The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1587 - Democrats Rallied Around A Dangerous Criminal Alien. Now They're Paying The Price.

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, more revelations about that illegal alien Maryland man that

00:00:04.300 Democrats have turned into a martyr. It turns out that this guy's an even bigger scumbag,

00:00:08.020 allegedly, than we initially thought. I've got the details. Also, Tim Walls brags about his

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00:02:07.060 You know, it's easy to criticize the media these days, particularly if you're a conservative. Every

00:02:11.660 day, if not every hour, there's a new example of media incompetence or corruption that we could spend

00:02:16.500 all day talking about. But today, we need to take a different approach. Today, it's important to

00:02:21.440 praise the news media, specifically the esteemed outlet known as Reuters. And that's because,

00:02:26.920 contrary to their reputation as one of the least credible news organizations on the planet,

00:02:30.660 this week, Reuters managed to do some really quality reporting. Credit where credit's due.

00:02:36.620 They shot exclusive and highly newsworthy footage that, for one reason or another,

00:02:41.380 nobody else was able to obtain. Unfortunately, this Pulitzer-worthy footage doesn't have any

00:02:46.460 audio, but we'll put it up on the screen right now. And you can see it. If you're watching

00:02:50.420 the audio podcast, the footage is taken from a drone that was hovering above the courtyard at

00:02:56.360 Blue Bonnet Immigrant Detention Center in the small town of Anson, Texas, which is about 200 miles

00:03:03.020 west of Dallas. The footage is from April 28th. And as the drone flies overhead, 31 inmates join hands,

00:03:11.020 and they start forming letters with their bodies. And within a few seconds, it's clear that they're

00:03:14.920 spelling out the distress signal, SOS. And to their credit, it's a pretty convincing performance,

00:03:20.580 with the exception of the three people at the top of the S. You can see pretty clearly in this shot.

00:03:26.880 I don't know what's going on there. It's, you know, everyone else is in position.

00:03:30.760 All the other illegal aliens are doing exactly what they rehearsed in their cell. They spent hours

00:03:35.340 rehearsing this together. What else do you have to do when you're in prison? But these three illegal aliens

00:03:40.500 at the top of the S either didn't get the memo or, you know, they're lazy and slow. Either way,

00:03:45.700 regardless of your politics, we can all agree that those three inmates should be deported first.

00:03:51.000 In the meantime, it's probably worth asking exactly how Reuters knew there'd be a good idea

00:03:56.500 to position a drone and a small airplane directly above the courtyard of this detention facility at

00:04:02.500 that precise moment. I mean, it's not easy to fly drones for very long. They have batteries that run

00:04:08.280 out. Planes are pretty expensive. The last time I checked, you're not just going to fly a plane

00:04:12.620 around indefinitely. So how exactly was that coordinated? For whatever reason, Reuters doesn't

00:04:18.520 seem to want to explain that. Instead, here's what Reuters wrote. Quote,

00:04:22.820 detainees at the Blue Bonnet Immigrant Detention Center in Anson, Texas,

00:04:26.660 sent the outside world a message this week. SOS. With a Reuters drone flying nearby,

00:04:32.700 31 men formed the letters in the dirt of the facility on Monday. 10 days earlier,

00:04:37.080 dozens of Venezuelan detainees at the center were given notices by immigration officials that

00:04:41.920 alleged that they were members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua and subject to deportation

00:04:47.200 under a wartime law. Close quote. Now, evidently, these inmates are worried that they'll be deported

00:04:52.740 to a maximum security prison in El Salvador. So to prevent that outcome, they're telling Reuters that

00:04:58.140 they're not actually gang members. And they're also doing these ballet performances in the courtyard

00:05:03.240 with Reuters acting as their videographer. Now, to be clear, there's no allegation in this story

00:05:08.600 that these inmates are being mistreated in any way in the detention center. Their sole concern is that

00:05:15.240 they might be deported from this country, where they have no right to be, and sent to their home

00:05:19.360 country. So this is probably the least sympathetic SOS in the history of SOSs. And we're not talking

00:05:25.820 about a bunch of innocent people going down with the Titanic or something. This isn't Tom Cruise and

00:05:31.020 Castaway. These are people who, at a minimum, do not belong inside this country's borders. At a

00:05:36.460 minimum. But to be fair to these inmates, you can see why they might think that this would work.

00:05:41.620 And that's because for the past several weeks, as we've discussed, Democrats have fallen over

00:05:46.140 themselves in defense of a so-called Maryland man who they say was wrongly deported to El Salvador

00:05:51.740 without sufficient due process. And this individual, whose name is Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a name you've

00:05:56.420 heard many times by now, is a 29-year-old Salvadoran and a suspected member of the gang MS-13.

00:06:03.920 And he was deported to El Salvador's terrorist confinement center for two reasons. First of

00:06:07.620 all, and most importantly, he didn't have a legal right to be in this country. And secondly,

00:06:12.100 there was a lot of evidence that he belonged to MS-13, including the fact that police found him

00:06:16.200 hanging out with two MS-13 gang members in a Home Depot parking lot while he was wearing gang clothing.

00:06:21.440 Specifically, he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes,

00:06:26.120 ears, and mouth of the presidents on the separate denominations, which is, you know, how they

00:06:31.920 differentiate themselves in this gang. It's not something that you wear as just like a normal

00:06:36.140 person. Nevertheless, several prominent members of the Democrat Party, including Maryland Senator

00:06:41.080 Chris Van Hollen, declared that Garcia was somehow wrongly deported and belonged in the United States.

00:06:46.700 Now, to the extent that this argument makes any sense, it hinges on the idea that Garcia

00:06:51.760 was denied due process. The Democrats are saying that the Trump administration didn't make any

00:06:57.660 effort to verify that this guy was in the country illegally, and therefore, they could, you know,

00:07:02.740 by the precedent they've set, we're being told, they could deport anyone to El Salvador if they

00:07:08.040 wanted, even an American citizen. They could come into your house right now and just take you to El

00:07:12.180 Salvador. Now, in order to buy that logic, you need to ignore the fact that an immigration judge,

00:07:17.560 along with an appellate immigration review board, each ruled that there was, quote, sufficient evidence

00:07:23.020 to support Mr. Abrego Garcia's gang membership. Additionally, you'd have to ignore the fact that

00:07:27.900 Garcia admitted in court documents that he entered the country illegal. In other words,

00:07:32.520 if you ignore all of the due process that Garcia received, then sure, he didn't receive due process.

00:07:37.960 Now, when Democrats went all in on defending Garcia, they made the calculation that, you know,

00:07:46.120 they could find a way to spin all this. They determined that they could convince a lot of

00:07:51.000 people that, for whatever reason, this guy is really a martyr. And to that end, swarms of Democrats

00:07:55.500 flew to El Salvador to spend time with him. They sent a bunch of lawmakers to El Salvador to publicly

00:08:00.200 sympathize with a suspected gang member, because that's the kind of person they idolize. In fact,

00:08:05.220 one of those Democrats, Democrat Congressman Maxwell Alejandro Frost of Florida, once wrote on social

00:08:12.880 media, quote, effing with my game, my gang going to get you spilled, which in fairness is at least

00:08:19.720 more literate and coherent than, you know, anything Jasmine Crockett has ever said. Now, for Democrats,

00:08:24.960 the strategic mistake they made here was obvious, which is that, you know, usually when the left does

00:08:32.320 the hagiography routine starts canonizing one of these violent criminals, they do it after the

00:08:39.280 criminal is dead. And, you know, it's a lot cleaner that way, because a dead person isn't capable of

00:08:44.560 causing you any further embarrassment. It's also easier for people to sympathize with a dead person,

00:08:50.040 because a dead person isn't a potential threat to their communities. Now, obviously, a lot of the

00:08:55.020 people who mourned George Floyd would not have been happy if he'd somehow been resurrected from the

00:09:00.140 dead and moved in next door, along with his bags of meth and fentanyl and his fake $20 bills. But

00:09:05.880 in this case, Democrats abandoned their typical game plan. They tried to make a martyr out of a

00:09:12.340 criminal who is still alive. It was a major political gamble and one that was destined to backfire. And

00:09:20.640 indeed, that's exactly what's happening. Now, we've already talked about the 2021 domestic violence

00:09:26.960 accusation against Garcia that that was made by his wife, a woman named Jennifer Vasquez Sora.

