The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1636 - The Real Reason Democrats Are Panicking About Redistricting

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, we'll expose how a rigged census, racial gerrymandering, and decades of manipulation have given Democrats an unfair advantage in Congress, and why that whole system may soon be upended, and why Democrats are panicking about it.

00:00:11.620 Also, President Trump threatens to take control of D.C. to put a stop to the violent crime epidemic that has plagued the city.

00:00:17.660 And a high school history teacher argues that human sacrifice by indigenous people wasn't so bad, actually.

00:00:24.260 All of that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.

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00:02:06.920 One of the worst kept secrets in the government is that pretty much all of the data we have is really just an estimate at best, and that estimate is usually wrong.

00:02:16.240 The approximate number of illegal aliens in this country has been locked at 11 million for about 20 years, which is a pretty big clue that the number is a gigantic lie.

00:02:24.960 And when we learned the other day that the jobs report was supposedly wronged by hundreds of thousands of jobs, it was yet another indicator that the people who compile important data are, at a minimum, winging it.

00:02:36.100 More likely, they're committing fraud.

00:02:37.860 I mean, that's all pretty obvious.

00:02:39.720 What you may not know, even though it's a very big deal, is that the U.S. census is just as inaccurate as every other government data dump.

00:02:47.860 And this matters a great deal because the census determines how many seats each party receives in the House of Representatives.

00:02:55.320 And as a result of a massive counting error that took place back in 2020, error in quotes, Democrats have several more seats in Congress than they actually deserve.

00:03:06.440 Now, to be clear, Democrats already receive a massive advantage in the census because illegal aliens are counted.

00:03:11.660 But on top of that, the census also added millions of phantom people to the tally, people who don't exist.

00:03:18.560 No one really talks about this, but it's very well documented and uncontroversial.

00:03:23.180 Even NPR ran a story admitting it.

00:03:25.820 Here's the chart they provided, which came directly from the U.S. Census Bureau.

00:03:29.000 And see if you notice anything about which states in particular were accidentally overcounted.

00:03:34.720 You see, Hawaii was overcounted by 6.8%, meaning, according to the Census Bureau, that some people may have been counted in error or more than once.

00:03:44.840 New York, population 19 million, was overcounted by 3.4%, which is something like 700,000 people, which just so happens to be the size of an entire congressional district.

00:03:53.660 What a coincidence.

00:03:54.980 Massachusetts was overcounted by 2.2%.

00:03:57.060 Minnesota was overcounted by 3.8%.

00:03:59.180 Delaware and Rhode Island were also overcounted.

00:04:01.820 And all of these states, you may have noticed, are dominated by Democrats, and most of them have a lot of electoral votes.

00:04:09.960 And by contrast, only two Republican states were overcounted, Utah and Ohio.

00:04:14.400 And then look at the very long list of states that were undercounted.

00:04:18.260 Texas was undercounted by nearly 2%, Florida by 3.5%, Mississippi by 4%, Tennessee by 5%, Arkansas by 5%.

00:04:27.120 These discrepancies are not normal.

00:04:29.940 In fact, in the 2010 census, the Bureau found that zero states were undercounted or overcounted.

00:04:35.520 But in 2020, all of a sudden, the census was extremely inaccurate.

00:04:40.580 And what do you know?

00:04:41.580 The inaccuracy benefited Democrats in Congress because they picked up several seats they didn't deserve.

00:04:47.480 But when he was asked about this, the census director said, and I quote,

00:04:51.500 no census is perfect, shrug of shoulders, in other words, deal with it, is how it is.

00:04:59.260 It's just a fact of life that Democrats get a significant number of extra seats in Congress.

00:05:03.820 See you at the next census in 10 years.

00:05:06.720 Now, whether you choose to believe the census count was a mistake or not,

00:05:11.140 and I certainly don't believe that it was a mistake, it doesn't really matter.

00:05:14.460 The fact remains that Republicans have systematically been cheated out of representation in Congress.

00:05:19.040 To be clear, I'm not talking about gerrymandering, which means drawing congressional maps so you help your side and hurt your opponent.

00:05:27.060 That's an inevitable part of the political process.

00:05:29.380 After all, somebody has to draw the maps at the end of the day,

00:05:32.140 and it's simply impossible to find a truly nonpartisan person to do the job.

00:05:36.660 Those don't exist.

00:05:37.320 And if you doubt that, take a look at California, which supposedly has a nonpartisan procedure for drawing districts.

00:05:43.180 Republicans took 40% of the vote in California in the last election, but they won just 12 seats, while Democrats took home 40.

00:05:51.320 Additionally, gerrymandering is also completely legal, as long as you're not drawing the line specifically to exclude a specific racial group.

00:05:59.160 Instead, I'm talking about successful efforts by Democrats to cheat Republicans out of seats that they're clearly entitled to under the Constitution.

00:06:07.320 That's been going on for a very long time, thanks to the census, and no one has done anything about it.

00:06:13.000 And that's why, if I'm being honest, I can't bring myself to care about Democrats' recent complaints about what the state of Texas is doing to redraw its congressional districts.

00:06:22.040 The president has said that the GOP is entitled to five more seats in Texas.

00:06:25.600 For his part, Texas' governor has openly admitted that the new planned congressional map in Texas is political in nature, which, again, is a normal part of the process.

00:06:35.100 And in response, Democrat state legislators in Texas have fled the state, you may have heard about, which prevents a vote on the new map.

00:06:44.240 Meanwhile, other Democrats' states are threatening to gerrymander their districts in retaliation.

00:06:49.700 Watch.

00:06:50.900 The fight over redistricting in Texas has exploded into a full-blown national standoff.

00:06:59.440 Members, a quorum is not present.

00:07:02.820 Democrats have fled the state, blocking a vote on a Trump-backed map that would add more Republican seats ahead of the 2026 midterms.

00:07:11.840 The GOP-led House issued arrest warrants for the missing lawmakers who are staying in Illinois and New York with the support of those state's governors.

00:07:22.320 Texas Governor Greg Abbott defended the redistricting plan on Fox News, openly acknowledging the partisan nature of the map.

00:07:30.860 Gerrymandering can be done or drawing lines can be done on the basis of political makeup, as in Republican versus Democrat.

00:07:39.480 And there's nothing illegal about that.

00:07:41.560 And then when you look at the outcome of the most recent presidential election, all these districts that are being added are districts that were won by Trump.

00:07:50.380 There's some honesty from Greg Abbott in that clip, which you don't see very often from politicians.

00:07:54.180 He just comes out and admits that, yeah, Republicans are trying to gerrymander.

00:07:57.880 And they're, you know, gerrymandering Texas on the basis of political makeup.

00:08:01.320 And that makes sense.

00:08:02.140 Every party does this.

00:08:03.520 It's both legal and rational to do so.

00:08:05.740 So it's time to stop pretending otherwise and to stop imagining a world where one political party will voluntarily help another party get elected out of, like, good sportsmanship or something.

00:08:16.620 That doesn't exist.

00:08:17.680 That world does not exist.

00:08:18.660 Will never exist.

00:08:19.340 Never has existed.

00:08:20.240 Period.

00:08:20.640 Let it go.

00:08:21.120 If I had the patience to entertain any of the counter arguments on this point, this is the part of the monologue where I'd point out how horribly disfigured all of the Democrats' congressional maps are compared to the planned map in Texas.

00:08:34.780 I'd show you how Democrats for years have intentionally carved out absurd districts so that they dominate House races in states like Illinois and California.

00:08:42.620 We'll throw some of those maps up on the screen in case you need the visual.

00:08:47.400 As you can see, in addition to rigging the election in California, Democrats also manipulated congressional maps in several other states.

00:08:53.560 Illinois is a great example.

00:08:55.420 Democrats currently have more than 80 percent of the House seats, despite Kamala Harris receiving only around 55 percent of the vote.

00:09:01.860 Democrats also gerrymandered Oregon into oblivion.

00:09:04.420 They won more than 80 percent of the House seats, despite Kamala barely getting over 50 percent of the vote there, primarily by quadruple counting the city of Portland.

00:09:13.080 Meanwhile, Democrats took home more than 70 percent of the House seats in New York, despite winning only around 50 percent of the vote, and on and on and on.

00:09:21.300 None of this is surprising, nor is it worth exploring in any great detail.

00:09:25.820 Everyone knows this is going on.

00:09:27.220 Democrats gerrymander all the time.

00:09:30.100 So why would there be any outrage whatsoever about the fact that Republicans are doing the same thing?

00:09:34.420 Why are Democrats out of nowhere in a frenzy about congressional districts?

00:09:39.640 That's the really interesting question.

00:09:41.220 The answer involves the Voting Rights Act, which was passed in the 1960s alongside other civil rights legislation.

00:09:47.820 And just like other civil rights legislation, the point of the Voting Rights Act was never to ensure equality among the races.

00:09:54.280 Instead, the objective was to grant special status to certain demographics, particularly black people.

00:09:59.140 On the theory that, as Henry Rogers, a.k.a.

00:10:02.460 Ibram X.

00:10:02.920 Kennedy so eloquently put it, the only remedy to pass discrimination is more discrimination.

00:10:08.920 And to that end, the Voting Rights Act has been used for generations to strike down congressional maps that don't have enough so-called majority-minority districts, meaning districts where white people are in the minority.

00:10:18.620 In other words, states have been forced, because of the Voting Rights Act, to create congressional districts where so-called minorities are in the majority, no matter how absurd the boundaries of that district might be.

00:10:30.620 It goes without saying that because black people vote for Democrats at an average rate of about 9 to 1, this has been a massive built-in political advantage for Democrats since the 1960s.

00:10:41.740 But that advantage may soon be gone.

00:10:44.820 That's because the Supreme Court has just agreed to hear a challenge to Louisiana's new congressional map.

00:10:49.300 This is a case that could upend the entire Voting Rights Act regime.

00:10:54.280 Essentially, what happened is that Louisiana wanted to have a congressional map with only one majority black district.

00:11:01.960 And so they drew the map at the beginning of last year.

00:11:05.780 And here's what that map looked like.

00:11:07.800 And you'll notice the map looks pretty reasonable.

00:11:10.300 At the very least, there are no extremely odd shapes.

00:11:13.760 When they came up with this map, Louisiana claimed that they were not discriminating on the basis of race.

00:11:18.580 But Democrats disagreed because Louisiana is roughly one-third black and there was only one majority black district.

00:11:24.520 Meanwhile, Louisiana maintained that it was drawing the district boundaries for political reasons, which, again, is legal.

00:11:31.340 But a federal court disagreed and ordered Louisiana to go back to the drawing board and come up with one more black majority district, or rather to come up with more, not just one more, but to come up with additional black majority districts.

00:11:45.100 So Louisiana then added a second majority black district.

00:11:49.060 And here's what the new map looked like.

00:11:51.660 They added the district in light green, which snakes across the entire state.

00:11:56.780 And you could see immediately how much stranger this map is as compared to the original.

00:12:01.460 The light green district in particular, which is District 6, stands out.

00:12:06.080 It's like a knife that cuts through the map.

00:12:08.300 In case you need a clearer visual, here's a black and white version.

00:12:12.460 The new district doesn't remotely take into account any natural features like the Mississippi River or the Red River.

00:12:18.520 It is a very odd shape.

00:12:19.660 It spans hundreds of miles across swamps and urban centers that have nothing in common with each other, whether it's religion or economic interests or anything else.

00:12:28.120 The only reason that this new district exists very clearly is to include as many black people as possible.

00:12:35.120 This is the madness that the Voting Rights Act has mandated for many decades now.

00:12:39.660 It's a system that goes out of its way to disenfranchise white people in the name of civil rights, quote unquote, and racial justice.

00:12:47.180 But in a matter of months, this could all change.

00:12:50.660 And that's because a group of plaintiffs who simply identify as not black sued Louisiana over this new map,

00:12:56.760 alleging that the Voting Rights Act, as it's being applied, is unconstitutional, which it is.

