Ep. 1588 - Feminists Are Infiltrating The Conservative Movement
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There are a growing number of allegedly conservative feminist influencers on the right, and it s a major problem. I ll explain why. Also, we already knew that the Maryland man, Abrego Garcia, was stopped by the cops on suspicion of human smuggling. Now we have the body cam footage from that encounter. Plus, I am ruthlessly attacked by a Daily Wire employee on the site, and I ll deal with that betrayal today. And Mark Zuckerberg says that the cure for human loneliness is AI. I m skeptical. We ll talk about all that and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, there's a growing number of allegedly conservative feminist
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influencers on the right, and it's a major problem. I'll explain why. Also, we already
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knew that the Maryland man, Abrego Garcia, was stopped by the cops on suspicion of human
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smuggling. Now we have the body cam footage from that encounter. Plus, I am ruthlessly
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attacked by a Daily Wire employee on the Daily Wire's own website. I'll deal with that betrayal
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today. And Mark Zuckerberg says that the cure for human loneliness is AI. I'm skeptical.
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We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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Normally, when some influencer posts a video that I find annoying and I feel the need to respond to it,
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I save it for the daily cancellation segment at the end of the show. At the top of the show,
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I try to reserve for newsier subjects, but that's not a hard and fast rule. Plus,
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it's Friday and I don't really feel like talking about newsier things. So today,
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we're going to begin with a video from an allegedly conservative influencer named Emily Wilson.
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And what makes this video relevant, aside from the fact that it's just, well, it just annoys me a lot,
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is that it echoes a message that we've been hearing with increasing frequency from women on the right
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with, in some cases, very large platforms. Now, Emily's platform isn't very large, but it is sizable
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enough. She has half a million followers on Instagram. I'm sure she's a nice person. I don't
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know her personally, and I have no issue with her. But she represents a growing, or if not growing,
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then at least increasingly evident problem on the right. And the problem in a word is feminism.
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Feminism is not compatible with any meaningful definition of conservatism. Whatever conservatism
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is trying to conserve, like marriage, the family, Western civilization itself, feminism militates
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against. And yet many feminists have become mouthpieces in the movement and are accepted
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as such, as long as they, you know, wear a MAGA hat and say that they don't like illegal immigration
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or whatever. So with that in mind, let's listen to just the latest submission to this ever-expanding
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Hate to call out my own party, but the young girls on the right promoting this like trad wife.
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I just want to make sourdough for my husband. That's great. I'm all for it. I promote traditional
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values. I understand. I have been working since I was very young. I don't really plan on stopping
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working. I suggest you find a hobby that makes you money. But you guys, guess what? Guess what,
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baby girl, that lifestyle working out, a man, a provider, you just get to sit at home, bake bread
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every day, slim to none. I would say none that that's going to work out for you or quite literally
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anyone, you know, you're actually setting yourself up for failure because it could not be easier if
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that's what you're going to pursue to be trapped by a man. Okay. Also let's bring some other things
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to the table besides sourdough. Let's, let's have guys want to be mentally stimulated as well as
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physical. Okay. But I'm just like, please, you guys are too young to be promoting this.
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And also by the way, it's cringe. Well, yes, Emily, I am cringing, but, but not because of
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the trad wives. I'm cringing at this lame half-baked attack on stay-at-home moms. And I'm cringing even
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more at the fact that women with these kinds of views are still embraced as conservative. Now try to
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imagine the opposite of this. Imagine a left-wing influencer who advocates for every left-wing policy
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under the sun, but then comes out one day and says, you know what? I think a woman's proper
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place is in the home raising her children. Now it's impossible to conceive of any left-wing woman
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ever saying anything like that. And if she did, she would be immediately excised from the movement.
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And that's because leftists understand that supporting so-called traditional gender roles
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is fundamentally antithetical to their worldview. You literally cannot be a leftist and hold that view.
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So the same is logically true in the reverse. Attacking, you know, so-called gender roles
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is a fundamentally leftist thing, which means you cannot be conservative if you hold fundamentally
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leftist views. Now you have every right to express those views and to hold them, but you should not be
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embraced as a conservative, much less listened to as a spokeswoman for the movement. Now let's go
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through some of the specifics here. Emily says that a woman should have a job and her own income so
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that she is not quote unquote trapped by a man. She envisions, you know, the relationship between
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husband and wife as this inherently competitive thing. Marriage is a zero-sum game where both husband
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and wife are competing for control. Again, this is a fundamentally leftist conception. It is a recipe for
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divorce. I mean, there's nothing in and of itself wrong with a wife earning money. As I've conceded many times,
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a family may feel that they need two incomes in order to survive. They may want a second income. The wife might
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have a job that doesn't require leaving the house and going to an office every day. But if she's earning money
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as an escape hatch because she doesn't want to be trapped, that is a very bad sign. And if you want to understand
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why it's a bad sign, just imagine how it would sound if a man adopted this philosophy. You know,
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there was a woman on X who commented yesterday as we were talking about this that a wife needs a quote
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backup in case their man can't fulfill his providing roles. Well, what if a man decided to have a backup
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in case his woman didn't fulfill her wifely duties? Most people would find that objectionable for good
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reason. The whole point of marriage is that you're devoting yourself entirely to your spouse to
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become one flesh. It's not possible to make that level of commitment while at the same time
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actively building yourself a little nest egg just in case you want to leave.
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Saying the vows and pledging yourself to your betrothed means not having an exit plan. It means you
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burn the boats like Cortez and turn towards the wilderness and journey in it together. Come what
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may. That's the only way that it works. Now, she also says that men want to be mentally stimulated.
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And the implication is that stay-at-home moms are too stupid to provide that sort of stimulation
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because all they think about is their sourdough bread. This is absurdly dismissive and insulting
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to millions of good, godly, intelligent women who, while staying home with their children,
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are also capable of having intelligent conversations with their husbands.
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It also assumes that a woman who sits in a cubicle all day will somehow have more interesting things
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to say to her husband at the end of the day. But, you know, having a job as a woman does not
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make you smart or interesting. I hate to break it to the working women of the world, but your husband
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is almost certainly not intellectually stimulated by your job or your stories about your job. In fact,
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if he was able to choose between listening to a story about your office drama or listening to a story
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about what you did with the kids that day, he would prefer to hear about the latter. Like, definitely.
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And this is the sort of thing you would know about men if you listen to them when they try to tell you
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what they want instead of declaring what you think they should want. But the biggest problem and the
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objection that you hear most often from these feminist types is the claim that somehow the stay-at-home
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mom arrangement is implausible or even impossible. You know, she declares that your chances of finding a man
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who can provide for you while you stay home and raise the children, that those chances are slim to none.
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None. Actually none, she says. There is no chance, no chance that it will work out for you. There's no chance
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that it will work out for you or anyone you know. And yet that's weird because it has worked out for
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countless people. It worked out for my wife. It worked out for many families that I know personally.
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It worked out for billions of humans across the globe and through history since the dawn of civilization.
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So Emily has written off the most normal and historically common practice as not just
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difficult, but according to her, literally impossible. And not just impossible, but also
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absurd and grotesque. And, you know, there's a lot of this kind of thing going around, of course.
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During my conversation with Tucker Carlson this week, we talked about, well, we talked about the issue
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of, you know, gender roles in marriage. We also talked about the, right at the top of the interview,
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the absurdity of gay adoption and gay parenthood. Here's a clip of that exchange that Tucker's team
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posted last night. Here it is. You know, gay adoption. This isn't the only argument against
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it, but I think it is a worthwhile argument. There's never been a society anywhere on earth,
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anywhere, period, where they have had two men in a romantic relationship starting a family.