00:09:34.180 Sora didn't show up in court to pursue the case. So the charges were dropped. But in her written

00:09:39.220 accusations, Sora claimed that Garcia had grabbed and beaten her. Quote, at this point, I'm afraid to

00:09:45.060 be close to him. I have multiple photos slash videos of how violent he can be and all the bruises he's left

00:09:50.700 on me. Now, at the time, to the extent Democrats could defend this, they pointed to the fact that,

00:09:56.140 you know, nothing was ever proven in a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt, where they made

00:10:00.200 procedural arguments about how in this country, you know, even the worst offenders are entitled to

00:10:04.900 due process, even though Garcia received due process. The one thing they didn't say was believe

00:10:11.040 all women. Instead, they suggested that perhaps this was just a spur of the moment complaint and

00:10:16.080 it didn't really reflect the true character of this alleged gang member. For her part,

00:10:20.700 Representative Pramila Jayapal of Seattle stated that Garcia's case is jaw-dropping and a miscarriage

00:10:27.580 of justice. She said that the Trump administration should be deeply ashamed of the pain and terror

00:10:32.980 that we're putting innocent people and their families through. In other words, she's saying Garcia

00:10:37.920 is innocent and that he's being kidnapped by the White House. The implication, of course, is that his

00:10:42.680 wife is lying in these papers and that we should feel sorry for Garcia. And that's what Democrats

00:10:49.160 went with because in their eyes, you know, it's still 2017. They think that people still respond to

00:10:53.440 this kind of emotional blackmail, even when they're defending some of the worst people on the planet.

00:10:58.900 Now, one of the many problems with the strategy is that inevitably more information about Garcia

00:11:04.240 would come out. And with every passing day, it gets more and more comical and pathetic to watch

00:11:10.980 Democrats stand by him. Indeed, Fox has just obtained yet another complaint by Garcia's wife.

00:11:18.580 So this is separate from the one that we already knew about. This is an application for a protective

00:11:24.280 order from 2020. We'll put this up on the screen. This is the guy that Democrats have rallied around,

00:11:29.920 made him a saint. As you can see, Garcia's wife alleges that he committed various acts of abuse,

00:11:35.040 including kicking, slapping, shoving, mental injury of a child, and detaining against will.

00:11:41.740 As Fox reports, quote, the forum said Abrego Garcia had threatened her and she wrote, quote,

00:11:46.760 I also have a recording that he told my ex-mother-in-law that even if he kills me,

00:11:51.280 no one can do anything to him. So to be clear, the allegation is that Garcia threatened that he could

00:11:57.500 murder his wife and get away with it. And why was he saying get away with it? What does it mean

00:12:03.460 that no one can do anything about it? Is he making reference to his gang ties? Possibly.

00:12:09.380 The document also alleges that his wife accused him of verbal and physical abuse against her and

00:12:13.560 mental abuse against her children. In December 2019, he allegedly grabbed her hair in the car and

00:12:18.680 dragged her out of the car, leaving her in the street. She wrote that he also broke her son's

00:12:22.960 tablet, broke doors in the house, pushing her against the wall, broke a phone and a television,

00:12:27.440 and damaged the walls that same spring, close quote. Now, Garcia's wife eventually requested to

00:12:33.560 have this protection order rescinded so that he could take part in her son's birthday and that he,

00:12:38.200 quote, also agreed to continue counseling. And if not, he's willing to sign divorce papers.

00:12:44.720 From these documents, at a minimum, it's clear that Garcia's wife did not file for the protective

00:12:51.040 order in 2021 as some sort of spur of the moment overreaction. She was begging the courts for years

00:12:59.240 to protect her from this psychopath, a psychopath who, according to Democrats, is innocent to a jaw

00:13:06.040 dropping degree. But again, the story does not end there. It turns out that when you're dealing with

00:13:12.320 a complete scumbag, there's more news every day and none of it is good. So we'll put this document

00:13:18.840 up on the screen. This is a document from a court case in which Garcia's wife sought to obtain custody

00:13:24.400 of the couple's two children. It was obtained by the New York Post. And again, this is new to us,

00:13:30.140 new information being reported. And specifically, this is an affidavit from the ex of Garcia's wife,

00:13:36.560 a man named Edwin Ramos. As you can see, he writes, quote, she is dating a gang member.

00:13:43.600 Quote, Ramos went on to claim that he feared for his children's lives, alleging that Shora

00:13:47.120 had tried to kill herself and had left the kids with an 11-year-old babysitter,

00:13:51.840 according to the August 2018 documents. Now, again, if you're a Democrat in Congress,

00:13:58.320 you might think that you can spin this one too. And Republicans are certainly hoping that they'll

00:14:02.740 try. Maybe we'll get a statement from Pramila Jayapal explaining that Ramos and Garcia's wife

00:14:07.600 were involved in a conspiracy to defame Garcia, stretching back several years. Maybe Democrats

00:14:14.380 will explain that these two people, you know, cooked up the accusation that Garcia was in a gang

00:14:18.260 and then lured him to a Home Depot parking lot with other MS-13 members and convinced him to wear gang

00:14:24.000 clothing. And that's basically their only option at this point, short of just cutting the ripcord and

00:14:29.020 abandoning this whole narrative before it gets even worse. As you can tell from the steady drip of

00:14:33.620 documents like this, it's extremely likely that we've still only seen the tip of the iceberg.

00:14:38.320 The more we learn, the more that this guy appears to be an inveterate scumbag. So to recap,

00:14:46.480 he never had any legal right to be here. The police have reason to think he's a member of a violent

00:14:50.920 gang. Several judges agreed with them. And his wife repeatedly alleged, repeatedly over years,

00:14:58.260 that he beat her and terrorized his children. And the ex corroborates many of these claims.

00:15:05.000 This is the man that 100 days into Donald Trump's second term, Democrats have decided to glorify.

00:15:10.900 This is the kind of injustice that Reuters is worried about, which is why they're currently

00:15:15.200 sending drones and planes to fly over immigrant detention centers. Now, at this point, we can be

00:15:20.400 pretty sure that Democrats will probably start to slowly slink away from this whole thing if they

00:15:25.940 haven't already. In fact, there are currently some reports that Hakeem Jeffries, Democrats' leader in

00:15:30.320 the House is privately telling members of his party to stop going to El Salvador. And if that's true,

00:15:35.040 it's probably the first intelligent thing that Hakeem Jeffries has done in his entire life.

00:15:39.740 After all, just imagine how this would play out if Reuters and these Democrat lawmakers were to succeed

00:15:47.460 in their mission. That's actually the worst thing that could happen to them now,

00:15:51.960 is that they succeed. Like, what happens if Democrats get their way and Garcia is let back into the country

00:15:58.940 and gets out without any bond because of some bitter California judge who hates this country and

00:16:05.020 never had any children to take care of? And then he proceeds, after that point, to kill his wife and child.

00:16:11.960 I mean, based on these documents, that's certainly not outside the realm of possibility.

00:16:15.920 It's the kind of thing that inevitably happens when you allow violent thugs into your country.

00:16:20.020 How exactly would Democrats spin that one? We might soon find out, assuming this latest

00:16:25.580 propaganda effort by Reuters is successful. I mean, in no uncertain terms, Democrats have tied

00:16:30.460 their political futures to this low life. And now all we have to do is block the exits and not let them

00:16:38.700 back away like, you know, Homer Simpson into the bushes. They own this. Whatever Kilmar Garcia has done

00:16:45.780 in the past or does in the future, and whatever thousands of other gang members like him have done

00:16:51.020 in the past or do in the future, the Democrats have endorsed it. They could not have been any clearer

00:16:56.380 about their priorities in the first 100 days of Trump's second term. They are wedded to violence

00:17:01.860 and terror and the destruction of the country. And we can't let anyone ever forget it.

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00:18:11.880 episode. All right. Late show is late today. Again, not my fault for once. For once. Usually it is,

00:18:18.260 but this time it isn't. I flew to an undisclosed location earlier this week to go do Tucker Carlson's

00:18:23.840 show. That episode is out now. And I really enjoyed the conversation. We covered a wide range of topics.

00:18:30.340 I thought it was a lot of fun. I appreciated Tucker having me on. Naturally, of course,

00:18:34.820 we talked about, you know, like a dozen different topics over the course of two hours, two and a

00:18:38.720 half hours, whatever it was. The thing that people are hyper-focused on, of course, is the relatively

00:18:42.700 brief part of the conversation that had to do with Israel and where I said, well, you've heard me say,

00:18:47.760 if you listen to the show, you've heard me say plenty of times before that I'm not focused on other

00:18:52.340 countries. I only care about my own. You know my take on foreign aid. It's all the stuff that you've heard.

00:18:58.020 Uh, but, and we actually have a couple of clips. We'll play in a few minutes,

00:19:02.400 but you should check out the, um, check out the interview. Uh, although that's not why I'm late.

