The Matt Walsh Show - April 07, 2025


Ep. 1570 - Black Teen Raises Thousands In Fundraiser After Killing White Student


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A crowdfunding campaign for the Black teen who stabbed a White kid to death has now raised well over $150,000. People are rallying around him and giving him money because he killed a white kid. What does that tell us about the culture? We ll discuss also more anti-Trump and anti-Elon protests over the weekend.

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00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, a crowdfunding campaign for the black teen who stabbed a white
00:00:03.780 kid to death has now raised well over $150,000. People are rallying around him and giving him
00:00:09.320 money because he killed a white kid. What does that tell us about the culture? We'll discuss
00:00:12.900 also more anti-Trump and anti-Elon protests over the weekend. We'll check out the highlights.
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00:02:09.600 See representative for warranty details. On Friday, we discussed the killing of a white high school
00:02:14.920 junior in Texas named Austin Metcalf. Metcalf was stabbed through the heart by Carmelo Anthony,
00:02:20.660 a black 17-year-old student who attended a different school. According to the arrest warrant,
00:02:24.780 Anthony was in the wrong tent at a track meet for reasons that aren't entirely clear. Metcalf told him
00:02:29.960 to leave. Anthony dared Metcalf to touch him. Metcalf apparently touched Anthony or his backpack,
00:02:35.800 and then Anthony produced a knife from the backpack and killed Metcalf. Afterwards, police say Anthony
00:02:40.880 threw the murder weapon away as he was fleeing, and when police asked Anthony what had happened,
00:02:45.820 he admitted that he stabbed Metcalf, and then asked them if his actions could be considered a form of
00:02:50.720 self-defense. Of course, there hasn't yet been a trial in this case. Carmelo Anthony, like everyone
00:02:56.240 else accused of a crime in this country, enjoys the legal presumption of innocence under our
00:03:00.740 Constitution. At the same time, reasonable people can look at these facts and come to one obvious
00:03:05.360 conclusion, which is this. Unless the police and all the witnesses are engaging in the single most
00:03:10.440 organized conspiracy to frame a criminal defendant that's ever been undertaken in the history of
00:03:14.940 this country for no apparent reason, then there was clearly no justification for Carmelo Anthony
00:03:20.240 to kill Austin Metcalf. There was no reason for him to bring a deadly weapon to a track meet in the
00:03:24.820 first place, much less use that weapon to execute an unarmed teenager and then attempt to hide the
00:03:30.260 evidence. So in other words, any defense of Anthony must rely on something other than the facts.
00:03:35.680 Now, over the past few days, that kind of defense is exactly what has emerged. Despite the overwhelming
00:03:42.480 evidence in this case, tens of thousands of people have now publicly declared that, in essence,
00:03:48.360 Metcalf had it coming. And this sentiment isn't based on forensic evidence or new witness testimony
00:03:53.460 or anything like that. Instead, the defense of Anthony is based on the fact that Anthony is black
00:03:57.900 and Metcalf was white. So in a moment, I'll go through some of these defenses so you can see the exact
00:04:02.840 argument that I'm talking about. And the important thing to keep in mind as I read them is that the
00:04:07.680 identity of the person writing the post doesn't matter. What matters is the massive positive
00:04:12.080 response that these posts have received. Everything I'm going to read has received tens of thousands of
00:04:18.960 positive responses in the forms of replies and likes, along with millions of views. So even if we're
00:04:23.720 talking about professional agitators here, it really doesn't matter. The point is that the agitation
00:04:28.700 is working. A significant number of people are responding positively to it. Here, for example,
00:04:35.140 speaking of agitators, was a post written by the commentator Tariq Nasheed, who describes himself as a
00:04:40.900 foundational black American, whatever the hell that means. He said, quote, a suspected white supremacist
00:04:47.000 named Austin Metcalf, pictured with his twin, allegedly demanded honor student Carmelo Anthony give up his
00:04:52.960 seat like it was the Jim Crow era. Carmelo defended himself from the alleged threat. The Daniel Penny case
00:04:58.540 set this precedent. Nasheed added, quote, if Kyle Rittenhouse was justified in using lethal self-defense
00:05:03.720 and Daniel Penny was justified in using lethal self-defense, then Carmelo Anthony was justified
00:05:08.140 in using self-defense against alleged bullies who instigated an altercation. Correct? Now, collectively,
00:05:14.620 these two posts have received over six million views and tens of thousands of likes. Austin Metcalf,
00:05:19.980 according to the post, was a suspected white supremacist, even though there's been no evidence
00:05:25.800 whatsoever to suggest that that's true. It's just completely invented by this guy.
00:05:31.300 In this instance, as in pretty much every other instance, the words white supremacist are obviously
00:05:35.800 just a synonym for whites. And the people responding to this post understand that Austin Metcalf was not
00:05:41.700 a member of some white nationalist group. They don't care. They simply despise him because he was
00:05:47.100 white, which is all it takes. Then Tariq compares the situation to the Jim Crow era, which is apparently meant
00:05:52.920 to imply that it's impossible for black people to be in the wrong place at any time for any reason.
00:05:58.420 If you're a white person, then evidently you are not allowed to tell a black person that he's not
00:06:01.980 allowed in a particular area, even if he's not actually allowed in that area. That appears to
00:06:06.380 be the logic here. I mean, if you wake up at 2 a.m. and a random black person is inside your home 0.96
00:06:10.600 and you tell him to leave, then you're basically reinventing Jim Crow. The rest of the Sheeds' defense 0.97
00:06:16.440 makes a half-hearted comparison to the Kyle Rittenhouse and Daniel Penny cases, never mind the fact that both
00:06:21.420 Rittenhouse and Penny were repeatedly threatened with lethal force before they responded in kind,
00:06:26.440 which is why juries acquitted both men. Also, never mind the fact that Tariq Nasheed thinks that
00:06:33.140 both Penny and Rittenhouse should be in prison, which means by his own logic, Anthony should be too.
00:06:38.640 But in reality, as those cases demonstrated, lethal force is the appropriate response to somebody
00:06:43.300 pointing a loaded gun in your face or to a violent felon who's terrorizing a subway car as he yells, 0.99
00:06:48.820 I'm going to kill you and I'm prepared to go to jail for life. On the other hand, 1.00
00:06:52.980 lethal force is not the appropriate response to a student touching your backpack during a track meet
00:06:57.700 or telling you you're in the wrong tent. The only person who could possibly be confused about this
00:07:02.400 or pretend to be confused is somebody who is seeking as desperately as he possibly can to justify 0.99
00:07:08.780 the murder of a white minor at the hands of a black killer. That's the only explanation for this 0.99
00:07:12.740 kind of reasoning or lack thereof. We are witnessing the endorsement of racial violence 0.93
00:07:17.940 on a very large scale. To give another example, somebody named Talbert Swan, who calls himself a
00:07:22.920 bishop, posted a similar comparison on social media. Again, it received an overwhelmingly positive
00:07:27.020 response. Quote, y'all said 17-year-old Kyle Rittenhouse was justified in killing two people with
00:07:31.900 an AR-15 because he felt threatened. 17-year-old Camarlo Anthony was defending himself when he killed
00:07:37.120 Austin Metcalf with a knife and y'all think he deserves to go to prison. I wonder white. W-H-I-T-E, 1.00
00:07:45.980 white. Okay, very clever. Now, so what's being conflated here again is that Kyle Rittenhouse
00:07:54.500 did not merely feel threatened. Okay, actually just saying that you feel threatened is not enough
00:08:01.580 under the law as justification for killing someone or as self-defense. The jury determined correctly
00:08:10.560 that Rittenhouse's fear was objectively reasonable. It wasn't just that he felt that way. It was that
00:08:16.200 he had a very clear reason to feel that way. And the reason is that he was being chased by people
00:08:22.260 with guns. Okay, so pretty clear, like pretty obvious reason why you should feel threatened.
