The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1575 - Matt Walsh Breaks Down The Deceptive Propaganda In ‘Adolescence’ Netflix Show

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Netflix recently released a miniseries called Adolescence,

00:00:03.720 which is supposed to expose the problem of toxic masculinity and male rage. The show is fictional

00:00:08.780 and completely far-fetched, but the British government and the media are treating it like

00:00:12.420 a documentary we'll discuss. Also, sports commentator Stephen A. Smith says that he's

00:00:16.220 considering running for president for some reason, and a CNN correspondent shares a hearty laugh with

00:00:20.780 Taylor Lorenz as they fawn over accused murderer Luigi Mangione. We'll talk about all that and

00:00:25.600 more today on the Matt Wall Show.

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00:02:11.080 One of the easiest ways to tell that one side is losing a debate, whether it's about politics or

00:02:17.020 anything else that's grounded in the real world, is when they stop talking about specifics and they

00:02:21.460 start talking about fantasy. Once you have to start relying on pure fiction to make your point,

00:02:26.200 it's usually a pretty good indicator that you don't have much of a point to begin with.

00:02:29.860 When feminists began citing The Handmaid's Tale as a warning of what Donald Trump's administration

00:02:34.960 would look like, serious people understood that it was not a clever analogy or a useful metaphor.

00:02:39.660 It was desperation. It was a bit like citing Shrek as proof that we need to open the borders to

00:02:45.460 creepy-looking outsiders. No one who's attained even a basic level of maturity and competence

00:02:50.460 would fall for that kind of thing. Unfortunately, as we've all known for a while now, basic levels

00:02:56.100 of maturity and competence are nowhere to be found in the UK, which is why the entire country

00:03:01.260 is currently transfixed by a Netflix miniseries called Adolescence. And the show debuted last month,

00:03:08.000 and already it's something of a cultural icon over there. At this point, calling Adolescence

00:03:12.920 a mere miniseries is practically hate speech in Britain. They prefer to think of the show as a

00:03:18.260 documentary, if not their Bible. Everyone is expected to watch the entire show start to finish

00:03:23.360 before they can engage in any kind of public debate on any topic. Now, in a moment, I'll talk

00:03:30.220 about why this is happening. We'll also go through the show episode by episode and discuss the plot

00:03:34.860 and how terrible the whole thing is in every respect. But for now, all you need to know is

00:03:39.300 that, spoiler alert, the show is about a white 13-year-old boy who stabs a female classmate

00:03:45.680 to death. And he was upset because she rejected his advances and then taunted him online about

00:03:50.720 being an incel. And the show makes a big deal out of how online interactions like this, along

00:03:56.980 with misogynistic content on the internet, can supposedly radicalize young boys and turn them

00:04:02.600 into killers. From a production standpoint, the central gimmick of the show is that all

00:04:07.000 four episodes are done in one take. At least that's how they present it, with no camera cuts

00:04:13.000 of any kind. So you follow the journey of this 13-year-old kid as he's arrested for murder

00:04:17.720 and processed, interrogated, and so on at various points as a result of this groundbreaking approach

00:04:22.700 to production, which has been done much better already in other films and other shows.

00:04:27.200 But you're treated to uneventful 10-minute-long car rides to the local store, you know, which is

00:04:34.320 really riveting television. But they have to do that because they insist on just doing this all in

00:04:37.880 one take. Now, as far as I could tell, the point of this gimmick is to remind you of why things like

00:04:43.980 cuts and editing were invented in the first place. And if that was the objective, then mission

00:04:48.840 accomplished. But before we get further into the specifics of the show, just so that you understand

00:04:52.860 the magnitude of the mass psychosis I'm talking about, you need to watch this interview that just

00:04:57.640 aired on a morning show called BBC Breakfast. Throughout this entire conversation, the two

00:05:03.180 anchors berate the leader of Britain's Conservative Party, a woman named Kemi Bandanok, for not watching

00:05:10.880 this show, Adolescence. And as the interview goes on, the anchors become more and more annoyed

00:05:15.820 with the politician for not showing the proper deference to this show, which the anchor calls

00:05:20.860 a documentary at one point. It's pretty remarkable. Watch.

00:05:26.340 Have you watched Adolescence yet?

00:05:29.060 No, no, I haven't. I probably won't. It's a film on Netflix, and most of my time right

00:05:33.840 now is spent visiting the country.

00:05:36.360 It's a four-part series on Netflix, and everyone is talking about it. It is prompting conversations

00:05:42.760 about toxic masculinity, smartphone use, young men feeling that they're being ignored, the

00:05:52.020 idea of misogyny being increased in school. Why would you not want to know what people

00:05:56.740 are talking about?

00:05:57.600 Well, I think that those are all important issues, and those were issues that I've been

00:06:00.620 talking about for a long time. But in the same way that I don't need to watch Casualty

00:06:04.620 to know what's going on in the NHS, I don't need to watch a specific Netflix drama to understand

00:06:09.100 what's going on. It's a fictional series. It is not a documentary. What I've been talking

00:06:15.200 about recently, for instance, is banning smartphones in schools. I've been going to

00:06:19.040 schools all around the country. I was in Evesham just yesterday, talking to headteachers,

00:06:24.120 talking to students, and they talk about the problems that phones are causing.

00:06:27.920 The difference this documentary has made compared to, say, a politician, any politician, leader

00:06:33.400 of a party, the prime minister, going around talking in schools, is this has made much

00:06:38.120 more of an impact than any politician has in terms of what people are talking about right

00:06:42.080 now.

00:06:44.040 Just to remind you, this is real. This is not like a comedy skit. And it's, I mean, you

00:06:48.340 know, I'm thinking I should do this. I want to do an interview where we invite some important

00:06:53.080 politician on, and I'm just going to berate them for 10 minutes about not having seen my

00:06:58.100 favorite movie. You know, I'll ask them, have you seen, have you seen Master and Commander,

00:07:04.120 the 2003 Russell Crowe film about a naval ship? You haven't, why haven't you seen it? Why would

00:07:11.820 you not watch this movie? Because that's the most important thing, is that you've watched my

00:07:16.340 favorite thing that happens to be on TV. We'll play more of this interview in a second, but

00:07:20.360 it's important to highlight this particular moment. Remember, she says, the difference this

00:07:24.260 documentary has made is that this has made much more of an impact than any politician has in terms

00:07:29.920 of what people are talking about right now. This is the anchor's response when the conservative

00:07:34.320 leader reminds her again and again that the show is fictional. She calls it a documentary

00:07:37.960 and says the show is being taken far more seriously than anything any political figure is saying.

00:07:42.880 But instead of treating that like a very bad development for public discourse in Britain,

00:07:47.780 the BBC anchor embraces it. She's thrilled that the country has decided to abandon reality and fixate

00:07:53.420 on a fictional diagnosis of their problems. And she can't understand why the politician is

00:07:58.120 confused and appalled by all of this. And the male anchor gets in on the action too. He begins

00:08:03.500 accosting the politician because she dared to compare adolescence to casualty, which is another

00:08:08.160 fictional show that the British can't get enough of, I guess. And that's when Bananak reminds them of

00:08:14.480 the actual problems facing the country in, you know, reality. Watch.