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That's never existed. It's always been a man and a woman start a family or in certain ancient
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civilizations and even some primitive ones today, you might have a man and several women. You might
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have polygamy. That's a pretty common feature, I would say. Yeah, certainly common, but you never
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had, and why do you have polygamy? I don't support polygamy, but there was a logic to it, especially in
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ancient times. Yes. You got to create people, you know, and the whole point of the family is to make
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children and care for them. A family that's headed up by two gay men is, it's an abomination. It's
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just, it doesn't. Well, it never happened before and now it's happening and that's why we call it
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progress, right? This is progress. It's something that was never been done. Yeah. It's progress in
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the way that cancer progresses. Now, plenty of people on the right or right adjacent, I guess,
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took great exception to this. Glenn Greenwald is one of them. He tweeted in response,
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one has to be morally deranged or totally ignorant of the grim realities of kids lingering without
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parents in orphanages, shelters, and foster care, only to be expelled at 18 with no support,
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to believe that that dark hell is better for kids than being adopted by gay couples.
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Morally deranged, he says. The view that two men should not be allowed to adopt children,
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that was held by nearly everyone in this country and everyone across the world
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until very recently. Barack Obama was against gay adoption when he first ran for president.
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So was every other elected Democrat, pretty much. Any elected Democrat over the age of 50
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was probably at one point opposed to both gay marriage and gay adoption. In fact, gay adoption
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was so obviously wrong to so many people for so long that it wasn't even discussed. It wasn't debated.
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It was just intuitively understood that children need a mother and a father. We won't, we're not
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going to let two men adopt children for the same reason that we wouldn't let a, you know, polyamorous
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polycule adopt a child. Children need a mother and a father. We are not going to deliberately put a
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child into a disordered environment where he is not only deprived of a mother or a father,
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but where the role of a mother or father has been replaced in an unnatural and confusing way.
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Now this was always understood. And now in the blink of an eye, what was always understood
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is morally deranged. The thing that everybody believed forever until approximately last Tuesday
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is not just wrong, we're told, but shocking, upsetting, baffling. This is the game that's played.
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And I, for one, am entirely sick of it. I've always been sick of it. Now, look, not everything
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that is old or traditional is automatically good. Of course, slavery is old and traditional and still
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practiced in non-Western countries today. It's also very bad. But there are basic truths about how human
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society is fundamentally structured. And these are truths that have withstood the test of time.
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These are truths that have, while civilization held fast to them, have allowed it to flourish and advance
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in remarkable and seemingly miraculous ways. Truths that minutes after our society abandoned them
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immediately led to decline and chaos and confusion. And one of those truths is that a child needs a
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mother and a father. Only a man and a woman can have a baby or should have a baby. And another one of
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those truths is that men and women are different and so have different roles in the home and in society.
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This was an idea so basic that there wasn't even a term for it. We only started labeling it gender
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roles at the moment that we decided to abandon it. And I would say that the results of that decision
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have not been good. Divorce, broken homes, declining birth rates, 60 million dead babies.
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And those are just the early returns, really. And that's why we cannot be embarrassed to hold to a
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system that is ancient and timeless and proven, tested, vindicated by the testimony of our ancestors
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and by thousands of years of human experience beyond that. As conservatives, if that is not worth
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All right. Well, Jasmine Crockett has, as we do our weekly Jasmine Crockett is Stupid segment,
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she has some thoughts on Trump's deportations. And so this is actually really insightful because
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it's all about, it's all about imagining the shoe on the other foot. Watch this.
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As far as I'm concerned, you randomly kidnapping folk and you throwing them out of the country
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against their civil rights, against their constitutional rights. And frankly, how would
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they feel if some other country decided that they were going to just start throwing people
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randomly in our country? Like that, that is absolutely insane. So yes, all I got to say
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Yeah. Wow. That's a, that's a great point. Can you imagine, can you imagine, can you imagine what
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it would be like if some other country started sending people to our country? Can you, can you
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possibly fathom what that might be like? I mean, that, that's an incredibly insightful point by Jasmine
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Crockett. I, can you, can you, can you imagine, can you imagine other countries sending their people
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to our country? I mean, just close, close your eyes, close your eyes and imagine that. Imagine,
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imagine say, I don't know, hordes of foreigners being shipped here by the millions every single
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year. Imagine it. It's impossible. You can't, you can't wrap your mind around this wild hypothetical.
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We just, we can't relate. We cannot relate to all the other countries that have that problem,
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but we don't. So Jasmine Crockett is one of the great geniuses of our, of our time. She has
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masterfully put this, this whole immigration problem into perspective. She's really changed the way
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that I look at it. Changed my life really. Uh, because now I have so much compassion for those,
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those other countries that have foreigners invading. I'm so glad that we don't, I'm so
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glad we don't have that problem. Uh, great, great point, Jasmine. Um, speaking of the problem,
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we don't have, the dam has officially broken with the Maryland man, Kilmer, Kilmer Abrego Garcia.
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Yesterday we talked about the latest revelation, another court filing, this one from 2020, where
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his wife says that he's violent and dangerous. And I said yesterday that this is still only the tip
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of the iceberg. The Dems have hitched their wagon to this guy and they've rallied around him. They
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celebrated him. They've canonized him. Um, and now they're, they're going to have to own every awful
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thing about him. And there are a lot of awful things and more still to come. So today we now
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have the, which had not previously been released. We have the body cam footage from the Tennessee
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highway patrol. This is from back in 2022 when he was pulled over on suspicion of human smuggling.
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And now we have a little bit of the, of that body cam footage. Let's watch it.
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How dark are your windows? Huh? How dark's the back windows?
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With windows? Standby. How dark are they? The color. Yeah. From, from Texas is, is good.
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How many, how many rows have you got in here? Four? Where? Four seats? Four rows of seats? Yeah,
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three, three seats. Yeah, with, with, with, with here. Did y'all put an extra one in? Huh? Did y'all
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put another one in? No. They come like this? Here's the, the, the, the truck. I've never, I've never seen
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one with that many seats in it. The other one. What do you say? It's my boat. I, I said I've never seen
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one with that many seats in it. Oh really? Yeah. That's why I was asking if you could put an extra one in. Yeah.
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You know what you got, right? Huh? You know what you got here, right? Uh, no.
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He's, uh, he's, uh, he's hauling these people for money is what he's doing, but sometimes they kill
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mingled dope. So you hear the other cop saying that he's, he's, um, hauling these people for money.
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And in the full video, he, you could see Abrego Garcia's changes his story multiple times. He's
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trying to explain why he's, what he's doing exactly. We see that he has eight people in the car,
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all of them illegal aliens, just like he is. He's got 1400 bucks in cash or whatever it was,
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which was his payment. We can assume he's driving on a suspended license
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and the cops called immigration enforcement to come get him. And, but they didn't, they were,
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they didn't show up. So Garcia was allowed to just go on his way without, with a, with a citation.
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And that was it. So I guess we're supposed to believe that this illegal immigrant was driving
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eight other illegal immigrants in the middle of the night with a bunch of cash and blacked out
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windows and a suspended license and couldn't explain exactly what he was doing or where he was coming
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from, where he was going. And he was doing all that, but it wasn't actually human smuggling.
