The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1607 - Democrats Are Gaining Ground With One Key Demographic： The Mentally Ill

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Democrats are losing support in nearly every demographic,

00:00:03.740 but they are gaining support with one group, the mentally ill. What does that tell us? Also,

00:00:07.920 speaking of losing support, the Democrat Party was once the party of the middle class,

00:00:11.140 but is no longer. What happened there? And a prominent Bible scholar and alleged Christian

00:00:15.580 leader comes out in favor of abortion in many cases. We'll talk about all that and more today

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00:01:26.580 In just the last six months, a socialist torched the governor's mansion in Pennsylvania. A trust fund

00:01:32.660 psycho stalked a healthcare CEO and then shot him in the back. An illegal alien from Egypt named

00:01:38.040 Mohammed threw Molotov cocktails at a group of Jewish demonstrators. Mobs of visibly unhealthy

00:01:43.520 Antifa activists attacked a Christian concert in Seattle, injuring several people and sending one

00:01:48.780 police officer to the hospital. The attackers effectively received an endorsement from the mayor

00:01:52.620 of Seattle, as you recall. A man from Massachusetts was arrested at the Capitol after admitting that

00:01:58.220 he planned to set fire to the Conservative Heritage Foundation and murder Pete Hegseth,

00:02:03.320 whom he called a Nazi. An assassin who complained about white people on the internet murdered two

00:02:09.480 diplomats in Washington shouting, free Palestine, as he was dragged away by police. A pro-abortion

00:02:15.140 extremist blew up a car outside of a fertility clinic in California, causing the single biggest explosion

00:02:20.940 that Southern California had ever seen in its history. Now, every single one of these acts

00:02:26.080 of terrorism was committed either by an avowed leftist or by somebody acting on behalf of left-wing

00:02:32.080 causes. So it's a far cry from the greatest domestic terror threat that Merrick Garland and Joe Biden

00:02:38.040 repeatedly warned us about, which was supposedly white supremacy. And this is just a sampling of what

00:02:43.800 these people have been up to over the past six months. All of these incidents, keep in mind,

00:02:48.380 happened after they tried to assassinate Donald Trump twice last summer. And by contrast, you won't

00:02:55.100 find a single comparable example of right-wing terrorism in the same time period. I mean, not a

00:03:01.120 single one. There are no roving mobs of angry Christians throwing objects at self-identified trans

00:03:06.880 people who are attending a concert. There are no right-wingers detonating car bombs at abortion facilities or

00:03:12.600 walking into the Capitol and announcing their intention to murder prominent Democrats.

00:03:16.360 For all intents and purposes, this is a tendency that is nearly entirely unique to the left.

00:03:24.100 Now, it's not to say that no conservative has ever committed an act of violence, but if you look at

00:03:29.060 the trends, especially in recent years, it's a very stark disparity. And everybody knows that's true.

00:03:34.760 And yet, despite how obvious this trend is, nobody on the left has even attempted to provide an honest

00:03:40.340 explanation about what exactly is going on. Instead, when they're not blaming Donald Trump for

00:03:44.840 everything, prominent figures on the left are pumping out some of the most vapid and irrelevant

00:03:49.420 content that you can imagine. Michelle Obama is doing podcasts with her brother where they debate

00:03:53.960 whether a hot dog is really a sandwich. They've also argued about whether beets should come with

00:03:59.320 a warning label when they appear on restaurant menus because, you know, a lot of people hate eating

00:04:03.260 them. So compelling stuff for their 40,000 viewers, most of whom aren't even watching the videos.

00:04:07.920 They're just popping into the comment section to call Michelle Obama a man. Meanwhile, Gavin Newsom,

00:04:13.500 the presumed frontrunner for the Democrats presidential nomination in 2024, is hosting his own podcast

00:04:18.480 that is bombing terribly because, predictably enough, it's an extremely insincere, phony production.

00:04:26.200 Newsom will interview conservatives, but he won't actually engage with anything they're saying.

00:04:30.140 And he certainly won't offer any kind of genuine explanation of the current state of the Democrat Party.

00:04:33.840 In other words, Newsom's podcast is as phony as he is, and so it's basically a flop. But,

00:04:40.100 you know, recently there was one notable attempt on the left to try to explain from a dispassionate

00:04:47.320 perspective what exactly is wrong with their whole movement. Now, I'm talking about a recent

00:04:52.540 Substack post by Nate Silver. And in case you're not familiar with Nate Silver, he's the data guy who's

00:04:58.680 famous for constructing an extremely elaborate computer model that crunches data from a wide

00:05:03.860 variety of political polls, runs them through a highly proprietary and complicated algorithm,

00:05:09.980 and then tells you that the election is basically a toss-up. He ran the website FiveThirtyEight back

00:05:14.460 in the day, and even though it was either wrong or useless most of the time, it was still pretty

00:05:19.280 successful because, in general, people love to hear about the odds that something will or will not

00:05:23.680 happen. It doesn't matter if the odds are made up. People just love hearing the odds. For example,

00:05:29.800 nervous liberals loved hearing from Nate Silver that Hillary Clinton had an 85% chance of winning

00:05:34.800 shortly before the 2016 election, whether or not that figure had any basis in reality, which,

00:05:39.240 of course, it didn't. But in this particular case, Silver has written a breakdown of data that's

00:05:44.500 actually worth looking at and talking about. I'm referring to his article entitled,

00:05:49.160 Why Young Men Don't Like Democrats. And in this article, Silver includes this chart,

00:05:54.940 which we'll put up on the screen right now. You can see it right there. This is data from the

00:06:00.580 Cooperative Election Study at Harvard. And as you can see, the chart is entitled,

00:06:05.480 Higher Self-Reported Mental Health Correlates with Conservative Political Views. And as you'll see,

00:06:11.280 that turns out to be actually kind of an understatement. Specifically, the data show that when you look at

00:06:17.980 voters who report that they have poor mental health, liberals outnumber conservatives 45% to 19%.

00:06:25.220 That's a 26-point swing. And then if you look at voters who report having excellent mental health,

00:06:30.080 you'll find that conservatives make up 51% of those voters, while liberals make up just 20%.

00:06:35.660 That's a 31-point differential. And here's how Silver interprets these results after saying that he

00:06:40.860 was surprised by the numbers somehow. He says, quote,

00:06:44.980 The young men that Democrats have trouble with aren't necessarily the ones who have been captured

00:06:49.420 by the conservative manosphere and who are looking for a helping hand. Rather, it's those who report

00:06:53.980 relatively high mental health and see Democrats as being too neurotic and perhaps constraining their

00:06:58.380 opportunity to compete and reap the rewards of their work, close quote. Now, as far as I can tell,

00:07:04.220 as mild as this observation might seem, it's the first serious effort on the left to understand

00:07:10.320 why voters are rebelling against the Democrat Party. And the more blunt way to put this, of course,

00:07:16.100 is that, you know, Democrats have gone insane. The violence that we're seeing all over the country

00:07:21.780 from Pennsylvania to California isn't the result of one or two lone gun men. It's the natural byproduct

00:07:27.780 of a political party that now caters almost exclusively to people with serious mental health conditions.