00:08:20.060 One of the things that I'm more bothered by is the fact that just yesterday we had Labour telling us that

00:08:25.800 they're not going to be investigating the rape gang scandal, something which had happened all across

00:08:30.460 the country. That's real. That's happening right now. We're not talking about that. We're talking

00:08:34.940 about a fictional documentary.

00:08:36.180 Do you think you're...

00:08:36.600 We had thousands of... If I may just finish. We had thousands of victims.

00:08:40.860 Female victims. Those are girls, young women, and some boys too.

00:08:44.280 I met the mother of a boy who killed himself after being a victim.

00:08:47.120 I want to talk about that because that is real. And yes, I'm glad that the Netflix drama

00:08:52.020 is something that people are talking about. But it is not the only thing. There are many

00:08:55.500 other things that are going on. And my job as opposition leader is to hold the government

00:09:00.400 to account, get them to hold a full national inquiry on what is one of the biggest scandals

00:09:05.160 in our country.

00:09:05.560 And do you stand by the thing you just said a moment ago, that you're comparing adolescents

00:09:10.520 with casualty, these TV programmes? Did you really mean to say that?

00:09:16.180 I'm saying very clearly that my job is not to watch lots of TV. My job is to get out

00:09:21.820 there and make sure that I'm talking about the issues that are happening in the country

00:09:25.080 right now. There are many ways for us to be informed.

00:09:27.400 Adolescence has made more of an impact than any politician has on parents and when it comes

00:09:31.900 to the issue of smartphones and misogyny. And yet you are saying, despite that, you don't

00:09:37.240 need to know about it.

00:09:38.020 Well, no, I haven't said that I don't need to know about the issue.

00:09:39.580 You don't need to watch it.

00:09:40.560 I don't need to watch a specific show to know what is going on in this country. It's

00:09:45.280 a fictional show. Let's talk about what's real. I'm going out there every day. I have

00:09:49.940 constituents coming to me, telling me what they're worried about. I had a colleague,

00:09:53.580 an MP who was murdered due to Islamic terrorism. You look at what's happened in Southport.

00:09:58.440 You look at what's happening in Rotherham, in Oldham. There are real issues.

00:10:02.900 Do you stand by, do you stand by not watching my favourite show? Oh, you stand by that?

00:10:09.580 Have you ever seen Everybody Loves Raymond? Oh, you haven't. Oh, do you stand by that? Do you today,

00:10:17.600 in front of all these people, stand by having not seen my favourite sitcom? Interesting. Hmm.

00:10:26.360 Now, Bananak is trying to explain that in Britain, Islamic terrorists are killing people in the street 1.00

00:10:32.320 and Pakistani sex abuse gangs are terrorizing children. These are real problems. But the anchors 1.00

00:10:35.940 didn't ask a single question about any of that. Instead, they just continue to grill her over the

00:10:40.920 13-year-old white killer in a fictional Netflix show. We're supposed to believe that this made-up

00:10:46.720 13-year-old character, his name is Jamie, is representative of the real threat in the UK.

00:10:51.880 Now, from a statistical perspective, that is not simply false. It is one of the most flagrant lies

00:10:57.520 that BBC has ever told, which of course is saying something. The statistic I'm about to read comes

00:11:03.120 directly from the website of the Government of London, and it's accurate as of 2022. Quote,

00:11:09.000 despite making up only 13% of London's total population, black Londoners account for 45%

00:11:15.300 of London's knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators, and 53% of knife crime

00:11:22.300 perpetrators. In England and Wales, as of 2017, roughly 38% of youth knife crime charges involve

00:11:28.740 ethnic minorities, even though they're only around 70% of the population. And of course,

00:11:33.780 most of these killers come from broken homes, as one UK study found. More than 70% of violent youth

00:11:40.260 offenders came from single-parent households. Now, if all of these numbers sound familiar,

00:11:44.740 especially the 13% accounting for 50% thing, well, that's because that's how crime stats break down

00:11:53.020 in our country as well. Meanwhile, violence that's targeted against women, the problem that

00:11:58.140 adolescence is all about, is actually declining. Let's take a look at this chart. As you can see,

00:12:03.400 violence against women in particular has been declining for decades in the UK.

00:12:07.660 So there's no wave of young males taking out their aggression on women. On the other hand,

00:12:12.020 there is an epidemic of violence that's being committed by Britain's non-white population, 1.00

00:12:16.780 which has exploded in recent years. According to the UK's Office for National Statistics,

00:12:22.060 knife crime has increased by roughly one-third since 2010, as the population has grown dramatically

00:12:26.260 due to migration. Now, people in the UK can see that this is happening all around them.

00:12:32.340 But now, rather than confront reality, they're creating a fantasy world in which white young 0.99

00:12:37.680 men are the actual problem. The British government is playing a large role in creating this alternate

00:12:43.000 universe for the obvious reason that it deflects from their failures. And that's why they're now

00:12:47.120 instructing schools to play adolescence for their students as if it has any kind of instructional value

00:12:54.860 whatsoever. Watch.

00:12:56.920 It has sparked a national conversation, and now the prime minister wants to be a part of it.

00:13:02.440 And I have to be honest, as a dad, I have not found it easy viewing.

00:13:07.900 The creators of Adolescence were invited to Downing Street, along with youth charities,

00:13:12.220 to discuss the show's themes.

00:13:14.200 The thing that's been really lovely since the show's been on has been hearing friends, family,

00:13:19.800 people that I barely know, contact me and tell me that they're having conversations on the sofa

00:13:24.320 that they haven't had with their teenagers.

00:13:26.480 He's got something he wants to talk to you all about.

00:13:28.560 In order to prompt more of those often difficult discussions, the program is being made available

00:13:34.380 to all secondary schools in the UK for free.

00:13:37.760 So they're calling Adolescence a documentary, and they're using it as an educational tool in

00:13:43.160 schools now. This is the British equivalent of the Handmaid's Tale metaphor, except

00:13:46.860 the entire country is transfixed by it. So what is this show exactly? And just how terrible is it?

00:13:53.600 Well, as it turns out, it's not simply an example of race swapping in this show, as you've probably

00:13:58.720 heard many others say online. Yes, they've made sure that a white boy stabs the victim in this show

00:14:03.900 instead of somebody more realistic, like a Somali migrant, for example. But if you watch Adolescence,

00:14:09.380 you'll realize that this is actually much worse than a simple race swap. That's just the beginning

00:14:13.760 of what's going on here. Throughout the entire show, they beat you over the head with the idea that

00:14:17.620 there's a vast underground community of white misogynist men lurking in the shadows because 0.97

00:14:24.420 their brains have been poisoned by content that they're seeing on Instagram or whatever. 0.99

00:14:28.680 For one thing, the killer's white male best friend supplies the murder weapon and knife 0.78

00:14:32.420 so the killer can scare the female victim with it. And this is all very upsetting to the studious

00:14:37.600 black student in the school who's dismayed by all the white male rage that surrounds him.

00:14:42.580 Then there's a scene where the father of the killer goes to the hardware store,

00:14:45.640 and he's trying to buy paint because his work van has just been sprayed with graffiti.

