The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 158 - The Left Takes Down Kevin Hart

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the outrage mob claims another trophy.

00:00:03.900 This time it's the head of comedian Kevin Hart.

00:00:06.540 Also, is Christmas pagan? 1.00

00:00:09.280 We will deal with that enduring and rather stupid myth. 0.99

00:00:12.800 And finally, why do parents feel the need to film themselves disciplining their kids? 0.99

00:00:17.660 This is a trend that I think needs to stop.

00:00:19.480 We'll talk about that today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:21.340 Kevin Hart, famous comedian, tapped this week to host the upcoming Oscars.

00:00:31.680 And then the requisite next step commenced where people went to dig up his old tweets and his old comedy bits to try and destroy him.

00:00:40.900 And I want to pause here just for a moment to try to just to reflect on on this.

00:00:46.140 Think about how petty and empty and miserable and wretched you have to be to to think in that way, where where someone is offered a high profile job opportunity and your first reaction is, oh, let's go through his old tweets to try to destroy him for no reason at all. 0.97

00:01:09.420 That is the thought process of a truly demented person. 0.96

00:01:14.000 But apparently there are many such people in our country today.

00:01:17.120 So the bullies went to work and they dug up some old tweets and a couple of lines from a stand up special eight or 10 years ago.

00:01:23.520 And they said the jokes were anti-gay, demanded that he apologize.

00:01:27.980 Initially, I was impressed because Hart refused to apologize.

00:01:31.120 He said, look, I've already apologized.

00:01:33.140 I'm not going to do it again.

00:01:34.040 I'm not going to keep doing this.

00:01:35.020 And and then he lost the job, was was forced to step down.

00:01:39.680 And unfortunately, as he stepped down, he apologized again, even though he'd already lost the job.

00:01:46.960 But I'm sure he apologized because at this point, Kevin Hart is a movie star and he's making movies all the time.

00:01:52.400 And so he's he's thinking about that.

00:01:56.500 And I guess he figured that if he doesn't apologize, he might start losing those opportunities as well.

00:02:00.840 Now, what were these terribly offensive anti-gay jokes?

00:02:06.480 Well, the outrage seems to focus primarily on a on a bit from his comedy special back in 2010,

00:02:12.560 where he said that he's not homophobic, but he doesn't want his son to be gay.

00:02:20.180 And then he talked about the fear that he experiences when he sees his son playing with with with, you know, feminine toys or acting in a feminine way.

00:02:29.060 So basically two ways of interpreting a bit like that.

00:02:33.640 The first way is we could say it's a joke.

00:02:36.360 He's a comedian.

00:02:37.800 He's telling a joke.

00:02:40.020 The whole point of the joke is that he's saying he's saying something that's not considered appropriate in modern society.

00:02:47.300 It's offensive to many people.

00:02:48.980 So or to some people anyway.

00:02:51.380 So and that's the joke.

00:02:52.920 That's the whole point of the joke.

00:02:54.440 It's a joke.

00:02:55.100 He's telling a joke.

00:02:56.140 He's a comedian telling a joke.

00:02:58.180 That's what comedians do.

00:03:00.560 That's one way of looking at it.

00:03:01.900 That I think is the correct way of interpreting it.

00:03:04.700 The other way to look at it.

00:03:07.280 If you are intent on taking it seriously and not as a joke, well, then, OK, in that case, he is a person, a parent, honestly sharing his own desires and preferences for his son.

00:03:23.320 He's honestly talking about what he personally wants for his child. 0.97

00:03:28.080 And I think even if you look at it that way, it's still incredibly stupid to be outraged because it's just his opinion. 0.96

00:03:38.320 Is he not entitled to his to have his own views about his about about parenting and his own priorities and preferences for his family? 0.98

00:03:47.940 Maybe he really wants his son to get married and have children.

00:03:51.280 So the family line is carried on.

00:03:53.740 It's a really normal thing for a father to want.

00:03:56.140 Is he not allowed to desire that?

00:03:58.380 Or maybe, you know, he's listened to the left claiming that gays are bullied and persecuted in our country and he doesn't want that for his child.

00:04:06.240 Whatever his reason, that's his opinion.

00:04:09.180 It's his view.

00:04:10.160 Now, what if he had said that one of his fears is that he doesn't want his son to date a white woman? 0.83

00:04:23.200 You know, as a black man, he doesn't want his son dating a white woman. 0.56

00:04:25.800 What if that was the joke that he had made? 0.92

00:04:28.140 Again, we would be able to look at it in two ways.