00:07:34.220 And a lot of voters, particularly young men, are tired of associating with this nonsense. So they're

00:07:39.780 voting Republican in greater numbers than ever before. But while that's obviously true,

00:07:45.320 it's also an oversimplification. It's important to point out that among Democrats, you know,

00:07:51.400 it's fashionable to say that you're suffering from some kind of mental health problem. This is like a,

00:07:56.440 this is a, this is a trend. You know, this is a, they wear it as a badge of honor. It's an easy way to

00:08:02.300 gain some victimhood currency while also excusing your own antisocial behavior. So it's kind of like

00:08:07.120 it's, they get a two for one special on that. They become victims and they also get to

00:08:12.140 have an excuse for when they behave in a deranged and narcissistic way. And therefore many of these

00:08:18.640 people who self-report having poor mental health in reality aren't completely insane. They could

00:08:25.100 probably become 10 times happier if they ditched their 200 square foot studio apartment in New York

00:08:29.860 City and stopped obsessing over Donald Trump and decided to start a family and live a real human

00:08:34.700 life. But that would require some introspection on the part of these disaffected liberals. It would

00:08:39.400 also require breaking away from the mold and rejecting the comfort of conformity, which is the

00:08:43.580 hardest thing for a liberal to do. It's a lot easier to say that you suffer from a mental health disorder

00:08:49.440 and absolve yourself of all responsibility for your own life. And unquestionably, that's a big part of

00:08:56.200 what these numbers reflect. Now, if you drill down a little deeper into the numbers, you'll see

00:09:01.220 exactly what, which demographic is prone to this kind of thinking. And Nate Silver doesn't get into

00:09:07.960 this, but many of these supposedly troubled Democrat voters are women. This is a survey from Pew from a

00:09:15.380 few years back, and we'll put that up on the screen as well. Pew asked a series of different demographics

00:09:21.140 whether a healthcare professional had ever told them that they had a mental health condition.

00:09:26.160 And the results are even harder to believe than the figures that Nate Silver cited.

00:09:31.760 Harder to believe anyway, if you're a bit naive. It turns out that more than half of white liberal

00:09:38.140 women age 18 to 29 answer in the affirmative, okay, that they've been told they have a mental health

00:09:44.540 problem. More than half. Specifically, 56% of them said yes, that they have been told by a mental

00:09:52.000 health professional that they have some kind of mental disorder. Meanwhile, only around 28% of white

00:09:59.060 moderate women and white conservative women in that same age group said yes to that question,

00:10:04.060 which is still an extremely high number, but nowhere near what liberal women are reporting.

00:10:09.100 And if you look at liberal men in the 18 to 29 age group, you'll see that the numbers aren't much

00:10:15.160 better. 33% of white liberal men said that they'd been told they had a mental health condition,

00:10:19.640 but only 16% of conservative white men said that they had been told the same thing.

00:10:25.000 So that's yet another very big disparity. And to be clear, this data says that liberal men

00:10:32.520 are diagnosed with mental illness at a much higher rate than conservative and moderate women.

00:10:37.620 And then liberal women are on another planet, essentially. Again, this data doesn't necessarily

00:10:44.280 mean that most liberal women and men do in fact suffer from mental health conditions,

00:10:49.920 although many of them clearly do. But it does mean that they're seeking out therapy to deal with

00:10:54.920 their problems, which almost always results in a diagnosis because that's how therapists make money.

00:11:00.200 This is the doom loop that Democrat voters have found themselves in. They recognize that they have a

00:11:05.100 problem, but because they're told to trust the science and listen to the experts, they don't

00:11:09.520 try to find a solution on their own. Instead, they pay someone to find that solution for them,

00:11:14.040 even though the therapist they're paying has a clear conflict of interest and doesn't have any

00:11:18.880 actual financial incentive to help them get over whatever their problem is, because then the

00:11:25.320 therapist lose money. They want to keep the people coming back. They want repeat customers.

00:11:28.440 Now, a couple of more data points are worth talking about, especially if you're tempted to chalk all

00:11:33.900 these differences up to biology. Here's a chart showing how many men report having good mental

00:11:40.300 health. That's the blue number. And as compared to the number of women who report having good mental

00:11:45.540 health, that's the red number there. The data goes all the way back to the 1920s.

00:11:51.360 And as you can see, men have always reported having better mental health than women, but

00:11:55.660 the disparity is far larger now than it's ever been. Quoting again from the article,

00:12:01.740 the gap is much bigger for Gen Z than for earlier generations, responding with a

00:12:05.540 widening gender gap among young voters in the United States and other countries. Indeed,

00:12:10.240 in the United States, higher self-reported mental health is strongly correlated with holding conservative

00:12:14.980 political views. Now, this is a phenomenon that's happening all over the world, although it's

00:12:20.360 especially pronounced in this country. Liberals are increasingly reporting that

00:12:25.060 they're losing their minds at a higher rate than ever before. And liberal women are particularly

00:12:31.860 affected. So what exactly is going on here? For Democrats, it's kind of a classic chicken or egg

00:12:39.640 problem. People like Nate Silver are trying to figure it out. Is liberalism simply attracting crazy

00:12:46.560 people or is liberalism making people crazy? And the answer, of course, is both. Now, on the one hand,

00:12:54.580 liberalism is clearly the ideology of choice for misfits who already suffer from mental illness.

00:12:59.740 They'll find affirmation on the left, as well as encouragement to pursue whatever depraved course

00:13:04.260 of action they're thinking of. Additionally, liberalism and the indoctrination and propaganda

00:13:08.760 that millions of young people are forced to endure starting at a young age is creating new mental

00:13:14.660 patients, or at least people who think they're mentally disturbed. It's turning otherwise healthy

00:13:18.640 people into neurotic, unpleasant, and unhinged activists. This is the inevitable consequence

00:13:24.660 of embracing an ideology that's completely divorced from reality. And that's exactly what Democrats have

00:13:29.560 done. The effect is particularly pronounced among young women who are now more bitter and unhappy than

00:13:34.860 ever before relative to men, even though feminism promised the opposite result. In the end, as it turns out,

00:13:41.260 women aren't happy with, you know, when they're encouraged to murder their children or pressured

00:13:45.380 into working 80-hour weeks for a Fortune 500 corporation. They're not actually thrilled at

00:13:50.380 the prospect that womanhood is a completely arbitrary and meaningless concept. But the leaders

00:13:55.340 of the Democrat Party don't care about any of this, because when it counts, women have been reliable

00:14:00.760 voters for Democrats. So whether they're miserable or not, Democrats don't care. Actually, they prefer for

00:14:07.380 them to be miserable because that's, you know, that's the state that Democrats want voters to be in

00:14:12.860 because it makes them more likely to vote Democrat. Like, miserable, unhappy with yourself,

00:14:18.240 self-loathing. As we've seen, the more people are feeling that way, the more likely they are to vote

00:14:23.500 Democrat. And this analysis by Nate Silver suggests that at some level, liberals are finally starting to

00:14:30.020 recognize that this is an unsustainable approach. When you invent an alternate universe and then bombard

00:14:35.700 everybody with obvious lies, then you've created a very fragile and unstable coalition.

