The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 16 - Feminists Hate Men But They Also Want To Be Men

00:00:00.000 Hello, everybody. As you can see, a different studio today. This is our other car or the big

00:00:07.620 car, as our kids call it. Or as my wife, my wife says that it's her car because it has all the car 0.94

00:00:13.700 seats in it. And so she's the one driving it around for most of the day. But I strenuously

00:00:18.260 object to that description of it. Anyway, over the course of this past weekend, some controversy

00:00:26.400 erupted. And you know it's a big deal when there's controversy. I mean, in our society,

00:00:34.980 if there's controversy, you know something serious has happened because it's controversy is so rare

00:00:39.740 these days, right? It's like there's hardly ever anything that people are outraged about. So if

00:00:44.860 they're getting outraged, you know that it can't be frivolous, right? So in this case, the outrage,

00:00:51.060 the anger, the hurt, the heartbreak, the sadness was directed at former NFL kicker Jay Feeley.

00:01:00.080 And you see Jay Feeley posted a photo on Twitter. This is a former NFL kicker who posted a photo on

00:01:07.560 Twitter. So we know, as I said, we know it's serious business. And the photo depicted him

00:01:13.440 posing with his daughter and her prom date. And Feeley has his arm around his daughter,

00:01:19.440 kind of protective, in this sort of protective way. And then his other hand is holding a gun.

00:01:26.500 A gun. A shooty thing. Okay. A shooty, shooty, dangerous thing. And so this is a classic dad joke.

00:01:34.180 I mean, this is, it's even cliche. And it's a dad joke that 10 years ago, nobody would have noticed

00:01:40.480 or really cared. Maybe a few people would have laughed. Most people would have rolled their eyes

00:01:44.420 because that, as a dad, I know that that's the, really the appropriate response to a dad joke is

00:01:49.580 just to roll your eyes and move on. But this is not 10 years ago. This is 2018. And so in 2018,

00:01:57.140 the photo went viral with thousands of people expressing their righteous indignation

00:02:03.560 at this terrible, awful, offensive photo. Now, before I go any further, I need to stipulate that

00:02:11.060 when I talk about, when I say people were outraged and they were angry, just keep in mind that there

00:02:15.880 are really, there are quotes around that. There are sarcastic air quotes around outrage and anger,

00:02:21.380 because as I've said before, the main thing about the collective outrage that goes on is that there's

00:02:28.400 very little authentic outrage in it. I mean, I don't think anyone really actually cared that much

00:02:37.580 about what Jay Feely posted. Most of the things, when we get this, this huge outrage, everyone's so

00:02:43.420 angry. Most of the people who are outraged and angry, they are not really outraged or angry. What

00:02:50.000 they're doing is they're just, they're just seizing on this opportunity to make a point and to destroy

00:02:56.120 somebody. And we know that that's not, that's, that's, uh, that's been going on since the dawn of

00:03:00.800 time. What makes it different now is that it used to be, you know, if you were a politician or a

00:03:07.040 political figure of some kind and you said anything at all, then yeah, you're going to have people from

00:03:12.020 the other side who tried to take your words and use it against you to try to win. Right. Um, and I

00:03:18.040 think that used to mainly be reserved for people like that, people who are in controversial jobs

00:03:23.820 or jobs that inherently involved controversy. But now what we find is that anybody at all, it's just

00:03:30.020 any, any old average person, doesn't matter what you do for a living, doesn't matter who you are,

00:03:34.700 it doesn't matter what side you fall on. It doesn't matter if you're completely apolitical,

00:03:39.840 anything, just just anyone at all. If you put something out there publicly, people will seize

00:03:46.100 on it and try to destroy you to the point where even an NFL kicker, he's just a retired NFL kicker.