00:08:27.320 It was not a pretext. Rittenhouse didn't invent his fear in order to kill anyone, nor did he kill
00:08:33.380 anyone because he has very little impulse control or because he grew up in a culture that glorifies
00:08:37.100 violence. He killed people because they attempted to kill him first, and any reasonable person can
00:08:43.080 see that. It's on video. There's no denying it. They're on video trying to kill him. Now, the reason
00:08:50.480 these people are making the Rittenhouse comparisons is that they're projecting. They want to glorify racial
00:08:55.400 violence, but they don't want to make it explicit, at least not yet. So instead, they're pretending
00:08:59.760 that white people are already glorifying racial violence, and then they're framing black-on-white 0.54
00:09:04.440 violence as a proportionate response. Now, here's another post from somebody calling himself 0.66
00:09:10.040 Mike Baggs. It racked up something like 7 million views and 30,000 positive responses. Quote,
00:09:15.840 whenever white supremacists immediately flood our mentions before the full story's even out,
00:09:20.200 you know something's up. It turns out Austin Metcalf was the aggressor,
00:09:22.860 and the black kid Carmelo Anthony was defending himself. Close quote. Now, according to this
00:09:27.460 analysis, the person who goes into the wrong tent while armed with a deadly weapon and then dares
00:09:33.940 someone to touch him is not, in the final analysis, the aggressor. What's missing in this analysis is
00:09:39.920 that Metcalf never put Anthony in any fear of his life, reasonable or otherwise. Touching somebody's
00:09:44.860 backpack at a track meet when they're in the wrong tent is not a threat of lethal force, especially
00:09:49.620 in this context. Therefore, Anthony was not justified in using lethal force as a response.
00:09:55.220 And Anthony probably knew that, which is why he got rid of the murder weapon and why he asked the
00:09:59.920 police officers if he could possibly have a viable self-defense claim, which is not something you do
00:10:05.080 if you have a viable self-defense claim. But a lot of people seem intent on ignoring these facts.
00:10:10.380 Here's another post with 10 million views and around 80,000 likes. Quote,
00:10:13.120 The twins didn't just ask him to leave. They tried to jump him before attacking him. They tried to
00:10:17.480 take his belongings. They broke his phone and they stomped on it. Ask yourself, if two 200 plus pound
00:10:23.640 attackers came at your child, what would you expect them to do? Carmelo defended himself against violent
00:10:28.700 aggressors. That is not a crime. Close quote. Now, none of that is true. It's just totally fabricated.
00:10:36.660 Austin Metcalf did not jump anyone. He didn't attempt to steal any belongings, nor did he break anybody's
00:10:41.780 phone. All that information was contained in a fake Facebook post from somebody pretending to be
00:10:47.400 the local chief of police. Anybody with access to Google or who's equipped with basic common sense
00:10:53.180 could have figured that out immediately. But millions of people wanted to believe this post
00:10:57.960 was true, even though it was obviously fake. And the reason these people wanted to believe this fake
00:11:02.540 information is that when you get down to it, they would support a black person, any black person who 0.98
00:11:07.800 kills a white person for any reason. This is the O.J. Simpson effect, except Carmelo Anthony isn't 0.96
00:11:12.680 famous. He has no pre-existing fan base. This is the purest form of racial resentment, and now it's on
00:11:18.120 full display. We're not dealing with an honest disagreement about the facts here. We're dealing
00:11:24.940 with people who believe that violence against white people is justified solely on the basis of their skin 0.67
00:11:29.680 color. And that is why, as of right now, a Give, Send, Go fundraiser for Carmelo Anthony, the man who
00:11:36.160 just stabbed a teenager in the heart and killed him, has raised more than $135,000. Yes, the killer's
00:11:44.180 family, with his official Give, Send, Go, has raised $135,000. Those are people, actual people, not bots or
00:11:53.000 trolls, giving someone money as a reward for killing a white kid. The fundraising page complains 0.99
00:12:01.180 that it's been a challenging and difficult time for Carmelo Anthony's family. It claims that, quote,
00:12:06.100 the narrative being spread is false, unjust, and harmful. And there was a similar fundraiser that was
00:12:10.960 taken down by GoFundMe because raising money for murder suspects isn't acceptable under their terms of
00:12:16.100 service. But it's apparently just fine for Give, Send, Go, the supposedly Christian alternative. 0.98
00:12:20.360 Now, the reason that this is happening, the reason a killer is being celebrated and even funded by a
00:12:27.480 significant number of Americans, is that everything I said on Friday is true. The culture among young
00:12:32.880 black males in this country glorifies violence. And in particular, it glorifies violence against white 1.00
00:12:37.880 people. That's why young black males are disproportionately violent to a degree that's almost impossible to 1.00
00:12:42.820 believe, even though it's true. Black people are roughly 12 times more likely to kill a white person, 28 times 1.00
00:12:48.900 more likely to violently assault a white person than the other way around. And this is what happens 0.99
00:12:53.480 when the vast majority of black children are born without present fathers in the home. 0.99
00:12:57.860 It's what happens when black culture is dominated by degeneracy. And it's what happens when the worst 1.00
00:13:03.320 kinds of people are hailed as heroes of the black community. Now it's a kid who stabbed another kid in 0.98
00:13:09.640 the heart. In the past, it's been George Floyd or Michael Brown or any of the other BLM martyrs we might name. 0.59
00:13:13.980 If not them, it's rappers and athletes who would be the least objectionable of the bunch,
00:13:18.660 at least in most cases. But ask yourself, when was the last time that a great black man of high 0.96
00:13:27.760 moral character, somebody who achieved something meaningful, was given the George Floyd or Carmelo
00:13:34.840 Anthony hagiography treatment? You become what you admire. This is true of people and cultures.
00:13:41.820 When you elevate people like Carmelo Anthony and George Floyd, you become like them.
00:13:48.360 Now, obviously, there are great black men and women in the world and throughout history.
00:13:54.460 Just as one example in the current day, one example that springs immediately to mind for me
00:14:00.280 is Ben Carson. He's one of the world's greatest surgeons. His personal story is harrowing and
00:14:06.160 inspiring, truly awe-inspiring. But he's been cast out of black culture. Mainstream black culture 1.00
00:14:13.500 celebrates George Floyd or Kendrick Lamar or whoever, far more than would ever celebrate a man like Carson.
00:14:19.700 Not only are the good, decent, productive black men and women not celebrated, they are in fact
00:14:24.600 condemned by the very culture that should be celebrating them. And this is what happens
00:14:30.080 with all of the left's victim groups. You know, when you're a victim group, this is what happens.
00:14:38.640 Because your heroes must then be victims. The qualification to become a hero is not that
00:14:45.160 you achieve something, but that something bad happened to you. Even if in reality, you did the
00:14:50.920 bad thing to yourself, as was the case with George Floyd, Carmelo Anthony, Michael Brown, and so on.
00:14:54.780 We see a version of this problem in American culture at large. You know, we tore down the
00:14:58.920 statues of our true historical heroes. Now they're being replaced by pop stars and celebrities and
00:15:03.760 other assorted degenerates. The end result of this trend, which is continuing even though so many
00:15:09.040 Americans reject it, will be that many more people will die. Any country that tolerates racial violence 0.91
00:15:15.440 will inevitably descend further and further towards dysfunction and open race warfare. If BLM types can 1.00
00:15:22.000 justify the killing of Austin Metcalfe, they can justify the murder of any white man, woman, or child.