00:14:41.940 And with every act of terrorism that the left commits in broad daylight, that coalition is

00:14:47.860 becoming smaller and smaller because moderates and sane people in general realize what's going on.

00:14:53.500 The last election didn't simply reflect Kamala Harris's lack of political talent, although that

00:14:57.360 was certainly a big factor. It also reflected the public's disdain for political terrorism and mental

00:15:02.660 disorder. And in the seven months since that election, Democrats have only offered more of

00:15:08.240 the same, more violence, more attacks, more intimidation. Two assassination attempts on

00:15:13.880 Trump, though unprecedented, were just the opening salvo for these people. And now we're hearing about

00:15:18.680 a new assassination every other week because for an increasing number of Democrats, that's their

00:15:24.040 preferred way of expressing themselves. Yes, one Nate Silver article at a time, this sad reality is

00:15:30.240 finally dawning on the supposedly intellectual wing of the Democrat Party. But Democrats still don't

00:15:35.260 have any solutions, probably because they don't want any. And that means inevitably that left-wing

00:15:40.160 terrorists will continue to attack many more people on a regular cadence. They'll continue to become

00:15:45.460 more violent and brazen as we approach the midterm elections. This is the party that Democrats have

00:15:50.720 created. This is the constituency they've cultivated. It's far worse than highly credentialed experts like

00:15:57.600 Nate Silver ever imagined it could possibly be. But it's what the leaders of the Democrat Party

00:16:02.460 wanted. They sought out the least happy, most deranged people they could find. And precisely because

00:16:08.800 their constituency is so unstable, no one, including these Democrat leaders, truly has any idea what's

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00:17:23.120 we've got some more bad news for Democrats and we'll let CNN break this difficult news. Difficult for

00:17:28.740 them anyway. Here it is. Watch. When after the last few months, the first five months of the Donald

00:17:34.600 Trump presidency, right, the first four months of the Donald Trump presidency, that you expect that

00:17:38.720 Democrats would have this massive lead on the economy. It ain't so. It ain't so. The party that

00:17:43.780 is closest to your economic views. In November of 2023, it was the Republicans by 11 points. Now

00:17:48.800 it's still within that range, still within that margin of error, plus eight point advantage for

00:17:53.440 the Republican Party. How is that possible, Democrats? How is that possible after all the

00:17:57.980 recession fears, after the stock market's been doing all of this, after all the terrorists that

00:18:02.320 Americans are against, and Republicans still hold an eight point lead on the economy? Are you kidding

00:18:06.860 me? If it was just this one CNN poll, that would be one thing. But take a look at Reuters' Ipsos.

00:18:11.660 What do we see here? Party with a better economic plan. Well, in May of 2024, just before Donald

00:18:17.900 Trump was reelected president, Republicans had a nine point advantage. Look at where we

00:18:21.660 are now in May of 2025. The advantage actually went up by three points. Now Republicans have

00:18:27.820 a 12 point advantage when it comes to the party with a better economic plan. And again, this

00:18:32.620 is after months of supposed economic uncertainty in which the stock market's been going bonkers,

00:18:38.180 in which the tariff wars that Americans are against have been going on. And yet, despite all of that,

00:18:43.220 the Democrats are down by 12 points on the economy. This speaks to Democratic problems on the economy

00:18:48.380 better than basically anything that you could possibly look at. The Republicans still hold an

00:18:53.100 advantage on the all important key issue of the day, which is the party of the middle class, has been a

00:18:58.540 huge advantage for Democrats. I have polling from NBC going all the way back since 1989, when Democrats

00:19:03.840 had a 23 point advantage. 2016, a 17 point advantage. But by this decade, we already started

00:19:08.980 seeing declines back in 2022, where you saw that Democrats led, but only by four points, well within

00:19:14.320 the margin of error. And now in our latest CNN poll among registered voters, which is the party of the

00:19:19.060 middle class, it is tied. This, I think, speaks to Democratic ails more than anything else. They have

00:19:23.860 traditionally been the party of the middle class. No more. Donald Trump and the Republican Party

00:19:28.520 have taken that mantle away. So it's all pretty striking. Uh, you know, I'm not as shocked by it

00:19:34.500 as CNN is, but it's still surprising in a way to see that trajectory, uh, on the question of which

00:19:40.480 party is the party of the middle class. Have we ever seen a political party self-destruct to this

00:19:45.700 extent? Have we ever seen this kind of sustained cataclysmic nuclear meltdown by a political party?

00:19:51.540 It's, I mean, it's, it's pretty amazing. It's like, you know, it's, it's amazing. Like watching the

00:19:56.260 Titanic sink, you know, it's kind of an awe-inspiring sight. It's not, however, mysterious. It's like,

00:20:02.100 it's not mysterious why the Titanic sunk. It's the big chunk of ice. And it's, it's the same with

00:20:07.460 the Democrat party. It's lost its title as the party of the middle class because it spent the

00:20:13.320 last 30 years longer, really, but certainly the last 30 years doing everything in its power to make

00:20:18.920 life worse for the middle class and for normal Americans of any economic class. And that's,

00:20:25.720 this is what happens when you support illegal immigration, when you facilitate and promote

00:20:30.680 the replacement, replacement of American workers with foreigners, when you take the side of

00:20:36.040 violent criminals over law-abiding citizens, when you deliberately try to break down law and order,

00:20:41.800 when you deliberately try to make communities less safe, when you demonize the police, when you make

00:20:47.180 our schools into left-wing indoctrination centers, when you start shoving sexual degeneracy into our faces,

00:20:52.260 when you, you know, make transing the kids into one of your top priorities, when you take down the

00:20:56.300 American flag and replace it with a pride flag and on and on and on. All of this stuff obviously

00:21:01.520 alienates, uh, normal Americans because it's either irrelevant to their lives or it's designed to make

00:21:06.980 their lives worse. You know, and, and most of it makes their lives act. In fact, actually all of the

00:21:14.060 things I just mentioned actively makes the lives of Americans worse. And this is the fundamental

00:21:21.280 problem the Democrats have. The fundamental problem is it's, it's not anything to do with optics or

00:21:25.300 anything like that. The fundamental problem is that all of their policies, their entire platform,

00:21:30.960 their entire political program actively makes life worse for normal people.

00:21:37.660 You know, this politician should be trying to increase the wellbeing of citizens, but they are decreasing

00:21:44.900 our wellbeing. And you know, it's, it's really that simple. It's the simplest concept of all.

00:21:51.000 And when I say that politicians should be trying to increase wellbeing, I don't mean that they should

00:21:54.280 be giving out free stuff or they should be trying to be our parents or anything like that, that actually

00:21:58.480 decreases our wellbeing, but they should be concerned with, um, improving the lives of the

00:22:05.640 citizenry, citizen, citizenry rather than making life worse. Like I said, it's, I mean, it's pretty

00:22:10.580 simple. And really the thing that alienates normal people from the Democrat party the most is that, uh,

00:22:19.440 normal people, normal American adults are most concerned, concerned with, with their families.

