The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1586 - UK Parliament Hosts Incredibly Embarrassing Hearing Over Netflix Show “Adolescence”

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the UK Parliament holds a hearing on that Netflix adolescence show

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00:00:07.900 him will not face any criminal charges. Viral body cam footage of a woman needlessly turning

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00:03:03.860 small thing when the entire continent of Europe teeters on the verge of a blackout. We could do all these

00:03:07.900 things because, in very real terms, we are unique. We have a fighting spirit that no other nation on

00:03:13.720 the planet can match. Now, if you attended college in the last 50 years, you've probably been conditioned

00:03:18.440 to not say things like this, to not even think them. You're told that it's gaudy or, you know, a relic

00:03:24.860 of colonialism or something like that, but it also happens to be true, and every day we're reminded that

00:03:31.100 it's true. We can see right out in the open that, well, other nations are inferior to our own,

00:03:37.580 which, by the way, is how we should feel if you love your country. That's how you should feel about

00:03:41.560 other countries. Look closely enough, and you'll see that they even kind of admit it. They're

00:03:45.920 preoccupied with their own destruction. So let's start with the UK, which is allegedly one of our

00:03:51.320 closest allies. And a couple of weeks ago, you might remember, we talked about the Netflix show

00:03:56.000 Adolescence and how it's essentially taken over the entire country. Adolescence is a miniseries

00:04:02.260 in which a white 13-year-old boy named Jamie stabs a girl to death after the girl rejects his

00:04:08.220 advances. The hook, if you can call it that, is that the show blames online culture for the killer's

00:04:14.480 actions, at least to some extent. The victim had bullied the 13-year-old boy on Instagram, for example.

00:04:19.600 He'd been called an incel and so on. And the point of the show is that male rage,

00:04:24.260 so-called, is fueled by online misogyny and bullying and the manosphere, and that children

00:04:32.180 are liable to become murderers at any moment, even if they live in a loving, stable, two-parent

00:04:38.540 household. That's the message the showrunners wanted to convey, even though it flies in the

00:04:42.600 face of common sense and every data point that we have. Beyond that, there wasn't anything very

00:04:47.980 interesting about the show. The cameraman is doing more interesting things than any of the actors,

00:04:51.660 since everything supposedly shot in one take. So it was reasonable to assume that after the initial

00:04:58.640 hype died down over this miniseries, that the UK would move on pretty quickly. That's the normal

00:05:03.620 trajectory that shows like this tend to follow. And indeed, that's what many of my listeners said

00:05:09.400 would happen. I received dozens of comments on the last monologue on adolescence, where several

00:05:14.860 people who lived in Britain explained that actually the show isn't that popular over there to begin

00:05:18.780 with. And additionally, as we discussed, there was an infamous interview broadcast on the BBC where

00:05:23.720 the anchor grills a, uh, both of the anchors grill a conservative politician about the fact that she

00:05:29.640 hadn't seen the show. They were stunned for the entire interview that she had not watched it.

00:05:34.800 And no matter how much the politician tried to explain to these anchors that the show isn't real,

00:05:39.140 they kept doubling down. And when we played that footage two weeks ago, it seemed like it was

00:05:43.280 safe to assume the obsession over the show had jumped the shark too absurd to continue. Uh, everyone,

00:05:49.780 even fans of the show would, would certainly walk away slowly and find something else to fixate on.

00:05:54.140 But that has not happened in the UK instead adolescence isn't simply dominating political

00:06:00.820 discussions anymore. Now the show is being used to justify new legislation that would dramatically

00:06:05.020 curtail free speech rights in the country. Almost as if, uh, that was the point of the show all along.

00:06:10.280 In fact, the show's creators just testified in parliament to demand this new legislation. Yes, the,

00:06:17.600 the, the government held an entire hearing on a fictional TV show in which the show's writer testified

00:06:24.900 as an expert before the government's women and equalities committee. That is the very dire and hopeless

00:06:31.260 state of the, uh, so-called United Kingdom at the moment. So we'll start at the beginning of, of the

00:06:36.040 hearing when, uh, a member of parliament named Sarah Owen begins questioning Jack Thorne, who's the

00:06:43.720 creator and executive producer of adolescence. And this member of parliament is very interested in

00:06:49.380 knowing more about Jamie and why he snapped and decided to kill a girl. But, you know, there's a bit

00:06:56.140 of a snag because the politician clearly doesn't understand what the creator of the show is getting

00:07:00.580 at, which leads to this, uh, mildly amusing exchange. Watch. Um, just wanted to come back on that. So

00:07:06.520 you'd had those clear themes of where, I guess the responsibility or the, the interventions could

00:07:14.140 have happened at school or at home or, and friends, but not social media or influencers. Was that deliberate

00:07:21.980 choice not to have that kind of theme in with it? Well, I think it is a theme and I think it does run

00:07:28.340 through the whole thing. And it, it, it was, like I say, part of the sort of sphere of responsibility

00:07:34.880 for Jamie, but that came out in different chunks in different places. As a dramatist, you're always

00:07:41.080 trying to work out ways to tell a story authentically. What I meant was that it's not like a, a specific

00:07:47.160 influencer. It was the two of that relationship where he describes, for example, anybody can see

00:07:53.220 it. It wasn't the outside influence. It was the influence on social media amongst friends that was

00:07:59.000 the biggest influence. It wasn't a named influencer, for example. No, it, it, yeah, I mean, there were lots

00:08:07.880 of things that make up Jamie's complicated brain and there's lots of things, you know, if, if I was to write,

00:08:14.300 if I was to describe to you what Jamie's brain looked like, it would take me, uh, nine years to describe it

00:08:20.080 because he is a complicated mess of things as we all are. And so all these things play a role in his

00:08:27.060 head. Well, there's a couple of layers of embarrassment here. First of all, of course,

00:08:31.080 they're talking about a fake person as if he's real. Uh, he would, he would say he's, he says that

00:08:37.180 it would take him nine years to unpack the brain of a fictional character named Jamie, who because he

00:08:44.400 doesn't actually exist, does not actually have a brain or a history or emotions because he's, he doesn't,

00:08:49.500 he's not real. And for her part, the politician who apparently chairs this committee in parliament

00:08:54.020 keeps pressing for more information about this fictional person. And she's really determined to

00:09:00.440 understand what makes this character tick, you know, that they're talking about in parliament,

00:09:06.560 even though he doesn't exist. And this went on for something like two hours, by the way,

00:09:10.500 the hearing was, was full of moments like this. And as it went on, because it became clear that,

00:09:15.480 uh, Jack Thorne is especially concerned about conspiracy theories as he calls them.