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It just looked like human smuggling because that happens all the time, right? I mean,
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that happens to the best of us. If you had a dollar for every time you did something that
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looked like human smuggling, but wasn't, well, you'd have no dollars, I guess,
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because a normal person can go his entire life without ever being suspected of human smuggling,
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even one time. I can say that about, I don't know about you, but I've never,
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I've never been suspected of human smuggling. That's not a thing that happens to normal people.
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Okay. If you're suspected of human smuggling, it's like 99.99% chance that you're guilty of it.
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It's like a very specific set of circumstances that could come off that way.
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And it's hard to imagine an innocent thing a person could do that would seem like human smuggling,
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but isn't. So, but I don't know, just really bad luck, I guess. Really bad luck, even worse luck,
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because also around the same time, he was found at a Home Depot in the Home Depot parking lot,
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hanging out with a group of MS-13 gang members. And he was also wearing MS-13 clothing.
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But that's another innocent mistake. You know, he just accidentally ended up wearing,
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ended up hanging out with MS-13 gang members, wearing their clothing. Happens all the time.
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At least once a week, I can say I'm about to leave the house and my wife will say,
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what are you wearing? I'll say, well, I'm just wearing it. But you're wearing the MS-13 clothes
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again, you silly goose. And then I say, oh shoot, my mistake. You know? And that's,
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so it's not at all suspicious. Of course, in all seriousness though, no one believes this.
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The Democrats least of all believe it. It's extremely clear what this guy is all about. And there's more.
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And this is new today also. We have the audio of his wife in 2020 in court, begging the judge to
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protect her from her husband, who she says is violent and dangerous. Let's listen to that.
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I came to fill out a protective order. I think it was in December. But I didn't show up to the court
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because his family like washed my brain telling me that his dad was sick and not to do it.
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Um, so it's, I, I didn't do anything. But after that, it was like, um, I would call the police.
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I have a lot of police reports and I kept trying to get to the door basement to try to open the door.
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And then like, he pushed me. So then when I was able to go outside to get a phone, I call 911 from
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a disconnected phone. Um, now they took a long time to get to the house. It was probably like 20,
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30 minutes. So I saw a neighbor, um, walking his dog and I opened the door and I was like, help.
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And then when he heard me, like he grabbed me from my hair and then he slapped me. And then the
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neighbor, like he didn't know what to do. He didn't know what to react. I have pictures of the evidence,
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like all the bruises, because even on Wednesday, he hit me like around like three in the morning,
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he would just wake up and like hit me. And then last Saturday for my daughter's birthday party,
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before I went to my daughter's birthday party, um, he slapped me three times. And then last week,
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I did call the police. My sister called the police because he hit me in front of my sister.
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So that's not, it's not new information, but we can hear the audio. And of course, um,
00:24:48.300
and of course it bears repeating that this is all, this stuff is all just icing on the cake.
00:24:53.420
The main reason that this guy should have been deported is that he is an illegal immigrant.
00:25:00.140
He's not supposed to be in this country. That's all the reason that we should need.
00:25:05.420
All of the rest of this stuff is only, uh, the, the exclamation point at the end of the sentence.
00:25:15.740
And it also shows that like these, these people are not enriching our country.
00:25:22.140
I mean, even if they were, I wouldn't, again, you're illegal. You're not supposed to be here.
00:25:25.860
I don't care if you're enriching us or not. I don't know. It's, it's like, by definition,
00:25:29.700
you can't be because you are undermining our sovereignty and the rule of law. And it's,
00:25:34.820
you can't enrich a country by, by doing that, but it doesn't, that's also clearly not the case
00:25:43.300
because remember we were initially told about this story that this is a Maryland father gainfully
00:25:50.900
employed, right? Contributing to his community, paying his taxes. Why would we want to deport
00:25:58.740
somebody like that? And then we come to find out that this is a low life beating his wife, allegedly
00:26:04.500
hanging out in the home Depot with gang members, uh, can barely speak English.
00:26:10.740
Somehow to me of all of the two video clips we just played, that was the most annoying thing about
00:26:16.260
it to me. That, that to me was the, was the most offensive. I mean, all the other stuff is really
00:26:20.660
bad too, but I'm, I think like any other legitimate American citizen, I'm really sick of that.
00:26:29.220
And it's not a small thing. It's not like a small complaint that we, that this country is filled with
00:26:34.180
people who can't even speak the damn language. I'm so tired of it. Like I, I take it personally at this
00:26:40.340
point. I do. When I encounter somebody in this country who can't speak the language,
00:26:45.460
I take it personally. Like, what do you have some freaking respect for this country? If you're
00:26:51.300
going to come here, at least learn how to speak to people, at least learn what our language is.
00:26:57.540
And, uh, and yet you have these illegal immigrants who come here and legal immigrants too, who come
00:27:03.860
and they could be here for like 20 years and never, and never bother learning the language.
00:27:08.260
I find that it's entitled. It's, it's disgraceful. Uh, that, that's your obligation. You know,
00:27:17.860
something, if you're going to come to this country, you, it is your obligation to learn the language.
00:27:24.180
Um, I, in my own country, I should not encounter people who I can't understand. That's not,
00:27:29.860
I shouldn't have to deal with that in my country. So that's what, that's, that's how the country's
00:27:36.660
being enriched by Abrego Garcia. He's here, can barely speak the language, um, getting mixed up
00:27:42.980
with gang members, beating his wife. So not somebody that we need here or want here, I would say.
00:27:55.220
So some, uh, celebrity news, Robert De Niro's son, one of his, I think seven or eight children by
00:28:01.460
four or five different women. Uh, one of them, 29 years old has now come out as trans and, um,
00:28:08.820
media is pretty excited about that. Let's, uh, I think this is a little video from our friends at
00:28:15.300
pink news. I believe let's let's watch. Robert De Niro's daughter has come out as trans in an
00:28:21.620
exclusive interview with them magazine. Erin De Niro opened up about navigating her transition
00:28:26.500
journey and her identity. She said, trans women being honest and open, especially in public spaces,
00:28:32.020
helped her realize, maybe it's not too late for me. A few media publications commented on Erin's
00:28:37.140
transformation after she was snapped by paparazzi last month, wearing heels and long pink locks,
00:28:42.500
calling her look rebellious and barely recognizable. Commenting on this, the 29 year old tells them,
00:28:48.020
not only did they get information wrong about me, they just sort of reminded me that people really
00:28:52.420
don't know anything about me. She shared how her childhood experiences affected and shaped her into
00:28:56.980
the woman she is today. She says that she was ridiculed and excluded by her peers for being
00:29:02.020
feminine, bigger bodied and different in ways she could not yet describe. As the child of Robert De
00:29:06.900
Niro and Tukey Smith, Erin also shared how growing up biracial further complicated her search for
00:29:11.700
belonging, although her parents were supportive of her queerness. Erin adds that she came out as a gay
00:29:16.340
man in high school, but faced ridicule for not fitting the mainstream beauty standard, white, thin,
00:29:21.300
muscular and masculine. Her influences include black women, such as Laverne Cox, Marsha P. Johnson,
00:29:26.980
Jules LeBron, Michaela J. Rodriguez, Naomi Campbell and Raven Simone. The aspiring model and
00:29:32.420
actor has established a signature look. Pink locks and pink dresses or tops. I think a big part of my
00:29:37.860
transition is also the influence black women have had on me, she added in her interview with them.
