The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1644 - This Case Is An Insane Miscarriage Of Justice

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, a man will spend the next 50 years of his life in prison after

00:00:03.460 shooting and killing a car thief. This case is an absurd miscarriage of justice. We'll do a deep

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00:02:42.920 off your first order. If you've ever been forced to take a concealed carry class,

00:02:46.780 the odds are pretty good that you thought the entire thing was a waste of time. These classes

00:02:51.140 are designed to make firearm ownership more of a hassle and more expensive so that you give up on

00:02:57.220 the idea of owning a gun. To the extent you receive any instruction at all, you're told some very basic

00:03:02.380 rules of self-defense. And the most important rule of all, of course, is that you can't use lethal force

00:03:08.020 unless you have a reasonable belief that you or someone else is in imminent danger of death or serious

00:03:13.400 bodily injury. So if someone is running away with your property, even if it's your car,

00:03:18.420 you can't shoot them. This is one of those rules that pretty much everyone is familiar with. If you

00:03:23.020 watch crime shows or pay attention to the news, you understand the concept as well as anyone.

00:03:27.460 You'd like to believe that this is, this is one of those fundamental common law principles that we

00:03:31.160 carried over from England and that Western societies have always had some kind of general rule like

00:03:36.880 this. But that's not remotely true. In fact, the opposite is true. As recently as the 1980s,

00:03:43.920 yes, the 1980s, the law of self-defense was very different in this country. Now, until the commentator

00:03:50.980 Jeremy Kaufman mentioned this the other day, I didn't really realize this, but it's an incredible

00:03:55.460 piece of history that everyone should be aware of. So here's where it started. A little before 11 p.m.

00:04:02.240 on October 3rd, 1974, two Memphis police officers were dispatched to a residential neighborhood to

00:04:07.720 investigate a prowler. And once they arrived, a witness told them that someone had just broken

00:04:12.300 into a house next door. One of the officers went around the back of the house to investigate.

00:04:16.820 And at that point, the officer saw someone named Edward Garner running across the backyard

00:04:20.300 and attempting to scale a six foot high chain link fence. Now, from the officer's perspective,

00:04:25.880 Garner was about five foot, seven inches tall, roughly 17 years old and unarmed. In reality,

00:04:32.520 it turned out he was 15. He wasn't directly threatening anyone at that precise moment,

00:04:36.460 as far as the officer could tell. But nevertheless, the officer was concerned that Garner, who had

00:04:40.360 probably just broken into a house, would escape into the neighborhood if he made it over the fence.

00:04:45.180 The officer recognized that burglary is a serious crime and it was important to prevent the suspect

00:04:49.640 from getting away. So within seconds, the officer shot Garner in the back of the head and killed him.

00:04:54.880 Now, very quickly, the Memphis Firearms Review Board and a local grand jury looked at this case

00:05:01.480 and they cleared the officer. And that's because Tennessee at the time had a law which allowed

00:05:06.300 police to use any means necessary, including lethal force, to effect a lawful arrest for a serious crime.

00:05:12.860 Years later, when the case wound up in a federal district court because the burglar's family filed a

00:05:17.740 lawsuit, the law was upheld. The court held that Garner had, quote, recklessly and heedlessly

00:05:22.620 attempted to vault over the fence to escape, thereby assuming the risk of being fired upon.

00:05:28.720 That was the law of the United States, as understood by federal courts, as of 1985.

00:05:35.780 If you run away after committing a felony, then it's legal for the police officers to shoot you.

00:05:41.080 Period. End of discussion.

00:05:42.260 The idea was that even if you weren't pointing a gun at someone at a particular moment, the mere fact

00:05:48.060 that you had committed a serious crime by itself made you a threat as you ran away from the scene.

00:05:53.100 And more than half of the states in the country had similar laws in the books.

00:05:56.840 And indeed, the common law tradition dating back centuries was that felons were fair game,

00:06:03.480 even if they were running away. In fact, all the way back in the year 1285, there was a famous law

00:06:08.180 in Winchester, England that actually required communities of private individuals to chase

00:06:12.740 and apprehend felons who fled the scene. And if the private citizens didn't catch the felon one way

00:06:16.940 or another, the community itself would be held liable for the damages caused by the felon's crime.

00:06:22.600 So it wasn't just the police who had this obligation. Everybody did.

00:06:27.260 Now, deterrence, of course, was the main rationale for this kind of policy. That's been true for

00:06:31.880 centuries. And it was true in states like Tennessee prior to 1985. After all, if felons know they can be

00:06:37.160 killed on the spot, if they commit a serious crime, then they'll commit fewer crimes. And the

00:06:42.900 idea was that criminals have no right to commit crimes in the first place. So the moment they make

00:06:49.500 the decision to commit the crime, they forfeit most of the legal protections that law-abiding

00:06:55.380 citizens enjoy, which is why in most places in the world for most of history, including in this

00:07:01.080 country, it was perfectly legal to shoot someone who was in the middle of committing a crime or who

00:07:06.660 had just committed a crime. And that made a lot of sense. The logic was, okay, don't want to get

00:07:13.320 shot? Well, don't commit a crime. Don't want to get shot? Don't try to steal my car. Don't break into

00:07:17.920 my house. You decided to do that. Now the law is not going to protect you. Sorry. And that was the

00:07:24.520 attitude for really most of the history of human civilization. And it's pretty simple.

00:07:29.280 But on appeal in 1985, the Supreme Court decided to overturn all of this precedent. They held for

00:07:36.680 the first time that under our constitution, fleeing suspects can't be shot unless they're posing a clear

00:07:44.400 imminent danger, as in pointing a gun directly at somebody's head or running with a gun, brandishing

00:07:50.300 it into a crowd of people, carrying a nuclear bomb or whatever. Something like that. This ruling had the

00:07:57.900 effect of instantly overruling half of the states in the country on this point. It was arguably as

00:08:03.240 undemocratic as some of the worst decisions in the Supreme Court's history, including Roe v. Wade.

00:08:09.260 But no one really talks about it. And indeed, this is a decision that you've probably never heard about

00:08:15.160 in any context, but it's one of the most important and catastrophic Supreme Court decisions that's ever

00:08:19.320 been issued. It places a constitutional burden on police officers to carefully assess whether a violent

00:08:25.600 criminal is supposedly an imminent threat at any particular moment. If you shoot a second too

00:08:30.000 early or too late, then your life is over. So what has happened is that the burden, you know, when

00:08:37.420 someone decides to commit a crime, they've created this burden. They've created this very difficult

00:08:44.440 situation. They've created it through their own actions. But now, whereas before, the burden was on the

00:08:50.980 criminal and the attitude was, well, you decided to do this. So if you get shot, that's your problem.

00:08:57.140 Now we've taken that burden and we transit it from the criminal over to the police officer or the

00:09:02.200 private citizen. Which means for the most part, you're expected to watch as thugs commit crimes

00:09:07.680 with impunity. Meanwhile, some of the worst people in the country were given a massive incentive to

00:09:12.080 commit more crimes knowing full well that no one's allowed to shoot them. They get the benefit of the

00:09:16.880 doubt under this new system. That really is what it is. For most of human history, in a case where

00:09:23.540 someone gets killed while committing a crime or after committing a crime, the benefit of the doubt

00:09:28.080 is always going to go to the police officer or the private citizen who was trying to apprehend them

00:09:34.120 or prevent them. Now the benefit of the doubt goes to the criminal and the criminals take full

00:09:40.220 advantage of it. This is a ruling that made this country far more dangerous than it ever was before

00:09:46.660 and everyone can understand why. While the court's decision in Garner's case only applied to police

00:09:51.620 officers, it had a significant impact on how states saw the private right of self-defense as well,

00:09:56.740 as well as how they handled citizens' arrests and that sort of thing. And it laid the groundwork for

00:10:01.020 a new pattern of discrimination in the judicial system. Specifically, it led to a wave of prosecutions

00:10:06.940 of police officers and private citizens who used deadly force against fleeing felons. It also

00:10:12.080 contributed to the decline of citizens' arrest laws all over the country. And it just so happens that

00:10:18.280 again and again, white defendants who violate the Supreme Court's revised rule on self-defense as of

00:10:23.960 1985 tend to face extremely long prison sentences. But non-white defendants are often given much more 0.71

00:10:30.260 lenient sentences, even when they commit indefensible acts of violence. And here's the latest example.