00:09:20.960 And at one point in the hearing, Thorne elaborated on the term conspiracy theories. It turns out that

00:09:25.620 stop me if you've heard this one before, a conspiracy theory is something that's completely true,

00:09:30.700 but highly inconvenient to the political left. Watch. I think you've explained in, in good detail

00:09:39.860 as to the extent of the level that you did in terms of research and, and how much you wanted to get

00:09:44.500 this right. How does it feel when you hear, say, the leader of the opposition, um, quote,

00:09:51.740 what has been described as conspiracy theories around the race of Jamie being, and she said,

00:09:57.180 fundamentally changed, um, in the story of adolescence?

00:10:01.500 I think that's to do with her algorithm. And, and there are a lot of people on X and in other places

00:10:08.600 who make that claim and, and, and who have consumed the story that way. Um, uh, so yeah,

00:10:16.620 that just speaks to what she's consuming online, I think.

00:10:20.480 So that's his response when he's asked about the race swap in adolescence. He's asked about a

00:10:26.200 conservative politician who pointed out that unlike what you see on Netflix, white kids from stable

00:10:31.180 households are not stabbing, uh, very many people in the UK. That's the truth. It's kids from broken

00:10:37.840 homes, along with jihadists who are doing most of the damage. And, um, in response to that point,

00:10:42.200 which is obviously true, Thorne states that the conservative politician must be consuming the

00:10:47.120 wrong content online. And the implication of course, is that anyone who tells the truth about knife crime

00:10:51.800 in the UK and violent crime in general should be censored. You're required to think that it's, um,

00:10:58.160 young white kids from loving two parent households that are knifing everyone. And you're supposed to

00:11:03.640 ignore the literal jihadist with an Al Qaeda training manual in his backpack who murders

00:11:07.900 young girls at a dance studio. Again, this is the, uh, the state of the UK, a country that,

00:11:13.220 you know, we once had a lot in common with, but this is what they're reduced to. Uh, I want to show

00:11:18.580 one more clip from this hearing because it just kept getting more and more comical as it went on.

00:11:23.740 Eventually Jack Thorne left and he was replaced by a bunch of self-described experts and government

00:11:28.740 officials who supposedly would provide some hard evidence in support of more online censorship.

00:11:33.520 But, uh, then a funny thing happened when they were asked for evidence that misogyny is on the

00:11:39.060 rise in the UK, which is what this hearing was supposed to be all about actually misogyny.

00:11:43.800 And, uh, so they're asked for some evidence on that. They couldn't point to any objective,

00:11:49.340 verifiable information about all the young white men who are going out and killing women because of

00:11:54.480 Andrew Tate or whatever instead. And I'm not, I'm not making this up. The experts turned around

00:12:00.360 and cited the show adolescence and the testimony from Jack Thorne, which everyone had just heard

00:12:05.740 watch. I just want to jump in on a couple of points you both made. So I think you're both in

00:12:10.680 agreement that, that, um, that there seems to be a rise in this, this type of behavior in schools.

00:12:17.060 What do you think's fueling that rise? Um, well, I mean, I think we've just had a really

00:12:24.540 interesting session about a TV drama, but a very important one that I think has touched on many

00:12:31.320 of the contributory factors that we're seeing behind this rise of in misogyny in schools. I think one

00:12:36.640 of the really important themes that was touched on in the evidence we've just heard was that yes,

00:12:41.440 social media plays an important part in that. Sometimes it can be an accelerant, but there are a whole

00:12:46.600 range of other influences on children and young people that can lead to profoundly inappropriate

00:12:52.640 behavior. So social media is a really important aspect of it. So they don't have any data, actually.

00:12:58.480 Uh, they just have the show adolescence and the testimony from its executive producer,

00:13:02.960 according to the government expert that qualify that somehow qualifies as evidence in the UK time to

00:13:09.620 pass a law, eliminating free speech on the internet, I guess. But the point here is, is not to mock

00:13:14.900 the UK as entertaining as that would be. The point is that this kind of embarrassing spectacle

00:13:20.960 is, um, not very surprising for them. There aren't very many people left in that country to speak out

00:13:28.640 against this sort of thing. There are some, not many. There isn't, there isn't much of a right wing

00:13:35.040 in the UK or almost, or almost anywhere else in the Western world outside of the United States.

00:13:39.700 And if you don't believe that, look at the election that just took place in Canada after 10 years of

00:13:46.400 destroying Canada's economy and opening the borders to hordes of foreign nationals, the liberal party

00:13:51.960 was just reelected. Voters once again, handed the liberal party control of government, even after the

00:13:57.700 liberals froze the bank accounts of peaceful protesters, arrested journalists in the street, trampled old

00:14:03.060 ladies with horses, disarmed the entire population, effectively banned independent journalists from

00:14:08.320 posting their content on social media platforms. Canadians saw the government declare martial law

00:14:13.940 over a bunch of truckers who didn't want to be compelled to take an experimental shot. And they

00:14:18.640 saw all that and they said, yeah, we want more of that. And also, of course, they want more taxes so

00:14:23.220 that they can stop, uh, you know, the weather from changing. Now I'm not going to pretend to be an

00:14:27.560 expert on the ins and outs of Canadian politics. If you're interested in a more granular breakdown,

00:14:32.720 there's a Substack article from somebody named John Carter that goes into some detail about what

00:14:37.200 happened in this week's election. And here's how it begins. Quote, have you ever noticed how election

00:14:41.440 results are regularly broken down geographically, as well as by the demographic categories of age,

00:14:46.000 sex, and depending on the country, race? Yeah, we almost never see the results separated into taxpayer

00:14:51.580 versus tax eater status. It is absolutely no surprise that Ottawa voted solidly for the Liberal Party of

00:14:58.100 Canada, whose base consists of three primary groups, migrants, public sector workers, and baby boomers,

00:15:03.960 all of whom are regime client groups, and all of whom are tightly packed into the nation's capital.