00:15:26.300 And that's their goal. That's why they're sending money to the family of Carmelo Anthony and comparing
00:15:30.260 him to Kyle Rittenhouse. And it's why everyone, whether they're white or black, needs to pay very 0.95
00:15:34.400 close attention to where they're living and what schools they're sending their children to.
00:15:38.380 Until this culture changes, and right now there are no signs that it will,
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00:17:14.800 and President Donald Trump's second term took shape Saturday at more than 1,200 events organized
00:17:19.720 by Democratic activists. Protesters across the United States took to the streets in a series of
00:17:24.560 hands-off demonstrations decrying Trump's border enforcement and deportation policies,
00:17:28.920 as well as mass firings on the Department of Government Efficiency. In a statement released
00:17:32.800 before the event, organizers said Trump and his billionaire advisor at Doge, Elon Musk,
00:17:36.900 have created an unnecessary crisis under the belief that this country belongs to them.
00:17:40.200 Um, among those who gathered at the National Monument on Saturday was Trump voter Ramesh
00:17:45.720 Boudram of, uh, New York, who, uh, is having some regrets as he contemplates possible disruptions to
00:17:51.720 Social Security. Boudram said, I'm a senior citizen. He wants to step into our Social Security
00:17:57.400 checks. It's not nice. Boudram has been keeping score during Trump's first 75 days and suggested
00:18:02.460 some promises haven't been kept. I thought it'd be a little better, Boudram said. He's saying he's
00:18:08.100 going to drop the gas prices, the supermarket, the food stuff, but it didn't happen. Yeah,
00:18:12.840 I don't buy these former Trump voters that, you know, they keep digging up to say they no longer
00:18:16.940 support Trump. This Ramesh Boudram guy is another one, uh, totally fake. I don't buy it. He says that
00:18:23.920 Trump wants to mess with his Social Security check. Trump, that's not true. Trump has not touched
00:18:27.720 Social Security, has said a million times that he never will. And I say that as someone who thinks
00:18:33.100 that we do need to phase out Social Security, I, to me, it's a scam. I personally don't want
00:18:39.100 the government handling my retirement savings. The idea that I, that I'm forced into this government
00:18:43.340 retirement program is crazy to me and I have no interest in it. I don't want it. Let me keep my
00:18:48.780 own money. I'll take care of it. Thank you. Um, that's my view, but it's not Trump's. Trump has
00:18:53.680 never said anything like that. So all of that is fake. And then he says he's disillusioned because the
00:18:58.300 price of gas and food hasn't gone down, uh, enough. And, you know, Trump has been in office for like
00:19:03.840 10 weeks. How quickly did you think all that stuff was going to happen? Did you expect that he would
00:19:09.500 take office and it'd be fixed the next day? I mean, it's nonsense. So I don't really buy it.
00:19:14.420 Um, but let's check in on these protests. Let's, let's, uh, listen to some of the sounds and, uh,
00:19:20.780 see some of the sites. The reporter, Ted Goodman was on the scene in DC interviewing
00:19:26.040 some of the protesters, uh, just to see what they think. And it turns out that they don't,
00:19:32.460 they don't think very much. They don't, they don't have very many thoughts in their heads.
00:19:35.620 Uh, here's, let's watch. So what, what makes Trump a fascist?
00:19:44.580 Uh, what makes Trump a fascist?
00:19:48.440 He just, just thinks without, um, yeah, talk loud. I don't have my mic on.
00:19:53.380 No, I, I, I'm not really good into interviews.
00:19:57.860 Sorry?
00:19:58.620 He just doesn't, he just does everything he wants and, you know, not following laws or,
00:20:05.880 you know, he was a, he's a convicted felon, you know, that's all I know.
00:20:10.860 But, but your, your sign says he's a fascist and I'm just curious what makes him a fascist?
00:20:16.160 Well, one of the things is that he's trying to control the media, right?
00:20:19.480 Say that again?
00:20:20.040 He's trying to control the narrative, like, uh.
00:20:22.740 How is he trying to control the media? Doesn't every president try to control the narrative?
00:20:26.820 Uh, they try to control their own narrative, but one of the things that Trump's has done,
00:20:30.140 for example, is the renaming the, you know, the Gulf of Mexico, uh, and then not allowing
00:20:35.020 the Associated Press to, uh, come into the White House. Basically, you know, trying to get.
00:20:40.720 So, uh, well, first of all, I'm not trying to be rude, but that guy, the Asian guy,
00:20:44.740 looks like he got, you know, he, he gave himself a haircut with like a weed whacker or something.
00:20:51.060 The bangs are very erratic. Uh, more to the point, they of course have no idea why they are there, 0.67
00:20:58.100 why they hate Trump, why Trump is a fascist. They have no clue. 0.99
00:21:01.160 They give one specific example of Trump's fascist policy, which was to rename the Gulf of Mexico.
00:21:06.000 Uh, renaming a body of water is the extent of Trump's fascist rule, it turns out.
00:21:12.340 And, um, then there's this guy interviewed by Caitlin Bennett, uh, who also has no idea
00:21:20.000 why he's there. Although he's much more passionate. I mean, these, these two guys, uh, clearly were
00:21:25.000 just handed signs. I don't know if they're paid protesters or not, but they were just handed
00:21:30.100 signs. They have no idea why they're even there. Uh, here's a guy who's much more passionate,
00:21:33.940 but is still very confused. Watch. He is a, he is credibly alleged of having a 14 year old girl.
00:21:43.020 Is that what you want for your president? Absolutely not. Right. Which one are you guys
00:21:47.740 talking about? I'm sorry. I interrupted you. I was talking about, uh, our alleged president,
00:21:54.340 our fascist, Nazi-fied, idiot, moronic. The mango menace? Break our NATO alliance. 1.00
00:22:01.160 Turn our allies against us. Steal our money. Throw 71 people, 71 million people off Medicaid
00:22:09.120 that people depend on. 71 million people. Is this what you want? Do you want money taken from your
00:22:14.760 grandma? Do you want to not support battered women and, and abuse children? Is that, is that what you 0.83
00:22:20.760 believe? Stand up and say it, fascists. Stand up and say it. I'm standing up and saying what I believe.
00:22:25.400 You stand up and say what you believe and not platitudes and not idolatry. Let's hear ideas.
00:22:30.840 You have no ideas. All you have is hate, racism, stupidity, and greed. 1.00
00:22:37.120 A round of applause for that right there. He has been waiting a while for that. Yeah, that was, 1.00
00:22:42.020 that was great. What do you think about the, uh, the vandalism that's going on at Tesla dealerships
00:22:45.940 around the country? And we're not the TV, so you can say whatever you want.
00:22:49.720 You know, uh, I still, for no violence unless we're pushed. I mean, they want us to do violence
00:22:55.340 so they can declare martial law. So that's why I'm against the violence. They are police officers.
00:22:59.460 Okay. Do you want my name? What are you guys out here protesting today? What's the number one
00:23:04.040 thing to be anti-elon for? Stop the oligarchy. We want Americans. He's not elected and he has no
00:23:10.120 business doing what he's doing. We don't want, we don't want the billionaires taking over our country.