00:14:50.600 And then when he's talking to an employee who happens to be a young white man,

00:14:54.260 the employee suddenly starts whispering, and the employee tells the father that he's on his side,

00:14:59.220 meaning that he thinks his son didn't do anything wrong. And then he starts offering advice to the

00:15:03.140 father about how his son could be acquitted by challenging certain pieces of evidence,

00:15:07.320 even though the murder was caught on surveillance footage. The employee even tells the father to launch

00:15:11.600 a crowdfunding campaign because there are apparently a lot of other angry white men out there who 0.98

00:15:16.560 think it's great when white males stab innocent victims to death. Now, as maybe you've already 0.98

00:15:23.840 realized, the irony, of course, is that there is indeed a large community that's willing to pay money

00:15:29.840 to killers who stab people to death for no reason, but it's not a community of young white men.

00:15:34.880 I mean, in reality, so that's what happened in the fictional show. In the real world,

00:15:41.180 the fundraisers are being established for thugs like Carmelo Anthony, as we discussed last week.

00:15:45.480 In fact, Anthony has now raised a half a million dollars at this point, a half a million,

00:15:53.280 $500,000 because he stabbed a white high school student in the heart during a track meet.

00:15:57.940 But in the world of adolescence, reality is inverted. We're supposed to pretend that

00:16:02.660 all of these deep-seated cultural problems exist among young white men to the point that

00:16:07.620 the father can't even go to a hardware store without being reminded of how many angry incels

00:16:12.120 are out there. And in case you're wondering just how angry these 13-year-old incels can be in this

00:16:17.640 world, there's also an entire episode that's devoted to the killer doing an interview with a

00:16:22.860 female forensic psychologist. And for an entire hour, you get to listen to this child talking

00:16:27.880 to the psychologist. And it's supposed to be really profound because this is the first time

00:16:32.700 that you see how angry and vindictive this child can become when he's dealing face-to-face with a

00:16:37.660 woman. And the dialogue includes truly clever lines like, what do these emojis mean? And the kid's

00:16:43.600 hour-long interview with this psychologist ends with her telling him that there won't be any more

00:16:48.000 sessions between the two of them. And then the child freaks out and berates her. It has to be

00:16:52.520 carried out of the room. So again, they're beating you over the head with the idea that

00:16:56.800 he needs to control women with his male rage. And then the psychologist breaks down practically in

00:17:02.780 tears because even though she's an adult professional who's trained for situations just like this one,

00:17:07.520 she's still no match for the male rage of a 13-year-old kid. And the rest of the episodes are

00:17:13.360 just as ludicrous. There's a scene where a white kid assaults a black girl at school. There's a scene 0.99

00:17:17.960 where the black girl is distrustful of the police. And all this, of course, is evidence that systemic

00:17:22.140 racism is real in this world of this fictional world of Netflix. And then there's a scene where

00:17:27.760 the son of the detective on the case, a wise black pupil at the school, explains to his father,

00:17:31.980 who's also the detective, what's going on. He says that girls at the school, including the victim,

00:17:36.920 bully the boys online, calling them incels and so on. And the pupil explains to his detective father

00:17:41.740 that he'll never understand just how damaging this can be to kids. And at one point, just to underscore

00:17:48.320 how out of touch the detective is, he asks his son to define what the word incel means.

00:17:53.960 And once again, the message here is completely backwards because they're trying to suggest,

00:17:58.240 even when you have a loving and intact family, which is the case for the 13-year-old killer in

00:18:03.220 the show, that it's still no defense against the emojis of the online manosphere. You know,

00:18:09.860 having an intact family is supposedly no assurance that if your son is cyber bullied by a girl,

00:18:14.980 that he won't go out and stab her to death in a parking lot because he's been brainwashed by

00:18:20.120 Andrew Tate. So the show makes this messaging explicit. It's not a very subtle production.

00:18:26.100 Throughout the entire series, it's clear that the killer's family is very concerned with his

00:18:29.580 well-being. They're with him when he's arrested. They're hugging him and showing him affection

00:18:33.740 constantly and so on. The mother and father are together. They're married. And yet, to their shock

00:18:38.780 and horror, their kid becomes a murderer anyway. And just in case you missed the message they're

00:18:43.200 trying to send, the show's creators have given about a thousand interviews where they explain

00:18:47.120 that, in their view, having an intact family will not prevent your child from going out and committing

00:18:53.240 murder. Here's just a few examples of them saying this.

00:18:57.620 This wasn't about othering, Jamie. Don't put this in the extraordinary. Make this feel like it could

00:19:03.780 happen to you because that is the reality of what is happening in our world.

00:19:08.620 You'd have a bit by your side all the way through it.

00:19:10.360 All right. Okay. Okay.

00:19:12.280 We wanted the audience to be thinking, there's no way he's done this. This kid couldn't do

00:19:17.080 that. So for him to see this act committed by his boy, he's poleaxed. And his life from

00:19:25.960 that moment on will never be the same again.

00:19:28.460 It was really important to Stephen that this wasn't a show that made easy answers.

00:19:32.340 What do you do? Eddie?

00:19:34.580 The one thing he said to me right at the beginning was, we can't blame the parents.

00:19:38.180 I didn't want Jamie to come from a background where his mum was a drinker or his dad was

00:19:47.980 violent and aggressive. I wanted to eliminate all of those things. To try and get the audience

00:19:55.380 to ask the question, why? But also in the same respect, think that could be me. That could be my child.

00:20:06.740 I wish he'd have picked you. You'd have done better.

00:20:10.600 No.

00:20:11.300 Yeah, he would.

00:20:11.920 We wanted to make this feel like it could happen to you. The one thing he said to me right at the

00:20:16.680 beginning was that we can't blame the parents, close quote. So in other words, the single most

00:20:21.060 important variable that's indicative of childhood delinquency, which is a lack of proper parenting,

00:20:25.900 was taken off the table before they even wrote a word of the show. Now, if you remove broken homes,

00:20:32.780 mass migration, and Islamic jihad from the equation, everyone knows that knife crime would plummet in

00:20:40.200 the UK. It would almost disappear. But those are the three topics that from the outset they knew

00:20:45.640 they couldn't talk about. So they've decided to base the entire show around an extreme outlier

00:20:50.860 fictional case, which is fine in and of itself. I mean, you can have a show that's based around

00:20:56.260 some extreme event happening. There are plenty of shows and films like that. But the problem is that

00:21:01.400 the media and the British government and the creators of the show are treating it like it's not

00:21:06.340 an outlier case, as if the plot of this show happens all the time. So that's the kind of

00:21:11.860 sleight of hand trick here. The producers claim that it's impossible to understand what drives the

00:21:16.600 supposed epidemic of male rage beyond vague personalities on the internet. Watch.

00:21:22.780 I thought the show was, it was a good watch, but it was a very intense watch. I mean, the subject matter

00:21:27.660 was, I mean, it just feels so relevant to so much of what's happening today. And obviously, Stephen,

00:21:33.820 you kind of co-create and co-wrote this. I'd love to start by knowing just what kind of triggered

00:21:38.580 you to deal with this topic.