00:22:28.880 That's the thing that most adults wake up worried about as a husband and father. My greatest concern

00:22:37.280 in life is my, my wife and kids. Um, that's that any loving father or mother, that's going to be the

00:22:45.380 case. You're most concerned about your family. You're most worried about what's good for your family.

00:22:51.200 And while the Democrat party hates the family, um, it wants to dismantle, it wants to destroy it.

00:22:58.480 It sees the family as a patriarchal construct that must be undermined and ultimately erased.

00:23:05.080 And, um, any analysis of the downfall of the, of the Democrat party, any analysis of the problems

00:23:11.720 the Democrat party has had that doesn't include this point is going to be a worthless analysis,

00:23:18.240 which is why almost all the analysis that Democrats and liberals are doing, uh, uh, all the

00:23:24.460 attempts on their own side to diagnose their own problems. That's why all of that is ultimately

00:23:32.220 fruitless because none of them are going to point to this. None of them are going to say, oh, well,

00:23:42.260 you know, the Democrat party is an enemy of the, of the family of the nuclear family,

00:23:46.260 because the moment that as a Democrat or as a liberal, the moment you recognize that fact,

00:23:53.060 well, that's the moment when you're no longer a Democrat, you're no longer a liberal.

00:23:57.480 The moment you recognize a, that, um, leftism, uh, attacks the family and sees the family as

00:24:08.400 the enemy and B the moment you recognize that that's a bad thing. It's bad to cast the family

00:24:19.320 as the enemy. Well, the moment that you've done both of those things in your head, you're no longer

00:24:23.360 a liberal. You're no longer a Democrat. So by sort of by definition, any liberal, any Democrat is trying

00:24:30.500 to analyze their own problems. They're not going to be able to, they just, they don't, they won't land

00:24:36.880 on this, which is the core issue is that when you cast the family as the enemy, as the problem,

00:24:47.380 it's, it's, it's unsustainable. It's just an unsustainable approach.

00:24:52.740 All right. The post-millennial has this headline, NYC mayoral candidate, Scott Stringer proposes

00:25:00.560 social media surveillance to predict and prevent antisemitic attacks. The article says Scott Stringer,

00:25:08.960 former New York city comptroller and current mayoral candidate announced a plan Saturday to combat

00:25:13.980 antisemitism using technology that would predict and prevent attacks before they happen. Speaking

00:25:20.620 to members of the congregation in a synagogue on Manhattan's upper East side, Stringer outlined an

00:25:28.180 initiative that would involve partnering with the anti-defamation league ADL and employing advanced

00:25:32.740 technology to track social media activity, particularly during international emergencies involving Israel

00:25:38.380 or Jewish institutions. The ADL has developed one at one, what it describes as a first of its kind

00:25:45.820 interactive and customizable map known as the heat map, which allows users to examine

00:25:50.560 specific incidents of hate, extremism, antisemitism, and terrorism, both by state and nationwide.

00:25:56.920 Stringer says it would flag content that incites violence or signals coordinated threats. It would

00:26:01.060 provide the tools for law enforcement, community leaders, and institutions like this one to act

00:26:05.260 before tragedy strikes. Well, I don't like this idea at all. It probably won't surprise you to hear me say

00:26:14.140 that. You know, the minority report was not supposed to be a blueprint. And I'm always going to be

00:26:20.700 extremely skeptical of any new strategy or any new plan or new system for preventing so-called hate

00:26:27.000 crimes. We shouldn't need any new plan for doing that. I mean, I object to the category of hate crime

00:26:32.700 to begin with. I think that as a legal category, it shouldn't exist, but it does. So let's just take

00:26:40.540 that for granted for now for the sake of conversation. And here's the thing. If somebody is making violent

00:26:46.900 threats or actually planning some kind of attack, then yes, we should absolutely prosecute them and throw

00:26:54.860 them in jail, obviously. But that doesn't require any new law or approach or anything. It's already

00:27:04.380 illegal to do that. It's already illegal to make violent threats or to plan violent attacks, simply

00:27:09.680 enforce the laws that are currently on the books. And that's all you have to do. It's not that difficult.

00:27:16.800 And we know it's not that difficult because what do we almost always hear after a mass shooting or

00:27:25.460 some kind of terrorist attack? What's the phrase that we almost always hear? Right? The phrase is

00:27:33.620 known to law enforcement. This person was known to law enforcement. We always hear that. And that tells

00:27:40.160 you that the people who are planning and threatening attacks are not hard to track down, not hard to keep

00:27:45.380 tabs on. It's just that very often the laws are not enforced against these people. So that's an

00:27:52.020 enforcement problem. That's not a lack of laws or a lack of the right tools. And I'll tell you what we

00:27:57.660 definitely don't need. We definitely don't need the ADL involved. I mean, the moment I hear ADL, I

00:28:05.220 already know that it's a horrible idea. The ADL is a far left activist organization. There's no good

00:28:09.780 reason to have them involved in any capacity with law enforcement or with trying to

00:28:15.300 track down potential terrorists or whatever. They should have no involvement. There is nothing

00:28:21.300 of value that a far left activist group can bring to that effort. And because here's what will happen

00:28:30.140 when you get someone like the ADL involved. I mean, going back to the article, reading this again,

00:28:34.660 ADL has developed what it describes as a first of its kind heat map, which allows users to examine

00:28:40.320 specific incidents of hate, extremism, anti-Semitism, and terrorism. Okay. So now we're relying on the ADL

00:28:49.260 to tell us what kind of content counts as hate or incitement.

00:28:56.700 And first of all, we don't need the government tracking down incidents of hate because hate is

00:29:03.180 not illegal. People are allowed to be hateful. I got news for you. It's not good. I mean,

00:29:09.020 you shouldn't be hateful. As a Christian, I would say you shouldn't hate people.

00:29:14.120 You shouldn't hate any group of people or any person, but you're allowed to. It's a free country,

00:29:19.320 supposedly. And that's free speech. So now if somebody is hateful and then goes out and commits

00:29:28.880 a violent attack, well, that's a legal issue. But the legal issue there is the violent attack. It's not

00:29:37.840 the emotions they were experiencing at the time. It's kind of irrelevant.

00:29:44.120 Hate in and of itself is not against the law. And it's not something that the government needs to

00:29:49.580 keep track of or do anything about. That's just, that's, you know, that's, that's, it's,

00:29:56.940 that's an unfortunate reality of living in a fallen world. That's, we are a fallen species. And,

00:30:03.620 and so people will sometimes have hate in their heart. They're, you know, greed, pride. I mean,

00:30:09.120 all these things, they're deadly sins, but you can't criminalize them in and of themselves.

00:30:16.800 You know, you can't criminalize a state of mind.

00:30:22.160 And, but this is what you get when you involve an anti-American organization like the ADL. If,

00:30:26.600 I mean, if you want to just track down actual violent threats, which again, you should,

00:30:34.320 you don't need the ADL for that. Law enforcement can do that. The ADL is not a law enforcement agency.

