The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1584 - Another Dumb “Racism” Scandal Takes Over The NFL

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the media have found their new racial martyr and victim of 0.93

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00:01:56.500 AmericanFinancing.net slash Walsh. Collective cries of anguish echoed through the heavens this past

00:02:03.640 weekend. You may have heard the sound. It was the sound of trauma, of heartbreak, of great moral

00:02:09.240 outrage. It was the sound of the left-wing hacks in sports media reacting to Shador Sanders, the son of

00:02:15.500 former NFL star, Deion Sanders, being drafted into the NFL a little bit later than most people

00:02:20.560 expected. Now, for some background and context, Shador Sanders is a quarterback who played for

00:02:25.300 Colorado where his dad, Deion Sanders, is the head coach. And for months, most analysts projected that

00:02:30.860 he would be selected in the first round of the NFL draft, which began on Thursday and ran for three

00:02:35.380 days and seven total rounds, as it always does, ended on Saturday. But the prognosticators in sports

00:02:41.280 media are about as credible and have about as good a track record as the political prognosticators in

00:02:46.660 the news media, which is to say they're full of crap most of the time. So Shador was not drafted

00:02:51.520 in the first or even second round. Instead, he didn't come off the board until the fifth round when

00:02:55.900 he was drafted by the Cleveland Browns, who selected a different quarterback, some other players, a water

00:03:01.820 boy, a cheerleader, a janitor, before they finally got around to drafting Shador. Now, why does any of this

00:03:08.460 matter? Well, it doesn't matter. But to the commentators in sports media, it was a national

00:03:13.600 tragedy. Shador's brief draft slide was ESPN's 9-11. This was the NFL Network's Pearl Harbor.

00:03:23.460 They'll never forget where they were when it happened. They were shell-shocked. They were

00:03:27.680 dumbfounded, grief-stricken. Now, here are just two very short clips, and there are dozens I can play,

00:03:33.640 but two very short clips that give you a pretty good idea of how they were covering this news. Watch.

00:03:40.740 Frankly, don't get it. I've never seen anything like it, and there's really not much of an

00:03:46.360 explanation for it. I'm at the portion of dad stage now, because reasons are going to come out

00:03:51.480 later, but for me, very quickly, as we get ready for Ian, I'm thinking hugging this young man right

00:03:57.300 now. I don't care how he's holding up. This is a very, very tough time for him. Ian, I would echo

00:04:03.000 that. First of all, you guys mentioned the various people texting. I woke up to a text from my mom

00:04:07.760 wondering why Shador Sanders has not gone. I mean, that's kind of where it's reached right now.

00:04:12.960 I mean, it's everyone who casually follows football just wondering why the biggest name

00:04:18.600 in the NFL draft has not gone. You guys mentioned wanting to hug him. Charles did. I've gotten a lot

00:04:25.620 of those texts from different draft rooms in the NFL. It feels so bad for him. Poor kid. But those

00:04:31.340 teams are also not taking it. For Deion Sanders and Shador Sanders, all I can say is I think it's

00:04:37.200 disgusting. I don't understand what the heck's going on with this. It's disgusting. I don't get

00:04:42.440 it. I've never seen anything like it. It's never happened before. I just want to reach out and give

00:04:47.560 him a hug. Such a tough time for him. Now, to be clear, they are not talking about somebody who,

00:04:54.540 I don't know, survived a school shooting. They're talking about an already wealthy and famous athlete

00:04:59.480 who had to wait a day longer than expected to be drafted into the NFL and get paid millions of more

00:05:05.300 dollars to continue playing football. It's like weeping in the street because a trust fund baby

00:05:11.380 got the wrong color Ferrari for her sweet 16. I mean, most of the human population would kill 1.00

00:05:17.340 just for the chance to experience this kind of disappointment. But the sports media treated

00:05:24.060 Shador like a Holocaust survivor because of it. And all of this would just be kind of funny and 0.95

00:05:28.940 embarrassing, but not really worth discussing. After all, sports media embarrasses itself in some form

00:05:34.080 pretty much every day. They embarrass themselves even more often than the news media does, if you

00:05:38.180 can believe it. But what makes this whole spectacle something worse and perhaps more notable is

00:05:42.940 the reason why the sports media were so outraged. And even if you know nothing about this story

00:05:49.920 and you don't even know who this guy is, you already have guessed where this is going. From 10 seconds

00:05:57.100 into the first clip, you already knew what they were going to say next, didn't you? Because they

00:06:03.340 very predictably made this about race. It was decided that Shador Sanders fell in the draft

00:06:10.080 because he's black. Now, as an article in The Root put it in the quote, Shador Sanders not getting

00:06:18.620 drafted in the first, second, or third rounds of the NFL draft is like when that white cashier scrunches 0.99

00:06:25.520 up her face and drops change in your hand instead of running the risk of touching you.

00:06:30.260 Was she a racist Karen? Or is that how she treats all customers? It's a racism Rorschach test. 1.00

00:06:37.820 Now, never mind the question of how else a cashier is supposed to transfer change from her hand into 0.54

00:06:42.780 yours. What do you want her to do? Stroke your arm gently as she sensuously places one coin at a time

00:06:50.040 into your palm? I mean, personally, I prefer that you just drop the change into my hand so we can both

00:06:54.060 move on with our lives. But that's how I interpret the racism Rorschach test. On the other hand, for the

00:06:59.800 race hustlers, when it comes to the racism Rorschach test, the answer is always yes, it's racist. And

00:07:06.840 that's why lots of commentators in sports media, of course, jumped in to make it about race very

00:07:12.360 explicitly. Here's another brief highlight reel. Watch.

00:07:15.840 We all know that it's not just about him being Deion Sanders' son. It's about the bravado he

00:07:22.880 carries. It's about the fact that he looks a certain way. It is about the fact that the color

00:07:27.660 of his skin sometimes at that position can be questioned. Why didn't Shador get drafted in the

00:07:33.660 first round? I got three reasons for y'all. I spent a lot of time. I was up to 1 a.m. last night really

00:07:38.540 mewling over this decision. Why didn't Shador get drafted in the first round? Number one, he didn't

00:07:42.660 code switch. What do I mean he didn't code switch? Shador Sanders did not change his identity or how

00:07:48.220 he comes off for the sake of the decision makers. He did not change how he comes off for the sake of

00:07:53.020 the decision makers and who are decision makers in the National Football League, primarily non-minorities,

00:07:57.960 primarily white people. So if it's not football, what is it? Are there racial undertones here,

00:08:03.460 racist undertones? You be the judge. Racism is so hard to sort of grasp and prove and

00:08:11.900 but it just stinks. It smells of racist undertones of too many white people in charge in this league.

00:08:23.980 That was Ryan Clark, Emmanuel Acho, and Skip Bayless in order. Three of the most prominent

00:08:31.140 sports commentators in the country. All of them agree that this came down to race. Skip is practically

00:08:37.680 in tears over it. I mean, the guy's crying almost about it. Emmanuel says that he was up all night

00:08:45.180 mewling about it, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. I assume he was reaching for the word

00:08:49.660 mulling. But the other thing about sports commentators is that they really are, for the

00:08:54.240 most part, fantastically stupid. I mean, these are very, very dumb people. Stephen A. Smith was also

00:09:01.200 outraged. He was tweeting in a frantic hysteria all weekend, repeatedly invoking Colin Kaepernick

00:09:06.080 and alleging that there was collusion at play, just as there was allegedly to keep Kaepernick out of

00:09:11.280 the league. And it wasn't just sports commentators. Jamal Bowman, the former congressman, famous only

00:09:16.360 for pulling a fire alarm. He's that guy, in case you forgot. He put out a video on Saturday, on Saturday

00:09:21.180 claiming that Shador's fate is more evidence that America continues to fear strong black men,

00:09:28.040 quote unquote. And he also said this.

00:09:32.240 I take it personal when I see someone like Shador Sanders, you know, because he talk a

00:09:38.320 certain way, and because he wears gold chains, and his pops is Dion, and he don't want to submit to

00:09:44.800 y'all, y'all white, you know, he's gonna, he's gonna slip in the draft. And you're telling me it's 0.84

00:09:53.120 based on the evaluation, like you didn't watch the games and watch him play, and see him play. Like,

00:09:59.520 it's crazy. Peace.

00:10:03.800 Now, given that I have an audience of intelligent people, certainly more intelligent than Jamal 0.99

00:10:08.400 Bowman, who has the approximate IQ of a rubber spatula, I probably don't need to explain that

00:10:14.180 these racism complaints are totally asinine. I mean, if you think that Shador wasn't drafted in

00:10:21.080 the first round because he's black, you'll have to explain why the guy selected number one overall

00:10:26.220 is black. Also, the guy selected number two is black. So was the guy selected number three. So

00:10:31.440 was the guy selected number six, number seven, number eight, number nine, 11, 12, 13, and so on.