00:21:41.660 I read an incident in the paper, and it was about a young boy killing a young girl,

00:21:48.480 stabbing a young girl to death. And then not long after that, I saw on the news, on the television,

00:21:53.220 you know, it happened again in a different, completely different part of the country.

00:21:57.820 And a young boy had stabbed a young girl. And if I'm really honest with you, both of those incidents

00:22:03.780 really hurt my heart, in a way. And it just made me think, what's going on?

00:22:08.600 Why? What's happened in today's society where

00:22:11.900 a young boy, and they are young boys,

00:22:16.640 feel a need, or

00:22:17.920 this age, or whatever it may be,

00:22:21.080 you know, I'll never understand it. To kill a young girl, 1.00

00:22:25.580 to stab a young girl to death. 1.00

00:22:27.260 Especially when you're dealing with incel culture, 1.00

00:22:29.400 Manosphere, I know Andrew Tate's

00:22:31.420 name is mentioned in this, although you've said

00:22:33.380 you don't really want the show to be dominated by that name.

00:22:36.100 It is mentioned in this show, but it's only ever mentioned by adults.

00:22:39.040 And that's really deliberate. Because Andrew Tate

00:22:41.500 is the way that adults understand this issue.

00:22:43.980 Whereas actually,

00:22:45.200 the people who are doing the real damage

00:22:47.080 are not him. He's not

00:22:48.880 taken seriously by kids.

00:22:51.100 Really. You know, like, you know,

00:22:52.700 there's a lot more pernicious

00:22:54.600 presences out there that are

00:22:57.060 the real damage. You know, but it's not

00:22:59.100 just about the parents. It's about everything. It's societal.

00:23:01.380 It's governmental. Do you know what I mean?

00:23:02.920 You know, we need to be talking about

00:23:04.720 male rage. And how

00:23:07.120 male rage has been enabled by

00:23:09.080 social media.

00:23:11.680 So you see how excited he gets

00:23:13.040 when he talks about the Andrew Tate name drop.

00:23:15.160 He thinks it's a clever way, you know, to say

00:23:17.020 well, you don't really understand why we mentioned Andrew

00:23:19.160 Tate in the show. We're just making fun of the dumb 0.99

00:23:21.040 adults. But at the same time, he's 1.00

00:23:23.140 obviously a dumb adult himself. 0.98

00:23:24.840 And that's why he offers none of his own conclusions about what's 0.99

00:23:27.120 happening in Britain. But it's

00:23:29.200 really not hard to do.

00:23:31.360 I mean, take a look at this image, for example.

00:23:33.100 This is the Netflix

00:23:34.100 stabber. He's a fictional character.

00:23:37.120 He was supposedly radicalized by

00:23:39.280 emojis and mean comments he read on the

00:23:41.160 internet and the manosphere and male rage

00:23:43.400 and everything and toxic masculinity.

00:23:44.780 But really, we'll never

00:23:46.940 know. It's a mystery that can't truly be solved.

00:23:48.880 Now, take a look at this person.

00:23:50.940 This is the son of African migrants 0.61

00:23:52.900 who stabbed three girls to death at the Taylor 0.77

00:23:54.840 Swift dance studio.

00:23:56.680 And guess what radicalized him?

00:23:58.920 Well, as it happens, it's not much of a mystery.

00:24:01.000 He was carrying an Al-Qaeda training manual

00:24:02.920 around. So, on the one hand,

00:24:05.100 in real life, the motivations are

00:24:06.920 pretty clear. But on Netflix,

00:24:09.040 there's no definitive answer.

00:24:10.360 This is one of the most

00:24:13.020 familiar tools that propagandists use.

00:24:14.820 They try to pretend that reality is hopelessly

00:24:16.660 confusing. You can't possibly begin to understand

00:24:18.740 it. But actually, it's pretty simple.

00:24:20.840 If both parents are responsible and present

00:24:22.780 in the household, there's a

00:24:24.540 dramatically lower chance that their son will become

00:24:26.680 a knife murderer.

00:24:28.380 I mean, it almost, if you 0.75

00:24:30.000 stay married and you

00:24:32.600 pay attention to your kids and you love them,

00:24:34.920 there's an almost

00:24:36.700 zero chance that your child will become

00:24:38.640 a murderer by the age of 13 or any

00:24:40.560 other age. Not zero, but

00:24:42.560 almost zero.

00:24:45.340 Along the same lines, if a

00:24:46.560 country stops importing third world migrants,

00:24:48.700 there's a much lower chance that

00:24:50.540 jihadists will storm the local Taylor Swift 0.93

00:24:52.480 dance studio. I mean, it's that simple.

00:24:54.740 In the UK, common sense observations like

00:24:56.640 this are basically outlawed, which is why

00:24:58.660 we have headlines like this one from

00:25:00.420 GB News the other day. Quote,

00:25:02.040 a Somali criminal seeking asylum in the UK has avoided

00:25:04.440 deportation after a judge ruled that

00:25:06.420 returning him to his home country would cause him 0.92

00:25:08.200 stress. The unnamed asylum

00:25:10.180 seeker who has been dependent on alcohol

00:25:12.240 since 2006 would suffer stress

00:25:14.380 if deported to Somalia, which would

00:25:16.220 worsen his mental health.

00:25:18.740 Yes, we wouldn't want to 0.98

00:25:19.800 stress out the Somali criminal. 0.89

00:25:22.820 They won't even say what crimes this 0.83

00:25:24.240 Somali committed, by the way. The information is

00:25:26.080 classified. All you need to know

00:25:28.220 is that it would really, really make him

00:25:30.180 angry and sad if he was deported. So he gets to

00:25:32.180 stay. Rather than highlight

00:25:34.320 the absurdity of rulings like this, of

00:25:36.080 government policy that directly leads to

00:25:37.900 more murders every year in Britain,

00:25:40.300 Netflix would prefer to blame young white 0.88

00:25:42.120 men who spend too much time online.

00:25:44.340 That's the function of the show Adolescence,

00:25:46.440 and it's why the show is revered

00:25:48.260 like holy scripture in the UK as

00:25:50.080 we've seen. They're pretending fiction

00:25:52.140 is reality because they don't want you to notice

00:25:54.180 what's actually happening.

00:25:56.540 Pay no attention to the

00:25:58.080 reality you can see right in front of

00:26:00.140 you. Watch Netflix

00:26:02.060 instead. That seems to

00:26:04.100 be the message, and

00:26:05.140 whatever we do, we can't fall for

00:26:08.040 it. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:27:13.420 Stephen A.

00:27:14.240 Smith, the sports analyst who shouts

00:27:16.180 a lot, has been getting some buzz

00:27:18.000 recently as a potential 2028

00:27:20.000 presidential contender, which

00:27:22.080 I find hilarious. So

00:27:24.140 on Sunday, he made the rounds on

00:27:26.120 the talk shows where he confirmed that he might,

00:27:28.180 in fact, run for president.

00:27:30.840 Let's watch a little bit of this.

00:27:32.940 I saw you mentioned Bill

00:27:34.180 Maher. I saw Steve Bannon was on with Bill

00:27:35.900 Maher, and he was asked what Democrats he worries

00:27:37.980 about. And you know what the only name he

00:27:39.840 mentioned? As a Democrat, he'd be worried

00:27:41.800 about. So are you, are you really,

00:27:44.500 are you really thinking about running for

00:27:45.900 president? Is this something you think?