00:23:13.600 Uh, okay. So that guy, the, the more just invented, we, we, we talked in the opening monologue about
00:23:22.980 these invented claims, people walking around completely confused. They have no idea what's
00:23:29.520 going on. These, uh, these ideas in their head that they've, that they, you know, they, they see
00:23:34.440 something online, they believe it right away. Uh, so, and from, and, you know, from, from this guy,
00:23:40.920 we, we heard before always Trump's going to cut into social security. Not true. Kicking 71 million
00:23:48.020 people off of Medicaid. Not true. Trump was accused of, he claims sexually abusing a 14 year old.
00:23:54.840 Not true. Um, and then we hear about oligarchy and I like how these people have just basically,
00:24:02.260 it seems just learned the word oligarchy over the past few weeks. I've heard the word oligarchy more
00:24:07.680 since this past January than I heard it over the past 20 years before that.
00:24:12.660 And of course the truth is that Trump is the least oligarchic president we've had in generations. I
00:24:19.580 mean, maybe ever he is much less a member of the oligarchy than Biden was or Obama was or Bush was
00:24:26.400 for that matter. Um, oligarchy means it literally means rule by a few, but it really means rule by the
00:24:34.920 rich rule by a collection of rich people. And now you could argue that by that definition,
00:24:43.280 every country everywhere in history for all time has been ruled by the oligarchy in a literal sense.
00:24:49.040 But as for the rich, Trump is despised by most of corporate, corporate America, most of the rich
00:24:54.800 and powerful people, the people who are funding these protests, for example, uh, Elon Musk is like the
00:25:01.660 one exception, but you never hear these complaints about oligarchy when Democrat presidents are in
00:25:07.480 the pocket of George Soros. You never hear it when big corporations help push the left-wing agenda.
00:25:13.840 Um, you never hear about the oligarchy in that case. And it's funny too, because right now
00:25:18.180 you've got people who supposedly hate the oligarchy and supposedly hate rich people and supposedly hate
00:25:25.840 corporate America. They were just cheering when a CEO was murdered in the street. And those same
00:25:32.400 people are right now today, freaking out because the stock market is taking a hit. So the chance seems
00:25:39.140 to be, you know, down with rich people, down with the oligarchy, down with CEOs also protect the stock
00:25:44.660 market. Uh, it just, it seems a bit incoherent is what I'm saying. All right, let's check in on,
00:25:51.640 uh, one, uh, one other hands-off protester. Uh, here we go. Hey friends. Uh, I just passed the,
00:25:59.900 uh, Dunkin' Donuts, which is the most vague possible location I could possibly give you in
00:26:06.080 Massachusetts. Um, but, uh, besides being near a Dunkin' Donuts, which places me somewhere in
00:26:12.800 Massachusetts, I'm, uh, I mentioned, uh, I'm at the hands-off Boston March and it is the slowest
00:26:20.960 March I have ever been in. And I could not be more happy about that because that means it doesn't
00:26:25.900 really matter what this guy is saying. If you're listening to the audio podcast, that guy is, uh,
00:26:30.280 wearing women's clothes. That's a trans guy. You probably could have guessed that. So these are
00:26:36.020 the sorts of people who are rallying. A lot of people who are paid to be there. A lot of people
00:26:39.280 who don't know why they're there. And a lot of people who don't even know who they themselves are
00:26:45.460 or how human biology works. So these, this is the, um, ragtag group that has come together here.
00:26:52.780 Okay. We mentioned last week that a group of women in Congress, both Democrats and Republicans 0.99
00:26:58.100 had come together to demand that mothers of young children be given the right to vote from home.
00:27:03.900 That is mothers in Congress should be given the right to vote on legislation from home without 1.00
00:27:09.480 showing up to the Capitol in person. And these women, Republican representative Anna Polina Luna is
00:27:14.240 among them, shut down business in Congress for days for the sake of this fight. Now we have an
00:27:22.560 update on this, but, but first I want to play this here. We have the female Avengers, the feminist 1.00
00:27:27.660 justice league gathered together for a joint interview with CBS news where they talk about, uh, why they,
00:27:34.720 they think they should be given these accommodations. Listen, historically, it's been much more, uh,
00:27:41.300 wealthy, you know, older men who serve in Congress. This isn't designed for young families and for
00:27:47.140 young women, especially Congress was designed and built for old white men to represent themselves. 0.75
00:27:53.460 And you know, it's, we've made a lot of progress since then we get into it because we're public
00:27:58.580 servants and we care about representing our community, but there should be some accommodations
00:28:03.540 for family things that come up like the birth of a child. It's not like I'm faking, you know,
00:28:08.820 to go party in Cabo, right? Like I'm actually trying to a recover, but then be also care for a newborn.
00:28:14.580 Our job is to represent people. And I'm a 35 year old woman. All of my friends are going through this
00:28:20.740 problem right now that is representing people. American people are not just single, you know, older men
00:28:28.660 with or without children. I want to be able to represent my community and I want to be able to
00:28:33.940 have a family and it shouldn't be so hard to figure out how to do both. Okay. Let me clarify a few things.
00:28:40.740 First of all, and I say this because I honestly believe these ladies may not understand this point.
00:28:46.740 You are being paid by the taxpayers to represent your constituents in your district,
00:28:52.020 not your friends. So she says that she's paid to represent people and that she's representing them
00:28:59.540 by having this fight because all of her friends are in the same boat. But that's not why you're up
00:29:05.140 there. Okay. You are not there to represent your girlfriends. You aren't there to express the concerns
00:29:09.780 that you hear from your friends when you go for a girls night at the karaoke bar or whatever. Okay.
00:29:14.980 You're not there to represent your brunch and mimosas constituency. You're there to represent
00:29:23.220 the constituents in your district. And let me ask you this, ladies, did any of your constituents,
00:29:32.500 I mean, a single one, did a single one of your constituents in any of your districts ever tell you
00:29:40.020 that they care about making sure members of Congress have more maternity leave?
00:29:46.340 Did a single one of your constituents tell you that?
00:29:51.300 Okay. Anna, you're supposed to be the Republican conservative here.
00:29:55.460 Which of your constituents said that they care deeply about making sure that you can vote from home?
00:30:03.940 Can you show me that? Where are all these letters of support? Where did you hear this?
00:30:09.060 All of these, where's this overwhelming voice from your constituents who are saying,
00:30:13.940 you know, the most important thing to me right now in America is making sure that you people in
00:30:18.180 Congress don't have to go to work physically. 0.99
00:30:23.780 If the answer is none of them have ever said that,
00:30:28.420 okay, then you need to go do your job. This is not your job. I don't give a damn
00:30:33.220 what makes you comfortable. That's not why you are there. All we're hearing from these women is me, 1.00
00:30:39.700 I, this is what I want. This would make me, we don't give a damn what makes you comfortable.
00:30:45.940 That's not why you are there. We didn't pay you for that. You're not getting paid for that.
00:30:52.580 Okay. You are there to do the work for your constituents. If you don't want to do that job,
00:30:59.300 you can quit. Okay. No one is forcing you to do this. No one put a gun to your head and told you
00:31:08.500 you had to run for Congress. You chose to do that. Um, and, uh, this has been the rule
00:31:19.300 for Congress for well over two centuries. Okay. This, this, this is the rule that every member
00:31:26.500 of Congress has been expected to follow. And then you come along and you say, yeah, you know what,
00:31:32.180 the way this was done for 200 years doesn't really work for me. No, I need the rules to change for me
00:31:37.220 so that I'm more comfortable. And yes, those were old white men who came, uh, who formed Congress
00:31:44.020 and formed this country and came up with the rules. They were pretty smart. I think, uh, I think they
00:31:50.360 were smarter than all three of you ladies. I mean, which one of you want, which one of you want to 1.00
00:31:54.260 step up to the plate and say that you know more than the old white men who set up these rules? 0.88
00:31:58.880 Which one of you representative Luna, are you the one you want to tell us that you, so, so yeah,
00:32:04.820 all the old white guys, they made the rules, but you know, better, you know, better than they do. 0.86
00:32:10.620 Really? Uh, you wouldn't have this job. Congress would not exist. The United States would not exist.
