The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1605 - These Federal Judges Are Trying To Stop Trump From Dealing With The Fentanyl Crisis

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the activist courts are at it again. At this point, it's clear that in the view of most judges in this country, the president has no authority to do anything at all.

00:00:08.300 Also, schools across the country are moving to a no-zero grading policy. Homeschooling looks better and better by the day.

00:00:14.260 And in their desperate request to appeal to men, the Democrats have called in an expert, a self-professed, plus-sized, disabled, queer, Latina feminist.

00:00:21.700 Who could possibly understand men better than her? All of that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.

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00:02:20.000 We've been trending in this direction for some time now, but after yesterday's ruling by a three-judge panel

00:02:25.940 on the United States Court of International Trade in Manhattan, which struck down all of the Trump administration's tariffs,

00:02:32.520 it's now official.

00:02:33.420 We don't need any more rulings from federal judges about what the president of the United States isn't allowed to do.

00:02:38.860 Those are completely pointless.

00:02:40.040 Instead, what we need in our alleged first-world democracy is a ruling from some federal court

00:02:46.980 explaining, in as much detail as possible, what exactly the president does have the authority to do while in office.

00:02:53.980 That would be a much more efficient way forward, because apparently it's a very, very, very short list.

00:02:59.240 Now, in just the past five months, federal courts have held that the Trump administration

00:03:02.100 has no authority to change federal government websites.

00:03:05.520 The Trump administration has no authority to fire any executive branch employees.

00:03:08.920 The Trump administration has no authority to ban mentally disturbed individuals from joining the armed forces.

00:03:13.720 The Trump administration has no authority to eliminate slush funds for corrupt NGOs.

00:03:18.360 The Trump administration has no authority to stop funneling billions of dollars of taxpayer money to anti-white universities.

00:03:24.340 The Trump administration has no authority to eliminate wasteful administrative spending that is tacked on to every single scientific grant.

00:03:31.180 The Trump administration has no authority to deport illegal alien gang members, even the wife-beaters and the terrorists. 0.79

00:03:37.500 The Trump administration has no authority to cut federal funding to child castration services for children.

00:03:43.720 And now, after all these rulings, and there are dozens more like them, we heard last night from the U.S. Court of International Trade

00:03:48.820 that the President of the United States also does not have the power to impose emergency tariffs on foreign nations.

00:03:55.200 Now, in a minute, I'm going to go into some detail about this ruling and the problems I have with it.

00:04:01.420 But before I do that, there's a very important point that needs to be made here, which is this.

00:04:06.300 Even if you think that tariffs are a terrible idea, and really, even if you believe that the Court of International Trade made the right ruling in this particular case, which they didn't,

00:04:17.720 you simply cannot deny that the judicial system in this country, because of its own overzealousness, has never been less legitimate than it is right now.

00:04:27.380 I mean, the sheer number of injunctions that have been issued blocking every single agenda item that the democratically elected president has attempted to execute is unprecedented in the history of this country.

00:04:38.500 We are in jump-the-shark territory to a comical degree.

00:04:42.680 And that's a very big deal, because courts don't have militaries.

00:04:46.500 They cannot enforce their own rulings.

00:04:48.120 When they lose legitimacy, they lose everything.

00:04:50.980 And with this latest ruling, on top of all the other rulings, legitimacy is long gone.

00:04:57.500 So who does have legitimacy?

00:04:59.820 Where does legitimacy come from?

00:05:02.660 For judges, legitimacy comes from restraint and consistency and adherence to the rule of law.

00:05:08.720 For presidents, it comes from democratic elections.

00:05:12.060 It comes from campaigning and openly telling voters what you plan to do if and when you're elected.

00:05:16.840 And with that in mind, you will not find a single person, even the most deranged anchor on MSNBC, who will disagree with this statement.

00:05:26.020 Donald Trump explicitly campaigned on imposing massive tariffs on foreign nations in order to return manufacturing to the United States.

00:05:34.560 That was always a core plank of his domestic agenda.

00:05:37.500 He's been talking about it for decades.

00:05:40.040 That doesn't mean you have to agree with him.

00:05:42.360 You can feel however you want about tariffs, but it does mean that Trump's plan was put to a vote.

00:05:48.600 And the American people decided that Donald Trump's economic agenda was the best way forward.

00:05:53.280 That's legitimacy.

00:05:54.880 And if that's not legitimacy, then legitimacy has no meaning.

00:05:58.580 And neither does democracy.

00:06:00.840 Again, even on MSNBC, they concede this point.

00:06:03.260 Last night, as he was celebrating this court decision, the perpetually unhinged Lawrence O'Donnell admitted that Trump's entire campaign was about tariffs.

00:06:12.120 He says he was talking about tariffs the whole time, and he blames the campaign press for not talking about tariffs enough.

00:06:19.140 Watch.

00:06:20.100 The Trump tariffs were always illegal and unconstitutional.

00:06:24.500 And you heard that on this program every time we covered Donald Trump's comments about tariffs, including very much during the presidential campaign when the campaign press corps never, ever reported to voters that the Trump proposed tariffs during the campaign were completely illegal and unconstitutional.

00:06:45.980 The campaign press corps never reported to voters that those proposals were constitutionally insane.

00:06:54.820 And the person pronouncing those proposals at those Trump rallies was constitutionally out of his mind just based on what he was saying about tariffs alone.

00:07:05.240 The campaign press corps completely failed.

00:07:07.860 Now, the point of this little diatribe from Lawrence O'Donnell is to suggest that if only the campaign press had covered Trump's tariffs a little bit more, then the voters would have rejected his entire candidacy.

00:07:19.680 This is a familiar tactic on the left.

00:07:22.080 They did the same thing with Russiagate.

00:07:23.740 They claimed that if only people knew that, you know, the Russian government had spent $100,000 on Facebook memes back in 2016, then they would have never voted against Hillary Clinton.

00:07:32.920 You poor, poor voters.

00:07:34.300 You're always being tricked by Donald Trump.

00:07:35.860 You have no agency whatsoever.

00:07:38.960 And thankfully, the courts will correct that little problem for you.

00:07:42.980 Now, this is about as undemocratic as it gets. 0.99

00:07:45.480 It is asinine, narcissistic, above all, totalitarian. 0.98

00:07:50.200 Of course, it wasn't just this one MSNBC blowhard who discovered that Trump was talking about tariffs all the whole time. 0.99

00:07:57.100 The entire country heard Trump talk about tariffs.

00:08:00.200 And then they overwhelmingly decided to elect that guy.

00:08:04.080 And that should matter more than anything else.

00:08:07.400 Unless the president clearly and unambiguously exceeds his authority under the Constitution, then the court should respect the will of the voters, whether they agree with it personally or not.

00:08:17.180 In this case, if you read the ruling from the panel of judges on the United States Court of International Trade, you'll discover that Donald Trump did not actually exceed his authority.

00:08:26.500 In order to come to the opposite conclusion, a lot of mental gymnastics were required on the part of this three-judge panel.

00:08:33.820 And I want to start with the court's handling of Trump's fentanyl-related tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China.

00:08:38.800 At the moment this ruling was issued, the tariffs stood at 25% for Mexican and Canadian products and 20% for Chinese products, with an exception for Canadian energy, which remained at 10%.

00:08:50.120 Now, normally the president cannot issue tariffs that are quite that high.

00:08:54.600 However, as you probably remember, the Trump administration determined rightly that fentanyl trafficking is a national emergency because tens of thousands of Americans are dying each year from fentanyl that's imported from overseas or from other countries.

00:09:11.300 And therefore, under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, the White House asserted its authority to impose substantial tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China, tariffs that are much higher than they otherwise could be.

00:09:23.120 And under this emergency act, the president is allowed to, quote, deal with any unusual and extraordinary threat which has its source in whole or substantial part outside the U.S. to the national security, foreign policy, or economy of the United States if the president declares a national emergency with respect to such a threat.

00:09:40.940 Now, that's a direct quote from the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which became law in the 1970s.

00:09:59.880 Because that's the authority that Congress delegated to the president.

00:10:04.040 And under this act, the president can impose substantial tariffs to deal with any extraordinary threat as long as he declares a national emergency.

00:10:13.760 So, you might be asking, isn't that exactly what happened in this case?

00:10:19.280 Didn't Trump impose the fentanyl tariffs in order to pressure countries like Mexico and China to stop allowing fentanyl into this country?

00:10:26.160 Under the terms of this law, isn't the president implementing these tariffs to deal with the fentanyl crisis?