00:27:47.420 Listen, I've been,

00:27:49.420 I have no choice because I've had elected

00:27:51.900 officials, and I'm not going to give their names,

00:27:53.620 elected officials coming up to me. I've had

00:27:56.060 folks who are pundits come up

00:27:57.700 to me. I've had folks that

00:27:59.680 got a lot of money, billionaires and

00:28:01.620 others that have talked to me about

00:28:03.260 exploratory committees and things of that

00:28:05.020 nature. I'm not a politician. I've never

00:28:06.760 had a desire to be a politician. I just

00:28:08.680 signed a contract extension with ESPN.

00:28:11.000 I am very, very happy with my day job.

00:28:13.600 I'm very happy with my boss. This is a

00:28:15.080 pretty damn good one. Just right. It's a

00:28:16.700 pretty damn good contract. I couldn't be

00:28:18.520 happier. But here's the reality.

00:28:20.760 People, literally, people have walked up to

00:28:23.000 me, including my own pastor, for crying

00:28:24.940 out loud, who has said to me, you don't

00:28:27.080 know what God has planned for you. At

00:28:28.880 least show the respect to the people who

00:28:31.220 believe in you, who respect you, who

00:28:33.160 believe that you can make a difference in

00:28:34.540 this country, to leave the door open for

00:28:36.900 any possibilities two to three years down

00:28:39.000 the line. And that's what I've decided

00:28:40.780 to do. But again, whether it's Westmore,

00:28:43.320 Governor Westmore, who I know, or Governor

00:28:44.840 Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania, who I know,

00:28:47.180 Andrew Cuomo, who I had the pleasure of.

00:28:49.360 Yeah, yeah, okay. So it goes through the

00:28:50.580 name drops. He says he has no choice but

00:28:54.080 to, no choice but to consider running for

00:28:57.780 president. Must heed the call. I must heed

00:29:01.440 the call of the pundits who've told me to

00:29:03.600 run. It's my solemn duty, my sacred

00:29:05.560 responsibility. He says, what I love about

00:29:08.240 this is that Stephen A. Smith has never

00:29:11.500 done anything ever that should lead anyone

00:29:14.640 to believe that he could be president. The

00:29:17.400 only reason that he has any of this buzz

00:29:19.120 about being president is that he's gone on

00:29:21.620 podcasts recently, given his opinion on

00:29:23.840 politics. That's it. He has recently, only

00:29:27.780 recently, shown some vague awareness of

00:29:31.780 politics, which means he should be

00:29:33.900 president. He started talking about

00:29:36.180 politics five minutes ago, and now we

00:29:38.400 have people saying, oh yeah, well that guy

00:29:40.060 should be president then. He said one thing

00:29:43.540 about politics last Tuesday that I sort of

00:29:45.920 agree with. Well, he should be president.

00:29:49.000 Obviously. Not even like, oh, senator or

00:29:52.940 governor or congressman. Presidents. He

00:29:55.780 should go right to presidents of the United

00:29:57.840 States. He should be the most powerful man in

00:30:00.060 the world because he said some opinions on a

00:30:03.240 podcast. This guy has never been involved in

00:30:08.820 any kind of political, you know, activism or

00:30:12.200 organizing. He has not been engaged in

00:30:15.640 politics at all until 10 seconds ago. He has

00:30:18.740 no experience leading in any form or any

00:30:22.280 capacity at all ever. He's not a business

00:30:25.080 owner. He's never held public office. He's

00:30:26.900 never led any organization of any size at

00:30:29.400 any point ever in his life. All he's done in

00:30:32.940 his career is shout his opinions about

00:30:35.040 sports. That's it. And recently he's also

00:30:37.920 sort of shouted his opinions about about

00:30:39.540 politics occasionally. His opinions, which

00:30:41.700 by the way, is not insightful or

00:30:45.000 interesting. You know, just saying, oh, I

00:30:47.880 hate everyone. They're all terrible. I don't 0.99

00:30:50.000 like Republicans or Democrats. OK, like you

00:30:54.400 get these guys like Stephen A. Smith who

00:30:55.780 come along and they say that we're all

00:30:57.020 supposed to go. Oh, wow, that's edgy. He

00:30:59.760 doesn't like anyone. I've never heard that

00:31:02.100 before. OK, that's not any kind of special

00:31:04.880 insight. That's what everyone says. His

00:31:08.960 takes are lukewarm, shallow surface level.

00:31:11.960 Stephen A. Smith is only impressive, only

00:31:15.880 impressive to the kinds of people who think

00:31:18.440 that like George Carlin was a was was a

00:31:20.980 great philosophical mind of our time. You

00:31:24.220 know, the people who that that posted

00:31:25.880 George Carlin clip and they say, this is

00:31:28.240 amazing. This guy was a genius. I wish we

00:31:29.960 still had George Carlin around. And then

00:31:32.200 you watch it. It's just George Carlin

00:31:34.000 going. Rich people are screwed us all up. 0.97

00:31:36.660 You know, rich people are the worst, aren't 1.00

00:31:38.040 they? Right, folks? Aren't rich people the 0.98

00:31:40.980 worst? Damned rich people. That's that's 1.00

00:31:45.180 it. You know, you've got these people that

00:31:46.660 post those clips. This is wow. Wow.

00:31:49.920 Incredible. Did you hear what he said about

00:31:52.920 how rich people are bad? I've never heard

00:31:55.680 that before.

00:32:00.000 Whether you think there's any truth to that

00:32:01.740 at all, by the way, it's like it's it's it's

00:32:03.340 what five billion other people have already

00:32:05.320 said. It's a it's a political rant that

00:32:08.380 high school sophomores and any high school

00:32:10.580 sophomore could deliver exactly that rant.

00:32:13.600 So anyway, that's Stephen A. Smith's

00:32:16.100 politics. That that's that's his political

00:32:18.220 insight. But this is isn't even about

00:32:20.440 politics. I mean, this is this is about a

00:32:24.040 guy entertaining running for president

00:32:26.760 president, despite having no zero, no

00:32:32.760 leadership experience at all at any level

00:32:37.180 ever. And of course, people will say and I've

00:32:41.880 already heard this from people that, yeah, well,

00:32:44.860 but but Trump became president with no political

00:32:46.780 experience. And that just shows you that lots of

00:32:48.980 people still don't understand the Trump

00:32:51.040 phenomenon somehow. Yes, Trump was an outsider,

00:32:54.380 but he was also a businessman who had operated at a

00:32:56.960 very high level for a long time. And he had been

00:32:59.720 he'd been engaged and speaking about issues like

00:33:02.700 trade and so on for decades by by the by the time

00:33:06.980 that he ran. So this was a business mogul with a long

00:33:10.580 track record on issues like the economy and trade and

00:33:12.940 foreign policy, which is very different from an ESPN

00:33:16.460 personality whose entire career has been spent shouting

00:33:20.540 about basketball. It's a very different thing.