00:19:09.040 I'm late because on the flight home, our plane, uh, lost cabin pressure, or there was a, there was,

00:19:15.620 they were having a cabin pressure issue is what I think the way they phrased it.

00:19:18.780 And so we had to descend down to 10,000 feet or lower than that. And, uh, and then the plane had

00:19:24.380 to fly around in circles to burn fuel because you can't land a plane when there's too much fuel

00:19:28.900 because it's too much weight. And then we had to stop in a, in a, in an airport that was, uh, just

00:19:33.940 a small way to stop in Richmond airport, which is not where we were going. Take another plane this

00:19:38.200 morning, uh, after all of that. And that's why we're late. I will just say that, and it was,

00:19:43.620 it was fine. You know, the, uh, the, the pilot, they got us there safely. They got us on the

00:19:48.500 ground in one piece. That's all that matters. I will just say that he, uh, that when this issue

00:19:54.180 first, well, I kind of noticed that the plane was flying. We'd been in the air for a bit, but we seem

00:20:00.660 to be lower to the ground. It seemed unusual to me. And, but then I thought, well, it's just my

00:20:05.640 imagination. What do I know? And then the, the play, the pilot comes on the intercom and he opens with

00:20:11.140 these words. He says, no need to panic, but he actually said that. Okay, folks. Well, uh, no need

00:20:19.780 to panic. Never lead with that as a pilot. I don't care what's happening. Never, never tell us not to

00:20:26.360 panic. That's like when you're, when your kids come into the room and they say, okay, dad, uh, promise

00:20:31.360 you won't be mad. It's just, it's the worst possible intro. So then what we landed safely and

00:20:39.000 everything was fine. And, um, the panic only, but so I didn't panic. I, I, I got nervous when he said

00:20:45.340 that, but I didn't panic. I did panic, uh, after we'd landed and we got off the plane, we're trying

00:20:49.820 to figure out, okay, how are we going to get home? And it became clear very quickly that there's not

00:20:55.760 a lot of flights leave in Richmond. Uh, there was one flight because this plane is, you know, was not,

00:21:00.940 was not going to fly. So there was one flight leaving at 11 o'clock this morning and it was a Southwest

00:21:06.140 flight. And, and, and even worse, the only seats available, the only spots available because they

00:21:13.860 don't have assigned seats were in the, in the late Bs. So I had like B 50. Okay. In my boarding group.

00:21:19.940 And, uh, that is, so I'm imagining a scenario where I'll be flying on a Southwest flight in a middle seat

00:21:25.920 after all the incessant complaining you hear me do on this show about airplanes.

00:21:31.840 And after I've said so many times that the person in the middle seat is not a human and has no human

00:21:37.640 rights, you know, where I stand on that. And now I'm thinking I'm going to be stuck on a plane for

00:21:42.140 an hour and a half in a middle seat on a Southwest flight. Um, turns out it was actually in an aisle

00:21:47.660 seat, but, uh, you know, it was still, it was still quite awful. All right. We'll play a couple of

00:21:53.020 clips of that later on, but I wanted to start with this, uh, daily wire reports, governor Tim

00:21:57.220 Walls claimed during a recent listening tour event that former vice president Kamala Harris

00:22:02.560 chose him as a running mate because he could code talk to white guys and provide a permission

00:22:08.380 structure in which they might feel comfortable voting for a black woman. Uh, this was at a,

00:22:12.520 at a, an event at Harvard Kennedy school, Harvard Kennedy school forum, a listening tour. I don't

00:22:18.560 know what a listening tour is, but that's what he's doing. And, uh, so here's the clip. Let's listen.

00:22:24.040 I knew I was on the ticket. Um, I would argue because we did a lot of amazing progressive

00:22:30.140 things in Minnesota to improve people's lives. But I also was on the ticket, quite honestly,

00:22:34.320 you know, cause I, I could code talk to white guys watching football, fixing their truck,

00:22:39.980 doing that, that I could put them at ease. I was the permission structure to say,

00:22:44.460 look, you can do this and vote for this.

00:22:48.740 Well, where to even begin with this? I mean, first of all,

00:22:51.260 it's sort of amazing that he, that they're admitting this, that he cut, he's come out,

00:22:58.140 he's coming out and admitting that his presence on the ticket was a ploy, that it was purely cynical.

00:23:03.160 He was nothing more than a mascot, which we already knew. Of course, we already knew that,

00:23:07.460 but to admit it is a, is a whole other thing. But then you notice that there are no conclusions

00:23:14.140 being drawn from this. Yes, they did bring on Tim Walls in a, uh, cynical attempt to code talk

00:23:23.960 to white guys. How did that work out, Tim? How did that pan out? How did your code talking go?

00:23:32.820 Did it resonate? What happened? What's the, what, what's the conclusion of that story? Well,

00:23:39.220 the conclusion is that it was an unmitigated failure. It was a disaster. It was a total

00:23:42.760 humiliation. That's the conclusion. And why is that? Well, first of all, uh, because you aren't

00:23:50.200 convincing. Nobody buys you as a regular middle-aged working class dad. The cosplay was not convincing

00:23:57.200 at all. I mean, you could talk about trucks and hunting all you want, but it only took us about 15

00:24:02.000 seconds of watching you like flamboyantly prance around on stage for us to recognize that you are

00:24:09.060 not the man's man that you're pretending to be. The only people who were fooled by Tim Walls were

00:24:16.360 liberal women. Liberal women saw the camo hat and they saw the, and they heard, they heard him say the

00:24:22.940 word football and they said, wow, my husbands will love this guy. It's like, it's like, it's the

00:24:29.940 political equivalent of, of when, you know, your wife comes home and says, Hey, I heard about,

00:24:34.260 I heard about this, this men's retreat that you would love. Oh, you'll love it. It's, it's,

00:24:39.720 they sit around a campfire, you know, they eat meat and they talk about their feelings. You would love

00:24:45.960 it. And then you hear that and say, well, no, that sounds like the worst thing that of all time,

00:24:52.840 that sounds like the absolute worst possible thing that I could ever do. But that's Tim Walls. Tim

00:24:58.340 Walls is a, is a woman's idea of what resonates with men, specifically a liberal woman's idea of

00:25:04.200 what resonates with men. So it didn't work. And it didn't work because men are, you know,

00:25:14.120 largely practical, right? Men care about utility. And when it comes to our leaders, we want people

00:25:21.060 who will do the job and do it well. We don't care what their hobbies are. We don't care if they seem

00:25:27.220 like, you know, they'd, they'd make a good friend. We're not looking for a hunting buddy. Okay.

00:25:33.520 We're not looking for someone that would sit down and have a beer with them. We're not actually

00:25:36.660 looking for that. We don't, we don't care about that. Um, I, I, I've never heard that of, of in all

00:25:44.760 my years of talking politics with people and with men, I've never heard a man say of a politician

00:25:53.080 that he supports say, Oh yeah, I, I, you know, I, I love that guys. I really support him.

00:25:59.780 It just seems like the kind of guy I'd want to sit down and have a beer with. I've never actually,

00:26:02.920 I've never, I've heard that from pundits. I've heard that on cable news. I've never heard an

00:26:06.860 actual person say that as, as a reason for why they support someone. Um, so when somebody is running

00:26:13.920 for office and they say, well, I like, I like to hunt and I drive a truck. Our immediate response is,

00:26:20.740 okay. Okay. So what do I care what you do with your free time? It's like, I'm not in good for

00:26:30.740 you. That's I'm not impressed. It's no different than if I went to the dentist and I'm sitting down

00:26:36.800 in the chair and the dentist says, you know, cause I'm going to get a root canal and the dentist says,

00:26:41.700 well, you know, before we get started, I just want to want to let you know, cause I see that you're a

00:26:45.140 man as well. I want to let you know that, um, that, uh, you know, I like country music and I wear

00:26:50.800 blue jeans most of the time. Just a little code talk. Do a little, let's do a little code talk.