00:32:17.800 Your life probably would not exist if not for those old white men and anyone who uses the term 0.97
00:32:23.900 old white men in a derogatory way immediately loses all credibility. Okay. Your argument is mute, 0.92
00:32:29.320 moot, uh, moot rather. And my argument is mute now because I just said mute instead of moot. Um,
00:32:35.160 but, but it truly is the moment that you pull out the old white men trope, especially in this context,
00:32:44.020 uh, it, it's like, I don't even care what you have to say anymore. So,
00:32:49.960 you know, I don't know how else to explain this other than because, you know, the, the argument
00:33:02.780 from the other side is, well, if you're pro family and you think that women should have children and
00:33:10.500 they should raise their children and be there for their, for their babies, then you should be in favor
00:33:14.320 of this. I am pro family. I'm very pro family. And I think it's a wonderful thing. If any of you
00:33:21.400 ladies or any other woman in Congress wants to have a baby, I think that's fantastic. And I think 0.99
00:33:27.340 your desire to be home with your children is great. I think it's very natural. I think it's right.
00:33:35.600 Okay. But, but that means that if you want to prioritize that, that you can't be in Congress.
00:33:41.360 Okay. Congress is not a job made for everybody and anybody. It's made for very particular sorts of
00:33:49.400 people who are able to do certain things such as show up in person to the Capitol to vote, uh,
00:33:59.940 basically a few, a few days a month. So this whole thing is, uh, is just to me, outrageous and highly
00:34:10.120 annoying, but of course it looks like these women are going to get what they want. Here's ABC news 1.00
00:34:15.900 with the update. Speaker Mike Johnson of Florida GOP representative Anna Polina Luna say that they
00:34:21.560 have cut a deal to end the fight over proxy voting for new parents, which will reopen the house floor
00:34:26.420 after nearly a week of legislative paralysis. House Republican leaders will formalize vote pairing,
00:34:31.620 a procedure that allows a member who is absent during a vote to coordinate with a present member on
00:34:36.520 the other side of the matter to offset the absence. So for example, the procedure in this case would
00:34:42.760 allow a new mother who was absent for a house vote to team up with a present lawmaker, uh, voting 1.00
00:34:47.840 opposite from their stance to form a pair. Okay, great. So the obnoxious whiny women will get their 1.00
00:34:54.260 way. Tale as old as time. And we're going to, we're going to allow this good thing that there's 0.97
00:35:01.420 no, there's no conceivable way that this could be abused, right? You know, enabling, uh, members of
00:35:08.820 Congress to not show up in person. No way that that's going to be abused. No, no, no, no. This is
00:35:13.700 only going to be for parents in the first, whatever, 12 weeks of the baby's life. It's not going to extend
00:35:20.040 beyond that. It's not going to be abused. It's not going to be taken advantage of, you know, no, no,
00:35:24.700 because politicians would never do that. No, we can trust them. We can trust them to use this new
00:35:31.580 found freedom and luxury and, uh, and, uh, accommodation that they've been given. We can
00:35:36.720 trust them to use it responsibly and to never abuse it. That's what we're being told anyway.
00:35:44.520 All right. Here's one for the no good deed goes unpunished file. Uh, I want you to look what
00:35:53.080 happened to a door dasher in Texas who tried to help someone. Listen, he was just trying to get
00:36:00.600 some food. Altman's decided to order the man food. I opened my car. I was going to go get him some
00:36:06.440 food. And literally the second I opened my door to step out, he just like starts stabbing me.
00:36:11.220 Fort Worth Police Department says Quinn Darius Cartwright is the man who cut Altman's in the
00:36:16.300 face and chest. Photos of the bloody gash are too graphic to broadcast. Genuinely thought I was
00:36:22.400 going to die. It was so much blood and walked in Waffle House. They were freaking out. I mean,
00:36:27.040 I'm sure it's probably a traumatic thing for anyone to watch. Video of Altman's recovery shows his
00:36:32.200 swollen face and stitches. Most of the stab wounds like to the body weren't really too bad. It was just
00:36:37.180 when he stabbed me in the face. It was like, it was really bad. On top of injuries, Cartwright
00:36:42.140 reportedly stole Altman's car and joy wrote it to a strip club in North Fort Worth.
00:36:50.000 Uh, okay. So this guy, Jackson Altman's tries to help the homeless guy, give him food.
00:36:58.400 The homeless guy's name is Quinn Darius, by the way, which is funny. Let's be honest. Um,
00:37:06.400 like if you, if you said the name Quinn Darius to me without context, I would assume you were either
00:37:11.540 talking about a Roman emperor or a homeless guy outside of a Waffle House. Those are the,
00:37:18.340 those are the two options for a name like Quinn Darius. And, um, in this case, it was a homeless guy
00:37:24.100 outside of a Waffle House. The door dasher would have been much better off if it was a Roman emperor 0.99
00:37:27.320 outside of the, uh, even one of the evil ones, it would have been better. But instead he gets the
00:37:32.160 homeless guy, tries to give the guy food, ends up getting stabbed. And this is why, you know,
00:37:36.980 people think I'm mean for the way that I talk about the homeless, but, uh, this is why. And,
00:37:42.020 and, um, and I've said before that I'll give money to the homeless. I'll give them food. Sometimes
00:37:46.460 I try to help, but I'm at the point now where I'm, I'm done with all of that. Um, I, I don't give
00:37:54.280 them money anymore. I don't give them food because these are very often dangerous people,
00:37:59.060 drug addicts, criminals, con artists, liars. Um, I'll tell you the last time I, I gave a homeless 0.91
00:38:06.840 guy some money. This is, this was actually was recently. This is kind of like the, the,
00:38:11.400 the final straw moment for me. And cause I'm, I'm at the, I'm at a gas station. I'm standing at the
00:38:16.400 pump and this guy comes up. He's got this whole sob story about how he like lost his job in his
00:38:22.900 apartment and he's on the street now and he needs some money for food and to get a bus ticket to go
00:38:27.680 down to his sister or whatever. I forget the whole story that he, that he told me, but, uh, that was
00:38:33.620 the story. Now I'm not an idiot. Yeah. I knew he was lying. Okay. I knew he's not buying any damn bus 0.67
00:38:39.240 ticket. Um, so I knew it was made up, but I gave him a few bucks anyway, trying to be nice, trying to 0.96
00:38:44.440 be generous. A week later, same gas station, same guy comes up to me with the exact same story. And,
00:38:52.020 uh, he was supposed to be getting on a bus like last week to go down to his sisters or whatever,
00:38:57.340 to start his, to start fresh, start a new life, you know? Um, but there he was still fundraising,
00:39:03.820 fundraising for that bus ticket a week later. Obviously he didn't remember telling me that,
00:39:08.040 you know, this same lie a week earlier, most likely cause he's on drugs the whole time.
00:39:13.200 So I just told him, yeah, you know, I already gave you money and he just walked away.
00:39:16.780 Now, again, I knew he was lying. I knew it was a scam, but still to be lied to by the same guy
00:39:21.700 with the same lie that was just irritating. And that was, you know, that was, that was probably
00:39:26.640 my, it was probably at that point where I, where I said like, why do I ever, why am I doing this?
