The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1613 - The Immigrant Riots Prove Again Why Diversity Is Not Our Strength

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the immigrant riots across the country provide yet more evidence that despite what we've been told, diversity is not actually our strength.

00:00:08.340 The new talking points have gone out to TikTok influencers.

00:00:11.240 In unison, they're claiming that illegal immigrants haven't committed a crime because coming here illegally is only a civil violation.

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00:02:29.020 Now that hordes of illegal aliens have decided to demolish sushi restaurants 1.00

00:02:33.440 and liberate iPhones from Apple stores in Los Angeles as a very roundabout way of making the case

00:02:38.820 that California is really Mexican territory and that no person is illegal,

00:02:42.820 it's easy to lose sight of the fact that we're not the only country that's experiencing a series of major riots at this exact moment.

00:02:49.720 Over in Northern Ireland, the locals have also been taken to the streets all week.

00:02:53.400 In the small town of Ballymina, a population of roughly 31,000,

00:02:58.440 hundreds of rioters have been throwing Molotov cocktails, launching fireworks,

00:03:03.060 smashing store windows with bricks.

00:03:05.320 And these riots have also spread to places like Belfast.

00:03:08.640 Now, some cars have also been destroyed.

00:03:11.920 Trash cans were set on fire.

00:03:13.660 More than a dozen people, including police officers, have been injured.

00:03:16.140 And even as the police use water cannons to try to disperse the rioters, they keep coming back.

00:03:22.140 On the surface, the mayhem might seem similar to what's happening in Los Angeles.

00:03:26.200 In fact, the noncombatants are using similar tactics.

00:03:30.300 In L.A., some people are hanging Mexican flags outside their stores in the hopes of deterring rioters from attacking.

00:03:37.080 And in Northern Ireland, they are hanging British flags.

00:03:39.820 But there's at least one very big difference between these two riots.

00:03:45.020 And you can probably guess the difference based on the flags I just mentioned.

00:03:48.820 In Northern Ireland, they're not rioting to demand open borders.

00:03:52.820 They're not angry that the federal government is enforcing immigration law.

00:03:56.240 On the contrary, they are rioting precisely because the government is not enforcing immigration law.

00:04:02.160 They're tired of the fact that foreign nationals have been allowed into their country with essentially no limitation whatsoever.

00:04:07.360 And their cause gained new urgency over the weekend when two 14-year-old migrant children allegedly attacked a teenage girl in the town and sexually assaulted her.

00:04:17.500 This is just the latest in a string of attacks by so-called, quote-unquote, asylum seekers in Ireland in recent months.

00:04:25.640 And the Irish have had enough. 0.99

00:04:28.700 So what exactly can we learn from these two events, which coincidentally are happening at the same time in two very different places?

00:04:36.060 Well, it's easy to condemn violence, but condemning violence doesn't prevent violence from happening in the future.

00:04:42.720 You have to address the underlying cause.

00:04:45.160 And what's happening in Northern Ireland and Los Angeles right now give us a pretty good idea what that underlying cause is.

00:04:52.540 It turns out that when you flood native populations with foreigners, you get violence and dysfunction one way or another. 1.00

00:05:00.840 Either the foreign nationals will wage an explicit war of secession, as they're doing in California,

00:05:06.440 or the foreign nationals will commit so many violent acts of terrorism, including acts of terrorism that destroy the lives of children, 0.62

00:05:12.540 that the natives simply can't tolerate it anymore, and then they lash out.

00:05:17.300 And in both cases, we're witnessing the inevitable failure of the cult of diversity.

00:05:23.240 In every case, reality disproves the claim that we hear so often that diversity is our strength.

00:05:31.660 At the moment, Democrats are trying to portray the riots in Los Angeles as anti-ICE protests,

00:05:37.220 but that's not remotely accurate, of course.

00:05:39.700 No sane person believes that it's some great tragedy that ICE is rounding up murderers and sexual abusers.

00:05:45.940 The goal of the riots in L.A., very clearly, is to establish the supremacy of one ethnic group over another. 0.84

00:05:53.040 That's generally what happens when very different ethnic groups with very different conceptions of acceptable human behavior 1.00

00:05:58.100 are forced to live on top of one another.

00:06:01.860 Now, it's become commonplace to hear accusations of bigotry or white supremacy when, you know, you talk like this,

00:06:10.760 but it's essential, especially after what we're seeing in Los Angeles, where store owners are now boarding up their windows at night,

00:06:17.820 to understand that everyone becomes an extremist when they're defending something they actually care about.

00:06:25.140 Why do you think the left is suddenly claiming that Mexico actually owns California?

00:06:28.720 What happened to all the Indian tribes who used to live in California?

00:06:31.860 The ones we've been told are the true owners of all the land in the continent.

00:06:36.180 They got there before the Mexicans, but all of a sudden, the Indians' claim to the land doesn't matter.

00:06:42.760 Instead, the president of Mexico's Senate just came out and threatened to seize land from the United States.

00:06:48.820 Now, he's not speaking English, so I'll read from the translation.

00:06:52.780 Quote,

00:06:53.240 Names don't lie. The most spoken language in Los Angeles is Spanish.

00:06:57.860 The United States government has the right to implement whatever immigration measures it deems appropriate,

00:07:01.880 but they have no right to violate the dignity of immigrants.

00:07:04.500 They have no right to separate families.

00:07:07.960 The politician also said that he told Trump that Mexico would, quote,

00:07:13.220 build the wall and pay for it, but will do it according to the 1830 map of Mexico.

00:07:18.840 So now they're celebrating colonialism suddenly.

00:07:22.700 They're saying that because the Spanish colonized Los Angeles and called it part of New Spain back hundreds of years ago

00:07:29.080 and dished out some Spanish names, somehow that's evidence that California currently belongs to Mexico.

00:07:35.180 Never mind the fact that Mexico didn't do anything with California when they briefly owned it independently for around 25 years,

00:07:41.480 as we discussed the other day.

00:07:43.300 Never mind the fact that Americans brought civilization and prosperity to that territory over a period of more than 150 years.

00:07:50.100 The important point for our purposes is to underscore the fact that activists and politicians will use any argument they can think of

00:07:58.800 in order to defend their preferred ethnic group and nationality.

00:08:03.040 They don't care if it's hypocritical.

00:08:04.660 They don't care if it's unfair.

00:08:06.620 You know, they'll they'll do it anyway.

00:08:07.960 And that's why multiculturalism in every context is failing.

00:08:14.040 It's why we're seeing riots everywhere, not just in Ireland and California.

00:08:19.060 Katie Davis, court at the at the Post Millennial shot this footage from Seattle, for example.

00:08:24.200 Rioters are besieging federal buildings, torching American flags, blockading officers, throwing rocks at buildings.

00:08:32.180 Watch.

00:08:33.400 Washington, ice out of Washington.

00:08:35.800 Washington.

00:08:37.960 Washington.

00:08:39.600 Washington.

00:08:41.700 Washington.

00:08:46.440 Washington.

00:08:55.600 Washington.

00:08:58.020 Washington.

00:08:58.280 Washington.

00:09:00.660 Washington.

00:09:03.100 Washington.

00:09:04.940 Washington.

00:09:05.860 Washington.

00:09:06.420 Now, as the day went on,

00:09:33.500 the rioters in Seattle shot fireworks directly at officers outside of a federal building leading

00:09:39.640 to a brawl, which you can see here.

00:10:03.500 And similar violence is on display in many other cities, including Austin, Dallas, New York.

00:10:30.540 You'll notice that most of the mayhem isn't even directed at ICE.

00:10:34.580 For example, in Atlanta, rioters have taken turns destroying police cars and shooting

00:10:40.700 fireworks at officers.

00:10:42.080 Watch.

00:10:42.340 Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.

00:10:48.880 This is a cone that they smoke grenades in here. 0.73

00:11:04.760 They're putting, it's a perfect, you might talk like here.

00:11:09.220 You got to be careful because of all the smoke grenades.

00:11:11.060 Yeah, they're starting to go.

00:11:12.160 But they're putting cones, the protesters are putting cones on the smoke grenades.

00:11:15.500 Among many other failures that are evident in that video, this is a failure of assimilation.

00:11:22.020 One culture that doesn't respect the rule of law is clashing with another culture that does.

00:11:27.760 And by the way, the implications of this culture clash are a lot more pervasive than you might realize.