00:10:36.060 There were 32 selections in the first round. All but five of them were black. And this ratio,

00:10:41.960 of course, held up through the entire draft, just as it did in last year's draft and the year before

00:10:46.760 that and before that and before that and before that for decades, which is why only 25% of the

00:10:51.800 players in the NFL are white. All of the rest of them are black or some other racial minority. 0.70

00:10:57.860 The vast majority of NFL players are black. The vast majority of the biggest stars are black.

00:11:01.760 The highest paid player in the league is black. So where is the racism coming into play exactly?

00:11:06.900 Is it that black players are held to a higher standard? Are black players scrutinized and

00:11:11.140 penalized and criticized more? That was one of the claims we heard very often over the weekend

00:11:15.980 about this. Well, that doesn't really work either because Deshaun Watson,

00:11:19.920 a black quarterback, was credibly accused of sexual assault by over 20 women, 20, and yet was

00:11:26.920 still given the richest contract in league history after all of that, all of those accusations were

00:11:33.120 made public. There are black players in the league who have been involved in all manner of scandals and

00:11:38.520 crimes and alleged crimes. The Baltimore Ravens selected a player in the second round of this year's

00:11:42.580 draft who was accused of rape in high school and then again in college. He's also black,

00:11:48.180 but they needed an edge rusher and the kid has talent, so they overlooked all the rape stuff.

00:11:53.980 That's how NFL teams operate. I mean, they don't care about the color of your skin or the crimes on

00:11:57.920 your rap sheets. They don't care if you're a serial killer. It doesn't. If you can help them win games,

00:12:02.460 it's all that matters. Winning is the only thing that matters. You know, most people know the Ravens

00:12:07.020 most legendary player of all time. A black man, Ray Lewis, was charged with double murder. Two people

00:12:15.060 he was alleged to have killed. A year later, he won Super Bowl MVP. After. So nothing matters in

00:12:22.500 football but winning. Which, by the way, is what I love about football, actually. It's the ultimate

00:12:26.820 meritocracy. Shador suffered his tragic drop for which all of humanity weeps and the heavens cry out

00:12:33.040 for justice because he's not a great prospect. He's a pretty good prospect. He's better than me.

00:12:39.200 He definitely should be drafted higher than I should, but he's not great by the standards of,

00:12:43.500 you know, by NFL standards. He's not as talented as a lot of the guys who went before him. Also,

00:12:49.460 to make matters much worse, he's a high-maintenance diva with an ego bigger than any room he walks into. 0.98

00:12:54.860 According to lots of reports, that's exactly how he came across in his pre-draft interviews with

00:12:58.540 various teams. I mean, this is a guy who had a room custom-built just for the draft night broadcast

00:13:04.740 with the word legendary painted all over the walls. He has declared himself an NFL legend before even

00:13:13.060 being drafted by a team. He hosted a draft party where he performed some of his rap songs because

00:13:19.000 apparently he moonlights as a rapper. And during this party, he walked around with a giant briefcase

00:13:24.280 full of cash. At the NFL scouting combine, he said that he doesn't even need to explain why an NFL

00:13:31.120 team should draft him. There's just no question that Shador deserves to be drafted. According to

00:13:36.120 Shador, listen. If you ain't trying to change the franchise or the culture, don't get me.

00:13:41.680 So you should know history repeats itself over and over and over. And I've done it over and over and

00:13:47.120 over. So it should be no question why NFL franchise should pick him. You think I'm worried about what

00:13:52.720 critics say or what people got to say? You know who my dad is? They hated on him too. So it's like,

00:13:58.840 it's almost normal. Without people hating, it's not normal for us. So we like diversity. We like

00:14:05.260 everything that comes with the name. That's why we are who we are.

00:14:09.260 If you aren't ready to change the culture, don't draft me, he says. That was his message to teams

00:14:14.300 considering drafting him, a message that was apparently heard loud and clear. This is, of course,

00:14:18.380 the opposite of what you want to say in a job interview situation. Employers are looking for

00:14:25.120 candidates who will fit into their workplace culture, not candidates who demand that the

00:14:30.600 culture change for them. I mean, just imagine walking into an interview and saying, hey, if you

00:14:35.520 hire me, I'm going to need you to change the whole culture and the entire way you do business.

00:14:40.920 Okay, that's how special I am. That is a surefire recipe for getting laughed out of the room.

00:14:45.680 The only real mystery here is how this jackass managed to find any team dumb and desperate

00:14:51.080 enough to draft him, but it's Cleveland we're talking about. Dumb and desperate is sort of

00:14:54.540 their brand. So it turns out they actually won't have to change their culture at all.

00:14:59.280 In any case, in this story, what we find is, to me, the real tragedy of the left-wing race hustle.

00:15:10.860 We find what really makes it so harmful, at least one of the things that makes it so harmful.

00:15:15.680 Which is that it constantly destroys opportunities for much more productive conversations.

00:15:24.780 So many teachable moments, especially for younger people, have been wasted over the past several

00:15:33.820 years because the usual suspects inject their racial victimization narrative into it, completely

00:15:39.660 derailing what could have otherwise been a useful discussion. And in this case, we could have been

00:15:46.680 talking about the value of humility. And we could use a lot more conversations about humility as it

00:15:52.840 falls second only to chastity as the most underrated virtue of our time. Shador comes from a generation 1.00

00:15:58.880 that has been thoroughly brainwashed into the religion of self-worship. And his dad is Deion Sanders,

00:16:03.880 who is one of the prophets of that religion. But in the real world, you can only get away with being

00:16:10.660 a narcissistic nightmare if you're extremely talented and gifted. Basically, if the weight of your ego is

00:16:17.240 still somehow outweighed by your skills. Well, then you can get away with it. But even then, you're only

00:16:23.540 getting away with being a narcissist. It certainly isn't helping you. And eventually, as your skills fade,

00:16:29.700 as they will for everyone, no matter your line of work, this equation may not work out in your favor

00:16:35.500 anymore. You know, the thing about a narcissist is that their skills, their talents, their physical

00:16:41.220 gifts, whatever it is that's causing people to put up with their nonsense, all of that isn't going to

00:16:46.120 last forever. But narcissism, unchecked, will last forever, or at least until death. In fact, it probably

00:16:53.340 will only grow with age, like a tumor. So the lesson is that no matter how talented you are, it's better

00:17:01.680 to be humble. Like there are two kinds of people in this world, after all, the humble and those who

00:17:07.980 will be humbled, as Christ explains to us in the Beatitudes. It's much better to be in the first group

00:17:14.680 than the second. And that's the lesson we could take from this. But instead, we're hearing again about

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00:18:49.840 dot com slash Walsh. Daily Wire reports, FBI Director Cash Patel said on Friday that federal agents

00:18:56.220 arrested a Milwaukee County, Wisconsin judge who was suspected of helping an illegal immigrant from

00:19:00.640 Mexico evade Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers. Last week, ICE agents showed up at a Milwaukee

00:19:05.900 County Courthouse to arrest a Mexican citizen after a hearing before Judge Hannah Dugan. The judge

00:19:11.380 directed ICE agents to wait in Chief Judge Carl Ashley's office and then told the defendant to

00:19:16.480 exit the courtroom through a side door. Patel said in a post, quote,

00:19:21.980 We believe Judge Dugan intentionally misdirected federal agents away from the subject to be arrested

00:19:26.460 in a courthouse. Thankfully, our agents chased down the perp on foot, and he's been in custody since,

00:19:31.620 but the judge's obstruction created increased danger to the public. The FBI Director added that

00:19:36.980 the Bureau would share more information soon and thanked the FBI's Milwaukee Field Office for its

00:19:41.320 work in arresting the judge. Pam Bondi, Attorney General, also confirmed it on X, saying,

00:19:50.360 I can confirm that our FBI agents just arrested Hannah Dugan, the county judge in Milwaukee,

00:19:54.200 for allegedly helping an illegal alien avoid an arrest by ICE. No one is above the law.

00:19:59.100 So this is great. I mean, this is exactly what we've been waiting for, what we need,

00:20:06.820 holding these kinds of people accountable. And of course, the media is treating this like it's a

00:20:12.540 nuclear catastrophe, but these are the same people who cheered for years while a former president was

00:20:17.380 arrested multiple times. So we don't need to take their protests seriously at all.