00:39:32.060 Why would I ever, I, I, I would be better off just taking the five bucks and burning it. I mean,
00:39:37.580 it would be a better use of the money probably, uh, rather than giving someone money who's lying to
00:39:44.840 me so they can go buy drugs with it. It's like, why would I, why did I ever do that? Why did I,
00:39:49.160 why, why do any of us ever do it? Um, the only solution to the homeless problem,
00:39:55.560 the only solution to our cities being overwhelmed by vagrants and drug addicts and mentally ill 0.99
00:40:00.000 lunatics who treat the sidewalk like a campground. The only solution is not charity. We've tried 0.91
00:40:06.620 charity. Every city in the country has homeless shelters and soup kitchens and everything else.
00:40:12.540 There's no reason why any homeless person should ever actually go hungry. There's no reason why they
00:40:16.920 should be begging for money or food. They can get food. And if they're physically capable and they
00:40:22.060 actually have any interest in getting a job and becoming functioning members of society,
00:40:26.180 they can also get jobs, but they're on the street because they have no interest in not being on the
00:40:31.540 street. So the only solution, and this is why I always say it, the only solution is to ban it.
00:40:37.100 Okay. You have to ban vagrancy, clear out the camps, clear off the sidewalks by force. 0.99
00:40:44.220 That's the only solution. You have to say, you're not allowed, you are not, you're not allowed to
00:40:48.880 sleep on the sidewalk because we live in a civilized society and you can't do that. This is, this is a
00:40:54.020 sidewalk. It's not a place. You cannot set up a campground here. This is not allowed. You cannot do it.
00:40:58.260 And, uh, and you'll notice that, you know, any city or anywhere you go in the world where they
00:41:05.920 don't have this problem, it's, it's because this is what they did. It's, it's not because they had
00:41:10.920 some great charitable regime. It's not because they, uh, you know, they, they finally reached a
00:41:16.420 point where the homeless people were given enough money and enough charity that there's no more
00:41:20.040 homelessness. It's not that it's because you're not allowed to, uh, that's the only way to clear this
00:41:26.820 stuff out. And if we don't have the stomach for that, then our cities will just forever be
00:41:35.340 overwhelmed, uh, by dangerous, violent vagrants. You know, those are the options.
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00:42:14.160 Over the past few weeks, we've spent a considerable amount of time talking about marriage from the
00:42:18.920 perspective of a man. This is a perspective that isn't discussed often enough and is even less
00:42:23.600 understood. A couple of weeks ago, we talked about the concept of emotional labor, which is a term used
00:42:28.620 almost exclusively by women about themselves. The claim, which you'll find in a million articles or
00:42:33.540 here in a million TikTok videos, is that women carry a disproportionate amount of the emotional and 0.76
00:42:37.800 mental burdens of marriage and family life. And I explained why that is a rather severe misconception.
00:42:43.740 This past Friday, we talked about the wildly viral video of a feminist social media influencer
00:42:48.820 who announced to the world that she almost divorced her husband for failing to do household chores when 1.00
00:42:54.060 and how she wanted. And I, again, explained in detail why that woman has an attitude that will kill her 1.00
00:42:59.520 marriage, just like it's killed so many thousands of marriages before hers. Now we're not going to 0.81
00:43:04.200 rehash either of those conversations, but we are going to spend some more time in this general vicinity.
00:43:10.000 A couple of days ago, Megyn Kelly jumped into the fray. She shared her own reaction to that viral video
00:43:16.820 I just mentioned. She seemed to generally disapprove of the woman castigating her husband publicly, 0.98
00:43:22.320 but she also disapproves of the way that many men on the right approach and talk about marriage.
00:43:28.800 And I'm going to play those comments from Megyn and offer a response. But before I do that,
00:43:33.320 I need to rewind the clock by about a year to set the stage. And before I do that,
00:43:40.700 I need to preface everything I'm saying by saying that I personally like Megyn. I've been on her show
00:43:45.640 a number of times. I've had nothing but pleasant interactions with her. I met her in person for the
00:43:50.440 first time at one of the inaugural balls in January. I found her to be very kind in person. So I have no
00:43:55.920 personal problem with her at all. But she does have a bit of a problem with me, it would seem.
00:44:01.980 So before we get to Megyn's comments this week, I'm going to play something that she said about me
00:44:06.640 last year. And I heard this clip at the time, but I decided not to say anything about it or to respond
00:44:13.080 to it. I try not to get into public spats with people on our own side, which is why I quite
00:44:17.940 frequently let it slide when people on our side who I thought were friends or at least friendly
00:44:22.900 take shots at me, which happens all the time. But I feel it necessary to bring this up now because
00:44:29.600 it will provide some important context to Megyn's remarks last week. And also, I think the conflict
00:44:35.220 between feminism and what we now call the traditional view of marriage and gender roles 0.96
00:44:39.340 is coming to a head. It's coming to a head on the right. And now is the time to get it all out in
00:44:44.620 the open. As conservatives, we have to decide if we want to conserve the view of the sexes that was 0.84
00:44:49.500 held by basically everyone in the world for all of human history until the middle of the 20th
00:44:53.260 century, or if we want to conserve feminism. We cannot conserve both. And I know which I prefer. 0.80
00:45:01.300 So with that said, let's go back to February 3rd, 2024, when Megyn Kelly appeared on a podcast 0.99
00:45:06.040 called Chicks on the Right. At the time that this podcast was recorded, Megyn was pretty angry at me 1.00
00:45:10.240 for making some derogatory comments about feminism, as I tend to do. And here is the setup from the
00:45:18.080 host. Listen.
00:45:18.620 I think it was right after you'd written a book. And so we had you on to talk about your book.
00:45:23.060 And there was some controversy happening at the time with Matt Walsh. And I know you had a beef
00:45:28.620 with him recently on Twitter.
00:45:30.380 Back then there was a controversy?
00:45:32.460 Yes. There was controversy because he's always been the same guy when it comes to women have their
00:45:40.180 place and that needs to be at home and they shouldn't have careers and all that stuff. So and
00:45:44.240 it was about that. And we talked to you about that. And you said something that has never
00:45:48.480 left my brain. And I loved how you said it. And I refer back to it all the time because
00:45:53.200 I struggled with his arguments. He's very persuasive. He's an excellent writer, as I'm sure
00:45:58.500 you know. And his criticisms were like getting to me. And I remember that I asked you about
00:46:03.280 it in that show. And you said, I just know that having a career and family, having that career
00:46:10.460 makes me the best version of myself for my family. And I was like, that is the perfect
00:46:17.240 way to describe how we think, I think how we feel about our own careers. It just really
00:46:23.600 resonated with me. And so when I saw you guys kind of beefing about a month ago or three
00:46:27.720 weeks ago or whatever about the similar issue.