00:04:31.300 Number one, we could say it's just a joke.

00:04:33.380 He's telling a joke.

00:04:34.280 He's a comedian.

00:04:35.180 Or two, we could say he's being honest.

00:04:37.540 He's sharing how he feels, what he wants for his family.

00:04:42.640 And either way, there's no reason to take offense.

00:04:47.080 It would make no sense for me to be offended as a white person.

00:04:50.000 It would make no sense for me to say, how dare you have your own preferences and priorities in relation to your own son?

00:04:56.720 It's none of my business.

00:04:58.720 If that's what he wants for his son, then whatever.

00:05:01.220 But of course, I talk about outrage, and I use that word metaphorically, really, because there is rarely any real outrage in this country.

00:05:17.860 Outrage is now just perfunctory.

00:05:21.080 I mean, did anyone really care about Kevin Hart's stand-up bit from eight years ago?

00:05:25.620 Was anyone really upset about his tweets?

00:05:28.860 I doubt it.

00:05:30.500 No, no.

00:05:31.020 See, they're just pretending, because this is what people do now.

00:05:35.540 You know, I know at first blush, it seems like people are more sensitive now than they used to be.

00:05:41.000 And maybe they are.

00:05:42.340 Okay?

00:05:42.620 They probably are in a lot of ways.

00:05:44.660 But I don't think that's why the outrage, these explosions of outrage, I don't think that's why it's so common.

00:05:54.200 I think it's just a matter of efficiency.

00:05:57.500 Public outrage used to be kind of on manual.

00:06:01.180 It used to be stick shift.

00:06:03.360 You had to manually change gears in order to get the outrage going.

00:06:08.000 But now it's automatic.

00:06:09.220 We shift into outrage mode automatically.

00:06:12.160 We shift into outrage gear automatically.

00:06:16.060 In other words, I don't think there are necessarily more people offended by jokes now than there were, say, 20 years ago.

00:06:23.860 I think it's just that because of the internet, the outrage crew is more efficient.

00:06:29.740 They can cover more ground.

00:06:31.460 They can get outraged quicker and about more things.

00:06:37.880 That's really what that is.

00:06:39.240 That's really what it is with the internet.

00:06:40.500 I think you have basically the same number of petty, busybodies who are looking to be offended by jokes, the same number of them.

00:06:51.460 But now they have this, because of the technology and the internet, they have this avenue that allows them to get to, it allows them, number one, to find a bunch of things to be outraged about.

00:07:04.700 And then it allows them to very quickly voice that outrage in a way that doesn't take a lot of effort.

00:07:12.020 You can just send out a tweet, say, oh, I'm outraged by Kevin Hart, and that's it.

00:07:15.520 And then, boom, if enough people do that, you've got an outrage mob.

00:07:20.120 And that is why, as I have said a hundred times, and I'll say a hundred more times, that's why you should never apologize to them.

00:07:29.940 You should never apologize to the outrage mob.

00:07:33.600 Never apologize.

00:07:34.900 No matter what you said, no matter what provoked them, whether you were wrong or right, never apologize to them.

00:07:45.060 Because it's just a game, it's disingenuous, they're not even really upset, and even if they really are upset, you don't owe them anything.

00:07:53.880 You didn't hurt them.

00:07:55.520 These are just people disconnected from it.

00:07:58.600 How is anyone really hurt?

00:08:03.680 How is your life actually affected by a joke that Kevin Hart told eight years ago?

00:08:10.040 And then, in what way is anything made better?

00:08:13.380 Or in what way do you benefit from him being forced to apologize?

00:08:17.920 You were never hurt to begin with.

00:08:19.600 The apology does nothing for you, so there's no reason to engage in it.

00:08:23.560 And I really wish that Hart hadn't apologized.

00:08:27.820 But more than that, I wish we did not have this crew of empty, bored bullies looking to destroy people for no reason.

00:08:38.820 There's an email that someone sent that I thought was interesting.

00:08:42.100 Raises a point that you hear a lot at this time of year, so I wanted to read it and try to respond to it.

00:08:50.580 Email says,

00:08:51.160 Hi, Matt.

00:08:51.600 I love your podcast.

00:08:52.440 Listen to it every day.

00:08:53.120 I think you have really great insight to many subjects, especially religion.