00:10:32.900 Now, according to the trade court, the answer to that question is apparently no.

00:10:37.780 And here's their reasoning.

00:10:38.620 They focus extensively on the words deal with in the law that I just read.

00:10:42.820 And here's what they said.

00:10:43.640 Quote, deal with connotes a direct link between an act and the problem it purports to address.

00:10:49.620 A tax deals with a budget deficit by raising revenue.

00:10:52.900 A dam deals with flooding by holding back a river.

00:10:55.140 But there's no such association between the act of imposing a tariff and the unusual and extraordinary threats that the fentanyl trafficking orders report to combat.

00:11:04.320 The fentanyl trafficking order do not deal with their stated objectives.

00:11:07.520 Rather, as the government acknowledges, the orders aim to create leverage to deal with those objectives.

00:11:13.280 Close quote.

00:11:14.420 So, in other words, the court is acknowledging that the fentanyl tariffs are being used by the Trump administration as a form of leverage,

00:11:20.460 which can force foreign countries to deal with the fentanyl problem.

00:11:24.300 But they're claiming that under the law, that's not allowed.

00:11:27.780 That's not how you're supposed to deal with fentanyl, according to this three-judge panel.

00:11:32.380 The judges are saying that, you know, the Trump administration is assuming too much power,

00:11:36.300 and that leverage isn't the appropriate way to deal with an emergency.

00:11:39.740 And therefore, apparently, the Trump administration needed to impose a tariff, what, specifically on fentanyl imports or something like that,

00:11:47.380 even though it obviously would accomplish nothing at all because nobody is declaring their fentanyl shipments at the border.

00:11:53.000 Now, I want to emphasize this a little bit more because this part of the ruling really deserves much more attention than it's getting.

00:12:00.100 I mean, Congress passed a law that allows the president to deal with any emergency that he declares.

00:12:07.020 And now, decades later, this trade court is saying, in effect, well, no, you can't deal with it like that.

00:12:12.920 But there's nothing in the law that justifies their ruling.

00:12:15.460 The court just makes it up.

00:12:17.180 The only reasoning that the court provides, which is contained in two paragraphs at the end of their opinion,

00:12:21.400 is that the Trump administration's approach would justify any kind of tariff they wanted to impose, no matter how ridiculous.

00:12:26.840 They're saying that if Trump can use leverage as a justification, then he can impose whatever tariff he wants.

00:12:32.900 But that's not true.

00:12:33.640 There has to be an underlying emergency, first of all.

00:12:35.900 And the deaths of thousands of Americans every year certainly qualifies. 1.00

00:12:39.880 Additionally, there's evidence that, in this case, Trump's leverage is indeed working.

00:12:44.160 Within days of Trump's sweeping tariffs on Canada, for example, Trudeau appointed a fentanyl czar

00:12:48.220 and pledged to screen exports more carefully in order to prevent fentanyl from entering into this country.

00:12:53.360 So we're not talking about some arbitrary tariff that has no connection to reality.

00:12:56.340 We're talking about a tariff that has already produced tangible results that will stem the flow of fentanyl.

00:13:01.780 But apparently that's not good enough.

00:13:04.040 And again, even if you think that this is not going to be an effective way to deal with the fentanyl crisis, that's fine.

00:13:11.640 You could think that.

00:13:13.520 But that doesn't mean that the president doesn't have the authority to do it.

00:13:17.320 Like, the president has the authority to do things that you might find ineffective or that some random court finds ineffective.

00:13:28.200 Now, I'm highlighting this part of the ruling because it underscores the extent of the judicial coup that we're witnessing.

00:13:33.340 Congress delegated authority to the president to deal with an emergency.

00:13:38.700 He attempted to do that.

00:13:40.120 And then the court overrides him based on ad hoc reasoning that invalidates the will of the voters who elected the Trump administration

00:13:47.240 and the members of Congress who passed that emergency tariff law.

00:13:51.040 And again, it's fine if you think the tariffs are a bad idea or a good idea or if you have mixed feelings about them.

00:13:56.240 So the solution, if you don't like the tariffs, is for Congress to rescind the tariff power in whole or in part legally.

00:14:03.880 The solution is not, which I don't think they should do, by the way.

00:14:08.840 But if that was your opinion, then that's who, you know, if you think that, if you don't like tariffs and you think they should,

00:14:15.780 then that's the, that is the, those are the people who can deal with that, not some random court.

00:14:22.440 The solution is definitely not for random courts in Manhattan to override the president and the Congress based on very strained interpretations of the law.

00:14:32.560 Now, this ruling has already been appealed and it's clear the Trump administration can still impose tariffs,

00:14:36.300 albeit reduced ones, under the non-emergency tariff powers that have been passed by Congress.

00:14:40.940 So the ultimate outcome here is still uncertain.

00:14:44.320 What's not uncertain is that federal judges once again have undermined what's left of their legitimacy with this ruling.

00:14:50.820 If this had been the very first injunction against the Trump administration policy, it wouldn't be as much of a crisis.

00:14:56.980 People may even give the judges the benefit of the doubt throughout the appeals process.

00:15:00.400 But we've seen more than a hundred rulings like this by now.

00:15:04.360 This is unsustainable to the point that if one of these federal judges somehow manages to issue a good ruling, no one will follow it.

00:15:11.560 You know, that, that's not the ideal outcome for this country or the rule of law, obviously.

00:15:15.380 But with this decision from a court that no one's ever heard of, which erases the president's congressionally approved authority to deal with national emergencies,

00:15:25.000 it's the outcome that now appears to be inevitable.

00:15:29.240 Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:16:00.600 The Post-Millennial reports on Tuesday, the San Francisco Public School District announced a new grading policy that will allow students to graduate classes with a score as low as 21%.

00:16:10.100 The grading for equity method eliminates homework and weekly test scores from a student's final semester grade.

00:16:16.820 Instead, there will be one test at the end of each semester to decide if a student has passed the class.

00:16:22.600 And that exam can be retaken several times.

00:16:25.360 Maria Su, the superintendent of San Francisco Unified School District, enacted the new guidelines without seeking approval from the board.

00:16:31.740 Changes will impact 10,000 students across 14 high schools.

00:16:34.200 Students may submit assignments late, fail to attend class, or choose not to attend without consequence to their academic performance.

00:16:42.640 As of current, receiving an A requires a minimum score of 90%, while a D is set at 61%.

00:16:48.700 Under the new scale, a student can obtain an A with a score as low as 80%, and a D with a score as low as 21%.

00:16:56.140 So that's what they're doing there.

00:17:02.200 Some equitable, some more equitable practices in school, supposedly.

00:17:07.460 I will say I agree with one part of this.

00:17:09.500 I agree with getting rid of homework.

00:17:11.640 That is one supposedly woke education policy that I'm on board with.

00:17:16.240 Because to me, it's actually anti-woke.

00:17:18.540 I think that getting rid of homework itself is, homework itself is woke, okay?

00:17:23.540 That's why, homework is woke, kids, I would argue.

00:17:27.420 Because the problem with homework is that it allows the school, the public school, to claim even more of the time that should be yours with your own child.

00:17:38.600 It's just the government, it's like the school system's way of intruding into the home even more than they already are.

00:17:44.600 Because when a child leaves home, he should be with his parents, he should be with his family.

00:17:50.300 That should be family time.

00:17:52.300 And it's important for kids to have time with their families.

00:17:54.780 It's critically, absolutely, essentially important, obviously.

00:17:58.860 And with homework, the school's saying, no, sorry, that time still belongs to us.

00:18:02.440 We're going to take some of that time.

00:18:04.020 And most of the homework is just busy work.

00:18:06.220 So kids are being sent back to their homes with busy work to do.

00:18:10.360 And now, rather than having family time, they have busy work to do.

00:18:17.000 You know, you get, the kids are in school for, what, six, seven hours a day.

00:18:22.520 That's plenty of time if you're at the school.

00:18:24.600 If you need to send the kids home with homework, then you're not using that time efficiently.

00:18:31.040 That's a you problem as a school.

00:18:33.380 That's a you problem as a teacher, if you feel like you need to send them home with busy work.

00:18:37.220 That tells me you're not using your time efficiently.

00:18:40.380 You've got more than enough time to teach all the stuff you need to teach.

00:18:44.060 Use the time efficiently.

00:18:46.380 Don't send them home to me with busy work to do.

00:18:51.100 Not me specifically, because my kid's homeschooled, but I'm saying as a parent.