00:46:30.280 Okay, so we'll get to Megan's what she says in a second. Well, I will say guilty as charged. 0.98
00:46:37.380 I have always been the same guy. For the most part, I'm saying the same things now that I
00:46:41.180 said 13 years ago when I was a mostly unknown blogger with like 5,000 Twitter followers. 0.99
00:46:46.200 I might be a jerk, but at least I've always been the same kind of jerk. You have to give 0.98
00:46:50.200 me that. But Megan Kelly has had enough of it. She's had enough of my crap and she wants 1.00
00:46:55.680 me to shut up. And I'm not exaggerating. That's what she said verbatim. Listen. 0.99
00:47:02.180 And again, having said that I like the guy, I'm getting a little tired of his nonstop judgment of
00:47:08.440 women who make different choices than the ones he wants us to make. Sorry, Matt, you're not our 0.95
00:47:13.340 Jesus. We don't answer to you. Like live your life the way you want to live it and stop judging
00:47:18.540 everybody who makes a different choice. I'm sick of it. I, and I know you gals and generally women, 1.00
00:47:23.000 we're not judging moms who choose to stay at home and raise their kids. That's a choice we
00:47:27.440 celebrate. We love those are our sisters and our friends and our moms. Women aren't doing this to 1.00
00:47:31.940 other women for the most part. It's guys like Matt, like, shut up. I'm not out there saying 0.99
00:47:36.100 your wife is boring and a loser because she decided not to get a job. I don't think that I think it's 1.00
00:47:40.580 awesome. She's the mother of six children. She must be incredibly busy, but why are you looking at
00:47:44.420 every woman who works and trying to pass judgment and make her feel guilty about our choices all the 1.00
00:47:48.000 time? It's a fail. We don't feel guilty because of you, but I'm just getting tired of his random
00:47:54.100 posts about how the one woman who said, Oh, I'm confessing that I really liked it when the guy I
00:48:00.700 dated wanted to pay for the meal. And he's like, no, you can't have that unless you play the
00:48:05.920 traditionally feminine role who died and made you boss of all women. What are you saying? 0.85
00:48:11.260 I don't know why he feels the need to try to set fake guardrails around our behavior. It's a no,
00:48:19.160 Matt. We don't need you. Yeah. Yeah. Although we have seen though, there are a lot of these
00:48:24.980 conservative pundits, younger ones, the younger women who are kind of taking that discourse and 0.96
00:48:32.320 running with it and saying, Hey, say no to the high powered careers, ladies. 1.00
00:48:36.300 Wow. Megan. Okay. Uh, you know, I confess that I don't take very kindly to being told to shut up,
00:48:46.080 especially by someone who's supposed to be on the same side and who could reach out to me and
00:48:49.680 voice her concerns privately if she wanted to, but it doesn't hurt my feelings. I could take the heat,
00:48:55.560 which is why I let this go at the time. But this rant is now newly relevant given what she said last
00:49:01.680 week. So keep in mind the language that Megan just used. She said that I don't understand women. 1.00
00:49:08.740 I'm trying to control women. I'm trying to tell women what to do. I'm trying to be a, what Jesus. 1.00
00:49:14.260 I'm trying to be the Jesus of women or whatever. Uh, I'm, I'm judging women. I'm putting up guardrails. 1.00
00:49:20.020 Now, I don't think that that's an accurate characterization at all, but I do think that
00:49:25.060 these terms would pretty well describe Megan's attitude towards young men. So here she is on
00:49:31.920 her show last week. Listen, but here's what's happening on the right. Young women. I, and I
00:49:38.300 talked to young conservative women all the time about their lives and their goals and, you know,
00:49:41.740 the things that they want. And what's happening is they can't find men who are maybe more conservative.
00:49:50.420 Usually they're looking for somebody who is religious, you know, like they're a lot of 1.00
00:49:54.500 conservative women tend to be God, God loving, uh, conservatives and they can't find a lot of 1.00
00:50:02.540 young men who want to marry a working woman. Now, this is an actual pattern that's, that's coming up
00:50:07.380 on the right. And to me, it's so sad because it's like, how did we get to the point where we were now
00:50:13.540 telling young conservative, amazing women that they're not attractive if they also work, if they
00:50:21.520 choose to, let's say, do what I'm doing and what you're doing and like get their voice out there.
00:50:25.960 But I'll stick with me just because I think conservatives listening to this will like the
00:50:29.860 thought of another Megan Kelly voice up and coming. Well, why wouldn't we want that? Why would we take 0.92
00:50:36.700 somebody who's talented in this field and really wants to make a difference and have the messaging to
00:50:41.400 her be? You're really not that valuable unless you give it up and go into the home and only have a
00:50:48.100 family and only raise a family. And the, and the, not only were you sending her that message, but young
00:50:52.400 men are actually believing that they are, they're actually believing it, especially on the right
00:50:56.420 because like the trad mom has gotten so popular and it's like, no, if we do that, we're not going to
00:51:01.980 have any strong conservative or right leaning women to provide a role model for younger conservative 0.97
00:51:09.900 women who, and there's nothing to apologize for here, don't necessarily want to spend all their 1.00
00:51:17.340 twenties and their thirties getting married and having kids. So Megan says that young men these
00:51:23.720 days don't want to marry a career woman. And she says, this is a real problem. She says that these
00:51:30.180 young men are not attracted to working women, but obviously she thinks they should be that these men 1.00
00:51:35.400 are believing the, you know, anti-feminist propaganda. They've been duped, says Megan
00:51:40.600 Kelly. It's very sad. She says it's sad. In other words, it seems that the one putting up guardrails
00:51:48.700 and judging other people for what they want in life is Megan Kelly. Megan doesn't seem to understand
00:51:56.120 these young men. She says that I don't understand women, she says, and I probably understand women more 1.00
00:52:01.280 than she thinks I do, but I admit that I don't understand them perfectly. I'm not a woman after
00:52:05.720 all. I've been married to a woman for almost 15 years. I'm raising two girls. I have a mom and four
00:52:10.140 sisters. I'm not clueless on the subject, but I'm not an expert on the inner life of women. And I've
00:52:14.320 never claimed to be. Likewise, Megan is not an expert on men. In fact, she seems to be rather flummoxed by
00:52:20.980 them. And her confusion is, I think, shared by all of the feminist voices in our culture. And those voices 0.69
00:52:26.880 are a lot louder and have a lot more power than the voices of the young men that she is criticizing
00:52:32.700 here. And this is the message that young men have heard their entire lives from every corner of the
00:52:36.420 culture. And that's why it's worth responding to her in some detail. So I'd like to make a few points.
00:52:42.560 First of all, Megan is correct about her fundamental observation that men are generally not attracted to
00:52:53.160 ambitious, career-driven women. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that men will not marry those
00:52:59.560 kinds of women. And I'm not saying that wives should never have jobs. In many households, both 1.00
00:53:05.020 parents work out of financial necessity. I understand that. There are also many different
00:53:10.040 kinds of jobs that a woman might take on, which don't always require going to an office full-time. 1.00
00:53:15.140 My own wife is right now working on organizing a fundraising gala for a Catholic homeschool hybrid 0.94
00:53:20.680 academy. She enjoys it. She's good at it. It's a service that she's able to provide to support
00:53:25.240 quality Catholic education. And she can do it at home. And I am caricatured by people like Megan as
00:53:32.000 believing that women should only ever do the dishes and laundry and nothing else. But that's not actually
00:53:35.760 my view. I think a woman's first priority should be the children and the home. But that doesn't mean 0.99
00:53:41.860 she can't do other things and pursue other vocations alongside that. And as I said,
00:53:46.540 in many cases, a family might feel that they need two full-time incomes in order to survive. I
00:53:52.120 understand all of that. But this conversation is about ideals and about attraction. What is the ideal
00:53:59.820 that men strive for? What qualities do they find attractive in a woman? So most men ideally would 1.00
00:54:08.720 like to earn an income that would allow them to be the sole breadwinner in the home. Most men 0.82
00:54:13.160 like the idea of being the provider. That ideal will not always become a reality, but it is the
00:54:19.760 ideal. And as for attraction, men are not generally attracted to a woman's professional ambitions.
