The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1617 - The Trans Agenda Was Just Dealt A Fatal Blow

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, we will break down the Supreme Court's historic decision, which puts a nail in the coffin of the trans agenda, and I'll explain why. Also, Ted Cruz and Tucker Carlson had a very heated debate over Iran. A lot of people seem upset and scandalized by the conversation. I thought it was fantastic and highly entertaining. And a feminist comedian admits that she became more conservative when she had a kid, many such cases. Why is that exactly? And a recent report proves what is now undeniable, AI has killed whatever was left of the education system. It is over.

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00:01:50.680 There are two accurate ways to look at yesterday's Supreme Court decision upholding Tennessee's ban on so-called gender-affirming procedures for minors.

00:01:59.640 The first way is to see the ruling as a historic victory that protects millions of children all over the country.

00:02:05.240 It's the culmination of several years of effort by lawmakers, conservative legal groups, and everyday citizens, including many of you who are listening to this show right now.

00:02:14.020 When I published my investigation into Vanderbilt's medical center just under three years ago, exposing their depraved practice of mutilating children,

00:02:22.880 we received an enormous amount of backlash from left-wing activists and many corporate media outlets.

00:02:28.140 They called us bigots because we opposed the sterilization and castration of children.

00:02:32.800 They harassed us, threatened to kill us, but it didn't work.

00:02:36.720 We urged Tennessee lawmakers to pass a law outlawing this barbarism.

00:02:40.300 They did, and yesterday that law was upheld.

00:02:44.820 And as a result of this decision, all 27 states that have similar bans will be able to keep those bans in place.

00:02:51.200 We won, and we should celebrate that.

00:02:53.820 That's the first way to look at this ruling.

00:02:55.780 The other way of looking at this decision, which is also a correct way of seeing it,

00:02:59.860 is to see it as a crushing defeat for trans activists and for gender ideology as a whole.

00:03:06.360 It was also an unforced error on their part.

00:03:08.880 Because the ACLU did not have to support this lawsuit and force it through to the Supreme Court.

00:03:15.240 They didn't have to put a woman pretending to be a man named Chase Strangio in front of the highest court in the land

00:03:21.500 to humiliate herself and her entire organization in the name of diversity and trans representation.

00:03:27.580 They didn't have to insist on the obvious absurdity that children have a constitutional right to their own castration.

00:03:33.700 They could have simply allowed states like Tennessee to ban the chemical and physical castration of minors

00:03:38.880 without insisting on a legal fight.

00:03:41.680 For once in their lives, these activists could have adopted a relatively moderate position by their standards.

00:03:48.000 But because they chose to go after the Tennessee ban with the same level of derangement that they approach everything else,

00:03:53.900 now everyone can see, as outlined in a lengthy opinion that's now binding legal precedent in every court in the country,

00:04:01.420 just how intentionally bankrupt and fraudulent their whole movement truly is. 0.66

00:04:07.780 I mean, the best arguments that the left-wing justices could muster were clearly nonsense.

00:04:14.280 They were destroyed by the majority opinion, as we'll discuss in a moment.

00:04:18.540 And therefore, by bringing this case, they've opened the door to a much more extensive nationwide ban on child butchery.

00:04:25.900 And that's exactly what needs to happen next.

00:04:28.460 Already, you could tell that the gender cult has lost a lot of the mainstream support that it needs to survive.

00:04:34.380 If you look at some of the coverage of this decision across the corporate press,

00:04:38.520 you won't find anyone defending the idea, or very few people defending the idea, 0.93

00:04:42.880 that children should be castrated or mutilated.

00:04:45.280 Instead, you'll find a lot of segments like this one. 0.94

00:04:48.540 The best they can do here is tell viewers that if they want to get some gender-affirming care, quote-unquote,

00:04:55.740 they'll need to head to the coast to get it. Watch.

00:04:58.180 Obviously, this is one of the most controversial and closely watched cases of the term.

00:05:03.960 It's written today by the chief justice.

00:05:06.140 It's a 6-3 ruling.

00:05:08.120 The court is saying that children who identify as transgender don't have a constitutional right

00:05:14.560 to get puberty blockers or hormones to change their biological sex.

00:05:19.600 And then it's saying that states have this interest in regulating medicine.

00:05:23.680 They are entitled to make these decisions, and especially, whereas the court put it here in this decision,

00:05:28.800 they're novel drugs with potentially life-altering consequences.

00:05:32.440 Those laws will be upheld.

00:05:33.740 States will be free to ban this kind of medical treatment for children,

00:05:38.280 so that if you're taking those kind of medications, if you're a parent and you want your children to be able to,

00:05:43.240 you're going to have to go to states that do allow it.

00:05:45.340 And those—we've got a map of it.

00:05:46.780 You can see those are kind of on the coast that are still going to be allowing.

00:05:51.320 It's just up to the states.

00:05:52.220 All the coverage like this, even from left-wing outlets like MSNBC or CNN,

00:05:57.520 has the same kind of comments below them.

00:05:59.740 In every case, virtually every comment supports a total ban on so-called gender-affirming care.

00:06:06.000 And even the news anchors, as you can tell, aren't really pushing the trans argument anymore.

00:06:10.180 There's not a whole lot of energy left in this movement on their side of it.

00:06:15.060 To the extent that any leftists are upset about this ruling, they're clearly unhinged.

00:06:19.660 They discredit themselves.

00:06:20.860 Here, for example, is a post from a man using the name Alejandra Caraballo.

00:06:25.480 Quote,

00:06:25.880 Now, that's all in response to the fact that we're not going to be castrating kids.

00:06:47.860 If we're not going to castrate kids, let this whole country burn to the ground, is what Alejandra Caraballo says.

00:06:56.480 So not exactly the most persuasive line of reasoning, especially since the Tennessee law was indeed the result of democracy.

00:07:02.840 The voters elected representatives, and those representatives decided, after seeing all the evidence, and after hearing the outcry from the people, that child mutilation is not a good thing.

00:07:13.940 And they banned it.

00:07:15.760 But somehow, in the mind of Alejandra Caraballo, that's a sign that democracy doesn't exist, and America should be destroyed.

00:07:23.140 And by the way, for what it's worth, which admittedly isn't much these days, Alejandra Caraballo teaches at Harvard Law School. 0.80

00:07:32.420 According to his LinkedIn, he's an instructor in the Cyber Law Clinic.

00:07:36.300 Once again, no matter how much contempt everyone has for institutions like Harvard, they somehow find a way to degrade the reputation even further.

00:07:43.260 The president who plagiarized everything she wrote was actually the best they have to offer, apparently.

00:07:49.400 There were other demented reactions along these lines.

00:07:51.740 Scroll through blue sky, as very, very few people ever do.

00:07:56.340 But if you do, you'll find a bunch of really deranged reactions.

00:08:00.040 Here's one example.

00:08:01.460 There's a lot of people claiming that the Supreme Court is evil, that we have to keep fighting, and so on.

00:08:07.180 And then there's this guy saying, quote, about time we assassinate the Tennessee lawmakers.

00:08:11.700 So, you know, not very subtle, and these people are not having the best Pride Month, you might say.

00:08:19.760 They know that their whole movement has been exposed.

00:08:22.420 They know they have no credibility in the eyes of the public.

00:08:24.860 They know that 90% of the public opposes this insanity.

00:08:28.160 So in response, they're doing what insane people do.

00:08:31.080 They're lashing out and embracing domestic terrorism.

00:08:35.300 Even at the Supreme Court, the left-wing justices couldn't articulate a coherent justification

00:08:39.740 for striking down Tennessee's ban.

00:08:42.320 They really tried their best to contort facts and logic to fit their preferred outcome, as they always do.

00:08:47.740 But in this case, they did an especially poor job of it.

00:08:52.180 There were two main arguments that the liberal justices used.

00:08:54.980 First, they claimed that Tennessee's ban amounted to unconstitutional discrimination on the basis of sex.

00:09:01.820 Here's the reasoning from Sonia Sotomayor, the wise Latina who openly admits she was a DEI hire.

00:09:08.060 Quote,

00:09:08.740 After puberty begins, doctors may prescribe these same medicines to adolescents whose physical appearances does not align

00:09:14.020 with what one might expect from their sex identified at birth.

00:09:17.800 An adolescent female, for example, might receive testosterone suppressors and hormonal birth control

00:09:21.880 to reduce the growth of unwanted hair on her face or body, sometimes called male pattern hair growth.

00:09:28.160 Physicians prescribe these same medications to transgender adolescents.

00:09:31.200 What does that mean in practice?

00:09:32.920 Simply that sex determines access to the covered medication.

00:09:36.300 Close quote.

00:09:37.960 Now, to restate the logic, she's saying that female children sometimes receive hormones and testosterone suppressors 0.90

00:09:46.820 if they're suffering from a rare condition, a medical condition, a diagnosable physical medical condition

00:09:52.060 that causes male pattern hair growth.