00:10:35.300 It involves a 29-year-old former Space Force sergeant named Oerst Schur. Around 11 p.m. on July 5th of

00:10:44.760 2023, Schur, who is not a police officer, was sleeping in his home in Aurora, Colorado, near the Buckley Space

00:10:52.820 Force base. And that's when he heard the car alarm going off on his wife's Hyundai Elantra. Now, this is

00:11:00.400 important. This was the third time that someone had tried to steal a car from his home.

00:11:06.240 So Schur grabbed his pistol, went outside, where he saw two people, dressed in all black, trying to break 0.99

00:11:12.720 into his wife's car. And so far, it's a story that sounds very similar to what happened to Jamie White, the

00:11:18.600 Infowars reporter who was recently murdered in Austin when he tried to confront his car thieves. But when Schur

00:11:24.780 confronted the people trying to break into his wife's car, there was a different outcome. The criminals fled in a

00:11:31.480 separate stolen vehicle. Now, in pre-1985 America, which is to say for the vast majority of the history

00:11:37.200 of this country and the world, Schur would have had every right to pursue those two criminals. And in

00:11:43.780 this case, that's exactly what he did. He didn't want to wait for a fourth attack on his home. He was

00:11:48.800 tired of this constantly happening. He's tired of living with this lawlessness, as most law-abiding

00:11:53.900 citizens are. So he got into the Elantra and he chased them. And as he did so, he fired several 0.67

00:12:00.900 shots into the getaway car, ultimately causing it to crash just a few blocks away. When the occupants

00:12:05.220 attempted to escape on foot, he continued to fire. And at that point, he killed 14-year-old Xavier Daniel

00:12:11.620 Kirk and injured his 13-year-old accomplice. And neither of the teenagers were carrying firearms,

00:12:17.520 apparently. Now, whatever you think of this man's actions, it shouldn't be controversial to point out

00:12:24.760 that in all likelihood, he probably saved the community from having to deal with a lot of

00:12:29.080 future criminal activity and violence. The two teenagers he shot were habitual car thieves.

00:12:33.760 Their parents completely failed them. The criminal justice system would have given them a slap on the

00:12:38.180 wrist, assuming the police ever got around to arresting them, which they probably wouldn't have done.

00:12:40.900 And then most likely they would have continued committing more crimes into adulthood until one way or

00:12:46.260 another, somebody died. I mean, that's how these things always go. And we all know that's true.

00:12:50.800 And if we're living in a country that values the rule of law, then we should be able to acknowledge

00:12:54.620 that. Say that out loud without any reservations. Even if you condemn what Scherr did, legally or

00:13:00.500 morally, you should still be able to acknowledge this. It's just a statistical reality. But states like

00:13:06.880 Colorado see things differently. Therefore, in one of the most farcical court proceedings you'll ever see,

00:13:12.120 Oris Scherr was just sentenced to 54 years in prison. He's not going to be eligible for parole until his 70s.

00:13:21.920 For shooting these two criminals, his life is now over. Because he was fed up of three times people are trying

00:13:28.660 to steal his car, finally did something about it. His life is over. And as we'll discuss in a minute, this is a

00:13:35.360 wildly disproportionate sentence when you compare it to other cases. But before we get into that, it needs to be said that

00:13:41.760 this whole trial was nauseating in every possible respect. People in Colorado had to watch several

00:13:47.900 pouty-faced news anchors lamenting the death of this, you know, 14-year-old boy as if he was a

00:13:53.820 treasured asset of the local community. And then came the victim impact statements at sentencing.

00:13:59.140 Watch.

00:14:00.340 54 years in prison. That's the sentence handed down today for the U.S. Space Force sergeant who shot and

00:14:06.140 killed a 14-year-old boy in July 2023. Prosecutors say Oris Scherr chased and then gunned down 14-year-old

00:14:14.100 Xavier Kirk and his 13-year-old friend on the night of July 5th, 2023, after reporting they stole his card.

00:14:21.640 Good to have you with us. I'm Micah Smith.

00:14:23.600 And I'm Jessica Porter. Kirk later died from a gunshot wound to the back and neck. The 13-year-old was also

00:14:30.200 shot in the back and survived. An Arapahoe County jury found Scherr guilty of second-degree murder two

00:14:36.220 months ago back in June. And today we heard victim impact statements from family members of Kirk.

00:14:42.080 We also heard from Savior's friend who was there that night and also shot by Scherr for the first time

00:14:48.120 today. Take a listen.

00:14:49.940 Today was a hard day. I mean, it's been, it's been a long two years.

00:14:57.240 I just, I just keep thinking like everybody was going up there talking about how great he was and

00:15:02.880 how good of a father he was. But then the thought that crosses my mind right after is if that's the

00:15:09.080 case, then why isn't Xavier here if he was just such a great person? The whole sentencing went like

00:15:14.800 this, of course. Watch. Yeah. Xavier Kirk's family and friends packed the courtroom today. They say they

00:15:22.680 feel like this, a 54-year sentence was justice served, though they will still have to live with

00:15:28.580 the grief that they carry with them every day for the rest of their lives. And we got to hear some of

00:15:34.140 those emotional statements today. I'm happy that he's finally put behind bars for killing my son,

00:15:42.580 even though I wish he would have got 80 years. But at the end of the day, he's still locked up

00:15:48.720 and my son got justice. A sense of justice for Xavier Kirk's family and friends after former

00:15:56.160 U.S. Space Force Sergeant Orist Shore was sentenced to 54 years in prison.

00:16:03.180 Well, you know, a sense of justice would actually involve that mother being thrown in prison. 1.00

00:16:08.620 She somehow managed to raise a career criminal who wasn't even 15 years old.

00:16:12.400 I mean, it cannot be overstated just how horrible of a mother you have to be for your 14-year-old son 0.72

00:16:22.020 to already be a habitual career criminal. And that is or should be a crime all by itself.

00:16:30.960 It doesn't happen without an extraordinary amount of terrible, unforgivably bad parenting.

00:16:35.320 But again, this woman is telling us how to define justice, and we're supposed to listen to that.

00:16:41.880 And things didn't end there. Somehow the victim impact statements, as they're called,

00:16:46.380 became even more embarrassing as the proceedings went along. Watch.

00:16:51.000 Shackled in an inmate-striped jumpsuit, Orist Shore heard from those who he devastated.

00:16:56.380 I can't express enough how much pain and grief that we're going to for two years to pass by

00:17:03.360 and still having the absence of my nephew. And the memories that we have of him will be cherished forever.

00:17:13.460 Each recounted July 6, 2023, the night Xavier Kirk, just 14, was shot and killed.

00:17:19.900 His friend survived a gunshot to the back. The duo had attempted to take a car that wasn't theirs,

00:17:25.520 a car owned by Orist Shore.

00:17:27.460 You know, kids make, you know, make mistakes. And so I always teach my kids and my family,

00:17:35.300 like my nephews and nieces, about consequences and repercussions.

00:17:40.120 We're not trying to excuse any wrongdoing that, Xavier, or Ron we're involved in.

00:17:45.560 The part that's messed up is that Orist Shore's car was never stolen.

00:17:49.160 Yes, the part that's messed up is that Orist Shore's car was never stolen.

00:17:54.840 So that's the part that's messed up.

00:17:57.580 The fact that Orist Shore woke up, went outside, and interrupted the car thief is what's messed up.

00:18:02.680 That's the part of the story that, you know, really is supposed to blow our mind, I guess.

00:18:05.940 Meanwhile, the fact that you have a 14-year-old and a 13-year-old dressed in all black,

00:18:09.540 stealing every car they can find, is just a mistake.