00:15:09.420 Perhaps it's that it's tax season, and I'm in a grumpy mood because I just got the bad news, but

00:15:13.920 can't help but wonder, uh, about how electoral politics would change if only taxpayers were allowed

00:15:20.360 to vote. Close quote. That's a kind of a useful framework to look at what just happened in Canada,

00:15:25.960 especially as you hear a lot of people blaming Donald Trump and blaming tariffs and so on.

00:15:30.720 In Canada, very few young people can afford homes. There aren't many good jobs. The only really

00:15:36.700 viable aspect of Canadian society is the public sector, which is sustained through taxes and

00:15:43.100 borrowed money and retirees, uh, as well. The public sector employees are the ones who celebrated when

00:15:49.800 truckers were beaten by the police in Ottawa a few years ago. They resent the working class.

00:15:55.100 Their only interest is seeing their pensions vest. Meanwhile, older Canadians have made their money

00:16:02.100 and they don't seem to care about what happens to their country going forward. I mean, take a look

00:16:07.040 at this chart, which is making the rounds. It shows the most important factors in people's votes

00:16:12.980 broken out by age. It's from Abacus Data, which is a Canadian polling firm. And notice that for most

00:16:20.080 young people or that under the age of 44, if they count as all young, uh, reducing the cost of living

00:16:26.200 is the top issue. But for Canadians over the age of 60, the top issue in the whole that the country

00:16:35.460 faces, the top issue was dealing with Donald Trump. In other words, Canadian seniors are not even

00:16:44.300 pretending by and large to be interested in the internal affairs of their own country.

00:16:49.840 They don't seem to be concerned about the fact that young people are overdosing at increasing rates

00:16:54.520 or that many of them are well into their 30s, sharing tiny apartments with roommates just to

00:16:58.960 make ends meet. What they care about instead is dealing with Donald Trump, an elected official from

00:17:05.480 a different country who has not caused a single ounce of the misery that Canada has been enduring for

00:17:11.080 the past decade or more. In this country, by contrast, older voters were, were mostly concerned

00:17:18.040 about the economy in the last election. In Michigan, for example, the AARP found that 24% of older voters

00:17:23.940 cited the economy and jobs. Another 24% cited inflation as top concerns. So nearly half of these voters are

00:17:29.820 interested in things that every American should be interested in, which create, which is creating a

00:17:34.260 stable and functioning economy so that people can buy homes and raise children. But in Canada,

00:17:40.460 as in the UK, the priorities are different. And that's why these countries are spending their

00:17:44.900 time talking about Netflix shows and electing globalists who promise to send mean tweets to

00:17:50.620 Donald Trump or whatever, whatever they mean by dealing with him. It's a sobering realization,

00:17:56.920 but it's true. These countries, which are supposed to be, you know, great allies who we have a lot in

00:18:01.040 common with do not have a functioning conservative movement at all, really. One that respects the

00:18:08.400 sanctity of life from the moment of conception, one that values the importance of economic growth

00:18:13.180 for everyone, one that understands the distinction between fiction and reality. With every election

00:18:18.540 that takes place in Canada and every humiliating hearing on adolescents that the UK is subjected to,

00:18:23.960 the truth becomes more clear by the day. It's time to admit it because it's unavoidable at this

00:18:29.580 point. The future of conservatism and thus of Western civilization is in our hands and increasingly

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00:19:57.180 Okay, a bit of an abbreviated headlines today. We'll start with this. Briefly, New York Post reports,

00:20:04.220 a man arrested on suspicion of manslaughter following the death of ice hockey player Adam Johnson

00:20:08.680 has been told he will not face any charges, British prosecutors said Tuesday. Johnson played

00:20:13.740 for the Nottingham Panthers and died shortly after his neck had been sliced in a collision

00:20:18.200 with Sheffield Steelers defenseman Matt Petgrave during a game on October 28th, 2023.

00:20:24.720 A man was arrested two weeks later, and though he was not publicly identified, Petgrave himself said

00:20:29.600 in a crowdfunding appeal for legal fees that he's the subject of a police investigation.

00:20:33.200 On Tuesday, the Crown Prosecution Service decided it would not bring criminal charges

00:20:38.560 against the man arrested following what are described as a shocking and deeply unsettling

00:20:43.400 incident. So you probably remember this case. It was a pretty big deal when it happened a year

00:20:50.880 or two ago. And we'll put the footage up on the screen just for reference. That's what happened.

00:20:57.840 And the article, when you keep reading this article, it claims that the way that Adam Johnson died is

00:21:05.280 that Petgrave's skate became elevated as if it happened by some mysterious breach of the laws of

00:21:11.900 physics. No, his skate became elevated because he swung his leg up and kicked the other guy,

00:21:18.580 Adam Johnson, in the neck and sliced his throat. That's what happened.

00:21:21.280 And now he faces no criminal charges. You know, he cut a guy's throat with his skate and killed him,

00:21:28.960 and there will be no charges, which is obscene. I think I said at the time that, you know,

00:21:35.820 I don't necessarily think that Petgrave was consciously trying to kill Johnson. I do think

00:21:41.700 that he consciously decided to swing his leg up and kick him. I think because that's, you know,

00:21:46.740 when you look at the footage, that's not a natural, and I don't play hockey, I don't ice skate,

00:21:50.740 admittedly, but you don't often hear about people getting kicked in the throat when they're out on

00:21:56.380 the ice. It certainly does not look like a natural move that one would do while they're skating,

00:22:01.620 swinging their leg up above their head. You know, this isn't gymnastics.