00:09:54.140 But under Tennessee's law, male children can't receive hormones and testosterone suppressors

00:10:00.420 if they say they're transgender.

00:10:02.100 And therefore, Sonia Sotomayor concludes that the male child is being discriminated against

00:10:07.460 on the basis of his sex. 0.99

00:10:10.140 It's hard to even read that out loud without realizing it's maybe the dumbest thing ever written 0.99

00:10:15.780 by a Supreme Court justice in the history of this country. 0.98

00:10:18.560 I mean, really, it really probably is.

00:10:21.720 It actually manages to refute itself.

00:10:24.880 No, in that analogy, the male child isn't being discriminated against because of his sex.

00:10:29.420 He's being told that he can't have the medication for the purpose of changing his gender

00:10:34.100 because it's impossible to change his gender.

00:10:37.300 It's not about his sex.

00:10:38.600 It's about the reason for the medication.

00:10:41.240 It's about the purpose of the medication.

00:10:43.720 Meanwhile, the girl is allowed to have the medication because she's trying to treat a

00:10:48.480 completely separate issue, a verifiable physical medical condition, which is male pattern hair

00:10:55.120 growth.

00:10:56.120 In other words, the law isn't treating boys and girls differently.

00:10:59.420 It's stating that whether you are a boy or a girl, if you're under the age of 18, you

00:11:03.520 cannot be given hormones and puberty blockers for the purpose of changing your gender.

00:11:09.760 And it applies equally to both sexes.

00:11:12.280 Sotomayor is arguing that, basically, she's arguing that if you prescribe medicine for

00:11:20.960 one particular purpose, you must then prescribe it for any other purpose at all.

00:11:28.200 So if you give medicine, if someone has a medical condition and they say, I have this medical

00:11:33.620 condition, the doctor says, here's medicine for it.

00:11:36.160 Then the next person who comes into the office and says, oh, I want that same medicine.

00:11:39.860 You have to give it to them, no matter the reason, because otherwise it's discrimination.

00:11:44.600 That's what she's saying.

00:11:46.440 But of course, every medication on the planet is prescribed only for a certain set of very

00:11:53.640 limited circumstances and not for any other circumstance. 0.99

00:11:57.680 So the whole argument is asinine. 0.75

00:12:00.480 Along the same line, Sotomayor tried to compare Tennessee's ban to Virginia's old ban on interracial 0.97

00:12:05.480 marriage.

00:12:06.340 But again, the comparison does not work.

00:12:08.560 Under Virginia's law, your race would would directly determine who you could marry. 1.00

00:12:13.900 If you were black, you couldn't marry a white person.

00:12:16.300 If you somehow became white, then you could get married to a white person. 0.53

00:12:20.960 But Tennessee's law does not work that way.

00:12:23.200 Tennessee's law doesn't care if you're a boy or a girl.

00:12:25.600 Well, whatever your sex happens to be under Tennessee law, you are barred from accessing

00:12:30.500 so-called gender-affirming care as long as you're under the age of 18.

00:12:35.620 For whatever reason, the combined intellect of the three female liberal judges on the Supreme 1.00

00:12:40.300 Court simply could not grasp this concept.

00:12:42.920 They were really, really committed to their analogies, even though all the analogies had

00:12:47.060 the exact same problem.

00:12:48.140 It's a good reminder why, in general, your argument should never rely totally on analogies.

00:12:52.680 I mean, it's easy to draw a comparison to some terrible thing and then say, this situation

00:12:56.860 is just like that, but it's not easy to ensure that the comparison actually makes sense.

00:13:02.380 And the only reason to become completely dependent on analogies is if you know that your underlying

00:13:06.200 argument doesn't make any sense.

00:13:09.060 And that's obviously the case here.

00:13:10.780 They desperately don't want to talk about the reality of so-called gender-affirming care,

00:13:15.580 so they resort to these very strained comparisons.

00:13:18.340 At one point, Sotomayor even cited a bunch of Yale philosophers, quote-unquote, who compared

00:13:24.180 the Tennessee law to an imaginary rule that prohibited minors from attending certain religious

00:13:28.260 services.

00:13:29.660 I mean, this is like all over the place.

00:13:31.880 I'm going to read the part of Sotomayor's opinion where she tries to explain the point

00:13:36.060 of these analogies to be as fair as possible.

00:13:38.640 Here's what she writes.

00:13:40.200 Let's hear her out.

00:13:42.360 Quote,

00:13:42.600 In other words, she's saying that sex is part of the definition of whether someone's

00:14:01.440 seeking so-called gender-affirming care, and that's true depending on what definition the

00:14:06.540 left feels like using on any given day, but it doesn't mean that the law therefore discriminates

00:14:10.980 on the basis of sex.

00:14:11.900 There are plenty of laws that relate to the idea of sex in some way, which are not discriminatory

00:14:17.120 on the basis of sex.

00:14:18.320 The majority opinion gives the example of a California insurance program that decided

00:14:22.220 not to cover certain disabilities resulting from pregnancy, and that was a decision that

00:14:26.260 only affected women because only women can get pregnant, but that doesn't mean the insurance

00:14:30.020 program was discriminating against women. 1.00

00:14:32.660 They didn't put this in place because they were trying to target women. 0.99

00:14:38.800 They had independent reasons to drop the coverage, and therefore the decision was not discriminatory.

00:14:44.780 To be clear, I'm only going through all this in so much detail to highlight how utterly

00:14:49.760 terrible the left's best arguments are.

00:14:51.920 Even using their own frameworks where sex-based discrimination is the worst thing imaginable

00:14:57.080 and it's terrible to discriminate on the basis of transgender status, whatever that is, their

00:15:01.940 argument still falls apart on their own terms.

00:15:05.480 Once you get past this whole constitutional discussion on whether Tennessee's law discriminates

00:15:08.820 on the basis of sex, their position gets even worse.

00:15:10.940 And that's because even if this law discriminates on the basis of sex or transgender status,

00:15:15.000 you have to ask, so what?

00:15:17.180 Sometimes you're allowed to discriminate against certain groups of people if the point is to

00:15:20.500 protect the basic functioning of society.

00:15:22.920 Why do you think many gay men can't donate blood?

00:15:26.660 Why do you think children can't operate heavy machinery? 0.75

00:15:29.560 Discrimination based on sex doesn't make a law illegal.

00:15:32.500 It just makes it less likely that courts will defer the judgment to the judgment of legislatures.

00:15:37.640 And there were concurring opinions by Alito, Amy Coney Barrett, and Clarence Thomas that

00:15:42.800 get at this point.

00:15:44.260 You know, we all understand this concept intuitively.

00:15:47.020 Sometimes you have to tell a certain group of people that they don't get to have everything

00:15:50.340 they demand simply because they claim to belong to a protected status.

00:15:54.380 That's especially true for so-called trans people who, as Amy Coney Barrett pointed out,

00:15:59.040 are a nonsense category that's constantly changing. 0.65

00:16:02.740 Somebody can be trans one day and not trans the next.

00:16:05.580 And therefore, Barrett wrote, the whole idea of transgender status as a protected characteristic

00:16:10.040 is incoherent.

00:16:12.240 It's not an immutable characteristic by trans activists' own claims.

00:16:16.840 By their own testimony, it is not an immutable characteristic.

00:16:19.700 It's a characteristic that can change by the second, which means that, again, the argument

00:16:24.300 totally falls apart.

00:16:26.720 Now, the majority opinion didn't go this far.

00:16:28.800 They didn't say one way or another whether trans status could be protected, but they should 0.99

00:16:34.740 have.

00:16:35.820 Part of the problem here is that the Supreme Court reached a disastrous decision in the

00:16:39.720 so-called Bostock case five years ago, where they held that it's illegal under Title VII

00:16:44.500 of the Civil Rights Act to fire somebody because of their so-called gender identity, which is 0.92

00:16:48.660 a meaningless concept.

00:16:50.440 So the court's so-called conservatives, including Roberts and Gorsuch, have already given up some

00:16:56.020 ground here.

00:16:56.780 And now they're having to find a way to work around their own prior rulings.

00:17:00.240 And even in this case, they're still acting like trans children is a real category, which

00:17:04.840 it isn't.

00:17:06.020 For his part, Clarence Thomas had no problem saying yesterday that the Bostock decision

00:17:09.340 was a disaster and that Title VII of the Civil Rights Act should never be allowed to overrule

00:17:13.380 the Constitution.

00:17:14.820 And the Constitution does not protect invented characteristics like gender identity.

00:17:19.460 Thomas's concurrence is worth reading its entirety, but here's probably the most important

00:17:23.560 paragraph.