00:18:13.440 Innocent little blooper. 0.94

00:18:14.500 But a kid that age doesn't make a mistake like that, after all.

00:18:18.800 One minute they're hiding the silverware and taking cookies from the cookie jar,

00:18:21.920 and next minute they're committing grand theft auto.

00:18:24.940 What are you going to do?

00:18:26.520 What could the parents possibly have done to prevent this?

00:18:29.420 Aside from just, like, being parents.

00:18:31.700 Being actual parents.

00:18:34.060 And practically everyone at the sentencing made that same claim.

00:18:37.580 They suggested it was all just a big mistake.

00:18:40.260 Watch.

00:18:40.540 Though they never took the car, Shur chased them down, gunning down the unarmed teens.

00:18:47.100 Even the judge said, Shur, a discharged soldier should have known not to take lethal action that night.

00:18:53.220 Kids make mistakes, but adultery is supposed to be the ones to guide us through it.

00:18:57.740 The prosecution read a statement from the boy who survived.

00:19:01.160 That night, my friend and I made a mistake.

00:19:03.720 We took a car that didn't belong to us.

00:19:05.880 I'm not proud of that, and I've had to live with the consequences of that choice.

00:19:09.620 But no mistake, especially one that didn't involve any violence should ever lead to someone being hunted down, shot, and killed.

00:19:17.600 And no matter what we did that night, I didn't deserve to be shot, and Xavier did not deserve to die.

00:19:22.760 Well, that's the whole issue, isn't it?

00:19:26.400 That's the big question right there.

00:19:28.220 What punishment do you deserve if you dressed up in all black and tried to steal someone's car?

00:19:31.920 If you don't deserve to get shot, then what should happen to you?

00:19:36.140 What should the consequence be?

00:19:37.720 If you take someone's car, in many cases, you're seriously impacting their life.

00:19:41.820 So what should the punishment be for doing that repeatedly to other people?

00:19:47.300 And if there were real, and as an extension of that question, if there were real punishments, like maybe part of the problem is that there aren't, there aren't.

00:19:58.560 So you're saying, well, the punishment shouldn't be this.

00:20:00.320 Okay, what should it be?

00:20:03.520 Because the problem right now is that there's no punishment.

00:20:06.640 That you've got these, you know, kids, these teens, quote unquote, running around committing crimes, and there's zero punishment.

00:20:14.460 There's zero consequence.

00:20:17.780 And so then it leads to this.

00:20:20.400 So maybe we need to take a look at that as well.

00:20:25.280 What is clear is that Western nations are suddenly having a very difficult time answering all these questions.

00:20:30.360 In Canada, a 44-year-old homeowner is now facing aggravated assault charges for beating up a thug who broke into his home.

00:20:37.460 They arrested a man for defending himself against a home evasion.

00:20:40.280 Apparently, the idea is that the man who lived in the home took things too far by sending the home invader to the hospital.

00:20:46.720 He should have just allowed himself to get murdered, I guess.

00:20:48.720 That's the position that the CBC, which is Canada's state media, is taking.

00:20:53.700 Now, for his part, Doug Ford, who runs Ontario, just spoke out about the case.

00:20:57.200 Listen.

00:20:58.740 Everyone hear about the story in Lindsay?

00:21:00.880 So this criminal that's wanted by the police breaks into this guy's house.

00:21:06.640 This guy gives him a beating.

00:21:09.120 And this guy gets charged.

00:21:10.960 And the other guy gets charged.

00:21:12.680 But, like, something is broken.

00:21:15.440 I know if someone breaks into my house or someone else's,

00:21:18.020 you're going to fight for your life.

00:21:20.560 This guy has a weapon.

00:21:21.560 You're going to use any force you possibly can to protect your family.

00:21:27.020 I'm telling you, I know everyone would.

00:21:29.000 I'd be scared to break into Kevon's.

00:21:30.880 He's like a linebacker. 0.98

00:21:32.700 He'd beat the living crap out of the guy, as he should. 0.98

00:21:35.700 Because, no, enough's enough here. 0.99

00:21:41.240 Violence and breaking in people's homes, putting guns in their heads.

00:21:45.900 And guess what?

00:21:47.020 Some bleeding-heart judge.

00:21:48.820 Little Johnny.

00:21:50.080 He didn't have a good upbringing.

00:21:51.480 So we're going to let him out on bail five more times because he's on his fifth, you know, being let out on bail five times just to go do the same thing the next day.

00:22:01.340 I'll tell you one thing.

00:22:02.860 I get more calls than anyone in the country.

00:22:05.060 People are done with this.

00:22:07.300 They're absolutely done.

00:22:09.200 They're finished.

00:22:09.800 Yeah, people are tired of this.

00:22:12.760 That's true everywhere in the West.

00:22:14.460 So what's going to change and how is it going to change exactly?

00:22:17.720 In 1985, when the punishment for committing felonies was lethal force, the Supreme Court explained that we were savages.

00:22:24.460 We were terrible people for allowing criminals to be shot in the back, even when they weren't posing an imminent threat or whatever.

00:22:31.140 Okay, fine.

00:22:31.780 So what system do we have now in the United States?

00:22:34.720 Do we have an improvement over the system from 1985?

00:22:38.420 That's a rhetorical question.

00:22:39.960 Obviously, watch.

00:22:41.860 New developments in a story we've been covering closely for months.

00:22:44.960 A judge handed the youngest girl in that deadly carjacking near Nats Park the maximum sentence.

00:22:51.020 Two girls killed Uber Eats driver Mohamed Anwar in that crash.

00:22:55.460 She was 13 at the time, now 14.

00:22:58.020 She'll be in youth detention for the next seven years. 0.85

00:23:00.640 And as our Bruce Lashan reports, she has to be released when she turns 21. 0.95

00:23:06.180 Prosecutors say that the girl has shown no remorse.

00:23:09.460 Even muttering to herself when she thought no one was listening about the man she had just killed.

00:23:16.680 If you'd just given me my blanking phone, you'd still be alive. 1.00

00:23:21.800 But no, you wouldn't put my damn phone in your pocket. 0.98

00:23:27.860 Prosecutors say she may have been the younger of the two teen carjackers, but they say she was just as responsible. 0.99

00:23:34.600 Lying to bystanders who had come to help Mohamed Anwar, they say, grabbing the steering wheel, jamming the Honda Ford into gear, and yelling at the other girl to go.

00:23:45.760 Prosecutors say Anwar was crushed when the car door slammed into a tree box and killed when he was thrown to the sidewalk right in front of the ballpark when the girls made a sharp right turn and flipped the car on its driver's side.

00:24:01.840 Her lawyer says she is remorseful.

00:24:04.660 He asked the judge to detain her for just four more years until she turns 18, suggesting she has impulse control issues and has become more thoughtful about her actions since the tragedy.

00:24:20.260 So she brutally murders an Uber Eats driver in broad daylight and steals the car. 1.00

00:24:26.240 One of the most horrific crimes imaginable, the man's drag to his death on camera, entire family's destroyed, she has no remorse whatsoever.

00:24:32.980 Her lawyer's best defense is that she has issues with impulse control, and after all that, she gets a seven-year sentence.

00:24:38.740 She'll be out by 21 years old at the latest. 0.99

00:24:41.920 Can anyone defend that?

00:24:43.480 I mean, even if you're playing devil's advocate, is there any logic behind this whatsoever?

00:24:46.400 And there are many, many cases along these lines.

00:24:50.720 Here's a recent story from Yahoo, for example.

00:24:52.820 This is about a shooting that took place shortly after the George Floyd hysteria began.

00:24:56.580 Quote, William Wilson, a biracial black man, fired his legal handgun at a pickup truck of white teens who he says were yelling racial slurs at him and trying to run him off and his white girlfriend off the road near Statesboro, Georgia.

00:25:10.220 One of those bullets struck and killed 17-year-old Haley Hutchinson, who was in the backseat of the truck.

00:25:14.720 The shooter told police that he had seen, quote, a truck full of white males driving the car at me and are flipping me off and yelling racial slurs.