00:20:22.440 Uh, this judge allegedly obstructed the enforcement of immigration law and, you know, stood in the way

00:20:29.020 of the law being enforced. Um, if the allegations are true, then it was like, this is a flagrant,

00:20:35.740 not even a borderline case. I don't even know what a borderline case like this would look like, but

00:20:40.640 whatever it is, it's not this. If this is what she in fact did, which was like, tell the ICE agents

00:20:46.260 to go wait over there and then sneak this guy out the back entrance. Um, you're trying to let a,

00:20:52.320 you're trying to help a fugitive essentially escape justice. And, um, if that's the case,

00:20:58.380 then she committed a crime. She should be prosecuted. She should be convicted and, um,

00:21:02.980 and then also sent to prison. So it's, it's important that every part of this happen.

00:21:06.900 This is the first step, but if it's not seen through to the end, including prison time,

00:21:13.880 then, then, then it will have the opposite of the effect that's intended because this,

00:21:21.000 this should be a, a kind of a warning shot. This should be a, uh, uh, you know, making an example

00:21:26.460 of this person that we don't care if you're a judge. We don't care if you're a mayor, a governor.

00:21:31.500 Uh, we have borders in this country. We have immigration law and you are not entitled to, 1.00

00:21:39.080 to, uh, defy it whenever you feel like. Um, so this is an opportunity to make an example out of

00:21:47.240 someone, but if she ends up getting off the hook, if she ends up just getting a slap on the wrist,

00:21:53.340 then you've done the opposite of, of, uh, of making an example or you've made an example,

00:21:57.600 but it's the wrong kind of example. So she needs to go to prison. 1.00

00:22:01.500 If she is in fact guilty. And if you want to know more about this judge, Hannah Dugan, here's,

00:22:06.140 um, a clip of her from, I think recently, uh, not in relation to this case, but her just sort of

00:22:12.680 talking about her judicial philosophy, I suppose. Uh, listen to this.

00:22:17.940 The rule of law is, um, how we, uh, address our social issues and how we address our, uh, disputes,

00:22:26.820 but also how we grow as people. The rule of law, um, is premised on equal justice, but also we have

00:22:33.780 evolved into due process. And it's really the, um, due process, uh, I as a person who, uh, for a couple

00:22:42.100 of decades almost represented, um, low income people. It is due process that really equalizes

00:22:48.340 those, uh, differences between people. If we follow the rule of law, which includes processing

00:22:54.800 our cases in an orderly manner, in a predictable manner, in, uh, a manner that holds people to

00:23:02.180 standards, then we're able to achieve, um, that equal justice that we are promised and hope to have,

00:23:10.900 um, continue, despite our differences, despite, um, our class differences, despite our racial and

00:23:19.780 religious differences. The Milwaukee Courthouse has for decades been known to really attempt

00:23:25.700 innovations. Apply the traditional law, but also look at solutions that are more complicated because

00:23:32.420 these cases that involve, say, veterans or, um, mental health patients or children are more complicated

00:23:40.820 than what the law can, can address. The solutions or the sanctions or the punishment or the sentences

00:23:49.780 are fashioned more towards, um, addressing the global issues involved in the case,

00:23:57.300 such as violence or, um, mental health issues or drug treatment issues, rather than punishing outright.

00:24:04.980 Okay. Um, excruciating, but that's the kind of, kind of a perfect video in many ways,

00:24:10.020 because it's a perfect representation of the kinds of woke judges that are destroying our communities,

00:24:14.900 destroying our country. Uh, so much violence and chaos comes from these kinds of people. But when

00:24:21.700 you listen to her and you're not paying attention to the content, she, she sounds very unobjectionable.

00:24:28.580 She's got, you've got the elevator piano music in the background. Uh, it's just this old lady who 1.00

00:24:34.580 sounds and looks like a DMV employee, uh, babbling and almost a whispered tone, uh, kind of monotone

00:24:42.180 talking about helping the less fortunate or whatever, not ranting and raving, not foaming at the mouth,

00:24:48.420 nothing like that. Uh, there's nothing on the surface that sort of screams radical to you.

00:24:55.060 And yet her ideology is extremely radical and it has calls caused untold harm. I mean,

00:25:04.180 this woman is a conqueror and destroyer women and everyone like her. Our society has been conquered 1.00

00:25:11.620 and destroyed by these kinds of women, not only women, but many of them are. This is like, 0.99

00:25:18.020 she's like the Genghis Khan of our time. That's what our Genghis Khan looks like. Unfortunately, 0.85

00:25:22.260 like, like a middle school lunch lady. So what is, what is she actually saying? Well, you know,

00:25:26.820 you kind of have to understand the code. You have to know a bit about how to translate woke jargon

00:25:31.460 into English. And she says that the Milwaukee courthouse is innovating. Well, that's a red flag.

00:25:36.900 Number one, we don't want judges to innovate. Innovation is not what we want from the judicial

00:25:42.580 system. We want you to enforce the law. We want you to punish the offenders. We don't really want

00:25:48.900 innovation. And then, and then she says that we're, well, we're focusing less on punishment.

00:25:54.900 And that of course is the major red flag. That's the number one major red flag. You hear this from

00:25:58.580 a judge. That's like the worst thing you can hear from a judge, but we're not focused on punishment.

00:26:06.260 It's like hearing a doctor say, you know, I'm not as focused on treating the actual disease.

00:26:11.220 I try to be more innovative. I try to be more open-minded. Some diseases are good.

00:26:15.700 No, treat the disease. That's why you exist. That's your whole job.

00:26:21.220 And as a job, as a, as a judge, your job is to punish, not to innovate. Your job is to punish.

00:26:30.020 Now that may not be your only job in every case, but that's really your main job. Yes,

00:26:39.060 it's to punish, not, not to bring about social change, which she talks about in the longer clip.

00:26:44.660 Your job is to follow the law and force it and, and punish. Your job is justice.

00:26:51.460 You are the justice system. We're part of it. And justice means punishment.

00:27:00.580 That's, that's what it means.

00:27:01.380 So when you hear that, you automatically know this is a, despite how she comes off, this is a dangerous radical.

00:27:12.580 And this is how our dangerous radicals come off. And this is someone who, again, if she's guilty of what she's been accused, she deserves to go to prison.

00:27:21.780 Daily Wire reports, North Dakota Republican governor, Kelly Armstrong, vetoed a bill this week that would have required school districts to keep books determined to be sexually explicit out of the reach of students.

00:27:34.420 Saying that the bill was a misguided attempt to legislate morality.

00:27:39.940 Armstrong, on Tuesday, vetoed Senate Bill 2307, which would have prohibited school districts from maintaining explicit sexual material in classrooms and libraries and would allow concerned parents and others to initiate a review of materials they believe may be in violation of the law.

00:27:53.800 In his veto message, Armstrong said that enforcing the bill would be unworkable and infringe on free speech.

00:28:02.280 Quote, while I recognize the concerns that led to its introduction, SB 2307 represents a misguided attempt to legislate morality through overreach and censorship.

00:28:10.720 The bill imposes vague and punitive burdens on professionals and opens the door to a host of unintended and damaging consequences for our communities.

00:28:18.020 The legislation would have expanded on a law passed in 2023 that barred public libraries from keeping sexually explicit books in their children's section.

00:28:25.800 The law also requires public libraries to have a policy in place to keep explicit books out of the children's section.

00:28:32.300 SB 2307 would have expanded those guidelines to school districts, requiring districts to ensure that students were not exposed to sexually explicit material through physical books or online resources offered to them.

00:28:43.080 Districts would also have been mandated to put policies in place to ensure compliance.

00:28:46.920 Districts, Armstrong, in a message, said that it's redundant and overly burdensome, and so he vetoed the bill.

00:28:55.140 So this is a bill to keep sexually explicit books away from kids in school.

00:28:59.480 A Republican governor in North Dakota vetoes it.

00:29:03.880 Now, here's the thing.

00:29:05.720 He says the bill is redundant, and if that was his only complaint, and if it were true, then I would agree with his decision to veto it.

00:29:14.860 Because, you know, we get that kind of thing a lot.

00:29:17.820 A bill is passed to do something that's already being done by another bill or by several other bills.

00:29:25.420 So even if you support what it's doing, you should object to it because we don't need redundant legislation.

00:29:31.100 We don't need multiple laws all doing the same thing.

00:29:34.380 That's a waste of time.

00:29:35.420 It creates unnecessary confusion, unnecessary sort of red tape and bureaucracy and all that.

00:29:40.120 But then this guy, Governor Armstrong, he admits in the same breath that it's not redundant because he lists all of these other things that he says the bill will do.

00:29:50.580 He says that it overreaches, that it imposes censorship.

00:29:53.140 Presumably, the other bill that he signed didn't overreach, didn't impose censorship in his view, which means that this bill is different.

00:30:02.700 It's not merely redundant.

00:30:04.120 It's not redundant at all.

00:30:05.300 It's doing some, you know, his actual complaint is not that the bill is redundant, but that it goes farther than other bills have gone, which means that it's, again, means that it's not redundant.