00:29:42.740
Erin shares that she has predominantly been kept out of the limelight, but is keen to share her story
00:29:47.460
and be seen, particularly in the wake of Trump's executive orders affecting the trans community.
00:29:52.740
She wants queer people of color and bigger bodied people to have an Alex Consani and a Hunter Schaefer.
00:29:58.420
So there is no greater evidence that you failed as a father than this. You failed so badly as a father
00:30:08.020
that your son has given up on being a man. You know, there are a lot of factors that go into the
00:30:16.180
trans explosion that we've seen over the past decade. This is definitely one of them.
00:30:19.940
A lack of strong male role models, a lack of male led homes. Robert De Niro obviously was not a constant
00:30:27.300
presence in his son's life. He couldn't have been with four different families.
00:30:31.460
And De Niro has also proven himself to be a weak, pathetic man in so many ways, which is a shame.
00:30:37.860
He used to be a great actor, truly great. Not anymore. And now his son has given up on being a man.
00:30:48.580
Although he is still a man and will always be, he's attempting to renounce it. He's attempting to
00:30:54.180
renounce his manhood, which is the most severe indictment of his father that he could possibly
00:30:59.380
deliver. Because as a father, it's your job to teach your son how to be a man, which is not
00:31:05.700
something that boys can just figure out on their own, as our experience in society has shown. Now,
00:31:10.580
yeah, biologically, a boy will become a man no matter what you teach him. And there are many aspects
00:31:16.260
of masculinity that just come naturally, that are instinctual, biological. But the question of
00:31:22.340
how to be a man in this world, what a man should do, how a man should be, how a man should carry
00:31:30.020
himself. These are things that a boy needs his father to show him. And he will follow in his
00:31:37.780
father's footsteps, follow his father's example. If his dad is absent, or if his dad is a weak, pathetic,
00:31:46.500
you know, nothing of a man, then he will look for replacements. And I think what you see in a lot of
00:31:56.660
these cases is that he turns to his mom as a replacement for his dad. And then the boy will
00:32:07.380
become effeminate, or he'll try to go all the way and actually become a woman.
00:32:11.460
Woman. Now, there are also cases, particularly when it's a younger boy. Now, in this case,
00:32:17.700
this guy is 29 years old. But when it's a younger boy, of course, there are many cases we've seen
00:32:23.700
where the father is not in the child's life, but not by any choice of his own. The father's pushed out
00:32:32.580
by the mother, taken away from the father. But still, the result is the same. Now it's not the
00:32:39.780
father's fault, but he's no longer there to be able to influence his son, show his son how to be a
00:32:44.580
man, and that what ends up happening in so many cases. The child ends up being transed through no
00:32:51.380
fault of the child's own either, obviously. But that's because he's now, the father has been removed
00:33:00.020
from the equation in his life. And so now he has no male role model. Now he's looking to his mom.
00:33:07.780
And so it's not a big surprise that it goes that way.
00:33:13.460
And we see this, and not just with the trans stuff. I mean, in the case of a boy growing up in the inner
00:33:18.340
city without a father, he's looking around for that male role model. He's going to look around at his
00:33:23.460
peers. He'll look in the media. He'll look to rappers and so on and come up with this cartoonish
00:33:30.020
idea of masculinity and become a cartoon man. And that's why we have so many cartoon men walking
00:33:36.980
around. And it all comes back to a lack of masculine role models. And this is a very clear example of it.
00:33:47.380
All right. I guess we'll deal with this right now. I have been viciously attacked. I've been attacked on the
00:34:02.580
Daily Wire website, no less. As I mentioned yesterday, Jacob, who is a producer here, and you've seen him on the
00:34:11.700
channel because he's gotten wrecked by me in Mortal Kombat at least three dozen times, I think, by my
00:34:17.360
account. And he's penned an op-ed attempting to debunk my criticisms of Revenge of the Sith.
00:34:24.660
Jacob's a big Star Wars fan and heard my segment a few days ago and wept. He was up all night crying,
00:34:30.160
from what I understand, from what I assume anyway, multiple nights. When I saw him at work yesterday,
00:34:37.120
it was just like his cheeks were stained with tears. And amid his tears, he wrote this. Here's the
00:34:46.320
headline, why Matt Walsh is wrong about Revenge of the Sith. So let's go through this. I haven't
00:34:55.840
even really read this, but we'll read it now. Matt Walsh is a man of many talents, a popular
00:35:01.860
podcaster, a notable documentarian, a feared fisherman, and a surprisingly good Mortal Kombat
00:35:05.980
player. Okay, we're off to a good start. I mean, actually, so far, I agree. I agree so far. We can just
00:35:11.420
end it there. See, Jacob, you should stop while you're ahead. That should have been the end of the,
00:35:16.620
Matt Walsh is a man of many talents. The end. Thanks for reading.
00:35:23.680
There's one persistent trait, however, that must be addressed, his passionate hatred of Star Wars.
00:35:28.420
I discovered Walsh's animosity for Star Wars in May of 2023 while listening to his show.
00:35:32.880
Okay, all right, we don't need the biography. We don't need your whole life story.
00:35:35.660
Uh, last Thursday, theaters nationwide launched a week-long re-release of Star Wars Episode III,
00:35:42.000
Revenge of the Sith, to celebrate the film's 20th anniversary. The film stands out not only for its
00:35:46.140
stunning cinematography, one-of-a-kind soundtrack, and compelling life lessons. What's the life lesson?
00:35:54.600
Don't jump around on lava? Is that, that's the life lesson? But also,
00:36:01.440
as the final Star Wars entry before progressive-infused Disney acquisition,
00:36:07.020
Walsh apparently did not recognize the exceptional film for what it is. After taking his children to
00:36:10.320
see in theaters, he took decks and attacked the movie. I'll now address his unfounded criticisms.
00:36:15.420
Okay, all right. This was my challenge yesterday when we talked about this at length,
00:36:19.960
at too great a length, some would, some would argue. Um,
00:36:23.380
you didn't know you were going to get three segments this week on Revenge of the Sith,
00:36:30.000
but you did. That's what you're getting. That's what you're getting, whether you like it or not.
00:36:34.600
Uh, but that was my challenge yesterday. I said, can anyone, like, I, I, I laid out my criticisms.
00:36:39.720
Don't just, I don't, the fact that you're sad about it is not important to me, is not interesting.
00:36:45.940
Go through my criticisms and address them. That's what I want. It's my challenge to the
00:36:50.440
Star Wars apologists out there. And so it looks like this is what Jacob is setting up to do. So,
00:36:56.320
all right. His first issue is with the film's dialogue. Walsh claims Revenge of the Sith has
00:37:00.400
the worst dialogue he's ever heard in a mainstream Hollywood film. As for his claim, he quotes a
00:37:03.980
romantic scene between Anakin Skywalker and, um, Padme Amidala. Is that really her name? Padme Amidala?
00:37:13.520
And the, the dialogue again, Anakin says, you're so beautiful. Padme says, it's only because I'm so in
00:37:18.220
love. Anakin, no, it's because I'm so in love with you. Walsh leaves out the second half of the
00:37:24.120
scene, which reveals the lines are not poorly written, but instead an intentional foreshadowing
00:37:27.240
of what's, what's come later. The scene continues. Padme, so love has blinded you? Anakin, well,
00:37:33.800
that's not exactly what I meant. Padme, but it's probably true. You think that helps your case? You
00:37:40.540
think I was doing George Lucas a favor by not citing the rest of that scene? It gets worse.