00:08:57.660 I guess I didn't really need to read this part of the email to you, but I am anyway.

00:09:01.620 This holiday season, I've been hearing a lot that Christmas is actually a pagan holiday.

00:09:07.440 I am a practicing Christian that grew up in the Catholic Church, and in my family, we have always celebrated Christmas as the birth of our Savior, Jesus Christ.

00:09:15.100 I've done some research, and I realized that there are some Christmas traditions that have a root in the pagan holiday of celebrating the winter solstice.

00:09:21.740 But that does not change in my heart what Christmas means to me.

00:09:26.080 I am thinking that maybe Christmas is a mixture of many different traditions with, of course, a heavy dose of commercialism.

00:09:31.620 I would love to hear your take on this and how to discuss this subject with others that insist that Christmas is a pagan holiday that has nothing to do with Jesus.

00:09:38.960 Thanks for your consideration.

00:09:39.720 Yes, this is indeed an enduring meme, and you hear it from atheists and Christians alike, mainly from atheists, but there are some Christians who don't celebrate Christmas because of its alleged pagan origins. 0.94

00:09:53.700 And the whole thing is completely silly, in my opinion.

00:09:56.200 The first thing we can say here about whether or not this or that Christmas tradition has, quote, pagan origins, the first thing we can say is, it doesn't matter. 0.73

00:10:10.000 Who cares?

00:10:12.400 Yes, it's probably true that pagans used Christmas trees in religious rituals before they were Christmas trees.

00:10:20.640 So what?

00:10:23.420 Why does that matter?

00:10:25.160 What does that prove exactly?

00:10:27.380 It's not like we're taking part in the pagan ritual itself.

00:10:31.120 The Christian Christmas tree supplanted, replaced, took over, overrode the pagan tradition. 0.64

00:10:41.320 By the way, pagans also worshipped in temples.

00:10:44.620 Does that mean that we shouldn't go to church?

00:10:46.780 Pagans had great big feasts to celebrate their gods.

00:10:49.820 Does that mean that we should get rid of Thanksgiving, too?

00:10:52.860 Pagans were the first to do a lot of things because the vast majority of people in ancient times were pagan.

00:11:00.920 Before Christianity came along, you had Judaism, and then you had pagans. 0.91

00:11:05.360 You had this small tribe of Jews, and then everybody else in the world was pagan. 0.91

00:11:10.520 So, as Christianity spread, it did absorb some of the culture of these pagan civilizations,

00:11:19.460 but their culture, not their religion, not their dogma, their culture.

00:11:25.060 So what?

00:11:26.040 Why does that matter?

00:11:28.080 What does that prove?

00:11:29.840 And this is also what makes it really difficult to say which tradition or which element has pagan origins

00:11:35.420 because cultures mingle and interact and change and evolve.

00:11:39.640 And with any one tradition, it's often impossible to say where exactly it started.

00:11:44.420 The Christmas celebration in modern America is a mix of many things, like the emailer mentioned.

00:11:52.180 There's commercialization.

00:11:54.020 There's a lot of that.

00:11:55.660 There's old Christian tradition as well,

00:11:58.260 some of which may have began as pagan traditions or maybe not.

00:12:01.780 And then, hopefully not overshadowed by all of this,

00:12:05.040 you have the actual religious significance of the event.

00:12:07.800 So, were pagans the first ones to use evergreens for religious purposes?

00:12:13.940 Probably.

00:12:15.040 Doesn't matter.

00:12:17.280 Were the pagans the first to have a religious feast in late December?

00:12:21.880 Yeah.

00:12:22.700 Doesn't matter.

00:12:23.820 Did the whole flying reindeer and fat guy coming down the chimney thing come from pagans?

00:12:28.160 No, those evolved in more modern times.

00:12:30.120 But, it doesn't matter.

00:12:32.100 Traditions and customs are like this.

00:12:34.300 They change.

00:12:35.060 They evolve.

00:12:36.000 They take on different flavors, different meanings over time.

00:12:39.120 That's just what it means to live in a human society.

00:12:42.400 And, pretty much any human tradition you can think of has been influenced and has changed

00:12:48.760 and has origins in many different areas of the world.

00:12:52.880 So, what?

00:12:54.160 But, what matters is the theology of Christmas.

00:12:58.980 God incarnate, born of a virgin, that's the part that matters. 0.68

00:13:05.280 And, yeah, if you could prove that came from pagans, then we'd have a serious problem on our hands.