00:11:33.280 For example, around 15 years ago, the government in the UK ran a study to see if the race of jurors had an impact on the outcome of criminal trials.

00:11:44.140 And here's what they found after conducting a mock trial.

00:11:47.900 Now, it's a really extraordinary chart.

00:11:51.640 As you can see, 39% of white jurors wanted to find the white defendant guilty after hearing all the evidence.

00:11:59.880 But 73% of black and ethnic minority members of the jury wanted to find the white defendant guilty.

00:12:08.520 Now, think about that.

00:12:09.860 It's evidence that black jurors are overwhelmingly more likely to convict a white defendant on the same facts.

00:12:16.340 And by contrast, when the defendant was black or minority ethnic, the numbers were much closer.

00:12:22.140 You had 32% of white members of the jury who wanted to convict, while 24% of black and minority members of the jury wanted to convict.

00:12:30.400 Now, to my knowledge, no one in any government in the UK or in this country or any other country has followed up on this data.

00:12:38.460 And I only saw it because it was flagged recently by Jonathan Pallison, a social science researcher.

00:12:43.880 But you think there'd be a lot of interest in this particular topic.

00:12:47.000 I mean, if this data is accurate, it suggests that jury systems simply don't function in multicultural societies.

00:12:55.440 They function more like racial tribunals instead.

00:12:58.960 And we've seen signs of that, of course, most famously in the OJ trial.

00:13:03.100 More recent signs of it, Derek Chauvin.

00:13:04.880 But it could be a lot worse than anyone even realizes.

00:13:09.500 Certainly the situation in America's schools has decayed dramatically due to the alleged blessings of diversity.

00:13:16.720 One of the best illustrations of the dangers of the religion of multiculturalism came to us this week from Andrew Cuomo. 1.00

00:13:24.280 Now, of course, he wasn't trying to show why multiculturalism is dangerous.

00:13:28.520 He wasn't trying to expose the cult of diversity.

00:13:31.500 But he did unintentionally.

00:13:34.200 So here is Andrew Cuomo, who wants to become the next mayor of New York, celebrating the fact that 180 different languages are now spoken in the New York school system.

00:13:46.060 And naturally, of course, he says all this while decked out in ethnic garb. 0.89

00:13:49.780 But listen to this.

00:13:51.120 The city of New York.

00:13:52.900 We are the capital of diversity.

00:13:54.760 180 languages spoken in our school system, 180 different languages, people from all across the world.

00:14:05.740 That makes us stronger, not weaker.

00:14:09.460 The capital of diversity, he says proudly.

00:14:12.060 Now, if it's true that there are 180 languages spoken in the New York school system, that is not something to brag about.

00:14:23.360 That is rather a testament to the total insanity of multiculturalism. 1.00

00:14:28.460 It is proof, as if we needed more, that diversity is certainly not our strength.

00:14:33.680 And that's why Cuomo can only assert that this huge plurality of languages is a strength, but he can't explain or defend that point in any detail.

00:14:44.820 Like, I have a follow-up question for you, Cuomo.

00:14:48.580 And it's a very simple one.

00:14:49.960 It's the most obvious one.

00:14:51.080 What exactly is the benefit of having a system where people cannot speak to each other or understand one another?

00:15:01.980 I mean, did you read about the Tower of Babel and think that it's a blueprint to follow?

00:15:06.760 I think you might have misunderstood the story.

00:15:09.760 So please give me an example of a scenario where you would walk into a place,

00:15:15.900 hear people speaking all different languages that you can't understand, 0.98

00:15:18.580 and say to yourself, wow, thank God, I have no idea what the hell anyone is saying.

00:15:23.740 I can't communicate with anyone.

00:15:25.160 This is great.

00:15:27.220 Why would you ever say that?

00:15:28.540 In what exact scenario?

00:15:31.280 Here's a better question.

00:15:32.820 When have you ever encountered a task that would be best performed by people who cannot communicate with each other? 1.00

00:15:41.980 Well, you've never encountered such a task because making things more confused and unintelligible

00:15:49.100 is never the best way to accomplish any task.

00:15:53.120 Least of all, is it the best way to accomplish the task of building and maintaining a country?

00:15:58.760 There are a few things that are fundamentally necessary in order for a nation to continue existing

00:16:05.140 or to exist in the first place.

00:16:07.240 A shared language is one of those things.

00:16:11.880 A shared culture is another one which is built on top of your shared language.

00:16:17.200 If you have a country with hundreds of languages and hundreds of cultures,

00:16:21.220 you don't have a country.

00:16:23.540 You have a geographic area where a bunch of people live,

00:16:27.420 but you don't have a nation.

00:16:28.680 You don't have a people.

00:16:30.780 Now, this nation is called the United States of America.

00:16:35.520 United is right there in the title.

00:16:37.960 We must be united around something, by something,

00:16:44.620 something more than just mere geographical proximity.

00:16:49.640 But when you see these riots breaking out across the country,

00:16:53.000 what you're looking at is the fruits of diversity.

00:16:57.460 These are people we have nothing in common with,

00:16:59.700 people with whom we are not united and can never be united in any meaningful way whatsoever.

00:17:07.960 Again, a nation regresses when it begins to worship the idol of multiculturalism.

00:17:13.620 In Australia, their politicians will come right out and admit it.

00:17:18.840 Here's a remarkable clip from a premier in Australia from just a few weeks ago.

00:17:23.180 Listen to this.

00:17:23.620 There's been some that have been agitating in the parliament to nullify the laws,

00:17:29.920 to remove them off the statute books.

00:17:31.640 Think about what kind of toxic message that would send to the New South Wales community.

00:17:35.540 And I think the advocates for those changes need to explain what do they want people to have the right to say?

00:17:41.740 What kind of racist abuse do they want to see or be able to lawfully see on the streets of Sydney?

00:17:48.460 I recognize and I've fully said from the beginning that we don't have the same freedom of speech laws that they have in the United States.

00:17:54.500 And the reason for that is that we want to hold together a multicultural community

00:17:59.360 and have people live in peace, free from the kind of vilification and hatred that we do see around the world.

00:18:05.860 So he says, quote,

00:18:06.840 Well, Australians don't have the same freedom of speech laws that they have in the United States. 0.75

00:18:11.000 And the reason for that is that we want to hold together a multicultural community.

00:18:18.200 Well, at least they're honest about it.

00:18:20.460 Meanwhile, in the UK, Nigel Farage, the leader of the Reform Party,

00:18:24.040 has just announced that if you've lived in Wales for a few years, then you're Welsh.

00:18:29.680 And you're no different from people who've lived there for generations.

00:18:33.000 Watch.

00:18:33.240 You say that you would like to give priority to people from Wales for housing.

00:18:41.240 How would you define a Welsh person?

00:18:44.960 Well, it's a very fair question from your channel.

00:18:47.640 We hadn't proposed the Welsh language test.

00:18:51.000 No, look, it's got to be somebody who's lived and is settled in Wales, has paid taxes and obeyed the law.

00:18:58.140 And if someone's done that for a five or ten year period,

00:19:00.520 then I think they've every right to say that they're fully part of the Welsh community.

00:19:05.740 Now, if the former leader of the Brexit campaign is talking like this, then, you know, it's pretty bad.

00:19:12.520 But at least they're being honest overseas.

00:19:14.380 In this country, we don't have many politicians or public figures who are willing to acknowledge what they're doing.

00:19:20.000 They won't admit that multiculturalism inevitably means the decline of the West and everything we value.

00:19:24.760 We have to sit back and watch our civilization decay in real time.

00:19:30.060 Now, one of the few commentators who did see this coming was Pat Buchanan many years ago.

00:19:36.100 Listen.

00:19:36.440 When whites are a minority in this country in 2041 and Hispanics are 150 million,

00:19:43.120 what is going to hold us together when we don't have a common religion,

00:19:47.120 we don't have common beliefs about right and wrong and morality as we used to?

00:19:51.580 We are at war over, you know, whether or not equality means equality of rights or equality of rewards.

00:19:57.760 That footage is from around 14 years ago.

00:20:01.020 The question that Pat Buchanan asked, what will hold us together?

00:20:06.500 It's a very good question.

00:20:08.080 Has now been definitively answered.

00:20:10.740 And it's nothing.

00:20:12.440 Nothing will hold us together.

00:20:14.260 All over the world, countries that bought into the lie that diversity makes us stronger

00:20:20.060 are rapidly becoming unrecognizable.

00:20:23.540 And in many cases, the people, people didn't vote for this.