00:26:56.200 I'm all, you know, us bros, let's do some code talk. You know, if a dentist said that to me,

00:27:02.660 I would say, oh, well, good for you. But can you fix my teeth is the question. So what do you,

00:27:08.860 like, is that you're a dentist though? Aren't you? That's the thing I'm here really for the dental

00:27:13.900 work part of it. That's what I'm really here for. So that's how you resonate with men. If you want

00:27:19.540 to resonate with men, it's, it's not, it's not through a code talking, whatever the hell that

00:27:22.680 means. It just, it's, it's by, uh, presenting yourself as a competent person who can do the job

00:27:29.260 that you are applying for. All right. Somebody named Owen McIntyre, who I believe is a, who I

00:27:37.780 believe is, is a man, uh, firebombed a Tesla dealership back in March with, I think it was

00:27:44.360 Molotov cocktails. And the federal government charged this guy with terrorism, which is what

00:27:50.080 that is, right? A violent act causing hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage done for political

00:27:56.060 reasons. That is what terrorism is, which means that the feds argued, well, he should remain in

00:28:01.240 custody leading up to his trial because he's a suspected terrorist. These are terrorism related

00:28:06.080 charges. But then a judge, a judge by the name of judge, Jessica Hedges has decided to release this

00:28:12.560 guy from custody and the lead up to, you know, while, while all this stuff has worked out. And

00:28:16.640 here's the reason why he's being released from custody. Listen, Bria and John, the government

00:28:22.940 wanted Owen McIntyre to spend the time before trial behind bars, but the judge in Boston sided with

00:28:30.700 the defense in this cage, which cited multiple medical issues facing the 19 year old, including

00:28:37.840 autism spectrum disorder, gender dysphoria and ADHD. McIntyre's attorney argued the teen should be

00:28:45.440 released citing serious and ongoing medical needs and treatments that could not or would not be

00:28:51.920 provided while in federal detention. The defense filing says McIntyre is being treated for depression

00:28:58.480 and since March has been receiving gender affirming care, that care would likely be interrupted or

00:29:04.900 terminated in federal custody. So the letting him out because of his serious medical problems,

00:29:10.940 medical problems that are all fake, by the way, they are serious as in seriously fake, seriously

00:29:17.760 non-existent. I mean, if depression is an excuse for letting somebody out of prison, then every single

00:29:23.420 person in prison should be let out of prison. Everyone in prison is depressed. It's a depressing

00:29:28.720 place, I've heard. So that's sort of the point. That's part of the point anyway. And then we also

00:29:34.140 hear that this dude is getting a gender affirming care, quote unquote, which began in March.

00:29:40.900 But he, he, this attack also happened in March. So it began the same month that he attacked the Tesla

00:29:45.960 dealership. So apparently this guy became trans and then immediately decided to go do terrorism

00:29:51.360 or he did terrorism. And then he immediately decided that he must be trans. I mean, however you solve

00:29:58.380 that chicken or egg riddle, still you're left with this, you know, what is an increasingly familiar

00:30:03.520 connection between transgenderism and violence. I mean, it's almost like people who are at war with

00:30:10.520 their own identity also tend to be at war with society in more, you know, in a more direct and physical

00:30:20.520 sense. It's almost like, you know what it's like, it's almost like hatred of the self becomes hatred

00:30:27.900 of others. I don't know. It's almost like that. In fact, it is that. So in any case, more nonsense

00:30:39.460 from this radical left-wing judge, nonsense enabled by the psychiatric industry and its invention of fake

00:30:45.840 diseases that often function as nothing more than an excuse for antisocial, narcissistic behavior.

00:30:51.560 But the thing we have to, we have to always remember about, you know, about this, about the

00:30:55.840 judges is that like I always say, they are, these judges that do this, they are not bleeding heart

00:31:02.260 liberals. They are not motivated by this kind of misplaced or exaggerated compassion. Um, they are not,

00:31:10.620 sometimes you'll hear, you'll hear conservatives say of these judges that let criminals out of prison,

00:31:15.360 say that they're weak, right? These are weak, like weak, sensitive judges. That's not it. I think

00:31:24.320 you give them way too much credit when you say that because they're actually ruthless. They are

00:31:28.440 ruthless, cruel ideologues. They do this because they want more chaos and more violence in the

00:31:36.760 communities. They do this because they want to reward these criminals, especially these criminals

00:31:41.580 that are attacking Tesla dealerships. So this is not, uh, any kind of sensitivity or compassion. This

00:31:49.480 is a, a ruthless and total indifference to human life is, is what you're actually seeing from these

00:31:58.940 judges. All right. I wanted to play this clip from the interview with Tucker. This one, just because

00:32:06.480 this one's getting a lot of attention. This is what I'm seeing circulating a lot. Um, it is to me,

00:32:12.980 not, not the most important thing we talked about or, or what we spent the most time on. Uh, but it's

00:32:19.200 still important. And, um, where we're kind of talking about, and I'm, I'm, I guess, describing what I

00:32:27.200 consider to be like, what does it mean to be America first? And, um, so here's that portion of the

00:32:32.020 interview. What did you think of the debate? A lot of this kind of broke through the surface in the

00:32:38.500 debate between Dave Smith and, um, Douglas Murray on Rogan a couple of weeks ago. Did you watch that?

00:32:47.060 I did. I watched, uh, I ended up watching the, I wasn't planning on watching the whole thing, but I

00:32:50.580 watched the whole thing, uh, over the course of a few days. It was a long debate. And, you know,

00:32:59.060 I have a, a different, I come in with a different perspective than maybe some people who are really

00:33:04.240 interested in the debate in that I don't have a dog in the fight. I don't, everyone is, I'm

00:33:12.700 constantly hearing from the peanut gallery demanding that I, um, kind of give my, my verdict or my take

00:33:19.360 on Israel and Israel versus Palestine and all this kind of stuff. And I have given my take and my take

00:33:25.100 is I don't care that much. Uh, so I don't, I just don't care that much. I, I'm a, I'm not just

00:33:30.960 America first. I'm a, I'm an American chauvinist in that I only care about my own country. I honestly

00:33:36.900 don't care about other countries. I wish them well. I don't, I don't wish any of them. I don't wish

00:33:41.420 them ill. I wish the people of other countries well. Uh, I think they all have a right to defend

00:33:45.980 themselves and they should. I think that if you can't defend yourself as a nation or if you can't

00:33:51.740 survive without, um, being propped up by another government, say ours, then you shouldn't exist as

00:33:59.100 a country. Uh, that's just the way of the world. So. Wait, wait, wait. If you, if you can't exist

00:34:04.940 without being propped up by another government, say ours, you shouldn't exist. Israel cannot exist

00:34:11.240 without being propped up by the United States. You think so? Its nuclear program came from the

00:34:16.660 United States. Its weapons come from the United States. Its economy supported by the United States.

00:34:19.920 I'm not attacking Israel. I'm just saying in point of fact, I think that's true. And I

00:34:25.200 mean, Israel thinks it's true or they wouldn't have armies of lobbyists and influencers in

00:34:28.640 the United States. Bibi wouldn't have shown up twice in the past three months. Yeah. I mean,

00:34:33.040 the way from my perspective, it seems like they can handle themselves quite fine. Uh, but any country,

00:34:43.200 if there is any country out there that fundamentally cannot exist without being subsidized by American

00:34:52.640 taxpayers, then not only should that country not exist, but that country already does not exist.

00:34:59.200 It's, it's not really, that's interesting. It's not really a country right now.

00:35:03.440 Uh, so that's, uh, that's it. Uh, you know, America first, I think we should start talking

00:35:12.000 more about American chauvinism. That's what we should be promoting. I am an American chauvinist,

00:35:17.600 uh, proudly unapologetically. I love my own country. I care about my own country. Other countries

00:35:23.040 have value to me only in so far as they help my own country. Um, and this may, this may be a simple

00:35:32.560 way of looking at things. It may lack nuance, you know, and I have heard that criticism. I've heard

00:35:37.760 that criticism. I get the criticism all the time, but I've heard it, uh, in particular, in response to

00:35:42.640 that clip from some people saying that this is not a, this is not a nuance. My, my foreign policy

00:35:48.720 views are not nuanced, not a nuanced view. And you're right. It's not nuanced. It's not. And

00:35:55.840 you know something? I don't care. Uh, I also lack nuance in the way that I favor my own children

00:36:02.160 and my own wife over other people's children and wives, but I do not have a nuanced view on that at

00:36:08.480 all. As I said to Tucker, you know, as that conversation continued, if I had to choose between

00:36:15.680 saving my child or a thousand strangers from a burning building, I would save my own child every

00:36:22.680 time over a thousand people without hesitation, I'd say my child over a million people. Is that a

00:36:28.940 nuanced view? No, but it's natural. I believe it's also moral. I am on this earth to protect my

00:36:37.060 children. I'm morally called to it. And that's how I look at my country over other countries.

00:36:42.980 Americans are my people. This is my home. It's my culture. It's my traditions, my ancestors.

00:36:50.380 I value that over the customs and people of any other country. And by the way,

00:36:56.020 I expect them to feel the same way, right? If a, if a, if a Japanese person were to say to me that

00:37:03.960 he values his people and his home over me and my home, I would say, good, you should.