00:03:53.000 I mean, even if what he did was terribly, you know, even if that photo really was legitimately awful,

00:03:59.620 which of course it isn't, but even if it was, who cares? It's just an NFL kicker. What does it

00:04:05.180 matter? I mean, what, what, why would anyone care what he posts? Just let him be just letting just

00:04:10.080 whatever. So he's got to, who cares? There's what, what are you hoping to win or accomplished by taking

00:04:15.820 this and making a thing out of it? So the anger is, uh, is, is not really authentic, but be that as it

00:04:23.040 may, we will deal with it anyway. So this fake anger seems to be based on two things. One,

00:04:28.440 they say that he's making light of gun violence and it's dangerous to have a gun out like that.

00:04:37.960 They said, because I saw a lot of people say, if that was my son, I would be so, I would, I would

00:04:43.320 be so angry that he put them in harm's way with that gun because these people think that a gun

00:04:49.460 through some mysterious gravitational force could actually load itself and then point itself and,

00:04:55.360 and, and, uh, and pull its own trigger. That's what they think could happen.

00:04:59.760 But in reality, the gun was, did not pose a threat to anybody because it wasn't loaded and

00:05:05.880 he had it pointed down and he didn't even have his finger on the trigger. So really that, that gun

00:05:10.960 posed as much of a threat to the people in that photograph as there would have been a threat if

00:05:16.040 he was holding like a pancake or something. It just, it posed zero threat whatsoever. But the other

00:05:20.720 source of outrage is, uh, the one that I want to focus on. Plenty of feminists were scandalized or 1.00

00:05:29.880 pretended to be scandalized because as they put it, Feely was treating his daughter as property

00:05:37.000 and how dare he? Um, just as one example, feminist Lauren Duca or Dusa, I don't know how to pronounce

00:05:43.120 her name, but she's got a lot of Twitter followers and, uh, which means she's important by the way. 0.95

00:05:48.700 So the, um, she said that the photo was a violent reminder that Feely considers his daughter to be

00:05:54.740 his property. Now, first of all, Jay Feely did, well, he didn't quite apologize, but he did post

00:06:00.260 something clarifying the tweet and explaining it, which I wish he hadn't even done that much because

00:06:05.840 it required no explanation and it required no clarification. And anybody who was offended by

00:06:10.560 it, their feelings do not matter at all in this case. But I understand why he did, because like I

00:06:16.300 said, he's just, he's not a political figure. He's not, he's not like a pal or even someone like me,

00:06:22.360 where I know that everything I say, there are going to be people who try to take it and, and, uh,

00:06:26.880 and I'm going to get hate mail and everything. I, so I know that I know that's what I do for a living.

00:06:30.620 So I understand that, but Jay Feely, that's not what he's, he wasn't, that's not what he's looking

00:06:35.620 for. He just thought he was posting a funny picture. It turned into a whole thing. So he's like,

00:06:39.620 fine. I'll just post something clarifying. And what he said was, um, the prom picture I posted

00:06:45.260 was obviously intended to be a joke. My daughter has dated her boyfriend for over a year and they

00:06:49.300 knew I was joking. I take gun safety seriously. The gun was not loaded and had no clip in it.

00:06:53.940 And I did not intend to be sensitive to be insensitive to that important issue.

00:06:58.720 So this is where we are now as a society where a guy has to explain that a picture of himself

00:07:04.180 holding a gun in a prom picture with his daughter and her boyfriend is a joke. He has to explain that.

00:07:09.620 To all of these people that again, already know, they know that he's joking, which is the main

00:07:15.760 reason why I think there shouldn't be an explanation. But putting all that aside, I think

00:07:20.500 what we really see here more than an attack on guns, we see an attack on the role of fathers

00:07:27.760 because it's a, it's a father's job to protect and defend his family. And he ought to be protective

00:07:35.140 of his daughter. He ought to be protective of her dignity and protective of her, of her innocence.

