The Matt Walsh Show - December 17, 2018


Ep. 163 - Male Miss Universe Contestant Appropriates Womanhood


Episode Stats

Length

28 minutes

Words per Minute

159.08069

Word Count

4,483

Sentence Count

282

Misogynist Sentences

29

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

A 7-year-old girl who died in the care of a Border Patrol agent has new details about what happened to her and why she died. Also, a man competed in the Miss Universe pageant last night. How is that not appropriation? We'll talk about that today on the Matt Walsh Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.040 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, more information has come out in the case of the seven-year-old girl who died in the care of Border Patrol.
00:00:06.720 It's becoming clearer and clearer, in my view, that Border Patrol did nothing wrong, but that's not what the left is saying.
00:00:11.560 We'll talk about that. Also, a man competed in the Miss Universe pageant last night. How is that not appropriation?
00:00:18.440 We'll talk about that today on the Matt Walsh Show.
00:00:20.580 Well, we begin today with the tragic story of Jacqueline Call, who's the seven-year-old girl who, as it is phrased by the media, died in the care of Border Patrol last week.
00:00:38.240 Of course, that's true in a literal and immediate kind of sense.
00:00:45.060 It is literally true that she died in the care of Border Patrol, but it's not necessarily true or evidently true that she died because of Border Patrol,
00:00:53.260 although that obviously is the conclusion that the media is trying to lead us to.
00:00:58.860 When they phrase it that way in their headlines and everything else, they say a child died in the care of Border Patrol.
00:01:05.500 Obviously, what they're trying to insinuate, what they want you to take away from that, is that it was Border Patrol's fault.
00:01:11.040 But we were told last week that Jacqueline and her father were detained along a remote stretch of the border with about 160 other people.
00:01:19.480 Jacqueline died hours later at a hospital in Texas.
00:01:22.060 It was originally reported that she was dehydrated and hadn't had anything to eat or drink in several days.
00:01:27.600 The father now disputes that.
00:01:29.620 He says that she was provided for.
00:01:34.280 He had been feeding her, making sure that she was drinking and everything.
00:01:37.200 He also claims that, you know, this was not a in arduous and potentially fatal journey through the desert and everything.
00:01:48.820 He's calling for an investigation into Border Patrol.
00:01:51.920 Now.
00:01:53.080 The hospital that treated her.
00:01:56.040 And actually, let's let's back up for a moment.
00:01:58.340 It's important to emphasize this, that a hospital was treating her.
00:02:03.140 According to the story that we have now, the girl and her father were picked up on the border.
00:02:09.780 Originally, the child did not appear to be ill.
00:02:12.700 The father even signed a form declaring her to be healthy.
00:02:18.640 Which is another crucial fact.
00:02:21.420 Now, lawyers for the father are complaining that that he didn't understand the form because he speaks an obscure Mayan dialect.
00:02:28.120 And Spanish is a second language.
00:02:30.640 He doesn't speak English at all.
00:02:32.280 Well, you know, I don't know if he understood the forms or not.
00:02:35.280 But are we really are we actually expected to have forms in Mayan that we can provide to the people that come across the border?
00:02:43.500 However, if you come to a country speaking a language that nobody knows in this country, the country that you came to, how can that be the fault of the of the country that you came to?
00:02:58.280 Well, in any case, he signed the form.
00:03:02.000 Hours later, she began vomiting, was having trouble breathing.
00:03:05.040 They airlifted her to a hospital and tragically, she died there in the hospital.
00:03:09.880 The hospital says that she likely died from sepsis shock, which is a condition, as I understand it, which stems from inflammation in the body, causing lots of catastrophic problems, including organ failure.
00:03:24.220 Now, here's an here's an interesting note.
