The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1661 - We Just Got Proof Of A Huge Attack On Free Speech, And It Has Nothing To Do With Jimmy Kimmel

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Google finally admits that it censored conservatives at the behest of the Biden administration.

00:00:05.280 This is an infinitely greater attack on free speech than Jimmy Kimmel's temporary paid vacation.

00:00:09.900 Also, speaking of which, Kimmel made his triumphant return last night and only proved how irrelevant he really is.

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00:00:26.660 All of that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.

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00:03:34.500 If you're a longtime listener of the show, you might remember that a couple of years ago, YouTube demonetized my channel.

00:03:41.980 They were under pressure from various propaganda outlets affiliated with Democrat Party, and they caved.

00:03:46.980 The financial consequence was very significant.

00:03:49.880 We're talking about six figures in losses every month.

00:03:52.540 If we didn't have paying subscribers at The Daily Wire, if this were a much smaller channel with fewer resources, it would have been catastrophic.

00:04:00.880 It was clear what YouTube wanted in return.

00:04:03.440 They wanted me to pledge to use the so-called preferred pronouns of people who identify as transgender, men like Leah Thomas and Dylan Mulvaney.

00:04:12.160 In other words, they wanted me to affirm a lie that contradicts my faith, my politics, and also just basic common sense and biology.

00:04:20.660 In general, they wanted me to refrain from offering any kind of meaningful critique of gender ideology.

00:04:26.260 In YouTube's eyes, this was the only way to be advertiser-friendly.

00:04:30.620 Of course, I refused to go along with this, so we ended up pulling the podcast from YouTube entirely for actually a whole year.

00:04:38.060 We just ate the financial losses, which were very, very significant.

00:04:42.900 Eventually, several months later, YouTube relented.

00:04:45.120 They agreed to allow the show to make money again without requiring me to affirm the trans lie.

00:04:50.340 So we put the show back on the platform, and I continued to say what I had been saying all along.

00:04:55.740 As far as I know, YouTube never offered any kind of explanation for their change of heart, nor did they offer an apology, certainly.

00:05:02.940 It's possible that Google, which owns YouTube, realized that they had overstepped after we brought attention to their censorship on Twitter,

00:05:09.980 which was now a relatively free and open platform.

00:05:13.700 Once Elon Musk purchased Twitter, it became much easier for conservatives to highlight big tech's attempts to silence conservative discourse on other platforms.

00:05:22.160 Previously, when YouTube banned pretty much every other conservative in the country, Twitter was their ally.

00:05:29.280 In many cases, they banned the same conservatives, you recall, at the same time so that they couldn't complain anywhere.

00:05:36.360 You'll remember that YouTube banned both Alex Jones and Donald Trump around the same time that Twitter did.

00:05:41.960 All the big tech companies at the same time.

00:05:44.280 Twitter also suspended Dan Bongino around the same time that YouTube permanently removed him from the platform

00:05:48.960 for saying that masks don't stop the spread of COVID, which happens to be true.

00:05:54.300 And there are many other names that we could list, from Steve Bannon to Rand Paul to Sebastian Gorka, who suffered a similar fate.

00:06:01.420 And that's not even getting into the many individual videos that were censored, including episodes from Tim Pool's show and interviews with RFK Jr.,

00:06:10.280 as well as thousands of smaller accounts that were impacted by all this.

00:06:15.100 In every single case, YouTube targeted conservatives.

00:06:18.680 This was, of course, a coordinated effort by big tech and the Biden administration to silence their political opposition.

00:06:26.300 And it was very, very effective for a long time.

00:06:29.460 They began with Alex Jones, who they labeled a fringe character, an exception to the rule.

00:06:34.500 And then they proceeded to come for virtually every conservative with a large platform.

00:06:39.560 In some way, shape, or form, they came for everybody.

00:06:43.820 And while Google would occasionally walk back their censorship, as they did with my channel,

00:06:48.240 they stopped short of issuing any kind of mea culpa for what they had done.

00:06:52.160 They certainly did not implicate the Biden administration or blame Democrats for their censorship,

00:06:58.060 as other big tech companies like Meta have already done.

00:07:01.760 Well, yesterday, that changed.

00:07:03.120 After being investigated by Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee for several years, in particular by Jim Jordan,

00:07:09.180 Alphabet, the parent company of Google and YouTube,

00:07:12.840 admitted that they were repeatedly pressured by the Biden administration to remove conservatives from the platform.

00:07:18.880 And now this is being hailed as like a major victory in some circles, but it's not.

00:07:25.920 It's not remotely close to a victory.

00:07:28.160 And nobody should really be celebrating it.

00:07:31.540 But before we get into that, here's the document written by Google's lawyers sent to the House Judiciary Committee the other day.

00:07:38.260 This is the big reveal.

00:07:40.080 Quote,

00:07:40.220 A letter goes on to describe the Biden administration's effort as unacceptable and wrong.

00:08:01.120 Well, that's nice of them to admit now.

00:08:06.060 Why didn't they say so at the time?

00:08:08.620 Why didn't they immediately disclose every single effort by the Biden administration to de-platform a conservative?

00:08:15.580 Something they were doing systematically for years.

00:08:20.160 And why did Google comply with these demands?

00:08:23.300 Well, Google never answers any of these questions.

00:08:25.900 But we all know the answer.

00:08:29.260 This is footage originally obtained by Breitbart from an internal Google meeting shortly after Trump won in 2016.

00:08:37.320 Now, this is not a group of random staffers, by the way.

00:08:39.840 The founder of the company is leading this meeting.

00:08:42.700 Watch.

00:08:43.700 I know this is probably not the most joyous TGIF we have had.

00:08:48.800 Most people here are pretty upset and pretty sad because of the election.

00:08:55.020 I'm glad we're getting together at a moment like this.

00:08:58.560 And I think it's a very stressful time.

00:09:01.040 It's been an extraordinarily stressful time, I'm sure, for many of you.

00:09:05.760 There is a lot of fear within Google.

00:09:07.660 I'm seeing Googlers who are full of fear.

00:09:09.860 There are people who are very afraid.

00:09:12.060 They're full of fear about the future.

00:09:14.020 They're full of fear about what the uncertainty means for them and their families.

00:09:17.720 It's uncertain for many of us here, you know, especially immigrants or minorities, women.

00:09:25.500 Women, blacks, you know, people who are afraid based on religion, the LGBTQ community.

00:09:32.160 I would just advise us all to be calm.

00:09:34.680 You know, there's a G-Calm place that you can go to and just take a breath.

00:09:39.920 Healing is a process.

00:09:41.000 It does take time.

00:09:42.040 As an immigrant and a refugee, I certainly find this election deeply offensive.

00:09:48.260 It did feel like a ton of bricks dropped on my chest.

00:09:51.240 Trump specifically, who I know many of us find very offensive.

00:09:55.020 These are the people who, for the next nine years, would wage a coordinated and wide-ranging

00:09:59.780 campaign of censorship against conservatives.

00:10:02.720 Their goal was to prevent Donald Trump or anybody like him from ever winning another election.

00:10:06.740 It was to prevent conservatives from being able to, you know, take part in the so-called

00:10:14.340 national discourse.

00:10:17.000 One of their first targets was the Federalist, which YouTube threatened to demonetize on the

00:10:21.100 theory that the website posted a comment section with certain content that advertisers

00:10:25.460 didn't approve of.

00:10:27.060 Yes, they held the entire website responsible for a handful of random comments.

00:10:30.200 Of course, this is a standard that could be used against any website that has a comment

00:10:33.620 section.

00:10:34.000 Every single one of them has a small number of deranged comments, or a large number.

00:10:39.600 But Google chose to enforce this rule against conservative websites and conservative websites

00:10:44.820 alone.

00:10:46.120 It wasn't just the Federalists.

00:10:47.180 Google also suppressed Breitbart in search results, making it nearly impossible to find.

00:10:51.920 Breitbart's search visibility declined by roughly 99% in Google results.

00:10:57.680 The Daily Caller also suffered massive declines.

00:11:00.120 Now, Google is now attempting to minimize this scandal by telling Jim Jordan and the House

00:11:04.480 Republicans that they're really sorry about everything that happened.