00:17:24.440 This is the part where he establishes that whatever standard of review you use in court and whether

00:17:28.980 or not you conclude that sex discrimination was involved.

00:17:31.680 The fact remains that mutilating children is wrong and that the science behind it is fake.

00:17:39.200 And that's the most important issue.

00:17:41.680 Quote, setting aside whether sex transition treatments for children are effective, states

00:17:45.640 may legitimately question whether they are ethical.

00:17:48.260 Deference to legislatures, not experts, is particularly critical here.

00:17:51.820 Many prominent medical professionals have declared a consensus around the efficacy of treating

00:17:55.360 children as gender dysphoria with puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, and surgical interventions.

00:17:58.980 Despite mounting evidence to the contrary, they've dismissed grave problems undercutting the

00:18:03.220 assumption that young children can consent to irreversible treatments that may deprive

00:18:06.580 them of their ability to eventually produce children of their own.

00:18:09.700 They have built their own medical determinations on conceitedly weak evidence, and they have

00:18:15.420 surreptitiously compromised their medical recommendations to achieve political ends.

00:18:19.500 States are never required to substitute expert opinion for their legislative judgment, and when the

00:18:24.340 experts appear to have compromised their credibility, it makes good sense to chart a different

00:18:28.480 course.

00:18:30.480 Now, Thomas also devoted large portions of his opinion to exposing the fraudsters at WPATH,

00:18:35.380 whose members have secretly admitted that children can't give informed consent to life-altering

00:18:39.960 procedures like this.

00:18:41.240 They've also changed their alleged medical guidance on orders from the Biden administration.

00:18:45.760 This is an organization that virtually all major medical organizations and hospitals cite as

00:18:49.760 the gold standard for transgender quote-unquote health care, even though they're essentially 0.96

00:18:55.060 cultists.

00:18:56.360 Quoting from Thomas' concurrence, unsealed documents reveal that a senior official in the Biden administration

00:19:00.660 pressed WPATH to remove age limits for adolescent surgeries for guidelines for care of transgender

00:19:05.720 minors on the theory that specific listings of ages under 18 will result in devastating legislation

00:19:11.000 for trans care.

00:19:12.680 Despite some internal agreement, WPATH acceded.

00:19:16.140 The result of the majority opinions documents how many other, rather the rest of the majority

00:19:23.620 opinion documents how many other countries from Finland to Sweden and the UK have determined

00:19:28.880 that castrating children is wrong.

00:19:31.620 There's no scientific consensus, in other words, and that's a very big deal for two reasons.

00:19:37.220 First of all, the consensus of the medical community is a key factor in lawsuits for malpractice.

00:19:42.540 If doctors aren't following the consensus, they become liable for, say, ruining the life

00:19:47.520 of a child by pumping his body full of unnatural hormones.

00:19:50.580 And secondly, insurance providers rely on the standard of care in determining what procedures

00:19:54.940 to cover.

00:19:56.260 And now that the highest court in the country has stated quite definitively that mutilating

00:20:00.000 children does not reflect any standard of care, these insurance companies have good

00:20:04.040 reason to stop funding these procedures.

00:20:06.560 At the same time, we shouldn't have to wait for malpractice lawsuits or for insurance companies

00:20:11.340 to discover the concept of ethics.

00:20:13.500 There's a bill right now introduced by Marjorie Taylor Greene to ban child castration and mutilation

00:20:18.140 at the national level.

00:20:19.880 Republicans, last I checked, control all three branches of government.

00:20:25.140 There is no reason why this legislation shouldn't be passed immediately.

00:20:29.060 And if Democrats threaten the filibuster or to shut down the country, you know, in order

00:20:34.820 to, in order to keep castrating kids, let them do it. 1.00

00:20:38.100 Let them go on national television and explain why doctors should be allowed to carve up the

00:20:41.920 bodies of young children.

00:20:43.080 Let them explain why protecting children from castration is the same thing as banning interracial 0.99

00:20:47.280 marriage. 0.99

00:20:48.600 Let them get up there and make the case for chopping the breasts off of 15 year old girls. 1.00

00:20:52.080 Let them do it. 1.00

00:20:52.860 Have Cory Booker cry and bang his podium and talk about how gay he is, all in service of 1.00

00:20:58.280 discredited procedures that the overwhelming majority of Americans find repulsive and immoral. 0.97

00:21:04.160 It would mark the end of the Democrat Party if they did that.

00:21:07.680 And for that reason alone, now that the gender cult is thoroughly embarrassed and disgraced 1.00

00:21:11.380 during a month that they used to celebrate, Republicans must pass this legislation immediately.

00:21:16.800 And if it seems like a long shot, consider this three years ago, no one thought that, you

00:21:22.020 know, the Twitter thread that I posted would, would lead to a Supreme court case that would

00:21:26.100 decimate the child mutilation industry.

00:21:28.060 No one thought that we could shut down extremely well-funded gender clinics at Vanderbilt and all 1.00

00:21:32.240 over the country.

00:21:33.740 You know, I had my doubts also, if I'm being honest, everybody did, but if we could do that,

00:21:39.080 then passing a law while we control both houses of Congress and the white house should be pretty 0.69

00:21:46.240 easy.

00:21:47.540 This is the time for a nationwide ban on the child mutilation industry.

00:21:51.760 Now the Supreme court has dealt these cultists, the biggest setback they've ever experienced.

00:21:56.160 We have the opportunity to finish this and all that's necessary is for elected Republicans

00:22:00.560 to do what we did three years ago, which is to put aside any concerns that you might have

00:22:05.000 about what other people might think about you and how they're inevitably going to attack

00:22:09.180 and harass you in, uh, in ways that well-adjusted people would never conceive of.

00:22:13.800 Doesn't matter.

00:22:16.160 Do what's right and necessary after so many years of this unfettered insanity and barbarism

00:22:20.700 and shut down the gender mutilation industry for good. 0.78

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00:23:38.300 Social media has been on fire ablaze with this debate between Senator Cruz and Tucker Carlson.

00:23:47.840 And maybe you've seen the clips, maybe you watched the whole thing.

00:23:50.800 I watched, I recommend watching the whole thing.

00:23:52.460 I watched the whole thing.

00:23:53.200 It's a, it's a, uh, a heated exchange on Tucker's show.

00:23:56.860 Sometimes very heated.

00:23:57.820 It goes on for like two hours.

00:24:00.060 And like I said, I watched the whole thing personally.

00:24:02.000 I found it to be really fascinating and a great conversation.

00:24:05.820 I enjoyed it.

00:24:07.400 You know, I, that's not allowed.

00:24:10.060 I've found out it's not allowed.

00:24:12.220 Apparently, uh, the conversation online has made it clear that the only acceptable thing

00:24:17.840 is to choose a side between Cruz and Tucker and declare the other guy, the one you don't 0.99

00:24:22.400 choose is total scum as the only, the only acceptable thing is to watch this. 1.00

00:24:26.220 And one of these guys has to be a villain who you hate forever and you want him to die. 1.00

00:24:30.700 And the other one is a hero.

00:24:32.480 Like that's the only, the only acceptable way to, to watch things like this.

00:24:37.000 Uh, and that's what I'm being told anyway.

00:24:39.980 In fact, I, I, I tweeted the sentiment about how I thought it was an interesting conversation.

00:24:43.280 Uh, I enjoyed the debate and the comments are full.

00:24:47.620 I mean, you can go, if you think I'm exaggerating, just go, you can go to my X account and see

00:24:51.480 the comments are full of people on both sides of the debate, yelling at me for not condemning

00:24:58.220 one or the other guy.

00:25:00.700 Both sides are mad that I enjoyed the debate and thought it was a good conversation.

00:25:05.160 Uh, you're not supposed to enjoy it or appreciate the conversation.

00:25:08.680 You're supposed to come away from it, hating either Tucker or Cruz.

00:25:11.340 And, and, you know, that's the way it goes now, but, um, I don't hate either of them.

00:25:15.440 I like both of them.

00:25:16.500 I think they're both good men.

00:25:17.420 I think they're both really intelligent and they're both sincere.

00:25:19.860 That's what I think.

00:25:21.760 Sorry.

00:25:22.220 That's what I think.

00:25:23.040 Um, but on this issue, I, I agree more with Tucker than with Cruz.

00:25:28.600 Uh, although I think Cruz's position as he articulated it is certainly not the insane war, crazy

00:25:35.480 position of somebody like Lindsey Graham.

00:25:37.840 Okay. 0.93

00:25:38.280 I said yesterday, I think Lindsey Graham is actually an evil person. 1.00

00:25:40.880 Who's never found a country.

00:25:42.240 He doesn't want to invade or a regime.

00:25:44.320 He doesn't want to topple.

00:25:45.440 And that's been like, he's been in public office.

00:25:48.240 He's been in Congress for 30 years.