00:13:11.300 But, you can prove no such thing.

00:13:14.380 Because, the pagan theological parallels are way, way, way overstated by atheists.

00:13:20.860 And, usually they are overstated by people who have not the slightest clue about ancient history or about pagan mythology.

00:13:27.960 So, for instance, you will hear it claimed that Jesus is modeled on Mithra, on the pagan god Mithra,

00:13:38.160 because, among other things, Mithra had a virgin birth.

00:13:41.380 Well, there are a few problems here.

00:13:43.600 Mithra was born from a rock.

00:13:46.500 Now, perhaps it was a virgin rock, but still, I think we would agree that's a very different kind of thing.

00:13:52.820 Also, the cult of Mithra took form kind of around the same time as Christianity,

00:14:00.760 and it grew parallel to Christianity.

00:14:05.980 So, it seems that Mithraism borrowed from Christianity, not the other way around.

00:14:11.780 Another pagan parallel you hear a lot about is, and this isn't a Christmas thing,

00:14:17.940 this is one you hear around Easter,

00:14:20.580 Adonis, a pagan deity who was allegedly a dying and rising god.

00:14:26.080 Except, there are actually no texts saying that Adonis rose from the dead.

00:14:31.460 That's a misnomer.

00:14:33.880 It's said that the Egyptian god Horus, this is a big one you'll hear a lot about.

00:14:38.800 You've probably seen that the Egyptian god Horus had a miraculous birth like Jesus.

00:14:45.000 Yes, but the miracle there was that his mom resurrected his dad, 0.85

00:14:51.200 gave his dad a golden penis after his original member had been cut off and eaten by a fish, 0.94

00:14:58.880 and then they conceived Horus. 0.98

00:15:01.080 It's hard for me to see much of a theological connection between that and what Christians believe.

00:15:11.560 You'll hear about the Greek god Erechtheus.

00:15:15.820 You'll hear that he had a virgin birth.

00:15:18.320 Well, not really.

00:15:19.740 He sprang from the ground spontaneously when some divine seed spilled on the ground

00:15:25.500 after a thwarted rape attempt in heaven.

00:15:27.660 Again, not very similar at all to what Christians believe.

00:15:33.720 And I could go on and on.

00:15:34.560 The point is, when somebody mentions these alleged Jesus-pagan parallels,

00:15:39.860 all you have to do is actually read the stories

00:15:43.260 behind the mythical gods they bring up.

00:15:48.480 Don't take their word for it.

00:15:50.020 Go and read it for yourself.

00:15:51.740 And in every case I've ever seen, the parallel breaks down very quickly on further investigation.

00:15:58.920 All you have to do is just go read for like a minute, and you'll see,

00:16:01.780 oh, this isn't the same thing at all.

00:16:03.780 Not only that, but you also have to ask, when did this pagan myth originate?

00:16:09.520 And what sources do we have for it?

00:16:12.160 Notice that the people who make this argument,

00:16:13.860 they rarely, if ever, will give you an actual source for where they're getting this from.

00:16:21.780 A source as in not, you know, saying I got it from this website, that's not a source.

00:16:25.540 I mean, where did this information originate from?

00:16:29.820 This myth was written down at some point,

00:16:32.620 and what is the earliest text we have for this myth?

00:16:37.400 And for many of these myths, what you're going to find is that the earliest source we have

00:16:42.300 is from like eight or nine or ten centuries after Christ.

00:16:47.560 Meaning, again, if there was any influence at all, one way or another,

00:16:51.380 it was from Christianity to paganism, not the other way around.

00:16:58.220 So the story behind Christmas is not pagan.

00:17:01.040 And the traditions attached originate from many places,

00:17:05.180 and no matter where they came from, they're now Christian, so it doesn't matter.

00:17:10.040 As I said, though, there are some Christians who either don't celebrate Christmas at all

00:17:16.600 or who don't do the tree and all that because of the supposed pagan roots.

00:17:23.120 Now, I had always thought that that was really a Jehovah's Witness thing,

00:17:27.400 but it seems to be a bit more widespread than that.

00:17:30.240 I don't know how widespread.

00:17:31.800 I'm not really sure how common it is,

00:17:33.620 but there seem to be a certain sizable number of Christians

00:17:40.680 who feel this way about Christmas.