00:30:43.640 Once you involve the ADL, that means that you're expanding beyond what the area of focus should

00:30:48.280 actually be. It means now you're, you're looking not just for threats, for actual crimes, but now

00:30:52.460 you're looking for speech that the ADL doesn't like. You're looking for speech that, you know,

00:31:00.020 makes the ADL sad. And the idea is that like the minority report, we're going to predict

00:31:06.180 that if somebody says something hateful, it means that, you know, they, they might commit some sort

00:31:12.120 of attack in the future. So the ADL, the ADL will, will perform the function of those. It's been a long

00:31:19.200 time since I've seen, seen the minority report, but what did you have? You had like the, the psychics

00:31:23.980 in like a vat of jelly or something with the tubes connected to their brains in the minority report,

00:31:30.720 which I always found kind of funny that this is a futuristic movie. It's set, you know, whatever,

00:31:38.160 hundreds of years in the future. And they figured out how to predict if crime is going to happen.

00:31:43.080 And so you assume that, well, it's the future. They must have some kind of technology

00:31:47.280 technology that allows them to predict. But then you find out that, no, they just have magical

00:31:51.560 psychics, which is like, well, if you're going to use the magical psychic thing, then it doesn't

00:31:56.680 need to be set in the future. It could be set a hundred years ago. If you have magical psychics

00:32:00.820 who can predict it anyway. So, but that's what the ADL is going to be now. They're going to be that

00:32:06.700 for, for us. And I think that's a, just a terrible idea all around. All right. Let me mention

00:32:11.980 this briefly only because I have a, I've never had a chance to defend this person before. And I

00:32:16.920 probably never will again, but Joni Ernst is a Republican Senator. She's a squishy milquetoast

00:32:22.800 liberal Republican type. I've never been impressed by anything she's done or said,

00:32:27.840 but a broken clocks, you know, are right. Uh, once a career as they say, so I will defend

00:32:35.700 her on this one. Ernst is the target of a lot of outrage this week. After a comment,

00:32:39.280 she made at a town hall event over the weekend and somebody called her out at the town hall event

00:32:44.780 because of alleged cuts to Medicaid and food stamps that Republicans are supposedly trying to

00:32:51.520 make. And the supposed cuts to Medicaid are, of course, just about rooting out fraud and abuse.

00:32:57.200 There's a lot of it, uh, getting illegal aliens off of the program, for example,

00:33:01.840 but somebody called her out for it and said that people are going to die as a result of,

00:33:06.900 of this. And here's what Ernst said in reply. Listen,

00:33:12.420 Oh, people are not, well, we all are going to die.

00:33:20.640 So that upset a lot of people, as you can imagine. Uh, she said, we're all going to die.

00:33:27.540 You know, someone shouted, people are going to die. That she said, well, we're all,

00:33:30.720 we're all going to die. Um, I love that answer. I know everyone's mad about it, but

00:33:36.240 even a lot of Republicans would say, Oh, you can't, that's bad optics. Whatever. I think it's

00:33:40.800 a good answer. That's what I would have said. And you know, you could argue that if it's what

00:33:46.720 I would have said, then it's a good indication that you shouldn't be saying it as a Republican

00:33:50.100 politician. I don't know. But, uh, but who cares? I think it's a good answer because first of all,

00:33:56.040 again, the Medicaid cuts are cutting illegal aliens off of the program, which of course is the right

00:34:01.760 thing to do. And as for snap, the idea that anyone's going to die because of minor cuts to

00:34:06.220 food stamp, the food stamp program is just ludicrous. It's totally asinine. It is not

00:34:12.520 an idea worthy of seriously engaging with. It deserves to be mocked and dismissed as Joni

00:34:18.060 Ernst does here. Surprisingly. Um, it's just not going to have like, they're going to cut

00:34:24.220 food stamps and what people are going to starve to death. Come on. What I challenge anyone to

00:34:31.340 provide an actual real world example of somebody starving to death in modern America because they

00:34:39.260 didn't have enough food stamps. Show me an example, just one anywhere of somebody starving to death

00:34:47.100 in America in modern times because of a lack of food stamps. Show me an example of somebody starving

00:34:55.020 to death in this country, period. Like, I mean, unless we're talking about some really heinous,

00:35:01.240 terrible case that you hear about sometimes of child neglect, you know, um, where, where there's

00:35:06.640 severe malnutrition and even, uh, resulting even in death in some cases, obviously in those cases,

00:35:13.900 the problem is not a lack of food or lack of, of food stamps in the home. It's that the parents are

00:35:19.740 monsters from hell and should be charged, convicted and, uh, executed by hanging the next day. I mean,

00:35:25.820 that's, so I'm not talking about those kinds of cases. I'm talking about a case of somebody

00:35:29.800 who starves to death in modern America because they aren't able to access food, you know, because

00:35:37.260 they don't, there's, they, they don't have enough food stamps. It doesn't happen. And it certainly isn't

00:35:42.880 going to happen because of minor cuts to snap. So, uh, that's just ridiculous. It's a, it's a ridiculous

00:35:48.160 idea. And, uh, and anyway, in general, Joni Ernst is right. Uh, we're all going to die.

00:35:59.380 And I think, I think, and I know I have a bit of a morbid streak you might say, but I think that's,

00:36:06.420 um, it's a very important thing to point that out. That's a perfectly valid answer.

00:36:12.620 And we should be giving it as an answer more often. I think the politicians should be saying

00:36:16.280 that more often as an answer. Um, I mean, not all the time. And I don't mean it in like a nihilistic

00:36:23.900 way, like nothing matters. That's not my point at all. It's actually kind of the opposite,

00:36:28.760 but it is true that we're all going to die. And so every once in a while when someone's, well,

00:36:33.820 if you do this, people are going to die. Yeah. Well, you know, people are going to die. And it was

00:36:36.460 like, everyone's going to die anyway, first of all. So keep that in mind. Um, and, uh, I just think

00:36:45.300 it's good. It's good to be reminded of our own mortality in that way. Uh, it's a healthy thing.

00:36:50.640 It's a healthy thing. So I I'm of all the Republican politicians to give an answer like that. I would

00:36:58.340 not have thought that Joni Ernst would be the one, but she is. And so I give her a credit. This will

00:37:03.820 be the first time. And like I said, probably the last time, but there it is. Let's get to the

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00:38:41.860 for warranty details. Okay. Well, I wasn't sure if I was going to get into this, but before we get into

00:38:49.400 the comments, I do have to complain about something. And I mean, as if that's going to, as if that's a

00:38:57.240 change, for a change of pace, I'm going to complain about something. That's the whole show. But I got

00:39:02.600 to, I have to tell someone about this. I just do. And so I'm going to, you know, I've complained many

00:39:08.300 times on this show about bad drivers and there are a lot of bad drivers out there. There are a lot of

00:39:14.140 them in Nashville. It's just, it's the bad driving hub of the country. And I know everybody likes to

00:39:20.480 claim that they have the worst drivers in the country. It's this weird competition. We all do.

00:39:24.980 And so anytime I say this, I go, have you ever been to DC? Have you ever been to Chicago?