00:22:07.620 So I think he decided to swing his leg up and kick him. I think he was trying to hurt him,

00:22:12.600 if not kill him, and that would be manslaughter. He did something, in that case,

00:22:18.480 intentionally to inflict damage on somebody else. That action ended up killing the guy.

00:22:24.140 That's like the definition of manslaughter. So pressing no criminal charges is just insane. I mean,

00:22:29.120 the guy's dead. Well, what if Petgrave had punched Johnson, which of course is something that happens

00:22:34.780 in, you know, tends to happen in hockey. But what if Petgrave had punched him and killed him?

00:22:41.040 Would there be no charges for that? I mean, a lot of people get punched every day and don't die.

00:22:46.060 On rare occasion, one punch takes somebody out. And guess what? If you delivered that punch,

00:22:50.980 even if you didn't mean to kill the person, you're going to jail. That's the way it works.

00:22:55.440 Even if you didn't mean it, because you can't just kill a person and walk free. So

00:22:59.480 I think this is ridiculous. I don't know. Is the hockey rink like a law-free zone now?

00:23:07.620 I understand that there's a certain leeway you have to give in the context of sports. There's

00:23:12.400 a lot that's done, you know, on the football field, for example, that would be felony assault

00:23:17.080 in any other context. But that's all in the context of the game itself that everybody is

00:23:23.260 willingly participating in. So if somebody was tackled in football and then landed wrong and

00:23:28.640 died, God forbid, I don't think the person that tackled them should go to jail, obviously,

00:23:32.920 because that's a total accident. It's in the context of the game. It's a legitimate act within

00:23:36.700 the game that everybody is participating in. But if a player walked up to another guy and smashed

00:23:43.380 him in the head with his helmet or something, and the guy died, then yeah, he should go to jail.

00:23:47.440 That's an act taken outside of the game meant to inflict harm. It's manslaughter. And kicking

00:23:54.040 somebody in the neck is not a legitimate hockey move. You know, it's not the same thing as like

00:24:00.500 hitting the puck and accidentally hitting somebody in the neck or something and killing them. It's just

00:24:04.560 not the same thing. So I think that this is just pretty unthinkable and ridiculous.

00:24:15.600 Okay, so we'll, I want to play this too. Police body cam footage that I've seen circulating on

00:24:21.980 social media. I think this incident, it's circulating now. This incident actually happened

00:24:27.400 several months ago. Maybe it was last summer even. And this just brings us back to the point that

00:24:33.280 police body cameras have vindicated and basically vindicated the police if, and basically killed the

00:24:43.480 BLM movement and the defund the police movement. That was never the intention when BLM was pushing

00:24:49.240 for body cameras, but that's what happened. So be careful what you wish for, you know, because now we

00:24:54.020 all see what police deal with every day. And we see how most traffic stops that escalate into something

00:25:00.700 more only escalate because the person who got pulled over went out of their way to escalate

00:25:07.180 it. And there are exceptions to that, but the exceptions are just that they're exceptions.

00:25:11.700 And that's exactly what happened here. So let's watch this.

00:25:16.400 I'm asking for a supervisor. I'm asking for your license and insurance. I'm asking for a man of a supervisor. Okay. In the meantime, I need your driver's license.

00:25:22.880 I'm asking for a supervisor. Can I see a supervisor please? You can either roll the window down or I will break it.

00:25:29.360 Are you going to provide your ID? Absolutely. Are you going to provide your ID?

00:25:35.840 Are you seeing me? Absolutely. Are you going to provide your ID?

00:25:38.260 Are you seeing me? Absolutely. Are you going to provide your ID?

00:25:42.320 What did I do wrong?

00:25:43.320 Speeding. Speeding was the reason for the traffic stop. Are you going to provide your ID?

00:25:56.320 your ID? Speeding. Speeding was the reason for the traffic stop. Are you going to provide your

00:26:03.180 ID? Are you going to provide your ID? Okay. I've asked you several times. You refused to answer.

00:26:10.120 Are you going to step out of the vehicle? Are you going to step out of the vehicle? Okay, ma'am,

00:26:14.340 you are now under arrest. You are under arrest for obstruction of official business and failing

00:26:18.760 to provide your ID. Step out of the vehicle. Step out of the vehicle or I will break the window.

00:26:26.320 Step out of the vehicle or I will break the window. Ma'am, I've told you one more time. Step out of

00:26:31.400 the vehicle or I'm going to break the window. Okay. Oh my God. Oh my God. Step out. No, I didn't do

00:26:39.740 anything wrong. Okay. I didn't even do anything wrong. Oh my God. This is crazy. Okay. So she was

00:26:48.520 going 53 and a 35. Not the worst case of speeding we've ever seen, but that's speeding. That is

00:26:57.480 definitely speeding. And the cops are going to pull you over for that every time when they set the

00:27:01.820 speed trap up, you know, that's what they're looking for. Somebody going 15 to 20 miles over

00:27:08.580 the limit. You're like, you're right in the sweet spot for what the cops are looking for when they

00:27:13.680 set up the speed trap. So you're going to get pulled over. And once you are, that's it. They got

00:27:21.680 you. You're going to get a ticket 53 to 35. You're getting a ticket. And your only recourse now is with

00:27:30.080 the judge in traffic court. So go to traffic court, hope that you get a really nice judge who's having

00:27:37.060 a good day. Uh, and that's, that's your, your only hope of avoiding, um, you know, points on your

00:27:43.780 license and whatever, you know, a serious fine arguing with the cop though is pointless and doing

00:27:50.880 what this woman did. And we see this a lot now with these body cams doing what this woman did is

00:27:56.800 just, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's sticking your finger in a socket. I mean, it's

00:28:01.960 nothing good can come of it. It's a course of action that cannot possibly work in your favor.

00:28:09.140 So she keeps asking for a supervisor, like what the hell is a supervisor going to do for you?