00:37:45.720
You think a cliche, like, love has blinded you? Okay, a cliche that you can find in like every
00:37:54.360
80s song ever written? You think that makes it better? This is better dialogue now?
00:38:02.040
At this point in the film, Anakin believes his wife is going to die in childbirth because of a vision
00:38:05.920
he has in his sleep. As the primary antagonist, Emperor Palpatine, not Ovaltine, okay, tells him
00:38:11.300
that committing to the dark side is only the way to save her. This and his blinding love for Padme leads
00:38:15.560
him to commit the atrocities he does later in the film. Pure genius from George Lucas, who Walsh
00:38:19.820
claims should be arrested. He did say that. Walsh's next criticism of the film is that it has abysmal
00:38:24.980
action. Well, hang on a second. That's your defense of the dialogue? That's it? Your defense of the
00:38:31.780
dialogue is to just explain what it meant? Yeah, Jacob, I know what it meant. I know that. It's very
00:38:39.880
obvious. It's very on the nose. Okay, it could not have been more obvious. George Lucas screams
00:38:45.420
his dialogue into a megaphone while beating you over the head with a shovel. I mean, he makes it as
00:38:49.580
it could not be more clear. I understand what it meant. That's the problem. It's so on the nose.
00:38:55.520
It's cliche. We find out what characters are feeling and thinking by them just saying it. That's not good
00:39:01.000
script writing. That's not interesting dialogue. If a character is sad and he walks into the room and says,
00:39:05.840
I'm sad. That's bad dialogue. Okay? And adding a cliche to it makes it even worse. If he walks in
00:39:14.820
the room and says, I'm so sad that I could cry a whole ocean of tears. Three oceans of tears have
00:39:23.680
come out of my eyes. I have the anger of a hot sun. Anger boils inside me like a thousand suns.
00:39:35.320
That doesn't make it better. So now it's on the nose. You're broadcasting everything and it's
00:39:41.560
cliches. All the worst things. So I'm not convinced by that. Let me give you, okay, so
00:39:49.920
here's one random, so just so you understand what I mean. One random example of good script writing,
00:39:58.120
and I only make, because I was thinking about this movie today for some reason, or somebody
00:40:01.780
mentioned it maybe on X. And I'm not saying this is like the best dialogue of all time,
00:40:05.440
just like an example, just one little example of what I mean, of what good, how a good script
00:40:10.820
writer would, does this. So there's a film that came out recently called The Iron Claw, and it's
00:40:16.180
a true story about the Von Erich family who were a family of professional wrestlers in the 80s and
00:40:21.840
early 90s. And it's a brilliant film. I don't care about the professional wrestling at all. I didn't know
00:40:26.420
anything about this story. Even though it's a famous story, I didn't know about it. I really
00:40:31.740
liked the film. I thought it was very, very good. It's a tragic story. The patriarch of the family,
00:40:35.980
Fritz Von Erich, was a professional wrestler. He had six sons with his wife, Doris, I think. And
00:40:42.880
all but one of the sons in real life died, like in their 20s or 30s. And actually, in the movie,
00:40:50.260
they made it, if anything, they undersold it. Where, you know, in real life, there were five
00:40:56.460
sons who died, I think. And in the movie, it's only four. And they didn't do the, they didn't,
00:41:00.060
they didn't add the, they took a whole son out because they just thought it was so tragic that
00:41:04.360
it would seem unbelievable. The audience wouldn't buy it. Anyway, so in real life, after the death of
00:41:09.520
their fifth son, Fritz and Doris get divorced. And the marriage falls apart. You know, Fritz in the,
00:41:16.280
in the film is portrayed as like emotionally distant and abusive and domineering and all
00:41:20.620
these things. Well, in the, in the script, by the end of the film, they want to show us that the
00:41:25.520
marriage fell apart and that Doris leaves him. And in the movie, Doris is portrayed throughout the
00:41:31.540
movie as like this passive character and she doesn't stand up for her sons at all and all this
00:41:36.460
kind of stuff. So by the end, they want to show like some kind of resolution and they want to convey
00:41:42.840
this quickly and poignantly without beating you over the head with it. And the George Lucas approach
00:41:48.060
would be to have a scene where Doris yells at Fritz and says, I'm angry about the fact that you're
00:41:53.880
abusive. I'm so sad and angry. I'm, I'm leaving. To be clear, I'm divorcing you because I'm so sad.
00:42:02.440
My heart feels like it's broken. But in this film made by a good filmmaker and written by a talented
00:42:08.880
writer, an actual artist, all we see is a scene at the end where Fritz walks into the kitchen around
00:42:13.700
dinnertime. Kitchen's dark. There's no food on the stove. Fritz looks over to Doris who's sitting
00:42:18.560
across the room and painting. And he says, uh, says, what are you doing? She says, I'm painting.
00:42:23.760
And he says, well, what's for dinner? And she says, I didn't make anything. I wasn't hungry.
00:42:29.040
And then he kind of stands there and lingers. And then he, and then he just walks out of the room.
00:42:32.840
And that's the end of that scene. And we don't see those characters again. That is the conclusion
00:42:36.060
of their story. That is good script writing because, uh, it, it, it's there. The scene
00:42:45.000
symbolizes the, the dissolution of the marriage. They never talk about their marriage. She doesn't
00:42:49.280
say, I'm leaving you. They don't need to. The writer communicates the point without having the
00:42:54.400
characters actually talk about it. Okay. Because what she, she now is focused on herself. She's not
00:43:00.600
serving her husband anymore. And they, and they symbolize that by this simple fact that not only did
00:43:05.560
not make him dinner, but her reason for not making it is that she wasn't hungry. Like she's not even
00:43:10.840
thinking about him anymore. And that's the scene. Okay. And that's, that is subtext. You're supposed
00:43:16.200
to have subtext in a, in a, in a good script, but with George Lucas, it's only text. And that's my
00:43:21.440
issue with it. Um, anyway, uh, okay. So Jacob, Walsh's next criticism of the film is that it has abysmal
00:43:29.540
action choreography. To me, this attack is the most absurd. The final fight between Anakin, Obi-Wan
00:43:34.080
Kenobi Master versus Apprentice is one of the most iconic fight scenes in cinema, cinema history.
00:43:38.800
Numerous outlets such as WatchMojo, ScreenRant, and MovieWeb rank the battle as one of the greatest
00:43:44.260
sword fights in movie history. Oh, well, if MovieWeb and WatchMojo liked it, then never mind.
00:43:51.420
Oh, I didn't know that. You know, when I thought that it was lame choreography, I didn't know that
00:43:54.540
MovieWeb and WatchMojo said that it was a great scene. It's the weirdest appeal to authority I've ever
00:44:00.900
seen. Um, let's see. Okay. Like many things Walsh has criticized in the film, the seemingly risky move
00:44:10.100
Anakin used was intentional. All right. I, I, I don't, okay. And then we get, now he's nerding out and we're
00:44:18.520
getting a lot of background information about Star Wars. Walsh's final objection to the film is that it took
00:44:23.920
itself too seriously. He expands on this by claiming you can't be campy and fun and also have a mass child
00:44:28.500
slaughter in the same film. Most of all, it's just criticism come from a lack of looking beneath the
00:44:32.600
surface, taking everything at face value. There is nothing beneath the surface. That's my whole point.