00:13:03.380 And a panel of judges on a separate federal court in Louisiana agreed in a two-to-one opinion, quoting from their opinion,

00:13:08.840 District 6 divides the four large cities and metropolitan areas in its path along clearly racial lines.

00:13:14.480 Among these are three of the four largest cities in Louisiana, Baton Rouge, Lafayette, and Shreveport.

00:13:20.740 And the maps in the record are clear that the division of these communities is based predominantly on the location of majority black voting precincts.

00:13:28.480 While now the Supreme Court has agreed to hear arguments on this case, with the decision expected sometime next year,

00:13:36.160 if they overturn the idea that the Voting Rights Act mandates the creation of majority black districts,

00:13:41.780 it will be an unmitigated disaster for Democrats.

00:13:45.360 It would remove the single greatest weapon they have in their effort to control the House of Representatives.

00:13:50.420 That's why J.B. Pritzker, Gavin Newsom, other prominent Democrats are pretending to be outraged about gerrymandering and redistricting,

00:13:58.100 stuff that, again, they do all the time in places like Louisiana and Texas.

00:14:02.300 They're not concerned that Republicans are about to do the exact same thing that Democrats do, again, all the time.

00:14:08.100 Instead, Democrats' actual concern is that these states and every other state

00:14:11.340 will come up with new congressional maps that don't discriminate against white people.

00:14:15.880 These politicians aren't going to say that out loud, of course, but it's pretty obvious if you listen to them for a few seconds.

00:14:22.520 Here's J.B. Pritzker, for example.

00:14:23.880 He oversees one of the most gerrymandered states in the entire country.

00:14:28.020 But in this clip, he's outraged that Republicans supposedly are going to silence minority voters.

00:14:33.500 Watch.

00:14:34.280 So Trump came up with a new scheme, rigged the system,

00:14:37.440 by ramming through a corrupt mid-decade redistricting plan that would steal five congressional seats,

00:14:44.240 silencing millions of voices, especially black and Latino voters.

00:14:50.300 Now, the argument is that by removing a racial quota system that arbitrarily benefits non-whites,

00:14:54.800 Republicans are supposedly silencing minorities.

00:14:57.520 It's similar to the argument that merit-based hiring and merit-based school admissions policies are somehow bigoted.

00:15:03.800 The moment you remove a race-based classification,

00:15:06.480 Democrats complain that you're trying to target a particular race, which makes no sense.

00:15:09.860 And that's one reason among many why no race-based classification should ever exist.

00:15:15.420 Aside from the fact that it's immoral,

00:15:17.740 once these kinds of classifications are granted,

00:15:19.760 the demographic that benefits and the political party that benefits will never let you take it away.

00:15:27.160 It's all extremely insulting to our intelligence.

00:15:30.100 And yet, J.B. Pritzker is actually one of the saner Democrats to speak about this issue.

00:15:33.800 The other day, Texas lawmaker Jolanda Jones, after fleeing to Illinois, compared the redistricting debate to the Holocaust.

00:15:41.900 And Don Lemon, of course, nodded along.

00:15:44.740 Watch.

00:15:45.360 And then integration happened and everybody thought they accept us.

00:15:48.500 They don't accept us.

00:15:49.800 They are showing us who they are.

00:15:51.360 We should believe them.

00:15:52.580 And we better have the courage to stand up.

00:15:54.580 Otherwise, we will fall for anything.

00:15:56.420 And in this country, we will be defeated, deported.

00:15:59.980 I mean, we will lose all of our rights.

00:16:02.120 And if you think it can't happen, it can.

00:16:04.500 And I will liken this to the Holocaust.

00:16:06.060 People are like, well, how did the Holocaust happen?

00:16:08.440 How is somebody in a position to kill all them people?

00:16:11.060 Well, good people remain silent.

00:16:13.340 Or good people didn't realize that what happens to them can very soon happen to me or somebody I love.

00:16:19.700 And so even if you made it, man, you have an obligation to help people who can't.

00:16:24.940 Because, God forbid, they end up targeting you and your family.

00:16:29.240 In case it's not obvious, this is extreme stupidity.

00:16:31.980 But it's also desperation.

00:16:33.620 As far as the raw political calculus here, Democrats know that they're in trouble.

00:16:38.020 This is from the New York Times the other day.

00:16:39.720 Quote, in truth, Republicans may have more cards to play in an all-out redistricting war in 2026 than Democrats do.

00:16:45.520 Republican leaders are looking to redraw maps in Missouri, Indiana, and Ohio, as well as Texas, and perhaps in more states as well.

00:16:52.200 Vice President J.D. Vance plans to visit Indiana to discuss the push on Thursday.

00:16:56.560 The state's Republican governor, Mike Braun, told reporters on Tuesday,

00:16:59.280 In the meantime, House maps and redistricting laws in Democratic states present significant hurdles.

00:17:03.780 Illinois, for instance, is already so skewed to Democrats that flipping even one of the three Republican seats left would be extremely difficult for mapmakers.

00:17:13.220 Well, you hate to see that.

00:17:15.020 Democrats have already rigged the game so much that they're out of options to do any more rigging.

00:17:19.300 As a result, they've opted to shriek and confuse the issue as much as they possibly can.

00:17:24.320 But the truth is pretty simple.

00:17:25.640 Democrats have cheated in congressional elections for a very long time using a variety of illegal and unethical procedures.

00:17:31.440 And one by one, whether it's the Voting Rights Act or the mistakes in counting the census or the inclusion of illegal aliens in the census,

00:17:38.820 these pillars of Democrat power are under a full frontal attack.

00:17:42.380 The moment these pillars collapse, which could be very soon, the so-called party of democracy will face a crisis that could ultimately destroy the Democrat Party.

00:17:53.420 They'll finally discover, despite all their efforts to muddle the issue and manipulate elections,

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00:20:38.660 President Donald Trump, this is from Postmillennial, on Tuesday threatened to take federal control

00:20:43.500 of Washington, D.C. if it does not begin cleaning up crime in the city,

00:20:47.100 including prosecuting violent minor offenders as adults

00:20:50.420 after a former Department of Government efficiency worker was attacked

00:20:54.820 while defending a woman who was being attacked.

00:20:58.880 President Trump posted,

00:21:00.120 Crime in Washington, D.C. is totally out of control.

00:21:01.640 Local youths and gang members, some only 14, 15, and 16 years old,

00:21:05.500 are randomly attacking, mugging, maiming, and shooting innocent citizens

00:21:08.540 at the same time, knowing that they'll be almost immediately released.

00:21:11.620 They're not afraid of law enforcement because they know nothing ever happens to them,

00:21:14.280 but it's going to happen now.

00:21:15.260 The law in D.C. must be changed to prosecute these minors as adults

00:21:18.780 and lock them up for a long time, starting at age 14.

00:21:21.580 The most recent victim was beaten mercilessly by local thugs.

00:21:24.820 Washington, D.C. must be safe, clean, and beautiful for all Americans,

00:21:27.600 and importantly, for the world to see.

00:21:29.480 If D.C. doesn't get its act together, and quickly, this is still Trump,

00:21:32.440 and quickly, we will have no choice to take federal control of the city

00:21:35.600 and run the city how it should be run and put criminals on notice

00:21:38.520 that they're not going to get away with it anymore.

00:21:40.880 Perhaps it should have been done a long time ago.

00:21:44.400 This continues, I'm going to exert my powers and federalize the city,

00:21:47.680 make America great again.

00:21:49.560 So Trump is, it won't shock you to hear me, say exactly right about this.

00:21:54.020 This is exactly right.

00:21:55.220 And yes, any city, especially D.C., but any city that won't get its crime problem

00:21:59.980 under control, won't prosecute criminals and restore order,

00:22:03.900 should be taken over by the federal government.

00:22:06.180 This is a human rights issue.

00:22:07.640 Local governments that refuse to protect their citizens from violent criminals

00:22:11.060 are destroying the human rights of the law-abiding people of the community,

00:22:15.360 which does make it a federal issue.

00:22:18.840 This is actually one of the most fundamental rights that you have.

00:22:21.200 And that's not to say that you have the human right to never be the victim of a crime.

00:22:25.740 That's not exactly it.

00:22:26.680 Just because you're the victim of a crime doesn't mean that your rights,

00:22:29.440 well, your rights are violated by the criminal in that case,

00:22:33.500 but just because you're the victim of a crime doesn't mean that your rights

00:22:35.460 were violated by the system, by the government in every case.

00:22:41.080 But when the system, you know, if the government is doing all the reasonable

00:22:45.880 things that it needs to do to enforce the law,

00:22:48.600 and then you still end up getting your car stolen or carjacked or something,

00:22:52.500 well, that's not a human rights violation that was perpetrated on you by the government, right?

00:22:59.160 But when your local leaders, when the system aren't even attempting to punish criminals

00:23:04.180 and bring law and order to the community,

00:23:06.060 when in fact they're going out of their way to encourage and promote lawlessness

00:23:09.440 and to release violent criminals back onto the street,

00:23:12.700 knowing, very well knowing, of course, what that will mean,

00:23:15.380 then your rights are being violated by the government

00:23:20.880 because you have a right to be protected by the government.

00:23:24.900 You have a right to a government that maintains an orderly and civilized society.

00:23:28.420 I mean, that's why the government exists fundamentally.

00:23:31.380 Why do we have a government?

00:23:32.540 To maintain an orderly and civilized society.

00:23:37.720 And in America, we would say we also have a government to protect our basic rights.

00:23:42.100 But that's all part.

00:23:44.000 That's all under the umbrella of maintaining an orderly and civilized society.

00:23:49.860 And if the government is not doing that,

00:23:52.660 then essentially it's not legitimate.

00:23:55.400 It's not a legitimate government anymore.

00:23:58.760 So these leaders, so-called leaders of these cities,

00:24:01.820 these are not legitimate leaders.

00:24:03.260 They have no legitimacy whatsoever.

00:24:04.860 They are not doing the fundamental job that they're supposed to be doing.

00:24:08.740 They refuse to do it.

00:24:09.720 So Trump is right on this.

00:24:12.860 And as far as arresting 14-year-olds and putting them in prison for a long time,

00:24:16.500 again, yeah.

00:24:18.380 In fact, if I object to that at all, it's only because I'd go younger.

00:24:22.200 Honestly.

00:24:24.940 I think that, I think, you know,

00:24:26.800 certainly 14-year-olds, 13-year-olds

00:24:29.300 who commit violent crimes should be charged as adults.

00:24:33.700 You can make an argument for even younger than that.

00:24:38.700 And the argument really is, what other choice do we have?

00:24:41.880 Right?

00:24:42.700 Because the fact is, you have kids running around, terrorizing people,

00:24:45.740 committing violent crimes, assaulting, killing people, stealing, carjacking.

00:24:50.700 And these are kids that have not been raised at all.

00:24:53.600 Kids from homes that, to call their homes broken homes, I think, is understating it.

00:24:58.080 That's almost to undersell what's actually happening.

00:25:02.040 These are non-existent homes.

00:25:03.580 These are homes where the dad is not anywhere to be found, of course.

00:25:07.040 And mom is just as much of a negligent scumbag as the dad,

00:25:11.540 doing absolutely nothing to attend to the moral formation of the kids.

00:25:15.340 So, I just saw a video the other day, in fact, of, I don't know when it's from or where,

00:25:22.560 but some kids that were walking out of, I think it was like a Walgreens,

00:25:28.120 with just whole huge bags of stuff that they were stealing.

00:25:33.520 And these kids look like they were, you know, I don't know, 12, 13, 14,

00:25:40.060 maybe even younger than that.

00:25:41.060 And then they do a follow-up video, after the video went viral,

00:25:47.280 saying that, you know, they don't care what anyone thinks,

00:25:51.080 and also emphasizing the fact that, because I guess they saw these kids,

00:25:56.800 these were black kids, they saw that they, so it's in the inner city somewhere,

00:26:00.780 I don't know where,

00:26:02.860 the kids saw that people were leaving comments,

00:26:06.800 accusing them of being poor and broke.