00:18:57.460 So I'm with them on eliminating homework.

00:19:02.000 Although, of course, their reason is not the same as my reason.

00:19:05.540 And the rest of this stuff, though, is insane.

00:19:09.440 21% is a passing grade, which is just another way of saying that every kid will pass every class no matter what.

00:19:17.020 You can get a 21% if you show up.

00:19:19.640 Just show up to class on occasion.

00:19:22.300 Sign your name to a couple of worksheets, and you'll get 21%.

00:19:26.260 So every kid passes no matter what.

00:19:28.860 That's the policy.

00:19:29.580 A kid can get, what, 19% of the answers wrong on a test or an assignment and still get an A.

00:19:39.740 You know, there are no consequences for coming to class late or turning in assignments late.

00:19:44.360 It's all just insane.

00:19:46.120 And as more schools turn to these kinds of policies and methods, they really remove the one single potentially redemptive thing about public school.

00:19:58.800 You know, there are many problems with public school.

00:20:00.800 The quality of education is bad.

00:20:03.160 Much of what the kids are taught is false.

00:20:04.820 The culture in the school is toxic and hostile to your values if you're a Christian or a conservative.

00:20:09.480 The schools are left-wing indoctrination centers, all of that.

00:20:13.500 Even in the midst of all that, the one possible bright spot, the one advantage, which is still not nearly enough to outweigh all the disadvantages,

00:20:22.680 but the one thing that you should be able to say is that going to school in this kind of structured environment could teach kids discipline and help them to develop a work ethic, right?

00:20:37.020 All right. I'll admit that, you know, this can be a challenge with homeschooling.

00:20:42.200 Homeschooling, you know, no matter what you do in life, there are going to be challenges.

00:20:46.800 There are going to be disadvantages.

00:20:49.380 Homeschooling is no exception.

00:20:52.100 Homeschooling can be looser.

00:20:54.240 It can be less structured.

00:20:57.700 And that's not necessarily a bad thing.

00:21:00.060 In fact, there are a lot of advantages to that.

00:21:01.960 But what you can lose if you're not careful is some of the discipline because kids are not required to get up and physically go to a class and deal with some of the demands that you get in that kind of structured school environment.

00:21:17.460 So a downside to homeschooling, a potential downside that can happen if you go about it the wrong way, is that, yeah, it can get a bit casual, you know, a bit loose, overly so.

00:21:34.480 And this is one problem that you would think a traditional school environment would not have because they have more structure, more kind of a built-in discipline and accountability.

00:21:45.560 But now public schools are abandoning that.

00:21:49.320 What could be their one single selling point, their one upside, you know, the one thing, maybe, the one thing they might have over homeschooling, they're throwing that overboard.

00:22:01.120 They're saying we're done with that.

00:22:03.680 The structure, the accountability, you know, like you got to just, a kid has to get up and go to a class physically, just that requirement.

00:22:13.240 Like I said, there could be some discipline that comes with that.

00:22:17.920 But now they're saying, yeah, you don't even have to come in.

00:22:20.460 You don't have to come to class.

00:22:22.760 So they're getting rid of the structure, the discipline, the accountability.

00:22:26.120 And this isn't just happening in San Francisco, by the way.

00:22:28.820 Fox reports also this week that, here's a report, Chicago public schools officials are debating whether their grading policy is too lenient,

00:22:35.920 with one principal arguing that leniency in grading won't translate into success in the real world for students.

00:22:44.620 When students graduate and are working in jobs, what they experience around grace and flexibility at school is not going to match.

00:22:51.000 Kennedy's principal at Richards Career Academy High School, RCAAH, is predominantly ruled by Latino and black students.

00:22:59.660 The school piloted a new grading policy before the COVID pandemic that allowed them to redo assignments repeatedly and then submit assignments late.

00:23:07.380 The policy was intended to address rising absenteeism in the district.

00:23:10.780 Even if they didn't complete the assignment, the lowest score they could get was 50 rather than zero, a concept known as no zero grading.

00:23:21.460 This trend of no zero grading started across the district and the United States as part of a push to give students more chances to show what they learned.

00:23:31.120 Zakai Mohamed said, we're not issuing grades without knowing the full story.

00:23:34.440 If the student has not shown up, are we just issuing a zero?

00:23:37.360 Are we asking why?

00:23:38.420 We wanted to know, we wanted to show up for our kids first and then grading was secondary, according to a science teacher at RCAHS.

00:23:48.760 So that's what's happening in Chicago and in other districts across the country.

00:23:53.100 No zero grading, they call it.

00:23:56.240 You get a 50% even if you don't do the assignment.

00:23:59.740 They spot you 50% just out of the gate.

00:24:02.740 And then, you know, if they don't want to hand out a grade, they want to ask why.

00:24:14.500 Why did this happen?

00:24:17.200 Well, the problem with this approach, of course, is that it doesn't, as someone said in the article, it doesn't work this way in the real world.

00:24:23.500 In the real world, all that matters is whether you successfully completed the task assigned to you or not.

00:24:30.960 Nobody cares, really, why or why not.

00:24:34.220 That's going to be the case.

00:24:35.260 If you want to be successful, that's going to be the case in any line of work.

00:24:39.140 All that matters is if you perform.

00:24:44.700 That's what matters in the end.

00:24:45.920 And this, again, should be an advantage to sending your kids to a physical school, is that now at least they're in an environment where performance is what counts.

00:25:08.780 You're getting graded by a teacher who's not your parent.

00:25:12.680 And there's some competitiveness and competition that, you know, all that kind of stuff.

00:25:19.920 But the schools are getting away from that.

00:25:23.400 So then you're left really asking yourself, like, what, why would anyone send their kid to a public school now?

00:25:34.560 I mean, I didn't see a good reason to do it.

00:25:38.000 I don't think there's been a good reason for decades to do it.

00:25:40.540 But especially at this point, there just isn't one.

00:25:44.620 I wanted to mention this.

00:25:45.540 You may recall a few months ago, Cory Booker filibustered for 25 hours.

00:25:50.820 Sorry, I was going to say 24.

00:25:51.800 It was 25.

00:25:53.540 And he gave a 25-hour speech on the Senate floor.

00:25:57.780 Nobody had any idea why he was doing this.

00:26:00.040 He wasn't filibustering any particular law or policy.

00:26:03.120 He was just, he was filibustering to filibuster.

00:26:06.200 What was the point?

00:26:07.760 Well, now we know.

00:26:08.940 The Hill reports, Senator Cory Booker will expand his record-breaking Senate floor speech into a forthcoming book titled Stand to be published by St. Martin's Press in November.

00:26:19.440 This book is about the virtues vital to our success as a nation and lessons we can draw from generations of Americans who fought for them, Booker said in his statement.

00:26:26.980 The news comes about two months after Booker's 25-hour Senate floor speech, which broke records, blah, blah, blah.

00:26:36.840 The senator and former presidential candidate previously published three books, including Cory Booker's Speech of the Century, the complete text of the inspiring speech that broke the right.

00:26:44.560 Wait, wait a second.

00:26:47.460 So this is his second book about the speech?

00:26:50.140 I missed that initially in this article.

00:26:52.760 So this is his second book about that speech.

00:26:57.160 He's publishing a book about his rambling 25-hour screed, and this will be the second one, apparently, because he published the whole text of it.

00:27:08.800 And now he's publishing another book, elaborating even more on the speech.

00:27:15.880 So this is great.

00:27:18.340 You know, for all you big Cory Booker fans out there, all you Booker heads out there, you can now add to your Cory Booker library, your Cory Booker collection.

00:27:29.080 You can get the whole Cory Booker catalog.

00:27:32.480 It'll make a great Christmas gift.

00:27:34.180 This is coming out in November, right in time for Christmas.

00:27:36.160 Christmas, I think that'll be my gift to my wife this year.

00:27:41.580 I don't want to spoil it, but the complete works of Cory Booker, a box set.

00:27:49.100 And I'll give it to her, and she'll look at it and say, who's Cory Booker exactly?

00:27:54.340 And I'll say, who is Cory Booker?

00:27:57.180 He's a man of legend.

00:27:58.540 Tales have been told of this man, this man who stood for a really long time and talked about nothing for no reason.

00:28:07.700 So if you were at all confused as to why Booker was doing this, the fact that he will have published two books about it in the span of two months should, or no, the other one's coming out in November.

00:28:20.080 He's announced two books about it in the span of two months should clarify things.

00:28:24.620 And it should clarify what should already be obvious, which is that he just wants attention.