00:28:16.180 You think the supervisor is going to show up and just tell you that it's fine. You don't get the,

00:28:20.740 you don't, you don't have to have a ticket. You think he's going to show up and say,

00:28:24.860 what's going on here? Did you, did you pull this poor woman over for only going 17 miles over a

00:28:29.660 limit? Unacceptable, man. We apologize. Here's a $10,000 in restitution. I mean, is that how you

00:28:37.780 imagine the conversation going? It's totally delusional of course. So this woman took what

00:28:44.260 could have been just an annoying speeding ticket and turned it into an arrest and a trip to the

00:28:54.420 station and a much, much bigger problem. You know, she didn't want to be bothered with a ticket.

00:29:00.400 So instead she's bothered with a ticket plus handcuffs and also a trip to jail. And for what? Why?

00:29:10.060 I mean, why, what's the point? It's not like she's taking some kind of brave principled stand for her

00:29:17.680 rights. You know, sometimes someone could do that. If you're taking a, if you're doing something that

00:29:25.380 isn't going to work out in your favor, but you're taking a stand on principle, well, then that, that

00:29:30.480 could be brave. That's a, that's a sacrifice for the sake of the principle, but there's no principle

00:29:35.460 here. She's not standing on principle. She was speeding. I mean, you have no right to go 53 and a 35.

00:29:41.960 They got you. So then why do this? Why not just give them your ID, take the ticket and move on with

00:29:48.240 your life. It really is. What is the problem that you don't have an ID and you're trying to avoid,

00:29:55.780 because if that's the problem, well, then again, it's like being an asshole is not going to help

00:29:59.340 you. So it really is baffling, but cops deal with this nonsense every day. I mean, if you're a cop,

00:30:06.640 this is every day of your life, every day dealing with people who are absolutely determined to turn

00:30:14.120 every situation into the worst possible version of that situation. This is, this is every day of your

00:30:21.540 life. And why, you know, I think that's worth talking about. Why, how do you explain? We see these kinds

00:30:33.600 of videos all the time. You kind of gloss over it, but how do you explain this? How do you explain this

00:30:41.900 woman? How do you explain any of the thousands of body cam videos like this, where someone goes out

00:30:47.340 of their way to make everything worse, where they go down a path where there is no win, there's no

00:30:55.240 possible win for them. Um, and that's something worth talking about, but we don't talk about it.

00:31:04.660 And that's partly because once again, you know, there are uncomfortable racial dynamics at work

00:31:09.640 here. The quiet part out loud here is that when you see body cam footage of somebody turning a traffic

00:31:15.480 stop into an arrest for no reason, usually not always, usually it's not a white person.

00:31:24.280 And at least part of the reason for that is the message that's been sent to black Americans,

00:31:28.280 the message that cops are racist, that if you get pulled over, it's because you're driving while black,

00:31:33.200 um, that, that cops are involved in a racist conspiracy to oppress you and so on.

00:31:38.520 That's been the messaging. That's been the conditioning.

00:31:40.600 And it at least partly, I don't think entirely, but it partly explains this kind of hostile,

00:31:47.380 aggressive demeanor that you see in so many of these videos, even when the cop is being super

00:31:53.380 calm, reasonable, non-confrontational, when the cop is not doing anything, you know, the cop is just

00:31:59.720 enforcing the law. That's his job. So it just doesn't make any sense to be angry at him.

00:32:05.720 And I think this partly explains it, uh, the messaging and the conditioning, but, but also not

00:32:13.760 all of it doesn't explain the entire phenomenon, because if you really did think, as I've said

00:32:18.460 before, if you really did think that cops were involved in a conspiracy to, you know, oppress black

00:32:24.500 people, and they're just looking for any excuse, you know, to shoot a racial minority, if that's

00:32:30.660 actually what you believe, then you would think that you'd be, if anything, less likely to instigate

00:32:37.020 a confrontation. So I think that the, um, the messaging explanation only goes so far, but it is,

00:32:46.260 uh, something worth talking about. Okay. Now we're, um, this is a quick clip from, uh, cause we're,

00:32:53.580 we're back to Michelle Obama's podcast. This is the gift that keeps on giving. And here is Michelle

00:32:59.220 lamenting the fact that people these days always have their heads buried in their phones, uh, which,

00:33:06.780 which, which I also lament that fact. I, I, it's a very lamentable fact. I lament it. I lament it

00:33:11.620 all the time, but listen to Michelle's specific complaint. Here's why, here's why she's upset that

00:33:20.020 everyone's always looking in their phones. There are a lot of people here of all ages who are trapped

00:33:25.940 by their phones. And when you talk about us being disconnected and not talking to each other,

00:33:30.960 I, I am, I am not out in the world like a normal person anymore, but when I am, people don't even

00:33:38.240 recognize me. You know why? Because they're on their phones. Nobody is looking at each other. I could walk

00:33:45.280 right past somebody with a hat on, you know, and I'm just a black woman in a cap. Um, but that's because-

00:33:52.160 I don't, I don't know. No, I've done it. I don't know about that. I have done it. I fly commercial.

00:33:57.580 I am out there with the people and folks are not paying attention. I'm, I'm- I fly commercial.

00:34:05.260 So, uh, okay. Okay. Yes. This is the great tragedy of our collective screen addiction.

00:34:14.680 You know, the, I thought, I thought the tragedy of our screen addiction, which I, again, I do believe

00:34:20.800 is tragic. And I, I realized the irony of saying that while you're watching this on a screen,

00:34:26.260 but I'm not saying that we should never watch things on screens. I'm saying that, um, you know,

00:34:32.080 the average American being glued to a screen 12 hours a day or whatever we're up to now, uh, that's

00:34:38.380 the problem. There are some things worth watching. There are some, there are some valid reasons to be

00:34:43.520 glued to a screen like this show. That's a good reason, but that's only 45 minutes to an hour a

00:34:48.200 day. So, you know, we could cut, cut out the rest of it pretty much. So I thought that the real tragedy

00:34:55.020 with everyone being glued to screens is that we're, we're missing out on life. We're, we're missing out

00:35:02.840 on our, our physical existence, that there's so much of our, of the world, the actual three-dimensional

00:35:09.740 world that we're all moving around in that we're missing. Uh, and, and there's so many opportunities

00:35:17.140 to like engage with other human beings who are around us. And we're missing that because we're

00:35:22.960 constantly looking at the screens. I thought that was the tragedy, but the real tragedy is that we

00:35:28.160 aren't paying attention to Michelle Obama. You know, think of all the things that you might miss.