00:26:09.320 And that's what they were upset about.

00:26:12.500 So, they issued a response,

00:26:14.840 saying that they're not broke,

00:26:16.600 and they're not even buying food.

00:26:18.140 They didn't even need this stuff.

00:26:19.440 They're just stealing it because they can.

00:26:22.060 Now, you guys are the broke ones.

00:26:25.760 So, the point is,

00:26:27.060 where are the parents in all this?

00:26:29.020 Who knows?

00:26:30.220 I mean, we can assume dad's not there.

00:26:31.920 Where's mom?

00:26:34.000 Just, no, she might be there physically,

00:26:36.140 but she's not a mom.

00:26:37.440 So, what do you do?

00:26:41.220 What do you do about this?

00:26:42.660 What do you do about violent criminal kids?

00:26:47.440 Well, you have three options, it seems to me.

00:26:50.040 None of them are good.

00:26:51.460 Like, none of them are ideal,

00:26:52.980 because ideally, you wouldn't have this problem.

00:26:56.120 One is to do nothing.

00:26:57.380 Just let them run free.

00:26:58.500 And that's the tact that's been chosen in D.C.

00:27:00.920 and many other cities.

00:27:01.980 It's obviously been a disaster.

00:27:03.280 Horrible for the law-abiding citizens of the community.

00:27:07.340 Not good for the criminal kids, either.

00:27:09.640 Because they just get worse and worse

00:27:11.120 until eventually they die in a gang shooting

00:27:13.400 or a drug overdose,

00:27:14.480 or they end up in prison anyway at some point

00:27:16.540 after wreaking havoc for another 5, 10 years.

00:27:20.660 And then they end up in prison.

00:27:22.560 But that's where it ends up.

00:27:24.940 The kids in that video that I'm talking about,

00:27:28.060 what happens?

00:27:28.420 Is there, like, what are the chances

00:27:30.980 that those kids are still alive at the age of 40, let's say?

00:27:34.560 What are the chances?

00:27:36.380 Very low.

00:27:37.180 We all know that.

00:27:38.480 What are the chances that they're alive and thriving

00:27:40.960 and, you know, married and have jobs

00:27:45.000 and are contributing members of the community?

00:27:47.600 What are the chances?

00:27:48.740 That by 40, they're, I mean, almost non-existent.

00:27:53.340 And I mean, there's always hope.

00:27:54.520 I don't want to say there's no hope,

00:27:55.520 but less than 1%.

00:27:57.740 Very, I mean, much less than 1%.

00:28:00.620 So, and that's,

00:28:04.020 but that's what happens when you do nothing.

00:28:05.600 When you don't hold anybody accountable,

00:28:07.640 you are not only leaving,

00:28:11.960 you're not only abandoning

00:28:13.500 the law-abiding citizens of the community,

00:28:15.700 but these criminal kids

00:28:18.360 who you're supposedly concerned about

00:28:19.780 and you're being so compassionate towards,

00:28:21.280 you are condemning them

00:28:22.600 to an almost certainly brief,

00:28:26.560 violent, miserable life.

00:28:31.060 So, that's not going to work.

00:28:34.040 The other option is to lock the kids up

00:28:36.080 in a juvenile detention center

00:28:37.240 until they turn 18.

00:28:39.240 And we know that happens a lot.

00:28:41.500 What does that accomplish?

00:28:43.340 Well, you get them off the street

00:28:44.560 for a couple of years,

00:28:45.440 so you don't have to worry about them,

00:28:46.780 right, for a couple of years.

00:28:51.520 But then they spend that time

00:28:55.060 marinating in an environment

00:28:56.720 with kids that are even worse than them,

00:29:00.740 and they come out as adults now

00:29:03.580 even more depraved and violent

00:29:05.820 and devoted to a life of crime.

00:29:07.260 How many 18-year-old adults,

00:29:11.560 how many 18-year-old young adults,

00:29:14.380 newly minted adults,

00:29:15.800 come out of juvenile detention,

00:29:18.940 reformed,

00:29:20.600 and ready to, you know,

00:29:22.200 go to college,

00:29:23.660 or maybe go to a trade school

00:29:24.740 and become a plumber?

00:29:25.860 How many?

00:29:27.840 What's the percentage on that?

00:29:30.080 Well, you can look it up,

00:29:31.500 but I'm guessing it's very low.

00:29:35.000 Very, very low.

00:29:35.940 So, those are the two options,

00:29:39.260 and most cities

00:29:40.720 and our culture,

00:29:42.320 society generally

00:29:43.040 has always chosen

00:29:44.400 one of those two.

00:29:45.300 Do nothing

00:29:45.740 or just put them

00:29:46.440 in juvenile detention,

00:29:47.480 which really is worse

00:29:48.300 than nothing, honestly.

00:29:50.040 So,

00:29:50.660 what does that leave you with?

00:29:52.720 It leaves you with a third option,

00:29:54.100 which is that

00:29:54.840 when a kid,

00:29:57.020 let's say 13 and above,

00:30:00.100 12 and above,

00:30:02.280 when a kid commits

00:30:03.680 a violent crime,

00:30:04.500 you lock him away

00:30:07.520 in prison

00:30:07.960 for a very long time.

00:30:13.740 Decades.

00:30:15.100 Okay?

00:30:16.560 The kids who assaulted

00:30:18.080 the doge worker,

00:30:20.100 big balls,

00:30:22.100 as he has previously been known,

00:30:25.400 I believe this is the same guy.

00:30:27.080 Yeah, it's the same guy.

00:30:27.960 But the kid,

00:30:30.940 who apparently,

00:30:31.740 this young man

00:30:34.460 who was,

00:30:37.100 you know,

00:30:37.380 according to reports,

00:30:38.240 I think we covered

00:30:39.040 in that report,

00:30:40.160 he was acting

00:30:41.560 very bravely

00:30:42.220 and protecting someone else

00:30:43.480 who had been assaulted.

00:30:46.900 And,

00:30:47.180 I'm like,

00:30:48.240 what is his actual name?

00:30:50.640 Edward

00:30:51.160 Coristine.

00:30:53.000 Okay.

00:30:54.140 So,

00:30:54.360 in a story like this,

00:30:55.020 let's refer to him

00:30:55.580 as his actual name.

00:30:56.740 Edward Coristine

00:30:57.340 is his name.

00:30:58.180 So anyway,

00:30:58.640 those kids who assaulted him,

00:31:00.840 what do you do with them?

00:31:02.820 A couple of them

00:31:03.260 have already been arrested.

00:31:05.960 Well,

00:31:06.360 you round them up

00:31:07.060 and you throw them in prison,

00:31:08.100 not for years,

00:31:08.840 but for decades.

00:31:10.460 These kids,

00:31:11.080 I think,

00:31:11.300 are 15,

00:31:11.800 16 years old.

00:31:13.360 Put them in jail

00:31:13.820 for 20 years,

00:31:15.280 if not longer.

00:31:17.500 And that way,

00:31:18.180 they're off the street

00:31:18.940 and,

00:31:19.620 and so,

00:31:20.840 they're off the street

00:31:21.280 for a significant period

00:31:22.580 of time,

00:31:23.420 so we don't have

00:31:24.460 to worry about them.

00:31:25.140 And you've established

00:31:28.560 a very real deterrent

00:31:30.380 because right now

00:31:31.240 there is no

00:31:31.940 deterrent factor.

00:31:34.000 And this is why

00:31:34.700 I have no patience

00:31:35.400 for people to say,

00:31:36.000 well,

00:31:36.240 studies show

00:31:36.840 that deterrence

00:31:37.500 doesn't work.

00:31:38.240 You can't,

00:31:38.840 it's impossible.

00:31:40.440 Right?

00:31:40.640 These sociologists

00:31:42.020 who tell us this,

00:31:43.640 these academics,

00:31:45.340 constantly telling us

00:31:47.800 that everything

00:31:48.160 that our common sense,

00:31:48.940 everything our common sense

00:31:49.840 intuition tells us

00:31:50.640 is wrong.

00:31:51.140 all of the evidence

00:31:52.800 that we find

00:31:53.340 just by looking

00:31:53.920 at history,

00:31:55.060 all of it is just wrong.

00:31:56.300 Turns out,

00:31:56.860 it's all just wrong.

00:31:59.420 Basic common sense,

00:32:00.600 human nature,

00:32:01.820 the testimony

00:32:02.400 of the history

00:32:03.340 of human civilization

00:32:04.120 all tells us

00:32:05.000 that deterrence

00:32:06.600 is a thing,

00:32:07.720 that people are,

00:32:09.080 respond to incentives

00:32:10.640 and disincentives.

00:32:12.640 That's human nature.

00:32:14.400 It's not just human nature,

00:32:15.320 it's nature.

00:32:16.180 I mean,

00:32:17.100 this is,

00:32:17.380 this is cats

00:32:18.380 and dogs

00:32:18.980 and mice

00:32:19.680 and human beings

00:32:20.820 have this in common,

00:32:22.300 that they respond

00:32:23.860 to incentives

00:32:24.540 and disincentives.

00:32:27.740 So if deterrence

00:32:28.840 doesn't work now,

00:32:30.600 it's because there is

00:32:31.240 no deterrent.

00:32:31.820 It's because

00:32:32.240 it doesn't exist.

00:32:33.720 We haven't tried it

00:32:34.480 or less,

00:32:35.260 we gave up on it.

00:32:38.240 And now we say,

00:32:39.240 oh, well,

00:32:39.800 prison is not

00:32:40.620 a good deterrence.

00:32:41.580 Yeah,

00:32:41.860 because they know

00:32:42.920 that they'll go to prison,

00:32:43.960 they'll be there

00:32:44.420 for like a year

00:32:45.400 and they'll come out.

00:32:46.820 It doesn't work

00:32:47.680 in that case.

00:32:49.680 The death penalty

00:32:50.700 is not a deterrence.

00:32:51.940 Yeah,

00:32:52.200 when you execute

00:32:52.800 somebody 40 years later,

00:32:55.500 there was somebody

00:32:56.280 executed just yesterday.

00:32:57.860 There was a story

00:32:58.260 this week,

00:32:59.140 there was a story

00:32:59.700 about how his,

00:33:01.300 this is a guy

00:33:02.920 that I believe

00:33:04.540 in 1988

00:33:05.420 murdered a woman,

00:33:07.180 his girlfriend

00:33:07.580 and two children.

00:33:09.640 40 years later,

00:33:10.720 they're finally

00:33:11.380 executing him.

00:33:12.320 And we're supposed

00:33:13.060 to feel upset about it

00:33:14.160 because apparently

00:33:14.940 they're worried

00:33:16.000 that he might have

00:33:16.440 felt some pain.

00:33:18.000 That maybe the drugs

00:33:18.700 didn't work,

00:33:19.440 right?

00:33:19.720 That he felt

00:33:20.520 some pain.

00:33:21.060 Oh,

00:33:21.200 God forbid.

00:33:23.280 God forbid

00:33:23.880 that this monster

00:33:24.820 who earned

00:33:25.580 his punishment

00:33:26.200 for murdering

00:33:27.440 three people,

00:33:28.140 including two kids,

00:33:28.880 God forbid

00:33:29.200 that he's uncomfortable

00:33:30.100 while we're,

00:33:30.800 while we're killing him.

00:33:31.860 I mean,

00:33:32.060 it's totally,

00:33:32.760 it's,

00:33:32.980 it's,

00:33:33.620 it's,

00:33:35.320 uh,

00:33:35.860 grotesque,

00:33:37.740 really.

00:33:40.480 But,

00:33:40.940 you know,

00:33:42.160 we'll look at cases

00:33:42.760 like that

00:33:43.180 and we'll say,

00:33:43.600 oh,

00:33:43.660 it's not a deterrence.