00:11:08.680 Here's another part of the letter from Google, quote,

00:11:12.160 Reflecting the company's commitment to free expression, YouTube will provide an opportunity

00:11:16.180 for all creators to rejoin the platform if the company terminated their channel for repeated

00:11:20.740 violations of COVID-19 and election integrity policies that are no longer in effect.

00:11:25.300 Of course, this offer of amnesty comes about five years too late.

00:11:30.680 Dan Bongino is working for the FBI right now.

00:11:33.000 Presumably, he's not going to take YouTube up on their offer at this point.

00:11:35.940 RFK is also working in the federal government.

00:11:39.000 And of course, Joe Biden has been defeated.

00:11:41.600 And not to mention all these people who are deplatformed.

00:11:44.580 They've lost, many of them, millions of dollars.

00:11:46.360 Are they going to be given restitution?

00:11:49.400 Are we going to get reparations for all the millions of dollars that were lost?

00:11:57.340 Now, we know the Google censorship campaign ultimately has failed.

00:12:01.660 This is like the equivalent of an NFL team admitting that they cheated in the Super Bowl

00:12:05.840 six months after they lost the game and then promising they wouldn't cheat anymore.

00:12:10.440 Well, that's not good enough.

00:12:12.520 Like, there need to be actual sanctions here.

00:12:14.820 YouTube conspired with the federal government to suppress the First Amendment rights of

00:12:19.320 American citizens.

00:12:21.000 That's what happened.

00:12:22.420 They're admitting it.

00:12:24.000 Now, as a private actor, YouTube can do whatever it wants.

00:12:27.020 But when it works with the federal government, it becomes a co-conspirator in a broader effort

00:12:33.280 to destroy the civil liberties of Americans.

00:12:35.400 And that's a crime, as we've been told again and again and again.

00:12:38.240 They prosecuted Douglas Mackey for making a meme that supposedly made it harder for Americans

00:12:43.160 to vote, which it didn't.

00:12:44.820 That was a lie.

00:12:45.580 I mean, the meme simply was making fun of Hillary Clinton and her voters.

00:12:48.580 But all the same, they set the precedent.

00:12:51.540 It's completely fair game for conservatives to begin criminally prosecuting left-wing organizations

00:12:55.800 that actually did set out to undermine the constitutional rights of millions of Americans.

00:13:02.580 We should not accept any letter as a substitute for justice.

00:13:06.720 But there is one more part of the letter from Google's legal team that's worth talking about.

00:13:12.000 We'll put that up on the screen.

00:13:13.840 I'm not going to read this part, but as you can see, Google is basically saying that their

00:13:17.380 policies have changed and everything from COVID to election fraud and glitches and voting

00:13:22.400 machines.

00:13:23.860 You see, it used to be that under no circumstances could you discuss any of these topics from a

00:13:28.440 conservative perspective.

00:13:30.780 But now you can say whatever you want about COVID or election fraud.

00:13:33.900 In the span of just a few years, Google has done a complete 180 on the policies that it

00:13:39.120 used to ban a huge number of influential conservatives from the platform.

00:13:43.380 They were ruthless in applying these policies, even though, as they now admit, there was never

00:13:48.840 any legitimate reason to apply them at all.

00:13:52.540 Now, there's no way around this.

00:13:53.960 This is the most widespread and devastating campaign against free speech in modern times.

00:13:59.780 Actually, in the history of this country.

00:14:01.280 It's like it's not even close.

00:14:05.840 It was criminal.

00:14:06.940 It was unconstitutional.

00:14:09.140 And as it was going on, we didn't hear a word from any of the pundits on cable news who

00:14:13.640 are now bloviating about the plight of Jimmy Kimmel.

00:14:17.400 All the people who are calling Jimmy Kimmel a free speech martyr or saying that him being

00:14:22.500 suspended for a couple of days is the greatest attack on free speech in American history were

00:14:25.880 completely silent as Google was systematically censoring conservatives at the behest of the

00:14:31.580 government.

00:14:33.740 In fact, they were cheering Google.

00:14:36.040 I mean, they weren't just being silent.

00:14:37.020 They were cheering it.

00:14:39.100 And now they're supposedly horrified by the fact that the FCC commissioner on a podcast

00:14:43.000 suggested that an aging, irrelevant late night host might have broken the broadcast rules

00:14:48.060 by lying about the murder of Charlie Kirk.

00:14:49.820 Like, that's their red line.

00:14:52.800 Here's Jake Tapper, for example.

00:14:55.220 All right, Jimmy Kimmel.

00:14:56.100 He's a friend of both of ours.

00:14:57.560 You know him.

00:14:58.160 I know him.

00:14:58.700 We know he's a good person.

00:14:59.920 Obviously, this news is very exciting.

00:15:01.960 But what was your original take on how this all went down starting last week?

00:15:06.400 I mean, I thought it was pretty much the most direct infringement by the government on free

00:15:11.220 speech that I've seen in my lifetime.

00:15:12.680 Networks are allowed to cancel shows.

00:15:22.400 It happens all the time.

00:15:23.480 But this was the FCC chairman saying, local affiliates, it's time for you to say you're

00:15:29.440 not going to air Kimmel anymore.

00:15:31.160 And then Nextstar, which is the largest owner of local affiliates, needs approval from Brendan

00:15:37.500 Carr himself to let this merger go through.

00:15:39.720 So, yes, sir.

00:15:41.760 How high do you want me to jump, sir?

00:15:43.160 They do it.

00:15:43.880 And it's just insane.

00:15:45.820 And that would have been the second example, because we all saw what happened with our friend

00:15:48.780 Stephen Colbert and Sherry Redstone in Paramount with a different merger and a different pressure

00:15:53.380 point that the government has.

00:15:54.880 And we'll see what happens when they come for Comcast.

00:15:57.200 And they'll see what happens when they come for Warner Brothers Discovery.

00:15:59.560 And maybe you and I will be drawing comments.

00:16:01.460 I'm worried about you.

00:16:02.640 It was pretty much the most direct infringement by the government on free speech that I've seen

00:16:06.220 in my lifetime.

00:16:08.340 Really?

00:16:09.320 Jake?

00:16:09.720 Jake Tapper?

00:16:11.000 I mean, forget about the government working with big tech to silence thousands of conservatives,

00:16:15.560 including the president of the United States.

00:16:19.300 Forget about, you know, the pro-lifers who were jailed for praying or the January 6th protesters

00:16:23.380 who were hunted down and thrown in solitary for walking around the Capitol building.

00:16:27.020 According to Jake Tapper, none of those crackdowns can possibly compare to Jimmy Kimmel's paid

00:16:31.680 suspension for a couple of days.

00:16:34.400 And then he goes on to make excuses for Stephen Colbert, Seth Meyers, and his own show when they're

00:16:39.120 all inevitably canceled.

00:16:40.700 It can't possibly have anything to do with the fact that no one watches them.

00:16:44.960 You know, it has to be the Trump administration's fault.

00:16:47.880 Even if you disagree with what the FCC commissioner said, even if you think that his comments were

00:16:52.640 an unforced error, this is a totally indefensible position for an allegedly serious news anchor to

00:16:59.520 maintain, at most, at most, Brendan Carr would be guilty of getting too loose with his language.

00:17:05.900 If you think, I mean, if you're, if you're inclined to be critical, that's the most you could say.

00:17:12.120 There's no evidence he actually exerted any pressure on ABC.

00:17:15.160 He didn't launch any kind of investigation.

00:17:17.080 Although, as we discussed last week, he would have been within his rights to launch an investigation

00:17:21.820 according to FCC policies.

00:17:25.500 On the other hand, there's plenty of evidence that Kimmel's affiliates are just tired of his act.

00:17:31.600 They don't think it's good for business when he lies about Charlie Kirk's murder, so they cut him

00:17:35.220 loose for a couple of days to save face.

00:17:38.000 And now he's back on the air, refusing to apologize, playing the victim, and so on.

00:17:43.680 There is no universe in which the situation is comparable to the censorship of thousands of

00:17:48.560 conservatives up to and including the president.