00:33:26.620 Political experience isn't necessarily important if you

00:33:29.280 want to run for president. In fact, as we've seen, you

00:33:31.520 know, I mean, there's something to be said for people that

00:33:33.460 don't have political experience, but leadership

00:33:35.700 experience is important. That's essential. If

00:33:40.680 somebody's made it to the age of 60 or whatever, however old

00:33:43.040 Stephen A. Smith is and has no leadership experience, then I

00:33:46.500 wouldn't hire them to run a Wendy's. If I was the owner, if

00:33:50.120 I was a franchise owner of Wendy's restaurants, I would

00:33:54.100 not hire Stephen A. Smith to manage one of the restaurants

00:33:58.260 because he has he has never displayed any leadership or

00:34:02.260 organizational skills at any level. So why would I think

00:34:06.260 that he could even run a Wendy's, much less the country, for

00:34:09.980 God's sake. So, you know, when you have some celebrity who

00:34:13.380 wants to run for office, if they have no relevant

00:34:16.400 experience, if they weren't even politically engaged or

00:34:19.280 interested until recently, then there's a really good test to

00:34:22.600 see whether they're running because they want to serve or

00:34:25.920 whether they're running because they are on an ego trip and

00:34:29.860 this is a publicity stunt. And the test is this. What office are

00:34:36.260 they running for? Okay, if Stephen A. Smith was talking about

00:34:39.820 running for state senator or even Congress, I would say, okay,

00:34:43.060 you know, maybe he's doing this because he feels called to do

00:34:46.920 it. I still wouldn't vote for him, but I would at least buy

00:34:50.940 that maybe this isn't this is sincere. Maybe it's more than

00:34:54.420 just an ego trip. But if they're going right for the

00:34:56.820 highest office in the land, right from the top spot from

00:35:00.760 zero leadership experience of any kind to president, then

00:35:05.920 then that that tells you this is just an ego trip. If you had

00:35:10.840 even an ounce of humility, you would recognize you need to

00:35:13.520 prove yourself. You need to work your way up. You can't just,

00:35:17.880 you know, jump in like I mean, how would Stephen A. Smith react

00:35:22.180 if the janitor at ESPN went to his bosses and said, hey, give me

00:35:25.900 Stephen A. Smith's job. You know, I've never been a sports

00:35:29.340 analyst at all ever. I have zero experience in anything relevant

00:35:33.520 to this, but give me his job. Well, I'm pretty sure that Stephen A.

00:35:38.420 Smith would say to that, like, wait a second. No, no, no. That

00:35:40.460 guy, I mean, he's never, I've been doing this forever. This guy's

00:35:43.560 never done anything like this ever. So you can't, obviously, you

00:35:46.760 can't just give him my job. Even though actually pretty much

00:35:52.260 anyone can do sports analysis. If you watch, if you watch sports,

00:35:55.900 you can do sports analysis. It's not that hard. But not anyone can be a

00:36:00.540 good president, as we've seen. That's not a job that just anyone

00:36:04.060 can slide into and do well. And so that's the case here. All that

00:36:12.060 said, I hope he does run. And I hope the Democrats nominate him. I

00:36:19.460 don't really see that happening, but I hope it does. Because it'll be

00:36:23.460 a total bloodbath. I mean, this should probably be the last time

00:36:27.800 that I rant about why Stephen A. Smith shouldn't run. Because

00:36:30.120 really, he should. I mean, you know, just being strategic, it would be

00:36:36.220 great if he ran and somehow was nominated by the Democrats. Because it

00:36:40.220 would make the, you know, the wave in this past election look like a

00:36:48.360 ripple in a pool, right? Compared to the title wave, the red title

00:36:53.420 wave that would happen if they ran Stephen A. Smith. Oh, yeah, those

00:36:57.360 Rust Belt voters are really looking for a guy whose experience is shouting

00:37:02.080 about LeBron James. That's who they're looking for, those Rust Belt voters,

00:37:06.060 all right. So, yeah. Forget everything that I said. I think that Stephen A.

00:37:12.180 Smith should definitely run for president. And if you're a Democrat, you

00:37:14.880 should nominate him. I think that'd be fantastic. Okay, this is pretty

00:37:19.400 great. Gretchen Whitmer, the Wicked Witch of Michigan, also the governor

00:37:23.840 there, appeared at the White House a few days ago. And she was there

00:37:28.800 ostensibly to talk about federal funding for an Air National Guard base or

00:37:34.480 something. But what she didn't expect, reportedly, is that, so reportedly she

00:37:42.340 thought this would be a private meeting, but she got led into the Oval Office

00:37:45.340 where a whole gaggle of reporters were waiting for her. And because she didn't

00:37:50.500 want anyone really to know that she was palling around with Donald Trump. And so

00:37:55.300 she walked into this room, into the Oval Office, and all the reporters are

00:37:59.540 there. And she panicked because she didn't want to be seen. So here's how she

00:38:05.720 responded. Let's put the picture up on the screen. Okay, so there's Gretchen

00:38:11.460 Whitmer hiding behind a binder that she's holding in front of her face so that she 0.58

00:38:17.280 isn't photographed. But of course, she was still photographed. It's just that now

00:38:21.700 the photos are of her using... Okay, I saw this photo, and I'm like, what does that

00:38:27.980 remind me of? I couldn't quite place it of her. No, that's my toddlers. Okay, that's

00:38:36.260 every kid I've had at the age of two playing hide-and-seek. That's how one of my

00:38:42.360 two-year-olds, one of the twins right now, if they're playing hide-and-seek, that's how

00:38:45.280 they do it. It's the classic move for toddlers. I was just playing hide-and-seek

00:38:52.160 with the twins yesterday. And one of them did exactly that. They just picked up a

00:38:58.940 thing and held it like this over their face. Because they think that if they

00:39:03.420 can't see you, then you can't see them. Which is very cute for a small child, but

00:39:11.380 I've never seen an adult try that before. I've never seen an adult attempt that move.

00:39:18.260 And I'm just... I'm fascinated by it. And I'm also fascinated that somebody could make it to this

00:39:29.840 level in politics and have zero political instincts at all. And this is not the first

00:39:36.120 incident to demonstrate Whitmer's total lack of political instincts. It's one of many, but this

00:39:41.140 maybe is the worst. This is maybe the most egregious. Because when you find yourself suddenly

00:39:46.340 in the middle of an event with reporters and you don't want to be seen, out of all the possible

00:39:50.720 ways to respond, trying to hide your face behind a stack of folders that you're just holding up like

00:39:56.960 this. Okay, playing like a game of peekaboo with the... That's the worst option on the whole menu

00:40:04.580 of options. It's so bad that if I were in that position, I wouldn't even... That wouldn't be on

00:40:09.260 my menu. I wouldn't think to do that. You would be better off just running out of the room.