00:20:26.440 It was forced on them by their leaders.

00:20:29.380 And until this disastrous experiment is reversed, which should be the Trump administration's top priority,

00:20:36.240 the violence and dysfunction will only continue and get worse.

00:20:41.280 We can either reject the cult of multiculturalism and diversity or one large-scale riot at a time.

00:20:49.620 We can allow it to destroy the United States.

00:20:51.680 And if that happens, we'll be listening to our politicians tell us that the First Amendment is suspended

00:20:57.060 in order to promote diversity, just like they do in Australia.

00:21:00.900 And by that point, as in Australia and many other European nations, including the UK,

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00:22:36.960 I just saw this before we started recording, so I wanted to touch on it

00:22:40.320 because I find it to be extremely disturbing.

00:22:45.940 Trump, on Truth Social, Truth Socialed This, or Truthed It Out,

00:22:52.120 or whatever the verb is that we're supposed to use,

00:22:54.960 this is what he posted.

00:22:56.640 Let's just say post.

00:22:57.320 He said,

00:22:59.680 Our great farmers and people in the hotel and leisure business

00:23:02.960 have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration

00:23:05.800 is taking very good long-time workers away from them,

00:23:09.380 with those jobs being almost impossible to replace.

00:23:11.960 In many cases, the criminals allowed into our country 1.00

00:23:14.340 by the very stupid Biden open borders policy are applying for those jobs. 1.00

00:23:18.260 This is not good. 1.00

00:23:19.480 We must protect our farmers, but get the criminals out of the USA.

00:23:23.420 Changes are coming.

00:23:25.540 Yes, I find this very disturbing.

00:23:27.020 Because this is not what we voted for.

00:23:32.920 This is not it.

00:23:36.840 Okay, because what he's talking about here is,

00:23:39.800 what he's indicating is a pullback, at least,

00:23:44.500 if not a full-scale, if not full-scale abandoning,

00:23:48.040 at least pulling back from immigration enforcement

00:23:51.200 because farmers have complained and people in the hotel and leisure business have complained

00:23:56.820 that they're losing their workers

00:23:59.380 and that they can't find Americans who are willing to do the job.

00:24:02.320 It's just that same old canard we've heard so many times.

00:24:04.820 And this we cannot tolerate.

00:24:10.600 I mean, this is the kind of thing, as conservatives,

00:24:13.060 if you're a Trump supporter, if you're a conservative,

00:24:14.700 if you care about national sovereignty, the continued existence of our nation,

00:24:18.740 you've got to push back against this.

00:24:20.120 We have to push back hard against this.

00:24:21.660 You know, that employers who knowingly rely on illegal immigrant labor,

00:24:30.800 that we should be catering to them,

00:24:33.020 that we should not enforce our borders and our immigration laws

00:24:36.700 and not try to restore our national sovereignty

00:24:39.960 for the sake of their cheap labor.

00:24:42.600 Absolutely not.

00:24:45.200 Okay, I've got a better idea.

00:24:46.200 If you have employers who are, again, knowingly relying on illegal immigrant labor,

00:24:53.360 instead of giving them what they want

00:24:56.260 because they're complaining that they can't find Americans willing to do the job,

00:24:59.240 instead of that, how about we put them in prison?

00:25:02.640 That's what should be happening.

00:25:05.580 That's actually the important next step in enforcing our borders,

00:25:09.860 enforcing immigration laws.

00:25:11.400 Yes, deportations, all of that.

00:25:13.340 But then, you've got to also, not even then,

00:25:16.040 at the same time, you have to find the employers

00:25:18.360 who are contributing to this problem

00:25:21.060 and driving it

00:25:22.880 by knowingly hiring these people

00:25:26.040 instead of hiring Americans.

00:25:27.980 You have to find them and punish them. 0.94

00:25:29.640 They should be in prison for that.

00:25:34.660 Backing off of immigration enforcement for their sake 0.99

00:25:37.320 is a no-go.

00:25:39.460 Absolutely not.

00:25:41.660 It's an outrageous suggestion.

00:25:44.320 And it's no different from what we've heard

00:25:47.220 from establishment Republicans.

00:25:48.420 It's no different from the establishment Republican talking point

00:25:50.620 for decades and decades.

00:25:52.020 It's exactly what put us in this position

00:25:53.540 in the first place.

00:25:55.500 And by the way,

00:25:56.100 I just don't,

00:25:56.920 I don't buy

00:25:57.760 this nonsense about,

00:26:00.260 oh, Americans won't do these jobs. 1.00

00:26:04.420 That's bull****. 0.98

00:26:05.460 Okay? 0.99

00:26:05.760 I'm sorry. 0.99

00:26:06.620 That's total bull****. 0.98

00:26:07.620 No. 0.99

00:26:08.960 There are plenty of,

00:26:09.860 what,

00:26:10.020 Americans won't work in the hotel industry? 0.99

00:26:12.560 Like the,

00:26:15.720 the Mexican illegal immigrant 0.97

00:26:17.540 that's cleaning out your hotel room. 0.99

00:26:19.840 That's it.

00:26:20.580 She's irreplaceable.

00:26:23.460 If she's deported,

00:26:24.740 well,

00:26:24.920 we can't find anyone who could do,

00:26:26.600 how can we possibly clean these hotel rooms?

00:26:30.280 But picking crops,

00:26:31.480 cleaning hotel rooms,

00:26:32.300 really?

00:26:32.720 Really?

00:26:33.220 There's no,

00:26:33.880 in a,

00:26:34.280 in a country of 300 million plus actual citizens,

00:26:36.900 you can't find anyone who's willing to do those jobs.

00:26:39.360 Really?

00:26:40.300 I don't buy that.

00:26:41.360 That's just not true.

00:26:43.200 You know,

00:26:43.420 you know what it is.

00:26:44.260 This is what it is.

00:26:46.220 Um,

00:26:47.460 there are plenty of Americans perfectly capable of doing those jobs.

00:26:50.600 Obviously plenty of Americans perfectly willing to do them,

00:26:53.820 but they're not going to be your slave labor.

00:26:57.260 That's the issue here.

00:26:58.340 You have to pay them a fair wage is what you have to do.

00:27:03.480 There are plenty of Americans able and willing to work on a farm or work in a

00:27:08.300 hotel.

00:27:10.040 They're just not going to do it for 50 cents an hour or whatever.

00:27:13.020 You're paying your army of illegals who can't speak English. 1.00

00:27:17.700 Yeah.

00:27:18.100 Those people you bring in and they're not legally here. 0.98

00:27:20.280 They're not on the books and they're not going to complain because if they do,

00:27:24.600 they get shipped back to the country where they don't want to go.

00:27:27.200 Uh,

00:27:27.360 and so,

00:27:27.840 yeah,

00:27:27.940 you can pay them whatever you want.

00:27:31.100 And of course,

00:27:31.700 that's why all of the,

00:27:32.900 all these,

00:27:33.320 these,

00:27:33.740 these great are great farmers are great people in the hotel business as Trump

00:27:38.540 calls them.

00:27:41.520 Well,

00:27:42.200 the quote unquote great farmers who are complaining about immigration

00:27:44.800 enforcement,

00:27:45.560 uh,

00:27:46.040 not so great because what they're complaining about is that they,

00:27:48.800 they're being deprived of their slave labor.

00:27:50.460 And so the response from the president should be okay,

00:27:54.600 too bad.

00:27:56.840 Oh,

00:27:57.300 Oh,

00:27:57.420 is that hard for you to,

00:27:58.280 to actually pay like a real wage to American citizens who live in this

00:28:01.900 country and are,

00:28:03.380 are,

00:28:03.600 are actual legal citizens?

00:28:06.260 Is that difficult?

00:28:07.200 Oh,

00:28:07.340 you'd rather,

00:28:07.700 you'd rather pay a one over there,

00:28:10.160 uh,

00:28:10.480 75 cents an hour.

00:28:11.520 Oh,

00:28:11.620 is that,

00:28:11.920 is that tough?

00:28:12.400 Okay.

00:28:12.620 Well,

00:28:12.740 how about,

00:28:13.080 uh,

00:28:13.520 do it anyway,

00:28:14.340 hire Americans or you'll be in prison. 0.98

00:28:15.980 How about that?

00:28:16.580 Well,

00:28:16.700 shut down your farm. 0.86

00:28:17.460 We'll put you in prison.

00:28:18.160 That's the other option.