00:35:34.120 If you're glued to your phone, you might miss Michelle Obama. That's the main, that's the only,

00:35:37.640 that's the, that's the most important thing. You might miss Michelle Obama walking by. I personally

00:35:44.020 shudder to think of all the Michelle Obama sightings that I've missed out on because I've been looking

00:35:48.660 at Twitter or whatever, which is really, I mean, this is some high level cope from Michelle Obama.

00:35:57.100 Uh, you know, if she's walking around and no fans come up to her, it's because, oh, you know,

00:36:03.420 I guess they were all on their phones. If only they weren't on their phones, they would, I feel

00:36:07.920 sorry for them. Really. I feel sorry for all those people who, who would have loved to come up and tell

00:36:12.680 me what a fan they are, but they were on their phone. So they didn't see me. And this is a theme

00:36:19.860 that comes up with Michelle quite a bit. She's complained many times, uh, even going, going,

00:36:27.520 going back many years, going back to when she was, uh, to when she was first lady, she's complained

00:36:32.300 many times about not being recognized in public. She told a story once about somebody cutting in

00:36:38.860 front of her in line somewhere because they didn't know who she was. There was another story. If I

00:36:44.920 remember correctly about being at a store and somebody thought she was an employee allegedly,

00:36:50.300 which I don't really buy, but that's what she says. So this comes up often enough that it's

00:36:55.600 obviously a real hangup for Michelle. And she, she deeply desires to be recognized,

00:37:02.220 to be lavished with praise in public, which is pretty shocking actually, because she's been in

00:37:10.840 public for, you know, almost 20 years. She's been in the public eye. She's been a very famous person

00:37:16.440 for almost 20 years and to be in it for that long and still not satisfied, still desiring public

00:37:25.980 recognition and fame, you know, to be like walking down the street and upset that more people aren't

00:37:33.980 recognizing you rather than relieved that you're able to walk down the street one time without

00:37:37.840 anyone like talking to you. Uh, that's, that's really pathetic. She should relish every time she's

00:37:45.520 able to walk down the street without anyone noticing her. And instead she takes it personally

00:37:50.180 because she really wants the attention. She desperately needs it. She's still, she's still,

00:37:56.280 despite being extremely famous for 20 years, she still has not had her fill of it. Uh, she,

00:38:02.880 she needs to be recognized and affirmed as they say. Um, because this is what you find this,

00:38:10.560 this kind of, this obsession with affirmation is, uh, we hear it a lot from the trans activists, but,

00:38:16.800 uh, it's, it's not just them. It's not just trans people. It's also Michelle Obama, although,

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00:40:14.260 Well, despite what my critics may claim, I think I am actually a good dad. I love my kids. I make

00:40:27.900 sacrifices for them. I sometimes even subject myself to unspeakable tortures for their sake.

00:40:33.380 And that's what I did over the weekend when I took some of the kids to go see the 20th anniversary

00:40:37.140 re-release of Star Wars Revenge of the Sith in theaters. I hadn't seen the film since it first came out,

00:40:43.120 and my initial experience with the movie was such that I had no desire to ever experience it again,

00:40:48.700 but I didn't count on one day having children of my own who somehow would become diehard Star Wars fans.

00:40:55.020 I don't know how this happened. I'm not a Star Wars fan. I didn't pass this fandom down to them.

00:40:59.260 I don't come from a Star Wars family. My own dad was not a Star Wars fan. He was more of a Star Trek guy.

00:41:04.620 That never really clicked with me either. I have no affinity for any sci-fi franchise with the word

00:41:08.820 star in the title. I am, however, a fan of the actual stars.

00:41:13.120 Why watch Star Wars when you can look up at the stars at night and see the great cosmic pageant

00:41:19.260 that God himself has written, produced, and directed for us? That's what I've tried to tell

00:41:23.160 my kids, to no avail. I gave this speech to my son once, and he said, yeah, but God didn't make

00:41:28.000 lightsabers. And I said, okay, good point, but don't talk back. You're grounded. And in any case,

00:41:34.300 whether through some sort of genetic anomaly or more likely through pro-Star Wars brainwashing

00:41:39.260 from their mother, who my kids are now Star Wars fans, and they really wanted to see the third film

00:41:45.800 in the prequel series in theaters, which has just been re-released. And so I agreed. And after suffering

00:41:53.300 again through the entire nine-hour runtime or what felt like it, I can confidently say that Revenge of

00:42:00.420 the Sith is even worse than I remember, like a lot worse. I remember it as a boring, miserable film,

00:42:10.040 but I guess I had blocked out many of the details subconsciously attempting to save myself from

00:42:14.440 reliving the trauma. This movie is outrageously, offensively bad. You could, and I'm not, I don't

00:42:21.120 just, I'm not saying this for effect. You could make a case that it's like the worst film ever made.

00:42:26.120 And sad to say, it's competing with more than one other Star Wars title for the top of that list.

00:42:33.200 Everything about it is bad, except the score. The score is pretty good, but not enough to rescue

00:42:38.320 the film. If John Williams made a score for a video of a dog taking a dump, it would be slightly more

00:42:44.080 entertaining than it would have been without the score, but it would still be a dog taking a dump.

00:42:48.220 And this film is the cinematic equivalent of that. First of all, as many people have pointed out over

00:42:54.080 the years, but I must reiterate, the dialogue is atrocious. George Lucas, it would seem, has never

00:43:00.780 heard humans speak. He writes dialogue like I imagine an alien would write dialogue if the only

00:43:07.200 thing he knew about the human race he learned by watching daytime soap operas. There is not one moment

00:43:12.860 where the script reaches even like a C grade. It is the worst dialogue I've ever heard in a mainstream

00:43:19.740 Hollywood film. It is shockingly bad. Last summer, my kids used one of our phones to make a movie as

00:43:26.400 they called it, where they pretended to be pirates or something. And the dialogue, the dialogue in their

00:43:32.780 three minute pirate movie was better than anything George Lucas came up with. So just to give one

00:43:39.740 infamous example in a scene early in the film, Anakin played with the charisma of a metal folding chair

00:43:45.680 by Hayden Christensen goes up to Padme played by Natalie Portman and says, you are so beautiful.