00:25:22.820 So in response, he shot and killed an unarmed 17-year-old woman, someone who was in the backseat of the truck.

00:25:29.240 So then what happened next?

00:25:30.720 Did the shooter receive 54 years in prison?

00:25:33.340 44?

00:25:34.080 34?

00:25:34.660 24?

00:25:35.160 14?

00:25:36.320 As it turns out, he received 10 years in prison, with the potential to be released several years earlier.

00:25:41.300 So on the one hand, you have a Space Force sergeant shooting criminals committing grand theft auto.

00:25:47.380 On the other hand, you have a black man shooting a white 17-year-old woman who, by his account, was a passenger in a car that was shouting nasty words at him.

00:25:56.120 One of those crimes is punished by 54 years in prison.

00:25:58.900 The other barely gets less than 20% of that sentence.

00:26:02.360 Here's another example.

00:26:05.460 Who could forget the case of C.C. McDonald?

00:26:07.940 C.C. McDonald is a man who identifies as a woman.

00:26:10.020 He stabbed and killed an unarmed 47-year-old man named Dean Schmitz.

00:26:13.900 After an altercation involving allegedly transphobic insults and some physical contact,

00:26:19.240 C.C. used scissors to penetrate the victim's chest three inches deep, puncturing his heart.

00:26:23.080 When police arrived, C.C. reportedly claimed that the man had charged into the scissors and impaled himself,

00:26:29.520 which happens all the time, as we know.

00:26:32.300 And guess how that turned out?

00:26:33.200 C.C. McDonald was offered a plea bargain.

00:26:35.420 He pleaded to manslaughter, received just 41 months in jail.

00:26:39.640 Not 54 years, 41 months.

00:26:42.440 He got fewer months than Orist Schur got years.

00:26:46.560 And now he's received a whole bunch of, you know, awards from the LGBT industry and all of that.

00:26:53.080 Now, here's the point.

00:26:54.480 Even if we concede that the Space Force sergeant's case doesn't qualify under the current law of self-defense,

00:27:00.860 which it doesn't, we would concede that.

00:27:03.660 I mean, that's pretty clear.

00:27:05.960 There's still a very obvious problem here.

00:27:09.100 Our system of laws provides that prosecutors and judges have an extraordinary amount of discretion

00:27:15.200 when they're deciding how to charge and how to sentence criminal defendants.

00:27:20.180 And this discretion is used all the time in the name of compassion for violent criminals,

00:27:26.040 but it's never used for men like Orist Schur.

00:27:29.860 In every case, compassion only applies to the worst and most dangerous kinds of people.

00:27:35.000 In this country, you'll be punished more severely for killing someone who's trying to steal your car

00:27:40.300 than you'll be punished for killing someone while trying to steal their car.

00:27:45.480 That's the whole dynamic.

00:27:47.940 And if you don't see the fundamental problem with that dynamic, I don't know how else to explain it.

00:27:54.320 So even if you think that this guy shouldn't have done it, it was terrible,

00:27:58.580 okay, well, why can't he get, why can't he get the same kind of slap on the wrist,

00:28:02.900 compassionate sentence that we give to actual violent murderers all the time?

00:28:07.980 Probation, time served, manslaughter, pled down.

00:28:11.100 Why doesn't he get that?

00:28:14.020 The worst people in the country get those kinds of deals all the time,

00:28:17.440 and then they let out back on the street and they kill more people.

00:28:20.400 Does anyone really think that if Orist Schur was released, that he'd be a threat?

00:28:25.420 Let me ask you this.

00:28:26.220 This is a good test.

00:28:28.520 No matter how you feel about what he did, you condemn it, you think it was wrong.

00:28:32.840 Would you be worried about living next to him?

00:28:35.280 Would you?

00:28:36.480 I wouldn't.

00:28:37.780 You know why I wouldn't be worried about it?

00:28:38.960 Because I'm not going to steal his car.

00:28:39.860 I'd be worried about living next to him and then breaking into his house or stealing his car.

00:28:44.780 But I wouldn't be worried at all about having a guy like that in my neighborhood.

00:28:48.940 I mean, this is a guy that's shown that he's willing to use violent force to defend himself against people

00:28:53.320 that are trying to commit crimes against him.

00:28:55.280 I'm not going to do that.

00:28:56.420 So, in fact, if anything, I'd probably feel safer with him with a guy like that in the neighborhood.

00:29:02.560 And yet, we give these light sentences all the time to people who, we all agree,

00:29:06.320 no one wants to live next to those people.

00:29:07.660 Right?

00:29:09.440 The kind of person where they commit a crime that, okay, you release them,

00:29:12.560 like they're almost certainly going to commit more crimes.

00:29:14.140 Is that the system of justice that the Supreme Court had in mind 40 years ago

00:29:19.700 when they ruled that criminals should be allowed to rob houses and then jump fences to escape?

00:29:23.960 It's hard to say.

00:29:25.860 But that's the system of justice we have now.

00:29:28.560 And if there's ever been a moment to revisit this travesty,

00:29:31.440 as the Supreme Court has revisited many other terrible rulings in its history,

00:29:35.120 then the case of Space Force Sergeant Orris Schur presents the perfect opportunity.

00:29:41.900 54 years in prison for this crime, when so many other violent degenerates are walking free,

00:29:46.800 is so obviously absurd and unjustifiable that it violates our Constitution,

00:29:50.380 as well as our basic sense of morality and justice.

00:29:53.940 Orris Schur may not be a paragon of virtue.

00:29:55.960 He may have violated the laws, as it currently stands.

00:29:58.060 But if you're pretending to put on a sad face when you talk about the criminals he shot

00:30:02.000 as you defend the constant release of violent carjackers into American communities,

00:30:06.520 then you're more culpable than he ever will be.

00:30:10.600 The law should recognize that.

00:30:12.480 The law used to recognize that.

00:30:15.060 And therefore, before more lives are destroyed for the benefit of anarchists and criminals

00:30:18.320 with low impulse control, the law must change.

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00:32:08.540 Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro announced on Monday the deployment of 4.5 million militiamen

00:32:13.780 militiamen throughout the country, assuring that no empire will touch the sacred soil

00:32:17.380 of Venezuela after the U.S. doubled the reward for information leading to its arrest and increased

00:32:21.640 the number of troops sailing around Latin America and the Caribbean.

00:32:24.660 Last week, the U.S. government confirmed to CNN that it had ordered naval movements in

00:32:28.840 the region to contain the threat from drug trafficking groups.

00:32:32.100 On Monday, Reuters reported that three U.S. Navy destroyers and some 4,000 military personnel

00:32:36.780 would arrive at the edge of Venezuela's territorial waters within the next 36 hours.

00:32:40.900 On Tuesday, a U.S. Department of Defense official said there are currently no ships in the area,

00:32:46.480 although that's apparently changing.

00:32:49.400 White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt was asked Tuesday about a possible troop deployment

00:32:52.660 to Venezuela.

00:32:53.860 She said, President Donald Trump has been very clear and consistent.

00:32:56.760 He's prepared to use every element of American power to stop drugs from flooding into our country

00:33:00.100 and to bring those responsible to justice.

00:33:03.620 So tensions are rising between the U.S. and Venezuela.

00:33:06.020 Trump is sending U.S. warships to the waters just off Venezuela.

00:33:10.900 The Venezuelan dictator Maduro is not happy, telling us that we better not dare step on

00:33:15.940 the sacred soil of Venezuela.

00:33:19.160 And the media are claiming that we're on the verge of war.

00:33:21.560 Drudge had a big headline yesterday, war with Venezuela, question mark.

00:33:27.260 And I will say, as the non-interventionist guy who famously doesn't care about other countries

00:33:33.780 and doesn't want to get involved in their problems as the American chauvinist,

00:33:41.400 not just America first, but America chauvinist,

00:33:44.440 I fully support what Trump is doing here because this is America first.

00:33:50.020 This is American chauvinism.