00:28:21.560 Why is that not the negotiation here?

00:28:26.220 I just have,

00:28:26.960 I have no sympathy for it.

00:28:27.980 What's like,

00:28:28.340 how can anyone have any sympathy for it at this point?

00:28:33.200 Do we want to have a country or not?

00:28:36.740 Okay.

00:28:37.020 If we want a country,

00:28:37.660 the hotel business is just going to have to deal with it.

00:28:41.760 Oh,

00:28:42.160 what if some hotels shut down?

00:28:43.740 Well,

00:28:43.880 I guess they shut down then.

00:28:44.940 I guess that's what happens.

00:28:47.460 You know,

00:28:48.000 I guess if that's really,

00:28:49.520 I mean,

00:28:49.760 if it's true,

00:28:50.580 like you really can't,

00:28:51.680 you,

00:28:51.860 you've,

00:28:52.200 if you,

00:28:52.740 if you opened a hotel and the only way that you can possibly keep it open is with illegal immigrant slave labor. 1.00

00:29:01.460 Well,

00:29:01.860 then I guess your hotel shouldn't exist.

00:29:03.880 Okay.

00:29:04.360 I guess it just shouldn't exist anymore.

00:29:09.360 If you have a farm and the only way you can get your foot,

00:29:11.820 keep your farm open is with illegal immigrant labor. 0.98

00:29:14.860 Then I guess you shouldn't have a farm anymore.

00:29:17.460 I guess you're not a very good farmer.

00:29:18.920 Actually,

00:29:19.280 it turns out you can't figure out how to,

00:29:21.180 how to,

00:29:21.380 how to,

00:29:21.740 how to keep your farm going by hiring American citizens in this country. 0.99

00:29:29.460 So you want to be an American farmer and you don't want to hire Americans. 1.00

00:29:32.400 Well,

00:29:32.540 you're not a very good farmer then.

00:29:33.760 So your farm should just be shut down at that point.

00:29:35.680 I don't know what to tell you.

00:29:37.460 I got no sympathy for this whatsoever.

00:29:39.040 Um,

00:29:40.400 and,

00:29:40.820 uh,

00:29:40.940 this kind of thing,

00:29:41.720 we just can't,

00:29:44.080 you know,

00:29:44.820 I've,

00:29:45.060 I've,

00:29:45.240 there are people in the comments that are saying,

00:29:47.040 Oh no,

00:29:47.280 I don't think he really meant that.

00:29:48.300 I think what he's actually saying,

00:29:49.460 no,

00:29:49.700 no,

00:29:49.840 it's,

00:29:50.080 it's,

00:29:50.260 it's,

00:29:50.760 he said what he said.

00:29:51.940 Okay.

00:29:52.340 We can,

00:29:53.480 it's plain,

00:29:54.040 this is plain English.

00:29:54.940 We can read it.

00:29:55.880 It's very clear what's being now,

00:29:57.980 whether Trump will actually act on that and pull back from immigration enforcement for the sake of the farmers and the hotel business.

00:30:04.420 That remains to be seen,

00:30:05.840 but he said what he said.

00:30:08.960 And if we don't want him to pull back from immigration enforcement,

00:30:11.440 then we need to push back against this and push back hard and say,

00:30:15.100 uh,

00:30:15.280 no,

00:30:16.040 but you want to,

00:30:16.560 you want to totally destroy your legacy as president.

00:30:19.060 This is a good way to do it.

00:30:23.140 Uh,

00:30:23.580 we,

00:30:23.980 we,

00:30:24.280 this,

00:30:24.940 this,

00:30:25.260 you've got to not only,

00:30:27.680 okay.

00:30:27.980 Not only would it be under continuing to undermine American sovereignty and destroying our national

00:30:34.200 identity.

00:30:35.100 It's bad.

00:30:36.000 That's bad enough.

00:30:37.680 But also at this point,

00:30:38.940 if you don't follow through and start and deport these people,

00:30:42.920 if you cave to the farmers and the hotel business and the leisure business,

00:30:47.460 then on top of everything else,

00:30:49.680 you're also giving these rioters exactly what they want and you're letting them win and you're emboldening them.

00:30:57.060 Okay.

00:30:57.500 And then,

00:30:57.960 and then what happens?

00:30:58.480 It means we get more of it.

00:30:59.960 That means the next time they're upset about it,

00:31:01.760 what are they going to do?

00:31:02.260 They're going to go burn down some city blocks again,

00:31:04.480 and then they get what they want,

00:31:05.640 which is a pattern that we've seen over the years.

00:31:09.300 So,

00:31:09.660 uh,

00:31:10.160 this just cannot be,

00:31:11.240 this is not acceptable.

00:31:12.940 It's just not.

00:31:14.820 Um,

00:31:16.040 all right.

00:31:20.320 Let's see.

00:31:20.880 What else do we have here?

00:31:21.860 The,

00:31:22.160 uh,

00:31:23.060 the journalist,

00:31:25.980 since it was one of the subject of immigration,

00:31:28.120 I'll also hit this.

00:31:28.940 The journalist Colin rug has compiled,

00:31:32.160 uh,

00:31:33.700 a montage of Tik TOK influencers who have all,

00:31:37.140 all at the same time glommed onto the same talking point.

00:31:41.000 And they've all very suddenly at the same time become fond of claiming that entering the country illegally is just a civil violation like jaywalking.

00:31:50.040 And,

00:31:51.460 uh,

00:31:52.180 it's funny when they all just pick up on the exact same talking point at the exact same time.

00:31:56.400 But watch this.

00:31:58.040 Being in a country that you're in illegally is a civil offense, 0.97

00:32:01.840 not a criminal one.

00:32:03.240 You know what else is a civil offense?

00:32:05.600 Jaywalking.

00:32:06.520 And being undocumented is not a criminal offense.

00:32:08.940 It's a civil one.

00:32:09.740 And if you've ever jaywalked,

00:32:11.760 congratulations because you've also committed a civil offense.

00:32:15.200 Have you ever sped over the speed limit?

00:32:17.380 Have you ever drank or smoked underage?

00:32:19.740 Have you ever drank and then driven a car?

00:32:22.420 What about jaywalking?

00:32:23.760 Being undocumented in America is a civil offense. 0.67

00:32:28.480 It's not a criminal one.

00:32:30.620 It's the same caliber of crime as traffic offense.

00:32:34.000 Just a reminder in case anyone forgot being undocumented is a civil offense, 0.89

00:32:38.880 not a criminal one.

00:32:39.920 If you've so much as littered on public property,

00:32:42.280 I never want to hear,

00:32:43.780 oh,

00:32:43.880 but they broke a law as a justification for your hate.

00:32:47.500 Now this talking point,

00:32:48.860 it's all over X as well.

00:32:50.220 I've seen a million tweets making this claim,

00:32:52.460 maybe not a million,

00:32:53.700 like dozens.

00:32:54.600 So close enough.

00:32:56.420 But anyway,

00:32:57.260 a couple of things about this.

00:32:58.200 First of all,

00:32:59.680 it's not true.

00:33:01.040 Entering the country illegally is a criminal offense.

00:33:04.240 Okay.

00:33:05.460 Entering a second time illegally is not only a criminal offense.

00:33:09.020 Coming back after you've been deported once is not only a criminal offense,

00:33:11.840 but it's actually a felony.

00:33:15.600 But yes,

00:33:16.300 it is a criminal offense.

00:33:17.320 The first time is also a criminal offense.

00:33:19.300 It is absolutely a criminal offense.

00:33:22.320 And now the people who are making this claim may be relying on a few technicalities.

00:33:28.160 Well,

00:33:28.560 I should say they're relying, 0.99

00:33:30.540 these people that we just saw in the montage are relying on whoever gave them,

00:33:33.780 in the talking point.

00:33:35.300 They have no idea what's going on.

00:33:36.880 It's not like those girls in the montage are cleverly devising some way to present illegal entry as a civil offense. 0.57

00:33:43.740 They just have no clue what they're talking about.

00:33:45.860 They have the collective IQ of a spatula.

00:33:48.340 No offense to them.

00:33:49.280 But the talking point itself is based on some technicalities like the fact that as far as I understand it,

00:33:57.960 if you're in the country illegally because you overstayed a visa as opposed to sneaking in across the border,

00:34:04.360 then that is a civil offense.