00:33:44.380 Yeah,

00:33:44.820 because you waited

00:33:45.440 40 years.

00:33:48.160 Okay,

00:33:48.740 it doesn't,

00:33:49.400 yeah,

00:33:49.500 you can't use

00:33:50.100 a deterrence

00:33:50.560 40 years

00:33:51.260 in the future.

00:33:54.080 Every,

00:33:54.700 every,

00:33:55.220 like,

00:33:57.080 look at this

00:33:57.500 on a really personal,

00:33:58.560 take violent crime

00:33:59.580 and,

00:33:59.880 and prison

00:34:00.560 and execution

00:34:01.200 out of it.

00:34:03.260 But just the concept

00:34:04.520 of deterrence,

00:34:05.740 incentive

00:34:06.220 and disincentive,

00:34:07.400 uh,

00:34:08.160 on a really small

00:34:09.280 personal scale,

00:34:10.720 every parent

00:34:11.760 knows about this.

00:34:12.720 that when you

00:34:14.660 have children,

00:34:15.520 that if they,

00:34:16.480 if they misbehave

00:34:17.800 and you tell them

00:34:19.740 that three weeks

00:34:21.000 from now,

00:34:21.560 you're going to

00:34:22.420 regret it,

00:34:23.480 that doesn't work.

00:34:25.800 They're not worried

00:34:26.520 about three weeks

00:34:26.980 from now.

00:34:27.920 That punishment

00:34:28.680 has to be immediate.

00:34:31.800 Parents also know

00:34:32.880 that if you take

00:34:33.660 a child that's

00:34:34.060 misbehaving

00:34:34.620 and you say,

00:34:35.880 you're going to

00:34:36.220 regret this

00:34:36.800 and the punishment

00:34:37.840 is stand in a corner

00:34:39.200 for two and a half

00:34:39.900 minutes

00:34:40.340 and then the

00:34:42.780 parents are

00:34:43.220 perplexed

00:34:44.280 that that's not

00:34:44.940 working

00:34:45.320 and their kids

00:34:45.880 aren't listening

00:34:46.420 to them.

00:34:47.920 Is that okay?

00:34:48.760 I'm going to put

00:34:49.120 them in a corner

00:34:49.740 for two.

00:34:50.020 What does that matter?

00:34:51.220 Or,

00:34:51.600 hey,

00:34:51.820 you're going to

00:34:52.200 go to your room,

00:34:53.100 go to your room

00:34:54.440 where your TV

00:34:55.920 and video games

00:34:56.820 and your phone

00:34:57.700 and all your toys

00:34:58.280 are.

00:35:00.620 Mister,

00:35:01.080 if you do that

00:35:01.540 again,

00:35:02.140 I'm going to

00:35:02.840 send you to

00:35:03.280 your room

00:35:03.780 to play with

00:35:04.360 your toys

00:35:04.960 for an hour.

00:35:07.820 It doesn't work.

00:35:09.220 My kids are still,

00:35:10.220 out of control.

00:35:11.280 In fact,

00:35:11.600 they're even worse

00:35:12.220 now.

00:35:12.980 Why could that be?

00:35:15.160 Oh,

00:35:15.340 could it be because

00:35:15.720 the thing I'm trying

00:35:16.300 to disincentivize

00:35:17.160 their behavior

00:35:17.600 with is actually

00:35:18.220 an incentive?

00:35:21.020 Right?

00:35:21.320 So,

00:35:21.540 at every level

00:35:22.900 of life,

00:35:23.620 I think

00:35:25.060 you either

00:35:25.700 understand

00:35:26.260 incentives,

00:35:26.880 disincentives,

00:35:27.480 or you don't

00:35:27.840 understand it

00:35:28.380 and your life

00:35:28.860 is in total

00:35:29.320 chaos all the

00:35:29.920 time

00:35:30.220 because of it.

00:35:34.960 So,

00:35:35.500 going back

00:35:36.000 to the

00:35:36.840 criminal justice

00:35:37.460 system,

00:35:38.040 deterrence

00:35:39.860 works

00:35:40.720 if

00:35:41.980 the penalty

00:35:44.140 is

00:35:44.580 immediate,

00:35:45.960 number one,

00:35:47.060 and severe,

00:35:49.320 number two.

00:35:51.900 Right now,

00:35:52.640 these kids know

00:35:53.320 that,

00:35:53.900 as Trump

00:35:54.460 said,

00:35:55.340 they can do

00:35:55.860 whatever they

00:35:56.280 want.

00:35:57.520 Nothing will

00:35:57.920 happen to

00:35:58.300 them.

00:36:01.500 I mean,

00:36:02.100 imagine being a

00:36:03.440 kid,

00:36:03.640 being around a

00:36:04.040 bunch of

00:36:04.340 other juvenile

00:36:05.100 delinquents all

00:36:05.760 day,

00:36:06.000 right,

00:36:06.440 as these

00:36:06.780 kids are,

00:36:07.900 and knowing

00:36:09.600 that no matter

00:36:10.360 what you do,

00:36:11.120 there's no

00:36:11.460 parent at

00:36:11.900 home who

00:36:12.340 will care.

00:36:14.180 Right?

00:36:14.540 Because that's

00:36:14.800 the situation

00:36:15.420 these kids

00:36:15.800 are in.

00:36:17.460 When you're

00:36:17.940 a kid,

00:36:18.740 when you're

00:36:19.100 a kid,

00:36:19.360 if you have

00:36:19.760 good parents

00:36:20.640 who actually

00:36:20.940 love you,

00:36:21.780 then the

00:36:22.680 greatest deterrence

00:36:23.720 of all is

00:36:24.540 that you'll

00:36:24.880 get in trouble

00:36:25.340 with your

00:36:25.680 parents.

00:36:26.660 That's the

00:36:27.140 deterrence

00:36:27.620 that will

00:36:29.020 keep you

00:36:29.900 relatively in

00:36:30.980 line,

00:36:31.440 right,

00:36:32.000 most of the

00:36:32.900 time,

00:36:33.260 is that you're

00:36:33.840 actually worried

00:36:34.360 about what your

00:36:34.700 parents will

00:36:35.160 say.

00:36:36.000 Right?

00:36:37.820 So it's

00:36:38.040 not getting

00:36:39.960 suspended,

00:36:40.880 getting after

00:36:41.380 school detention.

00:36:42.960 The only

00:36:43.400 reason why,

00:36:44.160 if you're a

00:36:44.500 kid,

00:36:44.640 the only

00:36:44.800 reason why

00:36:45.260 that scares

00:36:45.860 you,

00:36:46.500 if it scares

00:36:47.460 you at all,

00:36:47.880 it's only

00:36:48.320 because of

00:36:50.000 what your

00:36:50.240 parents,

00:36:50.680 because now

00:36:50.980 your parents

00:36:51.400 are going

00:36:51.600 to know.

00:36:51.960 You don't

00:36:52.160 want your

00:36:52.420 parents to

00:36:52.860 know.

00:36:57.580 And even

00:36:58.640 getting

00:36:59.800 arrested,

00:37:01.920 right,

00:37:02.240 if you're

00:37:02.680 a wayward

00:37:03.480 youth,

00:37:04.220 as many of

00:37:05.080 us were,

00:37:06.000 and you

00:37:06.360 get into

00:37:06.620 some

00:37:06.800 trouble

00:37:07.040 here and

00:37:07.360 there,

00:37:08.460 let's

00:37:08.680 say you're

00:37:08.880 a teenage

00:37:09.220 boy,

00:37:10.660 getting

00:37:11.460 arrested,

00:37:13.260 right,

00:37:13.560 maybe you

00:37:13.840 get caught

00:37:14.140 underage

00:37:14.520 drinking or

00:37:14.980 something.

00:37:16.500 Well,

00:37:16.860 I mean,

00:37:17.780 you know you're

00:37:18.860 not going to

00:37:19.100 go to prison

00:37:19.560 for 10 years

00:37:20.320 for that.

00:37:21.380 The thing

00:37:21.860 that makes

00:37:22.340 getting arrested

00:37:23.000 scary,

00:37:23.480 if you have

00:37:24.200 good parents,

00:37:24.920 is that now

00:37:25.580 your parents

00:37:26.180 will know.

00:37:26.560 so the

00:37:30.100 problem is

00:37:30.520 that these

00:37:30.880 kids don't

00:37:31.840 have parents

00:37:32.280 who care,

00:37:33.300 don't have

00:37:33.680 parents who

00:37:34.040 love them.

00:37:35.260 I mean,

00:37:35.400 let's just

00:37:35.640 be real

00:37:35.980 about it.

00:37:36.360 A lot

00:37:36.580 of these

00:37:36.800 kids,

00:37:38.100 their parents

00:37:38.640 don't love

00:37:39.160 them.

00:37:39.600 I mean,

00:37:39.920 you know,

00:37:40.880 I know we

00:37:41.320 like to say,

00:37:42.240 oh,

00:37:42.340 all parents

00:37:42.740 love their

00:37:43.100 kids.

00:37:43.660 No,

00:37:43.900 they don't.

00:37:45.100 No,

00:37:45.320 they don't.

00:37:46.860 These kids

00:37:47.500 who assaulted

00:37:47.980 this young

00:37:49.500 man,

00:37:49.760 the doge

00:37:50.060 worker,

00:37:51.240 Edward,

00:37:51.540 their parents

00:37:54.300 don't love

00:37:54.640 them.

00:37:56.480 You know,

00:37:57.320 if you're

00:37:58.100 doing nothing

00:37:58.620 at all to

00:37:59.060 attend to the

00:37:59.540 moral formation

00:38:00.200 of your child,

00:38:00.780 you don't love

00:38:01.140 your kid.

00:38:01.860 You don't care

00:38:02.300 about your

00:38:02.580 kid.

00:38:03.800 You can claim

00:38:04.320 that you do

00:38:04.640 what you

00:38:04.840 don't.

00:38:06.700 So you

00:38:08.360 don't have

00:38:08.600 parents who

00:38:08.920 love you.

00:38:09.800 So you

00:38:10.140 don't have

00:38:10.380 the,

00:38:10.580 like you

00:38:10.840 don't care

00:38:11.300 about,

00:38:11.620 you're not

00:38:11.960 going to

00:38:12.080 get in

00:38:12.300 trouble.

00:38:12.860 You don't

00:38:13.180 respect your

00:38:13.620 parents.

00:38:13.980 You don't

00:38:14.140 care what

00:38:14.380 they think

00:38:14.720 or say.

00:38:16.380 So that

00:38:16.980 incentive is

00:38:18.360 totally gone

00:38:18.960 for these

00:38:19.240 kids.

00:38:21.540 And then

00:38:22.180 what ends

00:38:22.560 up happening

00:38:23.060 is that

00:38:24.160 actually

00:38:25.180 getting

00:38:26.300 arrested,

00:38:27.420 considering you

00:38:28.900 don't have

00:38:29.120 parents you

00:38:29.380 got to worry

00:38:29.740 about,

00:38:30.720 right?

00:38:30.920 You're not

00:38:31.160 thinking,

00:38:31.820 oh,

00:38:31.960 if I get

00:38:33.160 arrested,

00:38:33.380 and I got

00:38:34.180 to deal

00:38:34.380 with my

00:38:34.620 dad.

00:38:35.680 No way.

00:38:36.700 At least

00:38:36.860 none of

00:38:37.160 these kids

00:38:37.480 are thinking

00:38:38.560 that.

00:38:38.900 None of

00:38:39.200 these kids

00:38:39.520 are thinking,

00:38:40.000 oh,

00:38:40.200 man,

00:38:40.640 I'm getting

00:38:41.520 arrested.

00:38:41.960 What's my

00:38:42.540 dad going

00:38:43.040 to say?

00:38:45.680 Right?

00:38:45.920 Dad is not

00:38:46.960 even in long,

00:38:48.040 who knows

00:38:48.360 who dad is.