00:40:15.100 You'd be better off faking a heart attack to change the subject. You'd be better off pulling

00:40:21.720 a Jamal Bowman and tripping the fire alarm. You would be better off pretending that you are your 0.85

00:40:30.540 own evil twin. You'd be better off just riding with it and then later saying, no, that wasn't

00:40:35.260 me. That was my evil twin. I have an evil twin you never heard about. And she's a Republican. 0.79

00:40:40.720 It's a whole thing. That would be better than putting a binder in front of your face in a photo

00:40:47.400 that will live in it. I mean, her political... It's one of those moments, her political ambitions

00:40:53.020 are done. She cannot be president. She cannot... That never should have been an option to begin 0.84

00:40:59.420 with. And I think it'd be very unlikely that she could even get nominated, much less win the

00:41:03.540 presidency. But now that's over. Yeah, she certainly had presidential ambitions. I think we all know that. 1.00

00:41:11.920 And that's done now. This is one of those... It's one of those rare moments you get where some...

00:41:16.260 Where a politician does something and we can all point to that moment and say, yeah, well, that's

00:41:21.180 done. You're finished. Your career's over. You're never going to advance BA. You're never going to

00:41:26.260 be president because of that moment. Because you held... Even though you've been a terrible governor

00:41:31.140 and have screwed up immeasurably in so many ways, you held a folder in front of your face to hide from

00:41:37.100 the press. And that is the thing. You cannot survive that. Just that... This is what we've learned.

00:41:44.080 As a politician, you could have many scandals. You could screw up in so many ways.

00:41:49.760 And you could survive that because people don't remember it or it's more complicated.

00:41:55.160 But when you do something that can be captured on camera like that, it's just an image.

00:41:59.380 Just that one image.

00:42:00.700 That destroys you, right? So her political ambitions are done forever because of that. 1.00

00:42:11.400 And it really just goes to show that we have a real crisis of midwittery in this country,

00:42:20.700 which is not really a word. But we have a crisis of midwits, especially in the leadership class.

00:42:26.560 And look, I'm happy that people like Gretchen Whitmer are morons. Don't get me wrong. I guess 1.00

00:42:33.080 I'd rather have evil dumb... Instead of evil geniuses. But in a way, I don't know. In a way, 1.00

00:42:40.240 there's a part of me that actually would prefer if we had evil geniuses screwing the country up.

00:42:46.820 Because it's less demoralizing to have your country destroyed by evil geniuses.

00:42:51.740 Because they're geniuses, right? I mean, you could always say, like, what are we going to do?

00:42:55.540 There's evil... They're evil and they're geniuses.

00:42:58.560 So they destroy the country. What can you do? 0.96

00:43:01.300 But instead, we're being run into the ground by evil morons. 1.00

00:43:06.020 People who have the strategic intelligence of toddlers. 1.00

00:43:08.700 Okay, those are the people driving us into the dirt.

00:43:14.280 The state of Michigan has been destroyed by, you know, Amelia Bedelia here, hiding behind a folder.

00:43:24.800 And there's... I don't know. There's something about that that I find

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00:45:21.160 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:45:25.880 This morning, I took a little trip down memory lane

00:45:31.580 and went back to a show that I posted about four months ago

00:45:34.020 in the wake of the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

00:45:38.660 And if you recall that show at all, then you remember the position that I took.

00:45:42.820 It was a bold position, a provocative one.

00:45:45.380 And my position was and still is that first-degree murder is wrong.

00:45:50.100 It is wrong to shoot a man in the back while he's walking down the street.

00:45:53.640 We should not applaud murder.

00:45:55.140 We should not defend it.

00:45:56.180 We should not take the side of people who defend murder or commit it.

00:45:59.440 And that means that just because you don't like a company where somebody works,

00:46:02.940 that doesn't make it morally permissible to walk up and execute anyone on the executive team of that company.

00:46:10.080 I personally don't like a lot of companies.

00:46:13.080 I don't really like most companies.

00:46:16.000 But I still think that you can't just kill the people who work there.

00:46:20.360 That was my stated position.

00:46:22.520 And I was absolutely, as you may recall, excoriated for it.

00:46:26.500 And you can go back, as I just did, and read the YouTube comments for that show.

00:46:30.320 You can scroll for pages and not find a single comment that agrees with me.

00:46:35.680 My opinion that it's not okay to commit first-degree murder is, judging by the comments,

00:46:41.260 maybe the most unpopular thing I've ever said in my career, which is really, really saying something, as you know.

00:46:51.120 You'll find hundreds of comments, often from self-professed conservatives,

00:46:54.320 not just disagreeing with my stance against first-degree homicide, but actually angry at me for taking that stance.

00:47:00.300 They declared that I'm out of touch, and I'm elitist, for thinking that we shouldn't just start murdering CEOs.

00:47:08.040 And that's not a straw man, by the way.

00:47:09.160 That's what the comments said.

00:47:10.000 You can go back and read them.

00:47:10.880 It's a huge number of them saying that.

00:47:13.340 Now, of course, I know that most of those comments weren't really from conservatives,

00:47:17.120 and most of them certainly weren't from my actual audience.

00:47:19.860 But I do think that there were at least some people on the right 0.99

00:47:22.820 who really did fall into the mass psychosis of defending and siding with a murderous scumbag. 0.98

00:47:29.180 And I imagine that most of those people are now embarrassed that they jumped on the pro-murder bandwagon 0.97

00:47:34.300 and would probably rather pretend that it never happened.

00:47:37.100 But I think we need to revisit this whole episode so that we can, you know,

00:47:40.920 figure out what sort of lessons we should learn from it.

00:47:43.180 And what brings all this back to mind is an interview that a CNN correspondent named Donnie O'Sullivan did

00:47:49.040 with the demented shrew named Taylor Lorenz.

00:47:51.840 Lorenz, who pretends to be a journalist, was one of Mangione's most unabashedly outspoken cheerleaders. 0.99

00:47:56.960 At the time, she fawned all over him, justified his murderous acts.

00:48:00.920 She even said, as you may remember, she said that she felt joy after hearing that Brian Thompson,

00:48:06.020 who's a father, by the way, and had never been convicted of any crimes, was murdered.

00:48:11.080 She felt joy about it.

00:48:12.940 And in this interview, which was just posted yesterday, she doubles down and goes even further.

00:48:16.640 And I want you to watch this clip.

00:48:17.660 And if you were one of these self-professed conservatives taking her side on this issue,

00:48:22.620 I want you to watch even closer and ask yourself if this is really the kind of ally that you want.

00:48:31.380 Here you go.

00:48:33.540 Hilarious to see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching their pearls about someone standing a murderer

00:48:40.860 when this is the United States of America, as if we don't lionize criminals,

00:48:46.060 as if we don't have, you know, we don't stan murderers of all sorts,

00:48:50.800 and we give them Netflix shows.

00:48:52.240 There's a huge disconnect between the narratives and angles that sort of mainstream media pushes

00:48:57.700 and what the American public feels.

00:48:59.960 And you see that in moments like this.

00:49:01.780 And I can tell you, I saw the biggest audience growth that I've ever seen.

00:49:06.340 Because people were like, oh, somebody, some journalist, is actually speaking to the anger that we feel.

00:49:12.720 The women who got her outside court in New York. 1.00

00:49:16.120 So you're going to see women, especially, that feel like, oh, my God, right? 0.99

00:49:19.500 Like, here's this man who's a revolutionary, who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart.

00:49:27.360 Or he's a person that seems like this morally good man, which is hard to find.