00:39:31.540 Yeah, I've been, I've been to all those places. I've been all over the country and I'm telling

00:39:34.920 you that drivers are worse here than anywhere, period. And, and basically every driver on the

00:39:43.100 road is bad except for me and like five other people. And you know that one of the bad driving

00:39:48.760 infractions that annoys me the most is when people stop on the highway, come to a dead stop on the

00:39:54.860 highway, which is something I see all the time. And they do this often because they're trying to

00:40:01.020 merge, but they get like nervous. So they stop dead in the merge lane, even though they got a

00:40:05.680 lot of runway in front of them, they stopped dead and wait to get it like the wait for a break in

00:40:10.080 traffic, which is not how you merge. That's how you merge. If you want to cause a 15 car pileup and

00:40:16.260 murder seven people at the time, you know, like that's what you do if you want to kill people.

00:40:20.320 So you've heard all that. Well, I don't have much new to add, but I witnessed the worst example of

00:40:27.260 this that I've ever seen. And I saw this in real life over the weekend and I have to tell you about

00:40:33.760 it. And in fact, I'm hoping that maybe whoever did this, it maybe listens to the show. Although

00:40:38.580 I'd be ashamed. I'm ashamed if this person listens to this show. So in Tennessee, there's a law

00:40:44.640 and I think there's a law like this in every state, but in Tennessee, there's a law that it

00:40:50.360 says that if you're on the highway and there are emergency personnel on the side of the road,

00:40:54.540 like a police officer is pulling somebody over or something, then you're supposed to get over to

00:40:59.620 the left as you pass by. If you're in the right most lane and you, and you come up on the shoulder

00:41:03.980 of the road, there's, you see a cop car or an ambulance or something, you're supposed to get over

00:41:09.240 to the left. And the reason that you do that obviously is for safety. Now, of course, on occasion,

00:41:15.160 you'll come up to a police car on the side of the road really quickly. Maybe you come around a bend,

00:41:19.300 there's a police car there, you're in the right most lane, and maybe there's not enough time to

00:41:23.320 get over. Like there's, it's a lot of traffic in the left lane and you can't, so you can't merge

00:41:28.200 safely. And in that case, you know, so you stay in the right lane and, and it's not ideal, but it's okay.

00:41:34.020 In fact, the law in Tennessee specifies that you should move over to the, to the left. If there's

00:41:39.460 a, you know, emergency personnel on the shoulder of the road, you should move over safely. But if

00:41:44.800 you can't move over safely, then just pass in the right lane at a reasonable speed, right? That's

00:41:50.320 what the law says. Okay. So that's the law. On Saturday, I'm driving down the highway. I come up on

00:41:57.260 a police car pulled over. Looks like he's given somebody a speeding ticket or, you know, or something

00:42:02.760 like that. I'm already in the left lane, so I don't have to get over. But then I see it, I'm not

00:42:07.700 making this up. I promise you. I see a car, right? In the right lane. So that, so the cop is like over

00:42:17.780 here in the shoulders up a bit. I see a car in the right lane, stopped, stopped dead in the middle of

00:42:25.420 the right lane, about 10 feet, like before the police car on the shoulder of the road.

00:42:31.760 And it's got its left turn signal on. So what's happening here is that this absolute brain dead

00:42:38.460 moron in that car came up on the, on the police, on the shoulder of the road, knew that they were

00:42:46.040 supposed to get over to the left lane because that's what the law says. But I guess they couldn't

00:42:50.880 get over in time because there's a lot of traffic in the left lane. So they, they stopped in the right

00:42:56.660 lane, just stopped dead. Like they're, like they're at a stop sign in the middle of the highway.

00:43:02.740 And they just put their turn signal on and they're sitting there in the, in the right lane, waiting

00:43:08.340 to get over. I, it, it's one of the dumbest things I've ever seen anyone do on the highway.

00:43:14.080 I mean, this person in order to, in their mind, follow a law that's supposed to make everybody

00:43:20.460 safer, they, they were doing something that could very easily cause a major accident that could

00:43:26.220 easily kill several people. Stopping on the highway is one of the most dangerous and reckless things

00:43:32.460 you could ever do. I mean, you could easily kill someone, including yourself, but I'm a lot more

00:43:39.340 concerned about the other people. And she was doing this. I assume it's a woman. She was doing

00:43:45.100 this right in front of this police car. Just, just sitting there, just sitting there on the highway

00:43:50.620 stopped. And you know, the thing that really gets me is that I doubt she even got a ticket. Like

00:43:58.800 she's right in front of the cop sitting in on the highway. I doubt she even got a ticket. And if she did,

00:44:07.180 she didn't get her license revoked permanently, which is what should happen.

00:44:11.920 We need to be doing this a lot more. I mean, the bar to get your license revoked, even not even

00:44:18.540 permanently, but just for a period of time is, is pretty high. Like you've got to, you have to really

00:44:23.640 try to get your license revoked. And we need to bring that bar down like 20 notches because this

00:44:30.680 is the kind of thing, whoever was in that car, I don't care who it was. I don't care. I don't care.

00:44:35.240 This is an elderly person, a person who just got their light, whoever it was, you're doing

00:44:40.160 something that could easily kill someone. You have, you have, you have no understanding of even like

00:44:46.040 basic safety measures on the highway. You should not be allowed behind the driver's wheel probably

00:44:52.700 ever again. So that's it. Don't stop on the highway. Let's see.

00:45:01.600 Go to the comments. I can't wait for Matt to hit 60 and to put on the inevitable weight that comes

00:45:08.500 with age and life circumstances. Many people get injured and gain weight during a multi-year

00:45:12.840 recovery, which is then all but impossible to take off. Not all overweight is the result of

00:45:18.020 gluttony. Grow up, Matt. Your anti-fat karma is likely to hit you hard when you're a portly 65 year

00:45:24.760 old. Oh, I know. Look, I fully intend to be fat when I'm 65. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I'm in

00:45:30.600 pretty good shape now. I'm only keeping this going for another 15 to 20 years. I'm not doing it. Like

00:45:35.460 I'm not doing this for the rest of my life. Sometimes I wonder why I even do it now. But you

00:45:40.900 know, I'm 30, almost 39. So, but 50, I'll give it 15 to 20 years of me actively trying to stay in

00:45:48.540 shape. And then, and then I'm out. I'm done. I mean, I'm not going to, you know, I hope to

00:45:55.320 continue living, but what do I care about being in great shape after that point? I mean, after that

00:46:00.980 point, you want to be in good enough shape that your heart doesn't give out, but it's like you're

00:46:06.140 a little overweight. I mean, I don't know. So, but when that happens, I will. So what you're saying,

00:46:12.920 what you're predicting that, yeah, when Matt's 65, he's going to be overweight. Yeah, probably,

00:46:16.160 probably. But when it does happen, I will fully admit that, that it's because I'm not putting in

00:46:23.980 the effort to stay in good shape. I'm not going to make any excuses about it. So if my anti-fat

00:46:29.320 karma ever does catch up with me, as you say, well, here's my, I, everything I say about the fact that

00:46:36.060 if you're overweight, it's because you're lazy and you don't want to put the effort in to get into