00:17:42.900 Somebody on Twitter yesterday, I was talking about this,

00:17:45.100 and someone said, someone likened the Christmas tree to the golden calf.

00:17:50.060 Well, there's only one problem here.

00:17:52.540 Nobody worships a Christmas tree.

00:17:55.800 We don't put the tree in our home to worship it.

00:17:58.640 We are not tempted to worship it.

00:18:01.220 We have no urge in that direction.

00:18:02.780 Although, look, if it's a stumbling block for you,

00:18:05.840 if you have this intense urge to worship trees,

00:18:09.340 then by all means, stay away from this particular holiday tradition.

00:18:13.580 But most of us have no such urge.

00:18:15.960 It's just a tree.

00:18:17.080 It looks nice.

00:18:17.640 We put lights on it.

00:18:18.420 We put decorations, and it looks nice.

00:18:20.780 It smells nice.

00:18:21.800 That's all.

00:18:22.480 That's all we do with it.

00:18:23.400 I have never in my life ever heard of a Christian worshiping a tree 0.83

00:18:29.940 or being tempted to worship a tree

00:18:32.740 or getting anywhere close to worshiping a tree.

00:18:35.300 I have never heard of that.

00:18:36.940 It's a non-issue.

00:18:39.980 By the way, pagans worshipped everything, okay?

00:18:44.780 They made gods out of everything.

00:18:47.660 They had hundreds of gods, thousands really.

00:18:50.320 They had gods for every object, every situation, everything in nature,

00:18:55.420 every emotion, everything.

00:18:57.420 They made idols out of trees, out of rocks, out of rivers.

00:19:01.340 They made gods out of animals.

00:19:02.740 They made gods out of the sun, the moon, the clouds,

00:19:05.120 on and on and on and on and on.

00:19:08.300 So if you, I mean, pretty much any object you can think of

00:19:16.800 that existed back then was probably used in some way in a pagan ritual

00:19:25.700 or it was infused with some sort of divine significance

00:19:31.360 because that's just how pagans operated.

00:19:33.080 So if you have really set out to avoid anything that pagans worshipped,

00:19:40.400 you've really, really limited yourself.

00:19:43.880 I hope you never sunbathe, okay?

00:19:46.200 Because worshipping the sun was a big thing for pagans.

00:19:49.220 I hope you never visit a zoo.

00:19:52.260 I hope you don't have any trees or rocks on your property

00:19:54.780 because all of them are idols or they were idols to pagans 3,000 years ago.

00:20:04.740 Also, I hope you never celebrate your birthday,

00:20:07.140 which apparently this too is a thing among some Christians.

00:20:10.940 I think it's a little bit less common,

00:20:12.100 but arguably birthdays originated with pagans.

00:20:16.820 To celebrate a birthday was not, that's something pagans did.

00:20:24.480 Does that mean you're going to stop celebrating your birthday?

00:20:27.340 Maybe you will.

00:20:28.960 Or maybe you'll just continue celebrating your birthday

00:20:30.900 because it doesn't matter what pagans did.

00:20:33.560 What is this thing like if pagans did it 3,000 years ago,

00:20:36.580 they've claimed it for all time and now we can't do it? 0.97

00:20:40.180 What an absolutely silly idea. 0.95

00:20:44.060 And not only that, but it's completely superstitious. 0.98

00:20:49.640 What you're saying is that a certain object or tradition

00:20:54.840 carries with it some kind of curse or something

00:20:57.600 because pagans did it once.

00:21:00.300 But that's not the case.

00:21:03.200 Remember, St. Paul was asked whether it's okay to eat meat

00:21:07.240 that was sacrificed to idols,

00:21:08.820 and he said, yes, go ahead and eat it

00:21:11.440 because those gods aren't real.

00:21:14.060 It doesn't matter what magic spells were cast on them.

00:21:17.400 It's just meat.

00:21:19.020 So eat it.

00:21:19.620 It's just a meal.

00:21:20.400 Who cares?

00:21:22.600 So whatever way you look at it,

00:21:25.440 what I would say to the person who sent the email is

00:21:28.500 go ahead and celebrate Christmas

00:21:30.100 and get your Christmas tree,

00:21:31.860 and I wouldn't worry about it.

00:21:34.840 All right.

00:21:35.140 Something else I...