00:30:18.220 So let's just put that complaint to the side.

00:30:20.040 Now, his real issue is that this bill is censorship and that it, quote, legislates morality.

00:30:31.320 So let's take each of these objections one at a time.

00:30:35.900 Censorship, he says.

00:30:39.040 Well, yeah, it is censorship, and that's good.

00:30:43.480 Okay, we want censorship in the schools.

00:30:46.560 We do.

00:30:47.320 Yes, we want schools to engage in some amount of censorship.

00:30:54.080 What does censorship mean?

00:30:56.200 It means suppressing or prohibiting material that is deemed objectionable.

00:31:02.080 That's all that censorship is.

00:31:03.580 That's what it means.

00:31:05.580 Now, there are plenty of contexts where we don't want censorship.

00:31:09.460 There are plenty of occasions where things are censored wrongly or where the wrong things are censored.

00:31:15.000 Okay, so nobody thinks that all censorship is good.

00:31:18.520 No one has that opinion.

00:31:20.180 But this idea that censorship in principle is bad, that you can sort of make an argument against something simply by calling it censorship, as if it's a foregone conclusion that, oh, yeah, well, that's censorship.

00:31:34.040 Of course that's wrong.

00:31:34.760 No, that's, that's, it's, it's ludicrous.

00:31:39.240 Okay, obviously, we want to prohibit certain objectionable materials in the schools.

00:31:46.180 Obviously, we do.

00:31:47.820 Does anyone actually think that there should be zero censorship in the schools?

00:31:52.120 Does anyone think that literally any kind of material at all should be made available in the school buildings?

00:32:00.980 Any material?

00:32:02.960 So, like, a hardcore porn magazine should be allowed in school?

00:32:07.660 A manual on how to make a pipe bomb, we should just, like, have that in the school library for fourth graders?

00:32:14.000 Does anyone think that?

00:32:15.120 Well, unless you're a full-on lunatic, you would say that those materials obviously don't belong in the schools, which means, yes, they should be censored.

00:32:24.640 We got to get over this really silly aversion people have to, well, I can't, I can't support censorship.

00:32:31.280 I'm against censorship.

00:32:32.480 No, you're not.

00:32:33.960 Unless you're psychotic, you're not against censorship in principle.

00:32:39.100 Yes, of course we want censorship.

00:32:42.520 There's a whole bunch of stuff.

00:32:43.960 There's a lot of, there are many different kinds of material that we don't want in the schools.

00:32:49.320 Of course.

00:32:51.320 So, we do want a certain amount of censorship in the schools.

00:32:53.740 Personally, you know, I don't know about you.

00:32:57.600 I mean, I could come up with 50 books off the top of my head that I would, 50 shades of gray.

00:33:02.480 I don't think that should be on the, in the classroom, you know, I don't think that should be on the shelf in a first grade classroom, or any grade, really.

00:33:12.700 Does anyone?

00:33:14.800 Okay, so censorship.

00:33:16.060 Yeah, I think, I think in the schools, that book should be censored.

00:33:19.240 It should be prohibited, because it's not appropriate for a school environment.

00:33:23.880 So, we got to get over this ridiculous allergy that people have to the word censorship.

00:33:29.060 I'm against censorship.

00:33:30.160 No, you aren't.

00:33:30.920 Shut up. 0.95

00:33:32.460 No, you aren't.

00:33:34.080 We just established that you don't want 50 shades of gray, unless you're a total pervert.

00:33:38.500 You don't want that in the school.

00:33:39.540 So, you're in favor of censoring that book in that context.

00:33:45.100 And that's okay.

00:33:46.120 It's okay.

00:33:46.920 You can admit that.

00:33:49.340 It's okay to admit it.

00:33:53.240 So, objecting to this bill on the grounds that it's censorship is incoherent.

00:33:57.220 Of course it's censorship.

00:33:58.140 Only a very small number of the books that have been written in human history are going to be found inside a school.

00:34:06.440 And so, a lot of thought should be put into what books make the cut.

00:34:10.500 And the vast majority of books will not make the cut, either because they're objectionable, or they're inappropriate, or they have no educational value, or they're just not needed.

00:34:23.500 But, in any case, we're making decisions about what kind of material should be made available in this context to kids.

00:34:35.080 And so, yes, we're engaging in a form of censorship.

00:34:40.740 And it really is okay to just say that out loud and stop being so scared of the word.

00:34:46.440 We're going around pretending, I'm an absolutist.

00:34:48.860 I'm an absolutist.

00:34:49.560 I don't believe.

00:34:50.120 No, you're not.

00:34:50.740 Shut up. 0.95

00:34:51.180 No, you're not.

00:34:52.000 No, you're not.

00:34:52.820 Unless you're a total pervert.

00:34:53.880 Unless you're a pervert psycho, you're not an absolutist on this.

00:34:57.620 So, stop pretending that you are.

00:34:59.080 And you see this even from people on the right all the time.

00:35:01.000 Go on X anytime.

00:35:01.780 You can see people, I don't stand for any censorship at all.

00:35:06.120 Just, I'm so tired of this.

00:35:08.640 These freaking morons.

00:35:11.360 We talked in the opening about people derailing conversations, making it impossible to have any kind of real adult conversation.

00:35:17.920 And this is another area.

00:35:19.120 It's impossible to have a real adult conversation because you have these idiots running around claiming to be these absolutists. 0.98

00:35:27.080 And they're just not.

00:35:28.240 You're not actually.

00:35:30.480 So, yeah, let's just say, yeah, obviously there are occasions where censorship is needed, like in a school.

00:35:37.840 So, let's just get over that part of it, okay?

00:35:40.620 And have an actual adult conversation about what should be in the school.

00:35:46.740 And then finally he says that we shouldn't legislate morality.

00:35:52.320 And this is another one.

00:35:55.060 I'm so sick of this too.

00:35:56.380 I guess I'm just in a bad mood today, even more than usual.

00:36:00.280 I'm so tired of this.

00:36:01.620 And this is another one.

00:36:02.540 You hear it from people on the right.

00:36:03.760 Oh, well, we shouldn't legislate morality.

00:36:06.060 Again, shut up. 1.00

00:36:07.800 Just, that's my answer to everything now is just shut the hell up. 0.83

00:36:11.780 You're so dumb.

00:36:12.640 If you go around saying we shouldn't legislate morality, you are too dumb to participate in any of these conversations.

00:36:18.640 You are so stupid that you don't belong in the conversation.

00:36:22.160 If I could, I wish that we could take anyone who still uses the phrase legislate morality and banish them to a small volcanic island somewhere in the Pacific, okay?

00:36:33.120 And let the volcano do what it's going to do.

00:36:35.360 You know, I'm not saying we should throw them into the volcano.

00:36:38.340 I'm not saying we should kill them.

00:36:39.340 I wouldn't say that.

00:36:40.200 I'm just saying, put them on the island and, you know, let nature take its course.

00:36:46.360 That may sound like overkill.

00:36:47.840 I understand.

00:36:48.460 But I just can't take it anymore.

00:36:52.400 I can't.

00:36:54.020 Even now, you still have these people running around saying we don't want to legislate morality.

00:36:59.660 We hear it from Republican politicians.

00:37:01.880 At least them.

00:37:02.640 Can we start with them?

00:37:04.020 Exile the Republican politicians who still use the phrase legislate morality unironically.

00:37:10.200 Okay.

00:37:12.820 Yes, Governor.

00:37:14.000 Yeah, the bill legislates morality.

00:37:16.020 Do you know what else legislates morality?

00:37:17.960 Literally every law that's ever been passed anywhere on earth at any time.

00:37:22.940 All of them legislate morality.

00:37:25.540 That's what a law is, you ignoramus.

00:37:28.660 That's what a law does.

00:37:30.560 That's the point of a law.

00:37:33.220 Why do you think we have laws?

00:37:35.780 Do you think laws are supposed to be morally neutral?

00:37:38.980 Like we just, we make a law, we don't even care whether it's, when we prohibit something,

00:37:44.440 it's whether the thing is good or bad.

00:37:45.920 We don't even know.

00:37:46.540 We don't care.

00:37:47.340 We're just randomly passing laws without any sense of what's right or wrong.

00:37:52.820 Is that what you want?

00:37:53.680 You utter dumbass.

00:37:56.260 Is that what you think we should do?

00:37:59.700 Every law ever passed anywhere legislates morality.

00:38:02.920 Every law is grounded in some kind of moral code.

00:38:06.260 That's what a law is.

00:38:07.400 That's the point.

00:38:08.140 Now, a law can be wrong.

00:38:12.320 So please don't come back and say, well, yeah, but sometimes people make things illegal when

00:38:16.820 they shouldn't be.

00:38:17.320 Yeah, obviously.