00:17:51.820 And by the way, we see how significant that censorship is because

00:17:54.960 as we talk about how there's been a sudden turnaround, well, now we're now

00:17:59.780 the right, you know, we're winning on all these issues out of nowhere, it seems.

00:18:06.300 And people are wondering how that happened.

00:18:08.220 Well, this is, this is how it happened.

00:18:10.400 It's not a big mystery.

00:18:12.340 It's because we were being prevented from participating in the conversation for many years.

00:18:18.100 That there are these big megaphones that the left was allowed to use and we were not allowed

00:18:23.620 to use.

00:18:26.340 That, and, and, and now we have access to the megaphones also.

00:18:31.300 Now we are also allowed to make our points.

00:18:33.820 And as soon as we were able to do that, look how quickly things changed.

00:18:41.860 And there's another way you can tell that none of these people really mean what they

00:18:45.360 say.

00:18:45.880 On the left, there's no outrage whatsoever about the fact that the new Apple show called

00:18:49.960 The Savant is now being pulled in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder.

00:18:53.680 Leftists aren't complaining about censorship or self-censorship in this case.

00:18:56.700 They're not clamoring to see a single episode.

00:19:00.600 They're not warning about the chilling effect of the Trump administration's rhetoric in

00:19:04.040 the wake of Charlie's assassination or anything like that.

00:19:06.540 That's because the show very clearly was yet another propaganda effort by big tech to portray

00:19:10.740 angry white conservatives as a serious domestic terror threat.

00:19:14.780 It was a bog standard attempt to villainize men like Charlie Kirk.

00:19:18.760 And now that Charlie's dead, there's no point, no point in airing the show because it would

00:19:24.100 backfire.

00:19:24.540 Here's part of the trailer just to give you an idea.

00:19:27.780 Watch.

00:19:32.400 It's going to be a coordinated mass attack.

00:19:35.660 Blood will be shed.

00:19:36.660 Locked and loaded.

00:19:37.660 Been planted for months.

00:19:38.860 The hunt has begun.

00:19:54.540 What do you do in there all day?

00:20:01.560 All night sometimes.

00:20:05.280 I track people who are planning the tax.

00:20:08.280 My job is pretending to think like them.

00:20:11.420 To stop those people from doing really bad things.

00:20:14.220 FBI, arm your knees!

00:20:15.940 That's why we call her the savant.

00:20:20.760 Snipers.

00:20:22.440 Bombings.

00:20:24.720 Ambushes.

00:20:25.500 We're on the verge of serious violence.

00:20:27.740 I've been watching him for a year and a half.

00:20:29.660 He's recruiting for something.

00:20:31.680 I don't know what it is, but it's massive.

00:20:35.380 So the girl boss suburban female investigator is not hunting down trans terrorists.

00:20:41.620 She's not going after Antifa.

00:20:43.600 She's not targeting any of the people who actually commit acts of domestic terrorism in this country.

00:20:48.100 Instead, she's going after white conservatives.

00:20:50.140 And since Apple pulled the show, it's reasonable to conclude there was a Charlie Kirk-type figure in the plot.

00:20:57.760 It's yet more agitprop to bolster the same exact narrative that got Charlie killed.

00:21:03.520 Which is the narrative that conservative white men are Nazis.

00:21:07.960 And, you know, you know it.

00:21:09.420 The left knows it.

00:21:10.160 That's why they pulled the show.

00:21:12.920 Makes them look even worse than they already do.

00:21:15.740 It would be a massive tactical blunder for Apple to go ahead with the show.

00:21:19.380 Especially right now.

00:21:20.340 The reason leftists like Jake Tapper aren't upset with Apple right now is that fundamentally,

00:21:25.460 they don't actually oppose censorship or self-censorship on any principled basis at all.

00:21:31.340 They don't value free expression, whether it's on a college campus or in the entertainment industry or YouTube or anywhere else.

00:21:38.460 They only support freedom of speech when it benefits them politically.

00:21:41.580 When they can use it as a rallying cry to demonize their opponents.

00:21:45.600 That's the only time they care about freedom of speech.

00:21:47.780 Which is to say, they don't actually care about it at all.

00:21:50.820 That goes for Google.

00:21:51.800 It goes for Jimmy Kimmel.

00:21:53.200 It goes for Jake Tapper.

00:21:54.460 It goes for all of them.

00:21:56.240 And that's why, unless prosecutions and lawsuits are coming,

00:21:59.500 no conservative should talk about this new policy change from Google and celebrate it like it's some big victory.

00:22:06.480 It's meaningless.

00:22:07.000 It's an effort to buy time until they can censor more conservatives if and when the left regains control of the federal government.

00:22:15.420 Any Republican who says otherwise or who champions this new policy as some kind of victory is hopelessly naive at best.

00:22:21.820 Put simply, the people who cried when Trump became president cannot be trusted to hold any power over the vital Internet and communications infrastructure in this country.

00:22:32.480 One letter does not change that.

00:22:35.080 Reinstating a few accounts does not change that.

00:22:37.120 The only deterrent these people understand is actual consequences, particularly in the form of prosecutions and lawsuits.

00:22:45.460 The other day, Donald Trump posted a public note to Pam Bondi urging her to accomplish something while in office.

00:22:53.460 Well, this would be a good place to start.

00:22:55.200 Take these executives to court.

00:22:57.820 Deal a fatal blow to the censorship regime.

00:23:00.260 Put something in place, put consequences in place so that they can't just ramp it up again in a couple of years.

00:23:08.940 You have their admission in writing.

00:23:11.620 Now, before any more conservative voices disappear from the public stage in the next few years,

00:23:18.080 it's time to use the power that you have.

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00:24:44.960 Well, just as we started recording, news was breaking about this shooting by a sniper

00:24:50.540 at an ICE facility in Dallas.

00:24:52.600 At least one person is dead.

00:24:54.420 The shooter is also dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

00:24:57.840 And the preliminary information from the FBI tells us that the rounds had anti-ICE messages

00:25:03.020 written on them.

00:25:03.980 So this was, of course, another case of left-wing terrorism.

00:25:07.840 And, you know, the thing is, I actually deleted my initial post about this shooting on X

00:25:17.540 because as soon as I heard about it, I posted that left-wing violence is a national emergency

00:25:22.380 and the federal government has to ruthlessly crack down and crush the terrorist threat.

00:25:28.380 And that's what I posted.

00:25:29.260 I deleted it because I was just assuming, you know, it was like 30 seconds after I read about it,

00:25:34.740 I was just assuming that it was left-wing violence.

00:25:38.260 At the time, I had no information.

00:25:39.780 I had no direct evidence that that was the case.

00:25:41.540 I just assumed it.

00:25:44.200 And so then on second thought, I thought, well, that was irresponsible.

00:25:48.860 You know, so I deleted it.

00:25:52.380 But then, of course, it turns out that my immediate assumption was correct,

00:25:55.160 which, you know, we all knew would be correct.

00:25:57.240 I mean, it's, you know, I knew even when I'm deleting, I'm like, well, there's a 99.9% chance

00:26:02.660 that this is true, but I just want to be cautious.

00:26:08.560 Well, we're at the point now where you don't even need to bother being cautious.

00:26:13.360 I mean, honestly, like the left has a near monopoly on political violence.

00:26:17.980 The pattern now is so clear and so well established that you might as well assume

00:26:24.560 that any act of political violence is left-wing until evidence proves otherwise.

00:26:31.360 It's a very safe assumption.

00:26:33.220 It's, you know, it's like, it's like if there's a school shooting,

00:26:39.320 it's safe to refer to the shooter as a he, you know, as him,

00:26:44.060 even before you know anything, even before you know a single thing.

00:26:48.040 It's, you know, if you're just kind of reflexively saying he in reference to the shooter,

00:26:54.840 pretty, really safe assumption.

00:26:57.660 On very rare occasion will that assumption be proven wrong.

00:27:02.400 But it's an assumption backed up by statistical data that leans extremely heavily to one side.

00:27:08.460 And the same thing here.

00:27:14.000 Same thing here.

00:27:14.660 So I'll have more to say about this case tomorrow.