00:33:53.480 American chauvinism is not just we're first, it's we're better than all of you,

00:33:57.100 which is the attitude you should have about your own country.

00:33:59.980 And in our country, it happens to be true. 0.55

00:34:03.040 So we're going to use our strength, our power to impose our will for the sake of our national

00:34:07.240 interests and to protect our country and our people.

00:34:09.320 That's how it should be.

00:34:11.200 That's how American might, American force should be used. 0.66

00:34:13.580 And I made this point a week or two ago.

00:34:16.980 There's a reason I've never described myself as anti-war.

00:34:22.540 There are a lot of non-interventionist types who I often agree with.

00:34:27.040 And I find myself agreeing with them on issues all the time.

00:34:31.540 But they will call themselves anti-war.

00:34:33.980 They'll frame the argument against, say, U.S. involvement in Ukraine

00:34:37.860 or U.S. attacks on Iran at the behest of Israel.

00:34:41.380 They'll frame it as an anti-war position. 1.00

00:34:44.020 And I think that's wrong because being anti-war is stupid. 1.00

00:34:48.720 War is sometimes necessary. 0.99

00:34:50.260 It's like claiming that you're anti-violence.

00:34:51.780 It's a meaningless position.

00:34:53.520 Obviously, sometimes violence is necessary.

00:34:56.320 I'm against someone getting robbed and killed, but that's not because I'm anti-violence.

00:35:01.060 I'm anti-unjust violence inflicted against innocent people.

00:35:04.420 That's what I'm anti.

00:35:06.300 But if the guy doing the robbing and killing was himself killed in the process,

00:35:09.520 I'd be in favor of that violence. 0.68

00:35:11.660 The violence inflicted on him, that violence would be good.

00:35:14.900 And war can be good. 1.00

00:35:17.760 Now, I don't think the U.S. will go to war with Venezuela.

00:35:19.720 Venezuela will have no choice but to do what we tell them. 1.00

00:35:22.380 They're a small, weak, pathetic, puny, poor country. 1.00

00:35:26.740 And so they just have to do what we say. 1.00

00:35:29.100 A war with Venezuela would last about four minutes.

00:35:31.540 I don't think it will come to that.

00:35:32.680 But I am in favor of using force, using American might, American warships to get what we want.

00:35:39.300 Because in this case, what we want is to protect ourselves, our homeland, our people,

00:35:44.620 which is very different from getting involved in far-flung conflicts for the sake of the national interests of other countries.

00:35:53.700 Clear distinction there.

00:35:54.500 All right, a Harvard researcher found himself bruised and bloodied after trying to tell a group of quote-unquote teens,

00:36:04.240 just teens as the media calls them, to stop being loud in a movie theater.

00:36:09.340 Told them to stop being loud, and they didn't like that.

00:36:12.420 And so apparently they waited for him after the movie, and they blocked his exit, and they beat him to a pulp.

00:36:18.540 Here's a local news report about that.

00:36:20.380 It just punched me. I didn't fight back.

00:36:24.320 That's why 35-year-old Tiago Renz, a Harvard researcher from Brazil, has this black eye.

00:36:30.340 He says it happened early Thursday morning inside the Boston Common AMC Theater.

00:36:35.260 A group of teenagers were being loud, clapping, and screaming, so he asked them to be quiet.

00:36:40.340 When that didn't work, he tried again.

00:36:42.600 I asked them for respect.

00:36:45.380 I asked them to leave the theater because we just wanted to watch the movie.

00:36:50.680 After the 9.45 p.m. horror movie Weapons finished,

00:36:54.480 the violence offscreen started as the crowd was leaving the second floor theater.

00:36:59.100 They made like a wall, so I tried to pass, to leave, and they couldn't let me pass.

00:37:07.060 His friend didn't want to show her face, but tells us what she remembers seeing and hearing.

00:37:11.520 Let's go outside to solve this. That's what I remember. When I looked back, they were already

00:37:18.260 like hitting him. 0.78

00:37:19.400 In the head. 1.00

00:37:19.940 In the head. And then like, I saw four. I think there were more. I think five, maybe.

00:37:25.540 I was like scared, and I just faced the wall, and I just protected my face and my head.

00:37:34.700 His friend ran for help, but had no luck at first. Eventually, she found a cleaning lady

00:37:39.460 who led them to a security guard. Then after 30 minutes or more, the police came to get my

00:37:46.500 statement. According to the police report, Rent said he was assaulted at 12.15. When officers arrived

00:37:52.480 around 12.45, they noticed a minor injury to his nose. The report also says it should be noted the

00:37:59.280 victim was already seen by Boston EMS prior to the officer's arrival. The theater doors were locked

00:38:05.360 when police arrived, so they couldn't get a statement.

00:38:07.960 So, uh, the quote-unquote teens were being loud and obnoxious during the movie, during the movie

00:38:14.380 Weapons. Decent film, by the way. I actually saw that last week, and, um, interesting story told in a

00:38:21.900 creative and unique way. Surprisingly funny, actually. It's a build as a horror movie. I didn't think it was

00:38:27.720 really that scary. It's disturbing. More disturbing than scary in certain parts.

00:38:32.160 Um, if you're squeamish about violence in movies, if you're squeamish about gore, then definitely

00:38:36.220 don't watch it. There's not a lot of violence, but it's, it, there are a few bursts of violence in

00:38:40.440 the film that are pretty intense and, uh, disturbing. Overall, though, it's, uh, uh, you know, I, I give it

00:38:46.660 a two thumbs up. It's, it's a net positive when original films, original stories are doing well in the

00:38:52.360 box office. I'm, I'm always happy to see that. Even if I don't like the movie, just to have an

00:38:57.060 original film doing well, is that's, that's a good sign. And I did like this movie. I thought

00:39:01.760 it was good. Anyway, um, what were we talking about? Yeah. Well, it's, it's, it's, um, net positive

00:39:09.060 to have a movie like this in theaters. Not a net positive, though, when you can't watch the movie

00:39:12.900 because teens are ruining the experience for everybody. Um, and here's my question.

00:39:22.220 Anyone who's been to a theater recently has probably experienced something like this.

00:39:25.520 Um, hopefully not getting assaulted, but the theater going experience has been ruined

00:39:32.140 because of this sort of thing. And if you've ever been in a theater where there's an unruly

00:39:36.740 group of quote unquote teens, you know, you've, you've looked around and you've asked the same

00:39:43.140 question that everyone else is asking that I'm sure this guy was asking before he decided

00:39:46.640 to speak up, which is why is this being allowed? Why are you allowing this? You're a theater.

00:39:54.540 This is your private property. Why are you just letting this happen? Where is security?

00:39:59.980 Where are the police? Why aren't these people being escorted out of the building?

00:40:05.240 Instead, they're allowed to carry on this way while everyone else just sits and takes it.

00:40:08.940 Or you can speak up and say something, but then you run the risk of getting gang tackled and

00:40:13.640 pummeled, which is what happened to this guy. So it's really, it puts, it puts everybody else,

00:40:20.220 it puts the good, normal, decent people in an impossible situation

00:40:23.640 because you can sit and you can get up and leave. And so now you've just paid for a movie that you

00:40:31.040 can't even watch. Your night is ruined, right? You wanted to go out on a date with your girlfriend

00:40:35.300 and your wife and you set everything up. You got the babysitters and now you got your, your night

00:40:40.900 has to be over because of these hoodlums. Really? So that's not a great solution. Or you can try to 0.83

00:40:47.800 ignore them and just sit there and not say anything, but now it's ruining movie experience.

00:40:52.300 And also now you feel like, uh, you know, you feel like a wimp because you're not speaking up.

00:40:59.040 On the other hand, you know, if you do speak up, you know, it's going to be seven on one and you're

00:41:03.560 not John wick. So, uh, this is not an action movie and you're just going to get your ass beat. 0.99

00:41:08.460 Like that's, that's what, that's what happens in real life when seven people decide to assault you. 0.97

00:41:12.680 Um, so it, it, it, it puts normal, decent people in impossible situations and it doesn't have to

00:41:23.080 be this way. That is what makes it so incredibly frustrating. It doesn't have to be this way.