00:46:40.880 better shape. That's just a fact. I'm sorry. That's a fact because you could eat less, but you don't feel

00:46:45.340 like doing it and you could get some exercise. You don't feel like doing that either. And so

00:46:48.600 that's why you're overweight. Cause you're like, you're kind of lazy. And if you're really overweight,

00:46:52.800 it's because you're really lazy. But when I say all that, that's not me declaring that I will never

00:47:00.180 be overweight in my life. I might be one. In fact, I probably will be one day, but so I'm not pledging

00:47:08.840 that I'll never be overweight. What I am pledging is that when I am overweight, when that day comes,

00:47:12.780 I'm not going to make excuses for it. And if somebody says, oh, well, you know, you're,

00:47:16.360 you're, you're just being lazy. Like you could put some effort in and lose some weight. If somebody

00:47:19.800 says that to me, I'll say, yeah, you're right. Yeah. But I just, I don't feel like doing it. So

00:47:25.100 this is it. This is what, this is what, this is where we're at now. I'll go to the doctor. The doctor

00:47:29.460 will say, you know, if you change your diet a little bit, you could get rid of that, get rid,

00:47:34.520 get rid of that, uh, that belly you got going on. And I'll say, yeah, I know, but like,

00:47:38.020 I don't feel like doing that. So this is it. This is it, doc. I'm 65. I'm eating Cinnabons.

00:47:44.740 Okay. That's what I'm doing. Uh, so don't, you know, this is, this is where we're at.

00:47:51.420 Um, I listen to Matt every day and agree with him on most things. He nails the big issues. One

00:47:57.860 small disagreement, his take on anime with Hollywood full of leftist ideology. Anime stands out as good

00:48:02.540 alternatives. Most of it avoids that agenda because Japanese audiences won't watch it.

00:48:06.700 Add in creative stories, stunning animation and unique characters. And, uh, it's worth a look.

00:48:12.560 Matt should give it another shot. I recommend he try the anime saga of Tanya, the evil. I think he

00:48:17.940 would enjoy it. I guarantee I would not enjoy it. Uh, I guarantee I wouldn't. I just don't like

00:48:25.040 cartoons. That's it. I don't know why this is so upsetting for people. I just don't, I don't,

00:48:31.680 I don't know why I'm a 39 year old man and I have to continue to justify the fact that I don't like

00:48:35.560 cartoons. It's just not my thing. I can't get into them. That's it. That's all. I can enjoy

00:48:40.800 watching them at as I can enjoy watching a well-made animated film with my kids, but the

00:48:48.040 enjoyment in that case is mostly spending time with my kids and sharing a quality piece of art

00:48:52.680 with them. Because yes, I do believe that animated films and animated shows can be quality art. Of

00:48:58.320 course. Like, yes, it's art. It's a, it's storytelling. And also there's the art of the

00:49:04.000 animation. So, um, it's a very legitimate form of art and it can even be beautiful and moving if

00:49:09.700 done well, but I'm not going to sit around and watch it by myself. That's it. It's just not,

00:49:14.060 it's not my thing. My wife and I are currently in marriage therapy. I'd love for you to be our

00:49:18.480 counselor, Matt, although I would need some popcorn as I'm watching that interaction between you and her,

00:49:23.140 LOL. Now I've really been thinking about this and I, I, I wonder what it would take to become

00:49:28.380 an unlicensed counselor. Obviously I don't want to go through all the BS to be a licensed one.

00:49:33.700 That's too much effort. Could I open an unlicensed practice? Is that even legal? I don't know. I have

00:49:39.220 to look into it, but I have thought about it. I've actually thought about it. I, cause I can tell you

00:49:44.480 this, if I was a couples therapist, then like 95% of my advice would just be like me saying,

00:49:56.540 will you two shut up? You're both acting like, will you just shut up? Both of you. You're both

00:50:02.780 acting like, you're both acting like children. Get out. That's it. I would listen to the couple

00:50:07.440 squabble and tell me their stupid problems for about five minutes. And then I would say,

00:50:12.360 this is dumb. Like you, you know what? Stop having these problems. That's my answer. Just

00:50:17.280 cut it out. Both of you. No, you're both. No, but she does this, but now you're both wrong.

00:50:21.380 You're both equally wrong. Get the hell out of my office, but you're going to pay for the full

00:50:25.020 price. I'll tell you that right now. It's $600 an hour. Give $600 to my secretary out there and get

00:50:31.460 out. So that would be, that'd be 95% of it. And then the other 5% would be people with, with like real

00:50:38.160 serious problems. And, uh, I don't think I would know what to do for them just to be honest.

00:50:43.740 So they would get shut down after about five minutes also, because I would just say, well,

00:50:48.540 crap, I don't, that's, that is that. Okay. That one's pretty serious. I don't know. I don't know

00:50:52.740 what to tell you. That's, have you, have you thought, have you tried chat GPT? I don't know.

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00:52:32.660 cancellation. Today we have a first timer on the daily cancellation. We'll be canceling the New

00:52:43.340 Testament scholar, famous theologian, and Anglican bishop, N.T. Wright. Wright appeared on the YouTube

00:52:49.520 channel Premiere Unbelievable, where he spent several minutes grappling with the issue of abortion.

00:52:54.780 And as a prominent Christian leader and teacher, you might think that he'd be able to handle this

00:52:59.800 question pretty well and easily. But if you think that, then you obviously aren't very familiar with

00:53:04.520 the current crop of Christian leaders and teachers. Wright did not handle it well or easily. Instead,

00:53:10.440 he talked around the topic for a while before finally settling on the answer that abortion is okay

00:53:17.300 in many circumstances. Watch. When it's presented as you are killing, you are murdering an unborn child,

00:53:26.520 I think we do have to be very, very careful. And I've had personal experience of this with a close

00:53:32.060 family member where soon after the couple discovered that they were pregnant or the wife was pregnant,

00:53:37.700 then it also became apparent that the wife had been accidentally exposed to German measles,

00:53:45.180 rubella. Now, as we know, that exposure to German measles can result in serious deformities in the

00:53:52.700 womb, etc., etc. And the GP in that case, who was a devout Christian GP, said, we're going to do the

00:53:59.860 tests. And if she has been exposed to rubella, if there's a threat of serious defamation or whatever,

00:54:08.620 then we will recommend termination. And I remember my heart in my mouth when I heard that and thinking,

00:54:14.900 do I really agree with that? But at the time, it was absolutely clear for the mental health,

00:54:21.540 never mind anything else, of the mother and the potential father as well, that this was the way to

00:54:28.260 go. In fact, all was well. The rubella had not actually done what it sometimes might do. And

00:54:34.580 that child was born perfectly healthy and has grown up now, etc. This was a long time ago.

00:54:39.940 So that's the charming story that N.T. Wright begins with. A family member thought that her child

00:54:44.620 might be disabled and had planned to kill the child, but it turns out that he wasn't disabled,

00:54:49.080 so they allowed him to live. And Wright, a Christian, does not see any major moral problem here.