00:34:07.720 And also,

00:34:10.200 even though,

00:34:11.140 and this is really the technicality that this all sort of hangs on,

00:34:14.380 is that even though illegal entry is a criminal offense,

00:34:17.760 it is usually treated like a civil offense.

00:34:21.240 Deportation is a civil penalty,

00:34:24.520 not a criminal one.

00:34:26.920 Again,

00:34:27.320 I'm not a lawyer,

00:34:27.900 but this is,

00:34:28.440 I think that's how it all breaks down.

00:34:29.980 But still,

00:34:30.460 the thrust of the point is incorrect.

00:34:32.020 Coming to the country illegally is a crime. 0.98

00:34:34.120 It is a criminal offense.

00:34:34.980 So we can rightly call illegal aliens criminal aliens because that's what they are. 1.00

00:34:40.920 It is not a violation on the level of jaywalking,

00:34:43.900 despite what you just heard.

00:34:46.040 Although,

00:34:46.500 side note about that,

00:34:47.180 it's always funny to me that people will use jaywalking as like the prime example of a silly or frivolous law.

00:34:54.440 Right? 0.97

00:34:54.720 When they're trying to explain why a law is dumb, 0.99

00:34:57.060 they'll say, 0.99

00:34:57.400 oh,

00:34:57.540 it's just like jaywalking.

00:34:59.180 Well,

00:34:59.640 actually,

00:35:00.000 there's a reason jaywalking is illegal.

00:35:01.920 It's like if you,

00:35:03.180 there's nothing frivolous about it.

00:35:04.360 If you drive through the city,

00:35:05.560 you'll see pedestrians just wandering out into the middle of a busy roadway,

00:35:09.040 almost causing accidents or causing accidents,

00:35:11.260 almost getting themselves killed or actually getting themselves killed.

00:35:13.680 So we should enforce the laws against jaywalking.

00:35:15.720 That's not a dumb law either.

00:35:18.040 But that's beside the point.

00:35:18.900 The point is that coming into the country illegally is not like jaywalking.

00:35:23.920 It's a,

00:35:24.180 it's far more serious.

00:35:26.200 And,

00:35:26.720 uh,

00:35:28.300 and even all of that is beside the point because here we're talking about

00:35:32.780 how,

00:35:34.780 you know,

00:35:35.840 illegal immigration is classified,

00:35:37.720 what kind of violation it is.

00:35:40.200 But all that really matters is that it is a violation,

00:35:43.200 whether a criminal or civil violation,

00:35:46.120 the key word is violation,

00:35:47.660 right?

00:35:49.320 The people who are here illegally, 1.00

00:35:50.680 whether illegal criminally or civilly are here illegally and they need to go. 0.89

00:35:57.100 I mean,

00:35:57.540 that's,

00:35:58.060 that's the key point.

00:35:59.960 It doesn't matter how it's characterized,

00:36:01.820 what label you put on it.

00:36:05.040 It doesn't,

00:36:05.800 I don't think it matters how they got here illegally.

00:36:09.360 Did they sneak across the border?

00:36:10.760 Did they overstay a visa?

00:36:12.240 Doesn't matter.

00:36:14.540 However,

00:36:15.000 they ended up here illegally.

00:36:16.580 They're here,

00:36:16.960 here illegally and they got to go.

00:36:18.360 And if they work on a farm or they work in a hotel,

00:36:23.300 uh,

00:36:24.600 and they do a really good job and they're really hard workers and they'll do

00:36:27.340 it for two 75 an hour,

00:36:28.780 they still got to go.

00:36:32.560 Uh,

00:36:33.120 okay.

00:36:33.660 Marjorie Taylor green just passed through committee,

00:36:36.280 a bill to ban so-called gender transitions for children on the federal

00:36:42.360 level.

00:36:43.340 Here is a representative green talking about it.

00:36:46.580 Hi everyone.

00:36:47.140 I have really great news.

00:36:48.360 My bill protect children's innocence act just passed through the judiciary

00:36:52.280 committee.

00:36:53.160 Big thank you to Jim Jordan.

00:36:54.680 Big thank you to Harriet Hageman.

00:36:56.360 They did a fantastic job.

00:36:58.300 This is a victory for children.

00:37:00.380 We have to protect their innocence.

00:37:02.420 We have to allow them to grow up.

00:37:04.480 They can choose who they want to be when they're adults,

00:37:06.820 but there should be no medical industry that mutilates their genitals,

00:37:11.280 gives them poisons and permanently changes their bodies.

00:37:15.860 Next thing we have to do is get it through rules committee.

00:37:18.040 And then get it to the house floor for a vote for final passage.

00:37:21.900 This is what we campaigned on.

00:37:23.960 President Trump wrote an executive order to criminalize sex changes on kids.

00:37:29.940 And this is the will of the American people.

00:37:32.480 Stay tuned for more.

00:37:34.340 Now, there were some in this committee who were very upset about this bill, as you expect.

00:37:41.000 Representative Jayapal, who's one of the more, on this topic, one of the more militant members of Congress.

00:37:50.880 Let's listen to her outburst.

00:37:53.120 What is barbaric is this legislation.

00:37:56.940 What is barbaric is targeting trans kids in this country who are not doing you any harm. 0.67

00:38:07.160 Show me a trans kid who's doing you harm. 1.00

00:38:10.080 And then tell me how many of you are parents that would do anything that you could to protect your kids

00:38:16.860 and to make sure that they didn't commit suicide, that they were actually able to engage in the world in a healthy way.

00:38:23.720 Tell me what you wouldn't do for your children. 0.99

00:38:26.040 Because when you introduce legislation like this, it is not only stupid legislation, it is cruel, it is mean, 1.00

00:38:35.740 and it interferes with your own conservative principles. 0.99

00:38:40.760 You really want to take away the ability to allow parents to make decisions about their own kids' medical situation with their doctor?

00:38:53.280 That's what Republicans want to do?

00:38:55.100 So, as always, the supporters of trans ideology are just congenitally incapable of being honest. 0.99

00:39:04.360 All they do is lie. That's their only move.

00:39:06.700 False framing, straw man, that's all they do.

00:39:09.960 And so we hear from Jayapal that this bill is an attack on trans kids.

00:39:13.660 When in fact, of course, the point of the bill is to protect those kids,

00:39:17.760 to protect so-called trans kids from the abuse being inflicted on them by people like Representative Jayapal.

00:39:26.640 Now, keep something in mind when you watch a clip like that,

00:39:30.840 which is that Representative Jayapal has a quote-unquote trans kid.

00:39:37.320 She's already shared that her, and I think we've talked about it on the show before, that her child is trans.

00:39:46.280 And I don't know if it's a boy or girl in reality, but she has a trans kid, who I believe is now an adult.

00:39:54.100 But even if I hadn't told you that, you would still know it, because you can tell.

00:40:02.360 At this point, any adult who passionately, emotionally defends the castration and mutilation of children

00:40:08.600 is doing it because they feel like they have to.

00:40:12.120 They have to because it's the only way, which isn't to excuse it at all, by the way.

00:40:17.020 It's just to explain that, trying to explain a level of emotional desperation that you saw. 0.87

00:40:23.540 Because in that clip there, Jayapal is a total fraud and a phony,

00:40:28.700 and one of the many Democrats in Congress who's very theatrical.

00:40:37.800 But when you look at that, you can tell there's real panic in her eyes.

00:40:41.340 It looks like she's about to start crying, and that's real.

00:40:45.160 Now, what she's saying is false.

00:40:47.120 What she's saying is a lie, but the emotions are real.

00:40:53.100 Because she has to defend the transing of kids, 0.99

00:40:57.180 because that's the only way that she can look at herself in the mirror or sleep at night.

00:41:04.020 These kinds of parents, they have to, because the other option is to admit

00:41:09.000 that they have personally facilitated or allowed or supported or pushed

00:41:13.060 this kind of horrible abuse on their own kids.

00:41:18.880 Right?

00:41:19.380 The other option is for them to go back to their kids and say,

00:41:22.360 hey, I got this wrong,

00:41:25.300 and now your life and your body are destroyed. 0.78

00:41:29.960 And it's my fault.

00:41:32.420 And I'm sorry.

00:41:33.460 And there's nothing I can ever do to make it up to you.

00:41:36.580 Your life has been irrevocably changed

00:41:41.420 in ways that cannot be reversed because of me.

00:41:46.300 That's what they would have to say to their kids, and they can't.

00:41:48.640 I mean, to say that would take a level of moral courage and integrity

00:41:53.640 that these people don't have.