00:38:19.720 Yes, it can.

00:38:21.160 Every law legislates morality.

00:38:23.000 It can legislate it wrongly.

00:38:25.340 A law can be grounded in the wrong moral code.

00:38:28.560 A law can be bad.

00:38:30.780 It can be wrong.

00:38:32.040 Okay, it can legislate morality wrongly or counterproductively.

00:38:38.220 But every law, the good ones and the bad ones, legislate morality.

00:38:44.460 The alternative is an amoral law.

00:38:48.520 Okay, a law that is passed without any concept of right or wrong.

00:38:52.740 Just a random, arbitrary law.

00:38:55.140 A law that prohibits or allows something regardless of whether that thing is seen as good or bad.

00:39:00.880 That's the alternative.

00:39:02.040 That's what not legislating morality would entail.

00:39:06.840 And that would be insane.

00:39:10.360 Okay, so take anything that's currently illegal that you think should be illegal.

00:39:17.660 Because I assume if you go around screaming about, we don't want to legislate morality,

00:39:21.540 I assume you agree that we should legislate some things.

00:39:26.260 There should be some laws, I assume you would agree.

00:39:29.700 So just take any law.

00:39:32.820 Let's take an easy one.

00:39:34.480 Everybody thinks that murder should be illegal.

00:39:36.780 At least everyone thinks that, you know, after birth it should be illegal.

00:39:40.360 So let's take the case of, like, murdering some random 35-year-old person.

00:39:45.700 Everyone thinks that should be illegal.

00:39:48.080 And it is.

00:39:48.940 You know, at least in theory, in every country on earth.

00:39:52.040 Okay, why?

00:39:56.520 Why is it illegal?

00:39:59.280 There's a riddle for you, governor.

00:40:03.260 Why is it illegal?

00:40:06.660 Well, you say, well, it's got nothing to do with morality.

00:40:08.580 It's because you're hurting someone.

00:40:11.300 Okay, genius.

00:40:13.040 Why shouldn't we hurt people?

00:40:15.460 Hurting people?

00:40:16.040 Who cares about that?

00:40:16.780 Why should I care about that?

00:40:18.440 Who cares?

00:40:19.100 Yeah, it hurts someone.

00:40:19.820 What does that matter?

00:40:21.440 Why shouldn't I hurt people?

00:40:22.900 Why shouldn't I?

00:40:24.420 Oh, because hurting people is evil.

00:40:28.520 That's it.

00:40:29.220 I mean, that's the answer.

00:40:30.180 Like, if it wasn't evil, it shouldn't be illegal.

00:40:35.960 Now, that doesn't mean that every evil thing should necessarily be illegal.

00:40:42.000 It does mean that everything that's illegal should be evil.

00:40:48.080 Okay, so I would say this again for our friend, the governor of North Dakota.

00:40:55.360 Not every evil thing should necessarily be illegal.

00:41:00.180 But everything that is illegal should be evil.

00:41:04.260 There shouldn't be anything that's good and is illegal.

00:41:09.380 In fact, if something is wrongly made illegal and people are objecting to it,

00:41:16.260 the whole reason they're objecting to it is because they're saying,

00:41:19.280 well, no, that's good, though.

00:41:21.040 You can't make that illegal.

00:41:22.440 It's a good thing.

00:41:28.260 Okay.

00:41:30.180 Going 30 miles over the speed limit is illegal.

00:41:32.960 Most people think it should be.

00:41:34.740 Okay, going 55 and a 25 in a residential neighborhood, in a school zone.

00:41:38.380 Okay, that's what most people think.

00:41:39.660 Why is it illegal?

00:41:40.340 Oh, because you might hurt someone.

00:41:41.080 Again, why does that matter?

00:41:42.460 Because it's wrong.

00:41:43.520 Because it's evil.

00:41:44.540 Because it's wrong to harm people that way.

00:41:46.660 So any law, it only takes about one or two moves before you're back here, before you're back at morality,

00:41:55.280 before you're back at a moral code.

00:41:57.180 Because that's what all laws are based on.

00:42:02.520 And you can't get around it by saying, no, it's not based on laws.

00:42:05.080 It's about protecting rights.

00:42:07.880 Okay.

00:42:08.680 Why does it matter to protect?

00:42:10.300 Who cares about rights?

00:42:11.340 That's got nothing to do with morality.

00:42:14.460 We've got to protect people's liberty, their rights, their human rights.

00:42:17.200 Who cares about liberty?

00:42:18.320 Who cares about human rights? 0.84

00:42:19.760 Why does that matter?

00:42:21.100 Why shouldn't we take away somebody's rights?

00:42:23.600 Oh, because it's wrong to do that.

00:42:25.260 Because it's evil.

00:42:26.800 Because that's one of the evil things that we've decided should be illegal.

00:42:29.580 So, those are two things that I would appreciate never hearing again.

00:42:39.020 At least not for people on our side.

00:42:42.080 We shouldn't legislate morality.

00:42:43.980 I'm against censorship.

00:42:45.780 Just stop it.

00:42:47.460 If I could censor people from saying that, I would.

00:42:50.680 That's why it's good that you guys are, it's good for everyone that I'm not the dictator of the country.

00:42:55.080 Because we would add this to the list of laws that I would pass.

00:43:00.500 Because my laws would be, well, they'd be moral, don't get me wrong.

00:43:05.140 But also, it would be largely based on what I personally find annoying.

00:43:09.340 That's how I would, I admit it, that's how I would govern.

00:43:11.240 But I'm not in charge of that, so it's fine.

00:43:15.260 Finally, we've got this from Trump, President Trump.

00:43:20.040 He put this out yesterday.

00:43:21.900 He said, I'm bringing Columbus Day back from the ashes.

00:43:24.220 The Democrats did everything possible to destroy Christopher Columbus, his reputation,

00:43:27.720 all the Italians that love him so much.

00:43:30.900 They tore down his statues, put up nothing but woke, or even worse, nothing at all.

00:43:34.640 Well, you'll be happy to know Christopher Columbus is going to make a major comeback.

00:43:38.420 I am hereby reinstating Columbus Day under the same rules, dates, and locations

00:43:41.500 as it has had for all of the many decades before.

00:43:45.640 So he's bringing Columbus Day back, which is great news.

00:43:50.120 Columbus, Christopher Columbus is a hero.

00:43:51.980 He's one of the most important and consequential figures in the history of Western civilization.

00:43:55.940 Deserves to be celebrated.

00:43:57.980 I think everyone knows how I feel about this.

00:43:59.900 I've given my Columbus speech probably about 50 times already.

00:44:03.540 I give it every Columbus Day, and it's not Columbus Day yet, so you've heard it at least

00:44:06.880 that many times.

00:44:07.760 But I'll give it 50 more times if I have to.

00:44:09.420 Because the attempts to demonize Columbus and minimize his importance are ridiculous,

00:44:14.140 pathetic, just not credible, just not credible.

00:44:21.480 And the conversation that comes up around this, again, you've got all these people saying,

00:44:25.540 well, but Christopher Columbus, he committed these acts of brutality.

00:44:29.400 He's a brutal.

00:44:30.200 He engaged in slavery and all these things.

00:44:34.260 Yeah, he did.

00:44:35.120 He committed some acts of brutality.

00:44:37.400 He did take slaves.

00:44:39.280 No, that does not disqualify him from being celebrated today.

00:44:42.240 If he was a person living in the modern age and he took slaves, then, yeah, it would disqualify him.

00:44:47.620 But we can't judge historical people through a modern lens.

00:44:50.760 This is one of those concepts that's really hard for people to grasp.

00:44:53.980 I'm not sure why.

00:44:54.740 But you can't analyze history or learn anything from it unless you start from this position that you understand that you're looking at all these things through a modern lens.

00:45:11.260 And that just doesn't, it doesn't apply.

00:45:17.400 This is not moral relativism.

00:45:21.140 We're not saying that slavery was okay 500 years ago and it's not okay now.

00:45:24.880 Now, what we're saying is that the personal moral guilt of somebody who practiced it or supported it 500 years ago is significantly mitigated compared to somebody who would practice or support it today.

00:45:38.080 The reason is that it was a time when, you know, slavery was an accepted institution across the globe, including in the Americas before the Europeans arrived.

00:45:45.900 Totally, it was just a given, you know, in many places, everywhere really, for thousands of years.

00:45:51.600 Which didn't make it okay, but it does mean that people a long time ago just didn't see it for the evil that it was.

00:45:58.780 For thousands of years, pretty much nobody on earth saw it as an evil.

00:46:01.700 So yes, that mitigates the individual guilt of any one person.

00:46:07.060 It doesn't make sense to go think back to a time when, like, everybody on the planet thought slavery was okay and single out one guy and just make him the moral scapegoat.