00:54:25.920 And that's just not the quality that attracts a man to a woman. Now, that isn't to say that men are
00:54:33.340 never attracted to women with careers. What I'm saying is that the fact that a woman has a career 0.69
00:54:39.760 will rarely be the thing or even one of the things that men find attractive about her. 1.00
00:54:46.080 Okay? When a man is talking to his friends about a woman he's dating,
00:54:50.140 he's almost certainly not going to say any version of this. Dude, she's great. She takes her career 1.00
00:54:57.300 really seriously. She's super ambitious. She has so much earning potential. Now, that's the kind of 1.00
00:55:04.380 thing that a woman might say to her friends, maybe using different words, but that's the kind of idea
00:55:09.380 that a woman might communicate to her friends about the man that she's dating. A man is not going to say
00:55:15.160 that about a woman. As a man, I have never heard another man say anything approaching that about a
00:55:23.200 woman that he's dating or married to. I've never heard that. Because men and women are different.
00:55:28.940 They are looking for different things, Megan. A man might be attracted to a woman with a career,
00:55:38.180 but he's not going to be attracted to her because of her career. And a woman who puts her career
00:55:44.520 before anything, a woman who prioritizes her professional ambitions above all else, 0.99
00:55:50.660 will be very unappealing to the vast majority of men. And I know that might be upsetting for you to hear,
00:55:57.800 Megan, but it's just true, okay? Because men and women are different and they want different things.
00:56:07.020 The difference between the romantic interests of a man and of a woman could perhaps be best 0.98
00:56:12.860 summarized this way. Here's a thought experiment. If you give a man a choice between an attractive,
00:56:21.560 sweet, kind, feminine grocery store cashier who makes $13 an hour and wants nothing 1.00
00:56:27.780 more than to become a mother one day, or a high-powered, ambitious, loud, rich, corporate girl
00:56:34.400 boss whose greatest dream is to be a CEO one day, most men, I'm telling you, will choose the former
00:56:40.380 without hesitation. They don't even need to go and consult their friends about it or think about it
00:56:46.580 or pray about it. They're going to take the former, okay? They're going to take the cashier.
00:56:51.200 Now, if you give women the same choice, the mild-mannered, unambitious guy working a cash 0.99
00:56:58.380 register or the highly paid corporate go-getter, you're going to have a lot more takers for the
00:57:03.900 latter option. A lot more. Now, why is that? Am I saying that most women are greedy gold diggers 1.00
00:57:11.080 looking for a rich man to bleed dry? Am I saying that most men are oppressive tyrants looking for 0.96
00:57:16.200 some meek, helpless woman they can control? No. No on both counts. I'm saying that men and women are 0.99
00:57:23.460 different and they want different things, okay? A man is not looking for a business partner.
00:57:33.600 He's not looking for someone to provide for him. He wants a wife. He wants a mother for his future
00:57:40.280 children. He wants a helpmate. He wants a woman, not a man. This is not a new phenomenon.
00:57:47.060 Meghan calls this desire of young men a problem that is coming up on the right. But it's not a 0.87
00:57:52.820 problem and it's not coming up. Kim Iverson responded in agreement with Meghan and said that
00:57:57.840 she, quote, doesn't get this trad wife trend. But what she's calling a trend or what Meghan says is 1.00
00:58:04.120 just coming up is in fact the norm. It's the way human society has been organized since the dawn of
00:58:11.120 civilization. A young man seeking a woman who will have his children and prioritize raising them and 0.98
00:58:16.420 keeping a home is doing the same thing that billions of other young men have done since time
00:58:21.820 immemorial. This traditional approach is not some new fad invented by TikTok influencers, nor is it a
00:58:28.860 far-right conspiracy. It is the way of human civilization. These young men, they want what
00:58:34.140 their grandfathers wanted and what their grandfathers' grandfathers wanted and what their
00:58:38.120 grandfathers' grandfathers' grandfathers wanted and on and on through the ages. The trend, the fad, 0.96
00:58:44.240 the new thing, Meghan, is feminism. However you feel about career women who find their value and purpose 1.00
00:58:51.400 in the working world, there's no question that they are the ones doing something new.
00:58:56.720 Feminism sent women out of the home and into cubicles and boardrooms. Feminism convinced many 1.00
00:59:03.000 women to desire professional success over and above family and children. And now feminists are angry 1.00
00:59:07.920 that men were not reprogrammed along with them. Okay? Men don't want what feminism is selling. 1.00
00:59:17.240 You may think they should want it. You may want them to want it, but they don't. They look out and they
00:59:23.720 see that ever since the rise of feminism, divorce rates have skyrocketed, birth rates have plummeted, 0.98
00:59:27.920 60 million babies are dead, and most people are, by every metric, much more miserable. And they don't
00:59:32.260 want that. You cannot make them want it. And getting angry at them for not wanting it is, first of all,
00:59:38.360 fruitless, second, arrogant, third, unfair, and fourth, foolish. Because these young men that Meghan is 0.99
00:59:45.140 referring to have an innate desire to be providers. Okay? That's why they are not especially interested
00:59:53.480 in women who put their careers first. They want to provide. The desire to provide is a noble desire.
01:00:00.420 Even if many of these men will end up splitting the financial load with their wives in some way,
01:00:04.620 still the desire to provide is noble. And it should be encouraged, not shamed.
01:00:09.660 It's not sad. There's nothing sad here, Meghan. These young men are experiencing a deep,
01:00:16.560 ancient yearning, a yearning to leave home and find a wife and become one flesh, as the scripture
01:00:21.700 says, and then to have children and carry on their bloodline, and then to go back out into the world 1.00
01:00:26.280 on a mission to provide for their family, thereby fulfilling their destiny as men. This desire is
01:00:31.660 primal and timeless. It is not a primal, timeless desire for a colleague or a business partner. It is a
01:00:37.880 desire for a wife, a woman he can provide for and fight for and conquer the world for. And in return,
01:00:44.560 in return, he wants a woman who will have his children and raise and love them and prioritize 0.99
01:00:52.780 them above anything and show him appreciation and respect and affection. That's what young men want.
01:01:01.280 That's what any man wants. And they should be allowed to say that out loud. Okay, men are allowed to 0.78
01:01:07.180 talk about what they want and what they need in relationships. But the problem is that every
01:01:14.140 time a man talks about that, you've got women like Megyn Kelly who get upset about it. They get angry. 1.00
01:01:20.240 They get like, how dare men have any needs, have anything that they want in any of this?
01:01:26.280 Almost every young man wants this until our feminist matriarchal society beats that of him or convinces 1.00
01:01:39.100 him that he can never have it. He can never have the thing that his grandfather had and that his
01:01:44.380 grandfather's grandfathers had and his grandfather's grandfathers had and on and on and on. So if you
01:01:49.820 want to know why so many young men are demoralized and depressed and broken, it's because for their
01:01:55.440 whole lives, they've been told that what they want down at the deepest level of their soul, they should
01:02:00.300 not want and they cannot have. Every man before them in history could have it, but not them.
01:02:07.940 We're too enlightened for that now. The feminists took over and they know better. They know better than 1.00
01:02:13.380 our ancestors knew. They know better than the combined wisdom of all human history. That's the
01:02:19.740 message that these young men hear. You want to talk about sad, Megan? That's sad. That is a tragedy
01:02:27.720 of catastrophic proportions. There's nothing wrong with what these young men want. There is something
01:02:35.120 very wrong with the culture that tells them they shouldn't want it. And that is why Megyn Kelly is
01:02:43.280 today, sadly, canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.
01:02:48.420 Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.