00:41:58.660 They're not capable of moral courage or integrity.

00:42:01.320 If they were, they wouldn't have done this to their kids in the first place.

00:42:04.760 So that's why Jayapal is taking this so personally.

00:42:08.200 It's why she's practically in tears over it,

00:42:10.640 because she sees this whole discussion as a personal attack against her.

00:42:16.100 She sees it as an indictment of her as a mother.

00:42:24.260 And to that fear, I want to personally say to Representative Jayapal

00:42:29.280 that you're right.

00:42:31.840 It is an indictment of you personally. 0.99

00:42:35.280 You're a terrible mother. 1.00

00:42:36.920 You're a terrible mother and a terrible person. 1.00

00:42:41.540 And you have done unspeakably awful things to your own child. 1.00

00:42:49.080 Or at the very least, allowed those things to be done

00:42:51.640 without protecting and defending your child. 0.99

00:42:55.740 So yeah, you're a terrible person, a terrible mother. 0.80

00:43:01.260 And if you feel like that's kind of what we're saying, 0.99

00:43:03.860 well, yeah, that's what we're saying.

00:43:04.800 And we need to protect kids from people like her. 1.00

00:43:08.600 So this bill needs to be passed into law.

00:43:11.060 There's no excuse for it not to be.

00:43:16.460 It needs to make it, you know, it needs to get a full vote.

00:43:20.480 And it needs to, every single Republican should be voting in favor of this.

00:43:25.020 It's not only, obviously, the right thing to do,

00:43:29.860 but it's also, it will cost you nothing politically.

00:43:35.820 Five years ago, I mean, this should have happened five years ago.

00:43:39.180 They should have passed a ban on this five years ago.

00:43:40.980 They should have passed it.

00:43:41.640 The moment, like, the first time that a procedure like this was done to a kid,

00:43:47.940 that should have been when a federal ban was passed.

00:43:52.260 But it wasn't.

00:43:53.180 And even five years ago, to vote yes on a bill like this,

00:44:00.640 to ban the quote-unquote gender transitions of kids nationwide,

00:44:04.600 would have been, you know, there would have been some political risks involved.

00:44:10.220 Still should have done it, but there would have been some political risk.

00:44:15.020 Now there's no risk.

00:44:17.240 You've got the American public on your side.

00:44:20.220 Almost everybody's on your side.

00:44:22.100 And a lot of the people who aren't on your side are too embarrassed to even say anything about it at this point.

00:44:26.320 There aren't that many people who are willing to loudly speak up

00:44:30.320 in defense of the, you know, chemical castration and mutilation of kids at this point.

00:44:35.580 Except for the most hardcore, radical activists and people like Jayapal,

00:44:42.880 who are committed to this lie for life because of either what they've done to themselves or done to their kids.

00:44:50.080 But everybody else, this is a widely popular position,

00:44:56.440 and so there would be no excuse not to pass the bill.

00:44:58.460 All right, let's get to the comment section.

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00:46:08.960 Matt, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain Robert E. Lee.

00:46:11.580 I'd really like it if you would add a segment to your show, at least occasionally,

00:46:14.680 to explain other historical people and events, because so much about the past is misunderstood.

00:46:19.920 Don't tempt me.

00:46:20.980 Don't tempt me to add a lengthy, rambling history segment to the show, because I will.

00:46:25.980 And you're going to regret.

00:46:27.580 I will make you regret that.

00:46:29.360 Be careful what you wish for.

00:46:31.940 Matt, I'm one of the conservatives who opposes naming specifically military bases after Confederate generals.

00:46:36.940 It's not because of anything having to do with slavery, but because they participated in armed rebellion against the U.S.

00:46:41.880 and fought to kill hundreds of thousands of Union soldiers.

00:46:44.780 Robert E. Lee was a great man.

00:46:45.840 It took up a bad cause for noble reasons.

00:46:47.460 But I don't think the U.S. military should honor men who betrayed and fought against it.

00:46:54.160 Yeah, I just don't think that's an accurate way of framing it.

00:46:58.920 I don't think it's fair to say that the South rebelled in that sense or that they were traitors or whatever.

00:47:03.460 And you didn't use the word traitor, but it seems like you would agree with that characterization. 0.88

00:47:11.320 But I don't think that's true.

00:47:14.240 I don't think that's fair.

00:47:15.240 They were trying to secede.

00:47:17.960 They were not trying to overthrow the government.

00:47:22.280 And that's actually an important distinction.

00:47:25.120 They were not marching into Washington to stage a coup and take control of the government.

00:47:29.780 Now, if that's how this all started and if that's what they were doing, then, yeah, certainly it's a rebellion.

00:47:38.240 It's treason.

00:47:41.040 It's all of those things.

00:47:43.640 But that's not what they did.

00:47:45.020 In fact, they very specifically chose not to do that, not to go on the offensive until much later into the war.

00:47:53.660 I mean, after the Confederacy's victory at Bull Run, they maybe could have gone on the attack, right, even marched on Washington.

00:48:05.720 The Union was in disarray at the time, could have totally rewritten history, maybe, if they had decided to march on Washington in the immediate aftermath of that.

00:48:16.300 But they didn't do that.

00:48:17.540 And that's because the South was trying to leave.

00:48:21.180 They were trying to secede.

00:48:22.440 They believed that they had the moral and legal right to secede.

00:48:26.280 And that is because they believed that the states were independent entities which had entered into a union voluntarily.

00:48:37.600 And for them, not that long ago, right?

00:48:41.080 So for them, it was only a few decades ago that the states had entered, voluntarily entered into a union because they thought it would be mutually beneficial.

00:48:50.960 And their position was, well, we voluntarily entered into it, we can leave.

00:48:56.720 And I think that was a very reasonable position, especially back in 1861.

00:49:02.760 In fact, I think it's a reasonable position even now.

00:49:07.140 If a state wanted to secede from the union today, I would not support marching troops into the state to stop them from leaving.

00:49:16.120 Would you?

00:49:17.460 I mean, maybe you would.

00:49:18.240 The way people talk about the civil war, it seems like a lot of people would.

00:49:24.300 But if Texas decided they wanted to leave the union, let's say, I wouldn't want them to leave.

00:49:32.640 I would be one of the voices trying to convince them not to.

00:49:36.860 There are certain states that if they tried to leave, maybe I wouldn't plead with them quite so much.

00:49:41.880 But if Texas tried to leave, I wouldn't want them to leave.

00:49:44.120 But if they decided that's what they were going to do, I would not support marching troops into Dallas to kill people until they agree to stay.

00:49:56.440 Would anyone support that?

00:49:59.140 Apparently, a lot of people would.

00:50:00.420 But to me, that's crazy.

00:50:05.440 It would be a crazy thing to do.

00:50:07.880 But that's what happened during the civil war.

00:50:10.680 And that's the distinction.

00:50:12.060 This was secession.

00:50:13.380 They were seceding.

00:50:14.140 They were saying, OK, we're going to take our stuff and leave because this isn't working for us anymore.

00:50:23.900 And I just think that's a very different thing.

00:50:26.760 Let's see.

00:50:27.340 And also, the question of whether or not in the 1860s, 1850s, whether or not a state has the right to secede was, at the very least, and I'm framing this in the most moderate way possible.

00:50:44.380 But at the very least, in the mid and early 19th century, the question of whether or not a state had to secede was a live question.

00:50:53.600 It was a real question.

00:50:54.800 And now, today, you could say, well, that question's been settled.

00:51:00.220 You don't.

00:51:01.880 But if the question was, quote, unquote, settled, which I don't acknowledge that it was, but if it was settled, it was settled by the civil war.

00:51:08.700 It was settled by the federal government using force and saying, no, no, no. 0.93

00:51:13.400 If you try to leave, we're going to kill you. 1.00

00:51:14.960 We're going to bring in troops in, and we're going to kill you. 1.00

00:51:17.280 And if that's not enough, we're going to start burning down your homes and farms until you stay. 1.00

00:51:21.660 So if it's settled at all, it was settled by that.

00:51:28.300 But that just means that at the start of the conflict, it had not been settled yet.

00:51:32.900 So I think that's the way you have to look at it.

00:51:36.640 Well, Walsh, the reason why you can't pay your lemonade stand employees $3 an hour is because such an agreement is void as per public policy.

00:51:44.960 It's inhumane to pay a pauper's wage to someone in 2025, whether it's their career or not.

00:51:50.100 That's irrelevant.