00:38:50.340 So,

00:38:50.700 if you

00:38:52.200 don't have

00:38:52.440 parents,

00:38:52.920 then getting

00:38:53.660 arrested is

00:38:55.160 actually,

00:38:56.640 not only is

00:38:57.540 that not a

00:38:58.040 scary thing,

00:38:59.260 if anything,

00:38:59.740 it increases

00:39:00.320 your street

00:39:00.780 cred.

00:39:02.480 Now these

00:39:03.080 kids know,

00:39:03.500 these 15-year-old

00:39:04.140 kids know that

00:39:04.960 they can get

00:39:05.800 arrested,

00:39:06.340 they'll do a

00:39:06.680 couple days in

00:39:07.240 jail,

00:39:07.660 nothing serious

00:39:08.200 is going to

00:39:08.560 happen,

00:39:09.420 they're not

00:39:09.720 actually going

00:39:10.060 to go to

00:39:10.260 a prison,

00:39:11.420 it doesn't

00:39:12.000 matter what

00:39:12.340 their parents,

00:39:12.680 the parents

00:39:13.020 are cracked

00:39:14.020 out and

00:39:14.480 don't care.

00:39:15.800 So what's

00:39:16.660 the downside?

00:39:17.380 Like,

00:39:17.520 really,

00:39:17.820 if you're a

00:39:18.340 15-year-old

00:39:19.140 delinquent,

00:39:19.720 run in the

00:39:20.940 streets of

00:39:21.320 D.C.,

00:39:21.740 what's the

00:39:22.200 downside of

00:39:23.140 getting arrested?

00:39:23.860 There isn't

00:39:24.260 one,

00:39:24.420 it's all

00:39:24.680 upside.

00:39:25.300 Now you

00:39:25.600 get street

00:39:25.960 cred,

00:39:26.220 now you

00:39:26.420 have a

00:39:26.600 story to

00:39:26.940 tell.

00:39:28.720 Right?

00:39:29.120 So the

00:39:33.840 only way to

00:39:34.560 solve that

00:39:35.100 problem,

00:39:35.580 I mean,

00:39:35.760 I'm just

00:39:36.060 describing this

00:39:36.760 is the

00:39:37.020 problem that

00:39:37.460 we're facing,

00:39:37.960 the only

00:39:38.400 way to

00:39:39.060 solve it

00:39:40.760 is if

00:39:45.040 these

00:39:45.360 delinquents

00:39:45.920 know that

00:39:46.500 when you

00:39:46.920 get arrested,

00:39:47.880 you're not

00:39:48.460 going to

00:39:48.660 spend two

00:39:49.060 days in

00:39:49.340 jail and

00:39:49.620 get out.

00:39:51.100 There's a

00:39:51.620 very real

00:39:52.100 risk that

00:39:52.780 you might

00:39:53.240 be in

00:39:53.560 that cage

00:39:54.700 for 20

00:39:55.720 years.

00:39:56.960 Okay,

00:39:57.120 your life

00:39:57.600 will be

00:39:58.140 effectively

00:39:58.820 over.

00:39:59.980 That's

00:40:00.340 what's

00:40:00.520 going to

00:40:00.700 happen.

00:40:03.520 That's

00:40:03.880 the only

00:40:04.100 way.

00:40:04.580 So I

00:40:04.860 know people

00:40:05.080 get squeamish

00:40:05.580 for,

00:40:05.760 oh,

00:40:05.780 you don't

00:40:05.960 want to

00:40:06.140 put a

00:40:06.340 14-year-old

00:40:06.820 kid in

00:40:07.100 prison for

00:40:07.420 20 years.

00:40:07.860 Well,

00:40:08.040 I've just

00:40:08.340 described to

00:40:08.840 you,

00:40:09.620 it's that

00:40:10.380 or we

00:40:10.840 continue

00:40:11.180 with this.

00:40:11.720 It's that

00:40:12.200 or total

00:40:12.680 chaos and

00:40:13.540 disorder.

00:40:15.880 Is it an

00:40:16.500 ugly thing?

00:40:17.100 Yeah.

00:40:17.420 I mean,

00:40:17.760 to put a

00:40:19.160 14-year-old

00:40:19.680 kid in

00:40:20.000 jail for

00:40:20.280 25 years,

00:40:21.560 it means

00:40:22.100 their life's

00:40:22.500 basically over.

00:40:23.060 Yeah,

00:40:23.180 it means that

00:40:23.580 they'll get

00:40:24.260 out when

00:40:27.820 they're 40

00:40:28.320 or something,

00:40:29.140 but their

00:40:29.440 life's

00:40:29.720 basically over.

00:40:31.900 And so

00:40:32.140 you're

00:40:32.420 kind of

00:40:32.780 giving up.

00:40:35.160 You're

00:40:35.560 sort of

00:40:35.780 throwing in

00:40:36.100 the towel

00:40:36.440 on that

00:40:36.780 kid.

00:40:39.660 This is

00:40:40.540 a kid,

00:40:40.920 not any

00:40:41.320 chance of

00:40:41.760 going to

00:40:42.080 college and

00:40:42.580 living a

00:40:42.880 functional

00:40:43.140 life,

00:40:43.600 probably out

00:40:44.140 the window.

00:40:46.300 It's an

00:40:46.820 ugly thing.

00:40:48.040 But as

00:40:48.600 I've said

00:40:48.880 many times,

00:40:49.680 ugly problems

00:40:50.340 require ugly

00:40:51.060 solutions.

00:40:52.500 We've

00:40:52.900 tried the

00:40:53.440 pretty nice

00:40:54.680 solutions,

00:40:55.440 you know,

00:40:55.620 the nice,

00:40:56.100 polite,

00:40:57.200 neat,

00:40:57.560 clean solutions

00:40:58.360 to ugly

00:40:58.980 problems.

00:40:59.780 And what

00:41:00.280 do you

00:41:00.420 end up

00:41:00.740 with?

00:41:00.940 You end

00:41:01.160 up with

00:41:01.420 more

00:41:01.680 ugliness.

00:41:03.260 This is

00:41:03.760 the only

00:41:04.060 way.

00:41:05.600 Someone

00:41:05.960 tell me

00:41:06.260 some other

00:41:06.560 way,

00:41:07.220 some other

00:41:07.900 real way

00:41:08.620 grounded in

00:41:09.280 reality,

00:41:09.940 not in your

00:41:10.560 fantasies about

00:41:11.280 how things

00:41:11.800 should be.

00:41:14.860 All right.

00:41:19.120 I'm not

00:41:19.560 going to spend

00:41:19.760 a lot of

00:41:20.020 time on this,

00:41:20.360 but I

00:41:20.440 wanted to

00:41:20.660 mention it

00:41:21.120 just,

00:41:21.600 you know,

00:41:22.220 because,

00:41:22.640 but the

00:41:22.900 little

00:41:23.200 entertainment

00:41:23.640 news,

00:41:24.000 the Sun

00:41:24.220 reports,

00:41:25.740 the Howard

00:41:26.000 Stern show

00:41:26.520 on Sirius

00:41:26.960 XM is

00:41:27.420 set to be

00:41:27.740 canceled after

00:41:28.380 a stunning

00:41:28.820 20-year run.

00:41:30.160 Sources

00:41:30.420 exclusively

00:41:30.980 told the

00:41:31.440 U.S.

00:41:31.960 Sun.

00:41:33.200 Stern,

00:41:33.540 who's 71

00:41:33.900 years old,

00:41:34.380 has had a

00:41:35.280 megabucks

00:41:35.660 contract for

00:41:36.140 decades.

00:41:36.680 The

00:41:36.740 subscription

00:41:36.960 satellite radio

00:41:37.540 provider will

00:41:37.940 likely cut

00:41:38.480 some sort

00:41:38.880 of deal for

00:41:39.300 Sirius to

00:41:39.600 keep his

00:41:39.820 catalog upon

00:41:40.400 his exit,

00:41:41.060 but the

00:41:41.840 reports are

00:41:42.200 saying that

00:41:42.980 the contract

00:41:44.180 will be

00:41:44.520 canceled.

00:41:46.580 And so

00:41:46.920 that'll be

00:41:47.260 the end

00:41:47.600 of an

00:41:48.580 era for

00:41:50.820 a guy who's

00:41:51.180 been on the

00:41:51.460 radio for,

00:41:52.040 I don't know,

00:41:52.900 40 plus

00:41:55.500 years.

00:41:56.800 Now,

00:41:57.060 Stern is

00:41:57.660 getting paid

00:41:58.320 $100 million

00:41:59.800 a year,

00:42:00.480 I think,

00:42:00.920 still,

00:42:01.220 something crazy

00:42:01.740 like that.

00:42:03.240 Obviously,

00:42:03.840 that gravy

00:42:04.240 train could

00:42:05.080 not keep

00:42:05.440 chugging along

00:42:06.060 forever,

00:42:06.520 especially

00:42:06.880 because nobody

00:42:07.400 listens to

00:42:07.880 radio anymore.

00:42:09.900 I guess

00:42:10.320 some people

00:42:10.780 do,

00:42:11.100 but who's

00:42:11.600 turning on

00:42:12.860 Sirius radio?

00:42:15.960 I mean,

00:42:16.360 when you've

00:42:16.860 got podcasts

00:42:17.560 and you can

00:42:17.940 just turn on

00:42:18.540 podcasts whenever

00:42:19.060 you want,

00:42:20.300 turn it off

00:42:20.740 whenever you

00:42:21.120 want,

00:42:21.460 check back

00:42:21.840 in on it,

00:42:22.320 you can't

00:42:23.000 compete with

00:42:23.340 that.

00:42:23.860 You can't

00:42:24.140 compete with

00:42:24.460 the convenience

00:42:24.900 of it.

00:42:27.220 More to the

00:42:27.880 point,

00:42:28.260 Howard Stern,

00:42:28.980 as everyone

00:42:29.340 has noticed,

00:42:30.200 is a shell

00:42:31.100 of his

00:42:32.540 former self.

00:42:33.320 He joins

00:42:33.940 a long

00:42:34.400 list of

00:42:34.800 these guys

00:42:35.380 all from

00:42:35.860 the same

00:42:36.180 generation

00:42:36.720 who used

00:42:38.040 to be

00:42:38.500 kind of

00:42:39.220 countercultural

00:42:40.000 and edgy

00:42:40.740 and funny

00:42:41.240 and provocative.

00:42:43.020 And I was

00:42:43.640 never a big

00:42:44.040 Howard Stern

00:42:44.440 fan,

00:42:44.700 never really

00:42:44.980 listened to

00:42:45.420 his show.

00:42:46.980 He's always

00:42:47.560 been a degenerate

00:42:48.320 creep.

00:42:49.040 He's still

00:42:49.460 that.

00:42:49.820 But now

00:42:52.680 it's the

00:42:52.900 worst of

00:42:53.180 all worlds.

00:42:54.460 He's still

00:42:55.780 a degenerate

00:42:56.860 creep,

00:42:57.360 creepy old

00:42:57.840 man,

00:42:58.340 but not

00:42:59.260 even

00:42:59.660 provocative

00:43:00.740 or edgy

00:43:01.280 anymore.

00:43:02.240 So he's

00:43:03.400 got it all.

00:43:04.360 He's a

00:43:04.580 degenerate

00:43:04.980 creep.

00:43:05.260 He's also

00:43:06.100 soft,

00:43:06.820 milquetoast,

00:43:08.500 this castrated

00:43:11.420 eunuch.

00:43:11.820 And that's

00:43:13.940 what's

00:43:14.080 happened to

00:43:14.420 a lot of

00:43:14.780 these,

00:43:14.960 like pretty

00:43:15.240 much all

00:43:15.560 of these

00:43:15.800 guys in

00:43:16.420 this

00:43:16.580 generation.

00:43:18.660 And I

00:43:19.420 was thinking

00:43:19.760 about this

00:43:20.140 today.