00:46:21.240 Put all the guilt on his shoulders.

00:46:22.900 It makes no sense to do that.

00:46:24.100 Especially because, you know, the remarkable thing when it comes to slavery, the really remarkable thing is that the remarkable thing about Europeans at the time is how far ahead of their time they were on this issue. 0.59

00:46:40.320 It never occurred to really a single Indian tribe that slavery is wrong.

00:46:45.400 It never occurred, as far as we know, to anybody in Africa that slavery was wrong.

00:46:50.640 It took a while before it occurred to anyone in Asia that it was wrong.

00:46:54.100 And at that time it was a globally accepted practice and would remain so for centuries.

00:46:58.700 But Europeans started to shift their thinking about it pretty soon after making first contact.

00:47:06.100 It would still be practiced for another 200 years before they abolished it.

00:47:11.100 And when they did, they would be, again, still far ahead of their time.

00:47:14.200 But even back in the 1500s, you start to see this shift happen, which is very early, you know, in comparison with the rest of the globe.

00:47:22.840 For instance, I'm reading a book about Francis Drake right now, who circumnavigated the globe in the 1570s.

00:47:29.120 And he was a slave trader earlier in his career.

00:47:33.720 But by the time of his circumnavigation in like 1578, 79, he had started to change his mind and really abhor the practice and didn't try to enslave the natives that he encountered.

00:47:48.500 And, which, again, it's easy for us to, like, oh, well, congratulations.

00:47:53.160 He didn't try to enslave anyone.

00:47:54.300 Big achievement.

00:47:56.040 But actually, at the time it was, because very few people had that kind of insight.

00:48:01.680 So it's easy for us to be unimpressed by it.

00:48:04.360 To us, it's obvious that slavery is wrong.

00:48:06.640 We were born into a world that had turned away from the practice centuries earlier.

00:48:10.760 But back then, at the time, it was not obvious at all.

00:48:15.340 And when you were an advanced civilization encountering Stone Age people who run around naked and, in some cases, eat each other,

00:48:23.260 it was not at all obvious that these people are equal to us in some sense, you know, that using them for labor would be a great moral crime.

00:48:34.380 Now, it's obvious to us now, but it was not obvious at the time.

00:48:39.480 And yet, Europeans did come around to that conclusion pretty quickly in the grand scheme of things.

00:48:44.480 And we inherited that conclusion from them.

00:48:49.020 Anyway, all that to say, none of that should prevent us from celebrating Columbus.

00:48:54.040 And Trump says that it won't prevent us anymore.

00:48:56.340 And notice one thing that Trump also says.

00:48:58.720 He says that they tore down the Columbus statues and they put up woke or, even worse, nothing at all in its place.

00:49:07.540 And he's right, because you notice how this campaign was waged to tear down Columbus, to vilify and demonize him.

00:49:15.440 Same thing was done to many of our other historical icons and heroes.

00:49:19.440 But there was always the question of, well, who's going to be put in their place?

00:49:24.500 Who replaces these heroes?

00:49:26.440 Who will be our new historical heroes?

00:49:29.800 And the answer is nobody.

00:49:34.180 There was no replacement.

00:49:37.880 You know, because wokeness has no heroes.

00:49:42.400 Wokeness is an ideology with no past, no tradition, no connection to anything that came before it.

00:49:48.160 You know, and part of that is the fact that wokeness is an ideology that would have seemed insane to everyone as recently as like 20 years ago and any time before that.

00:50:01.180 So there are no woke historical heroes.

00:50:03.880 We have no woke ancestors. 0.96

00:50:05.340 To be far left is to write off everyone who's ever lived up until about 20 years ago.

00:50:12.380 Write them all off as hopeless bigots.

00:50:14.340 But the other part is that, you know, these people are very stupid.

00:50:18.040 They're poorly educated.

00:50:19.060 They're very historically illiterate.

00:50:20.580 But the anti-Columbus brigade, the statue topplers, the people tearing down our heroes, they really know nothing about history.

00:50:31.460 Which is why you'll never hear them say, well, Columbus, he's not the explorer we should be celebrating.

00:50:36.580 Instead, let's celebrate this other guy.

00:50:38.340 You know, whoever, Francis Drake.

00:50:39.900 He was reformed on the slavery issue.

00:50:43.160 They don't say that because they have no idea who Francis Drake is.

00:50:45.440 They couldn't name any Columbus contemporary.

00:50:51.160 Like, ask them to name.

00:50:52.320 Next time you hear someone talking about how evil Columbus is, ask them this.

00:50:56.380 This is fun.

00:50:57.720 Ask them, can you name a single other human who lived within 100 years of Columbus, before or after?

00:51:08.800 So that's 200 years.

00:51:10.940 That's about two centuries.

00:51:11.820 Can you name one other person who lived anywhere on earth during that incredibly long time frame?

00:51:23.840 And they won't be able to.

00:51:25.880 Most of them wouldn't be able to do it.

00:51:28.920 He said, can you name one person who lived in the 1400s or the 1500s?

00:51:32.240 One other person.

00:51:33.240 That's it.

00:51:34.700 They can.

00:51:36.060 In fact, I was thinking about this today.

00:51:37.440 This is actually, this is a good, sort of like a very basic test when I talk about having a simple test that you have to pass before you're able to vote.

00:51:47.340 Here's one.

00:51:48.100 Here's the test.

00:51:48.900 I think anyone, like anyone who can't answer this shouldn't be allowed to vote. 0.57

00:51:56.440 Name one person from each century for the past five centuries.

00:52:03.840 So go back to the 1500s.

00:52:06.340 Name one person who lived in the 1500s.

00:52:08.960 One person in 1600s, one person in 1700s, 1800s, 1900s.

00:52:12.120 Hopefully they can name, they can do the 2000s, but you'll throw that in there.

00:52:16.600 I would guess that a huge number of Americans who graduated from our education system and even the university system could not do that.

00:52:24.920 I, they couldn't do it.

00:52:27.360 One person from each of these centuries.

00:52:30.300 And you can go with the most famous person for me.

00:52:32.560 You could go like, oh, 1500s, Michelangelo.

00:52:36.020 1600s, Shakespeare.

00:52:37.120 1700s, you know, Ben Franklin.

00:52:41.040 1800s, Abe Lincoln.

00:52:42.280 1900s, JFK.

00:52:43.360 Anyway, Hitler. 0.76

00:52:44.300 I mean, there's a lot of people in that.

00:52:46.440 You could do that.

00:52:48.560 But I'm betting that a significant number of people could not do that.

00:52:51.760 It should be like a fourth grade level history test or younger, but it'd be impossible for a lot of people, including the entire woke brigade. 0.99

00:52:58.800 So that's the point.

00:52:59.420 The people that go around saying, well, I got to take down this statue, that person, that statue.

00:53:03.020 We can't celebrate this person anymore.

00:53:05.440 These people, like, it cannot be overstated.

00:53:07.980 These people truly know nothing about the history of their country or of any other country on earth.

00:53:16.580 Because that's what wokeness is.

00:53:17.860 It just, it severs you from the past quite intentionally so that you're kind of floating in this sort of perpetual now where nothing that happened before actually existed or matters.

00:53:28.580 And, you know, that's the root of a lot of our problems in society.

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00:55:33.140 There are a lot of theories for why of the top 20 or so political podcasts, the overwhelming majority of them are conservative-leaning.

00:55:40.640 The same is true of opinion programming and primetime cable news.

00:55:43.360 The most successful ones are all on the right.

00:55:45.820 But if you think about it, it's not difficult to understand what's going on here.

00:55:48.780 As a practical matter, most commentators and politicians on the left are extremely difficult to listen to.

00:55:54.020 And that's not because they lack speaking talent or charisma, although a lot of them do.

00:55:58.320 And it's not because they lack resources or funding.

00:56:02.040 That's certainly not the case.

00:56:03.600 Instead, it's because their ideology, you know, more often than not, does not withstand a significant amount of scrutiny.

00:56:11.320 You know, spend 10 minutes listening to these people and you'll hear all kinds of nonsense and contradictions.

00:56:15.540 It's unbearable to the point that you just want to turn it off, and many people do.

00:56:19.780 So to give just one example, if you can stomach it, here's former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg explaining how he acquired his two children.

00:56:30.480 Watch.

00:56:30.820 So we're in what's called a surprise adoption scenario.

00:56:34.880 So we literally, we got, I was at work, I was traveling, we got a phone call, Chaston called me.

00:56:41.420 And the next day, we were in a rural Midwestern hospital holding him in our arms, and they were like one day old.

00:56:47.860 Like, it was like that.

00:56:49.100 Like, just from like normal life to like, and by the way, it's twins, which was amazing.