00:28:31.460 And, you know, I made this point about Nancy Mace last week.

00:28:35.780 I know it seems obvious, and it is, but I think a lot of people still believe that these people, these politicians like Cory and Nancy and Jasmine Crockett and whoever else,

00:28:45.940 a lot of people still believe that these are scheming, power-hungry, Game of Thrones types who lust for power and control.

00:28:57.960 And don't get me wrong, they are scheming.

00:29:02.080 They do want power.

00:29:03.560 They do want control.

00:29:04.500 I'm not saying they don't.

00:29:06.500 But I believe that what they really want, even more than that, is attention.

00:29:12.980 Fame.

00:29:13.460 In fact, the main reason they want to be in power is for the fame that comes with it.

00:29:20.840 Yeah, Cory Booker would love to be president.

00:29:22.480 I'm sure he'll run again, and he'll get another 1% in the polls.

00:29:25.880 Why does he want to be president?

00:29:28.440 Does he want to control everybody, control our lives?

00:29:30.980 Yeah, but more than that, he just wants to be famous.

00:29:35.560 And presidents are really famous.

00:29:36.980 So we have a bunch of people in Congress who actually just want to essentially be TikTok influencers.

00:29:43.880 Or, you know, like if you went to Cory Booker and you were a genie and you could give him a choice and you said,

00:29:54.780 well, I can snap my fingers and I can make you a famous celebrity who can walk the red carpet at the Oscars

00:30:01.560 and who will be recognized and sworn by fans everywhere you go.

00:30:05.940 People will be asking for your autograph.

00:30:09.100 That's Cory Booker's, like, ultimate dream is for someone, anyone, to ask for his autograph ever.

00:30:14.560 He dreams of that every day.

00:30:16.120 Okay, so as the genie, I could give you that.

00:30:21.160 But the deal is that you have to give up your position in the Senate,

00:30:26.500 and you can never hold a position of political power ever again.

00:30:30.000 You've got to give up all your political power, but in exchange, you get to be super famous,

00:30:35.120 and you get to sign a bunch of autographs.

00:30:38.760 I believe that, you know, Cory Booker would take that deal in a second.

00:30:42.760 He wouldn't even have to think about it.

00:30:44.160 You give him the choice between power and fame, he'll take the fame.

00:30:48.440 And that's what so many of these people are after.

00:30:50.580 They're chasing fame. 1.00

00:30:52.360 And that's why they're so useless and vapid and embarrassing, 0.99

00:30:57.000 because they're motivated by the shallowest desire a person can possibly have. 0.99

00:31:04.320 Right?

00:31:04.920 Of all the things that could motivate you,

00:31:08.180 the worst thing to be motivated by is a desire for fame.

00:31:14.160 Because at least, you know, people can be motivated by greed, which isn't good.

00:31:18.980 You know, greed is not, in fact, good.

00:31:21.400 But you could be driven to become a successful businessman and do something useful and impressive.

00:31:29.380 You know, that it can, if somebody's driven by a lust for power,

00:31:32.540 it can propel them towards to do great things because they want power.

00:31:36.940 Now, it can also propel them to do awful, terrible things.

00:31:40.220 But at least there's that chance.

00:31:43.200 If you're driven by a desire for fame, then all you're thinking about every day is what you can do to get attention.

00:31:49.900 You're just a child.

00:31:51.240 Like, you have the mentality of a four-year-old child.

00:31:54.840 And that's what we have in Congress.

00:31:56.620 That's what, the political scene is full of this now.

00:32:01.540 That people who just want to be famous, they just want to be known, they just want attention.

00:32:07.220 And, you know, that's one of my main issues with some of the conspiracy theories.

00:32:16.660 Now, there are plenty of conspiracy theories that are true, or not even really theories anymore.

00:32:20.880 But then others that you hear sometimes, it's like, no, that's not even what drives these people.

00:32:27.640 Actually, a lot of them, anyway.

00:32:30.500 Now, there are people who don't want fame, but want power.

00:32:36.560 Like, they're not interested in the fame at all.

00:32:37.800 They don't want to be known, but they want power.

00:32:39.060 Now, those are the most dangerous types.

00:32:41.580 A lot of these people, especially the front-facing kind of,

00:32:44.840 the politicians who, sort of against your will, you know their names.

00:32:50.880 These are overgrown children who would be just as happy, probably even happier,

00:32:58.280 if they were really successful, using that term lightly, TikTok personalities, right?

00:33:07.120 Speaking of which, Michelle Obama is complaining again on her podcast,

00:33:11.580 which is what her podcast appears to be all about.

00:33:15.120 Let's listen in.

00:33:16.520 There was a line of people waiting to shake hands with our respective husbands.

00:33:23.800 You know, people like reaching over our heads and spilling water on us,

00:33:27.480 trying to get to these two, you know, illustrious men, you know.

00:33:32.000 And she didn't, she had the same look on her face as I did.

00:33:38.360 Like, here we go, you know.

00:33:41.180 And I looked over at this beautiful woman.

00:33:45.820 We had, did we even have a conversation?

00:33:48.240 Not until later in that afternoon.

00:33:50.460 So you hadn't met?

00:33:51.520 We hadn't met.

00:33:52.260 We just saw each other.

00:33:53.400 But I just saw the look on her face, which expressed the sentiments that I felt, which was...

00:34:00.420 Pissed off.

00:34:03.720 You know, first of all, I have to ask again, who is listening to this podcast?

00:34:08.640 There are too many podcasts.

00:34:11.860 There are way too many.

00:34:13.480 We need a complete and total shutdown of podcasts until we figure out what the hell is going on.

00:34:18.880 And, except mine.

00:34:20.220 Mine can continue.

00:34:21.320 But all the rest, that'd be kind of nice, actually.

00:34:24.980 Just wipe it all the...

00:34:26.060 No one else is allowed to do them, only me.

00:34:28.240 For a little bit.

00:34:28.960 For a period of time.

00:34:33.580 It, you know, there are certain...

00:34:35.020 This is not...

00:34:35.920 Well, maybe not every...

00:34:36.900 Because there are certain podcasts that are not part of the problem.

00:34:38.540 Like, okay, so this show, even if you think that my show sucks, which maybe it does, but even if it does, this show's at least a show.

00:34:48.780 It may not be a good show.

00:34:49.760 I mean, I think it's good.

00:34:50.600 I like it.

00:34:52.100 I like it, personally.

00:34:55.240 My mom likes it.

00:34:56.480 So, you know, there's at least one other person out there who likes the show.

00:35:01.140 And so I'm proud of it.

00:35:02.340 But however you feel about it, it's a show.

00:35:04.220 You know, I have segments, I write out monologues, deliver a point of view about things, take it or leave it.

00:35:10.080 It's a show.

00:35:11.220 Not the greatest sales pitch.

00:35:12.840 We've got to work on the marketing pitch a little bit.

00:35:15.040 I'm not saying I would put that on, like, the banner ad if we were running ads.

00:35:18.680 The Matt Walsh Show.

00:35:20.100 It's a show.

00:35:21.660 It's a show.

00:35:22.660 What do you want me to do?

00:35:24.100 If you're looking for a show, here's one.

00:35:27.360 So, but it is a show.

00:35:28.520 But now we have this massive glut of podcasts that are just, that are not even, it's like, there's what, there's no show here.

00:35:36.080 It's just people sitting in a room talking about nothing, rambling, making small talk, talking about nothing at all.

00:35:43.420 Not even interview.

00:35:44.280 Like, I'm not talking, interview shows, that's it.

00:35:46.040 Interview shows are also shows.

00:35:47.760 And there are plenty of interview shows that are terrible.

00:35:50.280 But it's at least a show.

00:35:53.300 But it's not even that.

00:35:54.260 It's just people having conversations, boring, rambling, pointless conversations.

00:35:59.300 Why do they exist?

00:36:00.300 Why would anyone listen?

00:36:01.960 Does anyone want to hear Michelle Obama and, I think that's her brother, make small talk three times a week?

00:36:07.260 Or, you know, whatever the schedule is?

00:36:09.520 Now, there are a few.

00:36:10.540 There are very few podcasts in this style and that style that are actually interesting.

00:36:16.260 Right?

00:36:16.480 It's basically like Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, Tucker Carlson, and a couple of others.

00:36:24.720 And that's it.

00:36:25.520 Joe Rogan is the master of having a long, wide-ranging, off-the-cuff conversation that, where there's, he has no, he doesn't bring any, as far as I can tell, having been on the show twice.