00:43:53.020 And then Padme responds, that's because I'm so in love to which Anakin says, no, it's because I'm so

00:44:01.140 in love with you. That is actual dialogue in this movie. It commits every sin of bad script writing.

00:44:09.400 It is clunky. It's on the nose. It doesn't sound natural at all. Humans do not speak this way.

00:44:13.620 Even humans in galaxies far, far away, unless they're living on planet cheeseball in the lame

00:44:18.380 dork galaxy, this is not how humans or any other species of sentient life forms speak or would speak.

00:44:24.500 One of the most basic principles also of script writing is to show, don't tell. This is script

00:44:28.260 writing one on one. The absolute worst way to convey a character's emotions is just have him say it.

00:44:33.760 So a clever writer or even just a professional one knows how to bring us into the character's mind

00:44:38.060 without having him broadcast it. And so if you're telling us that, that if you're trying to tell us that

00:44:42.500 Anakin thinks Padme is beautiful and Padme is so in love, there are like a million different scenes

00:44:47.020 that any decently creative and literate person could come up with that get that message across.

00:44:52.460 Instead, George Lucas just writes on the page and then Anakin says, you're beautiful. And Padme says,

00:44:58.580 I'm so in love. And Anakin says, no, I'm in love. And Padme says, no, I'm in love. And then they kiss.

00:45:04.140 And then after they kiss, they both say at the same time, I'm in love. And this way,

00:45:08.360 the audience will understand that they're in love. I mean, that's, that's literally how the script

00:45:12.880 was probably written. It was written like somebody was transcribing the off the cuff

00:45:16.320 ramblings of a five-year-old. The entire movie is like this. There is not one line of dialogue

00:45:20.860 that sounds authentic, much less clever. And to make matters worse, the acting is uniformly bad,

00:45:26.560 in some cases, grotesquely bad. Now, granted, the actors were given the impossible task of delivering

00:45:31.340 George Lucas dialogue, which is the modern film industry equivalent of like pulling the sword from the

00:45:35.780 stone. There may be some actor out there in the world who can make this crap sound good, but he's

00:45:41.020 never stepped forward. His existence is only a legend. Maybe Daniel Day-Lewis could do it. I'm not

00:45:45.840 sure. But I do know that Hayden Christensen can't. Neither can Natalie Portman, Ewan McGregor,

00:45:50.500 Samuel L. Jackson, who are all terrible in this film. Even R2-D2's performance fell flat and uninspired.

00:45:58.260 Reportedly, I read this, that George Lucas wanted to cast Tupac in the role that ultimately went to

00:46:03.920 Samuel L. Jackson, which makes Tupac's death perhaps a blessing in disguise. At least he was

00:46:08.920 saved from the embarrassment of being in this movie. So we've established that the acting and dialogue

00:46:13.560 were terrible. Many apologists for the film, and I've heard this just since yesterday, because I

00:46:18.800 tweeted about this, and a lot of people were very upset, as you would expect, that I thought the movie

00:46:22.520 was bad. But what I found is that a lot of people were conceding both points, but then claiming that

00:46:30.120 the movie is still good. Now, of course, saying that a movie has bad acting and bad dialogue but

00:46:35.400 is still good is like if you ask someone their opinion of the local Italian joint, and they say,

00:46:41.540 well, the customer service is terrible and the food tastes bad, but overall, it's actually a great

00:46:45.620 restaurant. By definition, it cannot be a great food service establishment if it fails in the areas

00:46:51.520 of both food and service. And a film cannot be good if it's poorly written and poorly performed.

00:46:56.860 What's left to make it good? What could possibly rescue a film if both the guy who wrote it and the

00:47:03.080 guys who acted in it have failed in their jobs? Now, you might want to say, well, the acting sucks

00:47:07.960 and the script sucks, but at least the action is good. I would submit that a poorly written and

00:47:12.020 poorly performed film with good action is still on balance a bad film. But as it happens, this movie

00:47:16.040 doesn't have good action scenes. The action scenes are long and busy and lots of things happen in

00:47:20.460 them, but they are not good. I mean, the fight choreography is terrible. It's clumsy and

00:47:27.220 nonsensical and uninspired. Many of the Jedis who are supposed to be like intergalactic ninjas,

00:47:32.100 like the karate kids of the cosmos or whatever, have shockingly bad reflexes. I mean, Revenge of the

00:47:37.680 Sith features some of the slowest fight scenes I've ever seen. There's a scene where Emperor Ovaltine or

00:47:44.800 whatever his name is, is who I guess is not an emperor yet in this, but he fights off a group of

00:47:50.000 Jedis who came to apprehend him. And the actor who played Ovaltine was in his mid-60s and he moves

00:47:57.380 like it. And yet, despite swinging the lightsaber with all the speed and vigor of a retiree playing

00:48:02.340 softball, he still easily dispatches like multiple Jedi warriors who are supposed to be, you know, the

00:48:07.980 greatest warriors in the universe. And just with a casual, you know, flick of the lightsaber,

00:48:16.140 they're dead. That's it. And the fight scenes are also funny because they use stunt doubles or CGI to

00:48:21.320 have the Jedis do flips and random like mid-air 360 corkscrews like Simone Biles for no obvious

00:48:27.120 strategic reason. But for the rest of the time, they have the actual actors, I guess, doing the moves.

00:48:31.960 So we're treated to the spectacle of fighters who can jump and flip like Olympic gymnasts. But when

00:48:38.300 they're not jumping, they move like these clumsy old dudes. So the action isn't good. Script isn't

00:48:44.460 good. You know, acting isn't good. What's left? The story? Can we possibly say that although the

00:48:50.400 acting is bad, the dialogue's bad, the action's bad, at least the story was good? Well, no, we can't.