00:56:54.320 You didn't know it was twins before.

00:56:55.580 We were just on a list.

00:56:57.060 You know, we said that we were willing to adopt, or we wanted to adopt.

00:57:01.460 We said that we wanted to adopt without regard for race.

00:57:04.040 By the way, anybody who says race is not a thing in this country should experience an adoption process where there are literally different lists.

00:57:11.440 If you say that you want a white kid only versus if you say that doesn't matter. 0.77

00:57:16.920 Like literally a different list.

00:57:18.500 What is that?

00:57:19.060 What do you mean by that?

00:57:20.360 The list for white kid only is longer.

00:57:22.120 And not only that, there was actually a discount, or you didn't have to pay a deposit on the fee.

00:57:32.820 This is like how it works.

00:57:34.240 I couldn't believe it.

00:57:35.820 So as you can tell, everybody on the set appears to be disturbed about the fact that, according to Pete Buttigieg, it's cheaper to acquire a black child than a child of another race.

00:57:46.060 This is supposed to be taken as proof of the fact that America is fundamentally racist or something.

00:57:50.100 And thankfully, Pete Buttigieg is not a racist, so he boldly accepted the discount that he received on his two mixed-race kids.

00:57:57.340 The implication is that in a true post-racial utopia, nothing like this would happen because black children would cost precisely the same amount as white children. 0.94

00:58:05.020 But the reason this conversation is so unsettling, of course, has nothing to do with race.

00:58:09.340 It's unsettling because a middle-aged gay man is talking about how he flew in from out-of-state to purchase children that he has nothing in common with so that he can raise them in a motherless home and use them as props for his political career. 0.96

00:58:23.000 In other words, the real outrage is not that Mayor Pete got a discount for purchasing mixed-race children.

00:58:28.500 The outrage is that he was able to do it in the first place.

00:58:31.340 And you'd think that that would be an uncontroversial statement in post-Civil War America, but of course it's very controversial, even on the right.

00:58:38.220 From the moment that the concept of gay parenthood first took off about a decade ago, social conservatives were met with derision for opposing the idea of men adopting children.

00:58:47.560 But in the end, social conservatives have been proven to be 100% correct, as we have been about literally any other issue you can name.

00:58:57.000 We have been right about everything.

00:59:00.400 This is one of them.

00:59:02.800 Children who are raised by gay men ultimately face double the risk of depression in adulthood, along with much higher rates of anxiety and obesity, according to research by the sociology professor Paul Sullins.

00:59:12.500 They're also at a significant risk of being sexually abused, even though nobody wants to talk about that.

00:59:18.000 Recently, a gay couple in Georgia were convicted and sentenced to 100 years in prison for the systematic rape of two young boys they adopted.

00:59:25.500 Nobody at the adoption agency wanted to, or perhaps was legally allowed to, ask any serious questions about why two gay men are looking to adopt young boys.

00:59:36.120 So the boys were sent to the home with no further questions and subjected to unimaginable torture as a result.

00:59:42.800 Now, in an attempt to address these concerns, we were told that homosexuals should be allowed to adopt children because it's better for a child to have two dads than to be left to wallow in the foster care system indefinitely. 0.67

00:59:54.960 That was the argument.

00:59:56.800 It wasn't really a defense of the idea that children should be raised by two men in an ideal world.

01:00:01.140 Instead, we were told that the alternative was even more horrifying.

01:00:04.860 To the extent that this argument was persuasive to anybody, it hinged on the idea that a critical mass of gay men are interested in raising children out of the goodness of their own hearts, children who are, you know, had been put up for adoption.

01:00:17.860 Now, I didn't find the argument persuasive personally, but a lot of people did.

01:00:20.680 But then, a funny thing happened.

01:00:24.540 Many gay couples decided that they actually don't want to adopt other people's kids.

01:00:29.500 The whole argument for gay parenthood, as wrong as it was, turned out to be, in so many cases, a red herring.

01:00:36.080 A study by researchers at King's College in 2019 found that over 60% of gay men considering parenthood actually prefer surrogacy as the method instead of adoption.

01:00:44.720 In recent years, that number has only increased.

01:00:47.440 And in practice, this means that men are shopping for eggs as well as women to carry the children for them, looking for body parts to rent.

01:00:56.160 And even though Pete Buttigieg won't pretend to be upset by it, all of this people shopping entails a lot of uncomfortable value judgments that implicate genetics, as mothers are screened based on their educational level, eye color, athleticism, and so on.

01:01:10.420 The result is that children are not being rescued from unfortunate situations like foster care and being placed into loving homes.

01:01:18.420 Instead, they're being conceived with the intent of placing them into unfortunate situations.

01:01:25.640 They're being taken from the women who birthed them and given to gay men, like men named Joseph and Nathan Hughes. 0.78

01:01:33.460 Now, if you're not familiar with these two individuals, they apparently sell hair care products on the Internet.

01:01:37.660 They also have a fairly large social media following.

01:01:41.240 And recently, Joseph and Nathan Hughes celebrated the first birthday of two children who they purchased via IVF and surrogacy.

01:01:48.360 And here's what that display looked like.

01:01:50.940 As you watch this, try to do what these two parents are, alleged parents, are incapable of doing and pay close attention to the children.

01:02:01.380 Watch.

01:02:03.620 Oh! 0.60

01:02:05.220 Wow.

01:02:05.800 Hell.

01:02:06.460 Hell.

01:02:06.940 Hell.

01:02:07.660 You want to sit on my shoulder?

01:02:09.260 Oh my gosh.

01:02:10.480 You're so tall.

01:02:11.800 You want to sit on my shoulder?

01:02:13.220 Wow.

01:02:14.620 No.

01:02:16.660 What do you?

01:02:17.580 Kyle, look at all your balloons.

01:02:19.900 Do you love it?

01:02:21.080 Do you love it?

01:02:22.740 Come on, let's go look in here.

01:02:25.200 Wow.

01:02:26.900 What a buried wonderland.

01:02:30.240 Look at this place.

01:02:32.980 Look at this.

01:02:34.140 So beautiful.

01:02:35.500 Look.

01:02:36.100 Look.

01:02:36.700 Look.

01:02:36.900 Look.

01:02:37.900 Look.

01:02:39.540 And Courtney is so talented.

01:02:42.060 Kyle, do you want to sit on your throne?

01:02:44.840 Ready?

01:02:46.060 This has your name on it.

01:02:47.220 Okay, ready?

01:02:49.880 Sit right here.

01:02:52.180 Sit right here.

01:02:53.120 Here's your ball.

01:02:54.360 Ball.

01:02:55.880 Ball.

01:02:58.280 Here's your ball.

01:02:59.180 Distract him.

01:03:00.320 No, put it in his hand.

01:03:01.680 Well, it's a mountain.

01:03:02.340 Ball.

01:03:03.100 Kyle.

01:03:04.100 Okay, ready?

01:03:04.840 Let her take a picture or a video. 0.95

01:03:06.360 Ready?

01:03:07.360 I just find this so...

01:03:10.740 That's hard to watch.

01:03:12.180 Those poor kids.

01:03:13.180 You know, kids need a mother and a father in the home.

01:03:15.820 They need the masculine and the feminine influence and role model in the home. 1.00

01:03:24.200 These kids will have neither.

01:03:27.140 They're not going to have...

01:03:28.420 They have no mother.

01:03:29.620 At least not...

01:03:30.180 They do have a mother, but they don't have a mother that's going to be in their life.

01:03:32.860 So, but I certainly wouldn't...

01:03:37.800 They don't...

01:03:38.720 But they don't...

01:03:39.120 I would not call these men feminine.

01:03:40.800 I would not insult women by comparing these men to feminine.

01:03:44.260 By, you know, comparing these men to women.

01:03:46.260 So they don't have the feminine. 1.00

01:03:47.280 They don't have the mother.

01:03:48.620 They also don't have the masculine.

01:03:49.760 They don't have, like, a real father.

01:03:51.620 Whatever these guys are, that's not either.

01:03:54.680 And so this is far worse than...

01:03:59.220 Far, far, far worse than kids being raised by a single parent.

01:04:04.300 This is, you know, essentially having neither, you know.

01:04:08.780 And so you see these influencers.

01:04:10.620 They're giving instructions to these children like they're dogs

01:04:13.080 so that they post the pictures that these two men want to take.

01:04:16.400 Not even pretending to care about what the kids want to do.

01:04:19.440 Hey, look at the balloons. 0.53

01:04:20.180 You like that?

01:04:20.660 Well, no one cares.

01:04:21.340 Now sit in the chair.

01:04:22.720 And in response to these instructions,

01:04:24.120 the children are behaving exactly as you'd expect them to behave.

01:04:26.400 They're treating these two men like strangers

01:04:27.940 because that's exactly what they are.