00:36:38.760 As far as I can tell, he's like, he doesn't bring any notes into the conversation.

00:36:43.800 And, but that's what he does.

00:36:46.200 And then it goes to interesting places.

00:36:48.560 And so you'll sit and you'll listen to, like, this two-and-a-half, three-hour conversation.

00:36:53.900 Theo Vaughn is really good at it.

00:36:56.960 Tucker is an expert at the craft.

00:36:59.620 Because there's actual skill involved in doing that well.

00:37:03.940 These guys are highly skilled in the art of the conversational interview.

00:37:09.800 It's not an easy thing to do.

00:37:11.780 Because here's the thing.

00:37:13.100 Every day across the world, millions of conversations are happening.

00:37:17.180 Millions and millions of conversations are happening all the time.

00:37:20.560 And almost none of them are remotely interesting.

00:37:24.300 Like, 99.9999999999% of them are not interesting.

00:37:31.520 Studies have shown.

00:37:32.500 Not interesting to an outside observer, that is.

00:37:38.180 Making a conversation, not a traditional interview, but an actual conversation,

00:37:42.160 making it interesting to millions of outside observers is really difficult.

00:37:47.100 Because conversations almost always tend to only be interesting to the people involved in them.

00:37:52.980 And often not even interesting to those people.

00:37:56.180 And the problem is that now you have, you know, millions of people who say to themselves,

00:38:01.100 oh, I like to talk, I like to have conversations, I can be the next Joe Rogan.

00:38:05.800 No, you can't.

00:38:07.200 No, you can't.

00:38:08.700 You like to talk, but you don't say anything interesting ever.

00:38:14.120 So you can't be the next Joe Rogan.

00:38:16.040 And more importantly, you don't know how to draw interesting things out of the person you're talking to.

00:38:22.080 Again, Joe Rogan is a master at that.

00:38:25.840 There's a skill there.

00:38:27.380 There is a skill involved in that.

00:38:29.200 It's a very rare skill.

00:38:31.420 It's not something you can just do.

00:38:33.960 There are plenty of skilled professional broadcasters who can't do that.

00:38:38.600 I mean, I've been in broadcasting for 18 years.

00:38:42.580 Dear God, I've made two movies that involve interviews.

00:38:47.040 So I know how to do that.

00:38:49.160 I'm familiar with the general world, but I could never do a Joe Rogan-style show.

00:38:57.240 I could be a guest on one.

00:38:58.860 I couldn't host a show like that. 0.98

00:39:00.260 It would suck. 0.95

00:39:00.800 It would be terrible. 0.98

00:39:01.540 I'll tell you right now, definitely.

00:39:03.160 Because that's not my skill set.

00:39:04.360 So the arrogance of just thinking that you can turn on a camera and film a conversation with some random person and that it will somehow be fascinating to the outside world, it's outrageous.

00:39:16.860 It's actually outrageous.

00:39:18.200 Every time I hear about a new podcast that's just people, we're going to sit in a room and have a real conversation.

00:39:25.380 Real conversations are not interesting.

00:39:27.680 I don't want to hear your real conversation unless you are one of like, as I said, five or six people on earth who can have a real conversation that is actually interesting.

00:39:37.500 If you're not one of them, I don't want to hear it.

00:39:40.180 Okay?

00:39:41.520 Which is why when you're like sitting at a coffee shop or something and you can hear a conversation that's happening at a table, it's annoying.

00:39:49.340 That's a real conversation.

00:39:50.360 You're not like turning around and listening.

00:39:52.280 Oh, these are real people having a real conversation.

00:39:55.560 I don't want to hear your real conversation.

00:39:57.680 It's boring as hell.

00:39:58.820 I don't want to hear it.

00:40:01.140 So anyway, Michelle Obama is, all that to say, she is not, and maybe other people will come along, you know, that crew of Joe Rogan, Tucker, Theo Vaughn, like that, you know.

00:40:22.660 Other people will come along, maybe, who can compete in that space.

00:40:25.820 But Michelle Obama is not one of them.

00:40:28.280 She is not one of them.

00:40:30.640 Although her podcast is kind of fascinating, though, in a way, completely by accident.

00:40:38.160 It's not fascinating in the way she intends.

00:40:40.260 It's fascinating because it gives a glimpse into the mind of this woman who lives this incredible life, this life of immense privilege, and yet still finds reasons to be constantly angry and to feel persecuted.

00:40:54.080 You know, now she's talking about the resentment she felt when her husband was getting attention.

00:40:58.360 And the funny thing is that apparently this story she's telling, if you listen to the whole context, which I didn't because I don't care that much, but I read about it.

00:41:07.120 But she's talking about from a time, this thing she described was when Barack was in the Senate.

00:41:15.640 So all the way back then, she was resentful of the attention that he was getting.

00:41:19.880 So just imagine how much angrier and more bitter she got once, you know, he was the president.

00:41:27.880 And this is something that men need to watch out for.

00:41:30.060 This is a major red flag that you need to be looking out for, especially if you have big dreams as a man.

00:41:36.200 You know, if you intend to go out and accomplish great things.

00:41:40.020 If you want to be a man of achievement, a man who is admired and respected, which you should want that.

00:41:49.240 Every man should want that.

00:41:51.520 But you need a woman who will support you in that and cheer you on and root for you and be your biggest fan and your biggest admirer.

00:41:59.260 Because there are two kinds of women. 1.00

00:42:00.980 There's that type, the type that cheers on her husband, feels proud of him, feels proud of his success, feels proud of the praise and attention that he gets.

00:42:08.300 There's that type.

00:42:10.400 I'm very happy to say I married that type.

00:42:13.760 Thank God.

00:42:15.120 Because the other option is unthinkable.

00:42:17.340 The other type of woman is the type who resents her husband's achievements and secretly roots against him and wants to see him humbled and wants to see him fail, really. 1.00

00:42:26.840 And is competitive against him and is envious.

00:42:31.060 And when other people are praising him, she's liable to jump in and say something embarrassing about him.

00:42:37.080 And then we'll justify that by saying, oh, I'm just keeping him humble.

00:42:44.800 No, you're denigrating him and you're tearing him down.

00:42:47.660 And you're trying to deliberately hurt his reputation.

00:42:51.620 And there are plenty of successful men who marry women like this.

00:42:54.580 And it leads to disaster every single time.

00:42:58.060 And Barack Obama married a woman like this.

00:43:05.140 I mean, married a person like this.

00:43:07.580 Anyway, let's get to the comment section.

00:43:11.080 So for the comment section today, I wanted to go back to our cancellation two days ago about the TikTok mom who cried and complained about her husband in a viral video.

00:43:31.060 So, you know, and there's some interesting comments there that we didn't get to.

00:43:37.220 So I'm going to read a few of these.

00:43:39.180 Bethany says, the largest piece of advice I can give anyone married or contemplating marriage, do not under any circumstances disrespect or talk down about your spouse in front of other people.

00:43:47.340 Not jokingly, not seriously.

00:43:49.460 My parents never, ever did that.

00:43:51.120 And they're still married, 38 years strong.

00:43:52.900 My husband and I are going strong at 16 years married.

00:43:55.340 And, yeah, this should be marriage 101 here.

00:43:58.280 You know, playful teasing is one thing.

00:44:00.900 You know, I think that's important in a marriage.

00:44:03.360 My wife and I enjoy trolling each other. 0.93

00:44:05.640 We believe in trolling.

00:44:06.840 We believe families that troll together stay together.

00:44:09.260 It's one of our core principles in our family.

00:44:12.900 But that's something we both find funny.

00:44:16.000 And, of course, the point is never to make the other actually look bad or anything like that.

00:44:20.740 You should never want your spouse to look bad in front of other people like we just talked about.

00:44:26.100 You should be going the other way.

00:44:27.460 You should be going out of your way to make your spouse look good and to enhance the reputation, to enhance their standing.

00:44:36.060 And we've talked about, you know, why wives should do this for their husbands. 0.97

00:44:41.160 But, of course, it goes the other way, too.

00:44:42.800 Husbands should be doing this for their wives. 1.00

00:44:45.960 And it's like you should want your spouse to look good.

00:44:51.200 You should be protecting their reputation.

00:44:52.420 You should be protecting their sort of standing in the community.

00:44:55.340 You should be doing that for their sake.

00:44:58.000 But also for your own sake, too.

00:44:59.720 It's like this is why it's kind of baffling these spouses that tear each other down like this because you're also making yourself look bad.