00:41:28.660 It would be easy to solve these kinds of problems. Easy. Actually not to, it's not one of those things

00:41:36.620 where it's a difficult problem to solve. It's a, there's a lot of, it's not difficult. It's actually

00:41:40.220 really easy when people are, we could make it so that you didn't have public nuisances like this

00:41:46.220 anymore. We can do that overnight easily. No problem. When people are being public nuisances,

00:41:52.100 uh, causing a disturbance, you kick them out. And if they refuse to leave, which probably they will,

00:42:00.180 then you arrest them. We have prisons in this society. We have police officers, we have prisons,

00:42:05.660 we have jail. We, you know, we have, we, we, we have a way of dealing with this. And so we could

00:42:11.300 do that as a society. We could arrest these people, charge them with crimes, real crimes,

00:42:15.200 real consequences. I don't care if they're unruly teens. Oh, he's only 16 years old. Okay. You're,

00:42:22.460 you're, you're part of an unruly crowd, um, causing a disturbance, refusing to leave.

00:42:27.980 There's, I mean, be creative. You could come up with like 20 different charges to put on someone

00:42:36.000 like that. If you wanted to get creative, rather than being creative the other way to find ways to

00:42:41.060 not charge these people, find ways to charge them, find extra things to charge them with.

00:42:47.600 Find a way that if someone causes a scene like that at the movie theater,

00:42:50.140 that they're going to be in jail for like the next year. They just like cause real problems in their

00:42:55.700 lives because they decided to act this way. We could do that as a society. That's easy.

00:43:02.720 When you have someone acting like this, charge them with crimes, real crimes, real consequences.

00:43:07.000 And the next time you have a group of teens causing a disturbance in a movie theater,

00:43:10.360 arrest them too. Just keep arresting them, punish them, punish them severely. And if you do that and 0.61

00:43:16.680 you do it consistently, the behavior will stop. It really is that simple. It's a, it's a,

00:43:20.000 it is a choice to allow this stuff. We can make a different choice as a society. We can,

00:43:23.780 you know, we can talk about cultural factors and other things leading to this sort of behavior.

00:43:29.240 No fathers in the home and blah, blah, blah. But I, you know, that's not a, that's, that's real.

00:43:34.660 Those are real problems. But the most basic problem, the reason we get this bad behavior

00:43:40.340 is that it is not punished. So when we're trying to assess, why is this happening? Why are people

00:43:47.760 acting like this? Why can't I go to a movie theater anymore without having to deal with

00:43:51.600 this kind of stuff? We could spend all day dissecting all the reasons, but the number

00:43:57.260 one reason we don't need to get past number one on a list, which is the behavior is not being

00:44:02.180 punished. So punish it and it will stop.

00:44:06.600 Um, and it really is that simple, but we don't, what's going to happen to these teens

00:44:16.840 who not only causes disturbance, but physically assaulted someone, what's going to happen to

00:44:21.340 them? Will any of them face any real consequences at all? Will any of them spend more than a night

00:44:27.860 in jail? I think we all know the answer is no to that. It doesn't have to be no. It doesn't have to

00:44:34.760 be. You can make an example of them. You could say, okay, guess what guys? Congratulations.

00:44:41.320 We're going to do everything we can to make sure you're in jail for the next 10 years.

00:44:46.520 Oh, but you can't do that. I had plans for my life. I wanted to go play. Sorry. Well,

00:44:51.300 plans over plans canceled. Yeah. You just screwed your life up. Sorry. Too bad. Go cry about it.

00:44:57.300 We don't care. We're going to make you an example to the next group that comes along.

00:45:01.040 Um, we could do that. We used to do that. Um, speaking of crying over the weekend,

00:45:09.940 there was a, an emotional scene at a university of Nebraska football press conference. One of the

00:45:15.140 players, the punter named Archie Wilson started crying because he, uh, missed his, uh, his, uh,

00:45:22.400 misses his family is far away from his family and he misses them. And, uh, he got emotional about it.

00:45:27.780 Let's watch that. Yeah. I love, I love it. I love it a lot.

00:45:36.420 Yeah. I've, I've got two little brothers and my mom and dad and I, yeah, that's the tough part

00:45:41.140 about being here. I love them a lot and I miss them, but it's, uh, I mean, they know this is

00:45:46.680 what's best for me and it's, it's good. I can still talk to them plenty over the phone and they're

00:45:50.560 coming here to see the first, uh, first few games. So I'm looking forward to that.

00:45:57.520 Cool. Thanks guys. Great meeting you all.

00:46:00.640 Now a number of people reacted to this on X, including, including some women like Taylor 0.78

00:46:04.540 here who we'll put up on the screen. She wrote, wish men understood how attractive it is when

00:46:09.560 they can feel and openly show their emotions instead of acting like a sociopathic brick wall.

00:46:14.940 And that comment has 4 million views, thousands of likes. A bunch of women are echoing that 1.00

00:46:20.360 sentiment, that idea that they find it attractive when men cry like, like Archie did in the video.

00:46:26.440 Now, I just want to be clear. I'm not going to give Archie a hard time. I'm not making fun of the

00:46:30.300 kid. He loves his family. He misses them. It's good. I mean, it's good that you love and miss your

00:46:35.400 family and you're close to them. So I'm not picking on him at all. Just to be clear, what I want to do

00:46:41.340 is respond to the comment from Taylor and other women saying similar things. 0.99

00:46:46.560 And so I'm just playing the video as the setup for the comments because we need to know what

00:46:49.800 she's responding to. And I feel like I have to respond to it because it was just yesterday that

00:46:55.880 we talked on this show about the newly minted term called mankeeping, which is a word that liberal

00:47:02.840 women came up with to describe their frustration with men who rely on them for emotional support and

00:47:08.280 burden them with emotional labor, as they call it.

00:47:11.340 unpaid emotional labor, if you can believe it. And here's the problem. It's the same women who 1.00

00:47:17.660 complain about mankeeping who also say that they want men to cry and open up more. These are the

00:47:23.660 same women, the same people who make both claims. In both cases, these are things that liberal feminist 1.00

00:47:29.700 women say. Now, traditional conservative women don't. They don't use terms like mankeeping. 1.00

00:47:36.460 And they also don't claim, usually, that they like to see men cry. So there's no contradiction there.

00:47:44.780 Liberal women make both of these claims. They say they want men to be more emotionally vulnerable, 0.98

00:47:51.020 but also they're exhausted by men who are emotionally vulnerable. How could both be true?

00:47:57.840 How could that be? Well, they aren't both true. It's a trap. And it's unfair. You know, it's unfair to

00:48:08.000 guys, especially young guys who are trying to figure all this out. The age old question of what do women 1.00

00:48:15.520 want, which has not always been the easiest thing for men to answer. It's never been harder than it is

00:48:20.940 now, because now you have this kind of messaging. One day, it's like all the women on social media 1.00

00:48:27.120 are saying, yeah, we want men to cry. The very next day, it's all the mankeeping. We don't want to be,

00:48:31.860 keep your emotions to yourself. Well, it's like, which is it? So I just want to warn men about this

00:48:43.620 and, and let you know that, um, it's a trap. Don't fall for it. They're trying to lure you into

00:48:51.720 opening up and showing your emotions just so they can turn around and accuse you of being a needy

00:48:55.600 man child. I mean, that's, that's the game that women like this are playing. That's the game. I'm 1.00

00:48:59.380 afraid to say that's the game that liberal women play because here's the reality. No matter what any 1.00

00:49:07.680 woman claims, none of them, none of them, period, zero of them actually find it attractive to see

00:49:18.060 a man cry. Now they may find it understandable in certain limited circumstances, right? You lost a

00:49:25.760 close family member, that sort of thing. I'm not saying that they'll hate you for crying in that

00:49:30.180 situation, unless they're just awful people, but, um, you know, they'll, they'll understand it in a