00:54:55.280 Also note the excuse he gave for this would-be abortion. He said that it would have been the

00:55:01.900 right thing to do for, never mind anything else, the mental health of the mother. I said a minute

00:55:08.400 ago that Wright had endorsed abortions in many circumstances. And some people will read the

00:55:12.900 headlines about this story, about N.T. Wright's comments, and they'll say that I'm mischaracterizing

00:55:19.200 him because he only endorsed abortions in cases of rape, incest, or where the health of the mother

00:55:23.140 is at stake. And so to say that he endorsed it in many cases is wrong, I'll be told.

00:55:30.920 Now, that still would not be a justifiable position, as we'll discuss. But it's important

00:55:35.400 to note that for Wright, and for most everybody else who talks about these health of the mother

00:55:40.020 exceptions, health includes mental health. And considering that literally every abortion could

00:55:45.980 be justified as a mental health intervention, he is indeed excusing many abortions, if not all

00:55:52.700 of them. But let's listen to a little bit more of his comments.

00:55:57.480 Cases where it is about the mother's health versus the health of the child or whatever,

00:56:03.100 and particularly that, as you cited in cases of rape or in cases of incest, there may be a very,

00:56:09.080 very strong argument for saying this ought never to have happened. And with sorrow, because we do not

00:56:14.840 want to do this in principle, but with sorrow and a bit of shame, the best thing to do is as soon as

00:56:22.020 possible to terminate this pregnancy. This is not something which we should welcome. It is not

00:56:28.420 something which we should collude with. At the same time, there may be certain exceptions of which

00:56:34.240 severe deformity might be one of which certainly incest and rape would be others. And in those cases,

00:56:40.260 I would say the sooner the better, because at a certain point, and I am not medically qualified

00:56:45.960 to say at what point I would draw a line, then this is a viable human being that should then be

00:56:52.600 cherished. So the whole debate about the woman's rights, it's very difficult. It's very hard for a

00:56:57.660 man to talk about this. And indeed, one of the problems has been, particularly in the Roman Catholic

00:57:02.480 Church, when women particularly say a girl who's been raped or who's had incest committed on her,

00:57:09.600 then discovering that unmarried men from the Catholic hierarchy are telling her what she can

00:57:16.560 and can't do. As people now say, the optics of that are pretty bad. That's part of the same system

00:57:23.560 of male bullying, which we have to avoid like the plague. So N.T. Wright is disqualified from ever

00:57:29.940 being taken seriously about any theological or moral issue ever again. As a Christian, you really

00:57:36.100 shouldn't buy his books or listen to him or consult him or take his advice at all, ever. You're free to

00:57:42.040 do that, of course. I can't tell you what to do, but in my opinion, you would be making a mistake.

00:57:47.520 Because if a Christian, especially one who purports to be a leader in the faith,

00:57:51.500 gets this issue this disastrously wrong, then he has discredited himself permanently.

00:57:59.840 Abortion is one of the great moral issues of our time, if not the greatest. And

00:58:03.680 all N.T. Wright can say is that abortion is sad, but he's okay with it if it helps the mother's

00:58:09.520 mental health. And any man who says otherwise is engaged in male bullying. I mean, this is rhetoric

00:58:15.400 from the gospel of Gloria Steinem, not the gospel of Jesus Christ. But perhaps the most grotesque

00:58:20.500 thing that Wright says in his long, rambling, morally incoherent answer is that he isn't medically

00:58:26.560 qualified to say when exactly a human is viable and, quote, should be cherished. Well, Mr. Wright,

00:58:33.020 if you really feel that you are not qualified at all to speak on that subject,

00:58:38.580 then why the hell are you speaking on the subject? If you truly don't know when precisely human life

00:58:44.580 should be cherished, it seems that you have no basis to claim that abortion can be permissible

00:58:49.400 in certain circumstances. By your own admission, as far as you know, the baby should actually be

00:58:54.200 cherished and respected as a human life, even in those cases that you would say are exception.

00:58:58.580 You have no idea. You just admitted that yourself. You're not qualified.

00:59:02.560 But you should have some idea. I mean, you should be qualified to speak about

00:59:06.140 when human life should be cherished because you are supposedly a Christian.

00:59:10.920 You are indeed a scholar of the Bible, which means you should know that the Bible teaches that

00:59:16.100 unborn babies are formed in the womb by God, that he knows us before we're born and even before

00:59:20.420 we're conceived. You should know that God creates every human life from the moment of conception.

00:59:24.600 Every human life is a distinct, unique creation by God. That should give you all the qualification

00:59:29.080 you need to say that all unborn children must be cherished at all stages of pregnancy, without

00:59:36.100 exception. I mean, there is no Christian argument for directly and intentionally killing a child

00:59:42.240 that was created by God and sent into the world by his hand. In order to make that argument,

00:59:48.160 you would have to claim that God makes some children with the intention that we will violently

00:59:53.260 destroy them before they have a chance to be born. But that's not just an insane thing to suggest.

00:59:58.780 It's also blasphemous. And it makes no sense logically. Now, there are only two options when

01:00:04.900 dealing with this issue. Either abortion is the murder of a human child or it isn't. And if it isn't,

01:00:11.060 then there's no reason to put any restrictions on it. And there's no reason to say, as N.T. Wright says,

01:00:16.460 that abortion is sad or shameful or that we should try to avoid it. I mean, Wright is trying to

01:00:21.440 thread some kind of needle by supporting abortion in many cases, but also saying repeatedly that it's

01:00:25.980 a sad and shameful thing. Well, why is it a sad and shameful thing? Why exactly? Abortion could only

01:00:33.000 be morally permissible if it isn't destroying innocent human life. But if it isn't doing that,

01:00:38.740 then what's sad or shameful about it? I mean, it's only sad and shameful if and because it destroys

01:00:44.900 innocent human life. But if it does that, then it cannot possibly ever be morally permissible.

01:00:51.620 If abortion kills a human child, it is always wrong. It is always evil. It is always immoral.

01:00:56.940 There could be no more, there could no more be an acceptable reason to abort an unborn child

01:01:01.540 than there could be to kill, you know, an 18-month-old baby. And these are the two options.

01:01:09.280 So abortion kills a human child or it doesn't. But the latter option, that it doesn't kill a human

01:01:17.000 child, is ruled out scripturally as the Bible makes very clear that God makes us and imbues us

01:01:23.180 with human dignity in the womb. It also is ruled out scientifically as unborn babies fit every

01:01:28.860 scientific requirement to count as living human beings. And it's ruled out logically as an unborn

01:01:34.400 child is in one stage of human development, which means that he must be a living human.

01:01:40.000 It's not possible to be in a stage of human development and yet not be human.

01:01:44.660 What other species could the child be? And that leaves us with the reality that abortion

01:01:49.900 kills a human child. And that means that it's always wrong in every case, no matter what.

01:01:55.480 That should not be difficult for a noted Bible scholar to figure out.

01:01:59.360 And it certainly shouldn't be difficult for him to express. But there are a lot of Christian

01:02:05.740 leaders who seem to struggle with this basic thing. And N.T. Wright is just one of them. And that

01:02:11.760 is why he is today canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for

01:02:16.640 listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.

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