00:43:23.300 And I

00:43:23.960 was really,

00:43:24.420 and this

00:43:24.580 is,

00:43:24.840 this is maybe,

00:43:25.760 so think

00:43:26.380 about this

00:43:26.700 and let

00:43:27.280 me know

00:43:27.620 if you

00:43:28.040 can think

00:43:28.340 of some

00:43:28.580 names.

00:43:30.320 So let's

00:43:32.420 make it

00:43:32.700 clean.

00:43:33.480 Say 2005.

00:43:34.340 almost every

00:43:37.760 person who

00:43:39.120 was funny

00:43:40.080 in the

00:43:41.080 year 2005

00:43:42.080 and is

00:43:44.000 still alive

00:43:44.760 is now

00:43:46.620 completely

00:43:47.980 lame and

00:43:49.280 unfunny.

00:43:50.600 Can you

00:43:51.160 name someone

00:43:52.060 who was

00:43:52.800 really funny

00:43:53.720 in the

00:43:54.480 year 2005

00:43:55.360 and is

00:43:56.360 still alive

00:43:56.980 and still

00:43:58.480 funny?

00:44:01.140 Because I'm

00:44:01.980 going down

00:44:02.280 the list

00:44:02.560 in my head

00:44:03.060 and I

00:44:03.320 can't,

00:44:03.540 I can't

00:44:03.920 think of

00:44:04.400 almost

00:44:06.180 anyone.

00:44:06.680 I mean,

00:44:07.020 Louis C.K.,

00:44:09.300 but he

00:44:10.260 really wasn't

00:44:11.160 widely known

00:44:11.740 in 2005,

00:44:12.600 so he

00:44:12.800 probably

00:44:13.000 doesn't

00:44:13.220 count.

00:44:14.140 But he's

00:44:14.320 one of the

00:44:14.620 very,

00:44:14.900 very few

00:44:15.400 comedic

00:44:15.800 voices

00:44:16.120 that's been

00:44:16.460 around for

00:44:16.760 a long

00:44:16.960 time,

00:44:17.440 hasn't lost

00:44:17.920 his edge.

00:44:19.100 If anything,

00:44:19.520 he's gained

00:44:20.580 more,

00:44:21.000 he's edgier

00:44:21.620 now than

00:44:21.940 he used

00:44:22.120 to be.

00:44:25.580 So,

00:44:26.260 but I

00:44:27.400 don't know

00:44:27.580 that you

00:44:27.720 really count

00:44:28.060 him.

00:44:28.340 Some people

00:44:28.720 would say

00:44:29.120 Chappelle,

00:44:30.260 but I

00:44:31.380 think most

00:44:31.700 of Chappelle's

00:44:32.240 new stuff

00:44:32.720 just isn't

00:44:33.680 that funny.

00:44:34.400 I mean,

00:44:34.540 I agree

00:44:34.860 with him

00:44:35.100 on the

00:44:35.320 trans

00:44:35.660 stuff,

00:44:36.160 but the

00:44:38.000 material isn't

00:44:38.800 funny.

00:44:40.400 It doesn't

00:44:41.020 hold a candle

00:44:41.780 to Chappelle's

00:44:42.560 stand-up from

00:44:43.040 2004,

00:44:43.760 2005,

00:44:44.360 that's for

00:44:44.640 sure.

00:44:46.260 So I don't

00:44:46.520 know if you

00:44:46.700 can say him.

00:44:47.300 Ricky Gervais,

00:44:48.200 maybe.

00:44:48.940 He definitely

00:44:49.460 hasn't gone

00:44:49.860 woke or anything,

00:44:50.680 I wouldn't say,

00:44:51.360 but I don't

00:44:52.940 know.

00:44:53.160 I mean,

00:44:53.280 I love Ricky

00:44:53.780 Gervais'

00:44:54.240 work.

00:44:54.780 He's the

00:44:55.160 creator of

00:44:55.640 what I

00:44:56.060 think may

00:44:56.700 be,

00:44:57.700 for my money,

00:44:58.400 the two

00:44:58.680 funniest shows

00:44:59.340 ever made

00:45:00.000 in the

00:45:00.640 British office

00:45:01.700 and extras

00:45:02.560 on HBO.

00:45:06.360 And that

00:45:06.940 might be

00:45:07.160 my favorite

00:45:08.520 comedy of

00:45:08.980 all time.

00:45:10.120 And I love

00:45:10.500 both of those

00:45:10.880 shows.

00:45:11.240 But I don't

00:45:11.720 think he's

00:45:11.980 made a really

00:45:12.500 hilarious show

00:45:13.480 in a while.

00:45:15.360 Certainly nothing

00:45:15.800 that competes

00:45:16.320 with that era

00:45:16.900 from like 2001,

00:45:17.820 2010.

00:45:18.720 But aside from

00:45:19.280 those guys who

00:45:19.940 are the only

00:45:20.280 possible contenders

00:45:21.140 for having been

00:45:22.020 funny in 2005 and

00:45:23.020 still funny today,

00:45:23.700 20 years later,

00:45:24.240 outside of them,

00:45:24.680 there's just no

00:45:25.160 one.

00:45:26.000 I mean,

00:45:26.160 think about

00:45:26.520 any comedian,

00:45:27.820 comedic actor,

00:45:29.140 radio host,

00:45:31.640 media personality,

00:45:32.480 anyone who was

00:45:33.900 funny or edgy 20

00:45:35.280 to 25 years ago,

00:45:36.320 and they all

00:45:36.960 suck now.

00:45:37.540 I mean,

00:45:37.700 they're all

00:45:38.080 lame and bad,

00:45:38.920 and most of

00:45:39.880 them are uber

00:45:40.460 woke.

00:45:43.280 So Howard Stern

00:45:44.440 has a lot of

00:45:45.040 company.

00:45:45.400 Bill Burr is an

00:45:46.360 obvious other

00:45:46.880 example.

00:45:47.620 Even when you

00:45:48.060 think about the

00:45:49.280 actors and

00:45:49.800 filmmakers,

00:45:50.740 Will Ferrell,

00:45:51.640 Seth Rogen,

00:45:52.800 Judd Apatow,

00:45:53.540 I mean,

00:45:53.740 all those guys.

00:45:55.380 When's the last

00:45:55.880 time any of

00:45:56.280 them did

00:45:56.480 anything that

00:45:56.960 was funny?

00:46:02.280 Hate to say

00:46:02.980 it,

00:46:03.320 but even

00:46:03.880 South Park,

00:46:07.520 I mean,

00:46:07.780 certainly Family

00:46:08.600 Guy,

00:46:08.960 The Simpsons

00:46:09.360 hasn't been

00:46:09.680 funny in

00:46:10.100 like 30

00:46:10.660 years.

00:46:13.020 Family Guy,

00:46:13.680 I think to

00:46:16.720 the extent that

00:46:17.140 it was ever

00:46:17.460 funny,

00:46:17.820 it fell off a

00:46:18.480 long time ago.

00:46:19.420 South Park,

00:46:20.060 too.

00:46:20.220 I don't really

00:46:20.640 watch the show

00:46:21.140 anymore,

00:46:21.380 and I'm not

00:46:22.000 just saying

00:46:22.460 this because,

00:46:23.100 oh,

00:46:23.180 they made fun

00:46:23.520 of Trump.

00:46:23.820 I couldn't

00:46:24.100 care less about

00:46:24.860 that at

00:46:25.360 all,

00:46:26.040 but I

00:46:27.240 see these

00:46:27.680 clips.

00:46:28.000 I don't

00:46:28.180 really sit

00:46:28.520 down and

00:46:28.760 watch the

00:46:29.100 show anymore

00:46:29.600 these days

00:46:30.060 because I'm

00:46:30.500 an adult,

00:46:31.280 but when I

00:46:32.660 see these

00:46:32.940 clips circulating,

00:46:33.660 and this has

00:46:33.920 been for years

00:46:34.440 now of

00:46:34.840 South Park,

00:46:35.440 and people

00:46:35.680 say,

00:46:35.880 oh,

00:46:36.000 South Park

00:46:36.400 still got

00:46:36.860 it,

00:46:36.980 and I

00:46:37.120 watch the

00:46:37.400 clips,

00:46:37.700 and I

00:46:37.860 go,

00:46:38.260 no,

00:46:38.560 they don't.

00:46:40.920 They've

00:46:41.280 lost a lot

00:46:41.780 of the edge.

00:46:42.200 This is not

00:46:42.620 what it used

00:46:43.640 to be.

00:46:45.560 So,

00:46:46.100 I don't

00:46:47.580 know.

00:46:47.960 Why has

00:46:48.980 that happened?

00:46:49.720 I mean,

00:46:49.880 what's going

00:46:50.380 on here?

00:46:50.720 Well,

00:46:52.900 part of it

00:46:53.300 is the

00:46:53.540 political and

00:46:54.140 social pressure

00:46:54.840 for sure.

00:46:55.620 These are

00:46:56.100 people who

00:46:56.440 want to be

00:46:56.800 accepted in

00:46:57.320 the mainstream.

00:46:59.140 Howard Stern

00:46:59.640 in particular

00:47:00.240 started hanging

00:47:00.940 out with A-list

00:47:01.620 celebrities in

00:47:02.380 his private

00:47:02.760 life and

00:47:03.160 decided that

00:47:03.660 he didn't

00:47:03.980 want to do

00:47:04.360 anything or

00:47:04.840 say anything

00:47:05.320 that would

00:47:05.720 jeopardize those

00:47:06.380 friendships.

00:47:06.700 I think it's

00:47:07.060 probably the

00:47:07.460 story with

00:47:07.820 all these

00:47:08.160 people who

00:47:09.680 used to be

00:47:10.240 Bill Burr,

00:47:10.960 you know,

00:47:11.300 is another

00:47:11.740 one,

00:47:12.540 started hanging

00:47:14.400 out with rich

00:47:15.220 people and

00:47:15.960 started doing

00:47:16.460 all the TV

00:47:16.940 shows and

00:47:17.420 going to the

00:47:17.800 Emmys,

00:47:18.220 and then you

00:47:19.380 just don't

00:47:19.700 want to upset

00:47:20.280 these people

00:47:21.000 that you are

00:47:21.640 really friends

00:47:22.080 with.

00:47:22.980 Right?

00:47:23.380 When you're

00:47:23.840 at a spot

00:47:24.240 where you

00:47:24.460 can, I

00:47:25.080 don't know,

00:47:25.360 call up

00:47:25.760 George Clooney

00:47:26.360 and say,

00:47:27.200 hey,

00:47:27.340 George,

00:47:27.600 what's going

00:47:27.900 on?

00:47:28.280 You don't

00:47:28.560 want to

00:47:28.760 jeopardize

00:47:29.160 that.

00:47:31.160 And also,

00:47:31.880 look,

00:47:32.000 when you

00:47:32.160 become obscenely

00:47:32.900 rich and

00:47:34.340 you reach a

00:47:34.780 point of

00:47:35.100 total creative

00:47:35.860 freedom where

00:47:36.520 nobody can

00:47:37.060 say no to

00:47:37.540 you,

00:47:38.680 and that's

00:47:39.540 when, in

00:47:40.000 many cases,

00:47:40.640 you start to

00:47:41.100 fall off.

00:47:41.540 You get too

00:47:41.900 comfortable,

00:47:42.380 you get soft,

00:47:43.060 there's no

00:47:43.800 tension.

00:47:47.920 I think

00:47:48.400 creative genius,

00:47:49.140 really comedic

00:47:49.640 genius,

00:47:50.060 comes from

00:47:50.760 tension,

00:47:51.520 from this

00:47:51.800 friction,

00:47:52.460 frustration,

00:47:53.120 a little bit

00:47:53.660 of that.

00:47:53.800 You have to

00:47:54.000 have some

00:47:54.260 of that.

00:47:55.520 Some of

00:47:55.960 that hunger

00:47:56.520 that comes

00:47:57.060 from that,

00:47:58.760 but they don't

00:47:59.700 have it anymore.