00:27:16.660 We'll do, you know, we'll talk about it in the opening monologue.

00:27:20.940 But for now, just to kind of reiterate the initial point that I made,

00:27:29.260 you know, we're, left-wing violence is a national emergency.

00:27:34.500 It really is.

00:27:35.440 We can't even go a week anymore without multiple, multiple left-wing terror attacks.

00:27:43.760 So the entire force of the federal government must be brought down, as I was saying,

00:27:49.760 ruthlessly to subdue and crush this terrorist threat.

00:27:54.120 I mean, the Biden administration, or the Trump administration, rather,

00:27:57.720 is saying that Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization.

00:28:02.360 I totally agree.

00:28:03.960 They clearly are.

00:28:05.440 But are we treating them that way or not?

00:28:10.560 Because if they're a domestic terrorist organization, which they are,

00:28:14.420 then every left-wing militant who is affiliated with Antifa or any of its splinter groups

00:28:24.120 should be rounded up and arrested immediately.

00:28:28.340 Like, today, they should be out with vans and buses rounding up anyone affiliated with Antifa

00:28:39.960 or any of its associated groups and arresting them.

00:28:44.760 Because that's exactly what we would do with an American that was affiliated with ISIS or Al-Qaeda.

00:28:53.580 Just being affiliated with them in the first place is a crime.

00:28:57.380 We don't have to wait for you to actually commit a terrorist attack.

00:28:59.500 We don't have to wait for you to kill somebody.

00:29:00.760 If you're an American and you have any kind of affiliation with ISIS, you're getting arrested.

00:29:10.300 And we're probably not going to see you again.

00:29:12.160 Because that should be the consequence of designating something a terrorist group.

00:29:21.020 If we really mean that, which hopefully we do.

00:29:28.620 But, so this should not just be like a symbolic thing.

00:29:32.500 This shouldn't be just we're symbolically considering Antifa domestic terrorists.

00:29:36.160 No, they are a terrorist group.

00:29:37.880 That is what they are.

00:29:39.300 And they have been that since their inception.

00:29:41.360 Countless acts of politically motivated violence.

00:29:45.380 That's all they do.

00:29:46.500 That is all they do.

00:29:48.140 If Antifa rallies or gets together or to do anything, it is always violent.

00:29:55.020 And now we have, what is it, four left-wing terror attacks in the past two weeks.

00:30:04.720 You had, of course, the killing of Charlie Kirk.

00:30:07.120 You had the shooting at a country club by somebody shouting, Free Palestine.

00:30:13.080 You had the shooting at an ABC-affiliated station by somebody who was upset about the Jimmy Kimmel thing.

00:30:18.780 A leftist.

00:30:21.080 And now you have this.

00:30:23.700 And I'm just talking about two weeks.

00:30:25.000 I mean, we could go back.

00:30:26.060 This is a trend that has been going on for far longer than two weeks, obviously.

00:30:31.160 And attacks on ICE facilities in particular, ICE agents, that has been its own epidemic.

00:30:37.120 But I just want you to imagine something for a moment, okay?

00:30:41.160 Just imagine that we have a Democrat administration.

00:30:49.500 And imagine that a right-wing radical shot and killed one of the most famous and influential liberals in the country on live television.

00:31:04.120 And then imagine that in the same week, another right-wing radical shot up a, you know, left-wing, a liberal, you know, meeting of some kind, some kind of organization, shouting some right-wing slogan, shouting MAGA.

00:31:22.800 And in the same week, a different right-wing radical shot up a news station claiming that they had a liberal bias and they were outraged by it.

00:31:38.420 And then, a week later, a different right-wing radical shoots up a Planned Parenthood.

00:31:47.240 You know, a militant conservative on a, with a sniper rifle on a rooftop, shooting at a Planned Parenthood.

00:31:58.920 Imagine that all those things happen by conservatives in the span of two weeks under a Democrat administration.

00:32:06.680 Do you, is there any doubt?

00:32:08.140 Is there any doubt what the response would be?

00:32:12.400 I mean, they'd be breaking down my door, right?

00:32:15.500 They'd be breaking down my door right now.

00:32:17.240 I mean, I'd be getting hauled to, you know, the FBI would be hauling me away.

00:32:24.000 Every, every influential conservative in the country would be under investigation for inciting, for being involved in inciting this violence.

00:32:33.900 They'd be arresting everybody.

00:32:36.160 Okay?

00:32:36.680 Everybody.

00:32:37.160 There would be calls to, to just shut down Fox News completely.

00:32:42.760 Just shut it, shut it down, board up the, the doors, close it down permanently.

00:32:48.500 There would be mass arrests.

00:32:52.240 Okay?

00:32:52.680 Like, if you're, you wouldn't even, as a pro-lifer, you would not be able to, the, the March for Life in January would be, would be, they'd show up with buses and arrest everybody.

00:33:01.760 That's how they'd respond.

00:33:02.820 To just this violence in the last two weeks.

00:33:07.400 I'm not even, I mean, we could go back and we could talk about, we're not even talking about the trans terrorists who shot up the church in, in, in Minnesota.

00:33:14.600 I mean, we could go back.

00:33:15.620 We're not talking about the other attacks on ICE agents, the other attacks on law enforcement.

00:33:19.460 We're not even talking about, we're not even talking about the other example of Antifa militants just yesterday.

00:33:26.700 We're outside of a, a federal building.

00:33:29.540 I think it was in Washington state.

00:33:30.960 Uh, laying siege to a federal building.

00:33:34.740 So like, we're just taking, I'm just taking these four, just pretend it's just these four and flip those around and imagine all that happening in the span of two weeks under a Democrat administration.

00:33:47.700 They would just be arresting everybody.

00:33:49.580 It would be a, it would be a full scale war on, on the right.

00:33:55.680 And it would be merciless.

00:33:58.180 And we all know that.

00:34:00.960 And I'm not even calling for the exact sort of response that the left would have in this situation because they have no respect for the rule of law and they're tyrants.

00:34:13.260 And so they would respond by just crushing and suppressing everyone's speech.

00:34:18.260 They would just make it illegal to be a conservative and, and give your opinion publicly.

00:34:23.160 That's what they would do.

00:34:24.300 That's what they would do.

00:34:26.040 Just those four attacks alone would be enough.

00:34:28.700 And this would be a national emergency.

00:34:30.900 This is, this is what, you know, this is like martial law and anything goes.

00:34:36.480 That's what they would do.

00:34:37.400 I'm not even saying we should do that because I actually respect the rule of law.

00:34:43.140 I mean, we're conservatives rule of law is important.

00:34:45.620 I don't want to suspend it, but this is a national emergency and it should be treated as such.

00:34:52.200 Donald Trump should declare it.

00:34:53.720 A national emergency should declare a national emergency due to left-wing violence because that's what it is.

00:34:58.680 And while respecting the law and respecting the constitution, uh, they should be doing everything in their power.

00:35:07.240 And there's a lot they could do in their power legitimately to crack down on these radicals and to treat them as the domestic terrorists that they are.

00:35:22.180 Um, but we'll, uh, we'll talk more about that tomorrow.

00:35:24.760 Okay.

00:35:25.220 Jimmy Kimmel made his, uh, as we mentioned, it made his long awaited return to the air last night.

00:35:31.140 Um, long awaited for 72 hours, three entire days, 72 hours.

00:35:36.700 Jimmy Kimmel returned from exile.

00:35:38.260 It was, it was a harrowing 72 hours, right?

00:35:42.120 When he was, they should make a movie about it.

00:35:45.160 Oscar bait, an Oscar bait movie about his, uh, seven.

00:35:48.120 It'd be like the, what's that movie about the guy that has arms stuck in a rock 127 hours, James Franco.

00:35:54.760 Um, so they'll, and I think you want an Oscar for that.

00:35:57.940 So, you know, we, there should be a movie called 72 hours, very similar about Jimmy Kimmel's harrowing ordeal, except that instead of being stuck, having his arms stuck in a rock, it's, you know, he's just sitting on his couch and his Beverly Hills mansion, watching people compliment him on TV for three days.

00:36:16.100 Uh, yeah, but I can't imagine, I can't imagine what Jimmy's been through.