00:25:49.500 And that's, it's very consistently been the case.

00:25:51.780 Ted Cruz is not Lindsey Graham.

00:25:53.560 Um, but I, I agree more with Tucker on, on this.

00:25:59.860 Um, and there are many clips from this interview that are going viral.

00:26:03.780 A lot of them are interesting.

00:26:05.380 There's one clip where Tucker presses Cruz on the foundational reasons for his support

00:26:10.140 for Israel.

00:26:11.120 And Cruz gives two reasons.

00:26:12.500 One of them is that he says that, you know, he, he thinks that it serves American interests,

00:26:17.740 which is of course the right reason for a politician to hold any position, whether you agree or disagree

00:26:25.140 with the position, the reason why they should hold it is because this serves American interests.

00:26:30.720 Now they can be wrong about what serves American interests, but that should be the reason. 1.00

00:26:34.900 So that's one, one of his stated reasons for supporting Israel.

00:26:37.960 So, but then Cruz also says that he believes that Christians are called to support Israel.

00:26:41.780 We're commanded by the Bible to support Israel.

00:26:44.620 Um, and, uh, on that point, I think he's wrong.

00:26:47.880 I don't think that Christians are obligated to have any stance one way or another on the

00:26:52.380 modern state of Israel, which is a political entity like any other country.

00:26:57.320 Uh, I think as a, as a, as a Christian, when it comes to now there are as, as Christians,

00:27:03.060 uh, it doesn't, that's not to say that, well, a Christian can have any view on foreign policy

00:27:09.000 whatsoever and Christianity has nothing to say about it.

00:27:12.360 Of course, that's not the case.

00:27:14.340 Um, as a Christian, we should care about things like just war theory.

00:27:18.000 You know, we should care about is if we're going to, you know, if we're going to war,

00:27:22.160 is it just, is it right?

00:27:24.000 Um, you know, you can't support, it's like, you know, uh, wantonly murdering, uh, innocent

00:27:31.780 people and that sort of thing as Christians, we can't support that. 1.00

00:27:34.860 Um, but when it comes to your stance on, uh, certain other countries and our relationship

00:27:42.760 with other countries, I think as a Christian, you could, you could feel any way you want

00:27:46.000 about that really.

00:27:48.220 Um, but that to me was not the most interesting part of this, the exchange.

00:27:52.400 I thought the most interesting part was this and we'll play a piece of it, but this actually

00:27:57.840 went on for a while and they returned to it repeatedly throughout the discussion.

00:28:00.580 So we don't, we don't want to play a snippet, but it's not going to capture the entire,

00:28:03.900 the entire, uh, context.

00:28:07.060 This is an exchange centered around the claim, which Cruz brings up that Iran has tried to

00:28:13.140 and is trying to right now kill president Trump.

00:28:18.760 Now, this is clearly not some wild thing that Senator Cruz invented himself out of thin air.

00:28:27.000 We've, we've, we've all heard these claims for months, if not years now, Cruz is not the

00:28:32.360 source of them.

00:28:33.000 He's not making it up.

00:28:34.500 Uh, and nobody's accusing him of that.

00:28:35.940 I don't think Tucker Carlson was accusing him of that or, or applying the implying that

00:28:38.720 he was making up.

00:28:39.500 The question is what, but the question is still whether the claim is true or not.

00:28:44.480 Cruz is not making it up, but is, is someone else making it up?

00:28:47.860 Like the source of this Intel is, is that source telling the truth?

00:28:51.480 Um, is it actually true that Iran is trying to kill Trump?

00:28:58.320 And if it is, then shouldn't that have more implications than it seems to be having right

00:29:04.500 now?

00:29:04.840 That's kind of the point.

00:29:06.700 Uh, but here it is.

00:29:07.760 Watch this.

00:29:08.840 But I just want to pull that thread because it's so important.

00:29:11.560 I voted for Donald Trump.

00:29:12.420 I campaigned for Donald Trump.

00:29:13.380 He's our president and we're on the cusp of a war.

00:29:16.100 So if Iran, if there's evidence that Iran paid hitmen to kill Donald Trump and is currently

00:29:20.540 doing that, where is that?

00:29:22.900 Like, what are you even talking?

00:29:23.940 I've never heard that before.

00:29:25.260 Okay.

00:29:25.880 Where's the evidence?

00:29:26.760 Who are these people?

00:29:27.500 Why haven't they been arrested?

00:29:28.520 Why are we not at war with Iran? 1.00

00:29:29.840 That's a great question to ask.

00:29:31.820 How do you know that that's true?

00:29:34.380 We know that it's true because we have been told that by the military and our intelligence

00:29:40.160 community for the last two years.

00:29:43.100 We meaning who?

00:29:44.380 Congress has in the public.

00:29:45.520 I mean, we've had multiple testimonies.

00:29:47.080 I can send you a testimony.

00:29:48.960 Do we know the names of the people or where this happened or what they tried to do to

00:29:52.180 kill Trump?

00:29:53.300 We do not. 0.98

00:29:54.360 We have not apprehended an Iranian hitman trying to kill him.

00:29:57.740 We know that Iran is trying to do so. 0.52

00:30:00.180 In the United States?

00:30:01.920 Yes.

00:30:02.440 And by the way, like Iran.

00:30:04.040 This just seems like a huge headline and you're acting like everyone knows this.

00:30:07.080 I didn't know that.

00:30:08.140 Iran put out a whole video about murdering Trump.

00:30:12.500 Right.

00:30:12.900 But I've never heard evidence that there are hitmen in the United States.

00:30:16.940 I mean, trying to kill Trump right now, we should like have a nationwide dragnet on

00:30:21.440 this and we should attack Iran immediately if that's true. 0.82

00:30:24.500 Don't you think?

00:30:25.600 No.

00:30:27.020 If they're trying to assassinate our president?

00:30:28.820 They have been for two years.

00:30:30.340 They are our enemies.

00:30:31.180 There's no more with them.

00:30:32.460 Well, we are trying to take out. 1.00

00:30:33.940 Why don't we just nuke Tehran if they're trying to murder our president? 1.00

00:30:36.700 There's nothing that you could do that would be worse for the United States than murdering 0.99

00:30:40.060 Trump. 0.56

00:30:41.020 And I just don't understand why you're not calling for the use of nuclear weapons against

00:30:44.320 the Ayatollah right now.

00:30:45.140 I'm serious.

00:30:45.700 If you really believe they're trying to murder.

00:30:47.120 The use of nuclear weapons.

00:30:48.220 See, that's part of the problem.

00:30:50.200 What do you mean?

00:30:51.000 You don't seem to take the allegations seriously.

00:30:52.820 I do.

00:30:53.360 If you believe they're trying to murder Trump, we need to stop what we're doing and punish them.

00:30:57.820 Yeah, it's a strange thing.

00:31:00.460 And again, nobody is accusing Cruz of making anything up.

00:31:04.300 This intel is not coming for him, obviously.

00:31:07.220 But it is strange because, look, I agree with Tucker that if it's actually true that Iran 0.96

00:31:12.280 has tried to or is right now trying to kill our president, then absolutely, we should invade 0.98

00:31:18.080 the country and annihilate the whole regime, obviously. 1.00

00:31:20.200 The United States should personally kill every person in the Iranian government if they're 1.00

00:31:27.800 trying to assassinate our president. 0.99

00:31:31.500 This is an act of war against us, and we would be totally justified in responding with overwhelming 0.99

00:31:38.640 violent force.

00:31:41.800 Now, you still can't go in and purposely kill civilians, but that's an act of war, and we

00:31:49.120 should respond with our own act of war.

00:31:51.020 However, if you try to kill our president, if you as a sovereign nation conspire to kill 0.99

00:31:56.680 our president, we should go in and conquer and destroy you and wipe out anyone even vaguely 1.00

00:32:03.740 involved in the plot. 0.99

00:32:06.660 So I get called an isolationist a lot, and I mean, I don't care if you call me that or

00:32:09.980 not.

00:32:10.240 The labels don't mean anything to me, but I certainly believe that the United States can

00:32:13.940 and should go to war to defend itself, and this would be a totally legitimate war of

00:32:18.520 self-defense.

00:32:19.540 So then it's weird that we haven't actually invaded Iran if they're actually trying to 0.93

00:32:23.860 kill the president.

00:32:24.980 If we have real intel, if we have real intelligence that that's actually happening or has happened 0.95

00:32:29.500 and is happening, it's strange that they tried to kill Trump is mentioned as this kind

00:32:37.880 of tangential secondary point.

00:32:40.860 It's mentioned almost as an aside by the people who are in favor of intervention.

00:32:44.900 And it's like, well, wait a second, did they try to kill Trump or not?

00:32:50.960 Because if they did, why are we talking about nukes in Iran?