00:48:00.100 They're not

00:48:00.280 trying to

00:48:00.540 prove anything

00:48:01.180 to anyone,

00:48:03.120 and that's

00:48:03.720 death.

00:48:04.780 Creatively,

00:48:05.580 that's death.

00:48:07.260 Nothing to

00:48:07.620 prove,

00:48:08.020 everything to

00:48:08.540 lose,

00:48:09.960 fat,

00:48:10.580 comfortable,

00:48:11.140 rich.

00:48:13.240 Who can

00:48:13.860 stay funny

00:48:14.440 and edgy

00:48:14.880 in a

00:48:15.560 situation like

00:48:16.280 that?

00:48:16.480 It turns

00:48:16.760 out that

00:48:17.300 it's very

00:48:19.880 difficult to,

00:48:20.460 which is

00:48:20.740 why I

00:48:23.380 wish that

00:48:24.480 some of

00:48:25.120 these guys,

00:48:26.840 to include

00:48:27.920 Howard Stern,

00:48:29.080 would just

00:48:29.480 go away.

00:48:31.380 Just go.

00:48:31.900 You can

00:48:32.260 leave.

00:48:32.840 You've

00:48:33.480 made all

00:48:35.500 the money.

00:48:36.140 You've

00:48:36.340 made enough

00:48:36.860 money that

00:48:37.280 it would

00:48:38.260 take you

00:48:38.640 a thousand

00:48:39.100 lifetimes to

00:48:39.820 spend it.

00:48:40.800 You've

00:48:41.320 accomplished

00:48:41.620 everything you

00:48:42.100 accomplished.

00:48:42.460 Just go

00:48:42.800 away.

00:48:43.480 Just leave.

00:48:45.160 You don't

00:48:45.900 have to

00:48:46.200 stay on

00:48:46.820 camera

00:48:47.260 deteriorating

00:48:48.300 in front

00:48:48.800 of us.

00:48:51.140 Don't

00:48:51.620 make us

00:48:52.020 watch this.

00:48:53.680 If you're

00:48:54.320 a creative

00:48:54.760 genius,

00:48:55.260 especially

00:48:55.660 someone who's

00:48:56.180 funny,

00:48:57.540 you hit your

00:48:58.320 peak,

00:48:58.940 and once you

00:48:59.660 lose it,

00:49:00.060 you know

00:49:00.400 you're

00:49:00.600 losing it.

00:49:01.160 You know

00:49:01.500 you're

00:49:01.680 losing it.

00:49:02.040 You know

00:49:02.200 it's not

00:49:02.520 like it

00:49:02.780 used to

00:49:03.080 be.

00:49:03.520 You don't

00:49:04.040 have the

00:49:04.340 edge anymore.

00:49:04.880 You don't

00:49:05.200 have the

00:49:05.520 spark.

00:49:06.600 You don't

00:49:07.400 want to

00:49:08.880 cause

00:49:09.400 problems.

00:49:10.100 You don't

00:49:10.280 want the

00:49:10.640 controversy.

00:49:11.300 You don't

00:49:11.520 want any

00:49:11.920 of that

00:49:12.140 anymore.

00:49:12.500 You just

00:49:12.740 want to

00:49:12.900 be

00:49:13.000 comfortable.

00:49:13.500 When

00:49:13.700 that

00:49:13.840 happens,

00:49:14.200 I get

00:49:14.500 it.

00:49:14.640 Just leave.

00:49:15.240 Don't

00:49:15.480 make us

00:49:15.840 watch.

00:49:16.300 Don't

00:49:16.560 make us

00:49:16.900 watch you

00:49:18.200 become this

00:49:20.560 disgusting,

00:49:22.300 pathetic

00:49:22.680 puddle,

00:49:23.600 this sort

00:49:25.000 of gelatinous,

00:49:27.140 boneless,

00:49:27.660 spineless

00:49:28.800 monstrosity.

00:49:31.200 Don't

00:49:31.720 make us

00:49:32.020 watch it.

00:49:33.120 Go away.

00:49:34.280 Go away.

00:49:35.080 Live the

00:49:35.660 rest of

00:49:35.960 your life.

00:49:37.780 You know,

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00:52:00.480 When we

00:52:01.120 discussed the

00:52:01.680 upcoming Aztec

00:52:02.740 Batman film a few

00:52:03.740 days ago, one of

00:52:04.380 the many outstanding

00:52:05.060 questions was,

00:52:06.220 who's going to

00:52:07.160 watch this exactly?

00:52:08.760 Who's interested in

00:52:09.600 seeing Hollywood

00:52:10.420 convert Batman into

00:52:12.000 a bloodthirsty Aztec

00:52:13.340 warrior who

00:52:13.900 presumably spends

00:52:14.540 his time routing

00:52:15.140 up children for

00:52:15.780 human sacrifices while

00:52:16.760 evading conquistadors

00:52:17.740 with vastly superior

00:52:19.160 technology?

00:52:19.740 It doesn't seem

00:52:20.900 exactly like the

00:52:22.220 most compelling

00:52:23.140 content in the

00:52:23.680 world.

00:52:23.880 Indeed, in the

00:52:24.860 comments section

00:52:25.360 below my monologue

00:52:26.160 on Aztec Batman,

00:52:26.980 a lot of people

00:52:27.440 identifying as

00:52:28.140 Hispanic and

00:52:28.800 Mexican agreed that

00:52:29.760 they would never

00:52:30.600 watch the film.

00:52:31.320 So again, what's

00:52:32.560 the target audience

00:52:33.280 for a cartoon

00:52:33.960 propaganda film about

00:52:34.980 how really human

00:52:35.960 sacrifice wasn't so

00:52:37.260 bad?

00:52:38.340 Does such an

00:52:38.840 audience exist?

00:52:40.780 Well, it turns out

00:52:41.320 that indeed such an

00:52:42.200 audience does exist and

00:52:43.180 it consists of women

00:52:44.160 like Emily Poole,

00:52:45.560 who claims to be an

00:52:46.400 AP European history

00:52:47.720 teacher.

00:52:48.160 Poole posted this

00:52:50.060 video on TikTok from

00:52:51.100 her recent visit to

00:52:52.220 Peru in which she

00:52:53.040 marveled at how

00:52:54.200 advanced the Incan

00:52:55.480 civilization was.

00:52:56.980 Watch.

00:52:57.880 You were telling me

00:52:58.500 the Spanish looked at

00:52:59.220 this and said

00:53:00.440 uncivilized.

00:53:01.380 The Inca built the

00:53:02.660 Moray Terraces as an

00:53:04.040 agricultural laboratory

00:53:05.060 because each separate

00:53:06.440 circle created a

00:53:07.800 different microclimate

00:53:08.880 so they could figure

00:53:09.700 out exactly what to

00:53:10.840 grow at what

00:53:11.380 elevation.

00:53:12.540 The Inca, who

00:53:13.200 cultivated 44 types of

00:53:14.600 corn and 4,000

00:53:16.120 types of potatoes.

00:53:17.200 The Inca, who built

00:53:19.340 this stuff 600 years

00:53:21.000 ago, and it is still

00:53:22.220 standing because it's

00:53:23.160 all earthquake proof.

00:53:24.360 The Inca, who created

00:53:25.440 salt flats that still

00:53:26.620 to this day aren't

00:53:27.480 privatized.

00:53:28.320 They're all sharing it

00:53:29.160 from the same hot

00:53:30.220 spring in the mountain

00:53:31.040 and everyone gets a

00:53:32.420 share.

00:53:33.400 Not to mention

00:53:34.380 Coricancha, Machu

00:53:36.320 Pichu, the fact that

00:53:37.300 all of their cities

00:53:38.040 were made intentionally

00:53:39.760 in the shapes of

00:53:41.140 animals that were

00:53:41.920 important to them.

00:53:43.160 This reminds me of

00:53:44.320 exactly what happened

00:53:45.220 in Tenochtitlan.

00:53:46.380 When Cortes laid eyes

00:53:48.060 on that city for the

00:53:48.980 first time, he wrote

00:53:50.260 in his diary that the

00:53:51.580 temples were grander

00:53:53.160 than anything he would

00:53:54.060 have seen in Sevilla.

00:53:56.060 Yeah, you're telling me

00:53:57.120 the Spanish saw this

00:53:58.920 and they said, nah,

00:54:00.820 inferior.

00:54:01.960 Now to recap, the

00:54:03.100 Incas made cities in the

00:54:04.960 shapes of animals that

00:54:05.980 were important to them

00:54:06.800 and they apparently

00:54:07.400 deserve credit for the

00:54:08.200 fact that the salt

00:54:09.140 flats still aren't

00:54:10.140 privatized for some

00:54:11.260 reason.

00:54:11.960 And on top of that,

00:54:12.580 she states that the

00:54:13.500 Aztec temples were

00:54:14.340 impressive to Cortes

00:54:15.260 and therefore we

00:54:15.800 should infer that the

00:54:16.500 Spanish were also

00:54:17.280 impressed with the

00:54:18.400 Incas.

00:54:18.700 Now, strangely enough,

00:54:20.200 Emily Poole omits a

00:54:21.460 few things here.

00:54:22.000 For example, Cortes

00:54:22.960 also wrote that the

00:54:23.720 Aztecs, quote, have a

00:54:24.880 custom that is horrible

00:54:25.680 and abominable and

00:54:26.700 deserving punishment

00:54:27.400 and which we have

00:54:28.040 never before seen in

00:54:29.020 any other place.

00:54:30.280 They take many boys

00:54:31.060 or girls and even

00:54:31.700 grown men and women

00:54:32.460 and in the presence of

00:54:33.740 those idols, they open

00:54:34.580 their breasts while

00:54:35.220 they're still alive and

00:54:36.320 take out the hearts

00:54:36.960 and entrails and burn

00:54:37.980 the set entrails and

00:54:38.880 hearts before the idols

00:54:39.760 offering the smoke of

00:54:41.140 the sacrifice to them.

00:54:42.340 Most of those who

00:54:42.940 have seen this say

00:54:43.940 that it is the most

00:54:44.400 terrible and frightful

00:54:45.280 thing to behold that

00:54:46.060 has ever been seen.

00:54:47.380 There is no year as

00:54:48.320 far as we have until

00:54:49.720 now discovered and

00:54:50.720 seen when they do not

00:54:52.180 kill and sacrifice in

00:54:53.440 this manner some three

00:54:54.560 or four thousand souls.

00:54:57.640 Well, that seems like

00:54:58.500 an important bit of

00:54:59.480 context as long as

00:55:00.680 we're citing Cortes

00:55:01.640 and the Aztecs.

00:55:02.560 As for the Incas,

00:55:03.400 it's true that they

00:55:04.100 were indeed one of the

00:55:05.040 most advanced Indian

00:55:05.960 civilizations in the

00:55:06.940 entire western

00:55:07.520 hemisphere and yet,

00:55:09.060 remarkably enough,

00:55:09.840 they still didn't have

00:55:11.780 the wheel or a

00:55:12.940 written language.

00:55:14.440 They stood at the

00:55:15.320 very cutting edge of

00:55:16.460 Indian advancement and

00:55:17.420 yet they were still

00:55:18.300 far less, far, far less

00:55:19.960 advanced than the

00:55:21.260 Roman Empire, which

00:55:22.160 preceded them by 1500

00:55:23.480 years.

00:55:24.920 And on top of that,

00:55:25.520 Incan temples were

00:55:26.280 considerably less

00:55:27.080 impressive than, say,

00:55:28.080 Egyptian pyramids that

00:55:29.680 were built thousands of

00:55:30.760 years earlier.

00:55:32.280 Meanwhile, they were

00:55:32.840 still burning children

00:55:33.860 alive or beating them

00:55:34.940 to death or, you know,

00:55:36.660 sending them off to

00:55:37.720 freeze to death to

00:55:38.360 appease their gods and

00:55:39.960 also practicing

00:55:40.820 ritualistic cannibalism.