00:45:12.780 So you're a wife. 1.00

00:45:14.440 You're trying to make your husband look like a loser. 1.00

00:45:16.060 Okay, well, then you're advertising yourself as the person who married a loser. 0.99

00:45:19.580 So even just from a self-interested perspective, you would think that people would want to always be protecting their spouse in that way. 0.84

00:45:27.660 But a lot of people don't.

00:45:31.920 Lex says, and Matt wonders why a lot of men are checking out of marriage.

00:45:35.260 No, I don't wonder why.

00:45:37.080 I understand why they are.

00:45:39.380 I just don't think checking out is the answer.

00:45:42.360 I get the argument.

00:45:44.720 I understand, or at least I understand the catalyst.

00:45:48.920 But checking out is surrender.

00:45:50.720 It's retreat.

00:45:51.300 It's the death of civilization.

00:45:52.900 Civilization, if enough men do it. 0.97

00:45:54.740 And I think that something that kills civilization is a bad thing.

00:45:59.140 I kind of like civilization.

00:46:00.820 I prefer it to the alternative.

00:46:02.580 And so will you, if you ever get the chance to experience the alternative.

00:46:10.000 So I understand why men are checking out.

00:46:14.600 But they shouldn't, right?

00:46:18.160 Yeah, I agree with Matt on a lot of things, but I'm really scratching my head with this one.

00:46:23.360 His stance and all the comments here are disturbing to me.

00:46:25.760 Okay, fine.

00:46:26.240 You have a problem with the wife making a TikTok about it, but no one's addressing the main problem. 0.88

00:46:30.580 The absolute hurt a person feels when they're excited about something and get shot down about it for no good reason.

00:46:35.260 It really does hurt.

00:46:36.000 It makes you feel like you can't share yourself with someone.

00:46:38.680 And if the husband has a pattern of doing that to her, she has every right to be upset about it.

00:46:41.900 The fact that the husband even straight up said, your excitement is annoying, is an unbelievably hurtful thing to say to someone you supposedly love.

00:46:50.960 And no one's even addressing that.

00:46:52.740 So lame.

00:46:54.120 And then Elle agrees. 0.56

00:46:55.120 Elle says, yeah, this comment section is so insane.

00:46:56.940 She obviously shouldn't have posted this for the world.

00:46:58.800 But does it not possibly seem a little emotionally abusive to plan a special date night for your wife and then get annoyed at her excitement?

00:47:04.820 Like she's only allowed to express her emotions on his terms?

00:47:07.340 I don't know. 0.93

00:47:07.760 My mom married a dirtbag like this who will do seemingly nice things to make himself feel good, but then have stipulations on how she's allowed to react to them. 0.89

00:47:16.440 Well, no, you're wrong, both of you. 0.92

00:47:19.700 The main issue here is not that the husband was slightly dismissive to the wife when she was excited about the movie.

00:47:25.460 The main issue is the premeditated, calculated decision to denigrate her husband on social media and make him the object of scorn for thousands of people.

00:47:35.840 You know, this is not an, oh, yeah, well, she shouldn't have done that, but whatever type of situation.

00:47:40.700 That is a cruel, malicious ploy to denigrate her husband in front of the world.

00:47:47.140 And if you think that a slightly dismissive comment about a movie comes anywhere close to that, then I don't know what to tell you.

00:47:55.280 And I also think that you're not, you know, assuming these comments are from women.

00:48:01.880 Well, Elle, I think, is a woman. 0.99

00:48:03.740 So imagine if your husband did this to you.

00:48:06.760 Imagine that you have some kind of seemingly small fight with your husband where you did something wrong and you apologized for it and you guys hashed it out and you thought you moved on.

00:48:21.140 And the next day, imagine that you are now trending on Twitter and TikTok because you find out that your husband made a video about it that went viral and there are thousands of people talking about what a terrible person you are and that you should get divorced.

00:48:36.440 How would you feel about that?

00:48:39.960 Would that just be like, oh, you shouldn't have done that?

00:48:43.500 Or would you be blindingly furious about it?

00:48:49.600 Because I'm pretty sure it would be the latter.

00:48:51.260 I'm 64, I've been married for 18 years, second marriage, first husband, past.

00:48:59.980 Anyway, we, number one, never disagree or argue in public.

00:49:03.040 Number two, we never talk negatively about one another to anybody.

00:49:08.280 And number three, we never go to bed angry.

00:49:10.380 We don't shame one another.

00:49:11.620 That's how we've stayed married.

00:49:12.780 Respect, it goes a long way.

00:49:16.160 Well, I agree with the first two rules.

00:49:18.020 I have to say that I disagree with your third rule.

00:49:20.360 Now, I concede that you're the more experienced veteran of marriage.

00:49:23.980 I don't doubt your wisdom on the subject.

00:49:26.740 But, you know, the don't go to bed angry thing is just one of those really common pieces of marital wisdom that I have found to be personally not useful.

00:49:37.000 I actually have adopted something close to the opposite approach.

00:49:41.800 I'd say, you know, I would say, yes, like definitely go to bed angry.

00:49:48.520 Not every night.

00:49:49.440 Not every night, hopefully.

00:49:51.520 Not often.

00:49:53.080 But go to bed angry if the other option is to stay up and hash out whatever disagreement you're having with your spouse.

00:50:02.120 Because that is the other option, right?

00:50:04.060 Don't go to bed angry is advice that specifically applies to a situation where you and your spouse have some kind of argument and it's getting to be late at night and you can either go to bed, kind of pissed off at each other, or you can stay up and continue the discussion.

00:50:21.440 And in that case, I think in my experience, it's way better to just go to bed.

00:50:27.600 Nothing good comes of hashing out a disagreement when you're both tired.

00:50:33.160 Like, go to bed, get some rest.

00:50:36.080 Nine times out of ten, you'll wake up in the morning way less angry.

00:50:39.820 In fact, you'll wake up less angry and really happy that you did not continue the battle.

00:50:48.460 You know, I think it's a very rare occurrence that someone in a marriage wakes up in the morning and regrets not having continued an argument into the wee hours of the morning.

00:51:03.500 And this is actually where I would distinguish between an argument and a fight.

00:51:11.700 You know, you hear people say sometimes that fighting is normal in a marriage.

00:51:17.180 It's healthy even.

00:51:18.920 And I would say that it's not arguments are fine in a marriage.

00:51:23.560 They can be healthy.

00:51:25.600 You shouldn't be having them every day, but having an argument every once in a while is a normal thing.

00:51:31.480 Fights are not healthy.

00:51:33.440 Fights are bad.

00:51:35.140 Fights are always bad in a marriage.

00:51:37.020 There's not a good one that you can have.

00:51:39.140 And the difference between a fight and an argument is that in an argument, you're trying to get your spouse to see your point of view.

00:51:46.140 An argument happens because you have a point of view about something, your spouse has a point of view, and you disagree.

00:51:50.300 And so you're trying to get the other to understand your point of view and to agree with you on whatever the thing is.

00:51:57.100 And so that's an argument.

00:51:59.000 It doesn't have to involve yelling.

00:52:00.560 It doesn't have to be angry.

00:52:01.620 But that's what an argument is.

00:52:04.640 Now, in a fight, you're trying to hurt the other person.

00:52:09.960 Hopefully not physically, but emotionally.

00:52:12.580 A fight is when you say the thing that you know will hurt them, you know will tick them off, you know will hit them in their insecurities, whatever it is.

00:52:23.800 Because that's the fight.

00:52:25.820 So the objective of any argument is to get your point of view across without turning it into a fight.

00:52:32.880 The moment your argument crosses over into a fight, it's all bad from there.

00:52:37.880 Nothing good.

00:52:38.460 There's no positive resolution possible once it becomes a fight.

00:52:43.100 And this is how it relates to the go to bed thing is that if you're already in a fight, then yeah, the best possible thing you can do is just shut up, both of you, and go to bed.

00:52:55.620 And you'll wake up in the morning feeling better, less angry, probably embarrassed that you were fighting like children.

00:53:01.540 If you're in an argument and it hasn't yet crossed the Rubicon into a fight, then again, just go to bed.

00:53:10.400 Get out while you still can.

00:53:11.960 Go to bed before one of you says the thing that makes it a fight.

00:53:16.300 And the longer it goes and the later it gets and the more tired you get, the more likely it is that because you both have the thing that you could say in your minds, right?

00:53:27.140 Like the pushing, it's like breaking glass and pushing the red button.