00:49:35.280 Yeah, I just realized women will literally date an assassin before they swipe right on me. 1.00

00:49:40.640 That's where we are.

00:49:43.080 So to review, Nurse Ratched here brags that she experienced the biggest audience growth she's ever seen

00:49:49.440 when she started fawning over Luigi Mangione.

00:49:52.320 Then she starts gushing over the murderer, describing him as famous, young, handsome, smart,

00:49:56.300 and most insanely, a morally good man.

00:50:00.060 The CNN correspondent, of course, listens to all this with a smile on his face, then starts giggling.

00:50:04.480 And the whole scene is comically evil.

00:50:06.640 I mean, Taylor Lorenz has always been a cartoon.

00:50:09.500 Now she's playing the role of a cartoon villain. 1.00

00:50:12.740 She's like Cruella de Vil, if Cruella de Vil was a frumpy hypochondriac. 1.00

00:50:17.120 And I must say, again, if you're a conservative who found yourself on the same side as this psychotic demon, 0.99

00:50:23.540 I mean, you really screwed up. 0.98

00:50:26.920 You should not be on Taylor Lorenz's side on any topic, 0.93

00:50:30.680 especially not when she's explicitly advocating for first-degree murder.

00:50:35.340 And since we're on the subject, and now that perhaps the initial hysteria that led so many people in Taylor Lorenz's camp,

00:50:41.260 led so many people to be in Taylor Lorenz's camp, has worn off a bit,

00:50:44.900 I thought it would be useful to go back and review the two major reasons why

00:50:50.100 we should never applaud a guy who walks up to another guy in the dark and shoots him in the back.

00:50:57.240 Okay, these are the two major reasons, beyond the number one fundamental reason,

00:51:02.160 which is that murder is a grave sin.

00:51:04.520 It breaks not only the laws of man, but also the laws of God.

00:51:07.220 It violates a code written in the Bible, in the Ten Commandments,

00:51:10.580 and written into the heart of every man.

00:51:12.920 Even if you never read the Ten Commandments, which rather clearly forbids this kind of activity,

00:51:18.160 you would still know that it's wrong to execute an unarmed man in the street.

00:51:22.260 That's natural law.

00:51:24.060 Okay, so that's all the reason you should need to know that this is not okay.

00:51:31.080 But there are two other points worth making.

00:51:33.580 And the first, as I try to explain it at the time,

00:51:36.840 it's that the major voices cheering on or excusing the murder of Brian Thompson

00:51:41.760 will not stop and have not stopped with Brian Thompson.

00:51:47.280 If you're a conservative, you should understand that the Taylor Lorenz's of the world

00:51:51.680 think that you deserve to be executed just as much as Brian Thompson does.

00:51:56.460 You are standing beside and finding common cause with a person who would feel just as joyful 0.99

00:52:04.820 if you were shot dead on the sidewalk.

00:52:08.000 And that fact should matter to you.

00:52:10.340 You are shouting amen to an argument that can be and will be and has been used

00:52:16.080 to justify violence against you and your loved ones.

00:52:19.740 What does Taylor Lorenz mean when she says that Luigi Mangione is a morally good man? 0.99

00:52:27.920 I mean, from my vantage point, he's a spoiled trust fund baby and murderous coward 0.96

00:52:33.040 who snuck up behind an unarmed man under the cover of darkness, 0.99

00:52:36.680 shot him in the back, and then tried to run away and escape accountability.

00:52:40.300 What part of that is morally good?

00:52:43.640 Well, when Taylor says it, she means simply that Mangione did something that,

00:52:48.460 in Taylor's mind, advanced her own political interests.

00:52:52.900 This is how it works for moral relativists.

00:52:55.420 Whatever advances their interests is morally good, by definition.

00:53:00.260 So if killing a father and husband in cold blood advances her interests,

00:53:03.320 then it's morally good.

00:53:05.160 Well, again, you should keep in mind that if you are a conservative,

00:53:09.360 then Taylor Lorenz also thinks that your death advances her interests. 0.95

00:53:15.020 Whoever shoots you in the head is also morally good.

00:53:19.460 And, you know, you might say that I'm biased here because making this personal for a moment,

00:53:24.900 I can say that approximately 100% of the leftists who cheered Thompson's murder

00:53:30.380 would also cheer, probably even louder, if I was murdered.

00:53:35.240 I mean, there are a lot of leftists out there waiting eagerly for the day when I drop dead.

00:53:38.860 I know that because they tell me all the time.

00:53:40.620 And why do they want me dead?

00:53:41.940 I mean, I'm not a healthcare CEO.

00:53:43.400 I've never denied anyone coverage.

00:53:44.840 I've never hurt anyone.

00:53:46.020 But they want me dead because I'm an outspoken conservative,

00:53:48.820 and they've determined that it would advance their interests if somebody got rid of me.

00:53:53.720 So am I going to find common cause with the people who are actively and vocally wishing for my demise?

00:54:00.000 Am I going to legitimize an argument that these people would directly use to justify my own murder?

00:54:08.600 No, I'm not going to do that.

00:54:10.220 I'm not going to do that because I'm not suicidally insane.

00:54:13.160 The second point, related very much to the first, is that as conservatives, one of the most basic things that we're trying to conserve and defend is civilization.

00:54:30.520 Leftism is an anti-civilizational force.

00:54:33.620 Leftism despises civilization and wants to destroy it.

00:54:38.080 We are supposed to be the ones defending and conserving civilization.

00:54:42.220 If we will not conserve civilization, then there's no point to anything.

00:54:48.560 There's no point to any of this if we will not, at the most basic level, conserve and defend civilization.

00:54:57.180 And one of the very first things you need, I mean, if you're forming a civilization from scratch, one of the very first things you need is law.

00:55:05.920 Okay, law.

00:55:06.860 That's the starting point for civilization.

00:55:10.540 And the most basic law of all laws is the law that forbids you from walking up to someone you don't like on the street and executing them.

00:55:18.460 So, I'm opposed to the murder of Brian Thompson because I am a fan of civilization.

00:55:24.360 I prefer civilization over the alternative, which is degradation, depravity, and chaos. 0.99

00:55:31.180 In a civilized society, men who shoot other men in the back are treated as cowardly, murdering scum, which is what they are. 0.99

00:55:38.780 We don't lionize them. 0.99

00:55:40.260 We don't justify their actions.

00:55:41.860 We certainly don't fawn over them like groupies.

00:55:43.980 That is if we want to be civilized people, which I do. 0.94

00:55:48.320 Because the other option is to be morally debased savages.

00:55:53.680 And that is really what our culture war comes down to.

00:55:57.000 It is civilization versus savagery.

00:56:02.160 Those are the choices.

00:56:04.900 Okay, we could call it right versus left.

00:56:08.280 No, it's civilization versus savagery.

00:56:11.600 I know which side I'm on.

00:56:15.740 It's really not a difficult choice.

00:56:18.560 And that is why Taylor Lorenz and everyone who took her side are all today canceled.

00:56:26.380 That'll do it for the show today.

00:56:27.100 Thanks for watching.

00:56:27.600 Thanks for listening.

00:56:28.580 Have a great day.

00:56:29.440 Talk to you tomorrow.

00:56:30.240 Godspeed.

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