00:37:10.280 You should, you should be a patriot for your own country. I don't expect a Japanese person to be

00:37:18.640 a patriot for America. It wouldn't mean anything. Uh, no, you should love your own country first.

00:37:27.340 This is also one of the reasons why, by the way, when you hear people say, well, and we, with every

00:37:31.920 new administration, we hear this from the other side, they'll say, well, America's standing in the

00:37:36.200 world has suffered. Look at the way the other countries look at us and think of us. I don't

00:37:42.220 care what I care what other countries are. They, they don't like us now. So I don't care what they

00:37:50.360 think. And also I, I assume they think they should think that they're better than us, right? Cause

00:37:56.560 that's their country. That's how you should see it. Just like if you came to me and said,

00:38:00.900 you know what? I value my own children over yours. I would say, well, good, you should.

00:38:06.620 Yeah. It would be weird if you didn't, right? It'd be weird if you came to me and said, you know,

00:38:11.140 I value your children over mine. I don't want you to say that for a lot of reasons. And, um,

00:38:17.180 and that's it. So that's my entire, uh, that's, that's my, that's my, that's my foreign policy.

00:38:24.940 That's how I look at it. And that also informs my, my take on any of these, uh, global conflicts.

00:38:37.100 And so every time I get the question as, you know, you've heard me respond to it so many times

00:38:42.440 at this point, but what about Israel? It's like, why, why, what, what didn't you understand about

00:38:50.660 America first? I do. It was, why would that be? If I say, well, I value my own country over every

00:38:55.180 other country. I care about my country the most. And then you say, well, what would you say that

00:38:59.980 about Israel? Of course I would. That's another country, isn't it? Why would that be a carve out

00:39:07.400 exception? It's not. You might as well say, well, yeah, well, you say that, but what about South

00:39:12.800 Korea? Well, South Korea is South Korea. Again, I wish them well. I do. And I think that every country

00:39:22.500 has a right to defend itself. Um, every country should pride itself, should have pride in itself.

00:39:31.220 The people of other countries should be patriots of those countries.

00:39:34.100 To me, all this is so obvious that it, it, it, you know, like most of what I say every single day,

00:39:41.880 so obvious that it shouldn't need to be said. And, um, and it also just comes naturally,

00:39:47.620 I think to most people in the world and we don't question it, right? We don't, we don't,

00:39:54.160 America first is a, a slogan here. I think the very fact that it needs to be a slogan,

00:40:01.340 right? Tells you that's, that's part of the problem.

00:40:07.760 It's like the, the fact that we have to go around talking about what a woman is,

00:40:10.960 right? When you see people wearing shirts that have the definition of a woman, it's, it's,

00:40:16.380 yeah, well, we need to do that here, but it's, it's bad that we, that that's necessary.

00:40:22.500 And I think if you go to a lot of other countries, um, they probably don't have these same slogans

00:40:27.880 where they have their own country, you know, where they're going around saying, I put my own country

00:40:30.920 first because to them it's, it's natural. Of course you do. What, what else would we do?

00:40:38.760 By the way, along, speaking of shirts, along with being an American chauvinist, I'm also a greedy

00:40:41.900 capitalist, which is why the merch team has made American chauvinist t-shirts, which are, uh,

00:40:46.600 apparently now available to Daily Wire store. So you can go pick up one of those and advertise your

00:40:51.800 chauvinism to the world, which I think is a great thing to do. Also, um, okay. One more brief clip

00:40:58.340 that I wanted to play because just the theme here, I guess is simplicity. And I have a simple

00:41:04.020 approach to foreign policy. I also have a simple political ideology, which, uh, we, which Tucker

00:41:09.680 and I talked about, let's play that. I think I'm, I'm at the point where my, it's kind of like my,

00:41:14.960 my, my whole ideology, my political ideology at this point is that I want my kids to go to

00:41:21.760 heaven. I want my kids to go to heaven and I want them, I want them to be good and happy people.

00:41:27.820 That's what I want. Uh, so everything that we do in the home and we're not perfect, we don't get this

00:41:34.140 right perfectly, not even close to it, but everything we do in the home should be tailored towards that

00:41:41.200 end to help our kids be good and happy people. And, uh, and that's also, those are the policies

00:41:51.840 that I support. You know, I, I, I, this is, this is, that, that's my, that's my, those are my politics.

00:41:56.760 Sounds like Christian nationalism, Matt.

00:41:59.200 Guilty as charged. I'm a nationalist. I'm Christian. So

00:42:01.480 another term I have never heard defined. Um, well, that's, wow. What an interesting way to frame it.

00:42:08.440 What a, what a great way to frame it. Okay. Yeah. So that's, uh,

00:42:13.740 and that's really it for me as a, as a, as a father, it's my job to make sure that my kids go

00:42:19.660 to heaven. It's my job to help them become good and happy people. Happy in the sense that only a

00:42:25.480 good person can be right. I'm not talking about momentary pleasure. I'm not saying that my goal in

00:42:29.900 life is to make sure that my kids are entertained all the time. I mean, the happiness, the deep joy of

00:42:35.940 being the person that you should be and doing what you are called to do by God, uh, in this world.

00:42:43.420 You know, that's what I mean. And so policy wise, when it comes to policy, I am in favor of any policy

00:42:53.420 that helps to create a country where children or my children can be happy and good. Okay. I'm in favor

00:43:02.160 of anything that helps towards that goal. I am opposed to, and I hate everything that interferes

00:43:11.000 with it. Anything and anyone who would stand in the way of my children being good and happy people

00:43:18.940 in this world, anything and anyone that would lead them into destruction and misery, I despise.

00:43:26.960 I hate. I want to see destroyed. They're my mortal enemies. And it's, it's as simple as that for me.

00:43:39.580 And that consideration for me comes before anything include, I mean, and I mean anything.

00:43:46.020 And this, that may sound scandalous to some people, the way that we're wired these days,

00:43:52.400 because it even comes, well, what about, shouldn't your first priority be, what if someone, what about

00:43:57.880 their rights, the constitution? That to me, that's, that's not God, right? That's not, that's not the

00:44:06.500 ultimate truth to me. Um, no, the thing that I care the most about is that is to protect my children

00:44:17.180 and my family and to make sure that we live in a country that to the extent, to the greatest extent

00:44:24.520 possible facilitates their happiness and their wellbeing. That's what I care the most about that.

00:44:32.660 That's the number one consideration. Every other consideration. Doesn't mean that there are,

00:44:38.520 there aren't other things that are important to consider, but every other consideration is underneath

00:44:44.080 that in order of importance. And, um, and I suspect that that's also something that not too long ago

00:44:56.560 would have been so obvious that you didn't need to say out loud. And I would, I would like to think

00:45:01.880 that it still is. Okay. Let's get to the comment section. Well, I haven't done the comment section

00:45:16.860 in a while, but I had to bring it back to, uh, respond to some of the comments on yesterday's

00:45:21.940 show, specifically the cancellation where I canceled Revenge of the Sith after watching the

00:45:27.840 re-release in theaters. And the comments are as expected, very negative, very much not in agreement

00:45:33.820 with me, uh, very upset, very, a lot of very upset people. And I say, it's not a surprise,

00:45:39.300 but I did think that the prequel trilogy was pretty widely understood to be crappy. I, I, I thought,

00:45:47.420 I thought the prequels were infamous for being low quality, poorly written, sloppy cash grabs.

00:45:52.440 I mean, there was a time when I think everyone basically saw it that way. Uh, but I guess now

00:45:58.240 we've entered this alternate dimension where everyone's pretending that these terrible movies

00:46:02.820 are actually good. So, uh, let's go through some of the comments. I'll just read a chunk of them

00:46:09.040 right off the top. Uh, might be the only time in history I disagree with you. This is an awful take.

00:46:14.320 Matt having a non-awful take on movies challenge. Impossible. Matt Walsh on politics. Good. Matt

00:46:21.520 Walsh on movies. Bad. Matt Walsh stick to politics. Your movie takes risk the death of your side's

00:46:27.300 victories in the culture war. Uh, yes, that the, our success in the culture war hinges on me liking

00:46:37.960 star Wars. I may have just destroyed the culture by not liking star. One guy on the internet doesn't

00:46:44.680 like star Wars. The culture is done. It's over. That's the kind of power I have. If I personally

00:46:53.300 don't like something, it's a, it is a national crisis, which is how people treat it. I am not

00:47:00.420 allowed to not like certain things. You're just, you're just not allowed. It's, there are certain

00:47:04.380 things. If you don't like it, people will let you know. No, you're not allowed to not like that.