00:21:40.100 Although, listen,

00:21:41.240 if you decide you don't want to do a Christmas tree

00:21:43.140 just because Christmas trees are a huge, enormous hassle,

00:21:46.320 and then you've got this hunk of dying wood in your home

00:21:49.580 right next to your baseboard heaters or whatever,

00:21:53.580 if that's why you decide not to do a Christmas tree,

00:21:55.380 then I totally understand.

00:21:57.420 All right.

00:21:57.720 One other thing I wanted to mention quickly,

00:21:59.280 a 10-year-old girl got kicked off the school bus

00:22:03.900 for bullying,

00:22:05.740 so her dad made her walk to school

00:22:08.180 five miles in 36-degree temperatures.

00:22:11.560 Now, the only reason we know about this

00:22:14.900 is that the dad filmed it,

00:22:17.980 drove behind the daughter filming her,

00:22:19.800 and then posted it on social media.

00:22:22.020 And it went viral,

00:22:23.900 and so that's how everyone knows about it.

00:22:27.260 Now, as for the punishment itself,

00:22:31.700 walking to school,

00:22:32.440 I have no problem with that.

00:22:34.880 Arguably, five miles in freezing temperatures

00:22:37.120 is a bit on the extreme side,

00:22:39.000 but we don't know what the girl did.

00:22:41.240 We don't know the full backstory,

00:22:42.600 so I have no qualms with that.

00:22:45.860 Disciplining your child is good. 0.88

00:22:48.480 Parents should do that more often.

00:22:50.360 However, why film it?

00:22:53.600 Why do you need to film it

00:22:55.420 and post it on Facebook?

00:22:57.820 A lot of parents do that these days,

00:23:00.240 and I just don't get it.

00:23:02.620 I discipline my children all the time,

00:23:04.840 and I have never once even considered

00:23:07.340 pulling out my phone to get it on video.

00:23:11.800 It's never crossed my mind.

00:23:14.700 Like, if I have to send my son into timeout

00:23:16.980 for talking back to his mother,

00:23:18.420 I've never said,

00:23:19.040 oh, wait a second,

00:23:19.660 I've got to get this on video.

00:23:21.080 Hey, guys, look.

00:23:22.240 Hey, guys, just live streaming.

00:23:23.780 Got my son in timeout.

00:23:24.960 Yep, he talked back to his mother.

00:23:26.560 Just wanted to let you guys all know.

00:23:28.860 It has never occurred to me to do that.

00:23:30.780 Why?

00:23:31.380 Why?

00:23:31.960 Why would it occur to me?

00:23:34.520 Now, I suppose if we're trying to be very generous

00:23:38.200 to the parents who do this,

00:23:40.300 we could say that,

00:23:41.520 oh, well, they're just trying to raise awareness

00:23:43.460 or something.

00:23:46.480 But first of all,

00:23:48.580 be very suspicious,

00:23:49.580 because raising awareness

00:23:50.920 is almost always code for

00:23:53.720 I'm just trying to get attention to myself.

00:23:56.600 Raising awareness is almost,

00:23:58.020 is usually I'm trying to raise awareness

00:24:00.040 about myself

00:24:01.160 and about my own virtue and everything.

00:24:04.600 Because in general,

00:24:06.040 like, in general,

00:24:07.380 most of the things that we raise awareness about,

00:24:09.960 people are already aware of those things.

00:24:12.080 We don't, it's,

00:24:13.300 we're all pretty aware of most of this stuff.

00:24:17.360 So if this dad says,

00:24:18.600 well, I'm raising awareness about bullying.

00:24:20.360 Yeah, we know.

00:24:21.220 We're aware of bullying.

00:24:22.460 We really are.

00:24:23.020 We know that bullying exists.

00:24:24.220 We know it's a problem.

00:24:25.080 We're all on the same page.

00:24:26.920 So there is really nothing good

00:24:28.660 that can come of that.

00:24:29.660 There is not one single person

00:24:31.260 who will see that video and say,

00:24:32.780 oh, wow, you know what?

00:24:34.120 I think bullying is a problem.

00:24:35.740 You know,

00:24:36.040 now that he's raised,

00:24:37.340 he has just raised my awareness of bullying.

00:24:39.140 And now, yeah, I,

00:24:40.720 okay, I see it now.

00:24:41.780 I see it.

00:24:42.120 I didn't see it before.

00:24:42.720 I see it now.

00:24:44.040 No, but not a single person on earth

00:24:45.660 is going to say that

00:24:46.260 because we are all completely aware.