00:03:27.240 The Guatemalan consul says that the father told him that he has no complaints about how the Border Patrol treated his daughter, even though the father's lawyers are calling for an investigation.
00:03:38.680 According to the Guatemalan consul, the father had no complaints.
00:03:42.020 According to him, the father says that that Border Patrol did everything they could to save his daughter's life.
00:03:49.200 Border Patrol itself says that they did provide water when they first detained this group.
00:03:55.800 And again, when she began vomiting and was having trouble breathing, they revived her twice right there on the spot.
00:04:03.400 She got medical attention, urgent medical attention on the spot.
00:04:06.280 Then they put her then they they airlifted her to a hospital where tragically she died.
00:04:15.760 Is it true that she hadn't been drinking or eating for days and that's what led to this medical emergency?
00:04:22.160 Well, that's what Border Patrol originally said.
00:04:24.580 The father disputes it.
00:04:26.320 I guess we don't know for sure, but there are some undisputed facts here.
00:04:30.500 OK, I don't think there are some aspects of this story that are, I think, pretty clear to everyone.
00:04:37.100 So here are the what I think are the undisputed facts.
00:04:40.400 It's undisputed that the child was only in U.S. custody for a few hours.
00:04:44.900 So nobody is even claiming that she was locked somewhere being detained for days and days and then she died, which, of course, would put a would put an entirely different color on this whole situation.
00:04:57.100 So that's that's undisputed.
00:04:59.720 It was she was in our custody for only a few hours.
00:05:02.940 They did give her medical treatment.
00:05:05.020 They did fly her to a hospital.
00:05:06.920 Nobody disputes that.
00:05:07.780 They did try to save her life.
00:05:09.000 Nobody disputes that.
00:05:10.780 Her dire physical condition was not caused by Border Patrol.
00:05:14.940 It was not you know, she was not abused or mistreated in a way that would cause these problems.
00:05:20.280 Nobody's even claiming that.
00:05:21.520 I don't think any of these facts are disputed by anyone.
00:05:27.580 The only.
00:05:30.160 It what we know is that she was detained.
00:05:34.500 She apparently was already in a dire medical.
00:05:39.980 You know, state.
00:05:42.340 Even though that was not immediately apparent and forms were signed saying the contrary, but she was up.
00:05:49.160 But she was already in that condition.
00:05:51.520 By the time Border Patrol agents got to her, even if it wasn't apparent immediately.
00:05:57.240 Now, did she get to that point of being septic because of the arduous journey across Mexico and a lack of food and water?
00:06:05.240 I don't know, though.
00:06:06.420 It certainly would seem to be a logical conclusion that her physical condition must have had something to do with the ordeal that she'd just been through.
00:06:16.060 It's not to get from Guatemala to the U.S. border.
00:06:19.560 Now, I don't know.
00:06:20.400 I don't know how exactly they they got there.
00:06:25.460 I don't know.
00:06:26.340 I don't think anyone knows, except for the father and that group of people, what happened along the way.
00:06:30.480 But it certainly is not an easy journey unless you're just getting in an airplane and flying the whole way, which we can assume they did not do.
00:06:37.740 So it's not an easy journey.
00:06:39.800 And if a child comes through that journey and gets to the other end of it and is in this state, I think it's logical to conclude that that must have had something to do with it.
00:06:48.740 But the real question here is now.
00:06:53.740 So we don't know in terms of the father's culpability or, you know, was he caring for his daughter the whole way, making sure that he she was eating and drinking.
00:07:04.640 He says he was.
00:07:05.460 So we don't know that.
00:07:08.140 But the question is, is there any based on the information we have now, is there actually any reason at all to think that this was the fault of Border Patrol?
00:07:17.900 Do we have any.
00:07:21.720 Basis upon which to hang that conclusion?
00:07:25.860 And I would say, again, no.