00:36:20.060 Who could endure, who could endure this, this suffering?

00:36:24.920 Pray, pray that you do not have to go undergo the test as Jimmy Kimmel has.

00:36:30.120 So he came back.

00:36:31.320 Uh, honestly, I didn't watch the monologue.

00:36:33.360 Uh, I almost did.

00:36:34.580 I actually went to YouTube to find it because I figured I would talk about it on the show.

00:36:39.260 So, and, um, so I was looking at it and then I stopped myself and I said, what the hell, what the hell am I doing?

00:36:45.220 What, what have I become?

00:36:46.960 What have I become?

00:36:47.800 I'm looking up a Jimmy Kimmel monologue.

00:36:49.700 I'm going to watch the whole thing.

00:36:52.660 I've never watched an entire Jimmy Kimmel monologue in my life.

00:36:56.840 So, uh, I, I almost did.

00:36:59.940 And then I realized that, oh, I actually don't care about this at all.

00:37:02.120 I don't care in the slightest.

00:37:03.620 So I didn't, I didn't watch the whole thing.

00:37:05.340 I did see this only this brief clip of his, like, I guess this is supposed to pass for his apology.

00:37:12.440 And, uh, here's what that sounded like.

00:37:14.840 I don't think what I have to say is going to make much of a difference.

00:37:17.740 If you like me, like me.

00:37:18.640 If you don't, you don't.

00:37:19.540 I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind.

00:37:21.820 But I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human.

00:37:25.660 And that is, uh, you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.

00:37:32.760 I don't, I don't think there's anything funny about it.

00:37:39.860 I, I posted a message on Instagram on the day he was killed, sending love to his family and asking for compassion.

00:37:45.800 And I meant it.

00:37:46.620 And I still do.

00:37:47.480 Uh, nor was it my intention to blame any specific group for the actions of what, it was obviously a deeply disturbed individual.

00:37:55.780 That was really the opposite of the point I was trying to make.

00:37:59.060 But I understand that to some that felt either ill-timed or unclear or maybe both.

00:38:03.580 And for those who think I did, uh, point a finger, I get why you're upset.

00:38:07.840 If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way.

00:38:11.760 I have many friends and family members on the other side who I love and remain close to, even though we don't agree on politics at all.

00:38:20.640 I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone.

00:38:24.640 This was a sick person who believed violence was a solution.

00:38:28.420 And it isn't.

00:38:29.920 It, ever.

00:38:31.400 So we're supposed to feel sorry for Jimmy now, now that he's getting all choked up.

00:38:36.660 And notice, he didn't get choked up after Charlie died.

00:38:41.020 He didn't get emotional about that.

00:38:44.700 That'd be understandable.

00:38:45.820 If he, if he was getting emotional about Charlie's murder, uh, I wouldn't judge him at all for that.

00:38:52.080 In fact, I'd have some level of respect for him.

00:38:56.900 It's like showing real empathy for, for someone, for someone on the other side of the political aisle.

00:39:03.380 But that's not what's happening here.

00:39:04.780 He's crying, not for Charlie, but for himself.

00:39:08.220 He's getting emotional out of self-pity.

00:39:11.160 He pities himself because so many people misinterpreted him, he claims.

00:39:16.180 But we didn't misinterpret him.

00:39:17.400 I mean, he absolutely implied that Charlie's killer was a MAGA Republican.

00:39:23.200 And now that that theory is totally unsustainable, he's pivoting to saying that, well, the ideology doesn't matter.

00:39:28.600 This is just a sick person.

00:39:29.940 He's a sick person.

00:39:31.240 And, uh, you know, it doesn't matter.

00:39:32.720 He doesn't represent anybody.

00:39:35.540 So there's no accountability here.

00:39:37.060 There's no apology.

00:39:37.880 There's no admission of wrongdoing.

00:39:40.340 And again, remember, Kimmel implied that the shooter was a conservative long after had been irrefutably proven that he's a leftist militant.

00:39:48.140 I mean, it would be one thing if he just assumed it before we had any facts, which also would have been bad and would not have been unlike my assumption about the ice shooter.

00:39:59.060 You know, assuming that this was a conservative who shot Charlie Kirk doesn't make it.

00:40:03.020 It doesn't make any logical sense.

00:40:04.540 Um, but that's not what happened.

00:40:08.600 This was after we knew that this was a leftist.

00:40:12.260 He went out and made this statement and it was just a flat out lie.

00:40:16.000 And he still refuses to be accountable for it.

00:40:17.940 In fact, he's the opposite of accountable.

00:40:20.940 Uh, he has been rewarded.

00:40:22.220 And his show last night, unsurprisingly, it was the most widely watched show that he's done in a long time.

00:40:28.420 CNN was very happy about that.

00:40:30.660 Uh, watch.

00:40:31.960 CNN's Harry Enten is here to run the numbers for us.

00:40:34.440 Like at this point, I don't think we have the, the, the, the ratings for TV numbers, but you've been looking online and huge, absolutely huge.

00:40:43.560 What are we talking about here?

00:40:44.980 Well, let's take a look at YouTube views.

00:40:47.320 Jimmy Kimmel live video views, the six month median, the median video only gets 240,000.

00:40:53.000 Look how many views Tuesday night's monologue already has 6.7 million.

00:40:59.440 That's over 25 times as large as the median Jimmy Kimmel video normally gets.

00:41:04.820 And I was looking, it is by far the largest video in at least six months.

00:41:09.720 But take a look here.

00:41:11.280 Record high Google searches last night for what time is Jimmy Kimmel on?

00:41:15.940 You wouldn't have to check what time Jimmy Kimmel was on.

00:41:18.860 If you were a regular viewer, the reason that people were checking up whether at what time Jimmy Kimmel was on, because he was pulling, potentially pulling in a lot of viewers who normally didn't watch and get this.

00:41:28.500 It was up over 10,000%.

00:41:31.780 My goodness gracious.

00:41:34.260 Okay.

00:41:34.800 First of all, again, I must restate.

00:41:38.320 We don't need the guy with the big touchscreen randomly underlining things.

00:41:43.600 Why do we need him to underline and circle the words on the screen?

00:41:50.740 Like it says 10,000% in huge, bold letters.

00:41:55.200 We can see it on the screen.

00:41:57.260 You don't need to underline it.

00:41:58.520 It's like, they're the, it's the only, the only word on this.

00:42:01.620 Like, that's it.

00:42:02.200 That's all.

00:42:02.800 It's just, it's right there.

00:42:04.500 You don't need to stand next to it and underline it.

00:42:06.560 We, we could read it, you know, we could, well, CNN's audience for the most part can't read, but, but even for them, underlining it isn't helpful.

00:42:14.560 So, um, I just don't understand the point of the touchscreen.

00:42:17.680 They love using these touchscreens now on cable news.

00:42:20.440 They just, they, they find any excuse they can to use them.

00:42:23.340 And they've all got the touchscreen guy that stands by the screen and circle stuff.

00:42:27.940 You'll see this here.

00:42:29.120 Well, look at the, I don't, it's like they, it's, it'd be one thing if this was some impressive piece of technology and they were just, they were just finding any excuse to use it.

00:42:37.300 It'd be one thing if this was a hologram or something, if this was a, if this was a Star Wars-esque hologram technology and they were just finding any reason to use it, then I would get that.

00:42:50.020 I would, I would accept that.

00:42:51.700 Um, but it's a touchscreen.

00:42:53.720 We've had, you know, we had, since I was a kid, we've had touchscreens.

00:42:58.320 Every time I see this, it really reminds me of when I was in high school.

00:43:01.200 Uh, I had a teacher who, uh, hit, there was a dry erase board, a big dry, uh, instead of a chalkboard, the dry erase board.

00:43:09.960 And he, and he liked to use it, but he didn't know how to use it.

00:43:13.900 He's the only teacher I ever saw that had this problem where he didn't know like what, when he was talking about something, he, he was never sure what to write on the board to help illustrate the point and to give us a visual learning experience.

00:43:25.820 So he would just at random points, just write a word or phrase or underline something.