00:07:39.620 Obviously Feeley's photo was a deliberately cartoonish, exaggerated, humorous depiction

00:07:45.980 of that role. It wasn't supposed to be serious. But what we see is that feminists are mad or 1.00

00:07:52.060 pretending to be mad about the role itself. They hate the idea that a man would protect

00:07:58.040 his family, especially that he would protect his daughter. They hate that idea. So this again

00:08:03.620 goes back to the piece that I wrote a few weeks ago about the challenges that men face in

00:08:07.420 this culture where a man really can't win because a man who is not there for his family,

00:08:12.180 a man who does not protect his family, does not defend his family, a man who has no problem

00:08:16.220 with his daughter shacking up with any old scumbag, that sort of man is still rightfully

00:08:21.280 derided and shamed in our culture. But a man who does the opposite, the opposite sort of man

00:08:25.960 is also derided and shamed in our culture. So again, men are left saying, well, what do you

00:08:30.600 want me to do? How am I supposed to be? What would make you people happy? Now, I don't

00:08:36.600 ask that because I don't care what makes anyone happy. But a man who is concerned with how society

00:08:42.960 views him is going to be very confused because literally no matter what he does, he's going

00:08:49.660 to hear it. And I'm not just drawing all of this from this one reaction to this picture.

00:08:54.780 Uh, I'm drawing it from the, from society in general, but there are also plenty of other

00:08:59.860 examples. For instance, just look at if you really want to get a headache. Okay. If you,

00:09:05.040 if you, if you feel like having a migraine, here's what I recommend go on Google and type in

00:09:11.060 father, daughter dance, and then just see all the blog posts that pop up talking about how problematic

00:09:19.960 and weird and creepy and old fashioned and patriarchal these father, daughter dances are

00:09:28.060 because this is a good example of how the role of the dad has become this, has become this evil,

00:09:34.680 creepy thing. Here's a bit from an article on a romper.com titled father, daughter dances are

00:09:41.760 anything but innocent. We just read you a couple, a few sentences. The writer says, these aren't sweet.

00:09:47.520 They aren't cute. They're creepy. And they seek to enforce patriarchal notions of femininity. 1.00

00:09:53.540 These little girls who are taken out on dates by their fathers are taught that men should do

00:09:57.120 everything for them. Men open the door, men pull out the chair, men buy everything. It's incumbent on

00:10:02.480 the man to ask questions and draw her out. This is 2017 and newsflash. Women don't need men to do 1.00

00:10:09.980 things for them. We don't need some big, bad patriarchal figure to hold the door or compliment our inner 0.79

00:10:15.360 beauty. We deserve men who are equal partners, who share life's journey with us and who treat us as

00:10:21.280 equals. Uh, daddy daughter dates include an, include an implicit power dynamic and it's not in favor of the

00:10:29.900 girl. Now, uh, I mean, just imagine, okay. Imagine being the sort of person who hears about a man

00:10:43.080 taking his, his, his, his little girl out on the father daughter dance. And the first thing they think is

00:10:48.780 implicit power dynamic or imagine being the sort of person who sees this, you know, funny, nice, cliched photo

00:10:57.280 of Jay Feely and sees it as some kind of patriarchal conspiracy and that he, he thinks he owns his daughter

00:11:04.800 like a slave. I mean, this is what I re I, you know, I, I, I, I honestly, I pity, I really have a lot of pity

00:11:10.820 for these people, for feminists and all these people in our culture because they live in such a miserable 1.00

00:11:18.540 world. I can't imagine living in the world that they think we live in. I can't imagine having that

00:11:26.800 mindset. So the question is why, why are so many people so hostile to the idea of a man being a

00:11:37.280 figure of protection or security or authority in the home? And I think there are two reasons.

00:11:44.660 The first reason is pretty simple. We have to remember that many feminists are feminists because 1.00

00:11:50.340 they had no father in the home. At least they didn't have a good father. Uh, that's not the case in all

00:11:55.620 for all of them. Of course, it's theoretically possible that a good father could produce a

00:12:00.580 feminist. Very unlikely. Probably if your daughter ends up being a radical feminist, it means that you 1.00

00:12:08.400 as a dad screwed up big time, most likely, but I mean, it is, I'm saying it's theoretically possible

00:12:14.020 that you could have a good father because people, you know, human beings make their own choices. And

00:12:18.140 even a woman who's raised right could end up, um, unfortunately going down the path of feminism. 1.00

00:12:23.040 So most of them had one way or another absent fathers. And there's this certain kind of childish

00:12:30.720 self-centeredness that's really common in our society where people insist on spreading around

00:12:36.720 their misery and they came from broken homes. So they must attack and hate homes that are not broken.