00:07:27.700 But that, of course, has not stopped the left from drawing these conclusions anyway.
00:07:33.040 In fact, there's an editorial on the NBC News website by Julio Varela with the title.
00:07:41.520 Jacqueline Call's death at the Mexico border is our fault, not her father's.
00:07:46.520 And I want to read you a little bit of this because I think it's pretty representative of the consensus on the left when it comes to this issue.
00:07:51.320 It says a seven-year-old Guatemalan girl named Jacqueline Amir Rosemary Call McKean died last week in the custody of U.S. Customs and Border Protection.
00:08:00.780 And the Trump administration has chosen to blame the victim and her father for the death.
00:08:06.220 Now, that's just a lie.
00:08:08.120 And I've seen this on Twitter.
00:08:09.580 I've seen this on social media.
00:08:11.400 This, well, Trump and the Trump administration, they're victim blaming.
00:08:15.140 No, they're not.
00:08:16.040 Nobody has blamed the girl for her own death.
00:08:18.520 I have not seen that anywhere.
00:08:19.860 No one in the Trump administration has said that.
00:08:22.500 Nobody has blamed the girl.
00:08:23.980 So that is just a straightforward lie.
00:08:27.160 That's all that is.
00:08:29.160 It goes on.
00:08:29.980 This is the nation that Trump has created, a country that continues to dehumanize and criminalize Central American migrants without any sense of compassion or explanation for the root causes of why people are fleeing their countries in the first place.
00:08:40.860 Even if I were to agree with that paragraph, which I don't, it has nothing at all to do with the fact that this poor girl died.
00:08:49.380 It has nothing to do with it.
00:08:51.560 According to the Trump administration, her death was her fault, and it was her dad's fault.
00:08:55.500 Even though government officials confirmed that after being held for several hours in a remote border patrol station, Jacqueline was put on a bus for 90 minutes to be transferred to a larger border station for processing before getting any emergency medical care for her symptoms, which included vomiting.
00:09:09.360 By the time a bus had stopped, so had her breathing.
00:09:11.380 A child is dead, and the current administration shows no remorse.
00:09:13.960 There's that lie again, that the Trump administration is saying that her death was her fault.
00:09:21.100 Where was that said?
00:09:22.600 Who said that?
00:09:23.580 Who has said that?
00:09:25.080 Can you give me the quote?
00:09:27.640 It goes on a little later.
00:09:29.180 Immediate care didn't really apply to Jacqueline's situation, the place where she and her father turned themselves into CBP, had no medical care providers, and, as the secretary noted, wasn't staffed to handle the 163 people who arrived that day.
00:09:43.400 And the idea that border patrol is some welcoming force when migrants surrender themselves to the agency is just not true.
00:09:50.360 So, what would this person have us do?
00:09:54.980 What would the left have us do?
00:09:57.400 We have to be equipped to handle any amount of people anywhere on the border at any time.
00:10:02.820 We have to have a team of doctors on standby, stationed across the border, ready to conduct full physicals of every person who comes across immediately.
00:10:13.780 You know, I'm not making a straw man here.
00:10:15.340 This is really what this person expects.
00:10:17.420 This must be what they expect.
00:10:20.380 The family was detained.
00:10:22.220 They were given a medical survey.
00:10:23.860 They said they were fine.
00:10:27.500 They were held for a few hours, and then they were put on a bus.
00:10:32.740 Nothing about that is unreasonable.
00:10:35.640 That's an exceedingly reasonable way of dealing with this situation.
00:10:39.540 When you have a whole group of 160 people who are trying to cross the border illegally, initially anyway, if you want to find out if any of them are sick or if there's anything wrong, all you can do is ask them.
00:10:54.440 Obviously, you can't perform full medical exams on all of them right there on the spot.
00:11:00.760 Then, when the child started vomiting, she received medical attention.