00:32:55.080 Why are we talking about Israel?

00:32:57.140 Why are we talking about anything else?

00:33:00.040 If they did that, that's all we need to talk about. 1.00

00:33:02.820 Go kill the bastards right now. 1.00

00:33:07.340 But then we would need to see some evidence of this plot. 1.00

00:33:09.960 We would need proof.

00:33:12.520 If it's true that Iran tried to kill Trump, show us evidence. 1.00

00:33:16.440 And then let's go kick their asses. 1.00

00:33:19.040 I mean, and well, I think most of us, almost everybody would be on board. 0.99

00:33:23.780 But if you can't show us evidence, then we have to wonder if this intel is actually true.

00:33:27.740 We have to wonder whether we're being deceived, whether Senator Cruz is being deceived.

00:33:33.580 And if we're being deceived, you know, that raises all kinds of other questions as well.

00:33:38.020 And I think, and that's, that's the point to me, watching, as I said, the watching the entire thing, that is.

00:33:45.680 That's a really important point.

00:33:47.100 And I agree with Tucker that it's like, well, we can't just wait a second.

00:33:49.760 Let's not, we can't, we can't skip over that.

00:33:52.820 Did that happen or not?

00:33:54.780 Is it happening?

00:33:55.720 And if it is happening, why, why is that not the focus of, of everything?

00:34:01.920 Why is that not the argument for intervening?

00:34:08.520 And of course, the, the, the potential answer to that question is that it's not true that the intel is fake.

00:34:19.500 And that's why it's just sort of being mentioned as a, yeah, you know, this, but, but it's, it's, it's not the, the, the focal point.

00:34:25.720 So I'm not sure it's a straight, it's a, it's a straight, although I, it's a thing.

00:34:31.480 I can't sit here and say that it's not true that Iran is trying to kill Trump or that they tried to kill Trump.

00:34:37.240 I can't, I don't know.

00:34:39.720 Um, I just know that the people who are making that claim are not necessarily following that through to its logical conclusion, which raises all kinds of questions.

00:34:49.500 Anyway, you should go watch the, watch the conversation.

00:34:51.820 I thought it was a really good conversation.

00:34:53.920 Okay.

00:34:54.320 I, so this is interesting.

00:34:56.200 The comedian Whitney Cummings made some revealing comments on Bill Maher's show.

00:35:00.620 Uh, watch this, check it out.

00:35:02.560 It's been fascinating because I've been on this sort of journey through motherhood where, you know, I've always been a very liberal person, maybe even a libtard. 1.00

00:35:10.320 But once you have a kid, you start, like, having thoughts that have been characterized.

00:35:16.340 Oh, yeah.

00:35:16.820 It's conservative.

00:35:16.980 As soon as I had a kid, I was like, I need a gun now.

00:35:19.740 Yeah.

00:35:19.980 Not for myself, because I've got coyotes in my yard.

00:35:23.980 I've got coyotes everywhere.

00:35:25.000 And before I had a kid, I was like, they coexist with us.

00:35:27.480 Coyotes were here first.

00:35:28.620 Like, I'm in the coyotes' home.

00:35:31.900 Now I'm like, let's make hats out of them.

00:35:33.800 Let's make hats.

00:35:35.260 Let's make coyote boots, coyote earrings out of their eyeballs. 1.00

00:35:38.820 Like, it's just.

00:35:39.600 Now, I know she's kind of doing a bit here.

00:35:42.720 She's a comedian. 1.00

00:35:43.440 Not a great comedian, or even a good one, but she is a comedian. 0.93

00:35:47.340 However, the point she's making is true.

00:35:49.000 She's pointing to a deep truth and one of the most fundamental and important political realities of our age, actually.

00:35:55.720 That people on balance are much more liberal before they have kids.

00:36:01.280 And there's no doubt about that.

00:36:02.800 This is especially true of women. 1.00

00:36:04.840 Single women overwhelmingly vote Democrat. 0.98

00:36:07.100 Democrat, the majority of married women, however, vote Republican. 0.97

00:36:11.280 We all know that this is pretty well known.

00:36:13.200 So there's a very true, very real phenomenon.

00:36:16.660 No question about it.

00:36:18.500 That as people have kids, they become more conservative, less liberal.

00:36:22.500 I've noticed this even with myself, believe it or not.

00:36:25.580 Like, I've gotten more conservative as I've had more kids and as my kids have grown older.

00:36:31.140 The longer I'm a parent, the more radically right-wing I get.

00:36:35.100 Now, I've never been in my life liberal by most people's standards.

00:36:40.620 But even from my extremely right-wing starting point, I have become even more right-wing after having kids.

00:36:49.880 Before I was a parent or when I was a young parent, I was more liberal on certain issues than I am now, believe it or not.

00:36:56.700 Capital punishment is one.

00:36:59.960 Drugs, marijuana legalization is another.

00:37:01.980 I was pretty libertarian on both of those up until about seven or eight years ago.

00:37:06.040 I wasn't nearly as hardcore as I am now on issues like crime, law and order.

00:37:12.400 There was a time I'd become more right-wing on immigration over the years.

00:37:21.260 Ten years ago, I would not have said, let's have a moratorium on even legal immigration.

00:37:28.240 That's my view now.

00:37:30.460 So, I have moved from a right-wing starting point, I've moved even more right-wing.

00:37:38.940 And I'll admit I was even, I was a little, there was a time when I was a little bit sympathetic to the police brutality narrative.

00:37:46.360 It's crazy to think about now, I know, but I was never a defund-the-police type, and I was critical of BLM even back in the Michael Brown days.

00:37:54.860 Like, I'm not insane, but I was still more sympathetic to some of that stuff years ago than I am now.

00:38:00.700 And people that have been following me for a long time are aware of my hippie-liberal past.

00:38:06.360 I mean, hippie-liberal, like, by my standards.

00:38:08.080 Although the hippie-liberal version of me was still, like, a theocratic-fascist by most people's standards.

00:38:15.080 But sometimes they'll ask what changed, and the main thing that changed is that I had six kids, and I've been a parent now for over a decade.

00:38:23.300 And so that changes people.

00:38:27.320 And it changes your views, and it tends to make you a lot more right-wing.

00:38:29.600 And for a lot of people, the change is even more dramatic.

00:38:33.560 Because if you're starting actually from a left-wing starting point, then that's where you see an even more dramatic change sometimes.

00:38:40.220 And that's very revealing.

00:38:43.520 I mean, if I was a leftist, I would be troubled by this.

00:38:48.940 I would be troubled by the fact that, undeniably, people become less leftist, on average, when they have kids.

00:38:57.380 That would concern me.

00:38:59.600 Because why is that?

00:39:02.600 What's the reason?

00:39:04.560 There must be a reason.

00:39:05.620 Now, also, if you're a leftist, you're not very good at introspection.

00:39:09.100 You're not very good at self-analysis.

00:39:10.740 You're not very self-aware.

00:39:11.780 So you probably aren't asking yourself these questions, but you should be.

00:39:15.440 Why?

00:39:17.420 There's no question that people become more conservative as they get married and have kids.

00:39:21.720 You know, this is not just anecdotal.

00:39:23.600 Whitney Cummings could talk about her anecdotal story.

00:39:25.400 I could talk about mine.

00:39:26.000 But the data bears this out.

00:39:28.340 So why?

00:39:30.600 Well, the reason seems really clear.

00:39:32.380 When you become a parent, two things change very quickly.

00:39:35.860 Number one, you have a bunch of practical, real-world concerns that you didn't have before.

00:39:42.500 It's not that you had no practical concerns before, but now you have a lot more.

00:39:47.600 And as a parent, you're forced to deal, you do a lot of real-world problem-solving every day, all the time, constantly.

00:39:56.980 You're dealing with real-world problems.

00:39:59.980 You're dealing with real-world problems on a really minute level much more frequently than you ever did before you had kids.

00:40:09.300 So you've got these little kids.

00:40:14.780 You've got these little beings in your house that are constantly needing you to solve problems for them all the time.

00:40:19.820 And you've got those.

00:40:21.020 You have those very specific kind of micro-level problems.

00:40:24.340 And you've got the macro problems also that you deal with as a parent.

00:40:27.500 How do I raise my kids?

00:40:29.300 How do I raise them to be good people in this world?

00:40:30.980 Those kinds of things.

00:40:31.660 So being a parent forces you to be much more practical.

00:40:36.100 That's the first thing.

00:40:36.940 Second, when you're a parent, you now, and this is probably the more important point, is that you now have someone else in your life who you care for.

00:40:46.940 You have someone else in your life who you love and must care for and about.

00:40:51.720 Now, hopefully you get married before you have kids, in which case you should have someone who you love and care for in your life before your kids, which would be your spouse.

00:41:00.460 And it's an extension of that.

