. It means you're assimilating to the dominant culture.

00:58:33.200 Is that not what melting means? And now instead, we're saying there's something wrong with xenophobia.

00:58:37.940 No. I mean, look, I got to be honest with you. Like, you and I have a fundamental disagreement.

00:58:44.060 We will never see eye to eye on this. It's a choice. And people, I think what you're expressing,

00:58:49.620 though, is really what the Trump movement at its heart is about. And I think that's problematic.

00:58:56.840 I mean, I disagree. I don't think Trump's like anywhere close to being a Christian nationalist.

00:59:00.400 That's ridiculous. Like, Trump's basically a Democrat from like 15 years ago when it comes 0.97

00:59:04.220 to social issues.

00:59:04.840 So you don't think that he's conservative enough for you?

00:59:07.260 Oh, definitely. Nowhere close. No.

00:59:09.020 He's not xenophobic enough for you?

00:59:11.040 No, he's trying to pour a bunch of H-1Bs. Are you kidding? 1.00

00:59:14.360 Right. Oh, so you want to get them out, too? Yeah. No, I mean, I think you're making my argument for me.

00:59:22.940 You know, we hear about this idea of a melting pot. And there's some disagreement over the precise

00:59:29.700 meaning of the term melting pot. In the clip we just played, the woman, Sarah, debating Sam,

00:59:35.780 says that the term melting pot implies assimilation. Sam apparently has a different idea in mind.

00:59:42.520 He's probably thinking of a melting pot as a reduction to the lowest common denominator.

00:59:47.500 Whichever definition you use in this part of the debate, the woman who's debating, Cedar,

00:59:54.560 is correct that America certainly didn't become a melting pot by any definition of the term

01:00:00.120 until relatively late in the country's history. We first saw major immigration surges in the late

01:00:05.800 19th century, coming predominantly from Southern and Eastern Europe. And these surges, of course, 0.51

01:00:10.000 have intensified in recent years. According to census data, the foreign-born population of the United

01:00:13.960 States doubled from 1970 to 1990 from around 10 million to 20 million. And that's just the people

01:00:19.100 we're tracking with census data, which, of course, excludes illegal aliens. But, you know,

01:00:25.800 this melting pot stuff is almost beside the point anyway. Even if America is a melting pot, however

01:00:33.080 you define melting pot, that does not answer the question of identity. Melting pot is not an identity.

01:00:42.460 Let's just agree with Sam Cedar for a moment, just for the sake of argument. It's a melting pot.

01:00:46.080 Fine. Melting into what? And for what purpose? That's the question, Sam. What are we melting

01:00:55.580 into? Why? Imagine that I told you, let's say I told you about an exciting new organization that I

01:01:02.940 just founded. I said, I just founded an organization. You're going to love it. And you ask me, well,

01:01:08.880 what is the organization? And I say, oh, it's an organization with a bunch of different kinds of

01:01:13.500 people. It's a melting pot of people. Do you see how you would still have absolutely no clue what the

01:01:21.600 hell sort of organization it is? I would not have explained anything about what the organization

01:01:27.180 actually is or why it exists or what its purpose is. Yes, it has lots of different kinds of people.

01:01:35.180 Great. Why? What are they doing? What is the context? That's the question that Sam cannot answer.

01:01:43.900 He's debating national identity, but he has no, absolutely no, conception of what our identity

01:01:50.960 actually is. That's why when Sarah asks him, well, what do you, do you really not think it's that?

01:01:58.600 What do you think it is? He can't answer. According to leftists like Sam Seder, our country's identity

01:02:04.040 has nothing to do with religion, ethnicity, race, tradition, or borders or laws, right? Because he

01:02:13.600 would say that illegal aliens who come here are also just as much Americans as anybody else. So that

01:02:17.980 means that borders and laws also don't define the country. If that's the case, what is our country

01:02:22.660 exactly, Sam? What is it? What does it mean to be an American? What is our identity? Leftists like

01:02:29.900 Sam Seder can't answer that question. It's the what is a woman problem all over again. So they would 1.00

01:02:34.860 rather launch ad hominem attacks or filibuster than give you a coherent answer because they can't and they

01:02:40.680 know they can't. Guys like Sam, they can spit and sputter and tantrum all they want, but it won't

01:02:47.900 change the facts here. And the fact is that again, America was founded by Christians of Western European

01:02:55.100 descent. That is the culture that our country is rooted in. That's a fact. If the Chinese or the Arabs 1.00

01:03:05.160 had colonized North America had colonized North America and founded a nation here, it would be a

01:03:08.720 fundamentally different nation. This country, the USA, the country that we live in right now,

01:03:15.900 could not have been formed by any group other than Christians of Western European descent.

01:03:23.560 Now, other groups can form countries. Many groups have formed many countries, obviously,

01:03:28.300 but they could not have formed this country. This country is distinctly Christian and European at its

01:03:35.240 core. That is a fact. And guys like Sam have no response to that fact other than to cry about it.

01:03:42.400 And that's why in response to my posts on this subject, in which I simply asked him to define

01:03:46.940 American identity, Seder posted this inane message on X. He said, quote, I'm impressed how aggressively 0.94

01:03:52.800 these guys from Daily Wire are owning white nationalism and theocracy. So that's about,

01:03:59.480 oh, he called, oh, white nationalism. That's scary. Don't you get it, Sam? We don't care.

01:04:05.120 You can label it all you want. Oh, that's white nationalism. That's theocracy. That's Nazism. 0.78

01:04:10.140 Whatever. It doesn't matter to us. Don't you see that? You can, your labels don't mean anything to us.