00:49:36.340 case like that, but they won't actively find it attractive. And in most, in most cases,

00:49:43.740 seeing you cry will be repulsive to them. They are repulsed by it. Now, sure. If, if, if you aren't

00:49:53.500 in a relationship, that's, that's another source of the confusion here is that if you're not in a

00:49:58.240 relationship with them and you're just a stranger and they see you cry about something, then, then maybe

00:50:04.100 you'll get a kind of, oh, poor guy reaction. But if they're in a relationship with you, your tears,

00:50:10.020 most of the time, there are always exceptions. Most of the time, your tears will be actively

00:50:15.800 disgusting to them. Okay. Now, how do I know that? How, how could I, how could I just say that

00:50:22.580 given that I'm not a woman? Well, because it's nature. It's, they're biologically wired to find a

00:50:29.600 man's tears, grossly unappealing. And that's because every woman is looking for a man who is 0.91

00:50:33.220 stable, strong, and who makes her feel safe. Men are not looking for that in a woman, which is why 0.97

00:50:39.500 we are not disgusted by women crying. It may be annoying sometimes. I mean, if women cry over dumb 1.00

00:50:45.500 things and cry too much, it could get annoying, but a little irritating, but generally it's fine. 0.97

00:50:51.640 It doesn't, it's, it's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's expected because we aren't looking for a woman 1.00

00:51:00.980 to make us feel safe and protected. No man is looking for that in a woman. It's just not a 1.00

00:51:06.220 quality that a man's looking for. We aren't looking for a woman to provide a sense of security and 1.00

00:51:11.960 stability in our lives. Um, and so it, it, these, these, uh, unregulated displays of emotion are not

00:51:22.840 troubling for us. But the problem with crying is that if you're a man is that you are making yourself

00:51:29.380 look weak, unstable, and unsure. Again, most of it, I'm not going to keep, I'm not going to, I said most

00:51:34.600 of the time, that's the qualifier. I'm not going to keep saying it. Um, and so there's just no way

00:51:40.760 that a woman can find that attractive. It would be like if a man claimed that he finds it attractive 0.58

00:51:46.860 when a woman is cruel or uncaring to children, right? It's, it's impossible for, unless you're, 1.00

00:51:55.200 I mean, if you're insane or something, but if you're a healthy, sane man, there's no way you

00:51:59.800 could find that trait appealing in a woman because it's the opposite of what you as a, as a heterosexual 1.00

00:52:04.240 man want. You want a kind, sweet woman who has maternal instincts. We want a woman who will be a 0.99

00:52:09.760 good mother. This is biological. This is natural. We're human beings. And that's what you're looking

00:52:14.620 for. And anything that advertises the opposite of that is disgusting to us. It's just going to be, 0.54

00:52:20.760 it's nauseating. Women are looking for men who will be strong providers and protectors and good 0.54

00:52:24.740 fathers. Anything that advertises the opposite of that is going to be disgusting to them. That's 0.72

00:52:29.540 the reality, no matter what they claim, no matter what they say, that's the reality. It's, it's,

00:52:33.080 you know, just like there are liberal guys who will say, you know, I'm attracted to women who are

00:52:38.420 tough, no nonsense CEO boss babes. No, you aren't. No, you aren't. Are you telling me what I'm

00:52:46.120 attracted to? Yeah, I am. You're not actually attracted to that. Yeah, whatever. You're not.

00:52:50.220 You're lying. You think you're supposed to be attracted to that. That's the difference.

00:52:54.500 You think you're supposed to be, but you aren't really. And it's same goes for women the other way 1.00

00:53:00.460 around. You know, I've used this example before. I'll tell you, I think it's the perfect way to

00:53:07.140 illustrate it. I'll tell you the, the most unattractive and disgusting thing you can do 0.98

00:53:12.440 in your wife's eyes right now. One of them, right? Something that will change her opinion 0.99

00:53:18.920 of you forever, as unfair as it sounds. I mean, forever, seriously. Like it's going to be a hit

00:53:25.520 on her respect for you that you'll probably never recover from. And I'll tell you what that thing is.

00:53:29.020 go home tonight and cry because you had a stressful day at work. Now, I don't mean because you work in

00:53:39.340 emergency services and you saw a child die or something horrible, horrific happened. Okay.

00:53:43.500 I don't mean a tragedy occurred. I mean, you go home and you just had a tough, overwhelming day at

00:53:48.380 the office. That's all. Lots of stuff going on. You know, it's a lot of, a lot of pressure and it's

00:53:52.600 just, it's an overwhelming day and you go home and you cry about it. Now, if men and women are really the

00:53:58.580 same, if gender roles are social constructs as liberals claim, then there should be no problem 0.99

00:54:03.780 with you doing that. Should be no problem. And if the tailors of the world are being honest when

00:54:08.840 they say, yeah, man, we want men to stop being a brick wall, open up, be vulnerable. Well, then you

00:54:14.460 should be able to do that. You should be able to go home tonight and you know, you, you, you start

00:54:19.520 sobbing. And when your wife asks you what wrong, say, I just had a stressful day. It's such a tough day.

00:54:26.280 You should be able to do that.

00:54:28.580 And it should be fine. After all, your wife does that, right? Wives do that. There've been plenty 0.99

00:54:34.240 of times when your wife cried because she was stressed out and overwhelmed. Most husbands,

00:54:39.040 that's a, that's, we we've seen that before. A wife gets teary, gets, starts sobbing, starts crying

00:54:45.100 a little bit. And it, it, there's not even any specific reason. It's just, it's a tough day,

00:54:49.480 stressful, overwhelmed. Like we've seen that perfectly normal. So why shouldn't you be able to do the

00:54:54.760 same? You're opening up, you're being vulnerable. Isn't that good? Well, it isn't. Your wife will

00:55:01.980 be absolutely disgusted. Absolutely disgusted. She probably won't tell you that. She probably 0.75

00:55:07.420 won't say, well, this is disgusting. What is wrong with you? You disgust me. But she won't say that, 0.97

00:55:12.740 but she, she, she's never been less turned on by you than she will be in that moment. Why? Well,

00:55:17.880 because she needs you to be the person who handles stress and conflict and turmoil in a calm and

00:55:23.120 resolute way. That's why she married you. That's why she's attracted to men in the first place. 1.00

00:55:27.620 So seeing you in that state would be like, it'd be like if you were on a plane, right? And you hit

00:55:32.760 turbulence and the pilot came over the intercom and was sobbing because he's stressed out by it.

00:55:41.800 Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sorry. I'm just really stressed.

00:55:43.680 I don't care how sympathetic and compassionate you think you are. You would not be sympathetic

00:55:50.680 and compassionate in that moment because you need the pilot to get his act together. Okay. You can be

00:55:56.340 nervous, but you need him to be unbothered and stoic. That's what you need that guy to be.

00:56:05.180 Is it unfair? Yeah, I guess everyone else can be freaking out in the back, but you got,

00:56:10.920 you cannot be bothered by this. I cannot see you bothered you because you're the pilot of the plane.

00:56:19.160 And that's how it is for men. You're the pilot of the airplane. You're the captain. And everyone

00:56:22.860 in the family is looking over you to you during turbulent times. They're looking to you to know

00:56:27.620 that they're okay, that they're safe. And if you're sobbing like a baby, it's a problem.

00:56:33.760 And that's why when men get married, they get frustrated sometimes because they notice that

00:56:37.300 whenever they get emotional, uh, not even just cry like angry when they get, when they get overly

00:56:44.460 emotional about something, their wives will, will often get, will, will start mirroring those 0.80

00:56:53.720 emotions. So you're angry. Now she's angry. You're stressed. Now she's stressed. And to a man,

00:56:58.080 it may seem like, well, she's making it all about herself,

00:57:00.020 but really she's reacting to the fact that her rock, her stability, which is you has,

00:57:08.080 have suddenly gone shaky. And that's why you need to be the man. You need to be strong and confident

00:57:14.700 and in control. That's, that's what heterosexual women are looking for men. And that's what, 0.95

00:57:23.400 and that is what is attractive about men to women. So, uh, it really is that simple. Now I will say

00:57:30.720 the one, one of the, one of the big problems here is that, yeah, for men, you got, you get,

00:57:41.680 you, you're the pilot, you're the captain of the ship. You're the pilot of the airplane. And so you

00:57:45.440 can't start crying when you hit turbulence. Everyone else can, but you can't.