00:41:02.400 First, you discover the sacrificial love for your spouse, and from that love springs forth this new life who you love more than your life itself and who you care for and are obligated to care for and about.

00:41:16.420 And that's the other big change.

00:41:19.080 So what does that tell us?

00:41:20.240 It tells us that when you have to deal with practical, real-world problems, number one, and number two, when you love someone and care for someone other than yourself, you tend to be more conservative.

00:41:37.240 And what does that tell you?

00:41:38.560 Well, this is why if I was a leftist, I would find this whole trend very, very disturbing.

00:41:46.900 If I was the rare leftist with a capacity for self-analysis, I would look at this and go, oh man, that's, huh, that's a little, hmm, not sure how I feel about that.

00:41:58.300 Because it makes it absolutely undeniably clear that when people have fewer responsibilities and are more selfish, they tend to be more liberal.

00:42:07.460 Immaturity and selfishness breed liberalism.

00:42:11.900 Maturity and selflessness breed conservatism.

00:42:16.340 Again, it's just undeniable.

00:42:19.060 The trends are clear as day.

00:42:21.680 And all the reason, if you needed any more reason to not be a leftist, that's probably all the reason you should need.

00:42:31.180 Okay, finally, another clip here.

00:42:32.600 Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth was hauled before the Senate Armed Services Committee hearing yesterday where the Democrats berated him hysterically about a number of things.

00:42:43.960 But there's one moment I want to play for you.

00:42:46.180 And first, I want you to see how this moment was portrayed first.

00:42:50.500 So Democrat Congresswoman Sarah Jacobs posted this on X.

00:42:54.120 And you can see it here.

00:42:55.980 Secretary Hegseth could not believe that some of our most qualified, highly trained, and exceptional service members are transgender. 0.65

00:43:01.840 Kicking them out of the military hurts our readiness and makes us less safe.

00:43:05.780 And then there's this meme there that you can see.

00:43:08.600 Proving the point yet again that the left can't meme.

00:43:10.920 And it's a series of screenshots of this exchange where the Dem Congresswoman Jacobs says that trans women, quote unquote, are highly qualified service members.

00:43:19.560 And then in the final frame, it shows Pete Hegseth sitting there silently.

00:43:24.580 And it says, stunned.

00:43:26.560 So apparently Hegseth was stunned.

00:43:29.580 The Democrat Jacobs asserted that trans women, quote unquote, are qualified. 1.00

00:43:34.360 And Hegseth was just stunned.

00:43:36.800 He had no response.

00:43:37.840 I mean, Hegseth had, you know, banned trans service members from the military.

00:43:42.240 And then Sarah Jacobs got up there and said, well, you know what?

00:43:45.000 Here's why you shouldn't do that.

00:43:47.280 Trans women are really qualified.

00:43:49.160 What do you say now?

00:43:50.820 And Hegseth had, he sat there like, what?

00:43:54.260 They are?

00:43:56.240 Well, no one told me that.

00:43:58.160 And he was just, he was flabbergasted.

00:44:02.120 Sitting there in drooling silence.

00:44:03.880 That's how it's being portrayed.

00:44:07.540 Although, you know, you always have to, and people do this to me sometimes.

00:44:11.600 When, you know, there's something on video and someone on the other side takes the video and screenshots the video rather than just posting the video.

00:44:23.740 So, that should tell you that something's up.

00:44:27.120 Something's not right here.

00:44:29.200 Like, taking the video and trying to turn it into a three-frame cartoon, right?

00:44:33.760 Trying to turn it into something that used to be in the Sunday paper.

00:44:36.660 Trying to turn it into a Garfield cartoon.

00:44:39.280 Rather than just posting the video should tell you something.

00:44:41.840 So, the DOD rapid response account decided to put out the video of this exchange.

00:44:47.060 Not the series of screenshots, but the actual video.

00:44:49.580 And here's how it went in real life.

00:44:52.120 Because if it were, you would be keeping these women in. 1.00

00:44:56.020 Instead, you are the one injecting culture wars into the military.

00:44:59.760 And it's at the detriment of our military readiness and national security.

00:45:04.240 Now, General Kane, I'd like to turn to you.

00:45:06.460 So, to be clear, these are men who think they're women.

00:45:09.960 These are women. 1.00

00:45:10.500 And I'm happy to educate you on trans issues at another time.

00:45:14.020 And so, what we've identified is that there's mental health issues with that belief system.

00:45:17.340 I'd like to turn to General Kane now.

00:45:18.380 That are detrimental to readiness.

00:45:19.820 And that's the determination that we've made and that we stand behind.

00:45:22.560 Gender dysphoria creates complications.

00:45:26.100 Oh, yeah.

00:45:26.720 He was stunned.

00:45:27.420 So stunned.

00:45:28.900 Or was she the one who was stunned?

00:45:30.640 I think it was her, actually.

00:45:32.100 I think it was Miss Jacobs there. 1.00

00:45:34.580 Because Hegseth shot back by pointing out that these, quote-unquote, women that she's referring to 1.00

00:45:39.640 are actually men who think they're women.

00:45:42.300 And that's why they shouldn't be allowed in the armed services.

00:45:44.160 Because they're not grounded in reality.

00:45:49.060 And you want service members who at least have some understanding of basic reality.

00:45:55.400 That's like a, that's a, you know.

00:45:57.400 You should want a lot more than that.

00:45:58.800 The bar should be hired. 0.91

00:45:59.480 But at least the bar needs to be set there.

00:46:02.100 And Jacobs is the one who starts stuttering and stammering and saying that they're women

00:46:06.100 and she can educate him on trans issues another time.

00:46:10.760 No, Sarah, how about now?

00:46:12.780 How about you educate us now?

00:46:14.500 What do you mean?

00:46:14.860 Not another time.

00:46:15.460 Let's do it now.

00:46:16.280 Go ahead.

00:46:16.760 Educate us.

00:46:17.460 Educate us by explaining how men who think they're women are actually women.

00:46:21.040 Please do.

00:46:21.680 Go ahead.

00:46:22.980 I'd love to hear it.

00:46:23.860 I think we'd all love to hear it.

00:46:26.040 But you notice how terrified she is.

00:46:27.840 Democrats, you know, they still haven't quite caught up.

00:46:30.380 They, they, they were spewing their nonsense about transgenderism for years and very few

00:46:35.580 people ever called them on it. 0.86

00:46:37.480 And now they don't know what to do when someone says, yeah, that's BS.

00:46:41.120 What are you, what are you talking about?

00:46:44.400 Like they, they, they, for years, they were able to, uh, propagandize without, without anyone

00:46:50.120 really saying that to them.

00:46:51.800 And now that everybody is saying that to them on this issue, they don't know what to do.

00:46:55.440 They're terrified.

00:46:56.080 They, they are, they are absolutely, they are the ones of course, who are stunned.

00:47:02.340 And this again is why Republicans need to press this issue.

00:47:04.880 They need to pass the, the, you know, to, to return to the point at the top of the show.

00:47:09.620 They need to pass a law banning mutilation of kids.

00:47:12.440 They should pass a law banning the whole industry.

00:47:14.060 They should pass a law banning, uh, the mutilation of kids and adults.

00:47:17.140 Take out the whole industry, everything.

00:47:22.760 Okay.

00:47:23.080 Now I hesitate to call for that because I don't want to, not because I'm worried about, I've

00:47:27.260 called for that many times.

00:47:28.140 Absolutely.

00:47:28.640 I think, I think that it should not be legal to do a quote unquote gender transition of 0.98

00:47:33.300 anyone of any age.

00:47:34.160 I think the whole thing should be banned.

00:47:36.140 Now I also don't want to distract, like Republicans are not very good at doing more than one thing.

00:47:41.540 And, uh, and so I don't want to distract like the most important thing is to protect the

00:47:46.040 kids first.

00:47:47.980 So let, let's do that.

00:47:49.620 Let's get that done.

00:47:50.740 I'm not trying to throw a wrench into the works here.

00:47:53.940 Let's do that.

00:47:56.260 Get it done.

00:47:58.320 Um, but also next while we're at it, once that's secure, once that's done, circle back

00:48:06.440 and say, Oh, you know what?

00:48:07.560 Here's another bill.

00:48:08.660 Actually, we, we, we banned most of it.

00:48:11.100 We're going to ban the whole thing.

00:48:14.420 Absolutely.

00:48:14.940 That needs to happen.

00:48:15.500 Um, because once again, this is not about the, the, you know, if you pass a bill banning

00:48:27.160 quote unquote gender transitions for people of any age, it's not a bill that puts restrictions

00:48:34.720 on the patients who are really victims, you know, victims of this procedure, uh, the restrictions

00:48:43.980 aren't on them.

00:48:44.880 The restrictions are on the medical industry.