00:11:06.480 If you have a problem with that chain of events, if there's something here that seems unreasonable to you, then you must really expect that immediate and full medical attention should be provided to everyone who crosses the border right away, no matter where they are, and no matter if they ask for medical attention or not, which, of course, is crazy.
00:11:26.000 Well, the author of the article complains that, yes, they did sign forms attesting to their health, but that wasn't good enough.
00:11:34.640 The article says, and though the government has argued that Jacqueline's father was asked to sign forms attesting to their health, the forms are presented in English or Spanish.
00:11:43.460 Jacqueline's father speaks Ka'ekchi, an indigenous language of the region, and may not speak Spanish at all.
00:11:50.420 Okay, so now we have to have forms in Ka'ekchi.
00:11:56.460 That's, we are required to have forms in Ka'ekchi.
00:12:00.800 That's a language spoken by a few hundred thousand people on the entire planet Earth, okay?
00:12:08.560 There are literally hundreds of indigenous languages still spoken in Central and South America today.
00:12:15.040 Are we supposed to have forms in each of those languages?
00:12:18.000 And how are we supposed to know which language group is crossing at what time and where?
00:12:26.680 Should Border Patrol literally carry around with them at all times hundreds of forms in hundreds of different languages?
00:12:35.080 And how are they supposed to know which form to give to which person?
00:12:39.260 They don't speak the language.
00:12:40.120 So I guess we're going to need hundreds of translators for hundreds of languages carrying hundreds of forms across thousands of miles of borders.
00:12:49.660 That, I mean, that's what, if you, if you are blaming Border Patrol for not having a medical form written in a mostly extinct Mayan language to give to this family,
00:13:02.600 if you're blaming them, then this must really be what you expect.
00:13:05.800 You must expect that they'll have a form in every Central and South American language that every Border Patrol agent will have on them at all times.
00:13:15.760 And that, obviously, is simply insane.
00:13:19.500 Now, here's the point.
00:13:22.320 When you have an influx of thousands of illegal immigrants from dozens of countries speaking hundreds of languages streaming across thousands of miles of border with no regard at all for our laws,
00:13:33.880 there is just no perfect or even near perfect or even totally sufficient way of dealing with the problem.
00:13:43.860 You know, we are being put in a literally impossible situation.
00:13:48.280 So it is very easy to sit in your house and insist that we should have the ability to recognize if any person who crosses the border is sick, even if they don't tell us.
00:14:00.400 And then we should have the ability to immediately provide them with medical treatment right there on the spot in the middle of the desert.
00:14:07.420 It's easy to say that.
00:14:09.760 But if you actually apply your brain to the situation, which I'm afraid the left does not often do when it comes to illegal immigration or, frankly, so many other issues as well.
00:14:22.680 But if you do that, if you just stop for a minute to think about it, think about it on a practical level.
00:14:28.300 And, you know, and I think that liberals often have a problem with it.
00:14:31.380 They often struggle to think of things practically.
00:14:34.000 Okay, put all, I know, you know, you could sit there and say it would be so nice if this and that, it would be nice.
00:14:40.400 It really would.
00:14:41.000 But let's just think of it practically on a real world kind of basis.
00:14:49.780 And if you do that, you will see that though it's easy to say that we should be equipped everywhere and always to deal with situations like this one.
00:15:05.840 It's easy to say that, but it's actually impossible to do.
00:15:08.700 We are in an impossible situation.
00:15:11.040 And that's just it.
00:15:15.920 And when you're put in an impossible situation, then it's just all you can do is make the best of it.
00:15:25.440 And it sounds to me, again, based on, maybe there are details here that will change everything.