00:51:51.200 Void as against public policy is one of the first things you learn in law school.

00:51:55.780 Ask Ben about it. 0.85

00:51:56.680 Well, I think that's ridiculous.

00:51:58.100 I mean, look, we just talked about Trump's, you know, the Trump tweet or Truth Social post about the farms and the hotel industry that they can't find Americans who will do this job. 0.93

00:52:11.500 And it's like, well, no, because they want slave labor. 0.60

00:52:13.060 You've got to pay people a fair wage.

00:52:14.600 So I believe that you need to pay people a fair wage.

00:52:19.480 I totally believe in that.

00:52:20.640 But the way to handle that is not by having this totally arbitrary concept of a minimum wage, especially not one imposed by the federal government.

00:52:34.700 That's not the way you handle it.

00:52:36.160 And like I said about the minimum wage, you know, this is we're talking about in most of these in many of these jobs, in many, many cases, these are kids.

00:52:45.140 These are, you know, kids in high school who are not supporting themselves.

00:52:51.000 They live at their parents' house.

00:52:53.380 And the main reason they're working is just for work experience and for some spending cash. 0.97

00:53:00.860 So to use a word like inhumane, I think, is ridiculous.

00:53:06.540 I don't agree that minimum wage should be $15 an hour, but working some of those fast food jobs are a lot more high pressure and stressful than you think, Matt, especially with all these entitled people walking around.

00:53:20.600 Well, I work those jobs, too.

00:53:21.840 And they're not high pressure jobs.

00:53:23.420 They're not.

00:53:24.380 Now, they can be tedious, frustrating, irritating.

00:53:27.040 Trust me, I wouldn't want to go back and work those jobs again.

00:53:29.380 No way in hell.

00:53:29.960 So, yes, they can be difficult in the way that any monotonous, tedious thing is difficult, difficult in the sense of being unpleasant, right?

00:53:38.200 They're unpleasant jobs.

00:53:40.540 They are unpleasant, but they're not high pressure.

00:53:43.140 No, because now when you climb up the ladder a bit, there are plenty of jobs you can have in the food industry that are high pressure for sure.

00:53:50.600 But an entry level hourly job in fast food is not a high pressure position.

00:53:55.940 A job is high pressure if your failure in your job would lead to serious negative results.

00:54:06.820 It's like walking a tightrope is high pressure because if you fall, you die.

00:54:10.800 It's a lot of pressure.

00:54:12.600 High pressure means that there's a lot riding on the successful completion of the task at hand.

00:54:17.220 And when you're an hourly minimum wage worker at a drive-thru, again, jobs that a lot of us did, when you're 17 years old working a job like that, it's not a high pressure job.

00:54:27.700 It's a job that almost anyone could do.

00:54:29.940 If you fail in the job, they can easily replace you.

00:54:33.960 And if you do fail in the job, the worst consequence is that the drive-thru slows down a little bit and the customers are a little bit annoyed.

00:54:40.380 But then, of course, customers are always annoyed in drive-thrus now because it's always slow anyway.

00:54:47.300 Finally, Matt, let me start by saying you are by far the best DW host.

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00:54:54.080 There are almost never five.

00:54:55.520 My best estimation is an average of about three, sometimes two, occasionally four, but five seems to be a bit of a stretch.

00:55:01.280 Just curious.

00:55:03.360 Well, you know, Five Headlines, it's more of a spiritual reality.

00:55:07.200 I think there are five headlines in a kind of a transcendent, mystical sense.

00:55:13.940 Like, there may not be five headlines in the literal sense, but I think in my heart and in all of our hearts, there are always five headlines.

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00:57:09.180 Now, let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:57:14.040 I have to confess that with everything going on lately, I haven't found the time to binge watch random congressional hearings on C-SPAN.

00:57:23.080 So as much as I wanted to tune in to Treasury Secretary Scott Besson's testimony before the House Ways and Means Committee the other day, I had to miss it.

00:57:31.040 Now, on the bright side, I figured that if something important did happen, I'd probably see a news report or a post on X summarizing the important parts.

00:57:37.720 And then I saw this tweet from a sitting Democrat member of Congress right after the hearing concluded.

00:57:43.180 And as I read this post, I realized that, you know, I must have missed quite a hearing indeed.

00:57:50.920 So here's what this member of Congress wrote.

00:57:52.980 Probably half of this statement is going to be bleeped.

00:57:55.180 So try your best to fill in the blanks.

00:57:57.140 But this is what it's like now when you're reading statements and comments from members of Congress that you have to bleep half of it.

00:58:03.680 So this is what the person said.

00:58:07.180 Excuse you, this twat, C-word, pum-pum, whatever you want to call it, represents an organ that gives life and is resilient.

00:58:14.720 So thanks for the compliment. 0.92

00:58:16.340 I can take one interruption, but Besson was out of control.

00:58:19.520 And I know I look good for my age, but baby, I'm postmenopausal and it still works.

00:58:25.540 Then there's a twig and berries emoji and a water drop emoji.

00:58:29.280 And that's the entire statement from this member of Congress.

00:58:31.940 Now, as I came across this piece of writing, I didn't have any context for it.

00:58:35.560 So I had to work my way backwards like, you know, like memento or something.

00:58:40.320 But even without the context, it was pretty safe to conclude that there is no universe in which a sitting member of Congress should ever post something like this for any reason.

00:58:48.520 I mean, even if you eliminate the emojis from the equation, it's still quite undignified and unprofessional.

00:58:53.900 She begins by rattling off a bunch of euphemisms for the female reproductive organ and then proceeds to alert the entire world that her reproductive system, quote, 0.95

00:59:01.620 still works and confirms that, quote, baby, I'm postmenopausal.

00:59:05.560 And again, this tweet somehow resulted from a hearing with the Treasury Secretary about the U.S. economy.

00:59:12.760 Now, upon further investigation, as in by looking at the top of the post, I determined that it was written by a woman named Stacey Plaskett,

00:59:19.920 who serves as the delegate from the Virgin Islands, because apparently we allow the Virgin Islands to have representation in Congress,

00:59:25.080 which is something that obviously needs to be rescinded immediately.

00:59:27.940 In any event, Plaskett was responding to a random guy who commented on the hearing with the Treasury Secretary.

00:59:34.580 Here's what he wrote, quote,

00:59:36.260 Do all these twats have their PMS cycle synced?

00:59:39.220 Someone needs to ship a case of Midol to the Capitol this afternoon.

00:59:43.500 Now, admittedly, it's not the most diplomatic tweet from this random account with 400 followers,

00:59:48.120 but somehow it's still more dignified than what the member of Congress wrote.

00:59:52.720 And then I watched the video that this random account was talking about,

00:59:55.600 and I came to realize that he had a point.

00:59:57.020 This is the relevant footage from the Besant hearing featuring this question from Stacey Plaskett.

01:00:05.780 Watch.

01:00:06.800 We have seen since January 20th that the stock market overall has gone down 1.3 percent and gas has gone up.

01:00:16.780 Ma'am, that's incorrect.

01:00:17.940 Excuse me.

01:00:18.680 Let me get something straight with you first here.

01:00:22.740 I've seen you interrupt everyone.

01:00:24.580 When you come to someone's house, you respect their rules.

01:00:29.220 And in this house, we don't interrupt individuals.

01:00:32.120 And you're not going to interrupt my time.

01:00:34.040 I'm going to give you time to respond.

01:00:36.320 You may want to jot down some notes about things that you don't agree with me on

01:00:40.760 so that you can respond to them at that time.

01:00:43.560 But while I'm speaking, as the person holding this time,

01:00:47.440 you will refrain from speaking, sir, until I am done.

01:00:50.920 I look forward to responding.

01:00:51.980 Until I am done.

01:00:52.660 And then I will give you time to speak, okay?

01:00:54.740 I look forward to the facts.

01:00:56.540 Thank you.

01:00:57.080 I'll look forward to your response, whether they're factual or incorrect either.

01:01:01.620 Now, eventually, a Republican member of Congress allowed Besant to respond to Stacey Plaskett.

01:01:07.220 And we'll play that moment in a second because it's pretty hilarious.

01:01:10.500 But first, it needs to be said that already Stacey Plaskett is giving the game away. 0.99

01:01:16.160 I mean, all you have to do when a witness interrupts you during a congressional hearing is say,

01:01:20.900 I reclaim my time.

01:01:22.620 And then the chair gives you back the time.