01:04:29.980 There's no connection here.

01:04:31.020 There's no affection.

01:04:32.400 It's entirely artificial.

01:04:34.380 And, you know, it's not just one bad video that we're talking about.

01:04:37.840 If you go to these two men's social media accounts,

01:04:40.100 you can find a lot more videos like this one.

01:04:42.580 The children mostly appear to be kind of confused and worried.

01:04:45.800 They're being shown off like props

01:04:47.380 as they're dragged from one set to the next.

01:04:50.520 Here's one more from shortly after the children were born a year ago.

01:04:54.120 Uh, watch.

01:04:57.900 Confessions of a new dad.

01:05:01.020 I have never been more in love in my entire life.

01:05:05.740 Nathan is with Dylan in the NICU,

01:05:07.940 and I'm in the room with Kyle.

01:05:09.320 And they're just perfect.

01:05:13.200 I love them so much.

01:05:15.660 They're gorgeous.

01:05:17.280 They're already so advanced.

01:05:19.280 So perfect.

01:05:20.820 I love you, Kyle.

01:05:23.080 Get that bowed high.

01:05:24.480 I love you.

01:05:27.580 Hmm.

01:05:28.660 Look at her.

01:05:29.480 How could you not love her?

01:05:32.220 Look at that face.

01:05:35.700 Hmm.

01:05:36.060 Yeah, well, if you love her,

01:05:38.640 how about support her head 0.82

01:05:39.680 so that you don't break her neck?

01:05:41.240 You know, that's, that's, um,

01:05:45.140 that's like, like as an actual parent,

01:05:46.620 I can't watch videos like this.

01:05:48.640 I mean, it's, it's hard to watch.

01:05:50.820 Uh, and the comments on this video from women 1.00

01:05:52.900 are worth reading.

01:05:54.000 Uh, a lot of, a lot of, you know,

01:05:55.380 actual mothers that, that are chiming in.

01:05:57.780 Here's one of them, quote,

01:05:58.600 he doesn't know how to hold her properly.

01:06:00.400 This clip genuinely triggered my maternal instinct.

01:06:02.900 Maybe you want to take her away from him 0.88

01:06:04.280 and support her head properly.

01:06:06.180 Here's another quote.

01:06:07.300 Uh, he talks about her like she's a handbag,

01:06:09.400 a fashion accessory.

01:06:10.780 I don't care who throws a tantrum about it.

01:06:12.700 You can hear it.

01:06:13.800 See that he's more interested in his audience

01:06:15.820 than the baby.

01:06:17.480 And these are the results you'd expect

01:06:18.600 when someone pays to have a child created

01:06:20.540 and then purchases that child

01:06:22.020 with the intent from the outset

01:06:24.020 of putting the child into a situation

01:06:25.840 where he will be deprived

01:06:27.500 of something that he needs,

01:06:29.160 which is a mother. 0.83

01:06:30.880 And yet somehow in a relatively short period of time,

01:06:32.840 this behavior is both legal

01:06:34.660 and increasingly common.

01:06:36.420 But no one's ever addressed

01:06:37.960 the fundamental question,

01:06:39.060 which is why exactly should we allow

01:06:41.600 gay couples to rent wombs 1.00

01:06:43.480 so that they can create children

01:06:45.320 who from the start,

01:06:47.220 it has been determined,

01:06:48.640 will not have a stable, loving home

01:06:51.560 with a mother and a father.

01:06:53.680 Every child needs a mother and a father.

01:06:57.020 Many children are tragically deprived

01:06:58.620 of one or both

01:06:59.740 because of circumstances

01:07:00.660 outside of their control,

01:07:02.540 or of anyone's control in many cases.

01:07:05.300 But this is a circumstance

01:07:06.200 very much within our control.

01:07:09.000 So why are we permitting it?

01:07:11.740 No one seems interested

01:07:12.720 in answering the question.

01:07:13.760 Instead, many on the right

01:07:14.600 are content to ignore the issue,

01:07:15.880 have not celebrated.

01:07:16.640 Meanwhile, on the left,

01:07:18.000 there's a new push

01:07:18.640 to have insurance companies

01:07:19.760 and ultimately taxpayers

01:07:20.760 cover the cost

01:07:22.040 of the so-called fertility treatments

01:07:23.760 that gay couples demand 1.00

01:07:25.340 as part of this process,

01:07:26.300 as though the thing stopping two men

01:07:27.860 from conceiving children

01:07:28.620 is a mere fertility issue 0.97

01:07:30.440 and not the laws of nature.

01:07:32.520 As the Guardian puts it,

01:07:33.760 the cost includes,

01:07:34.660 quote,

01:07:35.040 compensation for the egg donor,

01:07:36.680 no less than $8,000,

01:07:37.840 the egg donor agency fee,

01:07:39.100 $8,000 to $10,000,

01:07:40.380 the fertility clinics bill,

01:07:41.780 including genetic testing,

01:07:42.940 blood tests,

01:07:43.920 STD testing,

01:07:45.400 and a psychiatric evaluation

01:07:46.720 for all parties,

01:07:47.500 sperm testing,

01:07:48.300 egg extraction,

01:07:49.120 insemination,

01:07:50.300 the growing,

01:07:50.940 selecting,

01:07:52.620 freezing,

01:07:52.840 and implementation

01:07:53.360 of the resulting embryos

01:07:55.280 up to $70,000.

01:07:56.780 Then there's the cost

01:07:57.480 of a surrogate

01:07:58.100 where agency fees alone

01:07:59.300 could stretch to $25,000

01:08:00.700 and the surrogates themselves

01:08:02.260 could be paid

01:08:03.220 a minimum of $60,000,

01:08:06.120 close quote.

01:08:07.820 Now it's a bit like

01:08:08.400 reading the laundry list

01:08:09.540 of expenditures

01:08:10.180 that trans-identifying patients

01:08:11.640 run up

01:08:12.120 in the service

01:08:13.040 of their fantasies.

01:08:15.100 None of it should be legal,

01:08:17.140 much less covered by insurance

01:08:18.500 or the taxpayer.

01:08:20.240 And that's certainly

01:08:20.680 the case here as well.

01:08:22.320 Surrogacy in general

01:08:23.380 should be banned.

01:08:24.300 Surrogacy in service

01:08:25.240 to the narcissistic desires

01:08:26.820 of all-male couples 0.99

01:08:29.200 who claim that they

01:08:30.040 have some sort of

01:08:31.080 right to parenthood

01:08:32.080 is the greatest

01:08:33.380 abomination of all

01:08:34.420 because nobody

01:08:36.080 has a right

01:08:37.440 to parenthood.

01:08:39.000 Children are not objects

01:08:40.540 that you have

01:08:41.120 the right to possess.

01:08:43.580 Those influencers

01:08:44.380 in those videos,

01:08:45.580 they don't have a right

01:08:46.780 to those children.

01:08:48.820 The children have a right

01:08:50.120 to a mother

01:08:50.740 and a father.

01:08:51.980 They have a right

01:08:52.680 to be children,

01:08:53.600 not fashion statements

01:08:55.100 or accessories

01:08:56.360 or something much worse.

01:08:58.620 Everyone knows

01:08:59.140 that's true.

01:08:59.620 It's why Pete Buttigieg's

01:09:00.600 interview was so uncomfortable.

01:09:01.880 It's why the videos

01:09:03.060 of these influencers

01:09:03.840 are so hard to watch.

01:09:05.420 So much of modern leftism

01:09:06.800 is trying to convince people

01:09:07.980 to disregard

01:09:08.780 their own instincts

01:09:09.660 in the name of some

01:09:11.160 alleged form of progress.

01:09:12.940 But the reality

01:09:13.860 of human biology

01:09:14.700 cannot be suspended,

01:09:15.960 which is why ultimately

01:09:17.100 this madness will end

01:09:18.900 because it has to end.

01:09:20.340 The only question is

01:09:21.140 how many children

01:09:21.740 will be harmed

01:09:22.380 before that happens.

01:09:24.320 And that is why

01:09:24.940 narcissistic men

01:09:25.800 who believe

01:09:26.320 they have the right

01:09:26.860 to purchase children

01:09:27.780 and rent women's bodies 1.00

01:09:29.320 in the process

01:09:29.940 are today canceled.

01:09:33.240 That'll do it

01:09:33.580 for the show today.

01:09:34.060 Thanks for watching.

01:09:34.540 Thanks for listening.

01:09:35.040 Talk to you tomorrow.

01:09:35.860 Have a great day.

01:09:36.840 Godspeed.

01:09:37.160 I love you.

01:09:39.620 Yeah.

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The Matt Walsh Show - April 28, 2025

Ep. 1584 - Another Dumb “Racism” Scandal Takes Over The NFL

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