00:15:31.880 And we just, we haven't been told those details.
00:15:33.860 Maybe.
00:15:35.300 I kind of doubt it, but maybe.
00:15:37.800 All we can do is go based on the information that we have.
00:15:40.560 Information that most of which is not actually disputed by anyone.
00:15:44.840 In fact, I'm not even sure.
00:15:47.160 The liberals who are blaming, and even after reading this article and many others that are making this case,
00:15:52.780 and seeing all these liberals blaming Border Patrol, I'm not actually sure what, it's not clear to me what exactly they're blaming Border Patrol for.
00:16:06.920 In their minds, what did Border Patrol do wrong?
00:16:10.940 What would they have them do instead?
00:16:13.060 That still isn't clear to me.
00:16:16.220 You know, I'm talking about these undisputed facts.
00:16:18.500 What are the disputed facts?
00:16:20.100 For all the leftists, what's your point here?
00:16:24.420 What do you, what would you have them do?
00:16:28.120 Can you, do you have a suggestion?
00:16:30.780 If it's not something as crazy as the situation that I just outlined,
00:16:36.160 that would require an army of tens of thousands of translators carrying millions of forms,
00:16:43.060 patrolling thousands of miles of border.
00:16:44.480 If that's not what you're talking about, then what are you talking about?
00:16:48.060 If you're looking at this, you know, on, again, practical terms, real world, how should this have been dealt with?
00:16:56.980 Because it seems to me, based on what we know, that it was dealt with as, as well as it could be.
00:17:02.660 They were given water.
00:17:06.680 They were asked, is anyone sick?
00:17:08.180 They were told no.
00:17:09.320 They had to wait for a few hours for a bus to show up.
00:17:12.000 They're in the middle of, you know, a remote stretch of, of, of, of the border.
00:17:16.600 Things take time.
00:17:17.720 So they had to wait.
00:17:18.640 They put them on a bus.
00:17:19.940 It was only a 90 minute ride.
00:17:21.300 And then when it was clear she was in a, she was in a, she was in a bad medical state, they, they gave her treatment.
00:17:26.380 I mean, what else are they supposed to do?
00:17:30.840 But this is the story, especially when it comes to immigration and the left,
00:17:34.860 that they're full of criticisms and they're full of complaints,
00:17:37.360 but they never have any suggestions for a better way of handling it.
00:17:41.740 They never do.
00:17:42.700 And that's the way it always goes.
00:17:43.860 All right.
00:17:45.540 So, uh, I want you to recall this past Halloween and there was a raging debate online,
00:17:53.980 just as there was the year before.
00:17:56.120 And there's a version of this debate every year, of course,
00:17:58.380 but there was a, there was a raging debate about whether it was cultural appropriation
00:18:02.300 for little white girls to wear Moana costumes.
00:18:05.200 Um, and the general feeling among many liberals, of course, is that, uh, was, and is that, uh, that yes,
00:18:13.100 it is appropriation that white girls should not wear Moana costumes.
00:18:16.160 It's appropriation for your eight-year-old daughter to wear a Disney costume.
00:18:19.900 Why?
00:18:20.780 Because Moana, the fictional character is in that fantasy world, Polynesian.
00:18:26.460 And if your daughter is not Polynesian, then she is appropriating a, um, a fictional characters,
00:18:32.560 uh, ethnicity.
00:18:35.200 Now, I want you to hold that thought in your mind for a moment.
00:18:43.100 As we consider the Miss Universe pageant last night.
00:18:46.720 Okay.
00:18:47.760 Miss Philippines, I believe, won the competition.
00:18:53.040 Um, but, so congratulations to her.
00:18:57.020 But the big news, the thing that got all the attention is that Miss Spain, Miss Spain,
00:19:03.580 was the first ever transgender Miss Universe contestant.
00:19:07.380 That is, he was the first man to compete in this women's competition.
00:19:13.140 Which brings me back to a point that I feel I have to repeat 10 times a week, um, because
00:19:18.640 I just can't, I can't help myself and I can't let them get away with this kind of thing without
00:19:24.980 pointing out the irony and hypocrisy of it.