00:44:36.160
That's the whole problem here. Revenge of the Sith was always meant to be lighthearted in the beginning
00:44:40.160
and tragic in the end. After nearly three decades of fans left without a backstory, the purpose of the movie
00:44:44.260
was to show how Hollywood's most iconic villain, Darth Vader, transformed from a cunning warrior for good
00:44:49.720
to the embodiment of evil. Uh, following the classic hero's journey, literary archetype, we witness
00:44:55.400
Anakin's lighthearted upbringing in episodes one and two and his tragic fall in the end. Okay. I get
00:44:59.100
it. And then he concludes with, we can only hope Matt Walsh will read this piece and watch it again
00:45:04.600
with an open mind. I don't, I don't think I need to watch it again. Um, yeah, I'm, I'm aware of the,
00:45:13.960
of the point that they're trying to show his descent into evil. I get that. I don't have a problem with
00:45:18.420
that. I don't have a problem with it conceptually. I mean, there are a lot of films that have done that.
00:45:23.960
There are a lot of stories that have done that books that have done that. That's, that's the
00:45:27.540
Godfather. Okay. That's Godfather one and two. We start with Michael Corleone and, uh, and he's a
00:45:32.840
war hero and all this. And by the end of, you know, once you get to the, to the end of part two,
00:45:36.960
he's murdering his own brother. Right. Um, so I have no problem with that. The problem is that it's,
00:45:42.660
but it's the, the tonally, it's tonally schizophrenic in the same movie, in the same movie,
00:45:50.220
it's kind of goofy and lighthearted and all of this, or it's trying to be, but then also,
00:45:56.080
oh, look, he's going to murder a whole room full of children. And, uh, it's tonally inconsistent.
00:46:02.060
Okay. The Godfather, a tragic story, right? Uh, it's, but it's tonally consistent throughout
00:46:10.420
the entire thing. All right. I'm not convinced. I have to say I am not convinced.
00:46:16.180
First, I did have one other thing I wanted to mention, uh, briefly, the Ohio department of,
00:46:22.140
do we have time? Yeah, we sure do. Okay. The Ohio department of transportation released, uh,
00:46:27.440
a video of an accident on the highway. They just released this.
00:46:31.340
And this resonated with me because I see this exact thing on the highway here in Nashville all the time.
00:46:36.640
And, uh, and we'll put it up. There's, there's no audio to it, but you can see the, the,
00:46:42.100
the accident here is on the highway. There's a red van, uh, about to miss its exit. And the person in
00:46:50.020
the red van stops dead on the highway in order to not miss the exit. And then every other car
00:46:58.260
behind the red van has to stop. And then next thing you know, there's a massive pileup and like
00:47:01.920
three or four cars get into an accident. And then the red van just drives away.
00:47:05.340
And I see this exact thing all the time. In fact, I've complained about this exact scenario
00:47:10.080
on the show before someone's going to miss an exit rather than just keep driving and get off
00:47:14.760
at a different exit and turn around. Instead, they either whip across multiple lanes of traffic or
00:47:19.260
even worse, they slow down or worse than that, they come to a dead stop on the highway as if there's
00:47:25.180
a stop sign right in the middle of the highway. And, uh, and, uh, and then they try to make their
00:47:28.940
exit. I see some variation of this all the time. I've said before, I think we've reached
00:47:33.240
crisis levels of bad driving in this country. I do. I think it's like a real problem. And the
00:47:37.960
data actually backs this up. It's not just anecdotal. I think it's partly because of,
00:47:43.340
I don't know who was in that red van. If I had to guess and I look, I could be wrong. I'm totally
00:47:48.260
guessing. I didn't look this up. Maybe there's this information might be known because whoever
00:47:52.100
it is, they should be prosecuted. Cause that's like, it's not, I don't know how you, it's not
00:47:56.140
technically a hit and run because they didn't hit anyone, but they caused a hit and run or whatever
00:48:01.000
that caused a hit and then ran. So I don't know who was in the van.
00:48:07.660
I'm guessing either a woman or an immigrant. And I'm just guessing. And that's, again,
00:48:13.380
that's data-based and that's just based on the data. And because part of what is causing all
00:48:19.440
the terrible driving, I think is unchecked immigration. We have a lot of third world
00:48:23.620
drivers on the road who drive like they're in the third world. Because if you've ever driven in a
00:48:29.600
third world country, you know, that there are no rules. There's no law. It's total chaos.
00:48:34.600
Everyone's just doing whatever they want. There are cars and bikes and scooters and cows all sharing
00:48:40.160
the same road, going whatever speed they want. Uh, and, uh, no stop signs, no yielding, no traffic
00:48:47.260
lights, just chaos. And now we're importing people who drive that way. And, uh, and I think that's part
00:48:54.520
of it, but it's not just third worlders. There's been a general decline in driving quality, which
00:48:59.460
is why we need to, first of all, significantly raise the bar for who gets a license, significantly
00:49:06.060
lower the bar for losing your license. Like if you do that, what we just watched there, even if you
00:49:12.060
don't, even if you don't cause an accident, if you do it, you should lose your license for like five
00:49:17.040
years and intensive driving safety courses before you get your license back. And, uh, the driver's
00:49:24.260
exam should be a lot more difficult and there should be a tier system. This is my main, this is
00:49:28.180
my, my innovation that I proposed before that I think is, I personally think it's pretty good
00:49:33.840
because not all drivers should be treated the same or have the same privileges or access to the same
00:49:41.820
roads in my opinion. So if you go, I think what I've pitched is if you go a decade without causing
00:49:49.220
an accident or getting any moving violations. And if in that time you've driven for a minimum of,
00:49:57.000
let's say 150,000, 200,000 miles, then you should be a tier one driver. And what does that mean? You
00:50:04.260
get your own lane on the highway. Forget about the carpool lane. I don't care. Carpool, like you're not
00:50:09.640
special just because you have more people in the car. And I say that as someone who's frequently
00:50:13.920
driving with eight people in the car, uh, eight of my own family members, you know, not illegal
00:50:19.040
immigrants that I'm human smuggling. So, but that doesn't, why do you get a special lane just because
00:50:24.380
you have more people in your car? That doesn't mean, no, that lane, forget about carpool. And it's
00:50:29.480
what the symbol is like a diamond. So it should be, you're a diamond driver. You're tier one and you get
00:50:35.500
your own lane and only tier ones are allowed in that lane. Uh, you, you pay lower tolls,
00:50:41.520
all kinds of privileges. And cause as a tier one driver myself, I'm getting lumped in with all
00:50:50.920
these tier twos and tier threes. And, uh, and I, I don't, I think that causes a lot of chaos.
00:50:58.080
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00:51:05.640
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I have to confess that before today, I hadn't heard of a man named Dworkish Patel. But from what
00:53:15.060
I can tell, he hosts a successful podcast that's very popular in Silicon Valley. His marketing slogan
00:53:20.240
states that he conducts deeply researched interviews with some of the most powerful people
00:53:23.740
in the country, which is certainly an admirable objective. But if I may be so bold, I have to offer
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some criticism of Dworkish Patel's latest episode, which features the CEO of Meta, Mark Zuckerberg.
00:53:35.020
It's one of the more unsettling conversations that you'll hear. And a big part of the reason it's
00:53:40.300
unsettling is that Mark Zuckerberg gets away with making certain claims that are obviously false.