00:43:32.220 And then, so by the end of the lesson, you, if you look at what's on the board, it was just like the schizophrenic looking thing of random, or you couldn't make it, you couldn't draw a connection.

00:43:41.160 Uh, and I remember one time he was talking about, uh, perspiration and he started to write perspiration on the board, but then you could tell he realized he didn't know how to spell it.

00:43:51.100 So he just stopped at pers, P-E-R-S, and then continued talking.

00:43:56.500 At another point, he came back around and he said perspiration again.

00:43:59.260 So he circled it.

00:44:00.560 And so at the end of the lesson, the only thing on the board was pers circled.

00:44:05.320 That was it.

00:44:06.240 Just not a helpful visual aid is all I'm saying.

00:44:09.900 And I always think of that when I see this CNN's touchscreen guy, um, more to the point,

00:44:14.780 they're trying to impress us with his, his, uh, you know, big numbers.

00:44:17.800 But all they've proven is that, which what we already knew, which is that Kimmel is irrelevant.

00:44:26.280 Like they tell us that he's averaging 240,000 views per video on YouTube.

00:44:31.940 Now that's respectable.

00:44:33.960 If you're like a podcaster, that's probably about what I'm averaging over the past month.

00:44:39.040 I don't know.

00:44:39.300 I haven't looked, but you know, it's probably something like that over the last month.

00:44:42.660 Um, and, but I'm just one guy sitting in a room, like talking to the camera.

00:44:47.220 Uh, I'm not employed by a major network.

00:44:49.660 I'm not promoted by the mainstream media.

00:44:51.560 I don't have celebrities coming on my show.

00:44:53.940 You know, I don't have an army of writers helping generate content.

00:44:58.540 I don't get paid $15 million a year.

00:45:00.800 Like, like Kimmel does.

00:45:03.040 And also this is not even a primarily video, uh, format.

00:45:07.440 I mean, it was, it's a, it's an audio podcast with a video element.

00:45:10.000 So most of the audience listens on Apple or Spotify.

00:45:12.220 We also have an audience on the DW platform.

00:45:14.480 So it just goes to show why late night TV is dying.

00:45:17.860 It's just, it's like, it's not sustainable.

00:45:20.720 Online, you're getting the kind of audience that a political podcast can generate with a

00:45:27.180 tiny fraction of the production budget and none of the marketing, none of the promotion,

00:45:34.060 none of that.

00:45:35.220 And you're getting, you know, the same kind of audience, which is really, and a staff,

00:45:41.800 I looked this up.

00:45:42.840 Kimmel has a staff of 200 people.

00:45:45.820 Working on just his show.

00:45:50.260 I can tell you nothing.

00:45:51.140 I don't have 200, 200 people working.

00:45:53.140 I can't even imagine that working with a staff of 200 people that are dedicated just to your

00:45:59.700 show.

00:46:01.340 200 people, $15 million a year salary, endless promotion from the mainstream media.

00:46:12.500 You work for ABC.

00:46:15.820 Okay.

00:46:16.700 You're owned by Disney and like a multi, multi, multi-billion dollar conglomerate.

00:46:24.680 And what's your online audience?

00:46:26.900 240,000 for all of that.

00:46:29.800 So all that combined effort and all that money, uh, and, and, and that's what you get.

00:46:35.340 You get, again, what someone like, you know, a couple of producers sit in front of a camera,

00:46:41.480 talk about the news.

00:46:42.820 It's the same kind of audience.

00:46:44.260 So it's just not, this is why late night is dying.

00:46:47.300 There's just this, and this really shows.

00:46:49.320 And then this was his most, what did they say?

00:46:51.540 It was a 7 million.

00:46:53.500 Um, which yeah, that's a lot like 7 millions.

00:46:56.460 It's that's, that's a lot, but they want us to be impressed by that.

00:47:02.020 Uh, only a few days after Charlie's memorial, what was the audience for that?

00:47:06.980 It was a hundred million, a hundred million, not even counting the like hundreds of thousands

00:47:14.300 of people who physically showed up.

00:47:16.180 And then a hundred million more watching on, on, uh, online on various platforms.

00:47:20.560 And then, uh, you know, they look at 7 million and they want us to be totally blown away by it.

00:47:28.580 Uh, one other quick thing to mention Politico, uh, defense secretary, Pete Hegseth has shuttered

00:47:35.560 a nearly century old committee created to expand the role of women in the military, part of a broader

00:47:39.780 effort to redefine the image of the armed forces, the closure of the defense advisory committee

00:47:43.920 on women in the services is Hegseth's latest effort to rid the Pentagon of efforts that don't

00:47:48.840 fit into his warrior ethos vision for the department and service academies.

00:47:52.880 Um, he's also shut down a program that boosts the number of women in peace building and conflict

00:47:59.160 prevention efforts, calling it woke and divisive.

00:48:03.500 Uh, so it won't surprise you to hear that I'm very much in favor of this.

00:48:09.380 This should be uncontroversial.

00:48:10.900 I mean, if we lived in a, in a time where common sense and a rationality reign supreme,

00:48:15.660 it would be uncontroversial.

00:48:18.240 We don't quite, I think common sense is very much making a comeback, but I don't think we quite

00:48:22.880 live in that world yet.

00:48:24.260 So maybe it is still a little controversial.

00:48:26.180 Even if you think that this is the point that even if you think that women should be allowed

00:48:32.220 in the military, even if you think they should be permitted, you should still agree that obviously

00:48:39.260 we shouldn't be out there making any special effort to actively recruit them or to expand

00:48:45.820 their role.

00:48:47.220 I mean, it's one thing to allow them to have a role and I don't, and I say, this is someone

00:48:50.940 I don't think they should have any role, uh, certainly, certainly not in combat, but that's

00:48:57.120 one argument, right?

00:48:58.000 I think it's a bad argument, but it's one thing to say, well, they should, we should let

00:49:02.080 them have a role.

00:49:03.000 Um, and that's always kind of like when we, when we argue about this topic, that's always

00:49:09.380 the position we're arguing against.

00:49:12.660 If you're against, if you don't think that women should have combat roles, uh, you're kind

00:49:17.660 of, you're, you're arguing against the position that says they shouldn't be allowed, but that's

00:49:21.960 not really right.

00:49:24.360 That is, that's the left kind of bat as they often do for the sake of the argument, they're

00:49:29.240 backing down to a, to a slightly more defensible position, but that's not really their position

00:49:34.980 because what their position really is, is not just that women should be allowed, but that

00:49:39.600 we should do everything we can to actively recruit them specifically and to get as many

00:49:45.860 of them into the military as possible and to expand their role in every single area.

00:49:50.100 That's what they actually think.

00:49:51.400 It's just that in a, in a debate, they won't defend that position because it is impossible

00:49:58.880 to defend, just totally impossible.

00:50:01.960 Um, because why would we do that?

00:50:05.960 In, in what way does that help anything?

00:50:09.160 Has any military ever been made stronger by expanding the role that women play in it?

00:50:15.560 Has that ever happened in history?

00:50:17.000 I'm not even asking if there's ever been, uh, a military that had women in it and was

00:50:24.360 also strong and formidable.

00:50:28.000 I'm asking whether any military has ever been improved, has ever been made stronger, has

00:50:34.480 ever been made more formidable by adding women.

00:50:39.760 Like imagine two militaries, right?

00:50:42.620 You've got one and it's the same.

00:50:44.000 You got, you got one where it's all, it's a hundred percent men in every role, every

00:50:48.860 all men, right?

00:50:50.340 And then you've got, and then, and then now, now take that same military.

00:50:54.620 And, uh, whereas before it was a hundred percent men now imagine that it's 40% women.

00:51:00.380 It's only 6% men, 40% women.

00:51:03.120 Could you make the argument that, that the, in the latter case, it is now stronger.

00:51:09.600 It's now better at being a military because there are fewer men and more women.

00:51:16.040 Uh, I think that you clearly cannot make that argument.

00:51:19.040 There's no, I mean, you, you couldn't give any example.

00:51:24.040 You couldn't give any measurable, any data to, uh, to make that argument.

00:51:28.980 Um, so, um, so clearly this was the right move by Pete Exeth.