00:48:54.500 Because unfortunately, this ship hit multiple massive narrative icebergs so that by the end of the

00:49:01.180 the end, the thing was so riddled with holes that it could just barely stay afloat. So let me give

00:49:06.660 you just two examples, both from the end of the movie. In the climactic battle sequence between

00:49:12.860 Anakin and Obi-Wan Kenobi, which takes place on a lava planet for some reason, I don't remember why

00:49:18.820 they went to a lava planet. Maybe there was a good reason. Okay, why would anyone go to a lava planet

00:49:26.620 if there are thousands of planets and you can go to any of them faster than the speed of light?

00:49:31.620 Why would you ever choose the lava planet for any activity? What possible activity? Why would you

00:49:38.580 ever go to it? Why would anything ever happen? Is it because Anakin was evil? So when you turn evil,

00:49:44.460 you suddenly develop an affinity for lava? You know, yeah, that is it. That's George Lucas's

00:49:48.960 writing for you. Well, he's evil, so he must like lava. Anyway, so they were on the lava planet fighting

00:49:54.840 and they were leaping from one piece of floating debris to the next because that's how it works,

00:49:58.440 right? Never mind the fact that if you jumped onto a piece of metal that was floating in lava,

00:50:02.580 you would quickly burn to death. But that's not the point. The point is that this scene ends with

00:50:05.860 Obi-Wan Kenobi jumping off of one of the lava rafts and onto a gently sloping hill. And he turns back

00:50:10.700 to Anakin, who's still floating on the lava and says, it's over. I have the higher ground. The fact

00:50:16.060 that Obi-Wan Kenobi is slightly elevated over Anakin is supposed to somehow mean that he automatically

00:50:20.300 wins the fight. Except that Anakin just five seconds earlier had leapt like 30 feet in the air with

00:50:26.460 effortless ease. So even if the higher ground is decisive, he could easily just jump higher than

00:50:31.660 Obi-Wan Kenobi was standing. Or he could walk up the hill and continue fighting. This is a wide hill.

00:50:36.940 Anakin could jump to any spot on the hill where his opponent is not standing. Or he could float down

00:50:41.900 a ways and jump onto a different hill and then continue the fight. There is no reason why Obi-Wan

00:50:46.880 Kenobi standing on a hill should have ended the fight. Unless Anakin did the one thing he decided

00:50:51.280 to do, which was to jump directly over Obi-Wan's head so he could just casually reach up and cut

00:50:55.720 his legs off. And that's how it ends. That's a whole sequence with Anakin just presenting his legs to be

00:51:01.940 cut off. Here you go. It made no sense. Also, there's this problem. This is the last thing.

00:51:06.960 The whole reason that Anakin turns to the dark side is because he had his visions that his wife,

00:51:11.740 Padme, was going to die. Ovaltine promises him that if he goes to the dark side, he can stop his wife

00:51:16.720 from dying. Which, by the way, is not a bad concept. That idea is not a bad idea.

00:51:22.500 And then right before the final battle, Anakin seemingly chokes her to death himself.

00:51:26.820 And this could work in a tragic sense. He turned to the dark side to save his wife,

00:51:29.940 but then he ended up killing her. Except the problem is that for some reason,

00:51:32.920 we learn in the next scene that he didn't kill his wife. The doctors tell us that his wife did

00:51:36.160 not sustain any physical damage at all, yet she was still dying of a broken heart or something.

00:51:40.900 So rather than having the tragic ending of Anakin killing the woman who he was supposedly trying to

00:51:44.920 protect, for some reason, Lucas pulls the punch so that the whole choking incident was irrelevant.

00:51:50.200 And now we have Padme giving up on life because her lame goth boyfriend turned evil.

00:51:55.240 So instead of her dying a tragic death, she turns out to be a selfish coward who's not motivated to

00:52:00.020 live for the two children she just gave birth to. And then we cut to the next scene where Darth

00:52:03.840 Vader finds out that Padme died and then throws his hands in the air and shouts, no.

00:52:07.960 More atrocious writing from George Lucas. I mean, there were dozens of potentially profound

00:52:11.700 and interesting ways to have this character respond to this news. Instead, Lucas beats you

00:52:15.540 over the head with the cliche sledgehammer, literally having a character throw his arms

00:52:20.000 in the air and shout, no. I've never seen anyone do that in real life ever in my life. It just doesn't

00:52:24.660 happen. So anyway, the point is at this point, the promise that Ovaltine made to Vader has been

00:52:29.260 revealed to be a lie. So why does Vader stay loyal to him? There's no reason. The entire narrative

00:52:33.700 motivation for this character's transformation was yanked away at the last minute. And there's no attempt

00:52:38.080 to deal with that problem at all. So the acting is bad. The script is bad. The action's bad. The

00:52:42.220 story's bad. What can this movie hang its hat on? We can't even give it marks for tone because tonally

00:52:47.760 the film's also a disaster. It's written and acted like a campy, cheesy comedy. It has old guys doing

00:52:53.220 backflips with laser swords. But at the same time, George Lucas wants it to be like this dark

00:52:58.060 operatic masterpiece. He even has Anakin slaughter a whole room full of children.

00:53:03.880 No, I have no issue with your villain doing something heinous, but you can't have a campy,

00:53:08.820 cheesy movie that's also dark and also features the mass murder of kids. Like all of those notes

00:53:16.760 together make not for a symphony, but for a hodgepodge of noise. If anything, it sounds more

00:53:22.940 like the orchestra warming their instruments up before the performance, which is maybe the best

00:53:28.660 analogy for this film. Because despite being one of the worst movies ever made, it does maybe have

00:53:34.600 the potential to have been pretty good. It has some good ideas, at least. It just needed a new script,

00:53:41.060 different actors, and a better director. So maybe it didn't have potential after all.

00:53:47.620 Anyway, my kids liked it. So, but still, Revenge of the Sith is today canceled,

00:53:54.840 along with the entire Star Wars franchise, needless to say. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks

00:54:01.760 for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - April 30, 2025

Ep. 1586 - UK Parliament Hosts Incredibly Embarrassing Hearing Over Netflix Show “Adolescence”

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