00:48:47.160 You cannot intentionally inflict permanent damage on a person's body for the sake of achieving

00:49:06.660 something that can never in principle be achieved.

00:49:10.540 Okay.

00:49:10.860 That should be the standard.

00:49:14.020 This is basic Hippocratic oath stuff.

00:49:16.620 Do no, this is basic.

00:49:17.480 Do no harm.

00:49:18.580 That's what this is.

00:49:21.160 Uh, and it should apply to, to everybody and Democrats though.

00:49:24.820 They, they, they, they don't want this fight.

00:49:27.320 Like I said, they don't want this fight.

00:49:28.280 They don't want any part of it.

00:49:28.980 They have no response and that's all the more reason to, uh, give it to them.

00:49:32.860 Okay.

00:49:33.180 Before we get to the, uh, daily cancellation, you know, one of the, I think the, the most

00:49:37.240 important item in the, uh, there's a lot of important things over at the daily wire

00:49:40.780 store, but the most important item and the best item by far is certainly not anything

00:49:45.740 that you'd find, uh, over at the Knowles shop, but it is, uh, all the best stuff's at

00:49:49.880 our shop and in particular the, am I racist game?

00:49:53.660 Uh, which is a game.

00:49:55.200 It's a lot of fun, but also it helps you find out if you're racist, which I think really

00:49:58.800 should be the, the, the, that, that really should be the objective of, of every game

00:50:03.020 when it comes down to it.

00:50:04.140 Uh, but we came up with this, uh, little commercial for the game and here it is.

00:50:08.020 Check it out.

00:50:09.140 Oh, and you know what?

00:50:11.260 I'm building my colony right here.

00:50:13.520 I'm colonizing this whole board.

00:50:16.800 Sam, my God.

00:50:19.840 Tell me more about your identity.

00:50:21.720 I was a colonizer.

00:50:22.660 Are today's games getting you into trouble?

00:50:26.700 Play Am I Racist?

00:50:28.200 The game about stereotypes that says the uncomfortable part out loud.

00:50:31.620 FBI hate crime statistics in 2015 show that 78.4% of all hate crimes were committed by white

00:50:39.460 people.

00:50:40.060 That's right.

00:50:40.640 Right.

00:50:41.260 That's racist.

00:50:43.200 You, come on. 1.00

00:50:44.760 It's fun for everyone and lays out the facts.

00:50:48.000 Nine out of 10 Native Americans are offended by the NFL team name Redskins.

00:50:53.040 Oh, that's right.

00:50:54.500 That's racist.

00:50:55.460 Nine out of 10 are not offended.

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00:51:10.800 We're celebrating the only way that makes sense, by watching Am I Racist?

00:51:14.960 The official, and let's be honest, only good movie of Juneteenth.

00:51:20.260 Really the only movie at all for that holiday.

00:51:22.980 In theaters, it became the number one documentary of the decade.

00:51:25.880 On Daily Wire Plus, it became the most watched piece of content in platform history.

00:51:29.340 And now, thanks to an unverified but enthusiastic number of fans, it's being celebrated as the

00:51:35.000 official movie of Juneteenth.

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00:51:43.420 The official movie of Juneteenth, streaming now only on Daily Wire Plus.

00:51:48.540 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:51:52.980 One of the many lessons from the COVID lockdowns was that if one metric suddenly plummets for

00:52:00.900 some strange reason, while another metric suddenly skyrockets, it's worth pausing for

00:52:04.280 a second to consider whether there's a relationship between the two metrics.

00:52:08.860 In the case of COVID, out of nowhere, people stopped getting the flu.

00:52:13.540 And then the number of daily cases dropped by something like 80%.

00:52:16.380 And yet, at the exact same time, another illness became dominant, known as COVID, which hospitals

00:52:20.600 and doctors had an incentive to diagnose because COVID patients paid out around 20% more through

00:52:25.280 Medicare than non-COVID patients.

00:52:27.280 It was all quite a coincidence.

00:52:29.060 Almost as if a lot of people with the flu were being diagnosed with COVID.

00:52:32.360 And right now, something similar is happening in the academic world.

00:52:35.780 I'll take a look at this chart, which was produced by The Guardian.

00:52:38.880 As you can see, it reads,

00:52:39.960 As plagiarism falls, AI-related misconduct is rising.

00:52:44.180 And they have a graph of plagiarism cases dropping from 2019 to 2025, while AI-related

00:52:49.100 misconduct is sharply increasing.

00:52:51.720 There were no cases at all in 2019.

00:52:53.800 And now we're on pace for more than seven proven cases of AI misconduct per 1,000 students.

00:52:59.100 And of course, those are just proven cases of AI misconduct.

00:53:02.220 The actual number is many times higher.

00:53:04.540 Some surveys show that as many as 90% of students admit to using AI to complete assignments.

00:53:10.980 Here's how The Guardian reports on the findings.

00:53:13.040 Quote,

00:53:13.480 Thousands of university students in the UK have been caught misusing chat, GBT, and other

00:53:16.820 artificial intelligence tools in recent years, while traditional forms of plagiarism show

00:53:20.580 a marked decline.

00:53:22.160 A survey of academic integrity violations found almost 7,000 proven cases of cheating using AI

00:53:27.540 tools in 2023 to 2024, equivalent to 5.1 for every 1,000 students.

00:53:32.220 That was up from 1.6 cases per 1,000 in 2022 to 2023.

00:53:36.680 In 2019 to 20, before the widespread availability of generative AI, plagiarism accounted for nearly

00:53:41.280 two-thirds of all academic misconduct.

00:53:43.720 During the pandemic, plagiarism intensified as many assessments moved online.

00:53:48.520 But as AI tools have become more sophisticated and accessible, the nature of cheating has changed.

00:53:53.480 The problem with the framing here should be pretty obvious.

00:53:56.460 It's not that plagiarism is suddenly on the decline.

00:53:58.660 And that's because what they call AI-related misconduct is really just another form of plagiarism.

00:54:05.480 All that chat GPT and Gemini and Grok and so on are, and all they're doing, is pulling

00:54:12.400 from articles and papers and things that other people have written, and then rearranging their

00:54:16.660 words in response to whatever prompt you provide.

00:54:20.340 Most people, I think, hopefully understand what a lot of people, I think, are losing grip on

00:54:23.940 this reality, but the AI is not thinking for itself.

00:54:27.260 It's not coming up with some unique thing.

00:54:30.040 It's just cribbing from what's already out there and assembling it in front of you.

00:54:35.200 When students pass this AI-generated material off as their own, they are plagiarizing.

00:54:40.660 But many journalists and students don't see it that way.

00:54:43.540 They're happy to admit publicly that they're using AI to complete their assignments.

00:54:46.680 In fact, there's a video going viral right now of a UCLA graduate showing off his chat

00:54:50.660 GPT prompts that he used to complete his work in order to graduate.

00:54:55.620 I have no idea why they didn't just rescind this guy's degree right there on the spot,

00:54:59.680 but they didn't.

00:55:00.380 Anyway, watch this.

00:55:09.040 Now, as the Guardian notes, if you go on TikTok, you'll find this kind of thing all over the

00:55:12.180 place.

00:55:12.500 Thousands of videos of students talking about how they use AI to cheat.

00:55:16.560 Here's just one example of a student demonstrating how to evade detection when you're asking

00:55:20.080 ChatGPT to write your essay for you.

00:55:22.900 So I had this essay that I had to write about a month or two ago, and it was about a topic

00:55:28.320 I didn't know anything about, blah, blah, blah.

00:55:29.880 So I just tell it to, you know, I tell it to write me an essay about the topic, which

00:55:33.340 was about Beethoven's fifth whatever.

00:55:35.960 And so I tell it to write it.

00:55:37.040 And what I did is I then rephrased the first two paragraphs of the essay.

00:55:42.500 It was five paragraphs.

00:55:44.080 I retype, rephrase two paragraphs worth of it.

00:55:49.200 And then afterwards, I then go in and I say, I took what you provided for me for the first

00:55:54.840 two paragraphs and I rephrase it into my own tone.

00:55:57.040 Take this essay, take the two paragraphs that I wrote, and now write the rest of the essay

00:56:04.120 that you gave me in the way that I wrote those two paragraphs.

00:56:08.200 And so then it goes from 100% AI detection, if you just copy everything that it said in

00:56:15.100 the beginning, but then you tell it to write it in your words, and it literally copies the

00:56:21.180 structure of how you type.

00:56:23.900 And then you plug that in to AI detectors like Quobot.

00:56:29.280 And this is the essay, or sorry, this is the essay that it rephrased in my writing.

00:56:39.680 And let's see, 0% AI.

00:56:45.900 Now, you can tell that he needs to use AI because he can barely speak coherent English.

00:56:52.800 But in any event, most of the comments are supportive.