00:47:07.400 You have to like that. Then you know, you have to like it. Yeah, but I just don't, I just don't

00:47:13.620 like it. Well, but you have to, you have to like it. Find a way to like it. Watch it until you like

00:47:18.860 it. The, the, the beatings will continue until morale improves. Uh, sorry, Matt, you're deadly

00:47:26.500 wrong on this. Revenge of the Sith is amazing. Y'all tripping. Just came to say this dude is dead

00:47:32.600 wrong. This might be the worst Matt Walsh take ever. Unsubscribing. There are a lot of those,

00:47:39.540 a lot of unsubscribing. Okay. So thousands of responses like that. You notice what they're all

00:47:44.040 missing, which is any kind of explanation for how exactly I'm wrong. I laid out my case. I explained

00:47:52.440 it in detail. I explained citing examples, why the dialogue is bad. The acting's bad. The action

00:47:57.500 choreography is bad. The story has a million plot holes. Now, does anyone step up to the plate and,

00:48:03.220 and actually argue, you know, like, is anyone arguing that, that the acting is good? Do you

00:48:11.180 want to tell me, do any of you in the comments? Okay. Do you really want to, do you want to tell

00:48:15.180 me that Hayden Christensen, the lead actor, the guy, this whole thing is about put in a good

00:48:21.600 performance? Really? Okay. So if you're going to rank like the great cinematic performances of all

00:48:27.220 time, where, where is Hayden Christensen on that list? What do you think? Um, no, you don't want to

00:48:34.120 say that because obviously it's not good. Okay. So, so then what about the dialogue? Does anyone really

00:48:39.860 want to tell me that the dialogue is good? Does anyone dialogue? Okay. Dialogue that, that,

00:48:46.620 that includes a scene where the bad guy literally throws up his, his fists and screams no into the

00:48:55.660 air. You want to tell me that's good dialogue? Really? That's what you call good? That is actually

00:49:05.220 dialogue that at this point could be written by ChatGPT. That, that, that is AI dialogue. Okay. That's,

00:49:11.460 um, that is not, that's dialogue. That is nothing but cliche is the, it's the definition of bad

00:49:19.800 dialogue. So you want to tell you, it was really, you want to tell me that's good dialogue? I don't

00:49:24.920 think you do. I don't think you do. I don't think anyone wants to actually argue with a straight face

00:49:28.800 that the dialogue is good or that the acting is good. So, um, or maybe you do. So go ahead,

00:49:35.560 go ahead and make that argument. Tell you what, here's what I want you to do. Here's what I want you to

00:49:40.440 do. Go through the script of, uh, which, which you could easily find the script on, or if you're,

00:49:46.020 you know, if you're a super nerd, you have it memorized. Give me, I don't know, three examples.

00:49:51.780 No, not even three. One, give me one example of good dialogue in the script. Give me one little

00:49:59.200 snippet, you know, a few lines, a little scene, a sequence, something, just, just a conversation in

00:50:05.220 the, that, and, and cite it. Okay. Give me a citation. So what I want you to do is, oh, here

00:50:13.120 you go, Matt. Here's this scene of the dialogue. Here's the dialogue. And this is good dialogue.

00:50:18.080 I think you can't, I think you cannot find one snippet of good dialogue in the whole damn movie.

00:50:23.500 I bet you can't. Um, so then what is it? What about the action? You know, go back to the scenes

00:50:31.800 where, uh, Emperor Ovaltine is fighting the three Jedis and, and tell, tell me, really tell me that

00:50:37.820 that's well choreographed, crisply executed, uh, uh, action. You want to tell me that? I don't think

00:50:45.280 you do. So I'm not seeing any arguments here. I'm just not. And there's so much more. I give a lot

00:50:51.500 of examples. I could have given many more examples of the problems with this movie. I didn't even get

00:50:56.020 into the names of these characters. Who was the one, the, um, the robot, the, the, the evil robot

00:51:04.100 that, uh, named General Grievous, like General Grievous. Well, how'd you come up with that,

00:51:13.000 George? Well, because he's evil and he does, he commits grievous actions. Oh, wow.

00:51:21.500 And then you got all these people's comments that, that they, they think that that's, wow,

00:51:24.520 that's clever. That's clever. Do you get it? Cause he's grievous. He does grievous things. And so

00:51:31.040 that's his name. I don't know. Like that's a terrible way to name a character. I don't know

00:51:38.300 how else to explain it to you. You know, in Austin Powers, which is a comedy, the joke is that the,

00:51:45.020 the, the, the evil villain, his name is Dr. Evil. It's a joke because it's so on the nose that it's

00:51:52.720 absurd. And in a, in a serious movie, you would never name a, uh, the villain literally evil,

00:52:00.060 but in start, George Lucas does that with a straight face. So,

00:52:07.220 and then the robot has a cough. Why does a robot have a cough?

00:52:16.740 Okay. What does a robot have? I was just talking about, I was just, I was, I was just talking

00:52:20.260 before we went on air, I would get this whole argument with, uh, Jacob who's, I mean, you know

00:52:24.360 him from this show cause I've destroyed him in mortal combat seven or eight times now. And, uh,

00:52:29.900 and I don't want to get, I guess, I don't know. I guess I'm spoiling it, but he, he came in to warn me.

00:52:33.840 He says, I'm, I'm writing a whole piece for daily wire where I'm going to destroy you. I'm going

00:52:38.920 to go piece by piece and prove why you're wrong about star Wars. I'm going to debunk. I'm going

00:52:42.900 to own you. And, uh, and I'm, I'm looking forward to seeing the piece, but I asked him about this,

00:52:48.400 this grief. Why did the, why did the evil, uh, robot have a cough? And he said, well,

00:52:53.520 cause you don't know the lore. You don't know the lore of this. You have to know, you have to

00:52:56.620 understand the lore. You haven't, you haven't, you know, there's this, you have to read all the

00:53:00.800 literature. Okay. I've spent years of my life studying star Wars. And he said that the lore of

00:53:07.700 this, uh, evil, uh, uh, robot is that he used to be a person. And then, but then he replaced his

00:53:14.180 whole body with a robot. You know, he became a, he, he became a robot, but he used to be a person.

00:53:20.040 And that's why he has a cough because the actual guy had a cough, had like emphysema or bronchitis.

00:53:26.800 And then, uh, and then he became a robot and he still has a cough. And I said, well, wait a second.

00:53:31.720 So he replaced every part of his body with machines except his lungs that have pneumonia.

00:53:42.020 That's the one part you don't replace the part of your body. That's the biggest problem

00:53:47.180 is the one that doesn't turn robotic.

00:53:49.140 So explain that. Anyway. Uh, okay. Well, it's,

00:54:01.000 oh, well this, okay. Here's another comment that annoyed me. What are we at? It's eight,

00:54:05.460 eight and a half minutes. Uh, Matt hates everything. Only talks about movies. He hates pure rage bait.

00:54:12.080 I also want to say to this, this annoys me. And it's funny when I see comments like this,

00:54:16.300 which I see all the time, especially when I, when I commit the sin of not liking something,

00:54:20.120 you know, if I don't like something in pop culture, everyone likes,

00:54:23.200 but I talk about stuff I like all the time. I did a whole video just last week about why I liked the

00:54:30.280 movie master and commander. It was, that was the only point of the video. There was no,

00:54:33.060 there was no hook to it. It was nothing. I just liked the movie master and commander. I think it's a

00:54:36.980 great film. And, uh, and so I made a video about why I like it. I did a video before that about why I

00:54:44.680 like the show severance. I did a video where I talked about three movies that are coming out

00:54:48.400 this year that I'm looking forward to. I talk about books that I like, uh, all the time.

00:54:53.480 And so I talk about stuff I like all the time and people who listen to the show, they know that

00:54:57.940 they know that I talk about it. So the comments that say, well, you only talk about the stuff you

00:55:04.460 don't like there, what they're actually, that's a self report. You're self reporting because what

00:55:09.180 you're saying is that you only pay attention when I, to the content that's negative. You only pay

00:55:16.260 attention when I'm saying I don't like something. So when I put out a video saying, Hey, let me tell

00:55:22.060 you why I like this movie. You don't click on it because you don't think that's interesting. You

00:55:26.160 only want to hear me hate stuff, which is fine. I get it. Okay. I understand it. I'm not, Hey,

00:55:32.600 everyone has their taste, but then don't blame me for that because you decide to ignore every time I say,

00:55:38.420 I like something. Don't then turn around and blame me for not liking anything.

00:55:43.100 You're only interested when I'm ranting and raving about the stuff that I hate.