00:24:48.600 But even if,

00:24:49.860 even if it is about raising awareness

00:24:51.720 of something for some reason, 1.00

00:24:53.100 it's still stupid and harmful 1.00

00:24:54.620 to do to your child. 1.00

00:24:56.520 But I don't believe that anyway.

00:24:58.260 Sorry.

00:24:59.180 We are all plenty aware

00:25:00.720 of parents punishing their kids.

00:25:03.040 We're aware of discipline.

00:25:04.080 We're aware of bullying.

00:25:05.620 We're aware of the concept.

00:25:08.500 No, I think you put it online

00:25:10.300 because you want people

00:25:11.600 to congratulate you

00:25:12.860 on your wonderful parenting skills.

00:25:15.900 And in the process,

00:25:17.160 you are publicly humiliating your child.

00:25:19.640 You are using them

00:25:20.800 for self-serving purposes.

00:25:22.180 You are using them

00:25:23.080 for Facebook likes.

00:25:26.380 And the internet is forever, remember.

00:25:28.580 So when you shame your child online,

00:25:31.640 that will be accessible forever.

00:25:33.440 You can never take it down.

00:25:35.520 30 years from now,

00:25:36.940 it will still be a Google search away

00:25:39.160 so that your child

00:25:40.900 can be embarrassed about this forever.

00:25:43.980 Does that seem fair?

00:25:45.340 Is that good parenting?

00:25:47.640 Now, I think a certain amount

00:25:49.180 of embarrassment

00:25:49.800 can be appropriate in a punishment.

00:25:53.040 I'm not saying that

00:25:54.300 it's always wrong

00:25:56.920 for us to punish our children

00:25:59.900 in a way that might embarrass them.

00:26:01.420 There are times

00:26:01.960 when that's necessary.

00:26:02.700 And making your child

00:26:04.220 walk to school,

00:26:05.480 even if you don't put it online,

00:26:07.320 just making her walk

00:26:08.540 those five miles,

00:26:09.480 she's not going to be on the bus.

00:26:11.100 Her friends will know about it.

00:26:13.000 Yeah, that's embarrassing.

00:26:14.440 You don't need to put it online.

00:26:15.760 You've already,

00:26:16.500 there's already an element

00:26:17.780 of kind of,

00:26:19.240 of a very localized

00:26:21.060 public shaming

00:26:22.840 involved in it,

00:26:24.020 which I think is,

00:26:25.640 there's not anything

00:26:26.500 necessarily wrong with that.

00:26:27.820 But when you,

00:26:29.280 when you take it online

00:26:30.600 and you shame your child

00:26:32.520 on the internet,

00:26:33.540 in front of the entire world,

00:26:36.420 not just her community,

00:26:38.080 not just,

00:26:38.980 you know,

00:26:39.280 whoever she bullied,

00:26:41.260 that's,

00:26:43.100 that's,

00:26:43.520 that's one thing.

00:26:44.340 I mean,

00:26:44.600 those,

00:26:45.080 those,

00:26:45.440 all the people affected

00:26:46.680 by whatever she did,

00:26:48.240 they're all very local to her.

00:26:50.260 They're in her school,

00:26:51.080 in her community.

00:26:52.760 Why does the whole world

00:26:55.100 need to see

00:26:56.680 that your,

00:26:57.520 that your 10-year-old daughter

00:26:59.460 bullied someone?

00:27:00.640 Why do millions of humans

00:27:02.480 need to know about that?

00:27:04.900 And then you're also,

00:27:06.220 you're opening your child up

00:27:07.900 to internet comments.

00:27:09.720 You know,

00:27:10.340 you're,

00:27:10.900 you're opening her up

00:27:11.880 to whatever vile

00:27:13.560 and hateful thing.

00:27:14.580 Anytime you,

00:27:15.560 put something online

00:27:18.680 like that,

00:27:19.800 especially in a negative way

00:27:21.920 about,

00:27:22.280 oh,

00:27:22.480 guess what this person did

00:27:23.820 that's bad.

00:27:24.280 Even if it's your own kid,

00:27:25.780 you have opened them up to,

00:27:27.440 you've opened them up

00:27:28.600 to bullying,

00:27:29.920 to the,

00:27:30.180 to,

00:27:30.320 to the bullying

00:27:31.380 of hundreds of strangers

00:27:33.800 who will say vile

00:27:34.860 and nasty things about them.