01:01:24.740 It's not a big deal.

01:01:26.100 As a devoted C-SPAN fan who would definitely buy C-SPAN Plus subscriptions if they ever were offered,

01:01:31.560 I can speak with some authority on this.

01:01:33.700 But Stacey Plaskett used this as an opportunity to grandstand because, of course, 1.00

01:01:37.760 otherwise nobody would pay attention to this hearing.

01:01:40.540 But it didn't work out for Stacey Plaskett. 1.00

01:01:42.400 Here's what happened a few minutes later.

01:01:44.880 Watch.

01:01:45.720 You didn't get a chance to respond to Ms. Plaskett.

01:01:48.080 So I'm going to give you a chance to respond, Secretary Besant.

01:01:51.720 Where did she go wrong in her statement?

01:01:53.760 Well, first of all, I would fire the staffer who did that chart because it stopped in February 2025

01:02:00.480 and prices are down substantially since then.

01:02:04.020 But that's an inconvenient truth.

01:02:06.240 Secondly, the S&P, if the Congresswoman would care to check Bloomberg,

01:02:13.420 the stock market, as judged by the S&P, which is the most widely held index by American 401ks,

01:02:20.280 is up on the air.

01:02:21.800 Up.

01:02:22.800 It is up much by much.

01:02:24.420 No, no, no.

01:02:24.920 Excuse me, ma'am.

01:02:25.420 It's my time.

01:02:26.620 And we don't interrupt.

01:02:28.660 Excuse me.

01:02:29.700 We don't interrupt is what I learned.

01:02:31.280 Since January 1st, it is my business for 40 years to know what the stock market does.

01:02:38.480 And it is up on the air.

01:02:40.240 So thank you for that clarification, Secretary.

01:02:42.640 I want to go.

01:02:43.560 Now, in the back of your mind, when you're listening to Besant dismantle her arguments, 0.98

01:02:48.160 you're wondering if she's going to be dumb and impulsive enough to interrupt him while he's speaking. 0.97

01:02:52.160 And then it happens. 0.98

01:02:53.340 She tries to cut him off without any sense of irony and without any regard for the lecture

01:02:57.600 she just gave three minutes earlier. 1.00

01:02:59.620 It was such a disaster that she promptly hopped on social media to start ranting about her 0.71

01:03:04.200 reproductive system. 0.70

01:03:05.660 That's how badly she was embarrassed.

01:03:08.420 The whole hearing was like this.

01:03:09.560 At one point, Congresswoman Linda Sanchez from California tried to pull the whole I'm speaking

01:03:15.160 routine as well and didn't go well for her either.

01:03:17.820 Watch.

01:03:18.820 In fact, we've already seen that prices are rising on many everyday goods.

01:03:23.460 No, Congresswoman.

01:03:25.060 Please don't interrupt me.

01:03:26.060 We had a 1.1 entry.

01:03:27.980 The time is mine.

01:03:28.720 Please don't interrupt me.

01:03:29.800 And I will ask you questions and I will grant you an opportunity to answer them.

01:03:33.540 But please don't interrupt me during my time.

01:03:36.420 With pleasure.

01:03:36.620 I know I'm a woman, but please try to limit yourself to answering my questions.

01:03:42.380 No, I'm sorry, but we get talked over all the time.

01:03:45.300 And I and I don't want that to happen at this here.

01:03:48.160 Yes, that was audible groaning that you heard in the background.

01:03:52.080 So in this case, Scott Besson didn't have to even say anything. 0.94

01:03:55.520 Democrats on this committee are so incompetent that they can't help but embarrass themselves.

01:03:59.780 Now, to be clear, this is not some random, unimportant committee. 0.59

01:04:03.120 It's the House Ways and Means Committee, which is widely considered to be the single most important

01:04:07.180 committee in the entire chamber.

01:04:08.440 They have jurisdiction over taxes, tariffs, Social Security, Medicare, everything that

01:04:13.580 raises revenue.

01:04:14.780 Each party is supposed to nominate their A-team to this committee.

01:04:18.440 But largely because of DEI, the Democrats' A-team is a constant source of embarrassment

01:04:22.680 for the entire country.

01:04:24.320 But it's not all DEI-related.

01:04:26.080 I mean, at its core, this is a very broken and incompetent party, as this hearing made abundantly

01:04:30.520 clear.

01:04:30.900 Behold, as California lawmaker Mike Thompson attempts to trap Besson with a gotcha question,

01:04:36.700 and then when Besson answers his question, Thompson nervously laughs and says that doesn't

01:04:41.020 count for reasons that he doesn't explain.

01:04:43.000 Watch.

01:04:44.000 Mr. Secretary, can you point to one independent study, one study performed by an expert PhD

01:04:51.100 economist who is not on the payroll of this administration that says that this legislation

01:04:58.000 will not add to our national debt?

01:05:00.900 Well, Congressman, if...

01:05:06.420 Yes or no?

01:05:07.080 Can you point to one?

01:05:08.080 If we want to look at the CBO...

01:05:10.460 No, I'm asking you, is there an independent expert that you can point to that says that

01:05:19.520 this bill will not add to our national debt?

01:05:22.840 Yes or no?

01:05:23.720 Yes.

01:05:24.600 There is?

01:05:25.260 Yes.

01:05:25.800 What are they?

01:05:26.860 Art Laffer.

01:05:27.940 Pardon me?

01:05:28.840 Art Laffer.

01:05:29.780 Art Laffer?

01:05:30.900 Great.

01:05:33.280 That, uh, I don't think that one counts.

01:05:36.920 That's pretty embarrassing, but to be fair, at least Thompson didn't start tweeting about

01:05:39.800 his genitals after this, so that's a point in his favor. 0.98

01:05:43.220 But other than that, it's yet another instance of Democrats proving that they are simply incapable 0.97

01:05:47.660 of governing.

01:05:49.120 And if you go back a few weeks, you'll find plenty more examples.

01:05:52.840 Here's one of them.

01:05:53.460 This is Stacey Plaskett.

01:05:54.580 One more time.

01:05:55.100 And as you watch this, keep in mind that the official account of the Democratic Party

01:05:59.460 posted this footage online because I guess they thought it made them look good.

01:06:04.000 Watch.

01:06:05.000 But if they're really interested in being fiscally responsible, then don't give such big cuts

01:06:10.540 to the rich.

01:06:11.820 Actually try and balance a budget.

01:06:14.440 Actually try and bring down the deficit. 0.89

01:06:16.560 If you want to take away all of those things from the neediest, take away some sh** from 0.82

01:06:22.280 the rich as well. 0.80

01:06:23.580 In case you couldn't make it out or it was censored, she's saying that we need to take 0.99

01:06:27.600 some crap or some form of excrement away from the wealthy. 0.98

01:06:31.420 Again, it's not the most articulate word choice from someone who sits on the House committee 0.99

01:06:34.880 that has jurisdiction over virtually all important economic matters in the country.

01:06:38.080 Is this how she approaches extremely complicated legislation on taxation and Medicare? 0.98

01:06:43.360 How well does she understand the excrement that's in those bills? 0.59

01:06:47.180 Well, we all know the answer to that question. 0.89

01:06:48.820 Stacey Plaskett doesn't have any idea what she's doing. 1.00

01:06:50.940 She probably can't even read the legislation that she votes on. 0.96

01:06:54.140 She's not a serious person, certainly not a serious representative or delegate or whatever.

01:06:59.200 Instead, she's a shining example of what I've come to refer to as the waffle houseification 1.00

01:07:04.360 of American society.

01:07:05.380 She embodies some of the same benefits of multiculturalism that we talked about in the open. 0.99

01:07:10.560 She's unintelligent, crass, completely useless, no shame or self-awareness. 1.00

01:07:15.880 And the Democrats who elevated her to this position of power have no regard for the future 0.99

01:07:20.360 of this country.

01:07:21.560 And that's why the more you watch congressional hearings, the more pessimistic you unfortunately

01:07:25.820 become about where we're headed as a nation.

01:07:28.180 And it's also why Stacey Plaskett, along with every other legislator who contributes to the 0.98

01:07:32.380 waffle houseification of American society, is today canceled.

01:07:37.400 That'll do it for the show today and this week.

01:07:39.180 Talk to you on Monday.

01:07:40.180 Have a great weekend.

01:07:40.740 And Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - June 12, 2025

Ep. 1613 - The Immigrant Riots Prove Again Why Diversity Is Not Our Strength

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