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00:54:20.540 Here's a little piece of trivia to file away under the good timing category.

00:54:25.080 The brand name Tylenol was first introduced back in 1955 by a company called McNeil Laboratories.

00:54:31.600 They marketed it as a way to reduce fevers in children.

00:54:34.420 Just four years later, the growing pharmaceutical giant Johnson & Johnson bought McNeil Laboratories

00:54:39.160 along with the rights to Tylenol.

00:54:41.080 They quickly started selling the drug over the counter beginning in 1959.

00:54:44.620 That arrangement continued for decades right up until two years ago.

00:54:48.180 After nearly 70 years of owning the Tylenol brand, Johnson & Johnson decided to hand off

00:54:53.980 Tylenol to a spinoff company called Kenview.

00:54:56.800 They also jettisoned a couple other well-known brands including Band-Aid and Listerine, placed

00:55:01.340 them under the control of Kenview.

00:55:02.480 Now, whatever you think of Tylenol, you have to admit that this transition came at precisely

00:55:06.600 the right time.

00:55:07.780 In just the last month, Kenview's stock is down by around 20%.

00:55:10.540 Meanwhile, Johnson & Johnson is down only 1%.

00:55:12.800 In other words, it looks like Johnson & Johnson successfully insulated themselves from the

00:55:16.840 brand damage, or at least a lot of the brand damage, that has resulted from increased government

00:55:21.240 scrutiny on Tylenol.

00:55:23.300 Two days ago, as you may have seen, that government scrutiny boiled over.

00:55:27.020 The President of the United States, looking directly at the cameras, told pregnant women

00:55:30.260 not to take Tylenol.

00:55:32.640 He said it's too dangerous in the vast majority of cases.

00:55:35.480 Watch.

00:55:37.140 Tylenol during pregnancy can be associated with a very increased risk of autism.

00:55:46.700 So, taking Tylenol is not good.

00:55:54.060 I'll say it.

00:55:55.120 It's not good.

00:55:57.500 For this reason, they are strongly recommending that women limit Tylenol use during pregnancy

00:56:03.680 unless medically necessary.

00:56:06.240 that's, for instance, in cases of extremely high fever, that you feel you can't tough it

00:56:14.240 out, you can't do it.

00:56:15.420 I guess there's that.

00:56:17.060 For Big Pharma and the media outlets that take millions of dollars in advertising money

00:56:20.980 from Big Pharma, this statement was a five-alarm fire.

00:56:24.260 Tylenol generates something like a billion dollars in annual sales.

00:56:26.960 Every week, 25% of Americans take a drug that contains the active ingredient in Tylenol.

00:56:31.620 Now, any brand damage could quickly amount to massive financial losses.

00:56:36.260 So, right away, every network did their best to neutralize the story.

00:56:39.960 Here was CBS, for example.

00:56:42.040 We begin tonight with the President of the United States promoting a link between the

00:56:46.260 risk of autism and the active ingredient in an over-the-counter pain and fever medicine.

00:56:51.680 The President, flanked by his health secretary, Robert F. Kennedy, told pregnant women to only

00:56:56.680 use Tylenol if they can't, quote, tough it out.

00:56:59.620 The announcement of a link is drawing criticism from scientists and doctors who say there's

00:57:04.440 not enough evidence to back the claim.

00:57:06.760 CBS News medical contributor Dr. Slingon Gounder joins me now.

00:57:10.480 Dr. Gounder, let's just start with the basic question.

00:57:12.980 Is there a proven link between prenatal use of acetaminophen and autism?

00:57:20.280 No, John.

00:57:21.380 The best evidence we have does not show that Tylenol causes autism.

00:57:25.900 They cherry-picked a couple studies that they thought back to their claims.

00:57:30.300 They ignored the lion's share of studies that argue against Tylenol causing autism.

00:57:35.500 The best recent study argues against a causal link.

00:57:39.160 This is a study from Sweden looking at siblings' 2.5 million births.

00:57:45.540 And when they compared siblings, so they're controlling for family genetics and other risk factors,

00:57:50.120 they found no association with autism and ADHD.

00:57:54.440 And I also want to note major medical organizations continue to advise that Tylenol can be used during pregnancy.

00:58:03.140 These are the people who care for and about their patients.

00:58:05.980 They have no political points to gain here.

00:58:08.240 So the major medical associations disagree with the administration, and of course we can trust them.

00:58:13.040 It's not as if the major medical associations were wrong about COVID, about transgenderism, about SSRIs, ADHD,

00:58:20.780 pretty much every other significant issue in the past 20 years related to medicine.

00:58:25.560 They say Tylenol is safe, and so that's good enough for CBS News.

00:58:29.740 Now here's the part where I should say, I'll happily admit, that I take really no position on whether Tylenol indeed causes autism or contributes to it.

00:58:41.520 I don't know enough about the subject to make an informed judgment.

00:58:45.300 I haven't done really any research into it.

00:58:48.080 So I don't know.

00:58:50.000 I do find it very compelling that even Tylenol agrees that you shouldn't take Tylenol while pregnant.

00:58:57.160 And you're not going to hear anybody on CBS News mention this, but Tylenol's Twitter account tweeted this back in 2017 in response to somebody else.

00:59:05.700 We actually don't recommend using any of our products while pregnant.

00:59:08.640 Thank you for taking the time to voice your concerns today.

00:59:11.780 And there are actually a bunch of tweets like this where they say that.

00:59:14.740 So, you know, that's very interesting.

00:59:19.000 And now maybe we know why they issued that warning.

00:59:22.140 Just a few weeks ago, a dean at Harvard School of Public Health, Andrea Baccarelli, conducted a study funded by the NIH, which found a, quote,

00:59:31.620 association between Tylenol exposure during pregnancy and increased incidence of neurodevelopment disorders, including autism.

00:59:38.480 He published a study in the journal BMC Environmental Health that's been widely circulated online.

00:59:42.820 And he worked with researchers at the School of Medicine at Mount Sinai.

00:59:46.600 So this wasn't a one-off study from a random crackpot.

00:59:49.860 And again, it's not an old study.

00:59:51.320 It's from a few weeks ago.

00:59:53.580 But to be fair, as the CBS doctor pointed out, there are studies showing a different conclusion.

00:59:58.600 And I've seen various criticisms of the Harvard study focusing on the methodology.

01:00:02.240 The New York Times also just published a hit piece on the dean at Harvard saying he took $150,000 to testify as an expert witness in a lawsuit against the company that makes Tylenol.

01:00:10.780 Now, of course, all these studies and experts are being funded by somebody.

01:00:14.680 Every single one of them has a conflict of interest, if you look hard enough.

01:00:20.120 I mean, any study of this nature, it's being done for a reason.

01:00:23.700 Somebody's funding it, which is why I don't give a lot of weight to studies in general for this reason.

01:00:31.180 And if you've been paying attention for a while, you know that the media for roughly a decade has been warning us that Tylenol can cause autism and other behavioral disorders.

01:00:41.060 Watch.

01:00:41.840 It's supposed to be the safe option.

01:00:44.660 Acetaminophen, most widely known as Tylenol, is routinely prescribed by doctors for pregnant women in pain.

01:00:50.160 But a new large study out of Denmark calls this longstanding practice into question.

01:00:55.620 In the study, women using the common pain reliever during pregnancy were more likely to have children who went on to have ADHD.

01:01:03.160 The research is raising concerns tonight that acetaminophen could be linked to autism and ADHD.

01:01:09.460 Acetaminophen is the most commonly used medication for pain and fever during pregnancy.

01:01:13.660 Well, now we're learning that women who take it when pregnant may be exposing their baby to an increased risk of behavioral problems and other disorders, such as Tourette's syndrome.

01:01:22.140 A new study from Johns Hopkins found taking acetaminophen late in pregnancy may be associated with a higher risk of having a child with autism or ADHD.

01:01:31.980 A new study from Johns Hopkins finds taking acetaminophen late in pregnancy is associated with a higher risk of having a child with autism or ADHD.

01:01:42.180 New research out of Spain is raising concerns about prenatal exposure to acetaminophen.

01:01:48.740 A popular brand in the United States is, of course, Tylenol.