00:27:37.140 So,

00:27:37.700 in order to teach them

00:27:38.400 a lesson about bullying,

00:27:39.560 you just put them out there

00:27:40.640 to be bullied

00:27:41.360 by hundreds of strangers,

00:27:43.180 many of whom

00:27:44.220 are probably adults.

00:27:46.560 That's how you teach them

00:27:47.660 not to bully?

00:27:48.960 And then on top of that,

00:27:49.880 you're collecting likes

00:27:50.840 and you're collecting shares

00:27:52.020 and you're getting more exposure

00:27:54.140 for yourself

00:27:54.940 for some reason.

00:27:56.280 And that just seems

00:27:57.380 clearly wrong to me,

00:27:58.540 clearly inappropriate.

00:28:00.620 Not everything

00:28:01.680 has to be online.

00:28:04.840 Not everything

00:28:05.820 has to be a matter

00:28:06.740 for public consumption.

00:28:07.840 It is possible

00:28:10.060 to just deal

00:28:11.540 with this problem

00:28:12.440 with your family

00:28:13.140 and your child

00:28:13.880 and do it privately

00:28:15.500 or do it

00:28:16.200 within the context

00:28:17.380 of your community.

00:28:19.640 And as I said,

00:28:20.360 within the context

00:28:21.360 of the people

00:28:22.320 who are actually

00:28:23.160 affected by whatever

00:28:24.260 she did.

00:28:25.740 Nothing good,

00:28:26.900 not a single

00:28:27.960 good thing

00:28:28.740 can come.

00:28:29.980 And this is just

00:28:30.560 in general.

00:28:31.220 Putting your kids online,

00:28:32.840 nothing good comes

00:28:33.460 of that in general.

00:28:35.020 But to do it

00:28:35.500 in that context,

00:28:36.820 to try to embarrass them,

00:28:39.540 I just think it's,

00:28:40.840 it becomes,

00:28:42.000 it's not much

00:28:42.940 of a mystery,

00:28:43.520 I guess.

00:28:43.860 Like,

00:28:44.040 where did this daughter 0.94

00:28:45.120 learn to bully?

00:28:46.040 Well,

00:28:46.240 I guess we just

00:28:46.880 figured out

00:28:47.560 where she learned it from.

00:28:49.340 And I think

00:28:50.600 if that's your

00:28:52.600 thought process

00:28:53.300 as a parent,

00:28:54.820 where your child

00:28:56.340 gets in trouble

00:28:56.860 for something

00:28:57.360 and then you think,

00:28:58.380 oh,

00:28:58.520 this could go viral

00:28:59.340 if I put it online,

00:29:00.660 if that's your

00:29:01.240 thought process,

00:29:02.040 that's a problem.

00:29:04.200 And I think

00:29:05.020 that's disturbing.

00:29:07.180 And that's something

00:29:07.940 you need to

00:29:09.120 seek counseling

00:29:11.660 about or something.

00:29:12.380 I mean,

00:29:12.500 that's something

00:29:12.840 you need to,

00:29:14.320 that's something

00:29:14.960 in your own heart

00:29:15.580 that you need

00:29:15.980 to really work on.

00:29:17.880 But don't work

00:29:18.660 on it publicly

00:29:19.260 in front of everybody.

00:29:20.560 Right.

00:29:22.440 All right.

00:29:24.340 I guess we'll

00:29:25.020 leave it there.

00:29:26.460 Hope you guys

00:29:27.060 have a great weekend

00:29:27.740 and we'll talk

00:29:28.340 to you next week.

00:29:28.900 Godspeed.

00:29:34.200 Coming up

00:29:36.660 on the Ben Shapiro Show,

00:29:37.800 Kevin Hart

00:29:38.280 loses his Oscar gig

00:29:39.680 for some old tweets.

00:29:40.800 Democrats fulminate

00:29:41.680 over voter fraud

00:29:42.500 in North Carolina.

00:29:43.780 And did President Trump

00:29:44.620 hire an illegal immigrant?

00:29:45.800 The New York Times

00:29:46.400 tries to nail him on it.

00:29:47.960 We'll talk all about

00:29:48.540 these things and more

00:29:49.220 on the Ben Shapiro Show.

00:29:50.040 on the Ben Shapiro Show.

The Matt Walsh Show - December 07, 2018

Ep. 158 - The Left Takes Down Kevin Hart

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