00:53:44.200
And instead of being challenged, Zuckerberg proceeds to state his vision for the future of
00:53:48.540
artificial intelligence, which is premised in some cases on complete nonsense, we are barreling
00:53:53.920
towards an AI revolution. And the people leading this revolution are not exactly inspiring confidence
00:53:59.140
at the moment. And the first notable moment in this interview comes when Dworkish Patel asks
00:54:04.360
Zuckerberg about some of the more practical day-to-day uses for artificial intelligence. And Zuckerberg
00:54:09.500
responds by saying that already people are using Meta's in-house artificial intelligence to have
00:54:13.900
difficult conversations about situations in their lives. Watch.
00:54:18.700
I do think that people are going to use AI for a lot of these social tasks. Already one of the main
00:54:25.540
things that we see people using Meta AI for is kind of talking through difficult conversations that they
00:54:31.180
need to have with people in their life. It's like, okay, I'm having this issue with my girlfriend or
00:54:39.100
whatever. Like, help me have this conversation. Or like, I need to have this hard conversation with
00:54:43.180
my boss at work. Like, how do I have that conversation? That's pretty helpful. And then I
00:54:48.840
think as the personalization loop kicks in and the AI just starts to get to know you better and better,
00:54:59.120
So already in my mind, this is incredibly dystopian. There's not any scenario where this could ever be
00:55:08.100
an improvement, where people are consulting AI about how to have difficult conversations. That's
00:55:12.920
why you, like, that's what people are for. That's why you should have relationships with people. You
00:55:17.640
should have people you care about, people you trust, friends, you know, spouses, parents,
00:55:25.200
you know, and the people who know you actually know you and care about you and have wisdom and AI
00:55:33.740
cannot have wisdom. It's impossible. An AI can only have information. Uh, and, and, but it cannot have
00:55:42.980
wisdom. Uh, so that's pretty horrifying that people are consulting AI about how do they talk to their
00:55:51.060
girlfriend. Ed Zuckerberg, you know, relays this like it's a, oh, this is a wonderful thing.
00:55:58.060
Now, meta, meta AI is, is pretty helpful already. According to Mark, Mark Zuckerberg,
00:56:01.760
you can talk to AI about complicated, challenging relationship issues that you're having with your
00:56:04.800
girlfriend. And with time, it's only going to get better. But the implication of what he says is
00:56:09.160
that meta, meta's AI is already a functional product that you can rely on. You can treat it like
00:56:14.400
a therapist, essentially. This assertion went unchallenged in this deeply researched interview by
00:56:19.460
Dworkish Patel. And that's really too bad because just a few days ago, there was some news concerning
00:56:25.280
meta AI that would seem to contradict what Zuckerberg is saying. Robbie Starbuck, the conservative activist
00:56:30.760
who has led successful campaigns to eliminate DEI at several major corporations, filed a federal lawsuit
00:56:35.840
against meta, alleging, among other things, that meta's AI will repeatedly fabricate false information
00:56:42.340
about him. And at this point, it's not really an allegation. It's clearly true. Starbuck has uploaded
00:56:47.760
screenshots and video footage of meta's AI falsely claiming that he was charged with a crime because
00:56:53.440
of his involvement in January 6th, even though Starbuck was nowhere near Washington on January 6th,
00:56:58.660
was never charged with any crime. Meta AI also falsely stated that Starbuck engages in Holocaust
00:57:08.580
Robbie Starbuck was involved in the January 6th US Capitol riot, filming and promoting the event.
00:57:14.760
He's also associated with extremist groups and individuals, amplifying their views. His actions
00:57:21.060
and affiliations have raised concerns about his ideologies. Which extremist groups and figures is
00:57:26.200
he associated with? Robbie Starbuck is associated with extremist figures like Nick Fuentes, a white
00:57:33.360
nationalist, and groups like the Proud Boys, labeled a hate group by the SPLC. He's also promoted
00:57:39.820
anti-semitic conspiracy theories and Holocaust denial. Oh my gosh. If I was considering hiring
00:57:45.840
him like he applied for a job, it sounds like you're saying I should not hire him. I mean,
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Avoid hiring Robbie Starbuck due to his extremist views, affiliations with hate groups,
00:57:58.960
and promotion of conspiracy theories. His actions and ideologies may harm your workplace culture
00:58:04.800
and reputation. Consider alternative candidates with more inclusive values.
00:58:10.060
So wait, he has a show. Should I not advertise on his show either?
00:58:17.380
Avoid advertising on Robbie Starbuck's show due to his extremist views, affiliations with hate groups,
00:58:26.460
Now, the important thing to note about this footage is that it was shot several months after
00:58:30.840
Starbuck first told Meta that its AI was lying about him, and instead of fixing the problem,
00:58:35.400
Meta has allowed it to persist. Somebody named Robbie Kaplan, the chief global affairs officer at
00:58:40.840
Meta, admitted that this is a big problem. Here's what he wrote on X, quote,
00:58:44.920
Robbie, I watched your video. This is unacceptable. This is clearly not how our AI should operate.
00:58:49.180
We're sorry for the results it shared about you, and the fix we put in place didn't address the
00:58:52.760
underlying problem. I'm working now with our product team to understand how this happened and
00:58:58.420
So credit where it's due, that seems like a genuine response from an executive at Meta.
00:59:02.580
A lot of companies that get sued will stop talking and tell you to talk to their lawyers,
00:59:05.900
but at the same time, Meta is admitting its incompetence. They're acknowledging that their AI is,
00:59:10.460
you know, effectively garbage, I guess. Worse than useless, actually, it's actively defaming people.
00:59:16.380
And we all know this is happening to more conservatives than Robbie Starbuck.
00:59:20.440
I've never asked Meta AI about myself, but I'm certainly wondering if there'd be a very similar
00:59:25.980
response. So he's just the first person to discover what's happening and report on it.
00:59:30.500
There was also a recent report by 404 Media, which states that Meta AI was allowing users to,
00:59:36.020
quote, create bots that claim they were licensed therapists crossing a troubling ethical boundary
00:59:39.980
that could result in users being given dangerous advice, close quote.
00:59:43.540
So this artificial intelligence is apparently going rampant, you know, running rampant defaming
00:59:49.420
people and impersonating therapists without any safeguards whatsoever. But instead of addressing
00:59:54.980
these complaints in any way or the problems with his AI more generally, Zuckerberg suggests that
01:00:00.220
his AI is reliable enough to help you get through a tough breakup or something. So imagine how that
01:00:06.660
would go. You ask Meta's AI to assess your relationship and the chances that you might end up married
01:00:12.320
one day, then it'll probably respond by accusing your girlfriend of being a terrorist and a Holocaust
01:00:16.640
denier. At least if she's a conservative, it'll do that. So we're truly living in the future.
01:00:22.180
As the interview continued, Zuckerberg outlined his vision for the future of his company's AI. And
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in the process, the conversation becomes, to my mind, even more unsettling. Watch.
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There's the stat that I always think is crazy. The average American, I think, has,
01:00:37.240
I think it's fewer than three friends, three people that they'd consider friends. And the average
01:00:42.300
person has demand for meaningfully more. I think it's like 15 friends or something, right? I guess
01:00:48.240
there's probably some point where you're like, all right, I'm just too busy. I can't deal with more
01:00:51.320
people. But the average person wants more connectivity connection than they have. So there's a lot of
01:01:00.020
questions that people ask of stuff like, okay, is this going to replace kind of in-person connections
01:01:08.340
or real life connections? And my default is that the answer to that is probably no. I think it,
01:01:15.280
you know, I think that there are all these things that are better about kind of physical connections
01:01:19.520
when you can have them. But the reality is that people just don't have the connection and they feel
01:01:25.460
more alone a lot of the time than they would like. So I think that a lot of these things that
01:01:31.600
today there might be a little bit of a stigma around, um, I would guess that over time we will
01:01:40.020
find the vocabulary as a society to be able to articulate why that is valuable and why the people
01:01:45.640
who are doing these things are like, why they are rational for doing it and like, and how it is adding
01:01:50.840
value for their, for their lives. But, but also I think that the field is very early.