00:53:30.700 And the later it gets, the more likely it is that one of you pushes that button. 0.93

00:53:33.520 So go to bed and, you know, shut up and go to bed. 0.71

00:53:38.840 That's the best piece. 0.58

00:53:39.360 If I were to write a parenting advice book, which I would never do, but if I did, not a parenting, a marriage advice book, maybe the title of it would be Shut Up and Go to Bed.

00:53:50.900 That's very often the best thing you can do.

00:53:54.340 And if you wake up in the morning and you feel like you still have more to say, like you really need to continue it, well, you can always do that.

00:53:58.800 And guess what?

00:53:59.200 You'll have some rest under your belt.

00:54:00.740 Like it can't hurt, can it?

00:54:03.000 So, but other than that, I agree with you.

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00:54:34.140 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:54:36.900 As we've been following on this show over the past several months, the Democrat Party has a big problem.

00:54:47.600 Well, they have quite a few big problems, but the biggest of all politically is that men, young men in particular, hate them.

00:54:53.360 As everyone at this point knows, male voters skew heavily to the right and the gap is widening by the day.

00:54:58.520 Democrats are aware of this problem because it's the kind of problem that's very difficult to miss.

00:55:01.860 It's so difficult to miss that even the Democrats haven't missed it yet, or at this point haven't missed it.

00:55:06.780 But unfortunately for the Democrats, they have no idea how to diagnose this problem, and they haven't the slightest clue about what sort of prescription might help treat it.

00:55:16.220 Fortunately for the rest of us, their clumsy attempts to grapple with the issue are often quite amusing.

00:55:21.940 Even more amusing to see what sort of experts they call in to help them navigate this crisis.

00:55:28.000 Now we know the Democrats are big fans of experts, and we also know that they tend to consult experts who don't know anything about their subject of expertise.

00:55:35.720 This has especially been the case when it comes to the Democrat Party's man problem.

00:55:39.060 So, last week we talked about David Hogg, who went on Bill Maher's show to offer his analysis, which was predictably clueless and out of touch.

00:55:47.380 After all, what does a scrawny, 95-pound gun control activist know about masculinity? 1.00

00:55:53.420 Is it possible to think of anyone less qualified to speak for or about the men of America?

00:55:58.900 Well, that question may seem rhetorical, but the Democrats took it as a challenge.

00:56:03.520 Because they have in fact managed to find someone less qualified to speak on the subject.

00:56:09.060 Someone who, in the contest to be the most out of touch on this issue, would figuratively eat David Hogg alive.

00:56:17.920 And perhaps literally.

00:56:19.640 This week, a Democrat activist and podcaster named Micah Erfan invited a woman named Olivia Juliana to explain how Democrats might win back young men.

00:56:28.880 Now, Olivia is a 22-year-old far-left activist and influencer, a rabid pro-abortion feminist, and severely overweight. 0.99

00:56:36.860 And I mentioned that last point, not to make fun of her, but just to emphasize that this is a person who, on the surface, checks precisely none of the boxes that would make her resonate with young men.

00:56:48.000 She projects precisely none of the qualities that men instinctively respect or find appealing.

00:56:54.540 And on top of all that, she's also apparently a lesbian. 1.00

00:56:57.180 Her profile on the website for the National Union of Healthcare Workers, don't ask me why she has a profile there, says that Juliana, quote, identifies as a queer, plus-size, disabled Latina.

00:57:08.000 Again, this is a personal bio seemingly designed in a laboratory to be as off-putting to men as possible.

00:57:15.880 And yet, here she is pontificating about men.

00:57:18.560 But let's not judge a book by its cover, even though you definitely can judge a book by its cover, especially when the cover says queer, plus-size, disabled Latina. 0.98

00:57:26.980 That's a book that's bound to be full of nonsense. 0.94

00:57:29.200 But let's read a few pages anyway.

00:57:31.760 Here it is.

00:57:33.060 I think the Democrats have a really bad problem of every time we message to young men, we frame it in a way that is wrapped up in the same principles that we critique.

00:57:46.180 We critique the patriarchy, we critique the way that men have higher hierarchy and power structures, and then we message to them as if not only is that the reality, but that they have to continue to be like that.

00:58:02.240 So the example I use in the article is the issue of abortion.

00:58:05.880 When we message to young men on abortion, or men in general, we do it from the position of, well, real men protect women.

00:58:13.780 And if you care about the women in your life, you should be pro-choice.

00:58:17.380 And that might be true.

00:58:18.240 That is true.

00:58:19.420 But we don't come at it from the approach of this is the reality that young men face about that issue.

00:58:25.020 Because it's entirely possible that a young woman in college gets pregnant unexpectedly, and that could upend her life if she doesn't have access to abortion care.

00:58:33.720 But it's also entirely true that the young guy who gets her pregnant, now he's on the hook to not only take care of this child that could be him, that could be coming into the world, but also to take care now of the mother of his child.

00:58:47.200 Let me cut in here for a moment.

00:58:50.120 So Olivia, the plus-size, queer, disabled female expert on men, says that the best way to message to a man on the abortion issue is to warn him that if he doesn't kill his child, he may be forced to take care of his child. 0.93

00:59:01.840 And notice how she actually refers to the victim of the abortion as a child.

00:59:05.760 This is one of the rare moments when the abortion activist forgets the usual euphemisms and just comes out and says it.

00:59:11.600 Yes, the child's a child. 0.94

00:59:12.740 And if you don't kill him, you might have to take care of him.

00:59:15.320 And Olivia suggests that this should be the sales pitch to young men.

00:59:19.800 Well, I can only hope that the Democrats listen to her on this point, because the more honest the pro-abortion side is, the more they lose.

00:59:27.760 It turns out that it's not very endearing or persuasive to walk up to a guy and say, hey, you're not fit to be a father. 0.87

00:59:34.080 Have you thought about murdering your child?

00:59:36.460 The only chance the pro-abortion side has to win any argument is to act like it's not the pro-abortion side and to pretend that abortion isn't abortion. 0.98

00:59:43.760 There is no way of honestly talking about the intentional violent killing of a baby without sounding like a bloodthirsty psychopath, as Olivia just showed. 0.99

00:59:54.200 Now, there's more to say on that point, but Olivia has more to say, too.

00:59:56.960 And it only gets worse from here.

00:59:58.500 So let's listen to a bit more.

01:00:00.820 I also think it's just so abundantly clear that the people who say these things don't actually spend time talking to young men.

01:00:12.260 You know this because we know each other in real life, but I spend a lot of time on college campuses.

01:00:17.860 And I spend a lot of time with young men.

01:00:20.000 I love young men.

01:00:21.520 I love frat guys.

01:00:23.280 And in that, I've realized, like, even the ones that identify as conservative are almost always pro-choice.

01:00:30.780 They're almost always pro-gay marriage. 0.86

01:00:32.800 You'd be surprised at the number of them who support a Black Lives Matter.

01:00:36.660 And so I feel like people just kind of lump them into this box when the truth is, again, a lot of them are with us on the issues.

01:00:44.760 Okay, first of all, this woman is not hanging out with frat guys.

01:00:50.280 I don't think a single frat guy on earth has ever thought or said, hey, I know what this party needs, a plus-size queer Latina feminist. 1.00

01:00:57.780 That's never happened, not a single time.

01:00:59.620 And speaking of things that don't happen, there are not any young men who identify as conservative and also profess support for BLM.

01:01:06.900 Okay, that may have been the case.

01:01:08.660 There may have been some guys like that for a brief unfortunate moment in 2020.

01:01:12.520 But these days, that's a quick way to make yourself into a punchline.

01:01:18.460 And support for gay marriage is also dwindling, especially among young men.

01:01:21.200 And, in fact, only a small minority of Americans generally, and young men in particular, are pro-choice, quote-unquote, in the way that she means it.

01:01:32.120 Keep in mind, to a devoted abortion enthusiast like Olivia, you are an enemy of reproductive rights, so-called reproductive rights, 0.99

01:01:39.200 unless you support abortion under all circumstances up to the moment of birth.

01:01:45.560 But that's a position that only a minority actually hold.

01:01:48.460 Most Americans support at least some restrictions on the practice.

01:01:51.700 And as we just discussed, that support dips further when the abortion radicals are actually honest about what the abortion is

01:01:58.100 and why they care so much about protecting access to it.

01:02:02.020 Let's continue.

01:02:03.680 What are the issues that are the most important to young men?

01:02:07.320 One of the top issues consistently is immigration.