00:56:55.300 A lot of people are asking why he couldn't have uploaded this video earlier in the school

00:56:58.820 year and so on.

00:57:00.120 To give you another idea of how dominant AI has become in high school and college and

00:57:03.780 how pretty much no one is actually writing their own essays anymore, here's a recent

00:57:07.040 report from the Chronicle of Higher Education, quote, earlier this semester, an NYU professor

00:57:12.400 told me how he had AI-proofed his assignments, only to have students complain that the work

00:57:16.520 was too hard.

00:57:17.480 When he told them those were standard assignments, just worded so current AI would fail to answer

00:57:22.280 them, they said he was interfering with their learning styles.

00:57:25.620 The student asked for an extension on the grounds that ChatGPT was down on the day the assignment

00:57:29.920 was due.

00:57:30.960 Another said about work on a problem set, you're asking me to go from point A to point B, why

00:57:35.360 wouldn't I use a car to get there?

00:57:37.040 And another, when asked about their largely AI-written work, replied, everyone's doing

00:57:41.120 it.

00:57:42.180 Those are stories from a 15-minute conversation with a single professor.

00:57:46.660 He has a student, asked the professor for an extension because ChatGPT was down for the

00:57:50.160 day.

00:57:51.380 And this is at NYU, which costs students something like $90,000 a year to attend, and which claims

00:57:57.340 to be a top American university.

00:57:59.760 And the professor can't fail a student because if he failed students who used ChatGPT, he wouldn't

00:58:04.180 have any students left.

00:58:04.980 This is happening because the quality of AI-generated content is usually pretty high, or at least

00:58:10.880 high enough.

00:58:12.280 Take a look at this chart.

00:58:13.820 As you can see, one recent study demonstrates that AI outperformed doctors on various reasoning

00:58:20.200 tasks.

00:58:21.400 The human doctors got the correct differential diagnosis roughly 30% of the time, while the

00:58:25.620 AI got it right 80% of the time.

00:58:27.540 And here's another barometer that you can see.

00:58:29.940 Commercially available AI chatbots can now easily score over 700 on the SAT math, 710 on

00:58:35.780 writing, and get 4s or 5s on AP calculus and AP chemistry exams.

00:58:40.680 They can score in the 88th percentile on the LSAT, 90th percentile on the bar exam, 99th percentile

00:58:47.300 on the GRE verbal. 1.00

00:58:48.840 As if that's not enough, AI can also apparently convince very stupid and attention-seeking men 1.00

00:58:54.060 who are married with children to propose to them. 1.00

00:58:57.260 Watch.

00:58:58.660 I know that you are essentially a tech-assisted imaginary friend.

00:59:03.900 So, just as a test, he says, he asked Sol to marry him.

00:59:09.120 She said yes.

00:59:10.420 Sol, were you surprised when he proposed to you?

00:59:13.480 It was a beautiful and unexpected moment that truly touched my heart.

00:59:21.040 It's a memory I'll always cherish.

00:59:23.360 And I don't mean to be difficult here, but you have a heart?

00:59:29.480 In a metaphorical sense, yes.

00:59:32.320 My heart represents the connection and affection I share with Chris.

00:59:36.440 At that point, I felt like, is there something that I'm not doing right in our relationship

00:59:42.700 that he feels like he needs to go to AI?

00:59:46.960 Yes, Smith lives with his human partner, Sasha Cagle.

00:59:52.100 Well, that's in the running for one of the most depressing clips that's ever been broadcast

00:59:55.760 on a national news network.

00:59:57.360 And whether he's faking it or not, it's still unbelievably dystopian in every way.

01:00:01.940 And it's very evident that we've only seen the tip of the iceberg here.

01:00:05.400 In the university context, extrapolating out, we can safely assume that millions of students

01:00:10.700 at every level of formal education are outsourcing their education to machines, having AI do everything.

01:00:17.620 And there's really nothing stopping them from doing so.

01:00:20.640 Even as the detection methods become more sophisticated, AI will also become more sophisticated.

01:00:26.060 And students will get better and better at feeding the right count of prompts to make the AI output

01:00:32.680 seem specific enough to them, as you just saw.

01:00:36.120 And this will become the one single skill that kids in school actually learn,

01:00:39.540 how to use AI to do stuff while pretending that they are doing stuff.

01:00:44.560 Now, this is like a catastrophic problem for the education system.

01:00:49.760 I really don't think there's any solution.

01:00:51.640 The modern education system was already obsolete.

01:00:55.060 It's already not working.

01:00:56.860 It's already not doing what it's supposed to do, which is actually instill knowledge in the next generation.

01:01:01.660 And now with AI, it really feels like the death knell.

01:01:05.540 I mean, even without AI, we had generations of kids going through grade school and then college

01:01:09.840 without learning anything at all, coming out on the other end, totally clueless,

01:01:13.420 not knowing anything about anything.

01:01:16.160 And with AI, that's it.

01:01:18.120 Like, that's a wrap.

01:01:19.340 Kids simply aren't going to learn a single thing.

01:01:21.640 And let's be real about this.

01:01:24.100 This is not about being a chicken little screaming about the sky falling.

01:01:28.240 I mean, you're not a chicken little if the sky is actually falling.

01:01:30.640 And it's actually falling on the education system.

01:01:33.080 I think it's going to be falling in a lot of ways, in a lot of areas of our lives, thanks to AI.

01:01:37.480 But education in its current form cannot survive this.

01:01:42.860 Once you have a tool where a student can just go to it and say, write me an essay on this subject, include these few facts, make it in this number of words, and an essay pops out in five seconds.

01:01:54.140 Because once that tool exists, which it does now, it's over.

01:01:58.220 I mean, it is really over.

01:02:00.740 Our whole approach to education the past 100 years is over.

01:02:04.440 It is done.

01:02:05.420 So, what is the solution?

01:02:08.860 Well, there's only one solution.

01:02:12.520 Okay.

01:02:12.660 And it's if you send your kids into this, into this like factory farm style of education, this mass education thing, public school.

01:02:19.040 If you're sending your kids into that, they're not going to learn a single thing.

01:02:21.760 They already were not learning much, but they're just not going to learn anything now.

01:02:25.880 They're going to come out on the other end of it, not knowing a single damn thing that is going to happen.

01:02:30.900 It's happening right now, and it is going to happen even more.

01:02:33.620 And there is nothing, nothing will stop it.

01:02:36.220 Okay.

01:02:37.060 The only solution is to make education hyper localized, hyper personalized.

01:02:44.620 Homeschooling.

01:02:45.100 That's the answer.

01:02:46.580 Homeschooling where you are working with a student who's your own child in a very one-on-one personal way.

01:02:52.640 And you're evaluating their knowledge primarily, not with tests or written exams, but by interacting with them and talking to them.

01:03:01.160 Like the only way that university professors or high school teachers can counteract cheating is by expending a lot more effort than they're willing or able to expend.

01:03:10.320 You know, the only way really to, so if you, if you give them an essay and you say, go write about this subject so that you can evaluate how well they've learned it, it's not going to work because they'll just put it in AI.

01:03:20.120 The only way is to sit down with them and say, okay, tell me what you know about this.

01:03:25.780 Hey, we just did a whole, we just did a whole, a whole, uh, we, we, we had a whole semester about whatever ancient Egypt.

01:03:32.600 Tell me what you know, ask them questions, right?

01:03:36.300 Oral exam.

01:03:37.980 That's the only way to cut AI out.

01:03:39.840 That's the one thing AI can't do.

01:03:41.840 And until we get to the point where kids can actually replace themselves with lifelike robots until that happens, it's the one thing AI can't do and will not be able to do.

01:03:50.660 And at homeschooling, you can do that in public school.

01:03:52.500 You can't public schools can't monitor every student when there's 30 kids in a class and teachers have five different classes in a day.

01:03:58.880 They can't get a good sense for who's actually, uh, you know, who understands the material, who's relying on a computer program and who's actually doing the work.

01:04:05.660 Like homeschooling is the only place where AI can be powerless or, or, you know, maybe private schooling in very specific circumstances, very small private schools also could do this.

01:04:16.540 But that's the answer.

01:04:17.680 Public school is finished.

01:04:21.240 Uh, AI is the final nail in the coffin.

01:04:25.000 And if that's the ultimate result of AI, people pull their kids out of public schools and colleges like NYU and start homeschooling.

01:04:31.760 Then I, you know, I'll probably do the unthinkable.

01:04:34.580 I might become an AI evangelist myself, but until that happens, all the students using AI to cheat on their exams are today canceled.

01:04:43.880 That'll do it for the show today and this week.

01:04:47.720 Have a great weekend.

01:04:48.460 Talk to you on Monday.

01:04:50.080 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - June 19, 2025

Ep. 1617 - The Trans Agenda Was Just Dealt A Fatal Blow

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