00:19:27.620 If, if, if appropriation is even a thing at all, then this has to be appropriation, right?
00:19:37.460 And, and this is not just a man competing in Miss Universe.
00:19:41.760 This is not just an example of appropriation.
00:19:45.180 Um, this isn't just one version of appropriation.
00:19:48.560 This is quintessential appropriation.
00:19:50.800 This is what the word appropriation was invented to describe a man traipsing around in a bikini,
00:19:58.560 claiming to be a woman, intruding on a female competition in the process, depriving a real
00:20:03.680 woman of the chance to be Miss Universe and also taking the attention and spotlight away
00:20:08.260 from all the real women who are competing.
00:20:10.320 Miss Philippines is not getting all the headlines today.
00:20:12.700 The headlines is going to a, to Miss Spain.
00:20:16.140 Who's not even a miss.
00:20:17.220 Miss, see the thing about, um, the kind of appropriation that your daughter supposedly
00:20:25.300 does with her Disney costume is that she's not directly hurting or affecting anyone.
00:20:32.020 Okay.
00:20:33.260 Uh, it's not like she dressed up as Moana.
00:20:36.700 So that means that some Polynesian girl can't.
00:20:40.240 Okay.
00:20:41.180 Maybe you'd have a case.
00:20:42.580 Maybe there'd be a case.
00:20:43.220 If there was only one Moana costume in the world, just one, and, uh, and a, a little
00:20:51.620 white girl from Nebraska scooped it up so that a Polynesian girl couldn't have it, then
00:20:57.360 maybe you'd almost have a case of appropriation there because that's what appropriation is.
00:21:03.780 When you appropriate something, you are, it's not, you, you're not just taking part in it
00:21:10.140 or participating because if all you're doing is participating or taking part, then it's just
00:21:16.180 participation.
00:21:16.640 It's not appropriation.
00:21:18.160 Okay.
00:21:18.500 There's a difference between participation and appropriation.
00:21:22.040 And so much of what we call appropriation is actually merely just participation.
00:21:27.580 It's just a person partaking in this thing to appropriate means that you are depriving
00:21:34.680 someone else of something that is rightfully theirs.
00:21:37.940 You are taking it away from them.
00:21:42.080 Okay.
00:21:42.680 And, and so most of what we call cultural appropriation is not cultural.
00:21:47.380 It's not appropriation of any kind because it's not being taken away from anyone.
00:21:51.580 If a white person listens to rap music, uh, they aren't taking anything away from black
00:21:56.940 people.
00:21:58.220 In fact, if anything, they're contributing, they're contributing.
00:22:00.860 Uh, I mean, the rap industry is, is, is kept afloat in large part by white people who, who
00:22:09.680 pay money for this music.
00:22:11.020 So they're not taking anything.
00:22:13.400 Um, but in this case and with the appropriation of womanhood, so often there is something actually
00:22:21.680 being taken away from women.
00:22:23.980 Okay.
00:22:24.720 So this guy is taking, is, is literally taking the place of a real woman, which means that
00:22:31.320 some real woman in Spain couldn't have that spot.
00:22:36.900 There can only be for, for each, uh, I'm pretty sure this is how the beauty pageants work, right?
00:22:41.600 Miss universe.
00:22:42.560 There can only be one representative of each country.
00:22:46.200 Uh, and presumably there are many beauty pageants, uh, many beautiful actual women in Spain and
00:22:56.620 none of them were allowed to be Miss Spain and compete for, for a chance to be Miss universe
00:23:01.060 because they gave that spot to a man.
00:23:03.060 So something was really being taken away from a woman in that case.
00:23:06.180 And on top of that, he's also getting the media attention, which, um, uh, which means a bunch of
00:23:12.180 real women will not.
00:23:13.080 He's appropriating some of the spotlight and the media attention that should be going to the winner
00:23:17.840 of the competition.
00:23:18.520 Who's a real woman.
00:23:20.240 And that's how it works with the appropriation of womanhood.
00:23:23.240 That's the difference.
00:23:24.760 It is real appropriation because something is being taken from women, whether it's a spot in a beauty