01:02:10.300 If you actually talk to a young guy about how he feels about immigration, am I allowed to cuss on this?

01:02:16.140 Yeah, of course.

01:02:16.620 Yeah, they don't give a cuss about immigration.

01:02:20.800 It's this idea of scarcity and competition of if you're a young man in America, you are expected to go to college or go to a trade school, get a certification, get a degree.

01:02:34.480 Then you're expected to get a high-paying job.

01:02:36.600 And then once you get your high-paying job, you're expected to find your wife and to buy a house and to have kids and to do all of these things.

01:02:42.300 And if you don't do that, then you're a failure because you are the man and you are the provider.

01:02:47.240 And if you can't provide, then you're not actually a man.

01:02:50.420 And so the Republicans specifically, they set this expectation, and then they make it almost impossible for young men to actually do those things,

01:02:58.820 whether it's through not raising minimum wage, whether it's through the price of tuition going up, all these different things.

01:03:05.280 That kind of little nagging, insecure voice in the back of the head, that's where Republicans really push through the ideology and get to young men,

01:03:12.620 is because then they can convince them, well, this is the person whose fault it is.

01:03:16.640 It's not your fault that you can't get ahead in America.

01:03:18.820 It's the immigrants who are coming here. 1.00

01:03:20.260 It's their fault because they're taking your high-paying jobs.

01:03:22.600 Right, right.

01:03:25.060 Now, we're going to even – we'll just sidestep.

01:03:27.520 We won't even dwell on the claim that Republicans are making it hard for men to support their families by not raising the minimum wage,

01:03:35.600 as if minimum wage jobs are supposed to be the kinds of jobs where you could support a family, right, which is not the case.

01:03:44.900 Minimum wage jobs are for teenagers working the cash register at McDonald's.

01:03:49.940 That's what a minimum wage job is for. 0.89

01:03:53.800 And anyway, here we finally get to the crux of the issue.

01:03:57.080 This is why Democrats are drastically losing support among men.

01:04:00.280 I mean, Olivia has helpfully demonstrated several reasons, but this is the big one.

01:04:04.800 She acknowledges that, according to the polls, most young men say they care a lot about the immigration issue.

01:04:10.780 But then Olivia, the mystical man whisperer, declares that although men say they care about immigration, they actually don't.

01:04:19.440 She will tell us what men actually care about.

01:04:22.460 Men can't speak for themselves. 0.89

01:04:23.780 Men don't understand their own political positions. 0.96

01:04:25.500 Men can't articulate their own point of view. 0.94

01:04:28.420 Men are lost, confused, helpless. 1.00

01:04:30.360 Men need a fat, disabled, queer, Latina feminist to tell them what they actually think. 1.00

01:04:36.260 And what do you know? 1.00

01:04:38.460 It turns out that men think whatever Olivia wants them to think.

01:04:43.840 Isn't that a great coincidence for her? 0.60

01:04:46.880 Olivia doesn't think abortion, that immigration is a problem. 0.98

01:04:49.360 And that means that nobody else thinks it's a problem either.

01:04:53.420 Even the people who say they think it's a problem, even the people who vote accordingly, don't actually think it.

01:04:59.420 How can they think it?

01:05:00.640 How can anyone arrive at a different conclusion than Olivia? 0.88

01:05:03.240 It's not possible, Olivia says.

01:05:04.940 And if you think this moment of obscene pretentiousness and presumptuousness is the worst of it, just wait until you hear how Olivia wraps things up.

01:05:15.100 America, or voters in general, when they're deciding who they want to vote for, they want a mom and they want a dad.

01:05:21.900 Not to be homophobic, because there can be, you know, same-sex parents here.

01:05:25.700 They want a mom and a dad. 0.80

01:05:26.600 They want someone who, in times of uncertainty, can bring them comfort and can make them feel like there's someone there for them.

01:05:34.880 And then they also want someone who's going to be stern, who's going to have their back, and who's going to say the tough things that need to be said.

01:05:42.660 And I feel like we offer, we try to offer voters comfort, but instead of coming across as, like, mom or dad, we kind of come across as, like, the aunt who you kind of don't like her, but she gets you a really good Christmas present.

01:05:57.160 So, like, every once in a while you'll go visit, like, I feel like that's kind of how we come across as, like, well, I don't really trust the Democrats, and I don't really like them that much, but the Affordable Care Act was cool.

01:06:08.940 And, like, that's kind of the extent of it, is that is how people feel about us most of the time.

01:06:14.960 Okay, let me step in here once and for all as someone who does actually understand something about the male mindset.

01:06:21.960 And let me assure Olivia that no man, no man with even vaguely normal levels of testosterone has ever said, or would ever say, that when he goes to the voting booth, he's looking for a mom and a dad.

01:06:37.780 That is exactly what a man does not want out of a politician.

01:06:41.580 We are specifically trying to avoid politicians who want to be our parents.

01:06:46.360 And we certainly aren't turning to politicians for comfort or to know that someone is there for us.

01:06:53.860 In my nearly 39 years of being a male human in the world and having had thousands of conversations with other male humans, I have never heard a single one of them ever say,

01:07:03.660 yeah, you know, I voted for that candidate because he's a really great parental figure for me, and he makes me feel comforted and seen.

01:07:13.100 I've never heard that.

01:07:14.100 But if I did hear a man ever say that, it would be the last thing I ever heard him say because I would stuff him into a burlap sack and I would throw him into the sea. 0.64

01:07:23.780 Metaphorically, I mean. 0.81

01:07:25.700 And also literally.

01:07:27.160 So all of this advice from Olivia is terrible as expected.

01:07:30.740 Although she did manage to explain inadvertently why Democrats have so much trouble attracting male voters.

01:07:35.640 But all of my rebuttals and counter arguments really aren't necessary.

01:07:39.360 I could summarize the problem that Democrats are having with men with one statement or challenge.

01:07:46.100 So here it is.

01:07:48.580 I challenge Olivia or any other Democrat activist or Democrat official or Democrat talking head to do this.

01:07:55.940 Please tell me one positive thing about men in general.

01:08:04.620 Just one unique and positive trait that men on average tend to exhibit.

01:08:12.740 Now, I'm not asking for a positive thing that applies to men and women equally.

01:08:15.900 I'm asking for a positive trait that men exhibit more often or to a greater degree than women. 0.93

01:08:23.760 Now, you can't say, well, that's impossible for me to say because we can't speak that broadly about groups.

01:08:31.020 Oh, yeah. 0.99

01:08:32.340 Bull crap. 1.00

01:08:33.380 Because if I asked you to do that for women, you could do it in a heartbeat. 1.00

01:08:36.280 If I challenge you to list one positive trait about women in general, you would say, oh, that's easy. 1.00

01:08:41.340 I'll give you 20.

01:08:42.780 Right?

01:08:43.280 You would have no problem singing the praises of women.

01:08:47.540 So, praise men.

01:08:50.500 Just, I mean, you don't have to do it.

01:08:52.120 We don't need a whole chorus.

01:08:53.800 You know, you don't need to sing a whole song about it.

01:08:55.540 Just one sentence.

01:08:57.080 Give us one sentence of praise for men.

01:09:02.380 Right?

01:09:03.140 Fill in the blank.

01:09:03.780 I think men are great because, Phil, and it can't be, oh, because they actually agree with me on everything, even though it seems like they don't.

01:09:17.680 Because that's all we got from that.

01:09:20.340 Just one positive thing about men.

01:09:22.920 Go ahead.

01:09:24.320 Let's hear it.

01:09:26.680 But you can't, can you?

01:09:29.660 For all of your talk about reaching out to men, you can't even bring yourself to say one positive thing about them. 0.72

01:09:37.260 You are as stumped and tongue-tied as you would be if I asked you to list one positive thing about white people. 0.99

01:09:43.620 You can't do it. 0.98

01:09:45.200 And that's your problem.

01:09:47.160 It's your problem among so many other problems. 0.86

01:09:49.160 And it's why young men and anyone else with a brain will not take you seriously.

01:09:56.220 And especially will not take someone like Olivia Juliana seriously.

01:10:00.260 And that is why she is today finally canceled.

01:10:05.120 That will do it for the show today.

01:10:07.320 Talk to you on Monday.

01:10:09.240 Have a great weekend.

01:10:10.560 Godspeed.

01:10:10.840 Godspeed.

01:10:10.900 Godspeed.

01:10:11.840 Godspeed.

01:10:12.840 Godspeed.

01:10:13.840 Godspeed.

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