00:57:49.980 And I think that to men that, that, that kind of idea makes sense.

00:57:57.920 But the issue is that a lot of modern liberal women, every liberal woman will, she, she agrees 1.00

00:58:05.380 like, yeah, you can't start crying when you hit the turbulence, but she won't acknowledge that

00:58:09.740 you're the pilot of the plane. So she wants to also be the pilot and get all the credit and where 1.00

00:58:16.460 the captain's at, but she still needs you when the turbulence hit hits to be the. So in those

00:58:23.800 moments, now she needs you to be the, be the, uh, the captain. And that's also confusing to men,

00:58:31.340 which is all the more reason to just avoid liberal women. And, um, and I think you can avoid a lot of 1.00

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01:00:39.420 Cracker Barrel has always held a special place in my heart. My wife and I live two hours away from

01:00:45.180 each other when we first met. And so for dates, we used to meet in the middle at a Cracker Barrel

01:00:50.160 and, uh, we would, you know, eat country fried steak and play that little triangle board game with

01:00:55.280 colorful, colorful, uh, pegs. Suffice it to say, I was really spoiling her in those early days of

01:01:00.340 our relationship. It was a, it was a first class experience. It did raise some concerns. I worry

01:01:04.800 that she might be marrying me just for my Cracker Barrel rewards points. I'm not saying she was a

01:01:09.820 gold digger, but she knew that I was a man with enough points to buy like three pancakes and a

01:01:13.780 key chain from the gift shop and that kind of wealth that can really entice a woman. Um, all that to say, 0.88

01:01:19.840 we have a history with Cracker Barrel, which is why I read with interest about the controversy

01:01:23.820 surrounding the restaurant chain's new remodel and rebrand. The company started remodeling the

01:01:28.640 interior of the restaurants last year. Um, as you recall, Cracker Barrel used to look like a

01:01:32.880 combination of kind of like your grandma's house and a hunting cabin on the inside. It was warm. It

01:01:38.400 was inviting, had character and personality. And here's what it looks like now. Um, as you can see,

01:01:44.760 the, uh, down home country feel has been entirely expunged from the place. Now it looks and feels

01:01:51.000 sterile and generic. It went from your grandma's house to the house of a suburban white woman who 0.64

01:01:56.460 buys all of her furniture on Wayfair. Looks like the kind of house where the kitchen is decorated

01:02:01.640 with wall decor that says kitchen. Cracker Barrel has gone from down home to home goods. Basically

01:02:07.280 the interior looks like, looks like every home that's ever been remodeled on any HGTV show ever.

01:02:12.820 The Joanna gainsification of American life continues and it gets worse somehow. Yesterday, Cracker Barrel 0.91

01:02:18.780 unveiled their newly revamped logo. We'll put that up on the screen. And the old logos on the left,

01:02:23.720 of course, the one the company has had for about 50 years. It's distinct. It's recognizable. It's

01:02:27.700 iconic. You see the old guy in the barrel. Now the old guy is gone. And even the Cracker Barrel

01:02:32.860 barrel is gone. Once again, everything unique and distinct has been removed. They went out of their

01:02:37.960 way to make the logo as bland and generic as they possibly could. The marketing gurus at Cracker

01:02:44.880 Barrel looked at the old logo and said to themselves, hmm, this is charming, visually

01:02:48.660 pleasing, lots of personality. How can we fix those problems? And after months of deliberations

01:02:54.700 and brainstorming sessions and Zoom calls, they finally came up with the idea to just make the

01:02:59.540 Cracker Barrel logo look like every other logo for every other product or business in the country.

01:03:04.320 As everyone has noticed, most major brands have done the same thing. They're all going for this

01:03:08.720 minimalist look, which simply means removing everything unique and aesthetically interesting

01:03:14.080 from their logos and their buildings and making it all bland, ugly, and uninspired on purpose.

01:03:19.880 Now we should note that according to an article in Adweek, Cracker Barrel enlisted not one, not two,

01:03:25.660 but three marketing agencies to help them come up with their new look. Three agencies collaborated

01:03:32.660 for months to come up with a logo that is in every way less appealing than the old one.

01:03:39.580 The combined efforts of three high-powered marketing firms came up with this. One can only

01:03:46.440 imagine the buzz in the boardroom when they dropped the curtain and unveiled the exciting new concept.

01:03:50.820 After working on this for 450 combined billable hours, we've decided that Cracker Barrel's new logo

01:03:55.760 should be the word Cracker Barrel. And that's it.

01:04:02.660 Thank you. That'll be $30 million. This is, of course, just more evidence that the entire

01:04:10.280 marketing profession is completely fake. It is a $500 billion industry staffed and run by people,

01:04:17.720 mostly women, who have no clue how to market anything. The marketing industry exists primarily

01:04:24.120 as a jobs program for talentless women with useless degrees and lots of college debt. That's what it is. 1.00

01:04:28.900 And speaking of talentless women, the CEO of Cracker Barrel is a woman, of course, 1.00

01:04:33.580 we kind of already knew that, named Julie Messino. And she went on Good Morning America 0.98

01:04:38.260 yesterday to explain why the company decided to make all these changes that are sure to appeal

01:04:43.000 to precisely none of their customers. Watch.

01:04:46.400 The Cracker Barrel needs to feel like the Cracker Barrel for today and for tomorrow. And again,

01:04:50.520 the things that you love are still there. We need people to choose us and we want people to choose

01:04:54.840 because people love this brand. They've loved it. Everybody's got a story, right? Did you go to

01:05:00.160 Cracker Barrel on the way to your grandma's when you were playing, traveling soccer or whatever those

01:05:03.920 things are? Our job is to make Cracker Barrel a place that they want to be today and tomorrow. 0.98

01:05:08.840 The Cracker Barrel of today. That's exactly the kind of meaningless corporate speak that you expect

01:05:13.760 to hear from a female CEO who looks and sounds like someone who would never be caught dead

01:05:17.920 actually buying the product that her company sells. It reminds you of Alyssa Heinerscheid. Remember the

01:05:22.640 former VP of marketing for Bud Light? She's the genius who decided to enlist Dylan Mulvaney

01:05:26.960 because she didn't want the brand to appeal to frat boys anymore. Alyssa never had a sip of Bud

01:05:31.800 Light in her life. Julie has never been inside a Cracker Barrel. Doesn't even know what country

01:05:36.940 fried steak is. She's probably vegan. These are the people who are now in charge of basically every

01:05:42.100 beloved American brand in existence. And that's why they've all been stripped of everything that made

01:05:47.440 them beloved in the first place. But does this really matter? I mean, should we care that Cracker

01:05:53.800 Barrel redesigned its logo and its restaurants to make them all sterile and soulless? Should we care

01:05:59.480 that every American brand is like doing the same thing? Yeah, we should. I mean, it's easy to look at

01:06:06.160 one little piece of the problem and shrug it off as no big deal, but you put it all together, you see a

01:06:10.440 deliberate and far-reaching campaign to drain our culture dry, basically. An effort to make everything

01:06:18.680 ugly and empty. An effort that even extends to Cracker Barrel. And so, yes, that does matter.

01:06:27.200 And it's why Julie Messino and her team of marketing geniuses are all today. Cancel. 1.00

01:06:33.300 That'll do it for sure today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Godspeed.

01:06:38.520 Democrats are getting annihilated in voter registrations. Rabbi Shmuley Boteik is challenging

01:06:49.600 me to a debate. And the libs are ruining Cracker Barrel. Check it out on The Michael Knowles Show. 1.00

The Matt Walsh Show - August 21, 2025

Ep. 1644 - This Case Is An Insane Miscarriage Of Justice

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