01:01:52.280 A study from Spain included data from over 70,000 children.

01:01:55.980 It shows those whose mothers took acetaminophen during pregnancy were about 20% more likely to develop ADHD or autism symptoms.

01:02:06.100 If you go back long enough, you'll find that medical experts have contradicted themselves on pretty much every single topic, just like this.

01:02:12.700 They'll tell you a few drinks of wine can add years to your life, and then they'll tell you on the next breath that actually can cause cancer.

01:02:20.100 You know, and there are a million examples like this.

01:02:21.960 It's all very confusing, which may be the point.

01:02:23.720 There's never been a clear answer on what causes autism or how, but that hasn't stopped the experts from offering theories, only to walk them back a few years later.

01:02:33.820 In the 1950s, the refrigerator mother theory was popular.

01:02:37.240 The idea was that if women don't demonstrate maternal warmth towards their children, then their children are likely to become autistic.

01:02:44.000 Today, the explanation has fallen out of favor.

01:02:45.940 However, autism is widely considered to be a genetic phenomenon.

01:02:49.720 In any event, for one reason or another, autism cases among young children have risen, there's no doubt about it, by roughly 400% in the past two decades.

01:02:56.780 A statistic that strongly suggests that we changed something that should not have been changed.

01:03:04.620 In case it's not abundantly obvious, I'm in no position to pass judgment on any of these theories, but I am in a position, a very good position,

01:03:11.440 to judge the hordes of pregnant liberal women on TikTok who are currently slamming down Tylenol on camera for the sole purpose of telling Donald Trump who's boss.

01:03:22.860 And this is a phenomenon that has predictably taken hold very, very quickly.

01:03:26.400 Within hours of Trump's press conference, the pill bottles came out.

01:03:29.740 Watch.

01:03:33.140 28 weeks pregnant.

01:03:34.900 You know what I'm going to take?

01:03:37.280 Some Tylenol, acetaminophen.

01:03:39.220 It's going to work like a charm, and my baby won't have autism.

01:04:02.000 The ring of fire.

01:04:09.220 It would be interesting to know how much Tylenol was consumed when these women were in the womb themselves.

01:04:21.300 That would be a valuable data point for Harvard and Mount Sinai.

01:04:24.520 Really, there's only two options here.

01:04:26.080 Either these women are desperately hoping to give birth to the next Greta Thunberg,

01:04:29.740 or they're risking the health of their children for some likes on TikTok.

01:04:33.720 I mean, neither option is good, but that's what we're left with.

01:04:37.020 Again, I'm no doctor, but none of these women appear to actually need Tylenol at the moment.

01:04:43.660 They don't seem to be in any kind of distress.

01:04:46.560 It seems they're just taking it to take it.

01:04:48.140 They're taking it out of spite.

01:04:49.460 I mean, as a general rule, I would say, and you don't need a medical degree to say this,

01:04:54.240 that taking any kind of pharmaceutical out of spite is always wrong.

01:05:01.340 That's never a good reason to ingest any kind of chemical into your body.

01:05:06.800 It's out of spite.

01:05:10.160 You know, these women are discarding the possibility that Tylenol causes brain disorders,

01:05:14.560 a possibility that no one can actually refute conclusively,

01:05:17.900 and there is good evidence that that could be the case.

01:05:20.620 And they're doing it in exchange for praise on the internet.

01:05:23.140 And they're doing it in large numbers.

01:05:26.240 If you happen to notice that Tylenol is running low at your local drugstore,

01:05:29.600 this is probably why.

01:05:31.220 Because all the women in your area, all the liberal women are wanting to make TikTok videos.

01:05:36.540 This is an image that's currently going viral on Instagram.

01:05:39.100 It reads, autism doesn't need to be cured.

01:05:42.980 Yes, leftists would rather embrace a neurological disorder

01:05:45.480 than give the Trump administration any kind of credence.

01:05:48.360 That's where we are.

01:05:49.140 At the same time, as dark as this situation is,

01:05:52.220 I have to admit, it's amusing to see that, once again,

01:05:56.920 these people will immediately do the opposite of whatever Trump says.

01:06:01.220 I mean, we all know that this is not any great revelation.

01:06:03.360 I'm not saying anything you don't know.

01:06:04.660 But there's not a single issue under any circumstance

01:06:08.340 where these women can admit that actually Trump may have a point.

01:06:12.880 At an intellectual level, at an instinctual level, rather,

01:06:16.560 they have to contradict whatever Trump says.

01:06:18.320 They have to make a very public showing of disagreeing with Trump

01:06:20.920 so that all their friends know that they're not on board.

01:06:24.720 And this is a power that Trump has that, frankly, I wish he would use more.

01:06:29.220 That he can get these liberal women to do, he can get them to do anything.

01:06:33.160 Get them to do anything just by urging them to do the opposite of that thing.

01:06:40.820 So I can tell you one thing.

01:06:41.960 I wish Trump would come out and claim that, you know,

01:06:44.880 it's a bad idea to shower every day.

01:06:49.260 Overnight, you would fix the hygiene problem on the left.

01:06:52.380 If only he would say that.

01:06:54.380 Now, of course, the downside is you have a bunch of liberal women

01:06:56.560 like taking videos of themselves in the shower.

01:06:59.340 So we'd have to see that.

01:07:00.760 But the plus side is that, you know,

01:07:03.400 things would smell a lot better around here.

01:07:06.300 But fixing the abject stupidity might be a tougher challenge.

01:07:09.160 Here's one more video in this new genre of women downing Tylenol to own Trump.

01:07:14.900 Watch.

01:07:16.180 About to take Tylenol for my headache while pregnant

01:07:19.380 because I don't take my medical advice from a man

01:07:22.520 who doesn't have a degree in science, health care or medicine

01:07:26.480 and who had a parasitic brain infection

01:07:29.120 and was addicted to heroin for 14 years.

01:07:33.040 Yeah, I'll trust my doctors who have their degree.

01:07:37.200 This is another common sentiment on the left.

01:07:38.760 They're completely unaware that many studies exist,

01:07:41.460 including from the public health school at Harvard

01:07:43.220 that agree with the Trump administration.

01:07:45.320 The dean at Harvard who wrote the autism study has an MD

01:07:48.380 as well as a master's and a PhD.

01:07:51.100 But his opinion doesn't count in left-wing circles.

01:07:53.980 As always, credentialism is just a way to advance the narrative.

01:07:56.620 If you have credentials and agree with them,

01:07:58.920 then they'll cite your credentials.

01:08:00.360 If you have credentials and you don't agree with them,

01:08:02.340 then they'll drown themselves in Tylenol

01:08:04.300 and pretend you don't exist.

01:08:06.680 As entertaining as these people are,

01:08:08.760 there is one more irony to discuss here,

01:08:10.860 that this Tylenol obsession is yet another example

01:08:14.560 of the left rushing to the defense of big pharma

01:08:17.060 without any self-awareness.

01:08:20.060 And there's no doubt that every single woman

01:08:21.640 in these TikTok videos would say that billionaires are a cancer,

01:08:27.160 that capitalism has to be dismantled,

01:08:29.080 and all the rest of it.

01:08:30.980 And yet for all their affinity for socialism,

01:08:33.140 when it comes to big pharma,

01:08:34.380 they're playing the white knight.

01:08:35.940 And they do this all the time.

01:08:38.940 White knighting for big pharma.

01:08:42.240 Frankly, there's something very funny and ironic

01:08:44.060 about watching a bunch of communists

01:08:45.540 valiantly defend the profit interests

01:08:47.620 of the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry.

01:08:51.120 To the point that they're willing to, you know,

01:08:52.640 chug Tylenol on camera.

01:08:54.140 The good news is that, once again,

01:08:57.240 these people have exposed not only their hypocrisy,

01:08:59.360 but also their ignorance and stupidity.

01:09:02.240 The bad news is that in about 12 years,

01:09:04.580 an army of Greta Thunbergs might descend upon us.

01:09:07.820 And that is why all of the pregnant leftist women

01:09:10.620 who are overdosing on Tylenol to spite Donald Trump

01:09:13.320 are today canceled.

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