00:55:48.280 So, um, you know, don't blame me. That's all. Okay. And there's a, here's the last guy. This,

00:55:55.500 this was not all, there was one comment that I liked. Okay. Here's the one comment. This is one

00:55:58.940 guy. This is someone who disagrees with me, but, but here's the comment. Can we, can we star Wars fans

00:56:03.580 accept, accept the fact that a movie can be enjoyable as all hell and still be not that good or

00:56:08.360 even bad. I watched this movie opening night in 2005, watched it several times since then went

00:56:13.080 to the theater for the re-release last week. I had a blast every time that doesn't stop me from

00:56:18.100 acknowledging that it's got a lot of issues regarding quality script and generally just

00:56:21.540 making sense. That being said, I assume Matt went way overboard hating on it because hating fun stuff

00:56:25.760 is his thing, but still there's a lot of issues with, uh, with, uh, with revenge of the Sith.

00:56:31.880 Doesn't mean it's not super enjoyable and best of the prequels. Okay. That's fine. You see,

00:56:36.440 I got no issue with that. I have no issue with that. No issue with you saying, yeah,

00:56:41.740 it's not a great movie. It's got all these problems. I still like it. That's fine. You

00:56:45.120 can like whatever you want. I'm not telling you not to like something. Uh, so that's perfectly fine.

00:56:51.280 My problem is when people have a nostalgic or emotional attachment to something.

00:56:55.280 So then they insist that we all have to pretend that the thing is actually good,

00:57:00.760 that it's high quality art. You know, I mean, I said that I didn't like Sonic three and I still

00:57:07.260 have grown adults screaming at me in tears because I don't like Sonic three.

00:57:14.460 You know, you, and it's fine if you want to say, yeah, you know, Sonic three, I mean,

00:57:20.360 it's Sonic, it's not a great film, but I kind of liked it. That's fine. But don't try to tell me

00:57:25.580 it's a good film. And yet this is what I have grown adults looking at me with a straight face

00:57:32.000 and say, no, Sonic three is a great film. What? It's a great film. Sonic three. You would put it

00:57:40.320 in the pantheon of the great films of all time. What is it like? Uh, the Godfather, Citizen Kane,

00:57:46.540 Sonic three, Casablanca. Come on, let's get real folks. So

00:57:52.700 there's 13 minutes on that. I've now spent about 30 minutes this week of total airtime talking about

00:58:01.320 Revenge of the Sith. So that's what you get. I'll do, I'll do more. I'll do another, I'll do 15 minutes

00:58:07.720 tomorrow. So you're going to try, you're going to try to Hector and scold me into liking it. Well,

00:58:15.060 two can play at that game. You don't want to get into a scolding competition with me. All right.

00:58:20.680 Well, take a look around. Do you, do you feel that something is happening? People are smiling at each

00:58:24.860 other in public. Things aren't in fire and reality, actual objective reality is making a bit of a

00:58:31.240 comeback. This is not a glitch in the matrix. It's what happens when the fever breaks. Welcome to the

00:58:37.260 return of normal. It's a new day. The sun is rising. The birds are singing and things are returning to

00:58:49.520 normal. It's norming in America. Today, we're actually arresting shoplifters and fewer businesses

00:58:59.440 are being burned down all over America. Pronouns are being dropped from bios. Men are not having

00:59:07.260 babies and fewer drag queens are flashing their genitals at children. Videos like this one aren't

00:59:14.560 being shadow banned as much. People are saying master bedroom. And look at that. White people are

00:59:22.080 reappearing in commercials. Oh, and guys, we can say guys again. America, the fever has broken. Now we can

00:59:33.320 be sensible, nicer, and normal. Join us. And let's never go back to those weird, angry, divisive times again.

00:59:44.900 It's norming in America. Have a great norming. You hear? Well, if that made you smile or at least blink

00:59:56.320 twice in disbelief, good. Join us at dailywire.com slash subscribe and become a part of the rebellion

01:00:02.180 against the ridiculous. Normal is back, and this time we're keeping it. Now let's get to our daily

01:00:07.700 cancellation. The past week or so, there's been a sustained outrage cycle over a dumb kid prank

01:00:19.120 calling Shador Sanders during the NFL draft. The kid apparently obtained Sanders' number from a

01:00:24.840 football player at Berry College, who happens to be the son of the defensive coordinator of the

01:00:29.640 Atlanta Falcons. And then when Sanders picked up the phone, the prank caller impersonated the general

01:00:34.960 manager of the New Orleans Saints and said that Sanders would be selected soon in the draft, that he'd have

01:00:39.920 to wait a little longer. Now to a lot of people, as dumb and cruel as it was, the call was mildly

01:00:45.800 entertaining because Sanders is extremely narcissistic and unlikable, and it looked like he wasn't going to

01:00:50.600 get picked at all. And so here's what it looked like from both sides of the call when this happened, in case

01:00:56.020 you missed it, watch.

01:01:04.640 Hey, is this your dude?

01:01:08.860 Hey, this is Mickey Loomis here, the GM of the New Orleans Saints. How are you doing? This is Mickey

01:01:16.120 Loomis here, GM of the Saints.

01:01:19.060 How you doing?

01:01:20.260 Good, how are you, man?

01:01:22.460 Good, dude, we're waiting on you.

01:01:23.680 Yeah, we have, uh, it's been a long wait, man. Uh, we're going to take you with our next

01:01:28.920 peak right here, man.

01:01:31.140 It's going to be nothing to you.

01:01:33.240 Yeah, but you're going to have to wait a little bit longer, man. Sorry about that.

01:01:40.360 What does that mean?

01:01:41.840 What? What did he say?

01:01:43.040 I don't know.

01:01:43.900 How are you going to ask us what it mean, and you was on the phone?

01:01:45.920 You heard that?

01:01:46.720 He said you're going to have to wait a little bit longer.

01:01:49.000 Okay.

01:01:49.480 What are you talking about?

01:01:49.860 Sorry about that.

01:01:52.340 Why did he talk?

01:01:53.360 I don't know what that was.

01:01:58.000 So everyone could tell right away that it's a prank.

01:02:00.080 They're not exactly sure how these kids got Sanders' phone number, and, you know, it wasn't,

01:02:05.360 it wasn't, like, especially well-executed, the prank.

01:02:08.320 I mean, he didn't, when you stumble over identifying yourself, then that's kind of a dead giveaway.

01:02:14.040 But they weren't sure how he got the phone number since they had only told the NFL what it was.

01:02:20.480 But beyond that, there's nothing particularly nefarious about the call.

01:02:24.740 No one convinced Shador Sanders to wire some of his dad's money to a shady bank account.

01:02:30.540 Nobody asked Shador Sanders to add two numbers together or to complete five sentences without saying hashtag legendary out loud.

01:02:36.120 It was just a dumb prank call.

01:02:38.040 That was it.

01:02:38.540 Everybody involved should have moved on with their lives within about five seconds because it really doesn't matter.

01:02:44.780 But that's not what happened.

01:02:47.120 And the reasons why it hasn't happened are worth exploring.

01:02:50.060 But before we do that, behold, this footage of Falcons defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich.

01:02:55.480 This happened yesterday.

01:02:57.580 Holding back tears as he grovels for forgiveness over his son's actions.

01:03:02.380 The NFL fined the team $250,000 for this prank call that you just saw.

01:03:06.960 And hit Ulbrich himself with a $100,000 fine.

01:03:10.400 And then they apparently ordered him to participate in a struggle session where he acts like this prank call was an act of genocide or something.

01:03:17.480 Watch.

01:03:17.720 First of all, I'd like to publicly apologize to Shador and Sanders' family for what occurred.

01:03:25.460 Second of all, I want to publicly apologize to Mr. Blank, Terry Fontenot, Rene Morris, and the entire Falcons organization.

01:03:34.620 My actions, my actions of not protecting confidential data were inexcusable.

01:03:41.040 My son's actions were absolutely inexcusable.

01:03:44.100 And for that, we are both deeply sorry.

01:03:48.520 The NFL has taken action.

01:03:50.560 And I fully respect the punishment.

01:03:54.000 We take full responsibility, my son and myself.

01:03:57.060 And we will not be appealing the fine in any way.

01:04:01.460 Going forward, I promise my son and I will work hard to demonstrate.

01:04:06.880 Today, we are better than this.

01:04:09.820 Again, I'm deeply sorry for our actions.

01:04:13.340 This is just pathetic.

01:04:17.740 And we saw the footage.

01:04:20.440 Like, the guy, Shador Sanders didn't even buy it.

01:04:25.820 It's a total nothing.

01:04:27.460 It's a total nothing.

01:04:29.780 And here we have this guy essentially denouncing his own son in a press conference, which I would just never do.

01:04:37.780 I just, right?