00:12:44.560 It's envy. And it even goes a little bit beyond envy actually, because a really envious person

00:12:50.960 knows that he doesn't have something. And so he covets the people who do have it.

00:12:58.000 But here though, what we see so often in our society are people who don't have a certain good thing.

00:13:05.080 In this case, an intact family. And so they insist that the thing must not be good.

00:13:10.660 So rather than trying to have what other people have, they say, well, nobody should have it.

00:13:17.640 But second, the reason why people, especially feminists, lash out at men who protect and provide 1.00

00:13:26.340 is, is really this. And I've said it before. Feminists, they don't really hate masculinity. 1.00

00:13:34.340 I think we have it wrong. We don't really understand the motivations behind modern feminism. 1.00

00:13:40.760 And I, and I say it myself, just kind of for lack, just kind of for the sake of argument or just

00:13:45.920 sort of laziness. I'll say, well, feminists hate masculinity because in a sense they do. But 1.00

00:13:52.660 I think even deeper than that, they, they actually idolize masculinity.

00:13:58.640 So it's more accurate to say they hate men who are masculine because they themselves want to be

00:14:08.240 masculine. It's masculinity itself is what they idolize. They want to be that. So they say,

00:14:14.520 well, we don't need no man to protect us. This is 2018. We don't need that because they have idolized

00:14:20.920 the ability to protect. They have taken this and decided that, well, this is, everyone should have

00:14:27.780 that ability. Um, they want it for themselves. The kind of physical masculine strength that a man

00:14:35.880 has, they want it. They hate it when men show it because they want it. They have idolized it. They

00:14:43.220 have, they have decided that masculinity is really the height of existence. And that's why you get all

00:14:49.800 these silly movies with the kick butt female action heroes who go around beating up men and everything. 0.99

00:14:55.020 Um, and it's just, I, again, it's kind of this silly childish thing that feminists do where they 1.00

00:15:01.700 say, well, men have all the action heroes. Now we want some, well, one of the reasons why typically

00:15:06.780 men are the action heroes in movies is because men are the action heroes in real life. And you're

00:15:13.100 simply not going to get a woman who's running around just hand to hand combat, beating up, um, 1.00

00:15:19.020 a bunch of strong beefy men. That's just, that's, that's not going to happen in real life. And yeah,

00:15:26.180 it is a movie. So fictional things can happen, but, but generally you want a movie, even an action

00:15:30.980 movie to be grounded in some sense in reality. Um, so that's why typically you don't have as many

00:15:35.940 movies like that, but feminists covet the strength of men. They covet masculinity itself 1.00

00:15:44.540 and they want to have it or to use the common phrase. Now they want to appropriate it,

00:15:51.020 which is why if a woman had taken that exact same photo that Jay Feeley took holding the gun and

00:16:00.740 everything, feminists would have celebrated it. They would have said it was the greatest thing ever 1.00

00:16:05.660 because they don't hate toxic masculinity. They just hate that men are so much better at being

00:16:14.320 masculine and they think they're in a competition with men. Really in the end, we should stop saying

00:16:22.320 that, that feminists hate masculinity. What they really hate is femininity. That's what they hate. 1.00

00:16:29.880 They hate themselves. They don't want to be themselves. They want to be men. And so they

00:16:37.700 hate men who are men because they see it as some kind of personal attack on them. So that's what lies

00:16:47.100 underneath all this, uh, all this controversy, which, as I said, it's not even a real controversy.

00:16:52.000 So maybe I didn't even need to spend 20 minutes explaining it, but I just did. So hope you enjoyed

00:16:57.120 it. Uh, I'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day, everybody.

The Matt Walsh Show - April 24, 2018

Ep. 16 - Feminists Hate Men But They Also Want To Be Men

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