00:55:43.100 Now, the Incas may

00:55:43.740 have built stone

00:55:44.500 structures that were a

00:55:45.580 few stories high, but

00:55:46.380 Europeans were coming

00:55:47.220 from a culture that

00:55:47.940 had massive cathedrals.

00:55:49.660 They had universities.

00:55:52.720 Oxford University was

00:55:53.920 founded 400 years

00:55:55.960 before the Incan

00:55:58.160 Empire existed.

00:56:01.240 I mean, think about

00:56:02.500 that.

00:56:04.040 Expecting the Spanish

00:56:04.940 to be impressed with

00:56:06.020 big stone temples in

00:56:07.160 1530?

00:56:07.880 It's like expecting

00:56:08.940 somebody in 2025 to be

00:56:10.220 impressed by a society

00:56:11.120 that just started using

00:56:12.000 the printing press.

00:56:13.840 And this is why the

00:56:14.800 Spanish were able to

00:56:15.800 conquer the Incas with

00:56:16.620 just 200 men, an even

00:56:17.820 smaller force than they

00:56:18.700 used to destroy the

00:56:19.400 Aztecs.

00:56:20.320 We're talking about

00:56:21.460 fearsome, warfaring

00:56:23.240 civilizations, the most

00:56:24.960 advanced, again, in that

00:56:26.420 part of the world that

00:56:27.880 had conquered and

00:56:28.660 slaughtered their way to

00:56:29.620 dominance.

00:56:30.260 And the Spanish came in

00:56:31.320 and whooped their butts

00:56:32.420 in a short period of time

00:56:34.800 while being outnumbered

00:56:36.480 1,000 to 1.

00:56:38.900 Now, I know all this,

00:56:40.460 even though I'm not an

00:56:41.220 AP European history

00:56:42.340 teacher.

00:56:43.320 I didn't even go to

00:56:44.280 college and I know this.

00:56:45.540 Imagine that.

00:56:47.200 That's because, unlike

00:56:48.200 Emily Poole, I want to

00:56:49.880 understand history, not

00:56:51.000 entertain a delusional

00:56:51.940 audience on TikTok.

00:56:53.820 But credit where it's due,

00:56:54.720 Emily Poole has

00:56:55.420 successfully appealed to

00:56:56.320 this particular demographic.

00:56:57.400 Her video is something

00:56:58.040 like 600,000 likes.

00:57:00.180 All the top replies claim

00:57:01.240 that it's racist to

00:57:02.160 disparage the Incas and

00:57:03.320 that Christian bigots are

00:57:04.860 just hating on a strong,

00:57:06.720 independent Indian

00:57:08.060 civilization.

00:57:09.420 At the same time, not

00:57:10.240 everyone bought into the

00:57:11.060 propaganda.

00:57:11.500 Some people did point out

00:57:12.360 that the Incas, like the

00:57:13.100 Aztecs, also engaged in

00:57:14.160 child sacrifice.

00:57:14.920 And that seems like a

00:57:15.400 pretty inconvenient detail

00:57:16.400 if you're trying to make

00:57:17.480 the case that the Spanish

00:57:18.240 were highly impressed by

00:57:19.220 Incan civilization and the

00:57:20.140 Incan civilization was so

00:57:21.120 advanced.

00:57:22.400 And Emily Poole noticed

00:57:23.280 these responses.

00:57:25.300 And she produced the

00:57:27.140 following rejoinder, one

00:57:28.400 that should disqualify her

00:57:30.740 from ever teaching in a

00:57:32.340 classroom ever again.

00:57:34.180 Seriously.

00:57:35.140 Watch.

00:57:36.220 I will die on this hill.

00:57:37.400 I'm specifically talking

00:57:38.300 about the Inga here.

00:57:39.020 We're not talking about

00:57:39.520 the Mexica.

00:57:40.120 That's a whole separate

00:57:40.900 type of sacrifice.

00:57:41.940 If we're just looking at

00:57:42.900 Tawantinsuyu, the Quechua

00:57:44.220 people of the Incan Empire,

00:57:45.700 they practiced sacrifices like

00:57:47.660 most other civilizations

00:57:49.100 throughout history did in

00:57:50.660 times of crisis.

00:57:51.600 So famine, natural

00:57:53.100 disasters.

00:57:54.100 But the unique thing about

00:57:55.180 the Quechua is that when

00:57:56.980 you're looking at like the

00:57:57.600 Incan civilization, you

00:57:58.440 essentially have the elites

00:57:59.360 and then you have everyone

00:58:00.140 else.

00:58:01.560 Sacrifices were volunteers

00:58:03.140 from the elite class

00:58:05.380 because they believed that

00:58:06.520 the elites were closer to

00:58:07.840 the gods and could

00:58:08.760 therefore appease them

00:58:09.900 better.

00:58:10.840 Also, in terms of

00:58:12.260 sacrifice, they were kind

00:58:14.480 about it.

00:58:14.940 Hear me out.

00:58:16.020 Because unlike the Mexica,

00:58:17.480 when you're like ripping out

00:58:18.380 a still beating heart out of

00:58:19.460 someone's chest, the Inca

00:58:20.980 would intentionally use

00:58:23.020 coca leaves and would use

00:58:24.500 chicha and would drug

00:58:26.900 up the sacrifice and

00:58:29.240 then leave them on a

00:58:30.260 mountain, a cold, chilly

00:58:31.900 mountain, to be exposed

00:58:33.160 to the elements.

00:58:35.060 Which, if you're good,

00:58:37.260 a volunteer sacrifice where

00:58:38.920 you're heavily drugged

00:58:39.840 before you die.

00:58:42.060 Also, I mean, I can equate

00:58:43.420 human sacrifice throughout

00:58:45.900 history to so many things.

00:58:48.800 And I think the fact that a

00:58:50.420 lot of people are commenting,

00:58:52.140 oh, but the sacrifice is

00:58:53.860 again indicative of the fact

00:58:55.760 that you have received a

00:58:56.820 quite white education

00:58:58.080 because you are knowing

00:58:59.320 them for the bad things

00:59:00.360 that they have done and

00:59:01.460 not all of the wonders

00:59:02.820 that they accomplished.

00:59:04.420 So I hope that this maybe

00:59:06.260 helps you understand a

00:59:06.960 different part of my most

00:59:08.340 favorite civilization of all

00:59:09.120 time, the Inca.

00:59:09.560 Yes, she says, the Incan form of

00:59:12.080 human sacrifice was, quote,

00:59:14.040 kind and also voluntary.

00:59:17.940 It's the elites who suffer the

00:59:19.320 most.

00:59:20.700 Children were merely left to

00:59:21.960 freeze to death after being

00:59:23.040 drugged out of their minds.

00:59:24.780 Which isn't so bad when you

00:59:26.140 think about it, she says.

00:59:27.980 I mean, that's not a bad deal.

00:59:31.620 Someone offers you a deal where

00:59:32.700 they'll drag you to the top of a

00:59:33.840 mountain and leave you with no

00:59:35.720 food and no clothing to freeze to

00:59:37.320 death.

00:59:38.260 That's not so bad.

00:59:39.600 Emily's thinking about it.

00:59:40.540 She's like, hmm, I don't know.

00:59:42.840 I'd have to really think about

00:59:43.800 that one.

00:59:44.640 That's an interesting proposal.

00:59:48.060 Then she blames white people for

00:59:49.440 having a judgmental view of

00:59:50.840 human sacrifice because, you

00:59:52.540 know, she could equate, she

00:59:54.220 says, a lot of things in

00:59:55.260 modern culture to the ritual

00:59:56.400 savagery that was performed by

00:59:58.060 the Incas.

00:59:59.260 Now, this kind of comes off like a

01:00:00.560 parody of what a leftist female

01:00:02.160 academic would say, except she

01:00:03.400 really said it.

01:00:04.040 You know, it's real.

01:00:05.980 A history teacher has just

01:00:07.180 uploaded a video in her own

01:00:08.440 name defending Indians for

01:00:10.680 brutally murdering children.

01:00:13.340 And needless to say, the claim

01:00:14.240 that eight-year-old kids, keep

01:00:15.460 in mind, these were, these human

01:00:16.660 sacrifices were often kids

01:00:18.000 between the ages of like six and

01:00:20.240 15 years old.

01:00:22.140 And the claim that a kid who was,

01:00:23.420 you know, eight years old

01:00:24.280 volunteered to die of starvation

01:00:27.580 and hypothermia is insane.

01:00:29.540 And if this woman thinks

01:00:31.700 otherwise, then people need to

01:00:32.800 ask what's going on inside her

01:00:33.860 classroom.

01:00:35.580 It's also notable that she

01:00:36.800 doesn't explicitly state what

01:00:38.780 modern practice, in her view,

01:00:41.680 can be equated with human

01:00:43.660 sacrifice.

01:00:45.640 What does she have in mind?

01:00:48.540 I mean, that's a pretty

01:00:49.360 startling claim.

01:00:50.420 I could equate a lot of things

01:00:51.540 with ritualistic child

01:00:53.020 sacrifice.

01:00:53.740 Oh, oh, really, Emily?

01:00:55.500 Like what?

01:00:57.320 I'd love to hear more.

01:00:59.540 What is the modern

01:01:00.720 equivalent of carving

01:01:02.720 up a living child?

01:01:05.780 Well, we all know the answer

01:01:07.640 to that question, even though

01:01:08.740 women like Emily Poole

01:01:09.780 can't say it out loud.

01:01:11.660 The modern equivalent

01:01:12.780 is abortion.

01:01:14.900 People like Emily Poole

01:01:15.880 are making excuses for human

01:01:17.180 sacrifices by Indians because

01:01:18.460 they want to justify

01:01:19.420 today's human sacrifices

01:01:20.820 by liberal women.

01:01:25.280 That's why she's explaining

01:01:26.420 in her sing-songy voice

01:01:27.520 that the Incas were kind

01:01:28.780 when they executed human

01:01:29.900 beings.

01:01:31.120 Presumably, she also believes

01:01:32.100 that it's kind when women

01:01:33.320 execute their own children

01:01:34.540 today.

01:01:36.940 This is your child's education,

01:01:38.420 by the way, if you send

01:01:39.060 them to public school.

01:01:40.900 This is what they're going

01:01:41.760 to hear.

01:01:42.100 And I don't know what's

01:01:42.780 more deranged, the idea

01:01:43.740 that it's kind to leave

01:01:45.080 somebody to die on a

01:01:45.900 mountaintop.

01:01:46.400 As long as you give them

01:01:47.320 cocaine and hallucinogens

01:01:48.520 ahead of time,

01:01:49.160 or the idea that an

01:01:51.000 eight-year-old child's

01:01:51.800 sacrifice could in any sense

01:01:53.360 be considered a volunteer

01:01:55.520 who consented to this

01:01:57.480 practice.

01:02:00.440 Maybe that's the kind of

01:02:01.520 question that they wrestle

01:02:02.400 with in Emily Poole's

01:02:03.360 advanced placement history

01:02:04.500 class.

01:02:05.660 They probably spent hours

01:02:07.040 cooking up the most

01:02:07.920 disturbing and unhinged

01:02:09.500 arguments imaginable, all in

01:02:10.700 the service of feminism and

01:02:12.040 anti-white race hatred.

01:02:14.240 And for everyone else, people

01:02:15.660 who opted to homeschool their

01:02:17.180 children, Emily Poole's AP

01:02:18.480 class is yet another reminder

01:02:19.740 that you made the right

01:02:21.340 decision.

01:02:21.680 And that is why Emily

01:02:24.500 Poole and every other

01:02:25.580 lunatic who's defending

01:02:26.660 child's sacrifice is today

01:02:28.080 canceled.

01:02:30.280 That'll do it for the show

01:02:30.840 today.

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01:02:31.540 Thanks for listening.

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The Matt Walsh Show - August 06, 2025

Ep. 1636 - The Real Reason Democrats Are Panicking About Redistricting

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