01:04:15.840 They mean nothing, not a single thing. See, the emotional blackmail only works if we give a damn

01:04:23.760 what you think of us and we don't at all, not at all. So you're left with the questions still that

01:04:32.220 you can't answer. Once again, he refuses to articulate an actual response. Instead, he resorts

01:04:37.520 to these dumb labels that win debates in his circle, but he's left flailing and flabbergasted when 0.94

01:04:45.580 he finds himself surrounded by people who aren't afraid of the labels. We don't care what you call 0.97

01:04:50.420 us. The word white is not a pejorative to us. So now what, Sam? What do you have to say now?

01:04:57.920 That tactic's off the table. We don't care. What about the issue? You have anything to say about that?

01:05:03.600 And this was a theme of the whole episode of Surrounded, for what it's worth. It happened again

01:05:07.820 and again. In a separate conversation, for instance, Cedar was pressed about the foundations of his morality,

01:05:12.140 morality. And once again, he deflected. Watch. I don't base my understanding of civil society on

01:05:20.080 religion. And so we have a civil society. We have laws that we have decided as a society in a

01:05:26.800 democratic way. And for some people, it's okay for it to be informed by their religion. That's okay.

01:05:32.360 Perfect. So if tomorrow society comes together and we say, hey, trans folks don't deserve rights, 1.00

01:05:36.780 you would be okay with that? No, I would be against it. But I mean, it would be...

01:05:42.880 It would be morally right under your view. Not morally right. No, no, no. I'm not talking

01:05:46.380 about morals here. Okay. So here's where I'm getting to, right? Religious foundations provide

01:05:51.420 an ethical framework for one to live their life off of. I believe you can have an ethical framework

01:05:56.000 without religion. And if we take the leftist view to its logical tail end, to its extreme view,

01:06:00.780 you have low reproductive birth rates. You have a reproductive dead end. So two men together can't 1.00

01:06:06.560 reproduce unless they have to take from a healthy straight couple. Religion provides this foundation 0.91

01:06:11.520 where you do prioritize the nuclear family. So do you have a problem with gay people being married?

01:06:17.680 So all he has is deflection. That's his only available tactic. He's being pressed on the 0.72

01:06:21.260 foundations for his belief system. If it's not religion, then what is it? If it's the will of

01:06:25.720 the people, then how can you object to a popular law that offends trans folks, quote unquote?

01:06:30.820 How can you say that slavery or Jim Crow were ever wrong? They were the will of the people at one point.

01:06:37.560 And then when he realizes he doesn't have any grounds for rational objections, Sam asks the 0.74

01:06:41.800 guy whether he has a problem with gay people. So he resorts again to trying to shame the person 0.83

01:06:46.400 asking the question. He's hoping that you won't notice that his own belief system is completely

01:06:51.860 contingent on these precarious expedient factors. There's no deeper foundation whatsoever.

01:07:00.740 They can't articulate why trans rights are supposedly important any more than they can tell you 0.99

01:07:04.700 what it means to be American. Now, if you really press some leftists on this question of what does

01:07:11.140 it mean to be American, what they will probably respond is that they think that America is an idea.

01:07:18.280 But the problem with that is twofold. First of all, nations are tangible, physical things. They are

01:07:25.160 not abstractions. Ideas don't have laws. They don't have presidents. They don't have passports. Ideas

01:07:30.580 don't have militaries. And secondly, when you ask leftists about this, they won't go into any detail

01:07:36.980 about what this idea actually is. Okay, so they say America is an idea. You say, okay, fine. Again,

01:07:43.640 sake of argument, let's say America is an idea. What is the idea? Can you at least tell me that?

01:07:49.840 They say America is an idea, but they seem to have no idea about what this idea is.

01:07:55.740 And that's because the men who came up with the ideas that lie at the foundation

01:07:59.300 of our government were all Christians. They were Christian ideas. Human rights is a Christian idea.

01:08:09.520 It makes no sense, actually. Human rights make no sense outside of a Christian worldview. No sense at 0.97

01:08:15.640 all. You can't make sense of them. Because human rights, that's why it's endowed by the creator.

01:08:22.080 That is the philosophical framework of human rights. That they are these, it's something that

01:08:29.080 supersedes, that goes beyond, that is rooted in something that transcends governments and people

01:08:36.000 and voting and everything else. They're not just these subjective social constructs. Because if

01:08:44.840 human rights are social constructs, then they don't mean anything. They're not real. And that would

01:08:50.760 mean that if everybody agrees that black people should be enslaved, well, then that's it. That's the end 0.98

01:08:58.440 of the discussion. If you want to appeal beyond that to something outside of the government, something

01:09:04.520 greater, something bigger than the government, well, what is that? So in other words, it turns out that the

01:09:11.280 left also rejects the very ideas that they claim define our country. So America is not defined by

01:09:18.440 ethnicity, not defined by race, not defined by religion, not defined by borders, not defined by law,

01:09:23.360 not defined by culture, not even defined as it turns out by ideas. So I ask again, and Sam, I know you're

01:09:31.980 watching. I'm asking you, what is America? What defines it? What is our identity? If it's not any of

01:09:39.020 those things? Now, I'm not expecting that I'll get an answer because these are the contradictions and

01:09:43.980 inconsistencies that emerge when you spend five minutes talking to any leftist about their beliefs, whether

01:09:47.780 it's a random person off the street or a supposed intellectual like Sam Seder. No matter where you look,

01:09:54.120 the foundations of leftist understanding collapse the moment you apply any scrutiny to them whatsoever.

01:09:58.540 And that is why Sam Seder, who was just humiliated by random people who asked him the most basic questions

01:10:03.700 imaginable, is today canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you

01:10:09.120 tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.

01:10:17.780 Thank you.

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