01:04:39.120 I would never do.

01:04:39.980 Especially over this.

01:04:42.820 Now, the official explanation here is that Ulbricht's son came across Sanders' number while he was browsing his dad's iPad at home when he was visiting his parents.

01:04:50.600 And he apparently opened the unlocked iPad and navigated somehow to the list of phone numbers for the NFL prospects.

01:04:56.000 Whether this is true or not, I really can't say, nor do I really care.

01:05:01.200 I mean, it sounds a little weird about how he got the number.

01:05:05.100 But again, who cares?

01:05:06.500 I mean, there's no sense in playing Sherlock here because it is maybe the least consequential whodunit in the history of mysteries.

01:05:12.580 Anyways, this sad, sorry spectacle of a press conference is the end result of nonstop media-driven outrage over this story, over the fact that an entitled, underperforming quarterback wasn't picked immediately in the NFL draft and then was prank called.

01:05:30.740 And as he kept sliding further and further in the draft, the press pushed the narrative that Shador Sanders was the victim of racism.

01:05:35.480 We talked about this at the beginning of the week.

01:05:36.800 And as part of that process, he became completely untouchable.

01:05:42.380 Nobody was allowed to make fun of him.

01:05:44.420 And when somebody broke that rule and committed the sin of making a prank call at Sanders' expense, the press predictably melted down.

01:05:52.660 And there's just, like I said, there's been a week, a whole week of hysterical headlines and denunciations from ESPN personalities over this prank call.

01:06:03.500 Which, the prank call, it's a little mean.

01:06:06.040 Yeah, it's a little mean.

01:06:07.300 It's a little cruel to do that.

01:06:08.500 But it's just a dumb thing.

01:06:09.900 It doesn't matter.

01:06:11.020 Also, you know, if you're an 18-year-old kid, who among us hasn't done prank calls?

01:06:17.480 And if you're an 18-year-old kid and somebody gives you the phone number to an NFL draft prospect who's going to be on TV and gives you, like, and you have the possibility of making this prank call, at the age of 18, you're going to do it.

01:06:31.840 Right?

01:06:32.880 Most 18-year-olds, given that opportunity for that level of prank call, that's just a, that is a, that's an impossible temptation to turn down.

01:06:43.500 It just is.

01:06:44.100 It's an extremely depressing commentary in the state of this country that this prank call has generated far more media outrage than, for example, the murder of Austin Metcalf in Texas.

01:06:53.680 A white kid was stabbed through the heart at a track meet.

01:06:56.600 And the only major press conference he got, we got, was the family of the killer demanding sympathy.

01:07:01.740 But a rich black athlete is mildly inconvenienced and maybe sort of humiliated for a few seconds, and that is somehow intolerable.

01:07:11.600 What's also remarkable about the martyrdom of Shador Sanders is that other players in this year's draft were also pranked.

01:07:19.740 And none of these pranks generated any outrage whatsoever.

01:07:24.280 Why might that be?

01:07:26.140 Now, one of the prank calls involved a white defensive tackle named Mason Graham, who played for the Michigan Wolverines.

01:07:31.460 And he got a call from somebody claiming to be Kevin Stefanski with the Cleveland Browns.

01:07:35.580 And here's what that looked like.

01:07:36.780 He's not going to answer.

01:07:47.920 Hello?

01:07:48.880 Hey, is this Mason?

01:07:50.760 Yes, sir.

01:07:51.940 Hey, is this Kevin Stefanski with the Cleveland Browns?

01:07:53.940 You want to be a brown buddy?

01:07:55.720 Yes, sir.

01:07:56.860 All right, bring your ass.

01:07:57.920 Don't f*** no chance, bro.

01:07:59.520 Go, f*** you.

01:08:00.340 What a shitty f***ing clown.

01:08:02.140 You're a clown.

01:08:03.400 You're actually a f***ing clown.

01:08:04.780 Now, you'll notice that it was, that was actually a much more hostile prank call than the one that Shador Sanders was forced to endure at the hands of his tormentors.

01:08:17.260 This one was actually malicious by comparison.

01:08:20.660 It also makes it like, again, I understand the temptation you have an opportunity to make this prank call.

01:08:24.860 I'm not saying you should do it.

01:08:25.640 I'm not saying you should do it.

01:08:27.600 But think of a funnier bit than that.

01:08:30.060 I mean, I'm mad at that because it wasn't funny.

01:08:31.960 You totally botched it.

01:08:33.240 And that's the punchline.

01:08:36.640 Come up with a punchline for your prank call.

01:08:38.900 I mean, think through the bit a little bit before you do this.

01:08:42.640 It's sad.

01:08:44.440 In my day, back in my day, we put much more thought into our prank calls.

01:08:48.500 Much more thought.

01:08:50.200 But anyway, that happened.

01:08:52.360 It's a lot more malicious.

01:08:54.180 And no one is talking about it.

01:08:56.400 Now, it's gone completely under the radar.

01:08:57.700 It's only getting some minimal level of attention now because of the Shora Sanders situation blowing up.

01:09:02.680 Before that, nobody was talking about this at all.

01:09:04.480 And again, this kind of thing happens all the time.

01:09:06.840 Here's the prank call that targeted white Iowa quarterback Cooper Dijon last year before he was drafted to the Eagles.

01:09:13.880 Watch.

01:09:14.160 Watch.

01:09:14.880 Hello?

01:09:21.680 What's up?

01:09:25.200 To who?

01:09:27.660 Holy s**t.

01:09:29.960 I appreciate you.

01:09:33.720 I appreciate it.

01:09:36.660 Who's this?

01:09:37.840 it's a prank it's a prank

01:09:43.260 okay so spot the difference it's not that hard to see the difference in this case

01:10:04.020 is that Shador Sanders has been turned into a racial martyr by the sports media

01:10:08.680 because he was drafted a few rounds later than expected

01:10:11.360 the same media that didn't care in the slightest when a white player was pranked

01:10:15.300 the same way last year and actually that one is worse too

01:10:19.960 because he believed it for a second there was like a moment when he thought

01:10:23.480 he was really being drafted and then it was ripped away from him

01:10:25.960 which that is cruel that's like that's that's a mean thing to do to somebody

01:10:31.040 but then everybody's laughing about it and not laughing in a mean way

01:10:34.260 but and he laughs about it because yeah it's like it's pretty messed up to do that

01:10:37.900 but okay they got you everybody laughs it off and we move on with our lives

01:10:41.980 so this is the clearest possible case of race-based outrage

01:10:45.920 and race-based reporting that you can get

01:10:47.740 therefore from a trivial prank call we can make at least one non-trivial observation

01:10:53.260 the media along with some of the most powerful corporations in the country

01:10:56.820 are as race-obsessed as ever

01:10:58.900 and more specifically they are continuing to push anti-white propaganda

01:11:02.500 that seeks to minimize the problems of a disfavored demographic

01:11:05.920 while amplifying the problems of a favored demographic

01:11:08.480 they're not even really trying to hide it

01:11:10.360 even though the vast majority of americans have made it clear that they're tired of this nonsense

01:11:14.200 despite the election of donald trump

01:11:16.520 the gutting of dei all over the country

01:11:18.300 the erasure of the ridiculous end racism slogan from the end zones

01:11:21.580 all the legal rulings favoring merit over affirmative action

01:11:25.180 we're still being subjected to absurd over-the-top claims of black victimhood

01:11:30.780 everything about the chador sanders story could have been ripped from the headlines in 2020

01:11:34.920 you know we like to think that we've moved past the height of the blm era racial insanity

01:11:39.700 but the entire chador sanders saga proves again that we are still very much in the thick of it

01:11:44.540 you know we're being told with a straight face to pity a multi-millionaire

01:11:48.880 who's only capable of talking about how legendary he is

01:11:52.300 solely on the basis of his skin color

01:11:53.700 but you know he's not actually legendary

01:11:56.740 you gotta earn that

01:11:57.440 you gotta earn legendary status

01:11:59.020 maybe he will be one day

01:12:00.060 but right now he's not

01:12:01.780 and despite his fall in the draft

01:12:05.140 he is still maybe the most over-hyped

01:12:07.100 and over-discussed athlete

01:12:08.360 in recent sports history

01:12:10.340 and so is the entire narrative

01:12:12.660 about what a victim he supposedly is

01:12:14.400 that is why once again

01:12:16.060 everyone turning chador sanders into a racial martyr is today cancelled

01:12:20.420 that'll do it for the show today

01:12:22.260 thanks for watching

01:12:23.000 thanks for listening

01:12:23.540 talk to you tomorrow

01:12:24.200 have a great day

01:12:24.860 godspeed

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