00:23:32.220 pageant or it's a gold medal and a track meet or it's privacy in the bathroom.
00:23:38.300 Something is being taken from women.
00:23:41.100 It's not just participation.
00:23:44.960 If a man decide, you know, wants to cross dress in his house and put on a blouse or something
00:23:50.000 and walk around, that's not, I guess we wouldn't really call that the, the, the appropriation
00:23:55.980 of womanhood necessarily.
00:23:57.520 Um, because nothing in that private situation is being taken from women.
00:24:03.420 But the moment that men insist on actually being counted as women publicly and in these, and
00:24:14.640 in competitions and in these formal environments, and when they insist on going into women's bathroom,
00:24:19.900 women's locker room, so on and so forth.
00:24:21.200 Now it is pro appropriation because you are taking something from women.
00:24:27.860 It may be a better, uh, a better, um,
00:24:32.500 analogy here of what real cultural appropriation, uh, or ethnic or racial appropriation would be.
00:24:41.400 Imagine if, um, for some reason, uh, some white woman from Delaware was participated in Miss Universe
00:24:54.560 as, uh, as, uh, as Miss Nigeria.
00:24:57.180 Okay.
00:24:57.760 Imagine that.
00:24:58.540 It was, uh, well, I think in that situation, everybody would be, there would be outrage across,
00:25:05.440 across the world at this kind of appropriation that this white, white woman doesn't even live in the country
00:25:11.020 is, you know, gets to compete and be Miss Nigeria.
00:25:15.460 We would all consider that cultural appropriation.
00:25:19.820 And that would really be cultural, because she's taking, she is, she is taking that spot
00:25:24.180 from an actual Nigerian woman.
00:25:26.680 And so in that case, although very often I don't get on board with the racial, cultural appropriation,
00:25:31.300 in that case, I would say, yeah, you know what?
00:25:32.960 There's appropriation.
00:25:35.280 Well, this is the exact same sort of thing.
00:25:39.980 But I would, I would argue it's even more insidious.
00:25:43.300 Because on top of the appropriation, there is the, as I always talk about, there is the
00:25:50.620 cheapening, um, of womanhood that happens as well with this kind of stuff.
00:25:58.680 Where a guy, uh, can put on a bikini and shave his legs or whatever, um, and walk down the
00:26:09.760 runway and we say, oh, it's a woman.
00:26:11.800 Well, on what, so, so that's all a woman is to you?
00:26:15.760 That's what you're saying.
00:26:16.660 That you're saying that that's all a woman is.
00:26:18.820 All a woman is, is just a, a, a person in a bikini and, and that's it.
00:26:23.840 That's, you know, you have reduced womanhood down to a bikini, which is the exact opposite
00:26:31.780 of what feminists have been saying and arguing and supposedly fighting for, for decades now.
00:26:37.280 So on top of the appropriation, there is the degradation and the cheapening of womanhood
00:26:43.420 that happens as well.
00:26:46.020 And you might say that is another thing that's being taken from woman, women.
00:26:50.040 And so that is another way that women are actually being hurt by this.
00:26:55.380 While I don't think anyone is actually hurt, if a, if a white frat guy wants to put on a
00:27:02.680 Native American headdress, uh, on Halloween, um, I don't, no one is actually being hurt by
00:27:12.260 that.
00:27:12.680 Not, nothing is being taken from anyone.
00:27:14.600 But in this case, people are being hurt and something is actually being taken away.
00:27:24.380 All, if you're on the left, all you have to do is just take your own principles, your
00:27:29.060 own arguments, just take them intact and simply apply them to these kinds of situations and
00:27:37.300 see what happens.
00:27:38.800 Because when you do that, you're going to find out that we're actually on the same side
00:27:41.880 when it comes, or we should be on the same side.
00:27:44.600 When it comes to this transgender stuff.
00:27:49.040 All right.
00:27:49.940 We'll leave it there.
00:27:51.060 Uh, thanks for watching everybody.
00:27:52.700 Thanks for listening.
00:27:53.560 Godspeed.
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