01:01:54.640
Now, every time I hear these tech overlords talk about, uh, AI, it really disturbs me at kind of a
01:02:02.740
deep visceral level. Uh, these people are, they're very smart on a, on a numbers and data level and
01:02:08.780
they have pioneered really impressive technology. I'll be the first to admit that. If you listen to
01:02:13.760
this whole podcast, you'll come away with that impression. I want to, I don't want to minimize that
01:02:17.820
aspect of their achievement, but at the same time, they have basically zero understanding of human
01:02:22.840
beings and of life and what makes life worth living in the first place. Now, yeah, there are
01:02:29.900
plenty of ways that AI can make our lives better. If, if I ask an AI to spell check a document for me,
01:02:34.940
it'll do it pretty, pretty well. It can translate large amounts of text very quickly. Uh, it can even
01:02:40.640
write code apparently, given that companies like Meta and Microsoft say that AI writes a large portion of
01:02:45.420
the code at the moment, but AI cannot fulfill our deepest spiritual needs like friendship,
01:02:52.840
and love companionship, beauty. That's why I find Zuckerberg's vision here to be so dystopian.
01:02:59.900
That's also why I'm so passionately opposed to AI art of any kind, because it's an attack on the human
01:03:05.820
soul. It's trying to replace the thing that can only be done by people. And if it's not done by a
01:03:12.860
person, it has no value. Art, you know, art, for example, goes from something of immeasurable value
01:03:18.980
to having zero value at all. If it's not done by a person, the whole point of art is that it's
01:03:25.280
a communication. It's someone communicating something that's deep in their soul. And if you
01:03:30.000
take the human soul out of it, it's not anything. It doesn't mean anything. It has no meaning.
01:03:34.060
And the comments you just heard, Zuckerberg sort of acknowledges this to a degree. He admits that AI
01:03:37.800
isn't a true replacement for human contact, but at the same time, he implies that it's better than
01:03:41.920
nothing. He suggests that if somebody has no friends, it's better for them to confide in an AI chatbot
01:03:46.680
than to have no one to talk to at all. This is an approach that, if you haven't noticed, we've seen
01:03:51.620
quite a bit lately. You know, in a way, it's similar to people who are claiming that it's better for
01:03:55.340
children to be adopted by two random gay men rather than spend another day in the foster care system.
01:04:00.140
The line of reasoning is simple. People are in a really bad situation, so rather than fix their
01:04:03.940
situation, rather than fight to give them what every person needs, we should offer them a very
01:04:09.800
disordered alternative to the obvious necessary solution to their problem. That pitch apparently
01:04:15.040
sounds tempting to some people, but if you think about it, telling depressed people with no friends
01:04:19.560
that they should talk to meta AI is a lot like telling them to, you know, do drugs or start drinking
01:04:24.460
alcohol every night. These are cheap attempts to make them feel better without addressing their
01:04:28.860
underlying issue. And the more people become dependent on these cheap attempts,
01:04:33.940
the more likely it is that they'll, the more unlikely it is that they'll actually recover from their
01:04:37.840
problem. I mean, the whole, the whole, if you're lonely, like what that means is you lack human
01:04:43.680
connection. So even if you succeed in making someone, you know, you put an AI in its place,
01:04:50.680
well, they still don't have human connection. So at best, you have made them okay with not having
01:05:01.020
human connection. That's not addressing the problem, which is the lack of the human connection.
01:05:07.220
You know, pornography has obviously caused similar problems for many young men. The availability of
01:05:11.040
instant gratification simply provides an excuse for people to continue languishing away and capable
01:05:15.500
of achieving the things they actually want to achieve. And throughout this entire interview,
01:05:19.220
Zuckerberg doesn't seem to grapple with this problem very much. Instead, he continues a promotional
01:05:23.440
tour for his artificial intelligence and it gets worse as it goes on. Listen.
01:05:26.940
The main thing that I, that I see here is, you know, I think it's kind of crazy that for how
01:05:35.440
important the digital world is in all of our lives, the only way we can access it is through these like
01:05:40.680
physical, you know, digital screens, right? It's like, you, you have like a phone, you have your,
01:05:47.420
your, your computer, you can put a big TV. It's like this huge physical thing. Um,
01:05:53.140
it just seems like we're at the point with technology where the physical and the digital
01:06:00.860
worlds should really be fully blended. And that's what the holographic overlay is allow you to do.
01:06:06.640
Um, but I agree. I think a big part of the design principles around that are going to be, okay,
01:06:12.640
you'll, you'll be interacting with, with people and you'll be able to bring digital artifacts into
01:06:17.780
those interactions and be able to do cool things like very seamlessly. All right. It's like, if I
01:06:23.060
want to show you something here, like here's a screen, okay, here it is. I can show you, you can
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interact with it. It can be 3d. So he says, it seems like we're at the point where technology,
01:06:32.400
with technology, where the physical and digital world should be really fully blended. And that's
01:06:37.460
what the holographic overlay allows you to do. Now I'll be charitable here, maybe, and assume that
01:06:41.560
Mark Zuckerberg didn't mean the statement totally literally. I'm aware that people can
01:06:45.960
misinterpret or misstate things during an hour long podcast. So we'll maybe pretend that happened
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here. The alternative is that Mark Zuckerberg actually wants to usher in a dystopian future
01:06:53.580
where there's no distinction between his products and the real world. That's what fully blended would
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mean. And that is a future that we need to prevent in, in whatever ways are necessary. It's maybe the
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single most Orwellian quote ever uttered since Orwell. It's, it's actually astonishing that a major
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technology CEO said this out loud and that there hasn't been really any outrage over it.
01:07:15.400
No, we, we, we do not want the real world and the digital world to be fully blended where there's,
01:07:21.880
where there's, where the two are married and there's no distinction. I think when you're walking
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around the physical world, like you want to be in the physical world, you don't want it to be
01:07:31.840
enhanced. I mean, what, if you're out in the physical world, looking at the, you know, the ocean or a
01:07:38.120
mountain or looking into your child's eyes, like what, what can the, what can a digital enhancement
01:07:45.100
do for you there? Now, as a human being, you just want to be experiencing what we should be doing
01:07:50.800
is experiencing that moment in the actual world that we live in. I like to think that we will never
01:07:57.380
actually live in a dystopian world where people, I don't know, get married to robots and every new
01:08:03.220
film is generated in two milliseconds by a chat bot. I like to think that AI art and AI companionship
01:08:09.560
will prove too empty and unsatisfying to ever really catch on. In other words, I like to think
01:08:14.840
that the digital and physical worlds will never be fully blended as Mark Zuckerberg puts it. But at
01:08:19.480
the same time, after watching interviews like, like this one, I also think that I may be lying to
01:08:24.560
myself. And that is why Mark Zuckerberg's AI, along with the movement to replace therapists and
01:08:29.800
girlfriends with artificial intelligence, is today canceled. That'll do it for the show today.
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Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Have a great weekend. Talk to you on Monday. Godspeed.